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	This is March 19, 1997.
	And I'm Doe.
	Some called our partnership T and Doe.
	That's not my name, but that's how I'm referred to on planet Earth at this time.
	I've been talking to my students that are sitting in front of me about talking to you.
	And let me say that our mission here at this time is about to come to a close in the next few days.
	We came from distant space and even what some might call somewhat of another dimension.
	And we're about to return from whence we came.
	And I say that when we say we came from distant space, that we're talking about what your religious literature would call the kingdom of heaven or the kingdom of God.
	And we came for the express purpose to offer a doorway to the kingdom of God at the end of this civilization, the end of this age, the end of this millennium.
	And now that we're about to return, just a few things we wanted to say to you.
	And of course we are aware that if you have not been given an ingredient of knowledge, information by that kingdom, then you certainly will have no capacity to know that I'm telling you the truth or that this information has any validity.
	If you do know when you hear what we're talking about and when you study the information that we're leaving behind, that it has truth in it.
	And if you see yourself as a part of it, then you have to respond according to what you feel.
	We came from that time, that space entered this one.
	When we came, we had to take human bodies.
	We didn't take them as infants.
	We came into them in the mid-70s.
	My partner, T and I came into our vehicles a few years before we began to help these come into their bodies.
	We call them vehicles.
	And now it's time for us to leave the vehicles that we entered in the 70s.
	And you will likely, or many of you that might see this tape, will say, what do you mean, leave your bodies, our vehicles?
	Well, actually, these aren't our bodies, our vehicles.
	We borrowed these for the time that we were here for this specific task.
	And the task was not only to bring in information about that evolutionary kingdom level, but to give us the experience of working against the forces of what this evolutionary level, what the human evolutionary level at this time has become.
	And so it was a very good learning experience for us.
	And while it was a learning experience for us, it gave an opportunity for all who had ever received knowledge from that kingdom to have an opportunity to recognize us and this information and even move out of this kingdom and into the next level or that evolutionary level above human, the kingdom of heaven, space, kingdom of God.
	Now, we can't enter that kingdom by and no one can enter that kingdom by trying to live a good life in this world and then when this world's life takes your body, then that's when you enter.
	The only time that kingdom can be entered is when there's a member of that kingdom, member, or members of that kingdom, who have come into the human kingdom, incarnated as we have,
	and offer you clarification of that information, and then help you get your mind into your body, so that when the time comes to leave, then we help you also get out of your human body so that you might enter a body of the next evolutionary kingdom.
	And we're not talking about a spiritual body or some etheric body, even though the identity that we have is with our mind or our spirit, not with the suit of clothes that we wear.
	I'll say that again, the identity.
	We identify ourselves not by the suit that we wear, but by the mind that we are, the knowledge that we have.
	We actually identify with that mind, not with the suit of clothes.
	My partner and I had to leave bodies of in the evolutionary level above human.
	We had to leave those bodies in order to, in other words, set those bodies aside in order to come and incarnate in these bodies.
	Remind you again, we're not talking about at birth Of the body, we're talking about we incarnated into these bodies in the 70s, in the early 70s, and then helped these who had come for the specific purpose of this learning experience and helping us offer this information to others who might have some of that mind in them given to them from that evolutionary level.
	In other words, periodically that level comes in close enough and offers a graduation class, offers life out of this evolutionary level into that evolutionary level.
	And we're at the end of that time.
	Now, since we are about to leave, and I said that we're at the end of that time, doesn't mean that there might not possibly be some of you who are watching this tape who know that we're telling the truth and you can say, but wait a minute, you're leaving.
	I've never heard of you.
	Why are you leaving now?
	And I'm hearing about you for the first time.
	Well, that is not our fault.
	We have been here.
	We have made ourselves known to the public.
	We have held meetings.
	We have put out information, articles that have been printed in major newspapers that have gone world over for many years for the time that we have been here.
	And we've been ignored, or we've been called a UFO cult, or we've been called some new age cult, or, you know, you name it, whatever cult you want to call it, we've been called that.
	We're none of those things, but we can understand why someone would call us that when they do not have and have not been given the knowledge to see us for who we are and recognize what we can offer you.
	We didn't come here to blow ourselves up.
	We're unblown while we're in the human kingdom.
	We could not be in more modest circumstance than to have on human suit of clothes for the time that we are here.
	Now we're about to step out of the human clothes that we are wearing.
	And you could say, well, why would you do such a thing as that?
	You mean you're going to go commit suicide?
	Well, I'm afraid I have to give you, we have a website, and on that website called Heaven's Gate, we have a little category in there that you can key on, and it says what we believe concerning suicide or why we're against suicide.
	I don't remember the exact title.
	But it explains that to us, suicide is when you have had life because you've connected with, you have received mind from the kingdom level above human, and you have been given that awakening mind so that you are aware of the truth about that kingdom level and therefore have an opportunity to move out of the human kingdom into that kingdom level.
	And then when you turn against that or when you cannot do what is required to identify with the mind and not with the body, can identify as something that is of that kingdom and not of this kingdom.
	If you can succeed at that and find no value of life here, but see this only as a training ground and as a stepping stone to move into that kingdom level, when if that can occur to you, then you can go into that kingdom.
	And like I said earlier or a few minutes ago, that is periodically offered.
	Now, if you're viewing this right now and you're hearing what I'm saying, and you might, after hearing this, you might go read the information and then you might say, goodness, that's me and they've gone.
	If you act quickly and you leave this world of your own choice, what?
	Go commit suicide?
	Suicide is separating from the kingdom of God when the kingdom of God has reached out and offered life to you.
	That is suicide.
	So to us, it would be suicide to not leave.
	It is suicide to not leave.
	It is to take life to leave this body behind.
	It is to significantly take life.
	This is not life to us.
	This is like living in a civilization that is of history, that is barbaric, that is primitive in comparison to the civilization of the level above human.
	The kingdom of God, we said, the kingdom of heaven, as it says in your history books or your religious material.
	So we are about to regain life, and we hope that our lesson time here has made us stronger and able for better service in that kingdom level.
	And we hope that we have also, while here, served in some capacity to help others or all that might want to take advantage of the fact they have been given the gift of life.
	We hope that we have adequately fulfilled our position as service to the next level while being here.
	We feel, if anything, we've almost overstayed our time here and that we're going back and leaving this world just on the tail end of that window, if I can speak of it that way.
	Now, we feel that the planet, the life forms on the planet, the civilization on the planet, and much of the life, vegetation, everything of the planet is about to be recycled because it needs to be refurbished and can have another civilization.
	It's funny that the human kingdom has never really awakened to the fact that when the archaeologists find bones and there are so many thousands and so many millions of years old, they've Never really realized that those were cycles of civilizations that were still buried in the refurbishing preparation for another cycle.
	Instead, they see all of that as one civilization that is gone all of that time, at least most of them do.
	Not that that's of any importance.
	The issue is, you're going to hear about our exit in the news about these individuals who committed suicide.
	We're going to tell you that those who write that kind of information are ignorant of the evolutionary level above human.
	They don't know how else to write because they have none of that knowledge in them.
	Or if they had it at one time, they rejected it.
	Every creature has the will to become what they choose to become.
	And if they choose to grow and choose to move up the ladder, then they can attract the attention of the evolutionary level above them in the same way that a dog who really looks like he wants a master can attract the attention of a master that can offer him an opportunity to serve in his evolutionary level.
	Of course, he can also become, after he's even been accepted in, he become a nasty dog that bites and whines and doesn't care to do his task any longer and can lose his position, which is, of course, the same way.
	There's always at every level of life form the option to become what we choose to become.
	Another interesting thing is that whatever we believe to be true is what is true for us.
	And just because you believe something for someone else, I mean you have no right, you have no knowledge to know what someone else is or what they're a part of or what their truth is.
	But I'm afraid, unfortunately, that what each individual truth is, is what their truth is.
	Though in reality, their truth may not get them anywhere close to what the level above human would call truth.
	Because the level above humans, truth is that the only purpose for the human kingdom at all is a temporary training ground.
	It's like sending souls to hell and have them rise above hell, rise above the addictions of everything of the human kingdom, and see through the human kingdom and grow to want the evolutionary level above the human kingdom so badly that everything in the human kingdom becomes distasteful to them.
	Every relationship they had, everything that their bodies had liked or was really addicted to, whether it was relationships or the pursuit of human knowledge or drugs or anything that they liked at the human kingdom, becomes an interference, becomes a stumbling block, and it gets to be hated because it's an interference.
	You know, so there was a representative here a couple thousand years ago that told those that he dealt with and said, you must hate everything of this world if you expect to go into my father's world.
	If you cling to life in this world, you will not know life in my father's world.
	Simple truth, always true, will always be true as far as human kingdom level in relationship to the kingdom of heaven or the evolutionary level above human.
	So the only reason we're doing this little tape right before our departure time is in case there are some that still might see this because this world has become so corrupt that the only way you can be a media event is to do something like what your world would translate a group suicide.
	Suddenly that's a media event.
	Now, it'll be a miracle if this tape ever is permitted to become knowledge that could spread across the world to even give individuals a chance to know what we have to say about what you might have been offered or what you might even still be offered if this connects with you.
	In other words, you can change rapidly.
	You can squeeze many years into a few days if your change can happen that fast.
	If you hated this world enough to leave it, everything about it just because you have heard this and you want to go into that next evolutionary level into what I consider my father's kingdom, my older members' kingdom.
	Now the humans have a crazy idea about what the kingdom of God is.
	They think the kingdom of God has one person in it.
	That's God.
	There is a kingdom of God like there is a kingdom of man.
	There are many members in that kingdom.
	And that does not mean that there is not a chief of chiefs.
	There is a chief of chiefs.
	There is one that is the top.
	But for a human to have any comprehension of the social structure of the chain of command in that evolutionary level is as hopeless of a reasonable task to understand as it is for a dog to understand the structure of organization at the human level.
	It just does not is not fathomable to human brain.
	And a human was not designed to understand it.
	A human can't even understand what goes on in the human kingdom.
	How could they expect to understand what goes on in the evolutionary kingdom level above them?
	Well, our cause here in visiting with you for a few minutes is simply to let you know we are returning to life from a visitation with death.
	We have been in a evolutionary level while visiting the human kingdom that is saturated with lies and misinformation, that would have you think that the kingdom of God is something that would have you do spirit healing or faith healing and have people fall over and think that's the kingdom of God or that God wants you to have a family and do all that,
	get addicted to society in this world.
	In my father's kingdom, there are no mammals.
	There are no humans.
	Now, their bodies and their individuals are very similar to these in many respects, very similar to human bodies, except more refined.
	They don't need fangs.
	They don't need waste of hair.
	They don't need a number of things that are used in this kingdom level because it's significantly more refined.
	There are no males, there are no females, there are no children.
	Because children come from the minds that are taken from the human kingdom from hell, from the mind of the next level that is inserted into a it's like the mind is grown in a human body.
	And when the mind grows enough to come into its own consciousness, disassociate with its chrysalis and know that it is not the chrysalis, that it is the mind, and that it wants only to return to its maker, the mind that was given to it.
	It wants to become a part of it, become service to it.
	Then it goes up and is a child.
	But it's not a child in the form of needing to be an infant.
	It can be of service.
	It is like a young adult and can serve in young adult ways.
	But it also, as it enters into service, is genderless, but very young and very inexperienced in that kingdom level and still has the capacity to exercise its free will, even to go astray, even to not continue in service to that level.
	Well, I don't intend to give you more sermons.
	You can read Heaven's Gate.
	You can read the book.
	You can tune into the website and learn about Heaven's Gate.
	The only thing that we're talking to you now about is to have you understand that we are returning to life.
	And we do, in all honesty, hate this world.
	I know that you've been taught not to hate this world.
	You can say, well, how can you say that you're of the kingdom of God when you aren't even humanitarian?
	Every individual in its growth pattern becomes humanitarian at a stage in that growth pattern.
	And then, as soon as they become literally aware of a kingdom level above the human kingdom, they have to pursue that kingdom level while a representative is present and pursue it with all that they have.
	And there is not a moment that they can be humanitarian during that time.
	Their humanitarian aspect has passed.
	You cannot maintain responsibility of families and units and tasks, whether it's environment or religion or anything at the human kingdom level, and make the graduation into the kingdom level above human.
	Well, I hope that you do look into what we're about.
	I'm going to stop this tape and we're going to tie it together with the tape.
	I want you to see the class that's sitting in front of me.
	And I'm very proud of these students of the kingdom of heaven, of the kingdom of God, of the evolutionary level above human.
	They're about to leave and they're excited about leaving.
	My older member was with me for this task for ten years.
	And then it was the right time for my older member to return to the evolutionary level above human.
	And in a few days, I'm going to see my older member and the crew members that work with my older member.
	And I'm very excited about that.
	I will be very glad to be shed of this suit of clothes that I am wearing.
	Everything that we vibrate on, everything that we do, all of our activity is so unhuman that we conflict with these bodies.
	These bodies that we are wearing, we can't keep them healthy because we do not participate in human behavior or what human behavior has become.
	And so it really does not jive with the minds that is in it.
	In a sense, we're body snatchers because we came and incarnated into these human bodies and now we're leaving these human bodies behind.
	I hope you don't take that as a crude joke.
	I mean, it is a joke, but I did not mean to be offensive about it.
	It was important.
	Jesus 2,000 years ago did exactly the same thing.
	Incarnated in his late 20s.
	And that's when he entered it.
	That's when he borrowed it.
	That's when he took it over.
	And then he laid it down.
	When he said, I have the authority to lay this body down, take this body up.
	In the same way, we had authority because we were of the evolutionary level above human.
	We had authority to put on this body, as we Did in the 70s.
	And now we have the authority to lay down this body.
	It is not ours.
	It does not jive with us.
	It has desires and impulses that are hideous to us.
	And we have to get control of that.
	We have to have that in such control that it does not interfere with us.
	Or we do our best to have that in that degree of control.
	The students that are in front of me are of various ages.
	I'm not talking about their bodies.
	I'm talking about their minds.
	Some of them have had more experience, more time to develop control.
	Some of them are significantly hindered by the vehicle that they are wearing, and it makes them more difficult.
	Yet, anytime they have a more difficult vehicle to overcome or body to overcome, that is always a plus for them because it requires that much more effort for them to gain control over that vehicle.
	Even in their own eyes, they may think, goodness, I haven't gotten anywhere in getting control of this body or this brain or the influences that would have me misbehave as far as next level standards is concerned.
	Well, I've talked enough.
	I wanted to share this with you.
	I hope you have a chance to see it.
	And I hope, for the sake of the evolutionary level above human, that might be in you that this might mean something to you and help you know a little bit of the truth that we are and that can be your truth if you recognize us and this information.
	Now I'm going to splice this and show you some of this class.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we're rolling tape and the camera is on Jim Odi.
	Jim Odi, would you want to stand up there and so that we can take a look at your uniform?
	Okay.
	And maybe we can back up a little bit and get a little wider picture of the uniform.
	Okay, good.
	Now come back and if you would and sit down and now if you would hold your patch, maybe we can zoom in on the patch that great.
	See, turn it the other way a little bit.
	No, the opposite way a little bit.
	There you go.
	See, it says Heaven's Gate Away Team.
	And that's exactly what that means to us.
	We've been away and now we're going back.
	Okay, go back to Jim Odi, if you would.
	Okay, thanks, Jim Odi.
	Now let's go to Devotee.
	Hi, Devote.
	Look at the camera.
	You look great.
	Okay, now let's go to Alodi.
	There's Alodi, and you might want to Okay, Alodi's done a lot of our super artwork on our website, and the illustrations you'll really enjoy if you tune into Heavensgate website on the internet.
	Okay, let's swing over to Wendoti.
	Great.
	There's that little jerk there, but that wasn't Wendoti.
	That was our cameraman.
	Okay, that looks good.
	Okay, thank you, Wendoti.
	Let's move on over.
	There's Alex Odi.
	Hi, Alex Odi.
	They're all cameras.
	Yeah.
	Okay, come on over to Steeloti.
	There's Steeloti.
	I want to turn that down just a little bit.
	Great.
	Look at the camera, Steeloti.
	Hi, where's your normal?
	There.
	Ah, you're good.
	Okay, let's go to Doroti.
	Okay, there's Doroti.
	And he's even looking at the camera, aren't you, Doroti?
	Stay looking.
	There we got it.
	Okay, thank you.
	And let's move on over to Arisoti.
	Questodi, I'm sorry.
	There's Questoti.
	Hi, Questoti.
	Can you see the camera?
	There you are.
	That looks good.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	And there's Check Odi.
	A lot of you all watching this film know these individuals, I'm sure, and are curious about all the things that have transpired in their lessons since you last saw them.
	Okay, let's go to Stam Odi.
	There's Stam Odi.
	Hi.
	They're going to have a little time on camera, hopefully, where they can talk to you a little bit so that you won't think they're just total mutes.
	You know, they do talk and they can think, think, and, you know, work the vehicle that they're in.
	They can actually manipulate it.
	How about Sunodi?
	Okay, there's Sunodi.
	Go in a little closer.
	That's good.
	Camera's focused now.
	Okay, great.
	Let's see Daimodi over there.
	It's so great to have Daimodi back in the class.
	He was out for a while and we had to rescue him.
	Boy, he really had to track us down to find us again.
	He's certainly been an excellent example for the time that he's been back with us.
	And Daimodi, if you could go a little bit to your right now so we can get a little better shot of Todd Odi behind you.
	Great.
	That's good.
	Todd Odi was out of the class for a while and couldn't find us and we ran into him in Flagstaff, Arizona, in a Burger King or some such place.
	And some of the class was there while they were holding meetings and he couldn't wait to try to make arrangements to see if he could rejoin the class.
	Okay, and let's go to Avon Odi.
	There he is.
	Get him a little centered if you can.
	Okay, great.
	And let's go on over to Anne Lodi.
	Okay, there's Anne Lodi.
	I'm sure that some of you watching this have seen Anne Lodi.
	And she was out of the class for a while.
	It's interesting how many of these had to spend a little time out of the class before they realized that this is the only thing that meant anything to them, that they knew that this was something they couldn't exist without and that this is who they really are.
	Going over to Pressoti.
	Hi, Pressoti.
	That's good.
	That looks good.
	Pressoti has certainly been a faithful servant of our classroom and of the next level, doing everything that she can to be of service in the class.
	Going over to Wakinoti.
	There's Wakanoti.
	Wakenoti brought her vehicle into the class just, what, a year, two years ago?
	What was it, Wakanoti?
	Three years ago?
	Good night, those past like days.
	I can't remember that.
	Seems to have been such a short time.
	And Arasoti next to her.
	There's Arasoti.
	Now, we've got a little shadow on Arasoti.
	There, great.
	That gives us some light.
	Okay, thanks.
	And let's go ahead.
	Arasoti also came in about the time that Wakanoti did.
	And so some of you may, who are watching this who may know a lot of the class, don't know some of these faces.
	Okay, let's go on.
	And there's Narodi and get her centered.
	That's good.
	Okay, that's great.
	And let's go to Thursoti.
	There's Thursoti.
	Thursoti, like a number of students, had to leave the classroom for a while so that they would know that this was all that was anything to them.
	And they suffered and learned a lot for the time that they were out and were very eager to get back in.
	And it's meant a lot to us and to them to be back in.
	Okay, let's go to Milodi.
	There's Milodi.
	Milodi, one of our real workhorses.
	She tries to help us keep track of our funds and helps us with all our computer projects and makes out lengthy reports with the help of her partners and the others that serve on that team.
	And let's go over to Golden Odi.
	Golden Odi is Melodi's partner, and she's one that came in, what, about three years ago, Golden Odi.
	And she has served so well and worked so hard and been such a just tedious student and service ever since she's been in the classroom.
	Okay, let's keep going.
	Okay, there's Destodi, and it's funny that we're talking about space and how we're from space.
	And only tonight when we went out to the movie to see Star Wars, we saw Destodi's vehicle in a book pictured with, guess who?
	Someone from, what's the name of it?
	From Star Trek, the vehicle that Destodi is wearing, his sister was...
	What was her name on the...
	Lieutenant Yohura on Star Trek.
	And this is the brother vehicle there.
	Do you mind me saying that, Desdotee?
	He probably does.
	He can't admit it to me since I'm a teacher.
	He doesn't mind, no.
	He thought it was a lot of fun.
	Okay, great.
	Let's go.
	And there's Leodi.
	Destoti reached over and tickled him because he wanted to be sure that Leodi smile.
	Leode was out of the class for a while.
	And I think we ran into him in what state?
	Salt Lake.
	And it was so good to be able to have him back in the class.
	Okay, and we go over to Ivenoti that came in a little space between where some of these returned.
	Ivanoti, how long have you been in the classroom?
	Five or six years, something like that.
	And she's certainly been a super help to all of us and has really kept control of the demons in an exemplary way.
	I mean, I say that because we all have to deal with demons on a daily basis and try to, you know, it's a popular thing now for humans to say that they are dealing with their demons, but nobody knows what that means like we do when you're trying to overcome the genetic imprint of the body that you're wearing and the discarnates that would influence them.
	Let's go over to Junodi.
	Okay, there's Junote, and she's certainly been a workhorse for us in every area, and we're proud of all of the service that she has rendered to the next level during our classroom stay.
	And there's Glenote next to...
	These that you've just watched, Junodi, Ivanoti, and Glen Odi, like Alodi and some of the others, have been big contributors to our book, Heavensgate, that you can find on internet, as well as the hard copy that's available if you want to find it from Internet.
	And Glen Odi's worked like a Trojan on the book, and it has really come out.
	We think it's come out to be something we're very proud of.
	Let's go over to Star Rodi.
	There's Starotti.
	Go in a little closer if you can.
	Looks great, Star Rodi.
	Okay, Star Rodi is one that really holds the fort down in all the tasks that a lot of people don't like to perform.
	She has worked so hard in the areas of the NutriLab and the Fiber Lab and just has really been a hard worker in areas that seem so mundane in some people's views.
	Okay, let's go back to the back row.
	There's Lugodi, who certainly has made a major Contribution to our classroom in many, many aspects and tries to keep us on the track in human legal matters and all the kind of stuff that we could get in hot water over if we didn't have his help.
	Okay, and then there's Tall Odie next to him.
	We call him Tall Odi because he's a little taller than Lugodi, who happens to be very, very tall.
	And we've had a lot of fun teasing him.
	He was out of the class for a period of time and was miserable until he had a chance to rejoin.
	And he has really worked like a Trojan to control the things that were difficult for him before he left the class for a while.
	Okay, let's go over there.
	It's Jan Odi, who certainly has been a faithful helper of mine and has been an excellent example in the classroom.
	Her partner, Liv Odi, there is next to her, and Liv Odi has served as Jan Odi's partner and has been a helper as well to me directly and has served us in more ways than we can count.
	And we're all appreciative of them.
	Let's swing over to Bran Odi.
	Okay, come in a little closer if you can.
	Bran Odi was out of the classroom for a while and has had a tough time dealing with a vehicle that gave her a lot of trouble as far as problems that humans would call a physical handicap.
	And she has really risen above the things that the vehicle would cause her to have problems with.
	And we're proud of her.
	Let's go over to her partner, Sam Odi.
	There's Sam Odi, who, like Star Rodi, has really filled in the hole on things that of the menial tasks that have to be done in the craft worked in sewing so much and cleaning the craft and in the laundry and all the areas that seem to always need attention.
	And she certainly has never been slow on energy and all that it takes to keep us in good shape.
	Okay, let's go to Song Odi next there.
	There's Song Odi.
	She's also been one of our bookkeepers and pursers and helped keep us with the numbers and the records as her partner Silvodi has.
	And Song Odi has, like many of the class, they've also served in out-of-craft tasks and to help keep us in our financial needs as well as keeping our records and trying to keep us in order so that we try to know what we're doing.
	It's so hard for us to tune into the regimen of the human world and to treat it with the respect that humans would like for us to treat it with, but we do the best that we can while we're here.
	Let's go over to her partner, Silvodi, who has certainly served in similar capacities so well.
	And Silvodi was also out of the classroom for a while, and she, like the others, knew that this was where life was, and she came back to life when she had an opportunity to return to the classroom.
	And we're so glad that she knows who she is and what she's a part of.
	Okay, now I guess at this point, we'll stay on Silvodi for a second while the camera people go so that we can get them in here.
	Okay.
	Hi, Silvodi.
	Okay.
	Now Steel Odi is going to take over on the camera and swing over to Vernodi.
	Okay, there we go.
	There's Vernodi.
	See, we have a new cameraman now.
	That's the reason we jerked a little there, but he's got it in focus.
	Can you reduce the light just a tad?
	Okay.
	That's good.
	And Vernoti has also been in how many years, Vernoti?
	Three years.
	And Vernodi has really been a hard worker and has served a lot in our CompuLab.
	We call it CompuLab.
	It helped so much with not only out-of-craft tasks that we've done with CompuLab, but in trying to get our internet work under control and has been a very good servant, not just in those ways.
	And he's, I think, probably he would tell you that he's had one of his share of the same things that I talked to you about earlier, that we all have those demons to conquer, and yet he knows that this is it for him.
	And we know how much he knows that.
	And well, I better get off that before I embarrass him anymore.
	Let's go on over to Saroti.
	Soroti's the clown of the class, or I shouldn't say that.
	I'm teasing him as I always do.
	And he has also been a very good servant of the class in many, many ways and never shy of energy, never shy of wanting to serve in every capacity.
	We always have to tone him down.
	We keep saying down, Saroti.
	But he's really been a good servant.
	Well, we wanted to have a chance to let you see these close-up, and we're going to try to have a chance to have them take camera back to all of these so that they can talk to you and you can know that they do have a voice and they have some very strong thoughts of the next level that I'm sure that they would enjoy having a chance to briefly share with you.
	Thank you.
	After, Well, this is the next day from the tape that you from the earlier part of this tape.
	This is Thursday, the 20th of March, and I thought of a few things that I wanted to share with you after we panned the classroom and had a chance to glance at the faces of the individuals in the classroom.
	One thought I had is that you might wonder why, in the screen that you see or the picture that you see, why this chair is as prominent as it is in the picture beside me.
	And this chair represents my partner, who I think I mentioned earlier was with me physically, had taken a body with me in the 70s and was with me physically in this task for 10 years.
	And then my partner is an older member, and it was after 10 years, it was time for an older member to return to the level above human and to give me a chance to have more experience, more difficult experience, and to learn a number of things that my older member had experience in, and that I couldn't have had without the responsibility of a new relationship with my older member.
	So this is T's chair, and this is, I hope that T occupies this chair many times, that I might not be, even though I might not be able to see T. But certainly I'm awkward talking about this because there are so many mediums in the world that have a relationship with spirit, and this is not a relationship with spirit.
	This is a mental communication through actual technical means of the evolutionary level above the human kingdom.
	But still, I'm uncomfortable if I am the center of attention without a reminder to me and to my students that my partner is with me, beside me, and I look to my partner in every aspect.
	I hope that I would fail if I did not look to my partner and ask, literally, ask questions of my partner.
	Now, since T is in the next level and no longer occupying a human vehicle, then sometimes when I ask T questions, I may not get an immediate answer, and I might get an answer a little later.
	I may get an answer days later or months later, depending upon the question.
	Sometimes I may not get an answer at all if the answer was inappropriate or tending to the question was inappropriate.
	But I did want you to understand why this chair is so prominent and what this means to me and to our classroom.
	Another thing is that we realize that your screen has kind of an optical time lapse in it.
	And we came by this quite by accident as we were setting up to make the tape.
	And when we saw it happening, realizing that the different images are one frame different in our video, it seemed interesting to us, and we thought we would try to use it.
	We hope it isn't distracting to you.
	I realized when I was talking about the classmates and the camera was on them individually after I spoke to you last evening, that I caught myself a number of times realizing I had spoken of the vehicle that they were wearing as them, and I was very uncomfortable realizing I had done that, because that's something we work hard to try to break the habit of because we know that the body is not us.
	We took the body when the body was even mature, and now we're going to leave the body.
	But I remember when I spoke to you about Tall Odie, and I said, because he's so tall, or I think I might have said that, instead of always remembering to say, because his vehicle is so tall.
	And, you know, he and Lugodi are in the 6'5 plus area of the vehicles that they're wearing.
	And so that's just, I had to bring up that we try always to qualify when we're identifying with each other and we're talking about the vehicle that we're wearing.
	We try to say our vehicle did this, our vehicle is experiencing that, meaning the body that we're wearing.
	And the reason we don't like the term body is because the vibration that humans use when they refer to their body, because it's like a very physical, very human vibration, much more so than vehicle is.
	It's a more objective term.
	Well, I feel the reason I wanted to make a little more tape is to go over a subject I touched on with you last evening that I want to get into again just as a reminder and to maybe try to make it a little clearer.
	The thing that would disturb me is to have you think that we think or that we're proposing such an idea that if you want to move from the human evolutionary level to the kingdom of God or the kingdom of heaven, evolutionary level above human, that all you have to do is get out of your vehicle, get out of your body prior to a natural death or an accidental death, what humans call a natural death or accidental death.
	And that certainly isn't true.
	I mean, someone can leave their body or what a human calls someone can die.
	That term just disturbs me so because if that individual is that individual, then they are something more than the body.
	So I can't imagine thinking when someone dies.
	So even in speaking of humans, we'll speak of What happens when a human leaves their body?
	Well, the term that is so familiar to us and that we're so comfortable with is that when we come into a body, we incarnate in the body, or we incarnate.
	We are in the body, so we have incarnated, we've moved into flesh, so we are incarnate.
	When the individual leaves the flesh or leaves the body, then they are a discarnate, a discarnate.
	So when you're in body, you're incarnate, when you're out of body, it's a discarnate.
	And of course, there are many, many discarnates in the atmosphere all the time.
	They're discarnates, even the mind, the spirit of lower animal forms go into the discarnate.
	And don't forget that the evolutionary level above human, the kingdom of advancement, the one that has the garden here, that owns the garden, that made the garden and made everything.
	I'm not talking an individual, I'm talking about a kingdom level.
	That kingdom level has their own plan as to when a garden is recycled, when how long discarnates might stay in the atmosphere before discarnates are recycled, and whether or not a discarnate is worthy of moving up a level or not, depending upon what they have become by their choices.
	So the important thing is that to try to make it very simple and very brief is to say that the next level, the level above human, every couple of days by their time,
	when they have a garden planted and the plants on the garden, what we would call the humans, have reached a certain development stage of having some self-awareness and having some consciousness, some choice mechanism of growth,
	that then they nurture them a little bit with intelligence and an awareness of their level above them and that they actually made them and that if they please them they can move closer to them.
	And then in a couple of days their time, which is a couple of thousand years, human time, the next level sends a representative of that level to incarnate and be present and say, I'm from the next level, I'm from the kingdom of heaven.
	My older member, my father in heaven, you know, why father in heaven?
	Because that's the only parent that you have when you're in the next level is a father or an older member, someone who serves as a midwife, bringing you from one evolutionary level to another, certainly because there's no mammalian birth.
	So let's go back every couple of days, next level time, every couple of thousand years, if the garden has progressed to a point that they find satisfactory.
	Then a representative goes in and says, okay, if he goes first of all to those that the next level has given an ingredient, it's like they have put in their mind in their spirit an ingredient that gives them the capacity.
	In other words, the next level chooses the ones to put the ingredient, gives them the capacity to recognize the information about the next level and to recognize when a bearer of that information, someone who comes with that information from that level,
	when they recognize that individual as a shepherd, so to speak, someone that can take them out of this level, and then that shepherd or that teacher, that I don't like the term master because what it's become to mean in this civilization,
	that teacher then tells them that information, and just because they have that, have been given that ingredient of recognition of the information and recognition of the teacher doesn't mean that they're going to have the strength or make the right choices to exit one evolutionary level and enter another evolutionary level.
	It's a very tough and difficult task.
	Funny thing is that the mind that creates this new creature is mind information of the next level.
	So that this new creature has to continually be a product that is aborting human mind, replacing it with next level mind until a new creature is born.
	And we discussed yesterday about that mind, that spirit as a new creature is just like a child when it goes into the next level because it's the beginning level of another evolutionary level.
	And an evolutionary level that also has suits of clothes, also has bodies, also has vehicles.
	Much more refined, don't need steak and potatoes, don't need the kind of nutrition that is needed at a planet designed for what we consider human evolutionary level.
	Don't need certainly to behave as mammals.
	They don't need to be great big leaders.
	They don't need to be independent.
	Actually, the opposite occurs.
	They become successful in moving into that level if they know they are totally dependent upon their shepherd, that they are nothing without their shepherd.
	They look to their shepherd, their teacher, for absolutely everything.
	I am a lamb to my older memory.
	My older member is my shepherd.
	My older member gave me birth.
	And Though my older member gave me birth a long time ago and I've spent time in the evolutionary level above human, makes me no less of a lamb in relationship to my shepherd.
	I apologize for the vehicle feeling the strength of that and becoming emotional, but I know of my total dependence upon my relationship with my older member, with my teacher, with my shepherd.
	Without that, I can easily go astray.
	I can even, you could theoretically go into the level above human, become a member there and go astray.
	Stop looking to my teacher, my older member, my shepherd, and become like some that in the legend books or in the Bible or in the various mythology is the serpent or Satan or Lucifer, someone who does not need that teacher shepherd, gets an ego of their own and a design where they don't feel they need to overcome all mammalian behavior.
	This is an interesting time because in this particular civilization that we're visiting now and about to leave, this civilization now is beginning to have an awareness of alien creatures they call space aliens and they call them Pleiadians from different areas of the heavens.
	And the key to who is member of the next level or the evolutionary level above human is very clear.
	Only non-gender, non-mammalian, only individuals that are linked in family groups, like this is a family of not male, not female, and a relationship of child or younger member to older member, younger member to older member.
	And where that younger member, older member chain ends, and you find the older member who's the top older member or the chief of chiefs, like I said last night, is beyond our comprehension, certainly beyond our capacity with human brains to bring that into any clear understanding.
	But the important thing is not to think that we are saying that if someone exits their body before its so-called natural death, that they're going to go into heaven, or they're going to, even though they may think they love God, how do they know if their God is the right God?
	Well, if a member of the next level comes, or if the information that is from the next level, it is very unique because it has a very narrow parameter of information.
	It's trying to help you want nothing of a mammalian world, nothing of addictions, nothing of replicating, nothing of...
	level.
	So I hope you understand that.
	In other words, to get into a discarnate condition doesn't mean I'm going to go anywhere or it doesn't mean that individuals in this human civilization to get in discarnate either at the end of a lifetime or whether it's premature or not doesn't mean they go anywhere.
	They go only according to what they know.
	In other words, if I believe in some city in space that is where I'm going to go and I feel that I have visited that and that is my reality, then that reality will be mine when I am discarnate.
	We become, our information that we have while incarnate is exactly the same information we have when we are discarnate.
	Therefore, when we step out of the vehicle, we've got to know where our tour guide is for what's next.
	We have to know that we have connected with a guide that, I hate that word because of what it's become, with a shepherd, we know we can connect with a shepherd that we trust and that we have decided that this is, if that shepherd will have me, I want to continue to be a sheep as long as that shepherd will have me and I will do everything I can to please that shepherd.
	So back to how can you know if my God is a God of the kingdom of God.
	If my God tries to increase my life in this world or increase the time in this world or increase material things or increase a family or increase humanitarianism or increase anything in this world, then it is not a member of the kingdom of God.
	That's hard to take.
	I know it's hard, particularly when you live in an age where every preacher is saying there's nothing wrong with wanting good things, nice house, nice car, nice.
	Just pray to God and he wants you to have nice things.
	Well, it is true that the evolutionary level, when they send a representative to help you get into one world and out of another, they provide very well for you.
	But that relating to that information has been twisted in religions and has become totally misplaced information.
	It is misinformation.
	The most dangerous thing that we can come across is someone who seems to like to shepherd and seems to be an effective shepherd And knows a little really good information that appears to be very wise information and links that information unknowingly with a lot of misinformation.
	So the difficult task is when you have the capacity to recognize the information and to recognize the shepherd, the difficult task is, can I recognize it?
	How can I recognize it?
	And then am I willing to abort one, let go of one life, and move into the other.
	And the graduation rate from those who have been given the possibility to make that change and those who complete that change, it's a small rate.
	It takes a great deal of effort.
	It's a constant learning of how not to identify with the body you're incarnate in, to not have any desires of the human kingdom of the flesh.
	It doesn't mean that it's okay to enjoy a good meal.
	That's not an addiction.
	I mean, these vehicles, these bodies have to have a certain type of fuel that is appropriate in the human kingdom.
	And you can refine or you can change that.
	Some people would call it refining it to, you know, go to strictly vegetarian, go to fruit area and go to aerial.
	The next thing you know, they have slowly advanced to take nothing but a tiny thing in, but also the energy because of the body that they're in, the energy they have and the perception they have is almost reduced to the same amount of fuel they take in.
	So it doesn't work.
	It really doesn't matter when Jesus said, you know, your maker provides the fuel for the lilies of the field and he provides the fuel for you.
	It doesn't matter what you consume as long as it gives you the energy that you need and does not disturb your consciousness or make the vehicle ill that you are wearing.
	Okay, I've covered a lot more ground that I wanted to.
	And there were two or three things that right before we started rolling this tape that I asked members of the class that are sitting before me that if they thought of that they would like for me to cover for them to raise their hand and I would want to cover.
	Evanodi?
	Could you tell people what the OD on the end of the name?
	Okay, yes.
	When we went around doing the tape last evening and I said this is tall Odi, this is Logody, so forth, what is the Odi?
	Well, it means an awful lot to us and to them.
	Even though it's, in a sense, it's like a child name.
	You call someone whose name is Robert, you call him Bobby, or Jim, and you call him Jimmy.
	And the E on there is like the same way.
	It's a young member of the kingdom of God, Odi, Odi or Adi, but we call it Odi.
	So it's, and like, let's say that Presodi, for example, Presodi, the first part of the name press, is kind of symbolism to Presodi, is that she's pressing forward.
	She's pressing toward the kingdom of God.
	She's pressing to get out of the human kingdom.
	And then we tack on to that.
	And interesting is that for the most part, the first syllable of their name is without vowels for the most part, which was common as the members of the next level related to this civilization in the past, if you know your history books.
	And then we add the second syllable of Odi just as a youngun, a child of the next level.
	So that explains the name.
	Thank you, Evnodi.
	Someone else think of something I was going to add?
	Levodi?
	Oh, yes.
	It's good that we talk about this because I'm sure the news media after we leave is going to have a heyday comparing us to the Davidians and the solar temple group based in Canada and Switzerland.
	I don't want to demean them at all or criticize them because, well, let me start at another place.
	I spoke to you earlier about how a shepherd and a flock, and just because you leave your body doesn't mean that you've got a shepherd or that the shepherd that you are following is going to lead you to the right place.
	That's the difficult task.
	But I must admit that I'm very cautious to judge with any condemnation anyone that would leave their life in this world, no matter how they might have some misinterpretations, if they are leaving their life in this world to go to and to follow what they believe is their connection with the kingdom of God.
	Now, let's say, what if some of those Davidians are the solar temple people, they might have been a little, we feel like we're off in our information significantly, but not significantly enough to be lost.
	For example, I told you about tea.
	I mean, I know who tea is.
	I know so well that I can put my trust in tea.
	I mean, that's my whole stake is in my relationship with my shepherd, and that is more than adequate for me.
	This classroom feels the same way as they relate to me and to tea, that they know that's where their trust is.
	And though we might have a lot of misinformation and clear information of the next level is not, cannot be brought adequately into this environment because of all the interference of this environment.
	It's like all the radio waves that are interfered with, all the communication is interfered with.
	And why would the human kingdom have knowledge Of significant knowledge of the level above it.
	The hope most they can hope for is to know that it exists.
	And then when that kingdom sends a representative, that representative is given just need-to-know information, just enough to help them develop a degree of trust and recognition, because they were even given recognition of that information, that can help them then know that's where they're going.
	Back to Davidians and Solar Temple.
	I feel very, very disturbed when I hear people condemn them or condemn David Koresh or condemn the other group.
	Because no matter how far off they might be, I find it very difficult to believe that they will not have further opportunity to go in the direction of truth if they have sacrificed willfully everything of this world in an attempt to follow a shepherd into the kingdom of God.
	That is a magnificent statement of their focus, of their desire.
	Now, I have difficulty with thinking that an adolescent, a child, a toddler can do that.
	I mean, you're not a responsible soul or mind that has the information.
	In other words, I can't justify in my mind someone very young losing their life in this world when they've just begun it, when they don't really know what it is that they are choosing to give up.
	It's almost like they're getting in on the coattails of their relationship with the students, which would then be the adults that have the accountability, the responsibility for their decisions, where these young people certainly do not.
	Needless to say, there are no children with us.
	Needless to say, from what I've already told you about non-mammalian, that we're all totally celibate and there's no relationship of a nature of male or female in relationship to anyone.
	There's no sexuality, there's no sensuality.
	That is very distasteful to us.
	I mean, many have even taken the steps to see that their vehicles wouldn't even function in that way because they chose to not have to deal with that any longer.
	So that could do a number on your heads right there just to know that.
	But that to us is like if your eye offends you, pluck it out.
	It's the same idea.
	If something is so offensive to you that your control is threatened by it, then why shouldn't you dispose of it if you have that option to do it?
	Not that I have ever talked anyone into taking that action, but I've done the opposite.
	I have hesitated and hesitated and hesitated and required that a student who would take that action prove to me of their seriousness and their desire to do it to the point of repetition, repetition, that that's what they want to do, and then they know that they have made that choice.
	So back to that was just children.
	I don't believe that children of human children have enough responsible mind to make choices of their shepherd and their desire to leave this world and enter that one.
	Was there something else that we were going to cover?
	No, Rudy?
	Relationship to that word in a sense.
	This is how the next level makes babies.
	How often?
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, that's back to, again, this is how next level makes babies.
	By every couple of days, their time, approximately every 2,000 years, civilization time, human civilization time, they send a midwife in.
	In other words, the representative that goes in with the need to know information of how to come out of this world becomes the midwife, becomes the older member that brings in a child.
	First, feeds that child information just like a fetus in a human womb is fed until it becomes mature and is ready to be viable.
	And so the member of the next level comes in and nourishes information, understanding, while that young mind is in a borrowed human body.
	And then with that borrowed human body working against all of its genetic programming and misinformation and working against all the discarnates that would feed that misprogramming, that misinformation, that is how that's the labor pangs of how a child is born into the level above humans.
	So these are like as they enter the next level and as they leave this world, it's like they are coming out of the womb.
	They are being born as children into that.
	There are some in this classroom there are different ages.
	I'm not talking about their bodies, their vehicles.
	I'm talking about their minds.
	Some have advanced significantly more than others, have had more time in relationship to a midwife or a shepherd.
	And some may have to return for a little additional time.
	None of them may have to return.
	It's a very interesting thing that even though they might have dragged their feet in certain areas of their strength and overcoming, that when you get right down to leaving everything of this world, even leaving life in this world as humans would interpret it,
	by leaving your vehicle, your body behind, making that leap of trust and faith in that information, in that level, in that representative, that indicates to the next level a very significant step to be taken.
	I have tried very carefully as a representative of the next level to never talk anyone into next level information.
	I have felt that it was my instruction that if I could talk them out of this many times, I have attempted to talk them out of this transition to know that it was their will to develop this, their will to continue.
	I told you last night as we went around looking at the different individuals that this one had been out of the class for a while and this one had been out of the class and so forth and you saw that a number of times.
	There have been times when because of my encouragement, my questioning whether or not this was the place for them.
	And I never said, you know, you're so horrible, get out of here.
	On the flip side of that, we do not want anyone here who does not desperately want to be here with all of their being.
	That has to be their feeling.
	This has to be their happiness.
	This has to be their joy, even though the growing pains are tough at times.
	And a lot of suffering occurs as they abort humanism.
	But that's the same birth pangs in parallel that you would have, as Narodi said, as a child, as making the comparison of how babies are born from one kingdom level into another one.
	Was there something else that we were going to cover?
	Sambudi?
	What's that?
	I think we've covered that enough that maybe we haven't, but it's obvious that I've made it clear to you that my shepherd, my older member, is the one that I make reference to as T. That is not that individual's name in the evolutionary level above human.
	I don't have the memory of what my older member's name is because I wasn't to bring that memory into the human kingdom.
	It shouldn't be shared.
	If you can call that name, trouble exists because that person, that individual answers to that name.
	You know, Jesus, the individual that was in the body named Jesus, does not have the name Jesus.
	And if he, that would be terrible.
	Look at the masses of people that call his name and say, I love you, Jesus.
	I'm so glad that you died on the cross so that I can, I don't have to do anything.
	It's just because I love you so that I can get into your kingdom.
	You did it all for me.
	You shed your blood.
	And that's a lie of the lower forces against the truth.
	Jesus said, if you follow me, if you do everything that I tell you, if you do all of those, that I can help you become what I am and more if you overcome everything of this world.
	You follow me, you will hate everything of this world.
	Every relationship you'll hate, mother, father, sister, brother, you'll hate everything of this world because you only want to be in my Father's kingdom.
	But that's been turned so that the world over Christians teach a fake Christianity.
	There is no Christianity anymore.
	Christianity is one of Christing or one of ridding yourself dying to the world because you've related to someone.
	When Jesus was here 2,000 years ago, he was a shepherd present who could take some into the keeping of the next level and took some into the keeping of the next level.
	Here comes the promise again.
	We're here again.
	Another opportunity for taking the members into that kingdom.
	It requires everything.
	So don't let Christians tell you what a relationship with that individual is.
	But back to Jesus was not his name.
	That was the name given to the vehicle that he's wearing.
	Thank goodness you can't, that he does not answer to that name because he would have to waste all his time with all those who call it constantly who have desires that have no relationship to the level above human or leaving a human kingdom.
	They call it now primarily because they want more money, better house, more cars, more kids, all the things of this world.
	And now they've been taught that it's the right thing to want them.
	It's like there's no value in poverty.
	Well, there isn't any value to poverty.
	That's been mistreated.
	Poverty got its idea as far as following a member of the next level from the idea of not wanting anything of your own, not having any possessions, leaving all of your possessions behind in order to be a part of the next level.
	We are not in poverty.
	We are very well taken care of by the next level during this transition process.
	But we have all, even in this incarnation, even in this classroom, we had to re-experience poverty.
	There were times when we were all out on the road as individuals with nothing.
	We didn't know where we were going.
	We would dig a hole in the ground and get paid for it, pump a little gas or paint a wall of a house, anything.
	And it meant it was a joyous experience to us.
	It wasn't something that was degrading to us.
	It was just a step we had to remind ourselves of as we overcame this world on our way out of it.
	Okay, anything else that we were going to cover?
	Somebody?
	That's interesting because I guess you've noticed this ring that I have here.
	And humans relate this ring as a marriage to another human, which brings up a thought that you won't like to hear at all.
	But that thought is it just disturbs me so when I hear wedding vows in the name of Christianity where someone is vowing to, till death do us part, to give my life and my attention to that other person.
	That means I'm not going to, in this lifetime, even consider giving my life totally to a representative of the kingdom of God.
	That's what the ring means to many people in this world.
	To many people, it means nothing but, you know, one wife, another wife, another wife, another wife, wear a ring.
	Okay, to us, it means our commital to the next level.
	It's like we are, in a sense, symbolically married to our older member.
	And because we certainly also makes it convenient for those in the class, if they have that ring on, that others then don't start looking at them if they see them out in the world doing tasks thinking, oh, that's somebody I might get interested in, because it helps kind of say, I'm taken.
	I'm not available, so to speak.
	So this is my committal to my older member and to the next level.
	But that's my secret.
	But we shared that secret with you because you'll see it and you'll wonder what it might mean.
	Anything else that we wanted to cover that you're aware of?
	Well, we're so excited, we don't know what to do because we're about to re-enter the level above human.
	And we feel like that my older member and the crew working with my older member has said to us, we can't wait any longer.
	I mean, we've done everything we can and you don't need to stay there any longer.
	It's time for us to get on with the refurbishing of this planet.
	It's time to start the cycle.
	We're right at the point where you can't stay there any longer without being significantly disturbed by what has to happen to this planet.
	So it's okay with us.
	We're very, very glad we hope that we took advantage of the time that we had incarnate in these human vehicles and will be of better service to the next level because of it.
	One other thing that I'll mention before we close this is to tell you that I've asked some students if they want to to take our camera and go around to some other students and see if they have anything they want to say on camera that they might leave behind for you to observe.
	So we'll consider this tape one right prior to our exiting human kingdom and we'll have a second tape that will be if we proceed with this, which we may or may not do, but you might find another tape that would be someone asking questions and giving an opportunity for other classmates to express what they might want to express in their own overcoming or their own knowing who they are and where they're going.
	We hope this might be helpful to you.
	And remember that if you might know who I am, if you might know the truth that my older member gave to me, and that gift of recognition of that information is a part of you, belongs to you.
	You recognize that that is in your head, then I can be your shepherd.
	My older member can be your senior shepherd.
	You can follow us, but you cannot stay here and follow us.
	You would have to follow quickly by also leaving this world before the conclusion of our leaving this atmosphere in preparation for its recycling.
	That would have to happen quickly.
	And don't forget that new civilization planted, next level will come again.
	They'll do planting.
	They'll relate to it.
	They'll have representatives.
	They will offer the same thing, how to get out of whatever that human civilization, that next human civilization, might have become at the time that it's ripe enough for them to go in and begin to share information of the next level with them.

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