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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Secretary of Defense Austin still inexplicably AWOL
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We have the breaking news, finally.
We know why the Secretary of Defense of the Biden administration has gone AWOL.
He's being treated for prostate cancer.
Why did it take days and days and days for us to find out?
And why was his deputy on vacation when he went under the knife?
We'll keep you updated.
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Do you remember what the narrative was for so long in politics?
Of course there's always reality and perception.
What was the narrative?
What were we told about left and right?
For the longest time we were given Sold a bill of goods.
The left, the Democrats, care about the little guy.
The minorities and women.
The Republicans, on the other hand, ooh, they're mean.
They're selfish.
They're greedy.
They're elitists with their country club ways.
And they look down on the working man.
That was until... 2015?
2016?
That was the conventional wisdom.
Then, incredibly, along came a billionaire from Manhattan.
Well, really Queens, but Manhattan.
Who built a presidential campaign on the concept of the forgotten man.
The forgotten men and women who had been betrayed by both parties.
And his motto was to make America great again.
And he won.
The first time he ever ran.
Quite stunning.
As a result of that failure of the left's narrative, what was to be done?
What have we witnessed for the last seven years in America?
Well, Those who hate America upped the ante.
With the violent support of astroturfed, quote-unquote, social justice movements like Antifa and Black Lives Matter, the spin doctors, the talking heads, the communication experts decided to go all the way.
They started with the foundation of Hillary Clinton's original dehumanizing language of the deplorables.
Which itself, if you remember, was a version of Obama's bitter clingers.
Do you remember the bitter clingers?
The slur that conservatives cling to their Bibles and their guns.
Then the Biden administration took both of those and doubled down.
Instead of deplorable hicks who love their Bibles and their guns, the language turned to something much darker.
If you are one of the 64 million Americans who voted for President Trump the first time, or one of the 73 million who voted for him a second time, You are a threat.
From his fascistic, red-illuminated, Marine Corps propped-up speech in front of Liberty Hall to his speech yesterday in that church at the site of that shooting.
A shooting which, by the way, just for the sake of history, occurred under the Obama administration.
President Trump wasn't president for the next 18 months when that occurred.
It didn't matter.
Facts don't matter, right?
If you support President Trump, you are a MAGA extremist.
A domestic terrorist driven by, quote, white supremacy.
President Trump has to be described as an authoritarian who admires Mussolini, reads Mein Kampf, and is getting ready to establish a dictatorship.
That's all very strange, isn't it?
Given the fact that he already was president and didn't do anything dictatorial, instead of being a fascist or a Nazi or a white supremacist, he was the most philo-semitic president since the re-establishment of Israel in 1948.
A man who recognized Jerusalem and moved our embassy after three previous presidents didn't have the testicular fortitude to keep our promise to our friends in that nation.
As to white supremacy and bigotry, he actually had black and gay members in his cabinet.
He initiated unprecedented justice and penal reform and historic support to black colleges and universities.
So who are the fascists?
Who deployed the FBI to raid Mar-a-Lago, the residence of a former president?
Which administration arrested former assistants to a president for contempt of Congress?
Whose DOJ targeted a former president's lawyers, including the former mayor of New York?
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Unelected judges of which political persuasion are trying to take President Trump off the 2024 ballot?
And which side has raised indictments totaling more than 730 years in prison against the man who is technically the leader of the opposition?
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The fascists are the Democrat Party and the Biden regime.
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All right, we finally have some information.
It's taken a couple of weeks.
The Secretary of Defense allegedly is still at Walter Reed.
Now we know why he went in there for prostate cancer treatment.
Why he didn't tell anyone or why the White House didn't have to know has not been explained.
Somebody has written a piece about it for the Gateway Pundit.
He is the former.
Chief of Staff for the five-sided playpen, amongst many other things.
Kash Patel, Happy New Year!
Seb, Happy New Year.
Great to be back with you.
All right, so you know a thing or two about the five-sided playpen and also National Command Authorities.
The title of your piece is, Here's How Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin Destroyed the National Command Authority.
This is a man who was a four-star general, allegedly, so will you walk us through The story, what stinks about it, and why it is a threat to our National Command Authority as created after Goldwater Nichols in 1986.
Look, this is the most egregious violation of national security possibly during this administration.
The National Command Authority, by the Constitution and codified by Congress, mandates at all times, 24-7, 365, the Commander-in-Chief and the Secretary of Defense are the National Command Authority.
Because there's no greater importance to this country than our national defense.
I'm not saying the secretary can't take a vacation or medical leave, but there's procedures in place for when he does to notify the chain of command so that his commander-in-chief can know he's in the hospital laid up and that the chain of command can continue onto his subordinates and delegated authority.
Here's the problem, Seb.
Secretary Austin, a 40-year military man, At the head of the Pentagon decided on his own to unilaterally hide his medical condition from the White House, to not inform the Commander in Chief, to break the National Command Authority.
Now, why are people saying, what's the big deal?
Well, what if on President Trump's watch, the Secretary of Defense decided to say, I don't know, I'm going to take a few days off and not tell the boss.
What if there's a hostage rescue situation in Africa?
What if there's an outbreak of war and say, oh, I don't know, Ukraine or Israel?
What if a terrorist organization attacks us in Southeast Asia?
We cannot have a national command authority that is not stitched together yard by yard for the entire length of the field.
And Lloyd Austin's decision to intentionally withhold from the President of the United States his sickness and his sidelining jeopardizes our national security.
But most importantly, Sev, here's what it does.
The men and women who wear our uniform and who service this country on the ground have been horrifically violated in their oath to protect this nation by their command authority because their Secretary of Defense decided to mail it in and lie to the world about it.
He must resign.
There must be an investigation.
And here's what's worse now, Seb.
We're finding out that the chairman knew, the chief of staff knew, this guy.
And now they're blaming it on the equivalent of, oh, the chief of staff was out ill so she couldn't inform the White House.
That is complete BS.
Maybe we could give them one of our Patriot mobile phones so that they can actually call people.
Or maybe like two tin cans with some, you know, string between them and maybe they could like communicate.
So, you know, beyond the obscenity of it all, let's hypothesize for a moment.
You live in this world.
You eat, sleep and drink it.
From Chief Investigator for the Intelligence Committee on Capitol Hill for Devin Nunes to Deputy for National Intelligence, the Chief of Staff of the Pentagon.
Why?
Is it just arrogance?
Is it just incompetence?
Or is there another possible scenario?
Why the Secretary of Defense of the United States wouldn't tell his Commandery-in-Chief that he's going under the knife at Walter Reed?
It has to be militia, some sort of evil, basically, that I can't even understand.
And here's a fact that's not getting out there.
It's not like the Secretary went to his Deputy Secretary of Defense and said, hey, I'm out, please work with the White House and National Security Advisor and the President to make sure we're good to go on any emergencies that arise.
His deputy secretary of defense was on vacation in Puerto Rico and didn't even know her boss was in the hospital.
So she was not delegated the authorities to fill the minimal roles that were required to continue the national command authority.
And here's the thing that you have to test against the most.
The reason we have a commander in chief who is a civilian is because he is in charge of our nuclear arsenal.
Yeah.
And he cannot be in charge of that nuclear arsenal if the Secretary of Defense is missing in action and he doesn't even know it.
And Biden's decision to reject a resignation from Lloyd Austin shows you the complete and total politicization and the fact that I think they're in on it together, this political corruption cover-up, so that they can sweep it under the rug and say nothing to see here.
But Seb, all you have to ask yourself is, if Trump was president, And his secretary took a holiday and didn't bother to tell him.
What do you think CNN would be printing right now?
Well, I mean, you were there.
You were there.
So, you know, you're the deputy at National Intelligence.
If Rick Grenell just disappears, doesn't tell anybody, and if Cash says, I don't have a phone, I couldn't tell anybody, what would have happened?
Right.
Would we stop giving the presidential daily briefing?
The intelligence stops?
The defense of this nation takes a knee?
It's outrageous that these people are at the tip of the spear protecting our nation.
They have jeopardized our men and women in uniform.
They have jeopardized our relationships overseas.
And they have shown that they care more about the political headlines than the defense of this nation.
I wish Secretary Austin all the best health and a speedy recovery, but he must resign, Congress must remove him and the UCMJ must bring him up on the appropriate charges as a four-star general for abdicating his duties and oath to the Constitution of the United States.
This is really important because your military rank, even if you're out of uniform, you still maintain that rank.
Technically, okay?
That's why anyone can be actually pulled back into the military if they've served in America.
So the UCMJ absolutely applies.
Our former boss is in court today in DC.
Can we hold you over just for a few more minutes, Kash?
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An important note when it comes to our prosecutions about those who remained outside the building.
We'll see you next time.
We have used our prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building or those who engaged in violent or corrupt conduct on Capitol grounds.
But, if a person knowingly entered the restricted area without authorization, they had already committed a federal crime.
Make no mistake, thousands of people occupied an area that they were not authorized to be present in in the first place.
Wow.
Alright, I'm going to play that to you.
Three minutes.
Three minutes.
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Uh, are you on Instagram, Cash?
Nah, just truth.
Okay.
I'm just... Got titles of mine for Wilkie in the monologue?
Uh, Wilkie, um... I was raised amongst heroes.
Uh-huh.
Monologue, um... The Biden heckling or your broader monologue?
The broader, the broader stuff.
Left and right.
So...
I found America's fascists.
Thanks.
you What happened to Phil in Philly?
I don't know, he dropped off.
Phil!
Phil, call back.
Phil... Coming to DC anytime soon?
Uh, probably a couple of weeks.
I'm gonna stay here through SHOT Show.
Oh, am I gonna see you there?
Yeah, I'll be here.
Cool, I'll see you at SHOT Show.
Right on.
How many days are you going to attend?
Probably two.
It's a little overwhelming.
It's a lot.
It's just a good thing you can't buy guns there.
Probably for the best.
Unlike, I think, the NRA show, you can actually buy stuff there.
That would be dangerous.
I'd have to leave my credit cards at home.
Yeah, that's not a good thing.
Have you been to the NRA show?
Mm-hmm.
Is it a similar scale?
Nah, SHOT Show's just a different level.
Yeah.
Alright, 70 seconds.
Uh, now I'm gonna tee up cut one.
Bye.
Yeah Mm-hmm
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Attorney for Washington, D.C., called Matthew Graves, and probably for good reason.
As a former prosecutor, I have to ask you to comment on what he just said concerning It sounds like the impending arrest of hundreds, if not thousands, of more individuals concerning an event that occurred, Cash, three years ago.
Cut one.
An important note when it comes to our prosecutions about those who remained outside the building.
We have used our prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building, are those who engage in violent or corrupt conduct on capital grounds.
But, if a person knowingly entered the restricted area without authorization, they had already committed a federal crime.
Make no mistake, thousands of people occupied an area that they were not authorized to be present in in the first place.
So we've got at least, what, 16 million illegals in the country in the last three years.
We've got a murder rate in this city, in the capital we haven't seen the likes of for 27 years, with 900 carjackings in the nation's capital just last year.
Can you talk to us about what kind of person says we're going to raise felony charges against people who are outside Congress on January the 6th cash?
The key verbiage there is prosecutorial discretion.
Remember, his boss, excuse me, Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, has repeatedly lied to the world when he says, we, the Department of Justice, where I used to work, don't interfere in political election cycles.
On the January 3rd, excuse me, third anniversary of January 6th, You have the United States attorney who's leading the prosecutions for the most weaponized system of justice announce, in a presidential election year, they are going to arrest over a thousand more people who participated in their First Amendment free speech activities on January 6th.
That is the definition of the weaponization of justice.
They are trying to seize from Donald Trump and everyday Americans the right to vote in this country freely and fairly because they want to rig a presidential election.
Hey, here's an idea.
If you're going to use prosecutorial discretion to arrest everybody that was there, how many of the FBI informants will be getting arrested during your manhunt to invoke justice for January 3rd?
How about we get those statistics out to the American public?
And stop the lie that the FBI wasn't there on January 6th.
It's such a fast-moving news day.
This morning, the man who was saying we're going to take Congress the day before, Ray Epps, was given a suspended nine-month sentence when people who weren't even in the city, like the head of the Proud Boys, got a 22-year custodial sentence.
It strikes me as if these people aren't rational because it's going to bounce back, isn't it, Cash?
We see how the president's popularity is increasing.
He's in court today.
Every time they do that, he gets more money, more popularity.
This rank intimidation by the DOJ, isn't it just going to be obvious to people who aren't even political that these guys are just a Gestapo for Biden?
Well, that's just it with these government gangsters, Seb.
You know that.
They double and triple down because they think they are taking the higher road of justice when they are the ones setting the Constitution on fire.
Every time they attack Donald Trump and his supporters in state and federal court, he, Donald Trump, exposes their two-tier system of justice.
He shows the world how they are threatening our constitutional democracy by trying to seize their right to vote in a free and fair election.
And they will double and triple down.
Jack Smith already played his card and tried to take this case to the Supreme Court.
And it is going to monumentally backfire when presidential immunity is granted across the board for President Trump, as the Constitution has mandated for 250 years.
In this instance, in January 6th, what this U.S.
attorney is doing, and there's no coincidences with these guys, they systematically set up this rollout for a disinformation campaign to say, we're going after everybody on January 6th, the job's not finished.
The job will only be finished when these prosecutors themselves are investigating for violating the Constitution.
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Okay, title for that?
that? Thanks. Probably. Sec. Def. Austin deliberately didn't tell Biden.
And I think he's going to be very happy about that. I think he's going to be very happy.
Thank you.
Come in with seven.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
A couple of calls on the line.
Mm-hmm.
Thanks.
Well, the first thing I'm thinking, Larry, is I can't imagine another time in the history of our government run by Democrats or Republicans where you have a major cabinet official who's just gone missing.
We have to remember that Joe Biden ran on restoring basic decency and order to the White House.
That was his entire claim to be elected president in the first place.
They promised good government.
What they've delivered is a missing secretary.
How do you lose the Secretary of Defense for three days without anybody asking serious questions, Larry?
It just doesn't make an ounce of sense.
There are so many unanswered questions here, so many things that we don't know, and it just gives lie to the entire Biden promise that he would return decency to good government.
I take the decency that we had five years ago in the White House over losing the Secretary of Defense.
I like J.D.
Vance, and he's a former Marine, to his credit, but it's not about decency, Senator Vance.
It's about the safety of the nation.
The incumbent Secretary of Defense is six in line to the presidency.
He's an integral part of our National Command Authority.
The idea that he disappears for a week and doesn't tell the President, nobody in the White House knows, his deputy's on vacation in Puerto Rico and apparently doesn't know how to use a cell phone, that's shocking.
That's beyond incompetence.
Absolutely incredible level of dilettantism.
We're going to unpack it with a former cabinet member of the Trump administration who is the perfect person to answer the question.
Why?
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Yes.
Good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
Greetings.
And I'm here to kind of back up what Kash Katel was just saying, and also on the civil side.
That's considered a primary mission essential function.
And by presidential policy directive 40, it puts into effect a federal continuity directive one,
which basically lays out for each of the things what you have to do for a temporary,
what they call devolution is what they call, is what our secretary of defense did.
He devolved for a while, so he was not able to perform his function.
He meant he had to delegate the portions he couldn't per the code.
And that also has civil repercussions on it as well.
So he basically disobeyed a presidential directive.
Are you in the military or a civil servant?
It sounds like you know what you're talking about.
I'm both, so that's how come I know both sides of it.
I am a captain of the military specializing in emergency response, and I was with the Federal Executive Board for almost 20 years teaching this stuff.
Oh, God bless you.
God bless you.
You're absolutely right, Joe.
There's a whole system you're very familiar with, which is the continuity of government.
I actually studied that under the guy who actually built it for President Reagan, Professor Kahn's Lord at Fletcher.
We have a system in place, and you've got to follow those rules, because if there's an emergency, you can't be hunting for somebody because they're unavailable.
You're absolutely right.
He was in contravention of the regulations, and if there were an emergency, there could have been a lot more trouble.
Stay on the line, Joe.
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Greetings from sunny Arizona, and if you'll come to Phoenix, I'll buy you a cold brew.
Thank you kindly.
Happy New Year, Rick.
What brings you to our show today?
Well, I'm calling to ask you a gun question, Dr. Gorka.
You mentioned yesterday, I believe it was, that when you went to church, your pastor asked you what you were carrying.
Yes.
So my question is kind of twofold.
First of all, What do you recommend to carry at church?
And secondly, what is your opinion of the Smith & Wesson Equalizer?
Yeah, I haven't shot the Equalizer.
It's basically the latest iteration of the M&P Shield EZ, which was a real big mouthful.
I'll tell you, you know, My favorite gun in that line, I just acquired it, is the M&P 10mm.
It's a very, very impressive gun.
When I'm going to somewhere that is a potential target of bad guys, like terrorists, like mass shooters, I prefer to carry a 10mm.
The most accurate 10mm I own.
is the Desert Eagle 1911.
Yes, don't get confused, Desert Eagles are those beasts you see, but Carr uses the Desert Eagle moniker to make absolutely first-tier 1911s.
They run like they're on glass rails, it shoots like a laser, so if I'm going somewhere that could be potentially a target of attack, I carry my 10mm 1911, Rick.
Thank you for that suggestion.
And my movie question.
Yes.
I'd like to get your opine on Act of Valor.
This is the one that's been brought up several times, Alex.
This is the movie you recommended, right?
Yes, sir.
Okay, this is like, somebody's ganging up on me.
This is like the third time I've been asked about this movie.
This is the one that stars, or doesn't star, but has real Seals acting in it.
Okay, guys, I'm gonna watch it.
I promise.
All right?
I'm gonna watch it.
Alex has recommended it.
Now, you're the third according to do that.
However, this week, the Making Movies Great Again film we will be reviewing with our good buddy Chris Coles is the classic.
I think it's 1938.
The original King Kong.
But after that, at the weekend, I'll watch Act of Valor.
Thank you so much, Rick.
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Sadly they do not.
They make 40s, which are like the 10mm light, but that's... Oh!
They have, and I have one, you know the MP5, the legendary submachine gun?
Of course.
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And I have a semi-automatic version of that.
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Wow!
Yeah, it doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
They should get on that.
They should.
Although they don't really care much about serving the civilian market.
They have a reputation for... And there are lots of issues.
The gun laws in Germany are really bad when it comes to taking a military weapon and then allowing civilians to buy the semi-automatic version.
That's why you can't buy a semi-automatic G36 either.
There are people who make the clones here in America.
But yeah, there are some obstacles to H&K making the firearms that would sell like crazy, like the MP7 here in America.
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Can you try and book one of our colonel buddies to give us an update on how it's going against those beasts in Gaza?
I'll get right on it at the speed of Trump.
That's how we do it here, at the speed of Trump.
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The nature of the war we are in against the barbarians, the savages who wish to destroy Judeo-Christian civilization.
You made it the most popular item on the website.
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It's a map of Israel.
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Hi, Dr. G. You know, I'm calling because I am fuming at this Susan Sarandon.
That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A-S-T-O-R-E-D-O-T-C-O-M.
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Judy in Brooklyn!
Hi, Dr. G.
Hey!
You know, you know I'm calling because I am fuming at this Susan Sarandon.
That's what I'm calling about.
Oh, what has she done now?
Oh, what are you talking about?
She's constantly... Even now, you know, in New York, they have all these protests and Hamas protests.
Why are they protesting for crap?
She is the head of it.
She's standing there, whatever.
She needs attention, I guess.
But let me tell you something.
Susan Sarandon, her initials are SS.
As far as I'm concerned, it stands for Serving Satan, okay?
Listen, instead of campaigning, For the freedom of all these innocent hostages would be something really nice that she should do.
She continues to support these evil, bestial, Hamas people, whatever.
She supports burning babies in microwave ovens, beheading them, torturing and murdering civilians of all ages.
This is what she supports.
And you know what, Dr. G?
I hope God gives her, and others like her, and unfortunately there are many of them, exactly what she and they deserved.
I really do.
These are evil, evil people.
And Susan Sarandon, I'm telling you, I hope God gives her what she deserves.
Outrageous!
She got in trouble for her comment about, at least now the Jews know what it's like to be an Arab, a Muslim in America.
That's when her agency fired her, and then afterwards she apologized for that comment, but you're still not satisfied.
No, she's in the news today.
She's front and center of all these protests, whatever.
Do you know what they're doing over here?
They are blocking bridges.
They are blocking people going back and forth.
Sure.
She's there.
And that's why I'm fuming at this woman.
No one should talk about movies.
Do not watch any of her movies.
Don't discuss anything of her movies.
She's evil.
She's evil.
She is one of the useful idiots in Hollywood.
There are far too many of them.
Thank you, Judy.
When are they going to stand up for their own country?
When are they going to stand up for those who are suffering the onslaught of terrorism?
And when are they going to realize that if the bad guys win, they'll be at the top of the target list?
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Lord black Yes, sir.
Greetings.
How are we doing?
Good, good, good, good.
President's back in court today, however, with those lunatics.
I think it's still good publicity for him, you know?
Yeah, I mean, it is a podium and, you know, when he talks and he comes out, it's on every channel afterwards.
What did you think of Haley's performance last night?
I didn't watch it.
I have to admit, I didn't watch it last night.
Do you have a clip?
We have a clip, though.
Cut three.
Yeah, cut three.
Play cut three.
Generational leader.
I told them then we needed to leave the negativity and the baggage behind.
And I stand by that.
Look, I think President Trump was the right president at the right time.
I agree with a lot of his policies.
But rightly or wrongly, chaos follows him.
And y'all know I'm right.
Chaos follows him.
And we can't be a country in disarray and the world on fire and go through four more years of chaos.
We won't survive it.
You don't fix Democrat chaos with Republican chaos.
What did you think of her performance?
I presume you watched it?
Yeah, I did.
Look, I thought it was very good in most respects.
I give her credit for not joining these isolationists in the Republican Party in Ukraine, and I give her credit for calling it straight on that.
But I just get this feeling that she's memorized carefully a lot of answers to the questions she knows she's going to get.
And that there isn't as much solidity behind it as you would hope for.
I mean, I don't want to say she's a sort of shallow person, I don't think that, but I think she's a bit flippant and slightly diminished credibility because she's making all sorts of Declarative statements in areas that she doesn't have any background in.
Right.
But, you know, I still think that she's... I think she's now a stronger candidate than DeSantis, but I personally don't see this sort of softness in the Trump support which is going to allow her to make a race of it.
But, you know, you don't know.
I mean, you've got to wait for the voters to speak.
I think she's the In a candidate for Vice President, I think she's the winning candidate.
I thought that's what I would say.
A lot of people are floating that.
A lot of people are floating that.
Well, New Hampshire's what, just one week after Iowa?
Monday, next Monday.
Hang on, New Hampshire?
Let me check.
So, Iowa is next Monday, and then when's New Hampshire?
New Hampshire's the 23rd.
Yeah, 21st.
23rd, the next week.
Well, that's it.
I mean, if Haley can't really make gains in New Hampshire with that mouthy local governor supporting her, then the race is over.
Yeah, yeah.
Sununu, what a dreadful person.
This Austin thing... Oh, we'll discuss that now.
We'll discuss that now.
Okay, okay.
Okay, good, alright.
30 seconds.
Alright.
I'm out.
I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
Welcome back, dear friends.
Hour two of America First with me, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the 45th President
of the United States.
And God willing, if we do our part, he will be the 47th as well.
He's back in court today in Washington, D.C.
We will discuss that with our guest.
But first, let's talk about the scandal du jour, which is of course the Secretary of Defense absent without leave.
Welcome back to America First, Lord Conrad Black.
Thanks, Sebastian.
Always a pleasure.
So, uh, for 10 days, we know nothing except that his deputy wasn't aware that allegedly because they were on vacation, the Biden White House wasn't informed.
Today, all the chyrons on all the cable news channels are saying that he was being treated for prostate cancer.
I presume it didn't go well, and that's why he ended up in the ICU.
But given the fact that we're talking about the man who is six in line to the presidency, who is an integral part of the National Command Authority, Your reaction to the way this scandal was managed?
Yeah, I'm not sure if the scandal... Obviously it wasn't managed well at all.
When the Secretary of Defense has to take a leave of absence for health reasons, he does have an obligation to tell the President and follow whatever protocols there are in the administration for issuing a release describing, you know, his absence and the reason for it and the expected length of it.
But to me, what is the most shocking thing is the evidence this produces of how Unattached, the President is, to the principal activities of his administration.
I mean, can you, I put this to your listeners, can anyone hearing us at this time imagine any previous President in living memory, anyone, going back to Roosevelt or Herbert Hoover, not being aware that his Defense Secretary, or in the Roosevelt days, War Secretary, Who was absent, not present, and they didn't know where he was.
And the assistant in the department, the deputy secretary, was on holiday.
Nothing wrong with that.
But then that person didn't know where he was.
I mean, it's a company.
I mean, a ma and pa store selling hardware and groceries wouldn't operate like that.
And it's just completely astonishing to me.
Uh, it just presents a picture of a ship with no oars and no rudder.
I mean, nobody knows what anybody's doing, and as it turns out, some of the key people aren't doing anything.
And that's what's shocking to me.
I think the Secretary certainly Made a mistake and not them. I suppose his motive was he
thought he thought when when he went in It would only be a day or two no reason to say anything and
then and then he just you know either was sedated or something and nobody thought to
put things right, but That is a pretty sloppy business, but I don't see it as a
scandal I see it as indicative of an administration where key people don't talk to each other.
There's no coordination and there isn't much administration.
With that said, I've always thought that Secretary Austin was one of the relatively bright lights of that administration.
I mean, there are lots of things in the Defense Department I don't like, but at least he appears to have a sensible idea of national security and the national interest.
And, you know, I remember him saying the Chinese aren't ten feet tall, and things like this, that by the standards of this administration are relatively resolute.
So I have no animus to him at all.
I frankly thought he was the best of their cabinet.
But given the fact that this is also the same person who said in congressional testimony that he has, quote, no regrets on how the withdrawal of Afghanistan was handled under his tenure, I presume we can expect zero consequences for this, whether or not it's a scandal is beside the point.
But Republicans are calling for his resignation.
I presume that our expectation should be that, you know, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, various of these cabinet members have done things that in any administration, anyone listening to us at this moment, or either of us could recall, they would have been fired for.
Mayorkas is one.
In my opinion, Garland is one.
Personally, I think Kerry is one.
But, you know, nobody gets fired because nothing is so outrageous and egregious that it is outside the very liberal latitudinarian parameters permitted for incompetence in this administration.
And I don't want to be gratuitous, but I'm afraid that example was set by the president himself and the vice president.
I mean, given their performance, who are they to fire anybody for anything?
Well, let's talk about his boss, who yesterday was heckled at the church in South Carolina, where nine years ago, before President Trump became president, there was a mass shooting.
He was heckled by those who are pro-Hamas and who were demanding a ceasefire in the Middle East.
In that speech in a church, he seemed to double down on the rhetoric we've witnessed in the last 10 years from Obama through Clinton to the current incumbent.
First it was deplorables, then it was, first it was bitter clingers under Obama, then it became deplorables, and now it is the MAGA extremists and the president himself, President Trump, being called the threat to democracy It appears to me, Lord Black, as if the strategy hasn't changed.
They're doubling down on this incredibly inflammatory rhetoric, and that's their campaign platform for the next ten months?
That's all I've got.
Trump hate and Trump fear.
And it's a fraud.
It's always been a fraud.
I mean, in discussion with you, we both many times lamented and decried the fact that the Democrats and their partners in the media, national political media, were of the view that Trump, that they had an unlimited right to investigate Trump, to cast aspersions on his integrity, to state that he was a compulsive lawbreaker and a menace to a law-abiding society, and they maintained the complete and total fraud of the Russia-Trump collusion argument for two years, and then that spurious impeachment, first impeachment, where they, you know, they
Squeeze all the juice out of that lemon they could, even though it now comes to light that Trump was asking very soft-pointed questions about matters that we now know were an intercontinental influence peddling operation run by the Biden family for decades.
And this is just more of the same.
We start from the premise Trump is bad, and therefore we have to keep a bad person out of the White House.
I mean, why is he bad?
Well, that's all we've got.
again meanwhile of course we are talking about uh... administration several of his senior members deserve
to be impeached and removed for incompetence
and uh... a uh...
a first family who's who's uh...
integrity has been severely undermined and um... and uh... and and uh... who by any reasonable
criterion made an absolute shambles of of uh...
conducting the country's business and how significant should we take the news that obama has
been communicating his concerns to biden
that his campaign is too weak and trump is just too strong I don't know either person, either President Obama or President Biden, so I can't give much insight into how their minds work.
I think, look, the obvious thing is Obama appears to be the premier Democrat, the most admired Democrat in the country and the one with the most credibility in that party.
And he's right to be concerned.
I mean, it doesn't look like a winning ticket right now.
Whether that means that he's trying to set things up for his wife to run for president or something like that, that's possible.
But I don't know enough to say whether I think it's the case or not.
Well, she did give an interview, I think, just last night to a podcast.
Interestingly, a podcast on mental health, where she said she's terrified of what 2024 will bring.
Is she going to step into the ring herself?
We hear this every day from certain conservative commentators.
I don't buy it for a millisecond, but stranger things have happened.
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Oh, play Gutfeld in the break.
Play Cut 4.
I wonder what he thinks that Joe is doing wrong.
I mean, is he basically realizing, like everybody else, that you can't campaign alone on demonizing half the population. You know,
a beautiful thing happened on X this weekend after Biden's demonic speech, a phrase trended
for almost, I don't know, 60 hours. Hashtag Dementia Hitler. Sounds horrible, right?
It's cruel. I agree. Democrats, you created that. You know, you didn't think the Hitler
door would swing both ways, but The same people that you demonized for years have learned from the masters, and that's you.
So now, I think Obama is saying, alright, you've gone too far.
When all of this stuff, this January 6th stuff, is now entering the realm of mockery, right?
No one but teary-eyed performance artists at MSNBC are taking it seriously.
It's now considered a joke among most people.
Because it was overplayed.
Maybe he's saying, you know what?
Maybe you should dig out some policies or some ideas.
Because right now, this is just pathetic.
Actually, that's really good.
Come in with that, Eric.
Come in with that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's really good.
Is the new book out yet or is it still in galleys?
It's being printed now and yours is on your way to you.
You haven't got it yet?
Not yet.
Who's that?
Who's the publisher?
New English Review, Nashville, Tennessee.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Wow.
Rebecca Bynum.
You probably know her.
New English Review.
You're excellent.
Look, I promised to send you...
I promised to send you something, I'm trying to remember what it was, but I did do it, didn't I?
It was the list from Mar-a-Lago.
Oh yeah, of the people who've snapped and gone crazy over Trump.
Wasn't that interesting?
I don't know if I got it.
I don't know if I got it.
Oh, all right.
Oh, my God.
I'll dig it up for you.
Hang on.
And the book is on its way to you.
Super.
Yeah.
No, nothing from you since December.
So please do send me that list.
That would be super.
I'll do it.
Wonderful.
All right, one minute.
Come in with Greg Gutfeld.
We'll talk about that and then I'll tee up the Nikki Haley cut.
Yep.
And then, hang on, what do I have here?
Oh, before I, after Gutfeld, before we go back to Lord Black, I'll do the cruise.
Cruise.
The cruise tease.
25 seconds. Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I wonder what he thinks that Joe is doing wrong.
I mean, is he basically realizing, like everybody else, that you can't campaign alone on demonizing half the population?
You know, a beautiful thing happened on X this weekend.
After Biden's demonic speech, a phrase trended for almost, I don't know, 60 hours.
Hashtag Dementia Hitler.
Sounds horrible, right?
It's cruel.
I agree.
Democrats, you created that.
You know, you didn't think the Hitler door would swing both ways, but now it does.
The same people that you demonized for years have learned from the masters, and that's you.
So now, I think Obama is saying, alright, you've gone too far.
When all of this stuff, this January 6th stuff, is now entering the realm of mockery, Right?
No one but teary-eyed performance artists at MSNBC are taking it seriously.
It's now considered a joke among most people because it was overplayed.
Maybe he's saying, you know what?
Maybe you should dig out some policies or some ideas because right now, this is just pathetic.
Policies?
Ideas?
What, in an election year?
Good for Greg Gutfeld.
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Lord Blank, was it not inevitable, as Greg Gutfeld points out, that after six, seven years of the calumny of, he's a bigot, he's a white supremacist, he's a Nazi, he's a fascist, that sooner or later it would boomerang against the Biden administration, especially after the speech yesterday where they called out in a church Donald Trump as the threat to democracy?
It was inevitable, was it not?
I think it was in this way that they could get away with it in the sense that they could utter it and have their followers approve of it.
Their opponents not go completely off the charts and objection and perhaps influence a few independents, as long as they were saying Trump's an extremist, he's unpredictable, he's capable of bad things.
I mean, I think that's rubbish, but you can make some mileage with it.
It's not the best way to campaign, but it's not suicidal.
But it's like a mouse creeping up on the cheese in the mouse trap.
When you get to the word Hitler, that's when everything blows up in your face.
You simply cannot compare any politician ever nominated in the history of the United States
by a serious political party to the highest office in the country.
Anyone.
You can't compare him to Hitler.
And fine, they're taking advantage of the fact that a great many people have only a
vague idea of what Hitler did.
But even at that, almost everybody knows he murdered millions of innocent people and he
plunged the world into war.
He was a racist and an absolute dictator and an insane and criminally diseased mind, a
talented man, but an evil man.
And you just can't do it.
You've triggered the atomic bomb, and you've got a mushroom cloud over your campaign.
You can't call Trump Hitler.
I mean, you can call him all kinds of things, but not that.
Let's look at the race on the other side.
There was a town hall with Nikki Haley where a phrase was used that we've heard so many times before.
It seems to be one of the pillars of her campaign.
It's to do with quote-unquote chaos.
Cut three, Nikki Haley.
And I told him then we needed a new generational leader.
I told him then we needed to leave the negativity and the baggage behind.
And I stand by that.
Look, I think President Trump was the right president at the right time.
I agree with a lot of his policies.
But rightly or wrongly, chaos follows him.
And y'all know I'm right.
Chaos follows him.
And we can't be a country in disarray and the world on fire and go through four more years of chaos.
We won't survive it.
You don't fix Democrat chaos with Republican chaos.
Lord Black, in a couple of weeks' time I think all of this will be moot, but with that clip we hear this phrase that I've heard so many times from Haley that rightly or wrongly, which is a strange way to qualify anything, either something should be right or it should be wrong, chaos You put your finger on it.
The problem with what she said is that she is dodging the basic underlying fact.
seems to be hobbled at some point. If he was the right president then, why isn't
he the right president now? Yeah, you put your finger on it.
The problem with what she said is that she is dodging the basic underlying fact.
The reason for the chaos was not in an active sense Trump.
The reason for the chaos was the hysteria that he generates in his democratic opponents who raise specters of Hitler and Nazism and so forth.
And that is just a smear job.
It is the most colossal smear job in American history.
And if a person is hideously defamed, do we blame that person?
Do we say, You know, the air is full of epithets and defamatory comments, and therefore the person who's being defamed is to blame for it.
Chaos follows him.
Never mind that it's defamation and not fair comment.
And that's the problem.
Her argument is, frankly, dishonest.
What is your measure?
We've got a minute and a half left of her greatest opponent in the last few months is clearly Vivek Ramaswamy.
What is your measure of his performance?
I think he's run out of steam.
I think he was a refreshing candidate in a way and he's clearly a very intelligent young man and I think there could be, you know, this could ten years from now be seen as his introduction to federal
politics in which he has a distinguished career but at this point I
think he's a jack-in-the-box who jumps up and makes self-serving comments but I think...
And strangely for his age a neo-buchananite isolationist.
Well there's a bit of that and not only his age but you know the fact that he's
relatively recent overseas ancestor I'm not saying that as a criticism, but you'd think he'd have more of a worldview, given that I think his parents were from overseas.
And he's precisely the sort of people you want to attract to the country.
That's not a rap on him, it's just odd that it leads to isolationist thinking.
Look, a man who says we should support Taiwan as long as we're getting most of our, you know, element of high technology out of them, that sort of thing.
I mean, you just can't say that, you know, and you can't even think that way if you want to be president.
I mean, it's just, there's something...
Not growing up about him, but with that said, he's very intelligent.
He could be a very substantial political figure and he's got plenty of time to get there.
But he needs to do his homework, especially on matters of national security.
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It's seemingly so obvious that what your talking point is you blame the victim of the smear for the smear.
How do her speechwriters not see how fallacious that is?
Well, I think that must be one she worked up herself.
Yeah.
As a way to... Don't.
What they're trying to do is get the Trump vote and take the Trump vote away from Trump.
Yeah.
So, you know, which is not... It's like trying to take a person out of his skin, you know?
It's not an easy thing to do and still have a living, you know, a survivor.
But the... I think it's...
You put your finger on it, that expression, rightly or wrongly, gives the whole story away.
I mean, he's saying this may be wrong, but never mind that it's wrong, we've got to respond to it.
I mean, we don't really agree with all these horrible allegations against Trump, but too bad they're making these horrible allegations, so let's not have him because he's too controversial.
They won't make those allegations against me.
And the point you made, who is the generator of the chaos?
It's not the man, it's his opposition.
Yeah, and the reason for the chaos is they're so afraid of him, and the people who are afraid of him are precisely those who Mrs. Haley quite articulately describes as a terribly inept administration.
And it looks like something is live, by the way, Seb.
Oh my gosh, look at that!
What a beautiful image.
Eric's got the cover of your book, The Political and Strategic History of the World, Volume 1.
Oh my gosh, nice design.
They did a bang-up job.
Very nice.
Does that mean it's arrived there?
I hope it does.
No, no, he's found it online.
He's found the book online and he's just put it up on the screen.
Very nice job.
Did you give them input or did they do that?
They did it, but I approved it.
I thought they did a very good job.
Very nice.
Very nice.
I'm all the more excited.
The four figures there are Moses, Socrates, Alexander the Great, and Julius Caesar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I recognized Caesar and Alexander.
Oh, Moses, of course, on the left.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The beard.
The beard gives it away.
The man with the biggest beard of all.
Yeah, yeah.
It's either that or Charlton Heston.
Yes, indeed.
Allegedly he was hired for that role in part because his proboscis is very similar to Michelangelo's statue of Moses.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Notice he broke while boxing, so he thanked his boxing career for the casting in that movie.
You know, look, he was a man of sensible opinions.
I mean, those were the days when a lot of actors made sense, you know, politically.
No, solid man.
Solid man.
That was a lot.
Lots of fun.
Thank you so much.
Thanks, Conrad.
God bless.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Title for that one?
Trump fear is all they've got.
Put it in quotes.
yep it's only volume one by the way
What, what, what?
I keep reminding myself, that's only volume one, by the way.
I know.
I want to come in here.
I want to come in here and I want to kill everything.
Alright, where's the snow?
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Let's go to your calls, Illinois Joe.
Is it snowing in Illinois, Joe?
I concede.
Yeah, we're not going to have a Michelle Obama.
Excuse me, you kind of lost me there.
I asked you whether it's snowing in Illinois and you said we're not having Obama on the show.
We're not going to have an Oprah.
You know, it's just Michelle has a great left hook.
You know, that's what put 16 stitches into Obama's lip.
Joe, you're kind of losing me again.
Why did you call the show?
What is your comment?
What is your question, Joe?
I'm going to try one more time.
My comment is that, you know, all the Democrats are thinking about Michelle Obama, which, you know, she's a strong woman.
She's got a good left hook.
And or an Oprah, you know, to, you know, try to lead the Democratic Party.
It's just not happening.
You know, they're too comfortable.
Well, that's what I've been saying.
That's what I've been saying for three years now.
The idea that people who get tens of millions of dollars for doing nothing like their Netflix contracts Why would they actually work for a living?
And look what happened to Obama himself.
Take a photograph of Obama on his inauguration and then look at him the day he left.
He was, he aged like 30 years in eight years.
The idea that Michelle would put herself through that, not buying it for a millisecond.
Let's go to Brent, Los Angeles.
America's de facto General Gorka!
Thank you kindly.
What would you like to talk about today, Brent?
Well, I was thinking, when General Lloyd Austin intentionally went AWOL to secretly receive bottom surgery, and knowingly ignored that his second-in-command was on vacation in Puerto Rico, didn't he knowingly telegraph to the Chinese, Russians, and Iranians that he was just as serious, patriotic, and loyal a military man as Admiral Rachel Levin?
And didn't his traitorous inaction knowingly leave America spread-eagled to a fully unopposed nuclear first strike?
Yeah, I'm not sure I'd use the word traitorous for that event.
I think it's dereliction of duty and I do agree with our friend Kash Patel that he should be brought up on UCMJ, the criminal justice charges, as a former general.
I think you can use that term, for example, Brent, with regards to what he did in Afghanistan because his decision to Leave behind more than $80 billion worth of military material.
When we handed that material over to the Taliban, just one statistic, you know, forget the hundreds of thousands of assault rifles, handguns, sidearms, heavy machine guns, when we left all of that equipment there, Afghanistan became the largest owner of Black Hawk helicopters outside of America. Think about that. More than any other
NATO nation. That is treasonous. Why?
Because you are consciously, willingly providing aid, comfort, and succor to our enemies,
the Taliban, who, if we recall our recent history, were the people that gave
support and all kinds of logistical assistance to al-Qaeda before September 11.
So yes, absolutely my friend, treason then, dereliction of duty now.
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Yeah, I'm going to use the... AOC?
I'm going to talk AOC.
I'm going to talk AOC, but we'll take this call.
We'll take Charlotte.
Want me to block the lines?
What?
Want me to block the lines?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's talk AOC, Charlotte, and then...
Oh, we still have the Mayorkas cut, which is enraging.
If anything, they're probably fudging the numbers like Obama did.
Remember, they changed the definition of deportation.
Totally, right.
Yeah.
And that bothers me, too.
And I see, like, hard-right, you know, never-Trumpers, like, and-culture types who always say, Oh, Obama deported more illegals than Trump did.
They're going along with the Obama numbers.
But they, unironically, you know, Pedro and the rest of them, they're all on that train.
Yeah, she's lost it.
One minute.
This is regular relief here, right, Alex?
Oh Mhm.
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Yeah?
Mm-hmm.
Thanks for watching.
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A legal immigrant.
Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
That's me, a legal immigrant, unlike the illegals, the millions of them who've crossed over our border, who, according to the Secretary of Homeland Security, haven't crossed across our border because, well, that's all they know how to do is lie, lie, lie.
Cut six.
In fact, the majority of all migrants encountered at the Southwest border throughout this administration have been removed, returned, or expelled.
A majority of them.
We are doing everything we can, within a broken system, to incentivize non-citizens to use lawful pathways, to impose consequences on those who do not, and to reduce irregular migration.
Well, that's a lie because you've let at least 8 million illegals that we know of, but you don't tell anybody in those clips what?
That you're allowing the illegals to download the DHS app in Mexico and pre-register themselves as what?
Asylum seekers.
That's a crime.
In international law, if you are an asylum seeker, meaning you're being persecuted for your political or religious beliefs or your ethnicity, you have to apply for asylum in the first country you enter after leaving home.
Which means if you're coming from Haiti, if you're coming from Afghanistan, you don't get to cross half a dozen nations.
And then choose to come to America.
You're a liar, Alejandro Mayorkas.
We know why you're doing it.
Let's go to your calls.
Charlotte, Pittsburgh, Line 3.
Yes, I'm calling because I'm very upset about what Michael Graves, the U.S.
Attorney for D.C., is embarking on.
We all have to understand and he has to understand that the Capitol is the people's house.
And my country, Kisovi, is the land of the noble free.
Your land what?
What did you say?
Your land what?
The land of the noble free.
Okay.
And that's what we are, the noble free.
We're not the despicables.
So, those people in D.C., these leftists, have to understand that it's not going to go their fascist way.
But why isn't it?
It's been going that way for three years, Charlotte.
Well, I think that people have to understand that they are the noble free here.
But what does that mean, Charlotte?
Understand?
What does that mean?
They're doing it.
They're arresting people and putting them in prison for 22 years, who weren't even here on January 6th, Charlotte.
Can you be a bit more specific?
Well, for one thing, all I can do is I keep calling the Congress members and telling them my opinion on things.
Good.
Good.
Every single day.
Are you writing to them as well?
No, I don't write.
You should.
You should.
I call them all.
And they even called the chairman of the immigration, McClintock, and they didn't even want to hear
me because I wasn't one of their constituents.
But he's sitting as chairman of the immigration in the House of Representatives and doesn't
want to hear from the rest of the country.
I say bombard his phone.
Absolutely.
But let me give you a little bit of advice, OK?
It's important to call, but, and I know it sounds a little bit strange, but it's true, in congressional statistics, a written letter and an email, it depends upon which congressman or congresswoman's office is doing the calculating, is worth more than 20 phone calls.
It's a physical thing, right?
It arrives, whether electronically or through the mail, they print it out and they have to put them in a big stack, so calls are just fielded by interns, okay?
The intern who sits there, takes the call, makes a tick, this person doesn't like this legislation or this person doesn't like what the congressman is doing, but Charlotte, this goes not just to Charlotte, everybody out there who's listening, Write.
Write to them.
Let them feel the heat.
Tell them you'll never vote for them again.
Or, even better, you're organizing other people to not vote for them.
And as a result, well, what's the only thing these people care about, Charlotte?
The only thing they care about is re-election at the end of the day.
I've got to share with you a clip from that genius, that mastermind, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, and I'd like the team to pitch in here.
This is AOC's criticism of the House Republicans when it comes to the Biden crime family.
The move by Republicans on impeachment in the House, do you think it's inevitable they will move to impeach the President?
You know, they are certainly trying.
What we're seeing, though, is that they can't even name what they would impeach the president for.
We're seeing this.
This case has come right before the House Oversight Committee, over which I'm the vice chair to, or rather, vice ranking member to ranking member Raskin.
And we have had countless closed-door sessions, closed-door depositions.
We've had open-door hearings about this.
And the Republican Party cannot even name what the crime is That they are alleging the president or frankly anybody else that they're trying to investigate to have committed.
I love when she says what the crime is, and she raises her fingers, crime, and puts little quote marks.
What the crime is.
What do we think of that, Alex?
AOC says the Republicans don't even know what they're accusing Joe Biden of.
What's your reaction?
She should tune in to the show, because we talk about it every day.
She should tune in to the show.
Eric, your reaction?
I think what she's going for, and I've criticized the Republican Party for this, the Republicans are constantly throwing out, there's no shortage of crimes that the Biden family has committed.
So there's not a single one big one, you know, like with Trump and the Ukraine intimidation, quote unquote.
So I think if the Republicans did a better job of framing the narrative of this is the one set of crime, you know, the Hunter Biden, the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, then sure.
But she's just trying to exploit that.
But the old plethora of information to make it sound as if there's not a single cohesive
crime here.
Because there's been too much of a scattergun approach by the Republicans?
Exactly, yes.
Because there's all these stories.
There's Chinese businessmen giving him diamonds, and then, you know, the mayor of Moscow's wife.
You know, again, if we kept to one single story, then they'd have no choice but to deny it.
Let's ask you, what should that one single story should have been?
Should it have been the Ukrainian prosecutor getting fired?
Should it have been the deal from China?
What is the one thing that would have really resonated, do you think?
I think Eric possibly has expertise to answer this question.
But as Eric and Alex said, it seems like AoC believes she knows everything, but she doesn't.
Yeah, I think that is the most diplomatic thing we could say about that person.
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Thank you.
So.
Coming in with versus AI.
Oh good, yeah.
Versus AI top Did you all see Christopher Nolan won Best Director? No,
Golden Globes?
For what?
For Oppenheimer?
My absolute favorite.
Did you see the clip, Alex?
Neil Druckmann showed up at the red carpet and not a single photographer took a picture.
Who's that?
He's the guy who took over The Last of Us and basically made it super woke.
He destroyed Naughty Dog, one of the best studios in the game.
He fired like all the other top people there.
Total SJW.
And he's just standing there.
You hear not a single camera shutter click at all.
He's just standing there, you know.
Hello darkness, my old friend.
It was so bad.
Hope it was worth it, Neil.
So is the book available for order or pre-order, Alex?
Oh, the black book.
It's like it's available to order.
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I'm so sorry.
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All right, before we get down to our one-on-one with former Cabinet Member, Secretary of Veterans Affairs on the whole Lloyd Austin scandal, I think we've got time for one more cut.
I'm going to ask Alex.
Guy very deftly sideswiped the question.
He said, Eric knows better!
I'm going to go straight to Alex for this one.
Do we go with lunatic transvestite transgenders at McDonald's or clinical imbeciles on The View?
Alex, the choice is yours.
Let's go to The View.
The View?
Alright, we'll do that.
Sonny Hostin, of all the people who should not be commenting on anyone dumbing anything down, this is Sonny Hostin on this year's election.
What we're seeing by the Republican Party, and I give it to them, we're seeing a long game.
We're seeing that they are dismantling or attempting to dismantle institutions.
All of a sudden, the most elite colleges and universities in the world, which by the way, they all went to.
Everybody in the Supreme Court went there.
Elise Stefanik went there.
All the Congress people went there.
Ted Cruz went there.
Those schools are not good enough anymore because I think, because now people that don't look like them, we're getting in.
Affirmative action?
No more.
Why?
So that people that don't look like them don't get in.
Women don't have reproductive rights anymore over their own bodies.
Why?
So they can have power over women.
Why is French and Mandarin and Spanish being taken away from our public schools?
So that we can be a monolistic, a monolingual society and can't compete globally?
We, the Republicans, are intentionally dumbing down our electorate, erasing history, so that past can become prologue, and so they can remain in power.
I swear she's got squirrels in her cranium.
Mandarin at French in public schools?
That's the problem?
Not the fact that nobody knows how to write English in the public schools in Baltimore?
Yeah, right Sonny Hostin.
You keep believing that.
Because people with brains don't.
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you you
you We have to remember that Joe Biden ran on restoring basic decency and order to the White House.
That was his entire claim to be elected president in the first place.
They promised good government.
What they've delivered is a missing secretary.
How do you lose the Secretary of Defense?
How do you lose the Secretary of Defense?
And as of this morning, we still don't know why he's in the ICU at Walter Reed.
That is Secretary J.D.
Vance again.
Sorry, Senator J.D.
Vance.
A former Marine, by the way, asking a very pertinent question.
A question that, well...
Our enemies will be looking at very very closely.
Let's dive deeply into this issue.
What it means, not just for politics and for the state of command and control inside the administration, But from national security perspectives that affect you, there really is no one better to discuss this than a man who rose to the cabinet level in the Trump administration as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, who prior to that, in the Pentagon, probably had the toughest job outside of the Oval Office, which is to make sure that all our soldiers, airmen, Marines, Coast Guards,
Good to see you.
ready for war. He's a very good friend of the show. He's now with the American First
Policy Institute. He's senior strategic advisor for Newsmax.
Secretary Robert Wilkie, welcome to America First.
Good to see you. Very difficult subject for the world and for the United States.
So you said something before we started that there is, of course, the much hallabaloo around
John Ashcroft when he was in hospital and his deputies and the certain signing of a
document under the Bush administration.
But you have a story to tell about Bob Gates, a prior Secretary of Defense.
So, I was Assistant Secretary of Legislative Affairs and it's important for people to realize that Barry Goldwater changed, transformed the Department of Defense.
In 1986, passed the Goldwater Act, which did a couple of things.
One, it removed the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs from the chain of command and created two national command authorities, the President and the Secretary of Defense.
And let me give you a number before I get into the particulars.
Fifteen minutes.
That's how much warning time a Secretary of Defense will have if a missile comes out of Pyongyang or Russia or Iran or China.
We have never had, since President Truman created the Defense Department, a Secretary of Defense go AWOL.
So let me give you the example that I use, having lived through this once.
As Assistant Secretary of Legislative Affairs, I was informed in the evening that Secretary Gates had slipped on ice and destroyed his shoulder.
I was tasked It was my writ to inform immediately the leaders of the Congress that the Secretary had hurt himself.
First of all, he's not going to show up at a hearing.
That he may require surgery, but plans are in place, if that occurs, for the deputy to step in.
As a Trump cabinet official, we had a two-pronged system.
I had to go to Walter Reed for Achilles surgery.
We informed two offices.
We informed the cabinet secretary, and we informed the chief of staff.
So people knew where you were as a cabinet member.
And in the Trump world, if you walked into the cabinet secretary's office, and she was responsible for maintaining contact with all of us, she had a massive chart on the wall with our pictures, and pictures where we were at any time, anywhere on the planet, so that the president knew whom to touch.
The problem here is obviously you have removed One of the national command authorities.
Now, the Biden foreign policy is such a mess that nobody took notice of it.
But you said something in the intro.
The world is watching.
And we are ripe.
And I said this yesterday to a national television audience.
One of the most important memories I have as a child, or as a youngster, actually, a young teenager, I was at a JV football game the week after the hostages were taken in Tehran, a football game right outside of Fort Bragg.
And I can remember the history teachers sitting in front of me.
One of them said, anybody who wants us can have us.
And that stuck with me.
Explain what he meant.
Maybe a bit younger.
She was talking about the capture.
Of hundreds of Americans.
Of hundreds of Americans in Tehran by the so-called students of the Ayatollah.
I mean they were professional revolutionaries.
And America was held hostage.
The toothless giant.
And remember this community that I'm talking about is the home of the All-American Division, the 82nd Airborne, the Special Forces of the United States Army.
Today it's a much bigger footprint because it has the Joint Special Operations Command.
These were the most decorated and the elite of the army, certainly in the 1970s.
And they were just a toothless tiger.
And no sooner had that happened than, and you and I have talked about this, this massive billboard went up outside the entrance to Fort Bragg that said, Iran, let our people go.
We'd become this mendicant, begging the theocratic fanatics to let our people go.
And we had, God bless him, he's not doing well right now, Mr. Carter, In the White House.
But let me just finish.
There's a difference between Mr. Carter and Mr. Biden.
Mr. Carter genuinely loves America.
Well, and served in the Navy as a boomer.
Served in the Navy.
But he also, and it is to his credit, he had an epiphany.
He said, I was wrong.
You know, he made that speech at Notre Dame about the inordinate fear of communism.
And he did put in train The B-1 bomber, Minuteman II, Abrams tank didn't save his presidency, but it gave Reagan the base.
But Senator Vance is right.
This has never happened in the post-World War II nuclear America.
Now, I don't want you to give away anything that's sensitive.
But the mainstream legacy media is saying, well, it doesn't really matter because if we need to go to war, you don't need the Secretary of Defense.
The president can do it by himself.
But my reaction is, you don't even know where he is.
And then his deputy is on vacation in Puerto Rico.
I mean, the whole thing is irrisible.
The scenario that I gave you for the Trump cabinet is all about redundancy.
Redundancy in the system, it's a fail safe, where everybody is in on the plan, and you don't have any gaps in the event of.
This is the mainstream media that was so vigilant, it didn't even notice the guy was gone.
And didn't notice that we had a transportation secretary who went away for two months.
You know, in my case, because the media was so hostile to the president and to all of us, if I didn't have anything on my official schedule, the Washington Post and the New York Times would descend on our press people.
Where is he?
Why isn't he doing his job?
Yet, this crowd, in fact, we just had a, he's no longer at VA, a deputy who'd come into Washington, deputy secretary, once a month.
He lived in Denver.
This is the Biden administration?
This is the Biden administration.
But the professionals are in charge.
This is on top of, and here's the kick, this is on top of Americans being attacked 110 times.
Yes.
And this administration begging, begging with the massive carrier task force in the Red Sea, begging people like Spain to send frigates so we could have the patina of international support when Americans are being hurt.
Go back to my high school, junior high school.
Anybody who wants us can have us.
And that's the road these people are on.
But the broader point, or the meta point, is so well taken that for all his weaknesses as a statesman, it is clear that Carter loved America and was a patriot.
He got it wrong, he didn't know how to lead, but he didn't hate America.
That's the big difference today, that we live in this bizarre Modern age, where the leaders of Western nations detest their own country.
And when you detest your own country and are incompetent, that is a witch's brew.
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Secretary Wilkie, this is the luxury of having the long-form interview and we're so glad
to have you in studio.
You mentioned 1986 and the Goldwater-Nichols Act that really changed the personnel structure for the uniformed military and also the chain of command, the role of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Could you give us your take, because it is deemed to have Created simplistically the the inter-service jointness, the purpleness of the modern military.
Some will say that had its downsides with rotations in and out of billets that took officers away from their primary mission.
Now that we've had 50 years of this act, where do we stand?
Does it have to be tweaked?
Give us your take because you were responsible for readiness.
I think it does need a re-look and a revision.
But let's talk about what set it up.
If anybody wants to see it in the flesh, Clint Eastwood's movie Heartbreak Ridge, the scene where they hit Grenada.
That was originally supposed to be the 82nd Airborne Division, but the commander then didn't like the language and told Eastwood to take a hike.
Oh, really?
Then the Marine Corps said, we'll do it.
And this famous scene where the young lieutenant is trying to call in fire, his communications are shot, he can't talk to the ship, so he uses a credit card to call back, in this case he called back to Camp Lejeune, but in real life they call back to Fort Bragg.
That was why we lost people.
We lost SEALs.
I think more SEALs in one accident than in the history of that force, when they dropped them into surf without the right intelligence, and so many of them drowned.
And also Desert One, correct?
I don't know that.
The impact of the failed mission in Desert One.
Oh, Desert One.
Yes, Desert One.
Yes, yes, yes.
Absolutely.
But Grenada was the tipping point, because we were taking on Cuban, ragtag Cubans.
So what was the mission of Goldwater?
Goldwater Nichols was to modernize the rivalry.
I mean, Harry Truman said he realized that if the Navy and the Army had spent more time fighting the Japanese than themselves, then the war would have been over in 1943.
So that dreaded D.C.
phrase, interoperability.
Interoperability.
And Goldwater believed that.
And it was necessary at the time.
But it fundamentally changed the personnel system.
People like my father could spend an entire career on one street at Fort Bragg.
Just change the color of their beret.
It was either red or green.
Explain, for example, that kind of career path.
So at one end of Ardennes Street is the 82nd Airborne.
At the other end is the United States Army Special Forces, the JFK School for Special Warfare, what have you.
And then there's the 18th Airborne Corps Headquarters.
This is in the 70s.
So you could spend, you didn't have to go to Washington.
Goldwater Nichols wanted people who could be comfortable in the highest echelons of power.
Meaning coming to billets to D.C.?
Yes, coming to billets to D.C.
My read on what has happened is that we've taken, one, too many people away from the force.
I mean, I've seen careers where once these folks become colonels, they spend more than half of their career inside that ugly building.
And they lose touch, and they become prey to the town.
Well, and in many cases, they become political actors.
They become very political actors.
Not in the traditional sense that George Marshall or Dwight Eisenhower knew how to navigate the halls of Congress or what have you, the bureaucracy.
And that leads to the politicization of the corps, of the officer corps.
And I think we need to take a really close look at that.
The other thing that the first, the National Security Act of 47, that Goldwater Nichols did, it really made eunuchs of the service secretaries.
I mean, they give speeches.
I mean, their mission is to organize, train, and equip.
But you have these massive bureaucracies that go with these people.
You have the massive bureaucracy of the joint staff.
And then you have the bureaucracies of the combatant commanders.
And I'm not making this policy statement as a definitive statement of how I think.
But it's interesting that Franklin Roosevelt conducted a global war, 15 million Americans under arms.
And the Navy was in charge of the Pacific, and the Army was in charge of Europe.
Yeah.
Now, there were certain subcommands, but really, it was Admiral King and Admiral Nimitz who were running the Pacific, and General Marshall and General Eisenhower running Europe.
A much simpler chain of command, and you didn't have these intervening bureaucracies.
So, talk to me about secretaries.
Do we need secretaries?
Each day that goes by, I really question the need.
We either get rid of them, but if we get rid of them, we need to restore power to the chiefs so they actually have real jobs.
Now they're going to say, that's terrible, he said real jobs.
Well, they're advisors.
They don't have any command and control.
It's so odd, because for me, one of my colleagues was General Ospina at National Defense University, who was in uniform as a general, not just the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, if you will.
He was the commander of Colombian forces.
There was political control, but he was the most effective commander at a time when FARC was brought to its knees, because you had one man with one military vision.
We need to really think about the play.
And, you know, President Truman was faced with that in 1947.
What do I do?
Because you had a War Department and a Navy Department.
Now we have a United States Air Force.
But we create the Department of Defense, his attempt to make them joint.
But she never really did anything with them.
I think of the service secretary as the only one who actually has an operational responsibility,
the secretary of the Air Force, because he has certain responsibilities for satellites.
But other than that...
I think we have an extra mission for the next Trump administration.
God willing, it's up to us.
And I think I know a man who might have a plan.
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What is the measure they have taken of America after the surrender of Kabul, the statement before the invasion of Ukraine, it depends, let me paraphrase Biden, our response will depend upon what type of invasion it is.
Then we see the...
I mean, we can put to a side Israel's inability to predict or detect October 7th.
We have 17 intelligence agencies.
We didn't see it with billions of dollars of assets.
And then the latest news of just a few days ago, the fact that Iran is likely on the cusp of nuclear capability.
How worried should people who even those who don't follow international affairs be with regards to the last three years, Secretary?
Well, President Trump said it for all of us that we have to pray that these next 11 months go by quickly because the world has taken the measure of Mr. Biden.
And, you know, we don't even have to get into his ham-handed approach to military affairs.
This is a man who was censured by the mother of Parliament.
Yeah.
Can you tell people the story?
So, the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Her Majesty, she was Queen at the time, lost 450 troops in Afghanistan.
They were the second largest contingent after the United States.
Biden pulls out without the good grace to tell Boris Johnson he's leaving.
I need to repeat that for those who didn't get that.
We did not tell our closest ally in Europe that we were leaving Afghanistan.
We didn't inform the British.
The ramshackle approach, the fact that the British, and we still don't know how many, if they lost SAS types, getting their people out after Biden bugged out.
The Parliament, the House of Commons, both Labour and the majority Conservatives, voted to censure the President of the United States.
Now put that in historical context.
George Washington, led a rebellion against George III.
He was successful.
George III said he might be the greatest man in history.
There was no censure by William Pitt and those giants who were in Parliament at the time
of George Washington.
But Mr. Biden made history.
They're doing the calculation and I think Taiwan needs to be on guard.
I do think that the Houthis will continue to press and think about this.
The prime directive for America's Navy and Marine Corps.
really since Thomas Jefferson, has been to maintain the freedom of the seas, what Jefferson called the global commons.
So much so that Jefferson, who was at his heart not very fond of standing armies or big navies, when the first Islamic anti-American terrorists threatened American commerce in the Mediterranean, imprisoned American sailors, took the Barbary pirates, And by the way, Jefferson, as an ambassador, and Adams, an ambassador, visited Mr. Abdul Rahman in London, who was the emissary of the Barbary Pilots.
I said, why are you doing this to us?
We have no history.
He said, because the book tells us you're an infidel.
You can actually read those letters?
You can read those letters.
Jefferson distached the entire Navy and what was the entire Marine Corps and leveled Tripoli.
He said, you want to play this game?
And these frigates and a couple of ships of the line showed up and just leveled the plane.
Yeah.
The shores of Tripoli.
A couple of Marines.
And now we have these Houthi bandits at the behest of Iran, threatening the second busiest waterway on the planet.
And we're doing nothing.
So they'll keep pushing.
It's like Stalin said, you drive the sword in, and when you strike mush, you keep pushing.
You only pull back when you hit steel, and that's certainly never a word used in tandem with Mr. Biden.
If you look at, as someone who knows best, what we have sunken to, in terms of recruiting, the size of the army, general readiness, what is the percentage of deficit If we can turn things around, do we have to double our capability?
I think it was a 600 Navy, ship Navy under Reagan.
Reagan, right.
If you look at the totality of the force, are we 50% of what we should be?
Well, we're not even there.
And let me use the statistic that I used earlier today.
The Chinese have 110 shipyards capable of building naval vessels.
We have 20.
And of those 20, 10 build naval vessels.
If we were to fill the maintenance logs of our nuclear submarine fleet.
That would take the entire capacity of our naval shipyards for the next 30 years.
Unlike the Chinese, we have a global responsibility.
We are at least 100 ships down.
History hasn't changed so much that the Pacific is no longer a vast lake.
It's still a vast lake.
The last thing, real quick, we need to retool the unglamorous things.
We need Reagan's Defense Production Board to come back, in my opinion.
Shepherd American industry saying, here is what we need.
We need you to do these things.
Because if the balloon went up in Europe, and I'm not saying that the Russians aren't capable, but let's just for argument's sake, the British army has enough artillery and missile ammunition for two days.
And they have one aircraft carrier they share with the French.
If you don't believe me, look it up.
We could have dedicated the whole of this hour to the next question instead of issues such as the Secretary of Defense disappearing for prostate cancer screening and not telling anybody else in the administration.
But I have to ask it anyway, despite the limited amount of time we have.
On my show on Sunday, Secretary, I told the story of a young midshipman I just met on New Year's Eve, who shocked me with the stories of ideological indoctrination at the Naval Academy, where he is right now.
How they are forced before they're allowed to eat to do a four-minute drill, where they have to discuss topics such as microaggression and rape culture at the academies.
How marine officers cry in front of them in class as they're discussing the latest hot ideological topic of the day.
So my question to you is, I know You know, Team Trump is working assiduously to make sure we have a plan to go day one, we have the right people in place at the Pentagon and elsewhere.
But as somebody who knows the inside of the officer corps so well, can you just give us, without sacrificing, you know, things that need to be kept confidential, how do we fix the ideological epidemic in the officer corps?
Well, we change the trajectory of the officer corps.
No, well I should say on day one, President Trump will say, DEI is gone.
If I hear of anyone teaching it, it's gone.
All the people who worked in that world are gone.
But we need to restore the sense that this is not, civilian standards of fairness do not apply.
This is a profession.
it is not a jobs program.
But we need to clean house at the academies, not so much in ROTC because most of the kids
who come through the ROTC are coming from places like Clemson University, LSU, Texas
A&M.
You know, most of the officers come from 11 or 12 states.
I'm not worried about them at the second lieutenant level when they get in.
I'm worried about what is done to them once they get in.
I just saw, I think it was from Fort Sill, the first day for the basic course, which
is where the young second lieutenants, in fact my father ran the basic course for the
artillery school back in the 60s.
And the first, the second 30 minutes was on use of pronouns.
What tools do we have?
Because as the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, you did some quite incredible things there.
There is this conventional wisdom that bureaucrats, immovable government employees, or even the military are there for life until they've hit 23.
Do we have tools?
We do, but we need a president who says use those tools.
I don't know who said it.
It may have been Rumsfeld.
That the sad thing that you must display as a leader in an organization as complex as the Pentagon is that you're willing to fire people.
Not fire them for the sake of firing them, but firing them if they don't perform.
We've got too many of these characters who have failed up.
And I can say that if Mr. Trump, who's true to his word when it comes to personnel, there'll be a house cleaning.
And the message will be just as General Marshall had a message, but for different reasons.
He was dipping down into the lower ranks, replacing the inefficient, the out of shape.
He turned the Army on its head.
That's how we got Patton and Eisenhower and Bradley and Ridgway.
Do we have the raw material in uniform to do what they did and what Reagan did?
We do, particularly with the field-grade and company-grade officers.
Anybody below O5?
Yeah, it's what Goldwater Nichols has done to those above.
Now, they're always good people, don't get me wrong.
There are patriots out there.
But this administration has set about politicizing the entire General Officer Corps.
When you have an Air Force General who violates Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which says that you will be dismissed from the service if you hold in contempt, public contempt, State officials, federal officials, state laws.
And then she and several of the others stand up and say that these states are a threat to her and to her service.
And what about, for example, former chairmen of the Joint Chief, who said their job was to protect America from the Commander-in-Chief?
What happens to the likes of Mark Milley?
Well, I don't know what happens to the likes of Mark Milley, but I think his signature statement that he was dedicated to weeding out white rage or understanding it.
The Pentagon's own report said they found less than a hundred cases.
Now, they also went back to 2012, looked at all the courts-martialed.
There were 20 courts-martialed since 2012 for extremism.
19 of those were gang-related.
One was political.
And I'll give them credit.
There were Clinton administration officials on that study who signed it and said that this ideological extremism on the part of the leadership is killing the military.
Fascinating.
That's why we have the Secretary on the show, because he brings the receipts just like that.
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Secretary Wilkie, I'm going to take the liberty of asking you something personal, because you strike me as of the same caliber of individual as another cabinet member who is a good friend of the show, and a personal friend, and that's Secretary Ben Carson, Dr. Ben Carson.
That's a very high compliment.
Well, I mean it.
I mean it sincerely.
And for the particular reason, I don't expect you to do any brain surgery for me right now, but you are men who comport yourselves with honor and understand the meaning of the word loyalty.
My friend Chris Plant has a saying about the left that they've been very successful in making sure that decent conservatives never consider working in a Republican administration.
We've got a minute and a half.
I want to ask you, Why do you do what you do and maintain the belief system and commitment that you have?
It's where I was raised.
I was raised amongst heroes.
I saw, and this is not to be melodramatic, I saw the cost of maintaining freedom in my own house.
I had a father who was a huge man, 6'2", 240.
After a year in hospital following wounding in Cambodia, the next time we saw him he weighed 125 pounds.
Wow.
He carried lead in his body the day he died.
And I saw sacrifices.
Growing up in England and seeing in beautiful places like Bath the fragment marks on the beautiful buildings of the Royal Crescent from the Luftwaffe bombs.
And being in Israel and seeing how fragile that little piece of land is.
And that really appreciating that Lincoln was, this really is the last best hope.
I mean, Churchill could sit here and talk about the human story being a story of calamities and tragedies, but, you know, with that Anglo-American tradition, the world had a lot of hope, a model for what's
good and decent.
And Rich Lowry had a piece, I think today, where he talked about those on the left.
No, it was Jared Baker in the Wall Street Journal, a new American.
The left hates America.
I've been saying it on this show for five years.
We love America.
It's not parties, it's love and hate.
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