So, Anthony Fauci, the hero of the pandemic, is the most important person in the world of gain of function research there is.
Many of us have heard this before.
In April of 2020, it was reported that Anthony Fauci funded dangerous gain of function research at the Wuhan Lab in China, dealing with bat coronavirus.
And in early February of 2020, this was reported by Dr. Francis Boyle, writer of the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act.
But the mainstream media machine never picked up the story other than labeling it a conspiracy theory.
The mainstream media has been loyally protecting Fauci while propping him up as our savior.
This is why Joe Rogan is currently being attacked in the mainstream media for being anti-vaccination.
On the same day Rogan published his Josh Rogan episode, Media Matters published an article about an older episode dealing with vaccinations.
Mainstream media ran with this old hot button topic while ignoring the bombshell news that went out live to Rogan's massive audience.
Josh Rogan is an American journalist who works for the Washington Post and CNN.
He is part of the mainstream media machine, which makes his appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast rather interesting.
Here are the highlights.
Okay, now here's the part where I'm going to get a little controversial.
Are you ready?
Is it okay?
Sure.
Okay, so if I've gotten you that far, again, just to say that I don't blame anyone out there for having this notion that like this lab accident theory is kind of a kooky thing that like was cooked up by Mike Pompeii or something like that.
I get why you think that.
But now Trump's not, he's not here anymore, right?
We don't have to argue about Trump anymore, hopefully, ever, again, right?
And we can just look at the piles of circumstantial evidence.
And there's a plenty of circumstantial evidence that it could have come, there's some circumstantial evidence that it could have come from nature.
I feel that the lab theory has more compelling circumstantial evidence because again, they were doing that kind of research.
They also, there was a huge cover-up and the virus database went mysteriously offline somehow in December 2019.
He's also the evolution of the virus itself, right?
That's what Robert.
So Robert Redfield, who was the CDC director of the time, a trained virologist, he says, I took a look at this virus and I concluded that it is so powerful that it must have been evolved in a lab setting.
And he pointed to the gain of function research and they called him a racist conspiracy theorist and all the rest.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, here's the controversial part.
The godfather of that industry, the head of the pyramid, is a guy you may have heard of called Anthony Fauci.
I've heard of that guy.
Right?
Yeah.
Do you want to hear more?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Anthony Fauci, the hero of the pandemic, is the most important person in the world of gain of function research there is.
In other words, he is, and not just him, there's Francis Collins at the NIH and some other people, but basically, he is the one dispersing all of the grants for this.
He is the one who pushed to turn it back on after Obama turned it back off.
That's a whole nother crazy story.
He turned it back on without really consulting the White House.
That's breaking news.
Never been reported.
Just broke some news on your show right now.
Really?
Yes.
He consulted the Office of Science and Technology Policy, which is like a part of the White House, but he didn't, you know, the White House put a pause on it and then he like undid the pause.
The details are a little sketchy.
I'm not saying that he did anything necessarily wrong or illegal.
I'm just saying that a lot of people that I know inside the Trump administration had no idea this had turned back on.
He found a way to turn it back on in the mess of the Trump administration because the Trump administration was full of a bunch of clowns, right?
So at the end, you could get stuff done if you just knew how to work the system.
Fauci is the head of that system.
Why?
What was his incentive?
That's his whole career.
So, what he would say, and to be fair, again, to be perfectly fair to him, he's trying to predict the next pandemic.
He thinks this is the way that you predict the next pandemic.
By digging up all these viruses, we've got to dig up more and more viruses and play around with them because we're going to find how they evolve.
Then we're going to come up with therapeutics and vaccines and all this stuff.
But there were no therapeutics.
Right, but we did have vaccines quicker than most because the DARPA funded a program to make mRNA vaccines 10 years ago that actually worked.
You know, that was a military-funded program, but we can get to that in a second.
But that's not related to this.
Right.
So, that's a very fair observation.
In other words, the $200 million program to predict and preempt the pandemic failed, to predict and preempt the pandemic.
But it may have also sparked the pandemic.
May have sparked.
But here's my question.
When I read all about the research they were doing, I didn't see what they were doing to prevent it.
I just saw what they were doing was examining these viruses and trying to find out how they work and trying to see what happens when they get more virulent.
But what I didn't see is that the invention of therapeutics.
I hear what you're saying.
I'm willing to give these scientists the benefit of the doubt that their honest goal was to create, do good science to prevent and predict.
Oh, I am too.
That's not what I'm saying.
I don't know if they produce therapeutics.
What I'm saying, but did they have a lack of funding in that department?
Was all the funding allocated towards examining the viruses themselves and not towards developing some sort of a therapeutic?
It's a good question.
I don't know the answer to that question.
But what I do know is that the majority of their time was spent digging up viruses in the wild and bringing them back to these labs.
But Fauci, when he started it back up, did he start it back up with the intent to just uncover more information so we'll be better informed?
His argument was: this is vital research.
The longer we pause it, the more danger that we're in.
I'm trying to save the world, and so we've got to turn this stuff back on because this is how we're going to save the world from the next pandemic, which I'm sure he believed.
I'm sure a lot of these people believed.
But there is another school of thought out there.
And the other school of thought is: hey, instead of taking $200 million to dig up viruses and make them more dangerous, why don't you put that money into monitoring and surveillance in the places where the bats are?
In other words, if you put resources where the outbreaks are likely to occur, then you can squelch them when they pop up because actually viruses change every day.
And trying to predict the pandemic is a fool's errand.
That's another scientific school of thought.
That's not the one that Fauci's in.
But the reason that there's no debate about this is because the NIH and NIAID structure are such that everyone gets funded by them.
They're funding everybody.
So if you are in the field of virology, there's a 99.99% chance that you're getting money from Anthony Fauci in one way or another.
Your grants, your careers, your chairmanships.
So there's no dissent allowed in that community.
I learned a lot about the scientific community and the virologists.
No dissent allowed.
So no debate?
I talked to scientists all the time who say, I think this gain of function research is really dangerous.
I can't say anything.
I'm going to lose my grant.
You're going to lose my career.
This happens to me all the time.
And when Robert Redfield spoke up, because he's a big mocker and he's the head of CDC, he said it's my opinion that it came from the lab because he can't declassify a bunch of classified information on CNN.
But he's talking about what he knows, right?
It's obvious to everyone who's in the know that he's seen the intelligence and he's not just talking out of his ass.
He's not some Joe Schmo virolist.
He was the head of the CDC.
He's seen all of the secret, secret stuff, even the stuff I never got a whiff of.
And he went on TV and said, hey, I think this probably came from the lab.
We should probably look at the lab.
And he was called a racist and a conspiracy theorist.
But by Fauci, but Fauci's disagreed with him publicly.
Right.
So that's the thing.
So if you just think about it, just for once, again, I'm begging people out there, just like, think again, whatever you thought about the lab accident, it doesn't matter whatever you tweeted in 2020, March, it doesn't, nobody cares, right?
And the same thing for the because it's all confirmation bias now.
Like, oh, I tweeted this in March 2020 and I want it to hold up.
Nobody cares what you tweeted in March 2020.
Let's just have a rational conversation about what are the likely ways we got into this horrible crisis that we're in.
And so for people in the know who are listening to Robert Redfield, it's clear that he's calling out Anthony Fauci.
In other words, he's pointing to the gain of function research, which he knows because he's the head of the CDC, reports up to Fauci.
He knows that, right?
But he's not saying that because even that's too hot for him to say.
And the scientists are not going to say that either.
Now, you have a lot of people sort of on the right-wing media and the MAGA media who've been saying that for a long time, but they don't have any credibility with the mainstream media.
And I'm just like in that weird space where like I wrote a book about U.S.-China relationships.
So I had all these good reporting and I'm not MAGA media because I criticize Trump in my columns all the time.
So I am mainstream media, but I'm saying we should look at the lab and it messes with people's minds because they're like, oh, why is he doing this?
Why is Josh pushing the lab?
I'm not pushing the lab accident.
That's the problem today with these rigid ideologies.
Exactly.
Everyone's on teams.
It's all factional.
Yes.
But I don't care.
I don't even care if the lab accident theory is true.
If the natural origin theory is true, then great.
I will lead the ticker tape parade celebrating Peter Dasick and Anthony Fauci down Fifth Avenue.
I'm happy to do that.
All I'm saying is that we have to also look into this lab, these labs rather, and that we can't hire the best friends of the lab to look into the labs because they have a clear conflict of interest and they fucked it up already.
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