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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Israel preparing for ground operation

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	♪♪ ♪♪
	♪♪ Do you see in Joe Biden a cognitive decline?
	And if so, is that a danger to the country?
	I do.
	I think most of us do.
	That's reality.
	This is not a personal slight to him.
	It has to do with age and acumen, and everyone's different.
	Everyone ages differently.
	Clearly, if you look at a tape of Joe Biden making an argument in the Senate Judiciary Committee a few years ago, and you see a speech that he delivers now, there's a difference.
	Again, I mean, it's not a personal insult to him.
	It's just reality.
	He is in cognitive decline.
	That is the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, saying it like it is.
	And he is already being targeted and attacked remorselessly and relentlessly by the establishment and by the mainstream lying legacy media.
	That's good enough for me.
	Welcome dear friends.
	Friday is usually a fun day.
	We already have the phones open.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	But we will probably have a slightly heavier note for the first two hours at least.
	Why?
	Because the news was announced about 90 minutes ago that the land operation, finally, after almost three weeks, the land operation by Israel into the Gaza Strip to bring permanent and eternal justice to the perpetrators of the October 7th attacks will be Imminent.
	Rockets are already firing over Gaza from IDF emplacements and the ground action is expected imminently.
	We will give you updates as we go along.
	I will be hosting, guest hosting, a special live edition of Eric Bolling's The Balance Show this evening at eight o'clock on Newsmax.
	We will have the very best guests available Please make sure after you've listened to our analysis here with our special guests that you tune in tonight 8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	You can watch it for free.
	Download the app.
	You don't even need a cable box.
	Newsmax 8 p.m.
	this evening on the East Coast.
	I will be guest hosting for my good friend Eric Bolling.
	So what does this mean?
	Let me give you a condensed Summary if you will a little brief personalized national security briefing given what I did for a living from Wow, when did I join the British Army 19?
	Wow, 1988 is when I started dabbling in national security issues all the way up to
	deputy to the president in the White House in 2017. So let's have a little bit of perspective first.
	Next.
	This is not World War 3.
	Okay?
	When we say World War 3, we are talking about nation against nation, alliance against alliance.
	We are talking about main battle tanks, cruisers, frigates, We're talking about bombers, fighter aircraft.
	We're talking about conventional warfare between multiple states at the same time.
	We're not there.
	We're not there yet.
	And I would give the chance of a world war erupting less than 5%.
	Why?
	America doesn't have leadership right now.
	I'll give you that.
	What the Speaker said is absolutely right.
	We have a Commander-in-Chief who is not cognitively capable.
	Beyond that, we have a team working for the Biden regime who really have no idea what they're doing.
	No idea.
	This is demonstrated by the fact that the highest ranking person in the field, the National Security Advisor, who actually outranks the Secretary of Defense, outranks the Secretary of State.
	He is the direct advisor to the President for National Security Affairs.
	Jake Sullivan, what was it, five weeks ago?
	The clip is viral already, stated that the Middle East hasn't been this stable in decades.
	Yeah.
	Jake Sullivan, the man most responsible outside of John McCain for propagating the Russia collusion hoax dossier.
	Mm-hmm.
	Look it up.
	That pencil pusher, pencil-necked dweeb of an insult to manhood is the National Security Advisor, and he has no idea what he's doing.
	Nevertheless, whilst the nation is being run by idiots, dullards, senile old men and incompetents, on a purely factual basis, America remains the most powerful nation in the world.
	Let me give you one instance.
	You look at our capacity to project force.
	We have 12 nuclear aircraft carriers.
	We have 12 vessels that each have thousands, up to 6,000 personnel on a floating platform that can launch dozens of airstrikes and missile strikes at the flick of a switch.
	Nuclear-powered, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Our nearest competitor, China, which is a peer competitor, which is a deadly threat to us strategically, has won.
	Diesel-powered aircraft carrier.
	It bought second-hand, used, from Ukraine.
	We are not a superpower anymore.
	We are a hyper-power, to use a term coined by a French analyst.
	Nobody comes close to us.
	We have capabilities other nations can only dream of.
	As a result, the idea of any nation going toe-to-toe with us in conventional warfare would be an utter suicide mission for that nation.
	Israel is not a hyper-power, but it is a nuclear power.
	If you look up the open source material, you will find that it does not admit that, but it has developed its own nuclear capabilities.
	As such, it has a unique capacity in the region.
	Even if Iran, that wishes to destroy Israel, wishes to destroy America, wanted to try to do so, they couldn't, because they do not have that capability.
	I said it before and I'll say it again.
	Israel, and it will be demonstrated right now, As we watch the skies over Gaza, we'll do what has to be done to survive.
	It is a nation of nine million people who lost six million of their brethren in the Holocaust.
	Doesn't matter which party you're from, whether you're Likud, whether you're the Conservatives, whether you're Orthodox faction, it doesn't matter.
	All Israelis have vowed to never allow that to happen again.
	Now they have to rescue the innocents, the women, the dozens of children, the grandmothers, The Grandparents.
	Do you realize that that 85 year old woman that was released three days ago that CNN said was was so well treated she was given shampoo?
	Yes that's you Erin Burnett making excuses for terrorists.
	That woman's husband He's still in captivity.
	These people are animals.
	Anyone who can slaughter infants in the crib is an animal.
	They are not humans.
	And they must be showed the wrath of a righteous nation.
	So, be calm.
	Don't learn from the hysterics.
	Pray for our friends in Israel.
	Pray for the fate of those who are being held hostage by Hamas.
	And please, as we sign off every day here on America First, keep your head on a swivel.
	Understand your surroundings, because you are responsible for the safety of not only yourself, but your family, your loved ones.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	It's Friday.
	We've only just begun.
	The phone number is 833-33-GORKA, that's 833-334-6752.
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	Oh, wow.
	Oh wow, um...
	Main point.
	Yeah.
	Um...
	More valuable than college degrees or something like that?
	No, I love this thing about the workbench.
	Oh, yeah.
	I liked your belt more like a... What did he say?
	Polack, right?
	Yeah.
	What I always... What makes a real man?
	That's good.
	You really would have been good for manhood.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Alright, we have him on the line.
	Wow.
	The mics are hot.
	Bye!
	Hey, buddy!
	Hey, how are you, sir?
	Good.
	It's a really good picture.
	What are you using?
	Sony FX30.
	It's a cinematic camera.
	Great.
	Can you track over... Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect.
	Where are you physically?
	I'm in the old city of Jerusalem.
	It's about 200 meters that way.
	Beautiful, beautiful.
	All right.
	And it's night... What is it there?
	It's 10 o'clock, right?
	10 o'clock at night.
	Can you join us later on Bowling Show?
	No, I'm going to be moving down to Ashkelon.
	How do I introduce you?
	What's the correct title?
	Just Chuck Holton.
	I don't know what Newsmax wants you to call me.
	No, well, this isn't Newsmax.
	This is my show.
	Do you want me to call you War Correspondent, Newsmax Correspondent?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay, great.
	Freelance War Correspondent, whatever.
	Oh, freelance, okay.
	Freelance War Correspondent.
	Okay, and then have we got his... I had, well, I have his Twitter handle and I also had a host Hot Zone podcast.
	Good, perfect.
	Okay, Hot Zone.
	Well, you want to change that to War Correspondent, though.
	No, War Correspondent.
	Freelance War Correspondent.
	Okay.
	And just leave his Twitter up there.
	Yep.
	Alright.
	90 seconds Chuck, and then we will be with you for one segment.
	Have you got good PPE?
	You got some ceramic plates?
	Good stuff?
	Well, you don't want ceramic plates for shrapnel.
	That's for gunfighting.
	And I'm not gonna get shot out here.
	If I get blown up, that'd be... I need wraparound armor.
	I need all the armor I can get.
	But, uh, here in Jerusalem it's pretty safe at the moment.
	Good.
	Oh, do you want this?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
	That's fine.
	It's up to you.
	Yeah, it's fine by me.
	No.
	Okay, good.
	I've been doing hits for about four different networks tonight, so... Great.
	Are you doing anything that's not American?
	Uh, no.
	No.
	CBN, Newsmax, you...
	And Tony Perkins.
	Oh, great.
	Nice.
	Washington Watch.
	30.
	What link are we doing this through?
	Skype or?
	Skype.
	It's Skype.
	Excellent.
	All right, so... Do you want to come in with anything?
	No.
	Israel with that.
	You making sense.
	out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Bye!
	Well, we will be talking imminently with the eternal capital of the Israeli state, with Jerusalem.
	The ground offensive is about to begin.
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	He is a war correspondent like no other.
	I've used footage of him rescuing people from a hospital in Ukraine and now he is of course where the action is in Jerusalem.
	We are delighted to connect live with my good friend Chuck Holton.
	Chuck, welcome back to America First.
	Hi Seb, nice to see you.
	Alright, so we see footage of rockets flying over Gaza.
	We've had the IDF, the government, make official statements to the effect that ground operations are imminent.
	What are you hearing?
	What are the expectations?
	And put it into the broader context, I've been talking to lots of Israelis in the last few weeks and they're saying Are you all right there?
	Is everything okay, Chuck?
	Yeah, there's an explosion just off here in the Old City just now.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, stay frosty, my friend.
	We're talking to a lot of Israelis who are saying that they were getting impatient and they want to see action.
	So put everything into context for our millions of listeners right now.
	Right.
	Well, actually, as of about 30 seconds before you called me, the ground operation is officially underway.
	Tanks have just crossed the border into northern Gaza.
	Now, this is the major operation.
	What we've been saying since the beginning is that you have to—if the communications are still up in Gaza, then the operation is not underway yet, because the IDF is not going to send in their full force.
	Without cutting off every kind of communications inside Gaza.
	They have the ability to do that with the help of the United States.
	That's one of the ways that the U.S.
	is actually participating in this battle.
	By flying these special airplanes over Gaza and jamming all the communications.
	We saw the last internet node in Gaza go offline earlier today.
	And now landline communications and cell phone communications are out.
	As well.
	But this operation really has not started the way that we thought it would with shock and awe and all that.
	That may be coming.
	But what they've been doing are these shaping operations for the last three weeks.
	But the last two nights, they have now started going into Gaza with a sizable force, up to 100 armored vehicles at a time.
	And they've done that both nights.
	And then they have also gone and they've gone In from the sea as well last night.
	And so they are picking their targets carefully.
	The commander of the IDF has made a statement tonight that they are going to be very methodical, very slow, and they're going to just go, you know, house by house if they have to until they get this thing done.
	But he said you should expect it to take a long time.
	Now, the bigger concern, Seb, is what's What are the rest of this—of their adversaries in this area going to do?
	You've got over 2 million Arabs in the West Bank right now, and they're heavily armed.
	They've just—last night, the IDF pushed into the West Bank on a pretty large mission with over 100 vehicles and took out some weapons caches, from what I understand, that have been sent in from Iran.
	So, those guys are heavily armed, and they did shoot back.
	There was a firefight in Judea and Samaria last night.
	So, what's going to happen there tonight?
	We don't know.
	I can tell you, standing here about 200 yards from the wall of the old city of Jerusalem, there has been AK-47 fire coming from over there, off and on, in the last hour or two.
	And just now, as you saw me look over, there was an explosion over there, a small one.
	Sounded like maybe a hand grenade.
	There was also some shooting back this way.
	And so, it's obvious that the extremist Muslims have planned that when this operation does kick off, that they're going to kick off their own operations in different places around Israel.
	Now did you hear what Chuck Houlton just said?
	He said he heard AK fire.
	How does he know the difference?
	Because he's a former military man.
	AK-47 sounds a lot different than an M4 or 5.56.
	You can be followed at Ranger Houlton right now.
	You bring a unique A perspective as a man who's worn the cloth of the Republic.
	Can you talk to us about just how difficult this will be in terms of urban warfare, you know, CQB.
	This isn't classic battlefield warfare.
	This is going to get very messy very fast, is it not?
	It is, and a close quarters battle, as you mentioned CQB, is the most difficult kind of fighting.
	They say that it takes four times as much ammunition to clear out an area that's a built-up area as it would if it was an open area.
	Obviously, armies always prefer to fight in an open area because it's sort of two-dimensional.
	When you're in an urban environment, it's three-dimensional because you can be shot from so many different angles, and that's really what it comes down to.
	It's all about the geometry.
	When you train to fight in an urban environment, you train to think about the angles all the time.
	So one of the reasons why the IDF has been reducing much of northern Gaza to rubble in the last three weeks is because they're trying to reduce the number of angles
	from which you can be shot.
	And they have done a good job at that. If you look at the before and after
	satellite photos of northern Gaza, it has been just pulverized.
	It looks like Bakhmut at this point. And that means that when they do go in, as they go
	in right now, the very first vehicles that will go in to lead off the attack will be D-12 cat
	bulldozers that are armored.
	And they're some of the largest vehicles you've ever seen, the size of a house.
	These things are enormous.
	But they've got to recreate roads for these guys because you can't take, say, an armored personnel carrier or an infantry fighting vehicle over much of the piles of rubble that are going to be there where the roads used to be.
	Yeah.
	So they've got to take those out, you know, clear those out as they go in.
	But that also serves to clear out whatever booby traps, IEDs or anything like that that could have been laid in there.
	But they're already saying, I saw just before I came on with you, that as they pushed across the border into Gaza, that they immediately started getting into firefights.
	So there is heavy fighting happening right now in the northern part of Gaza as we speak.
	Well, stay safe, my friend.
	He is the host of the Hot Zone podcast.
	He's going to be a very, very busy man tonight and for the next few days and weeks.
	Follow him at Ranger Holton.
	We've been talking to Chuck Holton.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 5, 2.
	Um, do you have, oh.
	7 5 2.
	Do you have?
	Yeah.
	No, I was gonna ask Jeff if he has Ronnie Jackson's phone number.
	It was that moment when he suddenly sharply turned his head and looked off-camera.
	I was just like, oh my gosh.
	I know, it's like, what the frick?
	Um, oh, titles for Monologue and Holton.
	Um, what's your name?
	Thank you.
	Geoff says he doesn't have that number, by the way.
	I've got it, I've got it.
	Is this the brink of World War 3?
	For Holton?
	Oh, good.
	Okay.
	Who sent these?
	I want you to rotate them and start using them.
	Oh, good.
	OK.
	Who sent these?
	Oh, OK.
	And then title for Holton as well.
	Holton.
	Hamas is already responding to the IDF's ground incursion.
	And can you get Casio to post that ASAP?
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	Yeah.
	Let's see, anything here?
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	You You
	Congresswoman Will you denounce Hamas?
	Will you denounce Hamas?
	Why do you support terrorists?
	You're dehumanizing Palestinians.
	No, you're supporting terrorists.
	No, you're supporting terrorists.
	You're supporting terrorists.
	She is just bloody unrepentant.
	That's Rashida Tlaib.
	The Congresswoman, who on the first day she was sworn in, next to her, what was it, eight-year-old son, screamed, we're going to impeach the mother effer, in front of her son, and who has a Palestinian flag outside her offices in the U.S.
	Congress, our buddy Ben Burquam, Asked her, why won't she denounce Hamas?
	And what is her response?
	Did you hear what she said?
	She said, you're dehumanizing Palestinians.
	There's a couple of problems with that statement.
	Number one, there is no such thing as a Palestinian.
	There are Arabs, but there's no such thing as Palestine.
	Palestine was a name created by the Romans to insult the Jews of that period 2000 years ago to call them philistines that's where the word comes from doesn't exist except for an insult unless you want to insult jews and secondly why is denouncing the terrorists who kill babies dehumanizing to anyone
	If there's anybody who's non-human, it's the terrorists, surely.
	That's a member of Congress.
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	We're not really making fun of him here though.
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	Thank you Dr. Gorka.
	I just wanted to say that we're praying for the IDF forces as they go into Gaza to root out the Hamas terrorists and also I'm hoping that these people that are calling for more gun control learn the lesson that the Israelis have had to reverse their stand on arming their population and we need to We need to sustain our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Sally.
	Yeah, you can wish that, but you know they won't, because they want us unarmed.
	Because an unarmed population aren't citizens, they're our subjects.
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	Thank you, Sally.
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	All right, I've just been messaged on a secure system from a friend in the Middle East.
	Let me give you a quick situation update, a sit-rep as we call it in the military.
	For a second night, a column of Israeli army tanks and infantry have staged a 0.6-mile incursion into northern Gaza, striking at Hamas positions in preparation for a larger invasion tonight.
	The column is back on Israeli territory.
	The Air Force has struck numerous Hamas targets in Gaza, reporting the deaths of five Hamas commanders, including three who led a battalion that was the key element of the October 7th murderous rampage into southern Israel, including also Hamas's deputy intelligence.
	Chief.
	Hamas has responded with rounds of rocket strikes in Tel Aviv.
	Apartment buildings were hit and also the Petah Tikva suburb.
	At least three injuries were reported.
	Property damage in Israel was extensive.
	That's the latest update from the ground.
	We will keep you posted.
	We're keeping an eye on the cable news as well and we won't miss any breaking news as soon as we have it.
	We will share it with you.
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	It's always a lot of fun.
	I enjoy talking with you.
	Well, we've got to talk more about whether we can save the Bureau from the corruption.
	Breaking news earlier this week about how the FBI shut down a prosecutor who had evidence on the Bidens.
	But first things first, talk to us about your campaign.
	Why are you running and what is your message to the people of the Commonwealth?
	Well, I'll tell you, the reason why I'm running is this is just a continuation of service with me.
	You mentioned the FBI.
	I am retired from the FBI.
	But prior to that, I was a Navy helicopter pilot for eight years, then I worked corrections, I was a DC police officer, then I went into the FBI.
	And Sebastian, what I do now is I went back to school after I retired, got a second master's degree, and I'm an addictions therapist at a major hospital here, where I help people overcome mental health and drug addiction issues.
	Which is why I decided to run for the Virginia State Senate, because the number one killer
	of the people between the ages of 18 and 39 is fentanyl.
	Fentanyl alone.
	That's not including all of the other drugs, all of the other issues that we have out there.
	That's just fentanyl alone.
	And that's going to destroy this nation.
	You can see that we're on the brink of war.
	That happens to be the military age.
	And I was also very, very, very upset about how our police were treated after the summer
	of 2020 up until now. And we cannot staff police departments. These great men and women
	that are out serving our communities every single day are being demonized and attacked.
	We cannot staff any departments. And we need people that are going to deal with the mental
	health issue, the addiction issue, and get our police back on track, so we can make our
	community safe. Because every single crime statistic you can think of has gone up. And
	we need to get the Senate back in Virginia, so we can take care of this problem.
	The governor's committed to that.
	I'm committed to that.
	And do not forget that Jennifer Foy, my opponent, led the charge to defund the police and demoralize them.
	And she still says, even as of last week, I was at a forum, and she said that our criminal justice system, from top to bottom, We've got a minute left.
	My wife is running the early voting today.
	She's been knocking on 900 doors to get people energized to vote.
	out there now. Sebastian, we got to put an end to this. We need adults back in the room.
	Yeah, we've got a minute left. My wife is, you know, she's running the early voting today.
	She's been knocking on 900 doors to get people energized to vote. What is your message to those
	who aren't paying attention to this off, you know, election year election and who, you know,
	are going to sit out the election at home? What do you say to them, Mike?
	First of all, I'm going to say, get up off the couch and go vote.
	If COVID taught us one thing, the state and local offices impact your life more than we ever thought that they did.
	In fact, if you think about it, the state and local offices touch your life directly.
	And on November 8th, which is the day after the election, if the Democrats are in control in Virginia, you're really, really not going to like that.
	This is a very important election, and it will decide the fate of Virginia.
	Guys, we're about this close to losing our country and our state, the great commonwealth of Virginia.
	And the governor has a little over a year left in office and he has a lot to get done.
	Nearly all of the good things that he wanted to do was blocked by the Senate.
	Stopped by the Senate enrichment.
	That's why we need Mike Van Meter there.
	Follow him at Van Meter for VA.
	That's M-E-T-E-R.
	But most important of all, go to vanmeder4virginia.com.
	That's vanmeder4virginia.com.
	Let's get you back in studio for a longer discussion about your former bureau.
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	Play it!
	Play it loud, John.
	Okay, guys, you gotta know that music.
	Thank you.
	Lalo Schifrin's theme from Shaft!
	Iconic, iconic.
	Played by none other than Richard Rowntree, who left us a tad early in my opinion.
	He left us on Tuesday this week.
	He was born in 1942.
	Richard Arnold Roundtree, rest in peace.
	What an iconic piece of cinema history.
	I think I know what I'm going to watch this weekend.
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	Let's go to your calls, our good buddies.
	Somewhere in the tall grass.
	Ray from Livermore.
	In the tall grass, brother.
	Deep behind enemy lines.
	Richard Rountree and Shaft.
	That was the great Isaac Hayes.
	Oh, sorry.
	Isaac Hayes.
	Ah, yes, yes, yes.
	Isaac Hayes.
	Yes.
	Lalo Schifrin was Mission Impossible, right?
	No, Richard Rowntree, I think, played Shaft, but Isaac Hayes was the musician responsible for the music.
	Yes, and also the villain from The Escape from New York.
	Yes, the movie.
	I believe you guys did that a few weeks ago.
	Yes.
	But, you know, I called because I have an important question, but first I want to say, you know, when I was in the ending, the only guy I knew was hanging around with the ladies of the night, and he actually acquired a rishita in the lower regions but
	fortunately for a couple of shots of penicillin he was able to get over that uh that rishita that he had
	What was Bob France when he was covering for me?
	What did he call Tlaib, Eric?
	He called her Sharia.
	Sharia Tlaib.
	I was listening from California.
	I said, dude, that is too funny.
	It's beautiful, yeah.
	But, you know, the Republicans, when they're running, they're constantly badgered to denounce white supremacy, the neo-Nazis, denounce the Oath Keepers, denounce the Pro-Bears, we dare you!
	This is something we need to do with them.
	Denounce Hamas Hezbollah.
	Denounce the river to the sea.
	Denounce Gaza Jews.
	We've got to put this in their faces every day, Dr. G, and make these people squirm.
	You can see her squirm when she gets those questions.
	I have a brand new article.
	I think it went up yesterday on AMAC.
	It's called about the great Jew hatred switcheroo.
	The institutionalized antisemitism in America belongs to the Democrats.
	We've got to pin that tail on that donkey because they are the new Jew haters and we've got to make that a test for every single one of them.
	They have to denounce Hamas publicly or the American people will know who the real Jew haters are.
	That's perfect.
	Thank you, Ray.
	Stay safe in the long grass.
	I think you should call up Patriot Mobile, because that phone, that sounds a little bit like in need of an update.
	David and Todd have got the same question.
	I might take their call in the top of the hour before we go to the Barron.
	So a fascinating question they share.
	So don't go anywhere, David, Todd, Elliot.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	On the side of the U.S.
	Constitution, America first.
	Now that's Friday music, a little bit of Hawaii Five-0.
	Garrett's hairdo is so impressive as he looks at the camera from the balcony of the hotel in Hawaii.
	If you know what I'm talking about, you're part of the best vintage.
	If you don't, try harder.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
	Some people you've just got to please!
	One of them is my auntie in California, sending me lovely texts about what a great first hour that was.
	Phew!
	If my auntie's satisfied, everything's alright in the world.
	All right we've got to connect with Boris momentarily but two questions we're going to take right now very quickly and then save them for our buddy Jim Carufano.
	Line two, David Orlando.
	Hello Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me on your show.
	Sure, what's your question quickly because you've got the same question as Todd and it's fascinating.
	One of the biggest mistakes that President Trump made was discontinuing aid to the Kurds.
	Right now we have Erdogan Threatening Israel and demanding that he's be able to supply aid to the Palestinians.
	And if I were President Trump right now, I'd give him a reminder call of what he did, of suspending aid to the Kurds.
	Okay, good, good, good, good.
	Stay listening to the show.
	Kurds, Erdogan, on the same theme.
	Todd, Atlanta, Pony on top of that call.
	Yes, it's been a centennial since the San Remo Conference delusion of the Ottoman Empire and the birth of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Can we trust Erdogan?
	I don't trust him.
	I trust the snake before I trust Erdogan.
	You're a wise man, Todd.
	We're going to take both of your questions and we're going to give them to our Mr. National Security, Colonel Carafano, Dr. Carafano momentarily.
	Great, great questions.
	That's why we're here on Friday.
	But let's turn the focus inward to the great Baron Boris Epstein.
	Welcome back.
	Happy Friday!
	Happy Friday.
	Thank you so much.
	Honor be with you.
	Honor be with the audience.
	I'm a little bit jelly of you, Boris, because you've been sending me photographs of, let's just say, rather good cigars over the last two days, and I've got some catching up to do.
	Yes, you do, my friend.
	Well, I'm looking forward to getting the same pictures from you over the weekend.
	Yeah, my wife will be out of town at a baby shower, so I think I might be getting maybe too many cigars in this weekend, and I will be sending you photographs.
	Okay, can I run an idea past you, Boris?
	Absolutely.
	Not my idea.
	About 20 minutes ago, we had an amazing caller, one of our regulars out in California, and he said, What journalists are doing every day to Rashida, to AOC, to Ilhan Omar, we should demand this of all Democrats.
	And if they can't answer that question, they should be disowned by the American people.
	If they cannot disavow and disown Hamas, and they cannot support Israel's right to defend themselves, shouldn't those Democrat politicians be made to feel the heat politically, Boris?
	No doubt, absolutely.
	Anybody who's out there supporting terror, supporting Hamas, supporting anti-American activities, supporting anti-Semitism should absolutely be asked those key questions, should feel the pressure, and the bottom line is this.
	America is in danger.
	Our greatest ally, Israel, is in danger.
	The world is in danger.
	Why?
	Because of the weakness of pathetic, sad, corrupt, crooked Joe Biden and the Democrats.
	They've allowed our world to get completely destroyed, and we need President Trump back in the Oval Office to save America and save the world.
	Let's just play a shocking cut.
	This is the late... I mean, like, every day there's multiple ones.
	This is from UCLA.
	This is students just chanting something that really... I know we have a First Amendment, but the fact that these kids are so utterly brainwashed is shocking.
	Cut five.
	Israel, Israel, you cannot hide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	Israel, Israel, you cannot hide.
	Israel, Israel, you cannot hide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	Israel, Israel, you cannot hide.
	Israel, Israel, you cannot hide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	We've got to do the genocide.
	Students at UCLA who are saying, Israel, Israel, you can't hide Jewish genocide, Boris.
	Boris.
	It's just wrong.
	Well, here's what they should do.
	Why don't those students go down to Israel and see what they're going to do about it and face off against the IDF, face off against Mossad, face off against Jinnah.
	These are idiots.
	These are absolute embarrassments to America.
	And let's be honest, they're embarrassments to humanity.
	And they want to be out there spewing this hatred, spewing this nonsense.
	You know what, let's find out who they are, find out what their job offers are.
	Let's see what happens to those job offers.
	Let's see what happens to those careers.
	There's somebody, you know, there's somebody, I don't know if you saw this news,
	there's some amazing guy who's driving a massive red truck to the homes of the faculty members.
	This is completely illegal, with a massive billboard of the name of the person
	and saying this is an anti-Semite in a big picture.
	If we can do that to members of the KKK and tell the truth, we should do it to anti-Semites.
	We need the most philo-Semitic president back in the White House.
	It's up to us.
	That man is Donald Trump.
	We got some breaking news when it comes to my former boss and your current boss.
	Photographs from our buddies sent to me last night from Larry Elder, who was hanging out with President Trump.
	I think they go to the same tailor now.
	Looks like they're wearing exactly the same suit, exactly the same tie.
	Larry Elder announced he is suspending his campaign and he is endorsing President Trump and he's such a slick character.
	What did he do?
	In the next photograph he had President Trump hold up his new book that we discussed on the show just a few days ago.
	Very smooth of you, Larry, very smooth.
	All right, big news, super exciting.
	Tell us the latest from Camp Mar-a-Lago and the presidential campaign.
	Sebastian, the latest is that President Trump is absolutely destroying.
	He's crushing Rhonda Santamonius.
	He's crushing Nikki Burberry and Hailey.
	And he's up by 10 points on crooked Joe Biden.
	This race is an annihilation, both in the primary and the general.
	And why?
	Because the contrast is so clear.
	Under President Trump, our country was safe.
	Our southern border was safe.
	Our economy was booming.
	And we were energy, not just independent, but dominant.
	And now, as you look around the world, America is not just on its back foot.
	America is in absolute decline because of the Democrats, and this country is realizing really fast that we need President Trump back in office as soon as possible.
	Let me tell you something.
	I'm proud to be here in Las Vegas at the Republican-Jewish coalition, and the sentiment is overwhelming that President Trump is the only one who could save our country and save the world.
	Now, let's talk about that since you're there with our Jewish brethren in Las Vegas.
	Somebody said this to me yesterday in the break of the show, and I just don't know if it's true.
	He said, October the 7th has to be... Look, 92% of Orthodox Jews vote for President Trump.
	They understand it.
	They get it.
	They get who he is and who he loves.
	My friend said October the 7th has to be the final wake-up call for the secular Jewish American who's voted Democrat all their life.
	Are you hearing anything?
	Could this possibly happen?
	Tell us, Boris.
	I am hearing.
	Well, I'll tell you this.
	I'm hearing about secular liberal Jews who are now going out and buying guns because it is unsafe out there.
	It is a scary time.
	And people are realizing, and yes, liberal Jews are realizing, that you can no longer just depend on hope.
	You can no longer depend on, you know, fresh air and think, oh, everything's going to be okay.
	It is an absolute disaster out there for the Jewish people.
	And there's no question that President Trump kept Israel safe, kept the Jewish people safe.
	Remember, President Trump signed a vital executive order against anti-Semitism on campus.
	What is happening now in American campuses would have never happened.
	Under President Trump's watch, it will not happen when President Trump is in office again.
	And yes, Jewish Americans, people all over the world are realizing that October 7th is a direct result of Democrat policies, of Democrats cozying up to Iran.
	President Trump took out Qasem Soleimani.
	And what are the Democrats doing?
	They are again talking about playing football with Iran and getting back into that horrible Iran nuclear deal, which was a disaster.
	And hey, don't forget, Crooked Joe binds six billion dollars to Iran just a few weeks ago, and then they attack right after that.
	Do you think that's a coincidence?
	I've got a bridge up and down the eastern seaboard to sell you.
	Yes, indeed.
	All of these things are connected, whether it's the surrender of Afghanistan, the invasion of Ukraine, or the largest loss of life for our Jewish brethren in the Middle East since the Shoah, since the Holocaust.
	They are all the result of one thing.
	Donald Trump is not the commander-in-chief and Biden, who doesn't love America and actually embraces our enemies, is sadly the current chief executive.
	He must be replaced.
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	The land operations are underway.
	That is up to Israel to execute.
	They will do what needs to be done.
	What can we, sitting 8,000 miles away, do?
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	All right, it's Friday.
	Sadly, perfect timing for our regular guest.
	He is Mr. National Security, Mr. Foreign Policy Senior Counsel to the President of the Heritage Foundation, Colonel Dr. Jim Carafano.
	Jim, we've got a couple of questions I want to run past you from our listeners in the next segment, but let's talk about the breaking news.
	We've been waiting for this for three weeks.
	What is your prognostication?
	What will we see in the next 12 hours coming out of the Middle East?
	Well, you know, the latest reporting I saw is that both the U.S.
	and Israel claim that this is not a sustained ground offensive.
	Shaping operations?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's what it sounds like.
	I mean, again, it goes back to what's the goal?
	I mean, so they said destroy Hamas.
	Nobody really believes that because that's a political, military thing.
	And the notion that you could wipe that out with a military campaign, I think everybody says, well, that's good rhetoric.
	But so what's realistic is To diminish the capacity for Hamas to take major offensive operations in the near term.
	That's an achievable goal.
	Doesn't mean it's not without great risk and destruction and likely civilian casualties, but that can be done and there's a rationale for that, right?
	It creates space for going forward to think that they can't stand up and do this again tomorrow.
	So we're talking about targeting capabilities?
	Right.
	And look, I think one of the things that's going to happen is the Israelis are going to harden the divide between Gaza and Israel.
	And the notion of letting Palestinians come into Israel to work and kind of loosening up on the border, that's not going to happen.
	And people say, well, this is terrible.
	We're not moving forward.
	But the first thing that any Israeli government has to do is protect the people of Israel and the territory of Israel.
	No Israeli government can do anything unless it does those two things first.
	And so I think diminishing military capacity, building a more secure divide between Israel and Gaza, I think that's going to be the prerequisite before anything happens.
	We spoke in the first hour to the war correspondent for Newsmax, Chuck Colton, who's in theater, who's a former Ranger.
	And he said, if they're shaping operations, they're pretty substantial.
	So the last two days, we've seen the massive militarized bulldozers go in, create pathways for the infantry fighting vehicles, for the armored personnel carriers.
	That means they're going to do something that's quite serious.
	Right.
	I mean, something between, I think, you know, Cast Lead, which was 2008, which was a major Israeli grand offensive that went on for weeks, lots of casualties, very deadly.
	So they're not going to want to try to do a prolonged occupation.
	And they're going to want to go in a way in which, because they have a moral responsibility to try to minimize civilian casualties, they even have a greater responsibility to protect the lives of the soldiers that are going in on the ground, and they need to deliver the reduction of capacity, and of course they want to try to retrieve hostages where they can.
	You know lots of military experience and working.
	We call it shaping operations, right?
	Which that is, is to set conditions so that when you decisively put people in harm's way, you're dramatically increasing the odds for success.
	You don't, if you don't have to, you don't jump in and don't know what you're going to be facing.
	You're not tentative like, oh let me throw a grenade and see if anybody shoots back.
	You want to deliberately shape conditions on the ground Which means being able to get your people in, gain access, logistical support, fire support, knowledge of what's going on, and then you do a decisive, deliberate operation, and then you're going to have to back out.
	You mentioned caste-led.
	A lot of the hawks say that caste-led was significant, but it ended prematurely for political reasons.
	They lost the will near the end.
	That seems to be a pattern over time for Israeli administrations.
	Is this going to be different in your estimation?
	Well, okay, so the best you're ever going to accomplish, because you've got almost no capacity to really change the political conditions inside Gaza, is to create Right.
	blanket until they figure out some way like they just did to get by it again.
	And then because the long game is not Hamas, it's not Hezbollah.
	The long game is in Iran. As long as you have Iran fueling the fire.
	So until you deal with the regime in Iran and get them to stop or go away or
	disappear, okay, everything on the ground you do, yeah, it's a temporary solution.
	It's like if you live in New Orleans, you fix the dike so the next time the hurricane comes, your city doesn't get blown away, right?
	Contrary to what climate people believe, we're always going to have hurricanes.
	But we don't always have to have an aggressive Iranian regime that is trying to burn down the entire region to advance its own power and interests, just like Russia, just like China.
	That is the root of the problem.
	And the best thing that America could be doing right now, given the shaping of the battlefield operations?
	Well, one is, I think, obviously you have to give the full support to Israel so they can have successful military operations in the south.
	That means what?
	Intel support?
	Jamming coverage?
	Ammunition.
	And deter, if possible, an invasion in the north.
	And if there is an invasion in the north, I think where the U.S.
	can be enormously contributive is, the Iranians have built a pipeline, logistical line through Syria, that should go away.
	All that should just be destroyed.
	I think we could legitimately do that.
	Are the assaults in Syria, the F-16 strikes in the last 24 hours, is that part of that?
	No, I think that's about force protection.
	Protecting all guys.
	Yeah, that's what the U.S.
	government has said.
	But with a two-carrier strike group in the region, we have more than enough capacity to significantly degrade any Iranian support that tries to go in.
	Remember, we're also not very far from Europe.
	We've got air refueling, so we can bring in lots of assets.
	One aircraft carrier is pretty big with 5,000 people.
	Two is a couple of cities with more firepower than I think MacArthur or Patton ever dreamt of.
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	Right.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	That's the line you got to, you know, The tiptoe.
	Right.
	The fonts were a little cheesy, but red and black and white are the classic eye-catching.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think white lettering is much more readable.
	Yes, that's true.
	And the other thing is, you know, the one image that looked like blurred out military people, it's like, what is that all about?
	No, she said you can't have that one.
	Yeah.
	The other one I liked, but I didn't like the shading on it.
	The rioters.
	Yeah, because it was kind of hard to see.
	It was fuzzy.
	The darker shading on the other picture actually worked really well on that one.
	And if they did that and then they did white lettering, I think it would... Did you tell that to Mike?
	I did.
	Good.
	It's just my opinion.
	Yeah, no, that makes sense.
	But for a mass-market book, you know, it's got to have that... It's got to have a grab.
	Yeah, it's got to have the appeal, right?
	The visual appeal.
	And, you know, the first thing people do when they get a book is they flip it over and they look at the back cover.
	They look at the cover and then they flip it over and look at the back cover.
	And then if they're really discerning, they might read the bent over flap in the middle and then maybe flip and look at a couple of pages.
	It's funny, I was looking at Mark Levin's latest book, no endorsements.
	It's like, I'm Mark Levin, I don't need an endorsement.
	Well, that's true, he doesn't.
	I was looking at my old books and all the people I got to endorse them and it's funny.
	Victor Davis Hanson, Clavin, Pavlich, Levin, Pirro, Judge Pirro.
	You can take all the books I've sold and there'll be plenty of room left on your little tiny bookshelf.
	Second story books the other day.
	I was looking for actually something on the Italian campaign.
	And I was just going through things and there was a copy of one of my books in there.
	And then I went back last week and I was, you know, and it was gone.
	I was like, Hey, somebody bought my book and I used bookstore.
	So look at that.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Quick success.
	Yeah.
	Like one.
	Well, you don't get your royalties on a used book anyway, but whatever.
	It's just the whole, it's just the whole Spreading the knowledge.
	Spreading the knowledge.
	There's Green Valley Books over there.
	I've heard of that.
	It's a publisher's overstock warehouse thing.
	Where is it?
	It's right outside of James Madison.
	Green Valley Books.
	I think that's what it's called.
	It's huge.
	It's all publisher's overstock.
	You know, you get a lot of really cheap books, but of course the reason why they're there is because they didn't sell.
	I just so miss bookstores.
	The amount of leftist political books, though, was shocking.
	It's shocking.
	There's Green Valley Book Fair in Mount Crawford.
	It's a hundred miles away, dude!
	Well, it's in the Shenandoahs.
	I didn't think there was that far.
	It's really nice.
	It's really great though.
	It's so much fun.
	Our dream when we ever retire is to have a used bookstore with...
	...a museum of our own.
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	Okay, um, I guess being a spokesman for Hamas is a tough job because you don't get to say too much.
	This is a Hamas official being asked about what his organization does by the BBC, and the interview didn't last very long.
	Cut three!
	How do you justify killing people as they sleep, you know, families?
	How do you justify killing hundreds of people?
	I want to stop this interview.
	I want to stop this interview.
	Yeah, I guess you can't ask them what they did three weeks ago to innocent victims at a concert in the desert in the kibbutz.
	Grandmothers, children, women who were kidnapped, raped and murdered.
	I guess they don't have patience for explaining that live on air.
	Let's talk about the long game with the man who has the best analysis.
	That's why he's a regular here every Friday.
	Let's start with this interesting question.
	Two callers on the same topic, which is a little bit abstruse but geopolitically very important.
	They said Erdogan.
	Erdogan could be a real problem if things expand.
	One of them said he wouldn't trust him at all.
	He said the Kurds need to be supported.
	How does Erdogan, who some have called a neo-Ottomanist, fit into this conflict?
	Yeah, honestly, I don't think Erdogan's the problem.
	Look, Turkey doesn't have a lot of strategic space to go into.
	They're part of NATO.
	They have to remain part of NATO.
	Their security comes from that.
	They're a problematic member.
	But on the other hand, you know, they've also done great things to help Ukraine.
	They've helped a lot of countries in Eastern Europe.
	They've helped countries in Central Asia.
	So yeah, they have good days and bad days.
	You know, when people talk about that, I go, Nobody ever goes to me and says, Germany, right?
	Like, oh my God, Germany's had some of the most abhorrent foreign policy in modern history, including essentially enabling Putin, but nobody ever says, oh my God, how can we tolerate Germany?
	I think, look, I think the reality is, and we can have a debate on this and that's fine,
	but the reality is, and other countries in the Middle East if you want,
	the reality is, is you fight, if you can, you fight one war at a time, right?
	And you start with the guy that's like the most dangerous.
	So we can have lots of debates about lots of people.
	People can say who their friends are, who they wanna date, which parties they wanna go to.
	But if you're not dealing with Iran, and if that isn't prioritizing over everything,
	then you are missing the boat here, right?
	Because they are the chief destabilizing threat in the region.
	And Ankara and Tehran, the nexus.
	Okay, well, they don't get along either.
	I mean, you know, they're strategic rivals as well.
	But Iran is funding Hamas.
	Iran is funding Hezbollah.
	Iran is funding the Houthis.
	They are trying to destroy Israel.
	They are the ones that want to become a declared nuclear power and upset the balance in the region.
	They are the ones that want to shut off 20% of the world's oil.
	So they are the, if you're not dealing with Iran, you're not dealing with the problem.
	Everybody else is like a footnote.
	And so I don't get this, right?
	You know, everybody wants to pick a fight with somebody, but it's like, dude, it only counts if you pick the fight with a guy that can really do the most damage and you stop them.
	The phrase I like to use is the five-meter target.
	There may be a guy with a tank ten kilometers away, but if there's a guy five feet in front of you with a bayonet on his rifle, you better deal with him first.
	You used the phrase long game.
	What is the long game for this part of the world when it comes to Gaza and the West Bank?
	Can they ever function, really?
	Well, I'll tell you what will never work, which is a two-state solution.
	Right, and I had that debate this morning on C-SPAN with some leftists, but okay, let's create a two-state.
	You and me.
	Seb Gorka and Jim Kiripano.
	Get our Nobel Prizes today.
	We created an independent Palestinian state.
	What do we have?
	We have a state sponsor of terrorism.
	We have a country that's sworn to the destruction of Israel.
	We have a country that is a tool of Iran and is an oppressive, corrupt, thoroughly destructive and exploitive of its own people.
	You know what's really funny?
	The same people that want a two-state solution want us to go out and crush Assad.
	Okay, what I just described was Assad, right?
	You want to create another Syria right next to Israel, right?
	So we could have lots of debates over solutions, but this idea of somehow giving political power to Hamas and the PLA and that that's going to solve your problem, that's like inviting Hannibal Lecter over to cook and being shocked when you discover what's on the menu.
	Do not, this is the sage, strategic advice from our guest.
	Do not invite Dr. Hannibal Lecter over for dinner and especially if he wants to cook.
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	Another tragedy in America, this time in Maine.
	The manhunt is still going on to find that man who had a mental condition, was in a mental institution, who talked about voices in his head and the desire to attack a military base, and yet he was allowed to somehow leave that institution and to kill almost two dozen Americans.
	What is the response?
	From the left, from the institutional left, from the government, here's the Vice President of the United States talking about how she likes a certain model from a certain Antipodean country.
	Cut 11.
	In our country today, the leading cause of death of American children is gun violence.
	Gun violence has terrorized and traumatized so many of our communities in this country and let us be clear it does not have to be this way as our friends in australia have demonstrated yeah disarming that population
	And now there are more illegal guns in Australia than there were before they did the government buyback.
	Which is weird because none of those guns belonged to the government in the first place.
	So how can you buy them back?
	Let's talk to our Second Amendment guest today on a what might seem an abstruse topic, but in fact a foundational one if you understand gun accuracy.
	He is the man behind Grey Bow Custom Stocks.
	We are delighted to have him with us on the show.
	Ryan McMillan, welcome to America First.
	Yeah, thanks for having me Sebastian, I appreciate it.
	So I just want to read the first two sentences of your website, because it rather I just like it.
	I like your sense of humor and the values that you put out there front and center.
	All Grey Bow products are made and manufactured in America by working-class Americans for working-class Americans.
	You'll find we are synonymous with bald eagles, Chuck Norris's beard fresh from Rocky Mountain brood cores, and Ronald freaking Reagan.
	That's quite a way to open a website.
	I love it.
	Tell us, firstly, why rifle stocks?
	Because some people will just say being accurate with a gun, it's about breathing, trigger control, and having the right glass, the right scope.
	But there's a far more foundational issue, isn't there, Ryan?
	Well, rifle stocks, I mean, it's what you touch.
	It's what you feel.
	To me, it's what gives the gun personality.
	It's also the only part of the rifle that is typically not made of some kind of aluminum or steel.
	And especially when you're hunting, you want a material that's lightweight, but also that's going to hold up to the rigors of the environment.
	So it's really important, but in my opinion, rifle stocks are the most important thing about the gun, about a rifle, especially in hunting, whether even competition or other types of applications.
	But to me, the rifle stock is it.
	It's where all the personality is and it's where you get a lot of accuracy comes from and the strength and durability.
	Tell us your background and how you got into this business.
	Well, my background, I was a former Navy SEAL, SEAL Team 2.
	I enlisted in the year 2000, so I was in SEAL training during 9-11, so that was a pretty interesting time.
	The reason why I got into this business, well, my family's been a part of this industry for a long time, well, since before I was born.
	My grandfather really invented the fiberglass stock in 1973.
	A legend in the field.
	I've been told that, yes.
	No, no, no.
	I will say that.
	I'm not related to you.
	I DM'd you on Instagram like a month ago.
	I don't know you from a hole in the wall.
	I just like your Instagram posts.
	And let me just say, your grandfather, a freaking legend in the field.
	I appreciate that.
	And my whole family appreciates that.
	My family's worked hard in this industry for over 50 years now to bring the best rifle stocks and other firearms components to this country.
	And the rest of the world.
	So I'm really proud to be a third generation and to do the best I can to continue in that legacy.
	All right.
	It's Graybow Stocks.
	Gray, G-R-A-Y, B-O-E, graybow.com.
	MacMillan should be a name familiar to anyone who knows about rifle shooting.
	Tell us, we've got like a minute and a half, two minutes left.
	What's different about a Graybow stock?
	Why is it so special and so good?
	Well, traditionally, fiberglass stocks have been very difficult and time-consuming to make, typically a long wait times, those types of things.
	I set out to kind of reinvent the process, reinvent trying to make fiberglass stocks available to what I would call the working class, you know, at a better price, more affordable, more available.
	And that's the difference between Graybo and I would say a traditional composite fiberglass rifle stock.
	Wow that was a pretty that's what we call in DC the 60 second elevator pitch and he did it rather well.
	I'm very impressed follow him he's got a pretty good Instagram game ryan underscore mc underscore millen m-i-l-l-a-n and the website which tells you right up front who they are what their values are and how this is an American company producing American products for True Patriots is greyboe.com.
	That's g-r-a-y-b-o-e.com.
	Keep doing what you do, and we salute the legend that was your father, your grandfather.
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	The main shooter killed most of his victims in a restaurant and a bowling alley.
	Here is a fascinating tweet from an often, you'll hear him often on this show, John Lott from the Crime Research Center.
	This is a picture of the bowling.
	I don't know if we can, can we zoom down?
	Because it's missing the most important part.
	There we go.
	There was a sign on the bowling alley.
	That said, this is a gun-free zone.
	Yeah, I guess the killer didn't read the sign.
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	Nancy, welcome to America First.
	Hi, Dr. G. Hey.
	I'm wondering if you would agree with me that if Israel no longer existed and there was no more common enemy, don't you think that the Sunni and Shiite Muslims would spend the next hundred years slaughtering each other?
	No, they'd try and kill all the Christians first.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	It's what they say.
	Remember, they are the Friday people, right?
	They go to mosque on Friday.
	And what do the Islamists, what do the jihadis say?
	Publicly, Nancy!
	They say, first we come for the Saturday people, and then we come for the Sunday people.
	First they slaughter the Jews, and then they slaughter the Christians.
	If, you know, people don't believe that, read the Quran.
	Educate yourself.
	Start with chapter 9, verse 29.
	The idea that the Sunni and Shia would slaughter each other, no.
	That would be the last thing they do.
	After they destroy Israel, they would try to destroy Christendom.
	That is the priority set they have.
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	Impressive.
	You know, still impressive.
	See things you people wouldn't believe.
	See things you people wouldn't believe.
	I'm a talkative guy.
	you Let's go see him again.
	I'm going to be a good boy.
	Who did it?
	Or who didn't do it in the case of this movie?
	We've been away for a couple of weeks, I've been on the road, but I'm so excited to be back with my good buddy Chris Coles, Mr. Aitken, making movies great again.
	Chris, how the devil are you?
	Oh, I am fantastic.
	I have missed this show, though, I'll tell you that.
	You're not the only one.
	It's like, come on, I want to have fun.
	It's the weekend.
	Let's have fun.
	Let's watch a good movie and let's dissect it from two perspectives that aren't always the same.
	And in this case...
	It is a movie from my childhood, came out when I was three years old, played on TV reruns every flipping year.
	I bought it.
	It's on my iPhone.
	When I want a little bit of nostalgia, I know it's a murder mystery, but when I want to feel good, go back in time, I watch Albert Finney as Hercule Poirot.
	I think you said you hadn't seen it before.
	Your reaction to Sidney Lumet's Murder on the Orient Express.
	Well, I must confess that I am of two minds with regard to this film.
	On the one hand, I'll give you the good of the bad, because you are going to have to try to sell me this movie a little bit.
	I was worried, and I thought there's no need to be worried!
	It's Chris!
	But I was right.
	Well, here's the thing.
	I am of two minds, for real, because, and it's a little bit my own fault, and I'll get into that later, but I didn't really enjoy the movie for the most part.
	Like, for most of watching it, I didn't really enjoy it.
	But let me tell you, one of the most spectacular, coolest, mind-blowing, really just truly remarkable endings of any movie ever in history.
	I mean, it's truly one of the best.
	It totally caught me off guard.
	And, you know, I got to hand it to Agatha Christie.
	What an absolutely brilliant way to conclude the film.
	And I don't know if we want to ruin it for people if there's people out there who haven't seen it.
	I think we have to talk about it because we've got footage that pertains to the end of the movie.
	And I think it's One of the most important parts of the movie.
	But, you know, I kind of gave it away at the beginning.
	It's not a whodunit.
	It's a whodidn't do it, because everybody did it, except for Hercule Poirot, his buddy, and the doctor.
	So every stinking person on the train, including the conductor, is the murderer.
	There's only one victim, but all 12 of them did the killing.
	So I'm so glad that you didn't have any spoilers, you hadn't heard of this before.
	Because when you see the unveiling at the end, You know, eight page long piece of script that Albert Finney had to do basically in one take.
	It's a god punch, isn't it, Chris?
	Yeah.
	Well, I'll tell you what, it's this... I'll explain the ending real quick to everybody who's never seen it, but this is a pretty huge spoiler.
	So, they've set it all up as a whodunit, which For decades there have been these murder mystery books that everybody was used to, and it's always one mystery that needs to be solved, right?
	In the case of Murder on the Orient Express, there's like 12 mysteries that have to be solved.
	And let me tell you this, I don't think it's possible to solve this book.
	If you're reading the book, and I've never read the book either, if you're reading the book, you're watching the film, I don't think as an audience it's possible To solve the mystery.
	So I think people would have been frustrated at the time by that when the book came out.
	However, it is a very satisfying ending in that all the pieces of the puzzle do end up fitting together at the end, because this is a plausible scenario.
	You could imagine a scenario in which there was somebody that so many people hated that they all wanted to have a stab at him Not metaphorically, literally.
	And they all get their opportunity to have a stab at him because they all decided to join up together on this sort of almost like a holiday on this train, drug this man who committed a horrendous crime years before.
	They found out who he is.
	They've all conspired on this train together.
	They drug him so that he can't, you know, he's not aware of what's going on.
	And they each take turns, 12 people stab him in the chest until he's dead.
	Yeah, because, and let's be clear, we don't want to make, you know, light of the act, which is this collective murder, but because of the people who died, the mother, the child, the father committed suicide, the maid, all these people who died because the child was kidnapped and killed.
	They so loved this family.
	They're all related to the family or worked for the family that this is their revenge.
	Because Cassetti, this man traveling on the train, was responsible for that child's death and for the family deaths.
	There's a moment when Albert Finney explains all the people who died as a result of that one child kidnap, which of course, based on the original Lindbergh kidnapping, a wonderful moment from near the end of the movie.
	Let's play that cut.
	I couldn't end.
	Ratched was responsible for five deaths.
	The suicide of the falsely accused maid, the murder of the Armstrong child, the death of Mrs. Armstrong while giving premature birth to a stillborn baby, and the ultimate suicide of Colonel Armstrong in the face of multiple and intolerable bereavement.
	I would have understood his action if, in addition to the DSOMC, he had been awarded the VC, which stands, as you may know, for Victoria Cross and is awarded for valour.
	That's Hercule Poirot, played by Albert Finney, telling Sean Connery that, of course, the suicide of the father is understandable, given the amount of death that Cassetti caused when that child was kidnapped and later killed.
	All right, I'm going to go there, because I need the rest of the hour to fight with you, to arm wrestle with you across the Atlantic.
	Why didn't you like this movie?
	Well, I'll tell you, I'm a kind of a special case.
	This movie ticked a lot of boxes for me the wrong way, right?
	I don't really like 70s films.
	You will want to kill me for that because I know that was a lot of the films in your youth.
	But they used a particular kind of film back then that I feel makes the colors a little bit muddy.
	They used audio recording techniques that I I've never really enjoyed.
	So just generally in the 70s, I don't really like films from the 70s.
	So that's one take against it.
	It's not a huge take, but it's a little take.
	OK, next take is I hate ensemble cast project, especially ensemble cast that are lots of big stars.
	Now, sometimes there's exceptions to this.
	We've seen a couple of films that we loved.
	They occasionally do it right.
	But it's really, really hard to do right.
	That's another take against it, because people tend to vie for the They tend to maybe make their performances a little bit too precious.
	And then the last thing is I don't really like theatrical cinema.
	I don't like musical theater.
	And I don't like things that look like set pieces like they could be on a sound on a on a stage, you know, on a theatrical stage, like they were a stage play as opposed to a screenplay.
	And this script kind of felt like a stage play to me.
	So it sort of ticked three boxes in the wrong way for me.
	But the last bit, the fourth thing that bothered me was my own fault.
	And that's because of modern cinema, modern mysteries, modern films often have endings that are not at all satisfying.
	And I'm looking at all these sort of Disparate clues and saying, OK, this is a red herring.
	That's red herring.
	Maybe this leads to something.
	Maybe it doesn't.
	But we're never given enough information to be able to piece the puzzle pieces together.
	I'm like, there's no way anybody can solve this.
	This mystery.
	So like, what's the point of all this?
	I forgot that historically they cared about making films that were good, right?
	I've been conditioned to believe that you can make a film like this and just have the ending be crap and it's okay.
	I don't know.
	Back then they would have made the ending very good, very satisfying.
	And that's exactly what they did here.
	Blew me away, way beyond my expectations.
	And if I had recognized at the beginning, it's going to resolve itself.
	Trust it.
	Trust the film.
	I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more.
	All right, so what he's really saying, I'm translating Cole's language, Cole's speaking to English.
	He was wrong.
	It was an excellent movie.
	And if you haven't seen it in a while, watch Murder on the Orient Express.
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	It is possible the murder was committed by a woman or by a man and a woman in collaboration.
	From your, um, acquaintanceship with Miss Debenhams, would you have thought that she was, uh, capable physically or emotionally, or... That's a bloody irregular question.
	I know, but I ask it.
	Miss Debenhams is not a woman.
	She's a lady.
	Which precludes her from being a murderess.
	Dammit, the man was a perfect stranger.
	She'd never seen him before.
	You feel warmly in the matter?
	Just the delivery.
	You feel warmly in the matter.
	What an incredible ensemble cast.
	Sean Connery is just one of the great names in the Murder on the Orient Express.
	We're going to dissect that incredible ensemble in a moment, but let's get back to the real world for just 60 seconds.
	We've witnessed in the last three weeks horrors the likes of which we haven't seen since, oh I don't know, September the 11th?
	Or the Holocaust in 1945.
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	All right, so one of the things you said turned you off because of the competing egos you've seen in other ensemble casts is this incredible list of actors, 50% mega movie stars, 50% legends of the stage, which, you know, it's quite interesting that they work together, two very different types of actors.
	So let's just mention a few of them.
	Lauren, Betty Bacall, Jacqueline Bissett, Ingrid Bergman in a role that is like shocking given Casablanca, Sean Connery, John Gielgud, legend, a second only to really to Laurence Olivier in the British theatre, Anthony Perkins of Psycho fame in a rather different role, Albert Finney as the detective,
	And Richard Widmark as the evil Cassetti.
	You have issues with ensemble casts, but I didn't see that which you were afraid of.
	There's no posing or posturing.
	They work together, do they?
	Nobody stands out above the others as showing off, do they?
	No, and I actually do think that's the problem that I have.
	If you have a star as significantly charismatic as Sean Connery, Sean Connery should be the star of the movie, or at least a major character.
	Lauren Bacall...
	Considered one of the greatest actresses in the history of cinema, at least one of the most iconic.
	And her part was sort of minor.
	The actress that actually stood out to me the most was Ingrid Bergman, because it was such a departure from other stuff that I'd seen her in.
	I don't think I'd ever seen her in anything where she was this old.
	And she was such a naturalistic actor.
	There was a few actors that I felt were more naturalistic than the others, including Sean Connery.
	Actually, I thought Sean Connery was excellent in this.
	Sean Connery's an interesting guy.
	He's sort of like a working man.
	You know, you give him the script, you put the role in front of him,
	and he just does it like a bricklayer.
	You know what I mean?
	He just does the work.
	And there's no sort of weakness to it.
	And if you listen to the stories, he expects everybody else to have the same serious attitude.
	Yeah, yeah, and he delivers.
	I mean, every performance he gives is exactly what you want him to present.
	I think some actors try a little bit too hard to change their character.
	And, you know, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
	But Sean Connery tends to be Sean Connery in most things.
	And that's what we want.
	And he delivers every single time from when he was very young and something like Darby O'Gill and the Little People all the way up to like The Rock, which we saw the other week.
	And every single time he's fantastic.
	But Yeah.
	And there was some really funny moments.
	I mean, this is a kind of a comedy, this movie.
	And one thing that was difficult for me a little bit was the accents.
	There were so many accents being put on.
	Sometimes it's hard for me to understand what was being said, hard for me to cop onto the jokes.
	But one joke that I laughed out loud at was when Sean Connery would say, As a way of mocking Perrault who kept saying peep because of his accent instead of the word pipe.
	The peep cleaner!
	The evidence of the peep cleaner!
	Yeah, in Sean Connery's voice in particular, that was very funny.
	Let's just make a few notes here.
	So Bergman, of course, you know, Casablanca, the squeeze, the love interest, plays this kind of mentally backward person who is raising money for the, she says, the little brown babies in Africa.
	Do you know what role they offered her originally?
	No.
	Countess Dragomirov.
	She was going to be the Count.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, really.
	Which has a much bigger role, multiple scenes.
	And she looked at the script and she said to Mamet, I don't want that role.
	I want to play the strange Swedish, you know, mentally impaired woman.
	And the director said, I don't care if you want to play Hercule Poirot.
	You get to play whatever you want.
	And what does she get?
	What does she get?
	She gets the Oscar for supporting actress in that role.
	I did read that after I saw the film and I thought, that makes sense to me.
	Because it was a nuanced role and it was a very, very well played role.
	She did brilliantly.
	And the first choice for Hercule Poirot was none other than Ben Kenobi.
	Alec Guinness was meant to be Poirot.
	He didn't get it.
	They went with Finney, who does remarkably, although a little bit of trivia, he was only 38 years old at the time, which is far too young to play Poirot in the books, in the Christie books.
	As a result, he was... Now, this is dedication.
	Talk about Sean Connery.
	Finney was playing on the stage in the West End.
	Wow.
	while they were making the movie.
	So they would pick him up at like 4 a.m. in an ambulance.
	They would lie him down on the ambulance.
	He would try to sleep on the way to the studio while they were applying the makeup.
	They were aging him as he was sleeping in the ambulance.
	He'd get to L Street Studios where they filmed most of it.
	And then they'd finish the makeup.
	He'd do his acting for the day.
	And then they'd put him back in the ambulance and rush him down to the West End to finish playing
	in the theater that evening.
	That's the level of dedication.
	But it would have been a very different movie, I think, if Alec Guinness had been the little Belgian detective.
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	I love this movie.
	I've got more trivia than I can pack into an hour.
	You need to go and watch it after our review.
	And if you haven't seen it before, tough.
	The spoilers, it's part of our review.
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	Now, one of the issues you may have had, and I don't want to put words into your mouth, Chris, with this movie, is It's hard to put into a box because somebody dies, it's a murder mystery.
	But at the same time, if you listen to Lumet, if you listen to the individual who wrote the music, the stunning music that was completely original, written by Richard Rodney Bennett for the movie, It's lyrical.
	It's lively.
	It's like a waltz.
	There's fun.
	There's glamour.
	The costumes, the costumier was told, don't make these costumes real.
	Look like they came from, you know, the seamstress yesterday and their brand new theatre garments.
	So, there's artifice.
	This isn't meant to be realism.
	And at the end, you have this strange ending where The director said, we can't have Poirot just solve the crime and then walk out of the carriage.
	We want to have every single member of the ensemble cast individually toast Lauren Bacall, the mastermind of the murder, with a flute of champagne.
	So it's a strange, sui generis, fun, lightweight murder mystery!
	Yeah, yeah.
	But you know what's crazy about this film?
	As much as I struggled to enjoy it throughout most of the playing of the film, This is a classic.
	I mean, it is a classic and it's a classic for a reason.
	And you're laying out a lot of really good points.
	And let me just say there are maybe even hundreds of copies of this film.
	There are so many TV shows that spoofed this or tried to copy it or did some kind of play on it.
	Just there is a two movies now that Adam Sandler has done that are on Netflix called Murder Mystery.
	And I just, like, happened upon one of them once.
	It was, like, Murder Mystery 2.
	And I'm like, Murder Mystery 2?
	I never even heard of Murder Mystery 1.
	Like, if they've done a second one, the first one must be pretty good, right?
	So I go and I watch the first one, like, by myself.
	I don't even have a girl with me.
	I just was, like, flipping around on stuff.
	And I watch this movie, and I'm like, this is actually pretty funny.
	You know, it's actually not a bad movie.
	It's a bit of fun.
	But it's totally a copy of this film.
	And then they did a second one, because it was a pretty successful film.
	It's Rachel from Friends and Adam Sandler.
	And they do a great job.
	They're very funny.
	It's a good film.
	If you want to see a movie with your wife or your girlfriend out there, I recommend those movies.
	And is it like, is it a period piece?
	Is it a murder mystery or is it a period murder mystery like this one?
	No, it's a contemporary murder mystery.
	What's really funny is that Jennifer Aniston and Adam Sandler both play sort of like average folks that don't make that much money and they're like impressed by all the wealth and glamour around them.
	And I'm just like, these guys have probably have more money than the people that they're interacting with right now in real life.
	But they're like, oh my gosh, look at this soap.
	It's amazing.
	But they do a good job.
	They pull it off.
	They do well because both of them have that personality where they seem like they could just be ordinary folks.
	So they do a great job, actually.
	Well, this did create so many homages, ripoffs and repeats.
	When they bought the rights from Agatha Christie, who was still alive when this was being made.
	She died soon after its release.
	They bought the rights to two more and Finney was pushed out of the way by Peter Ustinov.
	Again, movies from my childhood.
	Death on the Nile is a classic, but this time it's Peter Ustinov.
	Again, ensemble cast, but yes, they've tried to do this for decades now.
	As far as I'm concerned, this is the best one of the bunch.
	It's Murder on the Orient Express with Albert Finney playing Hercule Poirot.
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	I want to talk about the mastery of the art here.
	Because not only is Sidney Lumet a legend in filmmaking, an individual who made lots of very, very gritty movies, and he deliberately took this movie because he said, I want to do something different.
	I want to challenge myself and do something lighthearted.
	But we have to doff our caps from, you know, the geeky behind the scenes angle to Geoffrey Unsworth.
	Geoffrey Unsworth, the cinematographer, the director of photography, He made this movie the beautiful, you know, artifice that it is.
	This is a man who was responsible for Kubrick's 2001, for Cabaret, and for the original Superman movie by Richard Donner.
	There's such subtlety, especially in the lighting and the camera work, especially when Poirot explains Who the murderers are, and there's flashbacks, repeated flashbacks.
	Here we have Lumet explain how he and Unworth use technology to have an effect on the viewer.
	This is the making of.
	What I did was, for the normal narrative, I just shot them as normal scenes.
	Though I'd sooner have seen him properly tried.
	By jury.
	Trial by 12 good men and troops.
	But then as soon as I finished each one of those scenes, I changed lenses quite radically.
	It's a sound system.
	The visual difference in those lenses is enormous.
	The wide-angle lenses distort space enormously.
	And Jeffrey also relit the scenes.
	And so it was just a completely different technical approach to the exact same subject matter, and I thought it worked well.
	The train was now silent and at peace.
	Silent, yes.
	At peace now.
	Just changing the lenses, filming the same scene twice, one with a regular lens, then filming it again with a squashed lens and different lighting, gives it a completely different emotional quality.
	I know you have issues with 70s movies, but we have to pay credit to the visual expertise of both the director and the director of photography.
	Yeah, I mean, I actually like that kind of experimentation.
	I didn't particularly like this sort of fisheye lens thing that he did.
	I did notice it.
	But at the time, you know, that was something that maybe no one had ever done before.
	It was sort of an interesting visual style.
	You know, now everybody in the world can shoot anything they want with just about any kind of lens type.
	relatively cheaply, so we can all kind of experiment with that kind of stuff.
	But back then, you had to have a lot of money or be connected to one of the studios to be
	able to play around like this.
	And so, yeah, I think what he was doing was really innovative and interesting and trying
	out new things.
	I think that's really smart.
	Not everything has to work for everybody to be effective.
	Like I said, this is a classic, and people do love it.
	So I don't know how much people appreciate what he did there, but you know, the guy, the guy is a master of his craft.
	And I actually think probably everybody involved in this project were, you know, at the top of their game because, you know, as you well know, this was a hugely successful film and it did inspire so many copies and it is considered a great classic.
	And the other thing you can see from the footage here, they didn't do what was common for the last 50 years in these kinds of set pieces.
	They didn't blow out the walls to fit in the cameras.
	They filmed inside a carriage to give it that compressed, paranoid, kind of shut-in feeling that really does work.
	One more thing that I think is quite stunning is the opening segment.
	We've played it before.
	No voices.
	No dialogue at all, but when they're playing the story, explaining the backstory of the Daisy Armstrong kidnapping, it's done with period newspapers, with yellow filters, with snapshots as if it's, you know, journalism from the 30s.
	It's one of the most effective openings, I think, because nobody has to say anything.
	There's not a long log line scroll of what you're looking at.
	It's just powerful imagery that tells you a whole story in just a couple of minutes.
	What do you think of this opening title sequence?
	It is quite creative and they were able to use some of that and bring it back.
	You know, later on, as they were talking about what happened that night, they would bring back bits from that first segment.
	So, yeah, I mean, it was effective.
	It definitely like what was really interesting for me was that I'm looking at all this and I'm instantly recognizing that this is drawn from the Lindbergh baby case.
	Like it's so famous even today, that kidnapping case.
	I mean, I think that the reason why kidnapping is a federal crime today is because of that case, right?
	Like before that, it may have been like state-by-state crime.
	So that was such an enormous case that even today I recognize that this story drew inspiration from that.
	So it was very clear and maybe it was helped by the historical event, but it was definitely a clearly told story really quickly.
	That's definitely something that's difficult sometimes to put in.
	It's very difficult to condense a novel into a film like this.
	Two hours really isn't enough time to tell everybody's story and get all the clues out there and stuff like that.
	But somehow they were able to do it in a way that was reasonably effective, obviously effective enough, so that this film is considered a classic today.
	Yeah, no, that's such an important point.
	I mean, these are massive tomes.
	This is, you know, Agatha Christie's, one of her most famous works.
	To condense all of that into two hours is quite a feat, and they did it.
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	Who do we now have here in this car that could have known or could have been involved with the Armstrong household?
	We have one, Mr. McQueen, who became boyishly devoted to Mrs. Armstrong at the time of the kidnapping.
	Two, the Princess Dragomiroff, who was Mrs. Armstrong's devoted godmother.
	Three, the Countess Andreni, who was Mrs. Armstrong's devoted younger sister.
	Four, the Count Andreni, who was Helena's devoted husband and Mrs. Armstrong's devoted brother-in-law.
	Five, Hildegard Schmidt, who was Mrs. Armstrong's devoted cook.
	Six, Mary Debenham, who was Mrs. Armstrong's devoted secretary.
	About eight pages of dialogue.
	It keeps going and keeps going.
	And he memorized it all.
	It's practically one take.
	Stunning work from Albert Finney.
	They had to do it again and again and again, of course, to get all the different, you know, versions of it stunningly done.
	We are closing our thoughts on the murder on the Orient Express.
	I have one complaint that I will share from one of my favorite movies.
	But for you, Chris, final thoughts on this true ensemble classic?
	Well, I think I figured out why you like this film so much.
	First of all, the Hungarian countess, one of the most strikingly beautiful women ever on screen.
	When she came on the screen, I just thought, holy smokes, wait, who is this?
	Right?
	I don't think I've ever seen her on film before.
	It's always about the Hungarians, Chris.
	It's always about the Hungarians.
	Well, that's what I was about to say.
	I'm pretty sure you like this film because aren't you like a Hungarian count yourself?
	I'm pretty sure that's correct.
	I try and keep that quiet.
	I try and keep that quiet.
	No, it's... Yeah, I think I figured it out.
	That's why you love the film.
	Amongst other things.
	And the fact that Michael York actually sat down with George Mikesh to learn Hungarian accents in London, one of the most famous Hungarian writers, just adds to it.
	So my complaint... Oh, I didn't know that.
	That's amazing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My complaint is Richard Widmark is supposed to play an Italian mafia don called Cassetti.
	He's the most white bread American guy I've ever seen.
	It's like, why is Widmark playing an Italian?
	Makes no sense.
	Anyway.
	It actually only just, it only just occurred to me how he made his money.
	Because he was a little bit like, you know, trying to avoid saying how he made his money.
	He's like, I made it in baby food formula or whatever, baby formula.
	I just, it just occurred to me why he was so... Hey, sometimes I'm a little slow.
	Okay, Seb?
	I'm a little slow sometimes.
	It's the connection.
	It's the connection.
	It's the Skype connection across the Atlantic.
	Alright, we still got quite a few things to discuss.
	A little bit of background.
	Only two of the movies made out of her more than 50 books met with Agatha Christie's approval.
	This is one of them.
	The other was witness for the prosecution.
	She did, however, have a serious issue with this movie in the fact that Albert Finney's moustache is very boring.
	In her books, the Hercule Poirot moustache is described as the most magnificent moustache in Europe.
	If you've seen the Kenneth Branagh Poirot movies, you will get a sense of maybe the kind of thing Agatha was thinking of.
	What else?
	Oh, we always talk about the success of the movie.
	It was a rave success amongst audiences and critics.
	This is shocking.
	For this cast, Chris, this cast, it only cost $1.4 million to make the movie.
	$1.4 million.
	A third of that was the salaries of the actors, and it made a cool $36 million.
	That's quite a return on investment.
	All right, any final thoughts on the movie?
	Let's do the rating.
	Let's do the rating before we pick our next movie.
	I need to know, Chris, I know you're torn on this, but be gentle.
	What do you think?
	I know you rate it from the perspective of a modern audience.
	What do you got?
	How many?
	What shall we give it?
	He's killed with a paper knife.
	So, how many paper knives out of ten do you give Murder on the Orient Express?
	I would give it.
	So the thing is, yeah, like you said, I rate this on how modern audience would appreciate it.
	I do think about our audience would struggle with this film.
	But if you include the ending, which I do think is one of the best in the history of cinema, really, truly, it is.
	It was a spectacular ending.
	I do.
	I will elevate it a little bit and I'll say I'll give it a six six daggers.
	Six daggers.
	All right.
	I think I think you're right.
	You know, after all the franchises and the Fast and Furious and all that garbage, a modern audience would probably have trouble with this.
	I rate it out of the universe of all movies, and I give this like a hundred out of ten.
	So this is this is a ten out of ten for me.
	I love Murder on the Orient Express.
	It is a classic.
	It's just it's just it's the kind of movie that I love.
	All right.
	Chris, what are we going to do next week?
	You know what?
	I struggled with this.
	I don't know if you're gonna like this film.
	Don't!
	You always say that!
	You always say that!
	And it's one I haven't seen since I was probably 10 years old.
	I mean, really, I have not seen this in forever, so I don't even know if I'm gonna like it.
	But it's about a man with a knife.
	And it's called...
	Crocodile Dundee.
	Oh, fun!
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, that's great.
	That's great.
	Bring it back to the 80s.
	Yeah, I think I loved this movie at the time.
	He's such a character, total character.
	He was like everywhere for about 10 years.
	This is a knife, has gone down in history as one of the most famous lines in the movie.
	So yeah, Crocodile Dundee, it is.
	All right, in the meantime... We've been skirting around the 80s for a while now.
	I feel like it's time to bring it back.
	We have.
	I think I commend that choice.
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