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You're listening to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
kristi leigh
Welcome in.
Welcome in.
This is Christy Lee in for Harrison Smith today.
Guest hosting today, so I guess you could say I identify as Harrison Smith today.
I am no stranger to a news desk, but I will say I am a stranger to having no teleprompters.
So this should be interesting.
I appreciate your grace through this process.
But before we get to more about me, we're going to get to breaking news right now.
We got a call from Alex Jones this morning.
This is from Reuters.
It's an exclusive.
And this is the latest news.
FBI finds scant evidence U.S.
Capitol attack was coordinated sources.
The FBI found scanned evidence that the January 6 attack on the U.S.
Capitol was a result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result.
Goes on to say the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump.
And also goes on to say there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages.
I wonder if this will have any effect on the mainstream news narrative.
With this new information, prosecutors have steered clear of more serious politically loaded charges that the sources said had been initially discussed by prosecutors, such as seditious conspiracy or racketeering.
Also will be interesting if we're going to hear those buzzwords anymore.
And this was an interesting part of the article coming from Reuters.
It was the most violent attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812, forcing lawmakers and Trump's own vice president, Mike Pence, to scramble for safety.
Four people died and another died the following day.
Now this really grinds my gears as a former news anchor because it is misleading.
We know that a couple of those people died from suicide and one we know died from something unrelated to the attack.
Funny we don't ever mention the woman that died at the hands of a Capitol Police officer.
So frustrating, but we'll have more on that later.
Keep you updated.
Big breaking news for the day.
So back to my involvement here.
One of the big questions now that we're already running out of time that I'm going to be tackling today is, because faith is important to me, how we as Christians should be responding to the current climate.
So let's take this video.
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How can Christians speak about political issues?
And should ministers speak about political issues?
Because, after all, isn't the Bible about salvation and heaven?
You know, it's always been a little bit of a tension, but I've shared this statistic, and it's a statistic only of about a year ago, so I think it's still pretty relevant.
But the Barna Research Group, highly respected, said that 74% of all parishioners want their clergy to speak about moral issues, social current events through a biblical lens.
But yet only about 12% of pastors do.
Believe it or not, the Bible is a very political book.
Now, I know it's about God and salvation, but the Bible talks about morality, behavior, responsibility, consequences for behavior.
The Bible talks about just
Laws morally sufficient laws and laws that are unjust and so frankly I would argue that part of the social disorder and upheaval that we're seeing right now is because many ministers and clergy have not Courageously from their pulpits talked about what saith the Lord You know just as as God thundered from Mount Sinai and Moses was the great lawgiver I mean clergy and spiritual leaders must
So why are we talking about this today?
Well, here's why.
I mean, we're not called to say necessarily what people always want to hear, but what people need to hear. - So why are we talking about this today?
kristi leigh
Well, here's why.
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I have struggled with this myself.
kristi leigh
I have struggled being in church with everybody masked up.
I wanted to know how other Christians feel about this, what other people think is our responsibility.
And we'll talk more about that in the next break and hopefully give you an opportunity to introduce myself because I know you have no idea who I am.
So we'll get more into that in the next segment.
unidentified
You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band dot video.
Just kidding.
kristi leigh
It is Christy Lee today.
I'm guest hosting for Harrison Smith.
You may not know much about me, so I'm going to be getting to that in a minute, but I am a former news anchor.
You'll see that in the video that I had prepared that we haven't shown to the audience yet, but In the last segment, we were talking about this question, this internal struggle.
I'd had an internal struggle with news.
That was my childhood dream job.
And when it went sour and was unrecognizable, I left.
I'm going to be hearing about that in a minute.
But I also struggle with what we as Christians are supposed to be doing in a situation like that.
When you go to church, you see everybody masked up.
Are we supposed to be more courageous about these issues?
That's the question of the day.
I was just reading, uh, in Titus, uh, in the Bible the other day, it talked about being subservient to rulers and authorities and being obedient.
And this was in the time of the evil leadership of Nero.
So it's just like, how is that what we're commanded to do?
Or what are their other arguments?
I really want to discuss this when we take phone calls later, but I also want you to get to know me.
So we're gonna go ahead and play this about me video.
After nearly 20 year news career, about 13 in TV news, and about half that as a main evening news anchor in Ohio and then California, I now find myself a corporate-controlled media fugitive.
I'm Christy Lee, and here's my story.
I grew up in Northwest Ohio, a shy and pretty sheltered homeschooled kid.
Well, not shy at home, of course.
I was the annoying kid asking so many questions.
My parents began calling me their little reporter.
I recall this nickname when asked what I wanted to be when I grew up.
Intrigued by getting to ask more questions and in admiration of my theatrical dad, I majored in broadcast journalism with a goal to sit at the anchor desk with our hometown news legend.
A big goal for a former shy and shelter kid.
Well, I excelled in college, earning journalism awards, even taking a year off to earn licenses in the family financial business to essentially become an investment advisor, rep or stockbroker.
There was plenty of failures and discouragements along the way, battling nerves and, of course, my underlying shyness.
The first of many of those hurdles.
You have any questions about the parking regulations at this point?
Just call the divisions, the Division of Street, Bridges and Harbor for clarification.
I started as a one-man band, writing, shooting, editing my stories all on my own, moved up the ladder through working at every news affiliate in town, and after having three kids in the process and enduring a very painful divorce, God's grace blessed me with my childhood dream job.
Anchoring the evening news on the station I grew up watching, next to local celebrity Jerry Anderson.
I had so many great experiences worked with and learned from so many great journalists, got to tell some amazing stories, won more awards, but I started noticing a shift.
The news industry as a whole was becoming more influenced and driven by social media.
Advertising money was a struggle to come by, which influenced some editorial decisions, as well as a bigger push to do more with less.
Many of our reporters were getting burnt out, having to shoot and edit their own stories, sometimes multiple a day, while posting content to web and social media.
Intentions seemed good, but it was becoming a concern to me that the necessary time to research, dig deeper, and find all angles just wasn't there.
March 8th, 2019.
That was a day at the anchor desk I'll never forget.
We had breaking news at the top of our show.
A major car accident had traffic even more backed up on the expressway.
It was a day one of even more construction that would narrow traffic at 475 and 75.
My mom was texting me and I was feeling annoyed at this point.
Doesn't she know I'm live on the show at this hour?
She was trying to get more information on the accident.
Well, it turns out it was my brother who slammed into the back of a semi-truck when traffic came to a sudden stop.
His daughter in the passenger seat.
He spent his last breaths calming her down while a retired former deputy held his hand from the outside of his car and prayed with him.
He didn't make it, but my niece did, with barely a scratch.
I can't help but think her dad, my brother, had a hand in her protection.
I want to take a moment to thank my work family here at WTOL and WUPW and each and every one of you for the kindness and compassion you've shown me and my family during the great loss of my brother in a car accident I reported just a week ago to the day.
My siblings and I grew up here.
This community is our memories.
It is our family and we've all lost a great, kind man.
I don't want you to know him as Christy Lee's brother.
I have been lucky to be Matt Foreman's little sister, and we will be reunited someday in heaven.
I know many of you have suffered great losses like this as well, and now I grieve with you.
October 2019, I decided it was time to move on.
I'd spent my whole career in the same market.
I had to see what it was like outside my hometown.
Never mind, taking the same route to work where my brother lost his life was extremely difficult.
And God, in his unending grace, opened a door.
He had more to show me.
A California news station in the Central Valley gave me a very generous offer and moved me across the country.
A new adventure.
But I got more than I bargained for.
Pretty much as soon as I arrived, everything shut down.
I spent the next year in a new place, homeschooling my three kids, in a long-distance relationship, and reporting what felt like non-stop about pandemic and politics.
The news sent down from nationals started becoming unrecognizable to how I was taught journalism was supposed to be.
And it only got worse.
scripts full of adjectives, no sources given, an arrogant approach to journalism that we are to be the arbiter of truth, the gateway, rather than just deliver the news with sources and respect our audience enough to evaluate for themselves.
I observed some former colleagues and even some new ones cheering on the selective censorship of voices rather than be a voice for the voiceless.
I observed unapologetic promotion of political ideals from those who were supposed to remain neutral.
Consensus now means truth in this new approach.
Fierce defense of the rich and powerful is the new name of the game as opposed to holding them accountable and examining motives and conflicts of interest.
Narrative news has taken over one of the most beautiful things about journalism.
The thing that led me down this road as a child.
Curiosity.
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And always asking a lot of questions.
kristi leigh
I spent months wrestling with what to do.
I had three kids to support, but I wasn't feeling good about what I was doing anymore.
As a news anchor introducing national stories that lacked journalistic integrity, I felt complicit in the division and confusion we were all feeling.
I prayed about what to do and got answered in an unlikely way.
I got a Zoom call one day with HR on the line informing me I was one of hundreds being laid off across the country.
It became the catalyst in what I knew needed to be done.
I had to break the chains of corporate-controlled media and embrace what freedom I could find through going independent.
I hope to balance the one-sided news narrative, hold those in power accountable, be a voice for the voiceless, and keep asking questions.
I hope you do the same, and I thank you for your support.
So there you go.
Thanks for humoring me.
I just wanted an opportunity to introduce myself and that's my backstory.
I know that many of you know how important it is to ask questions and so it's very shocking and uncomfortable to now be in a situation where you're called a conspiracy theorist just for asking questions.
But I want to continue.
I want to be able to share with you what true journalism is supposed to be so that you can spot it and challenge it when you see those that are saying that they're just neutral news and you know that they're not.
This has been a journey for me.
It's been an internal struggle.
And as far as breaking out into independent news, which I have, you have a website KLTV dot news.
I wanted to just do news the right way, just both sides and let the viewers decide.
But this is evolving as I go along because we're dealing with such a divide that we I'm dealing with also the faith aspect of it, which is why today's question is, what do we do as Christians?
How involved should we be?
How brave should we be?
Should we be subservient?
So I really want to get into that and talk about that when we take phone calls a little bit later on.
But I do also want to remind you of this breaking news before we go to break.
Alex Jones is cleared by the FBI.
That's in a Reuters exclusive.
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I'll see you back after this break.
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christy Leaf.
I'm guest hosting for Harrison Smith today.
Big day today.
We have breaking news.
Exclusive FBI finds scant evidence the U.S.
Capitol attack was coordinated.
And this is also huge because it says right here in the Reuters article, there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages.
So there it is, just came out today.
We got a call about this.
But I wonder what the mainstream news is going to do with this information.
Is this just going to be old news tomorrow?
Are they going to continue to use all their buzzwords of planned attack, insurrection, and all of these things?
Also wanted to point out my frustration with this article.
Down the line, it says, was the most violent attack on the Capitol since the War of 1812.
Yeah, it was really violent.
People walking around, just moseying around the Capitol, but most violent since War of 1812.
And four people died and another died the following day.
There's also no sources as far as The comment that it was the most violent attack, never mind needing any sources.
But four people died, another died the following day.
Doesn't bother to clarify that a couple of those were suicides and another of natural causes.
The only one that actually died was the one at the hands of the Capitol Police officers.
But you all know that.
Speaking of things happening at the Capitol, I'm sure you saw the news yesterday.
Police identify a suspect who surrendered after claiming to have a bomb near the US Capitol.
This developed throughout the day.
It was interesting that the first I saw was a media alert.
Media alert, there's a guy in a truck outside of the Capitol instead of What you would think that they would be focusing on the police and law enforcement response.
But no, they wanted to make real darn sure that the media knew that a guy in a truck, that they're saying in the article from CNN, the first line, a man with a history of supporting former President Donald Trump.
That's the most important part of all of this because it's in the first sentence, according to CNN.
They have identified the suspect as 49-year-old Floyd Ray Roseberry.
They talk about how his Facebook page had all of these things about President Trump and the mag rallies and everything.
But they, of course, took the page down.
So it's not like any of us can go back and see when these were posted and see when this man started things.
So why am I being skeptical?
Well, that's supposed to be your job as a journalist.
If you don't know who I am, I am a longtime former news anchor.
And I left the, I guess you could say I'm a corporate controlled fugitive.
I left the confines of what has turned out to be a big joke.
And now I'm doing news independently.
I have kind of the same reaction that many on Twitter had.
You saw a lot of people, false flag was trending.
It just seemed like such a setup.
Of course, we can't say that, but it was.
But that was clearly the other sentiment that other people were feeling.
We have a tweet from Cat Turd.
He said, lol, false flag was trending with almost 10,000 tweets.
Now it mysteriously has 1,580 tweets.
580 tweets.
When you would try and find the video of the man outside the Capitol, they scrubbed that shortly after as well.
You couldn't find that.
People, oh my gosh, there was so much people, so many people commenting on how this just seemed so over the top.
Of course, it was a guy in a truck.
Of course, he had a cowboy hat on the dash.
Do we have that video ready?
Oh, okay.
We're going to take a little bit more time to get that video ready, but But again, the false flag was trending and Twitter didn't like that very much.
So somehow they they got it down by to like 10 percent of people calling it a false flag.
There was other tweets up here saying no one no one with a brain believes this is legit.
I mean, it also is worrying because we know that we just recently had them calling anyone domestic terrorists that has questions or concerns about election integrity, anyone that's resisting COVID mandates.
And they said, watch out for 9-11.
If this was any kind of setup, you would expect that to happen and kind of be leading up to 9-11 for something to happen.
Oh, we'll see that we had this happen outside the Capitol.
This guy in a truck saying it was going to blow up a block and a half.
And now we have this.
I mean, so it is a cause for concern.
And I want you to be able to judge for yourself if we can get that video up, how legit this seems or not.
So after we, well, I'll just wait and see when that's ready, but I'll move on to, we've been asking, where's Durham?
Where's Durham?
Well, we finally did get some.
News from the conservative brief.
Yesterday, I saw a Durham grand jury investigating if someone presented FBI with fabricated evidence in 2016 Russia probe.
It does say that Durham is presenting the evidence to a grand jury regarding the investigation into the origins of the Trump Russia investigation.
He's focusing on whether someone lied to the FBI and gave them false evidence.
If someone working for Clinton's team was involved with the unverified dossier or gave the FBI fabricated evidence to jumpstart the Trump-Russia investigation, that could be a crime.
So it is good to finally have some information on this.
But again, what took so long?
Okay, we do have that video ready of the dangerous man outside the Capitol.
Take a look.
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But I'm telling you, them snipers come in, they start shooting this window out.
This bomb's going off because it was built by y'all's people.
By the people y'all had in the military.
Y'all were the ones that trained the man to build it.
He blowed his legs off building them.
So this thing's right.
And when he tells me that when the decimals hit a certain peak, that it'll go, it's gonna go.
Don't do it, Biden.
Don't pull that trigger, because if you do, They're four more going off.
Four more.
And I ain't got hands on none of them.
They sitting in cars all over this f***ing place around here, because you thought the South wasn't coming.
Well, Joe Biden, the South's coming.
The roads are blocked.
And I'm waiting on your phone call.
It's your call.
You got an option.
kristi leigh
We can just come out of it right now.
unidentified
You can shoot me and kill me right here and blow up two and a half cities.
kristi leigh
So what do you think about this?
Does it does it feel legit?
I mean, it's just to me, it just seems so over the top.
unidentified
Y'all, y'all, you see his his.
kristi leigh
Hat there on the dash.
Of course, he has a lifted truck.
I mean, it's just like if you were to build a narrative like, what should a Trump supporter look like and sound like?
I mean, of course, no proof or evidence of that, but it just doesn't sit right.
When we take calls later, you'll have to let me know what you think.
But it is interesting that Hashtag false flag was trending and it is interesting that you can't even check out this guy's Facebook page because they already scrubbed it.
It's also interesting but not surprising that CNN has a man with a history of supporting former President Donald Trump was outside the Capitol threatening with a bomb.
That's the first sentence.
unidentified
That's the most important part of the article, right?
kristi leigh
My goodness.
Up next, we're going to be talking about people taking a stand, people that are being brave, that are standing up.
And we're going to hear from Steve Kirsch.
He is the one that has been targeted, banned, censored for appearing on the podcast with Dr. Robert Malone and has some concerns, wants to get out there.
COVID early treatment.
We'll have that next.
unidentified
You're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
kristi leigh
Watch it live right now at band.video. .News, your source for news that actually gives sources, and increasingly, your source for speaking to people that the mainstream just does not want to be heard.
Welcoming today, I'm going to be welcoming Steve Kirsch.
He's an entrepreneur, environmentalist, philanthropist, and most recently, I guess I could say, the founder of a COVID-19 treatment fund.
So welcome in, Steve Kirsch.
You're also one of the latest to be targeted by censorship.
Tell me how you got involved in all this, like your background and how you joined this little club of those being censored.
steve kirsch
Well, I've been a medical philanthropist for 20 years, and when COVID hit, I talked to doctors.
They told me that treating people early with outpatient treatments and repurposed drugs was the fastest, cheapest, and safest way To end the pandemic.
And it turned out that they were absolutely correct.
And so we found drugs that were effective.
And I started talking about them.
I said, Hey, fluvoxamine has been effective in a hundred percent.
It's been a hundred percent of effective against preventing hospitalization in a hundred percent of the trials.
So there were two trials so far and both were a hundred percent.
So LinkedIn suspended my account.
That's an interesting way to put it.
Lovaxamine worked and also that ivermectin worked.
And I also said that mask wearing does nothing.
I mean, using masks to protect people against the coronavirus is a little bit like using a chain link fence to stop a mosquito.
kristi leigh
That's an interesting way to put it.
So have you been called an anti-vaxxer because you're advocating for early treatment?
steve kirsch
I've been called an anti-vaxxer because I think early treatments are better than than the vaccine.
Had I known what I know now about the vaccine and early treatment at the time that I got the vaccine, I probably, oh well, I wouldn't have gotten it.
kristi leigh
So you did get the COVID-19 vaccine?
steve kirsch
Oh yes, yes I took the vaccine.
kristi leigh
Which one did you get?
steve kirsch
I got Moderna.
And when did you get that vaccine?
My family is totally vaccinated.
But, you know, there are huge risks in taking an experimental vaccine.
And there's still a lot of things that we don't know about it.
And so early treatment is simply a Much safer alternative.
And it's just a better option for people than than vaccination.
And it has a higher effectiveness.
It has a higher relative risk reduction.
So the Fareed Tyson protocol that's that's used in Southern California has a relative risk reduction of 99.76.
And that's against all variants, too.
So because it's not specific, it wasn't designed for a specific variant.
And so when you have a relative risk reduction like that with no long-term effects, no deaths at all, it's a better alternative for anyone.
It just makes so much more sense.
You know, the one thing that everyone in the hospital today or everyone who died today has in common is none of them got early treatment.
They all listened to what the CDC said to say, Oh, stay home.
And if you qualify, get a monoclonal, but none of them got early treatment.
That's the common thing in, in hospitals and people who are dying from COVID that the NIH should be talking about.
And the CDC should be talking about, they should be saying the common thing is they didn't get her early treatment.
We're trying to change the narrative and let people know and But the press won't investigate.
You know, the Fareed Tyson, they've treated thousands of patients.
And the only patients that even go to the hospital are the patients who started the treatment late.
But the press won't report on that.
I mean, there's been, I think there've been no stories except in the local paper about that.
But you'll never see, you'll never ever see George Fareed or Brian Tyson On CNN or any of the mainstream news, you know, New York Times will never cover these guys because they can cure COVID and turn it into a very mild disease just with outpatient drugs.
But they're not the only ones and they don't have the only effective early treatment protocol.
We know of lots of physicians that use different early treatment protocols and very, very few people get hospitalized and when they do, it's usually for a very short amount of time.
kristi leigh
It's still hard to grasp the motivation.
It sounds like you're saying that it's just kind of ignorance.
steve kirsch
They don't want to look at the source data.
They don't want to read the Pfizer report.
They want to make excuses to fit the belief that Tony Fauci is right.
And so it's the trust in Fauci, right?
And it's the narrative shouldn't be that, well, you know, all the people who are in the hospital today have one thing in common.
It's that they didn't get early treatment.
All the people in the hospital today are there because they listen to the CDC advice to stay home.
And if you have really severe symptoms, go to the hospital.
But the NIH isn't saying that any early treatments work when in fact is the case.
So the one thing that everybody has in common in the hospital, or almost everyone has in the hospital today, is none of them got early treatment.
And we're going to start to see this change dramatically because there's going to be one state that is going to go and start to go big time on early treatment.
And what's going to happen in that state is that those death rates are going to plummet.
And that governor is going to prove to the entire world that the CDC and the NIH and the FDA were wrong in ignoring proven early treatments.
And it's going to be a big embarrassment for the press, for the government agencies and for Congress.
kristi leigh
OK, we do need to start wrapping up, but I do want to hopefully leave on like a positive note.
What do we do with all this information?
I mean, I'm obviously a proponent of true journalism, fundamental journalism, which allows for both sides.
Clearly we're getting the one narrative, so I always feel like I don't need to rehash that.
So I want your side to be heard.
I think these are important things to discuss because they're just so important.
We at least deserve to listen and hear and look.
But what do we do?
You can't get Congress, people that are elected to represent you to listen.
You can't get the three-letter agencies to listen.
You get mocked for speaking up.
You get censored.
So is there any hope you can give us in how we move forward with all this?
steve kirsch
Yes.
So we found one governor in the world who is willing to go to bat for early treatment.
And what will happen is that that state in the United States will have a dramatically lower rate of hospitalization.
Like anybody in the hospital will be the people who didn't opt for early treatment.
And they will say, hey, we authorize these three or five or six early treatment protocols.
And anyone who gets COVID, who gets treated with those protocols, is not going to end up in the hospital.
And the important thing for Delta, by the way, is to get treated super early.
So you want to have the Medicaid.
This is very important.
You want to have these medications on hand and available to you.
So you want to call your doctor in advance for the prescription.
So that if you do get COVID and you do have symptoms and you have one of these 15-minute early tests that say you have COVID, you start the treatment immediately and you won't end up in the hospital.
Because for Delta, it's very, very important that you don't delay even by a day.
kristi leigh
That was Steve Kirsch.
And part of my theme today is taking a stand.
And he is taking a stand.
He actually signed off with me from that interview saying, this may be my last interview before I'm fired.
I've been warned by my company, Antenna, I believe.
That if I speak anything against vaccines, I will be fired.
So we did actually allow him to self-censor himself a little bit, cut some parts out, trying to at least protect his job.
But either way, he's taking a stand and we applaud him for it.
We'll have more from Steve Kirsch after the break.
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The first time.
You try and have these debates or have this discourse.
kristi leigh
You're shut down if they say that your study that you're presenting isn't good enough or your source isn't good enough.
And that's just the way they shut it down.
They don't want to talk about any of the logic or the evidence.
It's just, well, that wasn't peer reviewed or such.
So when you're talking about masks, I had heard that there had not been a peer-reviewed mask study, but doing a little searching on my own, you can find peer-reviewed, peer-reviewed, peer-reviewed that masks work.
So what is the breakdown here?
Why are you saying that the masks don't work when they have their little quote-unquote peer-reviewed studies that say that they do?
Explain this to me.
steve kirsch
Okay, so first of all, the first and one of the best peer-reviewed studies that was published in a journal They had to change the conclusion of the study to say that masks work in order to get their study published.
Let me repeat that.
They had to change their conclusion in order to get their paper published.
Okay, and this is well known.
This was documented in an op-ed in the British Medical Journal talked about this.
That they had to change their conclusion in order to get published.
Their conclusion was that mask wearing didn't work.
And so because the mask can't work because the CDC itself says masks, for example, don't work for protecting you against smoke inhalation.
Well, guess what?
The virus is smaller than smoke particles.
So if the CDC says that it doesn't work for smoke particles, how can it work for viruses?
It doesn't make sense.
They changed the narrative, you know, sort of to suit their purposes.
But, you know, masking is all political theater.
You know, as I said, it's like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence.
It's not going to work.
And the important thing for Delta, by the way, is to get treated super early.
So you want to have the Medicaid.
This is very important.
You want to have these medications on hand and available to you.
So you want to call your doctor in advance for the prescription so that if you do get COVID and you do have symptoms and you have one of these 15-minute early tests that say you have COVID, you start the treatment immediately and you won't end up in the hospital.
Because for Delta, it's very, very important That you don't delay even by a day.
kristi leigh
But what if your doctor won't prescribe you the prescription?
steve kirsch
Then you get another doctor who will.
And there are doctors who will, who believe in doctoring, instead of just following the advice of the NIH.
And those people, you know, are typically the telemedicine docs, but I think that In this state, you'll start to see a lot of doctors who are then going to be pressured to actually do one of these early treatment protocols, and they'll be very impressed with the results.
And this is why doctors who start these early treatment protocols keep going, because they don't lose any patients to hospitalization or death.
And yet their peers are too afraid to try things like ivermectin or fluvaxamine, even though those drugs like You know, we'll kill virtually nobody, you know, like fluvoxamine.
I know of two people who have died in 40 years from all the fluvoxamine, you know, that's ever been dispensed.
And for ivermectin, it's even better.
Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs ever invented.
And there's 23 studies that show that ivermectin is effective.
And there is the A systematic review, which is the highest level of evidence-based medicine, that says that it works.
It's like going to the Supreme Court and winning.
And yet the NIH will not acknowledge that peer-reviewed systematic review, which is what we should be doing with evidence-based medicine.
So we mandate masks which don't have a good double-blind clinical trial that show that it works.
We mandate that.
But for something that reaches to the highest levels of evidence-based medicine We say, don't use it.
I mean, it is completely opposite to how we should be operating.
We should respect evidence-based medicine.
Fluvoxamine was confirmed in a phase three trial and the NIH knows it.
They do nothing about it.
And they reason that, well, we haven't seen the paper.
Come on.
It's already been proven in two other trials with 100% efficacy.
It was lower in this trial because the P1 variant is more aggressive than Delta, and it was given four days late, so that's why it had a lower effect.
kristi leigh
Is this contracts with the vaccines that keep them from wanting to look at anything else?
That's why I keep on saying, is this like a money thing?
Is this they don't want to break a contract?
I just don't understand.
steve kirsch
I think they believe Fauci, that early treatments don't work.
People don't look into the details of the studies.
People aren't examining this.
It is trust and authority and it is delegated trust.
Whenever I talk to a doctor about this information, they say, "Well, I trust what the AMA says, and I trust what the NIH says, and I trust what the CDC." And I say, well, have you ever looked at actually the primary data?
Have you ever looked at the studies themselves?
Can you give me an example in history where there have been 23 positive trials on ivermectin, and where the drug was later found to be dangerous, you know, or actually kill people?
Well, no, we haven't, but we don't have time to look at that.
Right.
So they only have time to believe the experts.
And when the experts have a political agenda, which is, you know, Biden's agenda is directing to the FDA.
And when you try to talk to the universities, we talked to the top panel at Stanford and they said, look, we don't disagree with anything that you've said, but we have our orders from above and we can't change that.
So further conversations will be unproductive.
So they're just going to let kids die here.
kristi leigh
Do you have any final thoughts?
I mean, I feel like we could go on and on.
And so that means we're going to have to do another interview in the future.
Just signing you up right now.
unidentified
Do you have any final thoughts today?
steve kirsch
You know, we're not doing this because we're making money or because we're conspiracy theorists.
I don't have any history of being a conspiracy theorist or speaking against science or spouting up misinformation.
Everything that I've said I can't get scientists to read what I've written because they said, well, I disagreed with two of the points, so I stopped reading what you wrote.
And so they won't confront it.
And when you confront them, nobody, nobody in the world, in mainstream academia, in Congress, In the NIH, the CDC or the FDA, nobody will debate our team in public on these issues.
Nobody.
They will refuse to debate.
And people who lie, that's what they have to rely on.
They have to rely on censorship, which now has been formally instituted.
By the White House to say that we're going to deal with these people with censorship.
We're not going to be dealing with these people with open debate, but the American people like nearly 100% of people believe that these differences should be resolved in open debate, but everybody is afraid to debate us.
We have an open call to anybody who will debate us.
Eric Topol, all the Monica Gandhi, the the the Dean of the School of Medicine of They all refuse to have an open debate where we can discuss the issues, because if we had an open debate, they would be exposed.
And that's the reason that we don't have an open debate, is because they would be exposed very badly, and the American public would see what was going on.
And so the only way to deal with people who are telling the truth right now is censorship.
kristi leigh
And there you go, that's the strongest argument that you have is that if they are truly concerned about vaccine hesitancy, if they're truly concerned that this vaccine works, then the best argument that they could do is allow for open debate.
Why won't they allow everyone to have a voice?
steve kirsch
Bring on the autopsies.
Bring it on.
kristi leigh
Bring on the open debate.
Alright, how do we follow you while we still can and keep up to date and find this information for ourselves?
steve kirsch
On Twitter, there's an account called VaccineTruth2.
And, you know, if people follow that, they'll get the straight story.
And if Twitter then censors VaccineTruth2, you can go on Gab and follow VaccineTruth2 there.
And so, you know, I think that accounts like that, Robert Malone is another account that people can follow on Twitter still.
He's been removed twice on LinkedIn.
He's back.
You can follow him on LinkedIn, Robert Malone on LinkedIn.
And then Peter McCullough, you know, these people are all truth tellers.
They're risking their reputation and Robert Malone is risking a Nobel Prize.
to speak out on the truth because he's so upset that the FDA did not do the proper safety testing.
And even now, it's unbelievable that we're recommending this to pregnant women.
And we've never completed even the original study on pregnancy.
And Moderna just started a pregnancy trial to see if it's safe.
But the CDC is not putting safety into account here.
It's very tragic what's happening.
kristi leigh
It is.
It is very sad.
Well, thank you for joining us today and hopefully we'll get to catch up again soon and have better news at that time.
steve kirsch
Yeah, my pleasure.
unidentified
- For sure. - All right, thank you. - You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
My name is Christy Lee.
I am guest hosting today for Harrison Smith.
Thank you for your grace as I embark on this brand new thing I've never done before.
No stranger to a news desk, but I am a stranger to not having any teleprompter at all, so.
Nerve-wracking but also freeing at the same time.
So in the last hour we closed that out with hearing from Steve Kirsch.
I'm kind of loosely basing this on taking a stand because I say I had an internal struggle with the direction of journalism.
I have sometimes an internal struggle with How I want to take my new venture as far as journalism goes.
I know I want it to be faith based.
That is the number one thing for me.
But what does that look like?
So we heard from Steve Kirsch and he taking a stand.
He said it might be his last interview before he gets fired.
He has gotten that threat.
Also taking a stand is this young woman.
Tiffany Wilder, she had a post on Facebook that you really have a really hard time finding now.
But let me pull this up here.
It reads, I have worked in the public indoctrination system since 2011.
Yesterday, I took a stand for humanity and our beautiful children.
These kids are being coerced into a future where they have no rights, brainwashed into not questioning authority, using their intuition or critical thinking skills.
They are being muzzled and separated from their friends and taught to define and judge others based on the color of their skin.
I refuse to be a part of any of this abhorrent agenda.
I walked in on the first day sans mask.
I take my job as a positive role model to children seriously, and I will not be an example of a sheep.
unidentified
Ms.
kristi leigh
Tiffany doesn't muzzle her face, and neither should you.
I was asked to exit my classroom, put on leave without pay.
I implore everyone follow suit.
We are so powerful as a collective, and we can shift this evil paradigm into the beautiful manifestation that we know is possible.
Stand strong in your truth and integrity.
God has beautiful plans for us on the other side of fear.
Reading some of the comments was a little bit painful.
Of course, there were those encouraging, but man, are those people mean!
There's tweets about her saying she should never be allowed around children again, so she's definitely taking the heat.
It was hard to find some of her videos that she had put out before, saying that she has no regrets, that she's going to just keep running with this and taking a stand.
I imagine she's just going off donations at this point, but I think we need to do more of this and be inspired by others.
And as long as we're talking, do we have a little of that video that we're going to play for her?
Did you already play it?
They might have already played it when I was reading.
We'll just move on.
Oh, there it is.
So that is the video that she posted, I guess, right before she was put on leave.
Because gosh, you can't point things like that out, that you're not racist just because you're white.
Gosh, that does not go well in the public school system.
All right, so moving on, I wanted to get to a little bit of COVID news.
I saw that this dropped last night.
Texas drops mask mandate ban enforcement in public schools.
I was like, when I first heard this, I'm like, even the headline is a bit confusing.
I'm like, what?
So there's a mask mandate, but we're dropping the enforcement.
Okay, and so Governor Greg Abbott had a ban on mask mandates.
It was upheld by the Texas Supreme Court, but we're still facing resistance.
I don't even understand how this works.
In a public health guidance letter, the TEA said enforcement was being dropped because of ongoing court challenges to the ban.
So the Texas Supreme Court weighed in on this.
You have Ken Paxton saying that he's gonna fight for us.
It says in the article that He has said that he would sue any entity that does not comply with the emergency order, but no such lawsuit has been filed.
Particularly personal to me because I moved here from California, thought I was moving to a free state, thought my kids could go back to school, be mask free.
And then they dropped this on us the day before school, the requirement.
And so it seems like it's only gonna get worse.
We wanna get to more COVID news if we can after the break.
But we do need to get our brakes in, so I will see you on the other side.
unidentified
You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watching live right now at Band.Video.
kristi leigh
Welcome back.
I'm Christy Lee.
I'm guest hosting for Harrison Smith today, former news anchor, fugitive of the corporate controlled media, going off on my own, Miss Independent, I guess you could say.
We didn't get to all of the COVID news that I wanted to get to, so I'm going to dive right in to that.
I read this article from, of course, Hallmark of true and fair and balanced journalism.
You know what I'm talking about, CNN.
Of course, I'm kidding.
So CNN has this article, parents pull kids from school as district buck CDC guidance and board member spreads.
Misinformation, they love that word, rarely gets sourced how they came up with it.
I guess it's misinformation, according to CNN.
And then in the first sentence, it's the third week of school in Cobb County, Georgia.
Many parents livid with the district's lax COVID-19 protocols.
And here we go.
We love adjectives all of a sudden in news.
unidentified
Dangerous misinformation.
kristi leigh
So that's going on.
The whole article is talking about how parents are responding and taking their children out of school because they're not being, they're not enforcing enough.
They're not chaining the kids hands down and handcuffing them and, and allowing them, not allowing them to touch any germs.
I mean, it's just not strict enough.
Is where this come from.
So we know there's another side to this story.
We know that there's parents that are taking their kids out of school because of the mask wearing.
But this article chooses to focus on those that it's just not strict enough.
unidentified
I want my kids whole face covered.
kristi leigh
Anyway, so going on to this article, it says parents in favor of masks plan a demonstration before the Cobb County.
Again, we're talking only about those that are for masks.
Those are the ones that are out there rallying.
Those are the ones that are being loud.
Okay, email says, oh, here's another sentence I enjoyed.
The email says, flatly and falsely, claiming masks offer zero protection against the virus.
Complaining about an email that was sent out saying that they weren't going to mandate the masks because there was a lack of evidence.
But then it says, I'm just a parent.
Here's another sentence.
I'm just a parent who wanted to say, man, swarmed by anti-mask crowd.
unidentified
Come on!
kristi leigh
These adjectives and these descriptions are ridiculous.
He was swarmed by an anti-mask crowd.
You chose that word for a reason.
Swarmed, really?
And then you read further down, Banks, a retired information technology consultant, includes long debunked Videos from doctors with questionable credentials and makes a series of egregiously false claims.
I mean, this is the way CNN writes.
They say debunked all the time.
When I would argue a lot of these cases, you could more fairly use the word unsettled, unsettled issues.
But to just flatly say something's debunked.
How many times have we heard that something was debunked and then Fauci flipped and then it wasn't.
But it was okay that we called it debunked earlier because that's what Fauci said then.
But this is what he's saying now.
Wouldn't that be just more fair, maybe less sensational if we chose to use the word unsettled more often instead of debunked?
And then to have this say doctors with questionable credentials.
How vague?
You could say that about any doctor.
You could choose to question anybody's credentials at any time.
So what does it even mean?
I mean, if they're referring to somebody like Dr. Malone, who has been targeted, banned, ridiculed, we might play some of that video a little bit later.
But if they want to talk about that, he has the receipts.
They never talk about his patents.
They never talk about that he's worked in the vaccine industry for decades, that he's been in defense of, that he actually took the vaccine.
But now he's questionable because he's not saying what they want him to.
So now we're going to question his credentials, even though you really can't question them.
And then that adjective, egregiously, egregiously false claims.
I mean, has news always been like this?
Traditional news, just throwing in these adjectives everywhere.
So that was frustrating to read.
Moving on.
If you live in a state with a low vaccination rate, you're four times more likely to be hospitalized and more than five times more likely to die.
Here's another CNN article.
Of course, every headline is to freak you out and make you think you're about to die.
And it's all because of the unvaccinated.
They're spreading it everywhere.
Never mind that those that are vaccinated can spread it just as easily.
And there's multiple sources for that.
But we're We're gonna blame it on the unvaxxed.
They're gonna make us die.
But what's interesting in this article is this is the 10 states with the lowest vaccination rates are Alabama, Mississippi, Wyoming, Idaho, Louisiana, Arkansas, West Virginia, Georgia, Tennessee, and North Dakota.
What's interesting is as much as CNN, MSNBC, and the other news stations continually attack states like Florida, like Texas, that have tried to ban mask mandates.
They're interestingly not even in the 10 states with the lowest vaccination rates.
Interesting.
Okay.
Okay, CNN.
We see what you're doing.
Wait, I did want to read about this too.
On Wednesday, US Surgeon General announced a plan to allow booster shots to any American adult 18 or older who had already received two doses of either Pfizer, BioNTech or Moderna mRNA vaccine.
So now we're going to pump you with another Another jab and this is after I know you guys have seen the video multiple times where he's saying that there's evidence that it reduces your antibodies and after the shot reduces your antibodies even more so.
I mean, if this continues to go on, I mean.
It's just crazy.
I mean, this is just common logic.
Obviously, I'm not a doctor, but if you're having doctors saying that they have evidence that the shot is reducing your antibodies and then you're going to do more booster shots.
I mean, are we getting to a point that we're just not going to be able to fight off a common cold because we took a vaccination that was lowering our antibodies?
It's crazy.
Miami-Dade County school issues mask mandate defying DeSantis order.
Well, it's nice to have Governor Abbott and DeSantis trying to outlaw, I guess, mask mandates.
I mean, what good is it doing?
They're all defying anyways.
But it does say parents can opt their child out with a doctor's note.
Can I trust my doctor to opt my child out?
I mean, is the doctor going to face repercussions if he does give me a note to opt my child out of a mask?
Also in the news, those anti-COVID plastic barriers probably don't help and make things worse.
unidentified
So we saw those barriers go up at restaurants and banks and everything else.
kristi leigh
And now we're hearing that those anti-COVID plastic barriers probably aren't even working.
So there's that.
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unidentified
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
Christy Lee here, guest hosting in place of Carson Smith today.
I wanted to come back and give my husband a shout out.
We're newlyweds.
We've only been married like two months, but he is a part of what makes This possible for me to have gone independent.
And I wanted to share a Facebook post that I just had to redact.
So let's clean up that language, Mr.
Some of the foul language in it.
But it was funny.
Let's can we play the video that he would comment on and then I'll read his comments.
unidentified
This is great.
It's lethal.
It's a bit like the beef Notorious B.I.G.
used to rap about when he said, beef is when your mom's ain't safe up in the streets.
Beef is when I see you, guaranteed to be in ICU.
Well, when COVID sees you, you can end up in ICU.
Maybe not at the same rate as Biggie's beef, but that's the point about risk.
You don't want to test these streets and risk ending up in the ICU.
kristi leigh
Wow, I think that reading what he had to say is going to relate to how you're feeling when you read that he says patronize much.
This is blatant beep.
They can't come out and say what they want.
So they let this dude use biggie lyrics to push this pandering.
What he's trying to say is per the CDC, only 10% of black Americans have had at least one dose of the vaccine.
So instead of use the rhetoric of you're selfish, anti-vaccine, don't trust the vaccine, or quite frankly, don't give a care.
Thank you, the piggy lyrics read in a very, I'm going to add the word, very white voice.
You can't even make this up anymore.
So that was ridiculous.
And I think that it is exactly that.
Tandering and just a different approach because they can't call you a Trump, white supremacist, conspiracy theorist person for not wanting the vaccines.
So they have to pander to you with biggie lyrics.
And this isn't the first time.
Let's play a little of that video that we saw earlier this year.
unidentified
Let's play a little bit.
So ridiculous.
I mean, this has got to be insulting, I would think, that they go to these measures.
But they know better.
kristi leigh
They remember Tuskegee.
Can we play the next video?
We've seen enough of that.
unidentified
Vax that thing up or whatever that is.
kristi leigh
Here we go.
unidentified
You have to understand, I'm a hustler.
I'm a legit entrepreneur.
I sell things.
I come in contact with people all the time.
I have to stay safe.
I didn't have a choice but to trust the vaccine.
If you live the type of lifestyle that I live, you out here in these streets and you hustling, an entrepreneur like me, why not do it safely?
So I want everybody to take this seriously.
Take a shot at staying healthy.
Get the vaccine.
I'm a hustler and I can't hustle unless I get the jab, you know?
kristi leigh
You heard?
unidentified
You dig?
kristi leigh
This is so ridiculous.
So let's just, I wanted to talk about taking a stand and I have a long video that you can find on band.video under my page KLTV.
Well, it's Christy Lee TV on band video if you want to find it, but let's just close out this segment However long we get in it's a long video.
You can see the whole thing later But of dr. Malone responding to the Atlantic hit piece and and he can he continues to take a stand Be frustrating for you personally to read stuff something like this where there's Him attacking you, but then admitting as the article goes along that you can make a case.
unidentified
I said, you know, I've read Atlantic in the past and enjoyed it, but it just seems to have gone sideways and I don't understand why.
And he said, well, we're credible and we're going to do this.
And he said that he just wanted to do a deep, detailed dive into all the documents.
And foolish me, I believed him.
And even in our most recent correspondence, I said, I really hope that you're not going to do an attack piece.
And he responded, oh, no, no, no.
I'm not going to do an attack piece.
It's going to be fair and balanced and objective.
And this is the work product.
It's just a big bunch of contradictions.
kristi leigh
Welcome to KLTV.news.
I am happy and proud to welcome back Dr. Robert Malone.
He's a pioneer of the technology behind the COVID-19 vaccines, but we still have places contesting that you're a pioneer of the COVID-19 vaccine.
So what's that like constantly having To defend yourself.
You have the receipts.
I've seen all of your proof that you were a major contributor to the fact that these are even out.
So what is that like, constantly having to defend that?
unidentified
It distracts away from the core issues.
I mean, the issues, this isn't about me.
It shouldn't be about me.
It should be about what are the issues here and what are we going to do about them?
I'm increasingly a mouthpiece, a microphone.
For physicians and scientists all over the world that are incredibly frustrated, afraid of being targeted, afraid of being censored, afraid of character assassination like I'm taking.
But I'm a big boy, you know, I've been on social media for decades, and I guess I've grown kind of a thick skin.
And I've always been, as the Atlantic article points out, I've always been somebody who's willing to take a stand and not back down.
And I guess that's part of my brand.
And I don't apologize for it.
As Popeye once said, if you're that old, I don't think you are, I am what I am.
kristi leigh
All right, so Dr. Malone, I was just going to dive into this article.
It says Malone was riffing on a botched sentence in USA Today article, one that was later deleted, but not before being screenshotted and widely shared.
So it's like the premise of this whole article is calling you out for saying something that was misinformation, but then right there admitting that this all came from a USA Today article that screwed up.
What are your thoughts on that?
unidentified
So it's really that article, that whole premise is out of date.
The data, the USA Today quote, was an early reveal of some of the information that's coming out of Israel right now and then also out of the UK.
And the young gentleman, I think this may be one of his first articles that wrote this, he's not, you know, calling him a journalist, frankly, I don't mean to cachet, but He's new to this business, and clearly he was asked by his editors to put together an attack piece here.
He's been interviewing me and my wife and many of my colleagues for about a month and a half to two months, and this is the work product.
So what he's talking about here, I believe, is the issue about antibody-dependent enhancement.
And he goes on to I don't think he even understands what antibody-dependent enhancement is, but he refers to that the vaccines might be causing worse disease.
I've just sent him, I mean, there's a whole bunch of statements in here.
kristi leigh
So you can actually see this whole video up right now on band.video, my page there, ChristyLeeTV.
I want to take your phone calls.
I haven't gotten to talk to you all morning.
I hope I'm doing all right for you.
Hope to hear from you.
I want to talk about that question I posed earlier.
Should Christians be doing more?
How should the churches be reacting with all these mask mandates?
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unidentified
27-7-7-8-9-2-5-3-9.
You're listening to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christy Lee.
I am guest hosting today for Harrison Smith.
If you're just tuning in, I'm a former news anchor who has gone into independent journalism.
And the reason for that is I was frustrated with especially the way news handled the news.
Over the past year and a half, I saw tons of adjectives thrown into our scripts, lack of sources.
It was just Not news from both sides.
So as I was figuring out what I wanted to do in independent media, I first thought I just wanted to do news the way I was trained.
I just wanted news and journalism to be recognizable again.
News from both sides, making sure I'm giving sources, things like that.
But it's been a journey and it's been evolving and I am based in my faith.
It's very important to me.
And so as I've taken this journey, it's been, well, You're thinking of this as news like how the world and how your university taught you to do it right, but like this needs to be based for such a time as this.
Just figure out what to tell people and what to say based on wherever God is leading.
So that's kind of where I'm at now.
But it's also been a struggle a bit, too, because it's like, what is a responsibility if you're a person of faith in this climate?
I had finished reading in Titus about that you're supposed to be subject and obedient to rulers.
And this was in a time that Nero was an evil authority.
But then there's other scripture that says God has not given you a spirit of fear, but of power and love and discipline.
So what do I do with all of that?
What does God want us to do?
Should we all be in church in a bunch of masks?
So that was kind of the topic, but if you want to talk about something else, give me some feedback.
For my first time ever going prompter-free at a news desk, then we can do that as well.
So let's first go to Sapphire out of Kansas.
Hello.
unidentified
Good morning.
Oh, there you are.
kristi leigh
Okay.
I was like, you know, I'm new to all of this.
I'm like, what am I doing wrong?
Do I need to do something?
Okay, Sapphire, it's good to hear you.
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
So first, what I want to say is there is a wonderful person.
His name is Nevis.
And he is doing lives on YouTube, and he really gives some insight on, you know, things that we can do as far as getting God involved in our lives.
And in particularly yesterday, he said that the first thing that we can do, he was reading out of Matthew chapter 24, and it says, Basically, we're going into the end of time, and the one thing that God wants us to do is He wants us to pray.
And if we don't pray, And we don't do that basic commandment that he has called us to do, then why would he come in and just fix everything?
No, he wants us all to go out and to make other people aware of him and to do his work by getting Christians to do their part as well and go out and tell other people and get everybody back believing because It's crazy the amount of people that have no idea anything about God nowadays.
kristi leigh
And you said you were watching something on YouTube that helps with this?
unidentified
What's it called?
It's called Operation 180.
He said he had it pulled up and it's Saint Mises.
He does music too.
He's really beneficial.
He's the whole reason why I started living my life back with Jesus.
He really was a blessing to me.
He does songs that help with people who are suicidal and stuff like that.
Right there.
kristi leigh
So Sapphire, your biggest takeaway is that Christians should just be doing more praying.
Do you think that there's a place for being more out there or active?
unidentified
The number one thing you can do is to start in your home.
That's a good reminder.
And if you've got kids, your kids first.
Then next, you know, Your wife, your immediate family, and then of course, you know, just anywhere you go, anybody you come in contact with, you know, just it says, you know, love your enemy as well and pray for them as well.
So that's first and foremost, but I am more than willing to help contribute in any way.
I actually, I can stay on the line and give an email if you want to get in contact with me personally, and I can help with maybe getting something together with you.
kristi leigh
All right.
Awesome.
Thank you so much for the call, Sapphire.
If you want to call in and weigh in, it's 1-877-789-2539.
1-877-789-2539.
1-877-789-2539. 1-877-789-2539.
We want to go to Richard real quick.
Richard in Texas.
unidentified
this.
Thank you.
richard in texas
Hi.
So I just want to talk about the context of what Paul is talking about in referencing that you should submit to rulers and authorities.
So, you know, the issue with biblical interpretation is to interpret it in the way the author meant it.
So he was writing to people in the Roman Empire.
He was helping them to understand how do we live in Rome at peace with the Romans.
And Roman law said you have to submit to the emperor.
But in American law, the context is different because the people are the highest authority.
So, I mean, there's no way I can prove this.
Essentially, biblical exegesis would say that the context of our empire is that we are in sin if we're not standing up for the foundational laws.
The Constitution is the supreme law, and we the people are the highest authority.
So if we're violating our conscience on that, it's the same thing that if the Roman Christians Uh, violating the emperor.
So, you know, in the same way that there were certain things that they went to death for, you know, they weren't willing to the whole issue with them was, you know, throw a pinch of incense.
into the fire and say Caesar is Lord, and that was where they drew the line.
They said, no, we will not do that, and they were killed for it.
But, you know, we have a higher responsibility in this republic, and if you believe like I do that this republic was founded in a Christian tradition and with, I guess, frankly, a supernatural series of events, there's never been a nation like this in the history of the earth.
I mean, I would say Before we say obey the government, we should say, you know, our republic was founded in personal responsibility.
Am I doing all my responsibilities to uphold the Constitution, the foundational laws of our land?
And then from that place, Because that's our primary responsibility, and then everything else comes under that.
So from that place, as long as you're upholding the Constitution and not violating your conscience and biblical truth, then from that place, you can say, okay, I'll obey these laws, but not if they violate the Constitution and not if they violate biblical truth.
kristi leigh
I really like how you broke that all down because I think sometimes we read and we don't take things in context or go back to what the intended interpretation was and so I really like how you frame that into What he was talking about, where he was at, the time period, and how it applied to them, and why that might not apply to us in our current situation.
Because, like you said, we are the people.
We're supposed to be the foundational rulers and authorities of the United States.
So that's a really, really good point.
And is there anything else that you think that Christians should be doing more of, or those of faith, in standing up for our rights and freedoms?
richard in texas
Well, I mean, if you look at historically, Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Martin Niemöller were Christians, and they were alive during the rise of Hitler during Weimar Germany.
And they lamented for the rest of their lives.
Martin Niemöller is the one who wrote that famous poem, you know, first they came for the trade unionists, that poem.
kristi leigh
Yeah.
Let's finish that up on the other side of this break.
Thank you so much Richard.
Stay in the line if you want to finish that thought.
Number to call 1-877-789-2539.
Call 1-877-789-2539. 1-877-789-2539.
unidentified
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christy Lee.
I am guest hosting today.
And we were just taking some phone calls today.
The topic is how should people of faith approach all these politically divisive issues?
Should we be subservient and just kind of go with the flow and be obedient to our authority?
Or should we be standing up more and really challenging all this?
And so we were talking to Richard.
Richard, I had to kind of cut you off before the break.
So I wanted you to finish your thought about that.
richard in texas
Sure, so basically I was just bringing up Martin Niemöller and Martin Luther and how they had lamented that they hadn't done more to stop Hitler when it was possible because there comes a certain point just like Daniel in Babylon when Nebuchadnezzar was the king.
There was no undoing that.
Even the Lord told him in a vision through an angel, you're going to have to endure this judgment for a generation.
But it might not be too late in America.
You know, just like Nineveh, it says it was the most wicked city on earth, but the Lord turned it in a day.
And it's not too late if people will just stand up and they will do everything that they can legally and lawfully do to resist this thing.
Because you don't want to get to the end of your life where you don't want to be living in tyranny and look back and think that you could have done more.
And actually, I just want to thank the Infowars crew and particularly Alex Jones because they gave me the inspiration to get my life right back with God.
Because I was drinking all the time.
I was doing all this stuff.
And when you're living in sin, you have no conviction to do anything right anymore.
And I went to an inpatient rehab and I cleaned my life up and I got all the garbage out of my life.
And now I'm actually doing things and getting out there and living.
Like, we were opposing the Fort Worth mass mandate, and we won.
We were the only district in Texas that won.
And that's really the message for Christians all over, is that you plus God as a majority, if you'll pray and you'll live in righteousness, That when you do everything you can do, that allows God to come in and do everything He can do, and He can match supernatural power with human efforts.
And that's where you change society.
And historically in America, that's the only thing that ever happened.
All the best laws were written during the first and second Great Awakening, because people were doing everything they could, and they were living lives right with God.
And that invited God to intervene.
With supernatural power in an area of natural consequence.
So that's my message to everyone.
kristi leigh
Awesome.
I love that message, Richard.
Thank you so much for your phone call.
And now I want to go to Angela in Florida, who has the bold statement, as the Bible says to... Well, actually, let me read that right.
The Bible says to follow government.
So what did you have to say, Angela?
unidentified
No, the government does not, the Bible doesn't say to follow government.
I don't believe that.
I was like, I might be reading this wrong.
The only thing, you know, what I believe is the only person you take a need to is God.
You don't take a need to any other person in the world.
I wanted to give you some inspiration.
I grew up in two different ways.
My grandparents are Jewish and my mom was Christian.
So, the temple, when you go to church there, they talk about political things that are going on all over the world.
Well, in Christian church, I've noticed that they don't.
Well, I went to the Reawakening America conference here in Florida, and I met a pastor, Greg Locke, and now I watch him on the Global Vision Bible Church.
And a few Sundays ago, he talked about the mass.
We are given an immune system for us to fight against everything by God.
And Jesus is always protecting us.
There's no reason why we should have masks on to cover our beautiful faces that God gave us to show the whole world.
kristi leigh
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for that phone call, Angela, from Florida.
Now we want to go to Bruno in Florida.
We'll just keep it in Florida for now.
Bruno, you're on there.
unidentified
Yes, I am.
How are you?
Good.
kristi leigh
How are you?
unidentified
You're doing a great job, so I know it's your first time, so I just wanted to say that.
So, the reason why I called is because you asked the question about, like, should Christian leaders be, you know, more vocal about this stuff, and I totally think so.
And I heard Alex Jones saying yesterday, like, I got the fire of the Holy Spirit, and I was like, yes, Alex Jones is probably now Almost, like, not a religious leader, but in this sense, like, he's doing a better job than most of the pastors.
You know what I mean?
Because for some reason, every pastor that I know, they decided to, you know, not play a part, not really say what they think.
Most of the churches last year, they went along with the mask mandate.
My church did the same.
I'm afraid that my church is going to go back to mask mandate because the cases in Palm Beach County are rising or they say I know it's all fake the PCR test it doesn't really you know test for that but they're still going to go Uh, whatever the CDC says and whatever the CDC tells them to do, they'll probably do it again.
And I'm getting, like, very frustrated.
And I told the call screener that my daughter, she's actually going to a private Christian school here in South Florida.
And also, they've implemented the mask mandates back.
I still have an option to get a doctor's note, but I'm guessing like in a week or two, they'll even rescind the option not to mask my child.
And it's very, very frustrating.
And I told my daughter's principal, And I told her, I asked the head of the school and some principals on the conversation, I asked him, how can you teach American history from a Christian perspective, saying that our Constitution is based on the Bible or the rights that God has given to us, and then tell children they are going to be forced to wear a mask?
With all the research being done that pretty much 80% of Christians now know that the masks don't really work.
So I told him, you guys are gaslighting your high school students because they can probably go online and do their own research.
You're saying that you're raising critical thinkers, but then again you tell them to do something that doesn't really work, and you're trying to force them to do something, and you're saying that you're giving them a Christian perspective of the world, of civics, of American history.
I told the principal, you're probably raising cognitive dissonance children in that school.
Because, again, how can you teach American history from a Christian perspective?
If you want to teach American history from the secular worldview, that's fine.
That's up to you.
But I am worried about those children now because how can you teach them that America was founded on biblical principles, and then you want to force them to wear a mask even though it doesn't really work?
Like a person who's afraid of the virus and they wear whatever mask they decide to, that person has a right to force you to wear a mask?
What is going on?
I asked them and they just did not have an answer for me.
They just stood there.
And both of the principals, two principals, we were outside and they were still wearing their masks.
So I was just like, there's no hope.
There is no hope.
These people, they have given up.
They are like the Pharisees from the time when Jesus came.
These people are the Pharisees because they're just following rules.
With no reason why they're following.
We can just follow whatever.
kristi leigh
Yeah, Bruno, thank you so much for your phone call.
We want to try and sneak another one in, but I'm just going to make that point that, yeah, going to a church, it's like, or these schools, you want to say, the Bible says fear not.
The Bible says do not fear.
The Bible says God has not given us the spirit of fear, so why are we worshiping with masks on our face?
It's a little bit frustrating for me.
Let's go to our number one caller following up from Richard.
unidentified
You're on the air?
Hi.
kristi leigh
From Arkansas.
What is your name?
Lori?
unidentified
Yes.
kristi leigh
From Arkansas.
unidentified
This is Lori.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you, Christy, for taking my call.
And how I feel about it absolutely lines up with what previous callers have said, and that our Constitution, we have unalienable rights, and we have rights from our Creator, God-given rights.
Man did not give us these rights.
God did.
And our number one responsibility is to our living soul.
We have to protect the life that God gave us.
So, that's, and yes, I agree with Collette, it says pray, we must keep praying, and I don't think churches should be pushing that issue.
It's kind of a, it's hypocrisy for them to say that you have to do this, or for them to even rule over us.
God is the, He's the ultimate.
We can't argue with that.
Yeah, absolutely.
We have to protect the life that He gave us.
That's the point, protect the life that He gave us, period.
kristi leigh
Yes, absolutely.
Let's see if we can sneak in.
Thank you so much for your call, Lori.
Let's see if we can sneak in one more phone call from Georgia.
Man, my eyes are bad.
Is that Shaq from Georgia?
Shaq.
unidentified
Okay.
kristi leigh
I just want to make sure I was reading that real quick.
You want to just share a prayer?
unidentified
So I listen to the American Journal pretty much every day.
So I'll make this quick.
So prayer is definitely something we can do as Christians.
And one of my prayers has been that those that are doing evil, that they're just compelled to tell the truth.
Regardless.
kristi leigh
Amen!
unidentified
Whenever they open their mouths, they are just compelled.
They can't do anything.
They can't lie.
They can't cheat.
They'll just be like, uh, yeah, but we did this.
And it happens.
I actually see some of the truth coming out.
But the other thing that I wanted to say is if we could just get one million Info Warriors to donate $10 a month.
All right, let's do it.
You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
kristi leigh
Welcome back.
unidentified
This is Christy Lee, guest hosting today for Harrison Smith.
kristi leigh
I made a stupid joke earlier.
I said, today I identify as Harrison Smith.
Yeah, I know.
I'm lame.
Alright, so we were taking phone calls before we went to break about should people of faith be doing more?
Should they be being subservient to the authorities in our government and obedient?
Or should we be standing up more?
Should we have...
Less masks in church, things like this, something that I was just kind of wrestling with myself.
We've had amazing phone calls.
I want to keep that going.
Well, I want to go to Ruth in Baltimore, Maryland.
That's where my husband is from.
And you have a story to tell about a Catholic school.
So Ruth, you're on the air.
unidentified
Yes.
Hi, Christy.
And first, I just want to say I really love InfoWars.
I'm a new person to join into this information.
And I've lived in Baltimore my whole life.
And my kids are in the Catholic school system.
And I want to point out that they are the best option for me in Maryland because they've had in-person learning this last year.
But at the same time, they're sort of ridiculous.
In a way, because if you go to CatholicReview.org, they posted their mask policy for this year and they basically say, well, we're going to look at these numbers and we're going to de-mask if they get low, but we're going into a flu season.
We're not even, it's a number that they want to say will be mask free.
So to me, it's like a joke that they're going to say that there's not going to, there's going to be a possibility.
And then another thing that's ridiculous, in my opinion, is if you go to the website and see a picture, they have these kids outside Bible study with masks on.
I'm like, it doesn't make sense.
kristi leigh
So you'd like to see your school and your Christian leaders and Catholic leaders taking more of a stand on this?
unidentified
Yeah.
And even Hogan, I mean, he, um, You know, he's not the worst governor, but at the same time, he puts everything into these numbers, and we all know the numbers are manipulated.
So, it's like, what do I do?
I mean, there's no other option to pull my kids out of school, and I harm their education.
All the men in my life are being threatened with their job if they don't get this shot, and people are just taking it because that's, like, how men are.
They're like, well, You know, it's just like they just put people in a corner.
So it's like the kids, the husbands, like, what's, you know, I don't know what else to do.
I put your stickers up, they get pulled down.
I go back and check the stickers, they get ripped off.
You know, so it's like, I think us moms need to get together, start finding who we're alike and start talking and showing these medical journals to people.
Right.
You know, I don't know.
I don't know what else to do.
kristi leigh
Yeah.
Well, just keep on fighting the fight, being brave.
We have to.
I think God is calling us to be brave right now and to just trust that he's got it and he will bless our efforts.
Thank you for your call, Ruth.
We're going to try and sneak one more in.
A plug on Privacy Pouch.
Dee from Nebraska.
unidentified
Yes.
Hello.
How are you doing this morning?
Good.
How are you?
Good, good, good.
Yeah, I'm just calling in, not specifically any topic or anything.
Just thought I'd let you know you're doing a wonderful job.
kristi leigh
Thank you.
unidentified
It's a blessing to hear you this morning.
Also, the quick plug on the Privacy Couch.
I highly recommend it.
Works very, very good.
After I leave it in for a while, I'll take it out and I know it's probably taking like a minute just to get serviced again.
So, highly recommend it to all the info warriors.
And I hope that everybody just has a blessed Friday.
Have a good weekend.
All right.
kristi leigh
Thank you, D. So yes, get your privacy pouch.
I know I have one.
Also, it can double as a timeout pouch.
Maybe you're spending too much time on your phone and you should put that thing in that pouch.
Give yourself a break.
Coming back, speaking of breaks, after the break, I am welcoming Sergio Rodriguez.
He's an activist.
He's making a difference.
He's taking a stand.
That was kind of my little theme today.
He is the founder of the 1776 Project, and we're going to ask him what he's doing, how he did this, how he keeps on going, and hopefully continue with some phone calls later on in the hour.
The board is speaking to Sergio.
That's next.
unidentified
You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch it live right now at band.video.
kristi leigh
Welcome back, this is Christi Lee.
I'm guest hosting for Harrison Smith today.
We've been taking calls about what Christians should be doing, those of faith should be doing with so much unrest, with tyranny, with attacks on our freedom, things like that.
I was admittedly having a bit of a struggle with this myself.
I'm like, well, There's some biblical evidence for being subservient and obedient and render unto Caesar what is Caesar, all those things.
But feeling much better after taking some of these calls today where we're hearing more from, it's important to take things in context, things in the Roman time are not as they are now in the U.S.
We are the authority, we're supposed to be.
The Constitution is supposed to be the authority.
And so it is okay to take a stand biblically.
When our authority is threatened.
So I'm feeling a little bit better about that, getting some clarity on those issues.
And also we've been talking about people taking a stand, people in the face of losing their jobs or leaving their jobs to do what's right, taking a stand.
And so I'm going to be talking with Sergio Rodriguez.
He is a proud Mexican-American immigrant with a long career in law enforcement.
In the greater Philadelphia area in 2020, he founded the 1776 Project, a grassroots organization that seeks to educate and inspire others to make a difference in their lives, their families and their communities.
And he has a He's on the Rumble channel and he's on Gab.
We were having a little bit of some audio issues in connecting with him, so we are still connecting.
Maybe we should build some time with some calls while we get that figured out.
But I did want to, we will connect with him at some point because this is part of the element is what can we do?
Well, we can do grassroots start at home efforts.
in fighting the tyranny.
So I think we're going to go ahead and take a call.
Alfano in Indiana.
Is that right?
unidentified
Hi.
How are you?
Good.
How are you?
Really good.
Listen, I've been praying for, I mean, solid for a year almost on this in tears with God.
We have gotten away from the dispensational teaching and reading of the Bible.
And we need to be looking at the King James Version.
Now, this is not about Donald Trump.
But God, as we all know, is an almighty God.
And there's two scriptures I just want to read, and then you can go from there.
It's 1 Corinthians 52.
And bear with me.
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised.
incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Now, Scripture with Scripture is dispensational reading.
Now, if you go to 1 Thessalonians, you know, they thought that they lost the rapture.
And as Christians, we're supposed to comfort each other.
And if you read 1 Thessalonians 15, And on, and I'm not going to read it, but you can pull it up and folks can read it.
But it does mention Trump there again in 16.
It says, For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with the shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump.
Now, people have to understand that Trump is what the sound of a trumpet makes.
I don't think anybody can disagree with that.
God puts these signs in front of us.
We have to have a great debate and call up the Great Tribulation Debate because I believe, I truly believe, where there's a pre-tribulation rapture and we could go before my voice ends.
All the signs are there.
We have to get back to, and this should be a big topic for us Christians, is the tribulation and the rapture.
And there's going to be another rapture, and that's at the end.
My soul is crying for the judgment seat of Christ and the marriage supper of the Lamb, because we're all going to be judged, and then we're going to come back with Christ.
Christ is going to pick us up.
We go up.
People are thinking Christ is coming down.
Do do that in correlation with the UFO crap that's going on out there.
This Earth is ours.
The space is the devil's.
We have to get away from space, folks.
That's all I have to say.
Thank you.
God bless you.
I've been praying for this subject for a long time.
kristi leigh
Oh, I'm so delighted to hear that.
It's been weighing on my heart, too.
So I appreciate your phone call, Alfonso.
Thank you so much.
And we're just going to take this opportunity to introduce our guest, and then we'll give him some more questions after the break.
But let's go ahead and bring in Sergio Rodriguez.
I said before, he's a proud Mexican-American immigrant, started, a founder of the 1776 Project in Philadelphia.
So welcome in Sergio!
unidentified
Hi, well, thank you.
It was great.
Thank you for having me.
kristi leigh
It's funny how this worked out.
Sergio actually reached out for me to speak to him and I was like, you know, I have to fill in on this show for the very first time.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I'm freaking out.
How about you come on my show first and then we'll talk about that later.
So give me some background just to get things started on how you came to this point and how you started this and what it is.
unidentified
Well, you know, as you know, 2019 was a great year, I think, for a lot of Americans.
The economy was booming.
You had so much to be happy and thankful for.
So, to me, my days were spent, you know, looking up recipes.
That was the hardest part of my life, was looking up recipes or looking up places to go climbing, because I love climbing.
I've been to some of the highest mountains.
But then 2020 hit, and that is when reality truly set in.
And there was like a massive awakening in many levels and that includes me.
So what ended up happening is early in the beginning it was very clear from my understanding and history that there was something amiss with this whole fake pandemic.
And what really broke the camel's back is when I will see children in parks and in some areas they had the parks completely closed off to the kids.
Because they were afraid that, you know, the virus may, you know, may attack them there when it was perfectly fine for them to be in a park because they're getting vitamin D, they're getting out there and getting, exchanging all different germs and viruses with other kids.
And then to see them being completely pushed away and unable to be kids, that was really difficult.
So it began to really tried to think of ways of making a difference, making a change, uh, in the community.
And so I started putting out videos, but then what happened in January the sixth, I actually was one of the people, uh, of the millions, I think it was millions of Americans that were down in the Capitol, uh, to try to protest what's taking place in November.
And we were very demoralized.
It was me and a group of other people demoralized.
For what we saw happening, and we left before the chaos started.
But it was then that we decided, you know what, we need to take this a step further and just start getting together as a community, as friends, and talk about solutions that we can have at a grassroots level.
Because one thing that we know from history is not one single politician is going to make a difference in your life.
You're not going to change anything by just voting somebody into office.
You have to, the only way to change things Absolutely.
kristi leigh
And so you started this, and what has it been like?
And you said that you came off of January 6th very demoralized.
I know many of us did.
It was just heartbreaking to see all that crumble like it did, and then the lies that came out afterwards ongoing.
So, in you starting 1776 Project, has that lifted your spirits?
And what positive changes have you been seeing already?
unidentified
Oh absolutely.
So like I told you before life was for many Americans for many of us it was just very cushy.
And 2020 really gave us the perspective that freedom like Ronald Reagan said it's only one generation away from extension and it's very precious and we have to take care of it.
And to see all the kids being a muzzle and gag for so long.
And one of the things, it always bothers me.
It used to bother me.
I tell this to people a lot.
I say, listen, think about- Wait, hold that thought.
kristi leigh
Something bothered you.
unidentified
We're going to come back to what that was that bothered you.
kristi leigh
How's that for a tease?
After we take this break, we're talking to Sergio, a proud Mexican-American immigrant, founder of 1776 Project.
unidentified
We're going to continue to talk to him after this break.
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christy Lee, guest hosting for Harrison Smith.
You're seeing it right there.
We talked about this earlier, that breaking FBI clears Alex Jones and Roger Stone of plotting the January 6th attack.
My guest today, Sergio, was just talking about that January 6th event, and Reuters had this exclusive out today that they found no evidence That the January 6th attack on the U.S.
Capitol was the result of an organized plot, and this is effectively clearing Alex Jones and Roger Stone.
So we'll have more on that, continue to have more on that throughout the day.
But we do want to get back to our guest, Sergio Rodriguez.
Well, who is Sergio Rodriguez?
He is a proud Mexican-American immigrant with a long career in law enforcement and also the founder of the 1776 Project.
And before we went to break, Sergio, you were just talking about something that bothered you.
unidentified
Yeah, so many, many things bothered me, I think.
But the biggest issue, like I said, is what we're doing to our kids.
There's a book that C.S.
Lewis once wrote, and he talked about tyranny.
He said something like, of all tyrannies, the worst kind of tyranny is the one that's perpetrated for our own good.
And the reason for that is because it's done With the approval and the consciousness of those who do it upon us.
So with that being said, there's a lot of doctors that are good.
There's a lot of teachers that are all well-meaning.
But a lot of them have been brainwashed throughout this whole fake pandemic.
And they have instituted policies at all local levels, all the way to very top levels of governments and schools and everything that's creating problems with our children psychologically.
Like you mentioned, I do work in law enforcement.
It doesn't matter where I work.
But one thing that I've noticed is that during the worst years of this lockdowns that we experienced where I work, the county had a triple increase on suicide calls.
The county had triple increase on alcohol overdoses, drug overdoses.
I mean, I saw kids, I spoke with kids that were Twelve years old talking about committing suicide because they can't see their friends.
So all of these things, you know, like Alex always says, this is now we've been pushed into an arena and now we have to fight.
And I'm not talking about physical fight, but we don't want to ever get there because we're peaceful people.
So this is why it is through information fight.
And the same thing in all levels, informational, One of the problems that we have in America, if you know who Yuri Bezbenov is, he explained how, through generations, Americans have been infiltrated by the communist ideals, communist and Marxist tenets and beliefs, and they're in academia.
They are in all levels of government.
And now we're going through a crisis that he described as one of the different levels on how communists take over the country.
And one one positive thing is that people are waking up more and more, but I always hear people, well, you know, especially some Christians, they say, I'm not going to get involved into politics and this and that.
But if it's not us, then who?
Somebody else is going to do it.
You're just going to expect if every person said, well, somebody else will do it, then who is it going to do it?
There he is.
Yeah.
Your investment off.
He explained on how the through demoralization by three generations and then This civilization and then the crisis.
I think we're seeing the crisis which is he said takes about six months to maybe a couple of years for it for that to take place.
And then finally normalization where we normalize everything perpetually.
So all of those things bother me especially but especially with the kids that seeing how they are being tortured in the chambers of education.
kristi leigh
I think that's the biggest thing.
But like you said, is the normalization.
I mean, because many people are like, well, if I just comply for a little bit longer than things can finally go back to normal.
And it's just people don't realize that this is part of a plan that there's tons of people that have talked about this in history that is.
No, it doesn't work like that.
If you comply just for a little bit, then it's going to go away.
If you comply just for a little bit, then you're going to be complying forever and you're going to be conforming for the rest of your time.
So I think that's a really interesting point that you laid out.
Also, you are the founder of 1776 Project and you're doing this grassroots efforts, which I hope encourages many more people to do that and make a difference.
But I did want your perspective as a law enforcement officer, the changes that you've seen, the division that we've seen, the media stir up.
Do you have any stories or experiences that really changed your perspective on anything?
unidentified
Well, to be perfectly honest, I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia, so thankfully we have—the majority of people are incredible.
They're very supportive of law enforcement.
So it is the cities that have really, really suffered the worst of the politicians and corruption.
And that was just not too long ago, for our group, we were reading a letter.
A letter that was sent from Thomas Jefferson to Madison, and he sent it when he was in France.
This was during the Federalist Papers and they were being written.
And he warned that if America ever departed from being a predominantly agricultural nation, we would go into tyranny.
But as long as we kept As an agricultural nation, we will endure freedom and liberties for centuries.
And I think what he explained, what he meant is that when he actually wrote, when people began living close to one another and pile on top of each other, it is easier to control them and corruption is born.
So thankfully, in the suburbs, still by and large, law enforcement are appreciated for what we do.
kristi leigh
And then the other aspect of you, you said you're a proud Mexican-American immigrant.
What perspective does that give you with what's happening at our borders?
unidentified
Well, you know, that's a very, there's a lot to be said on that.
We can unpack that for many hours.
But one of the things is that people don't realize that two things.
Mexico, it is a crime, a serious crime for you to cross the border from other countries.
And number two, they have very strict voter ID laws.
So what I think is happening here, the It is after what's happening is they are trying to bring people from other countries, not just Mexico, but essentially they're trying to change the demographics.
And through vulcanization, they're essentially breaking this country and they're making many countries within a country.
And it's all being done on purpose.
The problem, one of the biggest problems that I saw when I first came to America was that There is no push for those new immigrants to learn history and appreciate America for the great founding principles that we have.
Instead, there is that division, this whole idea of, oh, let's make, you know, two different languages or Spanish and English for everything.
Well, it forces people not to want to think for themselves and better themselves and integrate themselves into society.
And that creates division, and I think that's one of the biggest problems, because if you have no one common language, it's hard for you to connect to the other people, the other cultures.
One of the things that was fortunate is that I moved initially into Washington State, and there was only a couple hundred people in the town, and that was it.
And I was the only person that spoke Spanish, so it was a sink or swim for me.
And I'm so thankful that that happened.
kristi leigh
Awesome.
Sergio, you've been fascinating to talk to.
I hope that you serve as an inspiration for others that got to listen to this today to start their own grassroots efforts.
I hope we get to talk to you again.
Keep us updated.
And in the meantime, if you caught him, you can follow him on Rumble.
You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
on Gab, the 1776 Project.
He is working full-time in law enforcement and still managing to be a founder of the 1776 Project, educating others and inspiring others.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
You're watching The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
Watch live right now at band.video.
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christine Lee.
I'm guest hosting for Harrison Smith today on the American Journal.
We started out the show today with breaking news that the FBI finds scant evidence that the January 6 attack on the U.S.
Capitol It's great to be with you this morning.
to overturn the presidential election results.
So what does that mean?
You see it right there, breaking, FBI clearing, Alex Jones and Roger Stone of plotting the January 6th attack.
And coincidentally, we do have Roger Stone now on the line.
Welcome into the show, Roger.
roger stone
Great to be with you this morning.
It's a great day, and this is great news to wake up to, obviously.
kristi leigh
Yeah, break down how that happened.
Did you get a call this morning?
roger stone
I got a call telling me that there was a Reuters story, Reuters, a quite credible national news organization, a step above some of the other corporate outlets, in which a senior FBI official is quoted as saying that they have found no evidence whatsoever that either Roger Stone or Alex Jones were involved in any way in coordinating the so-called insurrection on January 6th.
I instructed my lawyers this morning to begin the defamation lawsuit against ABC News.
I'm suing the president of ABC News, several reporters there, both personally and in their capacity as ABC News officials, because repeated stories essentially claiming that both Alex Jones and I were involved in illegal activity are defamatory.
So I'm suing ABC News for $25 million.
And I can't wait to have their reporters under oath in a courtroom.
kristi leigh
What a journey this has been, and you're no stranger to being treated poorly by these agencies and by the news stations.
So with that in mind, even though you've maintained your innocence from anything from the beginning, with that in mind, is there always a worry that they're going to in some way try and implicate you or frame you or any of that feeling?
roger stone
Sure, because we've seen this before.
They fabricated the charges against me, claiming that I lied to Congress under oath.
Robert Mueller's own secret, long-redacted report, which is only released by court order on November 3rd, 2020, Election Day.
By the way, the busiest media day of the year.
Funny time for the DOJ to put out a press release at midnight, don't you think?
But they admitted there was never any factual evidence tying me to Russian collusion.
WikiLeaks collaboration or John Podesta's emails.
So my wife and I, my family, we were put through hell.
We were vilified, smeared, gagged, lynched, censored, canceled, deplatformed, and nearly bankrupted over completely fabricated charges.
So you always have in the back of your mind the fear that they might try to frame you.
But I can speak for myself, and I believe this is also true of Alex Jones.
We know nothing whatsoever about the illegal activities at the Capitol.
We don't countenance them.
We both denounced them as soon as we heard about them.
They were counterproductive to everything politically we were trying to achieve.
We believe in working within the democratic system, as corrupted as it may be.
I want to win elections.
That's how we change things.
And I want fair, transparent, honest elections to make sure that that can happen.
In the meantime, as you know, this has been a long, debilitating fight.
I lost many economic opportunities in late January.
After the New York Times and the Washington Post and ABC News and others implied heavily that I was somehow involved in the activities of January 6th.
Those economic losses will be added to my lawsuits.
I'm taking ABC News down.
You can bet on it.
kristi leigh
So tell me more about this.
You say you've already talked to your lawyers and have you gotten any feedback on how positive the case?
roger stone
We feel we have a very strong case, but it doesn't matter because I want to make them spend money.
I want to put them on the stand and expose them as liars.
It's not about the money.
It's about demonstrating what they are.
Alexandria Dukakis, who claims to be a reporter, she's not a reporter.
She's a clout chaser, she's a backstabber, and she's guilty of guilt by association as a tactic.
I'm sorry, she needs to get a job at a McDonald's.
She should not be in journalism because she's not capable of telling the truth.
kristi leigh
Or, I mean, just fundamentally giving both sides, right?
Have you had an opportunity to give your side before they started just saying you're involved?
roger stone
I was actually never contacted by ABC News in which they ran their multiple guilt by association stories.
I have photos of Ali Dukakis taken with some very unsavory characters.
Does that mean she's responsible for their activities?
Of course not.
I mean, like Alex Jones, I've probably posed for, I don't know, thousands of selfies in the last two years from patriots, from people who approach you in an airport or a restaurant in public, and I almost never say no unless you're openly hostile.
But to then take that picture and say, well, Roger Stone is responsible for anything this person he's pictured with has done past, present, or future, that's a smear.
So I celebrate this good news.
It just proves what Alex Jones and I have said repeatedly, that the corporate news media lies and that we had nothing to do with the activities of January 6th.
kristi leigh
And I gotta imagine this has got to be a sigh of relief, a feeling of vindication, I would imagine.
And so are you just pumped and ready to come after her and hold them accountable?
roger stone
Yeah, I'm pretty excited.
This is the exoneration I was looking for.
Folks recognized that the Mueller investigation was debilitating.
I mean, we lost our home, our savings, most of our insurance, my car.
Because I was gagged for 18 months.
I literally couldn't work.
I had no income.
This is how the deep state tries to pressure you into pleading guilty to things you have nothing to do with.
Folks who want to help us can go to MyPillow and use stone code, the pass code stone.
I should say the promo code stone.
We need the help, unfortunately.
As you know, my wife is struggling with stage four cancer.
A surprise that comes out of nowhere.
These alternative cancer treatments like THC and CBD in a concentrated form or vitamin, mega vitamin infusions that are done intravenously of vitamins B, C, pardon me, C, D, B17.
These therapies are very effective but they're very expensive.
Folks can go to StoneFamilyFund.com StoneFamilyFund.com If they want to help my beautiful, sweet, loyal wife who stood by me like a rock through the entire ordeal in which I was struggling for my freedom and justice with Robert Mueller.
kristi leigh
Obviously these things are beyond stressful and caused strain and we know the relationship between stress, strain, financial strain, all of these things with health.
Do you feel like some of these events and some of these accusations contributed to her with her cancer?
roger stone
Well, that's what the doctors say.
The doctors say stress is an absolute key triggering factor.
For two years, not knowing whether your husband is going to be sent to prison based on completely fabricated charges, which you know he's not guilty, but not knowing where you're going to live, not knowing, you know, how you're going to eat.
Yeah, that's very, very stressful.
So yeah, I do hold, I do hold Special Counsel Robert Mueller responsible, and Aaron Zielinski, the prosecutor in my case, who is guilty of multiple examples of prosecutorial misconduct.
I'd file a complaint with the Biden Justice Department, but I recognize it is a waste of time because they always cover each other in their criminality.
Look, for example, at the indictment of Tom Barrack, one of the president's closest friends, chairman of his inaugural committee, co-chairman of his campaign finance committee.
Barrack is accused of lobbying on behalf of UAE without registering.
They arrested him in his office in L.A., dragged him out in handcuffs, kept him in jail for three days.
When are they prosecuting Tony Podesta?
He lobbied for the Ukrainians and never registered, has never been charged.
kristi leigh
Roger, are you able to stay on for one more segment?
Yes, I think I can do that.
unidentified
Okay, great.
kristi leigh
Because we have to go to break, but I wanted you to be able to finish your thought and be able to wrap up with you.
So thank you.
We're talking to Roger Stone.
We're going to have him back on after this break.
Reacting to the news of vindication from the FBI.
latest news, no evidence that he was involved in the Capitol attack.
unidentified
Welcome back.
kristi leigh
This is Christy Lee.
I'm guest hosting the American Journal today.
And we have had breaking news today that the FBI has cleared Alex Jones and Roger Stone of plotting the January 6th attack that is coming from a Reuters exclusive, some vindication.
We have Roger Stone on the line right now.
He may have to jet because he's literally in between travel right now, but we're going to talk to him as long as we can.
Roger, you're on the line.
roger stone
Yes, indeed.
It's always great to be on InfoWars.
One thing I should say is how grateful my wife and I are to the vast audience of InfoWarriors.
You sustained us with your prayers and your dollars through an epic two-year fight in which I was literally fighting for my life because the sentence sent to me at 68 years old with a history of asthma to a COVID-19 infested prison in Georgia, far from where I live, was a death sentence.
They needed to silence me because if I ever appealed my conviction, the judge and the prosecutors and the jurors would all have been exposed as corrupt.
They couldn't afford that.
So I escaped a death sentence.
I mean, Robert Mueller and Adam Schiff set a very clever, deadly snare for me.
And only by the grace of God, and through the power of prayer, and some very good lawyering, did I survive this attempt to destroy me.
Like Alex Jones, I'm a target.
Because you see, Alex and I, and a handful of others, we stand up and speak out against the conventional wisdom.
We call the deep state out on their BS.
We've been all over Anthony Fauci, a lying criminal, who ultimately must be prosecuted for the mass murders that I think he's ultimately responsible for.
But on this specific news today, we are gratified and pleased that we have been cleared, and it is a day for celebration.
Tomorrow is a day we're holding people accountable because both of us were smeared by multiple fake news organizations who must be called to account.
I'm going to bolt from my gate here.
I'm flying to Grand Rapids, Michigan, where I'm speaking this weekend to a gathering of patriots.
If you're in the Grand Rapids area, I would love to see you there.
But thank you for having me this morning.
God bless Alex Jones.
I know he's celebrating today as I am.
God bless America and God bless him for wars.
kristi leigh
All right.
Thank you so much for gracing us with your time, Roger, and get on your way.
He was just reviewing his plans after hearing this new information that the FBI has cleared Alex Jones and Roger Stone of any involvement in the plot on January Sixth, huge news today.
Wonder how much the mainstream news will actually bother covering this.
This came out of Reuters as an exclusive.
It is interesting that in one of the paragraphs it says, Stone, a veteran Republican operative and self-described dirty trickster and Jones, founder of a conspiracy-driven radio show and webcast.
It's interesting that this article is about how basically they've been exonerated, vindicated But they still, in the first four paragraphs, need to make sure they use those adjectives, even though it says self-described Dirty Trickster as describing him.
How necessary is that in an article about they're found to have no involvement in the January 6 article?
So just more of the same when it comes to traditional media and your ability to Not trusted.
He also did announce in this interview in the last segment that he is planning on suing multiple news organizations that took this narrative and ran with it before there was any evidence.
So he's planning big lawsuits against ABC, he mentioned, and others.
But at the same time, surrendering to the fact that there's probably no hope for anyone else to be held accountable.
So there's also that.
I don't know if we have any time to wrap up the show with some more phone calls.
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unidentified
Yeah, getting back to your subject earlier, Christians are way too timid and have taken themselves out of the public arena.
And I think what you're doing is fantastic, and you shouldn't doubt, you know, what it is you're doing.
And to quote Scripture, but Peter and John answered and said unto them, you know, in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than God judge you.
For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.
And so Christians need to have more gumption because it's Christians that have talked me out of positions in journalism and stuff.
And I regret listening to those people.
If God's called you to do this, go for it, girl.
kristi leigh
I appreciate that.
And you talking about that Christians have to have more gumption.
It's interesting that you said that instantly.
I got this picture in my mind of Jesus when he was upset what they were doing at the temple and on the stairs and just anger and throwing and.
We all know that story, throwing the money changers aside and the tables over.
And so there is such a thing as righteous anger.
Is the time to have righteous anger right now when we see our freedoms being threatened, our kids' faces being covered halfway up?
The truth not coming out, people being censored, is this the time to have righteous anger?
Something I admit I have had kind of wrestled with and sometimes I think we can get so caught up in our mind about wanting to be pleasing to God that we get in kind of almost this paralysis.
But I wanted to hear from others today on this and get some confirmation that yes, we're doing the right thing, that the time is now to fight.
So we do want to get to another call.
Let's hear from Matt in New York.
Matt in New York, is he available?
bs assassin in new york
Yeah, yeah.
kristi leigh
You're on the air, okay.
bs assassin in new york
All right.
Yeah, we need to treat this as such.
This is a crime scene, right?
This is the biggest crime perpetrated on humanity.
We need to go to each congressman, get sworn affidavits for them, and see what exactly did you predicate the shutting down of our society on?
Was it hearsay from AOC?
Was it a computer-generated image from Pfizer?
What exactly did you, did you, Mr. Congressman, shut down All this from, you know what I mean?
We need to get sworn affidavits from each one of these scumbags.
kristi leigh
Absolutely, that's one way to go about it.
Whatever it is that we go about, this is the time.
Such a time as this is time to stand, time to have these grassroots efforts like Sergio we talked to earlier that started the 1776 Project.
It's time to do what we can starting from our circle, starting in our home, talking to our children, telling them to be brave.
This is a position that I just got put in because I didn't think my kids were going to have to wear masks and then suddenly the night before school, the school said that they were going to require them.
But I was able to find an opt-out form and send them.
Hard position to be put in as a parent to have to tell your kids, like, you might be the only one not wearing a mask.
You might be ostracized.
You might be bullied.
But this is something that we have to learn young.
We have to stand up for what's right.
We have to stand up for our beliefs.
And we certainly need to stand up for common sense that wearing a dirty mask for hours a day on a young child's face is not healthy.
Let's see if we can sneak in one more phone call.
Johnny from Arkansas.
Johnny, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, can you hear me?
kristi leigh
Yeah, I can hear you.
unidentified
Okay.
kristi leigh
You only got about a minute, though, so make it fast.
unidentified
I'll try to do this really quick.
Somebody called in about the pre-rapture, and that comes from a Mormon by the name of McDonald in 1830.
It is a false teaching.
If you'll look in chapter 24 of Matthew, also in chapter 13, of Mark in chapter 24, 29 through 31.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give up her light and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of heaven shall be All right, thank you, Johnny, for that input.
kristi leigh
I think the important aspect here is that we unite and that we don't get caught up in all of the details.
We do need to stand for truth, but we do need to unite and most specifically stand up for our children.
Be the voice for the voiceless, especially for them.
I thank you so much for joining me, my first ever time guest hosting on The American Journal, free of a prompter.
I'm going to do it again on Monday.
We'll take your calls then.
Thanks for joining us today.
alex jones
Kim in Las Vegas.
Kim, you're on the Alex Jones Show.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
Thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Thank you.
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