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Stand up. Let me see you.
Look at that. Are you the man?
I remember, you know, that guy's become famous.
Wow. Are you the guy right behind me?
Right behind me? You're the guy that was looking, you're looking.
You know the guy? I love this guy.
What's your first name?
What's your name? This guy, he became, like, more famous than me because, you know, okay.
Do we have time? Yes.
Yes. To hell with these things.
They're boring. Very boring.
Now, this guy, he was the guy.
No, I looked. I'm looking at him in the audience.
I see him. But when the shots were fired, typically crowd control people, everyone flees.
Now, in all fairness to the people sitting here, we had a tremendous, tremendous crowd that horrible day, actually.
Horrible day. But we had a tremendous crowd.
He was behind me with a group of people like, you know, two, three times the size of this.
It was bleachers.
But 99% of the audience was out there.
But this guy was standing up.
So they say that when a shot is fired in a stadium like a soccer game, everyone, they call them stampede.
They stampede.
They get out. And a lot of people get killed.
They get crushed. They get stepped on.
Nobody left there with the big crowd or there, but him.
I mean, I don't want to say in particular, because nobody left.
Nobody left those stands.
Normally, and there were a lot of shots being fired.
There were eight shots being fired right over me.
I love that moment from the President's rally in Scranton when he saw David, the guy in the boonie hat, who was standing behind him.
And when the shots rang out, he just stayed there.
And then he looked around.
Where's the guy? Where's the assassin?
We've got to deal with this right behind the President's podium.
And it continued recognition from...
Oh, hang on. President Trump's just about to speak.
Where is he now, Eric?
Is he giving another rally?
Where is this? He is in the illegal immigration-plagued city of Aurora, Colorado.
Oh my gosh, what a perfect place to give a rally.
Stephen Miller is about to introduce him right now.
Before we get to the president, live from Aurora, Colorado, let's play the second half of that clip, recognizing the bravery of Booney Hat Dave.
But what happened is we look back, and it's such a famous thing now, and there's one guy that's standing — I didn't know you were going to be — and I didn't know he was going to be here.
They gave you a good seat. They should give you a good seat.
So, so listen to this.
Right?
So, this man, and he's back a few rows, and next to a woman who was very brave, too.
And he's standing. He's not only not leaving.
He's standing up. And he's looking.
He wants to find it. Because he knows.
He saw a lot of blood all of a sudden.
And he knew what happened.
And all he cared about is, I want to get that guy.
But then the sniper, our sniper, took him out.
And, by the way, the local police, too.
They did a good job.
The local police did a good job.
But that guy, I said, there's a guy that, there's a guy, David, I said, there's a guy I want in the foxhole, right?
We want him in the foxhole with me if we ever, if we're ever in a foxhole, because he stood up, he didn't care about the bullets, he was standing, all he wanted to do was find that guy.
He said, there's a guy over there, and yet some other people too.
We appreciate it.
Thank you very much. Great honor.
Thank you. I love people like that.
It's the American way.
That is the way, David, with the boonie hat behind President Trump when he was shot in Butler at another rally in Scranton, and now President Trump is about to take the podium in Aurora, Colorado.
We have to get that, Dave, on our show or on Newsmax.
Oh, have I told you yet?
It's Second Amendment Friday.
It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
The number is 83333 Gorka.
That's 83333346752.
And Rob Schmidt wants a day off.
Yeah. He deserves it. So I will be hosting his show tonight, 7 p.m.
Eastern, across the nation in Newsmax.
We have an incredible show lined up for you for the next three hours here and a fourth hour on Newsmax.
Because, you know, it's Friday.
I'm bored. I might as well do that.
7 p.m. Eastern on Newsmax.
And Newsmax, big news.
This week it launched. It's incredible.
How many rallies has it been this week?
Okay, in the meantime, let's talk about the other side.
Jeff. Obama doesn't like Kamala, right?
Because we have this story that he wanted to have an open primary after they pitched Biden under the bus.
But Biden, to take revenge on Obama, gave all his delegates to Kamala.
So they don't like each other, do they?
Well, after this week, can you imagine why Obama wanted an open primary?
Yeah, but if you're going to ask him to campaign for you, you should probably ask him if he's going to sabotage you on camera, shouldn't you?
Yeah, exactly. Do it behind closed doors.
Because what he just said, hey, Eric, you said Obama on the platform just looked so angry, right?
He really did.
I saw, the first I saw of it was an ex-post of him talking, and the caption said, just watch this video with no volume on.
Right. And he looks angry.
Watch it with no volume.
Supposed to be a booster for Kamala.
And he just looks angry. But then, an absolute utter sabotage.
He's behind the scenes at the event.
And then the kid from Punahou, from this swanky part of Hawaii, goes all what?
Oh, I'm from the south side.
And he says the following.
This is Obama throwing Kamala under the bus.
Cut one. We have not yet seen the same kinds of energy and turnout in all quarters of our neighborhoods and communities as we saw when I was running.
Now, I also want to say that that seems to be more pronounced with the brunt.
Jeff, the brothers?
Well, is that like his white brothers from Punahou or is it from Martha's Vineyard?
Is it his brothers from Calorama in D.C.? Which brothers?
It's something he wants to make news because he knows it's a problem.
And he wants to get out there that she's losing the black vote.
So what's his psychology here?
Let's for a second, let's guess what's going on here.
The Democrats are in big trouble.
Yes. He can't run again.
So what's his play?
Is he just doing this out of spite, saying the brothers don't love you like they love me?
No, he's got a massive ego that he thinks he can come out and if he makes enough news with it, he can turn out the black vote for her.
So he can save her?
Yes, that's what he's hoping.
And does he really think that when he says brothers, that the black guys who don't want to vote for Kamala are going to say, well, if Hussein said brothers, I'll vote for Kamala?
At this point, what else do you do?
Good point. All right, the calls are flooding in.
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But cut it off once, like, towards the end.
What is it? It's the clip that you sent me, the Dropbox.
Oh, oh, cool. Let's have a look.
But when they put the Vindicating Trump thing off, cut it off, because it says coming in theater is a date, but I don't have time to cut that.
Okay. One second.
Those that would vote for this racist landlord.
You got Snoop, 50, Lil Wayne, Nas, Rick Ross, Cameron, Iron Mike Tyson, the champ, Don King, Ray Lewis, Herschel Walker, Dennis Rodman, the worm!
I'm talking about real black people.
You know, our black people.
Yeah. Perfect.
Good. We can't crop that, right?
So it's letterbox?
There's no way to do that like a video on an iPhone, just crop it?
You mean cut off that ending there?
No, crop it so it's longitudinal, so we don't have all that space.
No, I don't know how to do that.
Well, hang on, let me try just removing letterbox, one second.
Like this? Try it again.
Exactly. Those that would vote for this racist landlord?
Yes. Never say you don't know.
Just give it a try. It's the American way.
All right. All right, mic's on.
Just need titles.
Uh, yeah, okay.
Na na na na na na.
Obama thinks he's one of the brothers.
Put brothers in quotes.
Mm-hmm. And Duran.
Democrat, Jew, Haters, and Tucker Carlson.
Thank you.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
Thank you.
Oh, haven't seen her in a while.
Lisa Booth. Do we have the regular promo for the movie?
Like you want to use the trailer?
Yeah, because we got it for two segments, right?
As a clip? Yeah.
If you've got it, show it to me.
It's two minutes long. One second.
Let me find it. Somebody has to help this country, and if they don't, the country and the world are in big trouble.
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
She's a bit worried.
Of the apprentice? All right, that's actually good.
You can come in with that, and we'll put it down 30 seconds in.
Is he connecting? We're working on it.
All right. I'll come in with that for about 20, 30 seconds.
Then I'll do PhD.
Then I'll go to Dinesh. All right.
And what is it? VindicatingTrump.com, right?
Yes. Okay, good.
All right Somebody has to help this country and if they don't the
country and the world are in big trouble Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Power. She's a bit worried.
Of the apprentice? Yes.
You know the feeling of power.
Put your hands on it or would it devour?
Power. They fear that power.
You didn't do an insurrection.
Had you called for one, there would have been one.
Yes, indeed. It is the latest movie from my Salem colleague, my good friend, vindicating Trump.
We'll be discussing it with the one and only Dinesh D'Souza momentarily.
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This time, I'm talking to Dinesh after I've seen the movie and I have to doff my cap.
Dinesh, you've done it again.
Welcome to America First.
Thank you very much, Seb.
It means a lot because I know that you watch these things with very sharp eyes, so if you liked it and you found it to be a powerful film, that means a lot to me.
Well, I did because especially of the fact you gave yourself a big challenge, which is hard to do with my boss because he keeps my former boss.
Did I say my boss? Oops. My former boss, President Trump, that he keeps the...
The personal stuff and the emotional stuff pretty well guarded.
He's not a hard guy, but he keeps that stuff personal.
And I think the timing was what?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You'd put in place the interview for the movie...
Prior to the assassination, I can't believe I'm saying this, the first assassination attempt against President Trump, then he's shot, and you still get to interview him, so you caught him at this historic moment.
Let me ask a little bit behind the curtain.
Were you trepidatious with vindicating Trump to be touching upon that inner emotional aspect right after he was shot in the head, Dinesh?
The whole idea of interviewing Trump is tricky because I've seen a number of interviews where Trump is a little bit of a runaway train and just does a Trumpian schtick, which, of course, you can get out there.
There's no point just replicating that in the film.
I also watched the Dr.
Phil interview where Dr.
Phil was trying to do what you just described, which is to psychologize Trump a little bit.
What were your feelings and so on?
And Trump has a manly aversion to talking about his inner self and he doesn't like to be introspective in that way.
So I thought to myself, what I need to do is to sit very close up with Trump and see if I can kind of control the trajectory of the interview.
He's going to have to let me do that.
And then I'm going to try to ask him questions a little different than he normally gets, because I want people to see the tumblers of his mind working.
I want people to see how he processes information.
And I'm happy to say that he obliged.
He went along.
And as a result, I'm not trying to obviously give you a different Trump.
I'm just trying to round out the picture of Trump.
And what was that like?
How long of a process did it take?
How much was left on the cutting room floor?
Because usually, look, I've interviewed him on this show seven times since I left the administration.
And sometimes, you know, he just wants to answer the questions he wants to answer.
Sometimes he will actually directly address what you're talking to.
But... It's never about emotions.
Did Butler make it a little bit easier or harder for you?
No, I think easier because it introduces that key element in an interview, which is a certain type of emotional grandeur.
And I wanted to bring out this quality of Trumpian bravery.
And so I kind of set the stage for it a little bit because I had remembered that Charlie Rose had interviewed Trump in the 1990s.
When Trump was, you know, he had just come out of an absolute economic doldrum or disaster.
Not only was he bankrupt, he owed $200 million.
And there's a famous scene where he's walking with Marla Maples, and they spot a homeless guy.
And Marla Maples goes, look at that poor guy.
He's dead broke. And Trump goes, dead broke?
He's $200 million richer than I am, because Trump owed that money at the time.
But Charlie Rose asked Trump, he goes, you know, when you were down and out and flat on your back, did you ever think, I may not get up?
And Trump goes, no. And Charlie Rose goes, would never?
I mean, a normal person would at least consider the possibility that they might have sort of finally been done in.
And Trump goes, no.
And Charlie goes, never?
And Trump goes, no.
So this is what this guy is made of.
It's almost like he has a steely ability not to see To kind of place himself on a path and move unwaveringly toward that.
And we've seen this not just with the assassination attempts, but also in the way he's navigated these legal cases.
No, you ask him in the movie, you ask him about, you know, the 700 years he's facing in prison, the numerous indictments, and you ask him how he gets up in the morning and he says, well, I just ignore it and I move forward.
With such lack of hesitation, I found it stunning, Dinesh.
It's stunning. And equally stunning and closely related is, I think, Seb, if you and I were billionaires, we had Mar-a-Lago, we have grandchildren, we have maybe seven or ten years to live, and we have the chance to make all our troubles go away if we simply retreat into that marvelous private world, I mean, who wouldn't take that deal?
So the fact that Trump...
Pushes forward, nevertheless, suggests not only his inner strength, but also suggests that there has to be the motive of doing it for the country, because I can't think of any other motive.
Can you? No, there's one thing that was clear to me the moment I met him in 2015 and ever since then, the only thing that drives this man is love of country, just sheer, sheer patriotism.
You can see all of it and also the insanity of what they are arraying against him in Dinesh's latest movie.
We're going to continue the discussion after the break and then your calls.
It's vindicatingtrump.com to find out where you can see it, vindicatingtrump.com.
I have, and it's absolutely superlative.
It's based on Dinesh's book of the same title, Vindicating Trump.
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It's Friday.
Yeah, you can put the mics on.
With... No, actually...
One of the other Trump cuts, like 11?
Yeah, come in with 11, then I'll do my pillow.
Yep. Um...
And then once I've welcomed back Dinesh, I'll tee up the new clip from the movie.
How long is the new clip?
It is 29 seconds.
Okay, great. Oh, and you know what?
Play it with both of us on the screen so the resolution's better.
Okay. Good.
You got the email for the link, right, Jeff?
To the guest, the 2A guest?
What link? Sorry, his email.
Yeah, I talked to him. You talked to him?
Yeah, I emailed him back and forth.
Great. Okay, cool.
So Doug's moved things around.
Doug Collins is going to be in studio here next Friday.
All right. It's only Friday you're off, right?
Only Friday. I just got to drive to brag.
Got a buddy who's retiring after 33 years.
Two and a half minutes.
Yeah, please. We'll do 1, 4, 9, 10, and 12.
When is John back in the saddle?
It's like a week, at least.
But when did he leave? Technically, his vacation started yesterday.
Oh, wow. Okay. Alright, 1...
Obama thinks she speaks for the brothers, brothers in quotes.
Actually, don't do two, do four.
She's actually proud of her record on the border.
Hashtag delusional.
What did you say about John Bolton?
You said something really good, Jeff, for nine.
What did you say? No one knows about NATO? I forget.
Here or in the meeting? No, here.
So what should we do for John?
He said something to Republicans.
I forgot what I said. What should we say here?
Amazing how this man thinks anyone cares what he says.
Ten. Well, you want to tag him, right?
Is he on Twitter? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Remember he didn't know how to use it?
He started doing hashtag John Bolton in every post.
What? When he first came back, he started doing hashtag John Bolton in every post.
He did? Yes, because he didn't know how to use it.
You remember that? No.
What channel is Maragay?
She's New York Times, but that's on MSNBC. The biggest bigot from the New York Times and then at Mara Gay with her latest pearls of wisdom.
30 seconds. Latest what of wisdom?
Pearl. P-E-A. Pearls.
Pearls. And then we'll do 12 in a second.
Coming in with 11 and then 11.
11, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you for watching.
I don't think anything that we're talking about today is high on her list.
The whole country is going to be like, you want to know the truth?
It'll be like Detroit. Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she's your president.
You're going to have a mess on your hands.
She destroyed San Francisco.
She destroyed, along with Newscom, California.
And we're not going to let her do that to this country.
We're not going to let it happen.
President Trump at the Detroit Economic Club saying, look, it's very simple.
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Secret code G-O-R-K-A. We are back with the author, filmmaker, Patriot par excellence, the man behind Vindicating Trump, the book and the movie, our friend Dinesh D'Souza.
Dinesh, I want to play a clip from Vindicating Trump with our friend Siaka Masakwa, who's like this superb satirist now helping out with the Daily Wire, talking to a woman who wears comfortable shoes with a very masculine haircut and lots of earrings, who's typifying the typical liberal.
Let's play that clip. Those that would vote for this racist landlord?
You got Snoop, 50, Lil Wayne, Nas, Rick Ross, Cameron, Iron Mike Tyson, the champ, Don King, Ray Lewis, Herschel Walker, Dennis Rodman, the worm!
I'm not that! I'm talking about real black people.
Uh-huh. You know, our black people.
Yeah. Send a kidding trial.
First, I have to ask you, I love Siaka.
He was on the show earlier this week.
Where did you find that woman to play the offensive DEI lib?
Is she a conservative with all those earrings and that haircut, or is she just doing a job?
She's a Trumpster.
Wow! This is a great thing.
We have...
We have deep state operatives, we have leftists, and they're all right of center.
And we found them all through an acting community in Dallas.
Of course, they're all suitably made up, but they play the roles to perfection.
That's why I'm very bad classmate, because that means she did her job.
No, I want to meet that woman.
I want to meet her at Mar-a-Lago and shake her hand.
VindicatingTrump.com, VindicatingTrump.com.
You intersplice the interviews with the president, the documentary stuff, with these little vignette of fictional scenes, which are hilarious.
You know what stuns me?
I'm not going to even ask the question I plan to ask.
You play clips.
And I thought they were like AI, but they weren't.
You play clips from the speech the president gave after he came down the escalator eight years ago, or nine years ago.
And the things he said, I'd forgotten the things he said in that speech, Dinesh.
They were so prophetic about what's happening to America, the threat of the deep state, judicial persecution.
I mean, you've gone through this under Obama.
You were targeted by the DOJ. But I have to ask you, didn't you find reliving that speech chilling?
Very chilling. And these things are always fascinating to view in retrospect.
Even when I think about my own case, you know, I was obviously a little naive.
I didn't realize that our politics had become so gangsterized.
But I didn't even see that my case would be a window, a prelude, an opening chapter to far worse things that would then happen subsequently to Carter Page and Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, of course Trump himself.
So all of this is fascinating to view and to sort of recall in retrospect.
I've also been thinking obviously about assassination attempts.
And I think the real difference between the Trump attempts, and let's say JFK or even Reagan, is that nobody was creating a poisonous atmosphere in the early 1960s that said, it's okay to go shoot JFK. Nobody was creating a similar atmosphere that convinced Hinckley or anybody else to put a bullet in Reagan.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We only have literally 30 seconds to go before I have to do my read, but everybody has to go to vindicatingtrump.com.
I'm curious, and we'll get you back for a longer discussion.
Is there any salvation for the other side?
Beyond a 49-state trouncing like Reagan did, these people seem to be truly deranged.
What is their salvation?
Ten seconds, Dinesh?
They need to be roundly beaten at the ballot box and then we need to spend a little bit of time doing to them what they have been doing to us.
This will be a very sobering lesson and they will rediscover the virtues of political neutrality and free speech.
The only difference is we didn't commit any crimes, and they did.
God bless you. Follow Dinesh and listen to his podcast.
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Music Shouldn't we have him on the manhood hour? Get him back on
Monday, Jeff?
We've got someone else this Monday.
Are you booked? Can you come back for like a longer discussion on the movie later next week?
Or the final Monday.
The Monday afterwards would be good.
Yeah, Monday after. That'd be great.
Good. All right. Actually, better for me as well.
Let's do it a week from.
Perfect. All right, so reach out and we'll get it scheduled.
Thanks, guys. Bye-bye.
Thank you. Okay. I believe that will be his second appearance on Manhood Hour.
Yes, it will be. Okay, yeah, yeah.
We've got that Pastor John, I'm in Chuka.
Oh, no way! You know he got...
He got arrested again. Yeah.
Oh, no. And he's got a short little film out, too, so...
That would also be his second appearance on Manhood.
But he was the first three, so I figure it's been long enough.
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Need title for Dinesh.
So last time we talked about the President's courage.
Yeah, I saw it.
Like, what we must do to them or something towards the end.
That's spicy. That'll make Media Matters melt down.
What we need to do to the left.
Spicy! Spicy.
Alright, what should we come in with?
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
Oh, I've got to tee up 12 before we go to calls.
Yeah. And you've got to pot it up.
Oh, you'll tee up 12 for calls.
Okay, and then Alex pot it up. I'll do tee to tee, cut 12, pot it up, and then calls.
Okay. Shad Robishaw has a new book out, so let's get him on.
For what, a couple segments?
Three, actually. Let's get him on for three.
Not a whole hour, but three.
Who do we write to when we're trying to get the president on?
Is it Chamberlain? Sometimes, but...
What's her name?
The one we have to get permission for the videos all the time.
For the videos? She always takes the videos of him that we use.
Oh, Margot. Margot.
Margot. Okay. Will you ask Margot and separately Jason to get the president on next week?
Yeah. Okay. I'll ask him before the election.
Yeah. All right.
Tunnels and then TF12. Oh, hang on.
No, no, no. Come in with the president if he starts talking.
Okay. I think he's probably waiting for the song.
The problem is that song's like three minutes.
All right, the second he starts speaking, I'm going to tee it up wherever we are.
Okay. Okay. You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
Calls next, although President Trump is listening to his song.
He's on the stage in Aurora, Colorado.
Why is that so hard? Aurora, Colorado.
Roll those R's.
So we're going to play some from his opening words.
But we've got an amazing cut from Biden throwing Kamala under the bus and all of your calls.
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All right, Jeff, help me out here.
This is live radio in front of millions of people.
President Trump is standing there.
He did a little bit of a dance.
Do I play the cut?
Do I go to calls?
Or do we catch him at the beginning of his speech?
Or how much longer is he going to stand on the stage dancing to his favorite show?
At least a minute. At least another...
Hang on!
He's moving! Hang on!
Okay, are you ready, John, everybody?
Hit it! And then it freezes.
See? See?
I told you. Live radio.
It's fun. John's going to work furiously.
He is winding up that rubber band.
The steam engine is going full throttle.
We're going to try and get the president's remarks.
Okay, in the meantime, let's...
Oh, what's happening?
I'm watching the screen. It's super exciting.
Do we have just an audio feed, maybe?
Do we have an audio feed?
Alright, I'm going to keep watching the screen.
In the meantime, let's play this cut from the person who's currently in the White House.
Jeff, what is the context?
This is like the Hurricane Cabinet meeting, right?
This is my favorite clip of the week.
Yes, it is. And Joe's going on a little bit too much.
This is Scranton Joe is coming out right now.
And the vice president is somewhere on a video screen and she wants to talk and he ain't having it, right?
Yes, exactly. And then he talks to Granholm, his energy secretary.
Yeah, who tried to stop him too from talking.
And calls her the boss sarcastically.
Let's play this cut. It's too good.
Put it up. Cut 12. Already got it done.
And the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where, well...
I know I'm going to go to the Vice President in a second.
She's my boss. We're going to be going to the Congress.
We're going to need a lot of help.
We're going to need a lot more money. As we identify specifically how much is needed.
So I'm just telling everybody now.
I don't want to hear them. This is going to be the end of it.
So with that, I'll yield to the president.
I mean, the vice president. Thank you, Mr.
President. Ooh, Jeff.
Kamala didn't sound too happy at the end of that, did she?
And that was not a Biden screw up with the president.
That was a mocking her saying, oh, yeah.
I mean, the vice president. Oh, yeah.
And then he'd say, wait a minute.
Wait a minute, woman.
Wait a minute, woman.
This is the third time in a week he sabotaged her.
I like this. Do you think he could get better in the last 24 days?
All he has to do is come out and just say, yes, we stole the 2020 election, but it was Kamala's idea.
I was too old. Oh. Then he would go out.
I mean, he would be prompted up big time.
Oh, could you imagine the book deal?
Could you imagine the book deal?
I would forget about the last three and a half years.
Would you forgive him if he did that?
I would really enjoy it.
I would say that. Joe.
Joe. Just do it.
Let's go to line one. Sandra, New Jersey.
Sebastian Gawker, you are so charismatic already.
I have TrumpForce47.com on my mind, and I will do something next step.
But what I wanted to say to you... No, stop, Sandra.
Just say my last name again.
I love the way you say it. Say my last name again.
Sebastian Gawker.
Gawker. I love that.
I love that. Okay. So what brings you to our show today, my friend?
Well, I wanted to say that, you know, the Democrats are all talk, no action, and we, the conservatives and Donald Trump, most of all, we take action.
So Donald Trump, even though he's not president yet, he already has 275 Florida linemen staying at the Doral Miami Resort for free as long as they need to stay.
Now, he's a man of action.
He's all action.
There are no talk, no action.
It's amazing.
And, you know, they tried to attack him for giving the free accommodation to those hundreds of linemen.
The left tried to attack him, Sandra.
Oh, I can't believe it.
But they'll give the immigrants all the hotel space they need.
157 hotels in New York, Sandra.
All right, Sally Batts wants to say thank you to Sandra from New Jersey.
Stay on the line. Stay on the line, Sandra.
Let's give her one of our Butler t-shirts or Butler mugs.
She gets to choose the iconic image from Butler.
She can get hers for free, but you can get yours at SebGorkaStore.com.
Let's go to Philip, Columbus, Ohio, line two.
Hi, Sebastian Gorga.
It's an honor and privilege to speak to you today.
Thank you, buddy. I was listening to Bruce Hooley, which I know you're coming into town here pretty soon, and he was talking to a poll worker that went for training on October 8th, I think it was, and said that they...
Went through their whole spiel, and when she got done, or they got done, the lady asked whether, you know, the new licenses that they have out, the driver's license, have, you know, non-transferable, and they also say something about not being a citizen, or a United States citizen.
And they said, we're not the ID police here.
We just let everybody go through.
She asked another one, same thing.
And when they said, you're not to do anything with it, You will be removed from the poll and never be a poll worker again.
I was thinking I should be a poll worker, but if that's the kind of stuff you have to go through to get there, I'm afraid I wouldn't fit in very well.
Well, in that case, you have another option, and that's, as Sandra said, Sandra, don't just think about it.
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I'm watching it right now.
For what?
Oh, yeah. Um...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The real Scranton Joe tells Kamala to shut up.
To shut up and wait.
Sound again. Put it up.
Dougie! Dougie!
Can you find the image of me with...
Eric, can you send the image of...
Do you have the image of President Trump holding Katie's book?
Do you have that? You want to come up with the audio?
Yes.
All right.
30 seconds.
All right.
30 seconds.
Yes.
Yes.
Otherwise, you're more than an army of illegal aliens.
So what's the problem?
Do we know what's the problem with the video feed?
you you
Or is your law enforcement and law enforcement all over the world?
They know them all over the world.
They're a savage gang, one of the worst in the world.
And they're getting bigger all the time because of our stupidity.
They're known as TDA. TDA. TDA has killed seven people today, sir.
Last month, six men with armed rifles and many other men standing right outside waiting for them and handguns were caught on camera as they were forced into a situation and they said they were forced.
They weren't forced. President Trump, Aurora, Colorado.
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We'll continue to give you coverage of his rally right now.
But in the meantime, let's go to your calls.
I'll save the monologue in the next hour.
So Wayne and Antoinette, don't go anywhere.
Let's go to Ray Light right now in the long grass somewhere in California.
Dr. Gorka, man. It's always great to hear you and talk to you.
How you doing, buddy? How's your Friday so far?
It's doing great. I'm having a good Friday.
I'm at one of my big accounts. They take care of me, and I'm going to have a three-day weekend, so I'm doing good.
Oh, my gosh. My wife told me it's like a holiday for some people on Monday.
Jeff, are we working? We're working, right?
What's the holiday? What's the holiday?
It is the great...
My holiday is... I'm taking three days.
Eric? It's Columbus Day today.
I know! Eric?
Do we have it off?
No, we do not. Of course not.
But Ray deserves it.
What brings you to our show today, Ray?
You played a clip of Obama calling for the brothers.
The brothers! There's nothing more laughable than a feminized, neutered male calling for other men to call.
He might as well have been wearing a dress.
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
You know, the epitome of the soy boy, Obama, is calling out the brothers.
I didn't even think of that.
How embarrassing. Aren't the real alpha males, the black American alpha males, aren't they just laughing at him, Ray?
Indeed. I grew up in a rough neighborhood.
It was a mixed-race neighborhood, and I had great respect for, as Obama put it, the brothers, because they were menly men.
All of them were. Tough guys in the Army.
All the black guys I met in the Army were all tough, tough guys, and I really liked that about them.
And, you know, Zuckerberg called Trump an American badass, and Musk did also in a sort of way the other day.
He did. Because he emanates it.
He just sweats masculinity, testosterone.
He's a manly man, and men want to line up behind manly men, not a Tim Walsh or a Mr.
Kami Harris or a...
I think we're going to have to play the cut in the next hour, Ray.
You have inspired me when Elon said, I want a president who gets shot and then gets up and shouts, fight, fight, fight.
You're absolutely right. God bless you.
Enjoy your three-day weekend.
How did we get here? It's all in Katie's book, Next Gen Marxism with Mike Gonzalez.
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Wayne Antoinette, don't go anywhere.
This is America First.
I'm not afraid of the dark, I'm afraid of the dark. I'm afraid of talking about you. I'm afraid of talking about
you.
I'm afraid of talking about you.
And we had one president who couldn't climb a flight of stairs, and another who was fist-pumping after getting shot.
Fight, fight, fight!
Blood coming down the face.
America is the home of the brave.
And there's no truer test than courage under fire.
So, who do you want representing America?
Yeah. Absolutely.
Just the way he says, fight, fight, fight!
And that kind of Canadian, South African accent gets me every time.
Elon Musk at Butler!
I was right there. It was so exciting to see him.
Because I knew he was there, because he announced it on Twitter.
He was there in his duckmagger cap.
And then I wasn't sure, is he going to come up on stage?
Whilst we were there in Butler, he tweeted again, I'm going to make some announcement.
I'm going to make some... I'm going to dress the audience.
And he did. And it was superlative.
Alright, so much more to share with you.
It's Friday. It's Second Amendment Friday.
It's making movies great again, Friday!
And to that end, I'm going to take a call or two because...
I'm confused now, is it?
Eric, it's not Thursday, is it?
Today is Friday.
But Antoinette's on the line.
Oh! She wants to talk about movies!
Antoinette, greetings. Hi, Dr.
G. Something fun.
Two calls in one week?
You got past... How did you sneak past Mr.
G? Did you, like, tiptoe past Mr.
G? Don't tell him we did this, okay?
Please, keep it a secret.
I will. Listen, to me, this movie is right up there with Casablanca.
Lost Horizon, 1939.
Oh my gosh! That was one of my dad's favorites.
But for the longest time, they lost a full copy of it.
Is it available now?
We're in a full version with none of the scenes missing?
Dr. G, there's a couple of scenes missing, but a dear, dear friend of mine found it, put it together.
I'll see if he can email it or text it to you to Dr.
G. Don't break any copyright regulations.
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not. I won't.
I won't. This is the story about finding Shangri-La in the Himalayas, correct?
Yes, Dr.
G. It's magnificent.
The power, the determination.
I see that of our President Trump.
And Ray from Livermore is right.
We want alpha men!
We want alpha males.
The more toxic, the better.
Because, in fact, there's no such thing as toxic masculinity.
There's just masculinity.
And the antithesis of the perfect match, which is femininity.
And you are an exemplar of it, my dear.
Keep being a voice for the law, voiceless.
I think we have to put Lost Horizons on it.
In fact, I'm going to write it on there right now.
I'm adding it to our list of movies to review.
Thank you, my dear. Stay safe.
Let's go to Wayne in Houston while I add Lost Horizons to our list.
Go ahead, Wayne. Hey, Dr.
Gorka. How are you doing today?
I'm actually pretty, you know, caffeinated, in a good mood.
It's Friday, so don't spoil it for me, Wayne.
I promise. I promise I will not do that.
Okay. Hey, I'm going to ask a rhetorical question.
You know, these... I don't understand how...
When people speak the truth, it's considered misinformation.
You know, I would take the voice of the people of North Carolina and Georgia and places like that quicker than I would what's being espoused by a line of administration.
You know, I go real quick to the point of FEMA. You know, I wouldn't trust them with anything.
I mean, you hear the people talk about FEMA had money, didn't have money.
They took money from one pot to another.
But what a lot of people, especially low, uneducated, informed sheep, don't realize...
I was in the military, and I worked for NASA for 20 years.
Wow. What did you do in the military?
What was your MOS? I was in the security police field in the Air Force.
Is that what you did for NASA as well?
I worked in the security office, but I did a lot of...
Background investigations, classified work.
God bless. Worked with the astronaut office on all kinds of things.
I wore five different hats.
Did you meet anybody famous?
Did you meet any of our astronauts, Wayne?
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I've worked with a lot of them.
I met Neil Armstrong by just happenstance.
Wow. How cool was that?
Did you wash your hands after that or not?
If you shook his hand, was that a big deal?
Yeah. Well, we were waiting on the crew.
In fact, the crew that had Lisa Nowak on it, the one who drove to Florida to confront her boyfriend's arrival.
So we're waiting on their crew return, and I'm standing there looking out over the flight line, and I see this guy walk in.
I said, damn, that guy looks familiar.
And he does his walk around, and he walks up to me.
He's walking right toward me.
And I'm like, that's Neil Armstrong in my head.
And he reached his hand out.
He shook my hand. He says, how you doing?
How's things going?
And, you know, small talk.
He said, hey, my name's Neil Armstrong.
I said, yes, sir. And, you know, he was one of many astronauts I met.
I met... A lot.
Well, you're a lucky man, and we thank you for your service.
Wayne, do me a favor. Stay on the line.
Let's thank you for your service.
Let's give Wayne one of our butler ball caps with the image of what Elon mentioned.
The fist raised high. Fight, fight, fight.
And you're right, Wayne. I trust the residents of the Carolinas.
I trust the residents.
Who are actually suffering right now a million times more than I trust anybody from the mainstream legacy lying media reporting on what's happening with regards to disaster relief.
Because, yeah, they're Americans and they love America, unlike the establishment and the media prostitutes who work for the establishment.
So stay on the line.
Okay, let's go to the media establishment, as I just said, with a woman who wasn't really blessed with many brain cells, but who thinks you're the stupid one.
President Trump right now is speaking extemporaneously, as he does.
As he said in that cut we played earlier, he said, the stuff with the teleprompters, that's boring.
I'm just going to tell you stories about the real world, and he does.
But... Kamala can't do any of that, but Mika Brzezinski thinks you don't realize cut eight.
There's something wrong with people who can watch that and think the alternative Kamala Harris isn't more articulate, more prepared, more experienced, more able to...
And when I say articulate, that means actually...
Deliver a message to the American people on a certain policy?
You know she can.
If you can't believe it and this is your choice, you're lying to yourself.
And you're going to ruin this country.
It's going to be on you.
Can you go back and just play that as B-roll?
Jeff, what on earth happened to her eyebrows?
It's like Nancy Pelosi's.
They're like slowly moving up her forehead.
What's going on? It's a little bit weird.
It must be the same as Pelosi. Does that sound like a woman whose team's winning, by the way?
Oh. It's very reminiscent of the DeSantis people when they realized it was over.
They couldn't understand what they said.
Everybody else couldn't see what they see.
That's what that is right there.
Well, it's like that.
Who was that in the New Yorker?
Remember those? Oh, remember.
It's a little bit before your time. There was that famous reviewer for New York Magazine or New Yorker who said, how did Nixon win?
None of my friends voted for Nixon.
So go back to our discussion yesterday, Jeff.
We don't want to take anything for granted, but exactly to your point, what Mika just said, you don't do that when you're confident, do you?
Exactly. She's pressing.
How can people not see this?
How can people not realize this?
And when the beta Obama says, the brothers ain't voting for Kamala, you don't do that when everything's hunky-dory, do you?
Exactly. It's all hands on deck.
Throw anything out. See what works.
All right. Let's get Rich Barris back, the pollster we trust.
Let's get him back on the show next week.
He can analyze for us everything he's seeing and whether we actually take it as real or if there's something hidden in the trend lines.
We'll be analyzing all of that and so much more tonight as I guest host for the number one show on Newsmax.
Well, number one daily show because there is a rather good weekly show on Sunday nights.
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Oh, okay, cool.
Let me see.
Okay.
Thank you.
Give me the audio. Fox Audio or Reuters or whatever.
He's got to reroute it. Standby.
You saw the images I sent you, Eric?
What? I don't see any images from you.
Oh, sorry. It's something about Biden and Harris.
They're funneling taxpayer money to cover Medicare Part D so the premiums don't go up.
I've heard other people talk about this, too.
My kids used to work to school.
They were so happy. We were so safe.
But they don't feel safe anymore.
I'm going to use them in this order.
Oh, okay. And then, Jeff, I send you the two YouTubers, right?
I'm working on this now. When I announced my presidency in 2015, you all remember that time, and they said, oh, he's just doing it for fun.
So we're screwed on the video feed, right?
Yeah. Hey, Andy.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, how are you?
Good. Can you close or pull down a shutter a little bit?
You're a bit hot on the right side.
There's a lot of light. Do you want the mics off?
You can leave them on. This side? Yeah, that side.
This side? Other side.
Your right side is a little bright.
Oh, okay. You don't have a blind or anything?
Yeah, but it's not going to do much good.
It might make enough difference.
For these two, you said you want to use the image of the case first.
Oh, that's good. Yeah, the case first.
Scooch a little bit to your right.
Your right. Two inches.
One inch back. Good.
All right. And then what do we have in your chyron?
What do we have in the chyron for Andy?
Senior Vice President, AMAC Action.
Perfect. All right. So you wanted to talk about the Hatch Act and Medicare.
Is that right? Well, the thing is, is the...
The Inflation Reduction Act redesigned the Medicare Part D benefit, and it mandated that the beneficiaries out-of-pocket expenses are capped, which is good.
But it shifted, because of the mandate, it shifted that blame or the risk onto plant sponsors who had to raise premiums to compensate, to offer a competitive product.
The Biden-Harris administration, back in July, They initiated a demo for the Medicare program.
So they're using billions of taxpayer dollars to offset, and they're paying plan sponsors more to offset for their own bad loss results.
How is that legal? Well, that just got the attention to Rand Paul.
Okay, cool. And Rand Paul is saying, wait a minute.
All right, stand by. This is big.
All right, we've got a minute to go.
Were you involved with the boot camp, the recent boot camp?
I was in Alaska training advocates with Leadership Institute, so I missed it.
Oh, wow. Good for you.
Love the Leadership Institute.
All right. Stand by. You'll explain all of this because this is nuts.
I will. I will. Okay.
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So, Medicare. I might be a little bit too young to worry about that, but when it's being screwed up and the screw-up is being covered up with my taxpayer dollars in contravention of, well, every kind of regulation, including the Hatch Act, we need to bang a very loud drum.
And one organization that's fighting corruption wherever it sees it is AMAC Action.
That's the Association for Mature American Citizens Action Organization.
And we're delighted to have Senior Vice President Andy Mangione with us right now.
Happy Friday, Andy. Happy Friday, Dr.
Gorka. So, Andy, Senator Paul has rung the bugle on this one, and it has to do with the – what do we call it properly?
The Inflation Increasing Act that Vice President Kamala Harris was the tie-breaking vote for.
So explain to us, this Byzantine, what that act created and how they're trying to cover it up with our taxpayer dollars, Andy.
That's a good analogy, Dr.
Gorka. The Inflation Reduction Act redesigned the Medicare Part D benefit, and it mandated lower out-of-pocket caps for beneficiaries.
Now, that sounds great, but the problem is that these mandates offloaded the risk to Part D plan sponsors, who had to raise premiums to compensate for their increased costs.
Okay, so let's stop there, because you're using all kinds of fancy language from inside the industry.
There was this legislative act Brought to us by a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Kamala Harris, who wants to be the president.
It raised the premiums or it created an incentive or a requirement for private sector actors to increase premiums, correct?
Well, what it did was offload the risk onto Part D plan sponsors, insurance companies,
the private companies that provide the benefit.
They saw their costs increase as a result of the Inflation Induction Act, and they had
to scramble to raise premiums in order to offer a somewhat competitive product.
And Dr. Gorka, it wasn't just raised premiums.
There's also been some consolidation, so there's less choice for seniors for Part D plans.
And the benefits are a bit thinner, all as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act.
And so as a result of that distortion of the market and the coverage options, what did
the Harris-Biden administration do, Andy?
Well, I think they had to scramble.
They had to scramble. They saw that the increased premiums were, in fact, going up.
And what they did, they pulled a fast one.
They're using billions of taxpayer dollars in the form of a Medicare demonstration program through CMS, To offset the Part D premiums that have increased as a result of their own bad law.
So what they want, Dr.
Gorka, they don't want seniors facing the increased premium costs for their Medicare drug benefit right before the election and right before the annual enrollment period for Medicare begins, which is just around the corner on October 15th.
Wow. Wow.
So what should we do in response?
What should American citizens do in response?
You're talking about three and a half million people right now.
Tell us the right way to react.
Well, the scheme got the attention of Kentucky Senator Rand Paul.
You can support Rand Paul.
He's concerned that this action is a potential violation of the Hatch Act.
And as you know, the Hatch Act limits political activity by federal employees who work with federally funded programs.
He wrote the Department of Justice calling for an investigation.
And as a large seniors organization, and frankly, the only one that I know of, AMAC Action is supporting and applauding Senator Paul's action.
Because this investigation, light needs to be shined on these actions done by the Biden-Harris administration.
It's a bit dubious, and it's a well-timed maneuver, and it really doesn't pass the stink test, Dr.
Gorka. Wow, absolutely.
But this is just one example of the many things that you are doing at AMAC Action, AMAC.us.
Tell us why you exist and what your biggest concerns are right now in this festering city that is Washington, D.C. I think?
Healthcare, all aspects of it, including Medicare, which is why we're keeping an eye on this Part D fiasco caused by the Inflation Reduction Act.
Wow. Absolutely, absolutely imperative that we get some kind of response to the corruption in this city.
The way to do that is AMAC.us.
And you have at AMAC and the AMAC Action, these boot camps that you do for concerned citizens.
Can you explain what these boot camps that the Webbers are organizing across the country?
Well, these boot camps, we've run a few of them throughout the country.
Florida, we did Pennsylvania, we just did Long Island, New York.
They're designed to energize people, to get conservatives together with like-minded individuals,
to talk about ideas, to get involved in the political process, to work the polls, to become
advocates for the values that they believe in, and to show people that you're not alone.
There's many, many people who think the same way that you do.
We usually intersperse these boot camps with wonderful speakers, great events, and it's
a great opportunity for people to get together and realize that you're not alone.
We're in the majority.
We're just being ruled by a small, vocal minority.
And for those who are members, I think you have more than 2 million members of AMAC itself, and you can actually join.
I think we have a special deal with amac.org.
I think you've got a $1 membership special deal if you use my URL. Can you explain from your perspective, as an organization that represents millions of Americans, the stakes of November the 5th?
Could not be higher.
Literally, and I don't mean, everyone talks about how this is, you know, every election is an existential election.
This one really is.
This is such an important election.
We don't know what kind of country we're going to have if the left wins.
We've seen an erosion of our rights.
They do it right in front of us.
It's as if they're blatant about it.
They're not trying to cover up what they're doing.
The border is a huge issue for AMAC members, Dr.
Gorka. That will continue to be thrown open.
Our members are greatly concerned that if this border is left open and these people, these illegal aliens and illegal immigrants keep coming into this country, We're good to go.
I just double-checked it.
They have created it. It's amac.us slash drg, drg, a dollar for a membership for the whole year.
Is there a better deal than that?
I don't think so. amac.us slash drg.
Thank you, Andy Mangione, Senior Vice President, AMAC Action.
This is America First.
Gotta get through some cuts here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And another, if nothing else, a good topic for conversation is we were discussing the Tesla show last night when they rolled out the, um, did you see any of that?
No, the what? Tesla had another, like, live presentation last night of their latest designs.
Oh. Oh, man.
The two big things is, because they know the Cybertruck, now they have something called the RoboVan, which literally looks like something out of, like, Judge Dredd or Blade Runner.
The RoboVan? RoboVan.
Just look it up. I think it looks great.
I like it way more than the Cybertruck.
And they also revealed a line of robots that they are selling for like $30,000.
$30,000? Allegedly.
$30,000, right, Alex? That's what Jeff said.
Yeah. Wow. Elon even said on Twitter...
And a robo-taxi.
Oh, that's right. Completely autonomous.
No thanks. Elon even said on X that the robo-van is meant to have an Art Deco look to it.
I would trust the RoboTaxi more than the Uber drivers in this.
There you go, there you go not sure about the robots, but I love the look of the van
I Think I'm gonna go to sleep
You But that did you do think it's a good idea to sell dark
mega head on your store I mean in your store and And...
Well, I'd like to, but the Dark Maga hat is a campaign hat.
So I'm not going to copy a campaign hat.
You know what I mean? Copy that.
Thank you, sir. I'd love to get one.
Yeah, you can buy one.
You just have to go to the campaign website.
Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking of buying one for myself.
Because the longest time, the red hat was always the...
There was never, like, any really cool alternative besides just the red hat with the white font, but that one is pretty great.
Pretty cool. Good 16 and 17, Eric.
It's for the 2D segment.
Oh, good. Thank you, Jeff.
I have the photos. Coming with five.
Come out with five Five oh and pillow as well
Or are we doing car here instead of pillow?
Car, okay. Yeah, car 15.
What is going on?
You You
You I do think that
The crisis that we have just experienced in the ongoing effects of it because of these hurricanes
Are yet another example of the importance of having leadership at a moment of crisis who understands their role
and responsibility responsibility.
Again, every single day, I'm worried.
I'm worried that Jeff is smuggling in AI clips.
Jeff, did she just say that the hurricane response is proof that you need good leadership?
Yeah. I think she did a good job with this one.
And what exactly did she do?
She got DeSantis to not take his phone call, so that rallies up her base.
So that's a success. I think so.
MSNBC liked it. But it gets worse, doesn't it?
What does she say here with regards to the border?
This is on Univision.
This is even more stunning.
Eric, cut four, please.
South as well as what was coming north.
So I will put my record up against anyone in terms of the work I have always done and will always do to ensure we have a secure border.
I don't know. What is she doing here, Eric?
I can't... Again, she's speaking...
A secure border? It was the Univision Town Hall, so obviously she's going to sound tougher on immigration.
But they're as pissed with her as the open border than anyone else.
Again, like Jeff said, I think she genuinely believes that she has done a good job.
And you could argue, again, for the purposes of her base, bringing all these illegals to amnesty and make free Democrat votes.
Yeah, she does think she's done a good job.
All right. Well, let's go live.
Let's listen to a little bit of audio from the president, who's still talking in Aurora, Colorado.
We'll be discussing that benighted city later tonight on Newsmax.
But let's have a little bit of the audio feed.
But if you vote for Trump, you're going to have one hell of a great country.
We're going to build it back and fast.
Venezuelan illegals are the number two most resettled population, but they do it through their phone app.
And on day one of this Trump administration, you know, if you take a look at Springfield, Ohio, how about that?
They have about 50,000 people, no crime, beautiful community, everything nice, schools, everything nice.
They dropped in 32,000 people that are really illegal.
You know, they did it in such a way that they could make the case.
They said they did it through probation.
What's probation? They took them in through probation.
So I assume they assume they're like prisoners or something, and therefore they're legal.
They brought in 32,000 people into a community of 50, a community that was a nice community.
These kinds of news stories, 25,000 into a city of 58,000.
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On the topic of firearms, a man who did not carry a weapon of war in a war, because he's a liar, stolen valor, and all the rest, is Tim Walsh, who, I'm not sure I understand the logic here, but hey, he is a knucklehead, trying to explain why during the vice presidential debate he said, and yes, I met with school shooters.
Tim Tampon Walsh, cut six.
And Vice President Harris said, as she told you, be a little bit more careful on how you say things.
Well, I did it, you know, even the other day of just speaking passionately about these gun violence situations and meeting with these survivors.
I've sat in the room with the Sandy Hook folks, a friend with David Hogg who's been an activist on this.
People know in that, and then that gets spun in that, well, he didn't say something true.
It was very clear that I was talking about these veterans, very clear that I wear, you know, my...
I wear my emotions on my sleeve, and I do think in these positions, whether it be governor or being vice president of the United States, you do need to be careful.
Jeff, is it AI again?
Are you doing it to me? He messed it up again, too.
He said veterans. I mean, that clip, those two Kamala clips, if you're in the campaign, do you even bother prepping these people anymore?
Or just say, just go out there and see what you want?
Because it doesn't make a difference. But then I asked, why did you say you met with school shooters?
And he says, because I wear my emotions on my sleeve.
But he also screwed it up. He said, I was talking about the veterans.
No, that was when he got all screwed up when he lied to be in a war.
Is this something like verbal dyslexia?
It's called they're deflated.
They know they're losing.
They thought they were going to win six weeks ago, and they can't take the pressure.
I didn't know you were a psychiatrist.
Alex, what do you think of that explanation, that they're kind of deflated, and so when you're losing, it's hard to perform.
What do you think? I'm intrigued.
I think we have a Dr. Harbaugh in the building now.
I think it's going to be the second doctor in the building, right?
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It is Smith& Wesson, and we are honored to have with us the Director of Product Innovation, no less!
Grant Dubuque, welcome to America First!
Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
That's quite a title. And I have to say, I don't know if it's all because of you, but I went on to your website today thanks to your boss and a buddy of ours, Chad Robishaw.
And I hadn't been on the Smith& Wesson site for a long time.
I was like, I have to get up off the floor from all the new products that were like screaming at me from the website.
You guys have been busy!
We've been very busy over the past few years.
It's certainly not all me.
We have a great team here, product managers, design engineers, and everybody.
We all work together, and we certainly have been busy, that's for sure.
All right, so Smith& Wesson built itself on legendary wheeled guns.
One of my favorite weapons is a classic bull-barreled Model 10.
Can't beat a nice Model 10.
And, of course, the little snobby-nosed.38s.
The original Legendary Bodyguard was updated a few years ago into a little polymer frame 380.
There were some issues with the original Bodyguard.
Nobody's going to hide that.
But now you've got the 2.0 in a little, little nice case.
Let's put that up on the screen.
And I've got to tell you that...
I think this is a double stack 380.
I haven't shot one or handled one yet, but unless you're paying the reviewers...
No, no, not yet. We're not going to that one yet.
We'll save that. There's two different guns we're talking about.
First is the 380 Bodyguard 2.0.
Unless you're paying all the reviewers, Grant, this is a very cool gun.
Let's roll the first video in the background.
This is from a reviewer who...
I need to get on the show myself sometime.
He's got a very impressive beard.
He's a very good long-range shot, and I mean a very good long-range shot.
And this is, let's get his name up in front of three billion people, Honest Outlaw.
And the title for his review of your new handgun is Your New Favorite.380.
So, Grant, tell us what you've done to update the bodyguard.
So we basically took all the stuff that, you know, the first bodyguard was well-received.
It was small. It did what it needed to do.
But the firearms market's kind of changed over time, and people really want, you know, something they can actually grip that's not too small, but, you know, it's still small enough to stick in your pocket.
So we've made, obviously, we made some improvements to capacity.
Our old one was six. This one holds 10 or 12 with an extended mag.
We made it so you can actually hold it with three fingers so you can shoot it.
So that's been a super positive.
People like a gun that they can actually use when they're trying to defend themselves.
We made the trigger better.
We did a lot of things that are small details that people don't realize.
But these small slides, they're hard to grab onto.
So we put serrations everywhere.
So you pull it out of your pocket.
If you need to grab it, you can grab it.
And is it a fixed barrel or is it tilting?
Is this like a fixed 380?
It's tilting. Oh, wow.
So it's less recoil than a fixed barrel, like a PPK? Wow.
All right. I've got to try me one of those.
Now, here's the really exciting, as far as I'm concerned, because I love the M&P. The M&P semi-auto.
I have a compact in 40.
I love that gun. Now you've got it in a comped version with a compensator.
I think you've got a metal-framed version instead of the polymer as well for, like, race guns.
This thing looks like it's from outer space.
We can roll the video in the background from the S&W channel.
Tell us about the latest upgrade to the M&P line.
So we came out with three carry comps, actually.
We did the M&P compact polymer, which is probably your favorite.
We also did the metal in full size, and then we did a shield version that's a little bit smaller.
Is the shield going to be a single stack?
The Shield is a...
It's a Shield Plus, so it holds 15 rounds in the extended mag.
It's got a four-inch barrel on there.
It's a cool gun. And talk a little bit about how you've kind of mitigated some of the recoil with this built-in compensator.
Oh, we have basically a ported barrel, ported slide, so as you shoot it, it kind of...
It keeps that barrel down so you can get on target faster.
We borrowed that from our revolver line, so we use a very similar technology in some of our old PC revolver lines.
We borrowed the name shamelessly.
Carry Comp Power Port was something we've used in the past.
Like you said, we're a wheel gun company.
I like to steal shamelessly from our wheel gun past.
Tell us what you're seeing in the industry, because during COVID, it was just crazy.
I looked at the stats recently.
There's like 2 million background checks on average a month for firearms purchases.
What are you seeing in the industry?
Still a hunger for innovation?
It's definitely not as crazy as it was in COVID, but there's, you know, everyone's out there.
They want to see the newest, latest thing.
Keeps us on our toes. That's why we've been doing so many new products is just giving the consumer what they want.
All right. I'm going to keep my team on their toes while we're doing live.
I've sent an image of one final thing to my associate producer.
Maybe we'll have time to show it on screen because this, I checked the calendar.
It is not April the 1st, so it's not April Fool's Day.
Smith& Wesson is not associated with lever action carbines, let alone stainless lever action carbines in pistol calibers.
And we've got a picture of one.
Is this a joke on your website, or have you gone into lever actions, Grant Dubuque?
We started our lever action line at SHOT Show this year.
It's really great. It's been well received.
Some people don't know this, but actually the first partnership between Smith and Wesson was around a lever action.
It was a lever action pistol called the Volcanic, and we kind of used that That timing was where the name came up for this.
Their first patent was in 1854.
That's where we got the name from for the model 1854.
Going back in time to the volcanic.
That's something you don't hear every single day.
It looks beautiful. It's stainless.
It's got a picatinny rail on the top.
It looks like a polymer stock as well.
Grant, I think we're out of time, but we just haven't scratched the surface of what Smith& Wesson is doing.
Smith-Wesson.com.
Absolutely superlative stuff.
Thank you to the whole team for getting you on the show today.
We shall continue, but in the meantime, the new Bodyguard 2.0, the Compt M&P, and the new stainless lever action.
That's a good start. I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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What are they playing on the Trump rally from Aurora, Colorado?
Is it some campaign ad?
Some recruiting ad? I don't know.
We're going to find out. We're going to tell you momentarily.
But we have to squeeze in a few more cuts before we get to our amazing movie review with the one and only Chris Coles.
Just how racist is the New York Times and the establishment?
This racist.
Mara Gay just can't hold it back.
And she's talking about you, dear listener.
Cut 10. I think men are in crisis, actually, in this country.
I think that plays out different ways.
And not all men are in crisis, of course.
And not all men are just at home listening to Joe Rogan being angry or being recruited to fascism.
Some just need therapy, like we all do.
I go to therapy, that's great.
But I think we need to have a real conversation about that rather than allowing this kind of drift toward this faux masculinity that we see Donald Trump advancing.
So the real masculinity is what Doug Emhoff, Kamala's husband, beating up his girlfriend and getting the nanny pregnant, But the faux masculinity is President Trump getting shot in the head and getting up and saying fight, fight, fight. Okay.
Got it. Someone else has got it.
Is this young gay man who is being asked some very reasonable questions by...
Is this the name, Jeff?
Shane Ginsberg? Is this the chap who did the questioning?
That's the guy who's doing the questioning.
I love it. This guy posts amazing stuff on Instagram.
Shane Ginsberg asking a young man about what he's going to do on November 5th.
You said you're for Trump? You said you're Trump?
Well, I mean, you just saw me...
Break down the left's argument.
Why are you for Trump? I love his policies.
I love everything he stands for.
He's pro-America. He's knocking all this nonsense on the border.
We just have open borders for Kamala.
She makes no sense. She's always laughing or always drunk.
Trump is always talking about what are the changes he's gonna make.
Kamala is just joking around.
She's not someone to take serious.
And if she hasn't done anything in three years, you gotta believe she's not gonna do anything.
It's just crazy how people...
We'll just vote for somebody just because she's a woman, per se.
I can be a woman in 2024 if I want to be.
Exactly. Exactly.
And all this nonsense.
Listen, I'm gay, but I'm not with all this nonsense of all this he, she, they, we, you, we, they, all this BS. It's crazy how that's more important than the border.
How crazy is that?
And all these illegals committing all this crime.
It's just nonsense. It's just crazy.
Go Trump. That's all I gotta say.
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Impressive. Most impressive.
Seeming things good people wouldn't believe.
Oh, yeah.
you Talk to God. Let's go see him together.
I know I'm human.
And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now.
So some of you are still human.
This thing doesn't want to show itself.
It wants to hide inside an imitation.
It'll fight if it has to, but it's vulnerable out in the open.
If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies.
Nobody left to kill it.
And then it's won. The legendary Kurt Russell in a remake of a 1951 movie based on a short story, Who Goes There?
That is one of my favorites, and I know it is one of my team members' favorites movies.
We have waited a long time.
This is movie number 70 that we're going to celebrate in our mission to make movies great again with the one and only legendary Kurt Russell.
Mr. Reagan, a.k.a.
Chris Coles, my co-host.
Chris, let's start with...
What kind of movies are you into?
I know you're an actor, you're a writer, an incredibly successful YouTuber now with your Mr.
Reagan channel. I'm not a big...
I don't like horror movies, right?
I really... They don't excite me.
If a new one comes out, I'm not interested.
But the thing...
And the original Alien, I think, are two of the greatest movies made.
And I am a sci-fi geek.
Are you into horror movies per se?
What's your favorite genre?
No, not at all.
When I write screenplays, I tend to write, weirdly, suspense thrillers.
I really love suspense thrillers.
One of my favorite of all time TV shows is The Twilight Zone.
I also like how Alfred Hitchcock presents.
These are the things that inspired me to write in the way that I do.
And I will say, even though the thing...
It's technically a horror film.
There's a lot of gore in it, a lot of gross-out moments.
Jaws is also a horror film, right?
Really, if you break it down.
Alien is really a horror film.
But at the end of the day, some of these genres don't...
To encapsulate the entirety of the film.
I believe some films transcend their genre.
And I have to say, I do think The Thing is very certainly one of those pictures.
I won't say it's one of my favorite films.
I never saw it until we did this review.
And it's certainly got flaws.
When I was watching it, I was sitting there and I was thinking, this could essentially be like Alien Part 2, right?
This could be the sequel to Alien.
If the alien had killed Ripley, made it to Earth, been buried for 100,000 years, you know, whatever, they found it again, thought it out.
This could be Alien.
And then, of course, that the alien could then shapeshift.
This kind of encapsulates that same kind of theme.
It's even got this sort of eclectic cast of characters that you've got in Alien.
I think in many ways the production of this film was probably inspired a little bit by that film, Alien.
But it just didn't have the polish of the film, Alien.
It didn't have quite the aesthetic flair, the aesthetic professionalism.
Was it an excellent film to watch?
Yeah, I think it was, actually.
Do I think people would enjoy watching this today?
I do think they would enjoy watching it today.
It is a product of its time.
Obviously, it doesn't have the same computer effects that they would use today, but I think it benefits from that because there is just something about the horror elements in this film that I don't think can be matched with computer-generated effects.
It is a creepy movie.
Eric, what do we do with Chris?
He just said there are problems with this movie.
What do we do?
What do we do? We give him the clockwork orange treatment and make him re-watch the movie several times in a row.
With the eyelids pinned back.
All right, let's talk a little bit.
I mean, I can't believe, again, a movie you hadn't seen until we reviewed it.
Let's talk about the plot, because we don't usually do this for some people who haven't seen it.
It might be fun to do that. Let's start with one of the best lines in the first half of the movie.
It's the beginning of winter, and it's already been a crazy five minutes.
Let's play that cut. First goddamn week of winter.
Great line from McCready.
I don't know if you do this in your scripts, Chris, but I actually like it.
I prefer it. When a movie has no long intro, no build-up, they drop you into the action as soon as the credits start rolling.
The helicopter don't know where it's coming from.
Flies over this base in Antarctica, shooting at a dog, dropping hand grenades.
The Americans have to respond, shoot the crazy Norwegian in the head.
A helicopter explodes.
You've got to grab the attention of the viewer, don't you, Chris?
Oh, absolutely.
That's a strong-held belief by a lot of filmmakers.
It's a tried-and-true method.
In the film GoldenEye, famously...
There is quite a lot of setup to the actual plot of Goldeneye, but the film starts out with the explosion of this enormous building.
Of course, he has this thing where he bungee jumps off a dam.
He's got to jump after a plane to catch it.
This kind of high action at the very beginning of a film, and then you start to tease out the plot.
Oh, yeah.
Just puts everything into his roles.
He doesn't think about, like, is this a cheesy movie?
What's the production value on it?
He doesn't think about anything like that.
He just goes, you know what? This is my character.
This is how we would act.
I'm going to do this.
And he goes for it.
And he adds credibility and believability.
The only severe criticism I have of this film, and it is severe criticism...
Is that dumb hat.
I don't know what they were thinking with that hat.
They put him in some kind of weird Mexican cowboy hat sombrero thing.
It looks like something a mascot from Taco Bell would wear.
I'm not really sure what they're doing with that hat.
But other than the hat, I really love this movie, actually.
This scene walking through the glacier was actually filmed at the back lot in Los Angeles with a map painting around it.
This is when you realize old school effects could really work.
If you watched the behind the scenes, Kurt Russell went in first day for makeup and whatever.
And he looked in the corner and he saw that massive sombrero and he said, what the heck is that?
Who's the idiot who's got to wear that?
And of course it was him. I don't know.
Eric, do you like the sombrero?
I like it. I think it is McCready.
McCready is a bottle of whiskey, a pair of ice goggles and a sombrero, right?
And a chess computer. And a chess computer that he pours whiskey into.
The hat, it stands out.
It's iconic. You see it like instantly.
It's like, okay, we know which character this is.
He's the only guy wearing that hat.
It's great to have something like that in a movie where you instantly recognize a character like that.
Makes him stand out. And I think he wasn't even meant to be the lead.
I think he was helping John Carpenter out with the casting.
And then I said, uh, okay, no.
We're going to be McCready, and it is superb.
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How you doing, old boy?
I don't know who to trust.
I don't know what you mean by her.
Trust's a tough thing to come by these days.
Tell you what, why don't you just trust in the Lord?
That is our hero, McCready.
They've locked up Blair.
Why? Because Blair went crazy.
He broke the radio.
He broke up the helicopter.
Why? Well, because he wants to save civilization.
It is. John Carpenter's, probably his best movie, The Thing, 1982.
It's a simple premise, Chris.
It's, you know, a lot of Agatha Christie's stories are based on this.
Isolated locale, one killer, but who's the killer?
With the added twist that they didn't have in the 51 original movie, but was in the short story, that in this instance, the murderer can take on the form of any living thing.
Isn't this the super twist of John Carpenter's movie?
Oh, absolutely. You know, I do think that this goes beyond just the sort of whodunit, you know, we're trapped in the hotel with a murderer kind of story.
And this does something that I think the best stories and the best films especially do, and that is to explore an idea that you really can't explore in real life.
The best stories, what they do is they say, okay, let's think of a scenario.
It's like a thought experiment, right?
And this is actually what Einstein used to do, and this is how he developed his theory of relativity, right?
So you create a scenario and you work through it logically.
You know, what would happen in this particular scenario?
In this case, what would happen in this scenario where this alien can take on any human form?
Would these people turn on each other?
How would they act logically, rationally?
Would they even be rational or logical at all?
And then how would the whole thing end?
And you really go through it, and you know what?
I think they did a great job.
I did feel like, yeah, these characters in this scenario Would probably act this way.
I believed each and every one of them.
And I just thought it was a really great journey to go on with the director, with the writer, with the characters, the actors.
And I thought they did a phenomenal job of exploring an idea that maybe you've never thought about before.
Which one of the characters would you be?
Because we have this very, very jinky kind of basic – it's not even computer graphic.
It's kind of hand-animated graphics of the cell of the intruder and how it replicates the dog cell.
And then afterwards, the calculation that Blair works out that within 27,000 hours, if the alien makes it to mainland civilization, every human being would be replicated.
Would you be the man destroying the helicopter and the radio?
Or would you be the guy like the commander saying, I guess I should give my gun to somebody else because you guys don't trust me?
Who would Chris be amongst this amazing ensemble cast?
Well, every man's got to want to be Kurt Russell, don't they?
I mean, everybody wants to be the guy that saves humanity.
But would you sacrifice yourself to save civilization?
Oh, of course. I mean, aren't we trying to do that right now?
How come we always bring it up to the real world, Chris?
You're so good at that. Well, at the end of the day, look, I mean...
There's this meme on Twitter, right?
It's a picture of a guy holding a gun looking at the sunset.
And it's something about every man fantasizes about staying behind while his family goes off to resettle somewhere else.
And he stays behind to face the bad guys as they're coming to kill his tribe, to kill his family, whatever.
He's got to stay back. And people are always tweeting that going like, is this true, guys?
What's going on here?
And it's kind of true. I think men...
We need to be the hero.
We need to have some purpose.
And I think we're sort of genetically wired to be protectors, to be the kind of people that need to do our duty to God and country and to our family.
That's just, I think, who men are.
Women don't always understand it, but that's how we are.
And so this movie really expresses that well.
This is back in a day when you could...
You could show men acting out in masculine ways, sometimes violent ways, but for a purpose.
And it wasn't considered a bad thing, right?
And Kurt Russell really embodied that.
You know, a lot of the guys in this film embodied that.
And I think they did a great job.
The only thing that would obviously be the wrench in that situation, well, there's a couple.
One, you know, they could turn on each other.
They could not trust each other because of the particular circumstance.
And the other thing is, of course, We're good to go.
Is so beloved. Again, at the time that it was made, I don't think it had quite the production value of, say, Alien.
And because of that, I think this film was panned and it wasn't as appreciated as much as it probably should have been.
But now we can look back on it and look a little deeper and see the themes and realize that these actors did a great job and it was just a great story.
Great story. Amazing work by Rob Bottin.
We'll talk about that later.
But I think you're right. Deep down, everybody wants to be in a scenario, Chris, where another guy shouts to him, Get the flamethrower!
I mean, we're just waiting for that moment, aren't we, Chris?
Yeah, you know, there's so much about this film that, you know, it does have that kind of aspect, that kind of like a cathartic aspect of like stuff you can never really do in real life, unless you're friends with Elon Musk, because I think he invented a flamethrower at some point, didn't he? Yeah, but you can get them at the local gun show in Virginia, actually, and they're completely legal.
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I don't know.
Thousands of years ago it crashes and this thing gets thrown out or crawls out and it ends up freezing in the ice.
I just cannot believe any of this voodoo bull.
Chiles? Happens all the time, man.
They're falling out of the skies like flies.
Government knows all about it, right, Mac?
You believe any of this voodoo bullshit, Blair?
Chiles? Chiles?
Chariots of the gods, man.
They practically own South America.
I mean, they taught the Incas everything they know.
So come on now, McCready.
The Norwegians get a hold of this, and they dig it up out of the ice.
Yes, Gary, they dig it up.
They cart it back. It gets thawed out, wakes up.
Probably not in the best of moods.
The Chariots of the Gods.
For those of you not familiar with that reference, that is a book that was on my father's bookshelf.
I can remember pulling down the Erich von Däniken paperback.
It is from 1970, what?
Three, four. It is the genesis of the ancient angels.
Alien theory that is so popular today, a reference to popular culture from 1982's The Thing.
All right, we're not going to give away all the spoilers or who all the alien replicants are, but where does it come from?
Well, it comes from a spaceship that landed in the ice long ago.
So how long ago? Well, let's listen.
Jesus, how long you figure this has been in the ice?
Jesus, how long you figure this has been in the ice?
Well, the backscatter effect's been bringing things up from way down around here for a long time.
I'd say... I'd say the ice it's buried in is 100,000 years old, at least.
Those Norwegians blew it up.
Yeah. 100,000 years old, the Norwegians found it, carved out the alien, it defrosted, and it woke up.
Let's talk about the ensemble cast.
Not a lot of, what shall we say, character arcs for these individuals, but each one of them...
Bring something to the table.
Windows, the radio operator.
Child's the guy who's got a little bit of a temper issue.
We've got the captain who's not really up to the job.
That's Gary. How important is it here to have people you can almost instantly plug into an archetype?
Well, not only that, but they're distinct enough, each of them, that you can identify them throughout the film.
They didn't just cast people that they thought might be interesting to watch.
They cast people who were distinctly different from each other and created this kind of eclectic cast.
And you could say, okay, this guy is, like you said, like the leader.
Maybe he's not perfectly suited to be the leader, but he's got this sort of almost grandfatherly look that you can tell at a glance he's, yeah, he's the oldest one there.
He's the elder. He's the one that they're all kind of like looking to.
You know, Kurt Russell's the rogue.
You know, of course he's going to be the hero.
He's the cool guy. He's the rogue.
You got this other guy who reminded me quite a lot of Mad Murdoch from The A-Team.
He's kind of a bit of a nutty guy, you know, working there.
And it's a great eclectic cast.
You know, they didn't just have one token black guy like is typical of the 80s.
They had two full token black guys.
Well, one of whom... One of whom I should say plays, I would say, a pretty pivotal role throughout the film.
I mean, they both do. Yeah.
And the ending, I'm not going to give away the ending, but I will say I'm curious what you think about it because I don't usually like it.
I will say it is a cliffhanger.
And I don't usually like ambiguous cliffhanger endings.
It's open-ended. We shall analyze it.
We'll analyze it with our in-house carpenter expert, Eric Lindrum.
We are talking John Carpenter's The Thing, one of my favorite movies.
I'm not into horror, but this is a thriller, horror, whodunit, and most importantly, it's science fiction as well.
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If anyone messes with me, the whole camp goes.
you Come on, child. Burn me.
Put those torches on the floor and back off.
Back off. Way off.
You'd have done the same thing.
Don't argue with him.
Poison rat.
It's cool, man. Come on. Yeah. Yeah, man. Just relax.
Anybody touches me, we go.
Don't mess with a man holding a stick of dynamite and a road flare.
I was worried because those road flares, they give off sparks rather randomly.
I was just waiting for one of them to land on the stick of dynamite.
That is McCready. He's come back from disappearing and they don't trust him.
Is he one of them? Is he the alien?
And We're just about to find out which one of them is an alien in a seminal scene with some amazing prosthetic work, including a real double amputee.
We're not going to show it because this is a family show.
But how do they make sure that they're not the alien?
Well, McCready has an idea.
Let's play the test.
You see, when a man bleeds...
It's just tissue. The blood from one of you things won't obey when it's attacked.
It'll try and survive.
Crawl away from a hot needle, say.
I've got to ask you, no reveals here, Chris, but you said you hadn't seen it before.
When he puts the hot needle into the Petri dish with the alien's blood.
Did you jump off the couch, Chris?
Well, you know, you do know what's going to happen.
You know one of those petri dishes is going to react.
They did it in a really clever way, though, because they kind of distract you just before he touches that little poker down on the dish.
There is that moment.
It's quite loud. It's quite a profound moment.
I don't know. I was kind of relaxed.
I think I was a little bit too chill watching this.
But yeah, there was a number of moments where there was a few jump scares in this movie where I was like, oh my gosh.
And I'll say this. These prosthetic creatures – I mentioned this at the top of the show.
There's something about the practical effects, the practical sculptures and creatures – There was a couple times that I really was like, holy cow, that is a freaky looking thing.
I mean, it kind of takes you off guard sometimes, you know?
It is horrifying.
I mean, it's really horrifying.
I don't think modern cinema can match what they did in this film.
It is so absolutely creepy.
Not everything looks real, let's be honest.
Not everything in this film looks real.
But there's something about it being creepy or being a little bit off that somehow makes it even worse sometimes.
It's a little bit unnatural, a little bit artificial, a little bit weird, and it makes it even more creepy.
So they really did their job, and I actually love this test that he does where he tests the blood to see if it's going to react to the poker.
It really works.
I mean, it makes sense.
I don't know if that was in the original story or what, but I remember hearing that in the film and going, yeah, that actually makes sense within the context of the rules of the story that they've written.
That makes sense. So like I say, they're exploring an idea.
That they've created and they did it really, really well.
They did it very well because there's actually not his hand.
That's not MacReady's hand.
That's a fake hand. And that's how the monster comes out of the Petri ditch because it's actually coming out of Kurt Russell's arm and it's not his arm.
So it's simple stuff but clever stuff.
So I've got to drill down on this because I love this movie.
Eric loves it too. You say you're impressed with it half the time and then you say it's got problems.
What are the problems with it?
Well, like I said, okay, so if you watch Alien and then you watch this movie, I think you'll notice the difference in the production quality.
And I think it has a little bit something to do with just the decisions that were made about what the Alien's going to look like and the level of gore and all this kind of stuff.
stuff.
What they did with Alien and what they did with – originally with Jaws – well, what
they ended up doing with Jaws is they hid the creature for a long time.
Now in this film, the creature is also hidden for a long time.
But it takes on multiple forms and it's really in your face.
And the way it's created, a lot of times like the blood and this kind of stuff doesn't
look naturalistic.
It – early on in the film, one of the Norwegians gets shot in the face.
It doesn't look like a naturalistic gunshot wound, right?
It looks like a movie gunshot wound from the late 70s, early 80s, this kind of thing.
Whereas in Alien… I don't know what they were thinking when they made that film, but they made everything look basically perfect.
With Alien, it's easy because they made a decision, we're going to film in the dark because we've got a guy in a suit and we don't want it to look like a guy in a suit.
So we're going to hide him in the dark and you barely see him.
Here, you actually see the monster because they want to show off its shape-changing capacity.
And with Jaws, you're absolutely right.
The only reason they had the orange barrels shot into Jaws is because Bruce, the robot shark, would break 40 times a day.
And so they couldn't show the shark.
And it was a desperation move.
So, yeah, it's a bit different here.
Eric, chime in on...
Because let's give credit.
Rob Bottin. Let's put Rob Bottin.
Chris, the guy who made the monsters...
The genius was 21 years old when he made these monsters.
I mean, absolutely incredible.
The only movie he'd done before was The Howling.
He begged Carpenter to be the ghost pirate for one scene in the movie The Fog.
And then he gives us this.
Then we have, Eric, Stan Winston does the animal effect of the dog, right?
The dog kennel creature when it transforms into the hideous, the first time we really see it on screen.
And then when it comes to the photography, I just loved it.
There's this use of a dual lens.
I've sent the picture to Eric that he's done a couple of times in the movie where there's just, you know, Kurt Russell in the background.
And then there's the person in the front who's trying to work out who the bad guys are.
I think this is... Eric, give us your thoughts on the thing.
Oh, goodness. I've tried to think long and hard as to why this is my favorite movie of all time and has been, I think, since at least high school.
I've loved the movie for that long.
In one word, atmosphere.
This movie is rich in atmosphere.
And a big part of that, we haven't talked about it yet, is the great score by the late, great Ennio Morricone, the original soundtrack, the main theme which simulates a heartbeat, to the other tracks like Humanity and others.
It very much conveys this sense of foreboding and dread.
It basically tells the viewers right off the bat, number one, there's something very wrong, and you don't know why.
And number two...
There's something, things are about to get worse, and you don't know how.
And it contributes on top of other things as well.
Of course, the performances, as you said, the actors with their facial expressions, their reactions to this creature, this horrifying creature.
The location, filming on location, not in Antarctica, obviously.
It was in Canada. It was in Alaska.
But they did, I mean, yeah, some stuff was on a soundstage, like you said, with matte paintings.
But they did largely film in snowy locations as well to convey the sense of desolation and isolation.
Well, and a refrigerated set.
They actually had a refrigerator.
Refrigerated set. And to that concept of enclosure, and you know this, Chris, most sets don't have ceilings, right?
Because you're coming in with gear and whatever.
He said, no, I want ceilings because I want this to look like a science station in Antarctica and super, super closed in.
So we'll continue.
We have to rate it. We have to find a unit to rate it out of.
And then final thoughts in a moment.
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Alright, so I'm glad you mentioned Ennio Morricone.
Amazing music. That just...
Very kind of Jorzy.
Superb. We've recognized Rob Bottin.
We've recognized Stan Winston.
The voice of the chess computer was Adrienne Barbeau, a mainstay of John Carpenter movies.
If you're a kid from the 80s, you are very appreciative of Miss Barbeau, former wife of John Carpenter.
The... Trouble with the movie, of course, was it made no money, and the critics absolutely hated it.
It cost $15 million to make, and as a cinema product in its first release made less than $20 million.
So it broke Carpenter.
I don't think he's ever recovered from the lack of response, although it is understandable.
Why? Because another deadly alien movie was released at the same time.
My certain Steven Spielberg and his E.T. the extraterrestrial.
But how important is timing, Chris, in Hollywood that you have this horrific alien story and along comes the cutesy little alien?
Yeah, you know, sometimes it's just a little bit of luck.
You know, I feel like...
I maybe was a little bit unfair about this film.
I'm not trying to be negative.
I'm trying to be balanced and explain why maybe it didn't do as well as Alien.
It wasn't as respected as Alien.
But, you know, there's one thing.
I've mentioned this about other films that we've covered on the show.
Sometimes, I feel like if a film doesn't measure up to the highest quality of standards of a particular era...
It's just dismissed because people are looking at it as just a contemporary film made in the era.
Is it one of the best?
Maybe not compared to some of the others, but it gains something.
When you're watching it from the future, right?
We are now in the future.
And we're looking back at a film from the 80s.
And this is a period in which we have recognized that we have lost some things.
We have lost some things that we cherished in the 80s.
Or maybe we didn't even realize that we should cherish, but we cherish them now because we've lost them.
So we look at something like a film from the 80s like this, and it's got that character.
It's got something about it that we feel like we need in our current era.
And so we look at this and we say, you know what?
There are things about this that we didn't really appreciate at the time,
but that we appreciate now.
And so now I think this is actually one of those kinds of films that at the
time was underappreciated, but now we can look back and actually enjoy it more than
the people who went to the theaters and watched it in the cinema in the 80s.
I think I've worked it out, Eric.
I think I've worked it out. He's trying to furiously backpedal, but we will not let him.
We know why he doesn't like this movie.
He doesn't like this movie because, Eric, what has been his standard for a movie he likes?
Do you remember? For the last 69 movies?
Yep, and this goes into what I said was the greatest thing about it, his atmosphere.
His metric for rating movies, of course, is would you like to live in the world of this movie?
And I think we can all agree we would not want to live in a world where this thing exists.
We don't want to be... On an isolated science station in Antarctica with the alien there.
So we will excuse you because that is a good metric.
One final thing before we rate it.
I've got to give chops.
Kurt Russell must be a big gun guy.
This, when he shoots the first incarnation of the alien, watch his handling of the shotgun.
There are no slugs in this shotgun.
There's no birdshot.
There's no double art. And he so perfectly simulates the recoil.
You believe he is pumping a one-ounce lead slug into that horrific Robbo-T. Oh, sorry.
Stan Winston Monster.
So, really, I'm a gun guy.
I know it's a small detail.
But when you see somebody, understand that...
When you stand there and shoot a gun and nothing moves and the gun doesn't move, everybody realizes you're taken out of the moment if you're a gun guy.
Kurt Russell, he knows how to act, and not just act himself, but to act with inanimate objects such as 12-gauge shotguns.
All right. Chops to Kurt Russell.
We'll see him in a moment.
I think we have to settle on a unit.
There we go. Boom. Look at that.
Look at that. What a dude.
Let's settle on a unit of measure for grading it.
How about out of 10 Petri dishes?
Is that a good unit, Chris? I think that sounds just fine.
All right. So you have the challenge for a modern audience.
I have for the panoply of all great movies.
Would a modern audience like 1982's The Thing?
I think so. Like I said, I think just going back, and I will say just living in the world is just one of my metrics.
That's not my entire metric.
And I will say I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed watching this film.
I'm trying to rate it objectively, but on a personal level, I actually really, really loved watching this, and I'm so glad you guys chose it.
So I actually am going to rate this, I would say, relatively highly.
It's not one of the best films I think we've reviewed, but I certainly think people will love watching it.
So I'm going to give it a seven.
I think people should watch it.
I think they'll love it. Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.
All right. A prequel was not made in 2011.
We will not discuss that movie that does not exist.
I will give this as one of my favorite movies.
And, you know, Because otherwise Eric's going to get violent with me.
I'm going to give this 9 out of 10.
I'm sorry. As a thriller, as a whodunit, it's getting a 9 out of 10.
All right, Chris. We have a choice to make for our 71st movie review.
What is it? Well, you know, we talked about this last week.
I don't know if you want to go there yet.
We could always switch it. I've got a huge list.
But I've been wanting to watch this for a while.
It's going back a ways.
It's my favorite ever Hitchcock.
I would love to watch.
The Lady Vanishes.
All right.
An unusual choice for Hitchcock.
Usually it's the famous ones, North by Northwest or what have you.
But The Lady Vanishes is an underrated classic.
And we shall go there, my friend.
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