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Sept. 20, 2024 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Kamala's disaterous Oprah interview

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get my laptop.
	I'm going to go ahead and get my laptop.
	Okay, I'm out here.
	I'm out here at the Fairfax County Government Center and it is the first hour of early voting
	and the energy is absolutely amazing.
	It is so fun.
	We've got so much excitement, so much enthusiasm, so many voters.
	So come on out and vote.
	I'm confused.
	Conservatives hate early voting.
	We want to go on election day.
	Who took that video?
	Who's celebrating conservatives?
	Packing the government centre this morning and voting.
	I didn't see any Democrats.
	Now that's interesting.
	I think we need to ask her.
	Hey, Jeff, can you get us the woman who made that video?
	Who was that?
	That was Katie Gorka.
	Who's that?
	Oh, yes!
	My wife!
	The chairwoman of the GOP for the biggest county in Virginia.
	We should give her a call.
	Is she there?
	John, is she there?
	Let's do it!
	Katie Gorka!
	Greetings!
	Hey, husband!
	Jeff, what did she just say to you offline?
	She said it's really easy to do a podcast with Jennifer Horne, but not to be interviewed by me, right?
	Did she actually say that?
	That's pretty much exactly what it was.
	That's a good quote.
	Alright, that's a good start to this interview.
	That was really, I'm so impressed you did that.
	Can you tell us, because you left early morning, 45 days before the actual election, and all I saw were Republicans in your video.
	What's going on, Katie Gawker?
	I'm telling you, it's so eye-opening.
	I mean, I suspected that this was going to be the case because you just look at the numbers who show up for Trump versus the numbers who show up for Kamala.
	There is so much passion and excitement for Donald Trump and the whole Republican ticket.
	And you can only just see for one second at the very end of my little video, there's one little blue tent with three people there and not a single supporter.
	I think they're going to have a really hard time this year drumming up interest in this election.
	But this is weird because we always tell ourselves that they have the ground game, they're organized, and we only wait till election day.
	So what changed that there are no Democrats there this morning, and then you have so many people with giant flags, in a good mood.
	Vince Colonese was out there interviewing people.
	We've got photographs of our friends voting with their kids and everything else.
	What changed in 2024, Katie?
	Well, I'll tell you partly what changed is President Trump told us, get out there and vote early.
	We may not like this rule, but as long as this is the rule, we are going.
	Oh, what's going on?
	We can't have it freeze on us.
	Call her up on her cell phone straight away because we need to celebrate what we witnessed in that video this morning from Virginia.
	I know it's insane.
	45 days of voting and of course you have to pay for it if you're in the Commonwealth of Virginia as a taxpayer.
	But there were no Democrats and we were there in force.
	Why?
	Because President Trump has a motto.
	He has a plan.
	Too big to rig.
	They don't have COVID.
	They don't have that cover.
	And of course 21 states of the union have changed their legislation since 2020 to make things like private financing of elections AKA Mark Zuckerberg dropping $420 million for drop boxes in predominantly Democrat districts.
	That stuff is gone.
	It's out.
	We are prepared to do what?
	Even if it's not ballot harvesting, it's banking the vote.
	Katie, NSA tried to compromise you there, but you're back.
	I'm glad you think it was the NSA and that wasn't your way of shutting me up.
	I wouldn't... I can't do that!
	I'm the second lady... I'm the second gentleman of Fairfax County.
	I would never do that to the boss.
	So tell us, what's different this year?
	You think it's down to the energy President Trump is generating?
	Well, I think it's the energy that he's generating, but it's also the fact that he has told us to vote early.
	We don't like it.
	We don't like early voting.
	We don't like no-excuse absentee voting.
	But as long as these are the rules, we are going to vote by these rules so that we can win back power and change the rules.
	Right, so let's do the juxtaposition.
	Let's look at the other candidates.
	So she won't do real interviews.
	If she does, it's canned, it's 16 minutes long, and instead she does these puff things.
	This was Oprah last night.
	I want everybody to pay attention to the next 44 seconds.
	This is cut three.
	This is the Democrat Party candidate's argument from her surrogate, Oprah, as to why you should vote for the current vice president.
	Play cut.
	I just want to say, for all of you watching who are still on the fence, you're in the middle, you're independent as I am, or whether you're just still don't know what you're going to do, this is the moment for all decent people.
	All caring people who want the best for yourself and you want the best for other people.
	This is the moment for people who are tired of all of the bickering and all of the name-calling.
	People who are exhausted by the craziness and the made-up stories and the conspiracies.
	This is the moment.
	So, Katie, the answer with Kamala standing right next to her, to inflation, to open borders, to rampant crime, to wars in the Middle East, to wars in Europe, the answer to all of that is virtue signaling because only decent people vote for Kamala Harris?
	I just feel bad.
	I mean, all these people that have been just, you know, had the wool so utterly pulled over the eyes, who've drunk the Kool-Aid, you know, it's crazy.
	Let her go say what she says.
	But I'm telling you, everyday Americans know that the last three and a half years of the Biden administration have been terrible.
	For American families, it's been terrible for children with the crazy progressive agenda telling us boys can become girls.
	And you know how I know that Americans see better?
	Because they were showing up this morning at the polls.
	They are passionate and excited for Trump.
	And there is no excitement whatsoever for Kamala Harris.
	Out in force, 45 days early voting, and not for the Democrats.
	I'm really buoyed.
	That's exciting.
	How important, I say it every hour, TrumpForce47.com.
	If you go to TrumpForce47.com, you become part of the team, and they give you names of your neighbors who are Republicans who need a little encouragement to go and vote.
	How important is that, Katie?
	It's super important.
	We've got to connect with people.
	And I think especially right now when there are still people, I don't know, not too many, but there are some who still watch mainstream media.
	It's up to us to help open their eyes and to show that it is okay to vote for President Trump.
	This is the way you want to go.
	That's why I think that neighbor to neighbor contact is so important.
	Absolutely.
	Trump Force 47.
	But I also say get in touch with your local GOP.
	I mean, that's who I am.
	We've got thousands of door knockers out there working the streets in Fairfax County.
	This is why we've got the excitement because we've got a big network of people and we're building that excitement and that enthusiasm.
	I have one thing to check with you first.
	I need a fact check.
	After a whole week of going out with you every night to GOP events, being your bodyguard, your chauffeur, putting up the GOP tents at the Hispanic Festival last weekend in Herndon, can you confirm or deny that tonight I don't have to work for you?
	No, you can do what you want tonight.
	Do I get one evening off?
	Just one, though.
	You're not going to change your mind in like two hours, are you?
	No, I reserve the right to change my mind.
	That's why she's the boss.
	She's my muse.
	Follow her at GawkerKaty.
	It's backwards for some reason on Twitter.
	I don't know why.
	But for the most important thing you can do today, TrumpForce47.com.
	We can do it.
	TrumpForce47.com.
	And don't forget, if you want to hear stories of real fighters every week, it is Katy's new podcast with Jennifer Horne, The Happy Women Podcast.
	You don't even have to be a member of the Fairest Sex to listen.
	Follow them wherever you get your podcasts.
	They're blowing up on YouTube as well.
	Support the President.
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	Get all your America First gear at SebGorkerStore.com.
	It's Friday!
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	That was fun.
	We should have her on again.
	What do you think, guys?
	Call in and tell me.
	This is America First.
	♪♪ ♪♪
	I love the fact that they give me Led Zeppelin for my bumper music.
	That really pisses me off.
	Is that Eric?
	No, that's Alex.
	He knows you like Led Zeppelin.
	Alright, let me guess.
	You're one night off.
	That'll be four or five cigars, listen to about six podcasts, a movie from the 80s.
	I already had a big Washington cigar this morning.
	It was good.
	And an hour on Twitter.
	Only?
	Only?
	Okay.
	I think Jeff knows me.
	Thanks for having me, guys.
	Bye.
	See you later.
	Bye.
	That was good.
	Good, good, good.
	Um...
	Come in with the thing we used for b-roll, John.
	Let's use it here.
	The 15.
	Cut 15.
	Copy that.
	And then you've got the gnolls.
	Cut.
	I'll tee that up.
	I'm going to pot it down before the end because it's so long.
	About the last 30 seconds is his, like, kind of analysis.
	She's about a minute of it.
	So if you just want to play her... Oh, I don't need him.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't need him.
	Good.
	Son of a... Cut 13.
	Cut 13, yep.
	Yep.
	And then this is what I have for his, uh...
	Yep.
	It's the Nolanator.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm good.
	I had one of my George Washington cigars this morning.
	It was delightful.
	You know, I really like having them in my humidor, so depending on how robust a person is coming over, I can say, here you are.
	Here's a baseball bat with Trump's face on it.
	Are you ready for this cigar?
	I might try to.
	My backlight's here.
	Yeah, you're going to kill the backlights.
	I know.
	It's a little heavy.
	Hmm.
	Just rotate.
	Just rotate.
	Have the bookcase behind you.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Let's see.
	Is that?
	Hmm.
	Remove all this junk.
	Usually they have me do it through the studio.
	Oh, do you have titles for that 1A and then the third hour?
	I do.
	I'll give you everything.
	Who's gonna post them?
	Casio.
	I'll send them all to Casio.
	I'm writing them down.
	Do we have an image of... Am I racist?
	If I mention it?
	No, sorry.
	Is that a bug?
	That's their new movie.
	I'll mention it in the b-block.
	I'll find an image now.
	Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Nice.
	This is perfect.
	Oh, come on.
	Make sure my phone's on silent.
	Bye!
	Good.
	Do I email that to you, John?
	Yeah, the SNC-DC one.
	Okay.
	We're coming in with cut.
	cut 15.
	Yeah, cut 15, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'll see you next time.
	Bye.
	you you
	Okay, take a look if you want to see the energy in Virginia.
	Who's voting today?
	This is early voting.
	First day of early voting.
	Look at where the energy is.
	Look at the people that are out, ready to vote for President Trump and Hong Kong and the Republican ticket.
	And there's the Democrat side.
	That's Virginia 2024.
	No Democrats in the pathetic little tent and just a flood.
	If you told me there are going to be scores of Republicans 45 days early in the Commonwealth voting today, I would have said nuts, not possible, even under my wife's tutelage as chair of the GOP.
	But that's what we saw.
	Absolutely exciting, guys.
	It's up to us.
	We can win it.
	But what is going to be the key issue?
	Well, at least for the lunatics on the left, it's the capacity to kill even more babies.
	I guess a million a year is not enough.
	How do we change that?
	Well, maybe let's talk truthfully about what an abortion is.
	Here's a stunning clip I've played before and I want to play it again.
	Cut 13.
	I got pregnant and this is embarrassing, but I was addicted to drugs.
	My doctor said, how dare you bring A baby into this world when you're addicted to drugs is going to be damaged or neurologically damaged.
	So I got really upset and I had an abortion.
	But when I had the abortion, I told the doctor that I wanted to stay awake.
	He said, why?
	And I said, so I never do this again.
	I was awake for the whole thing.
	And there was a red medical trash can.
	And I watched him throw my baby in the trash, and it was the most painful experience of my life.
	You know, they herd you into this waiting room, and they shut the door, and you can't go out.
	Why don't we hear stories like that more often?
	Let's ask the man who actually broadcast it from The Daily Wire, a great patriot, Michael Knowles of The Michael Knowles Show.
	Welcome back.
	Happy Friday.
	Happy Friday, Dr. G. Good to be with you.
	So, I'm not being facetious here, and I know you're a good Catholic, as am I, or I try to be.
	There are 900,000 babies murdered every year in that fashion, and I can't remember the last time I heard one of the women tell the truth about the experience.
	Why is that, Michael?
	I can't remember the last time I heard a Democrat use the word abortion.
	They talk about abortion incessantly, but they always use a euphemism.
	They always talk about women's rights or reproductive freedom or any manner of nonsensical euphemisms.
	Obviously, abortion has nothing to do with reproduction.
	It's the antithesis of reproduction.
	They do that because they know that the reality of abortion is ghastly, and anyone I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat.
	I don't care if you've given lots of thought to bioethical matters.
	I don't care if you're religious or you're agnostic.
	When you encounter the reality of abortion, you just know.
	Every person with an even semi-functioning conscience knows it is totally ghastly.
	And so they have to hide the reality of that.
	And by the way, they'll go further, especially in the case of Kamala Harris.
	She just told a huge whopper of a lie about abortion just within the last few days.
	But when she was Attorney General of California, When these grisly abortion cases came out, when abortionists would admit on undercover video to violating the law, even the already lax abortion laws on the books, Kamala Harris would prosecute people.
	She would prosecute the pro-lifers who exposed the abortionists committing the crime.
	So they have to cover this up.
	They have to hide it.
	If the reality of abortion were known even to a fraction of the voting electorate, we would not tolerate this.
	You're a man of the world, and this came to me recently, and I'm trying to find the answer to it, because it vexes me, it perplexes me.
	I've been to many countries, Africa, Asia, lived in Europe.
	I can't think of another nation, anywhere, developed or not, where the taking of a child's life, of the unborn, is a perennial, evergreen political issue, so much so that one of the two parties in the nation only bleats about that.
	Why in America?
	It happens in America, I think, because we are founded with this creedal aspect, which is that we love freedom.
	You know, Americans love freedom, and that's a good thing.
	Real freedom is a wonderful thing, and it's one of the things that makes our country so special.
	But our founding fathers all warned That this liberty could be abused to licentiousness.
	You see this even before the founding era.
	You see it in the Rhode Island Charter, 1663.
	You see it in the New York Constitution in 1777.
	You see it throughout the writings of our founding fathers and framers.
	This warning, warnings from Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, that if people mistook liberty for licentiousness, if they mistook the political freedoms we have to do the right thing and live in a flourishing way for just the ability to do whatever we want, Contrary to the rights of others, contrary even just to reality, then the country would fall apart.
	And so I think what happened, and you especially saw this in the pro-abortion movement that began in the early 20th century, really took off in the 60s, then the Supreme Court created a license to abortion in Roe v. Wade.
	You see this kind of license absolutely Explode and the left knows it's on really really shaky ground with this issue It's why they don't use the blunt language and they don't really show you the images because even historically speaking Abortion was was always illegal basically everywhere in American history in the 17th and 18th and 19th centuries
	Back when surgical abortion was impossible and chemical abortion was dubious, the law often didn't even address it.
	You know, it was just common sense that you don't kill a baby and it would be difficult to do, you know, even if people wanted to.
	But with the advent of Margaret Sanger's pro-abortion movement, Margaret Sanger whose organization became Planned Parenthood, you saw this really begin to take off.
	And now, I'm sorry to say, The numbers you cited, I think, are even a little bit outdated.
	The abortion numbers had come down below a million for a while.
	They were in the mid-800,000s per year.
	But with the advent of the abortion pill, which now is responsible for the majority of abortions in America, that number's up well over a million again.
	I think in 2023 it was something like 1.2 million babies killed through abortion.
	Yeah, it's really quite perverse that we get rid of that absolute, awful non-law that was
	Roe v. Wade.
	We throw it back to the states and then last year we have a record number of abortions
	in America.
	We're going to continue the discussion with Mike Knowles.
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	You You
	you you
	Yep.
	while you're converting that.
	It's short for virtuous pedophiles.
	Not virtuous as in they're better than everyone because they're attracted to children, but virtuous like having moral standards and a sexual orientation that they have no control over, like the rest of us.
	Before you get all worked up, I'm talking about pedophilia.
	Not child molestation or rape.
	Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children.
	It's a paraphilia.
	There's a link to more information about it in the description.
	Videos I've made in the past explaining the kind of human diversity and development.
	Molestation and rape are different.
	These are abusive actions that often have nothing to do with attraction.
	Many child abusers are actually sexually attracted to adults, but they act out on children.
	Meaning you probably don't object to pedophiles because you're compassionate and rational, but you may loathe child molesters and rapists because they violate people.
	I personally try not to judge either.
	Have you seen that, Michael?
	That is one of the craziest things maybe I've ever seen.
	You can always tell with the eyes.
	Yes.
	You know, those crazy eyes give you away.
	It's Helta Skelta eyes.
	It's Manson.
	It's Charles Manson eyes.
	Where is that from?
	Jeff found it.
	Jeff, where did you find that?
	Lives at TikTok.
	Lives of TikTok.
	But I looked her up.
	She has, like, a Wikipedia page.
	Oh, she's a sexologist who's run away and lives in Slovenia now because the internet is hurtful or something.
	Yeah, I'd probably run away if I made that video and that went viral.
	Good grief.
	That's the next one.
	That's the thing.
	That's the eyes!
	Hang on.
	Hold that.
	I'm going to post that on Twitter.
	That's too good.
	It's always the eyes.
	You know who she reminds me of?
	The disinformation czar.
	Do you remember?
	The eyes.
	Maybe it's her.
	Maybe it's her.
	That's the way my eyes would look if I walked in the street and there was a bus about to hit me.
	Oh, man.
	At what point in your education do you say, you know what I want to do with my life?
	I want to defend pedophiles.
	That's my career.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I need the clicks.
	I really badly need the clicks.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, libs of TikTok.
	That girl, Kaia Rejcik, just finds the best clips.
	Some days, my show, you know... How long is the Biden thing, the Jill Biden thing?
	I think it's about 30-some seconds.
	Can you just give me a taste of it, if you've got it, the new cut, John?
	Or just prep it.
	Well, I'll use it later.
	It's 16.
	16, yeah.
	Oh, it's 16?
	Oh, play me a couple of sections of it.
	It's the first time Jill has joined us and goes to show how important this year is when she's about to speak to the Boathouse.
	Today, at the top of our meeting, Jill's going to give an update on He is on the way out.
	She's at the head of the table.
	to fundamentally change the approach and fund, how we approach and fund women's health services.
	So I'd like to turn it over to Jill and for any comments she has.
	Wow.
	It's all yours, kid.
	Thank you.
	He is on the way out.
	And she's at the head.
	He is on the way out.
	She's at the head of the table.
	That's our first female vice president.
	Yep, there we go.
	Go.
	Gorka, did I see the Gorka man?
	Yeah, stand up Gorka, quick, get up!
	How good is he, Sebastian?
	Seb, they call him Seb, I call him Sebastian.
	America First.
	That is the question.
	How good is he?
	Well, if you're listening, I think you know.
	Happy Friday!
	It's America First with me, Sebastian Gawker, former deputy to the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, who we need to bring back to the White House.
	It's up to us.
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	It's up to you guys.
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	I don't know how this happened.
	I was in Nashville, Monday before last, for a premiere.
	I think somebody dared them and just accidentally put my name in the group of invitees for the latest movie from that band of reprobate rogues.
	It is, of course, Matt Walsh's Am I Racist?
	And I feel really bad for Siaka Musaqua, who was next to me with his lovely wife, because I chortled through the whole two-hour movie.
	I was Gut laughing.
	It is that good.
	Even better than What Is A Woman.
	Go check it out.
	Watch it.
	It's in theaters.
	Am I racist?
	Am I racist?
	A man who has nothing to do with that is Michael Knowles.
	He just works with The Daily Wire as well.
	He was there.
	And he was giving out cigars like nobody's business.
	Like candy.
	Perhaps because he didn't want to keep them.
	Because he's not familiar with my cigars.
	I partook of this morning.
	The Dr. G, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt Liberty cigars.
	And I had one with K-Doge, yeah, with, no, T-Doge, with Titus this morning, and it was good.
	Mr. John Adams, who makes those cigars for me, wow.
	And yeah, he is related to the John Adams.
	Let's get back to work.
	I don't want to paint the devil on the wall, but after what I heard this morning from Katie, after Kamala's performance or not in the last two months, I'm feeling pretty good.
	How are you feeling, Mike?
	I'm feeling pretty good.
	Well, Seb, since you mentioned the cigars, I thought the only way I could possibly feel better is if I just lit up a nice, delicious Mayflower cigar right here in my studio.
	Though it doesn't have President Trump's face on it, which is one of the great advantages I have from your beautiful box of cigars in my humidor.
	When someone's really robust coming over for dinner, I say, When a man's man comes to dinner, you know, when the working class shows up at your home, you give him a Trump cigar.
	Okay.
	Although you did give me a very nice Mayflower cigar cutter at that event, which I managed to get on the plane.
	So TSA, up your game, guys, up your game.
	Not doing their job.
	I know, you know, Matt ran the premiere, but I ran the after party.
	So we had a lovely night smoking cigars.
	I agree with you.
	I was not sitting next to Siak. I was sitting next to Kirk Cameron, who I pitied because I was wheezing,
	especially during the final scenes of that movie. And, you know, the feeling of exuberance and
	jubilance kind of bleeds over into the presidential election because I feel a little bit of trepidation.
	I wonder what tricks the Democrats have up their sleeves.
	I want to make sure that we're very serious about ballot integrity, making sure that there's no funny business going on at the polls.
	But you played that clip earlier on your show about the Republicans just dominating at the ballot box in Virginia.
	You know, Democrats nowhere to be seen.
	That is the impression that I'm getting out there.
	It feels as though the Democrats have used every single trick they could.
	They've tried to imprison the man.
	Obviously, they justified what Well, let's listen to another clip from the wonderful Greg Gutfeld show where Tyrus thinks he knows who the big guy is voting for.
	is cutting interest rates, 50 basis points.
	What else is there?
	They've thrown the kitchen sink at this thing and Trump still seems to be quite sturdy in
	the polls.
	Well, let's listen to another clip from the wonderful Greg Gutfeld show where Tyrus thinks
	he knows who the big guy is voting for.
	Cut one.
	A lot of friends that wanted to run, they're thinking about maybe not doing it.
	But here's the only good thing is that it's always a consequential president that gets shot at.
	And fortunately so far I've been very lucky or something is greater than all of us.
	Something is up there, someone is up there maybe watching over us.
	I think he's voting for you.
	How good is that?
	I think God's voting for you.
	Look, Butler, Pennsylvania, then the golf course.
	I think we've got empirical evidence, Michael.
	You know, this actually is, joking aside, this is a very Christian view of politics, which is that You know, God controls history.
	We participate.
	You know, to your point, Seb, we have to go out, get out there and vote.
	We need to do our part here.
	But ultimately, you know, God is writing providence.
	And you don't want to be one who is constantly looking for signs and wonders.
	But as a priest friend of mine points out, a wicked generation seeks signs and wonders, but a stupid generation ignores signs and wonders.
	And there have been some marvelous coincidences that have happened in this race.
	And one just feels, forgetting even the terrible record of Biden-Harris, forgetting even the
	marvelous record of President Trump in office, just in the narrative of this campaign, one
	feels the story must end with this man winning.
	It's simply cannot be.
	As, who was it, Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin, said, the arc of justice is only fulfilled if that man returns to the White House.
	And I like the way he put that.
	And as the Hungarian saying goes, man may plan, God executes.
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	Hello.
	I'm going to be a little bit more serious.
	Hello?
	Gotta get the mics up.
	Mic's are up.
	Hey, Mike, the movie's doing well, right?
	Yeah, looks like it's going well.
	They're adding theaters.
	We're gonna see, you know, most movies drop off after the first weekend.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	I'm cautiously optimistic we're actually gonna maintain the momentum into number two.
	So we'll say, you know, we'll know in about 48 hours.
	Love it.
	All right.
	That was superb.
	Thank you for jumping in there.
	That was really amazing.
	That interview you did.
	Thank you, sir.
	I felt It was great.
	The only thing that could have made it better, if I lit that cigar.
	I know!
	If you'd actually lit it in your studio, I would have complained to my bosses at Salem and say, where is my cigar studio?
	That's what I want to know.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	OSHA might have come in and raided my workshop.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	Do you want the mics off?
	Mic's off, yeah.
	Yeah.
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	All right, this is an interview I've been wanting to do for a long time because of the recommendations of Katie Gorka, who met this gentleman and his muse, as Katie is mine, and then because of what he created, which was recently unveiled not far from this studio, which kind of Reinstills in one hope that art itself is salvageable.
	The man behind the new World War I sculpture in Washington, D.C., Sabin Howard.
	Welcome to the America First Show.
	Oh, it's my honor to be here.
	Thank you.
	So, everybody who's in D.C., whether you work here, whether you visit here, you need to go and see this.
	It's right across from the White House.
	Absolutely stunning tableau of troops of World War I, the horror, the reality.
	Will you tell us the story of this sculpture, how long you've been working on it, and what the genesis, what the seed of this work was?
	Yeah, it's an epic project.
	We started back in 2015.
	It was a global competition.
	We beat out 360 teams.
	And then I proceeded to do 25 iterations to arrive finally at A Soldier's Journey.
	It is the story of a father, a soldier, and an allegory for the United States that leaves home, his family, enters into battle, is transformed, And that transformation is an allegory for the transformation of the world, moving away from divine order, and the modern age enters.
	The final scenes, there's a parade scene, home, with the American flag hoisted.
	It's the change of our country from an agrarian nature to a superpower.
	And the final scene, he hands his daughter his helmet, and she is the next generation.
	She is World War II.
	Wow.
	There you have it.
	How much, if we take the competition out of it, and the design phase, I'm just curious because you're creating true beauty.
	How much actual work with your hands did it take to create that incredible sculpture?
	How long?
	That's a great question.
	Very good question.
	Four and a half years, each figure was sculpted.
	With life models, many of them veterans from all three branches, Navy SEALs, Marines, Rangers, that had actually experienced battle and PTSD.
	So you're looking at something that is not happening anymore in these times.
	I sculpt traditionally, I draw traditionally.
	My heroes are those people from Western civilization.
	And this piece is about The American cultural renaissance and proceeding forward against the anti-ascetic of modernism.
	So that's exactly the next question I wanted to ask, because your capability, your success in winning a competition and getting it installed in the heart of the nation's capital is a subversive act in and of itself.
	Because art reflects society and art, whether it's music, whether it's modern art, reflects a degenerate society today.
	We don't rehearse these questions even when President Trump comes on.
	I don't, you know, ask in advance.
	Nobody gets talking points.
	I'm going to ask you up front.
	How on God's green earth did you get this past the degenerate gatekeepers so now this is the reality in our nation's capital?
	Because I salute you, sir.
	Thank you.
	I am probably one of the most stubborn bastards you've had on your show.
	I had a vision and I was not going to budge an inch.
	And I fought.
	I fought through Centennial Commission not to change it.
	I fought through Commission of Fine Arts, a federally appointed panel of bureaucrats and academics that don't know anything about art.
	And then I fought for the budget and how long this piece should take to proceed on, you know, museum quality.
	And it's like, it's exactly what you're saying.
	This is an extremely subversive act, because what I'm doing is I'm making a monument that represents our country.
	Now, how can you do anything that's mediocre?
	I mean, it's like you fail as soon as you do mediocrity.
	And so I have looked towards the Italian Renaissance as that is my template.
	And from day one, when I began making art at age 19, 42 years ago, and after 80,000 hours of looking at life models, it wasn't like I was going to give up at this moment when I had a chance to, like, break through this ridiculous art narrative that's been, you know, been going on since Marcel Duchamp in the urinal after World War I. So it's like, it's my way that I've existed.
	And so I just ramped it up to another level.
	Alright, everybody needs to go to the website now, Sabin Howard, that's written S-A-B-I-N, Howard with an A, S-A-B-I-N, sabinhoward.com.
	Follow him on Twitter as well, at Sabin Howard Sculptor.
	We've got like 30 seconds left.
	I'd love to have you back for an hour long discussion on making the sculpture.
	This gives me hope.
	Do you have hope?
	Yeah, I do because I want to make art great again with a lot of other people.
	Art is who we are.
	Culture is what we are.
	And if you don't make art amazing, it's like, what is the point of life then?
	You've been given a gift.
	Use it to your utmost.
	Proceed.
	Go forward.
	That's my message.
	Proceed!
	I'm in sync with you.
	I like it.
	What did we get from Bobby Kennedy?
	Make America healthy again.
	Let's make art great again as we make America great again.
	I know you're on your way to a wedding.
	God bless you and your muse for stopping to talk to us.
	We'll get you back for a whole hour.
	If you're in DC, go see this incredible celebration of America right there next to the White House.
	Sabin Howard is the sculptor and it gives us hope we can save Western civilization if we celebrate.
	Beauty.
	Why?
	Because beauty is truth.
	It's that simple.
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	Bye!
	Oh, hang on.
	Mic's up.
	Yeah, reach out as soon as you want.
	Good.
	And you're based in New York, is that right?
	Connecticut.
	I'll come to you if you want even.
	Alright.
	Whatever you need.
	Love it.
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	Will do.
	Thank you.
	I'm gonna say.
	Bye bye.
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	There were communication deficiencies between law enforcement personnel at the site.
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	That vital piece of information was not relayed over the Secret Service radio network.
	So why are you still running the Secret Service, Ronald Roe Jr.?
	What's it been, Jeff?
	It's like, what, nine, ten weeks since Butler?
	Yeah, which is amazing.
	And then they have a press conference now?
	Yeah.
	And how much more do we know about the guy from last week than the guy from over two months ago?
	Well, that's a good point.
	We even know all the 19 donations he made to the Democrat Party.
	And what do we know about a 20-year-old kid who has no social media presence?
	We know nothing.
	How quickly did we get the photograph of this new guy's truck on Hawaii with the Kamala bumper sticker?
	That was all what, like 24 hours later?
	Within everything.
	We knew what he did, where he used to live, he was a roofer, North Carolina, everything.
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	Former President Donald Trump, meanwhile, makes a play for the Jewish vote, but the election could hinge on an entirely different issue.
	More on that in a moment.
	Welcome, everyone.
	I'm Edward Lawrence.
	In for Neil Cavuto, this is your World.
	We've got Fox News team coverage with Jonathan Seery in Atlanta,
	with the Harris campaign and Ayesha Hosni in Washington on the.
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	Okay, I'm out here at the Fairfax County Government Center and it is the first hour of early voting
	and the energy is absolutely amazing.
	It is so fun.
	We've got so much excitement, so much enthusiasm, so many voters.
	So come on out and vote!
	Yeah, so many voters and me has nobody to get my breakfast cooked for me.
	It's outrageous.
	She leaves the house early, doesn't come back till I've left for work.
	Who's gonna make me my PhD compliant bacon and eggs?
	Me?
	I have to cook my breakfast?
	It's all in the cause of saving the Republic.
	That's Katie Gawker, chairwoman of the Fairfax GOP, the biggest county in Virginia, 45 days early.
	It's insane, but you know what's cool?
	Like no Democrats.
	Just scores and scores of not just conservatives, but with massive American flags, with Trump flags.
	What's going on?
	Let's talk to the co-host of Katie's podcast, the one and only Jennifer Horne of the Happy Women podcast.
	Jennifer, who's gonna cook my breakfast when Katie's saving America?
	I think we're gonna have to get you some DoorDash, Dr. G. I think we may have to get you some Uber Eats or something like that, but you know what?
	We cannot be mad because she is out there doing God's work.
	I saw the video that she posted earlier today, and I can't believe you're already voting in Virginia.
	It is wild.
	It's nuts, but how about the fact, because this is the thing that just, and again, we fight like we're the third monkey getting on Noah's Ark for the next 44 days, but the fact is, We have this conventional wisdom that the Democrats are the organized ones.
	They're the ballot harvesters.
	They have the ground game.
	The fact that there were no Democrats, there's no energy, and that Trumpsters are having a party at 8am, 45 days early, I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode, Jen.
	Yeah, it was absolutely incredible to see all of those Trump flags and the yard signs and the people out there, you know, just holding up their American flags.
	I think that's so incredible.
	And you know, I did a speech last night in Pasadena and it was so good for my soul set because I sat and I looked at all of the RealClearPolitics polling and here's a piece of advice.
	If you're a Trump supporter, don't do that right now because it is not great.
	And it's because they're doing polls that are oversampling Democrats by about 12 to 13 percentage points.
	And so the polling doesn't look great for President Trump, but when you go to these
	meetings and you talk to people and you hear how people more than ever, you know, conservatives
	used to always be the one that say, oh, I can't get involved in this process because
	I've got to go to work.
	I've got to take my kids to school.
	I've got a family.
	I've got all of these things to take care of.
	Every single person I spoke to, they were writing down websites.
	They were getting ready to get involved.
	They had organized within their groups to do postcards and phone calls.
	There is a real effort here amongst conservatives that want to walk over broken glass to vote for President Trump.
	Yeah.
	And what's on the other side?
	We have Oprah Winfrey, that grassroots working class individual, host Kamala Harris.
	And I didn't even do this.
	My guy, John, is getting a little bit frisky with my social media account.
	He took a clip from that Unbelievable puff thing.
	And he played the next clip and he put it on my Instagram.
	I can't remember the last time it happened.
	This clip in, like, when was this posted?
	17 hours ago, has had 5,000 comments.
	Not likes, actual comments.
	Let's have a look at why John was such a success on my Instagram account.
	This is Kamala Harris being asked a question she's been asked several times before, and the answer hasn't got any better the first three times she was asked it.
	This is Cut Six, Kamala with Oprah.
	Cut Six.
	We really would love to know what your plan is to help lower the cost of living.
	Yeah.
	First of all, thank you both for being here.
	And yours is a story I hear around the country as I travel.
	In terms of both rightly having the right to have aspirations and dreams and ambitions for your family and working hard and finding that the American dream is, for this generation and so many recently, far more elusive than it's been.
	And we need to deal with that.
	Can you play it as B-roll, John, and pause it and freeze it exactly the first time we see Kamala's face by itself?
	Because I want people who are watching to see the expression.
	She's asked, what are you going to do about it?
	Look, that expression, Jen, she's been asked this since the debate, three times.
	And she's still, she says, What was that answer?
	Help me out!
	You know, it was, you listen to this and you realize that that event with Oprah last night was totally rehearsed.
	I mean, they may have had a live audience, but you know that everybody that was brought in knew what they were going to say.
	This is not a hard question.
	We're not asking her to recite pieces of the constitution, which by the way, it would be nice if she'd be able to do that.
	What this was, was a very simple question about lowering the cost of living for people.
	It's something she should be prepared to answer.
	Seb, on our program, we used the same audio.
	It took her 48 seconds before she even started saying one item.
	And then she says, well, we're going to lower the cost of things for people.
	Well, how?
	This is what people want to hear from you.
	They want to hear details.
	And she has none.
	I thought last night was such a disgrace for her.
	And I think you could see even Oprah thought that.
	I mean, Oprah is a smart person.
	And she was sitting there looking like she was stunned trying to keep Kamala on course.
	It was just a wild thing to see unfold.
	You said it was disgusting.
	Here's one of the most disgusting aspects of it.
	She's asked about the border, and this is what Kamala responds.
	Cut seven, play cut.
	The bill would have allowed us to have more resources to prosecute transnational criminal organizations.
	And it would have been part of the solution.
	And Donald Trump Called up those folks and said, don't put that bill on the floor for a vote.
	He blocked the bill.
	And you know why?
	Why?
	Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.
	And he has put his personal political security before border security.
	That's just despicable.
	Rachel Marin, Jocelyn Nungaray, Laken Riley, dead because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
	And she blames my former boss.
	Yeah, it is.
	Again, it is despicable.
	We heard this week from the former chief of the Border Patrol.
	You can say what you will about why he is only talking now, but he said he was instructed by the Biden and Harris administration to lie about the terrorists coming into this country.
	The only reason we have a problem at our border is because Biden and Harris created that problem.
	They had no intention of fixing it.
	They still have no intention of fixing that problem.
	And they can make up every excuse in the book.
	But the truth is, if you really want to investigate facts, The Republicans in the House of Representatives have already passed a border security bill that is sitting in the Senate waiting for a vote, but it has been shelved.
	So don't fall for this, this nonsense that President Trump doesn't want border security because he wants to keep the border open.
	He had it shut down.
	The proof is in the pudding from his last administration when the problems at the border stopped because of a real leader sitting in the Oval Office.
	So what's your expectation?
	What do we think is going to happen in the next 47 days?
	Is she going to run and hide?
	More puff piece interviews?
	What kind of campaign?
	Because the president's unstoppable.
	He's just going to keep on campaigning, campaigning, campaigning.
	He and J.D.
	Vance, since he chose J.D.
	Vance, have given 45 press interviews since only that point in time.
	So he's going to do what he does.
	What are they going to do?
	Did you see how tired she looked?
	She did a speech where she was wearing the light blue suit this week and she looked exhausted and I think she's having trouble keeping up with this schedule and this pace because you know for four years she did absolutely nothing.
	She was lollygagging and she had her feet up and now she's out there actually having to work.
	She looks exhausted but I think we can expect what we've seen and that is the Democrats and the mainstream news media are going to try to carry her over the finish line.
	And it's concerning because this is going to be a close election.
	And so it is really up to us. President Trump has taken a bullet.
	He has taken personal, I mean, the personal hits he has taken
	with his business, his life, his family, all under scrutiny.
	It is up to us. It's not enough to just vote anymore.
	You say it all the time, and I mean it.
	45 days until Election Day.
	You have to do more than just vote in this election.
	You've got to make phone calls.
	You've got to walk to your neighbors.
	You've got to talk to people.
	At the very least, put up yard signs and wear your Trump hat, because we have got to make it okay to support President Trump, to get him back in the White House.
	He's the only chance we have at saving the country.
	I think we should send her one of our Trump hats.
	I think that's a good idea, especially to reward her for using the word lollygagging.
	I haven't heard that in a while.
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	Oh yeah. See ya. Bye. Bye.
	Alright, car 15 at the top here.
	I'm going to go get it.
	Copy that.
	I'm not Bob right now.
	Learn as you go.
	Learn as you go.
	Do you want the mics off?
	No, you can have the mics on.
	Oh, we need to do the reads.
	You ready?
	Ready?
	Yes, sir.
	This is Sebastian Golka.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be your guide.
	you to be continued...
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	What is going on in Ohio?
	What's going on in Springfield?
	And what is the relevance to November the 5th?
	Let's ask our friend who often steps in the breach for me so kindly.
	He is a radio legend, Bob France.
	Welcome back to America First!
	Oh, it's good to be here, Dr. G. I love Second Amendment Friday.
	Whenever you're out on a Friday, I love to sit in so we can talk about Second Amendment issues.
	And I know we're talking about Springfield, but aren't you glad that Kamala, you know, confirmed when she talked to Oprah that she is pro-Second Amendment, as she talks about taking away your assault rifles, whatever those are, as she talks about coming into your home, barging in to make sure that your weapons are secured in a proper fashion.
	Red flag laws and so on.
	Don't you just feel wonderful about the Second Amendment if it's in her hands?
	Well, it's really weird because, you know, I would shoot anyone who threatens my life or the life of my loved ones or my friends.
	But if I mentioned that in an interview, I wouldn't laugh about it like she just did.
	So let's have a listen to that.
	Thank you for reminding me.
	This is the woman who wishes to be president.
	Cut five.
	Kamala with Oprah.
	I'm a gun owner.
	Tim Morris is a gun owner.
	I did not know that!
	If somebody breaks in my house, they're getting shot.
	Yes, yes.
	I hear that.
	I hear that.
	Probably should not have said that.
	My staff will deal with that later.
	A, what's with the faux ghetto accent, and then giggling and giggling, I shouldn't have said that, and then my staff will deal with that.
	Is that, you know, the same way that the staff dealt with the bag of cocaine in the White House, Bob?
	Well, I think everything that she says that she doesn't understand, which is most of the things that she says, she trusts the staff to clean up later.
	You know, it's just like the, you know, the last segment that you just had talking about, you know, well, what is your plan to lower the cost of living?
	You know, 35-second word salad, no plan whatsoever, except for a quote at the end of it.
	We'll have to deal with that.
	Well, what does that mean?
	My staff will figure it out later.
	Literally, it is all that she offers.
	Dr. G, it is so painful listening to her.
	But she laughed during that because she has to.
	It's the same thing with what happened before the debate.
	She has to let her base know, I'm really not changing, I swear.
	So when I say that, you come through my door, you're getting shot, it's an appeal to the Second Amendment conservatives or moderates in the country.
	But I want you to know, as my radical left wing marks his face, I hate guns and I'm going to take them away from everybody.
	So it's, I'll say what I have to say to get one side, but I'll chuckle about it to make sure I don't lose the other side.
	That's what she's doing here, trying to play both sides of the aisle.
	So, what does it mean?
	Because, you know, all right, let's go to the debate.
	Let's talk about the cats and dogs.
	You recommended a great journalist to us who we discussed things with yesterday.
	I have a theory, and you with your France rants and everything you do with Strictly Speaking on AM 1420, you keep the people of the state sane.
	You keep the people of the state sane.
	Here's my theory.
	With that one comment, they're eating the cats and dogs.
	President Trump has focused everyone's attention to Springfield.
	And irrespective of whether or not, you know, Garfield's getting barbecued, we now know that a city of 60,000 people has had 20,000 illegals dumped on them by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
	Isn't that the buried lead, as journalists say?
	Well, there's two buried leads here, Dr. G, and you're right, by the way.
	What President Trump did by making that line is he shone a bright spotlight on Springfield and what's happening there, and also in other small towns in the Midwest, and I'll get to that in a second.
	J.D.
	Vance is doing the same thing, and he told Dana Bash, look, if we have to say these things to create stories, And they jumped on him and said, oh, you're admitting you're creating a story or fabricating a story?
	No.
	He said, this is really a problem, but none of you are doing stories on it.
	So if we talk about it, you're going to do stories on it on the media and the world is going to know and the country is going to know what Harris and Biden's policies have done to small town America.
	And in this case, small-town Ohio in Springfield.
	So there's two leads there.
	One is what it's done to the people there, and two, corruption of the highest order.
	There are reports, Dr. G, and I've got some of this in front of me, the Ohio Register reporting on this.
	There is a massive legal coyote operation that is being reported on here.
	A guy who is running an organization called First Diversity Staffing by the name of George
	Ten is alleged to be facilitating illegal border crossings for a set fee of around 15
	grand to get a criminal rapist or a murderer or somebody into the country.
	But moreover, the grift is in after the person crosses the border, because there are so many
	ways to skim off the top.
	And he's taken things that they're making from their wages to transportation to the
	temporary jobs they have, the housing, taking massive amounts of money from these people.
	So there's it's a it's a corrupt moneymaking organization that is operating in Springfield
	and in other towns across the Midwest.
	They're just scratching the surface of this, and none of it would be known.
	Nobody would be paying attention if Donald Trump hadn't said, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the dogs.
	The hell with the dog story.
	The story here is corruption, and the story here is what it's doing to small-town Americans by, you know, Kamala's open border policies.
	And when you look at the footage, if you spend just 30 seconds looking for the footage for the town hall meetings from Springfield, it's outrageous, Bob.
	The people in charge don't give a flying hoot for the concerns of the residents who are saying, it's got to stop.
	It's shocking.
	Well, what David Muir did during that debate when he dressed down Donald Trump to say, you know, ABC News checked in with the city leadership there and they say none of these things are true.
	The city leadership there has something to cover up because the mayor is alleged to be an owner of some of the properties that he's making big-time money off housing these Haitians.
	So it's a huge problem and what you just said is right.
	It's not the city leaders we need to be listening to.
	J.D.
	Vance and Donald Trump are listening to the city residents.
	J.D.
	Vance is the senator of this state.
	These are his constituents.
	So, yeah, I'm going to pay attention to what my residents are saying at city council meetings and what they're saying to me in the letters they're writing to me.
	That's the job of a president and a vice president.
	They are not even in office, and yet they are more responsible to the needs of small-town Americans than the people in office are right now.
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	We'll be back with Bob in a moment.
	Right, but don't you have a personal one?
	No, I switched the name of my personal one to that because my branding was all over the place.
	I had like different names on every social, different name for the radio show, different name for the podcast.
	It was a big mess, so I changed everything over to strictly speaking with Bob France.
	YouTube, Twitter, Rumble, Facebook, everything was Strictly Speaking.
	And I had to make Twitter Strict Speaking because of character count.
	Strictly Speaking was one too many letters, one too many characters, it wouldn't fit,
	so I had to abbreviate.
	Got it.
	John, let's add that.
	Perfect.
	Add Strict Speaking.
	Great.
	I don't remember giving you permission to do that and confuse me, Bob.
	My apologies, Dr. G.
	I did talk to you.
	I think I'm gaslighting myself while we're on air.
	I'm saying, I knew Bob had a Twitter account and there's no Bob.
	He wouldn't have deleted Bob France and France France.
	What's going on?
	Yeah, I did.
	You gaslit me.
	Yeah, I apologize.
	You know what you do at the end of your segments there, where you just said, hey, you know, look for me, you know, America first, Sebastian Gorka on all of these different places.
	It's kind of a nod to you.
	It's a way of saying, just look for me at the same name, strictly speaking, with Bob France on all of the different platforms.
	So that's kind of why I did it.
	All right.
	So we did five.
	We did six.
	We did seven.
	Play me count nine with you, John.
	So I would encourage your viewers to remember that if you hear anything about delayed election results in Pennsylvania, it's not a delay at all.
	It's simply how long it takes to count millions of votes.
	And so, just to be clear, it could take several days to count all of the ballots in Pennsylvania.
	Again, just to be clear.
	And as you say, to prepare voters for that possibility.
	Well, like every election, whether it's a presidential or not, it all comes down to how close an election is before you all call who won and who lost.
	And there's a consensus around that.
	It always takes many days.
	It has always taken many days.
	You know, for me and for us, I think it's fair to say we are so grateful that at this stage of our life, We have our grandchildren.
	We have our time together.
	You know, I write about how we start the morning playing Spelling Bee in bed.
	And, you know, Bill is like such a great player.
	He gets to Queen Bee almost immediately, it feels like.
	Wow.
	I wonder if he played Spelling Bee with Monica.
	I think he has a very different kind of game he played with her.
	I'm gonna cut 16.
	I'll tee it up, John.
	What was the other thing?
	Probably cut 12.
	Yeah, I'll tee up 16 and 12 and then we'll do Kara again at the top.
	Copy that.
	All right, what topics have we not covered?
	We did Oprah, Voding, Roe, and the Patriots.
	Okay, good.
	All right, 20 seconds.
	Shots were not added to this video due to copyright issues.
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	Magnificent.
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	The real follow-up question would have been for Kamala.
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	We're back with the man who just goes by Strictly Speaking now.
	That is Nom de Guerre.
	It is his brand.
	You can follow him at Strict Speaking on Twitter.
	A-M-14-12 the answer, my good friend.
	And Many-time guest host here on America First.
	Bob Franz, I'm sure you saw this earlier today.
	You've got to put it up, guys, because he's such a decrepit old man.
	You can't hear his voice.
	I can't believe I'm saying this.
	This is the first Biden cabinet meeting in 11 months which lasts for 22 seconds before the incumbent hands it over to his wife to run the cabinet meeting.
	You don't believe me?
	I get it.
	Play it.
	This happened today.
	Cut 16.
	It's the first time Jill has joined us and goes to show how important the issue is, which she's about to speak to the both of us.
	Today, at the top of our meeting, Jill's going to give an update on a House initiative, White House initiative to fundamentally change the approach and fund, how we approach and fund women's health services.
	So, I'd like to turn it over to Jill and for any comments she has.
	It's all yours, kid.
	Thank you.
	You know, sometimes the White House surprises you.
	When Joe became president, I knew I wanted to keep shining a light on the issues that I'd worked on for so many years.
	I need a bucket to vomit in.
	A, the president is openly handing over the government to his unelected wife.
	And then, who needs a script?
	Who needs a folder in front of her to say, and this is one of the most important things in my life?
	If it is, you don't need a script, Bob.
	It's all fake.
	Every last part of it.
	Well, you know, the most Irritating thing to me about this, Dr. G, isn't just that Joe Biden is so, you know, decrepit as you described him and incompetent and cognitively unable to keep up anymore that he has to pass this off to his wife.
	It's the fact that the current Democrat nominee for president lied to us about all of that, not just for the last month or two months since they booted him.
	She lied to us for the last three years.
	I mean, there's a reason—we all know this—that he stayed in the quote-unquote basement during the entirety of the 2020 campaign.
	And over the course of the last year and a half, as things have gotten closer and closer to revving up for reelection time, you know, he is absolutely lost.
	And all of America can see it.
	He cannot think.
	He cannot speak.
	It finally came to a head in the debate, and even after the debate, Dr. G, Kamala Harris told Americans that this guy's at the top of his game, doing cartwheels in the White House.
	I mean, he's phenomenal.
	We can't keep up with him.
	What are you guys talking about?
	What did you see?
	That is more agitating to me than even him, you know, bringing the wife to a cabinet meeting.
	I asked our Salem colleague Jennifer Horne the same question I'm going to ask you now.
	What do you expect?
	Because she can't even perform in a scripted Oprah Puff piece non-interview.
	Is it just going to be hiding in the basement?
	What is the next 47 days hold for her?
	Well, I talked about this on my show this morning.
	It's been over 60 days since she became the de facto nominee, obviously.
	And that's, of course, when they announced that Joe Biden was going to be booted out of this thing, and they shivved him.
	And she has not done one single press conference yet.
	She went to the NABJ, the National Association of Black Journalists, and was asked, what does it feel like to run a campaign of joy?
	I mean, no, no.
	She did the ridiculous ABC guy.
	And those are softball questions.
	Dr. G, I think she can run the gamut.
	I think she can go for another 46 days not having one single serious press conference.
	And that's a staggering thing to think that we can elect a president who has never even sat down for one critical question from a Peter Doocy.
	Somebody in the press corps that would actually press her So when she does the Oprah thing, when she was asked by the couple, what is your plan to lower the cost of living?
	And then she danced and said nothing.
	Somebody needs to follow up and say, I'm sorry, what was that plan again?
	She will not subject herself to that because she simply cannot think of an answer on her feet.
	Right, right.
	But you don't need to answer things because this is all about joy and being a brat.
	Follow him now under his new Unitary brand.
	It is Strictly Speaking on Twitter because they have some kind of letter maximum number.
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	That guy was really good.
	Thank you for the connection.
	Oh, good.
	I'm glad that worked out well for ya.
	Yeah, he was very happy.
	He called me after, so I'm glad it worked out.
	Yeah, he's a pro.
	Anytime.
	He's a pro.
	Yes, he is.
	Yes, he is.
	Nobody's really doing that kind of investigation in Ohio, so anybody that is, I'm gonna give some time to, so.
	Alright, have a great weekend.
	Thanks, Bob.
	You too.
	Take care.
	But...
	I'm dialing up the last guest.
	I know.
	You've got his gun collective stuff.
	Let me show you what I have for Laura 3rd.
	Hi, can you hear me?
	Yes!
	You can put the mics on, he'll behave.
	Look at that studio!
	He's gone, whoa!
	Upscale, dude!
	Look at that mood lighting!
	He's got mood lighting!
	It's like the VIP rope section of the nightclub.
	Look at that.
	That's not a studio.
	How you doing?
	How you doing, buddy?
	I'm good, man.
	How are you?
	Good.
	It's been too long.
	Yeah.
	I'm sending you one image you can use to when I talk about his YouTube channel.
	And then that's what I have, just the GunCollective.com and GunCollective.
	Yeah, that's perfect.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But I've sent you an image for his YouTube channel when I mentioned it.
	All right, so let's look at that really interesting text you sent me with lots of great topics.
	What's your latest acquisition you're testing right now?
	I just bought a, uh, FosTech Origin 12.
	Dude!
	I bought one secondhand and the bastard doesn't cycle!
	I'm pissed!
	That's a problem.
	I'm, because, you know, a Saiga?
	Okay, I'll have somebody tune it up.
	But when you buy a FosTech, the thing should stinking work.
	I don't disagree.
	Uh, did you call them yet?
	No, not yet.
	I'm going to try a few different loads, but it's just not, it's not cycling.
	Perfect.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	Some, some of their older stuff had issues.
	They, they told me the new stuff.
	They, they supposedly fixed it, but I love the design.
	I remember when it first came out, what was it like five, six years ago?
	Um, it's cool.
	It's cool.
	But I was actually, At the first unveiling of that gun and it was in like 2013.
	That gun is old.
	Wow.
	Alright, standby. Yep.
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	I'm just going to upgrade it to their new Mini Double Stack.
	I'm so excited.
	But they also own the iconic Desert Eagle line of fun guns.
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	The venerable Tommy Gunn and the legendary 1911.
	I think he has a thing for desert eagles.
	It's been far too long.
	A man who has avoided coming on the show far too often with the excuse, I'm at the range.
	I thought he was just ghosting me.
	But since he's actually come on today, I'm even more pissed because that means he actually is on the range every Friday when I should be as well.
	John Paddon of the Gunn Collective!
	It's been so long!
	Hi!
	Hey!
	It's good to be back.
	You did shoot far too much, you know that, right?
	I mean, that's not really a bad thing, right?
	Well, it is when I need you to be on my show.
	Oh, well, that's fair.
	I'll have to... I'll slap myself on the wrist for that.
	You don't need to, you don't need to.
	Alright, so before we get to the amazing, you know, topics you gave me because we were going back and forth this morning or last night, you do have a hankering for the Hebrew hammer, do you not?
	The Desert Eagle.
	I absolutely... It's far and away one of my favorite guns.
	It is absolutely ridiculous to shoot.
	It's super heavy, big, loud, silly, and I love it.
	But it's... I don't have a .50 yet.
	I've got a couple of .44s.
	I've got a compensated .44, a regular...
	I know, but wait till I tell you.
	Wait till I tell you.
	I might have to give a little sneak here.
	I hope Justin's not listening.
	I've got a regular OG 44, I've got a polished nickel 44, and then I've got a 41 Magnum.
	Do you know how long it took me to find the 41 Magnum Desert Eagle, dude?
	Ages.
	Ages.
	I mean they only made that for a few years and I believe the 41 Magnum was only when they were making them in Israel.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	It took me about three years to find one and I've got one and it's in my safe.
	But I may be getting a 50 Cal because I cannot confirm or deny and maybe offline we'll discuss later.
	We may or may not be launching before the election the Trump Maga Magnum 50 Cal Desert Eagle.
	We may or may not, John.
	I cannot confirm or deny.
	And it may or may not be my idea that I took to Car Firearms to make a MAGA Magnum.
	Isn't that a beautiful combination?
	It works.
	It just works.
	And if you're a big-time Trump guy, like, it's worth considering.
	It's worth considering, seriously.
	I think they need to make a .47 caliber just to drive that point.
	Well, neck down the .50 to a unique .47, because those bottlenecks are really work.
	Don't give me ideas.
	We're too busy building the first one.
	All right, the YouTube channel, you've got the image of it with a very ugly folding Kel-Tec gun.
	Is it cool yet?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Follow him right now on The Gun Collective on YouTube.
	But let's talk about, because, you know, you really... What is your tagline?
	News from the gun industry you actually want to hear or something.
	I mean, and you do.
	You have this data dumper stuff, and it's really interesting.
	Nobody else has it, and I love it.
	So here's two things that you suggested and I think are so cool.
	The market, despite the Democrats being in power, we have more choices for everyday carry handguns than I think empirically we've ever had.
	And then, how much can you get an AR for now?
	Like $499 or something?
	How much is an AR-15, John?
	Wait till Black Friday, there'll be sub $400 all day.
	Wow!
	You know, it's incredible.
	We've come a very long way In terms of like decent, cheap ARs, because it used to be that they were all junk.
	Yeah.
	At that price point.
	And now you can go put together something relatively usable.
	You know, it's obviously it's not going to perform as well as the $3,000 gun, but it's going to run at $400 and it'll do the trick.
	And when you look at everyday carry, everybody has a sub sub compact.
	They work.
	I remember the days when, you know, well, you'd say not 380, maybe 9mm is marginal, but not anymore with the modern ammunition.
	And everybody's got... I'm super excited.
	It's not just the Glock 43s and the Sigs 365s.
	CAR now has a double stack subcompact Tiny Nine.
	It's almost hard to choose, isn't it, John?
	We are spoiled for choice.
	That is absolutely true.
	We are very spoiled for choice.
	Smith & Wesson just came out with a new tiny 380 as a replacement of Bodyguard.
	The old Bodyguard I absolutely hated and now the new one is amazing.
	The difference here is I have the old Bodyguard.
	It was like super thin single stack and now they've done a double stack 380, correct?
	Correct, yeah, and it's actually pretty good.
	It's got a decent trigger, very small, fits well in the pocket.
	It's shocking, honestly.
	Alright, so what is, if you had your druthers, since you've got bargain basement, reliable ARs, we've got more concealed carry choices than we can shake a stick at, what is the next thing the industry has to get serious about?
	Is it some kind of technological thing?
	Is it making sure that all of us can have MP7s like the one that Tommy Bostic just sent me?
	What is the thing that has to be solved?
	I think we, as an industry, need to get better with the mid-range.
	You know, we've done very well at the bargain basement, at the affordable, the budget.
	We've done a very good job getting there.
	And we've done very good at expanding the top end.
	But the middle range is kind of lacking.
	Everything just kind of falls flat.
	It's just boring.
	And I think the industry could do well with some interesting new cartridges, maybe something just fun to shoot.
	I think we've kind of gotten away from that in certain ways.
	You know, everybody's very, very purpose driven.
	And I would love to see some more just really cool designs come out at affordable prices.
	And more 10 mils.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You know, somebody asked what caliber the new Ruger PCC should be chambered in, because I covered the 10 mil variant the other day.
	And I said, I want to see it in 50 AE.
	I want to see all the, like a gun, you know, PCC in 50 action press would be amazing.
	Be amazing.
	All right.
	I'm going to have to talk to the guys at CAR.
	That's bloody genius.
	We've got 10 seconds left.
	What's your carry gun right now?
	HK VP9.
	VP9.
	A classic.
	Not too trendy.
	Not for long.
	Oh, well, we'll have to get you back to discuss that.
	In the meantime, theguncollective.com on YouTube.
	Follow him.
	You will not regret it.
	And on Twitter.
	He has to up his Twitter game.
	We'll give him a little bit of a hand.
	The Gun Collective.
	He's Jon Patton.
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	Yeah, it just came out, like, this week.
	What, does it use Glock mags?
	Model 20s?
	Uh, yes.
	Yeah, they're using SGM-branded magazines, but yeah, it's the LC carbine, the one that feeds through the grip.
	That's genius.
	That's bloody... It's pretty neat.
	Yeah.
	Um, I love your studio, dude.
	Thanks, man.
	Thanks.
	Took a long time to get it all set up.
	And all those lights are all changeable.
	You can do whatever the hell you need to.
	Wow.
	Everything's good?
	There's a lot more that you can't see.
	Business is good?
	Everything's good?
	Yeah, man.
	It's great.
	It's great.
	Thank you for asking.
	All right.
	We need to catch up properly.
	Yes.
	I don't know when, but let's do it before Christmas.
	When's your next big event?
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	I'm going to Indiana next week for an RV thing, trying to grow that side of the business.
	So once the van's done, I'll be able to travel a lot more.
	All right.
	Stay safe, brother.
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	Hey, whose idea was it to put him on the screen?
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	Are you going to fix the border?
	Are you going to help people thrive in our economy?
	Are you going to clean up the foreign policy mess of her boss, Joe Biden, which she was sitting shotgun for the entire time?
	Are you going to be able to negotiate with Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping?
	Or are you going to give us word salad and phraseology and try to be a Hollywood starlet as opposed to a serious leader that our country needs?
	He's got a way with words.
	No word salads with Byron Donalds.
	God willing, if we do our part and President Trump wins, he has to have some cabinet position.
	He would be epic.
	Maybe he could be like United Nations ambassador and just...
	Push the whole building into the Hudson River.
	Yeah, she's not serious.
	She wants to be a Hollywood starlet.
	All right, I played this in the break for our buddy Michael Knowles, and he hadn't seen it.
	I thought he had.
	If you wonder the stakes and how insane they are, this is a person who's saying what they're saying publicly.
	Her name is Dr. Lindsey Doe.
	And, um, I guess she likes pedophiles.
	Cut 12.
	It's short for virtuous pedophiles.
	Not virtuous as in they're better than everyone because they're attracted to children, but virtuous like having moral standards and a sexual orientation that they have no control over, like the rest of us.
	Before you get all worked up, I'm talking about pedophilia.
	Not child molestation or rape.
	Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children.
	It's a paraphilia.
	There's a link to more information about it in the description.
	Videos I've made in the past explaining the kind of human diversity and development.
	Molestation and rape are different.
	These are abusive actions that often have nothing to do with attraction.
	Many child abusers are actually sexually attracted to adults, but they act out on children.
	Meaning you probably don't object to pedophiles because you're compassionate and rational, but you may loathe child molesters and rapists because they violate people.
	I personally try not to judge either.
	Well, I do judge them.
	And every single one of them should get the death penalty.
	They deny there's a cultural war.
	They want you to believe that there isn't a cultural war.
	Oh, but there is.
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	They want to reward the perverse.
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	Impressive.
	Most impressive.
	See you then, you people wouldn't believe me. I want to talk to God. I want to talk to God.
	See you then, you people wouldn't believe me.
	I want to talk to God.
	Oh Let's go see him again.
	Bravo, Hunter.
	Sir?
	You're new to shut up and enjoy the view.
	Most eggheads want to talk it away.
	You've stuck this one up a couple of points.
	Thanks.
	Allow me to give you a tiny bit of advice.
	If you want your own boat someday, the very worst thing you can do is worry about yourself or try to impress me.
	I can't stand save-asses and I won't abide kiss-asses.
	You keep your priorities straight, your mission and your men.
	How do you like that cigar?
	It's good, sir.
	It's your first.
	Yeah.
	Don't like it too much.
	They're more expensive than drugs.
	Not always, but sometimes they can be, as a man who partakes of a cigar now and again.
	We'll talk about my brand of cigars a little bit later in the segment, but a man who needs to get to know cigars much better than he already does is our co-host here on Making Movies Great Again as we celebrate one of my all-time favorites, Crimson Tide.
	Chris Coles, did you enjoy this movie?
	I very much enjoyed this movie and I have to say that scene reminds me a little bit of when I was at your place smoking cigars.
	That's what I was thinking!
	Watching some TV shows, messing around with some guns, drinking some scotch, and my brother had a cigar.
	And we had to teach him how to smoke a cigar.
	Yeah, yeah, and you may have had to clean off some shower curtains by the end of the night.
	Oh, I forgot about that!
	I've deleted that!
	Oh my gosh, yes, he did pebble dash the inside of the toilet in my little man cave, but let's not talk about that.
	All right, so, Crimson Tide, it is the joining again of the great Jerry Bruckheimer and Tony Scott Ridley's late brother.
	1995, the story of a Well, a little mutiny on a nuclear submarine.
	Chris, as I was thinking, because sometimes, and I get this from the reaction that you give me, I pick movies I love that may have been forgotten or haven't got the renommé, the reputation that they deserve.
	And as such, because we don't usually do this, when we review Beverly Hills Cop or Ghostbusters, we don't need to do that.
	But sometimes, do we need to summarize the plot of a movie that some may not be familiar with?
	You know what?
	I think that you potentially could do this.
	It's a fairly simple plot, so I don't think it'll take too long, because I don't actually think the story is the most important part of this film.
	But please, go ahead and fill the audience in on exactly what happened here.
	All right, so a lot of this is taken from the real world.
	The footage at the beginning is documentary newsreel from the actual, you know, collapse of the Soviet Union, the firing on the parliament, Yeltsin and everything else.
	So Crimson Tide takes place in a world where The Russian Federation is unstable.
	Some nationalists have a group of military units they take control of, a divisional-sized group of military assets.
	Also some nuclear submarines.
	And the question is, are the crazy Russkies going to start World War III?
	And what is the American response?
	And as such, we have Gene Hackman, ...is the captain, Captain Ramsey, of a US nuclear submarine, ballistically capable nuclear submarine, whose XO, his deputy, gets appendicitis.
	And let's start here with the man who is detailed to replace Captain Ramsey's deputy.
	I talked to your former CO.
	He tells me he tried to adopt you.
	As you no doubt heard, My XO has appendicitis.
	He's the best I ever had.
	I need a good man to fill his spot.
	Your name was at the top of the list.
	Well, that's good to know, sir.
	It was a short list.
	I'm sorry, Chris.
	That delivery of, uh, you come highly recommended.
	You're at the top of the list.
	Thank you, sir.
	It was a short list.
	That's like a comedy beat, isn't it?
	Yeah, you know, we couldn't speak highly enough of Gene Hackman in the previous two films that we've reviewed that he's in.
	Right.
	The man is essentially flawless.
	I mean, he can deliver any line.
	He's one of these actors who, you know, sometimes they say, like, you could read the phone book.
	And it'll still be entertaining.
	You know, there's a few people in the world like that.
	I may or may not be co-hosting a show with one right now.
	But Gene Hackman has this ability that any line, no matter how sort of uninteresting the actual dialogue is, Gene Hackman brings it a kind of life that makes it interesting.
	And everything about this film is kind of like that because they paired him up with I would actually submit one of the most charismatic actors of all time.
	And so you've got these two juggernauts and how better to cast this film because the concept really is that you've got these two Main characters, you know, Denzel Washington and Jean Jean Hackman's character.
	And they're going at it.
	And you've got to figure out who wins at the end.
	It's sort of like a chess match.
	And it's made and it could be boring.
	I mean, a chess match can be boring.
	And not only that, it's like almost a one room theater play, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, very good point.
	Very good point.
	Yeah.
	And so I think that you had to Work to make this script work.
	You had to have both of these actors just absolutely phenomenal.
	And they got two of the best actors, maybe of all time, to play these two characters.
	But then you had to have some phenomenal production value.
	And that's just what you get with this Tony Scott, Bruckheimer vibe.
	You know, you got the Tony Scott, Bruckheimer thing here in spades.
	It feels like... It's Top Gun underwater, right?
	It's top gun underwater.
	They're using film as opposed to digital, which we use now.
	And they're using that sort of smoky room thing all the time.
	And it just has a vibe and it just looks exactly like you want it to look from a film from this period.
	And it's interesting, you said the story isn't really important.
	We stopped explaining the story, so let's just give you the context.
	The renegade Ruskies are threatening potential nuclear war.
	They launch the Saab, and the Saab gets a command through the secure National Command Authority to prepare weapons and to fire a nuclear strike against this russian renegade military force and then what happens oh the communications are broken with the sub another message is transmitted but
	They can't verify whether it's a real message or what the content of the message is.
	So the captain says, well, we got our orders in hand.
	We're going to launch a nuclear attack.
	And Denzel, who as the XO, as the deputy, has to concur for any nuclear weapons launch, says, no, sir.
	Another message has been broadcast.
	And we need to repair our communications and find out whether we have been stood down.
	And thus the drama begins between Denzel Washington as the ex-Sergeant Lieutenant Commander Hunter and Captain Ramsey, played by the superb Gene Hackman.
	We don't want to spoil too much of it, but the story's not important.
	The drama, the conflict, and also the context.
	I love the military context.
	They get it right.
	When you're googling, what is 1MC, 2SQ, just to find out what they're shouting through the comms for two hours.
	And then, of course, the ethos.
	Before they go underwater for 65 days.
	Yes, a nuclear sub can do that.
	Well, there's a little speech from the captain in the rain next to the dock for the sub before they begin the mission.
	Did you call?
	Yes, sir!
	You're wearing the name of the ship, aren't you, Mr. Cobb?
	Very aware, sir.
	It bears a proud name, doesn't it, Mr. Cobb?
	Very proud, sir.
	It represents fine people.
	Very fine people, sir.
	We live in a fine, outstanding state.
	Outstanding, sir.
	It's the greatest country in the entire world.
	In the entire world, sir.
	And what does that say, Mr. Cobb?
	Alabama, sir.
	And what do we say?
	Go Alabama!
	Go Alabama!
	Team in the boat!
	Dismiss the crew!
	Dismiss the crew!
	Aye, aye, sir!
	Crew!
	Department heads, attend to your departments!
	Follow!
	Go Bama!
	We are celebrating 1995.
	It is the Crimson Tide Thriller with our buddy Chris Coles.
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	All right, come in with Silver Surfer.
	Why were you two fighting?
	Well, I said that the Kirby Silver Surfer was the only real Silver Surfer.
	And Benefield's a big Mobius fan.
	Things got out of hand.
	I pushed him, he pushed me.
	I lost my head, sir.
	I'm sorry.
	Rivetti, you're a supervisor.
	You can get a commission like that.
	I know it, sir.
	You're 100% right.
	It's never happened again, all right?
	It better not happen again.
	I see this kind of nonsense, I'm gonna write you up.
	You understand?
	Do you understand?
	Yes, sir.
	You have to set an example, even in the face of stupidity.
	Now, everybody that reads comic books knows that Kirby Silver Surfer is the only true Silver Surfer.
	Now, am I right or wrong?
	You're right, sir.
	All right.
	Get out of here.
	Yes, sir.
	Now that's why Denzel is just, as you said, so incredibly charismatic, and that's good writing.
	He's chastising that member of the crew for getting in a fistfight over...
	Comics and which silver surfer was the better one and of course it is Kirby Jack Kirby's silver surfer is the better one and then afterwards He says well, yeah, you're right dismisses him.
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	I love the writing throughout.
	Allegedly, I can't believe I'm giving him credit, Quentin Tarantino was involved in some of the script clean-up on this movie.
	Explain your fascinating comment, and I think you're actually on the money, that the big story and the big context of the war, or the potential nuclear war, doesn't really matter.
	It's a far more human story.
	Explain that, Chris.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I should clarify, I wouldn't say that the story doesn't matter at all.
	I mean, throughout the film, there is tension, you can feel the tension with all of the actors, even like the background actors, like everybody is so on in this movie, they're so perfect, on point, you do feel like they're in a very difficult situation.
	But the story itself, really is what you would call an ethical dilemma.
	And ethical dilemmas, I've always believed that ethical dilemmas make some of the best stories that you can possibly put to film, right?
	An ethical dilemma is a situation in which there's no really clear right answer.
	You have to think through what is the most ethical thing to do in this moment, despite the fact that, you know, in any case, you're going to lose.
	Or in any case, you know, maybe you'll win, but there is going to be a great sacrifice.
	And so in this particular case, you know, at the end of the film, they talk about it.
	There's a, I guess you'd call it a tribunal, I'm not really sure, sort of a hearing.
	And they, you know, the judges, I guess, or those who are listening to this case or, you know, exploring what happened in this whole circumstance, they say, look, you were both right, you were both wrong.
	And I think that was actually correct.
	You could maybe interpret this film as sort of the inklings of toxic masculinity versus the educated scholar.
	Of course, in the 90s, I think people were very optimistic about the educated, you know, the academic type being right.
	However, we've seen how that's panned out over the last You know, 25, 30 years, not maybe so well.
	But I'd like to think of this film more in terms of, do you do things by the book, or do you go rogue?
	And in this case, it turned out that Denzel was right, and doing things by the book was the right solution.
	But in so many other films, and I think so many other times in life, Going rogue is the solution.
	And, you know, it's not always right, though.
	You know, sometimes one is right and sometimes the other is right.
	And exploring that ethical dilemma was really, I think, the most critical point here.
	And just watching these two men go at it and see who comes out on top and who comes out right and who comes out wrong, that was really the fascinating exploration here and how that played out.
	I think it really makes people think it was really provocative.
	And of course, everybody in the production did a perfect job bringing this all to life.
	You're so right because I walked away from this and I saw this when it came out.
	I've seen it many times since then.
	It's one of Katie and I, our favorite movies.
	And you ask yourself, who was right?
	Was Gene Hackman right to say, we've got our orders, launch the nukes?
	Or was Denzel right to say, look, we've got a fragment of a message, it could be a stand down, it may be real, we don't know if it's fake, let's wait.
	Which one of them is right?
	And of course they do represent two ways of looking at the world.
	There's the bullish Individual.
	We've got our commands.
	He says, I'm simple.
	And he calls Denzel sophisticated, cultured, the guy who went to Harvard.
	And here they have a debate in the wardroom on, uh, Clausewitz.
	No, I just think that in the nuclear world...
	a true enemy can't be destroyed.
	Attention on deck.
	Von Clausewitz will now tell us exactly who the real enemy is.
	Bon?
	In my humble opinion, in the nuclear world the true enemy is war itself.
	Oh.
	Now, I've been thinking a lot about that line since I watched it again because I said There's no way a nuclear officer of the US Navy would ever say that, believe it, or especially say it in front of his superior.
	That war is the enemy?
	No!
	War is what you do for a living!
	That's your job!
	And then I think back to my personal experiences and the several colonels I met during an exercise who told me at the end of the exercise I was running that the primary threat to America, this was in Obama's Defense Department, the primary threat to America is climate change and the weather.
	So, yeah, this is a kind of wake-up call for the military we miss and making sure that we need more toxic masculinity and not less toxic masculinity.
	The movie is Crimson Tide 1995, Jerry Bruckheim with Tony Scott, Denzel Washington, Gene Hackman.
	Superb.
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	Democracy.
	Those sailors out there are just boys.
	Boys who are trained to do a terrible, unthinkable thing.
	If that ever occurs, the only reassurance they'll have that they're doing the proper thing is going to derive from their unqualified belief in the unified chain of command.
	That means we don't question each other's motives in front of the crew.
	It means we don't undermine each other.
	It means, in a missile drill, they hear your voice right after mine, without hesitation.
	Do you agree with that policy, sailor?
	Absolutely, sir.
	We're here to preserve democracy, not to practice it.
	Boom.
	Maybe the line of the movie.
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	It's interesting, Chris, what you said about where the real crux of the matter lies.
	Because where does it really originate?
	And it goes to that meeting in the captain's quarters.
	He gets really bent.
	His nose gets out of joint.
	When his XO asks him a question in front of the other officers in public.
	And his issue is appearance.
	You just repeat my command and you obey my order.
	You never ever question what I'm saying in front of the rest of the sailors and crew.
	Is that the most important thing for Gene Hackman?
	Or is it just following the book?
	No, in this is how I read it.
	I mean, this is how I read that idea, is that in the military, specifically, I mean, any kind of business, this is true, where you have like leadership roles, whatever, but in the military, it's absolutely critical that orders are followed.
	You know, not everybody has all the information all the time.
	And there's not always time to explain everything to everyone.
	If somebody is questioning the authority of the commanding officer, And that goes unchecked or unquestioned.
	Others will believe that they can do the same.
	And sooner or later, everything goes to hell and nobody respects the commanding officer.
	So I think that that was a sort of typical thing that I think happens in the military, where somebody will step out of line, and they'll be reprimanded.
	So to me, that was kind of a very naturalistic That's a really good thing to put into the film.
	So much of this film was, as you mentioned before, so realistic.
	Obviously, I mean, I've never been in the military, but I felt like I've been in the military now.
	Like, this was so realistic.
	Everything that they said in this film, everything they did, it seemed like the drilling that they were doing, everything seemed exactly... I feel like the people who produced this film really did their research and really made sure And they actually created a con, a control room, replicated from a submarine that they'd been on.
	They put it on a gimbal so the whole set moved so it could tilt to simulate the angles they had to act under for the diving and for the angles that the submarine would have had in real life.
	But it's interesting, Chris, if you look at the background here.
	The Navy engaged originally, allowed Denzel and others to go on a submarine, meet officers, take notes and whatever.
	And then when they finally read the script and they said, what?
	There's a mutiny on a U.S.
	naval vessel?
	They pulled all support for the movie, which is quite impressive.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	They pulled the support halfway through.
	But still, you can't tell, can you?
	Well, I don't understand why they would do that, because I don't think that this film paints the Navy in a bad light in any way whatsoever.
	It's a thrilling film.
	They just didn't want to show the Navy having a mutiny.
	I think that was their issue.
	It's a little silly, but yeah, I mean, that's kind of, that stuff happens, yeah, I guess.
	But no, you can't tell.
	I mean, they did, the production value in this is, I think, second to none.
	I mean, I believe that I'm there the entire time.
	Totally, totally.
	It is totally immersive, and as you said, you are in the crux of a moral dilemma, and you walk away, ask yourself, who was right?
	Who was wrong?
	What would I do if I were Denzel Washington?
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	Captain, I cannot concur.
	Repeat my command.
	Sir, we don't know what this message means.
	Our target package could have changed.
	You repeat this order or I'll find somebody who will!
	I don't know what you want, sir.
	You're relieved of your position.
	Cobb, remove Mr. Hunter from the control room.
	Get Lieutenant Zimmerman here right now!
	No, sir.
	I do not concur and I do not recognize your authority to relieve me under command under Navy regulations.
	Cobb, arrest this man and get him out of here!
	Under operating procedures governing the release of nuclear weapons, we cannot launch our missiles unless both you and I agree.
	Cobb, what are you waiting for?
	This is expressly why your command must be repeated.
	It requires my assent.
	I do not give it.
	And furthermore, you continue upon this course and insist upon this launch without confirming this message first, I will be forced to act by the rules of precedent, authority, and command.
	I order you to place Nexo under arrest on the charge of mutiny.
	I say again, I order you to place Nexo under arrest on the charge of mutiny.
	Captain, please, the XO is right.
	We can't launch unless he concurs.
	The ultimate safety on a nuclear submarine.
	The captain can't start World War III by himself.
	He's got to have the command from the president verified, and his XO, his deputy, must concur.
	And he doesn't.
	George Zinzer plays the chief of the boat, who's on the side of the captain, But understands that Denzel is right.
	You've got to have concurrence.
	What a great cast.
	Let's mention some of the other names.
	A very young Viggo Mortensen, who's a friend of Denzel's, who doesn't side with him, or tries to, and then gets threatened with his life, plays the weapons officer, Wepps.
	And then, a very, very young, or young-looking, James Gandolfini.
	Every single one of these casting choices, I think, was pitch perfect.
	What do you think, Chris?
	Oh, yeah, absolutely pitch perfect.
	This is a great scene.
	You know, and this is actually the line that made me realize what this film is about.
	It's about that ethical dilemma.
	Do you follow the rules strictly?
	Yeah.
	Or do you go rogue?
	When these what is it called?
	Captain of the boat?
	Yeah.
	Or something like that.
	Yeah.
	And he says, look, I'm not on your side, but I'm a by-the-books kind of guy.
	I'm by-the-books.
	You mean the chief.
	I mean Zunza.
	You mean chief of the boat.
	Sorry, yeah.
	Chief of the boat, who's friends with Captain Hackman, but realizes that the book says you've got to have the concurrence of the deputy, and he doesn't have it, so he can't launch.
	So that is the ultimate dilemma, right?
	That you're friends with the guy who's gone rogue.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and this is why I'm saying I don't know why the Navy wouldn't love this film, because the sort of checks and balances that they put in place are so smart, it's allowed them to do this.
	And you know, I just want to kind of go off a little bit to one side here and say, we're kind of maybe inching toward A similar situation right now.
	I feel like you picked this film at a kind of opportune time.
	I was waiting for you to say this to tell us, who are the MAGA patriots on the USS Alabama, Chris?
	It's a great question.
	It's hard to know, right?
	Because everybody there wants to do the right thing.
	I think everybody on that ship wants to make America great again, if I'm honest.
	On that submarine.
	But we are in a time now where Putin has threatened to use nuclear force.
	And it's so critical to know exactly how to deal with that.
	And this film illustrates that beautifully.
	And I've only seen one man in the past few presidencies who can negotiate effectively with Vladimir Putin.
	And we're sitting here playing with the fate of the world because Kamala Harris wants to bring joy to the White House, or some BS, you know.
	She wants to scare women about some kind of national abortion ban that Trump would never sign anyway, because he's, you know, we brought the abortion, essentially, legislation back to the states, which is what everybody wanted in the first place.
	If you were to sign a national abortion ban, that would sort of reverse that idea.
	So it would be a bit hypocritical anyway.
	He would never do it.
	But Kamala Harris wants to be president because essentially she wants more power, she wants notoriety, she wants to be the first female president, whatever it is.
	But we're dealing with very serious issues in the world right now.
	We need someone who can actually Deal with that stuff and negotiate with these world leaders.
	And that the only man that can do that is Donald Trump.
	So this election is absolutely critical.
	And just watching this movie just reminded me of that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
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	Holocaust.
	Look, it's not a mutiny.
	I did everything by the book.
	It's not about the book.
	If the Russians are going to launch and we sit here and do nothing, who's going to stop them?
	Half of me is glad the captain came back.
	He could be right, you know.
	No orders are valid, Cobb, if they're wrong.
	We don't know if they're wrong.
	That's true, we don't know.
	That's what we have to find out first.
	What if Richenko surrendered and it's over?
	If we launch, they see us.
	They launch.
	Our birds pass each other in the air.
	Boom!
	What do you got?
	Nuclear war.
	Nuclear holocaust.
	As Eric said, an interesting pronunciation of holocaust.
	Nice delivery from Denzel Washington.
	How have we got today where we are with one of the two parties in America, absolute lunatics, who are really affecting a holocaust with the nation.
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	Mike Gonzales next-gen Marxism what it is and how to combat it everything here is just there's one moment in the movie Chris I love where so you know They take back the boat and we'll leave it at this standoff.
	Do they launch?
	Do they not launch?
	We have the two sides.
	And there's this moment where Denzel is talking to the radio operator who's trying to fix the radio that's broken.
	And he's telling him, look, you're like Scotty on Star Trek.
	It's all up to you.
	You've got to save the day.
	Can you do it?
	Relax.
	Count to 10.
	And he's talking to this young kid who's got the soldering iron and fixing it.
	And this is so human, it's so real.
	The XO's talking to this 18-year-old, and the 18-year-old just says, I'm too stressed out.
	He literally puts the phone down.
	Doesn't listen.
	That's good writing, is it not?
	Because that's real life.
	I can't stand it anymore!
	I'm putting the phone down!
	Yeah, no, very real.
	And it's kind of funny, but it's also just like, whoa, I can't believe he did that.
	But that kind of stuff happens in real life.
	And when he first gives him the analogy of Captain Kirk and Scotty, I don't know if you noticed this, but when he leaves, the kid goes, I kept it.
	I just thought that was great as well.
	He plays along a little bit, you know what I mean?
	And then they have this sort of rapport.
	You know, and at the moment when Denzel realizes they got a mutiny, he gives this kid the keys to the boat because he knows that he's built a rapport with this kid and this kid could save him.
	And that's exactly what happens.
	And also, let me just say there is probably one of my favorite moments is when Gene Hackman realizes they're at the surface.
	They've got the radio almost fixed.
	He could dive, he could launch, he could do what he wanted to do, but they're so dang close to getting that message that he realizes in that moment that he might as well just go along with Denzel's plan because it's almost already been executed.
	And so he does something which I think up until that point he's sort of been portrayed as unreasonable.
	And that he does something in that moment that is entirely reasonable.
	Yeah.
	And it's in that moment, I think, that you realize Gene Hackman isn't necessarily the bad guy.
	He's just somebody who's trying to do the right thing, but just might be wrong.
	And so he waits, he gets the message, and thank goodness we do not enter into World War III.
	It is an interesting moment because he does do the reasonable thing.
	He says, I've got a seven minute window before they nuke America.
	So I'm going to give the radio guy three minutes to get that message to see if we have a stand down order.
	However, and I'm curious to get your take on this.
	They do paint him as a racist because there's this story about the Lipinsanas, these amazing horses out of Austria that are either born in Spain or Portugal and they're beautiful and they're all white and then, you know, Gene Hackman says, you know, they're all white.
	They're really amazing, but they're all white.
	And then Denzel says, yeah Cap, but they're born black.
	They come out of their mother's womb black.
	At the end of it all, the drama has subsided.
	The tribunal has said, you're both wrong, you're both right.
	And they meet outside and this is the final interaction between Captain Ramsey and Lieutenant Commander Hunter.
	Just wanted to say thank you.
	You were right and I was wrong.
	About the horses, the Livensoners, they are from Spain, not Portugal.
	Yes, sir.
	They are from Spain, not from Portugal.
	Not the color of which they were born in, but no, not that line.
	All right, we've got to find a unit of measure.
	Final thoughts before we rate the movie.
	Let me just share with you what Roger Ebert of Ebert and Siskel fame said at the time for the Chicago Sun-Times.
	This is the rare kind of war movie that not only thrills people while they're watching, but invites them to leave the theater actually discussing the issues.
	And I think that's quite accurate, quite accurate.
	Expensive at the time, more than $50 million and only recouped three times that, so $53 million to make and recouped $157 million.
	You know, a success, a good review, good reception at the time.
	What is the unit of measure?
	I really don't like Jack Russell's.
	They remind me of my former father-in-law.
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	And look, that moment at the end where they show each other mutual respect.
	Absolutely beautiful moment.
	The race thing was a little weird.
	It was sort of coded, you know, like leftists love that coded language crap.
	I didn't really understand that thing.
	I don't even really think about the race thing with Denzel in a movie.
	They used to do the race thing so much better in the 80s and 90s.
	Now they like, it's, it's always a thing.
	I didn't even think about race until that moment.
	And I thought, is that like a racial thing?
	I don't even know.
	And it was kind of like tacked on from left field.
	Yeah, like we got to put some racial crap in here.
	But the horse thing was vaguely interesting throughout the bit.
	It gives a little humanity, something interesting to talk about.
	But look, at the end of the day, these two guys respect each other.
	They were both trying to do the right thing.
	They showed each other that respect at the very end of the film.
	I thought it was great.
	Like the review says, it makes you think when you walk away.
	I can't think of a single person who would not love this film even today.
	I mean, I just it's just amazing.
	Women probably are obviously they're not going to like it as much as men, but I've got to give it an eight.
	I feel like people from today are going to watch this movie and love it.
	Katie loves it and she's a woman.
	I can attest to that.
	I love this movie.
	I have to do it out of the galaxy of films.
	It's just pitch perfect.
	It's tight.
	It's good writing.
	As you said, Gene Hackman is just a master of the art and Denzel is just perhaps the most charismatic actor we have out there.
	Chris, I'm gonna give it nine Teddy Roosevelt's.
	Absolutely.
	I love that rating.
	Good.
	I'm glad.
	I'm glad.
	And you hadn't seen it before or heard of it before, right?
	I'd never.
	I'd heard of it, but I'd never seen it.
	It had been recommended to me, but I'd never seen it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So I do believe it is Mr. Reagan, Chris Coles' choice of movie.
	What are you choosing for us next week?
	I've got like, I've got like four in my head, and I'm kind of juggling them around.
	Do any of them have James Earl Jones in them?
	Because a caller said we've got to pay tribute to him.
	But maybe we can do that another time.
	So I didn't think through that.
	Yeah, give us give us give us your choices or choice.
	All right.
	All right.
	Why don't we do this is kind of a weird one.
	But I want to just, I just kind of want to stay in this era.
	Can we do The second Die Hard movie?
	Yeah!
	Oh, totally.
	Totally.
	Let's do Die Hard 2.
	As long as you're prepared for me to geek out the big mistake they make with the submachine guns.
	Can I do that?
	Oh, I can't wait.
	That's going to be my favorite part of the review.
	Massive, massive technical mistake.
	That is just really annoying, but it's got one of my favorite actors of all, the man who played Detective Sipowicz from NYPD.
	So he plays the chief of the police in the airport where the bad guys take over.
	Lots of fake snow, but Bruce Willis, not in a towel, but at an airport.
	I love it.
	So next week, Die Hard 2.
	In the meantime, make sure you're following Chris, MrReaganUSA on Twitter, on YouTube, the MrReagan channel, and the Alpha Critic channel, and regularly, every week, the Toxic Masculinity stream.
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