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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Anti-Semite plagiarist Claudine Gay out at Harvard

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	you Happy New Year dear friends.
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	Are you ready for 2024?
	Are you ready?
	For what the left is going to sling at those who love America.
	I am, so much so, finally after what?
	When was it?
	2015, I met President Trump.
	Eight years later, I've got my very own Make America Great Again hat.
	I've got the MAGA hat I had made for myself on the shelf behind me.
	But I was in New York for New Year's Eve, and my lovely ladies Katie, my wife and my daughter, said, Oh look!
	There's Trump Tower!
	Should we go inside?
	There it was!
	The Golden Escalator and the Trump Merchandise Store!
	And I said, I need me one of those hats!
	So finally!
	And you know what the shocking thing is?
	Well, I'll tell those stories about I wore a Make America Great Again hat all around the streets of Manhattan on New Year's Eve.
	I'll tell you those stories.
	But first, a little bit of breaking news as I was walking into the studio.
	For some reason, I'm still 1998.
	What's that?
	That's almost 30 years ago.
	I'm still on the distro list for emails from my time as a fellow at Harvard.
	And I saw in my inbox, President Claudine Gay has sent you an email.
	That's interesting.
	I wonder what that could be!
	It's the breaking news across the nation right now.
	Let me read a little to you from the letter that I was sent from the president of the most formerly prestigious educational institution in the world.
	Dear members of the Harvard community, it is with a heavy heart but a deep love for Harvard that I write to share that I will be stepping down as president.
	This is not a decision I came to easily.
	Indeed, it has been difficult beyond words.
	Because I have been looking forward to working with so many of you to advance the commitment to academic excellence that has propelled this great university across centuries.
	Yeah, especially the commitment to plagiarism, eh, President Gay?
	But after consultation with members of the Corporation... Isn't that ominous?
	That Harvard has a Corporation?
	It sounds like some kind of evil syndicate from a James Bond film.
	The Corporation.
	In consultation with The Corporation, with a capital C. It has become clear that it is in the best interests of Harvard for me to resign so that our community can navigate this moment of extraordinary challenge.
	With a focus on the institution rather than the individual.
	Question is, did she plagiarize?
	This letter sounds like so many other leftists when they're caught.
	It's better for the institution that I step down.
	Is she plagiarizing her resignation letter as well?
	Let me just pick up one thing more.
	When I became president, I considered myself particularly blessed by the opportunity to serve people from around the world who saw in my presidency a vision of Harvard that affirmed their sense of belonging.
	Unless you're Jew, right?
	Right, President Gay?
	Because if you're Jew, then somebody's screaming for your genocide.
	Well, you know, it's...
	It's contextual.
	It's contextual, because your genocide can be okay if it's the right people you're killing, right?
	If they're not black or brown or red Indian, then, you know, if they're Jewish or white.
	Here's the bottom line.
	Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you as you're leaving.
	But of course, what is she going back to?
	A tenured position, probably, I would guess, a minimum $300,000.
	She'll be back on faculty as a professor, probably not teaching anything except plagiarism or how to be a diversity hire.
	And the reason she's really getting fired is that, as of yesterday, they'd found more instances of her copying her quote-unquote academic work, exceeding 50 instances of plagiarism.
	How do you do that?
	This woman who rose to the president of the most famous university in the world has only written 10 articles.
	10.
	You don't get to be a head of a faculty with 10 articles.
	You don't get tenure with 10 articles.
	She got tenure and then presidency.
	How do you get caught 50 times stealing somebody else's texts if you've only written 10 articles?
	Now, in the big scheme of things, it probably doesn't matter.
	But it is a victory.
	It is a victory for the good guys.
	But it will or it should Be understood as a firing, because she didn't resign.
	She was told by the corporation to resign.
	She was fired.
	It's the plagiarism that pushed it over the edge.
	The next hire will be just as quote-unquote diverse because that's what they have become.
	You can't change the culture of an institution that was awoke when I went there in 1998.
	You can't change it with one simple firing.
	But here's some good news.
	After I bought my Making America Great Again hat, I walked around New York for hours.
	I got, I don't know, 12,000 steps in that day.
	Had to keep warm, it was rather cold.
	Not one idiot, not one loony leftist in Manhattan said anything.
	A couple of people kind of stared at me a little bit, but all I got from verbal responses was, Hey!
	Love your hat!
	Trump's gonna win, right?
	A bunch of black guys outside Bergman Goodorf's came up to me and said, we hate Biden.
	They were selling, you know, knickknacks on the street.
	We hate Uncle Biden and we're in to win for Trump.
	I went in to use a restroom and I saw a gentleman, younger guy with a very nice pendant.
	A Star of David Jewish pendant.
	Quite a large one, like an inch and a half across.
	And I said to him, hey, nice necklace.
	He looked at me.
	He said, you know, Guddorf's right in downtown Manhattan.
	I said, nice hat.
	Something's happening, guys.
	We just have to maintain the momentum.
	For 11 months.
	Will you be part of that?
	Will you make sure that those who realize what has happened to this nation understand that it's happened because of those who are politically in control?
	There's one person above all others who's in a position to do something about it and who loves this country.
	It's up to us, gentlemen.
	Let's make sure that whatever the crazies, those who hate America, throw at us and our nation that we are ready and we are braced for the onslaught.
	Because they will try everything.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	The disgusting DeSantis, um, what do they call themselves?
	Influencers and the Trump haters have been talking about, where, where's Melania?
	Is she hiding?
	No, you scumbags.
	As President Trump said at the New Year's Eve party at Mar-a-Lago, she's looking after her poorly mother.
	Let's give you the facts.
	That's why we're here on America First.
	Play cut.
	Melania.
	Great First Lady.
	So popular.
	People love her.
	She's right there in the hospital with her mother.
	Her mother, Melania, is very ill.
	But hopefully she'll be recovering.
	For real, so I just want to say hello to the first lady we just spoke, and the dad of my aunt, and a great hospital, and hopefully that'll be okay.
	But it's a tough one, it's a very tough one.
	Right, so please keep the former First Lady's mother in your prayers.
	She's in hospital in Miami.
	Amelia Knavs is suffering right now.
	Melania is at her side.
	So please keep Amalia in your prayers.
	Let's talk to what the year brings.
	Team Trump and what we're going to do about the insane leftists who hate the will of the American people.
	He's the right-hand man for the 45th and God willing if we do our part 47, the President of the United States, and he's in studio.
	Jason Miller, Happy New Year!
	Seb, great to be here with you.
	Have you had a good Christmas, good New Year's?
	I did.
	It was good to have, I would say, a couple of days off.
	There's not really any such thing as days off.
	This year is going to be like, you're going to be 20 hours a day non-stop, right?
	Like the President.
	Pretty much.
	once we were talking before I came on and once I hit the road on Thursday or
	Friday with the president I don't think I'll be back home for quite a number of
	weeks but we have Iowa and the New Hampshire and then...
	You must have a very good wife.
	Yes and but it's gonna be it's gonna be fast and furious here but this is why we
	signed up. This is why we signed up to save America. Well let's look at the
	latest figures of our colleague Eric who wrote this up for American Greatness.
	This is the poll...
	President Trump leads Biden amongst Hispanics and younger voters.
	Now, let's do the math here because this is stunning.
	Biden in the last election had a lead of 32 points with Hispanics.
	President Trump is now up five, which means a 37 and a half point swing.
	Now it's one poll, but Jason, you're an old hand at this.
	Almost 40 points in one demographic in three years.
	If half of that is true, that's stunning.
	It is stunning, and we're seeing similar shifts with African American voters, with youth voters, as you pointed out.
	And it's because everything that Biden is doing is terrible for everyone.
	This isn't just relegated to one particular community.
	Everybody is hit by inflation, particularly the working class and the poorer class.
	They're hit by inflation the hardest.
	They're living paycheck to paycheck.
	This, when things go up by 20%, it makes a very big deal.
	You take a look at the crime that we have in the streets, the border, just, I mean, the, you know, the 300,000 number from last month, that's just all that they apprehended.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the number, the actual number... You should at least double it.
	Every figure we get, like 8 million illegals, I say, okay, that's 16.
	Easily.
	Easily.
	Right.
	So it's way bigger than that.
	That's impacting everybody.
	We're seeing it's not just the border states, Arizona, Texas, and so on.
	We see the Democratic mayors of Chicago, of New York, freaking out.
	Which I got to tell you, I think Greg Abbott has done a masterful job with this.
	With that new eight busloads of illegals?
	Because if Abbott had not been doing that, you wouldn't have these Democrat mayors throwing a hissy fit, rightfully so.
	And it's because of those mayors that then the mainstream media is forced to go and cover it.
	Well, and not only that, it reveals how racist the Democrats are.
	That you send, what was it, 52 people who are illegal to Martha's Vineyard, they activate the National Guard, get them off the island in less than 30 hours and put them in an army camp?
	I mean, this is the party of inclusivity, Jason.
	Well, it's like internment camps with Japanese.
	Well, that's what the Democrats would like to have.
	Well, it was the Democrats back then, and they're doing it again!
	Yeah, it is Democrats.
	But going back to the point about the massive shift with Hispanic and Latino voters, this is real.
	And don't forget with Latinos in particular.
	Go back a few years ago to when Democrats embraced the BLM riots and the chaos.
	We saw a fundamental shift during the campaign in 2020 of Latinos and Hispanics moving away when they saw the way that Biden and the Democrats were.
	Over what issue?
	Do you think it was just personal safety?
	The personal safety and the crime and the chaos.
	And because keep in mind, a lot of folks in the Latino and Hispanic communities, if whether they came to the U.S.
	themselves or their parents or their grandparents, not just the economy, it's also safety.
	You go to any Central or South American country and the norm is for people to have eight or nine foot walls all around their house because it's not safe.
	So security and safety is just as big as the economic opportunity for many folks who are either immigrants or sons or grandsons of immigrants.
	But the point I make on the economic side of the millions, the hordes of illegals, is that, you know, it can be 16 million, it can be 30 million.
	That doesn't hurt Jason Miller.
	That doesn't hurt me, economically.
	It hurts Jose, who waited five years, came legally, got his green card, got his citizenship, when he's working at the bottom of the ladder, trying to, you know, start the American dream, and along comes Pedro, tells Jose's boss, I'll do Jose's job for 50% cash under the table, Who gets hurt the most?
	Not us.
	It's legal immigrants.
	Also, when you look at many of the working-class African-American voters who are being undercut as well, and that's part of the reason then why African-American voters are shifting away from Joe Biden in such massive numbers.
	And here's the thing, Seb, is there's nothing that Joe Biden can do to turn things around.
	The reason why I say that, he can't go and say, you know what guys, I realize we made a mistake.
	Let's put all of President Trump's border policies back in place.
	He won't do that.
	Biden cannot go and say, you know what, guys?
	This EV mandate is a bad idea.
	Sorry, lefties in California.
	I gotta stick with my union, guys.
	None of these moves.
	I'll make menthol cigarettes legal again.
	He could double down, couldn't he, Jason?
	He could say, you ain't black if you're not voting for me again.
	We talked to Jason Miller.
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	...that the President's beating the youth demographic...
	...that the President's beating the youth demographic...
	The President's beating the youth demographic.
	He's beating Biden with the under 35s.
	How do we know that that has real granularity?
	Because kids don't answer polls.
	Do you think this is accurate?
	We do see similar weakness in our numbers.
	The one other thing, too, that we'll talk about... You mean his weakness, Biden's?
	Yes, Biden's weakness.
	Other thing we'll talk about, too, when we get back is the fact that For Trump voters, poll after poll shows two-thirds of Trump voters show up to vote for him, one-third to vote against the Democrat or against Biden.
	Okay.
	Biden's the inverse.
	Only about a third of his voters show up for him, two-thirds against Trump.
	That's interesting.
	So the reason why this is a big deal, because then when it comes election time, a lot of these people in the polling who say, yeah, I'll be there for Joe Biden.
	They're like, you know what?
	He sucks.
	I don't really like him.
	I was just voting against Trump.
	I'm going to stay home.
	Right.
	Come in with the DeSantis thing.
	Cut five, yep.
	Three minutes.
	Oh, and this is going out on rumble.
	Kennedy.
	I think Kennedy is good because a lot of people say what he says on vaccines and blah blah blah, but the only Polling will show that he peels off from Biden about a five to two clip.
	And so definitely takes more from Biden than from us.
	means anything for his Democrats, his nostalgic Democrats.
	So I think he peels votes off from the left.
	What's your take?
	Polling will show that he peels off from Biden about a five to two clip.
	And so definitely takes more from Biden than from us.
	Initially there were a couple kind of mixed with the surveys.
	But it's it's he's definitely taking more from Biden.
	And that's why you'll see polling polling out today has President Trump leading by one
	over Biden nationally, but then we add in RFK Jr.
	Then the lead expands to say three.
	So we see that in quantifiable terms.
	All right, let's talk about the primaries.
	And then... what else do we have?
	It's the C segment.
	Yeah, C-segment.
	We'll do my pillow at the top here.
	Pillow at the top, alright.
	And then I'll take calls in D. Calls in D?
	Oh, Judy's back!
	Oh my goodness.
	How long has it been?
	I think it's been a few months at least.
	It has.
	Victor, Antoinette, fabulous.
	All here to ring in the new year.
	I finally got my, it took me eight years, I finally got my OG hat at Trump Tower yesterday, the day before yesterday.
	Oh, one of the OG ones, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I had, I made ones, you know, myself, like that, but I didn't have one of the ones President wears.
	That shop in Trump Tower is pretty big.
	It wasn't open when I was there last time.
	So now they have two.
	So they used to have the little thing outside in the hallway.
	Now they've got a proper one next to the security guard.
	And he told me, the guy in there where I bought it, he says they've got an even bigger one downstairs.
	Yeah, downstairs.
	That one's huge.
	Oh, it is?
	I haven't been to that one.
	I was just there a couple months ago.
	I'm excited.
	I walked around New York with that hat.
	It was great.
	Nobody said anything.
	Really?
	Thumbs up from people in Manhattan.
	It was fascinating.
	Fascinating.
	Were you there after Christmas or before?
	New Year's.
	New Year's Eve.
	New Year's Eve.
	Oh.
	New Year's Eve.
	Okay.
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year.
	Nikki Haley is running on her donors' issues.
	I'm the only one running on your issues.
	How many people were paid how much for that line?
	Not exactly very exciting there.
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	My little story from Manhattan wearing my MAGA hat and so much more.
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	Look, you are senior advisor, the president's right hand man.
	When I need him on the show, I tell you and like within a couple of hours he's on this show.
	So if you need something done, ask Jason.
	So we know all that.
	But let's put that to one side.
	Let's talk about American history.
	And I'm biased too.
	I was his deputy in the White House.
	But truly, I don't think I've seen a campaign like the Florida governor's crater In presidential history, like DeSantis', would you agree?
	Yeah, this is, I think, Ron DeSantis' campaign, probably the worst ever in political history.
	You go back to any of the flame-outs, whether it be a Scott Walker, or a Tim Pawlenty, or, there were various folks, you know, Fred Thompson had a short run, Rick Perry was supposed to do much better.
	You go back even further to, you know, the John Connellys, if you're going further back.
	you know, there was Jack Kemp who was always rumored, you know, at 88 or even the run-up to 96,
	that he would be a better candidate. It just, it never materialized. But to walk into this year,
	coming off of a 20-point win in his re-election last year, 86 million dollars in the bank, and
	to just get destroyed this badly.
	Number one, it shows just a terrible political acumen that he did not realize that the Republican base was still firmly with President Trump.
	But also I think it shows a bit of a self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, king-like mantra within Ron to where he could have just waited until 2028.
	I said a year ago, come into the cabinet.
	Come in as Veep.
	Show the stickers.
	Do the studio camera.
	This sticker somebody sent us.
	I put it on Alex's monitor and we haven't taken it down.
	And I said, come in as Veep.
	It says Trump 2024.
	DeSantis.
	Trump DeSantis.
	12 years of sanity.
	I said, come into the campaign.
	Let the president do his second year.
	Drain the swamp.
	And then you slide into the first slot in 2028.
	I think that's now out of the question.
	This isn't a flameout.
	This is a crash.
	Yeah, I think Ron DeSantimonio's political career is done.
	Done!
	It's toast!
	He couldn't get elected to the Senate from Florida.
	He couldn't get elected to the presidency.
	But, Seb, when we're talking in the historical context, almost take it back to the Ted Kennedy 1980 campaign for the Democrats, when Kennedy was famously asked, why are you running?
	And he stumbled and fumbled and he couldn't come up with an answer.
	The only reason why it appears that DeSantis is even running is because he thinks a political asteroid is going to hit the Earth, a political asteroid named Jack Smith, and somehow President Trump is going to lose.
	Or he's somebody that the ballot removal fairy will come along and sprinkle some pixie dust.
	And Ron gets to pick up the pieces.
	And Ron has to be there to pick up the pieces.
	Okay.
	First of all, President Trump's going to win the primary and win the general.
	But for that to be the calculus, to put his entire political future, his entire political life on the line, waste literally well over $100 million, maybe $200 million, when you add up everything from the super PACs and the campaign, to crash and burn like that, easily the biggest disaster in American political history.
	Alright, we've got a minute left, 30 seconds left.
	Follow this guy, at Jason Miller in DC.
	We've got 11 months to go, Jason.
	If the election were today, the president would have like a 49 state blowout like Reagan.
	The left are insane.
	They're going to try everything, aren't they?
	Yeah, and that's a really good point.
	We saw how they shifted the goalpost with changing all the rules and the regulations and the Zuckerbucks and all the shenanigans from 2020, also with shutting down social media.
	We snuck up on them in 2016.
	They were waiting for us in 2020.
	As we look ahead to 2024, this is where, whether it be from the campaign, whether it be from the RNC and the political parties, all the way down, we have to be ready for them to pull the exact same nonsense again.
	They're going to.
	They're not going to play fair.
	They're going to basically, Biden has a basement and beaches strategy.
	He's not up for this challenge.
	They're going to do everything they can to rig, steal, try to change the rules of the game, anything they can.
	If we thought 2020 was a big deal, that was junior varsity compared to what I think they tried in 24.
	Listen to this man.
	They will not play fair.
	They'll try and steal it again.
	As a result, you have to be engaged.
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	How insane would it be if there were people who hated you and hated America and you made them money?
	Not just, you know, accidentally donated to them.
	But every time you picked up a phone, or sent a text message, you were literally funding them, and they'd be giving your money to things like Planned Parenthood and gun control organizations.
	Well, that's not a crazy idea.
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	All right, we have all our friends.
	We have Judy.
	We have Victor.
	We have Antoinette.
	We've also got George, who wants to talk about my story in New York.
	But first, somebody wants to talk about the primaries.
	Jim in Colorado!
	Hello, Jim!
	Hello!
	Hello!
	Hi!
	What's your comment?
	What's your question, Jim?
	It's about your speech or your comment to a guest on Friday about autism.
	Is that okay to ask you?
	It is.
	Yeah, you were talking about DeSantis and you were both basically putting him down for a bad campaign.
	Yes.
	Which I agree with.
	But you said something about DeSantis.
	You said he must be autistic.
	Yes.
	What did that mean?
	Exactly what it means.
	I think he's autistic.
	I think he's on the autism scale.
	Is autism a down?
	Are you trying to negate autism?
	No.
	Do you know what autism is, Jim?
	I live with someone who's autistic.
	Okay, so tell me what the characteristics of an autistic person are when they are with other people who aren't autistic.
	Are they comfortable in conversations with other people?
	Do they look them in the eye, Jim?
	No, no, no.
	Answer the question.
	Answer the question.
	Are autistic people usually comfortable in social settings?
	I can't speak for all of them.
	No, you can because it's actually a diagnostic tool.
	In your experience, are autistic people comfortable in social settings, Jim?
	It's a very simple question.
	Yes or no.
	And what do they use to diagnose them with?
	DSM?
	Yeah, of course, if you're a medical professional.
	I'm talking about the fact that it is well known that people on the scale often display an absolute lack of comfort in social settings to such an extent they can't even look in the other person's eyes when they're being spoken to.
	It is well known about Ron DeSantis that he is very uncomfortable in social settings and cannot relate.
	That's why his wife, Candy, is so important because she helps in those settings, Jim.
	It's an observation, Jim.
	You don't have to take it personally.
	I think he's actually on the scale.
	Well, my wife is not like that at all when it comes to speaking with me.
	Yeah, but that's not a social setting.
	That's your wife, Jim.
	You're not listening to what I say.
	Look at some of the analyses of that man's behaviour in public settings with strangers, Jim.
	Okay?
	So it's not an insult, it's an observation, and I do think he may be on the scale.
	Talk to people who've met him, like I have.
	Let's go to Judy!
	Happy New Year!
	Brooklyn!
	Guess what?
	What?
	I'm wishing God bless you, Dr. Gorka, for a very happy new year.
	Well, I wish the same for you and your loved ones.
	I just want to know, where have you been, Judy from Brooklyn?
	Where have I been?
	But I have to tell you some more.
	But no, I need to know first, where have you been?
	But I'll tell you, even though where I have not been or have been, from all the radio hosts, I want you to know that I respect you the most.
	Always.
	This is five years now, okay?
	Well, I hope so, because you're like one of our longest-standing friends, Judy.
	Yeah, but you see, I sincerely feel that you are like one of the most spiritual and moral and ethical.
	You've got a great compass and it supersedes all others.
	You're just really a good man and I respect you a lot.
	I want you to know that, even though I haven't called for too much.
	You know something?
	Well, the last time I spoke to you, I think you misunderstood what I wanted to say and I was a little bit like, what?
	Have you been holding a grudge for two months, Judy?
	No, no, no.
	I do not hold grudges.
	No, I don't hold grudges.
	No, in fact, no I don't.
	I don't hold grudges.
	Stop skirting around the issue.
	Where have you been, Judy, from Brooklyn?
	I've been here.
	I've been here.
	Trust me, I've been here.
	So why haven't you been calling?
	I don't know, there was something you said and it's like... So you are holding a grudge!
	Judy!
	No, it wasn't a grudge.
	Not a grudge.
	You said you can't call me on my show and I thought, what?
	I've been with you for four and a half years, almost five years.
	All right, so what made you call in today?
	Have you forgiven me talking about my show on my show?
	No, no, I was never even angry at you for that.
	No, I wasn't.
	I think that was a misunderstanding.
	I was trying to explain.
	You put me on the thing.
	But the thing is, I want you to know, okay, With everything that's going on, I'm so fed up with everything that I've lost me.
	Like, where am I?
	But you know what?
	You're talking about resolution.
	So I wrote down, I said, what's my resolution?
	Here's my resolution, okay?
	I want to be a better person.
	I want to be a kinder, compassionate person, and I want God to be proud of me.
	And everyone has different strengths.
	And I, lately, do a lot of talking to God, and I feel that there's strength in everything.
	And one of the things is, there's a lot of strength in praying to God.
	Because right now, we've got to get good stuff in the air.
	We've got good stuff going on.
	God controls everything.
	Whatever will be, will be.
	I don't have a crystal ball.
	And you're so fantastic.
	I don't know, we get the strength every day, with your team, to go out there and to just deal with the crazies.
	I love that last thing you said, and it actually kind of echoed something I heard from somebody in the last, I think it was just the last 24 hours.
	You said, you'd like God to be proud of you.
	I love that turn of phrase.
	I also heard this one that made me stop and think.
	I'd like to be an advocate for God.
	I'd like to be an advocate for our Creator's values.
	I think if we just think about those two ways of looking about what we do here on earth and what we're going to do here for the next 12 months, I think it could help focus our actions.
	I'm so happy to see you back, Judy.
	Stay on the line.
	Let Judy pick from one of our new items, Jeff.
	Whether it's Israel-related, whether it's Trump-related, I want to smoke a peace pipe with our friend from Brooklyn.
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	the real reason Trump has to win for Marlowe for 1A Harvard fires President Bigot and Bigot with a capital B
	and then for Jason I was thinking they want to steal the election again
	That's good.
	I am gonna miss the memes of President Gay.
	Seeing those headlines of just President Gay.
	you Making sense out of today's nonsense
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	There are just some headlines you don't want to believe.
	This is our buddy Simon Kemp from Breitbart.
	They've done the math for Biden in 2023.
	He spent 138 days on vacation.
	Do you know what that means?
	That's 37% of the year.
	138 days on vacation. Do you know what that means? That's 37% of the year. More than a
	third of the year he's on vacation. That's stunning.
	All right, let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to George, Columbus, Ohio, line two.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	Jeff misunderstood, or he wrote it down wrong.
	I love your hat story, but I've got one of my own.
	Good.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, that was me.
	I misread it.
	That was Jeff.
	He's a bit dyslexic when it comes to writing down names, but he never gets wrong the content of callers' contributions.
	Tell me your hat story quickly, because we've got to get to Victor and Antoinette.
	So it was a woke store.
	I walked, it's not really woke, but where, where, where, where's the store?
	It was Walmart.
	And I was in Walmart buying birdseed because it's cheap there.
	And, uh, I was online.
	I was wearing my Trump 2020 hat, which says it also on the back and two people behind me, the lady goes, you know, you guys lost that election.
	I turned around and I looked at her and I said, miss, We all lost that election.
	I'm only wearing this hat so everyone here knows.
	None of this bullcrap is my fault.
	And the other seven people in line clapped.
	You're right.
	Something is happening.
	The silent majority is no longer silent.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think you're absolutely right.
	And I love that we all lost that election.
	That's superb.
	And by the way, sadly, Walmart is woke.
	They've been selling transgender garbage stuff.
	Love it, George.
	Stay on the line.
	I think George is a regular caller, but give him a choice of one of any of my books, and if he has those, he can choose something else.
	Let's go to Victor Silver Spring and quickly answer that.
	Victor, what's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Happy anniversary, first of all.
	Oh, thank you.
	There's another group that's getting really ticked off, and that's the blind community.
	Some of my blind friends are starting to wake up now.
	And they're telling me that since they work, you know, for sub-minimum wage, you know, work in workshops and stuff like that.
	Others have low-paying jobs.
	They're finding it difficult.
	And I said, well, you voted for Biden.
	Are you sorry?
	And three of my friends said, yes, we are sorry.
	So, and also have you noticed How, say, the left say they're so diverse.
	Where's that handicap box?
	How come there aren't any blind people, for example, in the Biden administration?
	Good point.
	Why aren't they front and center?
	It's always black, gay, lesbian, whatever.
	They don't care.
	They don't care.
	Thank you for your kind words and for the good news about your friends.
	Let's squeeze in Antoinette.
	Happy New Year, Antoinette!
	Happy New Year, my love.
	Listen, good afternoon and welcome to Flight 2024.
	We are prepared to take off into the new year.
	Please make sure your positive attitude and gratitude are secure and locked into the upright position.
	All self-destructive devices Pity, anger, selfishness, pride and resentment should be turned off at this time.
	All negativity, hurt and discouragement should be put away.
	That's what that- Did you lose your- Yes?
	We're out of time, but you are my favorite female pilot and I love that.
	Talk to you on Thursday!
	We'll be back in a moment with Lord Black.
	We'll be back.
	You You
	You Happy New Year Conrad
	Same to you, Sebastian.
	Did you have a pleasant New Year's, Christmas?
	I did, I did, yeah.
	Pretty quiet, but I like it that way.
	Oh, didn't you go to London, or did your daughter visit you?
	Yeah, she came here.
	Mm-mm-mm.
	So, anyway, I'll look, uh, I think the year's off to a good start.
	It is, it is.
	Very good.
	I was just talking to my 94-year-old friend, Norman Podhorec.
	Oh my gosh!
	Uh-huh.
	And I told him that I thought that, and I believe this, that the apparently emerging pattern of the American public being More concerned with the corruption and politicization of the justice system than it is with the accusations against or the foibles of Donald Trump is going to create one of the great moments in the history of democracy.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	All right.
	I think it's true.
	I mean, for the public to see the rotten things that are going on and and
	ultimately, which is every
	Week now it seems clear. That's what's happening You know them in the Democrats have nothing except their
	except their sleazy dirty tricks operations, but they've got nothing
	else left and And though and the more brazen they become
	the higher Trump goes in the polls. So it seems to me anyway.
	Yeah, and I'll read to you the latest polling figures for Hispanics and for youth, which is incredible, incredible.
	By the way, his office sent out, you probably got it too, but a 32-page summary of voting,
	you know, You're voting illegality in the last presidential election
	in the swing state.
	You can't answer it.
	There's no doubt.
	It's all there and it's all very carefully attested.
	These aren't...
	Who sent you that?
	Was it Margot?
	Uh, Natalie Harp sent it to me.
	Oh, Natalie Harp.
	Okay, I need to get a copy of that.
	I'll send it to you.
	Oh, please, please, please, please.
	Thank you.
	And I have asked for my book to be sent to you, so you'll be getting it in the next few days.
	Fabulous. Standby, 10 seconds.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitution, America first.
	Happy New Year.
	We are celebrating the fifth year.
	No, hang on.
	We've been doing it for five years, so we're beginning the sixth year of our show.
	We launched five years ago yesterday, January the 1st, and my has time flown by.
	As they say, when you're having fun, tempus fugit.
	And it's been amazing, mostly because of you, the best listeners and callers in the industry.
	Thank you to you.
	Thank you to Salem.
	And thank you to our amazing team here at America First and Well, look, I'm not one of these guys who can talk for three hours.
	I got buddies who can do that.
	Chris Plant can do that.
	Dan Bongino, the great Rush Limbaugh, of course.
	I like to talk to interesting people at the same time.
	And it is fabulous to have regular guests, the kind of individuals one would like to grow up into should one ever mature.
	And one of your favorites is, of course, Lord Conrad Black.
	Conrad, Happy New Year and welcome back to America First.
	Thank you very much, Sebastian.
	Happy New Year to you and all your listeners, and whom I urge to disregard your very flattering comments, though I am grateful for them.
	You can disregard his final comments there, dear friends.
	Make sure you're following this man at ConradMBlack is the website on social media at ConradMBlack.
	We've been talking about the year ahead in the break before we went live.
	Let's start with Let's start with a little clip from the Secretary of State of Colorado, Jenna Griswold, on CNN, who says something rather strange about the next election and the 45th President of the United States.
	Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, cut to!
	I think it's important to note that we are only here because Donald Trump incited the insurrection.
	He has created the situation for himself.
	There is clear language in the Constitution, in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, for this exact situation.
	I believe he is a threat to democracy, the right to vote, and the future stability of this nation.
	The threat to democracy, Lord Black, can only be countered if we don't allow you to pick your president or your nominee for president.
	Do these people, you think, have any idea of what these statements sound like to those on the outside?
	No.
	I think if they did, they would speak differently.
	It is so utterly nonsensical, what she said, that you hardly know where to start refuting it.
	I would just make the point that it is obvious, from all that we've seen, In the last few months, this man, Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, is a pathological Trump-hater engaged with the purpose of destroying him as a political rival to the incumbent president.
	And he did not charge Trump with an insurrection.
	So what the hell is this woman talking about?
	Right.
	Now, if we look at the last, let's say, eight months in what has been termed lawfare, the use of law as a weapon, from Alvin Bragg in New York to Jack Smith to Fannie Willis to Judge Ingeron, on and on and on.
	There's this peculiar pattern whereby after every single indictment or accusation or leak of an indictment, the President's popularity has increased, his fundraising has increased, to a point at which, let me read to you the latest figures, which are quite stunning.
	We have not only a plus 50 point lead against any challenger, but if we look at the, on the right, we look at the minority vote, there's a poll just been released that President Trump, so Biden won 34% of the, he won, he had the majority 34% more Hispanic support in 2020 than President Trump.
	He now is at a deficit to President Trump of 5%, which means an almost 40% delta in one demographic support swinging to the former President of the United States.
	Again, we caveat ourselves again and again and again that we're not doing amateur psychiatry here, but from purely a political perspective, when a certain approach fails to garner you any benefit, you should stop using it, shouldn't you?
	But it seems the Democrats are incapable of drawing that conclusion.
	Yeah, well isn't that one of the famous criteria of stupidity?
	Don't work, or work badly, or clearly bad, but you keep doing them, you are a stupid person, and that appears to be what we're dealing with here.
	So what has happened to one side of the quote-unquote political elite in that case?
	Are these people truly devoid of intellect, or just driven by personal animus?
	No, they're not devoid of intellect.
	A lot of them are clever people, but they're There is something about Trump that does drive some intelligent people crazy.
	I mean, temporarily crazy.
	Crazy on that subject, you see.
	And now I think it's taking on a panic-stricken form of craziness.
	Because all their old shibboleths about Biden beat him before he can do it again are obviously nonsense.
	And the dirty little secret that is still not out there very much, but it's available if you want to find it, is that Trump is also leading the polls against the other Democrats.
	He's ahead of Newsom and various other people they test.
	So they are now staring at a situation where In traditional terms, they have no chance of winning in any traditional lawful electoral way.
	They can't just say, here's our candidate, he's better than yours, put him up in the debate, he'll beat yours, this is his record, it's a fabulous record.
	I mean, you know, past incumbents running for re-election, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Franklin Roosevelt, you know, even Mr. Truman, Dwight Eisenhower.
	You know, they could do that.
	They could do all of that.
	And these people can't do any of it, and the only hope they've got now is to just become
	even more brazen and outrageous in their perversion and deformation of the justice system.
	And it's getting too late to change candidates.
	Iowa's in ten days, you know, and then it gets very complicated once the primary season starts.
	So what happens if they've painted themselves into this?
	It's sort of illogical.
	It is devoid of logic, into this corner of irrationality.
	If, God willing, the Supreme Court just strikes down all these obscene ballot measures from various Democrat-led states, what does the DNC do then?
	If the Supreme Court says, no, you can't do that, do we expect more irrationality?
	Are they going to get even more extreme?
	Because we have another 11 months of this.
	Well, ten months, fortunately.
	The beginning of November.
	But look, I think it's what greater outrages can they conduct against the justice system and against the integrity of the justice system.
	And I see the latest tactic, now desperate though it is, is this business about Clarence
	Thomas must recuse in any Trump-related matter.
	Of course, that's nonsense.
	He was appointed by President Bush, Sr.
	There's no reason why he has to recuse on anything, you know.
	But I mean, if it was his wife, her case was up or something, you know, that's another
	matter.
	But, you know, they're absolutely grasping at straws.
	I mean, it is, in a way, if the stakes weren't so high and we weren't actually talking about
	the future of democracy and the American Constitution, it would be a hilarious farce to see the ludicrous,
	utterly implausible nonsense that the great Democratic Party is reduced to, to try and
	pretend that there's any right to expect to be reelected.
	Do you see any individual media commentator of influence on the left of the establishment who sounds sane at this moment is trying to rein in the radicals Conrad?
	I don't canvas them that much so I'm not the best person to ask.
	I do see signs of some people who aren't far left but have been anti-Trump did you do you know stopping short of these extreme things
	and saying mark you know if it if that's what comes to the you know
	that mhm but but but people want trump and what's that trump and will we don't
	it most of them actually approved of trump in policy terms as a generous i do see that i see that group
	uh... it's sort of contemplating just pal
	far they are can't believe we don't go to the grand canyon of politics and starting to walk it back
	But the left, as far as I can see, do have a death wish.
	They want to burn America down, and if instead it's a funeral fire for themselves, at least it's a fire.
	I will ask exactly on that issue next here on America First.
	We're talking to the author of Don J. Trump, A President Like No Other, also co-host of the podcast Scholars in Sense with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett.
	The website is ConradMBlack.com.
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	.
	You know, pragmatists of the Bill Clinton ilk.
	They just, they've disappeared.
	You're even, to be fair, Obama.
	I mean, Obama, I mean, he wasn't... Well, he was a chameleon.
	He was a chameleon.
	But he was an intelligent man who wouldn't have gone as far as this.
	Well, he did say, what did he say originally?
	That marriage is between a man and a woman.
	So yeah, he did show a little bit of sanity once, I guess.
	Yeah, but I mean, he didn't, how should I put it?
	Look, he did a lot of things that I didn't agree with, and I didn't think it was that successful a presidency, but he was and is a presentable, fluent man who rarely says things that are evidently outrageous and embarrassing in their stupidity.
	He often says things that if you If you think about them for a moment, realize you don't like where he's going with it.
	But he doesn't say just completely obviously slap-in-your-face stupid things.
	And the people that you hear from at the head of the Democratic Party and administration now do that all the time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Quite stunning.
	I saw just a clip of Senator Schumer is saying about a month ago, we absolutely will not compromise on the border.
	That has nothing to do with this, you know.
	We will not think of it, we won't be dictated to like this.
	And he now, and I, you know, three weeks later he's saying, well of course we have to have a compromise here, we have to get something done.
	I mean, they're in full retreat, you know.
	I mean, my impression is it's a, It's really like a ship where the steering wheel isn't connected to the rudder anymore, and the people are running around the bridge, you know, shrieking.
	Some are shouting, abandon ship, and some are saying, lower the lifeboats.
	Some are shouting commands to engineers who can't do anything in the engine room.
	I mean, it's just panic at sea.
	That's what it looks like to me.
	Yeah.
	And the question is, what's going to happen in the next 10 months?
	Because they can't do a VoltaFast right now without, you know, saying the last three years was insanity.
	Well, it's going to be hard, you know.
	I mean, I don't, I thought that the time, really the last train leaving the station to push Biden, it was the Christmas, New Year holiday.
	He'd come back from the Virgin Islands and say, well, I've thought about it.
	And really, I, you know, I'd love to stay.
	And it's a wonderful, great honor to be president.
	But, you know, but it's really time to hand over to someone else.
	And but he's not doing it.
	And from here on in, it gets very hard to do it.
	And if he doesn't go soon, When he does go, it's going to be very difficult to get rid of Harris.
	To get rid of her, you've got to primary her out.
	It'll be chaotic.
	be chaotic. It'll be chaotic. Come in with Cut One guys.
	If you don't compartilate with it you're just gonna get thrown away.
	Look, we understand what the American people went through these past three years, right?
	We came out of a pandemic, right?
	A pandemic that we haven't seen in a hundred years.
	And when the president walked in, the economy was upside down.
	And so we get it.
	We get that it's going to take a little bit of time for folks to feel what the Bidenomics has been able to do.
	That's not something that I'm saying.
	That's something that economists have said, right?
	It takes a little bit of time.
	How much time?
	You've only got 10 months left.
	The fact that Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, is actually continuing to use this phrase Bidenomics, given the fact that we have 8% mortgages, gas is still almost twice what it was under the Trump administration, speaks to a lack of sense of reality as to what the average American has to live with.
	We'll be back with our guest, Lord Black, in a moment.
	The call board is absolutely full, so please don't go anywhere.
	Sean, Lisa, Tom, Stanley, Mary, we will get to your calls if anybody drops off the number.
	It's 833-33-GORKA.
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	Conrad, I don't know if I broached this earlier, but I'm curious...
	We've discussed how well things are going for the president, irrespective of the lawfare, or maybe thanks in part to the lawfare being used against him.
	What about the other side?
	Do you think these third-party candidates RFK Jr.
	and Cornel West.
	Will they have any impact?
	Will they split the left vote?
	Could it be a potential kind of Ross Perot on the left factor for Biden?
	I don't think so.
	And by the way, when you say the President, there may be a few of your listeners who've just tuned in who might have imagined you mean the person who's now the President.
	Of course, you're talking about President Trump.
	Yes, sorry.
	But I don't think so.
	I mean, Ross Perot was the only third candidate in that race in, what, 1992?
	only was the only third candidate in the in that race in what 1992 and and and he
	was a very rich man and he was sort of plausible in a way but frankly I mean
	I've considerable admiration for The senior President Bush, but he made serious mistakes as a party leader.
	He shouldn't have allowed anyone like that to come in and take 20 million mainly Republican votes.
	But Robert Kennedy thinks that the CIA murdered his father and his uncle.
	I mean, he does say some good things sometimes.
	I think his analysis of Dr. Fauci is is quite good and quite arguable and quite perceptive.
	But then he says those things about the CIA.
	Exactly. He's simply not... you can't really take him seriously as a president.
	And Cornel West is rather amiable when you hear him speak, but his ideas are completely off the wall.
	So, I mean, it's conceivable to me that they could make a difference in the odd state here and there, but I don't think they're going to influence the election.
	Significantly.
	I mean, look, third parties don't work.
	All they can do is throw the election to the person whose party you're splitting.
	Teddy Roosevelt did that, and he was, after all, distinguished and popular and, you know, a great president.
	And he still couldn't really do anything except Then what about another issue?
	was the person he least wanted there, Woodrow Wilson.
	And you know, Ross Perot put in Clinton.
	Now, maybe he was happy with that, but I don't, in theory, that isn't what he was running
	for.
	Then what about another issue?
	If it's not going to be candidates splitting the vote from the left, it seems that we,
	maybe I just have rose-tinted spectacles on, we may be getting closer to a crescendo moment
	when it comes to Biden corruption, Hunter Biden, the absolute, you know, dismay.
	dismissal of a legal congressional subpoena. It seems every week there and the higher courts
	throwing out some of the anti-Trump law. Yes, yes. So, so could could that be more of a
	separating wound for for the Biden administration that simply it's not just the state of the economy
	geopolitical crisis everywhere open borders but simply a point at which Democrats get a bad taste
	in their mouth when they think of the family Biden? I think that if they don't take radical measures
	to to ease out Biden and Harris both of them uh Even then, if they can do that, it'll be difficult and they'll have an uphill battle and somebody will have to defend this administration.
	But at least they'll make a race of it.
	But if they don't do that, they're circling the drain now and they will go rushing down the drain and vanish from sight well before ten months from now, in my opinion.
	And if somebody is parachuted in, is there any way to get around Kamala Harris?
	I think there must be.
	The powers that be in the Democratic Party manage to get rid of people when they want to.
	But there's no doubt that with the racial and feminist aspects to it, it's going to be rough.
	If they do do that, assuming they still have the massive support of the media, whose conduct, you know, the mainstream national political media could not do anything more shameful than they have done in the last five years, so they have nothing to lose.
	So they will just go down slinging mud at Trump, and with all that, they might be able to salvage a respectable showing for the Democrats.
	As I made one of my resolutions this year is to read even more books.
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	The call board is full!
	We will be taking your New Year resolution calls next here on America First.
	You know, we shouldn't be overconfident and what isn't.
	But as of now, I think the tide's running in our favor.
	It is, it is, but as you said, ten months to go, ten months to go.
	And goodness knows a lot can happen.
	They are desperate to cling on to power.
	That's clear.
	Okay, let me leave you with this thought.
	It isn't immediately obvious until you think about it, but the two main events right now in the world are Russia is continuing to flounder about in Ukraine.
	It's taken about 300,000 casualties, which would be 600,000 in the United States, a lot of people.
	They have a GDP smaller than Canada's.
	They can't afford this war.
	It's lost Russia whatever prestige it had.
	And on the other side, the Israelis are determinably, every day, eliminating, literally eliminating the nastiest terrorist organization in the world.
	These are both good things for the West.
	All it is missing is a proper, appropriate, traditional leader, plausible leader of integrity and lucidity in the White House.
	Correct.
	And that's a phenomenon that the American voters should put right before the year is out.
	Have you have you written an article with that message?
	Well, no, I've taken the holidays off, but I'll come back with something like that.
	I think that's great.
	I think that's great.
	Yeah, I think that's such a very simple but but but, you know, spot on take.
	Well, look, I have my reservations about this tactic of the Republicans tying Ukraine and Israel to the border, but frankly, at this point, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to help the Democrats out of a mess they've made there.
	I mean, take another million of these unfortunate people and hang that around their necks as insurance for Election Day, but let's make sure we don't I mean, look, I don't want to be cynical, and I'm not a cynic by nature, but why are the Republicans so desperate to save the Democrats?
	is already such an albatross that even Democrat mayors are speaking out
	against it. I mean look I don't want to be cynical and I'm not a cynic by
	nature but why are the Republicans so desperate to save the Democrats?
	They're stewing in their own juice. I mean burn baby burn.
	Never let the GOP's capacity to be a strategic surprise you.
	Yeah, and as Napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy when he's in the process of making a mistake.
	Correct.
	Indeed.
	Alright, can't wait to see the book, and in the meantime, talk next week.
	Oh, and please do send me the election analysis, the email.
	I'll send it.
	God bless.
	God bless. Thanks. Bye-bye.
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	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	It's only a couple of hours old, so I'm not sure it still qualifies as breaking news, but it is interesting.
	Could you imagine, Eric, could you imagine how Paul Ryan feels today?
	Fox News has announced that they will be hosting a town hall in Des Moines, Iowa, with President Trump.
	Do you think Paul Ryan's having a bad day, Eric?
	Another common loss for Paul Ryan.
	Fox.
	Oh, even Fox might have realized they have to get back onto the bandwagon.
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	Everybody wants to sound off.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	And I've even given my... I don't know why I did this.
	I never give my team a warning.
	I gave them a warning 20 minutes ago when I'm going to ask them about their New Year's resolutions and their predictions for this year.
	So they better be good.
	No pressure.
	Let's go to Sean.
	New York City!
	I was there yesterday.
	Line one.
	Happy Trump Year!
	I love it!
	Happy Trump!
	May I use that with your permission?
	Can I use that?
	Please, please!
	I just got so sick of Happy New Year, I just had to get right to the heart of it.
	Happy Trump Year!
	I love it!
	Okay, I'm writing it down, I'm going to use it, I'm going to use it, I'm going to use it.
	All right, my friend, what would you like to share with us?
	Well, I was going to be a little humorous, but I will get to the point.
	You know, last time we We were talking about enemy combatants and not using the military tribunals for American citizens, and I agree with you.
	However, there was a case called Padilla, and Ashcroft was the Attorney General at the time, and he did detain Padilla, and this was right after 9-11 and the cloud of war.
	Look, I would like to point out that Obama used a drone against an American citizen.
	Multiple American citizens.
	Yeah, the Al-Awlaki family.
	Correct.
	He dispatched Al-Awlaki without giving him a trial, without giving him due process.
	I'm glad that Al-Awlaki is gone.
	I'm sure he was a terrorist, but still, we're supposed to be a nation of laws and not a nation of men.
	And what authority did Obama have to do that?
	Is he... by what diktat is he the emperor?
	So, all I'm saying is, if they're using this lawfare now against Trump and he comes back in,
	I certainly think that that issue should be raised.
	Because Obama...
	Which issue?
	Be explicit, please, Sean.
	I'm saying I think a Trump Justice Department should say to Obama, you took out an American citizen.
	You assassinated him without giving him due process.
	Oh, you mean there should be judicial consequences for Obama?
	Absolutely.
	You know, it's a great question.
	The only obstacle we'll run into is, I think, the statute of limitations.
	So he's been out of office for what?
	He'll be out of office for eight years if, God willing, we do our part and President Trump wins.
	So I don't know if the statute of limitations is going to permit actions that happened more than five years ago like that, although maybe Maybe when it comes to murder?
	Maybe it's different?
	Or, you know, what do they call it?
	What's the euphemism?
	Judicial murder?
	Great question, Sean.
	I love that.
	Stay on the line.
	Sean gets to pick his book from Defeating Jihad, Why We Fight or The War for America's Soul.
	Let's go to Mary in Arizona.
	You've got to be quick.
	Line five, Mary.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	You talked about DeSantis being on the autism spectrum.
	I believe so.
	I believe also that Governor Katie Hobbs is well on the spectrum.
	I haven't seen enough of her.
	I've seen clips of her that kind of are rather regrettable, but you also think she has that kind of social filter that the governor suffers from in Florida?
	Absolutely.
	She cannot speak without having something in front of her to read.
	And she's like a deer in the headlights most of the time.
	Yeah, but that's not a function necessarily of autism.
	A lot of people don't like to speak or a lot of people are incapable of speaking easily or with a facility in public.
	But this is people who have difficulty relating in a social setting.
	But I will check out the videos of Hobbes because who knows, you may be right.
	More of your calls here and resolutions on America First.
	What does Vivek's sign say, Trump?
	What does Vivek's sign say?
	Truth, truth?
	Mike's!
	Alright, yeah.
	Yeah, why?
	Truth, truth?
	He's on Cavuto's show?
	Yeah.
	Why are you switching the mics off?
	Because of the read on on CELN TV. That's why. Oh, sorry.
	This is just a 60 seconds one Alex.
	Thank you.
	Yes, sir.
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	It's a little long.
	They might have to shave it down.
	What?
	No, what, what, what?
	What?
	Eric!
	Eric!
	It's an imposter, it's an alien has replaced Eric.
	Hans is literally gonna leave the country, go to the Middle East, wear the whole Islamic garb and everything, join Al-Qaeda, pledge allegiance to a foreign terrorist organization that's declaring war on us.
	How is that not basically tantamount to revoking your citizenship, renouncing your citizenship and the rights therein?
	Yeah, see, he's mixing two different things there, and I actually agree with you.
	He's talking about, and I disagree with him, using military tribunals for U.S.
	civilians here in America.
	You can't use a military tribunal for somebody who's a U.S.
	citizen on U.S.
	soil.
	It's just like... But if they're in a war zone, it's like, if you're fighting for the enemy, tough doo-doo, we can zap you, right?
	I mean, it's like you've chosen a side.
	It's the question of... It's about jurisdictions and where you physically are.
	If you're arrested in America, sorry!
	American law applies to you.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	One of the few things I'll defend Obama on, of all things.
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	Let's go to Tom in Atlanta.
	Hey, Happy New Year.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Absolutely.
	Happy New Year.
	What's your comment?
	What's your question?
	Okay, so if we take the Washington Post Uh, notion of Pinocchios.
	Uh-huh.
	For people who are lying, the numbers of Pinocchios.
	Uh-huh.
	Yep, and we mix that with the euphemism, let's go Brandon, and then we take Elon Musk's comments to Bob Iger, and he then repeated it.
	We could have the designation of how many Elons does Rona and the Rhinos deserve.
	That may be one, and then perhaps those who are trying to get Trump off the ballot.
	That would be four Elons.
	Yep, I like it.
	Elons as a measure of lying in the mainstream media or amongst Rhinos.
	Thank you, Tom.
	Let's squeeze in Stanley, Los Angeles.
	Thank you, Dr. Corcoran.
	I was wondering why we continue this disinformation, calling these protests pro-Palestinian.
	I think it's disinformation.
	They're really pro-Hamas demonstrations.
	And I believe anyone who's pro-Hamas is anti-Palestinian, because they're basically subjugating the people of Gaza.
	So I think we should disregard these pro-Palestinians.
	Well, we should disregard the phrase pro-Palestinian because Palestine doesn't exist.
	There's no such thing as a Palestinian.
	Palestine was a phrase used by the Romans to insult the Jews named after their enemy, the Philistines.
	So yes, but we have to be clear.
	These are pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist demonstrations.
	You're absolutely right.
	Thank you, Stanley.
	Okay, let's get down to the pay dirt.
	Eric.
	What is your resolution for this new year, this election year?
	Resolution is I'm going to eat healthier, you know, less red meats, you know, maybe more greens, maybe drinking less, you know, fruity juices and stuff.
	What about Lunchables?
	Yeah, the Lunchables are going to have to go, I'm afraid.
	Got to get rid of the Lunchables.
	All right.
	What are your expectations for the year?
	Predictions?
	I feel every year of the Biden administration at this point has produced a new foreign policy disaster.
	You know, call it the season one of World at War.
	Afghanistan, season one.
	Season two, Ukraine.
	Season three, Israel.
	This year, season four of this series, World at War, something will finally happen in Taiwan.
	You're too young to know the World at War, but that's interesting.
	Yeah, it could be Taiwan.
	All right, let's go to the man at the board.
	What is your resolution, Mr. Alex?
	I want to write more.
	Ooh, that's a good one.
	Political stuff, geopolitical, fiction, what do you want to write?
	Poetry, haikus?
	All the above.
	I just want to be able to reason with my own opinions and articulate them well, so writing.
	This wedding, so I went to this wedding, my wife's sister got married on New Year's Eve.
	After this amazing bash in New York, at the end, after the dance, after midnight, blah blah blah, they had some after-party nibbles.
	And they had a woman writing haikus for the guests on a typewriter.
	It was so funky.
	So maybe Alex could become a new haiku poet.
	Let's go to John.
	What's your resolution, Mr. Chief Engineer?
	Mine is to cook more at home, to stop doing the door dash and all that stuff.
	All right.
	What do you like to cook?
	What kind of food?
	Oh, you know, chicken, steak.
	I mean, pretty much anything.
	Tacos.
	You could bring some in.
	I mean, don't be shy.
	I could.
	Don't be shy.
	Don't be shy.
	Predictions for the year?
	You think it's going to be a very normal year, John?
	No, my prediction is that it will be an unpredictable year.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Alex, your predictions for the year?
	I think it's going to be a landslide this fall.
	He's already predicting the election.
	A landslide for who?
	For us.
	The good guys!
	Absolutely.
	Guy, what is your resolution?
	What are you going to do differently this year?
	I'll try to suit Put myself back in shape in this year.
	I looked over some old photos like 13 years ago and just found myself used to be so lean and handsome.
	And I'm just trying to put myself in shape.
	I think PhD is calling.
	I think after Mr. G, I think PhD is calling.
	Predictions for the year?
	Is it going to be crazy or normal, Guy?
	Yes, I would like to do a prediction outside of politics.
	I assume we might land on Mars by the end of this year.
	Okay, he thinks there's something outside of politics.
	Is there anything outside of politics?
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	But Mars!
	We might land on Mars.
	That is exciting.
	Are we going to leave the best, the most cynical to last?
	You're already on PhD.
	Do you have any resolutions left?
	Could you be any better, Jeff?
	No, by resolution, I'm going to make fun of Ron DeSantis more this year.
	That's not possible!
	Eric, is that possible?
	I think it's absolutely possible.
	He should go for it.
	Oh, this is going to get vicious.
	I'm just going to buy more popcorn.
	I'm going to buy shares in popcorn.
	I had popcorn with Katie last night.
	She let us eat popcorn.
	And your predictions, Jeff, for 2024?
	It's going to be a very chaotic year, I would say.
	You say tight?
	No, but I would say I still think the Republicans are going to try something to not have Trump on.
	Oh, you know what, Jeff?
	Last two, three days, I've come to the same conclusion.
	I think they're going to try and do an end run around President Trump, the rhinos, or this thing that I heard, which kind of It's so scary.
	They want Haley in as the Veep nominee so they can then get rid of Trump and then the Rhino establishment, Haley becomes the candidate.
	So guys...
	Scurd your loins.
	That was fun.
	We should do that more often.
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	I always thought that they were doing something that when everybody was kind of thinking about
	running, I mean, when DeSantis, Haley, you know what I mean?
	Pompeo was thinking about it, Pence, all these guys.
	Yes, that was like making sure they found the candidate, right?
	The convention would be their last chance to do it, too.
	They're not going to do it in the primaries, because they know he's going to win.
	I don't think it's going to work, but I think they're going to try something.
	They kind of tried in 2016.
	Obviously, that didn't work, but... Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	Alex's prediction, though.
	That's interesting.
	Do you have any data on that, or is it just your gut, Alex?
	It's my gut.
	Interesting.
	Maybe my friend's RFK theory was implemented, then it could be possible.
	I'll say this, because Trump, again, this is from the Breitbart interview, he's also looking in New York.
	If Trump goes to New York more often and hammers hard on crime and the immigration stuff, Preferably campaigning with Lee Zeldin.
	Say he gets it to within Zeldin's performance, because Zeldin lost by like 6.5, and then if RFK does get on the ballot, that's one of the seven states his PAC is targeting, and makes enough of a difference, Trump squeaking out a victory in New York is not entirely impossible.
	But, I wouldn't bet on it.
	I think Democrats are going to start waking up to all the lies.
	Oh, I think that's a harder thing for somebody to do, personally, but I think a big factor we can't take for granted is Democrats simply not being willing to vote for Biden.
	They don't have to vote for Trump, they just don't vote for Biden.
	And that's all we need, yeah.
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	Thank you, guys.
	When was it, Eric?
	You know this stuff.
	When did I go to Oxford Union to debate Bernie Sanders' brother?
	That was a long time ago, right?
	That was... Like November, right?
	Yeah, mid or late November, I believe.
	Like mid-November.
	Those losers still haven't posted the video.
	Are you afraid, Oxford Union, to post a video of Dr. G debating the merits of a second Trump administration?
	Get your act together.
	In the meantime, he didn't even tell me.
	My buddy, Dennis Prager, went there.
	And I've got a superb clip.
	He's talking about what?
	He's talking about proportionality when you have to kill terrorists.
	Dennis Prager.
	Gaza starts a war to kill as many Israelis as possible, and all you see on the BBC and Sky News is dead Gazans.
	I shudder to think if the same media covered World War II, you would have seen far more dead German civilians than dead British civilians.
	But it takes a very, very frail moral mind to believe that you determine right and wrong by the number of dead.
	That's what we are told.
	Look at how many Gazans were killed, and how few Israelis.
	Well, look how few Brits were killed, and how many more Germans were.
	Does that make the Germans right in World War II?
	That's the facile moral thinking that pervades our world.
	So eloquent.
	I mean, he had fine in his belly, but it was also eloquent.
	The number killed?
	That's not a metric of justice, of rectitude, of who's morally right and wrong.
	Relatively speaking, very few Brits were killed in World War II by the bombings.
	In comparison to how many died in Germany.
	So what does that mean?
	The Holocaust was okay?
	Hitler was a nice person?
	It is truly morally facile.
	It's true idiocy.
	When there's evil propagated by evil people, if they can't be neutralized any other way, they must be killed.
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	I hope you enjoyed our year in review yesterday.
	The best of the best.
	Segments that even I'd forgotten.
	The long list, I think Jeff counted, that I gave you of the things that Joe Biden can be proud of when it comes to his son.
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	So what do we do going forward?
	How do we learn the lessons of the last year and apply them domestically and internationally to save our Republic?
	And save our civilization.
	Let's talk to a man who knows a little bit about warfare, the kinetic variety, and the non-kinetic.
	Former Green Beret, great friend of this show, and just an all-round good guy.
	He's chief editor of the Middle East Forum, Jim Hansen.
	Welcome, Institute.
	Happy New Year.
	Hey, same to you.
	So, a lot of things we can learn from in the last year.
	Is that how we're going to categorize that?
	Horrible year, but we can learn.
	What do they call it?
	Teaching moments.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Let's, I think the bigger thing we need to discuss is what we have to do domestically.
	So let's start with the external.
	Let's have a little clip.
	I used it, I don't know, ten times on the show.
	This is from the Prime Minister of Israel using a little rewriting of history from the wars, the Roman wars with Carthage.
	This is baby Netanyahu.
	First, there's one condition.
	One condition for anything that could happen, and the good things that could happen once this war is over.
	And that condition is that Hamas must be destroyed.
	Hamas must be destroyed.
	Hamas Delenda Est.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Carthago?
	No, we did that.
	Now it's Hamas Delenda Est.
	Easier to say than to do.
	How we do it, let's get to that in a second, but as a guy who's worn the cloth of the Republic, who understands what they do, which is unconventional, irregular warfare, how do you look at the last two months from October 7th, the performance of the Israelis?
	Let's talk about the ground truth, Jim.
	Painfully good.
	And I think, you know, OK, we have to be human about this.
	A lot of Palestinian civilians died.
	We have to be realistic about the fact they elected Hamas overwhelmingly and they still pull Hamas polls exquisitely well.
	You know, they still support 70 to 80 percent.
	So I'm sorry that they're dying.
	But you brought this upon yourselves.
	Without October 7th, there's no civilian casualties.
	There's zero.
	You know, so if you don't want none, don't bring none.
	And they did.
	And Israel has been for too long doing what they call mowing the grass.
	You know, going in and making it okay and hoping it doesn't get worse.
	It got worse.
	They were wrong.
	It was a failure.
	And now they're correcting that failure, and we as the United States should support them both rhetorically and in the way we have by allowing them to have the munitions they need to kill the terrorists who are just horrible people.
	So there will be investigations, commissions, probably years and decades to come on how it happened, how 1,400 Israelis were murdered in an operation that spanned the
	nation.
	One person who gave a shocking answer is a guy who meets regularly with the IDF.
	He's the vice president of a foundation I used to work at.
	That's Jonathan Shanza.
	And he said he was in Israel last year and heard what he had only heard from Obama administration
	quote, unquote, counterterrorism professionals.
	He was being told by members of the IDF and intelligence officers that the Hamas Gaza problem is no longer religious, it's political, and these people can be negotiated with.
	And Jonathan thinks that's part of the trap they fell into of their own making.
	We know better, right?
	You know better.
	I spent years studying who these guys are.
	Here's the dilemma I want you to wrestle with for me.
	What he's talking about, destroying Hamas, You can't.
	70% of Gaza agreed with October 7th.
	They've actually polled openly, which probably means behind closed doors it's probably 80 or 90% agreed with the massacre of the innocents.
	You can't kill everybody.
	The Arab states don't want them.
	They've sealed the borders.
	So you're not going to push them into other lands.
	My expectation is, in that permissive environment for the bad guys, you've got to start whacking the leaders.
	They've started a bit of that, but not like they did after the Black September attacks in Munich at the Olympics.
	They spent months and years, they tracked down all of them, and they killed them wherever they were.
	I think that's the long-term answer.
	But there are other countries involved that you know about.
	So talk to me about what victory looks like in this war, Jim.
	In the very short term, it's going to be an Israeli military occupation.
	They don't want to, but there's no other option.
	You cannot bring in the U.N.
	The U.S.
	won't go in.
	There's no one else to be trusted.
	The Gulf Arab states don't want it.
	You know, so they are going to have to administer for the short term what's happening and allow... So it will have to be a real occupation?
	They have to.
	And that's the short term though.
	Now I have an idea for the longer term, to mid to long term, is to pick whichever tribe or clan has a large enough male population and has been poorly treated by Hamas and put them in charge of a patronage system.
	Let them run.
	Just completely lease their loyalty, pay them, let them run it all.
	So use the Arab cultural dynamic to weaken Hamas.
	Weird.
	Weird how you can take a tribal and honor culture like that and use that to your advantage instead of fighting against it.
	Because there are plenty of people who have been cheated by them and are unhappy with them or just greedy enough to do it on their own.
	So are you talking about, and I'm trying to make analogies here, is this the way that the British leverage the Mughals in India?
	You pick a group that has been disenfranchised, Hamas has exploited, has abused, and you make them your partners for stabilizing the region?
	You give them control of the spoils to distribute.
	And in that patronage system, the rest of them will have to fall in line and you can enforce that as needed.
	I'll give you an even closer to home example.
	The sons of Iraq during the surge.
	We did exactly that.
	You had all of these military age males with no jobs because they'd been, you know, the army had been disbanded and all of that.
	We picked the tribal leaders.
	We gave them the money.
	We said, you get all your males providing security.
	You get your family groups together and you say the money flows through you and if you want some you got to get in line and it worked.
	Now that's in theater.
	What about the international actors for there to really be A lessening of the ideology of death in that region?
	What has to happen?
	Say we get leadership back in the White House, what has to happen?
	That's a good start.
	I think the first thing to recognize is this is not a war between Israel and Hamas.
	This is a war between Israel and the West and Iran.
	Every one of Iran's proxies is now involved.
	The Iraq and Syrian militias, Hezbollah, the Houthis, those are all Iranian tools.
	So right now, essentially, they have started a war in the Middle East.
	They don't want it to escalate into a war because that's when we start punishing them.
	We don't want it to escalate into a war because that's messy.
	But we have to have something more than a, gee, maybe we should shoot down, you know, a thousand dollar drone with a million dollar missile.
	That's a winning proposition for the mullahs, not for us.
	We got to take out some infrastructure for their proxies and potentially take out an Iranian asset just to show them what's happening.
	And 103 attacks on U.S.
	servicemen, some critical 10-hour battles with Iranian proxies like the Houthis.
	How does the world look at that, Jim?
	that we have feckless leadership and we're not willing to be.
	The U.S.
	Navy has one of its primary missions as freedom of navigation because the global economy only works if the United States guarantees the sea lanes.
	We have abdicated that.
	As of this point, all the ships are going around the Horn of Africa, 40% farther Then they need to because we're not willing to do what we built our Navy to do.
	We haven't built it to the extent we need to.
	Maybe it's time to get back to the idea that somebody has to be the world's policeman and we're the only ones capable.
	Dial 9-1-1.
	The only place it rings is here.
	Yeah.
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	A president should bring out the best in all of us.
	That's Nikki Haley.
	She's a leader who builds people up.
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	Just don't ask her what the Civil War was about.
	That was Chris Sununu, a disgusting, filthy rhino from New Hampshire.
	As Jeff said just a few days ago before we broke for the New Year's, it would be hard to imagine a more Empty, rhino campaign ad than that one that says nothing.
	Not a discussion about the border, the economy, national security, fentanyl, nothing!
	Just platitudes.
	How reflexive is that of the party that we have here on one side of the aisle that is meant to be representing our interests?
	Let's ask a man who understands a fair bit about politics and also information operations.
	Jim, let's start with the candidates.
	Uh, Nikki Haley has quite stunningly failed to disabuse anyone of the idea that she's Jeb Bush in high heels.
	Right?
	I mean, that ad!
	Don't put that vision in my mouth.
	I need eye bleach.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I think the thing that that ad said was, I'm not Donald Trump.
	That's all it said.
	The platitudes were just there to say that.
	And no substance.
	No, and I think here's the other thing.
	In the whole, I refused to use the word slavery when the word slavery was a correct answer, was less about that than pandering to what she thinks are the biases of the populist base.
	She thinks we're all knuckle-draggling, troglodyte racists.
	You think that was a conscious decision to be such an idiot on an open mic?
	I think she had been told by her handlers at some point.
	What was she trying to message, do you think?
	She was trying to not use the word slavery so that she didn't make the Civil War about slavery because she believes that the MAGA base and the America First base and all of that are all racists.
	So she actually believes Hillary's deplorable thing?
	100%.
	Absolutely.
	And I think that was an example of it that just slipped.
	And then the really obsequious apology the next day.
	Doesn't look good, does it?
	It was Karen Jean-Pierre-esque, is what it was.
	All she did was add more words to the salad, and it was a waste.
	Have the guts to say, you know, I was wrong.
	I should have just said slavery, and the state right they were mad about was slavery.
	That's intolerable.
	We can't have that.
	That's the right answer.
	And you're out.
	All right, so help me out here.
	We look at the primary race, we look at the attempts to pull the president off the ballots, and it strikes me, except for Ron DeSantis, who clearly modeled his governorship on President Trump, how is it that we're now, what, seven years?
	Down the line.
	And it seems as if the establishment Republican Party still has no clue what happened in 2016.
	Isn't it remarkable?
	They still refuse to fight.
	They don't understand that the one thing that has worked in the past dozen years was punching the other side in the mouth after they kicked us in the nads.
	You know?
	I mean, it's a situation where Trump was the guy who stood up and the first Trump supporter I ever met was my wife's mom.
	I told her she was crazy, he could never win, all that.
	When was that?
	Was that the escalators?
	2015, yeah.
	It was right about a month after that.
	And I'm like, there's no way.
	They'll destroy him.
	They'll take him down.
	And she's like, but he fights.
	And I was like, yeah.
	And I didn't think it was enough.
	It is.
	If you're not fighting, then you have no chance.
	So what is it?
	So if I want to survive, clearly these people want to be reelected.
	They want to be near the trough.
	They want to get the greasy job afterwards.
	How do they just not out of common sense say, oh look, somebody who's pugilistic, somebody who, you know, hits as hard as he gets, he's successful.
	And they see, how do they not see that every time they try and indict him, he goes up in the polls, he gets more money.
	Why does the establishment just, it's as if they're walking around in blindfolds going la la la la la.
	Well, Elon calls it the woke mind virus.
	TDS is a conservative establishment.
	That was a joke.
	That was a joke.
	But this is real.
	But it is.
	The woke mind virus infects the left.
	TDS infects the never-Trump establishment right.
	And they just can't believe he's not eventually—they're like the left.
	They think they're eventually going to catch him.
	You know, they're Wile E. Coyote to his Roadrunner, and they're never going to get him.
	Because the more popular he's getting— They should realize that it's not working.
	They're ignoring reality.
	That's a fact.
	And what is it?
	Insanity is doing the same thing and getting the same result.
	I think they're hopeful that eventually the rest of us will wake up.
	And they've got it backwards.
	We will become enlightened ones.
	Yeah, and we did.
	We elected Trump.
	We decided we'll fight for our country and we're going to do whatever it takes to win.
	And they still believe that losing gracefully is better than fighting, you know, what you
	the way fighting by the rules the left chose.
	You don't have to like them.
	I would choose different ones, but they picked it.
	Now we need to make them suffer under those rules.
	But there's a broader denial of reality as well, isn't there, Jim?
	You've got your international hat on as well at the Middle East Forum.
	This isn't just one guy in one country.
	This goes from Nigel Farage in Brexit, to Orban, to Maloney, to Millet in Argentina.
	How do they not realize that the people just, they've had it with the establishment?
	My Swedish family has told me that there's a rising nationalist feeling there.
	And, you know, it's the crime, it's the immigrants who won't assimilate, it's all those things.
	We all have the same problem.
	Leftist politics don't work.
	Holy crap!
	That's only happened every time they've risen to power.
	They destroy a vibrant, you know, culture and society, and it has to be rebuilt.
	Well, in this case, we've got a chance to save ours.
	And I think the rebound has come.
	I think it's showing.
	And right now, you've got the tribalism is splitting people in a good way.
	You know, our team finally figured out we can't just go along to get along.
	You've got to pick a side.
	And that's been happening in a bigger way, and I think that's what's going to change things.
	All right.
	Well, I'm going to ask next what Jim thinks are going to be the key issues.
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	So, was it Carville?
	I think it was that ugly guy Carville who said it's the economy stupid way back when, Clinton and Bush.
	Sounds about right.
	I know most Americans are normal, unlike you and me.
	They're not political freaks.
	They don't, you know, eat, drink and sleep this stuff.
	What do you think October-November is going to look like?
	Is it going to be pocketbooks?
	Is it going to drive—because, you know, the shocking statistic that—when I first heard it, I thought, oh, my gosh.
	But then I realized people are normal.
	Between 20 and 28 percent of the electorate decide who they're going to vote for in the last 10 days before the election.
	I can swing from, you know, Bernie to Donald.
	That's almost a third of the electorate.
	That's nutso.
	What is going to be in the forefront?
	Because when you look at the border, when you look at Democrat-run cities, you say, well, it's got to be obvious.
	It's got to be the economy, crime, lack of national sovereignty.
	Or is it going to be something more basic, Jim?
	What's your expectation politically?
	I think obviously the economy, because assuming Trump becomes the nominee, then he's running on, didn't you like it better when gas was two bucks and you had money?
	The Reagan argument.
	Yeah.
	But he can also, on top of that, or regardless, schools and our kids are the other one that's just such a great one, because that's something where you take the moms, who are a lot of those swing votes are the wine moms.
	Is you take them out of play for the left tugging at their heartstrings and say, do you really want your kids indoctrinated into this queer insanity and racist insanity that they teach at the public schools, or do you want to get to the point where you get to choose where to educate your child?
	So I think school choice is the other issue that is a safe and good one for us.
	I've said repeatedly, and I'd like it to be my kind of sanity check here, I think the biggest red pilling I'm sure most people have no idea what's going on in Boston Children's Hospital to healthy children.
	Do you think that the understanding, because I'm sure most people have no idea what's going
	on in Boston Children's Hospital to healthy children.
	Do you think it's going to be a big issue?
	Because school choice is kind of a more gentle way of saying it.
	Right.
	Is that going to be the angle?
	School choice?
	I think it's the smart way to play it because you get it that way.
	Right.
	You know, if you get to the point and the angle to take is the money should follow the child, you know, parents should be in control.
	Right here in Virginia, remember when Yunkin and Terry McAuliffe, that was the moment he killed himself.
	No, parents don't have a role.
	We're in charge now.
	Right.
	That is the angle where you can look at everybody.
	Every parent's ears pricked up and said, screw you, buddy.
	That's where to go.
	And then by doing that, we take control of the queer and racist insanity and push it to the side.
	The other one I think that's a good one is they're killing DEI now.
	The diversity, equity and inclusion game, Meta and Instagram and the other major tech companies are taking it out.
	Google?
	Really?
	Yeah, they are slashing their DEI corporate entity.
	Now is that ideological because these guys pushed it or is it economic because they can't afford it?
	It's both economic, because it's productivity kilter, because you build a grievance-mongering culture where every disparate impact for a minority is a way to file a grievance and get a complaint and get a promotion.
	But also they're afraid of lawsuits because it's racial discrimination.
	DEI is discrimination by whatever category you want to, and the Supremes in that college admissions case, they stuck in there.
	If you read far enough into it, it says you cannot use disparate impact in any way to conduct racism to fix that.
	That's everywhere.
	That's the EI.
	But how do we talk about that because not everybody's Chris Ruffo and understands it all, right?
	What's the way to package it?
	The way to fix historical racism is not more racist.
	It's Justice Roberts.
	He said it.
	Love it, love it.
	Yeah, God bless President Trump for giving us three new associate justices in the Supreme Court without him.
	Oh, I haven't even asked him.
	We've got to talk about the life issue, the abortion issue, because I think the GOP doesn't understand there is a way to talk about it.
	They've been running away from it, which is absurd.
	Especially after last year's victory, so we'll be talking about strategies next up, not just how the voters are thinking.
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	Okay, so I want to ask you what a second Trump administration, good guys back in the White
	House have to do.
	But first, there's this thing that really annoys me.
	And it's—you know, as a Catholic, when I hear Catholics especially say, President Trump needs to, you know, prove his credentials on pro-life.
	And I say, how many presidents spoke at the March for Life?
	Not even Reagan did.
	And do you remember what Roe v. Wade is and who helped get rid of it?
	So, enough of that.
	But beyond that, there's this neuralgia for Republicans when it comes to elections and abortion.
	They just don't want to talk about it.
	And here's my take.
	Two things.
	And tell me if I'm wrong.
	You know information warfare.
	The president.
	You talk about, well, we struck down Roe v. Wade, which means it goes back to the states where the people should decide, because we're a republic.
	And then, end of conversation.
	And if there's some idiot reporter like, you know, with Nikki Haley that pushes an issue and wants to do the, you know, Admiral Ackbar trap, you say, you don't talk about six weeks, seven weeks, 16 weeks.
	Don't even go down there.
	Talk about the lunatics of the other side.
	Like, you know, the person who would have been the speaker, Hakeem Jeffries, who said, yeah, abortion until the ninth month.
	Make the other side look extreme without having to go down a rabbit warren.
	How should this topic be handled by the good guys, Jim?
	You know, the greatest information warfare victory for the conservative cause ever was getting pro-life as our tax.
	Yes!
	That was just, I mean, we get so many things wrong and we have horrible marketing, or none, that was one time where we absolutely nailed it and I think it has, it's kept on.
	To your point, to continue in that, you do what you said.
	They're the crazy ones.
	We don't have to say, oh, well, abortion after conception must be the rule of the law.
	No.
	Don't talk about those things.
	Talk about the fact that we're just trying to make sure that babies aren't being killed when they're viable.
	Stick with viability, however far back that goes, because it keeps sliding back.
	And where does life begin?
	Well, then you're on the continuum.
	But you're already winning because you've got a good word.
	Viability.
	Exactly.
	Viability is life.
	It's a continuation of pro-life.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	All right, let's talk about, God willing, if we do everything that needs to be done and we re-elect President Trump, where do we start?
	All right, there's so many different ways to tackle this.
	Let's talk about if Jim Hansen is president for the day, where would you begin on January 21st?
	What are the EOs?
	What are the personnel measures?
	What is the information operation you begin?
	What are your druthers?
	I would bring in the Chief of Staff for Javier Mele and put him in charge and say, whatever you told your boss to do, here's a list of things we hate, make them go away.
	What an awesome job of completely gutting a bloated, disgraceful, kleptocracy.
	Two-thirds of the government.
	Gone.
	Regulations, gone.
	Woke language, gone.
	Do it all.
	And here's the thing.
	I would take the list from everybody you have, combine them, and do them all.
	Just anything, just make everything an executive order, do it, and make them fight it.
	That's the problem.
	That's what we don't do.
	They do it to us.
	Biden had 75 executive orders the first week.
	We need to have 250 the first day and make them fight to claw it back, because that's resources they have to spend and time they can't spend attacking us if we put them on defense.
	We always fail to put the other side on defense.
	Here's the root question.
	Do we have the bench of smart, aggressive lawyers to do that?
	Because they do.
	I mean, they've got the Mark Eliases crawling out of the woodwork.
	Here's the thing.
	Do it poorly.
	I don't care.
	Just do it.
	I'll write it for you.
	Flood the zone.
	Exactly.
	Use a lot of wherefores and wherefores and whereases.
	Hence.
	Me and Schlichter will write all these orders for you.
	We'll get it done.
	Implement it and make them fight it.
	And then when they fight, when they fight one, then we bring the good lawyers to the place they counterattack.
	Right?
	So push them all out.
	Make all the emails happen.
	Get them timed out.
	And when they go, OK, we're going to attack back here, then we're like, OK, all our smart guys go over here.
	Love it.
	Love it.
	If he wins, what do you expect from the other side, Jim?
	Wow, a revolution.
	I think they've shown what worked for the left.
	Antifa, BLM, George Floyd riots.
	Right.
	What's working right now for the Hamas people in the United States, they're conducting violent riots.
	Intimidation.
	Things that are going on here.
	So what on earth is going to stop them when their worst nightmare happens?
	There's nothing to stop them, because they've shown that they don't pay a price for it.
	So, I would hope that they just have somewhere in the back of their minds a glimmer of the idea that maybe that's a bad idea.
	But I don't think they do.
	No, no, no, no.
	And that's where we're going to be.
	And who's going to be driving it?
	Is it the NGOs?
	Because Biden's going to be just kicked to the gutter.
	Obama's going to be on Hawaii.
	Is it going to be their network?
	The Soros and other leftist billionaires have their pathways for money to flow down to their grassroots to fund these astroturf things, like the whole Moss thing.
	None of those groups are organic.
	Where do you buy a Palestinian flag in New York?
	And, you know, all of that stuff they'll be doing again and good.
	Because I think the more they show that they actually believe it's a revolution and act that way, the more people will understand when we throw their asses in jail.
	We need to throw them in jail, put them in prison, every single thing.
	Pardon all the J6ers and throw them in jail and make them fight that.
	It's time to play hardball.
	No more Marquis of Queensbury rules.
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	Ooh, dude!
	I'm going to have to inform Flickner that you've got a cruise coming.
	It's not the National Review, OK?
	It's not the National Review.
	Jonah Goldberg shows up.
	There might be some 50 cows on each end of that ship.
	Go whale hunting or something to make up for it.
	There you go.
	What do we need to build?
	If we win, that we haven't built—I'm not talking about the government.
	I'm talking about the stuff the left built that we have just ignored for 40 years.
	Where do we begin, Jim?
	Farm teams.
	You know, that's—like you said, how will the left implement their revolution?
	Well, they do it.
	They've built an entire array of dark money, feeding nonprofits, feeding— So is it foundation?
	Where do we begin?
	Well, the problem is Con Inc.
	is just a good place to spend money and accomplish.
	Hang on, you write white papers.
	Come on, Jim.
	I love white papers.
	I love action papers.
	But we need to build a farm team of people so that when we have a chance to go into government, government's never been a place where our team wants to go.
	No.
	You know, it's not.
	If you've got brains on the right, you're going to business.
	You make money.
	Yeah.
	So we have to create a way to say this is now a patriotic action.
	You're never going to say, okay, this is the way to make a billion dollars, but you can say, if you're smart, don't you want to build a country that your children can grow up in and have a better life than you did, like it used to be?
	And then create a farm team out of the people who are willing to do that.
	It's funny, somebody just showed me how much money Christopher Wray made before he came back.
	He made $8 million in one year.
	And he came back to be director of the FBI.
	I wonder why, Jim?
	Weird.
	Isn't that weird?
	So, we need a few more Elon Musks on our side?
	Yeah.
	And then create out of those.
	Now, if we get DEI out of the corporations, then you can have a business to government back and forth like they have an activist non-profit to government back and forth.
	But it's a change of culture.
	For them, it's not unusual to go from a really juicy, lucrative job into government.
	For us, that's kind of alien.
	One of the things they did with DEI is this whole idea of community service and giving back.
	Let's just take that and say one of the ways you can give back is by becoming part of making sure our country survives.
	So we'll give you a two-year sabbatical to go work in government, and then you come back and you get your job plus whatever pay raises you would have gotten.
	And consider it like service, like the way they do with the National Guard.
	Yeah.
	Guard service has to be respected, and you come back and you get your job back.
	Well, government service should maybe be the same way.
	What a crazy idea that you could serve your nation and not wear a uniform like this man did, and you wouldn't even have to eat snakes like he did.
	What a great idea.
	Thank you, Jim Hansen, for ringing in the new year and for showing us that there is a plan.
	And as I've said before, at the end of the year, don't come up to me or Jim and say, can we save our republic?
	The answer to that is, what are you doing about it?
	We must save it.
	That's the right answer.
	That's the right approach.
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