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Dan Goldman and Jamie Raskin, both lawyers, and Mr. Goldman, a former prosecutor with the SDNY from New York, will continue to lie today in this hearing and then go straight to the media to tell more lies.
Hunter Biden's defense attorney, Abby Lowell, weaponized his letters to Congress to try to smear my name Mr. Chairman Mr. Chairman.
hard facts in an attempt to save his powerfully connected client and his father. I challenge
Mr. Lowell to make those claims on national television so he can be held accountable for
his lies.
That was Tony Bobulinski yesterday at the hearing, the impeachment preparations against
Joe Biden, the man who was the CEO of the companies that the Bidens used to funnel money
from foreign interests through 21 shell companies to the Biden family.
And he very rightly accused individuals like Congressman Raskin and Goldman of lying about him, of smearing him in public.
And good for him.
Good for him.
I think he got under their skin because this is what Congressman Raskin reacted on CNN.
Cut one.
Well, you know, it seems to be a matter of habit and second nature now for people in Megaworld to call other people liars.
There used to be something of a public convention or taboo about that.
But in any event, I don't mind if he would just specify what the lie is.
But he never stated what he said I was lying about.
Let's talk about Russia collusion.
Let's talk about President Trump.
You've been lying about those topics for the last seven years, Jamie Ruskin.
You're one of the key people who spread the smear, the libel, about President Trump, his campaign, and his White House.
So, where do we go from here?
We're less than eight months away from the election.
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But where do we go from here?
Eight months left.
Are we going to have an impeachment of Joe Biden?
Is he going to be removed?
Is the Senate going to see him as the albatross they have to remove?
We don't have the votes, the two-thirds votes needed in the Senate, but maybe this is the way to get rid of him for the Democrats so they can slide somebody else in.
Well, Jesse Waters, one of the few good guys left at Fox, he summed it all up rather well because impeachment is an unusual animal.
It's not a judicial process, really.
Yes, they talk about conviction, but it's not.
It's a political function.
Listen to what Jesse says about the next eight months and the Biden family.
Cut five.
The Democrats say there's no evidence, the media reports there's no evidence, and the four-year cover-up continues.
So looking at the calendar, I don't see the committee moving towards an official impeachment this year.
I just don't.
Personally, I believe there was sufficient evidence to start impeachment last year, but that's just me.
Now the committee's up against a political clock.
Summer recess, conventions, and the politicians, they have to campaign for re-elections, so they're not going to be in Washington for impeachment hearings.
And an impeachment in October could be silly with weeks before an election.
So the committee is going to keep grinding.
We're still expecting credit card records from multiple banks and the offshore accounts, which the IRS whistleblowers confirm exist, are being protected by the DOJ.
But if Trump wins and finds Biden's offshore accounts, I don't care what Robert Hurst says, you're going to see a sympathetic elderly man with a hazy memory on trial.
If Biden wins re-election and the Republicans keep the House, then they'll have time for impeachment.
This year, though, it's more about what the American people believe and how it impacts their vote.
Everyone knows Biden's corrupt.
We just have to vote him out.
Excellent summary.
The real trial Won't be in a court, won't be in the lower house, won't be in the Senate.
The real trial of Joe Biden will be on November 5th.
The question I have is how powerful is cognitive dissonance?
How many tens of millions of people out there, and you know, many of these individuals, and you could have an influence on them.
How many people out there know he's corrupt?
Know that his son is corrupt.
Know that there's no reason on God's green earth for a political family, especially a political family, to have 21 shell companies.
The estimated wealth of Joe Biden today is between 30 and 40 million dollars.
How is that possible?
You can't accrue 40 million dollars by being a public servant.
How did he do that?
And if it was because of things that were acquired and invoiced by his son, And then wired through those shell companies into Joe Biden's private account.
Well, then that just raises another question.
What was Hunter Biden invoicing for?
He wasn't selling goods.
He didn't have real estate or products to sell.
So what intangible was he providing?
He's not a very good lawyer.
He was kicked out of the Navy for being a drug addict.
We can watch right now.
You can leave my radio show, go online and watch the videos he took of himself with multiple Russian prostitutes.
Inhaling hard drugs off the glutamous maximus of a naked prostitute.
Yeah, that's the president.
Could you imagine if there was a video out there of Don Jr.
or Eric Jr.
or Eric Trump snorting cocaine off the backside of a prostitute?
Could you imagine?
We've got multiple videos of exactly that.
Hunter Biden toking on his crack pipe as he films himself.
We know that.
The question is how many people will allow that truth to actually shape their decision on November the 5th?
Or how many will just have, you know, well the other guy doesn't mean tweets.
Cognitive dissonance.
It's powerful.
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Dr. G what's going on brother You having a good week?
Yes, sir.
Good.
Busy, busy.
I heard you were with the boss for like an hour and a half.
Yeah, last week.
Nice.
Yep, we published a bunch of stories about it, so more on the way.
Good.
What are you working on right now?
Uh, quite a few things actually.
So some stuff about General Flynn.
Um, apparently there's a big documentary coming out about him very soon.
So I'm doing a big piece with them about that.
And then, uh, more on the Trump interview and then some other stuff too.
Um, that's going to be interesting when it comes together.
All right.
Yep.
When it rains, it pours, man.
Yep.
Do you ever get to DC nowadays?
Not frequently, but occasionally.
Like, I haven't been up... I was up there for CPAC for just, like, a day, but... Yep.
Do we have... We have Peter Navarro from yesterday, right?
Yes, yesterday's Cut16.
You wanna tee that up?
Do we have new audio for ADF, Alex?
No, sir, they want it to be whatever you want to talk about.
Oh, OK.
From the heart.
All right, so we won't do it now.
We'll do it in the D-block.
D-block.
All right, then.
With them, yeah.
All right, then come in with Peter Navarro here, please.
Yep.
All righty.
Two minutes.
Title for the monologue.
The truth about impeaching Biden.
Yep.
Oh, and then I'm going to use Cut 8 with Matt.
Today's Cut 8.
Yes.
And we'll only do one segment because I want to take calls.
So can we unlock calls?
Unlock the lines.
Thank you.
Yep.
Wow.
This is Lake and Riley's father.
Where's he talking?
It must be like the statehouse.
Wow.
Let's listen.
Wow.
And 2B, C are open as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, 70 seconds.
Matt, stand by.
Coming in with Navarro.
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♪♪♪ This is who the Democrats are.
This is who the Democrats have hurt.
I will walk proudly in there and do my time, but what they do to people, and by the way, fact check this, I will be the only person, only person in that prison who's been convicted of a misdemeanor.
A misdemeanor.
Everybody else is in there a felon.
I will gather strength from this.
Donald J. Trump is the nominee for the Republican presidential campaign.
That was Peter Navarro just a couple of days ago standing outside the federal prison where he reported for his sentence.
A man held in contempt of Congress on a misdemeanor charge is now in prison.
Unlike, of course, Hunter Biden.
Why is the GOP not talking up?
Why aren't they making this a national issue?
Let's talk to our friend who knows everything about the swamp because he is the Washington Bureau Chief for the powerhouse that is Breitbart.com, Matt Boyle.
Welcome back to America First.
Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here.
Yeah, and isn't it just terrible what they're doing to Peter Navarro when we have Hunter Biden on film committing multiple felonies?
Like, it's just unbelievable.
So, somebody mentioned this to me yesterday and then I stopped and I thought, wow, that's so true.
With the odd exception, especially in conservative media, especially on radio, but there's definitely a dearth of anyone on Capitol Hill.
Why aren't Republican officials not saying that this is police state tactics and speaking out in defense of Peter Navarro?
I just think that the Republicans, for the most part, are... A lot of them, there are some that are bad, don't get me wrong, right?
Like, I'm not trying to defend them all.
But the vast majority of them, I just don't think they know how to fight, right?
Like, I was talking to Steve Bannon about this earlier on his show, earlier today we were talking about this, because he was asking me, like, why Why are we losing this impeachment inquiry stuff when we literally get the president's name on a check, right?
Why are we seeing more and more of these awful spending bills that they're trying to jam through?
And that they're going to, by the way.
They will get it passed by the end of the week.
Why are we seeing that?
It's because the vast majority of Republicans, I think, are just not They're good, decent, honest people.
They're doctors, lawyers, whatever, local officials, business owners who decided, farmers who decided to go run for office because they hate what's happening to their country, but they don't know how to fight.
So we need somebody to go in there and teach these House Republicans, this is how you fight.
That's not happening right now.
These guys don't get it.
You look at the Democrats, you look at their side, the AOCs of the world and whatnot, they fight like the country's on the line, because it is.
Our side just doesn't have that, right?
So why don't we have that mentality and the tactics that they're using?
The only explanation I can really come up with is while there are some of the Republicans who are really bad people, that are corrupt, that are bought off, that are on the other side, the vast majority of them, I don't think they know how.
We need to go have a training session for these Republicans.
But didn't four years of Trump teach them?
Because he fights.
Some of them learned, right?
Like, so you see some of the good ones fighting, right?
Like, I saw Byron Donalds yesterday during the hearing, and he was fantastic, right?
Did you see him walking through all the checks, right?
Like, he pulls up this check and that check, right?
And then he lays out the whole thing about how the Democrats, or how, literally lays out how the Chinese put money in Joe Biden's bank account.
Like, directly Joe Biden.
Not that you need to show that, by the way.
You can literally show that the family's been bought off.
That's a bribe in and of itself.
But the fact is that you can literally trace the money from the CEFC, which is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, right into Joe Biden's bank account.
There's a check with his name on it from one of the entities that got the money from CEFC.
It's plain as day.
But the fact is, is that, um, you know, so there are good ones, right?
Like Byron Donalds is great.
Marjorie Taylor Greene, I saw her.
She was doing good, right?
Like during the hearing.
But the fact is, is that the vast majority of them, they just don't get it.
I just, it's sad.
It really is.
All right.
Let's talk about the other side.
He was desperate yesterday, begging for votes from Hispanic Americans.
This is the current incumbent in the White House.
Cut eight.
This election is not a referendum on me.
It's an election between me and a guy named Trump.
And this is a guy whose way he talks about the Latino community is, well, in 2016 he called Latinos criminal drug dealers and rapists when he came down that escalator.
Now he says immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country.
You're the reason why, in large part, I beat Donald Trump.
I need you.
I need you badly.
I need you?
I need you badly?
That doesn't sound like somebody who's very confident, Matt.
Yeah, by the way, this is one of the things I talked about with President Trump last week when we did our big interview, Alex and I, with him in Mar-a-Lago.
We spent 90 minutes with him.
We really zoned in on the demographic shifts that we're seeing towards President Trump among the black community, among women, and among the Hispanic community in particular.
And part of the reason why that's happening is because the Hispanic community understands that the Democrats are lying about immigration.
Right? Like, and frankly, Joe Biden spent his entire State of the Union trying to claim,
lying to America, saying that the Senate bill would have made things better. It wouldn't have,
it would have made things worse. And President Trump made that extremely clear in his interview
with us. He says that that Senate bill would have exacerbated the problem, called Biden on the lie.
So I think that, and I highly recommend people read those stories.
We've had several of them the last several days on Breitbart from President Trump.
So you can hear directly from him, you can see what he's saying, what he's thinking, and really drill down on these issues.
Because the fact is, is that Joe Biden's only hope is that he can lie his way back into the White House.
That's it.
That's the only pathway for him.
If the truth gets out, and everybody knows the truth, and we're talking only about facts and verifiable facts, Donald Trump wins 10 times out of 10 against Joe Biden.
The only pathway for Joe Biden back into the White House is through a campaign of misinformation, lies, and deceit.
How much credence do you give to these reports from the actual legacy-lying media that Biden, behind closed doors in the White House, is screaming at his aides about how bad his polling figures are?
I think it's a hundred times worse than the media outlets are making it sound, right?
So I think that I believe it.
A hundred percent, but I think it's a lot worse than that.
I saw this one story in Politico where they were talking about he was screaming at people in NBC.
I saw another one.
It took two months for these incidents to leak.
I think that it's happening every day.
I think that they're in full panic meltdown mode, and I don't think they've fully captured it yet.
I think it's a little CYA going on by the establishment media.
They're just trying to cover their bases so that If this goes the way we think it goes in November, they can say, see, we told you so.
We told you we were reporting it.
We were reporting it truthfully.
No, it's a million times worse than it's being reported in the White House right now.
They're in full meltdown panic mode.
And the nice thing is the State of the Union really locked him in, right?
There's no way they're getting rid of him now.
Yeah, well, that and he's also got the delegates, right?
So he has the majority of the delegates going into the Democrat convention.
So the only thing they could do is if he voluntarily stepped aside or had some major health incident or something, if he died, God forbid, I don't want that to happen to anybody, even though I don't like Joe Biden.
But the fact is, is that that's the only way they could do it.
And then they can maybe swap things out for Kamala with the delegates at the convention.
But they're stuck with him if he wants to be the candidate and he's there.
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Mm-hmm.
Okay.
All right.
Title for that one?
Biden's completely desperate.
uh...
just worries They're all regulars, thankfully.
Mm-hmm John says one of the ADF guests is on now
We want to talk to him real quick or wait until the next segment?
No, during the break.
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Line one, George Columbus, Ohio.
Thank you for taking the call, Dr. Gorka.
Sure.
I'm calling about AOC's meltdown with Bobulinski.
So, I'm not sure who said this, but I memorized it.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
How is Rico not a crime if Donald Trump and Mayor Rudy are implemented in a RICO case, and that is the stature that they are tried under.
AOC, the only barmaid who brings nothing to the table.
Yeah, and who never sat for the bar exam, if you know what I mean, George.
Yeah, if Rico isn't a crime, how did Rudy Giuliani, before he became mayor, put five mafiadons in prison based upon the Rico statutes?
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Hey, Dr. G. I heard that Christine Balsey Ford was on The View this week, most likely just to put a little pressure on Brett Kavanaugh with this.
Oh, what happened there?
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Or was it John?
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In the meantime, let's go to Ray in Liverpool.
Thank you, Dr. G. And thanks for having Matt Boyle on.
He sure is great.
And it leads me into what I wanted to talk about.
I'm going to try to tie two things together here.
Matt Boyle, the Republicans don't fight, and the Republicans Trying to impeach Biden.
Now, these hearings are good because they're exposing who these people really are, and that needs to be shown to the American people.
But impeaching him, impeaching Ruth Bader Biden, is walking right into the hands of the Democrats.
Why?
Just like Ruth Bader refused to retire, and it cost the Democrats.
That's what Biden's doing.
We have to leave him there.
As crippled as he is, he needs to stay there.
So, back to the Republicans not fighting.
Two names.
Tim Birchett, I think is his name, and then Steve Baker.
Tim Birchett said that there's Republicans who fight because they're on the Epstein list.
Many of them are.
Oh, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
No, garbage.
No.
No conspiracy theories on this show.
You can't throw stuff.
Birchett is the UFO guy.
No.
Next point, Ray.
Next one.
Steve Baker.
And I know he was on the show, but I missed the interview.
Did he talk about the Capitol Police on your show?
Steve Baker talked about what happened to him as a Blaze reporter arrested last week.
I can't remember what he said about the Capitol Police.
He said they're the most corrupt law enforcement agency on the planet and that they know where all the bodies are buried.
They're more powerful than Nancy Pelosi is on the Hill and that they can force people to do things based on what they know is happening behind the scenes.
It's very interesting.
It'd be worth having him on.
I'll have him on again when we have an update, but I can't stand this kind of stuff where people float this garbage.
They're the most powerful because they've got stuff on people.
All right, like what?
If you make accusations like that, you've got to back it up.
You can't just float it out there because then we look like the QAnon kooks as well.
So we'll get Baker back and I'll ask him.
Thanks for that heads up.
I appreciate it, Ray.
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Welcome to America First.
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So, Ryan, tell us first, what is the mission of ADF and why you don't charge your clients a penny?
Well, we're the world's largest legal organization committed to protecting religious freedom, free speech, the sanctity of life, marriage and family, and criminal rights.
And we're blessed to be supported by thousands of individuals across the United States and even around the world to be able to do the legal work that we've been called to do.
All right, and you represent people like Chris.
Chris, you were a coach at the Mid-Vermont Christian School.
You're talking to about three and a half million people right now.
Tell us your story.
Yeah, I still am a coach at the Mid-Vermont Christian School.
And at the end of our last season, we were kicked out of all state athletics by the state of Vermont because we felt at our school we had the right to choose whether we wanted to have our female athletes compete against male athletes.
So we had a playoff game that was scheduled against a team that had a male athlete on the team, and we declined to play that game.
And as a result of that, the state did not like our decision And they ended up kicking us out of the league.
I am curious because I saw the news when it happened, Chris.
What are the other schools you're competing with and the athletic associations and the referees?
When you see these hulking six foot three men pretending to be young girls and you say, hang on a second, that's cheating.
How come everybody else doesn't agree with you, Chris?
I would say that there's a really high percentage of individuals inside athletics all throughout the country and in the state of Vermont who agree with our position.
I think it's a relatively few.
They just happen to be inside the state in the state organization, the BPA, which runs state athletics.
They're the ones who are Fighting us on our decision.
So the support we've gotten from coaches all over the state, all over the country, athletic directors, I've talked to more than a few of them and they say, hey, you're fighting the good fight.
But the one thing that they do tell me is that they really don't have the ability to speak up like we do because they're fearful of losing their jobs and their coaching and their positions that they have.
Well, Ryan, you're the director of the Center for Christian Ministries.
What is ADF doing for people like Chris?
Well, first off, we're representing Chris and the great individuals there at the school in federal court.
We filed a lawsuit in the federal court there in Vermont, and we're asking the court to allow the school, these great players, to be able to compete again in the state association.
We have a hearing coming up next month in April, and so we feel very confident in our arguments, and we're hoping that we can right a serious wrong here.
It's absolutely ridiculous what the state's doing.
What is your message, Ryan, to those who are listening right now who say, well, you know what?
I'm not a cake baker.
I'm not a basketball coach.
And, you know, that doesn't matter to me.
Well, I wish that this incident were a one-off.
Unfortunately, we see this going on across the U.S., not just the ridiculous situation of having to possibly put, you know, female athletes up against male athletes, but we see it in a number of different contexts.
And so, I think what's important here and why I'm so appreciative of Chris and the folks at Midvermont is just the fact that they're standing up.
We can't remain silent here because what the state's trying to do It's perched schools and people from the public square because they don't agree with the government here on a controversial issue where they're ignoring basic biology, safety, privacy, the importance of free speech and religious freedom.
It's vindictive and it's absolutely outrageous.
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We've got only a few seconds left Chris, Coach Chris.
What's the situation with the team?
How are the girls doing?
Are you like on now hiatus?
Are you kicked out of the league?
What's the situation?
Well, our first choice would be to play, continue to play in the state of Vermont.
Last year that wasn't possible since they did not allow us to play, so we were able to find a New England Christian School League where we were traveling all over New England, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, so it was a lot more travel.
We had overnight, so there's definitely an added expense in that.
But we're happy we were able to have a season, but again, we're missing out on what we feel like is our right to be able to play in the state.
We shouldn't be expected to, well the state is basically forcing us
to force our girls to compete against male athletes.
And we just don't think that's right.
And what we want to do is just have the choice to say, you know what, we're going to pass on those games,
and we're going to have our girls play against girls.
It's pretty simple that way for us.
It's just so, so wrong.
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Sorry about that.
Finish your thought, Phil, and we've got to squeeze in two more calls.
Yes, sure.
Blank happens.
So anyway, Christine Ballsy 4 was on The View this week, and I can't just imagine it.
It's got to be about to, you know, maybe put a little pressure on Brett Kavanaugh with the immunity thing coming up.
But the book I want to read is the one by Tara Reid, the girl who was allegedly sexually assaulted by then-Senator Biden.
She tried to go to authorities.
They ruined her life.
She had her mom call Larry King.
To get some advice.
It's all on tape.
It's, you know, and they destroyed this girl's life.
I'd love to see her get a book deal.
Yeah, I wish she hadn't run away to Russia, though, Phil.
That's a little bit unfortunate, don't you think?
She's untouchable right now.
But anyway, one suggestion for Make a Movie is great again.
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Oh, classic.
I'm writing it down.
Thank you, Phil.
I'm writing down Shane.
Antoinette, is it Thursday?
Hello, Dr. G. Boy, is it Thursday.
First off, as a Latina, as you are the Gawker man, Latina, American, I've been talking to all Latinos as best I can.
They are going to vote for Trump.
They're over Biden when they made the mistake.
And what is it?
What is it?
Is it the open border?
Is it the transgender?
What is it, Antoinette?
It's all of it!
What are you talking about, Willis?
But today, I have to say, Dr. Gorka, I lost it.
Talk about, as a Republican, Latina, and a woman in front of the Planned Parenthood, I've never done this after five years.
I hollered at this mom.
This mom and I were yelling.
She ended up leaving.
Well, she came back.
I said, you know what?
I'm sorry I yelled at you and said what I said, but I will pray for you.
This mom was pushing her daughter to go in there to get the abortion, and I lost it.
I called her the B word, and I said, you have no right to do that.
And then, of course, she said, I had no right.
I said, look, don't you understand?
We have all these people that can't even have a baby.
We have those venues.
Never mind.
I don't want to talk to you.
I said, fine.
So I lost it today, Dr. G, in front of the Tustin Orange Planned Parenthood, and I fought as hard as I could.
Wouldn't you say that Jesus was an unplanned pregnancy?
Well, she wasn't ready.
Mother Mary wasn't ready, that's for sure.
Yeah.
It was a wild day, Dr. G, but a lot of guys showed up eventually, and gals.
So we had a really good turnout, but it was a wild Thursday.
It was like you in the Rose Garden at the White House.
With that loser from Playboy.
Thank you, Antoinette, for the pleasant memories.
Will you get Brent's number and we'll call him back?
We'll talk to him in the second hour of the show.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Where did that hour go?
That's insane.
Next up.
What's really happening in Haiti?
And are they coming here?
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But now we have to return to the Perennial issue for the last three years.
We have no border.
We're the only nation in the, you know, developed world that has no border.
What does it mean?
And what's happening in Haiti?
And how does that tie into all of this?
Let's bring back our friend from the Center for Immigration Studies, Todd Bensman, the expert who can tell us the truth.
Todd, welcome back to America First.
I want to talk about Haiti in a second and what could be coming here from Haiti and what, you know, Governor DeSantis and others are trying to do in response.
But can you talk to us about this?
It's like we're in Bizarro World.
Supreme Court says something, then Texas can secure the border.
Then there's another judge that goes insane, says Texas can't secure the border.
What in God's name is going on?
Is there a state-level fix to this?
Could Texas be making a big difference?
What's the truth?
First of all, what's happening is just an argument over whether to Hold off on the law until the merits of it can be argued out legally in front of just the Supreme Court.
That's really what it is.
There's no merit hearing here.
It hasn't been, nobody's weighed in on the merits of the assertion that Texas is making that it has the right, the sovereign state right, to round up immigrants, detain them, charge them with state crimes of illegal entry, and then to leverage their self-deportations back.
We'll drop the charges if you self-deport.
That's basically what the law holds.
The problem is that this is an absolutely unprecedented law.
Never has anything like this been asserted before, but also never has the federal government And then this latest story that Mexico is refusing to take back her own citizens, that Texas is deporting.
Both sides are in completely untrammeled territory and it's going to have to be decided by the
Supreme Court.
They have no choice.
They have to weigh in on this one.
And then this latest story that Mexico is refusing to take back her own citizens, that
Texas is deporting.
How does that happen, Todd?
Well, first of all, they're not allowed to do that.
There's an agreement.
We have agreements with them.
It's bilateral relations.
It's been in place forever and ever.
Mexico takes back its own citizens.
So I'm not clear on what grounds they're claiming not to take back their citizens, but we do know that Mexico Dearly, desperately wants as many of its citizens in the United States earning and sending cash back.
I will say this, that there is an agreement right now that nobody ever talks about between Mexico and the Biden administration, which is Mexicans are allowed to apply for the CBP-1 cross the border for free app.
at the land bridges and get two-year work authorizations.
85,000 Mexicans have done that.
It's a full-on work program that was never approved by Congress.
They apply on the app, on their cell phone app, and say, I'm in humanitarian distress.
Can I come in and work for two years?
Renewable online for like 10 bucks, by the way.
That's a work program.
They put a work program together and didn't tell anybody about it and didn't ask Congress to do it.
There's a hearing right now in the House about CBP-1 where I'm really hoping that somebody asks the officials that are testifying.
These are administration political appointees.
They probably won't say anything good, but But anyway, it'll be interesting to see how they respond to, why are you letting 85,000 Mexicans have humanitarian parole into the United States with renewable work authorization that goes on forever?
Yeah.
Alright, let's talk about barbecue and the cannibal gang in Haiti.
How does this impact on a nation like ours that has no borders?
Right, it depends on how the administration decides to handle the first boat people.
There are boats that are flotillas of them that are forming on the shorelines there, and they're trying to, they're sailboats, so they're not like moving fast, moving through Bahama waters, Cuban waters, and Turk and Caicos waters.
And right now the administration appears to have cut a deal to make a blockade, a naval blockade, with British warships or ships, Bahamas vessels, and some Cubans, supposedly to turn them back.
But if the Biden administration lets them land in the Florida Keys, which is where they're all heading, you can expect a mass migration crisis at sea, is what I believe.
They must be turned back or you will have a mass migration at sea, a seaborne one.
But so far they are setting up Guantanamo Bay and they're messaging, you know, we're going to be turning you back to Haiti itself.
Fingers crossed on that one.
But there's no expectation that the Biden administration will do what needs to be done, is there?
Well, ordinarily not.
Ordinarily, the administration would let everybody land in Florida and process them all in, except this is an election year where that sort of optics are ranking as the top polling issue in this election.
So they're going to have to go Trumpian tough or lose the election is how they're probably thinking.
On that note, we've only got a minute or two left.
What credence do you give to these reports that the Biden administration have been negotiating with Mexico to slow the roll of the caravans until November because they're in trouble and then they can start sending the millions again if he wins in November?
Do you give credence to this incredibly cynical negotiation?
It's totally true.
I first reported this on January 17th in an elaborate report for CIS about how the Biden administration had cut some secret deal with Obrador.
He deployed 30,000 troops.
How does 30,000 troops get deployed down there to cut immigration off and nobody in the U.S.
reports about it?
I don't know.
Only now, two months later, and I've written about it since then, Big elaborate reports from Mexico where I interviewed the army troops down there and INM and the immigrants who are running and dodging and hiding this thing.
This thing cut the number of migrants crossing the border from 14,000 a day to like 4,000 or 5,000 a day.
It's like at 7,000 a day now for political optics.
They just don't want those Fox News drones over there showing all those thousands of people backed up on the riverbank.
That's really what it is.
But it is true.
Totally true.
I've been reporting it for two months now.
Of course I asked the right man.
That's why he's our friend, Todd Benzman.
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Yeah.
No.
No.
No, send it, send it to me.
Okay.
It's true.
Biden secretly negotiated with Mexico.
Three minutes.
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That's incredible.
Pretty sure, under any circumstances, that would qualify as an invasion right there.
I'm going to send you some images.
For this segment?
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Two minutes.
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If you can do them side by side or just one after another is fine.
One after another, okay.
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Can you come in with the latest audio?
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It's the coach, right?
The last one was Block.
Yeah, blocked. Okay. Yeah.
Mhm.
and I mean every day.
Thank you.
Bye.
Two of my players and I were sitting together at a table.
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I said that even though I recognize that people may express themselves, what matters most when it comes to sports is the very real differences between the sexes.
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OK, let me share with you a little peek behind the curtain, a little bit of inside baseball.
Earlier today I did a television interview for the National News Agency of Lithuania, which was kind of personal for me because my parents may have escaped Hungary.
When it was a communist nation, but way back when my ancestors were Lithuanian They were from the kingdom of Lithuania and Poland.
They got in some trouble with the authorities there as you know pro-democracy anti-royalists in the 1840s and so they ended up in Hungary and so yeah my ancestors I'll talk to journalists from there and And they sent me a series of questions that I'm going to share with you.
Hopefully I'll get the video of my interview.
I think the guy was a good guy.
And this tells you the power of what Chris Plant calls information dominance.
Here are the questions they asked me today.
Many in my country and region fear that the blocking of military aid to Ukraine shows the approach of President Trump towards the war, cutting off all the aid so Russia can overrun it.
What is your response?
Another fear, second question, is that under President Trump, United States will leave NATO.
And on it goes.
The next question.
A lot of people are afraid that President Trump will see Europe as a space for cutting deals with Russia as he gives in to authoritarian agents.
And then on and on that isolationism will return to America if President Trump wins.
So, to put it bluntly, Lithuania, one of the Baltic states that's right up there, knows what being dominated by the Kremlin was like.
Their existence was denied through the Cold War.
They're afraid of President Trump coming back.
And I behaved myself this time.
I didn't get angry.
I didn't get aggressive.
Because, you know, this is my kith and kin.
And I asked them a very simple question.
Were you alive when my boss was the president?
Because, you know, anybody above the age of 10 can remember when President Trump was actually in the White House.
Did he leave NATO?
Was he an isolationist?
And did he make cynical geopolitical bargains with Russia?
No, no, no.
In fact, we killed 300 Russian mercenaries in Syria.
And Putin didn't say boo.
When his client state Assad's murderous regime in Damascus was about to use chemical weapons, we didn't say, oh we're isolationists, we don't care!
We dropped 52 cruise missiles on that base and turned it into a sheet of glass.
Oh, and how about this?
This is like, this is what I don't understand, the misperception.
When was Ukraine invaded for the first time?
When they stole Crimea.
Aha, when Obama was president.
Then when did they invade a second time?
When Biden was president!
But when we were in the White House for four years, how many new wars were there in the world?
Was there peace in the Middle East?
Was there peace in Europe?
Was China back in her box?
Had we crushed ISIS?
Was North Korea behaving itself?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
If you want to be afraid, be afraid now, because we have war in Europe.
We have hundreds of thousands of people killed.
We have war in the Middle East.
The greatest loss of life for the Jewish people since the end of the Holocaust, since the Shoah.
Be afraid, because Biden's in the White House.
If you want a stable planet, we had one for four years.
Why are these people believing the propaganda of the left?
Help me wake them up, please.
It's incredible.
Thank you.
It is utterly counterfactual.
This isn't my opinion.
For four years, we had no new wars.
The bad guys were afraid of us.
Kim in Pyongyang, the Mullahs in Iran, ISIS in their burnt-out caliphate, Putin in... Putin, after we killed those 300 special forces guys in Syria, he didn't hold a press conference.
He crapped his pants because he was afraid of President Trump and what he's going to do next.
We dropped those 52 cruise missiles on Syria as Xi Jinping was having a state dinner at Mar-a-Lago and President Trump leant over as he was eating the best chocolate cake in the world and said, hey Xi, I think you should know I just completely destroyed Assad's chemical weapon base.
Just to send a message to the biggest communist dictator in the world!
How is this complicated?
How is this not patently obvious like the nose on your face?
Do you want stability?
Do you want security?
Do you want a border?
Do you want no new wars?
Then get the senile, nasty, decrepit, corrupt old man out of the White House and get President Trump back.
If only for one reason and one reason alone.
One of these men actually loves America.
The other one is dismantling it as we speak.
Wake up and help me to wake up the others who have been utterly indoctrinated.
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We'll be back in a sec.
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Um... Why is everyone so blind?
So blind... Alright, then a C here and then a Rosiak after that.
Want to use some cuts here?
Oh, yeah.
Do we have a buffer of Roziak?
The story, yeah.
Let me pull it.
Right, I'll do, um... There it is.
I'll do Lemon and, um, the Carvel cast, but I'll do them in reverse.
The two Carvels.
Both Carvels and then Lemon.
Yeah, the Lemon one is just too good.
Like... Again, my favorite part is he just, with a deadpan expression, says, I am not on the left.
I am fiercely independent.
Like, again, I can't tell if these people believe it or not.
That's the scary thing.
Some of them do, and I think some of them don't.
Well, he's just stupid.
Well, as Trump said, right?
Wasn't he the one Trump said was the dumbest man on television?
Don Lamon.
Dawn Lamond.
I'm going to go ahead and start the recording.
Okay.
Let's see, segment 2 minutes.
Okay.
Don Lamon?
RFK?
Oh.
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I have complete... They come to me and the show hosts get to decide.
So when they came to me with a movie about RFK Jr., I was like, really?
The guy who doesn't like the Second Amendment, who said if you're not sure about global warming, you should go to prison.
And I thought, nah.
Then I decided to watch the documentary, and I thought, you know, it's not even overtly political.
It's a kind of biopic, and it's fascinating.
The things I didn't know about his faith, the effect of his father's and his uncle's assassination, his very serious drug problem, and then before he got political, all the stuff he did for the environment.
It's a good movie.
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How hilarious is the fact that Don Lemon has been fired from CNN and then fired from Twitter?
He's rather sad, but is he surprised?
He shouldn't be, because Elon Musk realized just how foolish a decision it was.
Listen to him in his new studio, which looks disturbingly a lot like mine.
Let's play Don Lemon.
The Digital Town Square is for everyone.
That is what Elon Musk declared last summer when he first invited me and my colleague Rachel Maddow to join X. He said, quote, it would be great to have folks on the left put their shows on this platform, end quote.
Now, first of all, I'm not on the left.
Politically, I am fiercely independent.
But putting that aside, we now know that Elon's sales pitch simply was just not genuine.
Because I dare anyone, and especially him, to watch our conversation in full and tell me that our back and forth was not exactly what X is supposed to be all about.
Eric, what were you tittering at there?
Your mic was hot.
What was going on there?
They say that the best way to deliver punchlines in comedy is to do it with a deadpan expression.
And for Don Lamon to unironically, with a straight face, say, I am not on the left.
I am fiercely independent.
As if, I can't tell if he believes it or not, but does he expect any of us to believe that?
The only other reaction you can have is to laugh at it, because it's a joke.
Well, don't you think that the man with three brain cells actually believes it?
I think he does!
I mean, didn't President Trump once refer to him as the dumbest man on television?
If anyone would believe Liza's...
Obviously fake as that, it would be Don Lemon.
And in fact, thanks to Jeff, we asked the President on Monday if Don Lemon, who's now not on television, if there's anybody who's taking his position as the dumbest person on the little screen.
And I think he agreed with me that it might be Joe Scarborough.
If you haven't seen it, the President was on for a whole hour on Monday.
We posted it to our Rumble channel.
We posted it.
All over social media.
It's on the podcast.
You can listen to the audio.
We made a lot of it.
We're still... They're still writing articles about it today.
I got the Google Alerts.
There's like six more articles today from the UK from... What is it?
Who are those scumbags?
The Daily Beast.
The Daily Beast.
Hey!
Daily Beast!
It was Monday!
It's Thursday today!
What?
Were you in a coma?
Were you in a crack-induced stupor for four days?
Well, it is the Daily Beast, so it's probably the case.
But you need to see the whole thing for yourselves.
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And he's not even smoking a cigar.
What is going on, Mr. Rosiak?
Hey, how are you?
Good, good, good, good.
How come you're not puffing on a stogie?
Just got back from the place.
Oh, what's the place?
Route 7 Cigar Lounge in Sterling.
Oh.
Can we tip the camera down a little bit?
Slightly less headroom?
Yes.
Perfect.
Good, good, good.
All right.
Yes.
So we're going to put the story up.
All right.
Question two.
Excellent.
All right.
We're going to talk about that.
Good, good, good.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
Do you want to get to the Montgomery County story as well, or just... Which one is the Montgomery one?
Some kids at a Palestine walkout praised Hitler and a Jewish teacher reported them to the principal.
The principal then framed the Jewish teacher on false charges to punish the teacher for whistleblowing.
Did you also write that up for The Wire?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Can you get this book up as well, Race to the Botomeric?
Yeah, let's see if we have a database here.
Yeah, we'll squeeze both of them in, Luke.
Cool.
How's your family?
Good.
My kids are good.
What were you smoking?
AJ Fernandez.
I just got back from a cigar event in Tampa with our listeners.
Lots of fun.
Lots of fun.
Oh, that sounds fun.
Is the book out?
Yeah.
Okay, good. All right now What have I got here
This is D. PhD.
PhD.
You introduce the book first or the story first?
BYE!
Uh, story.
Uh, sorry, book.
Go first.
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He is Luke Rosiak.
It is Race to the Bottom, Uncovering the Secret Forces, Destroying American Public Education.
And we are delighted to have him on the show today from the Daily Wire.
Luke, it's been too long.
Thanks for having me.
Last time I saw you was at a church event and you were smoking a very nice cigar and you shared one with me.
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Follow this man at Luke Rosiak.
Let's talk about the shocking things you've uncovered.
Let's talk about what's happening in my county, Fairfax County, when it comes to history lessons.
This is a story from the Daily Wire.
I couldn't believe it when Katie showed it to me.
Tell me what's happening in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Well, there's been a lot of controversy about whether parents should be able to opt kids out of controversial lessons.
People on the left generally say, no, you should not be able to do things like remove your child from LGBTQ lessons, transgender stuff.
They feel like it's important for everybody to get the social messages that they're pushing, and parents shouldn't have those rights.
But here in Fairfax County, which is the largest, one of the largest districts in the country, there was a startling reversal on that position.
Suddenly the left and the Fairfax County public schools are in favor of opting out When it comes to learning about the Holocaust, they had a Holocaust survivor coming in to share his experience, and this has got to be one of the last remaining survivors, God bless him, and he was coming in to tell the story firsthand.
Students could really understand the gravity of the Holocaust.
And the principal basically sent an email to all the parents advertising the ability to opt out.
And it said, we understand that all students have different experiences.
If you prefer to opt your child out from participating, Please email your child's history teacher.
So they weren't just allowing you to opt out, they were almost soliciting it and advertising it, which is again, totally different than you'd see with LGBT.
Certainly they're not allowing you to opt out of lessons on slavery and things like that.
So I have to ask, because this is just absolutely mind-boggling, that you're going to opt out of teaching the history of the biggest genocide, you know, in Western Europe in the 20th century.
Where does this originate?
Who's the first person who said, yeah, this is a good idea?
Well, you know, so FCPS basically talks a lot about diversity and equity, and they kind of say that in their original message to parents, that students have different experiences.
And, you know, one can imagine in the aftermath of the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, there's been a lot of anti-Semitism and animus at Israel and Jews, especially coming from the left.
And so you can imagine that I think it's a pretty clear and reasonable reading of this to say students have different experiences.
It seems to me that they're talking about people who don't like Jews because they're from certain countries.
But when I asked them about that, they actually sent this very weird message.
It's one of these PR-speak things that barely even seems like it's written in English.
But it basically says, we did this to let the Jews be exempted from learning about the Holocaust because it might be too difficult for them.
They might be getting PTSD and things like that.
Yeah, I mean, first of all, these kids, they were not in the Holocaust themselves.
And second, it's supposed to be hard.
It's supposed to be uncomfortable.
It's supposed to be emotional.
Right, but we don't not teach about World War II because people died in World War II.
I mean, that's just garbage.
That's just, you know, the school's authority covering their backside.
Let's talk about the other story from Montgomery County where a teacher was framed.
I mean, this is even worse.
Yeah, so, you know, right across the Potomac River in Montgomery County, Maryland, there was a school where the principal, where the kids had a walkout, and the principal gave them excused absences to go protest against Israel.
And they were holding up these signs, like praising like violent struggle and things
like that.
And the signs came from the Freedom Road Socialist Organization.
And so it was kind of well publicized a few months back.
This is right after the October 7th attacks.
And so I did a FOIA request to learn about the principal support of this rally.
And it found that a Jewish teacher had reported to the principal that some of those Palestine
protesters had praised Hitler and called for the death of Jews.
And she heard that with her own ears as a teacher.
And so what they did is they decided to take the kid's side over the teacher, and they said, this didn't happen, you made it all up.
So I wrote that story a couple months ago, and just this week I did a follow-up.
It turns out that after my story came out in the Daily Wire, the principal blamed the Jewish teacher for leaking to the media, which was not true, and they knew it was not true, because I got it from a FOIA request, a Freedom of Information Act request, and the principal knew it.
It was actually from the principal's own emails that I knew that she had praised these protesters after she knew that they had allegedly praised Hitler.
And she actually refused to send an email condemning the Hitler-praising kids, and instead said they did a fantastic job.
And so the emails show that this principal knew that she was basically framing this Jewish teacher and imposing a disciplinary action for leaking to the media, when in fact it was the principal's own emails, through a public records request, that tipped me off to this story.
Well, as I've been saying for years here, that's why my wife ran for local office, and now she's running for the chair of the Fairfax County GOP.
Politics is truly local, and they can steal your country from you without the White House, without the Senate, if we let them take over the school boards, the county commissioners.
It's time to fight back.
It's time to get politically engaged.
Follow this man at the Daily Wire and at Luke Rosiak.
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I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going to go ahead and get started. I'm going
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Delete the holocaust.
Alrighty.
Come in with cut three, you said?
Can't believe he was back from the cigar bar.
I mean, it's what?
It's four o'clock in the afternoon.
I guess that explains the voice a little bit.
I thought for a moment he sounded a lot like John Solomon.
He has kind of a similar voice, yeah, but I guess, yeah, coming back from a cigar bar.
What have we got here?
I'm gonna do my pillow and then tee up Carville, cut three, and then we'll go to Brent.
Pillow, tee up, cut three, and then Brent.
Yep.
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Carville's back from out of the gutter with his baggy hoodie and his skeletal face, using some very threatening language with regards to President Trump.
Here is Clinton's bag man.
Cut three.
You are a proponent of the president and all his spokespeople in the campaign doing that more and more.
Yeah, not so much him.
I mean, be candid, Anderson.
President Biden is not the best attack politician I've ever seen in my life, and I'll leave it at that.
But there are a lot of people to do what I call, quote, the wet work, unquote.
And I think he needs to stay sort of a... Well, it's kind of, but it's a paid TV and stuff like that.
But yes, a CIA term.
Oh, so that's better.
Wetwork is the code phrase used to describe assassinations in the intelligence community.
Why is a Democrat strategist like Carville, in front of Anderson Cooper who's laughing about it, using a phrase that is meant to describe assassinations when discussing President Trump?
I told you, my friends, they're trying to normalize violence.
There is a problem with violence in America, and it's on the left.
He's been super patient.
He is our Poet Laureate.
Let's go to the West Coast, Los Angeles.
And Brent, greetings!
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Greetings, my friends.
What would you like to share with us today?
Well, as a Jew, prior to the holiday of Purim, I am pondering the evil Haman who plotted to exterminate every single Jew in ancient Iran about 2,400 years ago.
And the aphorism, those who do not believe in the devil also do not believe in God, comes to mind.
Because it is God who created the devil, the serpent in the Garden of Eden, and the devil's Amalekites.
And the Amalekites, 3,300 years ago, inhabited the ancient Gaza Strip as Hamas today and were committed to the extermination of every Jew as their highest aspiration.
Haman, Hitler, Hamas, Hezbollah, Karl Marx, Mohammed, Joe Biden, George Soros, and Chuck Schumer are obvious incarnations of that devil which atheists choose to deny.
But all leftist lies of love are sourced in Lucifer.
Even Saul Alinsky satanically stated this in his Rules for Radicals.
One correction, God did not create the devil.
Lucifer created himself when he decided not to obey him and not to be one of his angels, and he fell.
So yeah, the rest of it is great.
One little modification that Lucifer chose to turn his back on his creator, on his master, and that's why he became the devil.
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This legislation, if signed into law, will lead to a ban of TikTok in the United States.
Even the bill's sponsors admit that that's their goal.
This bill gives more power to a handful of other social media companies.
It will also take billions of dollars out of the pockets of creators and small businesses.
It will put more than 300,000 American jobs at risk and it will take away your TikTok.
That's so weird, I've never heard a Chinese CEO worry about jobs for Americans in America.
That is, the man who ostensibly runs something called TikTok.
Worried about legislation in our lower house to, well, not ban it as people would have you believe, but to sell it to an actual American company.
Why should anyone care?
And what is TikTok?
If you're over the age of 30, you may have no idea.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Seriously, this is a national security issue, and we are delighted to have with us from the conservative mothership, the Heritage Foundation, the Director of the All Matters kind of techie and policy.
She spent a life working for, well, snake eaters and the sharp end of the spear.
We'll get to that later.
Director of the Heritage Foundation's Tech Policy Center, Cara Frederick.
Welcome in studio.
Thanks for having me.
So you're going to educate millions of people now across the country from California to the swamp about things like TikTok and what on earth they have to do with the survival of Western civilization, America, and just not giving away your precious biometric information and your geolocation to countries that don't really like us.
So Kara, why is there legislation?
Let's start with a simple thing.
Why is there legislation about a social media app on Capitol Hill, an app that teenagers love, allegedly?
Well, here's the thing.
It's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
It is a true national security threat.
And I've talked about this as a slam dunk when it comes to national security because of three simple things.
And that is, number one, this deep, deep relationship to the Chinese Communist Party.
TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, is incorporated in China.
It is subject to the laws and the policies of the People's Republic of China, which foremost among them, I would say, there's a 2017 national intelligence law which effectively renders any private company in China a ward of the state.
They have to contribute to, quote, state intelligence work.
So there are no private companies in China. They must work on behalf of the Chinese
government. Number two, we know through a Department of Justice document that the CCP, the
Chinese Communist Party, has an internal committee on ByteDance, TikTok's parent
company, that influences the activities of the app. So you have CCP pulling the
strings.
They're like puppeteers within ByteDance, the parent company of TikTok.
And then lastly, we know that a card-carrying member of the Chinese Communist Party, an actual CCP official, has one of three domestics in ByteDance's main domestic subsidiary, a board seat there.
there. So you have China exercising direct control over TikTok's parent company ByteDance,
and they've accessed Americans' data in China before.
Although TikTok has said, no, no, no, we really haven't. It always comes out after
TikTok makes a proclamation like that.
No, the platform, they've later been caught in a, I'll call it a lie, or an equivocation.
And Chinese engineers, China-based engineers do access and have accessed Americans' user data.
The last thing I'll say, which is really important, is people say, oh, this is not a surveillance app, yet ByteDance has admitted that they've used TikTok deliberately as a surveillance app.
There was a project called Project Raven, internal to ByteDance, that tried to find and suss out the exact physical locations of American journalists to try to detect whistleblowers and leakers.
So they've used TikTok as a surveillance app.
Simple as that.
All right, so you've done your usual here.
It reminds me of when you were on four years ago.
I just look like an hour's worth of data dump in four minutes.
So we're going to slow roll this and Cara is going to unpack this for us.
Let's treat me like, you know, a child.
Why do we care about data on an app which is about cute kittens and young girls dancing?
So let's break it down.
Let's start from the beginning.
I don't have a TikTok account.
I went on the app once and it was truly as you think you've said you know fenton digital fentanyl because you see one 60 second video and then you you tap and you go to another one and it pulls you down this tunnel but really these are innocuous stupid videos why should we care
Not at all.
And we can talk about the content, but the reason why we should care is because of what China has said it wants to do with our data, what they're attempting to do with our data.
Think about if everyone can go all the way back to 2014, 2015, there was a thing called the OPM hack.
And everyone who listens to the program... I was one of the big teams of the OPM hack as I worked in the Defense Department.
Yes, myself as well.
Government employees and people who even are employed by the government in other states, not necessarily in the South.
It's okay, they offered me like one month free of, what was it, personal identity, digital insurance.
Yeah, you're squared away.
Yeah, an easy day.
No, not at all.
And so, that was the Office of Personnel Management hack, so they can get your addresses, they can get social security numbers.
China was linked to this hack.
Now, another hack China was linked to, the Marriott hack.
Where do DOD personnel stay when they go across the country?
They stay in Marriott.
How do people travel?
Travel patterns.
That's an interesting thing for a hostile foreign adversary to grab up.
Equifax.
Okay, what is this?
Insurance data?
Interesting.
Chinese state actors were linked to that hack as well.
The Anthem hack.
Healthcare information.
China was linked to that as well.
Then you look at TikTok.
TikTok is a veritable treasure trove of this data.
It's like all of this data that they've gone through such lengths to hack, but right there for the taking.
It's like that on steroids.
It gives approximate locations if you use TikTok.
There is a point where if you had an Android device, what TikTok was collecting was the unique device identifier of your phone.
So that's like the digital fingerprint for your phone.
Exactly.
And I've been told that even if you delete the app, you're still susceptible.
Is that correct?
And that's the whole point, is when you tie the use of your app to a hard equipment number
or unique identifier, then even if you delete the app and you had an Android phone when
it was collecting this information, they've got you dead to rights.
So they've got your physical handsets.
They've got your location.
They've got your your actual face They've got all sorts of your keystroke rhythms how you actually type into your phone This is insane the level of granularity of information that they're able to collapse Let's go to the other side, let's red team it.
Why would China want to know how Americans are inputting personal data onto their own personal phones?
What utility is that to the biggest communist nation in the world?
Oh, well, there's a reason why I had that long prelude of thinking back to 2014-2015 timeframe, and you look at these seemingly disparate datasets, we come to a little thing called artificial intelligence.
Because we are able to use these emerging technologies to parse through what we call big data, you can integrate those datasets, and you could have a comprehensive dossier on Any American that has been subject to these data exploitation and collection practices.
They've got you completely.
This is, as a former intelligence officer, this would be my dream.
And to have that comprehensive data profile, how you behave online, your digital behavioral profile too, along with your immutable physical characteristics, What can't you do with that?
The potential is absolutely limitless.
And then when you look at China, when you look at the bellicosity that's coming out
of the party state right now when it comes to our allies in Taiwan, if we, if American
service members are in a hot war with China, then they've got exactly where they stayed,
where they have stayed, their travel patterns, what they look like, who they're connected
to, the potentials for compromise, for blackmail, for espionage, for actual physical harm are,
it's limitless.
Bye!
She knows how to use the word bellicosity.
That should impress you enough.
In the meantime, make sure you're following this lady.
We've only just begun to unpack the pernicious, pernicious insider threat that is TikTok.
Follow her at Cara Frederick on TikTok and join the Heritage Foundation today.
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OK, I'm going to do something a little bit different here with regards to how you've painted the picture of TikTok, which is tied in inextricably with the Communist Party, the Central Committee of Communist China.
And just kind of red team it, because you've painted an incredibly depressing picture, a frightening picture of millions of Americans having their data Kind of willingly, just taken from them by this app.
We've been told for the longest time, the conventional wisdom carter is that, you know, even the Japanese or the Chinese, they can imitate our products, whether it's cars or something else, but they don't have the innovation that we do.
That's why only one nation has gone to the moon, America.
Why have we not created something like this to deal with enemy populations?
How did they come up?
How did China, which 40 years ago was a developing nation at best, come up with the number one social media app for children, which is in fact a spying tool?
Do you understand the genesis?
How did that come about?
Are they that good?
Well, China's always been at the bleeding edge of using technology and digital surveillance to shape behavior.
You look at what they do in the Xinjiang region against the Uyghur minorities.
I mean, they've been using all sorts of technology, you know, a combination of Human intelligence, signals intelligence, all sorts of what we call ints in the intelligence community.
So not just data, not just technology, but they have been using their people as guinea pigs for this type of work for so long that I would say maybe they haven't perfected it, but they're doing a really, really good job of using digital technologies for behavioral influence, again, to shape behavior, to try to make their populations either say what they want them to say, think how they want them to think, and behave how they want them to behave.
It's for, in a lot of ways, I would say it started as internal control.
You know they were doing this in Xinjiang as a counterterrorism mechanism and that's how they justify it from Chinese
official standpoints. But they have things like data doors. You go through a specific door if
you want to travel anywhere around Xinjiang and it pulls all of your device information. They have
those sorts of license plate detectors and they integrate all of this data. They even get so granular
as to have people sitting in homes saying, oh you use too much electricity today.
Are you harboring potential terrorists?
Are you harboring too many people?
Oh, you used too much toilet paper today.
This is according to some of the Human Rights Watch reporting.
And then they have a thing called the Integrated Joint Operations Platform, the IJOP, where they integrate all of this data and they flag potential dissidents or people for additional scrutiny.
Is this beyond the social credit system or is this part and parcel of the social credit system?
This is beyond the social credit system because they have that extensive crackdown in that region in particular.
You took the words out of my mouth when it came to the social credit system.
That genesis was originally from financial companies like Sesame and it ballooned into beyond pilot programs in certain provinces where now it's sort of looking at the entire nation saying Oh, if you jaywalked, we're gonna throw your visage up on a screen and publicly shame you.
Which is totally Orwellian.
Exactly.
If you behave the wrong way, you pay a penalty.
Oh yeah, and not just you pay a penalty, but you're unable to be a real citizen with the privileges of regular citizens.
Like traveling.
Like traveling.
Like getting a government loan.
Like getting specific types of jobs.
They had a series of red lists, black lists, gray lists, and whatnot, and that's how they built out this system using technology, cameras, AI-driven facial recognition systems, all integrated to do this.
Not perfect, but they have had so many years to perfect these types of technologies and use them against their own people.
Of course they're exporting this.
Of course they're using the Belt and Road Initiative to bring these technologies to other companies.
And yes, TikTok in particular, the 4U algorithm, as I've always said since as early as 2019,
this is their secret sauce.
Yes, we have innovative companies in America that are attempting to figure out, you know,
what is special about that algorithm, potentially replicate it or build their own.
But for now, because China has had their guinea pigs, their population to work when it comes to using technology
for behavioral shaping, they've got a head start.
4U is the name of the algorithm that drives TikTok.
TikTok's algorithm.
So they have this captured totalitarian society.
Therefore, millions of people, hundreds of millions of people can be the guinea pigs to perfect what they deploy in TikTok on us.
And by the way, TikTok isn't allowed in China.
And that should tell you something.
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So, there were reports, I'm sure you verified them, or you can tell us that they're not true, that when this bill was before the House last week, because of a prompt That every TikTok user in America was forced to watch when they went on to their phone that said, call your congressman now!
Stop them from killing TikTok!
There were kids, there were teenagers calling Congress saying, don't ban my app or I'll commit suicide.
This happened, right, Cara?
Yes, according to Matthew Foley's amazing reporting.
And that, I didn't even get into this yet.
So we haven't even really scratched the surface of how bad this is, especially when it comes to potential influence campaigns.
We know in the 2022 midterms, TikTok served divisive information to its U.S.
users.
And in a lot of ways, they promoted Democrat candidates over Republican candidates, too.
We have reporting on that.
So they also attempted, they actually told the Chinese linked entity, media entity, actually
asked TikTok way back when if they can start serving influence to U.S. users.
And TikTok said, no, no, we didn't do it.
But there's so much in the ensuing two years that we saw behind the scenes that the CCP
looks like this information is very favorable to them and they want to sow discord.
They want to actually stoke division.
Something that people complained about in 2016, remember of the, um, uh,
There was the scandal and Facebook and Cambridge Analytica and whatever came in that.
No, this is actually happening.
This is what the Chinese Communist Party is doing.
And crickets, right?
Crickets in the lefty media, in the legacy media.
So that to me is one thing.
Again, we haven't even scratched the surface.
That's sort of a political content thing.
What it's doing in terms of suicidal ideation, like you mentioned, kids threatening to kill themselves.
Well, and the transgender movement.
And the transgender movement.
I mean, I think the primary driver of that is TikTok.
Oh, precisely.
Yeah, as Abigail Schreier has said before, you know, social media in general lights a fire under these social contagions.
And TikTok, they've partnered with trans activists.
They encourage people to put their pronouns in their bios.
All of which would be banned in China.
Oh, it is banned in China!
It doesn't even exist in Douyin, the version in China.
Yeah, as other people have reported on, Tristan Harris is really good about this, saying it's sort of like spinach and healthy and, you know, STEM and educational videos, whereas here, no, it's depression, it's suicidal ideation, again, it's eating disorder content, it's the trans nonsense that they're pushing and pushing and pushing on these platforms.
And a good experiment, I won't interrupt you, I know you want to say something, but I think
this is worth propagating to your audience.
There was a 13 and 14-year-old, there are journalists who registered as 13 to 14-year-olds
in the West, in UK, and they found no less than eight minutes after registering as 13
and 14-year-old girls, they were served torrents of that suicidal content, depression content,
eating disorder content.
So if you were a hostile foreign adversary, this is the perfect weapon to really target
the youth of the next generation of citizens of your enemy nation.
Now, given what you've said, it sounds like it should be banned, it should be shredded
and set alight and buried.
But this bill doesn't do that.
It says this has to be sold to a US entity, and also gives the current president almost
plenary function or power to deem other social media platforms a threat to national security
and then to have their ownership changed.
What is your response to those who say this bill doesn't go far enough because it could be sold to another woke company, Zuckerberg if you will, and also gives too much power to the executive to censor other platforms?
Well, the last characterization I disagree with, I don't think it gives too much power to the executive.
And I do want to say, especially to your listeners and your viewers, you know, no one is more sensitive to the weaponization of government than myself.
Worked in the intelligence community for a long time, worked at Facebook, and found that a lot of these tools are now being turned inward upon conservatives like myself.
And so we at the Heritage Foundation have been banging the drum on this weaponization for so long, so very, very sensitive to these But there is that line about the president in the bill.
Yep.
So, but.
And we helped work on this bill, on some of the content and whatnot, saw a lot of the drafts, were very, very cautious of this and talked to a lot of the authors of this bill.
And what we found is all of this is written in statute, right?
So, if the president wants to designate anything a national security threat, It can't be a fake national security threat like DHS said
back in February of 2022 spreading COVID misinformation as a national security threat.
No, not at all.
This does not allow for that.
What it does, it has four hostile nations written out in statute, Title 10 of the U.S.
Code.
North Korea, Iran, Russia, China.
Any company that can be designated a national security threat has to be controlled by one of these four nations.
So it can't even just be domiciled there or incorporated there.
It has to be controlled like TikTok.
And the other general criticism that you could sell it to a US company and they could be woke?
Okay, so this is on the other side.
So, the bill is very narrow, and when people are saying this is overly broad, the contention with the bill is that it is too narrow, and that's exactly the data point that I think you rightfully bring up.
Then we'll have to contend with that if it gets sold to a meta down the road.
So that does concern you.
Again, the Heritage Foundation has been so bullish against Big Tech.
But it's a separate question.
This is a very specific, narrow, national security-focused bill.
Then we can work on the Big Tech platforms later.
I'm very, very concerned about that.
That's what gets me up in the morning every day, frankly.
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Okay, Codden, please.
A very simple question that unites both parties in our country and governments around the
world is the Chinese government committing genocide against the Uyghur people.
Senator, anyone, including, you know, you can come and talk about this topic.
I'm asking you yes or no.
You are a worldly, cosmopolitan, well-educated man who's expressed many opinions on many topics.
Is the Chinese government committing genocide against the Uyghur people?
Actually, Senator, I talk mainly about my company, and I'm here to talk about what TikTok does.
Yes or no, you're here to give testimony that is truthful and honest and complete.
Let me ask you this.
Joe Biden last year said that Xi Jinping was a dictator.
Do you agree with Joe Biden that Xi Jinping is a dictator?
Senator, I'm not going to comment on any world leaders.
Why won't you answer these very simple questions?
Senator, it's not appropriate for me as a businessman to comment on world leaders.
Are you scared that you'll lose your job if you say anything negative about the Chinese Communist Party?
I disagree with that.
You will find content that is critical of China on our platform.
Are you scared that you'll be arrested and disappear the next time you go to mainland China?
Senator, you will find content that's critical of China and any other country freely on TikTok.
Oh dear, why can't you answer a simple question?
We've all seen the videos.
That's the CEO of TikTok, the bike dance company that is literally indoctrinating Western youth and is under the control of the CCP, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China.
I think that's why he can't answer that question.
Okay, let's drill down on this because I'm a cradle Catholic.
I wouldn't say I'm a good Christian because I'm fallen like everyone else except one person who died for us.
And you know, it really I got an image from TikTok's website that I just pulled up before the show that I want to show you because I see an ad for TikTok regularly on cable TV that uses Catholic nuns.
This is Sister Monica Clare.
Finding connection and community on hashtag nun talk.
Any comments on religious orders in America using a communist Chinese social media platform?
What?
This is insane.
And the other thing I saw was I watched this commercial.
There's an actual commercial for it.
You know what the nun doesn't talk about?
Jesus.
Never mentions the word Jesus.
Never mentions the word Catholic.
She talks about spirituality and these vague conceptions.
But you know what?
She doesn't say Jesus.
And she's a nun.
She's a bride of Christ, right?
And yet... So I think this is so hypocritical.
Again... Isn't it worse than that?
I mean aren't you, I mean there's a phrase from the Cold War Useful Idiot, you've actually made yourself as a nun, the phrase is correct that you use, a bride of Christ, you've made yourself a tool of a regime that has Lao Gai prison camps.
Yep, that is committing genocide, as our government said when Trump was in power.
Committing genocide.
And you look at all of these ads, they are specifically geared toward people like us, believers, people of faith, conservatives.
They are veterans and whatnot.
I'm a Navy wife.
And I see this as cheap ploys.
I hope everyone who's watching the show understands what's going on here.
They're like, OK, we can try to turn the conservatives, because conservatives are traditionally China hawks.
We traditionally do not like communism.
But if they can get us on board, then they can take over.
That's a massive problem.
They've already got the commies with the left, right?
They just need to convince people of our cohort.
There is some interesting sort of background here.
Not purely vetted, but we've seen reports that a lot of these ads and whatnot are not in these companies, that veteran companies, disabled veterans, are not doing as well as they try to pretend they are on commercials, on networks, and things like that.
I think there's a lot more than meets the eye when it comes to TikTok and some of their advertising efforts, but clearly this is in the clutches of the Chinese Communist Party.
You look at the CEO, he was quaking in his boots.
He looked worried.
He looked scared that I'm going to have to talk about Muslims being persecuted in China.
What's going to happen to me when I go back to China?
All right, let's go even darker than Catholics being pawns of a communist regime.
I think I saw a clip of you in an upcoming movie.
Can you talk to us, not about the national security threat of social media and platforms like TikTok, but talk to us about how the biggest trafficking tool, especially for trafficking children for sexual purposes, is social media.
Is that correct?
Yeah, I would say it is.
And thus far, a lot of the research efforts have been focused on platforms like Instagram, where they have, according to state attorneys general, 43
are suing MEDA for some of these reasons.
They're exploiting children.
And they insist that these companies are actively targeting vulnerable kids
because they're saying, OK, they have a psychological profile that is going to make them more addicted to these
platforms, that is going to maximize our growth when it comes to this
demographic.
So, you know, there's that aspect of a psyche and then there's the physical targeting of children where... Well, this is my question.
Is it a case of, and you know it better as a former intelligence officer, is it a case of, you know, one-off perverts using a platform?
Or is the argument that these are trafficking organizations that are using these social media platforms?
Because that's much worse.
Yeah, I think both have been known to use a variety of these social media platforms.
And I saw something really, really interesting.
And I'm totally going to parrot this man, I think it was Sean Ryan, who basically said, when you give your kid a phone, you're not giving your kid access to the world, you're giving the world access to your kid.
And as a mom, a new mom, that hit me like a ton of bricks.
That's the truth.
And that's what these social media platforms are doing.
They allow bad actors, they help facilitate some of their bad actions.
And that's gonna happen in life, right?
Like you said, we're fallen, like we are infallible, we are fallible human beings, and yet, You know, these tools make it a lot easier to go to the darker places that you mentioned.
Well, or I'd go back to what Sean Ryan said.
It's not that I or my child wants to go to that darker place, but you've opened the door for the dark forces to access your child.
I mean, it's like, you know, there are certain things one doesn't do in life.
Because you're opening the door to the devil and in this case, it's you know, the real devil or it's the CCP or it's a evil human man or an organization.
I love that phrase.
I'm gonna I'm gonna you know, just feed it as well.
It's your child.
It's your grandchild.
Don't put something in their hand that you cannot control and which allows literally Anyone in the world to contact and access your child.
That's how you think about it.
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Okay, two last questions, very quick fire.
When it comes to social media, so TikTok and the others, can you give us a grade?
How serious is the threat, let's just say national security threat, of these platforms doing whatever they want in America?
Give us a grade.
Oh gosh, F!
Yeah, like I've said before, it's a five alarm fire.
And the fact that it's been allowed to become entrenched in American society and actually impact our social fabric, even worse.
That it should have been rooted out like Huawei was yesterday.
Right, so let's open the aperture, and one more question from a news article from yesterday that I wanted to run by you, the expert.
Because you're former, what are you, like DIA?
I was with DIA.
Former Defense Intelligence Agency, worked with all the guys at Dam Neck, if you know what that means.
This is from Bloomberg.
Federal agencies warn of cyber attacks against water systems throughout the nation.
I don't want to scare anybody in the last two minutes, but If I look at the power generation system, if I look at the lack of Faraday secured systems across America, now it's supposed to be water.
Give us a grade for how naked and unprepared we are for a sustained professional nation-state sponsored cyber attack.
Give us a grade.
I would say D, maybe plus.
These hostile nation states have been probing our networks, saying, hey, we can get it, seeing what they can get away with, for years and years and years.
And from what I see, we've done nothing to stop them.
Where would it begin?
If we get the right person back in the White House, do you spend gobs of money with new feasibility studies, or are there some easy first fixes we can do?
Yeah, I think number one, you shore up your critical infrastructure.
So you do that, and what CISA is too busy focusing on Americans and policing their speech.
What's CISA?
This is the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency that is tasked with shoring up our cyber security.
With censoring conservatives.
Yeah, it appears that they've moved the aperture of their mission set, and that's what they're doing.
But no, they should be working on our hard cyber vulnerabilities, and working with the private sector to do that.
Because our critical infrastructure, you remember that list that Biden gave Putin?
Said don't touch when he got in the office, don't touch these things!
Yeah, let's start there and let's make sure that those are shored up when it comes to cybersecurity.
There's a lot of good Americans that are working on this behind the scenes right now, but guess what?
They're all Trump holdouts.
So they're all Trump people.
So if we can get conservatives in there, those guys should be given a very long leash to save the nation.
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