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unidentified		You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
		Watch it live right now at band.video.
		This report previously undisclosed until now.
		The National Desk's James Rosen joins us this morning.
		And James, you broke the story wide open.
		What did you find?
		Jan, good morning.
		With COVID-19 still raging in various parts of the world and far from vanquished here in the United States, identifying the origin of the virus.
		This devastating virus remains of paramount concern to scientists across the globe.
		Our story this morning concerns an effort by some of the most highly qualified scientists who work for the federal government to pinpoint the origin of COVID-19 and the reactions that their classified report provoked across the national security apparatus.
		On May 27 of last year, scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, the Department of Energy's premier biodefense research institution, produced a report classified at the top secret level that assessed as plausible the theory that COVID-19 originated in a Chinese laboratory.
		That's according to multiple officials who have either seen the report or been briefed on its contents and described them to Sinclair.
		Justin Jacobs is a China scholar at American University and author of Compensations of Plunder, How China Lost Its Treasures.
		There is going to be no way to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt, but it does seem to confirm that high-level U.S.
		intelligence suggests that this is, at least at a minimum, a plausible scenario that should not be dismissed out of hand.
		Indeed, the Livermore report was produced by Z-Division, the lab's intelligence unit.
		Livermore spokesperson Linda Seaver confirmed the report's existence, telling Sinclair in an email, because the report you're referring to is classified, it would be inappropriate for our lab to discuss this.
		Chairman Schiff, At the House Intelligence Committee two weeks ago, the Director of National Intelligence said the U.S.
		is still examining, quote, two plausible theories.
		One of them is that it was a laboratory accident, and the other is that it emerged naturally from human contact with infected animals.
		We're looking at exactly where it came from.
		A year ago, when the Z Division study was still a work in progress, President Trump aligned himself firmly with the lab origin theory.
		The Washington Post reported that State Department officials who visited the lab in 2018 cabled back to Washington that they had observed poor safety protocols there.
		The dual use of China's experiments with coronaviruses has in turn divided proponents of the lab origin theory into two main camps.
		Both camps believe COVID-19 accidentally leaked from WIV personnel, but one camp attributes the accident to legitimate medical research, the other to prohibited biological weapons research.
		China denies the virus somehow leaked from one of its biotech labs.
		Instead, Beijing suggests, in tandem with the World Health Organization, whose on-site probe and final report were tightly controlled by the government of Xi Jinping, that a zoonotic theory is likeliest.
		This theory holds the virus leaped from a bat to a human, or went through an intermediate host, such as another animal, at one of the so-called wet food markets in Wuhan.
		...where many early cases were traced.
		The joint WHO-China team, however, acknowledged it could find no intermediate host.
		Dozens of thousands of animals were tested and all negative.
		Asked about the Z Division report, Republican Congressman Michael McCaul of Texas, ranking member on the Foreign Affairs Committee, Declined to comment on classified material, but said in a statement to Sinclair, this is why it's crucial the WHO conduct an independent investigation, not one that is tainted by the Chinese Communist Party's malign influence, unquote.
		Jan?
		James, I've got to ask you about this unit from the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory that produced this top-secret report, the Z Division.
		You know, it sounds like something out of the X-Files.
		Tell us more about this office.
		Well yes, the Z Division, as we mentioned in the report, is the intelligence unit of Lawrence Livermore.
		Its name is unfamiliar to most Americans, and indeed even to many inside the U.S.
		intelligence community.
		The unit was created in 1965, chiefly to study Soviet nuclear programs.
		In more recent years, according to experts that we consulted, Z Division has expanded its focus to include the study of biological and chemical warfare programs in other countries, and how to develop vaccines and other defenses against them, Jan.
		Alright, Sinclair investigative reporter James Rosen with a bombshell story this Monday morning.
		Thanks for joining us.
		Thank you.
		You're tuned in to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
		Watch it live right now at Band.Video.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified		It is the 4th of May, 2021.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Very exciting edition of American Journal this morning on Infowars.com and Band.Video.
		I'll be joined by Mike Shelby, an intelligence expert.
		And the founder and operator of Forward Observer, a private threat intelligence firm focusing on low-intensity conflict.
		And that will be the watchword of the day.
		Low-intensity conflicts.
		And the low-intensity conflict that we ourselves are engaged in here in America.
		You've heard of the boiling water theory, right?
		They've got that.
		Stove set on low heat, but nevertheless the bubbles are starting to form.
		The water is starting to boil.
		We'll get into that with Mike Shelby.
		But first, let's start, as we always do, with our daily dispatch, shall we?
		Here it is, folks, your daily dispatch for the 4th of May, 2021.
		Mexico City subway overpass collapses, killing at least 23 and injuring dozens.
		At least 70 people have been hospitalized, 7 of whom are in serious condition, officials added.
		The train was traveling on an elevated part of the city's rapid transit system on the newest Line 12, also known as the Golden Line, when part of the overpass collapsed onto traffic below.
		Mexico's Secretariat of Risk Management and Civil Protection said in the footage of this is rather shocking as we see the elevated train track collapse onto the traffic below.
		Really incredible stuff.
		That happened at 10.25 p.m.
		local time last night and they're still cleaning it up.
		Devastating stuff there.
		Moving on to American news, Biden team may partner with private firms to monitor extremist chatter online.
		We covered this yesterday, but I figured I'd throw it in here again because it is of such immense importance.
		The Biden administration is considering using outside firms to track extremist chatter by Americans online, an effort that would expand the government's ability to gather intelligence, but could draw criticism over surveillance of US citizens.
		Yes, folks, this is the fascist totalitarian state.
		The intelligence networks combining with big tech, big media, and the rest of the government to create a total digital panopticon watching your every move at every second of the day.
		Coming just in time for the vaccine passports, meaning that nothing you do, say, or attempt to engage in will be Not surveilled.
		Everything.
		Everything will be surveilled and judged by how loyal you are to the ruling regime.
		We'll get more into that later in the program.
		China mocks India in a social media post prompting backlash.
		According to a CNN report, an account linked to the Central Commission for Political and Legal Affairs posted a photo on the microblogging platform Weibo.
		Comparing the Chinese Long March 5B carrier rocket to photos of cremation pyres burning at night in India under the watch of people in hazmat suits, suits a caption read, China lighting a fire versus India lighting a fire, which went along with a hashtag pointing to India's rising number of COVID-19 cases.
		I don't know if we've made this abundantly clear, but the Chinese communists are the human embodiment of evil.
		I'm not sure if we've made that clear yet.
		But a little bit ironic that they have China lighting a fire versus India lighting a fire, mocking India lighting funeral pyres while showing a picture of the Long March 5B carrier rocket.
		Because China is just so good at building rockets, right?
		Meanwhile, here's an article from today.
		Chinese rocket falling back to Earth in uncertain path.
		It's potentially not good.
		A massive Chinese rocket is expected to make an uncontrollable reentry to Earth this week, and experts have no clue where its remnants will land.
		The roughly 100-foot tall core of the Long March 5B rocket launched the 22.5-ton Heavenly Harmony unmanned space station module.
		It's separated from the launcher and entered the planned initial orbit, but the core stage is likely to make an uncontrolled reentry in the thickening atmosphere.
		It's potentially not good, says Jonathan McDowell, astrophysicist at the Astrophysics Center at Harvard University.
		Last time they launched a Long March 5B rocket, they ended up with big long rods of metal flying through the sky and damaging several buildings in the Ivory Coast.
		Maybe that's what China was talking about when they were mocking India.
		They're like, see, India burns their dead in funeral pyres.
		But when we light a fire, we send massive flaming wreckage somewhere on Earth, unknown.
		Just massive, flaming, poisonous wreckage careening down onto Earth.
		That's what China gets up to.
		Good job, boys.
		Uh, Joe Biden has announced that he is revising the United States annual refugee admissions cap to 62,500 for the fiscal year.
		This erases the historically low number set by the previous administration of 15,000.
		He says it is the move in the natural interest of Mexico.
		I'm sorry, of the United States.
		62,500.
		So that should cover all of the refugees who made it across the border in the first week of March.
		So there you go.
		All the other weeks of the year, well, they'll just be excess.
		Perfect.
		Healthcare and Pharmaceuticals announced, the USFDA announced, or set to announce next week, Pfizer COVID-19 shots for ages 12 through 15.
		That's right, adolescents aged 12 through 15 will be able to get the vaccine.
		They plan to announce this next week.
		Now, whether parents will know about this, yet to be seen.
	Maybe they'll administer it at schools without informing the parents.
	After all, they know better than you.
	But clearly, you know, the number of Americans refusing to get the shots is inordinately high.
	They didn't expect that.
	So, of course, children weren't easy to convince to get this sort of thing.
	So perhaps that's why they're going after it.
	Bill and Melinda Gates announced their divorce after 27 years of marriage.
	Oh dear.
	After a great deal of thought and a lot of work on our relationship, we've made the decision to end our marriage.
	The statement reads, over the last 27 years, we've raised three incredible children and built a foundation that works all over the world to depopulate the planet.
	I'm sorry, to enable all people to lead healthy, productive lives.
	If there's one thing sadder than Bill Gates, decrepit old nerd, eating his chemical synthetic steak with a side of maggot stew, taking a big gulp from his poop water, is that he'll now be doing it alone.
	Oh, oh goodness me.
	According to Forbes.com, Canada will require using a vaccine passport for entry.
	Adding yet another item to my list of reasons not to visit Canada.
	Biden receives the least negative press coverage of any president.
	This according to the Washington Times.
	President Biden has received the least negative coverage from the mainstream media in his first day's office than any other president who Pew Research has studied.
	He received only 19% negative assessment compared to Donald Trump's 62% negative assessment.
	That's right, Joe Biden, the least negative press conference coverage of any president Probably because he's doing such a good job.
	Probably because everything is going so well.
	That's probably what it is.
	Probably has nothing to do with the fact that our mainstream media is engaged in a fascistic, totalitarian cabal with the intelligence agencies who installed Joe Biden.
	Certainly that's not it.
	It's because he's so good at being president.
	It's because nothing has happened to bring any sort of doubt as to his capability What a creepy old puppet we have in office today.
	New York City faces a spike in shootings and sees a massive year-to-date increase over 2020 and 2019.
	The New York Post reported that the year-to-date data indicates that the quantity of shootings has skyrocketed by 83.3%.
	compared to 2020, and 93.5% compared to 2019.
	Year to year, the number of murders and shootings in New York has just about doubled.
	Absolutely incredible.
	Darn it, COVID!
	Oh, it's that COVID again!
	The mayor has to stop blaming COVID for people shooting each other, says an NYP supervisor in Manhattan.
	Oh, it's that COVID, you know?
	People get the sniffles and they just go out and start shooting each other.
	It has nothing to do with...
	With the police department has nothing to do with the violent crime spiraling out of control on the back of all of this incendiary rhetoric from the mainstream media.
	No, it's COVID!
	Because of course it is.
	You know what'll stop the massive doubling in violent crimes in your city?
	Vaccine passports!
	Hey, if you believe everything else they're selling you, why not that, right?
	You're dumb, aren't you?
	Believe me, you're dumb.
unidentified		Hello, we're back.
		Look at that.
		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It's the American Journal on importwars.com and Vans.video.
		We're going to continue with our daily dispatch, as it is a sizable one today.
		I can either get in all the headlines, or I can get in half the headlines and a couple of snarky jokes.
		So I went with the latter, and now we'll extend our daily dispatch for just a little bit here.
		Boosted by stimulus checks, immigrants send a record amount of cash to Mexico.
		That's right, folks.
		Mexican workers outside the country sent more back to Mexico in March than any other previous month on record.
		Remittances from the roughly 12 million Mexican workers living abroad climbed to $4.15 billion, 2.6% higher than March 2020 and 31% higher than February, according to new Central Bank data.
		Analysts say the increase is attributable in part to stimulus checks provided by President Joe Biden in Congress as part of his COVID-19 relief packages.
		That's right, folks.
		Here in our darkest hour, under a total pandemic, lockdown, shutdown, emergency situation, the government takes your money and sends it to Mexico.
		So even though something like 9% of the COVID stimulus actually went to checks to the American people, we didn't realize that a chunk of that 9% was actually being sent to Mexicans within the United States borders that then sent that money to Mexico.
		Fantastic.
		Aren't you so glad our government is there to do all these important things?
		I mean, who would send our money to Mexico if not the United States government?
		And that's just one of the many services they provide.
		Busing Mexicans to your neighborhood is another vital aspect of American government that I think is included in the preamble, if I'm not mistaken.
		We the people, in order to send Mexico money, provide for the common defense of Mexican citizens.
		It's just like... Okay, alright.
		Moving on.
		Sports stadiums asking fans for their vaccine passports.
		Top officials at the NBA and MLB hope the worst of the coronavirus pandemic is behind them as teams start to welcome fans back into stadiums.
		But to watch the game live, a growing number of venues are asking visitors to prove they've gotten their shots by displaying what's called a vaccine passport.
		I'd like to thank CBS News for putting this in a way that seems as if you have the option of opting out.
		They're offering, they're asking for a vaccine passport.
		Hey, would you mind having a vaccine passport?
		Or you'll be barred from participating in public life, is what they're not...
		Adding on.
		So this clearly proves that the only way to deal with the looming technocratic surveillance nightmare of vaccine passports is in the way that Florida is doing so.
		Not just banning governments from dealing with vaccine passports, but banning private companies from having anything to do with them as well.
		That's our only hope if we wish to avoid the stratified apartheid system that they're attempting to inject into us where you are either totally subservient, willing to get your experimental shot updated every few months and constantly checking in willing to get your experimental shot updated every few months and constantly checking in and providing your health and medical details every time you go to a public place or people that just want to be
		Yesterday, there was a security incident at the CIA headquarters just outside the secure perimeter of the CIA headquarters by their main gate.
		They say our compound remains secure and our security protective officers working the incident are the only agency personnel directly involved.
		Refers questions to the FBI.
		The FBI says they are reviewing an agent-involved shooting.
		An individual emerged from his vehicle with a weapon and was engaged by law enforcement officers per statement.
		The subject was wounded and has been transported to a hospital for medical attention.
		Very interesting stuff.
		Gosh, I hope all of the cisgender Latina single mothers of the CIA are doing okay.
		I'm glad they're alright.
		Jason Bourne there trying to get in.
		Exclusive classified study found COVID-19 could have originated in a Chinese lab.
unidentified		What?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Why haven't I heard of this?
		A classified study on the origin of SARS-CoV-2 conducted a year ago by scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the Department of Energy's premier biodefense research institution, concluded that the novel coronavirus at the heart of the current pandemic may have originated in a laboratory in China, Sinclair has learned.
		Well, I'm just shocked.
		I'm shocked.
		We've heard from the day it was announced that it came from a bat.
		And now they're saying it's some sort of bioweapon?
		what duh duh it's just like hey did you know that the epicenter of the disease was directly on top of a level five bioweapons research lab that was engaged in gain of function research of coronaviruses Oh, but the virus came from the supermarket down the road.
		Okay.
		I mean, it's like, wow, oh my gosh, it came from a lab.
		Who would have thought?
		Did you know that pouring gasoline and throwing a lit match on a pile of hay will start a fire?
		What?
		Yeah, dude, it's just the more obvious things are, the more they get buried in this stupid world of lies.
		George W. Bush, hey, speaking of stupid world of lies, the GOP says this, if the GOP stands for white Anglo-Saxon Protestantism, it's not going to win anything.
		Thank you, George W. Bush, the expert on winning things.
		How'd your old wars go, George W. Bush?
		White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism that's not going to win anything.
		This, the man who sent us to Iraq because God told him to.
		Yeah, what do you stand for, scumbag?
		Nothing.
		Eating children.
		In the wake of COVID, employers set up automation and use of robots.
		As U.S.
		economy rebounds from the COVID-19 pandemic, employers are turning to greater use of automation, including robots, rather than calling back workers or hiring new ones in many cases.
		Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you might get sick and die, but the good news is Your job will be fulfilled by a mindless robot.
		Or a vaccine taker.
		Either one, really.
		They both work.
		They're the same.
		What was that about voter suppression?
		This article from the Wall Street Journal.
		This feature... We have classic voter suppression, declared Kamala Harris last fall, and Democrats keep making the charge.
		Yet new census voting data shows these claims are as meritless as Donald Trump's that the election was stolen.
		Wow.
		Wait a second.
		You're saying it's true?
		You're saying it really is true what Kamala Harris said?
		No, no, I'm sorry.
		These claims are as meritless as Joe Biden's claim that the election was the most legitimate of all time.
		Census figures released Thursday showed that the turnout in 2020 reached near historic highs for the presidential election.
		Essentially, they compared There's voter rules that were strict versus ones that were more loose, and they found there was no difference between the demographics of people who voted in those two areas.
		Meaning, I know, just as shocking as the fact that the COVID-19 virus leaked from a lab, Democrats are liars, folks.
		Well, I know.
		Hold on to your hats.
		You know, big truth bomb here.
		Democrats, totally full of crap.
		Like, 100%.
		Like, nothing they say is true.
		It's really incredible.
		Literally, nothing.
		They claim it's voter suppression?
		That's just not true.
		It's just total baseless...
		Flat out lie.
		Truly incredible.
		Governor Ron DeSantis signs landmark legislation to ban vaccine passports and stem government overreach, banning it even from private organizations from requiring a vaccine passport.
		And that is, of course, the only way to truly do it.
		A lot of more great news.
		Horrible news.
		Sorry, did I say great?
		I meant a bunch of BS, fury-inspiring news to come later in the program.
		We'll try to have fun with it.
		Mark Shelby in the third hour, and I'll give you the sales from the InfoWars store on the other side.
		Stay with us.
unidentified		You're watching the American Journal.
unidentified		Watch live right now at Band.Video.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to American Journal on InfoWars.com and Band.Video.
		Big show still ahead for you today.
		I've got a lot of videos to show you.
		I've got Mike Shelby coming in the third hour.
		He is an intelligence expert.
		I'm very excited to talk to him about, well let's just suffice it to say, low-intensity conflict and how the Info Warriors can act as a decentralized intelligence network of epic proportion that can actually ...operate effectively in the increasingly stringent totalitarian surveillance world that we now occupy.
		He's got a lot of great information, so I'm very excited to talk to him in the third hour.
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		Now I want to talk briefly.
		about argumentation presentation of leftist arguments because They have a few distinct and obvious tactics that somehow they're able to use over and over and over again.
		I want to sort of dissect them and understand how rhetorically effective these are.
		Here's a tweet from Drew Holden who compares two headlines from CNN.
		Now, we read the headline earlier today that Joe Biden has received the least negative press of any president the Pew Research has ever studied.
		During his first four months of office.
		Now a lot of this is pure media manipulation, and this comparison of two CNN headlines really illustrates it perfectly.
		Because what they're reporting is exactly the same thing.
		It's exactly the same idea, but the way it's presented is in two entirely different forms.
		CNN reports back last year, even before his diagnosis, President Trump had taken to calling drug companies to check on their vaccine trials, asking how much longer they'd take and ginning up the pressure around his desire for a vaccine before election day.
		Compare that to CNN reporting on Joe Biden when they say, the urgent wartime effort by President Biden and his top advisors to get millions of vaccines in the arms of Americans has allowed the U.S.
		to go from having one of the worst COVID responses in the world to being a global leader in vaccinations.
		Now, I could do an entire show just on the comparison of these two headlines because the subtle rhetoric, rhetorical Shortcuts that they use the little keys that they use are so Subtle but powerful, right?
		Even just the way it's phrased even before his diagnosis Trump had taken to calling drug companies to check their vaccine trials Does that does that?
		Fill you with the idea of somebody who's in control No, it's like even before his diagnosis.
		So this is like a Like he's just like panicking and he is just calling them.
		President Trump had taken to calling.
		Not and you know, instead of the wartime effort by President Biden and his top advisors, right?
		You can just you could just phrase it the same way.
		Donald Trump and his top advisors is his wartime effort, right?
		It's just the way it's phrased is so again.
		It's just it's subtle but it's there and really what the underlying Message of this is is that he doesn't care about the vaccine doesn't care about you.
		He doesn't care about health He cares about his health and he's doing it for himself, right?
		That's why they put even before his diagnosis.
		This was published while he Was undergoing treatment for kovat.
		I assume So there it's the it's the insinuation that it was a selfish thing that he was doing.
		And they're ginning up the pressure around his desire for a vaccine before election day.
		See, he doesn't care about the vaccine.
		He has political machinations in mind.
		He doesn't care about you.
		He just cares about the vaccine because he thinks it'll get him elected because he wants power.
		That's the insinuation under this.
		They don't say it, but that's what they're saying.
		Why else would they say around his desire for a vaccine before election day?
		The urgent wartime effort by President Biden and his top advisors to get millions of vaccines into the arms of Americans has allowed the U.S.
		to go from having one of the worst COVID responses in the world to being a global leader in vaccinations.
		So again, they're acting as if President Trump didn't care and wasn't successful.
		It's just, it's so obvious if you know how to look for this stuff.
		And I don't know how this gets by people.
		I don't understand how they read this and just think like, oh, yeah, CNN is just trying to do their best.
		They're just reporting the news as it is.
	No, they are obsessed with pushing their agenda and framing everything wrong.
	And the reason I wanted to read that one and the reason I'll read these other few is because here's the tactic I'm trying to point out.
	The tactic is everything that Republicans advocate for, they don't really want.
	That's the insinuation.
	Nothing that the Republicans say that they want, no matter how clearly that is what they're going for.
	And of course, I'm talking about things like the voter integrity laws in Georgia.
	It's like, they make voter integrity laws.
	They're like, look, we need to have secure elections.
	We want no mail-in ballots.
	We want you to have an ID.
	We want you to vote in person.
	And it's like, The Democrats are just like, oh, you hate black people, huh?
	It's just like, what?
	What are you talking about?
	And the insinuation is, and the way it's reported is, no, no, they don't want voter integrity.
	That's a lie.
	That's an obfuscation.
	Really, they're trying to suppress the black vote, and they're lying about voter integrity.
	So everything the Republicans advocate for, whether it's vaccines or voter integrity or A wall on the border or whatever it is, it has to be portrayed in the biggest negative light possible.
	They're always insinuating or implying or simply saying outright that what they really want is this other thing.
	See, they're mind readers and they just, you know, assume that everything that Republicans are saying is really cover for some sort of nefarious plot inspired by literally just baseless hate, right?
	They literally have injected this this mindset into the American people that everything the Republicans want, especially Donald Trump wants, is just mindless hate.
	It has no bearing on like good versus bad.
	Like, well, I think this is best for the American people.
	Well, it's a sacrifice, but we have to make it because of the benefit.
	Like, no, no, they're just like they're just motivated entirely by baseless racial hatred.
	And so everything that the Republicans try to do can be seen through that lens.
	And that's how they promote it.
	Meanwhile, the literal baseless lies of the Democrats, where they just make stuff up completely out of nowhere, using completely the wrong words.
	It's just like they just believe that media just reports it.
	Of course talking about things like the infrastructure bill for trillion dollars where it's not infrastructure.
	It's just not they say yes, we need infrastructure bill and then it's like how is Community College infrastructure?
	How is preschool infrastructure?
	How is healthcare infrastructure?
	That's not infrastructure.
	So it's projection on their part, because for the most part, even the establishment Republicans, I mean, as weak-willed, as cowardly, as, you know, nobbled as these guys are, they're actually pretty straightforward.
unidentified		They're like, we just want to put forward this bill on voter integrity.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I wish they would go farther.
		Uh, but the fact is, usually the Republican bill is pretty straightforward, pretty normal, what they want.
		It's not like outrageous, but it has to be portrayed in the opposite of reality.
		Well, meanwhile, the Democrats are actually engaged in that kind of disinformation.
		All right, folks, very excited to welcome Mike Shelby to the third hour.
		But for now, I want to continue on this little diatribe I'm on because I think it's important.
		I think we should maybe we'll do like a We will do a new segment on American Journal.
		I'll have to make, like, an email address or something.
		Maybe you can just tag me on Twitter.
		But every day, all over America, people in institutions such as corporations and even schools are in Zoom calls and private social media networks where
		People are posting the most outrageous, partisan nonsense that doesn't belong in your school or work forums, and yet you can't respond to it because then you'll be portrayed as the bad person.
		They can just say the most outrageous stuff.
		With a total straight face, and the worst part of it is they say it in this sickly sweet Dolores Umbridge kind of like, you know, hey guys, hey guys, new thing happening right now, hey guys, we're chopping children's genitals off, and if you want to join us it'll be super fun, there's a big party, and you just have to sit there.
		And not respond because you don't want to lose your job or you don't want to get kicked out of school or you don't want to become a pariah because the way that the mainstream media has manipulated people's minds, they think if you don't willfully join into the insanity that they're engaged in, then you must be a hateful bigot who harbors, you know, secret White supremacist desires to kill everybody who's not like you.
		Like it's insane out there.
		So anyway, I almost want to create like a segment that's like the Journal Responds, American Journal Responds, where I can respond on your behalf, where you can send me these messages that are posted on private boards that you can't respond to without losing your job.
		My God, wouldn't you just love to go off on these scumbag idiots that you have to work with?
		I know you're out there.
		I know because I have some of these messages and I'm going to respond to some of them right now and I'm going to use them to illustrate another point of leftist rhetorical trickery.
		I covered in that last segment about how leftists portray the left and the right as One being entirely truthful and legitimate and everything they do is just they just want the best for everyone and the other side is never saying what they truly think.
		They're always hiding some nefarious racist plot in the shadows and they're inspired by some sort of secret unannounced racial hatred even when it has literally nothing to do with anything that we're talking about.
		Meanwhile, The reality is very much the opposite.
		The reality is very much the opposite.
		I can give you a few more examples on this.
		A lot of people out there are like, look, the vaccine is untested technology.
		It has not gone through the trials that normal vaccines go through.
		I don't necessarily trust it.
		I know that the coronavirus is not actually that big of a deal, especially if you are stocked up on the right vitamins and minerals and sunlight.
		Then it's not that big of an issue.
		So look, I'm just really not down with the vaccine.
		And then the way that's portrayed in the mainstream media is, you think Bill Gates is turning you into a lizard.
		They're afraid, they're scared to get the vaccine because they think George Soros is going to turn them into a lizard.
		It's just like, what the hell are you talking about?
		Meanwhile, you have the leftists just, just lying about everything, right?
		Just, just, you know, human infrastructure.
		Oh, we made up a term called human infrastructure.
		That way we can pass the things that Americans wouldn't normally want us to pass, right?
		You say, oh, we want to give, you know, free preschool and free healthcare on the taxpayers dime.
		And Americans are like, no, we're not interested.
		Oh, but if you say human infrastructure, And you go, hey, do you want infrastructure?
		Americans are like, yeah, infrastructure is good.
		And it's like, cool, cool.
		We changed the definition.
		I don't know if you've noticed that.
		We changed the definition of that.
		Same thing with like...
		People out there who have young daughters that are practicing sports and being really good at them and they're like, hey, I don't want some boy coming in and ruining my daughter's chance of getting a gold medal or getting a scholarship.
		I think these sports should be separate by gender and I don't care what you want to call yourself.
		If you're physically a boy, you shouldn't be able to participate with girls.
		And they're just like, wow, so you just want to kill trans people, huh?
		Just like, what?
		This is absurd.
		But this is the level that they always take it.
		And that's sort of the key aspect here is taking it to that most extreme level to set the groundwork to then dominate the conversation.
		And the problem is that Republicans often fall for this and try to backtrack and act as if the assertions of this insane level of exaggeration actually have any legitimacy.
		So in Austin, we just voted on Prop B and it passed.
		And this person in this private group, don't show it because I don't want to out this person.
		I just want to humiliate the concept of them.
		You say, please make sure you vote either today.
		Prop B is straight up human rights violation against people experiencing homelessness.
		So this is an example of leftists just taking it to the most extreme.
		There is no human right to camp wherever the hell you please.
		What are you talking about?
		That's not a human right.
	It's a human right for me to set up a two-story camp under an overpass?
	What the hell are you talking about?
	That's not a human right.
	But no, no, it can't just be a conflict over homelessness or over public safety versus, you know, private areas.
	Like, no, no, no.
	It's a human rights violation.
	And so if you're against Camp, you know, homeless people just being able to camp by the thousands in the park behind your house.
	You are violating human rights at this point.
	That's the most egregious thing you could possibly do.
	It's what we go to war with other countries for.
	It's like practically like dropping a chemical bomb on your own people.
	You're violating human rights.
	You're silencing people.
	You're, you know, denying people the right to practice their religion.
	Like, no, I'm saying that you're not allowed to shoot up heroin at the creek behind my house.
	That's not your human right to do.
	Okay?
	So they just, they have to take it to the farthest extreme.
	And the problem is that then they've set the tone.
	And then it's like, suddenly, if you're arguing against their insane policy of, of homeless people can camp anywhere, throw trash everywhere, assault people constantly and no, you know, there's nothing we can do about it.
	If you oppose that, their massive extreme policy of homeless people, then you are violating human rights.
	So you just can't let them set the table.
	You can't let them decide or dictate what the conversation is going to be because they take it to the most extreme to where you either agree with them or you are literally denying people human rights.
	Okay?
	That's one of the ones that they cover.
	The other is transgender hormone blocking chemical castration for children.
	Now, you can call this a lot of things.
	I just did.
	You could call it chemical castration.
	You could call it hormone blocking.
	You can call it all sorts of stuff.
	One of the tricks they do, and you got to hand it to the left.
	They're very good at verbiage.
	They're very good at coming up with these little terms.
	Now, they have entire universities coming up with this sort of stuff.
	But it's very effective.
	Like, they're very good at it.
	You have to admit, human infrastructure sounds great.
	Human infrastructure.
	That's something that sounds like I can get into.
	Really, it's socialism.
	So, you know, they just call it human infrastructure and suddenly you're for it.
	So one of the things that they do is they call chemical castration.
	That kind of, you know, that doesn't sound good, does it?
	Chemical castration of children.
	I'm not sure I'm into that.
	Genital mutilation.
	Under a knife?
	That's... I'm not into that.
	No, no.
	It's gender affirming healthcare.
	That's right.
	Gender affirming healthcare.
	It's one of the ways that they mask their true intentions.
	It's not gender affirming healthcare.
	What does that even mean?
	You have a biological sex and you are altering that.
	You are performing either very destructive surgery or permanent and irreversible hormone manipulation by very powerful chemical compounds.
	That's what you're doing.
	That's the reality of the situation.
	They mask that reality and they hide that reality by calling it gender-affirming healthcare.
	You want to deny them gender-affirming healthcare?
	That's just horrible.
	But then it goes a step farther.
	And then this person says, There's a rally being hosted at the state capitol to protest a legislature that would criminalize life-saving healthcare for transgender children.
	Life-saving healthcare.
	Now when I say life-saving healthcare, you probably think I'm talking about, I don't know, some sort of miracle cancer cure, right?
	Heart surgery.
	Asthma inhalers.
	Life-saving healthcare.
	You're talking about a perfectly healthy child.
	Physically, totally healthy.
	Nothing wrong with them.
	And you're talking about castrating them with chemicals.
	That is not life-saving healthcare.
	But again, this is all just to illustrate the way that they take it to the most extreme to put you on the back foot And to put you in the position of, now you're arguing to kill children.
	So it was always a meme before, right?
	It was like, well, you either agree with us or you want children to die.
	This is where we've gotten to.
	You either agree with chemically castrating transgender children or you're trying to kill them.
	You're denying them, you're criminalizing life-saving healthcare.
unidentified		You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
		Keep my hands on myself.
		Keep out those tombs, put them back up on the shelf.
		Kiss my little baby girl as in need.
		Am I coming out of love for you?
		There was an altercation in St.
		Clair Shores where 33-year-old Kristen Hoff was told to leave Nino Sauvagios for failing to wear a mask.
		She allegedly assaulted a clerk and spit on officers.
		Over in Holly, 68-year-old Rex Gaumont has been charged with misdemeanor assault and battery for wiping his nose and face on a store clerk after being told he had to wear a mask.
		A man enraged inside a San Antonio store and refusing to wear one.
		The situation escalates with shoving and screaming.
		The fight was over one man not wearing a mask.
		That man pulled out a knife and stabbed a 77-year-old before taking off.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		There have been shootings.
unidentified		Munderland, a security guard at a family dollar in Flint, was shot in the back of the head for refusing service to a woman who didn't want to wear a mask.
		A group of men pull up and try to enter without face masks, which is not allowed.
		The group argues with security and masked customers before heading back to the parking lot.
		Minutes later, the masked and unmasked groups are seen arguing and fighting.
sunny hostin ▲ ● ▼		Both sides pull guns.
sunny hostin ▲ ● ▼		Charles Jackson Jr.
unidentified		in the black ball cap and other security guards try to break up the fight.
		Jackson is then shot twice and falls to the ground.
		The unmasked party speeds off, the suspected shooter taking off in this white Mercedes SUV.
		Jackson, a Marine veteran and family man, remains in critical condition tonight.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		There have been totalitarian warnings from the petty tyrants grasping for the ring of power.
sunny hostin ▲ ● ▼		Almost 50% of Republicans are refusing to get the vaccine, so we won't reach herd immunity because of those particular groups.
		So I say we need to shun those that refuse to get vaccinated, just like now in certain states, many states, I know in New York, There are signs on storefronts, on businesses, all across the state.
		No mask, no entry.
		I think if you have not been vaccinated, no entry.
		You want to get on a plane?
		You got to be vaccinated.
		Show proof of vaccination.
		And those people that don't want to get vaccinated, then that's fine.
		That's fine for you.
		But then you can't spread it to other people.
		That are vaccinated.
		You can't spread it to other people that are also not vaccinated.
		Then you don't get those other liberties that come with immunity.
		Something has to break.
		If that's your personal choice not to get vaccinated, you don't then get to infringe on the rights of those who have chosen to protect their fellow citizens.
michael smerconish ▲ ● ▼		There's also the stick, which could be wielded by government and the private sector.
		Businesses have particular leverage as they can require employees to get vaccinations and restrict public access to private spaces like airlines, mass transit, most sporting and cultural venues, restaurants and movie theaters.
		Writing in USA Today, Michael Stern, a former federal prosecutor, said this, Businesses should make vaccination a requirement for employment.
		A COVID outbreak can shut down a business and be financially devastating, and failure to enforce basic health and safety measures is not fair to employees who have to work in offices, factories, and stores where close contact is required.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		The great American mask panic has even gripped the fragile mind of Joe Biden as he clumsily attempts to wield the power of the symbolism of the mask over the masses.
unidentified		I'm looking for my mask.
unidentified		I'm in trouble.
jon bowne ▲ ● ▼		The mask itself has been exposed as a fraud.
unidentified		Wearing masks like that is wasting a mask.
		That's a mask that won't be available when it's actually needed.
		The State Government's advice on wearing face masks is in line with the World Health Organisation.
		Under its guidelines, masks should only be worn if you have a cough, fever and difficulty breathing, or if you are healthy and taking care of someone with these symptoms and or someone with a confirmed case of COVID-19.
		If you do not have these symptoms, you do not have to wear masks because there is no evidence that they protect people who are not sick.
		Once a mask gets wet, maybe from our exhalation, it really begins to decrement in effectiveness in filtering any sort of respiratory... Folks, this video is called The Great American Mask Panic.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		By John Bowne on Infowars.com, band.video, the great American mask panic.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We'll look back at this in history and laugh at ourselves, I think.
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		Alright, moving on.
		Still a lot to talk about, and of course we'll be welcoming Mike Shelby, intelligence expert, in the third hour.
		And I'm gonna go ahead and take your calls.
		Take your calls through the second hour, and perhaps Mike will want to stay on with us and answer questions on the line in the third hour.
		So, uh, give us a call at the number to dial 1-877-789-2539.
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		So many, uh, so many stories to cover.
		God, where should I go?
		Okay, I'm gonna go, uh, I'm gonna go with what, you know, maybe one of the most troubling and important things going on right now, and it may not be happening in America yet.
		But it kind of is, you know, in a different way, in a more subtle way.
		This is what's going on, but we're seeing the slippery slope come to its crashing end in Europe.
		Finnish politician faces up to six years in prison for citing the Bible and criticizing homosexuality.
		A Christian politician in Finland, six years in prison.
		Current Finnish member of parliament and former minister of the interior, Haivi Razanen, was charged with three hate crime counts, the investigation being triggered by her posting Romans 124-27 in response to the participation of the Finnish Lutheran Church in the 2019 the investigation being triggered by her posting Romans 124-27 in response to the Another one of the charges relates to their participation in a 2018 radio show on the question, what would Jesus think about homosexuals?
		Finnish prosecutor general, a leftist who considers communist Nelson Mandela to be her guru, announced that after opening the investigation into Razanen, I'm sure I'm pronouncing that wrong, I have no idea how else to pronounce it, in September 2019, the state had enough evidence to charge her, reports National File.
		Prosecutor argued that Razanen's remarks overstepped the boundaries of freedom in speech and religion and are likely to fuel intolerance, contempt, and hatred because they were derogatory, discriminatory against homosexuals.
unidentified		Thank you.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		It was a Bible verse.
		Incredible.
		My statements were all based on the Bible's teaching on marriage and sexuality, said Rassadin.
		I will defend my right to confess my faith and no one else will be deprived of their right to freedom of religion and speech.
		I hold on to the view that my expressions are legal and they should not be censored.
		I will not back down from my views.
		I will not be intimidated into hiding my faith.
		The more Christians keep silence on controversial themes, the narrower the space for freedom of speech gets.
		This is, again, happening constantly in Europe.
		And if you don't understand what this is, maybe I can illuminate it for you.
		They have a religion.
		It is not Christianity.
		When you profess Christianity, you are blaspheming against their religion.
		You are being punished for blasphemy.
		against their religion.
		They might call it a fence.
		They might say, what did they say?
		Intolerance, contempt, and hatred is what you're inspiring.
		Now, Christianity is the 100% most loving religion ever found on earth.
		Like, no doubt is the most loving and giving an, you know, least controversial or contemptible Or hate-filled.
		But you see, you disagree with them, so you must be stopped.
		This is blasphemy laws.
		These are blasphemy laws, but the religion that they are punishing you for blaspheming against is ill-defined, let's just say.
		We could define it.
		We might get in trouble.
		We'll call it Satanism.
		This is happening all over the place.
		I showed last year a cafe in Ireland who had a Bible verse on the wall, and there's a video of the police coming in and saying you have to take that down off your wall.
		It is insulting to people.
		We've gotten complaints about it.
		Complaints about a Bible verse.
		Just... I don't know how much more we can, you know, drive home on this.
		If you are being arrested and charged with potentially six years in prison for quoting three chapters of Romans, you are in a satanic church state.
		Okay, Finland?
		Just incredible.
		Now, they can say whatever they want about Christians, right?
		They can have illustrations of... I don't even want to describe it.
		They can say whatever they want about Christians.
		They can say whatever they want.
		They can portray us however they want.
		They can lie about Christians.
		They can portray Christians, your Christianity, in the most God-awful light.
		That's offensive to us.
		I would consider that hatred.
		I would consider that contempt.
		I would consider that incendiary, especially the fact that France has a church burned down like once a week.
		The fact that we've had churches burned down here, historic churches in Washington, D.C.
		and TIFUN Black Lives Matter.
		The Christians are 100% the most attacked people in the entire world.
		In Ethiopia, just last month, hundreds of Christians were killed in their church.
		This just happens all over the world.
		So don't you think, you know, saying something against a Christian, would you go to jail for six years for hate speech?
		Of course not.
		Because it's not about offense.
		It's not about hatred.
		It's not about incendiary language.
		Those are just the words they use because their religion is Satanism.
		It is built on lies.
		And it's fine for them to say whatever they need to say to crush Christianity.
		So again, it's like, you say something about homosexualities, that's offensive to the homos, so you'll be sent to jail for six years.
		The homos can stage a live, you know, pornographic degradation of your lord and savior in the public square, and it'll be celebrated and funded and protected by your government.
		We don't want to inspire hatred, do we?
		Well, not if it's one direction, but the other direction you seem totally fine with.
		There's a video.
	Video number 13.
	This happened in the UK.
	The police officer claims the preacher is being arrested for hate crime following complaints that he's caused distress by quoting from the Bible.
	Let's roll that clip.
	Here we see a preacher holding a Bible, wearing a nice suit, standing up on a little stepstool, preaching in a free speech area of Britain.
unidentified		He's being confronted by two police.
		There's no law against family.
		I'm not obstructing the highway.
		If people want to pass by, they can pass by.
		Kate, I don't mind you filming, but if you don't mind, yeah?
		Hate crime.
		Hate crime.
		- I don't mind you filming, but it's just fine. - Hate crime. - Hate crime. - Hate crime. - Unbelievable. - Anything you do say may be given to them. - I hate crime. - There's no reason for this.
		because we've had lots of reasons for this.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		here you go folks in the uk a preacher standing in public being arrested for reading the bible being arrested for preaching the gospel
		If you don't understand that we are now being ruled by an anti-Christian religion, and they now have control of the government, here he is being pulled off his stool, being bodily dragged away for daring to preach the gospel.
		We've entered a new phase of persecution.
unidentified		All right, welcome back, folks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		American Journal here on InfoWars.com and Band.Video.
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harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Really shocking.
		Six years in prison for daring to quote the Bible.
		Absolutely mind-blowing.
		And a pastor arrested after citing biblical marriage definition.
		71 year old pastor in the UK.
		Arrested for alleged hate speech.
		Handcuffed and arrested by police for alleged hate speech after talking about the biblical definition of marriage.
		That marriage is between a man and a woman.
		Absolutely mind-boggling.
		This is going on in Europe.
		They should have just said they were Islamists.
		They should have said they were Muslim.
		They're like, no, please, I'm Muslim.
		And they're like, oh, we're so sorry, sir.
		Have a council house.
		Would you like a child?
		We provide children to them.
		There he is.
		Being dragged away.
		Old man in a suit.
		Being arrested in the UK for quoting the Bible.
		It's easier to get away with when, uh, You've purged the Christians from society.
		I mean, that's just absolutely mind-blowing to me.
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		Let's go now to Johnny in Denmark.
		Thanks for calling in.
		Johnny, you are on the air, sir.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Hi again, Harrison.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Well, for my part, I think you're doing a great job.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, hold on, Johnny.
		Thank you very much.
		I appreciate that.
		If you could get a little closer to the phone, I'm having a little bit of trouble hearing you.
unidentified		Sure.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Can you hear me better now?
		Uh, not really.
		If you get a little closer, that'd be great.
		But go ahead.
unidentified		Okay.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
		Let me try to move.
		Maybe it's a signal problem.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		All right, that's better.
		Thanks, John.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Okay.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		No, you're doing, uh, for my part, uh, I think you're doing a great job.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it might just be, um, yeah, you had so many people calling before that they, um, Maybe they're just, you know, relaxing a little while before they call in again.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm spoiled.
		What it is, Johnny, is I'm spoiled and I'm used to the phone lines immediately lighting up totally full.
		And when that doesn't happen, I get scared.
		So I'm just spoiled.
		And now the phone lines are totally full.
		So they've completely filled up in the last minute or so.
		So the call has gone out and the Info Warriors have responded as they're so capable of doing.
		So I'm done complaining.
		I'm done complaining.
		You guys are great.
		I always thank Johnny for calling in as well.
		So your topic, sir, is the Center for Countering Digital Hate.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is a CCDH, Orwellianly named, about as legitimate as Department of Defense is.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Ministry of Love.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		You got that one right.
		Take a look at it, they just released a list Of 12 people, actually 13 because they put Ty and Charlene Bollinger in together as one person, who they say why platforms must act on the 12 leading online anti-vaxxers.
		Just 12 anti-vaxxers, and I quote, just 12 anti-vaxxers are responsible for almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content circulating on social media platforms.
		This new analysis of content posted or shared to social media over 812,000 times between February and March uncovers how a tiny group of determined anti-vaxxers is responsible for a tidal wave of disinformation and shows how platforms can fix it by enforcing their standards.
		Right.
		So this doubtlessly Soros-backed NGO thinks that they're not these social media platforms aren't Orwellian enough.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		And who might they be?
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Interestingly enough, I guess they're listing in order of dangerousness.
unidentified		Right.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		Their assessment.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		One is Joseph Mercola, who, by the way, I learned from Mike Adams' situation update on his Brideon.com responded to threats, not legal threats, but he said actual practical threats, which not legal threats, but he said actual practical threats, which is really ominous, by removing all contents on his site about vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, and COVID-19.
unidentified		Wow.
johnny in denmark ▲ ● ▼		And you don't have to read between the lines too much to imagine what those kinds of threats were.
		Mike Adams spelled it out in his situation update from yesterday.
		Two, RFK Jr., pretty strong evidence against Dr. Shiva's claim that he's just controlled opposition.
		I think to some extent he is, but not nearly as much as Shiva claims.
		Three, Ty and Charlene Ballinger, who might actually want to appear on your show.
		They've appeared on Mike's, and they're very well informed.
		Or Sherry Tenpenny.
		And after this is over, I'd like to know if you've made any progress in contacting her.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think we've reached out to her.
		The crew can bring up this list, and we'll go through it, because I want to get to one more call this segment.
		We just had the list.
		Rizza Islam, Rashid Buttar, Erin Elizabeth, Sayer G, Kelly Brogan, Christine Northrup, Ben Tapper, and Kevin Jenkins.
		There's some Some great names.
		Hey, thank you, the Center for Countering Hate or whatever you're saying, whatever you're freaking called, for giving us a fantastic list of great resources to go to and to find out the truth about vaccines.
		But it's a great point, Johnny, that they're bringing up for countering digital hate.
		It's like, yeah, if you question the medical establishment, you just must be full of hatred and must be silenced.
		It's totally absurd, utterly destructive, and of course funded by billionaires to destroy the right of regular Americans to speak their mind.
		Thanks for the call, Johnny.
		Let's go now to Matt in New York.
		Thanks for calling in, Matt.
		You are on the air.
		Matt in New York.
		Are you there?
bs assassin in new york ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what's up?
bs assassin in new york ▲ ● ▼		You hear me?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I hear you now.
bs assassin in new york ▲ ● ▼		You hear me?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I hear you now.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		We're about a minute away from break, Matt.
bs assassin in new york ▲ ● ▼		All right, what's up, InfoWarriors?
		This is what we gotta do.
		We gotta start the Anti-Propaganda Committee to see who the heck is lying to us, because we can't trust anything anyone says.
		We gotta get all the congressmen, the governors, we gotta get them up, and we gotta ask them, what did you know, and when did you know it?
		And on what basis did you shut down the whole United States on, and cause all this irreparable damage to our citizens?
		You know what I mean?
		We got to get all these guys right in front of us and we got to call them out because we ain't going to get nowhere with these lies.
		As long as everyone's allowed to lie to us, where are we going to go?
		We ain't going to go nowhere.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, you're right.
		You know, if maybe it'd be a fair playing field, you know, if we had about 2,000 multi-billionaires on our side funding things like the anti-propaganda committee.
		We don't, folks.
		We don't have a George Soros.
		And thank God we don't.
		We only have you, the American people.
		So Matt is exactly right.
		We need to come together.
		And whether it's creating little committees in our own town or simply creating a online backlash hashtag movement, whatever it is, it's up to us.
		We don't have the funds.
		We don't have the people paid to do this.
		So we have to do it ourselves.
unidentified		You're listening to the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
		Watch it live right now at band.video.
		All right, folks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I put out the call, and you have responded.
		Now it's up to me to try to get to as many of your calls as possible.
		And we will begin with that attempt now.
		Let's go first to Don in Austin.
		He wants to talk about the spiritual nature of what's happening.
		Yes, Don, I...
		Could not agree with you more.
		When you have people being arrested and potentially facing six years in prison for quoting the Bible, I think there's certainly a spiritual aspect of this that's worth paying attention to.
		Thanks for calling in.
		Dawn, you're on the air.
unidentified		Well, and what really needs to be understood is we've already done Revelation.
		We are in a place that's after that.
		I am engaged in a battle.
		Within a person that I grew up with in Southern California that is no longer human.
		At one time, her power was ten times that of our Creator that created the heaven and earth in six days.
		She is here in Austin.
		I'm here in Austin.
		Austin is a special place.
		What's left of Garden of Eden is off of Burleson and But the other part of it, that it's gone.
		And so we are at a disadvantage because she is behind so much and she has me in this bubble that this is the first time I've finally gotten through and am being heard.
		I need help.
		She is targeting me.
		With military electronic weaponry.
		I don't know if you've heard of MK Ultra, but I am a targeted individual.
		This has been over a thousand plus days of constant surveillance.
		And it's in combination with her untraditional black magic.
		And I have evidence and footage of her.
		But she is jealous of me and who I am and what I have become.
		I'm the first of a kind and I'm not supposed to be in this position.
		I really have no natural enemies and I worked very hard pleading for humanity because we were in a very bad position.
		So bad that crucifixion wasn't going to cover it, and it has a lot to do with the debt, and it's complicated.
		But I need help and protection, and I'm here local, and if you could check me out, I don't know if it's okay to say.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't say anything on the air that's personally identifiable.
		I mean, if you're in danger of somebody attacking you, I would go to the police.
		I mean, if there's one thing that they do like doing is, you know, protecting innocent people.
		You know, who are being harassed, you can always get a restraining order or something like that.
		I would say that's the way to do it or, you know, find a church that can help you, guide you in your spiritual path.
		But, you know, if you're really in danger or something, you got to go to the authorities and find someone like that.
		I mean, I'm not sure what I can do for you, and I definitely don't want you putting your personal information out over the air.
		But if you're worried about, you know, somebody threatening you in some way, You know, I'd say go to the police.
		I mean, that's what they're there for, and they can get a restraining order, you know, family court or whatever sort of other thing that you want.
		I mean, I hope, I wish the best for you.
		I mean, I don't want to see anybody being attacked, but hopefully, you know, you can get a handle on that.
		Thanks for the call, Don.
		Let's go to John in Toronto.
		Dr. Wallace Wong.
		I'm not sure who this is, but we have John in Toronto.
unidentified		Hey, how's it going, Anson?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Good, thank you.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Very well.
		Yeah, I was calling in because of a story that has become relevant.
		Dr. Wallace Wong there in Vancouver.
		He's also a doctor in California.
		He was doing a talk and claimed to Be transitioning about 500 orphans in the Vancouver, BC area.
		Most of them, I guess, NATOs.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Transitioning them?
unidentified		Yeah, well, he's a transition, like a psychological doctor, transition doctor.
unidentified		He's written several books.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Like gender transition, you mean?
unidentified		Yes, exactly.
		I see.
		You know, he was caught in a talk about two years ago saying, oh, you know, if you want to get government approval to do the transition, just tell the government your child is suicidal.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		The parents were asking for this advice.
		They were the ones saying, oh, we want to transition our kids, you know.
		So there's an audio file I send to your people.
		But it gets more interesting because the case with Robert Hoogland, You know, I'm not even allowed to say his name in Canada.
		He's been banned by BC courts.
		He just went to jail now for six months last week because he refused to call his daughter a boy.
		Right.
		And I know everybody knows about the story, but guess who the doctor was who his daughter was sneakily sent to while they were in this, you know, hubbub.
		It was none other than Wallace Wong.
		Yeah, exactly.
		So there's a trend here.
		He also claims to have 500 children in his private practice who he's helped in transition.
		He said, you know, years ago it was older people, now children as young as three years old.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Three-year-old kids, and you said a lot of them are orphans.
		So these are kids with no parental protection, no guidance from family members who are being sent to this doctor who chemically castrates them.
		And even if they don't qualify for it, he tells them to just pretend that you're suicidal and then you'll qualify for it.
		Oh, that's a face you can trust, right?
		I mean, my God, that is the face of Satan if I've ever seen one.
unidentified		Oh, I know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		My God, exposing Dr. Wallace.
		Yeah, in the article, they pulled up the article there as well saying that he told kids, and I guess parents of kids, to pretend that they're suicidal in order to get the treatment they want.
		That's just horrific.
		My God.
unidentified		Yeah, Culture Guard is the Christian group that exposed the whole thing.
		It never got any media.
		So when he was investigated for it, nothing ever came of it.
		And still he's involved in the practice and he literally has government authority over what he claims to be 500 orphans.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		That is horrific, John.
		I don't even know what to say about that.
		I mean, this is... It's unbelievable.
unidentified		What's more even unbelievable is that I haven't seen anyone talk about it.
		It's on audio.
		He gives a two-hour talk.
		He's explaining everything he does.
		He's talking about the psychology of it.
		His books are written for essential brainwashing.
		He's using this platform to promote an agenda.
		And even he is like, I can't believe how popular this is getting.
		It's actually freaking him out because he's been in this This is horrifying.
		for 30 years.
		Now to watch three-year-olds coming to transition courses, classes, doctors, is unbelievable to someone who specializes in it.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		This is horrifying.
		And I wasn't aware of the conclusion to the case you were talking about earlier where a guy who, and I had no idea it was connected to this, I haven't heard of this doctor before.
		So this guy has a daughter whose daughter is sent to Dr. Wong, I suppose, without his approval or oversight.
		Dr. Wong convinces her she is transgender, needs the surgery.
		The father refuses to acknowledge the daughter's, you know, supposed transition, refuses to call his daughter a boy.
		And so he's sitting in jail now, John?
unidentified		That's right.
		Six months in jail just for refusing to use the proper pronouns.
		Wow.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And let's be perfectly clear.
		As soon as Dr. Wong, regardless of the political or the spiritual or anything else, as soon as a doctor says, fake being suicidal to get treatment, he should be disbarred if not arrested.
		I mean, you can't even say that about getting drugs, like getting antidepressants.
		If your doctor says, well, just say you're suicidal and then you'll get the medicine that you want, telling them to lie about their symptoms in order to get a medical treatment that they're not actually qualified for, I mean, that is despicable.
		This is horrific.
		This is one of the most disturbing stories I've ever heard.
		So, Dr. Wallace Wong, in charge of 500 orphans in Canada, and is supported by the government as he forcibly castrates hundreds of children who have no protection from parental figure.
unidentified		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Final segment before the third hour when we'll be welcoming Mike Shelby, former intelligence NCO and contractor.
		Very excited to talk to him.
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		Now is the time to go to InfoWarsStore.com and I, uh, Suggest that you do for now I want to get through as many calls as possible in this last segment before we welcome Mike and then we'll take her calls in the third hour as well John in Toronto just dropped some very insane knowledge about
		Wallace Wong, a doctor in Canada, who is apparently in charge of 500 orphans, and he is a radical transgender doctor whose patients he convinces are transgender, and then anybody questioning that diagnosis from him will be sent to jail, apparently, by Canada.
		Incredible.
		Anything else?
		I want to know anything else you know about this, John, before we move on.
unidentified		Um, there was a guy campaigning across the country now here, Billboard Chris, billboardchris.com.
		He was in Montreal talking about this.
		There's a video of him on Twitter being attacked because he had a sign saying children cannot consent.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		They broke his arm.
unidentified		Yeah, and they broke his arm.
		I didn't interview with him.
		I have a channel, Tyrannosaurus Radio.
		Anyway, listen, I love the products.
		I buy them all the time.
		I got a bunch of stickers.
		I'm making 600 copies of Endgaming, handing them out around the town here.
		Fantastic.
		I know this is a very liberal city here.
		And as for the last caller, she just got to believe in Jesus, you know, the black magic.
		It's around, man.
		I've seen it.
		Yeah, yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Jesus outweighs all that.
		It's a good point.
		Thank you so much for the call, John.
		Great information.
		I'm glad you brought that to us.
		Let us go now to who's been on the longest, John in Arkansas.
		John in Arkansas has a comment about the, well, you said Finland preacher is actually a Finnish member of parliament, a Finnish MP who is being threatened with six years in prison, been charged with and potentially may be sentenced to six years in prison for hate speech for quoting the Bible.
		Thanks for calling in, John.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Hello.
		Can you hear me?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I can hear you fine.
unidentified		Okay, great.
		Yeah.
		This is what I think that the rest of us need to do.
		We really need to stand up and take action.
		I'm a 25-year veteran of martial arts.
		I practiced Tai Chi.
		I taught children for years.
		And I've been teaching what's coming right now.
		For at least 15 years, I've been aware of what's coming.
		And what I have taught my students is that if we don't make a decision between loving and love God or the machine, that the machines are going to take over.
		And the only way to win this situation is that we have to shut the system down.
		You know, and this is a very scary thing for many of us because I'm speaking to you through the system, through the machine.
		Right.
		And this is a difficult, we have to basically break away and start a new civilization without the machines.
		Otherwise, man is doomed.
		Okay?
		Yeah.
		And one of the things that I've always taught my students is that love is an action, not a feeling.
		And this is very important in the law of causality, because causality and God are one thing, and we're all a portion of that God fixture.
		And if we don't understand the difference between a feeling of something and an action we take in reality, we'll never cross the barrier of making it into the love world again.
		We'll fail this situation.
		We are being tested right now by God.
		And there's a good chance, from what I see, that we're failing.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		There's a huge chance.
		I totally agree.
		I mean, literally they are making quoting the Bible illegal.
		And yeah, it'll be coming here very soon.
		I mean, it's definitely an option.
		You know, I'm finding it harder and harder to disagree with you as time goes on, John, because, you know, I want to fight for this system that my ancestors built in this country that my forefathers founded.
		I'm not ready to give it up and leave it or surrender and retreat.
		I want to fight back.
		But the way things are going, getting away and, you know, starting over, assuming more and more.
		more and more advantageous, although the problem is they're not going to leave you alone.
		And you can go away and start your own civilization, and it can be better and more prosperous and better run and more fun and loving than any other place in the world.
		And the people from the other place in the world will see that and hate you for it and come and destroy it.
		So I don't know if running away is really a thing, you know, a way to solve this issue.
		I think we can actually take this on and reestablish the country that was the greatest in the history of the world before it was taken over by usurpers rather recently.
		So I think there's still hope in fighting back.
		But I I'll tell you, as more and more stuff is revealed going on behind the scenes, the more and more it does seem like this entire system is completely corrupt and decrepit and should be tossed to the side in favor of a brand new start somewhere else with my friends.
		Can't agree with that more.
		Thank you for the call so much, John.
		Let's go to Jordan in California.
		I want to hear about this because I've seen ads for the Utopia series on Amazon Prime.
		Jordan in California is calling in about that series.
		Have you watched this series, Jordan?
unidentified		Yeah, how's it going, Harrison?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Good, thank you.
unidentified		I just started it, actually, this week.
		Brother-in-law recommended it, and it's pretty interesting.
		It's odd that it's very recent, meaning that it was created in 2020, and it's parallel to what's going on right now with COVID-19, with the pandemic and then Man-made virus and it gets leaked There's a vaccine that's curable for everybody but the vaccine is actually going to kill more people than Actually help people.
		So I just want to get your take on that if you've actually heard of that.
		I think it's pretty It's a pretty weird that Hollywood can come out with all these, you know, quote conspiracy theorists theories in a TV show for the math and try to you know Take away from what's really going on.
		I just want to get your take on that Uh, yeah, yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's very interesting.
		I actually thought you were talking about a different show, but I do remember Utopia, and I remember it, you know, really paralleling all this sort of stuff.
		I mean, it makes perfect sense that, um...
		They would want to put this out as a piece of fiction, as an outrageous, you know, clearly fictional account of something happening.
		So then if people actually talk about this actually happening, it's like, oh yeah, right, I've seen that in the X-Files, right?
		Yeah, right, I've seen that in that sci-fi show I saw.
		That's not real, that's fiction.
		Well, it can also be real.
		You know, it's also, to me, it's super interesting because so many of these concepts that we talk about actually happening in real life happen in Hollywood movies.
		So it's like the people in Hollywood can conceptualize how this could happen and they make it a believable situation where you can understand the motivations of everybody involved and how this type of operation would be carried out.
		And then, you know, you point out like, well, you know, this is actually happening in certain cases.
		And they're just like, yeah, right.
		That's stupid.
		That would never happen.
		It's like you made the video that, you know, you made the movie that showed how it could happen.
		Now, I understand that was fiction, but you're definitely drawing from something and the emotions and reaction and situation has to be at least believable enough to suspend disbelief for the people watching the show.
		So clearly there's something there.
		And yeah, you can, you know, you can glean a lot of truth from from fiction, sometimes more truth from fiction than from the nonfiction selections there.
		Thanks for the call, Jordan.
		I'll have to check out that series.
		I haven't actually watched it yet.
		Let's go quickly.
		We got a little over a minute left.
		Let's go to Kevin in Florida.
		Who's been holding on for a little while, talking about the fake alien invasion.
		Hey, there's another topic right along with what we were just talking about.
		Something we've seen in movies many, many times that have primed people's awareness and prepared them for what they assume an alien invasion or landing or contact would be like.
		And now they've set that stage and they can exploit those assumptions to their own benefit.
		Thanks for calling in, Kevin.
		You're on the air.
unidentified		Hey, good morning.
		Good morning.
		How are you?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Good morning.
		Thank you.
		I'm good.
unidentified		Good, good.
		I'm fir—actually, no, not first-time caller.
		Long-time listener, never could get a hold of anybody.
		Live in the great state of Florida, I guess the heart of America nowadays.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're on the air now and you got about one minute before we go to bed.
unidentified		Yeah, man, I'll lay it out for you.
		So point blank, period.
		At the end of the day, like everything's all fine and dandy, but people need to really realize I feel that there is something coming down the pipe.
		You know, you can look at the Space Needle and what Seattle did going into 2021.
		And that should show you the technology that they're showing to the, you know, to the average person.
		What is that really?
		What do they really have in store for us?
		You know, so that's something that I'm a little weary about.
		And then going with the movies, You know, movies like, uh, after listening to Greer, I finally decided to watch a little bit of Stranger Things, to which it just blew my mind, and then you go into Cabin in the Woods-type movies, where you think it's some cheesy horror film, and it turns into some scenario where there's monsters being, you know, integrated into the physical realm with doctors in a control booth somewhere.
		I mean, you know, at the end of the day, if someone pulls up to my house with black shades, you know, I may think he's, you know, Men in Black, because I've been indoctrinated to think that way.
		But no, I mean, at the end of the day, I think people need to really, really take a look at what's taking place.
		I challenge you guys.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And be prepared for them to use these tools to attempt to trick us into submission.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get out.
unidentified		You're listening to The American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
		Watch it live right now at band.video.
		Welcome back, folks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Third hour of American Journal has begun.
		My guest is Mike Shelby.
		He's an intelligence expert, a former intelligence NCO and contractor.
		He runs Forward Observer, a private threat intelligence firm that focuses on low-intensity conflict.
		You can catch the daily briefing titled Early Warning Show on YouTube by subscribing to Forward Observer or by going straight to the source at forwardobserver.com.
		His Twitter is at grayzonewarlord.
		It's YouTube Forward Observer and his website forwardobserver.com.
		Thank you so much for coming on.
		Welcome, Mike Shelby.
unidentified		Hey, good morning, Harrison.
unidentified		How are you?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing quite, quite well, sir.
		Although I'm just I'm baffled at everything going on in the world today and hoping that you can help me wrap my mind about how we deal with it.
		And in particular, of course, the this phrase low intensity conflict that you point out that that seems like exactly what we are embroiled in here in America, the slow boiling of a frog.
		Sure.
		Well, it's a defense and army term.
		There's an entire doctrine around low-intensity conflict.
		Sure.
unidentified		Well, it's a defense and army term.
		There's an entire doctrine around low intensity conflict.
		There's manuals written about this stuff.
		And it is conflict below the threshold of conventional war.
		So we're not talking about tanks and bombers, but it is above routine, peaceful competition.
		Some people have referred to it as hybrid conflict or gray zone conflict or gray zone warfare, and it is how you prosecute a war.
		Through harassment and, you know, sometimes intimidation, political warfare, economic warfare, information warfare.
		And it never escalates to the point where, you know, we're dropping bombs on each other.
		And, you know, we look at a lot of the types of warfare that are happening in this country.
		They're really below the limit of detection in a lot of cases.
		You know, sometimes they are overt, but they're getting as close to the line It's not to say that we won't have a phase of higher intensity conflict, but, you know, people say, oh, this, you know, talk about an American Civil War in the future, Civil War 2.0.
		It's already started.
		We're just in the low intensity conflict phase.
		And that by far, that right there is the most important thing to understand about what's happening in the United States today.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I think you're exactly right.
		We're seeing the operations being carried out in real time, and to me the most frustrating thing is we can't really do anything about it, right?
		You know, maybe this is an aspect of low-intensity conflict where because we are not in power, because the people in power are stridently, ardently opposed to us regular Americans who just want liberty and freedom and not to be controlled and told what to do, But they're going after us incredibly aggressively.
		I mean, you know, co-workers with their door kicked in in the middle of the night by the FBI.
		Pregnant single mothers being hauled off and kept for a week in prison.
		I mean, these are intense operations against us, and yet we are incapable of responding.
		Not because we don't have the capability to do so, but because in doing so, we would immediately ratchet it up to that high level of conflict, and we would suffer even more.
		This is what I'm struggling with, is understanding that we're in low-intensity conflict and not knowing how to respond or react to it.
unidentified		Does that make sense?
		Yeah, I do.
		And I actually do think that we do lack some capabilities that particularly the left has, that the cultural revolution is employing.
		One of those is the ability to inform and influence.
		You know, you look at the mainstream media and pop culture, and it's a constant barrage of messaging and narrative setting.
		And it's very difficult for us, kind of at the grassroots level, you know, patriots and, you know, liberty-minded individuals to really push back.
		And so, you know, not having that avenue at the national level, is a massive vulnerability for us.
		And so what we really have to do is, how can we prosecute low-intensity conflict at the local level?
		Because that's where things really, you know, that's where things are of immediate impact on us.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right, and where we can actually make a difference or fight back in some regard, because it's a little bit more leveled in that aspect.
		Very interesting stuff.
		Okay, we'll continue in one minute, folks.
		Don't go anywhere.
		Mike Shelby is my guest, Grayzone Warlord.
unidentified		You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
unidentified		Watch live right now at band.video.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back, folks.
		American Journal, third hour, brought to you by infowarsstore.com.
		My guest is Mike Shelby, former intelligence NCO and contractor.
		And judging on the first five minutes, I have the feeling that you and I, Mike, could have very, very long conversations about this because there's so many details to get into and so many different aspects to unfold on all of this.
		I will tell people that they can catch your daily briefing titled The Early Warning Show on YouTube by subscribing to Forward Observer or by going to ForwardObserver.com.
		Your Twitter is GrayZoneWarlord, and that's gray spelled with an A, GrayZoneWarlord on YouTube.
		On Twitter, rather, your YouTube is Forward Observer, and your website is Forward Observer as well as a private threat intelligence firm focusing on low-intensity conflict, which is what we are now embroiled in here in America.
		Now, you talked about the inform and influence aspect of that low-intensity conflict in that the forces that are arrayed against us, right, against the American people and against, you know, the dissident political sphere have overused.
		Overwhelming ability to inform and influence the people of America on a national scale.
		Is that just one aspect of the low-intensity conflict, right?
		That's the media propaganda aspect of it.
		What are some other aspects of the low-intensity conflict?
unidentified		Yeah, there's political warfare.
		So, you know, the soft coup, things that were going around in the last election, you know, very, very intense political warfare.
		There's information warfare, which we just talked about.
		Another big one is economic warfare.
		And this primarily happens through economic dislocation.
		OK, InfoWars is no stranger to that.
		You know, that coordinated effort over the past, you know, what, three or four or five years?
		Yeah.
		To try to, you know, limit your reach.
		And economic dislocation is trying to separate a target from his or the organization's income.
		And you know, they, they do that through, you know, cancel culture through getting people fired from their jobs.
		And this is the indirect method of warfare, right?
		I mean, they're not like, I mean, at least right now, you know, they're not going out and trying to kill you, but what they're trying to do is limit your capabilities.
		And so, you know, you don't have an income or they, you know, or you run a company and they chop off half your revenue.
		Cause you're no longer on YouTube.
		They kick you off social media and they're trying to, you know, they're trying to end you as an entity.
		And, you know, economic dislocation is one very, very popular way they do that.
		It's a very effective way that they do that.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And it's not necessarily, as you point out, it's not necessarily about shutting us down outright, but it can be about just sort of sanding down those sharp edges.
		Right.
		Just making it a little bit more difficult.
		They can still do what they're doing, but it's just a little bit harder for them.
		They'll just be a little bit less successful than, you know, their opponent who is not under these strictures, right?
		So it's not necessarily about going for the death blow, as you point out, but more about just sort of slowly wearing away at the enemy.
		And so in a way, it's a war of attrition that we're under here.
unidentified		It is, yeah.
		They're trying to erode capabilities.
		And you know, this is we call it indirect warfare, you know, this may actually be a form of guerrilla warfare, where, you know, you're, you're indirectly you're attacking logistic systems and communication, lines of communication and supply lines.
		And yeah, there can be troops out there in the field trying to fight this war.
		But if they run out of bullets, they run out of food, they can't get parts for their gun trucks, you know, you wear down, you wear them down logistically, and you degrade their operations, then what, what good are they once they run out of bullets?
		You know, what good are they, if they can't get fuel out to their gun, you know, gun trucks, they're static.
		And that's, you know, that's exactly what guerrillas try to do to a much larger opponent.
		And we're seeing I mean, basically guerrilla warfare, but on a low-intensity conflict level, not using arms per se yet, but really just attacking the support and sustenance capabilities of individuals and organizations, yeah.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right, and that's a tactic that has been ubiquitous throughout warfare for all of time, right?
		I mean, from Napoleon taking the Grand Army into Russia and coming out of a scraggly mess to, you know, bombing the, um, what, you know, that's where the term the home front came out of, right?
		Because you weren't bombing the actual soldiers with the weapons, but you were bombing the capability to produce the weapons for the soldiers to wield on the field.
		So, uh, it's completely making sense to me how what we're experiencing now is a form of low-intensity conflict or low-intensity warfare.
		Now, you also have on Forward Observer, you explain this sort of stuff, the three-part insurgency.
		Since you brought up the guerrilla tactics, the three-part insurgency, as you break it down, is the auxiliary, the underground, and the guerrilla.
		Can you walk us through the three parts of this insurgency?
		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah, absolutely.
		So I spent three years in Iraq and Afghanistan, so very familiar with and counterinsurgency and it's pretty amazing.
		Back in 2016, I started tracking leftist groups.
		And, you know, it's very easy to see a protest or see riots and rioters out there.
		But that's only one part of this active organization.
		A lot of the things that they do is actually difficult to observe unless you know exactly what you're looking for.
		So in this instance, the direct action demonstrations of people burning down police precincts and actually too, you think about what these leftist groups are doing out in the streets.
		I mean, some of them are armed, but they're attacking police officers with fireworks and shining lights in their faces.
		And they're trying to provoke a response.
		They're trying to provoke a shooting by police, another Kent State or something like that, because that is part of the narrative.
		The chief goal of the insurgent is to provoke overreactions.
		By, you know, by the, you know, the existing power by the status quo, in this case, you know, by law enforcement or the National Guard, because that's exploitable.
		Right.
		So, so, you know, that's the, that was the, you know, in our case, that's kind of the guerrilla element.
		But there's also the auxiliary and the underground and the underground is involved in political subversion and sabotage, a lot of other things, intelligence and security, and then the auxiliary Is, um, well, in the army, we would call that combat service support.
		So, uh, medical security information, you know, intelligence gathering.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So you have, so you have like, um, no, I just, just, I'm just sorry to cut you off here, but this is making perfect sense to me that you have like taking Antifa on the ground in Portland, you have, they are the guerrilla troops there on the ground, actually trying to provoke a response and, uh, acting in small groups to, to cause minor destruction.
		Um, That's the guerrilla aspect.
		You have the underground aspect, which may be like the political machinations going on behind the scenes that are preventing the police from actually cracking down, right?
		You're giving Antifa cover by the movements you're taking in City Hall in Portland there.
		And then you have the auxiliary support, which is like the NGOs that then bail out Antifa once they get arrested, right?
		So that would be these three parts working in coordination to continuously riot with no consequence.
		Is that fairly accurate?
unidentified		Yes, loosely.
		Yeah, you're absolutely on the right track there.
		That is a very good way to understand what's happening with these leftist groups today.
		Yes.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Wow, yeah, it's, you know, I was talking earlier about how, you know, as much as we despise, and I'm not speaking for you here, but as much as I despise the left, I have to admit they're really good at naming things.
		They're very good at coming up with terms that sound nice to people's support.
		That's what I like about your work is you have these terms.
		I don't know if you've come up with them or if they're military jargon that's, you know, fairly well known.
		I imagine they are.
		You really can't understand a concept until you name it, until you label it, and it all becomes so clear what we're experiencing when you put these terms like low-intensity conflict and the three-part insurgency.
		Now, we haven't gotten to the local aspect of the low-intensity conflict and how people can get involved and fight back from being attacked, but let me ask you, does the low-intensity conflict always Pressage a higher intensity conflict or can it just stay at that simmer for a really long time until the goals of the combatants is achieved?
unidentified		Yeah, it can simmer, you know, you go back and you look at other civil wars and you know that we might classify as low intensity conflict and there's open warfare in many of them.
		Okay, like so, you know that the Chechen insurgency.
		The Bosnian-Kosovar conflict.
		But in a lot of these cases, we're talking about less than 1% of a population actively involved in conflict at some level.
		And so these things can simmer, and they can become higher intensity, but typically when we say high-intensity conflict, we're talking about conventional war.
		So guerrilla action, a civil war that really is what we might call irregular, That's low intensity conflict.
		And yeah, it doesn't have to, you know, we don't have to involve tanks and bombers and, you know, put armed troops out in the streets.
		I mean, Northern Ireland, you know, the Irish conflict is a very good example of a low intensity conflict that had elements of conventional warfare, but really was primarily A primarily irregular low-intensity conflict.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because you don't have to take that up to that level.
		If you can still achieve your goals, you can stay at that low intensity.
		Back to American Journal, ladies and gentlemen, my guest is Mike Shelby.
		He's a former intelligence NCO and contractor.
		His Twitter is at grayzonewarlord, and that's G-R-A-Y, grayzonewarlord.
		His YouTube is Forward Observer.
		His website is Forward Observer, and Forward Observer is a private threat intelligence firm that focuses on low-intensity conflict, and that is the topic of today's interview.
		I'm finding this incredibly fascinating and informative, and I hope our audience is as well.
		So we've covered the idea of what low-intensity conflict is, the three-part insurgency, and how these three, this sort of triangle of support, and then people on the ground, it's auxiliary, the underground movement, and then the guerrilla fighters.
		There's also something else that you talk about in Forward Observer, which is the tooth-to-tail ratio.
		Can you explain to us what this term means, Mike?
unidentified		Sure.
		Yeah, tooth-to-tail ratio.
		is the ratio of support troops to combat arms troops or, you know, trigger pullers in the army.
		Doctrinally, that's been seven to one.
		So it takes seven support troops to field every one, you know, infantry soldier.
		So, you know, we think about the infantry out in the field, right?
		They're kicking down doors, they're manning checkpoints, they're doing infantry stuff, and they don't have time to cook their own food.
		They can't fix their own gun trucks.
		You know, they can't procure their own ammo.
		So they need support people To help them, you know, supply them for their operations.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		And, you know, doctrinally, that's supposed to be seven to one.
		Well, in Iraq and Afghanistan, it was something like 20 to 30 support troops for every one combat arms troop.
		And a few years ago, I kind of theorized, I said, you know, look, if you have 20, 20 black bloc members out in Portland or wherever, And, you know, now it's more like 50 or 100 plus.
		But the important thing to understand here is that they don't follow this doctrine.
		They don't follow army doctrine, but they have the same application of support to direct action.
		And so the question is, if you have 50-person black block being fielded, what does their support element look like?
		And so they have medical and they have intelligence.
		Actually, last year was a very important time for them because they developed a very robust intelligence capacity.
		And, you know, they have supply and they have, you know, crowdfunding and they have legal representation.
		And so they absolutely are building their own tooth to tail ratio.
		And the question is, you know, is it two to one?
		Is it three to one?
		Is it five to one?
		Is it 10 to one?
		The thing is, once it becomes, you know, once it goes from two to one to five to one, what do you think that does to their operational capacity?
		When it goes from five to one to 10 to one, what do you think about, you know, what do you think What do you think the end results will be for operations?
		Sure.
		The only reason, the only reason why Portland had 120 to 150 days straight of writing and direct action last year, the only reason is because they had support elements behind them.
		And that's what I'm trying to explain to people is it's not just these guys out in the streets, right?
		They have people online, they have people in the rear, so to speak.
		They have their own tooth-to-tail ratio, and as that grows, their operations will become more sustained, and they'll also be able to have a higher op tempo, or higher operational tempo.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, and you're exactly right.
		We really saw that come to fruition in things like CHAZ.
		I mean, you would have...
		Just as you point out, I mean, almost like supply chains.
		You would have, like, food trucks showing up to feed the rioters.
		They weren't participating in the riots, but they were vital to the riots being able to take place.
		And, of course, we know through leaked chat logs and stuff, they have entire, like, lawyer systems, like, entire organizations full of lawyers that are just sitting on call, ready and willing to take the case.
		And then you have the people funding those lawyers, actually paying for them, because people in BlackBlock They don't have any money.
		I mean, they're just out there, you know, doing drugs and burning buildings down.
		Not a lot of profit in that.
		So instead, you have billionaires who are paying for the lawyers who are on call to bail them out.
		And so they're able to, you know, achieve these great things.
		I mean, it's kind of a joke how much it's, I mean...
		It's actually kind of funny, isn't it?
		I mean, they have so much support behind them, and yet they achieve nothing.
		I mean, they just are burning things down.
		But I guess this is an aspect of the low-intensity conflict, right?
		They're not really trying to achieve any one particular goal.
		They are on a mission of sustained destruction, sustained low-intensity aggravation with a long-term goal in mind.
		Is that right, Mike?
unidentified		Yeah, a lot of these groups are abolitionists.
		So they're, you know, they are leftist anarchists or anarcho-communists.
		However, you can make those two words fit together.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I don't really understand.
unidentified		Yeah, but, but they are trying to bring down the government.
		They're trying to bring down, you know, capitalism, and they're trying to overturn society.
		And, you know, so the Chas and these autonomous zones, you know, that, that actually is pretty important.
		Because what do gorillas seek to do?
		So there's also three phases of an insurgency, right?
		And so we're still in phase one right now, which is the latent and incipient phase.
		And so, you know, they're building coordination, they're building support systems.
		Phase two would be open armed conflict.
		And that is the point at which Gorillas try to take and hold land.
		They try to seize land, seize territory for themselves.
		And what is an autonomous zone, but trying to kick out government, trying to kick out law enforcement and seize that area for yourself.
		So they are trying to break out of phase one.
		And so, you know, this is, This is happening primarily in Portland and Seattle, although we have seen other autonomous zones try to get off the ground in, like, Nashville and I think D.C.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		and maybe a couple other places.
		Minneapolis, I think, is where George Floyd was killed.
		So those are the first two phases.
		The latent phase, then the open conflict.
		What would be phase three of that, then?
unidentified		Yeah, the phase three would be kind of consolidation.
		This is where guerrillas become the conventional force.
		They've taken land, they've taken over, they're establishing their own political systems.
		Instead of subversion and insurgency and guerrilla warfare, they're now in charge.
		So yeah, so phase three is basically more conventional.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so you have to fulfill the first two phases and then once sort of those succeed, then we move on to the third phase, which is the consolidation and sort of maximization of everything they've been able to establish.
unidentified		Yeah, once you succeed in overturning the political establishment and gaining control of an area, now you have to defend it, and that's phase three.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		In summation.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so what's so interesting to me about this conversation is that It's almost to imagine if this was happening in a different country and imagine how America would be talking about this happening in a different country.
		Here, it's like, well, Antifa is an idea.
		It doesn't even exist.
		I mean, it's insane the way we're talking about it here.
		But if in Iraq or if in Afghanistan or if in Switzerland even, if there were, you know, groups of these insurgent troops, you know, declaring independence from the government, I mean, What I like about this is that you're using the terms that we're familiar with from overseas military to put into context what's really happening here in reality.
		Can you talk a little bit about that, about how what's happening here has happened in other places and how it might look to the outside observer?
unidentified		Sure.
		One of the more interesting developments in an insurgency, look, most insurgencies end in a stalemate, okay?
		It's infrequently that one side or the other wins outright.
		So typically there's a stalemate, there are political concessions.
		A lot of time these insurgent groups have, they gain political representation in whatever country they're in.
		And so, you know, like we saw in Ireland and especially in Iraq.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Lebanon with Hezbollah now has a lot of people in the government.
unidentified		Absolutely, yes.
		So there's a political wing, and then there's the militant wing.
		And really, they're holding hands under the table.
		And a lot of times, they can't say, oh, yeah, well, we're actually the same organization, or we're just two wings of the same organization.
		And so the next phase is, for some of these groups, how do they build political representation and also have the militant wing?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And I think they've really achieved that in a lot of ways.
		This is such a fascinating conversation.
		Stay with us, folks.
unidentified		folks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Mike Shelby.
unidentified		You're watching the American Journal with your host, Harrison Smith.
unidentified		Watch live right now at Band.Video.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
		American Journal on Infowars.com and Band.Video.
		I'm trying to re-establish a...
		I'm trying to retread the rabbit hole that I went down sometime last year.
		My guest is Mike Shelby.
		He's a former intelligence NCO.
		He runs Forward Observer, a private threat intelligence firm that focuses on low-intensity conflict.
		His Twitter is at grayzonewarlord, his YouTube is forwardobserver, his website forwardobserver.com.
		Every time I hear the word insurgency or counterinsurgency, of course, it brings to mind Iraq.
		And I'm trying to remember the, again, the path that I went down, because I think it was when I was researching Lockstep.
		The Lockstep document from the Rockefeller Foundation was written in coordination with the Global Business Network, which is led by Peter Schwartz, who is a member of the Center for the New American Security, which came out with the FM32, which was the counterinsurgency manual that changed the game which was the counterinsurgency manual that changed the game on the ground in Iraq and that I believe was sort of set the groundwork for forever wars, right?
		Because it changed the concept of counterinsurgency from something that had an achievable goal that you went towards and then completed to something that was an ongoing process where you weren't sending troops in to solve a problem or take care of something and then getting them out instead.
		Instead, you were sending troops in to support troops that were there forever.
		Long story short, you know, all of this is tied in together.
		It's all sort of, it's the same people kind of making the same plays.
		And so I guess what I'm wondering is, How does count how does the concept of counterinsurgency as has developed over the last 20 years of warfare in Iraq, where so many of these tactics have been developed and then deployed?
		How does that relate to what's going on nowadays?
		And, you know, who's the insurgency and who's the counterinsurgency in America these days?
		I almost don't even know is Antifa the insurgent and the government the counterinsurgency, but they seem to be working together.
		So are we the insurgency and they're the counter?
		I mean, tell me wrap my mind around this Mike.
		Yeah, that's a good question.
		It's like, here's 10,000 topics.
		Here, talk on them, Mike.
		But I mean, they are all very intertwined, aren't they?
unidentified		Yeah.
		Well, OK, so basically every 48 years, we get a new flavor of the political establishment.
		I would say at this point, And look, really, we're dealing with at least three separate entities here.
		There's the political establishment or the elites.
		And then you have the far left.
		And the far left may be a vehicle for elites, but they're not friends.
		There may be some elites that support Antifa, but Antifa does not support the elites.
		They want a flat society, no income, You know, anarcho-communism in some cases and, you know, in other cases, socialism.
		And then you have us.
		So really, I think right now, with the cultural revolution going on, really the people who are prosecuting this low-intensity conflict are responsible for the ramp-up.
		That is the revolution.
		And I would say we on the right, generally speaking, are the counter-revolutionaries right now.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so that brings us back to a question we asked in the first segment that you were on, which is how we, the Info Warriors ourselves, treat this.
		How we approach this low-intensity conflict, especially since we are sort of the target of overwhelming Censorship and surveillance and now, you know, outright oppression from things like the National Guard and the FBI targeting patriot groups exclusively in America, leaving the left as you're actually causing damage to run rampant.
		How do we deal with this on a local level?
		And just how do you explain the fact that the FBI and the National Guard is cracking down so heavily on patriot groups these days?
unidentified		Well, It's a deep question.
unidentified		I know.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I'm throwing the curveballs at you here.
unidentified		So I mean, I think this is this is like, you know, talk about dog whistles.
		I think this is the ultimate dog whistle.
		You know, you spend any time in the army and are there different ideologies?
		Yes.
		Should they be involved?
		Uh, in inside the army, you know, probably not.
		Um, but I actually don't think, look, you just had the, the generals of, or the generals in charge of us strategic command.
		And one other one say there is no white supremacist problem in our ranks.
		We would have identified them and kick them out by now.
		And so, you know how, I mean, I just don't, I don't see white supremacy as being endemic in the army.
		Um, I mean, there may, you know, You're going to get flavors of all ideologies in the army.
		So I think that really is a dog whistle for more for greater purges.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Right.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Because that's exactly what they're doing.
		They're claiming it's white supremacy.
		And then they're saying, well, Pepe the Frog or, you know, basically supporting Donald Trump.
		I mean, it's clearly a code word.
		Clearly, they're not actually worried about that.
		Just like I don't think they're actually convinced that domestic White supremacist terror is the most dangerous thing or most destructive thing happening in the country right now.
		It's just what they need to use to justify their actions and knowing that most people will be scared to say, hey, don't do that to the white supremacists.
		Like, you know, call them white supremacists.
		They can do whatever the heck they want to them.
		It's about demonizing and destroying your enemies.
		So what can we do on a local level to fight back against this?
		Because it seems like the local level may be our best hope.
unidentified		Well, the first thing you have to do is find what we call indicators.
		Those are observable or potentially observable clues.
		One of the best ways to do that is just to get on Twitter and on social media and start looking for groups for, you know, political action committees or political or social groups that are on the far left.
		And I'm not talking about, you know, your liberal aunts, you know, county Democrats meeting, although that may be a good place to start, too.
		You know, I'm talking about the socialists and communists and anarcho-communist organizations that exist out there.
		And figure out what they're doing.
		Go and read their literature.
		A lot of the, you know, some of these groups have websites and they distribute literature.
		And so, you know, reading that will allow you to really understand what they're trying to achieve.
		And then you look at their end state or their end goals, and you look at where they are now, And you start to brainstorm.
		Okay.
		What does this section look like?
		You know, where do they observe what they're doing now?
		Observe what they need to do in order to achieve their goals.
		And then you begin looking in those places.
		And then that's really how you can judge how far along they are, or, you know, maybe even what they're going to be doing next.
		And once then, once you identify that, um, you know, then you have to get the community involved, you know, a lot.
		So, you know, I live in central Texas and, um, You know, a lot of the things that are happening that are really affecting us.
		I don't really care what what Biden or Pelosi has to say.
		I what I really care about is, you know, what our local judges are doing.
		You know, what our local what our local governments is government is doing.
		And you look at what the far left is doing and in the cultural revolution and they're being I mean, they're incredibly effective.
		We have to kind of reverse engineer what they're doing against us and then employ that for our side on the local level.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, especially in Austin.
		I mean, Austin is like ground zero for this type of stuff, where the far left has basically completely taken control of the city government and are implementing their policies regardless of how the people actually in town feel about it.
		And then, you know, just...
		Hundreds of millions of dollars being funneled to far leftist organizations just straight up out of like the police department funds.
		I mean, what they're able to achieve is incredible.
		And it seems like no matter how, I mean, even just now we had the Prop B vote and they're basically just pushing forward like the socialists who were hard, you know, hard line against Prop B. They saw Prop B pass and they came out and said, yeah, so we were right.
		And we'll just keep doing what we were doing already.
		It's like, so the will of the people clearly, is totally inconsequential when compared against the desires of the far leftist.
		So how do we start to re-engineer that or reverse-engineer that?
unidentified		Well, the socialists have a concept called dual power, and they obviously can't abandon political attempts, so they continue on the political track.
		to achieve political power, but they also are building social power.
		And that's the concept of dual power.
		You have political power, but then you also have social influence that can help you achieve political goals.
		But really what that is is community organizing.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		And now all of a sudden, okay, they've been doing this for several decades now professionally.
		And so that's been very effective.
		Why can't we on the right do that?
		Like, what's preventing us from having a dual power strategy as well?
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have jobs, Mike.
		We have jobs.
		We don't have endless time to spend perpetuating our ideologies.
		But no, you're exactly right.
		right i want to get more into this on the other side how we reverse engineer the operations that have been carried out under our all right folks uh Final segment of American Journal on Infowars.com and Band.video.
		I really do hope that you share our videos from today, especially this interview, because I really feel like it's been so informative and really helps to put a...
		Put into obvious and appropriate terms, the threat that the American people are under right now.
		Mike Shelby and I have interacted quite a bit.
		We met each other a couple years ago, I guess, and on Twitter, he's a great resource.
		His Twitter is grayzonewarlord, and that's gray with an A. Grayzonewarlord is his Twitter handle.
		His YouTube is Forward Observer.
		His website is forwardobserver.com.
		I hope you're having a good time, Mike, and I hope that maybe you could come on like once a month.
		I mean, I think we need regular updates on this sort of stuff.
		I find this incredibly fascinating.
unidentified		Yeah, sure.
		I'd love to.
		Actually, I think the last time we hung out, we were having drinks with Roger Stone.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		I think that was a little while ago, back when we didn't realize how bad things were going to get.
		And the crew has questions for you, so we'll try to fit a lot into this final segment here.
		At the end of that last segment, we were talking about how we wake people up to this threat that we're under and how we fight back.
		I think it's a great idea to not even necessarily infiltrate, but I think infiltration of Antifa is not that difficult.
		Even just this week, there was some undercover video that came out of a guy who was able to infiltrate Antifa or the Black Block and able to publish some of what they were talking about behind the scenes.
		And that really did a lot of damage to them.
		I think we need to crowdsource this intelligence network.
		If we have InfoWarriors that are out there that can get online and get into these groups or private messaging groups or whatever, they have the FBI and the National Guard doing this sort of stuff to Patriot groups.
		Well, I guess we need Patriots to be doing it to their guerrilla troops in Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
		I think that's great.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah, so some of this is very possible.
		Really, we're dealing with primarily two forms of intelligence collection.
		One is open source, which is exploitable very easily.
		There are some closed, they do have access, what we would call access controls to some of their more sensitive chats on Telegram and Signal and stuff like that.
		But a lot of this stuff is open, especially social media, and that can be exploited very easily.
		Antifa employs things called affinity groups, which are small, kind of tight-knit groups, almost like a cellular, you know, a terrorist or an insurgent group.
		And a lot of times they are cellular based.
		So they're groups of five to ten people.
		And these affinity groups, you know, many of them have known each other for a long time.
		They are in contact with each other frequently.
		And so, you know, a group of five to 10 people closed off group, that's really not something that you're going to infiltrate very easily.
		That said, there are, they are autonomous and they're supposed to be anonymous.
		Many of them, um, even among, you know, through multiple affinity groups.
		And so, you know, there is some level of infiltration that can happen.
		We know law enforcement, um, there've been several instances in the past, a few past few months that we've covered where, Anti-fascist, you know, I'm not even gonna say anti-fascist, where Antifa's, yeah, where, you know, these Antifa black bloc groups were complaining about being infiltrated and they're trying to expel members and they're trying to increase, you know, kind of counterintelligence and be on the lookout for potential infiltrators.
		And so we have, you know, there have been former special operations guys that have gone just as private citizens, go dress, you know, all in black and go join the black bloc and hang out and observe and get Yeah.
		you know, get that firsthand experiential knowledge.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So and then and just briefly, law enforcement, too, has been able in a couple of instances.
unidentified		And, you know, that that may be Portland Police Bureau, but I'm willing to bet that it's that's actually probably FBI that's doing this.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, and you know, when we talk about low intensity conflict, you know, one of the things is that it's not about necessarily destroying it, right?
		You're not necessarily trying to get in to blow the whole thing apart.
		But just like how they, you know, will maybe take a payment processor here, they'll kick you off this website here, just make it that little bit more difficult for us to get our message out or for us to get support.
		We can sort of adopt that tactic where, you know, if they can just have these open groups or they can just send messages to 500 people, hey, here's what we're doing and here's when we're doing it, that's a very easy way to coordinate and organize.
		But if there's an infiltrator there and suddenly they can't use that group and they have to start using smaller groups to try to get their message out, it's just one more sort of step, one more little barrier, one more thing they have to worry about that will prevent them from being as effective.
		Maybe that's the way we need to approach this low-intensity conflict.
		What do you think about that?
unidentified		Yeah, there are ways that we can subvert them.
		There have been Antifa groups that have been kicked off of crowdsourcing websites.
		They're trying to raise donations to buy shields or buy medical equipment or whatever.
		A lot of the crowdsourcing they do is local.
		So the question is, okay, where do these platforms exist and what avenues are they using to crowdsourcing?
		And yes, if it's a website, then maybe we can go to their blog and look for some kind of, you know, incendiary comments and then we can just flood that crowdsource website with thousands of emails with screenshots and say, hey, look, you have revolutionaries who are promoting violence on your crowdsource website and maybe kick them off.
		The problem is a lot of the things that they do, Doing the financial stuff is difficult, obviously, not being able to see, you know, bank accounts and transactions and stuff.
		But I imagine some of these groups are partially funded by political action committees, far-left political action committees.
		So, you know, in that instance, well, how do you stop that, right?
		If this is essentially, you know, kind of black money, you know, how do you stop that?
		And then there's also the case of foreign funding.
		Are some of these groups funded by you know, for what we would call foreign adversaries.
		Is there any external support here?
		And that's another good question I haven't found.
		You know, I look at the I look at the capabilities and the gear that a lot of these black block Antifa groups have.
		And I just don't see a lot of evidence for external support.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's interesting.
		Although there certainly is a coordination and support.
		I mean, we've seen on hot mics, you know, leaders of the Black Lives Matter riots, like in conversation with producers for NBC News and that sort of stuff.
		And they know each other and they're coordinating and they're flying from state to state to coordinate this sort of stuff.
		So we've seen this and we can try to bring it to people's attention.
		But I'm also thinking like, you know, these people that are clearly doing things illegal.
		I mean, they're organizing purposeful, illegal or, you know, outings into the Portland to shatter things, that sort of stuff.
		And I almost think of it like the Sopranos or something where if they think that there's a mole in their group, suddenly they can't just hang out in their clubhouse and talk about all their criminal activity.
		They have to go, wait, one of you might be a mole.
		So I have to be really careful about who I say to what.
		So that's what I think sort of the value in just like just putting pressure on them is suddenly they can't just act with total impunity in the way that they have for a while.
		So we're getting down to the end here.
		And I want to.
		See if there's anything else that we need to talk about.
		The crew was asking about the books behind you.
		You clearly have a sizable bookshelf.
		What's some suggested reading that you can offer to our audience where they can look more into what you know about?
		Other than, of course, Forward Observer at forwardobserver.com.
unidentified		Yeah, it really depends.
		I would love to answer that question.
		Can I just say one thing about the way you should prosecute opposition?
		In Iraq and Afghanistan, you know, there's lots of IEDs.
		Those IEDs are in place by people you don't even know.
		Was it, you know, this idea was in place a week ago or a month ago?
		Who knows?
		We're dealing with nameless, faceless adversaries in many instances.
		And So the question is, you know, how do you de-anonymize an insurgent?
		How do you identify him?
		And so there's battlefield biometrics and ISR assets and, you know, obviously massive intelligence gathering push to identify who these people are.
		And that is what You know, if it's law enforcement or whoever's kind of conducting, I would say counterinsurgency against them, you have to identify these people because once you identify them, then they're more easily trackable.
		And then, um, you know, kind of what you're talking about, it really is a psychological operation.
		Um, you know, so how do you see doubt and how do you sow discord amongst these groups?
		And honestly, that's the FBI is very, very good at that.
		They've been doing that for right wing groups for a long, long time.
		And, um, actually, you know, you go back and you look at the history of what the FBI has done against against anarchists and communist groups.
		That goes all the way back to the 19-teens and the 1920s.
		You had the Palmer Raids, and you had deportation of anarchists and socialist immigrants in the United States.
		The question is, does the FBI have the wherewithal to do that today?
		And I'm not so sure.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Or the desire, yeah.
unidentified		Right.
		So I wrote a book called SHTF Intelligence back in 2015.
		It's basically, it's almost 200 pages long.
		It's basically a textbook on community intelligence.
		And I really approach it from the preparedness angle, like kind of the prepper or emergency preparedness angle.
		And so, you know, if you want to learn about intelligence gathering, For emergency preparedness and community security, that's a good place to start.
		A book I'm reading right now is very fascinating.
		It's by Peter Turchin.
		He's written a number of good books.
		But Historical Dynamics talks about the rise and fall of states.
		He's also written a book called War and Peace and War, which is about the rise and fall of empires.
		And we are living through the collapse of the American empire.
		I'm almost certain of that.
		I'm not certain about many things.
		And maybe, you know, we can talk about that on another segment sometime.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're gonna have to have you back because I think it's so fascinating and of course the history buff in me gets excited because everything that we're seeing here is just reflections of things that have come before.
		I mean, human nature doesn't change in that regard.
		It just advances or evolves.
		It's really incredible stuff.
		Mike Shelby.
		Thanks for coming on, Mike.
		Yeah, thanks for having me.
		YouTube Forward Observer website, forwardobserver.com.
		I think this is exactly how we need to be thinking about this, as an insurgency versus a counterinsurgency, and I think that's brilliant.
		Thanks for coming on, Mike.
unidentified		Yeah, thanks for having me.
unidentified		Thanks, Eric.
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