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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Tampon Tim's stolen valor

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	So, I'm going to go ahead and get the next one.
	I'm going to go ahead and get the next one.
	Good evening.
	Good evening.
	Good evening everyone.
	Good evening.
	No, not wet at all.
	Not in the slightest.
	That is Kamala Harris with a... I still can't believe the guy's just six years older than me.
	He looks like he's in his 80s.
	At the rally in Philadelphia, where...
	Governor Shapiro, the Jew they stabbed in the back, had to praise Kamala and Tim Walz, who is... Jeff, why is the hashtag Tampon Tim trending on Twitter today?
	Because when he was governor, he decided to sign into law requiring public schools to put tampons in boys' bathrooms.
	Hang on a second.
	Tampons are female hygienic items.
	Why would you need them in boys' restrooms?
	No, I think they're more fluid now.
	Isn't that it?
	Is it more of a fluid object?
	Oh, I'm starting to worry.
	Starting to worry about Mr. G. Yes, who are the weirdos, and who really can we count on to tell the truth about America, or even something far simpler, the truth about their background and their service to the nation?
	Oh my dear, we have such a show for you today.
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	OK, so who is Tampon, Tim?
	And how are they attacking The person that President Trump chose as their vice president.
	Firstly, Nancy Pelosi had this to say on MSNBC about the Marine who served in a combat theater, namely Iraq.
	They really have no soul.
	Cut ten!
	J.D.
	Vance has criticized him as never having been in combat.
	Has he?
	Has J.D.
	Vance been in combat?
	He was over in Iraq, I think.
	He was over in Iraq, I think.
	So, you don't even know?
	That the person who could be the next vice president served in Iraq with the Marines.
	But it gets worse.
	There's somebody who's a surrogate for Tim Walz called Tina Smith.
	Who is this Tina Smith, Jeff?
	She's some kind of politician?
	I think she was a senator, or was a senator.
	She's a surrogate for the Kamala.
	And she's talking to who?
	It's a bilio, right?
	OK, so Abilio Acosta on CNN.
	This is even more egregious.
	Carly Levin.
	Well, here is Tim Walz, who enlisted when he was 17 years old.
	He served in the National Guard for 24 years.
	And I'm not aware of any military service that J.D.
	Vance has ever served.
	So let's just make the comparison there.
	Wow, either incredibly moronic or just a paid propagandist.
	I don't know of any military service.
	Well, let's talk about Tim Walz's military service in the National Guard.
	This is from Alpha News.
	From an individual who replaced Tim Walls, just when his unit was going to deploy in combat for the first time, little Timmy decided to take off his uniform.
	So what's the truth about the man that Kamala has chosen?
	Cut one.
	Back in 2005, a warning order went out to the 1st Battalion 125th Field Artillery to mobilize for a mission to Iraq.
	At the time, Walls served as the unit's highest non-commissioned officer.
	But months later, Walls would retire from the Guard, avoid the deployment, and run for Congress.
	Tom Behrens was next in line for the position and was asked to take his place.
	I was like, well, for Pete's sake, this guy quit.
	If I say I'm not going to do it, I mean, what the hell kind of leadership is that?
	If a company would say, That we're going to deploy to Iraq or somewhere, and you're going to be gone for whatever amount of time, and then a foreman just says, no, I'm not going.
	I mean, what does that say to the 500 people that work in that factory?
	Barron's would go on to serve in Iraq on a nearly two-year deployment as a command sergeant major.
	Alwell Walls began using that title as a congressman.
	Barron says he first contacted Walls with his concerns, sending these letters to Washington.
	They all went unanswered.
	But then we fast forward to the election in 2018 in Minnesota, and you try at that time to get people's attention with this story and also with what seems to be a very misleading statement that he continued to make about his service.
	It kind of just sat there.
	You know, when he was a congressman, he bragged that he was a retired command sergeant major.
	I'm the highest ranking person ever in in the house and you know all this lie that he was telling.
	The state of Minnesota came out after 2018 after this was exposed and they said well he can say that he served as a command sergeant major but he can't say he's a retired one because he's not.
	And that's what he was saying?
	And he was saying that and there was lots of public you know lots of cards coming in the mail you know for him to be elected.
	They said right on her he's a retired command sergeant major just tooting his own horn just Hanging on the coattails of people that actually are Command Sergeant Majors that went through all the process and put all the time in.
	So he's actually referring to himself by a rank that he really didn't serve in and didn't satisfy the requirements of.
	I know it's technical, but this is important.
	The man we had on the show for the Manhood Hour on Monday, former Green Beret, Congressman Mike Waltz, he breaks it down even more succinctly.
	Cut 15.
	A lot of discussion out there in the veterans community about Governor Tim Walz's military record.
	I think it boils down to two issues.
	One is the fact that he's described himself over his political career as a Sergeant Major, as the highest enlisted rank in the Army.
	He was promoted to Sergeant Major, but then in order to stay in that rank, you have to complete certain training.
	You have to complete the Sergeant Major's Academy, which he never did.
	So he was subsequently demoted to Master Sergeant before he retired.
	A lot of questions there on how he should be describing himself.
	And I think those are fair to ask and he should answer them.
	And then the bigger issue is walking away from his soldiers after they had been called to go to Iraq.
	I commanded Green Berets.
	Everything that you do prepares you for But you know what everybody's missing?
	The biggest story of all.
	lead your men and women into harm's way. It's kind of like the quarterback of a
	big team walking away from from their team right before they go to the Super
	Bowl. I've never heard anything like it, especially the fact that he was a
	command sergeant major. I've never heard of a commander or sergeant major
	stepping away from their unit before they go down range.
	But you know what everybody's missing? The biggest story of all. Nobody's
	mentioned this. I don't get it. How can you serve in the National Guard for more than
	20 years and spend every year visiting Communist China and actually spend a
	year in Communist China living there during the Tiananmen Square massacre?
	I have a clearance.
	I had one in the White House.
	I had to report any contact with foreign nationals that was outside of official business.
	I had to tell every time I travel abroad where I was going and why.
	If I visited Communist China once, and I didn't have a good excuse, the alarm bells would ring.
	So how does Tim Walz visit China every year for 20 years, actually honeymoon there, live there for more than a year, and maintain his position inside the National Guard?
	That's the buried lead, as they say.
	That's the real story.
	And we've only just begun.
	This is an insane news cycle.
	Make sure you're following us on all the social media platforms.
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	Make sure you are watching us through the Salem News Channel app.
	and check out my latest on who JD Vance is at sebastiangorka.substack.com nobody's talking about that
	Is he really lying about his rank?
	That's just something that's verifiable.
	And then he decided to re-enlist right after September 11th.
	Is that right?
	I'm pretty sure it was September 18th.
	It was the week after.
	I'm only going to remember when they break up.
	Let me look that up.
	They raked that guy in Ohio, J.R.
	Majewski, over the coals.
	Over like, oh, were you really in combat or not?
	No, I think the China thing is a hundred times more.
	A hundred?
	You can't be in the National Guard with a clearance and live in Communist China in 1989 for a year!
	Why is nobody talking about it?
	And then return every year.
	And then return!
	Did he really honeymoon there too?
	Yes!
	Just like Bernie Sanders in the Soviet Union!
	It's insane!
	The re-enlistment date is very, I think, kind of concerning too with that.
	You know what I mean?
	Send me anything you find.
	Alright, can we do a, um... Casio cuts.
	Casio.
	Three minutes.
	Oh, go ahead.
	It's dialing now if you want to start.
	Uh, okay.
	Um...
	The man who replaced Tim Walz in the National Guard said he lied about his time in uniform.
	Just listen.
	President Trump on hashtag tampon Tim and his idea of serving the nation.
	Thank you.
	Just jump to 11.
	What number was that?
	That was 5.
	Then jump to 11.
	5 was Tim Walz.
	What?
	5 is Tim Walz.
	Oh sorry, I thought that was the interview.
	Just scrub that then, I need to watch it again.
	Go to... Should be on 9.
	No, not doing 9.
	We're doing 11.
	No, no, not doing nine.
	Okay.
	We're doing eleven.
	Okay.
	Um, is there no lie?
	They won't spread.
	Um...
	I Hashtag tampon Tim's surrogate at Tina Smith says JD Vance never served in the military and abilio at Acosta doesn't correct her.
	13.
	Squad member at Cori Bush loses her primary.
	Next line, she seems nice.
	16.
	This is how you deal with the stolen valor of hashtag tampon Tim.
	Then 19.
	The chilling truth about who Kamala Harris really is.
	Watch her describe her power.
	30 seconds.
	20.
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	One of the best things on Kamala I've ever seen on the internet.
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	Let's continue the topic of who Tim Walz really is.
	Here's J.D.
	Vance's take, cut 16.
	Well, you know what really bothers me about Tim Walz as a Marine who served his country in uniform?
	When the United States Marine Corps, when the United States of America asked me to go to Iraq to serve my country, I did it.
	I did what they asked me to do, and I did it honorably, and I'm very proud of that service.
	When Tim Walz was asked by his country to go to Iraq, you know what he did?
	He dropped out of the Army and allowed his unit to go without him, a fact that he's been criticized for aggressively by a lot of the people that he served with.
	I think it's shameful to prepare your unit to go to Iraq, to make a promise that you're going to follow through, and then to drop out right before you actually have to go.
	How filthy, how dirty.
	We've seen Nancy Pelosi and others deny the service that J.D.
	Vance gave to the nation.
	Let's talk to somebody who is also irate with the calumny, with the lies.
	A man who's been to war zones, who's worn the cloth of the republic, a good friend of the show.
	He's the author most recently of the superb book, The Attack.
	Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
	Welcome back.
	Thanks for having me, Dr. Gorka.
	All right, so we played the long interview with Command Sergeant Major, real Command Sergeant Major, Tom Behrens.
	And I have in front of me the letter he wrote to a local newspaper, along with Command Sergeant Major Paul Herr.
	Basically, all the details of what Waltz has done and what he's lied about.
	Give us your take as a man who served this nation honorably in uniform, in theater.
	You know, I'm so tired of these people.
	Why are you so calm?
	You've been flaming on Twitter for the last 72 hours.
	What is up with you, dude?
	You're relaxed.
	I'm trying to keep it FCC compliant for you.
	You don't want to get fined.
	Look, this guy's a bum.
	You know, I spent a lot of time around Sergeant Majors.
	I had a Sergeant Major as a battalion commander.
	And this guy is a certain type.
	And there aren't a lot of them, but there are enough of them and everybody remembers them.
	Like I tell you, Dr. Gorka, the whole vet community is up in arms about this.
	They are furious at this guy.
	But is it going to matter?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	There are millions and millions of voters and millions and millions of vet voters in these key swing states.
	And I gotta tell you, these guys are motivated.
	Sergeant Majors have a way of motivating people.
	There's good motivation, and then there's bad motivation.
	And what Tim Walz is doing is bad motivation, because he's motivating a whole bunch of us to come out there and say, hey, no.
	No, and I'm voting no on you.
	Alright, so there's a couple of aspects of this story and I want your professional take and then I want you to make a judgment call.
	So there's the aspect of using a rank, especially when he ran for Congress, that he wasn't supposed to use because he may have been promoted to CSM.
	But he never did the mandatory requirements after that.
	He didn't go to the Command Sergeant Major Academy.
	He didn't do any of the other things.
	He just punked out as soon as his unit was required to deploy to a war zone for the first time.
	Is it the lying about his rank?
	Is it punking out?
	Okay, let me do it like this.
	How significant is it For somebody in a leadership role, whether they're an NCO, warrant officer or an officer, how serious is it that you've been in a unit for years, in his case, 20 plus years, and the first time your unit is called up to deploy, you pop smoke and you disappear?
	Can you explain why that's a problem, Kurt?
	I think it's pretty obvious to anybody with any trace of dignity or manhood.
	If you want to lead, you want to lead your people.
	And I love being a leader on the officer side.
	My Sergeant Majors love being leaders on the NCO side.
	I don't get it.
	I don't understand these kind of guys, but I do know the type.
	There are a few of them.
	There are people who love the rank, love the privilege.
	The fact that he keeps calling himself Command Sergeant Major, even though he was, you know, moved back down to being a Master Sergeant.
	You know, that's just kind of gross.
	It's just, you know, it's mortifying, Dr. Gorka, when he goes and gets in a video that the Harris campaign actually put out, where he says, you know, trying to take away our guns, you know, instead of defending the Constitution, he's undermining it.
	He wants to take away our, well, I carried this weapon in war.
	Yeah.
	Well, what war, dude?
	Yeah.
	What war?
	He went in a war.
	The thing is, if he had just been cool about it and, you know, gone when he was supposed to go, he'd have perfectly legitimate service.
	You know, there are, you know, you, you know, at one point he went over and spent a few months guarding bases in Italy.
	Hey, everybody gets crappy duty sometimes, okay?
	Nothing to be ashamed of.
	Go serve your time, do your thing, and stand with your guys.
	If you do those things, you're fine.
	He didn't stand with his guys, Dr. Gorka.
	And let's look at what the left is doing to his opponent, J.D.
	Vance.
	I'm going to play these clips again.
	It's just a couple of seconds long.
	This is Nancy Pelosi lying about J.D.
	Vance's honorable service in a theater of combat.
	Cut 10.
	J.D.
	Vance has criticized him as never having been in combat.
	Has he?
	Has he?
	Has J.D.
	Vance been in combat?
	Well, he was over in Iraq, I think.
	I think he was over in Iraq.
	Then we have the surrogate for Tim Walz.
	This is State Senator Tina Smith, who just says that J.D.
	Vance has no prior service.
	Cut 11.
	Well, here is Tim Walz, who enlisted when he was 17 years old.
	He served in the National Guard for 24 years.
	And I'm not aware of any military service that J.D.
	Vance has ever served.
	So, let's just make the comparison there.
	Actually, Senator from Minnesota.
	So, reaction?
	He never served or he didn't go to combat?
	Well, look, I didn't go to combat.
	I was in the Gulf.
	I was in Kosovo.
	Nobody ever shot at me.
	I showed up.
	I washed trucks.
	I did my thing, came home, brought all my guys back.
	Sometimes civilians will say, you know, being in a war zone is the same as being in combat.
	Military people see it differently.
	And I always make sure everybody knows, no, I wasn't in combat.
	I don't have a combat infantry badge.
	And I don't want credit for some I didn't do.
	I don't want to lessen the credit other people have earned.
	I don't know if J.D.
	Vance was shot at.
	I don't know if he came under indirect fire from mortars or rockets or whatever.
	I don't know and frankly I don't care.
	But to actually say he never served, he never served like that Democrat.
	Well, she's just either an idiot or a liar.
	Oh, that's exactly what I said about 15 minutes ago.
	We're talking to Kurt Schlichter.
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	Don't touch that dial.
	Oh, he's not, he's not, he's not.
	Oh, he was talking to you, Geoff.
	Sorry, he was putting his headset on.
	What'd you say?
	What is the significance of that story you just told me?
	What do you think that means, that he re-enlisted after 9-11?
	I just think it's weird that he re-enlisted right after 9-11.
	He was out, he was in Nebraska and Nashville before that.
	And then he doesn't go to Iraq?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So you really think it's going to piss people off, Kurt?
	Yeah, the vets are really hot about it.
	And you know, I don't understand these guys who want to puff up their records.
	You know, show up, serve honorably, and it's fine, man.
	Everybody doesn't have to be Audie Murphy.
	No, but, and the idea that, you know, it's a big deal for you to say you're a command sergeant major, as opposed to a master sergeant.
	It is a big deal!
	It's a big honor!
	No, no, but you're back down at a sergeant major, and you can't use that as part of your campaign, that you're a sergeant major?
	You know, it...
	I am not sure what the proper regulation use of a FROC rank that has been withdrawn is.
	I wouldn't do it.
	Right.
	I wouldn't do it.
	That's the point.
	People call me Colonel because I'm an 06.
	I have the 06.
	I still have it.
	I don't even like using that.
	You know?
	Because I felt that my rank was something that was given to me to use as a tool.
	It's not mine.
	It doesn't belong to Kurt Schlichter.
	It belongs to the people of the United States.
	But you have that rank to the day you die, dude.
	Don't forget that.
	I do hold the rank, but I hold it in trust.
	It's not mine.
	If that makes any sense.
	It does.
	It does.
	Can you play Cup 5 for us? 5...
	Donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us.
	First of all, he doesn't know the first thing about service.
	He doesn't have time for it because he's too busy serving himself.
	Yeah, he's actually been shot at, unlike you.
	Uh, come in with that, we'll do- We'll do my- Damn!
	Uh, new titles, by the way.
	Monologue and, uh, Chris.
	Uh, Chris, uh, Trump is a hero, in quotes.
	Yup.
	Monologue.
	Um, the- the- the real scan- the real Tim Waltz scandal, nobody's, um, noticed.
	which we will discuss next with Colonel Kay.
	Yeah, she screwed up big time.
	It's so dumb!
	Get somebody who's the Democrat J.D.
	Vance.
	Get somebody that is the working class, you know... Mark Kelly.
	You know, somebody who's a success story, can relate to real Democrats you've betrayed for 60 years.
	And they pick this asshole?
	I absolutely would have taken Shapiro, but, you know, a little problem that, you know, they hate Jews.
	Right.
	Stand by.
	This is a test.
	This is a test.
	Donald Trump sees the world a little differently than us.
	Audience laughs.
	you First of all, he doesn't know the first thing about service.
	He doesn't have time for it because he's too busy serving himself.
	Yeah, Tampon Tim, at least he was shot at, unlike you, Sergeant Major Walls.
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	Now, I admit ignorance with regards to what classification access members of the National
	Guard have, but I'm going to talk about what I think is the biggest scandal nobody's talking
	about with regards to Governor Tim Walz, Kurt, and I'd like your input. And we haven't rehearsed this.
	So, I had a clearance in the British Army.
	I had a clearance in the White House, top secret SCI, and I still do today.
	As part of that process, you have to fill out an SF-86 background investigation form.
	They vary in length depending upon how many annexes you add.
	Because I was born abroad, and because I have relatives and friends outside of this country, my first SF-86 form was 74 pages long.
	Okay.
	One of the things you have to do is fill out every trip you've ever made abroad, then surrender your passport so the investigator can verify those trips.
	Here's the real story nobody's talking about, Kurt.
	Tim Walz has admitted, proudly, that he has traveled to China every year since the Tiananmen Square massacre.
	In that year, he lived there for a year, working in Communist China during the massacre.
	He has headlined pro-Chinese business events in America.
	So here's my question to you, Kurt.
	How does somebody who wears the uniform of the National Guard for 25 years get away with living for a year and visiting every year and even having his honeymoon in Communist China, Kurt?
	I'm a little perplexed.
	I'm a little perplexed, too.
	I mean, I know those, you know, I had a TSCI also.
	Try having one with a Cuban immigrant wife.
	Let me tell you, when they're done with the process, you're also coincidentally cleared of having colon cancer.
	Yes, it is a rather full investigation.
	It is thorough.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I just don't know.
	I know that... But doesn't it raise questions?
	Does it make you scratch your head?
	Oh boy, does it raise questions!
	I cannot imagine that this guy, if he was doing that, wouldn't have been debriefed every single time he went.
	I don't know.
	But it's weird.
	And his attachment to communist China, and his own attachment to communism, I find very, very disturbing.
	If you're not familiar with that, he has actually said that socialism is just another person's neighborliness, Kurt.
	Well, yeah, the Germans were the neighbors of the Poles.
	And that didn't work out so great in 1939.
	1939. Wow. I mean, he is, you know, Kamala Harris picked a hard left radical. I
	Wow.
	I think she picked him because he... Well, he's not Jewish.
	...did the same thing that got him the sergeant major rank.
	He kissed up.
	Right.
	And he didn't present himself as a threat.
	Josh Shapiro was a threat, also Jewish.
	That didn't help.
	And, you know, Mark Kelly, I think, was a threat to her, too.
	And I think she took this guy, And, uh, thought, well, he was in the army, the army guy, those rubes will love it.
	Well, those rubes who actually serve know a little about the military and they know this guy because they've seen him and he was always a pain.
	And, uh, now they're speaking out.
	And if you look on social media, uh, people are not, uh, shy about, uh, what they think of this guy.
	And I think I, I, I wrote a column today that said, he's Pete, uh, that Kamau Harris is Pete.
	I stand by that, and I have a column coming out in town hall tomorrow, outside the paywall, talking about Tim Walz.
	And I gotta say, it's a little hostile.
	Alright, well we can't wait.
	In the meantime, if you discuss this individual on social media, start using the hashtag Kurt, myself, and other patriots are using, which is hashtag AWOLS.
	AWOLS, if you know what I mean.
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	Yeah, I am.
	Sorry.
	Oh, no worries.
	No worries.
	Are you working?
	Yeah, it's gonna be... I've got a... I've actually got to go make a court appearance.
	What?
	You're gonna have to put some pants on?
	I know, right?
	I usually have associates for that.
	But, you know, like a good leader, I am raising up my people.
	So my people are out doing trials.
	All right.
	So, when the...
	When everything goes to hell, you know, the commander needs to pick up a shovel and start digging a trench.
	And you don't call yourself Brigadier General either?
	No, I do not.
	I never earned the rank.
	Wow, what a sterling idea not to call yourself by the rank you never received.
	It's just mortifying.
	I just don't get it.
	This is what I don't get.
	I don't get it with Buttigieg.
	I don't get it with this guy.
	Why would you volunteer to serve in the military if you hate America and you're a left-wing scumbag?
	Just so you can say you serve.
	Because it helps them politically.
	That's why they do it.
	Yeah.
	And the thing is, you go and do your thing.
	You don't have to be a war hero.
	And you're fine, but some of these guys just can't help it.
	And he goes around and he calls himself a combat veteran as he tries to take our AR-15s.
	Oh, come on!
	He carried it in a war!
	What war?
	All right.
	Thanks, buddy.
	What the hell do you know about wars?
	Don't forget to put some pants on tomorrow.
	I can't make any promise.
	Say hi to your bride.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	Hey, um, Katie said she spent, she sent it by PayPal, but you don't have PayPal I request.
	I do not know.
	I wonder who got your money.
	Funny.
	Title for a schlicker by the way.
	Um... A. Walls?
	Tim Walls is a bum.
	No, my point is, he does it right after September 11th, because you know he has political ambitions.
	He's inspired by it, and then when it comes time to go, he jumps out.
	That makes sense.
	Coming with 14.
	14.
	The Pentagon is not a bunch of green tree-huggers.
	The Pentagon understands it's a risk to the climate, it's a risk to the environment, and it's a national security issue.
	They're trying to create the Great Green Fleet where we power our Navy using algae.
	Yeah, that's Tim Walz saying the US Navy is going to be powered by algae.
	It's gonna be a lot of algae you need to replace 12 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.
	And those submarines.
	How are those submarines going to dive under algae power?
	It's President Trump.
	He said it right.
	This is the most radical ticket in American history.
	He was on Fox & Friends this morning.
	Cut to eight.
	There's never been a ticket like this.
	This is a ticket that would want this country to go communist immediately, if not sooner.
	We want no security.
	We want no anything.
	He's very heavy into transgender.
	Anything transgender he thinks is great.
	And he's not where the country is on anything.
	Yeah, the most radical ticket or two tickets we have ever seen.
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	Line one, Alex Brooklyn.
	Hey Sebastian, thanks for taking the call in.
	I want to say, I think, you know, I really hope that Trump wins this race.
	I think the way he's campaigning right now on the Trump campaign is going about running against Kamala.
	We're going to lose this race.
	Why?
	Because we're way too focused on the rhetoric as opposed to just talking about the facts.
	And even calling Tim Walz a radical and saying, oh, he's extremely radical and terrible.
	That's not something that sells to Democratic voters.
	You made a mistake, Alex.
	We're not going to talk to Democrat voters.
	The Democrats are a cult and a tribe.
	Nothing you, I, or President Trump will ever say will convince somebody who voted for a senile man like The current incumbent.
	So your analysis is flawed with that statement.
	We're going to win this in the middle, with the undecideds and the independents.
	And to talk about the facts, do you watch President Trump's rallies?
	Yes, I do.
	Do you listen to what he talks about?
	Inflation, the border, crime, war.
	Those are all factual statements.
	So tell us what he should be doing differently that he's not doing right now.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	He's also talking about the facts and making the right arguments about Kamala Harris and Walt.
	But also you mentioned about Democrats.
	There are a lot of independents that are Democrats.
	And democratic personality voters.
	That's why we have such a divide.
	So with an independent, it's not good to talk about, oh I don't know, Tim Walz allowing cities in his state to be burnt down by BLM or making it a haven, a sanctuary for children to be mutilated by transgender lunatics.
	Why should he not talk about that?
	So mentioning the fact is important, and that's something that would be successful if you do that.
	But once you start talking about and saying that he's an extreme radical, and then saying Kamala Harris is like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren combined, these independent voters that are similar to Democrats, and that's usually why they vote like Democrats, they're very much personality-focused.
	And they say, hey, Kamala Harris doesn't have that radical personality, and neither does Tim Walz.
	and you can't convince them that way and then the media they say
	uh... look trumpeting he's a radical you know we don't like a you'll see he
	doesn't have that kind of personality and he was never
	spoken about in that way nobody nobody spoke about him off as being a radical
	until now and it's really hard to sell that so i think the keeping
	for from the focus on would be
	only to talk about time kamala harris to the by the ministration being the
	borders are you know signing
	uh... voting on this inflation reduction which really increased inflation bill
	and time to the by the ministration as well as mentioning her
	radical policy positions but without
	Giving her a label.
	Let the voters label her.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm going to ask Jeff to give me his input because labeling worked pretty bloody well in 2016 with the Rhinos and with Hillary.
	But let me cogitate on that.
	Thank you, Alex.
	Let's talk to somebody who knows a little bit about military service.
	Ray in Livermore, line two.
	Hey, Dr. G. I mean, Dr. Gorka, man.
	Dennis Prager has a saying, clarity over agreement.
	And I like that.
	I like Dennis Prager.
	Not because I agree with him.
	Because I think he's authentic.
	Yes.
	I used to love Rush Limbaugh.
	I still do.
	Because he was authentic.
	Not just because I agreed with him.
	And even you.
	I love you.
	And I stand shoulder to shoulder on almost everything.
	I feel a butt coming on, my friend.
	Even Donald Trump.
	I don't like everything he says sometimes.
	But he's authentic.
	He is who he is.
	He is not fake.
	Now, we need to rethink this Harris-Waltz ticket.
	Because after I saw that phone call, That was the most authentic thing I've seen in a long time.
	It even talked to the Obama authenticity phone call earlier.
	And when you see that kind of authenticity on display, it just happened, it was happenstance.
	How can you argue with such a thing?
	These people are the real deal, Dr. G. I've got to rethink my position.
	I feel a tad, a tad sarcasm over the line.
	Ray, but did you see the phone call between Doug Emhoff, Kamala's husband who has his own deep ties to China, did you see the phone call between him and Governor Walsh's wife?
	Are you talking about Alley Cat, Doug?
	Yeah, Alley Cat, Doug!
	No, I happen to miss that one, but I'll get it once I see it.
	Just you wait.
	Just you wait.
	It's as good as when Senator Warren says, I'm gonna go get me a beer.
	We're gonna play next here on America First.
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	Okay.
	I am, like, infuriated as the Trump's losing all the sudden people.
	It really is.
	Yeah, well, we'll take that call.
	Well, it's like the point Jeff brought up before, like if they were gonna steal it no matter what, then why get rid of Biden?
	Like, that is a really good point.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	What do you want to say?
	What do you want to say?
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So Friday 16th, right Jeff?
	When you're off.
	Can't handle the truth?
	Is reality just too much?
	There's always NPR.
	I hear they have tote bags.
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	Let's go to Mark in California.
	Yeah, hey there, long-time listener, first-time caller.
	Hey, I'm a little nervous, like that last speaker who talked about how Mr. Trump is not running an effective campaign right now, that he has a new opponent, so he's got to flip this a little bit.
	He's got to be a little bit more specific about the things that are wrong with the current policies and why, three years after Biden, we have the world we're living in.
	And I was going to, I won't go out on a limb here, and I'll say, I kind of hold him responsible for us living in the world we live in, Because he lost 2020.
	He lost the... So you don't believe they stole 2020.
	You believe that a decrepit old man who campaigned from his basement got more votes than the first black president.
	That's what you believe, Mark?
	I think they bent the rules and the gray area went... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Hang on.
	You think they bent the rules and they didn't steal it?
	Listen, regardless, I'm not going to...
	We don't want to litigate, re-litigate the past.
	No, no.
	You're the one who said that he lost it.
	So you think he lost it fair and square?
	So this is the exact kind of... No, no.
	Answer the question.
	If you can't answer the question, this isn't a conversation.
	You're blaming... You said he is to blame for 2020.
	So they won it fair and square, Mark?
	I don't think fair and square.
	Okay.
	So why are you blaming him?
	Because...
	In the moments when he could have shined, when he could have, for example, in that first debate against Biden, when Biden, when he just attacked Biden in a very ephemeral way, it's kind of like he talked about his son having a drug problem and all this kind of stuff.
	You took every female voter in this country and you basically made them look at Trump as to what everybody's been telling them he is.
	And then they're like, I can't vote for this guy.
	So he lost the independent voter right then and there.
	And then he continued to like, so blame, name, you know, name, play the blame game and call people names.
	Just take a step back here.
	When he became president 2016, he was under assault, as we all know, right?
	But had he taken a book from the Godfather, keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer, or Sun Tzu, know thy enemy, know the art of war, He would have played his two, four years completely different.
	If he were taking a little bit more humor at these people, yes, they were attacking him unfairly, no doubt it.
	But he had to figure out a way to get through that.
	He didn't.
	And so by four years later, he had the entire world against him.
	Unfairly.
	Unfairly, no doubt.
	Okay?
	I don't get the logic of what you're saying.
	So he is responsible, but he's not responsible.
	You're trying to be half-pregnant, Mark, and I don't buy it.
	I really don't buy it.
	But thank you for calling and being a long-term listener.
	We've run out of time.
	Call back any time.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	One hour down, two to go.
	you you
	If you want a strong economy, you've got to vote for Trump.
	We can only know that.
	Well, no.
	Yesterday was, you know, this is the end of the world.
	It's the apocalypse because the market would start rebounding as it went up.
	Then overnight, Japan went totally back.
	So that story went away.
	And then today, what, it went up 600 points when she announced Tim Walz?
	I don't think that's... Are you tying the stock market to whether or not... I'm certainly like, that's Donald Trump.
	That's new.
	I was saying, if you live by it, you die by it.
	Usually it's based on fundamentals like profit.
	Voices like nails on a chalkboard.
	It's like, drives me insane, but at least she was dealt with properly.
	Jessica Tarlow on The Five yesterday saying, oh yeah, the economy's great now because Tim Walz Yeah, okay.
	Very amusing.
	So much to discuss with our good friend.
	We're going to have her do the sanity check for the discussion we had in the production room just a moment ago.
	She's the co-host of the superb podcast, the Happy Women podcast with Katie, my muse, Jennifer Horn.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	So happy to be here.
	Alright, so Jeff, don't get on Jeff's bad side.
	I don't want to be there.
	You don't want to be on Santa Claus's naughty list, but even worse than that is Jeff's bad side.
	Jeff, you're pretty frustrated with some of our callers, some of our listeners, and some of the things you're hearing in the conservative media.
	What's the issue?
	Explain it to Jen so that she can give us her take.
	It's a lot of people that are all worried now.
	Trump's not running the campaign now all of a sudden, that Kamala has all this momentum, that she's moving, we're going to lose because of Trump's insults.
	Just, let's not forget about the fact he's been insulting someone on the left every day since he came down that escalator.
	Like, this is new or something.
	I don't know anything that Trump has done the last couple weeks, but he's not running a good campaign and we're going to lose now.
	So, to summarize it, he's being mean and we're losing because he's mean, Jen.
	You know, it's funny.
	Someone actually sent you and I a tweet that said exactly that.
	He's being mean and they said that both of us have his ear and we need to correct the record right away.
	And it makes me laugh because so much of what you're seeing right now is self-created.
	And Jeff, I could not agree with you more on the program that I host with Grant in The Morning Answer.
	I keep telling people, take a breath, relax.
	The reason that you feel that there is all this momentum It's because the mainstream news media is working for the Harris campaign, and so of course they're creating all of this momentum.
	Here's what I want people to understand.
	First of all, I think Tim Walz is the very best choice that we could have hoped for.
	I think he is far less scary than having someone like Josh Shapiro on the ticket with Kamala Harris, because there are probably some arguments to be made.
	This guy is a radical, leftist lunatic just like Kamala Harris.
	And the country has lost her appetite for that.
	So you're hearing a ton of excitement from California, which here's a spoiler alert,
	Kamala Harris is going to win anyway, no matter what President Trump does.
	She'll win California.
	You're hearing it from my state.
	You're hearing it from New York.
	You're hearing it from blue cities across the country that they're so happy with this
	But look what happened overnight.
	Cori Bush was just beaten.
	One of the members of the squad who Tim Walz and Kamala Harris represent and stand side-by-side with, lost in a Democrat primary to a more moderate Democrat candidate.
	It's Jamal Bowman all over again.
	He, too, lost the race.
	So the members of the squad are losing in their own individual elections.
	Don't fall for the public relations branch of the Democrat Party telling you that Tim Walz and Kamala Harris have this thing in the bag.
	I don't believe it for a second.
	Now, that doesn't mean it's not going to be close.
	I do believe it's going to be close because we are such a divided country at this moment.
	But this is not about the Trump campaign.
	This is about the media trying to create something for Kamala Harris.
	Thank you.
	And look, I want to know, who is giving her my cut sheet?
	It's like she knows what I'm going to do next.
	This is like spooky-wooky.
	All right, we're going to, all right, let's do that.
	Because this is Cori Bush.
	And I just tweeted this clip, and I just said, she seems nice.
	This is after she was primaried out of existence yesterday.
	Because see, now I don't have to worry about some strings that I have attached that as much as I love my job.
	But all they did was radicalize me and so now they need to be afraid!
	Hey Pac, I'm coming to tear your kingdom down!
	Um, she seems nice, doesn't she?
	Charming.
	You know, the thing about these Democrats, they are charming.
	Charming all the way through, I'll tell you what.
	This is the thing.
	You want to tear down AIPAC.
	They show you who they are, and actually she says she wants to be let go.
	So we have to ask our country.
	We have to ask, honestly.
	Absolutely.
	The people like Josh Shapiro or John Fetterman who are Democrats, is this what you want?
	Is this what we want our elected officials to do?
	The fact that she's celebrating that she lost so that she can tear them apart?
	This is the radical nature of the Democrat Party.
	And with Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz, she showed us exactly where she wants to lead the country.
	Here's an example, just seven seconds long.
	This is Tim Walsh on MSNBC.
	This is Cut12.
	If you have any question that these guys aren't radical communists who hate America and the Constitution, listen to this from Tim Walsh, Cut12.
	I think we need to push back on this.
	There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
	There's no guarantee to free speech around misinformation, especially when it comes to democracy.
	I mean, it's like the Constitution and the Bill of Rights do not exist for these people, Jen.
	I see where they get along. They both have a lot of word selling qualities.
	Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, what does that even mean? I don't know.
	But I love it. The Democrats love to crumple up the Constitution. They love to throw it in the
	trash when it doesn't appeal to him. I mean, I was appalled.
	You know, we're getting to know Tim Walz relatively quickly. And a lot of this stuff we
	heard four years ago during the BLM riots and George Floyd.
	But the fact that his wife, first of all, if you have, I don't know if you guys have the clip floating around.
	That's it.
	Somebody gave her my cut sheet.
	This is wrong.
	This is, it's my show.
	You can share a show with Katie.
	Okay.
	This is my show right now.
	All right.
	She says shmelt.
	Make sure you listen to this.
	But she wants to hear this.
	She wants to smell burning tires.
	These people are lunatics.
	Play the cut.
	This is Waltz's wife talking about the fires that burn down the cities of the state of which her husband is the guy.
	This is like creepy level.
	Cut.
	Where do we have this? 17.
	I would say those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires.
	And that was a very real thing.
	And I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening.
	So she wants to smell the burning tires.
	What kind of a psycho is this woman?
	I'm telling you.
	They, you know, I guess it was Tim Walz who came up with the idea of calling JD Vance and Republicans weirdos.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't like to burn or listen or smell the smell of burning tires in my neighborhood.
	These people are wackadoodles.
	I just, I don't understand.
	And it was almost like they were proud of the people who burned down Minneapolis.
	And I think it's also telling when you hear Tim Walz, and if you have a cut of this, we're just going to have to go home for the day.
	Tim Walz, the mayor of Minneapolis, he was asking for help, begging for help from the National Guard, and Tim Walz says, well, I just want to keep it under advisement.
	So apparently, you think it is patriotic to see police precincts burning down and people setting their cars on fire.
	And actually giving the order not to protect that precinct.
	We haven't got much time left in this segment, but I've got to play this because this is the top of the ticket.
	This cut is chilling.
	She is word salad Veep now.
	But in 2010, at a conference in Google, listen to what Kamala Harris said about her power.
	It is freakishly disturbing.
	Cut 19.
	The power I have as a prosecutor is that with a swipe of my pen, I can charge someone with a misdemeanor, the lowest level offense possible.
	And by virtue of that swipe of my pen, You will have to go to a courthouse and stand in line.
	You will have to come out of pocket and hire an attorney.
	You may get arrested for a few hours.
	You will be embarrassed in your community.
	You will miss time from coming onto the Google campus.
	All because, with the swipe of my pen, I've charged you with a crime, which I may choose to dismiss two weeks later.
	It's an incredible amount of power.
	We've only got 30 seconds left, but I think that's the real Kamalajan.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's the one that's power hungry.
	It's the one that I've been telling you about for the last few weeks, who will sell anybody out so that she can swipe her pen, so she can gain more power.
	That is who she is.
	The podcast is the Happy Women Podcast.
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	That's what we missed on the cruise.
	I know!
	That's what you missed.
	That and Mike Gallagher worried that we were crashing.
	That was the funniest thing ever.
	So we're having an event and we're in the bow of the ship in the theater, all of us with all the listeners.
	And there's this loud noise as we're entering into port.
	And I knew it.
	I'm not a sailor, but I knew it was the stabilizers, because you've got to position this massive ship without crashing.
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	And Mike was crapping himself.
	He was like whispering to me on stage saying, is that an iceberg?
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	I think we're going to sink.
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	But yeah, he was ready to jump.
	He was leaving us behind.
	It's hilarious.
	You hear the band just start playing Nearer, My God to Thee in the background?
	Right, exactly.
	I mean, women like that.
	I mean, that clip of his wife, it's just like... They're wild.
	Oh, the other thing.
	Did you know that Brad Pitt is older than Tim Walz?
	No!
	Yes.
	He's six years older than me and I can't believe it.
	He looks like a mini Bernie Sanders.
	He looks so old.
	He looks old.
	And like the eyebrows.
	I mean.
	Oh yeah.
	The eyebrows.
	Weird.
	Yeah.
	Only a year older than Kamala.
	Come in with nine.
	All right we've got a couple of California stories but we never get around to California stories.
	I was gonna say is there anything happening in California?
	We've been ignoring them too and we're California.
	We had a caller call in the other day, uh, mentioning he was in Orange County.
	He mentioned, uh, how he's supporting, uh, Scott Baugh's congressional campaign.
	That's, uh, Katie Oversee, right?
	Yes.
	And he's got a real shot to, to win too.
	He almost beat her just head to head two years ago.
	Wow.
	So, and it's Orange County, so it's more conservative.
	Who's the guy he's running against now?
	The Dem that's replacing her.
	Oh God.
	And you're going to ask me that?
	I'm all done.
	I wasn't sure if he's an established Dem or not compared to, Wasn't it kind of a big deal when she won the first time?
	Like, people didn't think she was gonna win?
	Yes, she surprised everybody.
	That's why she was a darling.
	Let's see... Uh, it is... Oh, it's Dave Minn.
	He was in the Senate.
	Oh, okay.
	That'll be something.
	Alright, 20 seconds, coming in with 9.
	Alright, here we go.
	She wants no fracking, and she wants no fracking.
	She's trying to say now that she wants—you know, she's gone through every single thing that was a horror show, and she disavows it now.
	She disavows the no fracking.
	If she does no fracking—and she will 100 percent do it.
	One thing I've learned about politicians—and you people knew it maybe before me, but I've known it for a long time.
	Their first thought is the thought that they end up doing.
	She's for no fracking.
	She's for defund the police.
	You know, she's a big—she was the original defunder of the police.
	She was the original no-cash bail, cashless bail, which has caused havoc.
	And look at how she's destroyed San Francisco.
	Wow, President Trump was on fire this morning on Fox & Friends.
	Can she divest herself of her record?
	Can she whitewash what she did as a radical?
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	All right, Jennifer.
	First things first, I need you to help me with this question.
	So they're trying to reinvent themselves, deny their past.
	We know that's what they're going to try and do.
	What is the correct response?
	Because in the last Five days.
	I've come to a kind of epiphany, but I haven't convinced myself of it fully.
	I'm like 90% there.
	That we stop talking about policies and we just dumb it down to the real things that matter the most.
	That we don't have to talk about inflation rates and the Fed and the numbers of illegals.
	Just talk about the price of a pound of bacon.
	Talk about the price of gas.
	Just keep it kitchen table for the next 92 days because that'll have an impact even in the middle.
	Yeah, no, it has to be something that's simple and I totally agree with you.
	I think a lot of times pundits, probably we're even guilty of it every once in a while, you just start throwing these words around and even though you're saying the same thing, it's about a pound of bacon or a dozen eggs, maybe people aren't consuming them the same way.
	I think I've told you this before, but years ago I sat through a talk radio seminar with someone who said if you want to be good at talk radio, you have to keep things relatable for people, right?
	You talk to them, you pretend they're sitting at the table with you, and you focus on the... Do they have seminars for talk radio hosts?
	Yeah.
	I actually had a private one with a show that I used to do.
	It was like a private consultation.
	And actually, I'll give the lady a name check.
	She was great.
	Valerie Geller.
	She's still around.
	She wrote a book on creating powerful radio.
	And so where I really thought that she was on to something, and I attribute a lot of this to what I do, is you pretend someone's sitting at the table with you, just like we pretend voters are sitting at the table with whatever politician is out there, and you talk about health, heart, and pocketbook.
	Those are the things that people will care about every single time.
	And if you create ideas for them that are easily consumable, that can easily be shared, you're doing your job.
	And that's what we really need to talk about.
	Kamala is not going to talk about any issues because she doesn't even know where she stands on them yet.
	Obviously, they're going to create some sort of phony platform that she's going to try to sell that's going to be hokey and, you know, yay America.
	Her website's blank, just like her slate and just like the on the inside of her head.
	So everything's blank right now.
	They'll tell her what to say.
	But here's what people know.
	They saw President Trump.
	They knew they had more money in their pocket.
	They knew they paid less at the gas pump.
	I think some of the stuff that President Trump did that was even most powerful.
	We should be talking about more.
	That's the right to try the right to try different.
	things to save your life, to create a better health, a healthy environment for
	yourself. These are things that really save lives, that helped people, and of
	course the crime issue. And I think we stick to that and it is a winning
	message. So I do agree with you. I think it's about boiling things down to very
	consumable, bite-sized, understandable pieces.
	And what is the correct approach to her?
	Is there any special tack the president should take, or is it like he did with the Biden debate, just, you know, let them hoist themselves on their own petard?
	Look, I think that with Trump, you need to let Trump be Trump to some extent.
	I agree with Jeff in the previous segment.
	We talked about the fact that you've got conservative media pulling their hair out that he's calling names.
	But when it comes down to it, what I think President Trump did against Joe Biden is exactly what he needs to do.
	With Kamala Harris, because guess what?
	They are the same person.
	They stand for the same stuff.
	It's just a different suit.
	So I think he really needs to just continue to do what he was doing and stay the course and not panic.
	I mean, it seems like everybody is just starting to run around.
	We always knew this was going to be close.
	And we all talked about the fact that Joe Biden would not be the nominee.
	So this is not a huge surprise for any of us.
	We're just here.
	So I think we need to put our nose down to the grindstone.
	We need to get busy.
	We need to turn out voters.
	We need to make sure that people understand the issues.
	And it really is simple.
	Did you like what happened four years ago, even with the pandemic?
	Or do you like what Biden and Harris have delivered to you?
	Because it'll be that plus a whole lot more with Tim Walz involved.
	This will be very, very progressive and radical.
	And any special treatment for him?
	I just did a monologue on How does a guy who's been in the National Guard for 25 years visit China every year, live there for a year during the Tiananmen Square Massacre, and have his honeymoon in China?
	How does that happen?
	I think that's a huge story, but what advice do you have?
	Yeah, no, he's literally, he's like a baby Bernie.
	He looks like Bernie Sanders.
	Bernie goes to Russia, he goes to China.
	I mean, these guys are two peas in the pod.
	And by the way, Tim Walz actually endorsed Bernie Sanders.
	I think with Tim Walz, we need to point out that he has been wrong on every single issue.
	He wants to buy ladders for people that want to cross the border.
	He wants to be in bed with China.
	And he wants to let police precincts burn down.
	And by the way, he doesn't just want to, he does.
	He did.
	He let it go.
	For the social issues, he's going to totally take away parents' rights, and I think that's an issue as well.
	You don't get to put feminine hygiene products into men's rooms and think that that's a great use of taxpayer dollars.
	People are smarter than that.
	Yeah, they can't whitewash it, they can try, but I tell you right now, the story with regards
	to his...
	Because it's not just Walz that has these decades-long ties to China.
	It's also Doug Emhoff.
	Look into Doug Emhoff's law firm that advertises themselves as the premier law firm doing business
	with China and representing US companies in China.
	This story is going to be huge.
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	Right?
	What is that flakism?
	I mean, really?
	Is he going to the dog psychic for a checkup?
	He's going to the dog psychic.
	Tomorrow he's gonna be gone.
	Friday he's gonna be gone.
	So yeah, he's going to Cabo tomorrow.
	He had a court date with a special lady friend this week and so that's where he disappeared.
	You know, it's a nice life if you can get it.
	Just kind of coming and going.
	So I looked this woman's book up.
	So this woman is good?
	The powerful radio woman?
	Oh, Valerie Geller, yeah, she's very sweet.
	She's very good.
	The book is good, too.
	I mean, you already know this stuff, but, you know.
	Yeah, but I didn't learn any of it.
	I'm just curious to see what they say.
	Yeah.
	I haven't read—she just redid it for podcasting, too.
	I haven't reread it since then, but she was—the three things, okay, that she told me, and I probably already have said them.
	You said health, heart, and pocketbook.
	Yeah, so she said you will always keep people engaged if you focus on their health, their heart, or their pocketbook.
	So how can you emotionally connect with people basically?
	She said pretend you're sitting at a kitchen table and look at a chair when you're doing radio so that you're actually pretending that there's someone there that you're engaging so that we're not just looking at a microphone.
	And then she said don't, when you, and I really try to do this, when you're talking to people use the word You instead of I. So can you imagine being in so-and-so instead of saying, hey, I was just walking down the street to the store.
	So drawing people in by using you instead of I. So those are the three big things that I took away from her, but I thought they were helpful.
	So yeah, there you go.
	And if you have a word that you think you say too much, you write it on a post-it note and stick it in front of you.
	I do that too when I have crutch words.
	That's clever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So anyway.
	All right, you guys.
	Well, enjoy that.
	That was fun.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	It was fun.
	All right.
	See you guys later.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Just forget it because you can't hear it.
	What?
	It's a Tom Hanks thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because it's all in Tom Hanks.
	Too loud.
	It's slow and loud.
	Yeah.
	They posted a still image of him walking like all the Secret Service everyone walking around him like a big entourage.
	He said, this entourage remake looks great.
	Do you have the cut?
	Can I just hear it?
	You think Trump's Secret Service is bad?
	Look at his protection.
	Really?
	Oh, goodness.
	Why?
	A little short, a little chubby.
	Are you serious?
	Yeah, look.
	Alright, one second.
	I figured I'd come by and one, just get a good look at the plane.
	Hopefully it's going to be my plane in a few months, but I also thought you guys might get lonely because the Vice President doesn't answer questions from reporters and hasn't for 17 days.
	Have they given you guys an explanation for why she won't take questions from reporters?
	No?
	Nobody?
	Okay, great.
	Well, I hope that you changed your mind because it'd be good for the American people, and I think it'd be good for you all if she actually ran a real campaign instead of one from a basement with a teleprompter.
	So, have a good one, guys.
	See ya.
	That's actually good.
	Come in with it, and then Jeff, you'll explain it, and then I'll make comments.
	That woman can't even button her bloody jacket on.
	Tell me that's not the same woman from Butler.
	No, no.
	She looks very similar.
	Believe me, there's tons of them.
	And the guy on the right looks very old, too.
	At least he's got a nice new suit.
	Did you notice?
	JD's got a nice new suit.
	Ooh!
	I did not notice.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Coming with that and then pillow.
	You You
	You You
	you you
	you you
	You You
	You I figured I'd come by and one, just get a good look at the plane.
	Hopefully it's going to be my plane in a few months, but I also thought you guys might get lonely because the Vice President doesn't answer questions from reporters and hasn't for 17 days.
	Have they given you guys an explanation for why she won't take questions from reporters?
	No?
	Nobody?
	Okay, great.
	Well, I hope that she changes her mind because it'd be good for the American people and I think it'd be good for you all if she actually ran a real campaign instead of one from a basement with a teleprompter.
	So, have a good one guys.
	See ya.
	It's a little noisy in here because it's on the tarmac.
	Mr. G, you just found that.
	Who's that talking?
	Where is he?
	Where did he try to get on?
	And who's he talking to?
	Because that was really quite fun.
	That is JD Vance and he's trying to get on Air Force Two because I guess Kamala is there as well.
	And he's saying that he's going to check out the plane because it's going to be his in a couple of months.
	And then who's he talking to?
	Because he walks up to a gaggle of people.
	Who's he talking to?
	He's talking to the media.
	And he's saying what?
	He's saying, uh, why don't you ask her some questions because she's hiding in the basement.
	Yeah, and he did it yesterday, which is good.
	This is unbelievable.
	The fact that she has not answered questions, it blows my mind.
	Oh, come on.
	It's been 18 days.
	I mean, come on.
	I mean, are you in a hurry?
	It's been 18 days.
	This is the most ridiculous campaign I could ever even imagine seeing in my life, let alone seen.
	But hang on.
	I mean, look, you must have gone to the Kamala campaign website and seen the complete lack of any policies.
	Well, there's a lot of spots where you could donate.
	I saw that.
	And then it talks about how you can vote by mail.
	Other than that, nothing.
	What, nothing?
	No policies?
	No, not at all.
	Wow.
	Oh hang on, because she's too busy being the Borders are, right?
	No, I think it's like Pelosi, she said about that bill, you gotta vote for her to find out what she'll do.
	It's like the mystery candidate.
	You gotta elect her after she's been selected to find out what kind of a president she'd be.
	Yeah, I'm intrigued.
	I might vote for her just to see what she's gonna do.
	There's funny, and then there's provocative, Mr. G. Just you behave.
	We're gonna go to your calls momentarily.
	Uh, Rowlene, I think, in Louisiana, but first, in case you missed it, I mentioned it, uh, previously.
	If, if the, I'm gonna go get me a beer, and the, um, uh, Obama-Kamala calls weren't, uh, embarrassing enough, we're gonna pot it up a bit, because it's a little bit quiet.
	This is Kamala's husband, Doug Emhoff, who has his own, mm-hmm, Intimate ties to China.
	Talking to Tim Waltz's wife, Gwen, and it's as bad as you think.
	Hello?
	Gwen?
	Yes?
	It's Doug Emhoff.
	How are you?
	Oh!
	Holy smokes!
	Right!
	And thank you for taking time to call.
	It's so considerate of you.
	So, Gwen, I remember getting this call four years ago.
	And I actually know what you're going through right now, but the good news is I've already been through it.
	So just like Dr. Biden was there for me, who had been through it, and I've been through it, I'm going to be there for you.
	And we're going to do this together.
	Thank you.
	And Paula and Tim are going to do this together, and we are going to win this election together.
	And I cannot wait to see you in Philadelphia in a little bit.
	Well, we are so excited.
	Okay, enough.
	Get rid of it.
	Enough.
	Dr. Jill.
	Dr. Jill.
	And Jeff, if you're the woman who has said, I love the smell of burning tires when the cities are burning down, you probably shouldn't say hello by saying holy smokes.
	No, that's scripted.
	That's part of the whole thing that she's the folksy, rural lady.
	That was written.
	The Holy Smokes.
	The Holy Smokes as well.
	Yes.
	Unbelievable.
	Waiting patiently in Louisiana.
	Rolene.
	Yes, sir?
	Hi, what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Well, my comment is I love President Trump.
	I follow everything that I can see.
	And I watch all of the ads and stuff.
	And the thing I would really like for you to do, or if you can get it to him, they ask Were you better off four years ago?
	Yes, correct.
	Of course we are.
	Look at where you're at now.
	And the question and the advertisement I would like him to do is, what future are you building for your children, your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren?
	I'm 73 years old.
	I'm worried about me.
	I watch my children struggle.
	I have nine grandchildren.
	I've got seven great-grandchildren.
	I want a future for them.
	And I think that would appeal to just about everybody, because the ones that are struggling, whether you're a Republican or you're a Democrat, it's the same thing.
	What future?
	Do you want for your children?
	It's great.
	It's great.
	I think we do a combination with your permission.
	I think we do both things.
	We do, were you better off?
	Are you better off than you were four years ago?
	And then we talk about the future.
	I was in communications with Mar-a-Lago this morning.
	So that's wonderful.
	Stay on the line.
	Jeff, let Rolene choose what she wants, whether it's the Butler t-shirt, President Trump in Butler after he was shot, whether it's the Kamala Biden t-shirt or something else in one of my books.
	That's such a good call.
	I want her to choose.
	God bless you, Rolene.
	Wow, you guys, you're the best.
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	She wants no fracking, and she wants no fracking.
	She's trying to say now that she wants—you know, she's gone through every single thing that was a horror show, and she disavows it now.
	She disavows the no fracking.
	If she does no fracking—and she will 100 percent do it.
	One thing I've learned about politicians—and you people knew it maybe before me, but I've known it for a long time.
	Their first thought is the thought that they end up doing.
	She's for no fracking.
	She's for defund the police.
	You know, she's a big—she was the original defunder of the police.
	She was the original no-cash bail, cashless bail, which has caused havoc.
	And look at how she's destroyed San Francisco.
	The president on fire this morning, Fox & Friends, talking about the original defunder police icon that is Kamala Harris.
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	What do we do with all the gaslighting?
	It is beyond human comprehension.
	Let's ask a man who knows a little bit about communications.
	He's the smartest dressed individual in the Trump camp, after a certain person with a very cool accent.
	He is, right now, the vice chair of the Center for Election Integrity, former national press secretary for the Trump campaign, Hogan Gidley, in a lovely, lovely chalk stripe there, looking very sharp as usual, my friend.
	Thank you very much, Seb.
	Always great to be with you.
	All right, so I'm kind of at a loss here, because I have fun.
	I do this three hours a day.
	We push back.
	You push back.
	But it's got to a level where you can't even put it into a box or a category.
	So they've thrown the Jew under the bus.
	First, they stab Bibi in the back.
	That's what Kamala did with his address to Congress.
	Then it's the Pennsylvania governor.
	Oh, I want him to be the Veep.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, he's Jewish, so let's get rid of him.
	Now it's Tim Walz who presided over the ransacking of his state.
	The arson that he said was, oh, a seminal moment and his wife loved the smell of burning tires.
	This is what he said yesterday with regards to crime in America and who's responsible.
	Cut six.
	He froze in the face of the COVID crisis.
	He drove our economy into the ground.
	And make no mistake, violent crime was up under Donald Trump.
	That's not even counting the crimes he committed.
	So So, what do we do with an audience that actually claps like seals when they hear a guy say, crime was up under President Trump?
	I mean, it's just kind of beggars belief, really, Hogan.
	Well, it's up 132% in his home state of Minnesota.
	He fiddled while his estate burned to the ground and, of course, endorsed those who did the burning.
	Kamala Harris was right there beside him, of course, to bail out the ones who destroyed people's businesses.
	Didn't raise money for those who lost everything.
	Didn't raise any money for the black businesses that were destroyed.
	No, no.
	We're just going to raise money for those who caused all of the destruction.
	Kamala Harris is more radical than Joe Biden and less likable.
	And for all this talk—and Trump talked about it on Fox & Friends, you played it—of this moderation we were going to see from Kamala Harris, all of these things are coming out via surrogates, unnamed surrogates.
	She's not confirmed a single switch in all of her positions, which, by the way, happened Miraculously, three weeks ago—I wonder what happened three weeks ago, because she's had all these her entire political career—and when we thought Shapiro was going to be the vice presidential pick, it would be an exclamation point on the, I told you I've moderated statement.
	Instead, she returned back to her roots, where her heart truly is, the most radical positions of any presidential candidate in presidential history.
	The American people reject all of these things.
	And Tim Walz, oddly enough, If you could put a wish list for crazy radicals like Kamala Harris to go down and say, defund the police, open up the borders, give free money to illegal aliens to go to college, free money to illegal aliens to go to
	To get everything they want from health care, transing all of our kids, whatever the radical position is, Tim Walz actually did those things in Minnesota.
	So he is the personification, the victory of all the bad policies.
	She selected him.
	Now we have to make her live with that selection.
	Every major issue facing this country right now where Donald Trump leads from a policy standpoint on the economy, on crime, on the southern border, She is on the wrong side of all of those things, and we have to keep pointing that out from now until November.
	Can she keep hiding?
	We played the hilarious clip of J.D.
	Vance going up to Air Force Two trying to get a word in with the woman who's hiding.
	Is she going to debate the boss?
	What's your prediction, Hogan?
	Well, I will tell you, can she keep hiding?
	If only the media lets her hide.
	But remember, they did this with Joe Biden.
	And lest you forget how powerful they are.
	They covered for Joe Biden in the 2020 campaign, you know, that basement strategy.
	They carried his water while he was president.
	Then they mobilized to get a sitting president who has been in politics for half of a century to step down and not run again.
	That's how powerful they are.
	And now you're seeing 17 days in, she's not had to answer a single question at all to the media, and they're not going to hold her feet to the fire.
	They're not going to ask her serious questions.
	They're going to let her go about her merry way.
	That's why if Donald Trump does debate her, it will be the first time I think the American people see really how unlikable Kamala Harris is.
	And how radical her policies are.
	So if they're going to debate, I think Trump will debate her.
	I think that is going to be must-see television.
	Because the more you see of Kamala Harris, the less you like her.
	We can't wait.
	It should be pay-per-view.
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	Oh, um, cut 20.
	What's cut 20?
	The Kamala voters.
	Oh my gosh!
	Yes, campus reform.
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	And title for Hogan.
	Kamala can't hide forever Jeff think about what makes it easier for you guys because
	Jim's out of town on the 16th All right, let me think.
	Slickter might not be bad.
	Yeah, but he's not in town.
	You want somebody who's in studio, don't you?
	That helps, but I'm trying to think about that.
	But Slickter doesn't take calls, so that helps too.
	I'm just thinking one thing.
	Oh, okay.
	Hanson was good because all the guests would be in here.
	So that way you're not running the board and over here trying to connect guests and all that stuff.
	And he barely uses cuts too.
	But Slickter doesn't, yeah, so he would be easy too.
	He just talks for three hours?
	No, he has guests a lot.
	He'll do like a mono and then like guess.
	Although he was very mild-mannered today.
	Sheesh, I'm going to war, aren't I?
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	Especially when you ask young people, especially women, why they love Kamala so much.
	This is from Campus Reform and it is priceless.
	Cut 20.
	What do you think of her?
	Is she doing a good job in office?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I really like her.
	Great representation.
	I feel like definitely it's amazing to have a woman vice president.
	Pretty solid job.
	I really do agree with a lot of the policies she's been putting out and I think she's a great vice president.
	What policies specifically do you agree with?
	I don't really know.
	Can you tell me some?
	Maybe I don't know what her policies are.
	Can you name any specific accomplishments that you're super proud of?
	Off the top of my head, I can't think of many of them.
	I can't really, to be totally honest.
	What I really like is that she does kind of give the nation a positive face, being the first woman president.
	No, not any specific ones particularly, no.
	Then what do you like about her?
	Just, I think she's doing a good job.
	What specifically do you like about her?
	Jeff I think that clip is like so huge because you only have to ask one question
	I don't know if you got the answer.
	What do you do with that politically?
	If people, I mean, that's a cult.
	She's great.
	I don't know why, but she's great.
	What does that mean for November 5th?
	It's very depressing as I'm just thinking about how their vote counts as much as mine when I was watching that the whole time.
	But what is our response to that?
	Is it the attack ads?
	Because these people love her.
	Why?
	Because of which sexual organs she has and her skin color.
	That's it.
	I think the response is, and it should just be, I think you just start running against the media, aren't you?
	The media picked Biden.
	Are you going to let them pick again?
	Look at the last four years.
	I would just start everything they're telling you.
	They told us about Biden.
	Look what happened the last four years.
	So like, the message should be, they conned you four years ago, are you gonna let them con you now?
	Yeah, I think we're done letting the news pick candidates.
	Interesting.
	Do you remember Ted Kaczynski?
	Do you remember the Unabomber?
	We're gonna give you a very special take on him next.
	One-on-one.
	Stay here on America First.
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	♪♪♪ Well, I never thought I'd be doing this on my show,
	America First, especially dedicating the whole hour of the deep dive one-on-one to this question.
	When I taught counter-terrorism and irregular warfare, in addition to all the jihadis and the Marxists, the Red Army Faction, Baader-Meinhof, Al-Qaeda, I also use the Unabomber as a case study of how not to try and track down somebody, and how not to publish their manifesto.
	And our regular guest has just published a fascinating video, and the title isn't clickbaity at all, because he does answer the question, was the Unabomber right?
	And we're going to dissect it with our audience here on America First with our dear friend Rudyard Lynch of the What If Altist YouTube channel.
	Rudyard, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	It's a pleasure as always.
	So I think let's just start with the conventional wisdom with regard to this domestic terrorist who was a lone wolf actor.
	Super smart guy, mathematician, I think went to MIT.
	Off the charts in terms of his IQ.
	Then started in the late 70s all the way through to the 90s sending basically pipe bombs To companies, to airline companies, and to university research centers.
	That's why he was termed by the FBI the Unabomber.
	Universities, airline companies, the Unabomber.
	Ended up wounding over 20 and killing three.
	And we finally get him apprehended thanks to his brother recognizing his style of writing in the manifesto that he managed, shockingly, to get ...the broadsheet newspapers in America to publish.
	That led to his eventual arrest, and I think just recently, maybe last year, he committed suicide in a federal prison.
	The conventional wisdom has it, Radyad, that this individual was a neo-Luddite.
	Just hated technology in general.
	That's why he went to live in a forest, in a shack, in the middle of nowhere.
	But your analysis is far deeper with regards to at least the diagnosis he had of modern society, not the correct response by sending out letter bombs.
	But let's start with, I'm curious, why did you choose Ted Kaczynski as the subject of your latest excellent video?
	I'm 23 years old, which means I'm in an interesting time frame as it relates to the Unabomber, where when I was a child, it was just automatically assumed that he was a madman.
	And then, as I grew older, there started to be this faction of young men, a very large group actually, who call him colloquially Uncle Ted.
	And There is this group among young men on the new right who basically back the opposite of whatever the traditional neoliberal narrative on any given topic is.
	And that can end up in kind of nasty places, like Holocaust denial, and it can end up in better places, like questioning the managerial regime.
	And so that's what happens with With the Unabomber, where there's a large demographic of people who felt dissatisfied with industrial civilizations, they went back through it.
	And that's where my analysis comes from, because this is something that I've seen fomenting on the internet for a long time, that's been bubbling up under the surface.
	Let's unpack it with regards to one sentence you use at the beginning of the video, which is fascinating, where You said you played the mind game.
	How would you describe the current state of our civilization in American society to yourself as a child 10 or 15 years ago?
	How would you do that?
	Which dystopia are we?
	Are we more old as Huxley than Orwell?
	So what would that exercise have led you to say to your younger self?
	What I said in the video, and this is something I've said about half a dozen times on the channel, is that we live... The only way I could explain the world you and I live in today to the version of myself that's 10 years younger, or even in high school, I would say that we live in a science fiction dystopia.
	I'm going to explain that further, but the most important point, I would say, is that we live in a pretty lame sci-fi dystopia.
	Because what you find with all sci-fi dystopias is the author wants to make it interesting.
	So the author makes the Orwellian regime have these giant ministries of truth and these giant ministries of peace, or Brave New World, it's this insanely over-the-top society.
	And one of my friends once said, our dystopia is this very, uh, He basically said, if lame, corporate bureaucrats won, where imagine a society, the most boring pencil pusher you knew in high school took over everything.
	And it's really remarkable to see where it's a very muted dystopia and everything in our society is very muted.
	And one of my friends called our society a cargo cult.
	And it's a cargo cult based around worshiping The cultural forms of mid-century America where we hold on to Star Wars and blue jeans and like musical, basically black music from the middle of the last century and
	All the movies, and the fashion, and the culture.
	And we haven't really culturally innovated since the post-World War II era.
	But we're holding on to this cargo from that time period.
	And to be brutally honest, mid 20th century America was not one of the cultural heights of Western civilization.
	It was pretty good.
	But if you could hold on to the Italian Renaissance for that much time, there would still be milk to have.
	And so we are this very lame, this very corporate, this very sterilized dystopia.
	And I was thinking about C.S. Lewis yesterday, where C.S. Lewis said,
	the great evils of the future will be done in men, with men behind desks wearing suits.
	And so whenever we wanna do something evil, and I think the things the left does today
	are objectively evil, they couch it in some new terminology
	so it's suddenly morally progressive.
	And so a witch burning isn't a witch burning, it's cancelling.
	Shutting down dissent is anti-information.
	I'm reading Solzhenitsyn now, and he's one of the best authors I've ever read.
	And the thing that really shocks me is The depths of pettiness that you see on the left.
	And I see a lot of continuity between the left Solzhenitsyn talks about and the left today, which is the video I just wrote.
	But an important level of the dystopia is just the sheer pettiness of the people involved.
	Because when you look at how the left runs society, there's no grand vision.
	There's no underlying greatness behind it.
	It's just this slow moving It's just this slow-moving machine enviously destroying good things.
	And you said, are we more Orwell or are we more Huxley?
	And I think...
	I can't really say.
	I think we're slightly more Huxley, but I think there's elements of both.
	I agree.
	I think we're leaning towards Huxley.
	What you've just described, in shorthand, I term it the tyranny of mediocrity.
	It's not the great brains.
	It's not the Blofelds of the world.
	It's truly small-minded mediocrities that are driving this dystopian future.
	I don't want to go down a rabbit hole, but you mentioned this idea that lack of innovation, we're stuck in the memes or the cultural, you know, memes of the 1950s.
	Do you also subscribe to this idea, I heard Peter Thiel say, that it's not just lack of innovation in culture, basically in science there's been no innovation for at least 60 years?
	Yes, that is basically true, where the computer revolution occurred around World War II, and genetic engineering was a discovery of the Great Depression era.
	We have maxed out the cultural discoveries of that.
	We have maxed out the conclusions of the breakthroughs in different scientific disciplines that occurred around the 19th century or the World Wars.
	We haven't really made an intellectual breakthrough in of itself since that time period.
	And I consistently find with academia today, if you posit a field independent from what they believe in, it's immediate cancellation.
	And it's not even stuff relating to the taboo topics like race or sex.
	It's stuff like you can't use the cycles of history to study how politics works.
	You can't Like, if you go against mainstream physics, that's taboo.
	Academia has really become this orthodoxy that exists to basically push the class interests of the academics, where the academics have developed, these are the topics that if we agree to them, can give our social class the highest amount of power, and thus we will create a sort of strike.
	So that anyone who deviates from said topics will be blackballed by our entire cast.
	Yeah.
	Utterly, utterly.
	And the so-called academic journals and peer review are just the ways to keep that iron ring closed to anybody who challenges the orthodoxy.
	We're talking to Rudyard Lynch, host of the superb What If Alt Hist YouTube channel.
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	Alright, gotta go back to my notes.
	I always make copious notes before our meetings and as I'm watching your videos.
	On the diagnosis, Ted Kaczynski, this man who, I think, am I right, was at MIT he went to, was involved in some of the very dubious, problematic experiments funded by the CIA, which clearly had an effect on him.
	You say that he likely suffered from PTSD.
	This is an individual who, on the bell curve of IQ, Was what, over 160 or something, Rudyard?
	Yeah, he was 167th.
	And the way IQ bell curves work...
	He, that definitely, that's in the beyond the 1000th percentile.
	Yeah.
	So super smart, super smart guy.
	Let's talk about a phrase or a concept you discuss again and again and again in your latest video.
	What is over socialization?
	What does that mean?
	And how does it tie into this interesting concept that for me kind of echoes the platonic cave analogy?
	of the real world being filled with just abstractions of what should be.
	So let's start with over socialization.
	What is that?
	I'm very glad that you brought up Plato there because I was going to hook it back to ancient philosophy
	too where the reason that Christianity prizes the Trinity
	and actually one of the things that I like the most about Christianity is the Trinity
	because all things exist within the duality and if you get the duality right,
	you can get a better option.
	And so, there's this duality between civilization and barbarism, and Barbarism, if you push it too far, your people basically become savages who can't do anything.
	And then civilization, it's the opposite.
	You actually, ironically, end up in comparable places when you push too far in one of either directions, which is why you can strangely see lots of cultural similarities between the very left—there's a lot of anthropological similarities between very left-wing people and primitive tribes in places like the Amazon.
	So if you push civilization too far, you end up with the inability to do anything.
	And so this is why, over history, you see the consistent pattern of a strong people emerges, they form an empire, they grow wealthy, the empire grows weak.
	New tribe emerges, restarts the process.
	Let me just drill down on that a little bit, because that mechanism wasn't made explicit in your video, but I think I saw an analogy.
	So, when civilization, you know, sending kids to school, the nine-to-five, when that becomes the be-all and end-all, the socialization of the individual unit, What you're basically creating is a drone structure and anything that challenges that Individual thought initiative and so forth is a threat to that what has really become Just a mechanism for the creation of more drones.
	Is it is what you're saying the over socialization that basically Western civilization has become like a beehive and Yes, exactly.
	A few days ago I just finished reading Oren MacIntyre's The Total State, which I would highly recommend.
	I think it's one of the best conservative books written in the last 30 years.
	And the thesis of that book is that there is a differentiation between the kinds of people who are good at running systems and the kind of people who are good at building systems.
	There's a very common historic pattern where an empire in decline will be run by a child emperor or an old fool, and then they are surrounded by bureaucrats, eunuchs, and harem girls.
	I will not draw the parallel because I think you guys see it already.
	And so the problem is that if you build a structure, those kinds of people are the people who are very good at taking control of the structure.
	And I'm sure a lot of you have worked in corporate America, and the people who are really good at climbing the office politics, sucking up to their boss, getting the reports in correctly, are not the kinds of people who would have gone down the Amazon and who would have built the first factories.
	And the kinds of people who are the innovators, who are the creatives, they are not the kinds of people who are good at doing the boring tasks of maintaining structure.
	And so what happened with modernity is that the incentive structure towards compliance in the system grew so great so that The system shut down anything that wasn't itself, if that makes sense.
	And so this is, again, I'm going to lead it back to the Oren McIntyre book, where he talks about this very brilliantly, where the globalist elite, and this is a topic I think conservatives, we need to dig in deeply about, that there is this elite that views us with complete contempt and wants to destroy our society, and they're in power.
	And this globalist elite, their aim is to use social engineering to completely wipe out all their opponents.
	and they do it indirectly because they don't like using physical force. And so this globalist
	industrial elite, it uses the education system, it uses the media, it uses social pressure through
	corporations, and the ultimate aim is to rub off the human condition so that the only thing that
	remains is a cog. And if you look at the World Economic Forum types, this is basically what
	they say they want to do. Yeah, you will own nothing and you will enjoy it.
	We'll talk about all the inherent paradoxes that entails, but that...
	Universal emphasis on compliance and drone-like behavior actually punishes and kills the type of actor that is essential to the creation and the success of civilization.
	So, you know, the explorer, the adventurer, the inventor, that's like Like an infection that has to be expelled by the antibodies, because all we want is drones, we want compliance, we want the person in that cubicle, and as a result, the civilization creates potentially its own downfall, because those with the ideas, you know, Peter Thiel and Elon Musk do not function in cubicles.
	It's the antithesis of how they function.
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	Let's talk about how different modern society is and where you know the Kaczynski critique
	really comes in with regards to until
	the modern age the unit for all society was the family and
	And he...
	Even as a business and you had to care for each other.
	There was a CEO, there was the father, the mother provided in terms of care and feeding and even education.
	Explain to us the role of family as was and what did you call it?
	The devil in modernity.
	The fact that today Family, really?
	It is a husk in comparison to how it was.
	I've developed an acronym called SAW, and SAW is an abbreviation for Studies in Ancient Wisdom, and the purpose of this acronym is to show that There is a remarkable unity between what recent scientific studies say, as in the last 20-something years, and what the ancient folk wisdom and world religions have taught forever.
	And something that is difficult for audio today to understand, but which the evidence is basically completely irrefutable for at this point, is that the 20th century is a bizarre aberration which believed lots of insane things.
	And The sooner you come to the realization of that, it just changes how you see the entire equation.
	And that's true across a dozen different things.
	It's true about how we see religion, it's true about how we see family, which I'll get to soon, how we see community, how we see our role in society, about a dozen things.
	And with the family, what Again, to pull from Saw, this is what previous societies, and especially the philosopher Confucius, alongside what modern studies say, that the family imprints people's comprehension of what the world is onto them.
	Because when children grow up, the family is the first comprehension they have of how the world works.
	And so Interestingly, and this is all pulling from Todd Emanuel's work, that you can predict the government system a society has and how its religion works based off the authority fathers have in that society.
	And in the pre-industrial world, a very important point I want to tap into is that in the pre-industrial world, everything was an interpersonal relationship.
	In today, everything is a bureaucracy, where The way the pre-industrial world worked is that you had your community, you had your family, you had your tribe, nation, etc., and then this provided your welfare, it provided your economics, it provided your military protection, your religion, your fun, and so
	If you were a person of this time period, this system seemed completely intuitive, and the idea of not having it seemed insane.
	And for most societies in history—and Christian Western Europe was more moderate than almost anyone else on this, where Europe got rid of arranged marriages a thousand years ago, except for the aristocracy—but For most societies in history, your family, your dad is your boss.
	The family is the economic unit.
	Your family provides your insurance in case you have an issue or you get sick.
	Your family protects you, where in most societies in history, if a bandit steals your stuff, it's the responsibility of your cousins and your family to beat up the bandit.
	And so this is why social class was so important to previous societies, because the people of your social class Did everything for you.
	And it also explains why in the Western world today, the government makes up between half to two thirds of the total GDP of the country.
	And this is something I keep on saying to conservatives.
	We are not in capitalism anymore.
	If the government's half of the GDP, we're in some weird mix between capitalism and socialism.
	But in the pre-industrial world, the government wasn't in one to 5% of the total economy.
	The government was a judge in the military.
	And so Moving from this pre-industrial structure to this modern structure, what you saw was the replacement of these interpersonal bonds with bureaucracy.
	Because every service I provided, I spoke of before, is now done by a bureaucracy.
	And this is why the left thinks we can use bureaucracy to reach utopia, because intuitively,
	their sense of the world is that the bureaucracy can do anything, because from their personal
	lives, the bureaucracy raises you as a child, it gives you your work, it gives you insurance,
	it protects you, it gives you medicine.
	And it's not a coincidence that we are a society, through the school system, raises people with
	bureaucracy and then people grow up to believe that the bureaucracy is their family, that
	the bureaucracy is the thing that they should trust to do everything for them.
	Yeah, fascinating.
	Absolutely fascinating.
	To continue on that vein of how the family is replaced, just a couple of observations from your video that should be obvious, but I don't think are obvious.
	Public schooling really doesn't leave you much that you require later in life.
	But trained you to do what?
	To sit down for eight hours quietly and prepares you for the drone work of an office worker.
	And then another observation you made that I found so compelling is when you're in a family unit and the family unit is the economic unit and you're not working for somebody else, Then you have to invest in the spouse.
	You have to invest in the child.
	You actually have deep relationships.
	Nowadays, the time with the spouse is when you're tired after you got home from work, and the rest of the day you're doing what?
	Trying to please your boss.
	The working woman is pleasing a stranger.
	The working husband is pleasing another stranger, which of course undermines the cohesion of the family unit.
	And then of course, as you said, the bureaucracy fills the vacuum of what is meant to be meaningful.
	Let's return to the trigger for our discussion, which is the domestic terrorist Ted Kaczynski's
	manifesto and his analysis, but especially a part of it that you found so compelling,
	not the call to violence, but will you explain Ted Kaczynski's critique of the left?
	You said in your video it's one of the most powerful critiques of modern left-wing politics
	you've ever seen and how it helps us to understand human resentment to over socialization.
	So what was Kaczynski right about when he discussed the left, Radyad?
	Bye.
	Yeah, he was definitely right about this really right and the the thing with Kaczynski and the left is I think that he got this the most right of anyone and I find it funny that a poll has made the best criticism of communism ever.
	I think that's just that's ethnic revenge and And his criticism of it, because keep in mind, you do have some previous communist movements in history.
	You had some with the Muslims a thousand years ago, the Greeks had some, and they all occur at roughly the same civilizational point that we are, except ours is much worse.
	It's once you develop the big empires and the big economies of scale, and One of the best principles I've learned is that when the left says something, assume that they actually—in the video I just finished writing yesterday, it's the anthropology of the left.
	The video I finished writing yesterday and the video I'm going to write next week is the anthropology of the left followed by the right.
	And so, when you look at the left, what's the opposite of what they're saying?
	Because once you realize literally everything the left says is projection, their worldview makes tremendous sense, but it's horrifying.
	Where everything in the left is based around the growth of power.
	Where every single thing a left-winger says is translated to, give me more power.
	And I really love the phrase, a system's purpose is what it does.
	With the left, they talk about the dictatorship of the proletariat, and they don't have a better plan, because their goal is to make the dictatorship, where the left is a power fantasy, where it's, I will couch my desire for inchoate power and hatred of everything, because if you look at how the left operates, and this is something Kaczynski spoke about very deeply, is he said, if the left genuinely cared about helping black people or women, They would not act the way they do, because whenever you see what the left does, they always make every single group who they are supposedly championing vastly worse.
	They turned the Russian and Chinese peasants into slaves.
	They gave women the worst mental health in history.
	They made the black community fall apart into crime and drugs and Social breakdown and so it's clear that the thing they are pushing for is not their ultimate goal What the left always does do though is give themselves more power.
	And so this is some Weird psychological balance where if you treat people like cogs or ants then the natural outcome is that they have a Insane power fantasies and then those power fantasies take over society and then burn the society down and so that was what Kaczynski criticism of the left was.
	And through all of this is this thread of unmitigated paradox and contradiction because they preach liberation all the time and as they preach liberation they're actually affecting suppression.
	Yes.
	There's a point I've been mulling on for about two months, and what that point is, is the left is so crazy that it makes anyone else who realizes how crazy they are feel crazy.
	It's this weird technique.
	The left is so absolutely insane that a normal person who realizes how insane they are thinks to themselves, no, they can't be that crazy.
	The people in charge of us can't be that crazy.
	And it's this weird form of jujitsu where And this would totally make sense if you had a stronger religion, where if we were in the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church would immediately smell this out, and they'd say,
	Knowing what we do about human nature and about God and good and evil, these people are playing this mental game.
	But because we lost that sense of wisdom that comes from religion, we can't pick up what they're doing.
	And so the left, the left is really brilliant at this.
	It's one of the things where it's genuinely impressive.
	But it's not really a function of brilliance.
	It's just a dogged determination because everything they do is gaslighting.
	Everything they do.
	So, I mean, the degree to which they gaslight the population is brilliant, I think.
	Marx dropped thousands of pages on trying how to manipulate the population.
	Once they use the power, it completely fails.
	They have no comprehension of who they are or what they're doing.
	They gaslight themselves as much as they gaslight others.
	And with Marx, Yeah, so their strategy is they always create these incredibly complex mental paradoxes that if you're a normal person just going through your life, you don't have the mental tools or the mental effort to figure it out.
	So you just go with what their face is.
	Or if you don't have that...
	Moral and transubstantial, transcendental compass of a faith, for example, that can help you say, hang on a second, that's complete garbage!
	Then you're kind of lost, and what do you do?
	You doubt yourself.
	This is why this man's channel is so superb.
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	All right, we've only got three minutes left, as we always do at the end of the hour.
	If you want to go deeper into all of the things we discussed, you have to read Katie's book, along with Mike Gonzalez, Next-Gen Marxism, What It Is and How to Combat It.
	That's Next-Gen Marxism, What It Is and How to Combat It.
	If you want to have a little bit of Uplifting experience.
	Katie's new podcast with Jennifer Horne is the Happy Women podcast and you don't even have to be a member of the Fairer Sex to listen.
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	And then what are you going to be smoking as you read the book and listen to the podcast?
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	He deserved to go to prison for the rest of his life.
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	So Ted Kaczynski was a terrorist.
	He deserved to go to prison for the rest of his life.
	Killed three people, maimed almost two dozen.
	However, his analysis of where we are today as a society may have been accurate.
	So how do we proceed in ways that are not terroristic?
	Or do we just expect, Radyard, that the all-pervasive, inherent contradictions of the left, the calls for liberation whilst they want cogs that are suppressed, will lead to its collapse?
	Or is the damage they will do to civilization too great?
	What is the correct, non-Ted Kaczynski response?
	That's a great question, and that's a very good question to end on.
	I find that whenever you see something for what it is, you should do a Sun Tzu jiu-jitsu move, where everything has balance, and so when you find something, you can figure out what the other side of it is.
	And so try to figure out what is the natural weakness of whatever thing you're going to fight, and how do you push it to the level where it falls apart?
	We're in a very lucky place where the left wants to kill itself.
	Just look at wokeness.
	So how do we get to the place where the left does that naturally without taking our entire civilization with it?
	And I think I posit at the end of that video that The thing Kaczynski didn't account for is the internet, where the internet, if it's used correctly, has the potential to override everything Kaczynski said.
	Where the internet allows decentralized communication, which co-ops every single point Kaczynski says about the scale of industrial civilization.
	What you would need, though, is to structure the internet so that Governments can't use it for data harvesting.
	It wouldn't surprise me if this already exists.
	If governments can use AI to monitor the population and look through these telescreens, we are not free.
	Otherwise, the internet does allow decentralization.
	I frequently say that The biggest thing conservatism needs now is ideas, because conservatism, we have a lot of dynamic people, we have lots of popular support, but we don't know what to do with it.
	And I think if adjusted, Kaczynski's message is very applicable with conservative values, because the thing Kaczynski champions is We want to operate through tradition and informal connections rather than bureaucracy.
	That's Conservatism 101.
	Rather than being terrorists, I think we should restructure our society to get rid of the managerial and the bureaucratic classes, because that would first of all completely disarm the left.
	It would get rid of their base of support, and it would also allow the return of the kind of society that Kaczynski talks about.
	Yeah, and I don't think it's an accident in one of your recent shorts you also said, um, who is the master of that Sun Tzu jiu-jitsu and who used the internet to perfect effect?
	My former boss, President Trump!
	Just look at what he did in 2016, and God willing, he and his supporters We'll do the same in the last 91 days before the election.
	Fabulous discussion.
	That was only one of his videos we dissected.
	Watch all of them.
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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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