Matt Infowars and callers dissect Ukraine’s war on 2/24/22, linking Putin’s energy market dominance—3rd in oil, 2nd in gas—to sanctions risks destabilizing global economies via fertilizer shortages (Russia exports 18% of the world’s supply) and pharmaceutical disruptions tied to China. Jay from Wyoming questions motives amid corrupt actors on both sides, while Texas Truth Teller warns of escalating "Great Reset" economic warfare, citing Soviet-era Ukrainian farmland control under Stalin. Meanwhile, Dr. Syed Haider argues COVID vaccines worsen long-term damage through spike protein inflammation, advocating pre-treatment with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to prevent chronic illness, contrasting India’s Uttar Pradesh success with Australia’s lockdown failures. Alex Jones promotes supplements like Winter Sun and X3 while callers push controversial sticker campaigns, blending pandemic skepticism with anti-establishment activism. [Automatically generated summary]
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This morning we got a lot of news to bring to you, so we're going to cut right to it.
In the second hour of the show, we're going to be playing an interview that we recorded yesterday with Predator Catchers, Inc., in Indianapolis. And in the third hour of the show, I'm going to be joined by Dr.
Syed Haider. He is a great resource at learning where you can get your hands on some affordable ivermectin.
That way, in case the worst may happen, you get COVID and maybe you start feeling ill, it's not a mild case, then you have access to ivermectin right away.
So please stay tuned for that.
Starting off today with today's headlines, big headline out of Canada, Trudeau revokes Emergency Powers Act.
We got a video clip here and let's go ahead and see what Trudeau has to say.
Well, it's important because the trucker protest in Canada was very effective at bringing to the attention on the world stage exactly how much we don't want these mandates to be.
The People's Convoy sets off from California to D.C. as the cavalcade raises more than $464,000.
Scores of truckers began their 11-day trek from California to Washington D.C. on Wednesday in an effort to protest COVID-19 vaccine and mandates after the cavalcade raised more than half a million dollars in donations.
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It's going to be at the same time as Joe Biden's State of the Union address this year.
So there will be, you know, as Joe Biden delivers the State of the Union address this year, there will be National Guard troops in D.C. The Pentagon approves National Guard deployment ahead of the D.C. trucker convoy.
And you're going to have about a thousand unarmed National Guard troops strung throughout Washington, D.C. to make sure that this protest doesn't get to the magnitude of the trucker protest in Canada.
And again, if you want to know why all of this is important, there is an awesome article from 1974, Breaking News.
But it was authored by Seymour Hersh.
And in case you've never heard about this, it is exactly why trucker protests are extremely effective.
And here's the title here.
CIA is linked to strikes in Chile that beset Allende.
But today we're doing some pretty important stuff.
So again, we'd just love to hear from you if you call 1-877-789-2539.
We'll be taking your calls starting next segment.
While we accumulate some calls here, I'm going to go back to some of this news and why it's important.
What I'm, kind of the overarching theme of what I see as important this morning, besides war in Ukraine, right, is how economies are affected and how this is a very important factor in, you know, world wars, in a lot of geopolitics.
So CIA is linked to strikes in Chile that beset Allende.
So anyways, trucks were very important to delivering goods in Chile, and this strike paralyzed their economy, and it set the grounds for a government coup, basically a Western-backed coup in Chile.
So that...
Economies are extremely important when going to war, which is what brings me to my next article, The Coming Energy Shock.
Now, we're kind of shifting to Ukraine here.
This article is by David Frum.
It's in the Atlantic. And yesterday, we had covered a story talking about gas prices and how some outlets claimed that gas prices could be You know, attributed to Ukraine.
And what I have to say about this is that, yes, gas prices are climbing here in the United States because of bad policy.
But one of the more interesting things, I'll just go ahead and start reading from the article here and you'll start to see why this is important.
Gas prices could go up a lot more.
So... I'm going to start at about the third paragraph here if you're following along.
The coming energy shock in the Atlantic by David Frum.
Russia is the world's number three exporter of oil and it's the number two exporter of natural gas.
If Western countries respond to Russia's invasion by imposing sanctions, Russia's obvious counter move is to retaliate by cutting back fuel sales.
Such a move would hurt Russia too, but Vladimir Putin has carefully prepared for the shock and, of course, Russian citizens have learned it's dangerous to complain.
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The state of energy markets provides much of the answer to why now?
It is another history lesson, but it speaks to alliances.
And so we basically have got this position where Russia is now emerging because of this economy.
Essentially, if they're able to manipulate energy prices, they could rise up and surpass Italy and France to become the number two economy in Europe, only behind Germany, which is a pretty important factor.
You've got a lot of NATO forces that are currently set up and they're aligned against an expansionist Russia.
Um, the way I see that is it could pit basically Russia and China against NATO and Western forces in a world war and, uh, Let's take a look here at a video.
It's going to be a long one.
I might pull us out here in just a second.
But we're going to take a look back to the onset of World War I and some of the alliances that really caused a small conflict to break out into a world war.
Let's go to that clip now. Yes, even the official history books, the books written and published by the winners, Record that the First World War started as the result of a conspiracy.
After all, it was, as all freshman history students are taught, the conspiracy to assassinate the Archduke Franz Ferdinand that led to the outbreak of war.
That story, the official story of the origins of World War I, is familiar enough by now.
In 1914, Europe was an interlocking clockwork of alliances and military mobilization plans that, once set in motion, ticked inevitably toward all-out warfare.
The assassination of the Archduke was merely the excuse to set that clockwork in motion, and the resulting July crisis of diplomatic and military escalations led with perfect predictability to continental and, eventually, global war.
In this carefully sanitized version of history, World War I starts in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914.
But this official history leaves out so much of the real story about the build-up to war that it amounts to a lie.
But it does get one thing right.
The First World War was the result of a conspiracy.
To understand this conspiracy, we must turn not to Sarajevo and the conclave of Serbian nationalists plotting their assassination in the summer of 1914, but to a chilly drawing room in London in the winter of 1891.
There, three of the most important men of the age, men whose names are but dimly remembered today, are taking the first concrete steps toward forming a secret society that they have been discussing amongst themselves for years.
The group that springs from this meeting will go on to leverage the wealth and power of its members to shape the course of history and, 23 years later, will drive the world into the first truly global war.
Their plan reads like outlandish historical fiction.
They will form a secret organization dedicated to the extension of British rules throughout the world.
Yeah, exactly. And we also know where the Atlantic's coming from.
Interesting that they would spin the price of oil when really the real danger here is that, and I just found this out yesterday on the Conservative Treehouse through a Sundance article.
I love that publication. Yeah.
Yeah, great, great, great publication.
I love it. Gateway Pundit and Conservative Treehouse, really eye-opening, great place to go.
They're talking about the fact that Russia is a main exporter of fertilizer.
We all need fertilizer to plant our crops.
We all know and watch the increasing price of fertilizer for farmers, even in the U.S. and Canada, to grow food.
So that's my biggest concern here.
We also know that China is a major supply chain contributor to the U.S. and Canada.
And one thing that doesn't get a lot of press is the fact that the pharmaceutical supply chain may be cut up.
That would be a very strategic ploy by China to literally cripple the U.S. That would be detrimental.
Yeah, like diabetes medication, whatever, antidepressant medication.
The U.S., Canada are hooked on medication.
And if China decides to turn off the spigot on that side, we're in major trouble.
The fish will be doing a little bit better, but as a whole, you know, America might be paralyzed.
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I think Trump has already shown us in the last four years, five years, how dependent we are on foreign supply chains and the need to make America great involves reinvigorating our own infrastructure, whether that be in Canada or the United States.
I am shocked just how We've sold out in how much money or how much industry we have sold out to China in the last 10 years.
And, you know, it would take us, what, maybe a decade to rebuild and to manufacture and produce everything that we need rather than being so reliant on China.
Anyway, Canada's Quebec City is still under some sort of provincial mandates and lockdowns here.
So we're not doing well here.
But thank God they lifted the Emergency Measures Act.
But stay tuned. Trudeau's not finished yet with us, I think.
He's just out of control. Tell me a little bit more about what's going on in Quebec.
How did the emergency powers affect you guys in Quebec?
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Good question. You know, Quebec was dead set against it.
The provincial government here in Quebec has been dead set against the Emergency Measures Act.
But don't for one second think that Quebec is anti-mandate or anti-lockdown.
Quebec has had the most stringent lockdown mandates of any province.
We haven't went so far as to lock us down and present curfews to us.
So we're just now, they're just starting to lift The mask restrictions and restaurant restrictions are about to allow people to go back in a 100% feeding setting.
But that doesn't mean that the Quebec government is finished with this.
there's still the federal mandate which prevents any Quebec or any Canadian citizen from getting on a plane or a train or a bus without a federal vaccine passport.
So let that go.
That is the key here.
That's Klaus Schwab's key.
The only reason that Trudeau blinked on the emergency measures act in the last 24 hours was because he was getting significant pressure on, According, again, to articles that I'm reading out of Conservative Treehouse, from the banks and the central banks saying, you know, you're revealing our cards too soon here.
We don't want people to think that the government can just go in summarily and seize your bank accounts.
But that's the plan. So they have to hold on to the vaccine passport.
They want to usher in a digital ID here.
And I don't see any inclination or any desire from any Canadian politician.
They'll say, yeah, we're lifting the provincial, or as we call them, provincial here in the United States.
It's called states. We'll lift the state mandates, but we'll still respect and obey the federal mandates, which, well, again, is an impediment to the unvaccinated.
So, yes, the vaccinated can go in restaurants and go back to shops and theaters, but the unvaccinated, no.
You will still not be able to get into a store larger than 15,000 square meters or go to anywhere without a vaccine passport.
And we want to keep the federal mask mandates in place.
That's unbelievable. Are there any businesses near you that are kind of rebelling these mandates that will serve people who aren't masked or that are kind of flying under the radar?
You don't have to name them on air, but are there businesses like that around there or is everybody complying?
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There's a few, but most businesses have complied.
Listen, most businesses, most small businesses have been wiped out here in Canada.
So you're really talking about the big box stores, McDonald's, the large corporations that have managed to stay open.
Small businesses around here are struggling.
And surprisingly enough, I thought that even though there has been this rise up from Canada, it's been two years too late.
I'm very serious.
Well, I'm happy to see that people are waking up.
Look, bouncy casuals are great.
Dancing in the streets are great.
But the government doesn't respect this.
It doesn't respect us, obviously.
They can just turn off our bank accounts.
That's the bottom line here.
So no matter how much protesting we do, how many small businesses stand up against this authoritarianism, it really doesn't matter.
Oh, 100%. These are draconian moves that only draconian governments and totalitarian governments would take if they didn't fear the people.
They'd obviously fear us.
But we have to keep the pressure up here.
More trucker convoys, more protests in front of our buildings, until every single mandate is lifted.
But the goal here is really, they could lift the mandate, but say, you know what, we're still going to hold on to the vaccine passport.
So, you know, please get that extra booster.
And by the way, no longer eligible to use your vaccine passport because you only have two shots.
That's coming! Yeah, I hate reveling in seeing bad things for people, but I saw a headline yesterday that Harrison had where the French, about 4 million French people, realized they couldn't ride the Metro anymore because they hadn't had their latest booster shot and their COVID digital passport had expired on them.
So, you know...
Those are the types of headlines I kind of love to see in the morning.
Seeing these mandates fail, seeing the COVID pass fail because, again, I agree with you.
I think that that is the end goal.
The COVID pass is the end goal and it's a way to track everything that you do to incorporate you into just a surveillance grid, which is unbelievable.
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Jeff, thank you for giving us a call this morning.
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Oh, dude, I love saying good morning before delivering bad news.
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It's amazing. I'm just kidding.
Keep going. He looked like he was not from here, and he was an immigrant, and he was a truck driver.
Blasts in Ukraine00:06:42
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And he's out here trying to make a penny, and he's from the Ukraine.
The first words out of his mouth were, you know, that we're under attack in the Ukraine, but from Russia.
And I said, I know.
And I caught him in the store and out of the store, and he was sick.
degree weather and literally stood there and cried with the man because his wife and kids are over there and they can't get on a plane and can't get over here.
And he's here on a green card.
And this job is no joke.
You know, you're out here sometimes three weeks or a month at a time and you're trying to make a penny to support your family and all.
And it just was really sad.
And I had empathy for him and I really, I could feel the pain that he was in.
And, you know, I told him, you know, did he say what, what region or what area in Ukraine he was from personally?
Perhaps western? No.
Because eastern Ukraine is getting rocked right now.
But it looks like there are actually blasts all over the place here.
I'm going to show you here.
There's really not a great space in Ukraine right now.
Just looking at the doc cam here, you can see a quick little overview of where strikes are in Ukraine, where there have been reported blasts.
It looks like these separatist forces on the eastern side of Ukraine, right, are what Putin claims he is going in.
And he's using this noble motive of saying that he's wiping out Nazism of these separatist forces.
It's like the noble motive he uses.
But there are blasts all around Ukraine, which is, it is a little concerning to me.
If I may. Sure.
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If I may, you know, You know, Biden and Hunter and Obama and everybody dealing with all these arms over there, and believe me, I know, you know, I listen to Alex, and I understand that Putin's no angel, and I know that he's probably one of the wealthiest men in the world and all, but it is terrible.
As it sounds on your program, I don't know if it's such a terrible thing to take that government out.
We're just going to let that phone connection stabilize here.
We're going to hear from you here in just a second, but I need you to backtrack about 10 seconds here.
Jay, are you still there?
I'm having a hard time hearing you, Jay.
Jay, stay on the line.
Stay on the line there. Get to a spot where you think you're going to have a little better reception.
We're going to be going back to you here for that conclusion here in just a second.
Until then, we're going to Jay in Michigan.
Jay wants to talk about a Business Insider article.
It's on the same wavelength here.
At least eight Ukrainians reported dead hours after Russia launches invasion with explosions heard across the country.
Jay, welcome to the program.
Hey, how you doing? Hey, doing well.
Tell me a little bit about this news article and why it's important to you.
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Well, I mean, it's not so much that it in particular is important to me.
I mean, it's the headlines that are important because, as we know, the media is used to betray and lie to the public and get people on a narrative that's not really happening or a narrative that they want to happen.
Now, I haven't seen any video of these attacks.
I haven't seen any announcements coming out of Russia of all these attacks.
I haven't heard Putin saying, yeah, we're attacking or anything like that.
Well, I don't see anyone reporting that these strikes, these blasts are caused by NATO. And I have seen videos this morning of damage, especially in northern Ukraine here, by Lviv.
That's actually western Ukraine, where the blast that is in almost the...
It's actually furthest west in Ukraine.
That blast actually took out an airport that the military occasionally uses.
So you're looking at tactical strikes that are...
crippling infrastructure.
Again, when you're looking at targets for military strikes, you're looking to strike not just airfields and things like that, but also civilian infrastructure that is like a truck manufacturing plant because that can be reconfigured to make tanks, things like that.
So I do see some of that.
I am worried about it, but I do agree with you.
The headlines can definitely exasperate the problem by making it seem worse than it is.
Absolutely.
And what I'm worried about is, again, just kind of a sudden swoop in to Ukraine that would basically put us in a position to where we have to commit to a liberation campaign.
And that right there, I think, would suck a lot of people into war because you'd need a concerted effort to go ahead and liberate all of Ukraine from Russia if it were to move in quickly.
I know that there is a false dichotomy that is being presented.
It's a crap sandwich.
It's either you're pro-NATO or you're pro-Russia.
You have to be on one side or the other.
But I think that we can see that there are flaws with NATO and Russia is an aggressive expansionist state.
I think that both can be true.
I don't like what's unfolding.
And it does seem like there's a lot of potential for war if there aren't concessions by Western powers, which it seems to me like there are incentives to concede to make concessions to Putin.
So we're headed to break here.
Jake, thanks for giving us a call here on the American Journal.
I'm Matt. I'm taking your phone calls this morning.
We're going to hit the calls hard here in this last segment.
Quick programming note.
Next hour, we're going to be watching an interview Harrison did last night with one of the predator catchers.
Actually, the guy who was actually filming Jaron Myers, right?
Unbelievable. What came out of this interview.
So I'm really glad to bring this to you in the second hour.
In the third hour, we're going to be talking to Dr.
Syed Haider. He's a doctor who has a telemedicine site where you can go and you can get ivermectin before you get sick.
It is amazing.
You have to check that site out.
But before we get to all that, we're going to go back to Jane, Wyoming.
Jay, I just wanted you to wrap up a little bit about what we were talking about.
You had told us that you had spoken to a man, and you started to cut out here.
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Go ahead, Jay. Yeah, well, like I said, I sat and cried with him for a little bit because his family can't get out of the Ukraine, and I'm not sure where they're at, but there was no flight, though.
And like I was saying, the oligarchies that Putin runs.
He probably just wants to install some in the Ukraine and get the They're all crooks.
So he wants to get the crooks that are the government out of that government, out of the Ukraine, and give the Ukrainians maybe a better chance.
Hey, good morning. How are you doing? Yeah, so I found this article.
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It's from December 23rd of 2020, and it talks about how all the malware used by the Lazarus Group, which if you go to the VAERS website, it literally says, if you scroll down a little bit, it says, see the Lazarus Group.
So we're all relying on this.
We obviously know that the numbers are skewed, but if we had anybody that could read this code, all of the code's there, and I'm not anybody who knows how to read code or anything, but it goes through everything.
The servers use, the parameters, all the coding, all the logs, file names, the logic of the C2 script.
It goes into really good detail of how they're manipulating all of our numbers.
Wow, so you're saying that this script is manipulating VAERS data?
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Yeah, so this is between the Ministry of Health and big pharma companies, and Lazarus gets all the information, and they have their malware and their W-agent software in between everything.
So it can't really communicate correctly.
And then they have the script in there that says, hey, two people died from the vaccine, or four people died from the actual COVID. You're getting different numbers just from that software being implemented.
Infowarriors out there on the internet, go check out this article brought to our attention by Jeremy.
It's Lazarus Covets COVID-19 Related Intelligence.
It's on securelist.com.
Great stuff here.
Jeremy, thanks for calling in the show and giving us this tidbit of information.
This seems very important.
Anything where there's manipulation of data on this scale, when policy is being extracted from these numbers, we're basing a lot of our policy decisions on that.
And this article is extremely in-depth here.
So if you are computer savvy and you want to dig into this article, again, it's on securelist.com.
Thanks, Jeremy, for calling into the show.
William in Arkansas has been hanging out here on the line.
William, thanks for calling into the American Journal.
In all honesty, the only thing I've ever tried is iodine on the X2, and I have certainly felt some benefits from it.
I have ordered a few things.
I certainly listen to you guys more than I should, probably.
I've been lied to for years and years by Fox and CNN and all the rest of them.
You know, I've been unemployed for four months because I'm a nurse that won't take a shot.
And the plug I'd like is, you know, I've got 23 years in uniform.
If you ever want to buy a soldier a $5 meal, do so by donating $5 to a I would love to see the view cringe because Yahoo got a report that over the next two or three weeks that a million people called in with a $10 donation.
That being said, let's go back to the more serious side of things.
General MacArthur, you talk about the UN and the ward and all this stuff, people that have never served, and I always call and say something about compulsory service.
Another reason why we should be here right now.
He put forth a bill at the UN that would require, if any two nations went to war, that all of the nations would seize assets, shut embassies, not even let the people leave.
All private money, public monies, everything would cease.
You wouldn't use anybody else's land space, air space, sea space.
face, you wouldn't get any help, recognition from any other government.
All governments within the UN at that time said, yes, we like the plan to MacArthur.
General Arthur MacArthur. When the wall came down in the early 90s, Boeing laid off 25,000 to 30,000 people up in the northwest between Seattle and Portland.
Their big project is up in there.
You know where they moved into? Siberia.
Six, seven, eight years ago, when this Crimea all-thing kind of started We're good to go.
France didn't sell them the first one.
It was finished. They were in the process of building the second.
I don't know what happened to it, but it all fell through.
I'm not worried about that.
If you've got a real enemy, a real enemy, if I have to go to my neighbor to borrow a.22 to fight my other neighbor, I'm not much of a threat.
If I can't build my own resources, how much of a threat am I? If I'm interacting with the international cabal, right?
And interacting between these international finance institutions to have somebody build something of such destruction, and then they can cancel it on you.
What were you dealing with these people in the first place for?
How many wars has France and Germany and Russia went through in the last two or three hundred years?
It was yesterday, globalist sanctions set to trigger next phase of the Great Reset.
That's on band.video.
Tell me more about that. Okay, so here's the thing about this.
You know, Ecclesiastes 1.9 in the Holy Bible says there is no new thing under the sun.
Okay, so in other words, history repeats itself, and that's because the one the Bible identifies as the god of this world, Satan, who's been at war with God since before man was created, he doesn't change his tactics, he just puts a new face on it.
So here's the thing, if you go back about a century, Stalin, when he took over Russia and the Soviet Union, one of the things he did was he took over the farmland in Ukraine.
Wow. And he starved those people out, okay?
Now, forward about a century, now we've got Ukraine and Russia in this situation again.
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Now, I talked to a good friend of mine who's in the fertilizer industry, and Alex talked about this yesterday with this article.
His cost and the people he's dealing with getting fertilizer, he distributes it, have gone sky high.
Alex mentioned about the potash, okay, and this ingredient, and also the nitrogen because of the cuts on the gas industry and the oil production, okay?
Sure. What I'm talking about is this.
Now we're talking about, oh, we're going to put sanctions on Russia.
Well, Russia is the number two producer in the world of fertilizer.
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And at the behest of NATO, Germany cut off their oil with the pipeline, okay?
They've got multiple ways of retaliating if we impose sanctions.
So if we impose sanctions, here are some of the downsides, right?
Number one downside is, like you're saying, fertilizer.
They could reduce the amount of fertilizer that they bring to the global market, which would just make food prices skyrocket.
It would make a lot of commodities like corn and soybeans skyrocket.
They could tighten their energy supply that they bring to the world.
They could reduce their output of gas and oil, which would cause an energy shock across economies, which again leads me to the conclusion that I was speaking about earlier in the show, which means It looks like,
based on his strategic move into Ukraine, Putin's strategic move into Ukraine, that Western governments are going to be forced to give Russia concessions.
And that's the way Putin sees it, right?
Because nobody wants a hot war and imposing sanctions, a non-violent means of retaliation.
Putin has spades to retaliate with, economically, is what you're saying.
If you go back to the Obama deception that Alex did when Obama got in, he had a guy in there that he interviewed, I can't remember his name, but he talked about how the big new Brzezinski, who with David Rockefeller founded the Trilateral Commission and actually came in under Carter.
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But Zbigniew Brzezinski was one of Obama's main advisors, and one of the main things he wanted Obama to do because he hated Russia because of his home country, which I think it was Poland or something like that.
This is why Biden and the media and the criminal-owned government are all trying to come against Russia, because they're carrying out the designs of Obama and his Marxist-globalist handlers to come against Russia.
So what I'm saying is that I see history repeating itself.
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You know, you know that you'll be able to use it at some point.
And let's say you don't use it for an emergency.
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So you're on Facebook communicating with a Facebook executive.
He starts the conversation.
He makes it sexual.
He offers to meet up.
You guys do a sting operation.
You catch him on video. You confront him with what he's said in the chat logs.
He basically admits it.
I mean, he doesn't deny that it was him.
He doesn't deny the things that he say.
And then they delete the...
The decoy account that you used to catch him.
Now, they've fired him, but they haven't reached out to you, and they've deleted the decoy account that you were using to catch predators.
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Yep, yep. They got rid of that thing quick.
And, you know, the next day, my YouTube channel got strikes.
Two videos got taken down.
They started coming after us.
I'm not going to say that it was necessarily Facebook that was coming after us and hitting our channels or anything, but it's kind of suspicious that right after we catch this guy...
Our videos start getting taken down.
A decoy count gets taken away.
It's kind of, it's kind of fishy.
You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to The American Journal.
I'm Harrison Smith. You're watching us on Infowars.com and Band.Video.
You know, just a few days ago, a bombshell video hit the internet that showed an executive with Facebook Who thought he would be meeting up with a 13-year-old for a little liaison.
Instead, to his surprise and our delight, there was no innocent child there for him to meet.
Instead, it was the brave people at Predator Catchers Indianapolis.
And we're going to learn a little bit more about what went on behind the scenes and what brought this about.
Because we welcome now Eric Schmuddy, who is the president of Predator Catchers Indianapolis.
You know, I watch sometimes like police interrogations and they're always very careful to not say anything too outrageous.
And I really liked that you were just letting this guy have it.
So just for me personally, thank you for speaking for so many of us when you really let that guy know what you thought about him.
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Right, yeah. You know, I felt like I had to.
So the girl I had with me, her name is Shonda.
She's part of Predator Catchers Muncie.
That's another branch of our organization.
So sometimes we'll play a little good cop, bad cop.
So the girl I had with me, her name's Shonda.
She's part of Predator Catchers Muncie.
That's another branch of our organization.
So sometimes we'll play a little good cop, bad cop type dealer.
So that's kind of what we were doing.
You know, if they get out of line or they start trying to just lie, you know, sometimes I'll come in and be a little more You know, abrasive, if you want to say.
No, absolutely. So let's lay the groundwork a little bit here, because this isn't the first time you guys have done this, but just explain to us what your organization is, how it operates, and why you guys do what you do.
unidentified
Okay, so if you've ever seen the show To Catch a Predator...
Sure. That's basically what we do.
We have online decoys that are online on different dating apps, meetup apps.
Any app where you can message someone, where you can have a profile or account.
We have decoy accounts where we pose as minors, so ages 15 and younger.
We'll have those decoys set in different apps.
Men or women will message the decoys.
We'll tell them our age.
And if they continue the conversation and continue to have a sexual conversation and then try to schedule a meet-up, we meet them in person and we put a camera in their face and we try to figure out what they're doing, try to figure out why they're doing it, and expose them to the community so the communities can be aware of these men or women that are trying to meet minors that they met online.
Yeah, and I noticed that on the Daily Mail, a Daily Mail article from just two days ago has some of the screenshots of the conversations that you guys were having with Jaron Miles, and you can see that he's the first one that reaches out and the decoys even like, okay, sorry, I don't really know you, so sorry that you're on my friends list or whatever.
You're not aggressive. You're not the one putting it out there.
You sort of are...
Playing coy in a way, and yet they are continually aggressing towards y'all and trying to get you enticed.
And they, of course, think that you're a 13-year-old.
You're not, obviously, but they don't know that.
That's really, really amazing.
I mean, it seems...
This just happens, I guess, right?
So you just make an account with a 13-year-old, and that's like throwing the hook with the worm in the water, and it's just a matter of waiting until some creep starts messaging them.
I mean, is it really that prolific?
It's horrifying, I think.
unidentified
Yeah. Yeah, sir.
It's bad.
It's very bad.
It's very easy for us to get online and Catch a predator.
The whole operation is not easy in itself, but to get online and to start talking to a predator, it's too easy.
It's extremely bad.
I can't even express how bad this problem really is.
If you have a child that's online, he or she is 100% being preyed on.
They are. If I showed you, I have about five burner phones where I talk to predators on.
And if I showed you the amount of predators that I am talking to, you wouldn't believe it.
Well, and I think that's the important part about this, right?
It's education for parents and it's a warning for kids out there because, again, it doesn't just stop with conversations on the internet.
That's why you have the video.
This guy was trying to meet up with somebody, right?
Explain to us how that works, how the sting operation kind of works, and how you...
You know, get them to either come to you or try to set up a date somehow.
And then you guys go with the camera and you live stream it, right?
So you're not just recording the confrontation.
You're actually live streaming it so everybody can watch in real time as this unfolds.
unidentified
Is that right? Yeah, we always go live.
I think I've only done one catch where I didn't go live.
But all the other catches, we always go live for everyone to see.
Mainly for them. The main reason, so the people in the community see who the predators are, so they can keep their kids safe.
You know what I mean? But yes, so any guy that we catch, we have caught a few guys that either were too scared to meet up, they might have scheduled the meet, and then they got cold feet at the last second, or they just kept...
Talking and talking, they would act like they wanted me, but they didn't.
And they just drag us along for months and then we end up finding where they live and then we go confront them wherever they're at.
We've done that a few times, but for the most part, like 95% of our catches are guys that have actually tried to meet the minor.
So you see us at the store, you see us at A dollar general or gas station is because they set the meet.
They're the ones that ask, hey, you want to meet up?
Yeah, it's so disturbing and it's what you guys do is so wonderful on so many different levels.
I mean, from alone, just sort of the cathartic satisfaction of seeing somebody who's a predator be faced with that and know he's going public and just the look on his face.
I mean, that's satisfying, but it's not about that, right?
You're warning parents about this so they can be careful for kids.
You're warning kids about this so they can know what, you know, the men, the people they're talking to on the internet are really all about.
Also, I think there's some effect where, hey, if you're a guy out there and you think you're going to get away with this, this may make you think twice.
And even in just that, you've probably prevented people from actually meeting up with people because they go, look, I've seen this before and I'm not about to fall for this.
So positive in every possible direction.
Have you been doing this for a long time and have you sort of gotten your strategy down pretty pat so far?
unidentified
Yeah, so I'm coming up on...
Two years of doing this.
In March, it'll be two years for me.
Yeah, we've gotten pretty good at what we do.
All the way from the beginning of a conversation all the way up to after we catch somebody.
I mean, you've already said, like, if you're a child online, you're almost definitely going to have a predator at some point approach you or try to message you or try to entice you somehow.
That's an important thing for people to know that they need to be monitoring their kids.
Everything that they do, they need to be checking their message.
I mean, I'm all for privacy, but when it's a little kid, that's the responsibility of a parent to be looking over their shoulder and making sure they're not getting into something they don't understand.
But what else do you want parents to know about how this works and about how predators Do what they do.
unidentified
I mean, it's a lot.
Wherever your kid's at, whether it's Facebook, Instagram, like I said before, they are getting preyed on.
There will be a predator in their inbox eventually.
So you've got to check your kid's devices.
Like you said, I'm all for privacy too.
When it's a kid, In this day and age, you cannot give them that full privacy because they're going to get preyed on.
They are. That's just the sad truth of what the world is right now.
There's so many predators out there that will hop in your kid's inbox.
The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Like Instagram, they'll...
Friend your daughter or whoever, they'll write right underneath their pictures.
They'll comment right underneath their pictures, like your kids' pictures.
They're very bold. There's a lot of them that are very bold.
You know, a warning to kids is like someone in a blacked out van that wants you to come meet their puppy or the free candy, right?
That's sort of the cliché. So there's the internet equivalent to that.
Do the people that approach these kids, are they presenting themselves as themselves?
Or do they use, you know, pictures that they download from the internet of like some good looking teen and they pretend to be a teen?
Or is it just their personal accounts that they reach out?
Is that how bold they are, really?
unidentified
Oh, yeah. You know, there are a lot of them that are catfishing.
They'll put a fake picture of somebody else.
Or there's some that they won't put any profile picture at all.
But there are a lot of them, I'd say for the most part, mostly, they're using their actual pictures.
Some of them are putting their first...
Some of them will have their first middle and last name on their profile.
Talking to who they think is a 13-year-old, a 10-year-old.
Some of these dudes are just very bold.
I don't know why they're like that, but some of them, they just don't care.
They'll have their first and last name.
They're commenting under your nine-year-old's Instagram picture.
Oh, very, very beautiful.
Very sexy, babe. And they got their first and last name and their actual picture in the profile picture.
So some of these dudes are very bold.
And then there are some guys that they'll pretend to be minors themselves.
So if you have a kid and you're looking through your child's friends list and you say, oh, who's this?
Oh, well, she's 13 too.
She's 14 too. Or he's 15 too.
So it's probably okay.
That's just another kid. No, there are plenty of grown men and women that are pretending to be minors and they're talking to your kids.
We've had a bunch of them. We can easily spot them right away.
Right. But there's a bunch of them.
There's a bunch of them. The sad part is those people, for the most part, we won't ever be able to expose them because they're hiding behind a fake profile picture and they're not really trying to meet up.
They're just looking for pictures so they can sell pictures or pass around pictures.
And of course, this should be something that I would think 99% of the population would be completely on board.
I don't know what your politics are.
I couldn't care less. This should be something that anybody who just understands what it is to be a human being should recognize that children should not be abused in this way.
But if this phenomenon is so widespread, if there's so many predators out there, Do you think it's growing?
Is it becoming more common?
Are people being more emboldened in this?
Because to me, I see a lot of stuff coming out now with like the UN has a statement where they say that sexual privacy is a part of your child's growing up and you shouldn't You've got professors in respected schools saying, actually, pedophilia is not that bad.
I mean, I see a very disturbing trend in our culture of permissibility when it comes to this type of stuff.
Are you recognizing a trend in that direction or any direction?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, definitely.
There's definitely more and more people that are, it seems like they're trying to make it more, they're trying to normalize this.
There's a great deal of what we call them, I don't know what I can or can't say on the show.
You can say whatever you want. Okay, cool.
We call them chomo sympathizers.
So these are people that will get angry at us and kind of trash talk us because of what we're doing.
There's plenty of people out there that will defend a chomo, a pedophile.
They'll defend them.
You know, and it's...
It's hard to say if the problem itself is actually getting worse or if it's always been this bad, but now we can see it better because of technology.
I would say it's definitely getting worse.
Many different reasons.
It's a lot easier for predators to prey on kids because of technology, because of all these apps.
It's a lot easier for them to do.
They don't have to just drive around in a creepy white van looking for kids.
They can just hop on, get on their phone, their computer, get on an app, and look for kids.
I think pornography might be making it worse, too.
I've heard stories of guys that Who knows how true it is, but men that kind of become more accepting of the idea of hooking up with children because they've watched so much porn that they're desensitized with the type of stuff they're watching.
And then they might stumble upon a kid video and then it just spirals down.
Who knows?
There's probably different things that trigger people that are trying to go after kids.
You never really truly know, but it's definitely pretty bad and it's definitely getting worse.
That's so disturbing, especially with the amount of talk there is about censorship and social media and responsibility and all this sort of stuff.
What are they doing to combat this?
Anything at all? I mean, has anybody from Facebook or Instagram reached out to you and said, hey, we're really concerned that our platforms are being used for this type of stuff.
How can we combat it?
I mean, is there anything...
Are there any algorithms going into this?
I mean, they can destroy hate speech in a second, but for some reason, when it comes to pedophiles, they are apparently everywhere and operating with impunity.
Is there anything that social media is doing to combat this that you know of?
unidentified
No, they're not doing anything.
They could easily stop the distribution of child porn.
They could stop that, but they're not doing it.
Facebook has not reached out to us about this.
They have not. But what Facebook did do, I'll tell you what Facebook did do.
The decoy account that was talking to Jaren, they terminated Shonda's decoy.
They terminated it. So after we caught him, her decoy account was terminated.
So you're on Facebook communicating with a Facebook executive.
He starts the conversation.
He makes it sexual.
He offers to meet up.
You guys do a sting operation.
You catch him on video. You confront him with what he's said in the chat logs.
He basically admits it.
I mean, he doesn't deny that it was him.
He doesn't deny the things that he say.
And then they delete the...
The decoy account that you used to catch him.
Now, they fired him, but they haven't reached out to you, and they've deleted the decoy account that you were using to catch predators.
unidentified
Yep, yep. They got rid of that thing quick.
And, you know, the next day, my YouTube channel got strikes.
Two videos got taken down.
They started coming after us.
I'm not going to say that it was necessarily Facebook that was coming after us and hitting our channels or anything, but it's kind of suspicious that right after we catch this guy...
I mean, I think that says a lot as to what their priorities are, right?
unidentified
Yeah, it's sad.
Because then you'll see, because there's a bunch of other predator-catching groups out there that are on YouTube, Facebook.
They keep terminating channels.
On TikTok, they'll take our videos down off of TikTok like that.
If we say anything, we'll say, oh, you're trying to have sex with a kid.
That video's getting taken down.
And you know what they're going to say?
Why the video got taken down?
For minor danger.
Danger of minors for minor safety.
So a video where we're trying to protect minors, clearly, is getting taken down and saying it's because of child endangerment, pretty much.
They're trying to censor the predator catcher.
They're trying to censor us.
They're not trying to censor, they're not trying to help with stopping pedophiles.
They're not. They're not.
The media is not doing it.
The justice system is not doing it.
The justice system is not doing it.
That's one reason why groups like us exist, because the justice system, I'm sorry, but the justice system, when it comes to predators, pedophiles, online predators, whatever you want, this topic, the justice system is just simply not doing what it needs to be, what it should be doing.
But I guess this is in line with so much, you know, really, again, just what their priorities are and what they value and what they really want to spend time getting off of their sights and what they're okay being up there.
I mean, this should be the biggest story in the country, honestly.
unidentified
Yeah. Yeah, it really should.
It's very serious because this is just the tip of the iceberg type of thing.
This guy, he had that good job and he was high up in the company.
But what about your next door neighbor that has a homeless guy living next door?
He can rape your kid too.
This guy is high up, but the guy next door who works at McDonald's, he might have more victims than Jaren.
Right. You know? It's bad.
And the justice system doesn't seem to want to work with groups like us.
Right, and as far as I know, they're not doing these things.
So it's like they're not going to take your stuff, but they're not doing it themselves.
So this just continues on and is only going to get worse.
Let's hear now, and I'm sorry we didn't do this earlier, how can people find your stuff and support you and find you, especially if you're kicked off of YouTube and big tech after revealing this stuff, which again is just mind-blowing.
It's PredatorCatchers.com, and that's your guys' website?
Yes, yes. And that's Predator Catchers Incorporated, right?
So it's Predator Catchers, Predator, singular, catchers, plural, dot com.
And it's Predator Catchers Incorporated, and there's lots of different branches of this.
And I guess you're the president of the Indianapolis chapter of this sort of nationwide crew.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm the president of Predator Catchers Incorporated.
So we have, right now we have three branches.
We have Predator Catchers Indianapolis, which that's basically my branch.
And then we have Predator Catchers Muncie.
They were with me. Shonda was in...
She was the one talking in the Jaron catch.
So that's Predator Catchers Muncie.
And then we also have Hunters vs.
Predators. So those are the three branches that we have.
And we're on YouTube.
Just type in PCI Predator Catchers Indianapolis or PCM Predator Catchers Muncie.
We're both on YouTube. And then we're all on Facebook.
So just type in PCI Predator Catchers Indianapolis, PCM Predator Catchers Muncie, or Hunters vs Predators on Facebook.
So you can find us there and the website, of course.
Well, and I hope people go and support you because obviously you're not getting support from the social media companies who are facilitating all this.
You're not getting support from the police who you're doing their job for them really and protecting children that they should be protecting.
So thank God you're Thank you for doing this and I really think you're doing incredible work especially when you're catching people like this Jaron Miles character who was a major figure at Facebook and Meta and I guess is responsible for organizing communities on Facebook and building this platform and yet he's there in his spare time trying to meet up with a 13 year old People who he thinks are 13-year-old young men.
And again, you can find in articles, I'm looking at one on the Daily Mail, all of the screenshots are there.
All of the messages are there.
So nobody can say that you're entrapping anybody.
Nobody can say that you were the one saying this and he knew that you weren't 13 and was just playing a little game.
Like, that's not an option.
It's all out there. You give this over to the cops and they do nothing for this.
I mean, this is one of the most mind-blowing stories I've ever heard.
Absolutely wild. I mean, what else can you tell us about your operation and why you do this?
What's your impetus behind it?
Why do you get involved in this?
unidentified
I get involved because, well, when I first started it, it was always because I always saw that the justice system wasn't doing what it really needs to be doing as far as predators.
I noticed some other groups doing it, so I decided, well, no one's doing it around my community, so I'm going to start doing it.
What the heck? I'm not really doing anything else.
I go to work. That's about it.
So I said, what the hell? I'm going to start Try to catch some guys, expose some guys.
But after starting doing it, after being in it for almost two years, I see it's so bad that I feel like I cannot stop doing it.
If I stop doing this, there's going to be so many more predators that are going to go under the radar.
It's bad. I'm talking to like 50, 60 predators by myself.
That's just me. And then I have a whole team that's talking to, some of us are talking to that many, some of us are talking to a little less, but that's a lot of predators.
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unidentified
Yeah. That's a lot of predators.
And there's too many.
So, you know, it's too big of a problem for police to even do all of the work that they need to be doing.
So when we say, like, law enforcement aren't doing what they need to be doing, some are, some aren't, but some are not doing it.
I'm not saying they're not doing it.
Some are doing it, but they can't do it It's too big.
We know how it feels now because there's so many predators that we're talking to.
We're not going to be able to catch all of them.
It's that bad.
I'm not trying to bash police or anything like that because there are plenty of...
I'd say 98% of cops that we run into love what we do and they want to help.
Most detectives want to work with us.
It's always the prosecutors or the judges that say no.
It's usually them. There are counties that do take our evidence, though.
There are counties, there are prosecutors that will take our evidence, that have took our evidence, that have charged and convict our guys.
So, you know, and then we have other prosecutors that say, no, we can't do it.
We cannot take your evidence.
But then yet we have convictions.
So what does that tell you? We need to start looking at these prosecutors.
Why are you not taking our evidence?
This has become so much more It's becoming bigger than just us catching a pedophile.
There's something wrong.
There's something wrong with a lot of prosecutors, with a lot of law enforcement.
There's something wrong. Even with real cases where there's an actual victim.
I've seen cases where there's an actual victim and the guy gets like a year in jail and then gets probation.
It doesn't make sense.
It makes no sense.
We caught a guy.
We caught a guy recently. He was caught twice in a police thing doing this.
It was two police things.
He got caught up, charged.
They let him out. He's not even on the registry.
They didn't put him on the registry.
So then we catch him. Then we give the evidence to the cops.
And guess what? Right after that, Within a week, she does it again with another one of our decoys.
Oh my god. It's the American Journal, with your host, Matt.
Sure. So Benjamin Marvel, I think, he's another physician who started a site called MyFreeDoctor.
Sure. And so he actually takes donations from everyone.
He doesn't charge anyone.
And so I saw that.
I was like, oh, that's awesome. I actually tried that for a while.
But what I found as a doctor is that if you don't charge for your services, then people don't really take you as seriously and they don't do what you tell them to do.
So it's like if you get something for free, you don't really value it as much as you should.
So I kind of flipped that on its head and I said, okay, we're going to charge people up front.
If you can't afford to pay or if you have like a family of 10 people or something and you need a big discount, just ask us and we'll give it to you.
So it's not like I'm trying to milk the American people for money and for profits.
I'm trying to help as many people as possible.
And my goal is that you should take me seriously and do what I say.
And in order to take me seriously, a lot of people just got to pay for a service in order to take it seriously usually.
Tell me a little bit about that. So with COVID, this is for everything.
People have heard from their doctors that you've got to complete the full course of antibiotics.
Otherwise, maybe the bacteria, whatever you're trying to treat, becomes resistant.
And then you spread a more resistant strain to other people.
Or maybe it comes back and attacks you worse.
Or maybe it doesn't go away. So you start taking an antibiotic, even an antiviral, and you feel better.
And then you stop it. If you stop it too early, so with COVID, right?
That's what we're talking about. With COVID, you have like a day or two to really, in the beginning, kill the virus and diminish its numbers as much as possible, okay?
If you do a really great job of that, you have barely any virus in your body.
And then the second stage is the inflammation.
So there's barely any inflammation later.
And the most important thing about the virus is the payload is the spike protein, okay?
So the virus multiplying either, you know, so the spike protein, you're going to get it from the virus, you're going to get it from the vaccine.
You're going to get way more from the vaccine, actually, than you do from the virus.
And it's going to get injected into your, you know...
It's going to go past your surface immunity, right?
So the virus comes into your nose and mouth.
You have this surface immunity that tries to block it.
Sure. And it doesn't actually...
The spike protein production is kind of slow and gradual.
So you have some time with the virus.
With the injection, suddenly you have this huge spike in the number of spike proteins in your body, and it goes everywhere because of the lipid nanoparticles.
So it's like you take something that's a bioweapon...
And then you like refine it and you make like a super bioweapon with the vaccine, right?
Sure. And it's because of lipid nanoparticles, it's because of the pseudouridine that's in the, you know, in the mRNA.
So like it's a fake base pair.
It's not found in human mRNA.
Artificial, it's synthetic. Artificial, yeah.
So in humanoid. We have uridine, you know, it's a base pair.
There's four base pairs in RNA and four base pairs in DNA. And so for the vaccine or the injection, they created like a synthetic version of that base pair and they stuck it in there to make it more durable, right?
So that your immune system wouldn't just destroy it, you know, as soon as it got injected into your body so that it would trigger an immune response.
You know, terrible idea, right?
Because now we're finding that it's in people's, you know, the lipid nanoparticles, the mRNA is persisting in people's bodies for weeks, you know, maybe months.
You're still producing spike protein, like, for weeks and months after the injection in many cases.
So it's really, the vaccine is a disaster.
But I got to kind of, like, focus people on the fact that the...
The payload is really the spike protein.
You don't want to be exposed to the spike protein either from the infection or from the virus.
If you get the infection, probably everyone in the world at this point is going to get exposed at some point.
And so you have to be exposed, right?
Even if you don't want to be. But if you treat it on day one, you can kill the virus so that it doesn't multiply, so that you barely get any spike protein exposure, and then your body just gets rid of it, and then you're fine, right?
Hey everybody, welcome back to the American Journal.
With me, I've got Dr.
Syed Haider. He is a doctor who specializes in internal medicine.
It's a very valuable perspective that we're bringing to you on the show.
I know my primary care physician is a doctor of internal medicine, so I really do value his opinion.
Last segment we were talking about spike proteins in the body in an article that had crossed my desk about a week ago.
Something that I've kept off to the side here is from LifeSite News.
Here's how to detox from COVID spike protein from the jab or the virus.
So this is something you were just bringing up.
You said whether you get the virus and you develop natural immunity or whether you get the vaccine.
There's going to be a point where your body is going to be producing spike proteins, which are toxic to your body.
And if you look at this here on.cam, what you'll see is that some of the top 10 Spike protein detox essentials include vitamin D, vitamin C, nigella, quercetin, zinc, curcumin, milk thistle extract, NAC, ivermectin, and magnesium.
So it is a little bit of a lot of these things for a holistic approach and a couple of these things for acute infection.
And you When we left, we were just starting to talk about taking ivermectin and being thorough with taking it.
Tell me a little bit more about what ivermectin does for the body in preventing the damage that could be caused by spike protein.
And so ivermectin for the acute infection, even with Omicron, we had to increase the doses, add hydroxychloroquine.
I wasn't even using hydroxychloroquine before.
I knew it worked, but it was hard to get.
And then ivermectin was a lot easier.
Now those have kind of flipped.
Now it's easier to get ivermectin than it is.
Or now it's harder to get ivermectin than hydroxychloroquine.
But regardless, you need to use both.
And I often say use fluvoxamine, use budesonide, a steroid inhaler, you know, throw a bunch of stuff at it in addition to the over-the-counter stuff.
And now we're even telling people to take turmeric or curcumin and black seed oil and just like throw the kitchen sink at it.
And the reason is that To get back to your question, how does ivermectin work, right?
So it's got antiviral effects, and that's going to work in the first couple of days.
So the virus has already been multiplying in your body for like five, six days.
Before you present symptoms. Before you have symptoms.
Before you even have that tickle in the throat, right?
And then you have a few more days of, you know, multiplication.
And at that point, if you hit it like right at the start of that tickle in your throat or that little bit of, you know, mucus or the sneezing starts, You can prevent the vast majority of the illness and all of long COVID, basically.
But you've got to hit it really hard.
I would say, don't just rely on ivermectin.
And that's what a lot of people do.
They rely on the famous drug that they've heard of.
They'll throw in hydroxychloroquine if you tell them to, but they won't throw in the fluvoxamine.
They won't throw in the steroid inhaler.
They won't throw in... Like nowadays, I'm telling people to take a statin, which has anti-inflammatory effects for the blood vessels.
So they don't throw the whole protocol at it.
And that's, I think, the downfall of a lot of people, or they wait too long.
So if you throw even a couple of things at it on day one, you're probably going to do great.
You're probably going to be better within a day or two and avoid long COVID. And why?
Because ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, they have antiviral effects.
It's useful even later because it has anti-inflammatory effects.
The second stage is inflammation.
So first you have the virus multiplying and then the virus is dead.
But the spike protein is causing inflammation everywhere in your body.
And the ivermectin actually prevents that inflammation.
It binds to the spike protein.
It helps your body get rid of it.
So that's why it's useful for even long COVID, right?
So you're soaking up the spike protein, you're stopping the inflammation, you're helping your body do its natural job.
The body naturally heals as long as it's allowed to, as long as there's not something preventing it.
And in this case, it's the spike protein in long COVID that's kicking up Tremendous amount of inflammation in the body.
And so the body, actually, the immune system is not working properly.
It's stuck in a war against something that it can't get rid of.
And so there's collateral damage, which is your body, right?
And your brain and your heart and everything is collateral damage.
Creating all this inflammation and fighting itself, it calms down and then it's able to do the real job, which is get rid of the spike protein, get rid of the cells that are harboring the spike protein, which are monocytes, they're immune cells in your body.
So that, you know, ivermectin is useful throughout, but I got to really stress this, that An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
It's way harder to treat long COVID and a vaccine injury than it is to, first of all, prevent the virus from getting you in the first place or treating it on day one.
So I wouldn't recommend most people try to prevent ever getting it because everyone eventually is probably going to get it, right?
But you want to minimize the damage because I can't stress it enough that what I see with long COVID and what we've seen in studies around the world and in high-level studies, like meta-analyses of multiple other studies, Hundreds of thousands of patients on average they're finding that people know that they have long COVID like they can feel symptoms and those symptoms might be fatigue it might be brain fog you know you can't sometimes you can't work brain fog was a serious issue the second time I got COVID it felt less severe and I believe that was the Delta variant so I had gotten OG COVID as I like to call it but you know that really kicked my butt and I What I actually wound up getting was hydroxychloroquine.
I am Matt Weber here filling in for Harrison Smith.
I've got with me Dr.
Dr. Syed Haider.
And before we went to break, we were talking a little bit about long COVID and we were going back over how important it is to treat it prophylactically rather than having to treat symptoms afterwards of long COVID.
Tell me a little bit about that and maybe some of the things that you prescribe in your protocol other than ivermectin.
So, and also it's like an expert protocol because at this point I've been doing this for 15 months and it's all I've been doing.
So I probably treated more patients than like 99.999% of doctors in the world for COVID. So there's ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, fluvoxamine, which in the phase 3 trial showed a 12 times lower risk of death for people who took it, you know, versus placebo.
Wow, 12 times lower. Huge. Yeah. Tremendously effective.
I think nowadays you have to take, at minimum, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine on day 1 or 2, but I would extremely highly recommend fluvoxamine because I haven't, anyone who took like everything I prescribed, Didn't end up with long COVID if they took it in the first few days.
Whereas sometimes I see people just rely on ivermectin and they end up with long COVID or they end up getting worse.
And so it's really, I got to really stress it.
Take the whole protocol if you can tolerate it.
You know, some people will take, maybe 10% of people have some nausea from fluvoxamine.
We can switch it out to Prozac, which works the same way.
I recommend budesonide.
It's a steroid inhaler if you have lung symptoms as well.
Is anything that you prescribe something that someone should take if they are experiencing symptoms like an adverse reaction after they've had a vaccine?
That stuff is something that you would call forward for.
I would say also throw some steroids in there, a low-dose steroid, just to prevent your immune system from overreacting to the spike protein.
If it doesn't freak out from the spike protein, then it can get rid of it normally, right?
When it overreacts, that's the problem.
That's when it doesn't work properly.
So it's almost like an army fighting itself, so they're not able to fight the enemy, right?
So you've got to prevent the army from fighting itself so that it can actually fight the enemy.
And that's what the steroids, that's what everything is doing here.
It's helping your immune system not to overreact, and the ivermectin binds the spike protein and helps your body Get rid of it.
So that's what you want to do.
And if you feel like you're still having symptoms at five days, then just keep doing it, right?
Keep using the treatments.
And this is important because some people are creating spike protein for weeks and months.
That's what we know now. There's studies showing that the lipid nanoparticles go to your lymph nodes, the mRNA persists for weeks or months because it's got artificial base pair in it, the pseudoruridine, and it's kicking out spike protein.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, all this stuff, you know, it's like breaking news on Alex Jones and Infowars, and then like six months later, finally it trickles down, and somebody does a study and, you know, confirms it.
What everyone knew could theoretically happen, right?
Like, even like reverse transcription into your DNA. I mean...
We don't know. Real scientists knew it was possible.
I mean, there are reverse transcriptase enzymes that can take the RNA and turn it back into DNA and then it can combine with your own DNA. We know that those exist in cells.
Sure. Theoretically, it can happen, right?
But we don't know yet. We rushed it to market, right?
Yeah. I don't mean to shift topics completely, but we were just talking about the immune system and your immune response, you know, inflammation and all that.
Tell me a little bit about the effects of lockdowns on our immune systems.
It was something that we had started to talk about before we actually got on air.
So your immune system, the spike protein is like, you know, like a gun in the coronavirus' hand.
And so the vaccine, it just shows the immune system the gun, right?
It doesn't show you the whole, like the robber and his face and what he looks like, you know, Sure.
Even if they like, you know, have like a scar or they cover up, you know, one eye with an eye patch, you're still going to recognize that person, right?
So natural immunity to other coronaviruses actually gave you cross-reactive immunity to COVID-19.
And so cross-reactive immunity like that lasts for about a year or two.
So like 75%, 80% of people, you know, elderly people, their cross-reactive immunity is a lot weaker because they're old and their immune system just doesn't work as well.
But let's say 70% of people in the world had had like a cold in the two years before COVID hit.
So they had immunity to COVID. And that explains why there was like a case-demic, right?
It was like a lot of cases and a lot of positives and everything.
And, you know, there were problems with the test and everything.
But also people had...
Actual COVID without symptoms, or they had very, very minimal symptoms, right?
And then we did the exact wrong thing, right?
Then we locked down for like a year or two.
And actually, there's no cold viruses, no flu viruses, there's only COVID, right?
And we're not allowing people to be in touch with contact with children.
We're not allowing grandparents to be in contact with children.
They're not developing that natural immunity. So... So you can develop immunity to COVID in a couple of ways, right?
One way is, say you're exposed to a child who has a really mild infection and they're kicking out tiny amounts of COVID, okay?
So there was one study, it's on Substack, it shows that if you had every single child in America infected with COVID-19, they would produce less virus than one sick adult.
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That's unbelievable. Yeah, it's unbelievable, but it's true, right?
Yeah, and then the third thing that it depends on how you do with COVID is whether you treat it, right?
If you use a treatment on day one or if you were taking something preventative.
So if we had allowed kids into nursing homes, Taking these tiny amounts of COVID, they would have actually been the natural vaccines for the community, right?
They would have naturally vaccinated elderly people because they would have exposed them to tiny amounts of COVID and allowed their immune system to recognize it.
So the immune response and immunity doesn't depend on how big the infection is.
Yeah, so I was explaining how 70% of people in the world really had cross-reactive immunity.
And that cross-reactive immunity was from other coronaviruses, like cold viruses basically.
And that cross-reactive immunity lasts for a couple of years, one or two years, right?
So what happened with lockdowns is that we didn't allow people to continue developing immunity to COVID. So COVID kind of like crowded out other viruses like the cold and the flu.
So really it was just COVID in the country.
And that's something that we understand scientifically.
It just like multiplies and like people who catch one virus, they don't catch other viruses in the next one or two months.
And it's like another form of immunity.
Because of that cross-immunity. Yeah, because of cross-immunity.
So it kind of out-competed all the other viruses.
Now, what would have happened if we didn't do lockdowns was that those 70-80% of, you know, young, healthy people who had cross-active immunity would have been exposed to COVID and developed natural immunity to COVID. But instead, with lockdowns, we ended up not exposing a lot of the country to COVID. So a lot of people didn't get exposure to COVID, and there were no other cross-reactive viruses to be exposed to.
So that cross-reactive immunity may be wearing off after the last one or two years of lockdowns.
And so the other thing I was talking about was that kids, they have very tiny amounts of virus that they create.
So they would have acted as a natural vaccine for the whole population.
And I would have said that we should have sent kids into the nursing homes.
Really? They would have taken tiny amounts of COVID to expose their grandparents, right?
Yeah. And their immune system would have learned to react to COVID and recognize COVID without getting a giant inoculum, basically, like a giant dose.
They tried to protect their elderly, which is, you know, that's another great option, just like try to prevent them from getting it in the first place and just let everyone else just, you know, continue, you know, doing business as usual.
And that was a great approach to it.
You know, some of our states, you know, South Dakota kind of took that approach.
And so the states and the countries that took that approach, they ended up Their whole population is now immune, whereas countries that had super strict lockdowns in Australia that didn't let anyone in.
It's been detrimental. Yeah, it's been really detrimental.
And now what we're having is that with all the vaccinations, people have this kind of fake immunity, right?
They think they're immune, but they're not actually immune.
So there's a negative efficacy of vaccines.
And so the vaccines are creating like super variants.
They're driving the evolution of the virus.
So the virus is evolving to evade vaccines and become more infectious.
And so what's going to happen as people don't have that cross-reactive immunity anymore, and they may not have been exposed to COVID because they weren't going to work, they were just staying home, right?
Now they're going to be exposed to worse and worse variants.
And so we may have a big problem coming down the road, right, in the future.
We may have much worse, like really a disaster developing because a vast, you know, a huge number of the population, a huge percentage has like a very weak immune response now to COVID because of vaccines themselves.
And then the rest of the people, if they didn't already get COVID, right, if they're not cross-immune anymore, right, Now they're being exposed to, like, a more contagious version of it.
Like if, for example, Delta, we may have another Delta or something worse than Delta, right?
So a lot of people think that viruses have to evolve to become more infectious but less severe.
That's not always the case.
So some viruses become more infectious and more severe.
And we saw that with Delta, so we know it can happen, right?
So the Delta was worse than the initial one, and now Omicron is...
And, you know, there are people who have long COVID who, like you're saying, can't provide for themselves and they need assistance, you know?
So it is, it can be a huge drain.
And taking it back to perhaps more of a micro scale and people, you know, you don't want to develop long COVID. That is just, it is the worst thing to have to deal with.
You say three to six months, but it can last longer than That's for years.
So adults, it's about 40% that know they have it.
So that's the other thing that you've got to realize, that you could have long COVID inflammation causing damage to your organs and your body, and you don't even know it.
You may not have symptoms, right?
So it may be damaging your heart.
You may be more prone to heart attacks and strokes and things, right?
But it may take years to develop.
Maybe you have a heart attack five years after having COVID that you wouldn't have had if you hadn't had COVID, and it's caused by the spike protein.
So people who really want to know, they can actually do testing.
And there's only one lab that'll do testing.
It's inceldxcovidlonghaulers.com.
You can go there. You can request a test that shows the inflammation that's caused by spike protein.
You can also ask them to run a test looking for spike protein in your body.
Wow. Do you still have spike protein in your body?
So you just ask them to run like a spike protein test.
I don't remember the exact name of it, but you're looking for it.
So some immune cells, they're called monocytes, will hold on to the spike protein and then they'll become like abnormal immune cells that are just causing inflammation.
And that's the cause of long COVID. And you can detect that spike protein in people if they still have it, right?
Is it still there? So if you're one of these people who had COVID or had the vaccine and you feel like you're fine, you may want to check to see if you have that ongoing inflammation that could cause like a deterioration in your health long term.
If you had COVID and then you get it again or you get exposed to somebody who's shedding spike protein, that can itself trigger long COVID. Sometimes the immune system, it does okay the first time around, but it's re-exposed to something.
Then it all of a sudden kicks up a storm and creates an allergic reaction.
Sometimes it's the second exposure.
Actually, that triggers the problem.
Or you get exposed to a variant later on and then all of a sudden you get much worse.
So people have to be aware that there can be a silent problem in the world and we may not know about it for decades.
And it's similar to the approach that the US government, the US government created Lyme disease too, right?
And it causes chronic disease as well.
And this is documented. There's books you can pull up about this, right?
Sure. So Lyme disease is kind of the original bioweapon.
And it, for decades, like doctors just denied it, its existence, right?
Like Lyme, they acknowledge that it causes an acute infection that lasted for a couple of weeks.
But if somebody came to them and said, Doc, I still, I just have this horrible fatigue.
I can't think straight. I just, I can't sleep, whatever.
For years, for decades.
And they would be like... You know, it's all in your head or you have anxiety or whatever.
You have depression. And they just, you know, even now, even now, it's hard to get like real treatment for chronic Lyme.
And so we're going to have this problem with chronic COVID and it's going to be written off and it's going to be covered up and papered over.
And this country is going to be dealing with this.
And why have we had skyrocketing rates of chronic disease, right, for decades now in the Western world, in industrialized societies?
It is a cocktail, which is just mind-blowing to think about not just what people put in their bodies consciously, but what they're not aware of that they're exposed to all the time.
We're coming up on break here.
We've got one more segment coming up with Dr.
Syed Haider of MyGoToDoc.com.
If you gain anything from this, what we do know is that the spike protein is what causes damage.
We're going to find out on the other side what you can do to mitigate the effects of spike protein with Dr.
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Syed Haider. Welcome back to the American Journal.
It's the last segment of the hour before the Alex Jones Show.
I've got Dr. Syed Haider here.
Glad to have him in studio today.
What we have been talking about this whole hour, a wide range of implications from COVID, from vaccines to policy, lockdowns, the immune system.
I was talking to you off-air about autoimmune diseases, and something I found very interesting is your comment on, Yeah, so basically the spike protein causes inflammation, right?
And inflammation is really the root cause of every human disease.
So it just depends on where the inflammation is in your body.
And the spike protein is going to kick up inflammation in your whole body.
And it's going to manifest in places where you have the weakest links.
So especially in places where you already have a disease, you may see the disease worsen.
The rest of your body is able to kind of put up with it.
So you may not have a heart problem.
Maybe you have a lung problem. Maybe you have asthma.
Maybe you have something else. Maybe you have diabetes.
I've seen a lot of people who are pre-diabetic suddenly become like raging diabetics.
And it's because it just kind of pushed them over the edge.
Whereas they had a really healthy heart, so they don't notice heart disease.
But the heart is also...
You know, being inflamed, it's just there's more of an organ reserve there.
So people have like a reserve capacity and if you can decrease the reserve and it does decrease as you get older.
So once it drops below a certain level, that's when disease shows up.
So that's another thing that I've been saying since the beginning that it's really concerning that maybe people have had organ damage and they're not aware of it because they haven't dropped below the reserve capacity that you need to drop below in order to see disease develop.
They're not having symptoms, but what it means is because you naturally, your reserve capacity naturally drops as you get older, it may mean that your health span is shorter than it would have been if you hadn't had COVID and you didn't have the spike protein in your body.
Exactly. But, you know, exposure is something I feel like if we're talking about things realistically or if we're thinking about them realistically, you're going to get exposed.
So how do you go about, you know, taking care of this spike protein one more time for people who are just So the most important thing that people need to understand is that you don't need to be sick to get the medicine to treat COVID. And this is what Uttar Pradesh did in India.
It was the biggest state in India with hundreds of millions of people.
They just gave everyone in that state the things they needed to treat COVID. And they told them the directions, simple directions on the box.
I mean, the numbers just like fell off a cliff and stayed low, right?
Stayed near zero. So that's what we're trying to do here, right?
With mygotodoc.com.
I'm trying to get these drugs into people's medicine cabinets, get them to print out all the directions, get them to ask all their questions, know what to do on day one.
Yeah, so follow through, take, you know, do what I tell you to do.
Take the drugs, you know, take the medications on day one.
Even if you suspect you might have COVID, just start taking them, right?
Like, you can jump the gun, whatever.
That's less of a problem than missing the boat on treating, right?
So you want to treat, you want to pull the trigger, you want to have like a hair trigger response, you know, you start feeling a tickle in the throat, just jump on it, treat it, okay?
And that'll prevent the whole long COVID problem from even beginning.
You don't have to worry about it.
Most of our deaths in this country were over 80.
So I'm not primarily worried about people dying or being hospitalized.
I'm way more worried about long COVID. And so you come to the website You know, you get the medications.
And then the other thing, so we've done a couple of things differently.
So, like, ivermectin you can't get from your local pharmacy.
So a lot of people have health insurance, but it won't cover ivermectin, right?
So you have to buy it out of pocket.
And you can't get it locally.
You have to get it shipped in, right?
So some pharmacies are really kind of price gouging.
I don't know. Maybe they just had access to much higher.
Maybe they ran out and they had to go buy it, you know, again at higher prices.
But whatever the reason... Some people were paying like $700 to $1,000 just for ivermectin out of pocket from a mail order pharmacy.
We sourced pharmacies that have real human grade U.S. ivermectin for $70 to $150 basically for a 14-day course, right?
So they're great manufacturers. Yeah, so they have access to, you know, or maybe they're just not price gouging.
I don't know, but like they're cheap and it's like affordable and you can get a lot of ivermectin at a good price.
So that's one thing that we did differently.
The other thing is that people would go to other websites and some of these websites, you know, unfortunately, they just like tried to hire all these doctors like You know, skin specialists, dermatologists, you know, people who are doing like plastic surgery, and they're just like doing this on the side.
And they're not really experts, so they don't feel comfortable with the doses you have to give.
Like, they'll look up ivermectin, you know, in the dosing guide, and it'll say like, take 0.2 milligrams per kilogram one time.
So a lot of my patients came to me, way too conservative.
I mean, you've got to take it every day, right?
Don't take it once and then again in seven days.
And unfortunately, some of my patients came to me, they were like, I have COVID and this is what I was told to do.
So you've got to go to somebody who knows what they're doing, who stays abreast of the latest developments and the latest protocols.
The latest doses, yeah. So we've been constantly increasing the doses as we've gone along, as we've seen on the ground that we need higher and higher doses to treat the virus.
So that's important to go to a site like mine where there's expertise.
And the other thing is that a lot of the other sites, people would go to them and they would get their questions answered, whatever questions they could think of, and then they would think of another question a couple of weeks later.
And then you had to go back and pay again for like another quote unquote visit.
Whereas with my site, you can have basically free medical chat questions like indefinitely.
You can come to the site and ask all the questions you want.
Even if it's like a year later and you're like, oh, there's something else I thought of, you know.
That's well worth the value because if you have the right drugs, but you don't have the right protocol or the right routine to follow, then it's just as good as not having the drugs at all.
Yeah, you're getting a lot of value out of just that one-time payment to really get in.
And tell me a little bit about how you're able to kind of deal with the capacity or you're able to basically get patients access to what they need quickly.
Yeah, so I mean, I have like a huge staff that helps me, right?
So I have a lot of medical assistants.
I have doctors helping me answer questions.
So the answers, for example, all came from me, but like 99% of the time people ask the same questions over and over again.
So I have like a lot of people and physicians and nurses who are trained like with all of my frequently asked questions.
So you come and you ask the same question that's already asked, they'll just send you my answer from before.
But if there's a new question that no one's ever asked, you get like a new answer from me, right?
Or if there's some new wrinkle on it, you know, I'm going to answer the question.
They'll send it to me and be like, hey, doc, you never answered this before.
What's the answer, right? So just like I had to hire a lot of people to help me like, you know, kind of streamline all of this, help me write prescriptions, you know, like they all come from me, like they're all my directions, but I got people helping me write them, right?
Like you have a medical assistant, you tell them like, hey, this guy needs this, write it down, you know, or call the pharmacy and tell them that they need this.
So that's the only way I've been able to scale.
And it's still, it's basically me, right?
Like I'm the doctor, right?
At the top of it, who's basically dealing with all of this.
And so we have been able to scale up and we have been able, like we aim to get like a turnaround of like 24 hours or less.
And, you know, sometimes there's a spike and it kind of like slows down a little bit.
So the important thing is that in order to be scalable like this, you've got to use a lot of asynchronous methods.
And what that means, it's not like live one-on-one.
It's like the patient sends a message and then like...
One of my staff or myself sees it and then we reply maybe like an hour or two later or maybe 12 hours later.
So it's kind of like you're texting a friend who doesn't have time to look at it right away.
It's not a live text chat.
It's more of like you send it and then when we have a chance we reply and then you reply.
You can also call our number.
It's 281-219-7367.
Talk to somebody live if you really need an answer right away about something.
So that allowed me and us to scale at MyGoToDoc.com was doing things asynchronously, basically.
So when people are able to reply, they do reply.
But our main goal is to try to get you the medications way before you need them.
So you don't need to worry about Okay, I don't have it or I'm still waiting for the ivermectin to come in the mail from the pharmacy.
If you try to do this when you get sick or even when you get exposed and you're like, oh my God, I was at a wedding and somebody had COVID and I think I'm going to get it.
Brother, I'm so glad you called to elaborate on this.
Yes, now is the time in your small town or your big city to write something on the bathroom wall, or to put a sign up on your barn, or to put a sticker on your car, or banner hangs over highways, and it will be a chain reaction.
Beautifully said. What do you recommend people say on these banner hangs?
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I have a few ideas. First of all, Alex Jones is very cool.