Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The KGB tactics of Fani Willis
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Big one.
I'm going to be a little bit more careful.
I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state.
I only need 11,000 votes.
Fellas, I need 11,000 votes.
Give me a break.
That is the actual audio recording of what President Trump said to Secretary of State Raffensperger.
And now that is allegedly a crime.
The President, with 18 others, has been charged with felonies including RICO racketeering and conspiracy last night at almost midnight in Georgia.
Why midnight?
I'll talk about that in a second.
But first, the history of the Democrat Party questioning the results of federal elections is long.
Do you remember Al Gore's hanging chads in Florida?
Was that a crime?
What about leading leftists, including Martin Sheen and his Hollywood buddies, making a video and spreading it across social media, demanding what?
An alternate slate of electors in the Electoral College to reverse the results of the presidential election and so stop my former boss President Trump.
What about Hillary Clinton?
Hillary Clinton is still saying today, dear friends, that the election of 2016 was stolen from her by President Trump and the Russians.
Is she in prison?
Has she been charged with a raft of felonies along with her co-conspirators?
None of them are in prison.
None of them have even been charged.
Why?
Well, because they're Democrats.
And the First Amendment that guarantees freedom of speech seems to apply only to them.
The First Amendment doesn't seem to apply to President Trump or anyone associated with him.
In this latest Soviet-style theater of police state tactics from Georgia, Which of course follows what?
I could spend the next three hours talking about it, but let's just mention an FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago and the arraignments against Donald Trump in New York, Miami and Washington DC.
Was that a week ago?
Wow.
The President and 18 other Americans have been indicted for taking actions that are in fact protected by our Constitution.
While I'm talking, we'll put on the screen for those who are watching some of the actual indictment sections.
I've just chosen three of them, but I'll walk you through some of the charges.
They include that Mark Meadows, the President's Chief of Staff, sent a text asking, quote, Is there a way to speed up Fulton County signature verification?
Act 96.
Speeding up signature verification is now a crime?
Or that somebody else, this is Act 67, someone else sent an email to an unnamed co-conspirator asking them to, quote, touch base with presidential elector nominees.
Touching base is now a felonious activity?
Or how about Act 38, which states that America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, a man who, by the way, put five Mafia dons behind bars as a prosecutor before he became mayor of New York, uh, Rudy retweeted a social media post which asked voters to, quote, call your state senate and house representatives and ask them to sign the petition for a special session.
So, retweeting a request for people to call their representatives is now a crime if you're the former mayor of New York and attorney to the president.
These are felonies if it's a Republican like Rudy Giuliani or anyone associated with a man who collectively, do the math, won 137 million votes from the American people in two national elections.
This despite the fact that the First Amendment of our Republic is unequivocal.
Quote, it states that your rights are protected under the First Amendment.
Rights to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, assembly, and most relevant since last night, the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Let me read that again.
The First Amendment isn't just about the press being idiots, okay?
Or shouting fire in a theatre full of people.
No.
The First Amendment applies to your right, as an American citizen, to petition the government for redress of grievances.
That's why we have a country called America.
Because, you know, King George really wasn't interested in listening to our grievances and redressing them.
President Trump was doing exactly that.
He had grievances.
He believed, as I believed.
As I believe today that the 2020 election was fraught, fraught with problems.
Such as, oh I don't know, Mark Zuckerberg funding privately local election officials, placing ballot harvesting drop boxes in predominantly Democrat districts.
What else was a problem?
Oh!
Pulling suitcases of perfectly packaged quote-unquote votes from their hiding place under a table once the Republican poll workers had left the building.
All of that caught on CCTV footage.
If you haven't seen my friend Dinesh D'Souza's documentary 2000 Mules, you need to.
You can see it right now at SalemNow.com.
All of those actions are crimes, but nobody was charged.
Why?
Because they were committed by Democrats.
President Trump solicited actions to guarantee that the 2020 elections were fair and transparent.
That was his crime.
That's why he was charged at midnight by a radical district attorney, Fannie Willis, who is the daughter of a member of the terrorist entity that was the Black Panthers.
Don't believe me?
Look it up.
It is said that Leventi Beria, the founder of the pre-KGB, the Committee for State Security of the Soviet Union, had a motto.
His motto was, Show me the man, and I will find you the crime.
We have arrived at that point in America.
And the fact that all of these fake felonies were accidentally posted on the Fulton County Court website, then deleted, hours before the secret grand jury even voted on what charges should be brought, means that KGB tactics are here in America.
Can the Republic survive?
I guess we'll know.
After the next election.
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Last night I was on... Eric, how many times was I on Newsmax?
Was it four times or five times in three hours?
It was nuts, right?
It was something around that.
You're in high demand.
Well, yeah, because of what happened, the outrageous things that happened last night.
At the end of the press conference, the RIG press conference, the DA, Fanny Willis, daughter of a Black Panther, thought it was all very funny to bring multiple felony charges against the president, 18 of his associates, and she actually laughed about it, about staying up late.
Cut!
I will now take a very limited number of questions prior to going to sleep.
So bloody hilarious.
That's called the weaponization of the judiciary.
One man who is fighting it in Congress right now.
A man who is famous for pulling out his Sig 9mm live on TV.
We're fond of this individual representing the 17th District of Florida, Congressman Greg Stubbe.
Welcome to America First.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
So, we have so much to discuss with regards to the actual corruption in the White House, but let's talk about your reaction to what we witnessed at about 11.30 last night in Georgia.
Well, disgust, outrage.
It's very frustrating being a member of Congress and obviously not being able to fight against what we have completely seen as the weaponization of the justice system.
Of course, only in Democratic cities because you can't do this in places like Florida or other conservative places because we actually follow the law.
If President Trump wasn't the number one contender to take on Joe Biden next year, none of this
would be happening.
The charges of RICO, I mean, you charge drug traffickers with RICO charges.
You don't charge people who made a phone call, who are trying to ensure that the votes that
are counted are accurate.
And mind you, Georgia changed some of those election laws after that election because
of fraud and abuse because there were absentee ballots that weren't verified that were counted.
And the reason that they did that was because of COVID.
So there was certainly a lot of opportunity to ask questions and ensure the validity of
the integrity of the election.
What is your reaction to those conservatives who, in the last 12 hours, have said, OK, enough's enough.
There are actual criminals in this administration, whether it's Mayorkas aiding and abetting the cartels, whether it's AG Merrick Garland using the FBI as his personal political police against conservatives, whether their pro-life is in Philadelphia or the 45th president.
And they're demanding that Republicans do something, that local sheriffs, attorney generals in Republican states, actually indict real criminals, unlike innocent people like President Trump and Rudy Giuliani.
There's a level of frustration in this country, Congressman, that must be responded to, and a lot of, how shall I say it, eagerness to see the GOP on Capitol Hill get serious.
Well, and that's one of the reasons why, after the a plethora of evidence that we've seen against Joe Biden
and Hunter Biden that I filed the impeachment articles last week, because the evidence is
overwhelming.
And not only do you have financial evidence, but you have corroborating testimony for witnesses,
whistleblowers, business associates of Hunter Biden that Joe Biden was in some of these
meetings.
You have the physical evidence of the financial records.
The evidence is overwhelming that there were a multitude of crimes that were committed.
And of course, nothing has happened to them.
We have a two-tiered justice system now in this country.
One for Democrats that can get away with whatever they want, and another for Conservatives, where they're going to do everything to come up with crimes to charge you with because they don't want you to be successful.
So what has happened?
Because this was in the news that you're going to do it.
Have you filed articles?
And if so, what happens next, Congressman Stubbe?
Yeah, I filed the articles of impeachment.
There was four articles, one for obstruction of justice based on the whistleblower testimonies, one for corruption, bribery, all these different crimes that we now have evidence that were committed.
I filed those on Friday.
The speaker will then refer it to the Judiciary Committee, because that committee under the
Constitution is the one charged with the responsibility of an impeachment inquiry.
And it is my hope that Jim Jordan is the chair and Kevin McCarthy is speaker will start an
impeachment inquiry in the Judiciary Committee and move the process forward, open up the
inquiry and allow us to investigate further these crimes, bring in Hunter Biden and ask
him questions based on all of the evidence that we now have, and then eventually bring
in the president and ask him questions.
We should go through that process and then have a vote on the floor of the House based on all the evidence and see where the membership is as it relates to impeaching President Joe Biden.
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Shouldn't he also be impeached on what he did in Afghanistan?
We're coming up to the second anniversary.
That was dereliction of duty and 13 servicemen and women died as a result, Congressman.
100%.
I also think that Blinken should be impeached and held accountable.
I also think that Milley should be held accountable through the processes.
Obviously, we have a Democrat commander-in-chief, and we can't court-martial him for his dereliction of duty.
But all of those people that were in charge of the atrocities in Afghanistan
should absolutely be held accountable.
Go back to you, Congressman.
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You still hear some of the other candidates making the case, and effectively in some circles, that, hey, listen, I like
Trump policies as much as the next guy, but you don't have to have the chaos and the baggage.
But more and more you're hearing people in the middle of the road who are ready to not vote for Trump saying, wait a second, I'm sympathetic to this guy because they're giving him enough charges to put him away.
I have great respect for Fonny Willis and what she did up there in Georgia.
This is a tour de force.
Jack Smith's indictment was built for speed.
Fonny Willis's was far different.
I mean, his was a tactical strike on MAGA.
Hers was carpet bombing them into smithereens.
It's shock and awe.
indicting 19 people and 98 pages and 41 counts and 161 overt acts.
The court is adjourned.
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Right now, the governor cannot give pardons.
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Right?
You either decide to follow somebody who has convinced you of the justice of their cause or you're a coward.
Well, maybe we can convince them that we have to fight back.
That's a different matter.
Having an idea doesn't convince people to be courageous.
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If you've been listening to this show for any amount of time, you'll know the biggest problem we have in this nation is a lack of courage.
Look at what happened to us under COVID, Stanley.
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Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
I agree with what you just said, what I'm calling I wish every day you could read the First Amendment.
I love hearing it, and the problem with this country is that we took all education of the Constitution, at least here in New York, out of the school systems, and then we got rid of cursive.
So even if you bumped into the original Constitution, you couldn't even read it!
Oh yeah, the nuns tried to teach me to write a nice cursive and they failed.
I love your idea, Ted.
I have a copy here.
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I don't want to bore people.
You know, reading stuff on live radio is not always...
You know, the best broadcast content.
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Alright, whenever we have another assault on the Republic, we want to hear from one of those sagacious individuals to ever serve in the House of Congress.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, nailed it last night.
Cut three, play cut.
That it is Barack Obama who corrupts the Justice Department.
It is Hillary Clinton who routinely breaks the law and gets away with it.
And now we have Joe Biden who's learned.
He's learned from Obama that it doesn't matter what you do, if you're a liberal Democrat you will not be prosecuted.
He learned from Hillary that a person in high public office can get millions and millions of dollars.
And they learned from watching Donald Trump that a true outsider willing to take on the entire system could destroy their entire machine.
So what you're seeing across the country is a desperate, last-ditch effort by a corrupt machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent in a way which not only breaks the Constitution, It destroys the rule of law and establishes a moment of bitterness, which I think will last for a generation or more.
I think this is going to be a horrendous period, and we just need to understand, the people who want to control America and dictate to the rest of us will break any law, lie about any topic, and manipulate the system any way they can, and that includes a lot of the elite news media.
People don't know about Newton before he became Speaker of the House.
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He still gives the odd lecture at National Defense University when he says that bad times are coming ahead because those who have corrupted this nation see a threat in President Trump.
You just need to take that seriously.
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Jessie Jane Duff, what do we do about the news from last night?
Do we say, oh, it's just another one?
You know, they raided his house, they arraigned him in Miami, they arraigned him in D.C., or is this different?
It's time to empower ourselves and realize we are the people.
We are the people that can change what our government is doing to us.
You know, a lot of people throw their hands up and say, well, elections are corrupted.
I would dare them to say, go check out what's going on.
Go to whosecounting.us, which is Cleta Mitchell's website.
She definitely has rallied up the troops, so to speak, throughout the nation, and they have made modifications throughout the country to hold these elections accountable.
There is a lot going on.
I don't like that defeatist attitude many have.
Well, this is too much.
And I know people personally that are on the DeSantis team who were diehard Trump people, but now have decided that this is too much of a distraction.
A distraction my foot!
They're coming after our rights!
Donald Trump is just in their way, as he has famously said repeatedly over and over.
But those who resign to this mindset of, well, it's just too hard, well, guess what?
Marines died on Iwo Jima, and they won their battles.
And to sit back and say, what would our face of our country look like today if our founding fathers, those on D-Day, those who fought in Iwo Jima, those who served this country, all said, well, it's just too hard.
I completely, you know, underwrite everything you just said, but let me take the flip side of it.
Last night, I mean, from DA Willis laughing, laughing at the end, to the charges being leaked eight hours early before the grand jury had voted on what the charges should be, It makes me think that they've kind of, to use a comical phrase, they really have jumped the shark because even if you're not pro-Trump, even if you're not into politics, you go, what?
Do you think the Democrats have Lost touch with what they look like from the outside?
Obviously they've lost touch with a lot of things.
They have gotten so immersed in the corruption that started multiple presidents ago and as each one gets away with it and you named off like Newt Gingrich named off like Hillary Clinton they get away with it.
So I do believe that the Biden family corruption is just really something that they felt they would get away with.
Had he not run for president, the oversight committee would have never found the 21 LLCs and the nine family members and the multiple adversaries that were paying that family off.
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So I would just reach to people and say, this is the moment of truth.
Instead of fearing this, let's run to it, because it's the ultimate opportunity to show exactly what went on.
When you look at the corruption that did go on in Georgia, the multiple ballots that were either cast by people who were out of state, people that had multiple ballots, people that didn't have registered addresses, Cleta Mitchell actually was on that call with President Trump.
And one of the reasons he said, find me the votes, is because he had the list of all of these people that should not have been registered in Georgia by law!
And they basically poo-pooed him off and decided to now say that he doesn't have a right to question when we have evidence of corruption.
Does it mean the entire election was corrupt?
We'll find out.
But he has a belief and evidence that demonstrates... And not only that, he has a right to argue.
He has a right to talk about it!
Even if you're wrong, guess what?
You have a right to be wrong.
Otherwise, we have the policing of thought in America, and we have the utter negation of the First Amendment.
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This is Bill.
Hey Bill, what's your question?
What's your comment?
Well, first of all, it's an honor to talk with you, Dr. Gorka.
I just wanted to say I'm extremely disappointed in my fellow Atlanta residents.
I woke up this morning and I found out that I was a member of a criminal organization, according to them.
Yeah, if you dare question the results of an election, you are a felon.
Yeah, maybe I can become a made man or something, I don't know.
But I decided, until I can determine what effective action I can take as a citizen, or maybe as a group of citizens, I decided I'm flying my flag in front of my house in distress mode.
Yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot, Bill.
I might have to do that myself.
I'm going to ask our guest in studio because, yeah, I think you might be right, Bill.
It's a very serious step to take, but I think that the time may be here.
Thank you, Bill.
Stay on the line.
Let's get Bill a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
Thank you so much.
All right.
30 seconds.
One more segment.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
you Does he want to travel there eventually to survey the damage and meet survivors?
So, obviously, I don't have anything to announce at this time.
Look, we're going to continue to have conversations with the administrator, certainly the governor in Hawaii, on what the opportunities might be, what that may look like for a trip.
But right now, we just don't have anything to share.
Incredible.
I mean, that's the dark side of it all.
Not only are they going after President Trump and anybody who supported or voted for him, but do they care about Americans?
They don't give a crap.
100 people killed in Hawaii?
No.
Let's just ignore it.
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Jesse Jane, we had a caller we took in the break on Rumble and it's a suggestion that I've been kind of battling with myself and he said we should do what a naval ship in distress does and fly the American flag upside down to symbolize that this nation is in a state of distress.
I may do that at home.
What do you think of Mike's suggestion?
Well, like I also said on the break, it's based upon where you live.
I do have where I live, or stay, I should say, at my parents' home.
We're probably one of three American flags within a four or five block radius, which tells you what I'm surrounded by, but that's fine.
I'm going to keep that American flag up and I keep the Marine Corps flag flying.
But if you're in an area where you don't feel like it would compromise your security or safety, because again, I am concerned about people getting very aggressive right now, I think it's a wonderful idea.
And the more neighborhoods that are demonstrating it, it could really send a message and a ripple effect, those elected leaders that are driving through the neighborhoods.
But I would also say to people, don't be frustrated with what's happening.
Look at this as an opportunity to reveal the facts.
Because honestly, would we have known how much corruption had gone on had President Trump just gone off and retired?
Or if he gets defeated in the primary?
This is an opportunity to see factually because there's a thing called discovery and President Trump gets to bring all of the information that he has.
And not only that, allegedly this court case will be televised, so it is a perfect platform.
On the topic of flags, this video popped up on my social media.
It's from a lady from Australia who doesn't get America.
Cut 17.
I'm just gonna say it.
There are too many American flags.
Like, they're on houses, they're on cars, some of them on couch cushions.
Like, I don't know who's making these American flags, but they'd be making a bloody fortune.
I'm like, you're the only country that I know that does this.
The only time I think I've ever seen an Australian flag is on the Harbour Bridge.
Could not tell you what it looks like.
I know it's blue and it's got some stars on it, but I think I could draw the American flag from memory.
I think I could make a bloody sculpture out of it.
That's how many times I've seen it.
It's enough.
Let's pull back on it, okay?
Let's stay humble.
No, we're not humble about the greatest nation on God's green earth.
And you know who reposted that video yesterday?
Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, and told that lady to go home to Australia.
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Uh, can I have a moment?
Can we make sense of what we witnessed last night?
I can't remember a time in history where, you know, the cable networks were alive and twitching until midnight because of some local DA's political shenanigans against a former president.
Quite, quite obscene and especially After Fannie Willis' press conference at the end where she laughed, yes, she laughed about the numerous felony indictments brought against the 45th President of the United States and 18 others, here's a reminder of just how seriously she takes her job.
Cut 15.
I will now take a very limited number of questions prior to going to sleep.
Hilarious, utterly hilarious.
Let's be serious about the matter and unpack what we have learned since the original felony indictments were leaked hours before the grand jury even voted on them with our regular guest, one of your favorites, Lord Conrad Black, the author most recently and of greatest relevance of Donald J. Trump, a president like no other.
Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
Thank you so much, Sebastian.
Have we got to the nadir of politicized judiciary whereby, I mean, it seems like some kind of peculiar pantomime that actually makes fun of Leventi Beria's concept of show me the man and I will find you the crime.
To have the indictments pop up on the court's webpage six hours before they're actually voted on by the secret grand jury, And then to have the District Attorney, the daughter of a member of the Black Panthers, laugh about, you know, having to go to bed.
Could it get any worse?
I don't think it can get much worse, but it has got awfully bad.
I mean, to me, the surreal aspect of this is that the anti-Trump forces are so obsessed That they've taken leave of any objectivity about how completely outrageous and disgraceful and ludicrous their behavior is.
I mean, they announced in advance that the leak machine in Washington is so extensive, you almost need a boat to go through the streets there.
And for months and months, I've been saying that they would fire all four of these indictments out,
I mean, four separate indictments in a great many charges.
And they did it.
I mean, there was no suspense about it, but they did it.
And there is absolutely a brazen lack of interest on the part of the prosecutors
and the prosecutorial establishment that is carrying out the dirty tricks operation
of the Democratic National Committee here.
In the Justice Department, of course, which as we all know is supposed to be impartial.
There is such brazenness that they have no idea.
of how completely corrupt this process is.
They seem to pay no attention to the fact that half the country thinks it's just a political prosecution and a complete debasement and degradation of the criminal justice system, which it is, and which was rotten to begin with, but is now simply disintegrating and in atrophication, in putrefaction.
And they have no knowledge of this.
And yet I was heartened yesterday by polls referred to in the panel on Fox News at six o'clock eastern time by one of the panelists who examines these polls very carefully, that with each of these indictments the public response has become more complacent and uninterested and sort of ho-hum.
I mean, the whole thing isn't working.
It's not moving the needle on the polls, and they're just like the Light Brigade going into the Valley of Death.
I mean, all the Democrats have left is to fire off these spurious indictments of Trump, and the people who do it are completely contemptible.
Smith is a lunatic.
Bragg in New York is a bum.
He's not as good as second-year law students when I was in law school.
the Mar-a-Lago, well, it's a Smith indictment, and this woman in Georgia is just an outrage.
But it's, you know, the whole concept of people being judged by their peers has gone out the
window, of the impartiality of justice gone out the window.
It is now simply an attempt to destroy a political candidate who has the largest following of any
person in the country, politically.
So this point that you just made is so crucial that it doesn't dent the target's popularity, the obverse.
It's true that President Trump's popularity actually increases.
He's now above Biden in some of the polls.
Let's focus on, and I know with the caveat that we are not psychiatrists or psychologists, but what does it speak of that these are some of the conspiracy indictments that this woman, Willis, has brought in Fulton?
So, I'm reading from an amazing article at The Federalist.
I commend it to our viewers and listeners by Tristan Justice.
The title is, How Stupid is the Georgia Anti-Trump Case?
They're Indicting Trump for Tweeting at People to Watch Television.
So, I'll just read two segments of it.
So, Mark Meadows, the President's then Chief of Staff, has been indicted for conspiracy, quote, for the following, and this is actually from the indictment, Meadows sent a text message to u.s congressman scott perry from pennsylvania and stated can you send me the number for the speaker and the leader of the pennsylvania legislature the end of that indictment says this was an overt act in furtherance of conspiracy so asking somebody's phone number then we get to act 22 of the indictment
Well, it's nonsense, but it's been nonsense from the start.
tweeting the following, Lord Black, quote, Georgia hearing now on the OANN network. Amazing.
He tweeted that, Lord Black, and that is deemed proof of conspiracy.
Well, it's nonsense, but it's been nonsense from the start.
I mean, it's a good thing in a way that the New York case was the first one, because
legal commentators were practically unanimous in saying that that charge would not survive pretrial
challenge, that it wasn't – that they're trying to convert a non-felony into a
felony by imputing a motive that was felonious, which is a way of cantilevering the charge out
over a chasm that you're bound to fall into.
And, you know, again, the commentators were virtually unanimous.
I mean, apart from the Trump haters who foam at the mouth and start biting the carpet when the name Trump, the word Trump is uttered, probably even in the middle of a bridge game, they would do it now by reflex.
And I mean, apart from them, all serious commentators, Jonathan Turley and Andy McCarthy, neither of them like Trump politically, but people like that, of that caliber, We're unanimous in saying that the indictment over the January 6th thing was nonsense.
With a lot of rhetorical backdrop in his announcement at his press conference, Jack Smith, the prosecutor, accusing Trump of conspiracy to conduct insurrection and generate violence and so forth.
The actual indictment doesn't say anything about that.
It has nothing to do with that.
It's all nonsense.
What is astounding to me is that it is so dishonest, so amateurish, so implausible, and such an absolute disgrace, a disgrace to the Justice Department, to the entire country, its institutions, its history, its constitution, and the people of the United States.
It's a disgrace to everybody, and they have no consciousness of it.
None.
They actually behave You know, despite the District Attorney in Atlanta's attempt at humor, they actually behave as if they were doing something serious and legitimate and intellectually rigorous and professionally reputable.
And none of that is the case.
And then, of course, we, well, I'm going to play that cut next of how she thinks.
She's going to execute this trial of 19 individuals, most of whom are actually lawyers.
And the point was made by Alan Dershowitz last night that this is an attempt to make it impossible for the president to have legal counsel, to kind of make attorney to the former president an untenable situation.
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Oh, I can't believe this.
Yeah, this is not the circumstances in which I expected to be talking to you.
Nor me, Rachel.
It's always good to talk to you, but honestly, I didn't think that it would be under these circumstances.
Yet another set of indictments.
This is something, this is becoming like a skill set.
Like in the news business, you say like, oh, I've covered Olympics or I've covered a campaign.
Now it's, you know, those of us who've covered four indictments.
Incredible.
Title for Jesse Jane Dove?
Yes, it's up to us, we the people.
Bye.
And play cut 12, please, Eric. 12.
You still hear some of the other candidates making the case, and effectively in some circles, that, hey, listen, I like Trump policies as much as the next guy, but you don't have to have the chaos and the baggage.
But more and more you're hearing people in the middle of the road who are ready to not vote for Trump saying, wait a second, I'm sympathetic to this guy because they're Giving them enough charges to put them away for a thousand years, why is that?
And what do these cases look like?
And when some people dissect them, they don't see as much there there.
All right, I'm going to come in with Hillary.
I'll do the food for the poor read, then I'll tee at Brett Baer, and then we'll go straight to Lord Black.
And Sebastian, who was that, that last guy?
Bret Baier.
Bret Baier on Fox.
Well, you see, that's a very apt comment.
Yeah, that's why I want to play it, because it's basically what you just said.
Yeah, and that woman, I forget her name now, who was on the panel, you know that panel I have?
Yes.
On his newscast last evening at 6.
I just forget her name right now.
She had been scrutinizing the polls and she said that after each one of these things, the public impact was less.
So the cumulative effect is not what the persecutors, i.e.
prosecutors, want.
It's a reverse of it.
Was it a Fox employee or was it a guest like yourself?
No, it was a guest.
That panel of three that they had kicking around the major issues of the day for about five minutes near the end of the 6 o'clock newscast.
It wasn't Kimberley Strassel or Molly Hemingway?
The ones that are on a lot, like Molly and Kimberly and so on, it wasn't them.
It was someone who's... I've only seen her once or twice before, and she's from a... She's from one of those internet papers.
Not the Examiner, but one of the other ones.
Um, can you, Jeff, can you just find that for me and send it to me when you find it so I can watch it?
It was near, you know, it was on about ten minutes to seven eastern time, you know, towards the end of that newscast.
Okay.
And it was the lady with a, young lady with a straight hair on the left.
Got it.
Coming in with cut a lot in.
What was said?
Um, that the attacks aren't working, right?
That it's not affecting his popularity.
They're tapering off too.
Right.
20.
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Oh, I can't believe this.
Yeah, this is not the circumstances in which I expected to be talking to you.
Nor me, Rachel.
It's always good to talk to you, but honestly, I didn't think that it would be under these circumstances.
Yet another set of indictments.
This is something, this is becoming like a skill set.
Like in the news business, you say like, oh, I've covered Olympics or I've covered a campaign.
Now it's, you know, those of us who've covered four indictments.
Yeah, it's also hilarious, isn't it?
Yeah, when the judiciary is weaponized to take out the people you hate with because both you, Hillary Clinton, and Rachel Maddow are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats and you think it's funny that speaks to who you are and what you think of this democratic republic.
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We are back with Lord Conrad Black.
If you haven't heard it, it came across my feed on YouTube.
A fabulous two-hour long biographical interview by none other than Jordan Peterson.
So please look for this interview.
Baron Black of Cross Arbor on your YouTube by Jordan Peterson has a very natty picture of Lord Black in his ceremonial robes.
Maybe we should use that as well when he comes on our show.
Lord Black, you made a very trenchant point about how, whether it's Bragg in New York, whether it's the Miami indictment, the DC indictment a week ago, or the latest, it doesn't seem to be having the desired effect.
On the contrary, it may be having the opposite effect.
This is Bret Baier on Fox yesterday, waiting for the indictment from Georgia.
Cut 12.
You still hear some of the other candidates making the case, and effectively in some circles, that, hey, listen, I like Trump policies as much as the next guy, but you don't have to have the chaos and the baggage.
But more and more you're hearing people in the middle of the road who are ready to not vote for Trump saying, wait a second, I'm sympathetic to this guy because they're Giving them enough charges to put them away for a thousand years, why is that?
And what do these cases look like?
And when some people dissect them, they don't see as much there there.
So, Lord Black, in your latest piece for the New York Sun, you open with this point that I think most people forget.
We have 15 months until now in the next election.
If they carry on like this, President Trump joked about it.
He said, I only need one more indictment and I'll be locked in for the next election as the winner.
Well, now he's got, you know, nine more plus Georgia.
Do they not see the effect this is having politically on the person they wish to defeat?
Apparently not, and I think it's part of the pattern.
They've never seen Trump For what he is.
I mean, they thought he was a joke at first.
They thought he was a complete imposter.
That it was a freak circumstance that he got into the White House.
So he must have colluded with a foreign power or stolen the election somehow.
And so they've spent all of the time since then smearing him and attacking him.
That phony Mueller investigation.
The two fraudulent impeachments.
And now all this nonsense.
And they only cranked up to do this when they saw that, contrary to their hopes and dreams, he hadn't actually planed out as a political force and was making a comeback and threatening to run again, that they, you know, they dredged this up.
And you see, they don't, they never understood the source of Trump's strength.
And the source of his strength is that the system is rotting away.
And a lot of people want to replace it with something that is, you know, small v democratic.
But sensible and new and will root out all the tendencies that cause the country to be misgoverned or inadequately governed.
And that's the reason.
If Biden were a Roosevelt, either Roosevelt, or a JFK, or an LBJ, or even a Clinton, you know, a person who knew what he was doing and was a competent president, they wouldn't be as frightened as they are.
They would have addressed the problem.
The problem is the government is incompetent, and it's been incompetent And increasingly dishonest for a long time.
The country increasingly doesn't like it, and they see this for what it is.
I mean, as Brent Behr said, many people have stylistic or personality aversions to Trump, but they recognize that what he did as president was essentially positive, and what he says is essentially true.
It's bad government, and it's dishonest government.
And it is completely dishonest, unprecedentedly dishonest in the United States, when you have a criminal justice system taken over as a means of attacking your political enemy.
The last time anything like that was done was Thomas Jefferson trying to convict Aaron Burr of treason, and Chief Justice Marshall threw it out.
They say that elections are won in the middle by those who are undecided or the independents.
Others have said that this is the most divided America.
You always bring a historic perspective.
You've written biographies on presidents like Nixon and FDR.
Are we more tribal than we were in the 60s or the 70s, before and after Nixon?
And how do you think the events in Georgia play into how the middle looks at Donald Trump?
Well, I think, I'm not exactly sure of the meaning in this context of tribal.
I think in the 60s, in the Vietnam era, There was a colossal policy difference that grew and grew, and it was really traceable to, in my opinion, I don't want to be flippant, but the mishandling of the war by President Johnson, not that it was an indefensible war, but it wasn't fought well strategically on the ground, and it wasn't fought well tactically, politically at home.
And so you've got this tremendous division in the country.
Nixon got the country over that, and he, you know, as everyone knows, he achieved a withdrawal while retaining a non-communist government in Saigon.
So things could come back together quickly, and with Reagan, the country was feeling well, you know, feeling well, and feeling good about itself, and generally an absence of civil strife.
And what we've had since then is a degeneration of the quality of government.
And then one person stands up and says, this is bunk.
You know, I'm not, we shouldn't have to take this anymore.
It's not adequate government.
And it's such a threat to the bipartisan establishment that's in the post-Reagan era responsible
for that government, that they lock arms to try and destroy this person that they've convinced
themselves is unworthy to govern.
The country won't buy it.
It is a deadly threat to what has been called the Uniparty.
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What is your response to that?
I'm just curious.
Well, I think that's not... I think it's not... I don't think I can say that.
I mean, you and I remember There were riots everywhere in the country all the time.
Bombings!
Bombings!
When Nixon came into office, there were riots all over the place.
Race riots and anti-war riots all around the country.
Lyndon Johnson could not go to any American city without demonstrations that were large and sometimes violent.
And we're not at that point, but it's a different problem.
Yeah.
Wokeness has atrophied a large part of the country.
And the media and the academy are largely in the hands of people when you get right down to it
are very anti-American.
You know, they're self hating Americans.
And that is a real problem, but it's a different problem.
But it'll be solved.
I mean, the fact is, this is becoming something that only the people can solve.
You have one party that has terribly corrupted the system and abused the system to attack its opponents.
And you have another party that, you know, and let's face it, Trump is not in some respects
a flawless candidate, but he is the spokesman for, in my opinion, a
A court of opinion is unstoppable.
But do you think I'm being too fervent about this?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
I mean, look, the point that hit home that you made right at the beginning I think is the point.
That, yes, some of them may be so rabid that they literally want him behind bars in a federal jumpsuit, and that's their Hail Mary plan, but everything they've done to him, you know, these egregious assaults on his rights, haven't dented him.
I mean, this is the remarkable fact.
Well, actually, I think that he's right, isn't he?
I mean, haven't they strengthened him with the public?
Yes!
I mean, people who had no sympathy for him thought he was a loud-mouthed billionaire now do have sympathy for him.
You can say, look, here's a guy, whether I like him or whether he's rich or whatever he is, you know, this guy's been persecuted.
Yeah.
And I don't approve of that.
Correct.
Correct.
Superb.
And by the way, I think Trump is playing it well, too.
Yes.
I think he's not exaggerating his You know, his opposition to what's being done to him.
Incidentally, I can't help saying, I know we're not in the air, but I wish we were, because it is a bit rich to have Hillary Clinton coming in and piously saying to that lunatic Rachel Maddow that she's sorry to be on in such circumstances when the country has been forced to look at the indignity of its former president.
She did a lot.
I mean, I'm not a Hillary basher, but she did a great many more likely indictable things.
Correct.
Thank you, Conrad.
Hypocrisy on top of everything else.
That's what you're getting.
Yeah, but they don't care about that.
They don't care about that.
That's the one thing they're good at.
Thank you, Conrad.
Bye-bye.
Yep. Bye.
Bye.
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Better have it This is not.
This is not justice.
Just because you have a judge?
Just because you have grand juries?
OK, the great one, Mark Levin, former chief of staff in the Department of Justice under
the Reagan administration.
He had something to say about last night as well.
Cut to.
This is not.
This is not justice.
Just because you have a judge, just because you have grand juries, just because you have
a fake media, that doesn't mean things are going right.
Do you know how many countries have voted for tyranny?
People vote for tyranny.
And then it's too late.
They realize what they've done.
Do you know how many dictators have been elected at the ballot box?
And how many people who've challenged them have been called enemies of the state?
And have been thrown in prison?
Do you realize that when this has been the Donald's maximum sentence, it's just purely a prerogative?
We'd be facing a thousand years in prison?
A thousand years?
Do you realize how ridiculous this is?
And how outrageous it is?
Joe Biden going on vacation?
The Attorney General of the United States never opens his big mouth?
You got people who are self-righteously saying how wonderful the system is, nobody's above the law.
Are you kidding me?
This is a grave time in American history.
And Alan, it's not for bananas.
It's full banana.
That's what it is.
And if they can't figure out how to get this to the Supreme Court in time, which is not a slam dunk, and if the Supreme Court won't take it out, at least put all this mischief till after the election, the damage is forever.
This trial, none of them should occur before the election, or they should all be dismissed by the Supreme Court before the election.
That timetable is just out of the question.
Let's go to your calls.
Let's go to Jean, California, line one.
Hi, Dr. Gorka, long-time listener, long, long time first-time caller.
I have a hypothesis on Ron DeSantis.
What do you think of the Murdochs and the Globalists purposefully Lured him to put his hat in the ring to basically decapitate him for a future presidential election.
No, absolute garbage.
Absolute garbage.
Why on earth would they be luring a professional politician into the ring when President Trump is the biggest threat to them?
Why on earth?
I don't understand the logic.
Well, no, the logic is that First of all, nobody would vote for DeSantis over Trump, but they've exposed who he is, so now he has no future at all.
But hang on, D.C.
is filled with rhinos.
Why would they waste their time on one when there's one politician who can destroy them all?
Why?
I don't understand the logic.
There's a lethal threat to the Uniparty in Donald Trump, but instead they're deciding to take out one career politician.
Why?
Why?
To take him out for, ask for 2028.
Not for now.
But I don't understand why?
Why is he a threat to them?
He's a career politician.
I don't understand.
Well, no, he, yes, he has a career.
We know that now, but before he was exposed.
No, I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
I'm sorry.
I don't buy it.
Sorry.
Thank you.
Randy, line two, Knoxville.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
Yeah.
Hey.
Hey, a t-shirt idea real fast.
All of these guys, the Santas, Nikki Haley, all of them lined up with a rhino horn coming out of their forehead on a t-shirt.
That's actually quite good.
If people understood that.
Yeah, that could actually be fun.
I like that.
It just popped in my mind a minute ago.
I wanted to ask you, Dr. Gorka, you're a strategist.
You know all this stuff about Oh, the interview he did with China and then Hugh didn't like it and then Vivek walked it back.
your opinion. I was with your colleague Hugh Hewitt, interviewed Vivek Ramaswamy the other day.
He's talking about sending a couple Ohio class submarines, each one has 150 Tomahawk missiles,
threatening even the mainland of China. Oh, the interview he did with China and then
and then Hugh didn't like it and then Vivek walked it back.
You're talking about that one?
Yes sir, that's the one.
Yeah I like Vivek but you know my problem with Vivek is he's a very good businessman but I'm not sure he's up to speed on grand strategy or you know the politics of communist Beijing so yeah I think he needs to maybe hire somebody to help him like President Trump hired me.
Back in 2015.
Thank you, Randy.
Good question.
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Formerly of the New York Post, now political editor for the conservative juggernaut that is Breitbart.com, Emma Jo Morris.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me.
So the first guest we had on the show was Florida's Congressman Greg Stubbe, who filed articles of impeachment on Friday.
Who knows if anything's going to happen with them.
I like Jim Jordan, but last night he tweeted out after the Georgia indictments, you know, this is an outrage.
And I even, I said, am I going to do this?
Yeah, I did it.
I retweeted it.
I say, yeah, okay, Jim, what are you and your colleagues going to do about it?
So That's the big question.
Let's talk about what's happening with the weaponization of government committee James Comer et al.
We've heard the testimony of Devin Archer.
Not exactly kind of mind-blowing.
I mean he is a sleazebag and of course he wasn't going to give up all the dirty laundry.
What Should happen.
You know best.
You know what's on the laptop.
You know what Hunter did according to that evidence.
Who should be the next witness and who should they get on the stand in Congress?
Should it be Eric Schwerin?
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What would you say to somebody who wanted to get to the truth?
That would be scary, wouldn't it?
It'd be fun!
That should be a pay-per-view and I would subscribe.
Yeah, we're donating the proceeds to vets of the Ukraine war, actually.
Love it.
But yeah, so, you know, first of all, I'm glad to know that you're quote tweeting these guys with the strongly worded tweets.
I mean, you know, Jim Jordan's done great work, you know, and I don't want to knock him because the truth is he's one of the best fighters that there are in Congress.
But it's like, I'm kind of bored of the strongly worded stuff, you know, but I like strongly worded action.
But that being said, so where we are right now, as we're speaking today on August 15th, we have a special counsel that's been appointed to investigate Hunter.
Who is the special counsel?
It's David Weiss.
Who is David Weiss? We just watched him in action over the last, what, like over two years. I mean,
Bill Barr was the one who appointed him to investigate Hunter. And he's come up with
running out the statute of limitations on the Burisma stuff, which is the most serious stuff,
as far as we know. That's what we know allegedly was linked to a bribe,
according to an FBI informant, a $5 million bribe to Joe Biden.
And that's been—the statute of limitations of that has run out, and we're not interested
in FARA violations there.
This is after, by the way, Devin Archer, for all of his sleaziness—and I agree that he
is sleazy—but this is after he said straight up that Hunter Biden was representing Burisma's
interests in the United States and that Burisma would be out of business if it weren't for
the Bidens.
That sounds like a foreign agent to me.
But OK.
So that's one thing we know about David Weiss.
What else do we know?
That after everything that he's looked at, and he's looked at the same things as I have and more, he's found tax violations and a gun crime.
And by the way, the tax violations aren't going to be charged according to the books because apparently the books don't apply in this situation for reasons that have yet to be disclosed.
And also there is like a stack of whistleblowers from the IRS and the FBI who are claiming that He acted totally out of line and wasn't really doing anything according to the manual.
So that's who we have as our special counsel.
And what that's going to do is it's going to prevent Congress from—so listen, Congress is ostensibly subpoenaing documents for a legislative purpose, right?
That's supposed to be the point of these committees, is to basically understand what happens so that we can make sure that we can figure out a way to legislate it away from happening again.
And that's all fine.
Except that now that's going to be limited because there's an active investigation going on, right?
So whatever we could have gotten from Congress is now basically the spigot is going to be turned off because we have the special counsel, David Weiss.
So do you agree with me that it should be Eric Swearing or if we don't have the Senate and the White House, what should be happening?
Hunter!
Like obviously, like I've been saying this for months, subpoena Hunter.
He is the key witness, right?
He is the one, and again, this isn't, I say this and I'll say it a thousand times, this isn't about Hunter.
Hunter is, as far as I can understand from what I've seen in my reporting and reading other people's reporting, Hunter appears to be a bad man.
You know, it's just Hunter who's being shoved out.
Hunter doesn't have any skills.
Obviously, he doesn't have any skills.
I mean, maybe he's a lawyer, but like not even a really good one who's ever really actually seriously practiced.
You know, he has no skills.
He's just shoved out there to be the one signing at the dotted line on behalf of the Biden family.
Who is the head of that family?
It's Joe Biden.
This is all about Joe Biden, you know?
And Hunter is the key witness in understanding under oath what is going on under that hood.
And I think that at this point, given the fact that we have our esteemed special counsel,
that I think that the House needs to, and this is something that I've discussed
with my colleague, Joel Pollack, who's an incredible, brilliant, actual lawyer,
trained at Harvard, who says that like, the House should do an impeachment investigation,
and that will give them the ability to act more like a prosecutor
and less like a legislative information board or whatever.
Yeah, that is what it is.
It's like, oh, let's have another press conference and nothing happens.
And then I'm going to send another letter to the DOJ.
I mean, the DOJ that gave the sweetheart deal with a universal blanket immunity to the President's son.
That DOJ.
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Give me a topic I can ask you on that is what nobody's paying attention to with regards to all of this.
Well, I think that there's a narrative that's like starting.
I mentioned it on Fox, actually on Sunday on Maria, but like David Weiss needs to recuse himself because he has no credibility.
I mean, a fucking gun charge.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
You know, so and after the whistleblowers, it's like this guy has has completely destroyed the faith of the American people.
He has zero credibility.
And there is no way to really put this to rest.
It needs to be somebody else.
From outside the DOJ, obviously.
This guy isn't even outside the DOJ, which is typically what a special counsel is supposed to be.
Even Mueller had been already gone from the Justice Department for a long time.
This guy's currently a U.S.
attorney.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
All right, good.
Any last cuts here?
Yes.
Was the original cut of Levin bad?
Was it spotty because of his connection?
Um, you mean cut 2?
Yeah, was it bad because of the original Fox cut?
I think so, yeah.
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We're back with Breitbart's political editor, Emma Jo Morris, the originator, the person
who gave us the laptop from Hell Story. What is the most important thing that people need
to understand about recent developments and the DOJ that people aren't paying enough attention
to, Emma Jo?
Well, I think that, you know, what needs to happen is this is serious.
And the appointment of the special counsel has potential to totally put a kibosh on any information that we might glean.
The special counsel for Hunter Biden?
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
Sorry.
We get confused about which special counsel we're talking about.
Anyway.
Yeah.
The Hunter Biden special counsel is the thing that's going to put a roadblock for investigation of what happened and the revelations of that to the American people.
So, you know, David Weiss, unfortunately, has no credibility.
You know, he's been at this for two whatever years.
Look how fast Jack Smith finds things.
But somehow David Weiss is spending years on this and all he can muster is a gun charge.
It's obviously insane.
And it's obviously something's untoward about it.
I mean, even his own statements keep shifting when he's asked by Congress in writing letters about what's going on here.
So I think that the dignified and appropriate thing to do at this point would be for him to recuse himself.
The institutions in this country have less than zero trust with the American people.
They have less than zero credibility.
And the patriotic thing to do in order to try to take an inch toward restoring that trust, which is
important, it would be to recuse, because we need somebody from outside the DOJ, from outside
of Washington, really, who can look at the American people in the eye and make
sure we're being straight.
Yeah, I never thought I'd say this to a guest, but my dear girl, you are so naive.
How do you think they care about any credibility?
They don't give a flying fig for credibility.
They just have to do the bidding of the radical party that is the Democrats.
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Next up we have a one-on-one with the man who runs DC for Breitbart.
The one, the only, Matt Boyle.
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Um, what happened was in uh, You know, when we walked away from, when the Patriot Act reopened the bio-weapons armories in 2001, the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bio-weapons, but they were nervous at that time, because if you violate Geneva, the Geneva Convention, it's a hanging offense, and they weren't sure that that
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He's in charge of Washington, D.C.
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Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here.
I don't know if I control Washington, D.C.
I don't know if I would go that far.
From the point of view of conservative news coverage, I think we'll say you are the man.
The point of your conservative news coverage I think will say you are the man.
I'll give that.
Alright, so let's, everybody listens to you every week.
You have incredible articles.
I mean, some of the most in-depth articles, exclusive with President Trump.
So everybody, you need to follow him on Truth Social.
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Of course, Breitbart.com should be bookmarked amongst your favorites.
But for those who, well, we don't get time to talk about your backstory when you're covering the news for us.
So tell us a little bit about your journalistic life.
How it started, where you started, and how you ended up where you are today.
So I kind of bounced around the country when I was in high school and college.
My dad worked for supermarket chains up in the northeast in Boston.
That's where I grew up.
And they got sold to Albertsons and so we moved out to Idaho.
So I started college at Boise State.
That's the first place I ever wrote for a newspaper.
I wrote for the Boise State school newspaper.
I wasn't political.
You knew you wanted to be a journalist when you were a kid?
I kind of did the eeny, meeny, miny, moe when I had to pick a major, and I refused to do business administration.
I was like, anything other than that, and we'll see what we come up with.
It sounded kind of cool, and I started doing it, and I liked it.
So then I did that, I worked at the Boise State newspaper, went there for three semesters, then moved to Minnesota, did a semester at a community college there, then we moved to Florida.
Well, I was in college, so I did my last two years of my undergrad degree at Flagler College in St.
Augustine, Florida, where I live again now.
But there I worked, I was the editor of the school paper and covered all sorts of different things and I was always a pain in the neck to the administration whenever anything would go wrong.
Wrong on campus, I would be all over them on it.
But again, I wasn't very political until after I graduated.
When I graduated was in 2010, which was the Tea Party movement.
And I was originally planning to come up here, and I did start it to DC for a master's degree program at American University in journalism.
It was supposed to be like a 15-month accelerated master's program.
And on my way here, I was calling every single publication, you can think of the Washington Post, New York Times, Politico, Associated Press, anyone that I could try to reach to try to get freelance work to go out there.
I'm like, I'll go cover stuff, I'll do it for free, because I want to buy lines.
Before I was very political, yeah.
And the only place that called me back was this little, just-launched online publication called The Daily Caller.
Which was being run by?
Run by Tucker Carlson, right?
And so Tucker and his team gave me a chance.
I ended up working for them.
And lo and behold, they actually paid me to write stories, which was really cool.
So I went out and covered... The first story I wrote for Daily Caller was I covered a tea party rally in St.
Augustine, Florida, right down the street from my college.
And then I started covering all sorts of different things for them, and it started... I first joined the staff part-time, and then when I got here at American University, I started really questioning a lot of the rest of the media.
I started questioning a lot of the elites in American politics, especially the Obama administration.
We were hearing all sorts of things about how great Obama was and all this stuff, and I was like, none of this is true.
This doesn't add up, right?
And so I started applying common sense to a lot of the nonsense that they were doing.
I ended up deciding to leave the American University master's program in the middle
of it, went full time as a reporter at the Daily Caller, broke a whole time.
Why is that?
Is it because you thought you'd learn more on the job?
Well, I was very much fighting with the professors at American University because they were pushing
all sorts of different leftist stuff.
Their agenda.
This is way before there was a turning point, way before there was massive fights that we're
seeing now in the education world.
But they were pushing a leftist viewpoint in classes and in assignments.
One of the assignments was, America is Islamophobic, explain why.
And I said, you're wrong.
And then I started ripping them apart.
And I did all sorts of different things.
I mean, you know, all sorts of different stories I tried to push and whatnot that they were pushing back on and they were pushing, it was a nasty fight.
Is that what made you conservative?
Because they were trying to pull left-wing propaganda on you?
Yes, that's what really made me question, that combined with what was going on in the Tea Party movement and so, and you were seeing regular people who are standing up and fighting back against a tyrannical
government and we're questioning the powers that be in the media and in politics and in the
government and whatnot.
And I think that I really much identified with those people who were wrongly being accused
of being racist or being anti-Semitic or whatever.
You know, and you used to see it.
One of the storylines that, and this is how I got to know Andrew Breitbart, so one story that I was doing for the Daily Caller in my early days, I remember reporting it out from outside of one of our classrooms at American University.
And I talked to Andrew, this is the first time I talked to him on the phone.
Dude, outside the classroom in America?
With Andrew Breitbart.
With Andrew Breitbart, yeah.
Oh, wow.
And so, it's the first time I ever reached out to him, was there were these left-wing
nutters who were associated with, they didn't actually work for Media Matters, but they
were like associated with Media Matters and like these other Soros funding groups.
They were going out to Tea Party rallies around the country and they'd go ask these people
like these really in-depth, complex, historical or policy questions, and then they would selectively
edit them together, the videos.
To make them look bad.
To make the Tea Partiers look bad.
Instead of accurately representing that these are people concerned about their government.
And so, I wrote this big, long press request out to Andrew Breitbart because I was asking
Talker, who should I get to comment on this because I think that it's bad.
He's like, reach out to this guy named Andrew Breitbart.
I'd never heard of him before.
So I write this big, long comment request and Andrew emails back just his number.
So I call him and I remember that phone call.
That was the first time I ever talked to him.
So when is this?
Is this before the Breitbart verticals or when is this?
I think he had launched Breitbart and all of his websites, right?
But I wasn't fully immersed in this, still, even though I was working part-time for Delacorte.
What was that like?
Because I was in national security at the time for Breitbart, but I never got to meet Andrew.
So what was that like?
It was surreal.
We hit it off from the get-go, because both of us understood Inherently what the other side was doing.
We understood that they were weaponizing information, whether that be videos, whether that be communications, anything they could get their hands on to try to destroy regular people and keep the elites that were currently controlling things.
By the way, in both parties, right?
So the Republicans and the Democrats.
The Democrats obviously worse than the Republicans.
The Republicans were in on it, too.
And they were trying to keep the regular people from regaining a seat of power at the table, which I would argue later they have.
So anyway, Andrew and I really hit it off from the get-go.
We were really good friends.
I didn't actually move over to work for Breitbart until after the 2012 election.
Tucker convinced me to stay.
So what was your beat?
Once you went full-time at Caller, what was your beat?
Anything and everything.
So I used to go after all sorts of different corruption stories.
One of the big storylines I was known for there was Operation Fast and Furious scandal.
So I did hundreds of articles about Eric Holder and the Department of Justice.
So I'm very used to what we're seeing right now with the weaponized Department of Justice
because we saw this, the early days of this, with Eric Holder and then later Loretta Lynch
during the Obama administration.
The, you know, Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, all that we're seeing right now is all a continuation.
Will you remind, because it is a few years ago now, will you remind everybody what Fast
and Furious was?
Yeah, so the Obama administration, ATF and the Justice Department deliberately allowed
a criminal element to buy guns in the United States and then walk them, is what it's called,
into Mexico.
And then they were used in crimes by Mexican drug cartels, including killing a Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry.
And the idea was that they traced them, but they lost track of them.
They were supposedly trying to, they say, so they say, going to let them walk so that they could trace them later if they're using crime so they could see how it works.
But ultimately, the real suspicion of a lot of people was is that, and by the way, we still don't have all the documents.
Barack Obama asserted executive privilege over those documents.
It's the only time in his presidency, I believe, that he did.
and he refused to comply with congressional subpoenas.
To this day, we still do not have all the documents in Operation Fast and Furious Scandal.
However, again, the real suspicion always was is that they were doing this to try to
increase gun crimes that were committed by the criminal element so that they could then
justify doing that.
Some kind of clampdown on guns here in America.
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Grader in the back room.
Ping pong table, right?
It was a lot of fun.
So how did they tempt you away?
How did Andrew get you over to Breitbart?
Well, Andrew had passed away in early 2012, so I didn't actually move over to Breitbart until
December 1st, 2012 was my first day at Breitbart.
So it was right after the 2012 election.
I had been talking to them.
I had been talking to Andrew about it for a long time and then I decided with Tucker that I would have stayed at Daily Caller through the 2012 election and see it through because they had given me my first shot and I really wanted to do that.
But right after the 2012 election, Steve Bannon had taken over Breitbart by then and the two of us started talking.
Had you known him before, do you know Steve?
Yeah, so I had gotten to know Steve, Andrew had actually introduced me to Steve.
So Steve and I had hit it off through Andrew.
And what made you jump?
By the way, great mentors, right?
I had Talker, Steve, Andrew, right?
Like, I've had a lot of great teachers over the years.
So what made you jump from Caller to Breitbart?
Could you see the potential for Breitbart?
Yeah, so I talked to Steve a little bit about it, and we were looking at what happened in the 2012 election when Mitt Romney, a total loser, as President Trump calls him, lost to Barack Obama.
That was an election that shouldn't have been lost, right?
And so we said, we cannot let this ever happen again.
So we set out immediately right afterwards, and that's why I say it was literally the day after the election we started talking.
And it was two weeks, three weeks later, we had our deal made and then December 1st, 2012,
which is like three weeks after the election, three and a half weeks, was my first day at
Breitbart and the first thing we did was we went right after John Boehner.
And so that was the first coup attempt against John Boehner.
This guy's corrupt.
Complete rhino.
And standing in the way of the future of the Republican Party.
Now we didn't get him the first time, right?
So we had to try again two years later.
But we got close, right?
If you remember, there were a bunch of members, Louie Gohmert and a bunch of others.
went down on the floor and they voted for somebody else.
It was something else, right?
And then he survived, but it is what it is.
And so then we called him out over the course of the next two years.
We try again.
January 2015, guess what?
He survived again.
But then a year later, or a little less than a year later, Mark Meadows, who later became
the chief of staff in the White House, went and did it to him in the middle of the year,
where he called the motion to vacate and everything.
And everybody hears about this now.
That's a common term to everybody now, but back then nobody knew what motion to vacate
was.
I think it was the first person to write about a motion to vacate.
And I remember going to Mark Meadows' district in 2015 and we did a whole series of stories
about how he was going to do this.
And then he did.
John Boehner resigned as Speaker of the House.
But again, what we set out to do when I came to Breitbart was we were going to come right after all of these guys.
Both sides.
Doesn't matter.
No sacred cows.
Nobody gets protection.
And we did.
We came after a lot of Republicans, a lot of Democrats.
We exposed a lot of people.
A lot of people are gone now.
And we were setting out to, as we were taking out the bad ones, every opportunity we got we try to get good ones in.
And I think that if you look back over the little more than 10 years now, so it'll be 11 years in December, since this all started.
I think we've done that.
I mean, if you look around the Republican Party, it's a lot stronger and a lot better today.
Well, it's actually more conservative.
I mean, it was an establishment party.
It's not an establishment party.
It's very much a working class party, right?
So I point you no further than I think the crown jewel example is the state of Tennessee.
When Donald Trump came to the White House, the two U.S.
Senators from Tennessee were Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker.
When Donald Trump left the White House, the two U.S.
Senators are who?
Marsha Blackburn and Bill Hagerty.
Bill Hagerty, who was President Trump's ambassador to Japan.
I think night and day improvement there.
And I think that... Now look, not every state have we seen a changeover of two U.S.
Senators.
No, but that's a very powerful indicator that you went from real establishment, non-conservative, milquetoast Senators... Corker literally made the Iran deal.
Right.
To people, I mean, Marsha is only one of two senators I'll let on my show, because she's a citizen politician.
She's not somebody who thinks something is owed to her because she is a senator.
So, let's just doff our caps.
I came over to Breitbart a few years later, thanks to Steve as well, I became the national security editor, and I was told at my first meeting, I think it was the current editor-in-chief, I think it was Alex Marlow who said, It's very easy.
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We're about halfway through and I have so much to ask you about how politics has changed since you started your career and what's happening right now in Iowa and what we've seen last weekend, but let's speak a little bit about Andrew, because I've watched so much footage of him, I've watched how he works, I've seen the documentary.
This guy was different.
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And he understood social media before anybody else did.
Will you talk about his significance as a kind of catalyst between the organic rise of the Tea Party movement and the Trumpism that would come after him?
Yeah, so first off, you mentioned something when you were talking about the book there, Righteous Indignation, that the story of how he became conservative, seeing Clarence Thomas under attack.
There's so many of us, myself included, who that's our similar story, right?
For me, it was the Tea Party, right?
Seeing the Tea Party was under attack.
The wrongly was my catalyst and I think that you're seeing a very similar thing happen
right now with President Trump.
I think when the public sees President Trump being wrongly drug through all of this legal
nonsense you're seeing, I'm hearing it from so many people across the country, people
either coming back to him or coming around.
So this is like a bigger version of what happened to Andrew over Justice Thomas?
Exactly, and I think it's happening on a mass scale across the country right now, yes.
Because they're all watching it and they know that what Jack Smith and Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and the rest of these people and Joe Biden ultimately are doing is wrong.
And so to your question there about Andrew, Andrew understood that this was a war, right?
Like he's famous for hashtag war, right?
And so he understood that this was an information war.
This is not a war fought with guns and bullets and planes and bombs.
This is a war fought with facts.
It's a war fought with information.
And once you understand that this is an information warfare, you have to start understanding who's on whose sides, right?
And there are some really, really great people on the right who are in the trenches with us.
There are even some people, frankly, I would argue, on the populist left who Kind of?
You kind of see it with, like, RFK a little bit, right?
Like, who kind of understand the same kind of a thing.
And RFK's still a Democrat, like, don't get me wrong.
Like, there are things I disagree with.
But they understand the Uniparty.
They understand the Uniparty, and they're challenging it.
And so what I'm getting at here is that once you understand that there is a Uniparty, and that we are in a war here like none other, Then the goal becomes very clear.
What are we trying to do?
We're trying to get the regular guy, the working class guy who brings his lunch pail to work, wears a hard hat, works in a factory or a coal mine.
We want those guys to have a seat at the table.
We want their voices to be heard.
There's an old saying, I grew up in Massachusetts, there's an old saying there that I'd rather be governed by the first 400 names in the Boston phone book.
Than the faculty at Harvard, right?
That's what we're talking about here, right?
We want the first 400 names of the Boston phone book, right?
We don't want the faculty at Harvard.
And that's what's going on here.
The Uniparty is the faculty at Harvard.
And so what we're trying to do is we're trying to break that Uniparty control.
And I'd argue that over the course of the last decade or so, we have, to an extent, right?
They're still there, but they're far less powerful than they used to be, and they're terrified of what we do if we win again.
Well, look at what Paul Ryan is doing on Fox News.
I mean, that shows you.
I mean, he was broken by real Americans.
And the fact that he's attacking the man who has picked up the mantle of the Tea Party movement as a populist, that tells you that, you know, we're winning.
At least, I think we're winning.
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All right, so one last thing that I think we have to mention about Andrew that clearly
comes across when you watch the videos of him.
The thing that probably drove him the most, I think, but you tell me if I'm wrong, is injustice and especially bullies.
He wanted to destroy bullies.
And he saw the Uniparty as bullies.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
No, exactly.
And I mean, if you look at some of the biggest stories that he did, whether it's Acorn, whether it's, you know, there's plenty of other ones.
And then the Anthony Weiner situation, right?
Which was done, the way he dripped that out, masterful.
Right, exactly.
Because everybody denied it, and then he walked them down the path and poof!
Right, exactly.
And so I learned so much from him, because by the way, I mean at the time I was a reporter
at Daily Caller, so I was covering what was happening on that at Daily Caller from that
point and I remember I was on the phone with him, remember the day he went into the press
conference and he took over?
I was on the phone with Andrew that day while he was walking down the street in New York on his way there and I'm like, I'm sitting in the Daily Caller newsroom in downtown D.C.
and I'm like, we're all waiting, watching on the TV at the blank podium waiting for Anthony Weiner to come out and address the scandal because he hasn't done so yet.
And then Andrew calls me and we're talking and I'm like, where are you?
And he's like, I'm in New York.
I'm about to be at a press conference.
Next thing I know he's on TV and he's on the podium.
He took over the thing.
It was unbelievable.
But look, Andrew was a larger than life person.
Totally.
And he was really funny too.
People won't forget that.
Andrew's sense of humor was beyond the average person.
There's no doubt about it.
But the thing that I think he did the most is he inspired so many people.
Look, there are dozens and dozens of people that are currently working at Breitbart,
journalists and editors and reporters.
And there are dozens and dozens, hundreds more that are Breitbart alumni and or people
throughout at other publications that were inspired by Andrew.
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And that's what all of us need to continue to do, I think, is we take that mission forward,
because it is a righteous mission of righteous indignation.
It is the battle plan.
No, it is just.
It is truly just.
The left preaches social justice, but what they do is they indoctrinate to conformity
and the cancellation of those who dare disagree with them.
Our side is about standing up for the vulnerable, for those who've been betrayed, basically
For 60 years by the Uniparty, and that's why he was so successful and Breitbart is today.
The job isn't finished, however, because the Uniparty representatives still think they're going to get a seat at the table, especially during the primaries.
Here's a little interesting clip from Iowa this weekend where the governor of Florida didn't quite get the reception he expected.
We want Trump!
Now that's the man who wants to be the candidate.
I can't remember.
I've only lived in America since, what, 15 years?
I can't remember, on the Republican side, that level of love for one candidate over everybody else.
Isn't that fascinating?
Well, yeah, and the reason why they like him is he's their voice.
He's their champion, right?
Like, he's the guy who's gonna go in there and take the slings and arrows for them.
To make sure that they have a seat at the table.
Now, again, like, I look back at the Trump administration, the first term.
You look at the various policies.
He got a lot done, right?
Like, but, you know, they didn't get everything done, right?
Like, there's a lot more that we want to get done.
But the fact is, is that it was the first time, in my lifetime at least, and you hear from a lot of other conservatives out there that are a little older than me, that it was the first time since Reagan that we really have had somebody in the White House that is our person.
That's our voice that gives us a seat at the table.
And that's all that we want.
We just want to be in the room.
Isn't it interesting that it's a kind of redo to a certain extent of what Reagan did?
Because Reagan also attracted the working class Democrats.
And we—I mean, the irony is, the left, the Democrats, are now the bicoastal elites, the
They don't give a damn, really, about minorities or the poor.
And the billionaire from Queens, he's the guy who's popular with the working class in the Iowa State Fair.
Because he's kind of like anything but a billionaire, right?
He eats McDonald's, right?
He loves some Mickey D's, right?
I mean, you know, it's just kind of his thing, right?
Like, he's not... Yeah, he's got the money, and yeah, he's got the history and the connections and whatnot, but he never really was one of that.
He was always kind of one of us who accidentally ended up in that universe.
And, you know, I think that's why he is where he is.
I mean, I think that he's in a great position to win the White House back, not just the primary.
I mean, the primary is a lock-in, right?
I mean, pretty much.
Yeah, I can't see.
I mean, it would take a drastic, historic, never-before-seen type of a situation for this to not go his way in the primary.
And if he does, and then if he wins, and has four more years, I mean, there's so much work we have to do to, you know, drain the swamp of the corruption.
But if that happens, would you say it's safe to say that the Republican Party is America first and MAGA?
It's like done?
It's no longer?
I think so.
I think that fight will have been complete.
And by the way, I would point you no further than Barack Obama.
There are several reports that he has been warning Joe Biden about Donald Trump's resiliency and his popularity.
And you buy those reports?
A hundred percent.
So, a hundred percent.
Barack Obama is, he's fake, don't get me wrong, right?
And yes, he's extreme, in the extreme, but he's also very smart.
And he deeply, by the way, he's a regular Breitbart reader, from what I understand.
Oh, that's interesting.
He likes to read the other side.
He wants to see what we're saying.
We did a big story the other day where we had an interview with Barack Obama's brother Malik, who's a big Trump supporter and Republican.
He had a MAGA hat on, right?
Yeah, and he had an F. Biden hat on.
And he said he's all in for Donald Trump in 2024.
But that was just trolling Barack Obama.
The point is, Barack Obama understands, doesn't underestimate, don't underestimate the other side.
And he understands that Donald Trump is extremely popular.
And I think that there's some establishment Democrats who are maybe asleep at the switch right now.
Oh, I dearly hope so.
I really hope so.
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know one of our good friends better.
Let's leave with some advice for those who are listening, because you're talking to about three and a half million people.
Amongst them, I'm sure there are lots of young people who are thinking, hey, I could be Matt Boyle.
So you've been there.
You've been very successful in your field, from high school all the way up to, you know, Washington bureau chief of Breitbart.
What advice would you give?
Because you walked away from journalism grad school, so what kinds of things would you say are more important than getting a nice piece of paper?
Yeah, well look, first off, all those classmates I was with at American University, a lot of them work at places like the Washington Post and CNN and other places now.
I could have went that pathway too.
And I decided that I was wrong.
And when I did it, there wasn't a career path.
It didn't exist in the right, in conservative media.
There does exist that now.
And it's growing more and more.
So if people want to be a conservative journalist, they want to work at a place like Breitbart, or your show, or other places, my advice would be, first off, get out there and practice as much as possible.
Right?
That's what I did.
I did as many stories as I could.
I got as published as many places as I could.
I literally worked for a local newspaper in Florida when I was between my junior and senior year on Sanford Florida for free for eight weeks or ten weeks or something like that.
Just to get the experience and get the bylines and learn how to do it and learn how to report stories and write stories and chase them down from beginning to end.
I covered everything from the local daily police beat to the deep endive corruption stuff in the city.
And believe me, the city manager was not happy with me.
He was happy to see me go back to college for my last year.
But the point is, get as much experience as possible.
Learn how to do it.
And then, go to stuff.
Go to events.
And then, also, don't be afraid to reach out to people.
Reach out to me.
Reach out to you.
Reach out to anybody.
And ask for advice.
Be persistent.
Because sometimes, if the person is a little busy, because I tend to get a little busy sometimes, I get people calling me a lot.
From all around here in this swampy nonsense universe here in Washington, follow up with me again and keep bugging the heck out of all of us until one of us answers you and gives you some kind of a shot, right?
And I think that that would be... That's what I did.
I literally called every single frickin' place I could until one of them finally answered.
And that was a daily caller.
I got my shot there.
And be persistent.
And are you optimistic when you look at conservative journalism versus fake news?
Yes, I think that we are currently breaking the establishment media like none other before and the new media outlets are growing.
Part of that's thanks in large part to social media.
You were mentioning Andrew being engaged on Twitter.
I think that Twitter now is getting a little bit better under Elon Musk, though I'm still
not all the way there yet.
I'm on True Social because I trust Trump on that regard.
But the point is that those various new media platforms and the internet is just fantastic,
right?
Because it democratizes, really democratizes, not the left's version of democratizing, but
the real democratization of anybody can go out there and break a story now.
And you can have a million ways you can put it out there.
The good guys are breaking the news, which is such a very, I don't know if you did that
on purpose, such a slick segue to his boss's book, which is called Breaking the News by
Andrew Marlow.
Alex Marlowe, another superb book, so recommendations for you.
A little bit of homework, guys!
Breaking the News by Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart, and also the one, the only, the late, great Andrew Breitbart's book, Righteous Indignation.
You've been listening to America First, one-on-one with our good buddy Matt Boyle.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, keep your head on the swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up,