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You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host Harrison Smith. | |
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| Those scratching their heads over Congress and Joe Biden giving themselves yet another paid holiday over the largely unknown Texas tradition known as Juneteenth deserve an explanation. | ||
| Juneteenth is celebrated by black Americans as a day of independence, commemorating the day when on June 19, 1865, two years after the Emancipation Proclamation, Union General Gordon Granger, outfitted with 20,000 troops, Road to Galveston, Texas and read from Order No. | ||
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| The nightmare of slavery that had been a highly contentious issue since the Revolutionary War and led to 620,000 Americans dying during the Civil War was finally over. | ||
| Joe Biden doesn't care to mention that his state of Delaware continued slavery for six more months After the events on Juneteenth, it had taken nearly three years to free slaves in Delaware after the Emancipation Proclamation finally morphed into the 13th Amendment. | ||
| They're gonna put y'all back in chains. | ||
| Unfortunately, the cruel practice of dominance over your fellow human being continues today in the guise of self-righteous guilt by the Act Blue George Soros-fueled corporatocracy inhabiting our government. | ||
| This is a day of profound, in my view, profound weight and profound power. | ||
| A day in which we remember the moral stain, the terrible toll that slavery took on the country and continues to take. | ||
| What I've long called America's original sin. | ||
| Enslaving modern generations with the chains of critical race theory as a political weapon to divide and conquer. | ||
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Whether it's trying to fight against teaching basic history around racism and the role of racism in U.S. | |
| history to, you know, there's a direct through line from that to denying Juneteenth. | ||
| We've never had a serious solutions-oriented conversation about restitution to enslaved people or to their descendants. | ||
| We've never passed legislation at the national level to so much as explore repairing the harm done by America's original sin. | ||
| I am proud to stand with fellow mayors organized for reparations and equity. | ||
| Make this movement a reckoning. | ||
| For the African-American community in Sacramento, it's impossible to address the core at the heart of this issue without addressing our original sin as a country. | ||
| That runs through so much of the work that we do in Durham, and that mission is to take on here in the heart of the South the devastating legacy of racism, our great national sin, And the devastating legacy of slavery, our great regional sin. | ||
| While our most sacred tradition of celebrating our Independence Day on July 4th faces a well-organized cancel culture, where, for example, in Evanston, Illinois, the Juneteenth parade and a gay pride parade go on as planned, while the Fourth of July parade and fireworks are canceled. | ||
| While racist Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot has declared racism a public health emergency and has diverted $10 million in coronavirus funds to boost equity. | ||
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The consequences of gun violence, if you look at the root causes, you can trace a lot of that to racism, systemic poverty, all those other consequences. | |
| So naming it And making it an official declaration of the city gives us the opportunity to have a conversation on the table and start addressing the root causes. | ||
| As shots increasingly ring out annually during Juneteenth celebrations. | ||
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There are literally a dozen or so locations. | |
| As Ruben pans, you can see on this side of the street, these are shell casings. | ||
| On the other side of the street, shell casings. | ||
| Police have crime scene investigators have a lot of work. | ||
| Actually, some of them are over there processing another area. | ||
| All of this after what was to be a celebration, a Juneteenth celebration. | ||
| Chaos from every direction. | ||
| We were out trying to celebrate Juneteenth and I think it just got reckless. | ||
| Police say a man was killed and four other people were injured when multiple shooters fired at a large crowd around 4 a.m. | ||
| The sounds of gunfire caused panic and hundreds of people to run away as seen in this surveillance video. | ||
| Neighbors say thousands of people came to Lakeshore to party, many of them celebrating Juneteenth. | ||
| and the Lori Lightfoot scourge of racism. | ||
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You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| Watch it live right now at Band.Video. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| It's AmericanJournal, InfoWars.com, Band.Video. | ||
| The third hour has begun. | ||
| Sitting to my right is Jeremy Brown. | ||
| If you are an avid InfoWars fan, you probably recognize him because I actually interviewed him, I believe on The War Room it was, because I think it was before we had American Journal, back when Well, you first sort of broke the story. | ||
| You blew the whistle on the fact that the FBI came to you and asked you to help them in infiltrating Patriot groups back, I believe, in October of 2020. | ||
| Is that about right? | ||
| Actually, they contacted me in December of 2020. | ||
| OK, so just before the January 6th event. | ||
| And I remember when we interviewed you back then, you were like in hiding. | ||
| You were like staying at a friend's house. | ||
| You were sort of moving around. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I was staying with a friend's house somewhere in an undisclosed location in Florida, but now I'm at an undisclosed location in Texas. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we're very glad you're here. | ||
| I'll read your bio here to elucidate the people. | ||
| Jeremy Brown is a proud father, former small business owner, a decorated U.S. | ||
| Army Special Forces combat veteran who served over 20 years in the U.S. | ||
| military. | ||
| Jeremy is an American first patriot who has challenged the Democratic establishment in Florida when he ran for U.S. | ||
| Congress in 2020. | ||
| To this day, he still fights for the promises of our forefathers' life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | ||
| Well, all of these are at threat right now, Mr. Brown. | ||
| Can you tell me what your experience has been since coming out with You know, this revelation that you were sort of pursued by the FBI in an attempt to get you to infiltrate Patriot groups. | ||
| And now that this is sort of coming out now that the FBI may have been more involved in January 6th than we thought previously, has anything else happened recently? | ||
| Well, really, it hasn't, Harrison. | ||
| And I will tell you that really the story was never really picked up by the mainstream media. | ||
| I know that Jim Hoff at the Gateway Pundit, who's doing awesome work-- - As always, yeah. - Picked up on it, and that really brought it to the forefront within the alternative media, the independent media, and ended up doing about 14 different interviews on various different platforms, including yours. | ||
| And it was American Journal. | ||
| - Oh, it was, okay, all right. | ||
| Seems so long ago, man, these six months of-- - But you know, there's basically two ways that the government deals with people like me. | ||
| They either help them to coordinate their immediate suicide, or they ignore them into oblivion. | ||
| And I think the second, and least dangerous for me, is what we're seeing now. | ||
| But now recently, I guess, through just an independent person emailed me and said, hey, I noticed that your story is not getting any more traction. | ||
| I'm going to email Jim Hoff and then literally within hours he had reposted the story and it kind of coordinated with the Revolver article and the Tucker Carlson and it really has, you know, re-energized interest in the story. | ||
| But I would like to just say to Brandon Gray from justanotherchannel.com, congratulations, you broke the story on March 5th. | ||
| On Band.Video and JustAnotherChannel.com and, you know, here we are. | ||
| Yeah, and so let's sort of go over the story quickly again just to remind everybody exactly what happened. | ||
| Can you tell us what your experience was? | ||
| Because, again, the important part about you coming out and exposing this is you're probably not the only one. | ||
| This probably happened hundreds, maybe thousands of times across the country, the FBI going and trying to recruit people. | ||
| Some people probably said yes, some people probably said no. | ||
| You, as far as I know, are the only one that actually You know, just telling people what's going on. | ||
| So, just quickly again, can you remind people what exactly happened to you? | ||
| Yeah, so after the election of November 3rd, I basically reached out to the Oath Keepers to join because, you know, the primary mission of Special Forces, the Army Green Berets, is unconventional warfare. | ||
| Insurgency, counterinsurgency. | ||
| And, you know, we've been seeing what's been going on in America for years. | ||
| And I actually called into the war room a few months ago, even before this, and talked to Owen about the insurgency spectrum and how this is planned. | ||
| I mean, this is a 50, 100 year plan, right? | ||
| And so after seeing the election being stolen on the 3rd, I knew that now was the time to, you know, start my own link-up process with organizations like the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys or 3%ers. | ||
| Really, you know, I talked to a couple different people that are in, you know, one or more of these organizations. | ||
| And so that's really what got the ball started. | ||
| I believe that their communication was totally compromised after the Unicorn Riot release of their GoToMeeting chats. | ||
| And I think that is where the FBI likely tied me to Oath Keepers. | ||
| And then December 4th, so I joined Oath Keepers November 9th. | ||
| December 4th is when we have the agents show up at our door. | ||
| And the 9th is when I actually scheduled to sit down and record the meeting. | ||
| You know, you're right. | ||
| Other people, this has happened to other people. | ||
| The difference is because I have the emails. | ||
| People email me, hey, this happened to me. | ||
| I mean, I have another Army Green Beret that told me that he found a GPS tracker on his vehicle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I mean, this is... | ||
| And my warning to the American people is that this isn't just like something that just happened, right? | ||
| This has been going on for months, years, decades, a half century, a century, right? | ||
| And they need to be aware that the people in control of our government are not in favor of American sovereignty, especially your individual sovereignty. | ||
| And so people are reaching out to me. | ||
| They're telling me their stories, not only people that were there in January 6th, but other people that were contacted before, after. | ||
| And people are scared. | ||
| The average American is scared because they're seeing now what guys like my skill set have known for years and have seen in other countries all around the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's disturbing. | ||
| Well, I want to revisit that scene in other countries around the world just so we can talk about how this has happened in the past before and what lessons we can learn from that. | ||
| So this happened on January 9th, you said, right? | ||
| Or I'm sorry, December 9th. | ||
| December 9th is when we actually recorded the meeting. | ||
| December 9th. | ||
| And so it was almost a month before January 6th. | ||
| Do you think that that was specifically in preparation for January 6th? | ||
| You know, and I get asked this question a lot. | ||
| Honestly, I don't because the operational timeline of setting up that type of thing. | ||
| I mean, even if I was in Iraq or Afghanistan and my Intel cell is setting up a network. | ||
| I mean, these things take Easily months, but in most cases, years. | ||
| What I think is what was likely to happen is they knew January 6th was going to happen, and this was even before Trump had tweeted about January 6th, right? | ||
| He didn't do that until- But a couple stopped the steel caravans had already gone. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, there had been a couple of protests, and so they actually mentioned, if you go and listen to the full video, they mentioned things happening in January, which of course nobody even knew about January at that point. | ||
| I think it was probably something more along the lines of having someone in there after the fact that can then provide, you know, basically like a bomb damage, a BDA, right? | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| Are they on to us? | ||
| Or things like that. | ||
| Really, that's how, you know, human intelligence works, right? | ||
| You have five guys in a room and four of them are assets for somebody and they're all reporting back on each other, right? | ||
| I think it's something like that, or even more diabolic, or worse, it could have been a follow-on, which I believe is coming. | ||
| I believe this narrative is painting a picture to turn the American people against organizations such as the Oath Keepers. | ||
| But there is a bunch of them, and I'm not gonna name them 'cause I don't wanna help out the enemy, but there's a bunch of organizations out there, And I think the intent is to demonize them so that when the next, you know, January 6th, you know, false flag, if you want to call it that happens, the picture's already been painted. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Now do I know that? | ||
| I don't know that, but you know, like Rush Limbaugh says, wisdom guided by experience. | ||
| Right, right, and it makes sense because It's the same thing that we're dealing with. | ||
| I sort of talk about this a lot, like I was arguing with a friend of mine about January 6th and he wasn't even, we weren't even arguing about what happened that day. | ||
| He was like, well, this is what Donald Trump does. | ||
| You know, he tells his people to cause violence. | ||
| So, you know, he had had that planted in his mindset from back in 2016 during the campaign. | ||
| Trump calls for violence. | ||
| Trump calls for violence. | ||
| You know, so that's what's been in his mind. | ||
| And so it's like, I'm not just arguing about January 6th. | ||
| I'm trying to undo four years of indoctrination, laying the groundwork for this lie. | ||
| So I think you're exactly right that that's what's happening now is they're telling us these groups are domestic terrorists. | ||
| These groups are dangerous. | ||
| These groups are dangerous. | ||
| So if they choose to pull a false flag or if they choose to, you know, round up everybody, the American people already have that. | ||
| That seed of awareness planted in their head. | ||
| I think you're exactly right. | ||
| And that's the key word to use. | ||
| Planted. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It is planted. | ||
| That is the power of propaganda. | ||
| It's why it is the most dangerous and deadly weapon in any military arsenal. | ||
| And having it at the industrial corporate level. | ||
| Like we do here. | ||
| We're completely controlled here. | ||
| We'll be right back with Jeremy Brown to discuss what comes next. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| Back on American Journal with Jeremy Brown. | ||
| Green beret. | ||
| I said former green beret earlier. | ||
| That's not appropriate, is it? | ||
| Once you're a green beret, you're always a green beret, aren't you? | ||
| Well, most of us just say, well, green beret is the hat we wear. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It stands for something, though, doesn't it? | ||
| I mean, when we first interviewed you, I remember I kind of I kind of caused some trouble because I played the Green Beret song, and you were like, what the heck man, I'm supposed to stand up during this song. | ||
| Yeah, and I had my stelter suit on, meaning I had like athletic pants on underneath. | ||
| Yeah, you couldn't stand up, you'd destroy the engine. | ||
| I'm wearing actual pants today, people. | ||
| I can confirm that. | ||
| But I think it's, you know, what that song talks about is What it takes to become a Green Beret. | ||
| And so, you know, we hear these terms like Green Beret and then you think, hey, if a guy like Mark Milley could become a Green Beret, how hard could it really be? | ||
| But then you learn what you what it actually takes to become a Green Beret. | ||
| And it is very impressive. | ||
| And it sort of illustrates that you're not just some random guy sitting here. | ||
| You've been through the ringer and really shown your mettle and have sacrificed a lot for this country. | ||
| And so, you know what you're saying and talking about this stuff is. | ||
| To me, even more admirable. | ||
| Since you brought up Mark Milley, let me just say this. | ||
| I don't want to upset my officer friends out there, my 18 alphas, but there is a difference between an officer and enlisted. | ||
| So, ODA is Operational Detachment Alphas, which is where the show A-Team comes from, right? | ||
| Um, O. D. A. They're made up of almost all enlisted guys. | ||
| You have one captain, you have one warrant, and then you have a master sergeant who's the team sergeant, and then the rest are all senior enlisted guys. | ||
| Um, and so most officers only spend a couple years, maybe three, and if they are super miracle lucky, they might get a second team. | ||
| But but 99% don't. | ||
| So despite Mark Milley hanging out and collecting taxpayer funds for 40 years, I guarantee you that I have at least, if not more, three times the amount of actual ODA team time than he does. | ||
| And frankly, As far as I'm concerned, and I'm not speaking for any other Green Berets out there, but I probably am. | ||
| I personally believe he should be stripped of his Special Forces tab by Special Forces Command because he's the Joint Chief during What you cannot deny is an active military coup, an unconventional warfare operation being conducted by this nation's enemies. | ||
| And here he sits up there as a long tab wearer and allows it to happen. | ||
| And then just says ridiculous things in front of Congress about critical race theory. | ||
| Like, you know, oh, we should read. | ||
| I'm you know, I'm well read, but I don't know anything about this. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Not to steal Joe Biden's line. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then, you know, he recites the critical race theory talking points. | ||
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But yeah, he doesn't know anything about it. | |
| It's insane. | ||
| So what's going on with him? | ||
| I mean, I was trying to answer the question today. | ||
| Is he a moron? | ||
| Is he a coward? | ||
| Is he being blackmailed? | ||
| Because, you know, I went through all these other stories over the last couple of years where, you know, Nancy Pelosi literally went to him to ask him to usurp the president's, you know, job of having the nuclear codes. | ||
| I mean, that is a literal coup attempt that he was asked to participate in. | ||
| It doesn't seem to bother him that much. | ||
| He's saying apolitical. | ||
| But when it comes to this, he's so apolitical that he's 100 percent on the Democrat side and is helping them purge the military of right wingers. | ||
| So, I mean, what's going on with this guy? | ||
| Any insight into this? | ||
| Well, everybody knows that if you're in Washington, D.C., you're there because somebody wants you there and it's not the American people. | ||
| Right, very good. | ||
| And that applies to the Pentagon. | ||
| I mean, look, you know, flag officers, general officers, they're political appointees, okay? | ||
| Which means they had to please the person ahead above them, you know, the President of the United States, to get that appointment. | ||
| You know, and, and they're, they're no different than any other bureaucrat, right? | ||
| They've been, I mean, Millie's been in almost 40 years. | ||
| That's twice of, I'm retired. | ||
| That's twice as much time as I spent 20 years. | ||
| So he didn't, he didn't take any time off to go become a board member on Raytheon, I guess. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's for retirement, I guess. | ||
| Um, so, but to me, it seems like, it seems like he's taking orders from somebody. | ||
| It seems like he is, um, They're all taking orders from someone. | ||
| But how can that be? | ||
| If he's the head of... I mean, he's supposed to be the top of the pyramid. | ||
| Who is dictating to him that he should be involved in all this political crap? | ||
| Our civilian political leaders. | ||
| Look, we all know it's the cabal, the deep state. | ||
| Yeah, to be honest, the politicians don't run anything in this world, right? | ||
| I mean, you've seen the footage of Lindsey Graham fist bumping Kamala at LA. | ||
| They just go back behind closed doors with the cigars in the smoky rooms and they laugh at us. | ||
| While they sit there and collect their full paychecks during COVID and in fact actually get more vacation. | ||
| Think about this people. | ||
| They not only got their full paycheck but they were on vacation most of the time during COVID while you're struggling with your business. | ||
| You can't go out with your friends and all this. | ||
| I mean And now you see it. | ||
| These school boards are now like little mini dictators because they see how the politicians in Washington get away with it. | ||
| And, you know, oh, we don't like what you're saying, so we're just going to have you arrested. | ||
| And then you have people saying, well, we have to take the country back through rigged elections and we have to take the country back through censored, you know, Platforms know we have to take the country back by getting in their face with a bullhorn for now and let them know that you people work for us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they haven't only forgotten it. | ||
| And they forgot it a long time ago. | ||
| Now they just don't believe it. | ||
| They don't work for us. | ||
| We're their slaves. | ||
| We're their servants. | ||
| I hadn't thought about that trickle-down effect of the... | ||
| You know, what they do in Washington, D.C. | ||
| is setting the example for how the school board down below who, I'm talking about petty tyranny, like, but they're being tyrants and they've been sort of shown how to shut people down and how to act outraged and indignant when you're silencing people from the Democrats up top. | ||
| That's a very good point. | ||
| Well, you know who has figured it out? | ||
| George Soros and the leadership of the left, right? | ||
| And we were talking about this in between breaks, right? | ||
| The left projects their mind-numb robotness onto us, their useful idiotness onto us because they know that that's what they are. | ||
| And so they assume that we all act the same way. | ||
| Like they assume that every Trump voter agrees with everything. | ||
| I voted for Trump and I don't agree with probably 50 percent of the things that happened in his last year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To the point where I'm almost like, is he a bad guy? | ||
| I don't know this. | ||
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| And so they're easily controlled and they think we're easily controlled when the exact opposite is true. | ||
| I mean, rugged individualism prevents us all from forming huge organizations. | ||
| And they know that capturing the country was done at the local level, and that's exactly what he's done. | ||
| These school boards Yeah, how much funding? | ||
| I know in the county I live in, Hillsborough County, the state attorney, Andrew Warren, was directly funded by George Soros, Democrat. | ||
| But the Republican sheriff, Chad Chronister, supports Warren. | ||
| So what does that say? | ||
| And he's married to the DiBartolo family, not necessarily your righteous Republican bloodline, right? | ||
| So the corruption at the lower levels, we're all just now waking up to. | ||
| I mean, I'm not. | ||
| But a lot of average Americans are like, oh, now we understand how this school board race had so much money injected into it because these criminals are giving the money up. | ||
| Because when you pour in $20 billion to change the makeup of a country, what's $10,000 to some small school board in some small town? | ||
| The people there have no idea this is happening. | ||
| It's almost too late at this point, but people are finally standing up and pushing back and realizing that you can't trust these people just to teach your kids. | ||
| That's not what they're doing. | ||
| It's never too late, Harrison. | ||
| Never too late. | ||
| All right, we're going to talk about what we can do to fight back when we get back. | ||
| I can't believe it's already half over. | ||
| We have so much more to talk about, folks. | ||
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| Welcome back. | ||
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| There's a liner. | ||
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| I'm cutting ahead here. | ||
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You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| Watch live right now at band.video. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| I'm distracted by my guest here. | ||
| Jeremy Brown and I are having a very interesting conversation during the break. | ||
| We still have so much to get to. | ||
| I want to get to this story about President Biden, because obviously this is one of the major stories of the entire day, and I haven't gotten to it. | ||
| I saved it for you. | ||
| So now we get to talk about... Wait, Biden's the president? | ||
| Well, supposedly so. | ||
| You know, they're telling me that there's a decrepit old vampire in Washington, D.C. | ||
| who... He's doing a fabulous job. | ||
| He's, you know, he's a top-notch meat puppet being manipulated by who knows who. | ||
| Let's see, which video should we go to first? | ||
| All right, let's go to clip number three. | ||
| Here is Joe Biden yesterday talking about none other than Founding Father Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Let's see what he has to say about this particular famous quote from that writer of the Declaration of Independence. | ||
| The Second Amendment from the day it was passed limited the type of people could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. | ||
| You couldn't buy a cannon. | ||
| Those who say the blood of the, the blood of patriots, you know, and all the stuff about how we're going to have to move against the government. | ||
| Well, the tree of liberty is not water in the blood of patriots. | ||
| What's happened is that there never been, if you wanted to think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons. | ||
| The point is that there's always been. | ||
| The ability to limit rationally limit the type of weapon that can be owned and who can own it. | ||
| All right, so where do we start with this, Jeremy? | ||
| Well, let me let me start with this, Mr. President. | ||
| Asterix. | ||
| My name is Jeremy Brown. | ||
| I'm a retired Army Green Beret, and over the course of my military career, I was deployed over 17 countries on five of the seven continents, and I never flew an F-15. | ||
| I never used nuclear weapons, so you can take that for what it's worth. | ||
| It takes more than F-15s and nuclear weapons to secure liberty, and he seems to have misquoted Jefferson. | ||
| It's not just the blood of patriots, Mr. President. | ||
| It's also the blood of tyrants. | ||
| I'd say more importantly, the blood of tyrants in this situation. | ||
| But it is like these people who say this, it's like, oh, these people who quote the founding father, Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| These are the people that you're against. | ||
| These are people you're calling stupid. | ||
| One group volunteers the blood and the other one extracts it. | ||
| Doesn't volunteer, right? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| But, you know, he also mentions the type of people it limited. | ||
| And I'd say that maybe in that whole diatribe we just heard might be the only slightly true thing. | ||
| Of course, it wasn't. | ||
| Put in at the time of the Constitution, but it is true that the first implementation of gun control in America was specifically against black people because they didn't want slaves having weapons for obvious reasons. | ||
| Same reason they didn't want them to read either. | ||
| Same reason they don't want us to have weapons. | ||
| And let's just go back to my good friend Mark Milley, because I was listening to you earlier today. | ||
| How embarrassing is it to have all this schooling, all of the, you know, I'm a Green Beret, you know, he brags about it, but like I said, he probably only spent two years on the ODA. | ||
| And then he brings up the three-fifths compromise. | ||
| General Milley, let me explain a little bit about history. | ||
| The Three-Fifths Compromise was actually to weaken the South because they wanted to claim that slaves counted towards representation in Congress. | ||
| So it was actually an abolitionist move. | ||
| to make them only worth three-fifths to help get rid of the abomination that is slavery, which still exists to this day, by the way. | ||
| I don't know if you've ever heard of human trafficking, sex trafficking, but now we've gone from black people to three-year-olds and four-year-old little boys and girls. | ||
| Or black people in Libya. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, black people in Libya. | ||
| So slavery still exists, but to have a high-level bureaucrat, but we'll call him a general, In front of Congress, trying to pretend like, and wax all intellectual about, we thought black people were only three-fifths of a person. | ||
| Look, read a history book, sir. | ||
| I did, and I'm just an enlisted swine, okay? | ||
| That is such a red herring to basically convince morons, right? | ||
| Only morons say, oh, this country thought blacks were three-fifths of the people. | ||
| But I bet Larry Pinckney knows why the three-fifths compromise was put into place, right? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I don't think he's racist. | ||
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| Well, and of course, you know, it gets into the whole concept that people tend to forget that half of America never had slaves ever. | ||
| But anyway, that's a whole different topic. | ||
| Another thing that, um, you know, we mentioned the canons. | ||
| Now, I'm no historian. | ||
| I didn't go to school for it, but I do have a basic, uh, you know, understanding of the literacy and, uh, canons perfectly legal to buy privately around the time of the American Revolution. | ||
| In fact, you had warships with dozens and dozens of cannons on each side, privately owned and privately operated. | ||
| So what is he talking about? | ||
| Is it just ahistorical nonsense? | ||
| I think what we've all learned is that we should not take our history lessons from a Democrat or an anti-American leftist. | ||
| Oh, I learned that a very long time ago. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| So, yeah, it wasn't the second amendment that makes machine guns or any of this stuff illegal. | ||
| It's tyrants like Joe Biden. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Democrats and even Republicans. | ||
| Look, folks, Republicans are not your friend either. | ||
| I don't know if you've been paying attention for the last 50 years, but look at their voting records, OK? | ||
| The second, it's kind of like Texas passes constitutional carry, right? | ||
| Folks, why is it called constitutional carry? | ||
| Because it's already guaranteed to you in the Constitution. | ||
| It's like another redundant law that a politician can then say, oh, I voted for constitutional carry. | ||
| Well, how about this? | ||
| Why don't you stand up there and go, why are we voting for something that is already guaranteed under our Bill of Rights? | ||
| And this is just it. | ||
| This is the little slight, you know, I like to talk a lot about the 95-5 paradigm. | ||
| The best lie is 95% truth, okay? | ||
| And when a politician stands up there and tells you that he's giving you something because he voted for a bill, what we should be saying is, why are you even up there proposing these bills? | ||
| Why don't you just say the Second Amendment says, shall not be infringed? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| How about have a spine? | ||
| Yeah, and that's the interesting thing. | ||
| It was actually something you said earlier made me think of this too. | ||
| You know, what they're trying to impose on us is something entirely novel and new, other than when it's been tried and failed in history before. | ||
| It's socialism, it's communism, it's entirely alien to the American experience. | ||
| What we want is nothing new. | ||
| We literally just want you to stick to the laws as they were written before. | ||
| Like, we shouldn't have to pass a new law to stop illegal immigration. | ||
| The laws are on the books, just enforce them. | ||
| We shouldn't have to pass constitutional carry. | ||
| We have the Second Amendment. | ||
| Why have we deviated from that? | ||
| So we're in this very weird situation where we're being told we're the evil ones trying to, you know, commit terrorism when really we're just like, just do what the law says to do. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| But before we get too far into that, I do want to mention one more thing from that comment that Joe Biden just said. | ||
| He said we need F-15s and nuclear weapons to overthrow the government when apparently our government almost fell when a thousand Trump supporters totally unarmed broke windows at the Capitol. | ||
| Which is it, Joe? | ||
| Are we under imminent threat of a takeover by unarmed grandmothers walking through the Capitol hallways? | ||
| Imagine if we would have had a bunch of airplanes. | ||
| It really could have been like a Pearl Harbor. | ||
| It's just insanity. | ||
| I mean, you know? | ||
| It's just insanity. | ||
| It could have been very different. | ||
| It is insanity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nobody other than people that have no brain cells left. | ||
| Maybe they've been vaccinated. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Nobody is falling for this crap, right? | ||
| I mean, there's a reason that they're scared to death. | ||
| There's a reason why they put barriers up around the Capitol. | ||
| There's a reason why they came out with the narrative that, oh, we're scared. | ||
| But they're literally saying we're scared they're going to show up in all 50 states with guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So let's call out the National Guard like America. | ||
| The Republic has fallen, okay? | ||
| Your government is telling you that they're scared to death of you, and every single day, there is a new video of a school board, of a county commission, of a city council, of these cowards that are backing down to mothers, homeschool mothers, or regular mothers, or teachers, or fathers. | ||
| I mean, they're so scared of us, We need to capitalize on this. | ||
| We need to show them that we're done with this nonsense and take it back. | ||
| And if you don't do it now with your First Amendment, even if they try to take it away, if you don't do it now with your First Amendment, you're going to have to do it with your Second Amendment. | ||
| And I specialize in the Second Amendment phase. | ||
| Well, we're going to get into that in our final segment when we get back with Jeremy Brown. | ||
| Very, very interesting stuff. | ||
| The Republic has fallen. | ||
| Sad, but true. | ||
| I mean, just look around, folks. | ||
| We're in occupied territory right now, behind enemy lines. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| Final segment of American Journal, and this last hour has absolutely flown by with Jeremy Brown, U.S. | ||
| Army veteran and whistleblower, who, of course, exposed the attempt of the FBI to get Jeremy to infiltrate Patriot groups. | ||
| So let's sort of revisit something that we started talking about in the very first segment of this hour, which was that you've seen This go on in other countries. | ||
| You've seen the same sort of tactics be used to overthrow foreign countries, you know, firsthand. | ||
| So can we use those examples in the past as to how secret agents or how subversive moves have overthrown through military dictatorship or whatever, overthrown sovereign countries? | ||
| Can we take those lessons from the past and project into the future what we may expect to see happen next here? | ||
| Well, I mean, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, all warfare boils down to two sides, good and evil. | ||
| And most of the wars throughout the world are really just proxy wars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's one larger element controlling smaller elements to fight the other. | ||
| So that, you know, just like during the Cold War, it was the U.S. versus Russia. | ||
| But where were we fighting all over? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I was going to say that that came to prominence during the Cold War because the two main powers were so terrified of actually having a nuclear exchange that they decided to sort of offshore their conflict. | ||
| And we talk about this war there and this war there, but it was all really the US versus Russia, right? | ||
| And that's where unconventional warfare comes in. | ||
| That's where the Green Beret operates. | ||
| And I did a year of special forces recruiting for the Army. | ||
| And at the time of the briefing, you know, the statistic was that we're in anywhere from 100 to 150 countries at any given time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In, you know, as small as two-man elements, but as large as company-sized elements. | ||
| And what we're doing is we're working with those elements that are countering the other proxies elements, right? | ||
| So you look at Yemen and Saudi Arabia and all the nonsense in the Middle East, it's not really You know, this little country against that little country. | ||
| It's this little country that the U.S. | ||
| has interest in versus this country that some other, you know, China or Russia or somebody, right? | ||
| And that's the that's the essence of unconventional warfare. | ||
| Well, now what you have is America is the target. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because there is a globalist plan for New World Order. | ||
| They just renamed it. | ||
| They've rebranded it. | ||
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| It's rebranded. | ||
| It's called The Great Reset, right? | ||
| And while it is a conspiracy theory, right, we all know this, it's such a powerful conspiracy theory that the World Economic Forum puts it on their website. | ||
| It's on the cover of Time magazine. | ||
| Or let's say we might title a book about it. | ||
| You know, the guy that heads the World Economic Forum writes a book called The Great Reset. | ||
| I mean, there's a banner behind me, but it doesn't exist, folks. | ||
| Don't read it, but read it. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| So this is what we're dealing with. | ||
| So America is, like I said, the republic has fallen, but not completely, right? | ||
| Like they've captured the ground, they've captured the government, but there's still people like me, there's still people like you, probably hundreds of millions of us that aren't going to go down like that. | ||
| And so, you know, we're battling for the last bastion of liberty. | ||
| And don't get me wrong, the government has been corrupt for a very long time. | ||
| I mean, I look back on my 20-year career and all the things that I do, and frankly, most times I regret that I was duped into some of these endless wars, right? | ||
| Really? | ||
| 20 years in Afghanistan? | ||
| I mean, I can't count on both my hands the number of guys that I have personally Lost in the number of funerals that I've been to. | ||
| How many times I've heard the Ballad of the Green Beret played at a funeral of a Green Beret whose now has, whose kids are fatherless. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And for what? | ||
| And for what? | ||
| So Mark Milley can walk off with his $10,000 a month retirement into a seven-figure job at Raytheon or Booz Allen Hamilton or any of these things? | ||
| I mean, that's what it has been. | ||
| And I talked about this with Kathy Chamberlain yesterday when we recorded a podcast. | ||
| If they would have allowed Patton to live in Tampa, Florida and drive his Mercedes home every night to see his wife and kids, World War II would have lasted 20 years, right? | ||
| If the generals like Mark Milley were Put in Afghanistan and said, if you want to see your wife and kids, you got to finish this one, the damn war, right? | ||
| Here's the reality. | ||
| If you actually look at history, Afghanistan was won in six months by a few special forces ODAs through the Northern Alliance, because that's what we do is we win. | ||
| And it's the conventional minded morons that actually run our industrial, you know, military industrial complex in D.C. | ||
| They said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We can't win that quick. | ||
| There's a lot of money to be made. | ||
| And besides, China needs all those rare earth minerals protected by our M4s. | ||
| And so this is really the problem. | ||
| America is the last target. | ||
| Australia's not fighting back. | ||
| New Zealand, none of these places that everybody wants to think that they're going to run off to. | ||
| Costa Rica, they don't even have a military, folks. | ||
| If your escape plan is Costa Rica, they don't have a military. | ||
| So imagine how that's going to go. | ||
| Well, and what you point out, Senator, and there's very interesting connections, FM 32 was the instruction manual that really changed the way counterinsurgency worked, right? | ||
| It went from a, like you're pointing out, you go in, you win, and then you get out. | ||
| It was FM 32, which was this instruction manual that actually changed it to a prolonged sort of, no, the military is going to go in and work with local forces to try to win hearts and minds. | ||
| I mean, it's not like, oh, you know, We went in and then suddenly changed our minds, like, no, we have the documentation that shows here's the instruction that went out that led to the increase in this forever war. | ||
| So, I mean, this is all documented. | ||
| Interestingly enough, if you look out, look who the author was of FM 32, you find a very distinct connection to the lockstep document, the Rockefeller Foundation. | ||
| So it's literally all tied in together, like very intricately. | ||
| So do you think that America is now, you know, where Afghanistan was 20 years ago, where we have special forces teams coming in to Set up the groundwork for a... We're not wearing flip-flops yet, but um... But is that coming? | ||
| I mean... Look, I will tell you, I have driven thousands of miles in the last couple months and I'm trying to get a feel and really, I'm looking, you know, a lot of people suffer from hopium, right? | ||
| I want a hit. | ||
| Somebody needs to give me some hope because even guys with my background are not necessarily as far along as I am in how bad it is. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And so they'll have the skill sets, but they have cognitive dissonance just like everybody else, right? | ||
| They've got a mortgage, they've got a car payment, they've got kids in school, they've got fundraisers and things like that. | ||
| But isn't this the key part of work? | ||
| I bring it up all the time. | ||
| You don't win a war by killing all the enemy soldiers. | ||
| You win a war by making them submit. | ||
| You win a war by winning the hearts and minds of the people on the ground, right? | ||
| So, I mean, that's surrendering. | ||
| When you go, ah, it's too much, I'm gonna give up. | ||
| You might as well be dead at that. | ||
| They might as well have killed you because, for all intents and purposes, you're on their side all of a sudden. | ||
| Well, that's right. | ||
| That's I mean, that's why special operations probably kills way fewer people than a Marine Corps infantry company, because we don't win. | ||
| We win through intelligence, through relationships, through Winning over the populace, right? | ||
| We don't, you know, it's like people say all the time, oh I bet you've killed a lot of people. | ||
| It's like, that's not our job. | ||
| Our job is to go in and turn the people into the direction that we want. | ||
| We want them all rowing in their same direction, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And do, you know, can we bring the scunion? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, we can do that, but that's not our primary mission. | ||
| Right, only if that helps advance the primary mission. | ||
| That's correct, right? | ||
| I mean, yeah, and Well, I'm not going to get into the whole Bin Laden thing, but it's not the goal to kill the guy, it's to capture him so that we can get to, you know, we work with bad guys to get to the worst guy, right? | ||
| And you don't do that by killing them, right? | ||
| And Harrison, if you were, you know, obviously you're one of the leaders in the domestic violence extremist movement, right? | ||
| I think I'm the leader, actually. | ||
| So a special forces unit is not going to come in and kill you. | ||
| They're going to capture you and be like, all right, Harrison, see those fingernails? | ||
| Then they're going to torture me. | ||
| Then they're going to have to kill me. | ||
| We win through information, right? | ||
| And that's why we go through all the psychological evaluations and all the training, because any moron Can you shoot somebody? | ||
| I mean, no offense, infantry brethren. | ||
| I was an infantryman as well. | ||
| But I mean, the killing part's the easy part, right? | ||
| It's the nuanced aspect of warfare is what special operations forces do. | ||
| Yeah, and it is literally an information war, and people need to realize that you just sort of give over and roll over and go, ah, well, I guess they won. | ||
| That means they won. | ||
| It's only when you, you know, the quote that I said from, you know, it's from the Punic Wars, an ancient Roman writer, and I'll get it wrong here, but it was something like, you know, the victor is not victorious if the vanquish does not consider himself so. | ||
| So, if you're sitting there out in America going, hey, we lost and we're vanquished, then you are. | ||
| It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| If you say, look, we are under occupation, we have foreign powers manipulating our government, we have enemies of our nation inside of our government operating, and we have to do everything we can to push back, then you're not defeated yet, and it's not over yet, and there's still hope. | ||
| Well, and to go to your disarmament topic, right, the gun control, the key is they can't enslave us if we have guns, right? | ||
| People don't realize this, but the American populace is the largest standing army in the world. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And the armed American veteran is the largest defense force. | ||
| And that's why they can't take us over from the outside, and they had to do it from the inside. | ||
| I wish we had more time. | ||
| So much more to talk about still. | ||
| Jeremy Brown. | ||
| What have I told you? | ||
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| You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | ||
| Watch live right now at bands.video. | ||
| Music icon Morrissey is back to enrage the bed-wetting mob with a new authentically anti-establishment album and a stinging rebuke of the UK's relentless COVID-19 lockdown. | ||
| In an interview published on his Morrissey Central website, the former Smiths frontman ripped into how coronavirus rules and restrictions have been weaponised to widen the gap between us and them. | ||
| The interviewer put it to Morrissey that quote, Covid society is also the precise description of slavery. | ||
| Yeah, we are supposed to be in a time when anything connected to slavery must be blown up or thrown in a canal in Bristol. | ||
| Precisely responded Morrissey, and more people are now forced into poverty, which is another form of slavery, as is tax and council tax and all the other ways in which we are pinned down and tracked. | ||
| Our present freedom is restricted to visiting supermarkets and buying sofas. | ||
| The government act like Chinese emperors. | ||
| We will allow you to live as we do if you behave yourself. | ||
| Morrissey pointed out that the elite aren't subject to the same Covid rules that they impose on everyone else. | ||
| He said the country isn't really in lockdown except for people at the lower end of the social ladder. | ||
| People who have wealth are not remotely affected by rules and regulations. | ||
| Their lives are as they always were. | ||
| The police only find people who live on council estates. | ||
| Haven't you noticed? | ||
| Far from the projection of the collectivist myth that we're all in this together. | ||
| The kind of fake performative charade embodied by the weekly clap for the NHS. | ||
| ...or cringe celebrity charity fundraisers. | ||
| Morrissey points out that in reality, the lockdown has made people more atomised than ever before. | ||
| It has brought the worst out in people, and we weren't ever in this together. | ||
| We are deprived of seeing and hearing other people. | ||
| And above all, you want to be with others who see and hear what you see and hear, because this is basic oxygen for the human soul. | ||
| Take it away, and people are dead. | ||
| What defines England's new contrived, collectivised, patriotic identity? | ||
| It's firmly based around people worshipping dysfunctional organs of the state, while hiding their actual identity behind state-mandated cloth and elastic. | ||
| Any native semblance of true English identity has long been overpowered by the all-consuming strength of diversity. | ||
| The kind of diversity that led to the hashtag refugees welcome campaign and the British government graciously rescuing refugee Salman Abedi from war-torn Libya. | ||
| Aberdey went on to show his gratitude by blowing himself up at an Ariana Grande concert, killing 22 people and injuring 800, many of them children. | ||
| Concerned concertgoers and flustered security guards wanted to report Aberdey's suspicious behaviour to higher-ups, but they were either ignored or refrained from choosing to report him at all. | ||
| For fear of being branded racist. | ||
| But as we've been told many times before, political correctness is just being nice to people. | ||
| Diversity necessitates the dissolving of borders. | ||
| Unless those borders are concrete bollards on bridges. | ||
| Morrissey mentions another case of diversity gone wrong. | ||
| Emily Jones, the seven-year-old girl from Bolton who had her throat slit while cycling through the park on Mother's Day last year. | ||
| The culprit was an Albanian woman smuggled into the UK on a lorry and later given asylum by the government despite lying about being a victim of human trafficking. | ||
| Despite admitting that the killing of Emily Jones was, quote, premeditated, 30-year-old Eltonia Skarner escaped a murder charge because her defense team successfully claimed She'd just forgotten to take her meds that day. | ||
| The Manchester Arena bombing is the subject of the title track of Morrissey's new album, Bonfire of Teenagers. | ||
| Doesn't mince words, does he? | ||
| Bonfire of Teenagers, the track is magnificent, but you must be expecting some manufactured paranoia. | ||
| The usual, you can't sing about that! | ||
| Pearl fumblers, Morrissey was asked. | ||
| He responded, quote, it's about the kids who were murdered. | ||
| All right, folks, that is the latest video by Paul Joseph Watson called Morrissey versus the Conformist Cult. | ||
| It can be found at band.video and infowars.com. | ||
| I'm here in studio with Nick Fuentes, and we will be coming to you live in one minute. | ||
| When we get back to American Journal, stay with us, folks. | ||
| Infowars.com and band.video is where you go to share this link. | ||
| More with Nick Fuentes on the other side. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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You're listening to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| Watch it live right now at Band.Video. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Third hour of American Journal. | ||
| My name's Harrison Smith. | ||
| You're watching this on InfoWars.com and Band.Video. | ||
| Next to me in studio is Nicholas J. Fuentes, acclaimed host of America First. | ||
| I'll read your little bio here. | ||
| An American political commentator and podcaster, Nick has been censored on numerous social media platforms for supporting the America First agenda. | ||
| His website, nicolasjfuentes.com, on Twitter at nickjfuentes.com. | ||
| Welcome to the show, Nick. | ||
| Hey, great to be here. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Very happy you're here. | ||
| Of course, you're in Austin because you're in the middle of a road trip, I guess. | ||
| A little excursion. | ||
| Can you tell us about this? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| So, earlier this year, I got put on the no-fly list by the federal government, which we actually haven't gotten to the bottom of that 100%. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that's probably because of my appearance at the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| And, you know, for the record, of course, I think you know. | ||
| I wasn't inside the Capitol, didn't break any laws, but that didn't prevent me from getting put on a federal no-fly list, which I only found out a couple of months ago. | ||
| And so this summer I decided, I said, I'm not going to let the federal government prevent me from enjoying white boys' summer. | ||
| I'm not going to prevent them or let them prevent me from enjoying the summer and traveling the country. | ||
| So I rented a car, I hit the road, and we've been traveling across the country and doing meetups in lots of different cities and things like that. | ||
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| Well, and that's, I mean, the fact that you're on a no-fly list is really incredible, and And I guess people don't understand how intense this is, that you weren't at the Capitol, aren't actually accused of any crime, haven't actually been charged with anything or anything of the sort, and yet are on a federal no-fly list. | ||
| I've seen you tweet about this, and I see people underneath say, oh, it's a private company. | ||
| They always try to throw this back to you. | ||
| It's like, well, it's a private company, as if you're a libertarian or something, right? | ||
| Which doesn't even make any sense anyway. | ||
| But then on top of that, It's not a private company. | ||
| It's the federal list. | ||
| And the airline told you that. | ||
| They're like, it's not us. | ||
| It was actually, it's the federal order. | ||
| So, I mean, how outrageous is that? | ||
| It is outrageous. | ||
| And that is conventionally the argument that they throw back at conservatives because conservatives are in favor of private property. | ||
| They're in favor of markets. | ||
| And so people say, well, that means that you have to be okay then. | ||
| With all the abuses of private companies, you know, because you're in favor of like a lemonade stand or ease of doing business. | ||
| Well, if a monopolistic tech giant like Twitter bans you, well, if you don't support that, then you're a hypocrite, which I mean, that's not true to begin with, but that's conventionally the argument they use to justify tech censorship. | ||
| But in my case, it's the federal government. | ||
| Coming down on me. | ||
| This is the TSA, this is DHS, this is the FBI. | ||
| And, you know, it's pretty amazing because there was a time when there was some consensus about civil liberties in the country, you know? | ||
| The ACLU 50 years ago probably would have taken my case up. | ||
| But now the ACLU is full of partisans. | ||
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| And I think some of the people in the ACLU even wrote an article in New York Times or Something like that, saying, like, what happened to the ACLU? | ||
| We used to defend civil liberties. | ||
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| And back during the war on terror under George W. Bush, of course, Infowars was on the money. | ||
| Conservatism was backing Bush and backing the national security state. | ||
| But liberals at the time said, well, this is just terrorism as a pretext for an expansion of government control. | ||
| And they opposed that and they protested that. | ||
| And now we're in an era where the government is just targeting people. | ||
| On the basis of their political ideology, specifically political dissent. | ||
| And liberals are, they're cheering it on enthusiastically. | ||
| So it is an outrageous time. | ||
| You would think there'd be some consensus that we all have a stake as the citizenry, left or right, that the government can't just do whatever it wants to us. | ||
| You know, take us off the, or rather put us on the no-fly list, take your money, ban you from social media, that kind of thing. | ||
| But that consensus is gone. | ||
| Yeah, and the one thing I've seen, I've read a few articles on air where they'll say, you know, it's dangerous to implement this type of thing because what if it gets turned on us? | ||
| Because what if it gets turned on black and brown protesters who are just fighting for their rights? | ||
| And it's like, no, it's wrong because it's wrong in the same way that when it was targeting Arabs in, you know, 2001, InfoWars was against that. | ||
| You don't have an unaccountable, you know, judicial system essentially where the defendant doesn't even know they're being charged and has no ability to counteract or argue against those charges. | ||
| It's just wrong on the face of it. | ||
| But now, you know, even the most liberal organizations or liberal outlets really only tentatively or tepidly oppose it only because they're afraid it will be turned on them eventually. | ||
| Yeah, well and that's the argument at this point is I think the polarization has gotten so bad there's really no middle ground between the two sides in the country and so we don't see ourselves as on the same team and then the consequence of that and by the way I think it's more at the left that feels like that than the right. | ||
| I think the right still Fies into this idea that we're all in this together and got to unite the country under the red, white and blue. | ||
| But the left has decided that we just have to go. | ||
| We have to be erased, silenced, disenfranchised and ultimately either put in jail or eliminated. | ||
| Or we just have to be quiet and go along with their steamrolling control, steamrolling domination over the entire country. | ||
| And so that's where they justify these things. | ||
| And I said on my show, if liberals came out and said, we support tech censorship because it hurts our enemies, I would say, You know, that makes sense. | ||
| Like, at least that's honest. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| But they come out here and they say, well, you know, you shouldn't be a jerk. | ||
| You know, you ran your mouth and now you're on the no-fly list. | ||
| And it's like, is that really the principle that we want to uphold in America with the most powerful federal government? | ||
| That people that run their mouth get crushed under the national security apparatus? | ||
| You can't justify that. | ||
| So, you know, if the left were to just come out and say, yeah, I mean, it's bad for you. | ||
| That's good for us. | ||
| I would get that, and I would actually agree, because we're in a conflict, right? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's the nature of a conflict, but, you know, they try to justify it and rationalize it, and that's, I think, our biggest problem is people rationalizing the actions of the system. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, and I talk about that all the time, because to me it's just a... | ||
| It's a, uh, and I hate, I hate to do the, um, the liberal thing here, but let's relate to Harry Potter for a moment. | ||
| Uh, you've got, you've got the overt evil of like the Voldemort, right? | ||
| Like the Hitler, the I'm going to destroy you. | ||
| But then you have the like sickly sweet Dolores Umbridge sort of thing for our younger viewers. | ||
| They'll, they'll understand what I'm talking about here, but it's so much worse and so much more infuriating when instead of just saying, I'm silencing you because you're bad, they're like, oh, it's for your own good, sweetie. | ||
| It's so much more infuriating to me to have to deal with that because it's harder to combat, I guess, because they're able to coat their tyranny in a sickly sweet, sort of, it's for your good kind of thing. | ||
| It makes it harder to combat, I think. | ||
| Well, absolutely. | ||
| And I think a big part of the problem is people were taught their whole lives growing up that tyranny would come to America looking like Hitler. | ||
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| It would come to America looking like 1984. | ||
| It's going to be obvious. | ||
| It's going to be blatant. | ||
| And to people like you and I and people who watch Infowars, it is obvious and it is blatant. | ||
| You know, if you sort of take the blinders off, you could see it. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| It comes with this tone, which is about compassion and inclusivity and and tolerance and openness and all these kinds of things. | ||
| If you read between the lines, though, you could see it plain as day, the Orwellian nightmare with the tech censorship, the government, all of that. | ||
| But, you know, for people that are coming up in grade school, because that's where the programming starts, it starts out with, you know, look at these freedom fighters, look at civil rights heroes, and then it's a sort of subtle, like, atrocity propaganda, brainwashing. | ||
| Oh, but there's this colonialism, slavery, genocide, hate your ancestors, hate your country, hate who you are, that kind of thing. | ||
| So, you're right, I mean, there is kind of this spell that they put on. | ||
| People watch, like, Dancing with the Stars, and it's sort of this, like, bread and circus, and they don't realize what's going on just underneath the surface that, you know, all these people are in on it. | ||
| So, I totally, I've never seen Harry Potter. | ||
| By the way, I sort of pride myself on that, but the analogy I think of is like Star Wars. | ||
| You know, in Star Wars when the Clone Troopers become the Stormtroopers, you know, the Republic becomes the Empire. | ||
| That's what we're living through right now. | ||
| That's my baby analogy. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I I try I bring up Lord of the Rings about three times every episode so I think I think it's useful and I mean it's it's funny to me because Well, okay. | ||
| I'm not gonna start talking about Harry Potter. | ||
| We're not gonna. | ||
| We're not gonna go down that road I I'd rather go down the road that you know you were talking about in that I guess maybe we were talking about before We went on air, but this the fact that they're now expanding the Capitol Police to field offices and really Moving forward with the nationalization of police. | ||
| And again, it's like I was raging earlier in the show. | ||
| She's like, how can you not see what's happening? | ||
| How is it not absurdly obvious what's going on with this? | ||
| The threats aren't real, but the tyranny is that comes out. | ||
| And, you know, I'd love to get your input on this because I sort of went off on a tirade at the beginning of the show. | ||
| Talk about the fact that what they're laying down now is the infrastructure for total control control, but they're doing it prematurely in that They don't have total control yet. | ||
| So there is a chance that 2022 or 2024, all of this apparatus that they've created could fall into the hands of conservatives and be turned against the people that they're now trying to use it to support. | ||
| So I want to get your opinion on that when we get back. | ||
| We're going to go to a short commercial break here. | ||
| I'm with Nicholas J. Fuentes, his website, nicolasjfuentes.com. | ||
| Nick J. Fuentes is his Twitter account. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
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| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We are back with Nick Fuentes. | ||
| I'm watching some Star Wars here. | ||
| Very exciting stuff. | ||
| Okay, so when we dropped off we were talking about this Capitol Police plan. | ||
| Because yeah, I'd love to get your input on this because they're laying down the groundwork for a really totalitarian regime and it's like if only we had Maybe just one, maybe just one good Republican that actually understood the threat that we're under and understood like they have a gun to your head. | ||
| But in 2022 or 2024, that gun could be in your hands. | ||
| But I can't see Ted Cruz. | ||
| I couldn't see even Matt Gaetz or Jim Jordan. | ||
| I can't see any Republican like actually taking control and going after the left in the same way that the left is going after the right. | ||
| It's a major handicap that we have as conservatives. | ||
| And so they're just going to steamroll right over us. | ||
| But what do you think about the idea that they're laying out this totalitarian infrastructure a little bit prematurely? | ||
| Well, I think that they're confident in the fact after the 2020 election that they'll never have to turn over the keys to the federal government, the national security apparatus, because, and I said this during Stop the Steal, that was the urgency of that transition period, from the election to the inauguration, because it's not just the consequence of four years of Biden or Harris, it's the consequence of what happens when The system knows, and it has demonstrated the ability, that they can steal a presidential election. | ||
| And not like they did in, like, 1960, not like they did a handful of other times when they get a few thousand votes in one or two states, but in six, you know, five or six swing states. | ||
| And we're talking, like, hundreds of thousands of ballots, a fake pandemic, all that kind of stuff. | ||
| So I think at this point, they're Confident, perhaps overconfident that they'll just never have to turn the keys over again to Republicans. | ||
| And that's why it was a little bit disappointing in the Trump administration that he didn't use the tools at his disposal to target left-wing institutions, the tools that he had available to him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And in a big way, it was because he, you know, he's not a politician. | ||
| He came in from the private sector. | ||
| I don't know that you can come into that office with no expertise and wield it effectively or even... Especially when all of your underlings are working against you. | ||
| Absolutely, yeah. | ||
| And that's the other thing, which I was about to say, is not just in the Congress, not just the congressional leadership and the party leadership, but within his own White House, people right under his nose in the West Wing, constantly subverting him. | ||
| And, you know, it came out right after the inauguration, I think, that it was his generals lying to him about the troop totals in Iraq and Afghanistan, telling him, no, we won't pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
| So in short, it's unfortunate because I think Donald Trump would have been the only Republican that would have been capable of doing something like that. | ||
| And he missed the opportunity in a big way to go after big tech, academia, to go after the Democratic Party, the big liberal cities. | ||
| And so now we're in this predicament where Left has unitary control over government. | ||
| They're filling up the agencies, the intelligence apparatus, national security apparatus, Pentagon with their people. | ||
| And it's a big open-ended question. | ||
| Can Republicans get back in office? | ||
| Can they utilize those things? | ||
| The upside, the upshot of all that is if the answer is yes, if by Some miracle, we get another chance, get another opportunity like 16, get back in the driver's seat, then we will inherit control over this apparatus. | ||
| Then the onus is on whoever the next president is or whoever the next leader is to gut the institutions, fill them with our people, and start to turn things around, start to reverse what's gone on for the past, you know, 30 years. | ||
| Right, because I feel like we're just being set up for Another Trump, right? | ||
| We can work our butts off. | ||
| We can do everything that's necessary to get somebody in office. | ||
| And then instead of using this apparatus, just to do the same thing that the left is doing to us, right? | ||
| If we just did exactly the same thing, it would be very effective. | ||
| But instead, they'd say, no, no, that's not what America is about. | ||
| We don't target people for. | ||
| So it's like on one side, they just are ruthlessly targeting their opponents. | ||
| The opponents, on the other hand, if they were in control, would never do that. | ||
| And it's like, I really think it's just I think most of the people in the capital like still watch mainstream media. | ||
| They just don't understand the threat that we're under and I don't. | ||
| Or they're controlled. | ||
| So, I don't know, what do you think it is? | ||
| Do you think, like, they literally just don't understand that their supporters are literally being rounded up by secret police and being charged with terrorism for peacefully protesting? | ||
| Like, and they just think that's fine? | ||
| Are they controlled opposition? | ||
| Like, what does it, what is it going to take to get into the minds of the Republicans? | ||
| Like, this is a life-or-death struggle and you're twiddling your thumbs. | ||
| I think it's controlled opposition. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think that the whole party is basically controlled and I think that throughout the Trump years they were either actively subverting or they were biding their time. | ||
| You know, they were stalling. | ||
| And that was a big part of it. | ||
| This is their MO. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| They knew that they didn't have to necessarily divert Trump or throw him off course or even challenge him directly. | ||
| I think they knew it would be suicide politically to challenge him, but they just ran out the clock. | ||
| When Trump wanted to pull the troops out, when Trump wanted to build the border wall, they said, well, we'll do that later. | ||
| And I keep going back to, I started my show in 2017. | ||
| Right after the inauguration. | ||
| I think it was first week in February. | ||
| And what did congressional Republicans want to do first thing after Trump got in office? | ||
| Not build a border wall, not fix the USMCA or the NAFTA trade agreement, not focus on the foreign wars. | ||
| They wanted to repeal Obamacare. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they wasted six months on that. | ||
| They tried three times and Republicans say John McCain beat it! | ||
| And then after that, they did the tax cuts, right? | ||
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| It's so frustrating. | ||
| It's so frustrating. | ||
| It's just like, and that's, you know, I always use the metaphor of like, even the Supreme Court, like, I think the Republicans should just do whatever the Democrats claim they're going to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Democrats literally, before they were in power, were like, we are going to pack the Supreme Court. | ||
| The correct response to that is for the Republicans to go, all right, well, we're going to pack it right now because we have control. | ||
| Obviously, what are they going to do? | ||
| Well, you can't do that! | ||
| We're going to! | ||
| Like, no. | ||
| You said you're going to do it, so we're going to do it preemptively to stop you from doing that. | ||
| But they, for some reason, they just can't think that way. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| They can't strategically, like, understand that this is a life or death situation. | ||
| They are coming at your throats with everything they have. | ||
| You cannot just treat them like some sort of, I don't know, just like... | ||
| Jostle back and forth, argue about this, tax cuts here, tax cuts there, life or death situation, and our people aren't fighting for us. | ||
| It's unbelievably frustrating. | ||
| I mean, you in particular. | ||
| And this is something that I cover on this show constantly. | ||
| I hate the division. | ||
| And you're getting hit pieces written on you by Breitbart and Fox News. | ||
| And it's like, I went on a big rant on the show. | ||
| Let's just lay down and die. | ||
| We'll just lay down. | ||
| We'll just let the communists have everything. | ||
| You know, we'll just destroy each other. | ||
| We got these people fighting over here and these people fight. | ||
| We'll all just fight each other and just let the communists take over. | ||
| It's infuriating. | ||
| So how do we get over this? | ||
| Well, I think Republicans have just got to get serious. | ||
| The voters have to get serious. | ||
| We have to put politicians in place that are serious. | ||
| It's not a game. | ||
| And I think that's how people look at it. | ||
| They look at it like a soccer game. | ||
| And if they win, well, you know, we'll get them next time. | ||
| And then the consequences of this are really trivial. | ||
| The consequences are not trivial. | ||
| We are talking about An extinction-level event for Western civilization. | ||
| Like, it's over. | ||
| We were out of time 20 years ago. | ||
| We were out of time 30 years ago. | ||
| This is overtime right now. | ||
| We've got a chance to start to plant the seeds, to maybe turn things around or salvage something in the future. | ||
| We don't have time to waste. | ||
| We don't have energy to waste. | ||
| And what is required now is that kind of winner mentality, where Republicans, like you said, they get in office and they say, well, you know, we're not going to do that. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| Well, we want to meet you halfway or something like that. | ||
| When the left achieves a victory, and I've been saying this on my show for the past few years or whatever, the mantra from the left is when they get abortion, when they get gay marriage, when they get Obamacare, when they get any of these recent victories, they say, you know, they go out for a press conference in front of the Supreme Court and they say, You know, this is really great. | ||
| Thanks to everybody who made this possible. | ||
| But there's still so much work to be done. | ||
| It's not enough. | ||
| Our work is not done. | ||
| And we'll be back here tomorrow for the next thing. | ||
| Republicans come in and then they, like, cut themselves off halfway. | ||
| They say, well, we're not going to get everything we want. | ||
| We'll get halfway. | ||
| We've got to get used to saying, not good enough. | ||
| We have to go further, harder. | ||
| We need more. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And recognizing that you can't trust your enemies. | ||
| Like, for some reason, they think that the Democrats are going to treat them fairly. | ||
| They're not. | ||
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| Watch it live right now at band.video. | ||
| All right, welcome back, folks. | ||
| Nick Fuentes is with me. | ||
| His website, nicolasjfuentes.com. | ||
| His Twitter, at nickjfuentes. | ||
| What can people expect to find when they go to your website? | ||
| Well, if you go to nicolasjfuentes.com, you can subscribe and see every episode of my show, all the live streams I've ever done, and my content. | ||
| And at americafirst.live, people can watch my show, which is live Monday through Friday at 8 o'clock Central. | ||
| You're doing it on the road? | ||
| I am. | ||
| Well, I've been trying to. | ||
| As much as possible? | ||
| Yeah, but I bet you guys know it's a little tricky on the road. | ||
| A little tricky on the road, yeah. | ||
| We tend to bring quite a bit of gear and it doesn't always work, but that's very exciting. | ||
| Of course, it's an incredibly popular show. | ||
| What do you think it is about you that makes people so mad? | ||
| I mean, people really... | ||
| Really hate you, Nick. | ||
| I don't know if you're aware of this. | ||
| They hate Alex Jones. | ||
| They hate you. | ||
| I mean, what is it about you that has sort of brought you to the top of... Because to be fair, there's a lot of people that started shows around the time you did that maybe had a similar setup or similar theme, but you've sort of risen to the top of this and to the top of the hatred charts, you know, coming from the other side. | ||
| What about you infuriates them so much? | ||
| Well, I think it's the fact that I'm, like InfoWars, truly independent. | ||
| I think that they really hate that, because I remember when InfoWars got censored three years ago, and I covered it on my show, I said, think about what they have going on in Texas. | ||
| They have got something that rivals the influence and the reach and the competence of a major network, and they don't need to run it up the flagpole for approval from the New World Order, from the elites. | ||
| That's power. | ||
| They fear that. | ||
| They're insecure about that. | ||
| And I don't know if I'm on the level of Infowars, but in the same sense, they look at me and I've got a younger following. | ||
| The people that show up to my meetups are teenagers. | ||
| I mean, it's high schoolers that go to my meetups and college students. | ||
| That is terrifying to the elites. | ||
| I mean, you can only imagine. | ||
| Right, because they think all the kids are on TikTok getting vaccines and doing that kind of stuff. | ||
| And then they see these kids going up and chanting Roy Burr and America First and everything. | ||
| And so I think they don't like me because I have a younger following, I'm independent, and I kind of like give a middle finger to the establishment because, you know, when they hate me... | ||
| I like revel in that. | ||
| I like that and that helps me. | ||
| And it's sort of the same, you bring up Alex Jones and people like Donald Trump or Tucker Carlson, it's anti-fragility. | ||
| I think we're capitalizing on the fact, not in a cynical way, but people resent the elites in this country. | ||
| People resent the system. | ||
| It's not working for people. | ||
| And so when people like you and I come along or Alex or Trump or Tucker, many other people, and say, you know what? | ||
| We don't need the establishment. | ||
| You hate us. | ||
| Oh, well, that actually is a good thing. | ||
| Actually, I think that means that that's a plus. | ||
| We're independent of people like us. | ||
| You're evil, so I'm okay with you hating me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that makes them see, then, in particular, you know, I tell the truth on my show. | ||
| I go on my show and I don't come up with these, like, clever rhetorical arguments that get tested in a focus group. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I roll out of bed, I turn the camera on, and I just, I, and I let them have it. | ||
| I talk about The both sides, right and left, globalist control over both sides, and I know that's why you guys are under assault. | ||
| We're under assault. | ||
| I mean, that's the real conflict. | ||
| It's not between the sort of partisan actors, institutional actors on the so-called right and the left, but it really is between the establishment and the sort of opposition, which is kind of like what we're becoming at this point. | ||
| I also think it has to do with the fact that you're taking advantage of a new technology because InfoWars has been really good at adapting itself but of course it started on radio and that's sort of still the structure that we have with the ad breaks and stuff so we're able to do a lot with it and of course we made massive inroads into the social media world before that but the idea of A kid in his basement, a kid in his room with a webcam actually affecting American politics? | ||
| I mean, that's a whole new thing. | ||
| To me, it almost reminds me more of Rush Limbaugh than anything else. | ||
| And if you go back and look at what they said about Rush Limbaugh in the 1990s, it's similar to what they say about you because he did a great job of pioneering a new medium, actually, which was the talk radio and conservative talk radio. | ||
| And I feel like that's kind of what you're doing in a way with the new technology and the live streaming capabilities. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because, you know, when I started out, I mean, I'm a younger guy, but I'm not even as young as some of the newest people that are on the scene. | ||
| Which is terrifying. | ||
| To me as a 30 year old. | ||
| Yeah, well, me too. | ||
| I was like, I used to be 18. | ||
| I'm 22. | ||
| Time goes by. | ||
| But when I was getting started, live streaming was new. | ||
| Nobody was doing live streaming. | ||
| I remember being in high school, 2015-2016, and it was like a novelty. | ||
| Twitch was just getting started, and I think YouTube was just getting their live streaming capability. | ||
| Their old forms of control are breaking. | ||
| Conventional radio, television, those kinds of things. | ||
| The internet has given way. | ||
| There used to be a time, not so much anymore, but the age of the free and open internet, was catalyzing things like the Arab Spring, although that was kind of astroturfed. | ||
| But, you know, it had the potential to catalyze world-changing events, and so I've capitalized on it. | ||
| And, you know, back to why they hate me, I think it's because they can't get rid of me. | ||
| You know, older conventional people, people that use more conventional mediums can be controlled. | ||
| People could be taken off television, even people that are on YouTube. | ||
| If you're only on YouTube doing uploads, you could be taken off in silence. | ||
| Then we've seen that happen to many people. | ||
| But with me, I've got a younger following. | ||
| It's a highly engaged audience. | ||
| It's sort of like guerrilla political. | ||
| I don't want to get the feds on me. | ||
| But you know, it's like, it's like a guerrilla sort of political activism. | ||
| And they don't really know how to respond to that. | ||
| They don't know how to take me out. | ||
| They don't know how to censor me. | ||
| You know, the SPLC, they were like, they were despondent a couple of months ago. | ||
| They're like, he built his own platform. | ||
| And I don't know how to take them off. | ||
| Because you know, the hit pieces weren't working. | ||
| They were trying to get me banned on Twitter. | ||
| So, so I think they hate me because I'm just like, Jess won't go away. | ||
| Yeah, they can't target your sponsors, they can't target the hosting site, you do it all yourself. | ||
| That's the beauty of InfoWars, it's the beauty of America First. | ||
| It's really an exciting time. | ||
| I'm a fan of history and I look at today like you look at ancient Rome and you think a thousand years from now, the This forum has taken the form of the internet, but essentially what's going on is the same thing. | ||
| It's the combating of ideas. | ||
| It's political machinations. | ||
| It's all extremely exciting. | ||
| What I want to do here, because we know they're watching us, I really want to piss off the globalists. | ||
| You know they watch you like a hawk. | ||
| We know they watch us like a hawk. | ||
| What can we talk about that'll really make them mad? | ||
| I know you haven't been watching the news much recently. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen some of the newest information. | ||
| We're coming out here, but there's a lot of insanity happening. | ||
| A paganistic trans sex worker artwork to be displayed in London's Trafalgar Square. | ||
| It's been an insane week. | ||
| Where do we go to... Well, yeah, you just passed me this one about Biden kneeling before the Israeli president. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that! | ||
| Well, and you know, you're not supposed to talk about that in Conservative Inc. | ||
| That was honestly, because I'll tell you just a quick story. | ||
| When I got my start in college, I almost was going to get a job at Daily Wire, which is Ben Shapiro's outlet, and they stopped talking to me. | ||
| They ghosted me because I kept asking, how is foreign aid America first? | ||
| How is this unconditional relationship America first? | ||
| And I said, I don't have a problem with Israel, but unconditional, unquestioning, total, one-sided, that's not sticking with the principle of America first. | ||
| But anyway, so this latest story, Biden kneeling to the Israeli president, you know, there are some people that say the left is anti-Semitic, the left is anti-Israel. | ||
| Trump was the most pro-Israel president and Biden will not be a friend. | ||
| But, you know, you see time and time again, if we're pissing off the globalists here. | ||
| Israel is a friend to the American regime, not to the American evangelicals, not to the American Christians, Protestants and others that support the state of Israel with monetary contributions or in the way they vote and in their activism. | ||
| People go to these rallies or whatever. | ||
| They support the American regime. | ||
| And the American regime is our enemy. | ||
| You know, I mean, that's something important to keep in mind, which And when me and Robert Barnes debated, I brought that up. | ||
| He said something to the effect of, oh, well, Israel wanted to take out Assad, and so did the regime. | ||
| So that means that they're our closest ally. | ||
| And I said, well, maybe they're the closest ally of the national security apparatus, which wants to destabilize the Middle East and pour refugees into Europe. | ||
| But that's not the ally of the American people. | ||
| That's not the ally of the people that voted for Donald Trump. | ||
| They're the ally of the people that are hunting down the Capitol rioters right now. | ||
| They're the ally of Biden, who, you know, kneels before them. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and you know, to me, it's like, I'm not, I'm not anti-semitic, I'm really not anti-Israel, but I don't like imperialism, and I don't like other countries, you know, our president bowing to their president. | ||
| I don't like that, and so, I don't know, it's funny to me to talk about that stuff, because I just treat Israel like any other country, and when you do that, it's like, wait, why is our president bowing to them? | ||
| Why are we giving them billions of dollars? | ||
| Like, what is it that we're getting out of this relationship? | ||
| I don't see it other than endless warfare in the Middle East. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| So anyway, there's still a lot of other stuff to talk about, and we're going to talk about some of the other. | ||
| I don't know what to call it. | ||
| Smears against you, I guess, that have been going around since that's been. | ||
| That's why your name has been popping up in the media so much recently with Paul Gosar and others. | ||
| We'll be back with Nicholas J. Fuentes on the other side. | ||
| Nick J. Fuentes is his Twitter account for now until he gets kicked off. | ||
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| American Journal final segment with Nick Fuentes. | ||
| NicholasJFuentes.com is the website. | ||
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| You brought up something I thought was really important and something that I try to talk about a lot anyway. | ||
| It's the Destruction of language. | ||
| And you brought up that Donald Trump no longer uses the word globalist. | ||
| He has replaced it with stuff like the far-left Democrats or other terms that might be similar to globalist, but he doesn't use the word globalist. | ||
| And I said my assumption was that people around him told him, no, globalist is anti-Semitic. | ||
| You can't say globalist because that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. | ||
| And so he said, all right, I don't want to insult the Jews. | ||
| I'm not going to use that term anymore. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Globalist does not mean Jew. | ||
| I'll say that a million times. | ||
| It absolutely does not. | ||
| But if you say that it does, then you can stop people from actually talking about the real ideology, which is a global, corporate, singular government overriding and eventually subsuming national governments. | ||
| That is a distinct ideology that's held by Christian or supposedly Christian, supposedly Jewish, supposedly Muslims, Bill Gates, Clintons, like these people aren't Jewish. | ||
| There are lots of Jews that aren't globalist. | ||
| So if you make that incorrect and improper association saying globalist is anti-Semitic so you can't talk about it, then you neuter the ability for us anti-globalist to discuss that idea. | ||
| If you can't talk about globalist, how are you supposed to oppose that idea? | ||
| It's a very effective defense, in my opinion, shielding their ideology from criticism. | ||
| So I thought that was a very good point. | ||
| I don't know if you wanted to expand on that or what you thought about that. | ||
| Yes, it's actually been very problematic because, you know, when Trump started to run in 2016, I think the reason people supported him was not because he was a Republican. | ||
| It was because he was calling out globalism. | ||
| He was talking about real problems. | ||
| The crisis on the border, the free trade, the de-industrialization of America. | ||
| And that's what started, I think, A cultural phenomenon. | ||
| That's why people who hadn't voted in years came out to vote for him. | ||
| I would imagine people who watch Infowars aren't totally partisan Republicans or partisan conservatives. | ||
| Hardly. | ||
| Partisan Republicans suck. | ||
| They're instruments of the national security apparatus and the deep state and all of that. | ||
| But people came out for Trump uniquely and rallied around him because he was not opposed to The nominal left, or the Democrats, or whatever, but he was against the elites. | ||
| He was against the decision-makers that are wrecking the country, and he said what they were. | ||
| Globalists, of which there are people that are transnational, post-national, anti-national, but people that reject America as a nation, or don't believe in nations at all, or don't believe that America should have sovereignty. | ||
| And now, you know, four years later, he goes up at a rally, I think he said globalist this past week like a couple days ago but i commented on his rally two weeks ago his first rally i think in sarasota and florida and he kept saying radical left democrats radical left democrats and i thought you know this is just pulling everybody back into the same partisan track exactly it's like sort of this pied piper effect where people who kind of understood what was at stake and the nature of this conflict and the two opposing sides which is the american regime | ||
| the globalist elites like i said, people against sovereignty and then the American people that want to keep our nation. | ||
| And now it's been obfuscated and obscured, and it's been brought into this old-school false conflict, this artificial conflict between the nominal left and the nominal right, between, you know, Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton, between George Bush and John Kerry, two sides of the same coin. | ||
| And so I think that, you know, if we're to support Trump in 2024, I don't know that I can if I don't see the Trump that I saw in 2016, you know, because I can't go out and support John McCain, Mitt Romney. | ||
| I can't support a generic Republican. | ||
| Generic Republicans aren't going to save our country because they're just as much as part of the problem as the left. | ||
| Right, and I mean, Donald Trump destroyed the Clintons and the Bushes. | ||
| I mean, he was a unique figure that was, you're right, he was targeting the political elites, and by forcing that discussion into a partisan divide, it neuters it of its revolutionary aspect. | ||
| Its revolutionary aspect was that it superseded this party divide, and that's what was neutered and forced him into the box that I agree just makes him sort of a useful tool. | ||
| I didn't know that he actually used the word globalist then, because again, in my opinion, And when I use it and, you know, my knowledge of the concept of globalism, it is a total lie that it means Jew. | ||
| It's just like, it's so stupid. | ||
| It's such a stupid concept and smear that they use, but it prevents people from actually talking about it. | ||
| And I think they do this with a lot of language. | ||
| Sometimes they do it in the opposite direction where they say nationalism is racism. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So you can't be a nationalist or else you're a racist. | ||
| People go, I'm not a racist, so I'm not a nationalist. | ||
| It's like, OK, well, now you've neutered the ability to actually be in be a nation and promote your national idea because now you're afraid to say that. | ||
| So the use of language, I think, is incredibly effective and they wield it incredibly effectively, which is really only possible because they have total control of our ability to get information out, except for places like InfoWars and yourself. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Well, and it's so true about nationalism kind of being the other side of that same coin, because you're right, they take that to mean, oh, it's some form of ethnic nationalism, it's white nationalism, it's white supremacy. | ||
| And I always tell people on my show when we talk about these kinds of issues, think about what's going on in the country. | ||
| It's millions of people. | ||
| Pouring into the country every year, illegally, legally. | ||
| It's a full-on demographic transformation. | ||
| If I say that this is out of control, if I say that this is radical, it's too much, you're too fast. | ||
| Then I'm suddenly having to defend, like, well, what is an American? | ||
| Is it only white people or something like that? | ||
| How about we're against the deliberate fundamental transformation of America on a fundamental demographic level? | ||
| I mean, isn't it enough to just say that? | ||
| And even with globalism, they say, oh, well, is that anti-Semitic? | ||
| Is it something like that? | ||
| How about we just call out the fact that there are thousands of elites in these coastal cities and media, multinational corporations, academia, and government who all know each other, all work together, all conspire together for concealed objectives, a concealed agenda, which is, you know, expressed through the pandemic, expressed through the election fraud, expressed through the big tech censorship, everything that we've seen for the past year. | ||
| You know, let's just talk frankly about what's going on. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| They always try to drag it back into, oh, well, that's something that is racist, anti-Semitic. | ||
| It's part of this area that you're not allowed to talk about, think about, ask questions about it. | ||
| And if you do, your career is over, even if you're a conservative. | ||
| Even right-wing people are afraid of those kinds of words. | ||
| You know, on the left, and right-wing people know this, they say, oh, well, the left calls everyone racist. | ||
| But then I go out and criticize the relationship with Israel, or I go out and say certain things, and they say, oh, well, this guy's anti-Semitic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This guy's got to be canceled. | ||
| We have to break all the forms of linguistic control and just be frank and honest about what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, I totally agree. | ||
| And to me, there's a consistency in believing that a people of a nation have a right to govern themselves and not be influenced by especially people who don't have their best interests in mind. | ||
| No country should have its population forcibly replaced through legal immigration, illegal immigration, whatever it is. | ||
| I don't want it done to America. | ||
| I wouldn't want it done to Mexico. | ||
| If there were a million Chinese people pouring into Mexico every year, I would go, that's pretty messed up, Mexico. | ||
| You should probably stop them from doing that. | ||
| But no, I'm racist now, apparently, because, you know, I think countries should have borders, which I think goes back to your point about Donald Trump being a revolutionary aspect. | ||
| In 2015, when Donald Trump first started running, I admit, I was watching too much The Daily Show, I guess, or whatever, thought it was racist. | ||
| I thought open borders was the libertarian perspective. | ||
| And it was only through Donald Trump championing these. | ||
| And then suddenly I started reading like, okay, why does he think this? | ||
| That's a pretty good point. | ||
| Why are we doing that? | ||
| Now, wait a second, this is bad. | ||
| And so I actually came around through the argumentation, changed my mind and realized that, no, this isn't about the freedom of people to move around and whatever the talking points are. | ||
| It's about demographic replacement. | ||
| It's about the destruction of the industry. | ||
| It's about bringing in voters. | ||
| It's about all this sort of stuff. | ||
| And now it's to the point that they're bringing more people are crossing per month than stormed the beaches at Normandy. | ||
| So, I mean, this is an invasion that's been ongoing for six months with no signs of slowing down whatsoever. | ||
| You're right, and Trump woke me up in the same way, because I was a libertarian in high school. | ||
| Well, I don't think you were in high school, but years ago, before the election... It took me a little longer, but I got around. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think it was different before the Trump moment, because it was a libertarian moment. | ||
| It was the Ron Paul revolution and all of that. | ||
| But I was a libertarian five years ago, whatever, when I was in high school and I looked at it the same way. | ||
| I'd never even thought of immigration. | ||
| I never even thought about demographics or race or anything like that. | ||
| And then the Trump election came around and specifically what woke me up was thinking about how is Trump going to win? | ||
| How is a Republican going to win? | ||
| Whether you supported Rand Paul or Ted Cruz or Trump, you looked at the electoral map and it seemed like over the past 30 years, fewer and fewer states are in play for Republicans. | ||
| California's not in play anymore. | ||
| You know, Colorado may not be in play. | ||
| Nevada's not in play. | ||
| Mexico's not in play. | ||
| Texas may not be in play with the number of illegal immigrants that are coming across. | ||
| Very soon. | ||
| And so I looked at the map and I was trying to put together the numbers for how any Republican could win the election. | ||
| And I said, gee, there's really not a clear path here. | ||
| I mean, we're going to have to pull off some kind of upset. | ||
| Trump wound up winning the Midwest, which I don't think many people thought was possible. | ||
| But then I looked at, well, who's voting and how are they voting? | ||
| The people that are pouring into the country are voting for Democrats. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, if you just look at a simple breakdown, what if White people voted. | ||
| What if only black people voted? | ||
| What if only Hispanic people voted? | ||
| It's very clear to see who's driving this electoral disaster for the Republican Party. | ||
| And what does that mean as a consequence? | ||
| Not just for the party, but for what the party represents. | ||
| This electoral disaster for the Constitution, for civil liberties, for libertarians, for conservatives, for nationalists. | ||
| It's being driven by the demographic change. | ||
| And so I saw that, and I could not unsee that. | ||
| I could not unsee that these people that are voting for the transformation of our country, there's more and more of them coming here every day in the states that we need to win to make the country the way that we want it to be. | ||
| Sick stuff, man. | ||
| I wish we had more time. | ||
| You're going to be on with Alex Jones in the next few hours, so stay tuned to InfoWars. | ||
| Nick Fuentes, Nicholas J. Fuentes. | ||
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You're tuned in to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| Watch it live right now at band.video. | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| Third hour of American Journal has begun. | ||
| I thank you so much for being here with us. | ||
| My guest this hour will be Gregory R. Copley. | ||
| And I have to say, he may be... Well... | ||
| I mean, he might have a little competition from some of our previous guests, but I'm going to come out and say he is probably the most distinguished guest we've ever had on this program. | ||
| I'm very, very excited to speak to him. | ||
| We're playing two men down right now. | ||
| Our crew is missing two people, so the crew is doing an excellent job. | ||
| We're scrambling behind the scenes. | ||
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| Help us to keep this crew, keep this infrastructure necessary, running, as well as to get the incredible guests that we have. | ||
| And with that, I would like to welcome to the program Gregory R. Copley. | ||
| Gregory Copley is president Of the International Strategic Studies Association, based in Washington, D.C., he's also the editor-in-chief of Defense and Foreign Affairs Publications and the Global Information System, an online encrypted access global intelligence service, which provides strategic current intelligence to governments. | ||
| Gregory Copley is author of or co-author of 36 books and several thousand articles, papers, and lectures on strategic issues and history. | ||
| A complete list of his books can be found on artoffictory.com, and more details of the ISSA can be found at strategicstudies.com. | ||
| Again, that's strategicstudies.org and artoffictory.com. | ||
| Thank you so much for coming on the show, Mr. Copley. | ||
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Delighted to be with you. | |
| Well, I'm very delighted that you're here. | ||
| We read this article of yours. | ||
| What would a U.S. | ||
| Civil War look like? | ||
| And usually, if I have somebody on that's just written an article, I go through and I try to underline maybe sentences that I want to point out and ask them about. | ||
| I don't know if you can see this on the camera. | ||
| I ended up pretty much highlighting the entire article. | ||
| I mean, there's not a line in this article that I don't want to, you know, focus on and ask you about. | ||
| It is really incredibly well done and has so much Beautiful insight in it. | ||
| I wonder if you could just tell us, in your own words, what you think a U.S. | ||
| civil war would look like and whether you think one is likely in the near future. | ||
| Well, yes, and I think we could even take a step back and ask what warfare in general will look like in the 21st century. | ||
| It is It's already begun this new form of amorphous warfare that we're seeing, and I highlighted that in a new book which just came out a few months ago called The New Total War of the 21st Century and the Trigger of the Fear Pandemic. | ||
| And it highlights that the margins, if you like, between civil war and Total global war are now very, very much blurred. | ||
| We're seeing societies polarizing and we're seeing international players taking advantage of these kinds of schisms and divisions. | ||
| So you could argue that a US civil war | ||
| Is in many respects already underway that doesn't mean it has to mirror the the late 19th century Civil war in the United States and in fact, it almost certainly would not but it does have a lot of the same underlying social causes It's partly the urbanism Urban populations versus regional populations, for example, and that was very much the | ||
| the trigger for the US Civil War in the 1860s. | ||
| And it is today because societies in regional and urban areas think very, very differently. | ||
| And now of course, the preponderance of US society lives in urban areas. | ||
| And as a result, they do think in an entirely different fashion and they do have the preponderance of the vote. | ||
| And they're gathered in very, very small geographic areas, whereas regional voters are scattered over wide areas. | ||
| We saw this, by the way, in the breakup of Yugoslavia, and particularly the breakup of Bosnia-Herzegovina in the 1990s. | ||
| There were massive complaints within particularly the U.S. media that the Serbs had somehow enslaved all of Bosnian society because they owned something like 65 percent or 85 percent of the land and had at least 30 percent of the people. | ||
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| And that's one of the words that we hear a lot these days is the balkanization of the United States. | ||
| We'll be right back with Gregory Copley. | ||
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You're watching the American Journal. | |
| Watch live right now at band.video. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to American Journal. | ||
| My name is Harrison Smith. | ||
| My guest is Gregory R. Copley. | ||
| He's president of the International Strategic Studies Association. | ||
| You can find his website strategicstudies.org or artofvictory.com. | ||
| And his newest book is called The New Total War of the 21st Century, available for sale now. | ||
| Mr. Copley, you were Make an interesting point there about the changing of the nature of warfare. | ||
| And it seems like war, in a general sense, went through a major change during the Cold War when you had two major superpowers that sort of couldn't face off with each other. | ||
| And so you saw the outbreak of proxy wars in its place all around the world in places like Afghanistan. | ||
| And it seems like now maybe that has morphed into another transformation. | ||
| Is it because of the technology that we now have? | ||
| The interconnectedness? | ||
| Is that what's driving it? | ||
| And what do you think the new form of war may look like? | ||
| Well, we have to look at the evolution of total war going back more to the 19th century and even late 18th century with Napoleon, where he would mobilize, Napoleon particularly, mobilized everything at his disposal against an adversary and in many respects became successful because of that. | ||
| Largely because he could mobilize all of French society, but he couldn't target all of his opponent societies. | ||
| World War One, we saw this massive mobilization of society and a lot of emphasis on civilian targeting or targeting of civilian infrastructure. | ||
| And that was when General Rudendorff, the German general, coined the phrase total war, although he didn't really understand it. | ||
| And it wasn't until about 1938 when Stefan Bassoni in Vienna came up with the concept of total war as being very much an economic situation. | ||
| And he wrote a book at that stage called, I can't remember what it was called in English, but it was basically a war about immobilizing the economies of all societies. | ||
| And World War II came to pass. | ||
| Now, with the advent of nuclear weapons and coupled with the global reach created by World War II supply chains and aircraft and ships and the like, You started to see the great fear that a third world war would come in the form of a nuclear war, which would be unsustainable in the manner in which it was postulated. | ||
| Well, that, of course, caused the proxy warfare diversion, if you like, and it forced societies, particularly the Soviet Union, to go into that approach where you're looking at Targeting every element of society you could, and particularly utilizing attacks on the minds of societies, getting to the weak points in societies and exploiting those, changing the way people think, dominating their will. | ||
| We keep forgetting that the only purpose of war is to dominate the will of your adversaries and your allies. | ||
| You want to impose your will to get what you need to survive. | ||
| So whether you launch bombers and warships and men across beaches to achieve that objective is, well, you can do that, but it's very expensive. | ||
| And the reality is, at the end of the day, you only want to dominate the environment so you control your own ability to survive. | ||
| So it's much cheaper, obviously, to do it by other means than conventional military war. | ||
| In the West, we've been conditioned to thinking that War is about uniformed military formations going head to head with other peer groups. | ||
| And in reality, that's that's totally antiquated. | ||
| And the Soviets recognize that, but too late. | ||
| They didn't have the economic resources. | ||
| The People's Republic of China, however, has embarked on this major war to get inside the societies of their adversaries and their friends to to change the way they think. | ||
| And as a result, Getting into and defeating the United States means getting into U.S. | ||
| society and supporting the divisions within society which we see, and not just in the U.S., but in the West generally. | ||
| The People's Republic of China came up with a doctrine in 1999 called unrestricted warfare, written by two senior colonels in the People's Liberation Army. | ||
| And that doctrine has been updated literally daily since that first publication. | ||
| And it entails very much using every aspect at your disposal, but primarily things which control human actions at a policy level. | ||
| You want to paralyse your target audience so they can't make decisions. | ||
| You want to create defeatism. | ||
| You want to break up their productivity and the like. | ||
| So basically, that's what's underway. | ||
| So you can't see the edges of a US domestic schism separately from something sponsored by Beijing in this instance. | ||
| But literally, it's an approach which all societies take. | ||
| In Russia, for example, in the middle of last year, a new national security law came into effect which said that the Russian general staff, the military, would be given the task of coordinating an all of society conduct of warfare in response to threats. | ||
| Now, that's all well and good. | ||
| But the kicker in this was not that the general staff got that job, but that the document said that 80% of warfare was now non-military, non-kinetic. | ||
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| The Chinese would say that it was 95, 98%. | ||
| And here we are in the West still thinking that we're going to throw our Marine Corps, our Army, our Air Force, Navy and so on into the teeth of a conventional war. | ||
| And we will wait until that war breaks out before committing those forces. | ||
| Well, the war is already underway, and it's been facilitated to a large extent by these polarisations in global society caused by urbanisation, a process which really got some momentum during and after World War II. | ||
| And that created a society which was really highly productive, highly wealthy. | ||
| But then that trend, which has lasted more than 70 years, has peaked. | ||
| So we're now going from a period of 70, 80 years of constant growth in population and economics and the like to imminent decline in economics and population and market size. | ||
| And that that makes people very, very nervous. | ||
| And when people get nervous, they start to rethink Where they are, they polarise into their groups, urban groups, rural groups and the like. | ||
| Nationalism versus globalism. | ||
| And this is an inevitable consequence. | ||
| And it happens periodically throughout history. | ||
| And it's underway right now. | ||
| So you've got, if you like, two gigantic forces, globalists versus nationalists, now coming into conflict because they each, one of the globalists think, We've got this wealthy society with all of these great achievements in human rights and the like, and now the nationalists are coming and jeopardizing that by wanting to retract into little America, little Britain, little Australia and the like. | ||
| And the reality is that each one is trying to hold on to their sense of identity and their sense of survival. | ||
| And this means that there is an inevitable clash. | ||
| We saw it in slow motion, if you like, in 1861 with the outbreak of the Civil War in North America. | ||
| Now we're seeing it on steroids and in high speed. | ||
| It's getting very, very interesting. | ||
| It is extremely interesting, and again, I suggest people find your article, What Would a U.S. | ||
| Civil War Look Like?, because you lay out a lot of this, and we'll talk about how this affects America itself, rather than the global warfare. | ||
| It does seem like war is constantly going through these big evolutionary changes. | ||
| And as you bring up Napoleon, I'm not sure if people know this, but prior to the French Revolution, most warfare in Europe was carried out by mercenary armies, small scale. | ||
| You'd have a few hundred people dead per battle. | ||
| After the French Revolution, you had what you called a people in arms. | ||
| And Napoleon would actually go out and draft tens of thousands of people to the point that he was once quoted by saying, I spend 30,000 lives in a day. | ||
| So it massively scaled up. | ||
| how warfare was carried out. | ||
| And it seems like every time one of these evolutions occurs, it's whoever's most capable at dealing with that latest evolution and most capable of taking advantage of these new technologies, I guess you could say, usually comes out on top. | ||
| Although in Napoleon's case, I guess he was outdone by the, he was outflanked by the British Navy. | ||
| But when we get back on the other side, I'd like to ask specifically about this article. | ||
| What a U.S. | ||
| Civil War would look like, and some very cogent points you make about urban globalists versus the more rural populations of America and how these two factors interact and deal with each other. | ||
| Very brilliant stuff. | ||
| You say, urban globalists control most of the means of communications, which is the new means of production. | ||
| 21st century Marxian dialectic and therefore they control the information and the perception of events. | ||
| In other words, it's an information war and we're fighting it. | ||
| and we'll be back with Gregory Copley. | ||
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| My guest is Gregory R. Copley, president of the International Studies Association. | ||
| His latest book is called The New Total War of the 21st Century, but he was just telling me during the break, this is actually the latest in a series of books that began with The Art of Victory in 2006 and moved on to several other titles as he sort of, I guess, laid the academic framework of this idea of the new form of warfare, which takes a amorphous and less direct sort of establishment. | ||
| I want to read a statement here from this article called What Would a U.S. Civil War Look Like? | ||
| You say simply it will appear as evolving chaos. | ||
| The next U.S. | ||
| Civil War, though it may be arrested to a degree by the formal hand of centralized government, it will destabilize many other nations, including the People's Republic of China. | ||
| And you go on to talk about the election of President Donald Trump, as well as the election of, or the voting for Brexit in 2016. | ||
| And you say in both instances, the election of Mr. Trump and the decision by UK voters for Britain to exit the European Union were late reactions, perhaps too late, By the last-ditch reaction by those who voted in the U.S. | ||
| for Donald Trump and those who voted in the U.K. | ||
| for Brexit were against an urban-based globalism that has been building for some seven decades with the deliberate or accidental intent of destroying nations and nationalism. | ||
| It's now crystallizing into this. | ||
| Urban globalism sees nations and nationalism as the enemy and vice versa. | ||
| I just thought that was so well put, sir, and I wonder if you could expand on that. | ||
| Well, thanks for reminding me, Harrison. | ||
| I'd actually forgotten I'd written that article in 2017. | ||
| So here we are, four years later, and it looks prescient. | ||
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| Hopefully it was. | ||
| But the reality is that you could see that this is the only way that warfare can evolve. | ||
| People are reluctant to come out and commit against each other in direct terms, so they're working indirectly. | ||
| And that's one of the things about warfare these days. | ||
| It is all of society. | ||
| So and we see it in in life throughout the United States and throughout Britain and Australia and the like There are people you found that you can no longer talk to because they either shut down completely or they erupt that in fear They resort to cliches and by the way, we resort to cliches on all sides of arguments. | ||
| So that's not necessarily an insult. | ||
| It's it's it's our first If you like, line of defense. | ||
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Human nature, perhaps. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| But what's happening is that we are polarizing. | ||
| We are in a form of chaos. | ||
| That chaos does not seem to be diminishing. | ||
| And the way in which we see people saying, well, let's unite, let's end the chaos, is to come up with more draconian forms of suppression of individual thought. | ||
| In other words, we go to a period of greater political correctness. | ||
| And political correctness is also an automatic response to societal survival. | ||
| There are a couple of great books which I'd commend to your readers, not mine, one called The Crowd by Gustave Le Bon, which came out in the late 1800s. | ||
| And that talks about mass psychology and why crowds do the things that they do, and an even better one called Crowds and Power, Mass und Macht, as it originally was called, by Elias Kennedy. | ||
| And that came out in 1964, I think, and won the Nobel Prize for Literature, a real Nobel Prize, in other words. | ||
| And that talks about Why people need to move in groups in order to and have groupthink in order to survive. | ||
| And this is why women's dresses, if they're the right length, they indicate some form of OK, you're in or you're out of the in crowd. | ||
| And it's a way of keeping tabs on Who is with you and who's not with you? | ||
| And social mores fall into this category as well. | ||
| And the more desperate and the more polarized societies become, the more you need to know who's with you and who's against you. | ||
| And that's defined by forms of speech, forms of dress and the like, and of course locations. | ||
| So basically, we're seeing this political correctness going through an extreme acceleration because it's based on fear, as all fashion is. | ||
| It's a form of, if you like, management through fear, fear of being left out. | ||
| And that's where we are today. | ||
| So it's going to get worse. | ||
| And what we are now seeing, of course, in the last literally recent weeks, is that there is now being a pushback against wokeness, which had basically been sweeping over people, people which had basically been sweeping over people, people saying, well, how come I can't use this word or that word anymore? | ||
| Or this person is popular and this person is all of a sudden out of favour. | ||
| There are now people saying, enough of this nonsense. | ||
| We're going to stop it now. | ||
| The process has a long way to go, and we're seeing it particularly starting with over the last 18 months or so with the destruction of statues. | ||
| And that's continuing to go on today. | ||
| So you had a situation in Canada where you had in Winnipeg, you had statues of Queen Victoria, for example, toppled and damaged. | ||
| Their response to that was that the new Governor-General of Canada is going to be an Inuit woman, highly capable by the way, and a great choice of Governor-General, but there was no question that her selection as the new Governor-General of Canada was based on the fact that she was Uh, politically correct. | ||
| She represented, if you like, the minorities of Canada, and certainly they need to be addressed. | ||
| And most Canadians do appreciate that. | ||
| But so this was a safe bet. | ||
| You can see how public actions drive policy. | ||
| And we see this all the time. | ||
| We see it in the way nations conduct war. | ||
| We saw the overthrow of the Shah of Iran driven by US media perceptions which changed overnight and the Shah himself couldn't understand. | ||
| We see it right now with the way the United States is pushing for conflict along the Nile River between Ethiopia and Egypt and Sudan. | ||
| This is all about media-driven perceptions which are very shallow but very, quote, politically correct. | ||
| Right, and very convincing in many cases, I think, to a lot of people. | ||
| We'll finish off the segment here with another quote from this article, which I guess, yeah, we must have missed. | ||
| It was from 2017, because it seems like you could have written it yesterday. | ||
| It's just as pertinent now as it was then, I suppose. | ||
| But you say this, in some respects, it is a conflict between people with long memories, even if those memories are flawed and selective, and people to whom memories and history are irrelevant. | ||
| Equally, it is a conflict between identity and materialism, with the abstract social groups, the urban populations, the most preoccupied with short-term material gain. | ||
| And I think that's incredibly true, and I think that is a lot of what we're dealing with here, and I think that's sort of embodied in a lot of cases with the destruction of the statues. | ||
| Perhaps a form of soft warfare, you would say. | ||
| In fact, history makes most urban people very, very nervous. | ||
| They don't want to know about history because it means that they have to really think about it and maybe they have to even justify That might be the message we need to get to some academics here in America. | ||
| You cannot destroy history by pretending it doesn't exist. | ||
| Very well said. | ||
| Gregory R. Copley is my guest. | ||
| We'll be right back on the other side with American Journal. | ||
| We need to get to some academics here in America. | ||
| You cannot destroy history by pretending it doesn't exist. | ||
| Very well said. | ||
| Gregory R. Copley is my guest. | ||
| We'll be right back on the other side with American Journal. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
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You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith. | |
| The Kidney. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to American Journal. | ||
| My name is Harrison Smith, your regular viewer of the show. | ||
| You know, I like history. | ||
| I like military history. | ||
| As such, I'm greatly enjoying our conversation with Gregory R. Copley, and I hope you are as well. | ||
| You can find his website at artofvictory.com or strategicstudies.org, and he has a great many books available for your Enjoyment including his latest which is the new total war of the 21st century now. | ||
| We've been talking a little bit about the specter the prospect of Civil war here in America, but let's expand a little bit to the global geopolitical machinations that are occurring as we speak. | ||
| We're talking a little bit about this during the break, and so I'll sort of reiterate. | ||
| I have the feeling that China doesn't want war with America because they're winning already. | ||
| In my opinion, the last thing they want is an actual physical army-to-army conflict with anybody because it seems like their economic efforts are making such great gains that they would want to continue on that regard. | ||
| But then Mr. Copley corrected me saying that actually China may be not as strong as they're projecting out to be, which I guess I should have guessed. | ||
| But perhaps you can help us explain where help explain to us where China is right now and how they maybe see the world or just everything with that. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, I think we start with the premise that I think one German general again said in the 19th century, which was no plan of campaign survives the first shot. | ||
| In other words, you never know how a war is going to turn out once you start it, or a battle. | ||
| So everything is thrown up in the air. | ||
| I think Mike Tyson said, everybody has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. | ||
| A similar thought. | ||
| Same deal. | ||
| And there's no question that the People's Liberation Army leadership and Xi Jinping himself have studied World War II. | ||
| They've studied the Japanese experience in World War II. | ||
| They've studied the collapse of the Soviet Union during the Cold War and the like. | ||
| So they understand the risks inherent. | ||
| They also understand the risks of nuclear war. | ||
| They understand, you know, where they have advantages in the nuclear realm and in the cyber realm in particular. | ||
| But they looked at what could occur in going to war with the United States. | ||
| And they saw Japan. | ||
| Japan did its absolute utmost to deter the United States from coming out into open warfare with the United States. | ||
| But on December 6, 1941, The Imperial Japanese Navy did its most extreme reach. | ||
| It went into Pearl Harbor, did immense damage, not enough damage quite clearly. | ||
| And they hoped from that that they would deter the US. | ||
| Now, the reality was that if the Japanese could have reached into Washington DC or into the productive heartlands of the United States, its agricultural output, its industrial output, and knocked all of that capability out, then that's what they would have done. | ||
| Because that would be the only way they could guarantee that the United States did not respond the way it did, which was to say, oh hell no, we're not going to put up with this, and went to war. | ||
| So, Today, the People's Republic of China and others have the capacity to reach into that industrial, economic heartland and core of the West and the United States in a way which Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany never did. | ||
| And that's with cyber warfare and other forms of warfare, including psychological warfare. | ||
| They're paralyzing Western societies. | ||
| They can turn off the major electrical grids of the United States and keep them turned off for a matter of weeks. | ||
| If they do that, that's the game over. | ||
| That's the collapse of the United States. | ||
| However, that does not mean the rise of the People's Republic of China. | ||
| People's Republic of China will rise and fall on issues which are not related to the United States being the great superpower or not. | ||
| Well, in some ways they do. | ||
| The People's Republic of China has about 20% of the world's population and 7% of the world's water. | ||
| Most of that water is polluted. | ||
| They cannot therefore grow food to sustain their population. | ||
| And as they urbanize, and they've gone in the last 25-30 years from about a 25% urbanization of their population to now about 58% of their population urbanized and growing by the day, urban populations require more water than rural populations. | ||
| They not only use it for bathing and cooking and the like, and for drinking, but they demand foods which are highly water intensive, like cattle, pork, even chickens. | ||
| And so the result is that we see the People's Republic of China today is more dependent on imported food, existentially dependent on imported food, in a way which we have not seen in history since the collapse of the Roman Empire. | ||
| So that's an immense risk which we're seeing taken by the People's Republic of China. | ||
| Now, the Communist Party of China understood this, but they thought, well, we'll get wealthy first and then we'll solve the food problem. | ||
| Well, there's still a long way from solving the food problem. | ||
| Today, if the United States collapses or ceases to provide food to the People's Republic of China, then millions die within weeks. | ||
| Okay, this is profound. | ||
| The Communist Party of China has searched the world for alternate food supplies. | ||
| Australia, Russia, Europe, Brazil and elsewhere in Africa. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| Which is why in that January 2019 trade deal we said with the United States, they not only capitulated to all of the terms which Donald Trump laid out, but said, no, we want double the agreed amount of food from the United States, because they understood that this was how they would survive. | ||
| So war with the United States would automatically cut off food supply, that's one thing. | ||
| The second thing is, of course, that although they have developed the People's Liberation Army to a high degree of capability, I mean, really impressive, and that's the result of wealth They still haven't been able to break out of the first island chain. | ||
| In other words, they need to get past Taiwan. | ||
| And they can't invade Taiwan without triggering a major war, which would involve not only Japan and possibly the United States, but almost certainly would involve India, because India would not hesitate at that stage to launch the war it's been waiting to wage against China, the People's Republic of China. | ||
| That is, look, in 2019 the Indian army put a million troops into Kashmir, which was an autonomous part of India. | ||
| They broke the Indian constitution to do that, ostensibly to go after terrorists, but you don't need a million troops to go after terrorists. | ||
| They put those troops there so that they could cut across The the top, if you like, of Kashmir into Pakistan occupied Kashmir and across over to Afghanistan and Central Asia, that would do two things. | ||
| Firstly, it would cut off China's land bridge down from the from mainland China down to the Indian Ocean through the through Kashmir and Pakistan. | ||
| And secondly, it would give the the Chinese the ability to go up into Central Asia and flank China in Central Asia, which is something that Beijing has been anxious to avoid. | ||
| So there's no way that Beijing can afford to risk this. | ||
| If it's going to take over Taiwan, it's going to have to do it by other means. | ||
| And everything is failing. | ||
| When they were forced to go into crackdown in Hong Kong, that was the end of any chance of the Taiwanese people agreeing to a peaceful takeover of their country by the mainland. | ||
| And of course, within all this, the Communist Party of China cannot claim victory or legitimacy because they didn't win the civil war. | ||
| They didn't eliminate the Republic of China. | ||
| And the Communist Party and the People's Republic of China did not take on the debts and obligations of imperial China. | ||
| So they don't have actually legal and legitimate standing in the world community. | ||
| It's all bluster at this stage. | ||
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And their centenary speech of Xi Jinping I have to say, you're saying things that I do not hear on mainstream media, or any media for that matter, that's actually making me think it's not quite as bad as it's perceived in other cases. | |
| This is kind of a white-pilling, reinvigorating interview. | ||
| I'm very happy about this. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to American Journal. | ||
| Final segment for us here today. | ||
| Please go to Infowarsstore.com to support everything that we do here, including getting the great guest that we get. | ||
| My guest today is Gregory R. Copley. | ||
| He's the president of the International Strategic Studies Association based in Washington, D.C. | ||
| Their website is strategicstudies.org. | ||
| Or you can go to his website, artofvictory.com, and I will be going there after the show today, because I am definitely very interested in picking up some of your books, sir, including the newest one, The New Total War of the 21st Century. | ||
| I've learned so much in just our, you know, hour-long conversation here. | ||
| I can't wait to dig into one of your books and find out what wisdom awaits me. | ||
| Now, we were talking about India and China a little while ago, and sort of Reinvigorating my hope for the future because I sort of tend to focus on the negative aspects of maybe global politics or geopolitics and global conflict. | ||
| But what you're pointing out is it's not that simple. | ||
| You can't just focus on those things. | ||
| You have to take everything into account. | ||
| And one of the things you have to take into account is China's inability to feed itself. | ||
| an inability to have enough water to support its population. | ||
| And so the question came up from my producer, Matt, uh, would they attack India for water? | ||
| And this is something, this is an idea that we've heard about for a long time. | ||
| Water wars. | ||
| Is, is water going to be the, the catalyst here for a next big, uh, global war? | ||
| Well, yes, it already is. | ||
| Uh, But we only have to look at the Egypt-Ethiopia dispute, which is underway right now, to see how critical that is and that it's going on elsewhere in the world as well. | ||
| Let me preface it by saying that a collapse of the People's Republic of China does not mean a triumph necessarily for the United States. | ||
| What we're seeing right now in the West is a psychological war which was begun by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union during the Cold War. | ||
| They were massing a very professional global campaign against the rest of the world and it was very successful and it's and has led us largely to the kind of thinking we're seeing In the polarization of societies in the West today. | ||
| Now the Soviet Union collapsed, so ultimately the strategy didn't work. | ||
| But we can see that the results of this war going on today and affecting us. | ||
| Now when it comes to the water and the water wars between the People's Republic of China and India, it's actually even broader and more complex than that. | ||
| But the key to it is the fact that People's Republic of China in 1950 invaded Tibet and controls the vast Tibetan plateau, the roof of the world. | ||
| And that roof of the world literally controls the source of the great rivers going into China and going down into India and down into Southeast Asia. | ||
| So you see the Mekong River, the Yangtze, the Yellow, the Brahmaputra River, the Indus and all that all have their sources up there in areas already controlled by the People's Republic of China, which is why The Beijing or the Communist Party of China is so adamant in its persecution of the Tibetans and the Dalai Lama. | ||
| So this is this is highly critical. | ||
| We tend to think of this as a cultural kind of conflict. | ||
| And we concentrate on, if you like, the persecution of the Uyghurs. | ||
| But the reality is that the persecution of the Tibetans is a strategic core of the survival of the PRC. | ||
| Now, the Indians have been using the controls of some of these waterways and particularly some of the supplies going down into the Indus Valley to try to paralyze Pakistan. | ||
| So India has been running its own water wars against Pakistan, which it also sees as, by the way, part of its war against the People's Republic of China. | ||
| So one thing's for sure, Beijing is not about to try to trigger a physical war with India over the control of the Tibetan plateau or access there. | ||
| We've seen the small conflict occur in the last few months between India and Indian troops and PLA troops are high up, you know, over 14,000 feet. | ||
| This is very difficult terrain. | ||
| Nobody wants to fight a war in that territory, but they will defend their borders between each other at that point. | ||
| No, what will happen is India will look for an excuse to go to war, quote, against Pakistan. | ||
| In other words, to invade Pakistan-controlled Azad Kashmir and cut across, as your map just showed, the aircraft going across the top of Kashmir over to Afghanistan, which would build a land bridge to Afghanistan and give India access to Central Asia, which it has been denied. | ||
| For all of the existence of independent India. | ||
| So India is looking for an excuse to go to war. | ||
| So the PRC is pulling back from that. | ||
| That's why they pulled back really rapidly after that clash a few months ago up in the mountains. | ||
| So they're not going to go to war unless they have to. | ||
| And really it's a war which India is better equipped with manpower, even aircraft and the like, to win. | ||
| Meanwhile, Beijing is trying to find other ways down into the Indian Ocean. | ||
| It's looking to reinvigorate its links through Myanmar, Burma, which when the generals capitulated a couple of years during the Obama administration and said, we want to get rid of the Chinese influence and we want to go with the West. | ||
| And ironically, We saw Secretary of State Hillary Clinton start threatening and lecturing the Burmese generals, the Myanmar generals, at the time saying, well, you better behave, you better do what we want and the like, instead of saying, oh, thank you very much. | ||
| This is great because it stops the People's Liberation Army from having direct access down through Myanmar, which borders China, down into the Indian Ocean, which gives China a lot of its global reach. | ||
| So the reality is that What the West needs to start doing is tolerating, if you like, the instabilities and difficulties in Myanmar at the moment, but not allowing the PLA to get that new access back there. | ||
| And also, they need to start looking at how do you help Pakistan so that it is not dependent on the People's Republic of China for its defense against India, because the Indians literally are very happy to see Pakistan wiped off the map. | ||
| And we've abandoned Pakistan about five times now. | ||
| So it's going to start to get interesting. | ||
| but the reality. | ||
| It is already very interesting. | ||
| I mean, this is like the most interesting game of Risk you've ever seen play. | ||
| And let's talk a little bit about, just in the last few minutes here, the soft power of China. | ||
| I know that's their real push. | ||
| And I have this article here from last year, actually, August of last year. | ||
| China tells Australia to accept foreign influence to earn economic affluence. | ||
| I think that kind of sums up their strategy in total, doesn't it? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And in fact, that polarized Australian society to a large degree, because a lot of Australia's wealth from exports comes from this sale of particularly iron ore, and it was coal and other commodities, to the PRC. | ||
| If that gets cut off, then Australia gets poor overnight. | ||
| This is because the Australian big mining companies BHP and Rio Tinto actually rejected advice I gave them 20 years ago not to put all their eggs in the China basket. | ||
| And they said, no, no, this is growth for the next 50 years. | ||
| And the reality is, firstly, the PRC cannot cut off Australia from its iron ore supplies at this stage, because They can't replace them from any other source, not Brazil, not Africa at this stage. | ||
| So it's a bluff in a sense there. | ||
| But again, in Xi Jinping's centenary speech a few days ago, he did say that Australia would be one of the first countries targeted by PRC nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles in the event of a conflict, or if Australia came to the aid of Taiwan or the Republic of China. | ||
| The reality is that this is bluster, and the more that Xi Jinping blusters, the more we know that he's feeling frustrations. | ||
| And, in fact, he's almost desperate at the moment. | ||
| They've run out of money in the PRC of hard currency. | ||
| So the Belt and Road Initiative is no longer being fully funded. | ||
| The Chinese domination of Africa is now receding as rapidly as it took place. | ||
| And basically, when the Obama administration walked away from Africa, China walked in. | ||
| They were given a free continent, if you like. | ||
| But they're now losing that continent, except in a couple of areas where they're putting Uh oh, we uh, we froze up but uh... | ||
| Yeah, no, that's very interesting. | ||
| And of course, it makes sense. | ||
| You need the Belt and Road Initiative in order to perhaps create supply chains outside of Australian America so they could then maybe fulfill some of their bluster in that regard. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Incredibly fascinating. | ||
| Incredibly interesting. | ||
| Gregory R. Copley is my guest. | ||
| The New Total War of the 21st Century is his latest book. | ||
| His website's, once again, strategicstudies.org and artofvictory.com. | ||
| Thank you so much for coming on, Mr. Copley. | ||
| I would love to have you on again. | ||
| Very soon. | ||
| To talk more about this. | ||
| Delighted. | ||
| Thank you, Harrison. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I really do appreciate it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Really amazing stuff, folks. | ||
| Strategicstudies.org. | ||
| Artofvictory.com. | ||
| The newest book is the new Total War of the 21st Century. | ||
| I'll be digging into that and learning quite a bit, I think. | ||
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