Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Bill Clinton shivs Kamala Harris over border
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So everybody forever was like, Kamala Harris is the worst vice president, she's the least popular vice president of all time, and then in a moment...
A moment in time, all of a sudden she's our solution.
She's our hero.
Everybody's with her.
All these social media posts about her.
Try Googling a negative story on her.
You won't find one.
Wow. Perfectly timed for the news coming out of President Trump's mouth and allegedly the Kamala campaign as well.
Welcome, dear friends. I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Kamala is in trouble.
Allegations of plagiarism in her book from 2009.
Also the fact that she is going on Fox.
When does a Democrat presidential candidate go on Fox News if things are going well for her?
Yeah, I don't think so.
And then she, after President Trump said it just two days ago, that he's going on Joe Rogan.
That was Joe Rogan who you heard.
She says she's going on Joe Rogan.
I wonder why.
Well, maybe it has to do with the fact that some people are throwing her under the bus.
People on her own side, allegedly.
Now, look, he's old.
He's doddery.
But he probably knows what he's doing because he's slick willy.
And I think he was meant to be campaigning for her.
But this comment, well, it doesn't exactly reflect very well on the current border czar.
This is Bill Clinton, cut 13.
You had a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you?
They made an ad about a young woman who'd been killed by an immigrant.
Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened.
But if they're all properly vetted, and that doesn't happen, and America is not having enough babies to keep our populations up, so we need immigrants that have been vetted to do work, there wouldn't be a problem.
And he couldn't keep people all torn up and upset.
Wow, Bill Clinton just said that Lakin Riley, a beautiful 22-year-old nursing student, strangled and murdered just outside Atlanta, would be alive today, as would 12-year-old Jocelyn Nunguray and Maryland, mother of five, Rachel Marin.
They'd be alive today if they'd probably vetted the illegals coming into America.
Well, who's been running immigration?
For the last four years.
It's Kamala Harris.
So who are you pointing the finger at, Bill?
Who's not doing the vetting?
And look, I know he called himself a knucklehead, but does Waltz really not realize what he's saying when he says the following?
This is meant to be her running mate.
This is cut 14, and it's a very simple chant from Governor Waltz.
Look, you all know it.
We can't have four more years of this.
We won't have four more years of it.
We won't. We can't have four more years of this.
Eric, help me out here.
Maybe I'll just still...
I had a weird dream. I was on a cruise yesterday with some Green Berets.
So maybe I'm still in the dream.
We can't have four more years of this.
What is the possible this?
Who's in the White House right now, Eric?
That would be the party with the little D after their names.
The D. Is that D for dunce, like Timmy?
Is that like D for dummy?
What's the D stand for?
No, it's not K for knucklehead either.
It stands for Democrat. What does he mean?
Jeff, we can't stand four more years of this.
What does Waltz think he's saying?
It's the same thing like the we're not going back that they say all the time.
The new chapter. We're starting a new chapter.
We're turning a page.
But she's the vice president.
Democrats always pretend they're not in power when they're in power.
They always do that at election time.
All right, I'm going to do something a little bit different here.
Yes, you tune in for political analysis, the very best guest from President Trump on down.
I'm going to do, what have I got left, four minutes and 54 seconds in my opening monologue here.
And I'm going to just divest myself and my analysis of anything political.
No politics for the next 240 seconds.
Did I do that math right? I think I did.
Wow. So what are the choices now and for the next 21 days, because voting has started?
What are your choices?
On one side, you've got a self-made billionaire from New York.
Who loves America and wants to fix it.
I'm not talking about anything political.
Loves America, wants to fix it.
Oh, and who, by the way, took a bullet for America and then went back two weeks ago to the scene of the crime because that's what he's made of.
And his deputy is what?
Is who? His deputy is really the kind of embodiment of the American dream.
Hillbilly family, single mother, drug addict, works his way out of that poverty, becomes a marine, becomes a best-selling author at the age of 32, Yale attorney, venture capitalist, and now vice presidential nominee.
That's J.D. Vance.
So self-made billionaire, loves America, wants to fix it, and the American epitome is his vice presidential running mate.
Okay, no politics.
What's on the other side?
Again, no politics.
A woman who is really a perfect embodiment of the left-wing elite.
She didn't grow up in a working class or middle class family.
Both of her parents were PhD university professors, Stanford and McGill.
Oh, Eric, do you know what country McGill University is in?
I just want to have a little bit of a fact check here.
Country McGill University is...
Is that Jamaica?
No. Try again.
McGill University...
Chris Plant calls it America's hat.
Oh, Canada. Canada!
Well done. Give that man a cigar.
Why does she never talk about the fact she grew up in Canada?
Kamala, Canada. What?
Weird. Oh, American working...
No, you're not American working class or middle class.
You grew up in one of the most exclusive parts of Canada when your mother was a professor at McGill University.
Strange how they leave that out.
And then she becomes what?
A prosecutor in San Francisco.
The Attorney General of California.
And then a Senator.
What's that got to do with the working class, with fighting for the little guy?
She's a member of the elite.
It's not a political statement, it's a factual statement.
And then who's the deputy to this quintessential representative of the liberal elite who grew up in Canada and was the Attorney General of California?
A guy who actually says he's a knucklehead.
Who it's hard to find an issue he hasn't lied about.
The rank at which he separated from the armed forces.
Why he left the armed forces.
Whether he served in combat.
What the abortion laws in the state of which he is the governor actually say.
So you've got this, let's be charitable, a goofball!
He's just a goofball!
So here's your choice, ladies and gentlemen, today and in 21 days.
Guy who loves America, super success story, with a deputy who is an amazing success story, and a member of the liberal elite, And a goofball.
Shouldn't... I mean, really shouldn't be that complicated.
Really shouldn't be that complicated.
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Oh, we did 14.
We did 13.
We did 9. We did 9.
We didn't do 4, right?
No. All right.
I'll do 4 with Mark.
I'll do 2. And hang on.
What do I want to do with Lord Black?
I'll do 2. I'll do 4 with Mark.
You need a good Lord type.
Lordship. Yeah, it's a cool title.
Probably seven with Mark.
Oh, and we'll discuss 12.
12's fun. There's 12's fun.
4 and 12, all right. Yeah, yeah.
4, 7, and 12, probably.
4, 7, 12. In that order, probably?
Probably.
Alright, I just need title for the monologue.
Why is the choice hard?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, good. And the title we have is 2020 Campaign, right?
Yeah. Okay, good.
It is...
Thusly. Okay, good.
Perfect. All right. Want to come in with one of them or you'll team up?
We could do... Hang on.
Who's she interviewing? Is she interviewing her colleague?
That is weird. Okay.
All right. Yeah, what's a short one?
Let's do a short one. Seven is pretty short.
Seven... Is there anything else?
She's hosting a town hall tonight, isn't she?
That's what it says, yeah.
That's what it says.
You did 14 already.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Come in with eight.
Come in with eight and then I'll do PhD.
All right. The
Judiciary Committee is looking for testimony and documents from both Willis and Wade about the ongoing Fulton County election interference case.
A letter shared on X yesterday addressed to House Judiciary Chairman Ohio Representative Jim Jordan.
DA Willis says in part, That's awkward!
The news cycle is so incredibly fast.
Eric, remind me, who is Nathan Wade?
Who is the chap, Nathan Wade?
Ooh, that is the ex-lover of Fulton County District Attorney.
Hang on, hang on. Are you watching the video stream from her bedroom?
Do you know that he is the ex-lover of Fannie Willis?
Do we know this for a fact? I mean, I know the judge said, no more hanky-panky if you want him to work for you, but do we know this for a fact?
I don't know for a fact, but thank you for putting that image in my head.
But yes, of Fulton County DA Fannie Willis.
And he's been subpoenaed by Congress, and he's already saying that his attorneys are saying he won't talk about shenanigans in the last election.
Why would that be, Eric?
Is that because he's a Democrat? Yeah, well, he thinks he'll get away with it because he's a Democrat, but usually when you decide you suddenly don't want to say anything, you want to shut up and vanish, that's maybe because he has something to hide.
Wow, sounds like an insurrectionist to me.
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Welcome back in studio, buddy.
Great to see you, my friend. So I think it's quite funny that you walk in here, we're off mic and we're chatting, and then we look up at the TV screens and we see, oh, President Trump's doing a town hall.
Not even we can keep up with what he's doing.
He had like two rallies yesterday or the day before.
It's like... Eric just told me, he played the clip of Bill Clinton doddering around and being mistaken for Joe Biden.
Bill Clinton is the same age as Donald Trump.
Trump just got off stage in Chicago at the Economic Club.
Right! Today! Like holding court with the managing editor of Bloomberg arguing tariff policy.
And now I'll just jet off on Trump Force One to Georgia and go do a town hall with Harris.
I can't keep up with him.
And Eric, you were watching that Bloomberg thing with Donald Trump.
You said the host was less than unbiased, Eric?
To put it in friendly terms, yeah, he made a clown out of himself with the former president.
He made a clown out of himself, but what did you say about the audience when President Trump hit back?
When he tried to ask about January 6th, he said, oh, it wasn't a peaceful transfer of power.
President Trump said, it was peaceful.
The whole audience applauded and cheered.
Then when that died down, the guy chimed in saying, well, maybe it was peaceful if you've compared to Venezuela.
And the whole crowd started groaning and booing him.
At a Bloomberg event in Chicago.
Fascinating. All right, let's talk about the other side for a second.
You're an expert on what needs to happen in the next 21 days, Mark.
But they're openly talking in ways that are rather interesting.
This is John Heilman on MSNBC saying, yeah, it's time to panic.
That's four. I think there's some PTSD, not just from 2016, but even from 2020, where the polling miss in 2020 was bigger than the polling miss in 2016.
Comprehensively, you know, Joe Biden was supposedly up by these large amounts.
And then we saw basically a four-point polling swing, polling miss across the battleground states.
So there's a lot of PTSD. And I try to, in this piece, try to go through and say, hey, there are some reasons why Democrats, there's a case for panic.
I mean, there's a case, there's data out there that should alarm Democrats.
And you go through and look at some of those things, when you hear people like Alyssa Slotkin in Michigan or Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin privately telling people that the vice president's behind in those states, that's a good reason to worry.
You said something fascinating as you walked in about where the polls are now for President Trump and in comparison to 16 and 20.
Share that with all of our listeners.
Yeah, it's not even close. I mean, he's polling better now than he was in either of those cycles.
I think right now he's doing eight points better than he was in 2020 and 10 to 12 points nationally over where Hillary Clinton was at this point.
And when you go battleground state by battleground state...
All seven of the states, anywhere from two to five to six points, Trump is outperforming where he was in 20, and in many cases also in where he was in 2016.
All right, you're an old hand at this, in the White House, on the campaign, former director of strategic communications for Trump 2020.
Do we trust the polls, Mark?
Well, the good thing is, though, the polls have never been wrong to our negative.
It's always to our benefit.
Trump always... It's always better than they say it is.
Correct. Especially in 16.
Right. So if he's already doing 8, 10, 12 points better than he was, and the polls have always underestimated the support, it's even bigger than what we think.
OK, so here's the real question.
Why? Because I heard this two days ago by, you know, Chris Plant, you're on his show earlier on Newsmax.
He was talking about, I think he was talking, you know, played a cut or something.
People are saying on the left, Joe Biden could have been a better candidate for them than Kamala Harris.
I mean, the sheer irony of this, that she's cratering worse than he was.
Is that possible? It reminds me of 2019 when she came out of the gate and she had that big rally and Trump even commented and kind of praised her and said, wow, that's a really impressive rally, really impressive launch in 2019.
Five, six months later, she's out of the race, doesn't even make it to Iowa because once you got through that fake sugar high, at some point you're going to need some meat and potatoes on your plate and Kamala Harris can't deliver it.
He gets PhD weight loss.
You don't want the sugar high, right?
You want... You want the protein, you want the meat.
So do you give any credence to these ideas that the leading Democrats want her to fail?
Because if you're a Gavin Newsom, if you're somebody who wants to be president, you don't want her to win.
Because she gets eight years potentially.
So is there some kind of schadenfreude or subconscious sabotaging?
We saw Biden say, oh, well, you know, Governor DeSantis takes my calls.
Are the Democrats not really happy about Kamala being the candidate?
Well, I was hearing in some of the green rooms from real Democrats, you know, that are on CNN, MSNBC, because I do all those shows still.
But they were basically saying that they, you know, if she became the nominee, she would flame out, and then they would be done with the entire radical left.
So this is a while ago, they were saying.
This is prior to her getting the nomination.
They were like, if she gets the nomination...
And that's a good thing. They were saying they want the left wing to flame, the left wing to crash.
They'll crash, and then they can try to move the party back to the middle.
Okay, we're going to continue this.
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semasterngawker.substack.com I also saw Bob Casey didn't show up with her today in Pennsylvania Bob Casey? Yeah.
Any excuse made? That he was campaigning somewhere else.
Wow. Literally, you've got a Democrat candidate in a blue-wall state.
The thing I don't get is this, right?
Even if you're not a pollster, you've got to understand that Pennsylvania is the Keystone State.
Mm-hmm. And you throw Josh under the bus.
That's not...
It's malpractice. What? It's malpractice.
Yeah. I mean, seriously. You need Pennsylvania.
There's no pathway. He's popular.
Right. And then you stab him in the back?
Right. No pathway anywhere that she can win without Pennsylvania.
Even if... Are they just like idiots?
Well... Or do they want her to fail?
I think I personally...
Because they've spent a billion dollars already.
Right. I personally think...
That he took himself, he and Roy Cooper, took themselves out of contention.
Really? Because they were like, you know what, this is...
Ain't gonna work. And even if it, you know, the odds are it's not gonna work, and I would rather be...
Because he's young. Because Gavin, while yes, he'll have money, he's got all of the liberal problems in California.
Yes, right. So that's a very difficult...
And if you're gonna try to move the party back to the middle and go back to...
The Clinton governing from the middle.
Then Josh Shapiro, Roy Cooper are the ones you would do it with.
And Gretchen Whitmer the same way.
I don't want to dirty myself up with taking the L. And so she went with somebody who's equally as liberal as she is.
Actually, maybe even more radical than she is.
And they can rid themselves.
And it's also a way to quiet the squad.
We tried it your way.
But I still don't think objectively, and this is if we played out, if she crashes and burns, if the boss is, you know, God willing, re-elected, that doesn't finish the crazies.
The crazies aren't going to disappear from the left.
No, but I think they will...
Their position will be weakened.
Their position will be weakened, and I think you'll see the National Party try to make a concerted move.
But who? I mean, I can't stand it.
The Sherrod Browns of this world are not going to ever run the Democrat Party.
No, he may not even make it.
I don't think he's going to make it either. So who are the quote-unquote...
There's no Bill Clintons.
This is what I've been saying for years. There's no rational Dems left.
Of any weight, right?
Who's going to come in and say, I'll fix the party for you who has a tailwind and isn't a loony?
Well, I don't think they'll jump right out of the gate in the beginning, but I think what you will see is Mark Warner, you'll see maybe a Tim Kaine, you'll see a Fetterman, and you will see some...
They're all so weird. Fetterman's weird.
No, they're weird, but they're definitely more...
Warner's a charismatic black hole.
Well, I don't mean for a national, like, they won't be running the...
Oh, so they'll be trying to reshape?
Right, they will start to guide things to the middle, like, on Capitol Hill from the minority.
Right. And try to be the moderate force.
That's an interesting scenario. And then Roy Cooper, Josh Shapiro, maybe Gretchen Whitmer will...
Whitmer freaks me out.
Like even Tammy Baldwin.
That Whitmer is just like...
Yeah. It's like that crazy ex-girlfriend.
It's like, I don't want anything to do with that.
That video and the fake apology.
Oh my God, eat the Doritos?
I mentioned that on CNN last week when it happened.
That's cringe. No, I'll tee it up.
I'll see you then.
I'll see you then.
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He was the Director of Strategic Communications for Trump 2020.
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Mark... This scenario we're just playing with, that we go back, she flamed out in the primaries to become the Democrat candidate before the first primary actually happened.
Is it possible that they don't want her to win?
If you're Gavin Newsom, if you're Josh Shapiro, this is...
Explain the theory you had about how this is a way to flush the crazies out of the party.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of folks in the middle that used to be in the middle of their party that are now seeing it taken over by the radical left, and because it has been taken over by the radical left.
Well, Kamala, while she is trying to campaign as a moderate, obviously everything she says is, my values haven't changed, and she still believes all the radical stuff.
She chose the most radical governor from Minnesota to be her running mate, as opposed to a moderate, like a Josh Shapiro in a state she has to win, and that's malpractice.
Yes. So I think if she flames out, as the polls and the trends currently indicate, then I think you will see the Josh Shapiro's, maybe a Roy Cooper out of North Carolina or a Gretchen Whitmer out of Michigan, try to come up and reestablish the moderate lane of the Democrat Party.
Is Whitmer a moderate?
She'll try to campaign as a moderate.
She'll have that blue-collar Joe Biden, you know, I'm from an industrial state, that kind of thing.
And she's blasphemously insulting Catholics on Instagram.
Yes. That kind of thing.
Right. But that's where they will try to campaign.
Because, look, this is not sustainable.
When Donald Trump has increased by double digits, black support, Hispanic support, union support, young people support, no Democrat can win with those kinds of numbers going to Republicans, so they've gotta try to find a way to stem the tide or break apart of the Republican coalition and get them to come to their side.
Now, Kamala's not gonna stem the tide with what we've heard in the last 72 hours.
I mean, President Trump has been crushing it on two-hour podcasts, Lex Friedman, Elon Musk, you name it.
He announced he's gonna go on Joe Rogan.
Now, desperately, Kamala Harris is saying, I could do that too.
This is not a woman who performs well in unedited extemporaneous interviews.
I mean, if you had to get out your crystal ball, Mark, if she does more of the off-the-cuff in the next 20 days, it's not going to go well, is it?
No, I think it's a Hail Mary.
And trust me, I mean, I've been on Bret Baier's show.
I know Bret Baier. She's not getting an easy ride.
And it's not because Bret Baier is...
And Bret Baier is live. Live to tape.
It's going to be as live. No edits.
Oh, okay. All right. It's going to be an ABC kind of...
No, no, no. The campaign gave them 5 to 5.30 and he airs at 6.
So they're just going to basically flip the tape and re-air it as if it was live.
But, I mean, Brett's a journalist.
Yes. And I would say a middle-of-the-road journalist.
So you're going to get tough questions from Brett Baer.
And I'm not sure she can handle that.
What is the logic? You are a communications expert.
I mean, yeah, Fox has gone pretty rhino, and of course Newsmax is best along with Salem, but what is the campaign logic?
Of putting Kamala on Fox, Mark.
If they are more moderate than, say, the America First movement, then those are the ones you are most likely to try to pick off.
But I honestly do not think, I mean, this is the problem for Kamala Harris.
If you're not, or if you're undecided, you're undecided.
You know the truth.
You know things were more affordable, the border was secure, the world was safer with Donald Trump.
But you don't like his tweets.
You don't like his tone or what he says.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. You're begging Kamala.
Please give me a reason to vote for you.
And now we're, what, 90 days into it?
And she hasn't been able to do it.
She's not going to be able to do it.
Because she really wants to turn the page.
That she wrote and would not do anything differently than what they did.
So it's a false choice.
People will realize if 3% are still undecided, my guess is two out of three go to Donald Trump.
From your lips to God's ears, Brett Baer.
At least they won't leave 24 minutes of the interview on the cutting room floor and change the transcript, which is what they did for her last interview that wasn't live or even live to tape.
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Liz Cheney contacted controversial January 6 witness on encrypted app behind lawyers back.
John, that's not possible.
This is an esteemed member of Congress, no?
Well, definitely a member of Congress or former member of Congress.
We'll see how history looks at her, whether she turns out to be esteemed or not.
We already know some of the exploits of Liz Cheney, right?
We know that she put Cassidy Hutchinson on the stand to tell the story about what happened in the limousine beast.
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That star witness, right?
That's the star witness, Cassidy Hutchinson.
That's right. Well, before that happened, before that story got voiced on the American people, and before we knew that the Secret Service was going to deny it ever happened, Liz Cheney was having contact with that witness.
That witness's name was Cassidy Hutchinson.
She is a former White House aide to President Trump.
She wrote a book, made a lot of money off of her story.
We now know that story not to be true, but during the period before she gives that sensational claim, Liz Cheney starts talking to her behind her lawyer's back.
We all know what it means to lawyer up.
We know in American society that when you get a lawyer, any official proceedings then have to go through that lawyer unless you authorize otherwise.
That did not happen here.
Liz Cheney went around the lawyer for Cassidy Hutchinson and tried to get her to cooperate around her lawyer and then went further And even got a new set of lawyers for Cassidy Hutchinson that would be more amenable to the Democratic J6 Committee.
Some people see this as improper influence on a witness, particularly Congressman Barry Laudamick, the chairman of the House Administration Oversight Subcommittee, who got these text messages.
And here's the funny story.
Remember what people said?
Be careful when you play with Cassidy Hutchinson.
Well, it turns out she double-crossed Liz Cheney because she kept these encrypted messages.
took pictures of them and gave them to Congress recently showing Liz Cheney's backdoor maneuvers.
And by the way, at one point, Liz Cheney acknowledges in one of the encrypted messages with Alyssa Farah, who was a friend Of both of the women.
She worked in the White House with Cassidy Hutchinson and was befriending Liz Cheney.
Liz Cheney is quoted by Elissa Farah saying she knows that this is going to be an ethical problem if she has contacts with Cassidy Hutchinson.
Cassidy Hutchinson, she proceeds anyways.
Pretty remarkable. Now, there's one other little wrinkle to this.
Liz Cheney isn't just a member of Congress.
She's also a licensed lawyer in Washington, D.C. What does the D.C. bar say?
You must go through a defendant or suspect or witnesses attorney if they have one.
So she may be cross ways with her own DC bar requirements.
So just this little wrinkle here it says that this was some kind of secure messaging app.
Many of those have self deleting.
So after 24 hours or an hour the message deletes but Cassidy Hutchinson took screenshots just in case she had to burden Liz Cheney.
I mean, is there anything more DC than this story, John?
Not at all. I mean, this is classic D.C. And at the end of the day, the ultimate victims of all of this charade that goes on in Washington are the American people who were put through two and three years of fall stories, often carried out by Liz Cheney and Cassidy Hutchinson and others that we had to go sort through when we could be focused on something more important, like the economy or the security or the border.
But we had to fight through all of these mistruths until we found out what really went on.
Liz Cheney is going to go down in history as someone who really pulled a fast one on the American people.
And these text messages are the latest example of that.
She should know better. She did know better.
The text messages indicate she did know better.
Yeah, just despicable.
And the next time I see her, her home is just around the corner from mine.
I might just ask her about...
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Listen, ActBlue or the potential abuse of Democrats using the ActBlue system to cheat in the election is getting better.
It's not clear whether ActBlue is involved or complicit, but it may be happening on their platform today.
A shocker, a Republican consultant, says that he started looking at an old email account he had used for a while.
In fact, he hadn't used it since he worked for Herman Cain's presidential campaign in 2012.
But he discovered something shocking.
He was getting receipts from ActBlue saying he was making donations to lots of Democrats, including 50 times or 30 times the Kamala Harris.
This is amazing. A Republican strategist got notifications that he was making donations to the Democrat funding.
In a dormant email account, right?
Which gives you some sense of what may be going on.
There may be fake donors using dormant accounts to make donations.
Everybody should go check and see if they're listed.
In ActBlue is giving a donation, just in case they're being good.
But he finds these things.
He's saying, I didn't give these donations.
He filed a lawsuit, a racketeering lawsuit, under civil statutes in Wisconsin, in Waukesha County last night.
We broke this story last night.
Why is that important?
Racketeering says that a criminal enterprise is going on when two or three more people are working together as an enterprise to do something inappropriate.
He says his identity was stolen.
The money is being laundered into Democratic campaigns from sources other than where it's really coming from.
He lays out an opportunity for a judge in Wisconsin, by the way, Battleground Wisconsin, to potentially order a temporary injunction barring The continued use of ActBlue, certainly in this gentleman's name, could be bigger if the judge decides to go there.
This is huge. ActBlue is now responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars of donations a year to Democrats.
This is about the third or fourth revelation in two months about suspicious activity on there.
Brian Stile, the Chairman of House Admin, just sent a referral to five attorneys general saying, I found suspicious things in your state.
That investigation in two weeks, Seb, went from five states to 19 states.
19 states now investigating the activity.
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Did Liz Cheney tamper with J6 witnesses?
A lot of...
Can it get worse for Kamala?
Uh huh.
We played cut three, right?
We haven't played that one yet.
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They helped everyone. Well, the fact of the matter is that he left with 10 million people out of work, 9 million jobs closed, and we were in the middle of the global pandemic.
I don't think people want to go back to tens of thousands of Americans dying.
Excuse me? Jeff, did Tim Walsh just say that if we elect President Trump, millions of people are going to die from COVID? Yeah, he's going to bring back COVID. Does he have some connection to Wuhan?
Is that why he lived in China?
He probably knows a lot more about it than we do.
He might. Can you tee up this weird story or this weird cut?
Cut 12 from ABC about the president's rally.
I mean, I told this story about what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania.
We had a medical emergency.
The president stopped. The audience started singing the national anthem organically.
Why is this a story?
What's going on? Morning Joe and the CNN Morning Show were up in arms about this.
They said basically for 39 minutes he just awkwardly stopped.
Nobody had any idea and he just started playing music and dancing.
People were confused.
They didn't know what was going on.
Everybody was leaving. And it's a sign that he has dementia.
Let's listen to this. This is unbelievable.
Cut 12 ABC. But then, 30 minutes in, two attendees suffered medical emergencies.
The incidents shifted the mood, prompting Trump to cut the question short and instead play some of his favorite music.
How about this? We'll play YMCA and it will go home.
Trump kept DJing, and most of his supporters stayed for another 30 minutes of his plays.
Well, in certain quarters of social media, people had a field day with that.
And I guess on the screens, it might have looked quite strange.
Inside that hall, however, people were having a good time.
What can I tell you? It did not seem out of the order.
It seemed almost intimate.
And at the end, Trump did something he very rarely does.
He came down off the stage and mingled with his supporters.
He was signing autographs and shaking hands and the like.
Jeff, is that the problem?
That people had fun at a Trump rally and he shook hands with people?
And that's liberal ABC that's defending it too, by the way, because he was there and he knew it would happen.
I'll tell you what, they did a good job today.
I knew what that happened, what they were saying happened, didn't happen, but I was trying to figure out what was going on.
They did a pretty good job of making it look like something really bad happened.
People had fun at a Trump rally.
At least they don't have to boss people in from Massachusetts like Kamala has to do when she's in another state.
Absolutely embarrassing. How did that happen?
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to speaker we should note that FEMA funds were actually redirected on on Donald Trump's watch to deal with the migrant issue.
Let me ask you, you mentioned the medical records.
No, no, ma'am. No, wait a minute.
No, that's a... Hold on, wait a minute.
Wait, wait. Facts are important.
That is a new... That is a new...
Mr. Speaker, we should note that FEMA funds were actually redirected on Donald Trump's watch to deal with the migrant issue.
Let me ask you, you mentioned the medical records.
No, no, ma'am. No, wait a minute.
No, that's a... Hold on, wait a minute.
Wait, wait. Facts are important.
That is a new program that started in 2020 under Joe Biden.
That funding wasn't necessary under Trump's administration because we secured the border.
We didn't invite illegal aliens and dangerous people into the country.
That's a Biden-Harris policy and everybody knows it.
Mr. Speaker, it did happen under Donald Trump's watch, but let me just ask you about medical records.
Should Donald Trump release all of his medical records?
Should Donald Trump release all of his medical records?
He has. He issued the records of his physicians.
Kamala Harris issued her medical records as diversion because she's desperate because she's sinking in the polls.
Donald Trump's health is on display.
Everyone in America can see it.
The man works non-stop.
Yesterday you said that you endorse Israel proactively defending itself.
you
I mean, the bottom line is this.
At this particular hour, if you believe the polling, Donald Trump's going to put up the best performance with black voters since Richard Nixon back in 1960.
Not 68, since 1960.
That's 64 years ago.
Among Hispanic voters, Donald Trump's going to put up the best performance for Republicans since 2004 and George W. Bush.
That's Harry Enten.
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The perfect person to discuss all this and so much more with his latest article today, Thank you very much,
Sebastian. The white billionaire real estate reality TV mogul from Manhattan would seem an unusual Republican candidate to be winning not only historic levels of support from the black voting community,
but also the majority of Hispanics.
What is happening in presidential politics, Lord Black?
Well, the candidate you described, you described him a bit incompletely, as you well know.
President Trump is a very wealthy man, but he has always had the ability to relate to the working class.
And he has never, contrary to the barrage of defamation that he endured when he first came into politics seriously, he's never had a racist bone in his body.
As a young person, he worked all his holidays for his father in building projects.
He worked with the workers and knew them well and identified with them and knows their language and in general, the working class perspective on things.
And so he's like a highly intelligent, very wealthy Archie Bunker in a way.
And they relate to this, and they see that while he is a very wealthy man, a very accomplished man, I mean, he's a television star as well as a builder of very high quality and innovative buildings, they see him as a sympathetic person, not an elitist, not in any way condescending.
And this is doubly so With those African Americans and Hispanic Americans who are not accustomed to receiving any attention at all from that economic echelon of people other than with a distinct connotation of condescension.
Now, in fairness to the wealthy people of America, I don't think most of them are racially bigoted in the slightest degree.
I mean, maybe a few are, but most of them are not.
But they don't I hate to use this phrase because it's such jargon.
It's not very good English.
But they don't relate to these people in the way that Donald Trump does.
But they aren't politicians, and he is.
Now, we didn't know he was a politician until the last eight years, although he dabbled in it prior to that.
But he is.
And it isn't a pretense, and it isn't a fraud.
He does understand how these people think.
He's had them as employees.
He's lived with them and worked with them.
And he doesn't care what color skin anybody is or what religion they are or anything like that.
He understands the perspective from that socioeconomic position.
And they respond to that, as they should do, because he is making a genuine appeal to them, not an opportunistic one.
Now, it seems as if the campaign truly is, I mean the Kamala campaign, is in panic mode.
We played a clip from a MSNBC analyst saying that it is time to panic.
She has desperately said she's going to do lots of podcasts.
President Trump said two days ago he's going on the biggest podcast on the planet, Joe Rogan.
Yesterday, the Kamala campaign said, oh, we want to talk to Joe Rogan as well.
Now, she went on another podcast...
Well, I hope you haven't heard this before and I'm going to shock you with this.
She's come up with the real reason for why the black community, especially men, are not supporting her campaign.
This is Kamala Kattu.
They've already started with the misinformation and the lies.
We know that there is foreign interference and I have to say to everybody listening to this, Don't let them take your voice.
Because I was part of the Senate Intelligence Committee when we investigated Russia's interference in the 2016 election.
Black folks were targeted with misinformation.
Lord Black, now we know it's the Russians.
It's Russian propaganda targeting black voters.
I think I've heard this before.
Well, I mean, that really is a sign of desperation.
I mean, I thought they were wobbling badly when they sent out Bill Clinton to help them, because, you know, he's not—he's been on the shelf a long time, and he's not— He's not the vital character that he was, and the same could be said of us, I suppose, but he's not the vital character that he was.
He's not spry. He's not spry.
Let's just be polite. He's not very spry.
I don't want to be unkind here, but he's a sort of an antique politically, and he's not going to raise a lot of support for them.
And the remarks he's made, as far as I can see, have not been helpful to this administration at all.
And he was, of course, a much better president than Biden.
And better than Obama, too.
But I see Obama's challenging his fellow African-American men for being, in effect, misogynist because they're not crowding under the Kamala bandwagon.
I mean, they're all quarreling with each other.
I mean, frankly, I think it's hilarious.
And a marvelous and refreshing state of confusion, a babel of nonsense from a party that has been so slick and unscrupulous In its electoralism, to see them bickering with each other like this is really quite entertaining.
But the unfortunate basis of it is that they can put the vice president out in front of the media as much as they want.
She can't handle gopher balls from Oprah Winfrey.
And even when the CBS interview was re-edited Surreptitiously to clean up her word salads, it was still bunk.
And if they think that they're going to retrieve their campaign by putting her out into the media more where she actually is expected to answer questions, even friendly questions, then unless she has the greatest self-improvement program and the fastest since the comeback of Lazarus, It's just going to sink her campaign further.
Let me run a theory past you that some are floating out there.
Your latest piece in the New York Sun is entitled Harris's faltering candidates.
He threatens to bring down the Obama-Biden era.
Does it not make sense if you're a leading Democrat, if you're a Newsom, if you're a Sherrod Brown of the world, if you're Josh Shapiro, you don't want this woman to win.
Because she could be there for eight years and then scupper your chances to be the president in four.
Could this collapsing campaign be because of a lack of commitment or interest or even worse from her fellow Democrats, Lord Black?
I understand that those men that you mentioned, I don't know them personally, so I can't speak precisely about them.
But Those Democrats who have a legitimate reason to think they might have a shot at the nomination in four years, I think they would likely fear not only that if she actually wins and isn't too bad,
she'd be there for eight years, but if she wins and more likely is a disaster than after Biden and the Further four years of a disaster with her, the Democratic nomination isn't going to be worth much for a while.
I mean, they come back eventually.
Obviously, the parties come back from horrible defeats like the Republicans had in 1964 and the Democrats had in 1972.
But you're right.
I think that would have to factor.
But I think more likely they are afraid, starting to be afraid anyway, that The down-ballot damage that that party seriously, and no doubt with good reason, feared with Joe Biden, is starting to reappear.
According to my reading, you and many of your viewers would know this better than I do, but according to my reading, Pennsylvania Senate race now very close.
Sherrod Brown, he was leading comfortably enough up until the last two days or so.
He may lose. He may lose. Yeah, Michigan is in some doubt.
Wisconsin is in some doubt.
I mean, If all of them went along with Montana and West Virginia, the Republicans have Hold on, hold on.
We will continue.
We're up against the clock that has no mercy.
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This is a moment of silence for the owner who is allegedly a Democrat strategist and this was her on CNN talking about my former boss, Cut7.
Donald Trump ripped babies from the arms of their mothers.
Because of Donald Trump, there is a generation of orphans in this country, and he has said that he would do that again.
I don't know what's worse, if she actually believes it or she's just saying that for political effect.
Well, it's no more fantastic than, you know, Biden's nonsense that the MAGA so-called extremists, you know, this will be the last election.
Did you ever meet Michael Beschloss?
I did. I knew him fairly well at one time, and he was at one time a respectable historian, but he's another person who simply...
A cuckoo bird has flown out of his head and everything he says is nonsense.
I still, you know, I don't know whether I'm just too simple or something, but I cannot credit, I cannot compute when the likes of a Beschloss or an Applebaum, I mean Applebaum's book Gulag is one of the seminal works on the topic, and then within the space of, what, six years, they become utter lunatics.
Yeah. I mean, Beschloss said, if the Republicans win the midterms, our children will be murdered.
On air. No, no, look, Anne Applebaum used to work for me when she was assistant editor of The Spectator in London.
And she was a pleasant, bright, capable young lady.
She met her subsequent foreign minister of Poland.
And she's very solid on Ukraine and anti-communism and so on.
But she is a raving, inexplicable, and not altogether sane Trump-hater.
Yeah. And I had a debate with her before the 2016 election in London, and she was just utter nonsense about how Trump was...
She'd gone crazy way back then?
Oh, yeah. Stark raving mad on that subject.
But still... Capable of writing good things about Belarus or something.
But, you know, it's appalling.
It's dangerous.
Now, you know, I can't help thinking that every day we see what a genius move it was to nominate J.D. Vance, because Trump will be assuming he wins.
He'll be retiring in four years.
He can't run again.
And Vance is Trumpism without Trump, and he's very presentable.
And doesn't drag that big ball and chain around his ankle of people who simply snap and become rabies.
The worst thing they say about him is the cat lady comment.
If that's the worst you've got, then it's hardly ammunition.
Erica, come in with Melania.
Come in with 16. Yeah.
If I have time, I'll use Pierre.
Actually, no. Come in with Johnson, actually.
Yeah. Oh, no.
Let me tee up Johnson.
Let's go. Where there is discord, may we bring harmony.
Where there is error, may we bring truth.
Where there is doubt, may we bring faith.
And where there is despair, may we bring hope.
Wow, thank you, Alex. I wasn't expecting that.
It's always wonderful to hear the former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Wow, that was a wonderful Philip.
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A fresh clip from the Speaker of the House, who, just like JD Vance, is not having it with the mainstream legacy-lying media.
Let's play this for Lord Black.
Here we go. Speaker Johnson.
Mr. Speaker, we should note that FEMA funds were actually redirected on Donald Trump's watch to deal with the migrant issue.
Let me ask you, you mentioned the medical records.
No, no, ma'am. No, wait a minute.
Hold on, wait a minute.
Wait, wait. Facts are important.
That is a new program that started in 2020 under Joe Biden.
That funding wasn't necessary under Trump's administration because we secured the border.
We didn't invite illegal aliens and dangerous people into the country.
That's a Biden-Harris policy and everybody knows it.
Mr. Speaker, it did happen under Donald Trump's watch, but let me just ask you about medical records since you raised them.
Should Donald Trump release all of his medical records?
Should Donald Trump release all of his medical records?
He issued the records of his physicians.
Kamala Harris issued her medical records as diversion because she's desperate because she's sinking in the polls.
Donald Trump's health is on display.
Everyone in America can see it.
The man works nonstop.
So Meet the Press is lying about the actual programs and who put them in place to fund illegals and instead tries to shut down the Speaker of the House and say...
Donald Trump, who's holding multiple rallies in one day.
We need his health records, Lord Black.
It's just fatuous.
Does this woman actually think that the people of America from Bangor to Los Angeles and Juneau, Alaska to Key West, Florida, are calling for Donald's cholesterol count?
Good and bad cholesterol?
I mean, this is nonsense.
As the speaker said, he's been awfully good every time I've seen him on television lately.
Everyone can see that he's a perfectly healthy, well-functioning man.
I agree with him or not, or like his personality, his public personality, or not.
Nothing wrong there.
But the idea that his health, his fitness to hold the office could be an issue is so fatuous, I would have to say that that question could be raised with less curiosity about him than any other person in the world.
He held it for four years with great energy, whether he agreed with him or not, or voted for him or not.
He did. So, you know, that's just...
Foolishness. And again, it's an illustration of how they're scraping the barrel to find some place to register a negative about Trump when they get into that sort of thing.
He made an adequate release of his condition, but any person with an IQ and at least double figures above the age of seven can see by looking at him or listening to him for one minute that he's perfectly physically and mentally competent to be president.
The latest piece is in the New York Sun from Lord Conrad Black.
It's about the collapsing Kamala campaign.
Let's talk about events north of the border.
Let's talk about geopolitics.
You have a very impressive leader of the opposition who was challenged about Canadian support for Israel, and his response was rather impressive.
Play cut. Yesterday you said that you endorse Israel proactively defending itself by hitting Iran's nuclear sites, which is something that President Joe Biden does not endorse.
Do you not feel like this could lead to a likelihood of an all-out conventional war between Iran and Israel?
And do you not agree with Joe Biden in his assessment?
I think the idea of allowing a genocidal, theocratic, Unstable dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow.
And if Israel were to stop that genocidal, theocratic, unstable government from acquiring nuclear weapons, it would be a gift by the Jewish state to humanity.
Hard to disagree with that.
Is there hope for Canada? And how soon could we see that man replace Prime Minister Trudeau, Lord Black?
As it happens, I was talking to him on the telephone just a few minutes before this program started, or before I came on it.
Yes, there's great hope.
Unfortunately, we don't have another election for almost a year, but he's leading by 20 points in the polls, and he's a very, very capable candidate.
And very sound person who would sharply change the policy course of the government of Canada in almost every respect for the better.
And so there's room for great hope here.
And if Donald were back in, if President Trump were in the White House and Pierre was the prime minister, relations would be rather cordial and warm between our two nations, would they not?
They'd get on like smoke.
No problem at all.
20-point lead?
Is that a reliable figure?
That's really impressive. Well, it's certainly reliable right now.
And, you know, it's the same in any democracy.
After a while, unless it's an absolute political genius like Franklin D. Roosevelt, who pretended that he was drafted to a third term, but always, as he said, was a principle, always ran On a new basis each time,
it was to fight the Depression, then sort of reform the system and complete the defeat of the Depression, peace through strength and stay out of war, but all laid short of war to the democracies, then win the war.
He had a different argument each time.
And he was, of course, a remarkably talented politician.
But short of that, The argument it's time for a change becomes almost inevitable, even if it's a pretty good government.
And this hasn't been a good government, and the present prime minister is a very nice man, personally.
I've known him almost all his life.
I know his father quite well, but he's not a good leader, and he's seeking a fourth consecutive term.
No one has done that successfully in this country for over a century.
And the person who did it, Wilfrid Laurier, is on our $5 bill.
He's one of the great statesmen in Canadian history.
Hopefully Trudeau will never make it on to the Canadian currency.
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It's up to us. Yes, but with a slight wrinkle.
About 15 years ago, a law was passed saying that it'll be four years unless there is an emergency when you can extend it, as you can in Britain, or if the government loses a confidence vote in Parliament, then an election will be called.
Now, you know, he's got a minority, but he...
He's made these deals with the third party, so he should be all right.
But there's no doubt his position is...
Justin's position is very tenuous.
I mean, the reports out today are that a large number of his members of parliament have written a letter to him saying he should go.
So he may not stay for a year.
And why is his position tenuous?
Is it the economy, or is it fatigue, or just a combination?
It's aspects of the economy.
People see that more money is leaving Canada than coming into it.
And they've had an immigration policy that, in its principle of bringing in a lot of people, I agree with.
And it's a merit-based system.
And we've got a population now over 40 million.
We've got a population larger than France at the time of Victor Hugo and Renmar.
We just don't have cultural figures as distinguished as that.
They didn't do the necessary to assure housing.
So there's been a terrible pressure on housing, and this has been a great inconvenience to people of modest income.
I mean, citizens have been here.
Same as the UK. Same as the UK. Yeah, exactly.
Now, we do have economic growth here.
We're not in such a desperate state as they are, but it hasn't been good government.
You know, I wouldn't overstate it.
And then people get awfully tired of Justin's nonsense.
He acts like Peter Pan and pretends that the world is full of people who love each other and we're in a post-national world and all this kind of thing.
I mean, you can put up with them.
I mean, I never could, but some sophomores can tolerate it for a while.
You know, knock around a bit.
You get pretty tired of that kind of nonsense.
It does. It gets tiring.
All right. Back to work.
Yep. If you talk to him again, tell him our doors are always open if he wants to come on a national show in the U.S. I will.
I speak to him every week.
I'll let him know that. Thank you.
Thanks, bye-bye All right
You
I think it's because of the momentum that she has.
I think it's because people believe in her, and I think people are showing that by the amount of money that they're willing to give to the campaign.
I think we have the press to blame for a lot of this.
The press? You're part of the establishment press, Sunny Hostin.
If it's so flawless and she's winning so much support, why are the teamsters not behind her?
Why are the firefighters not behind her?
Why are black men saying, uh, thanks, but no thanks?
Why are the majority of households...
What was it, Eric, that statistic on CNN? What was it, the vocational school...
No, the trade union households, right?
She's on track for the worst performance among union households since Clinton 1992.
She leads by just nine points against President Trump.
If that's perfect, Sonny Hostin, we want more of that perfection from your side of the aisle.
The president spoke today in, what was it, Chicago, Eric?
Chicago? The Windy City.
The Windy City. We've got some fresh clips from the president momentarily, but first, Mike Lindell is a conservative, a warrior for the truth, a friend of the president, and that's why the left detests him.
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But for some reason, what was it?
That was how many years ago was January 6th?
They had to bring J6 up.
Here's a listen. Come on, President Trump.
You had a peaceful transfer of power compared with Venezuela, but it was by far the worst transfer of power for a long time.
Thank you. I appreciate that, because this is what they like to do.
This is what they like to do.
The question, President Trump, is would you respect the decision?
When I found out about this interview, I did a little check.
He's a man that has not been a big Trump fan over the years.
So I had a choice.
Do I do this interview or not?
I'm glad I did it. But do I do this interview or do I disappoint a lot of people?
Because I know a lot of people in the audience.
But his view is very different than mine.
Let me just tell you. I'm asking you a question.
We had a term.
Peacefully and patriotically.
These were people...
If you think an election is crooked, and I do, 100%, if you think...
The day it comes when you can't protest, you take a look at the Democrats.
They protested 2016.
They're still protesting it.
Nobody talks about them.
But if we protest, we want to have honest elections.
Jeff, how significant is it that that's Bloomberg, real left-wing anti-Trump rag, and that's in Chicago, and they're cheering for President Trump against the editor-in-chief of Bloomberg?
Isn't that, like, significant?
Yeah, well, Chicago is a maggot country, according to Jussie Smollett, though.
But only at 2 a.m.
outside a subway, right? At minus 30 degrees.
But it's all these things he goes to.
Remember it was the black journalists?
The same thing? They're all laughing at Trump.
No, they cheered there as well?
Yes, exactly. I forgot. I forgot.
All right, play the second cup, please, Eric.
What does the Wall Street Journal know?
I'm meeting with them tomorrow. What does the Wall Street Journal know?
They've been wrong about everything.
So have you, by the way.
You've been wrong about it. You're trying to turn this.
You've been wrong about it. No, you're trying to turn this into debate.
There are business people.
But you're wrong. You've been wrong all your life on this stuff.
Alright, while I'm talking, Alex, our in-house diplomat, do some research for me.
I need that person's name, the editor-in-chief.
I'm not going to go on my phone live when I'm in front of millions of people.
I need to know that name.
Oh, you do? What's his name, Jeff?
John Micklewaite. You're a hack.
You're an embarrassment.
I laugh in your face, John Micklewaite.
I mean, seriously. I've never seen the president.
Eric, have you ever seen the president in any interview fold his arms like that?
He was like, you're a scumbag.
You're not a real journalist.
That was funny, wasn't it? Oh yeah, it was a sign.
Because you're right, we've never seen him do that.
So when I see him do that, that's a sign like, uh-oh, he's about to go all out.
He's holding nothing back anymore.
Never seen that before.
I love it. I just...
I was talking to my wife Katie yesterday.
Man is just unstoppable.
We were just watching something and she just...
And look, she worked for him.
She was a presidential appointee at the Department of Homeland Security.
She was the press secretary for Customs and Border Protection.
And she just said...
Yeah, of course we do.
Why? Because he loves America.
It's that simple.
What do you think Kamala loves?
Power. Just look at the story of her career.
She will do anything for power.
She'll even get in bed with a married man who's 29 years older than she is.
Yeah, Willie Brown.
Look it up. Power.
Power. Power.
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No, I was saving that for maybe E. Oh, okay.
I want to do the transgender thing here.
Probably 17 and 18.
17 and 18 here? Okay.
Coming with 5. 5's good.
Coming with 5. And then 17 and 18.
Okay. Coming with 5, then we'll go to calls.
You can block now. 5 and then calls.
Blocking... Come
in with... Some
left-wing Latinos like NPR's Maria Hinoosa to claim that Hispanics who support Trump want to be, quote, white.
Joe Biden said, if you don't know whether you're for me or you're for Trump, then you ain't black.
What do you think about a Democrat that would rob an American of their heritage simply because that American doesn't want to vote Democrat?
Well, they're probably racist to start off with.
Biden's probably racist, but they're probably racist to start off with.
I heard him when he made that remark a while ago, and it was a stupid remark then.
And actually, it wasn't well received by black people at all.
Oh, it wasn't. No, and that was with Charlemagne the God.
And I do believe, Eric, have you heard this, that Kamala's going to go on Charlemagne the God as well?
That's how desperate she is?
Yeah, because he's not exactly the friendliest.
I mean, he's not friendly to Republicans, but he does not care for Democrats who keep snubbing him.
Jeff, do you think that he's going to ask her about that comment from Biden?
If you ain't voting for me, you ain't black?
No, he'll be nice to her, but she'll still come off bad.
She comes off bad in friendly interviews.
Yeah, she does. She does.
And on top of that, she wants to do things with this country that are just...
Well, they deny this. Let's give you the proof of a couple of things they deny.
They deny that FEMA expended hundreds of millions of dollars on illegals.
We'll show you a video about that.
And then they denied that Kamala had ever said anything about taxpayer-funded surgeries for transgender inmates so that You're in the federal pen and you're a man and you want to be locked up with the women and you pretend that your name is Julie.
No, that's crazy!
No, no, no, no.
Well, except that the internet is forever.
And the Trump campaign found it.
Cut 17. Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
Surgery. For prisoners.
For prisoners. Every transgender.
Inmate in the prison system would have access.
Hell no, I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to that.
Kamala supports transgender sex changes in jail with our money.
Kamala even supports letting biological men compete against our girls in their sports.
Kamala is for they, them.
President Trump is for you.
I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
The better one would have been, she's for they, them, he's for us.
But you get the message.
She said you should pay for transgender surgeries for men in prison who would prefer to be locked up with women.
And then what about this, oh my gosh, FEMA spending on illegals?
No, no, no, no, no, never.
I found this on social media yesterday.
Somebody, there's a voiceover here, like Jeff, he's going on the FEMA website and then they read into what he's pointing out, right?
Yeah. Okay, so this is, for those of you who aren't watching, this is somebody on an iPad pulling up the relevant sections of Joe Biden, Alejandro Mayorkas' DHS FEMA website, where they tell the truth about what your money is being spent on.
Cut. 18.
For fiscal year, FY 2024, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security will provide $640.9 million of available funds to enable non-federal entities to have set allowable costs incurred for services associated with non-citizen migrant arrivals in their communities.
Let's go to Randy in Knoxville waiting very patiently.
Line one. Hey, good afternoon, Dr.
Gorka. Hey. Hey, this old question, I've had people say, I would not allow politics to get in the way of friendships.
And to me, you know, Dr.
Gorka, I don't have liberal friends.
I don't want to hang out and be friends with people that would vote for these maniacs that are trying to destroy our country.
This ain't Harry Truman Democrats from 70 years ago.
It's like, well, Randy, don't you have liberal friends?
I know some liberal people, but I'm not really friendly with them because those aren't my kind of folks.
You know, last week, Dr.
Gorka, I'm a house painter.
I'm painting this lady's house at this $2 million lake house where I do a bunch of work and her fancy French doors.
She's seen down home.
She's from Chattanooga.
And, you know, a nice lady.
And we're chit-chatting and stuff while I'm doing this extensive French door job.
I have three, four coats. She hears me listening to your show on my little radio down low on her front porch.
She comes out and says, who's that?
I said, oh, that's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
He used to work for Trump as a strategist in the White House.
She said, well, you know, Randy, I like you.
You're a nice guy, but I don't want to hear anything about Donald Trump.
Okay, this is fascinating.
So she's paying you to work on her house, and she thinks she can control the radio show you're listening to.
So what happened next, Randy?
Well, I said, oh, hey, you know, I don't want to, it's your house.
And, you know, I had it on low.
It's really on my cell phone.
Normally I'm on earbuds, you know, Bluetooth, but I forgot them at home.
So I just had it low. And she just said, I just can't.
I don't know who that guy is, but he sure likes him.
I said, yeah, he does. It's a really interesting show.
I'm a conservative Republican type of guy, but hey, I don't want to bug you or anything.
My point is she seems so nice and all, and down home, nice lady, $2 million house.
She's got a grown kid living in the basement.
It's one of those things, these, I don't know, limousine liberals, like they used to call them.
But my thing, Dr. Gorka, is it made me start not liking this lady.
You know, I'm just like, wow, for her to be that one.
It's who they are, and they can't be reasoned with.
If you were listening to some lunatic from Radio America or MSNBC, I mean, they can't do talk radio because nobody wants to listen to liberal vituperation for three hours a day.
She'd be fine with that.
But that's the proof of who they are.
Utter, complete intolerance.
I mean... I'm a pretty hardcore conservative.
If somebody was painting my French doors and they were listening to a left-wing podcast, I wouldn't say you can't or I don't want to hear that.
I might use it, Randy, as an opportunity to engage with them.
Oh, and that reminds me, I've got a story from the post office that I haven't shared.
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Sixteen, yep. What's one more?
Oh, 13.
Yeah, let's do 2, 5, 9, 13.
All right, two.
And there you have it.
Kamal is losing because Russians have brainwashed black Americans.
Five.
President Trump tells the truth about bigot Biden.
9.
Hard to disagree with at Joe Rogan on this statement about Kamala.
you And 13.
Can you shorten 13 a little bit?
Yeah. Bill Clinton blames Kamala and Biden for...
Illegals murdering Americans.
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Micklethwaite, the editor of Bloomberg, was horrible when he was at The Economist.
And then in 2019, he ordered the staff at Bloomberg not to investigate any Democrat candidates.
Yeah, that's who the journalists are.
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Silence.
Do we have a real close ally in Prime Minister Netanyahu?
I think, with all due respect, the better question is, do we have an important alliance between the American people and the Israeli people?
And the answer to that question is yes.
I still can't credit it.
I just don't know what to do with that clip.
I mean, there's Legion clips like that of word salads.
But that's not just a word salad.
That's like a nation at war that is one of the closest to us in values.
And the woman who's the current deputy chief executive, who wishes to be the commander-in-chief...
Can't answer the question in the positive that the duly elected prime minister of that nation at war that we deem to be our closest friend in the Middle East is an ally?
Why can't you say that, Kamala?
Is that because of the voters in Michigan?
Let's unpack that and so much more.
We need to get to the bottom of what's happening in the Middle East, and who better than the director of the Middle East Center, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, my dear friend, the author of Ike's Gamble, the one and only doctor, Michael Duran. Michael, wonderful to have you back in studio.
Great to be here. Did you like that introduction?
Oh, I did, yeah. I'm available for bar mitzvahs and conferences if you need me to introduce you.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
I've never had my credentials enunciated.
I'm glad we have a sense of humor because in these dark times we need one.
So we'll talk about what's happened in the last year since the massacre of the innocents on October 7th.
But put into geopolitical context, not the election context, but geopolitical context, What a statement like that means, whether you're saying it, for example, if the UK were at war right now, like the Falklands, let's say it's 1982, and the American president says, Maggie Thatcher, no, she's not an ally.
The people of Britain are allies.
What does that say?
It's a horrendous statement, actually, because it shows the fixation that this administration has on Benjamin Netanyahu.
They hate, the Biden team hates Netanyahu in their gut more than they hate Khamenei, the leader of Iran.
OK, explain that.
They believe that Israel's agenda with regard to Iran, Israel's agenda regionally, is forcing the United States into conflicts that are not in America's interest.
And they believe that the right, especially the Israeli right, is, I wouldn't say the enemy, but it's the adversary of America's interests.
When October 7th happened, their first reaction was, we can't let the Israeli right be a victor of this war.
Their definition of...
I'm sorry, I'm going to interrupt you right here, Mike.
This is perverse.
It is perverse, but it's important to understand how important it is to them to bring down the Israeli right.
Now, is this a function of Is this some kind of perverse permutation or mutation of critical race theory that somehow Jews are white and therefore oppressors and the Gazans and Iran are brown and therefore oppressors?
It is that, but the genesis is deeper.
It goes back from the moment the Zionist movement began.
So a century ago?
Yeah, sure. This is deep in American culture.
In American elite culture.
Why is the creation, because Zionism has become a pejorative, but it means the creation of an Israeli, a state for the Jews.
Why is the idea of a state for Jews anathema to the left?
Because Zionism is on a fault line in American culture.
I think the deepest fault line in our culture, which is between...
It's beyond politics, actually.
Today, it's very political.
It's always very political, but if you go a little bit deeper, it's cultural and religious.
Zionism is on the fault line between Protestant modernism and fundamentalism.
So is it like, oh, you can't have a Jewish state because that's conflation of state and church or state and synagogue?
Is it that theological, Michael?
No, it's theological, ultimately.
I wasn't expecting us to go here at all.
No, but let's do this. No, no, it's theological.
I've had somebody say, let's go uber meta, if you will.
Yeah. Somebody said to me, I think it was our friend Andrew Klavan said that the trouble with the left and the Jews is that postmodern secular leftism just cannot countenance the idea of an objective morality.
And it's Judaism that first gives the world objective morality in the Ten Commandments, upon which the rest of Western civilization is based.
But it's the left secularity that finds the Jewish world system, anathema abovo, in and of itself.
Yeah, the rejection of Israel is a rejection of God.
So you concur with that analysis?
I'm with him in a kind of general way.
I have my own particular take on that.
I don't think that that explains all of it.
There's a specifically American manifestation here.
The Protestant modernism...
It says that it's trying to break down the barriers between all religions.
And also Protestant modernism doesn't believe that there's a fixed human nature.
So it's related. Yes.
But Protestant modernism was opposed to Zionism even before there was really a serious Zionist movement.
So if you believe in the immutable nature of mankind, you're going to be in trouble with these guys?
Of human nature, you're going to be in trouble with them.
It's not by accident that the people who believe that there's no fixed gender Yes.
Are also out there.
The government of Israel.
Yeah, that's not accidental at all in our culture.
That makes a lot of sense. And we're going to have to get a little bit more...
But it's also why it's Fox News versus the universities.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Protestant modernism gave us our high culture.
And today our churches, the churches of Protestant modernism today, Protestant modernism don't go to church anymore.
But that's also why we have on all these churches around D.C., you have all of these transgender banners.
Black Lives Matter, Transgender, and Fauci's God.
And anti-Zionism.
Before we get a little bit more quotidian and talk about the war in the Middle East, Is this conscious?
How many people say quotidian?
It's not a word you hear very often.
Well, I thought you were going to be impressed with abovo.
I was throwing out Latin five minutes ago.
I was impressed with that.
I was also impressed by burnished, actually, as well.
When you're in studio, I try my best.
I get out the thesaurus of my fungal wagon and we get busy.
Before we move on to the mundane or the little bit more prosaic, How much of this is conscious, or is this like in the DNA of them?
It's in the DNA. But let me point out one little interesting factoid.
The United States was a Zionist nation before the Zionist movement existed.
Explain. In 1891, there's a guy named William Blackstone who had written a book called Jesus is Coming, and he wrote a petition to President Harrison, I believe it was, saying that the Ottoman Empire is crumbling, old nations are returning like Greece, The Jews are going to be returned to the Holy Land.
It's the job of the United States to return them.
That's 1891. Herzl didn't write a Jewish state until 1896.
Five years before Herzl.
But who signed the petition?
J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, a large number of governors, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So the American political elite was Zionist in 1891.
But then their children became Protestant modernists, and they rejected it.
That's when the cleavage begins.
The cleavage goes back to the 20s.
So think Scope's monkey trial?
Yes. On that divide was also Zionism.
And it goes all the way back.
There's nothing new here.
I just wanted to talk geopolitics.
We're doing theology, philosophy, going back to my undergrad days.
Why? Because that's how just high class our guest is.
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All right. Mike, I've always been to Israel many times.
I've had lots of offices in my classes when I worked in the Defense Department from the IDF. And I've always said, I don't care who the Prime Minister is.
If push comes to shove, Israel will do what it has to do to protect its people, so never again.
So I trust Jerusalem.
However, can you give us the geopolitical before-and-after snapshot of, let's say, the region six years ago, And the region today, which really does demonstrate why elections matter, correct?
Totally, yeah. So how were things then and how are things now?
The Biden administration has been fueling, I don't think intentionally, I really don't, but they have fueled the expansion of Iranian power around the region.
And no one except Israel had the wherewithal to push back against the Iranians.
And what we've seen in the last year is really phenomenal.
October 7th was tremendously upsetting, but it also was disappointing because I saw Israeli power contracting.
And I didn't really believe...
You mean afterwards? Afterwards, yeah.
I wasn't satisfied with the response.
They got mired in Gaza, and I was, prior to October 7th, I was talking about Israel as a growing regional power, and all of a sudden it contracted.
But then we see suddenly, in the last month or two, there's been an Israeli blitz against Hezbollah, which has been amazing, Seb.
It has really changed. It's like a Blitzkrieg.
It's stunning. It really is stunning.
If the reports are true that that operation through the Budapest Shell Company was six years in coming...
You want to get the Hungarians in there, don't you?
Well, I've got to. But the fact is, that's more Tom Clancy than Tom Clancy.
It is. 3,000 pages.
Things like this don't happen in real life.
This is the stuff of movies.
And then Nasrallah taken out.
It's amazing. It's amazing.
Does this mean Israel has come back?
Yes, absolutely. Israel's winning.
It's winning big. Hezbollah today is like one of those cartoon characters that runs off the cliff and its legs are still going.
Wile E. Coyote. Yeah, Wile E. Coyote.
It's suspended in air and it looks down and it realizes there's no ground, except it can't look down because its head's been cut off.
And I don't even think Tehran understands.
You mean that's Iran today? No, that's Hezbollah.
He's a headless guy.
This was not the conventional wisdom, but the kind of national security nostrum was that Hamas, the proxy of Iran and Gaza, were the cannon fodder, the low-quality guys, and then Hezbollah are the dangerous ones.
That's the A-team. Right, the A-team, the guys who actually trained Hamas, the A-team you keep in reserve.
But basically, operationally, they've been wiped out.
The A-team. Yeah, yeah.
Not exactly wiped out.
They're still there, still can send some rockets.
But in terms of talent at the top.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Been wiped out. Their elite forces are gone.
Their ballistic missiles that we worried so much about are gone, are inoperable.
All of the worst capabilities that we feared from Hezbollah, gone.
Yeah. Which is really remarkable.
I made the mistake myself after seeing how much trouble the Israelis had with the B team, that is Hamas, I thought, well, they really don't have the wherewithal to take on Hezbollah.
But actually, what we find out is they were planning for the war they're fighting right now against Hezbollah.
They weren't planning for Hamas, and that took them by surprise, and they didn't have all that it took to do that.
So they were ready to take on the A team.
They were ready for the A team.
This is what we learned. The A-Team is not just Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Hezbollah is the shield of Iran.
Hezbollah was the shield of Iran's nuclear program.
So by diminishing Hezbollah like they have done, they have left Iran naked now.
But I have to push back on your statement that it wasn't consciously done, that the Biden administration didn't strengthen Iran consciously.
I mean, look, if you release $20 billion of frozen assets to a regime that we in the Trump administration put on its knees economically, of course they're not going to spend all that on baby formula, are they?
Right. No. You have to know that.
Of course you're right in that regard, but they have a...
I'll try to be as fair to them as possible.
I think their ideas are ludicrous.
And dangerous. Dangerous, yeah.
I think they're very dangerous. But they have a case, which they don't like to make it publicly.
Because they know that the country doesn't support them in this.
But they believe that Iran is an appeasable power.
Based on what since 1979?
This is my problem. What is the evidence, whether it's the Beirut bombing, whether it's Big Satan, Little Satan?
There were two events that took place in the last couple of years that convinced them.
This was their thesis when they came in, but then they were sort of proof of concept.
One of them was the truce.
between the Houthis and the Saudis and they were on the way to actually brokering a peace agreement when October 7th happened between the Saudis and the Houthis.
The other one was the maritime border agreement between Hezbollah and Israel.
So in their mindset, the mindset of the Biden administration, they were working with the Iranians to calm down these local conflicts.
So the maritime border arrangement nullifies the Islamofascism of Tehran.
Yes. That's childish. It's utterly childish.
Look, I don't believe it. You don't believe it.
But their argument was...
That Hezbollah is as much or more a Lebanese organization than simply a light...
Okay, we don't agree.
I agree with you.
You and I don't agree with them.
But this is how they see the world.
They truly see the world this way.
It's important to understand they're proud of these ideas.
Yes, I know. They think people like you and me are little boys who like to play war games.
Yeah, like Churchill was in World War II, according to one popular historian.
We'll talk about that as well.
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First, there's one condition.
One condition for anything that could happen and the good things that could happen once this war is over.
And that condition is that Hamas must be destroyed.
Cartago de Lenda Est.
Carthage must be destroyed.
Now it is Hamas and Hezbollah, the Prime Minister of Israel, former counterterrorism commander who lost his brother in a very famous rescue mission that will go down in history.
Let's talk about the state of Iran for a second.
So, number one, this isn't A nation that is a conventional threat, right?
They don't have tanks, divisions that are going to roll across the Sinai Desert, okay?
This is an expert in indirect warfare, proxies, and so forth.
What is the status of the regime today in terms of political fragility?
Because the question I always have is, look, I loved it that when Bibi made his video in English recently, he spoke to the people of Persia.
He didn't use the word Iran.
He used Persia, which is an ancient civilization.
I didn't like that. You didn't like that?
No. Interesting. Okay, tell us why.
Because for me, there has to be a distinction made between the post-79 regime and the country itself.
I know this is what he's trying to do.
So why do you not like it?
Because only about 50% of the people of Iran are Persians.
Good point. Explain who everybody else is.
There are five major minority groups, but the largest are the Azerbaijanis that make up almost a third of the country.
And then he's ignoring them by saying that.
And Azerbaijan is Israel's ally.
Right, right. So, to talk to the Azerbaijanis of Iran...
I'm not saying that those ethnic Azerbaijanis in Iran see themselves as Azerbaijani nationals.
I'm not saying that. But they don't see themselves as Persians.
So you should have said the people of Persia.
The peoples? Oh, that's good.
The peoples of Persia. The peoples of Iran.
The peoples of Iran, or just say...
That's nuanced.
So talk to us about...
I was surprised that he made that mistake.
Given this very heterogeneous makeup, Another one of these words.
I've got to bring my dictionary with you.
Variegated. They just come.
It just flows out of your mouth.
It's amazing. It's on my teleprompter.
Where's my teleprompter? I don't need one.
Given the very varied nature of it ethnically and internally, Because I know we have dissident movements here, many splintered dissident movements.
Are there any dissident movements in Iran that have any potential if the war creates a chaos for the regime?
Is there any chance of some kind of people's revolt?
Not that we know of.
I'm very skeptical of that kind of thinking.
And that's another thing that I thought, as a signal, I don't know why he made that statement.
Was it just a shot across the bow of the Iranians?
They're always talking about destroying Israel.
So he's saying, I'm going to give you back some of your own.
And it was just a signal of seriousness to them that he means to hit them with a big blow.
If that's what it is, just sort of trash talk, that's fine.
You know, diplomatic trash talk.
But if he's really thinking about some kind of grand political scheme, I don't know what it would be.
I would like a greater focus on just the specifics of what Israel needs from Iran and the military goals.
But, I mean, it is not hyperbole or oversimplification to say that peace in the Middle East is not resolved unless, you know, the dictatorial regime of Iran falls, is it?
Totally. Yeah, it's not.
The Middle East is always going to be complex and difficult.
But as long as that regime is there and that regime is feeling stronger and stronger as it has been under the Biden administration, no possibility.
This war, it's very important to say it like this.
This war is Iran's war.
Iran started, Iran escalated, Iran widened the theaters, or broadened the theaters, whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to say.
Because the administration keeps talking about it like it's an Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
That is not what it is. Objectively, that is not what it is.
We're talking to Mike Duran, PhD Director of the Middle East Centre at the Hudson Institute, Hudson.org.
Follow him right now, at Duranamated, D-O-R-A-N-I-M-A-T-E-D. Mike, I'm going to go into a little bit of a different direction now.
Well, we've done theology.
Let's do a little bit of philosophy, a little bit of the ontology of our civilization.
For me, and it has nothing to do with the fact that we helped frame the speech, Steve Bannon and myself, we didn't write it.
Vince and the team wrote it.
But for me, the most important speech President Trump ever gave was the Warsaw speech.
And he asked one very trenchant question near the end, and here's that question.
We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will.
Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means, but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have.
The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.
Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?
Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?
Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?
That's a key question. I forgot how much I enjoyed that speech.
For me, I mean, look, the Riyadh speech before that was one of his most important geopolitically because he had the leaders of 42 Arab and Muslim nations in front of him, and he said, You need to deal with the jihadi threat in your countries first, which Western politicians didn't like to say what was true.
And, you know, you saw the King of Jordan and everyone else say, yeah, we get it.
Thank you for finally saying it.
But that speech, does the West have the wherewithal and the courage to defeat those who wish to destroy our civilization, for me, is the pinnacle question.
Now, what I'd like to ask you, as somebody from the Hudson Institute who's worked in conservative administrations It's one thing if the left hates America, which I think is a fact.
You can't open the border to 20 million illegals if you love America.
You can't do the 1619 Project if you love America.
You can't say America is the problem in the world and everybody else is good, especially if they're brown-skinned or colored or what have you, or people of color.
That's the left's ideology.
It's what Katie, my wife, wrote her book on, Next-Gen Marxism, the new face of Marxism.
My problem is we have voices on the putative conservative side who are falling into the same kind of verbiage that we are the problem.
Most recently, Tucker Carlson, who was a doyen of conservatism before he was removed from Fox, had this Pseudo-historian.
What's his name, Eric?
Daryl Cooper. Daryl Cooper, right.
Daryl Cooper on. For hours, who said Hitler was the victim of World War II, Churchill was a maniac, and then Tucker asks this Jew-hater, clearly, so why did Churchill start the war against Hitler?
And... Cooper says, it was the bankers.
Meaning the Jews, right?
And Tucker just sagely goes, ah yes, the bankers.
Is this a revivified strain of pro-fascist America firstism from the 20s?
Or what is this? Because this has to be excised from the conservative movement.
I totally agree. I was so glad to see that you, a lot of people, a lot of people started doing this thing where they say, you know, we have to ask the questions.
Yeah, right. Freedom of speech.
Yeah, right. This is all part of freedom.
But no, hating Jews is hating Jews.
I'm sorry, right? Yeah, and this is garbage.
So I'm glad to see, I was very glad to see that you came.
Thank you. Thank you.
Where has this come from? What is this?
This is an attempt, so there's many of us, I think I would share some of the sentiment I'm about to describe.
Many people feel that the empire is suppressing the republic, right?
And that there's this...
And that's globalism.
The commitment of our elites to globalism and...
The pan-national Kumbaya America's bad brigade.
Right. Suppressing the original republic.
Right. Absolutely.
Which is agreeable.
And Daryl Cooper...
Is trying to create the history of the process by which the empire squelps the republic.
And he's gone back to World War II. That's when the empire exploded.
And so— And, of course, it was the Jews.
The Jews who were running the empire. The Jews who were running the empire, yeah.
Because the people say, you've got to finally ask these questions.
This is crap. It's total crap.
The criticism of Churchill happened in the 30s, and then the 50s, then the 60s.
This isn't new, brave analysis.
It's hoary old crap. It's digging back and resurrecting crap.
And it's just a function of cynicism with the establishment and now nothing is to be trusted, Mike?
Yes, that's the way it is.
And then they create the history for it.
And the best antidote is what?
Is, I think, just sound thinking and truth.
But are you disappointed that there are so few quote-unquote conservatives who are prepared to call this garbage out?
I am, yeah. You know what?
They're afraid to do it because there's clearly an audience for it out there.
And they don't want to alienate the audience.
So there's a desire to at least play footsie with it so as not to alienate the audience.
That's what's going on. The truth requires courage, my friends.
The truth requires courage.
Dr. Mike Durant, Director of the Middle East Center, Hudson.org.
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One of the reasons that people like Daryl Cooper are anti-Israel is that they sense that the support of the American public for Israel is one of the big sort of push factors that is pushing us to have a globalist worldview.
And I think that they get it totally wrong.
To the extent that this is a rational, and not just simply Jew hatred, but there's a kind of rational foreign policy agenda here.
They get it wrong. They're mixing it in with the pro-Ukraine and everything else.
They can't differentiate it.
Yeah, the thing is that a country like Israel that is willing to fight for itself and that is going to roll back.
Israel is rolling back Iranian power.
Which is good for us. It's good for us.
And they're doing it. So all we have to do is support.
How many American troops are in Lebanon and the Gaza right now fighting for Israel?
Exactly. They'll do it.
They'll do it. And that's what we want.
So the America First movement needs to not be ambivalent about allies that want to fight themselves.
We say all the time, well, there's too much free riderism in our alliance sometimes.
And then we get one that's not a free rider, and we're not happy with that.
What are we happy with then? Israel just wants to defeat its enemies, who happen to be our enemies as well.
All right, last question for you, Mike.
This has flown by as sadly as I thought it would.
For the anniversary of October the 7th, President Trump was seen.
At the graveside of the great Lubavitcher rabbi.
I'd love to know what Tucker Carlson thinks of this with President Trump with his yarmulke on his head.
Strange he hasn't commented on that.
Can you talk for a moment about the significance of this act and put it in the context of your book, Ike's Gamble, The Rebirth of Israel in 1948, and just qualify President Trump's presidency when it comes to the Middle East?
Trump gets in his gut what I was talking about, where the American people are, the connection between the speech in Warsaw and what's happening in Israel today.
Israel is the embodiment of a country that is willing to actually fight for its national survival.
It should be an example to us of how we should all behave.
And he understands that. He gets it in his gut.
What we're seeing there with the Lubavitcher rabbi at his gravesite and everything, I don't think, this isn't a cynical political play by Trump.
His understanding is central to his view of what America is.
I can't undergird it with empirical evidence, but I can tell you as his former strategist in the White House, he wants to know everybody's take.
He will listen to your advice.
And then he makes a decision, which nine out of ten times is preternaturally on the money at an instinctual level.
It is quite unlike anything I've ever seen.
And that's why we need him back.
It's not about posturing.
It's not about pandering.
Ask yourself, how many different accents has President Trump ever used?
I've never seen the Jamaican Trump.
I've never seen the Jamaican or the hood Trump.
It's always Donald John Trump from, not Manhattan, from Queens.
That's who he is. And that's why we need him back, if only for no new wars.
Do you remember what it was like?
Gas was 180, mortgages were $800 on average, and we actually had a border and no new wars.
Let's make sure he's back in the White House.
It's up to us, God willing. Join his team.
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