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Sept. 29, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Should Dr. G run the Hunter Biden investigation in Congress?
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Yes, you are listening to America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump and member to this current day, because Biden's too much of a cow to get rid of me, of the National Security Education Board of the Pentagon.
Crazy day yesterday, before and after the show.
After the show, we had dinner with the Polish ambassador.
We'll be talking about the latest updates on the bombing, the sabotage of the Russian pipeline.
Before the show, I made a little bit of news.
Hey, Mr. G, you like it when I make the news, right?
It's always a good thing.
It's always a good thing for Mr. G. We had lunch on Capitol Hill with that firebrand Matt Gaetz, and afterwards a little story leaked about perhaps your host being a lead counsel or special investigator for the Hunter Biden committee after the midterms.
We shall see.
It's up to the GOP, but The Democrats did rather look worried when I walked into the members dining room on Capitol Hill.
We'll give all of the details and so much more on the show today.
Three hours, an amazing three hours, but no monologue to open because we've got a far more important thing.
It is great when your wife says she listened to the show.
It's also superb when one of your fellow colleagues does that.
And when I get texts from a certain founder of a certain organization called Turning Point saying, great show today, Seb, makes me feel all warm inside.
And he's with us right now.
Charlie Kirk, welcome aboard.
I mean it, Seb.
You know, after our show here, I'm driving home and just trying to get my thoughts together.
And I listen on the great AM 960.
Really, really great station out in Arizona.
And you do a great job, always fast-paced, I like it.
That's very, very kind.
Okay, so we would love to have you on the show every week.
You're so incredibly busy.
If you pass on, God forbid, I want your frequent flyer, Miles, because this is a man on a mission across the country, founder of Turning Point USA.
You just had, what, your 8th or 9th anniversary?
Yeah, a 10th actually.
It's been our 10th anniversary.
Yeah, I visited all 48 contiguous two times.
Unbelievable.
40 of them five times and then all 50 I've done as well, if you count Alaska and Hawaii.
So to give you an idea, I did all 48 once and I did it again in 18 months. - Unbelievable.
It is along with my other colleague Dennis Prager's, PragerU, one of the most important organizations in America fighting to take back the Republic.
I say this from the bottom of my heart.
Listen, we've got three million listeners.
If you're not supporting Turning Point USA, you're not serious about saving America.
So, Turning Point USA, you've got to give.
It's such an important organization.
However, you're on the show right now because my big bosses have said Charlie's doing something very, very special.
It's called the Border Battle Series.
Tell our millions of listeners what you're doing now.
Yeah, and it's a great partnership with Salem.
So this is actually our first interview about it, Seb, so it's really great.
And it's not out yet, but it will be out at SalemNow.com.
And this was months of work.
I kind of chimed in on that feed of all of us together, that thread of all of us together.
So we live in Arizona, and we see the border casualties every day, from the drugs to the crime, the homelessness.
And I said, why aren't we telling this story?
The media is not telling it.
And it's a deeper story than just, oh, look at all these people coming across the border.
That's powerful imagery.
There's so much behind this though, Seb, from how the cartels work in conjunction with local authorities that are bought off and paid for.
How local farmers are bought off by the cartels.
How the fentanyl really is the kind of cash cow that keeps this going because it's so lethal and there's such a high demand for fentanyl now.
In suburban America across the country, which is really sad and tragic and awful.
We're seeing it in the death count.
So we put all these pieces together.
When we were first storyboarding this, we said, what is the story we want to tell?
And the story we wanted to tell is how the southern border impacts every American, every community in every state is a border state.
So we embedded ourselves with Border Patrol with Sheriff Mark Lamb.
We got firsthand footage that nobody else has got.
We have whistleblowers coming out and saying how They have been told not to enforce the border over the last 18 months.
Just shocking stuff, right?
It's a multi-part series.
We're going to do it exclusively with Salem at SalemNow.com.
Our amazing Turning Point USA team is doing so much stuff.
But honestly, I was looking around and I said, I don't think anyone's telling the story.
And so we said, hey, we raised a little money for it.
We put a lot of resources behind it.
It's high, high quality.
It's beautiful in the sense as it's not going to put you to sleep.
It's not just someone talking the whole time.
It's front lines.
And so, for all your listeners that already have memberships at SalemNow.com, that will drop, I think, on October 7th, but this is a good preview of it to get people ready for it.
So, we had Sheriff Lam in studio just a few days ago, and we had exactly the same idea.
We grabbed a camera about a year ago.
We went down to the border at his invitation.
We just spent a day there.
And it was horrific.
I mean, wherever we went, we got out of the patrol car and there was detritus, there was spore, there was signs of mass human trafficking everywhere.
Tell our listeners what shocked you the most when you went down to Pinal County.
Yeah, I mean, I've been all over the border from Yuma to Pinal County to Nihalus.
What shocked me the most is how easy it could be solved and how unwilling we are to currently solve it.
That's been the big shock.
And so I've done multiple visits to the border.
I did it under the prior administration as well, under the Trump administration, and it was bad, no doubt.
It was not where it should be.
This is back in 18, right?
But it's so much worse now.
In fact, I made that now viral video.
It's been seen like 60 million times where I went to one crossing and you could just go across if you choose, right?
Like you could go with a backpack on your back, you can go right to the Mexican Southern, you know, Southern Mexican border and do this.
And now it's just, it's a complete and total, it's even worse.
In fact, what's so bad about it, it's as if our authorities want it to happen.
Um, and so I'm, I'm trying to educate as many people.
This is a, this is a project of education.
People think they know what's happening on the Southern border.
It's more than just wages.
It's more than labor.
I believe it's a deliberate calculated invasion from the people who hate us most to just get Drugs, crime, guns, and a lot of different criminals that are now embedded in our country that unfortunately it's like a ticking time bomb, right?
So they basically have these little time bombs that are going to detonate over the next couple years and decades of criminals that should not be in our country that unfortunately Americans will die, they'll get raped, they'll get robbed because we allowed our southern border to be wide open.
Alright, it's called Border Battle.
It's a series of films.
You've got to see it at SalemNow.com.
It's going to be launched imminently.
This is the first interview.
God willing, I will be working with Charlie on another film project about manhood.
We have one of your faith ambassadors on our show tomorrow, the great Pastor John Amachukwu, to talk about the war on manhood.
Love, Pastor John.
I know you're going to be having an event soon, so that's all to karma, but now it's the border battle.
Last question for you.
Give a little bit of, look, you are indefatigable.
You're one of the smartest guys I know.
You're on a mission.
What do you say to those listening right now who see what's happened to their children in school, in college, come home brainwashed, indoctrinated?
Why should the listeners of this show, the parents, the grandparents, not give up on the greatest nation on God's earth, Charlie?
Well, we have no choice, right?
And so, look, we're up against huge odds, but we're already seeing the trend, I think, go in the right direction.
And we're seeing it already in the last five years.
The amount of young people identify as liberal is down 10 points.
10 points!
Wow!
And that's liberal worldview, and I'll send you the study after this.
Now, the amount of people that identify as conservative, up one point.
But hey, that's minus 10 for them, up one.
This is not even political.
This is worldview.
And a worldview is the filter of which you process all information daily.
Do you believe in the natural law?
Do you believe that human beings should be restrained when it comes to power?
You know, a worldview is a very important way to be able to understand whether or not someone is going to align with you when it really matters most.
But look, I think there's so much more fight left in the American people.
I think we're massively underestimating them at times.
And I think the forces of darkness are soon going to be scattered into confusion, whether it be the intelligence agencies that are lying to us here domestically or whether it be our financial institutions.
I think the virus of wokeism operates, opens up an opportunity for us to be able to challenge them in considerable ways.
But the final thing I'll say is this, is we have truth on our side, not lies.
We know that.
And if you have truth without courage, then that truth will just die as a whisper in the corner.
So we need to pair that truth with courage.
And that's why courage is the ultimate virtue.
And I think that courage is spreading very quickly right now.
I really do.
It is the virtue that makes all other virtues possible.
Read this man's work.
The latest is The College Scam.
Before that, it was The MAGA Doctrine.
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We'll be back with my take on what happened to that Russian pipeline.
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All righty.
Mic's back on.
Alex, there we go.
Without courage, truth dies as a whisper in the corner.
We got some great zingers today.
All right.
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Been a while since we got them on.
Turn the mics off real fast.
Mic's off. Mic's off.
Mic's off.
It's real.
Mic's are back up.
Yep, mic's back on.
One minute.
Camera back on.
Let's see.
Guess it's Harvey once more.
45 seconds.
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I talk to you, I play your video clips, but let's listen to one of the men, let's just call him Sam, who went through the program, this faith-based program at Mighty Oaks that is trying to help those struggling with the demons they bring home from those war zones.
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Okay, so let's go into the fun I had yesterday on Capitol Hill.
It's already a story.
It's in the press.
The Washington Examiner had it.
Allegedly, Politico is sniffing around Matt Gaetz's office as well.
Photographs were taken when we came out of the members dining room in the Congressional building at the top of the very fancy stairs there right under the cupola.
Why was I there?
Well, because Matt Gaetz is a troublemaker.
He is a patriot.
He is totally America First.
And he understands the following.
After the midterm elections, there will be an expectation that the Republican Party gets serious.
Not business as usual.
Not the, let's treat the Democrats as a normal party, but get to the bottom of the corruption that is rife across this nation, and especially in the White House.
What will that entail?
It will entail a show of political force.
It will entail, as Matt Gaetz has said on my radio show, making every committee of Congress an investigatory committee with subpoena power to get to the bottom of the corruption and the extremism.
Whether it's funding prosecutors that are pro-criminal, whether it's impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas, who has undermined the security of America by his open border policies as the Secretary of Homeland Security.
Whether most importantly of all, and here's the real issue, whether we have a commander-in-chief who is vulnerable to blackmail by our enemies or who is potentially profiting from criminalization.
Colluding with our enemies.
Hunter Biden's laptop is not in denial.
It is a fact.
The fact that his lawyers wanted those laptops back proves to you that they are his.
We need answers to the questions as to what happened with all the money he received from interests connected with the communist regime in China, with the CFC company.
We need to subpoena his business partners at Rosemont Seneca, such as Eric Schwerin.
We have to Subpoena individuals like Rob Walker and ask them questions like, what happened to the six million dollars from China that went to the Bidens?
Why were there shared bank accounts between Hunter Biden and Joe Biden who paid for Joe Biden's mortgage in certain crucial years?
And on top of that, why?
Do we have the President of the United States deny he knew anything about his son's business dealings when we have now the unclassified records of his meeting dozens, dozens of his son's business partners.
And I don't mean American business partners, I mean business partners from Russia, Central Asia and China.
At the end of the day, this is an issue that affects national security, not just criminal activity, such as wire fraud.
It concerns national security.
China is at war with us, whether it's the unrestricted warfare strategy to take America down and to become the only hegemonic power in the world, Whether it is the One Belt One Road initiative used to intimidate our friends, our allies, our partners in Asia and across the world, China is at war with us.
The figures for just fentanyl overdoses alone tells you that they are at war.
More than 100,000 dead in the last calendar year from overdoses.
That is almost twice the amount that died in 10 years of the Vietnam War.
That is a form of warfare.
But we have A regime, we have a first family that is in bed with China.
Listen to the audio of Hunter Biden boasting from his laptop that he is in business with the, quote, effing chief spy of communist China.
That's not Sebastian Gorka.
That's not Matt Gaetz.
It's not President Trump, Steve Bannon or anybody else.
It is Hunter Biden's words himself.
What does that mean today?
How does it connect to COVID?
How does it connect to China's exploitation of disease, of financial information, of blackmail?
We still don't know the connection of Eric Swalwell, that Chinese intelligence agent, and to the actual deeper plans of China in America.
That is why I said yes to Matt Gaetz.
I would be honored to support any GOP effort because they need to get serious and they need to investigate and have a special commission, a special congressional committee to investigate both the criminal The RICO and the national security aspects of Hunter Biden's corruption and the corruption of the Biden crime cartel family.
Give us your take.
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Alright, Mike's on out.
Okay.
Good stuff.
Yes.
I always wonder what that's like when I get all serious and look at the camera whether that's good, good programming.
I like to think so, yeah.
The words do all the talking.
Mm-hmm.
1B. Okay.
And what do you want to call that video?
Investigating Hunter Biden after the midterms.
yeah three minutes Do we have any information on the cornerstone?
Yeah, it just got sent.
I'm going to print it once this gets started.
Okay.
Can you show me expression two in preview, please, Guy?
Amen.
Thank you.
And you want me to print the article that we gave him?
It was about the housing recession.
No, that's fine.
So what did you find on social media?
No fender bender is what?
Let me see.
- What are we doing here?
Patriot Mobile.
Let's come in with something.
Maybe one of the DeSantis cuts?
You hinted at it earlier.
No, I'd have to tee that up.
Um, um,
The End
The End Link to human-caused climate change.
That's that mental midget, Mika Brzezinski.
Hey, Mr. G, it says here, research shows, is the phrase Mika used.
Why did you edit out the part of the clip where she told us what research proves it?
Because she didn't have any research before that part.
What?
Nope.
She just kind of just said that?
Like, research shows?
No, the first thing that she said before that, she was really smart about this point.
The reason you have so many hurricanes in Florida, she said, is because of its geographical location.
Because it sticks out in the middle of the ocean, in the south.
Okay, great.
I guess we should move Florida, right?
Mika, what do you think, Mr. G?
Should we move Florida?
Why not?
If you can control the weather, you can move some stuff around.
Yeah, we're gonna control the weather.
It's so embarrassing.
I know this guy.
He's a former admiral and he is the epitome of the politically correct military officer.
He was actually the former SACEUR, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe.
He's a little bitty guy, a little bitty admiral.
He's called Stavridis, James Stavridis.
And now I guess he wants a gig on CNN.
This is a military professional retired's take on what happens in Florida now and again.
Play the cut.
Cut four.
Governor DeSantis and his team are working off a script that's been honed for a century.
And we're pretty good at this, but at the end of the day, when you see one of these massive storms come in, and you know more are coming, you know we're going to be dealing with this as a nation, going into the future, if we can't get climate under control.
He sounds like Obama.
Climate under control.
I thought I had a pretty big ego.
Hey, Eric, what do you think of people saying that they can control the climate?
I thought gods can do that, like Greek gods can do that.
Well, also, I thought it was a conspiracy theory that, like, the government is controlling the weather, you know, to target conservatives with chemtrails or something like that.
Yeah, well, no, it's the left.
The left actually believes that we can control the weather.
Stavridis, you're pathetic.
You're a joke.
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Let's go to Alex in Brooklyn.
Alex, welcome to America First.
Hey, Sebastian, thanks for taking the call about the climate change situation, you know, shenanigans.
Not only are the Democrats actually able to control, you know, the climate, but they're actually making it worse.
And that's the only thing that they're doing.
They're giving power to Iran, they're giving, they're going to give Iran the ability to have nuclear weapons, and I think that's going to hurt the environment more than any of these, you know, more than... You think Iran dropping a nuke on Israel is going to be bad for the environment?
I tend to agree.
Yes.
Thank you very much, Alex.
Let's go to our good buddy, Leonardo.
It's been a while.
New Jersey.
Hey, Leo.
Hello.
How are you?
I feel so bad.
Am I allowed to call you Leo?
Yes, because law enforcement officer.
I'll go with that.
That's good.
Yes, indeed.
Law enforcement officer, Leo.
All right.
It's been too long.
What brings you to our shores, Leo?
Well, I wanted to congratulate the decade of patriotism from Turning Point USA in their intro.
I wanted to point out what Special Agent Derek Maltz also said.
That money that's financing the cartels from the Communist Chinese and also supplying the cartels with the precursor chemicals to make fentanyl.
It's not only an invasion of the southern border, probably with the gotaways over $4 million, and then you have the fentanyl being used as an asymmetrical chemical weapon.
Meanwhile, back at the washing of the money from the fentanyl profits, that's what's being used to buy all of the rural farmland around the military bases in the United States by the communist Chinese cartels.
So, uh, I just wanted to point out that they're doubling down on the profits while Americans are dying.
And the most outrageous aspect of all, Leonardo, is this is a conscious decision.
We had a secure border.
It was down to a trickle under President Trump, especially with the special Title 42 powers we put in there under COVID.
And they decided to open it up.
I mean, they are colluding.
With the cartels, whether it's Alejandro Mayorkas, whether it's the President of the United States, they are aiding and abetting.
And that's a crime.
And that's why they both need to be impeached.
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Thanks.
Alright, so the story's in the rundown, right?
No, it was Monday.
Oh, oh.
Just send me the link.
Two and a half minutes.
Two minutes.
Two minutes.
Ready to kill Monix, Alex?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We're talking about when migration is happening around the world.
A lot of that is also driven by this stuff.
You know, as these places that we've chosen to live, or where people have no choice but to live, become inhospitable, what do people do?
They move.
If it's inside Florida, when you've got to run from that water, you need to move.
You need to move inland.
You need to go inland.
When Katrina happened, people moved.
They went to Houston.
Some of them did not go back.
We're not saying that's going to happen now.
But the reality is that humans, we're literally running from what the climate, from the climate change that we're pretending isn't happening.
But we're physically being moved around the earth because of it.
That's so weird, Joy Reid.
Oh, by the way, who's a homophobe, remember?
She said the FBI was investigating her blog with all the homophobic posts she wrote.
I wonder whatever happened to that FBI research.
Jeff, how many guys, how many interviews do you think we've had in the last year on the border crisis?
Two dozen?
Three dozen?
At least.
Okay.
As any one of our experts, like, you know, real experts who are on the border like Sheriff Lamb, have any of them said the people they speak to are coming here because of the weather?
Not even as a joke as I come up.
Not one time.
I know, that's because she is the joke.
All right, guys, we're going to get to your calls momentarily.
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But we have to talk to an expert about what the Bidens have done to this nation and the economy.
From the interest rates increasing to the latest from the Daily Mail.
I'm just going to read a headline.
House prices could fall by 20 percent.
If the recession is sparked by a ravaged economy, the man we trust to guide us through these perilous times is the president of Cornerstone Real Estate, John Harvey.
Help us, please.
Yes, Dr. Cook, I like that term, Bidenflation.
Yes, by inflation it totally is.
So first, you are in the business of providing secure investments through your Delaware statutory trust system, through the incredible services of tax deferral investment in these grade A properties.
How worried are you by the developments in the last seven days in the real estate market?
Yes, well, you know, of course, it's all based on the Fed rate hikes.
We're seeing interest rates now that the 30-year mortgage rates hit 7.08%, the highest it's been since 2008.
And of course, that has a detrimental effect to housing prices as people just can't afford it.
They can't afford their mortgage payments.
So those prices have to come down.
That's a great question.
Uh likewise, where those interest rates are causing the markets the stock market to be incredibly volatile.
We're seeing that come down to, you know, to 23 30,000 on the Dow, and it's all based on interest rates.
And so you know the housing market.
Uh.
is different than the commercial and multifamily.
I would recommend selling before we switch.
It's a man.
It's the article in the Daily Mail says that your prices would fall about 20% by the mid 2000 and 23.
I would realize those, uh, those gains now if you have a rental property or investment property.
Like you said, Dr Barker bring 100% of those realized gains.
Over into an investment, uh, great Keep step with inflation year in and year out, even beat inflation.
And really, I think it's a time to reconsider your investment portfolio and position it into a type of asset that will really do well in an inflationary environment.
So explain to our listeners why this category of investment, why the DSTs and what these Multifamily homes and commercial properties.
Why these are more secure or why you can weather the storm more easily?
Tell us the special category that you deal with.
Yes.
We're the largest asset class that we deal with is these multifamily.
They're best of class.
Two to five hundred units.
And they're in the suburbs.
You know, it's so hard for young people to buy homes these days.
With the prices, with the stringent underwriting, with the interest rates causing the mortgages just to go sky high, sourcing huge demand, huge demand, Dr. Gorka, for these beautiful multifamily apartment complexes with all the luxury I mean, it is.
It provides a high standard of living for people.
Also a vibrant social community.
The young people.
They just love it.
And we're seeing occupancy at 98% plus rents are growing from 8 to 12% per year the last two years, and there's no end in sight.
So getting into an asset like that where we can raise those rents year in and year out at the end of the whole period.
The sales price will be on the cap rate method, dependent on how far we grow that NOI.
And so there should be some real value built up there over the years.
And that's why we recommend multifamily and why we recommend the DST.
And it's another reason is because it's not correlated to the stock market.
You know, you could buy these kind of assets in a REIT, but with the publicly traded REIT, the value of that REIT is going up and down based on the volatility of the stock market.
These are solid assets.
They're based on the real estate markets.
Yes.
and not the securities market.
And they don't have that same volatility.
And explain why the DST, this Delaware Statutory Trust mechanism, how that defers your taxes?
Yes.
There's a revenue ruling by the IRS 2003-84 that basically says the investment in the DST is a direct investment in real estate.
It qualifies for Section 1031 exchange.
So you can bring 100% of your gains from the sale of your relinquished property into the DST.
And likewise, at the end, you can bring 100% of those gains from the DST into a new real estate investment.
It's absolutely genius.
If you're unfamiliar with what a DST investment is, if you've never heard of this, it's over a hundred years old.
This 1031 exchange system that allows you to defer taxes for as long as you want.
You've got to check out this incredible book that educated me so much on all of these issues.
It's called Modern Real Estate Investing.
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Mike's on.
Okay.
Uh, you wanna see this new cut Geoff just got?
Yeah.
Playback one.
This is a promo I saw last night.
Look at this propaganda.
It's MSNBC.
At Martha's Vineyard, residents embrace migrants with warm meals and new clothes.
Those acts of kindness prove that welcoming migrants is far from a burden, it's an opportunity.
It is the American promise.
And in these moments, when it feels as though we are teetering on the brink, when our leaders fail to live up to those promises, who instead do the very worst, it's our fellow citizens who remind us who we are, Gotta love, like, the New Age workout music.
Can you post this?
Can you post this?
They left a little bit out of that story.
Yeah, like, they kicked their asses off the island.
Just that, that little bit.
Can you post that and say, just ask the question, what did they leave out of this propaganda promo?
That is incredible.
I saw that last night, I'm like, oh my god.
Sorry, that's literal propaganda, that's insane.
That is amazing.
Amazing.
You wanna use that, this segment?
Um, I got a full cordboard.
Oh, that's a good point.
Alright, 45 seconds.
Can you block?
Can you lock?
Yeah, video for the hard.
I'll use that in beef.
Thank you.
Dr. G is in the house on America Firsts.
What are you doing, Alex?
Are you going through all my favorite songs in one day?
Are you there?
Press that button.
He's only an engineer.
I'm here.
I'm here.
Is it Friday?
I don't think it's Friday.
Are you trying to get me in a good mood?
Was that a Friday song?
My bad.
Yeah!
Jamiroquai?
Absolutely!
There's no excuse, there's no apologies to be made.
I can be in a good mood more than one day a week.
Although it might scare the listeners.
You know what's really gonna scare the listeners?
Finding out all of a sudden that we are allies with North Korea.
Did you know that America is an ally of the most Stalinist nation in the world?
Yeah!
Kamala announced it yesterday.
Here you go.
So the United States Shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.
And it is an alliance that is strong and enduring.
The president is seeing dead people, okay?
He's literally seeing dead people in the White House.
We're going to talk about, we're going to play you cuts from the press secretary's response to that disaster.
And his deputy is saying, we have a strong, strong alliance with the communist regime of North Korea.
It is a clown show!
An evil clown show.
Let's go to a man who's on the bright side of history, Don in Los Angeles.
It's been far too long!
Hey, Don!
Oh, you're a hard man to get through to, Dr. Steven.
It's worth the wait.
You know, I just had to share with you, so many people have Just from all different ethnic racial minorities you can imagine have been approaching me, I guess because I look like a Trump supporter.
It's because you're wearing that amazing America First t-shirt, no?
Ah, that's what gave me away.
And they're telling me how much they support Trump.
And last night, you wouldn't believe it, this Asian couple, turns out I believe they're Taiwanese, had brought their little daughter in because she had a fever.
And the gentleman doesn't really have any English, doesn't have one of those translator phones, but he was struggling so hard to talk to me.
It was kind of agonizing, exhausting listening to him.
And then I was trying to, you know, talk to him, but we communicated, but he was letting, he was so happy that Mike Pompeo And you wouldn't believe how, I can't even approximate how he sounded out Pompeo, but he was so happy that he'd come to Taiwan and had supported, you know, Taiwan standing up to China.
He's going like, CCP, no good!
Taiwan, good!
And then at the end, it took him a while to get it out, but he said, if Trump is president in 2024, and this little guy jumped up in the air and shot both his fists up in the air, he looked like a little rocket that was going to take off.
And just this sheer look of joy on his face.
I mean, and he's not the only one.
There's so many people, and everyone's different.
One says because of their gun rights.
One says because they started a small business.
Right.
And the economy.
One is for this, one is for that.
But, you know, it's contrary to, like, the media propaganda.
It's actually, Don, it's actually why Youngkin won in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
I have it from my precinct captain.
Thousands of minorities helped.
God bless you.
Stay on the line.
Let's give Don one of our new Dr. G America First Challenge coins.
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There's a whole generation of America First MAGA candidates, and one of the victors in the primary in New Hampshire is Special Forces Retired General Don Baldock.
And we're going to have him as a very special guest on the second hour of America First.
Then, the truth about the Biden economy.
They're lying to you.
They're gaslighting you every single day.
former Congressman Dave Bratt will tell you the truth.
Thank you.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm gonna have to rethink that music.
That's a little bit weird.
The pattern music is a little bit too slow.
But it is a good choice of music for the guest we're going to open the second hour with because of his incredible military background.
Is he back?
Is he on the line yet?
Not yet.
Okay, so General Baldock, we're trying to connect with him.
Before we do that, let's have a little bit of a discussion on what's happening in Florida, because there seems to be a bit of confusion between the man who runs the state and a local sheriff.
This is Sheriff Carmine Marcheno talking about the Lee County fatality rate.
Cut one, play cut.
What do you know right now about injuries and fatalities, and do you have any sense, any estimate of how many people are left to be rescued?
So while I don't have confirmed numbers, I definitely know the fatalities are in the hundreds.
There are thousands of people that are waiting to be rescued, and again, cannot give a true assessment until we're actually on scene assessing each scene, and we can't access people.
That's the problem.
And that was pretty much the mainstream media's take.
Hundreds and hundreds of dead.
Even this morning I was listening to the mainstream media.
Let's talk to the man who's responsible for mobilizing the state to protect those in the harm's way of the Ian Storm.
This is Governor DeSantis.
His take.
Cut to.
None of that is confirmed.
I think what that is is there were 911 calls for people saying, hey, the water is rising in my home.
I'm going to go up in the attic, but I'm really worried.
Of course, those folks are now are going to be checked on.
And so I think you'll have more clarity about that in the next day or so as they're able to go to those locations and determine whether people need services or are able to be rescued.
My sense is that that water was very, very high, but my hope is that if folks did go higher, if they were there, it's not comfortable, but now we're in a situation.
I mean, if you're there, they want to come get you. - So what is it?
Why is a local local sheriff saying it's hundreds and hundreds but the governor who has the overarching perspective saying it's not true?
Mr. G, keep an eye on all of this.
We want an update as to what the real figures are.
The devastation looks bad.
But when it comes to human fatalities, we want to have the facts.
Okay, we have connected with the successful primary candidate from the beautiful Granite State of New Hampshire.
He is a former Brigadier General, served with distinction.
He has been the commander of numerous special operations units.
General Don Baldock, welcome to America First.
Well, sir, it's great to be here and certainly say hello to your listeners and viewers.
When was the last time we saw each other?
It was at a fun town hall event in the depths of New Hampshire not too long ago, correct?
That's right.
Upper Grafton County.
You're absolutely right, sir.
Yeah, indeed, and that was a fun night with a room full of real patriots.
Before we talk about your recent success and your plans for New Hampshire and what you're going to do to defeat Maggie Hassan, can you just tell our millions of listeners, how many combat tours do you have?
Well, I have a total of 81 months in combat, and that spans from Grenada all the way through Afghanistan.
But in Afghanistan, I have 10 tours of duty there.
And that's a total of about 66 months.
And then the other combat tours add to that, giving me a total of 81 months in combat.
I would say that's enough service to the nation.
Why are you doing this crazy thing and running for the Senate?
Well, actually, I'm very, very concerned for the future of my children and grandchildren.
My sons, I had one son that lost his one son that lost his job, another son that lost his business during COVID.
They're in the process of working that back.
Now, we had a lot of things that hurt granite staters and Americans across the board and our children during COVID.
But that is now carried over in the Biden administration with Poor economic policies, out-of-control spending, border issues, lack of national security.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
And Senator Hassan is at the forefront of that, voting 100% of the time with him and then 96% of the time with the party.
And Chuck Schumer, she can't be trusted to do the right thing for granted staters.
And spending two years on this campaign trail, working bottom-up, visiting every town and city, which I might say she has not done.
In five and a half years as a senator, um, you know, lends itself to, hey, we need change.
And, um, I have, uh, you know, God gave me a particular set of skills and experiences over the last 33 and a half years.
I think I can go to Washington DC and do the right thing for the people of New Hampshire.
So I'm willing to do that for them, work for them.
Uh, and they can use me in that capacity.
But public service is what it's all about.
And when your country and state is in trouble, as it is now, people need to stand up at the local, state, and federal level.
So I feel I'm doing my part, which I believe is necessary.
Well, God bless you.
New Hampshire is a very special place in the heart of my family.
My wife's family has been going there for more than 60 years every summer.
We try and escape there at least once a year.
I first heard you were running.
When I was visiting my buddy Josh's gun store in Whitefield, your poster was in the window, and he is a veteran, an armed forces veteran, and he said, you gotta meet this guy, this general, he's the real deal.
But let's drill down a little bit on the situation in your state, because I think it's endemic to a lot of America.
I know some very successful businessmen and women in New Hampshire.
A buddy of mine has the most successful brewery in Littleton.
A friend of ours, a conservative, just opened her second coffee shop in Littleton.
You know who you are, Angel.
God bless you.
And the stories they tell me...
About how, since COVID, they just can't find people to work.
They're making money, they're investing in the local community, they're bringing people to their businesses, and somehow there's this attitude of handouts from the state or not working.
What is going on in New Hampshire, General?
Well, I think it's a fundamental result of an unlimited federal government that gives money to the states and states, unfortunately, willing to take this money with strings attached.
And then they find themselves tied to certain social programs that end up being handouts and not hand ups.
And we saw that during covid.
And you're right.
Every place in the state right now, we have people coming out of retirement to get second jobs.
And thank goodness those jobs are available because they can no longer stay in a retired status because they can't afford it.
And that's a shame as well.
And now you've got people that won't go to work because they're receiving so many handouts.
And guess what?
If the federal government keeps spending money like they're spending and doing this, those programs aren't going to exist.
So, you know, you really need to be encouraged to go get a job So that when that happens, hey, at least you have a job because that government money is not right now.
It's going to run out.
I mean, we are at the point now where we're just printing it.
We have nothing to back it up.
And it's just something that is, you know, really hurting New Hampshire.
Everywhere you go, every single restaurant is hiring in every single category.
Every single hotel is hiring in every single category.
You know, businesses.
My son has reestablished his hardscaping business.
You know, he does all that fine work with patios and stuff.
He can't get someone to show up for more than a day.
Unbelievable.
And thank you, by the way, for reminding me when it comes to restaurant owners as well.
Val and Nancy, you know who you are in Littleton.
Amazing people!
Oh, I love New Hampshire.
Okay, we need to get this guy to the Senate.
It's DonBaldock.com.
That's D-O-N.
B-O-L-D-U-C dot com Don Bulldog.
He looks like he's already in the Senate.
He's in some wood-paneled office that looks like it should be, you know, the West Wing of the White House.
I'm very impressed with that already.
What is your message to those who want to help you?
You know, it's not just a question of writing a check or, you know, giving a donation.
Are you also looking for volunteers for your campaign, sir?
We are looking for volunteers.
You know, we have a strong grassroots campaign.
We built it with over a thousand volunteers.
We're going to be putting out now a thousand shifts that need to be filled at polling stations across the state of New Hampshire, and we need volunteers for that.
So we're going to be putting that out on our website.
We need people to get involved.
We understand the problems that happen at the polls.
Everybody understands that.
But we've got to get people involved to prevent it and, you know, buy down.
The opportunities for people to do the wrong things and make your vote not count.
Right.
We got to stop that.
We can't have a redo of 2020.
Follow this man.
He's done enough for the nation, but he hasn't given up.
It's Jen, Don Baldock on Twitter.
B-O-L-D-U-C and then just Don Baldock dot com.
Support this man.
We need more fighters like the general here in the swamp.
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Ten Combat Tours, comma, next the Senate.
You got it.
New Hampshire really should be a winnable state, honestly.
Yeah, it should be.
Oh, Jeff. - Yeah.
Hotep Jesus.
I'll try.
I'm doing it now.
I'll do it now.
Okay.
You want me to cut the parts with you reacting to the DeSantis clips at the beginning?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just cut that out.
Alright, I gotta do the Jean-Pierre cuts now.
They're too good.
Yes, the 10 and 11.
Alright, is there anything... Oh, would you play me 7 again?
He has explicitly stated that we can get one-third of prisoners out of jail and it wouldn't make a difference.
He wants to get as many out as he can.
I'm quoting him.
He's argued dozens of times at the parole board to release criminals.
Oftentimes these are convicted murderers serving lifetime sentences, which he believes also we shouldn't have.
And some of these cases are quite harsh.
I'm recalling one of a man who murdered his girlfriend's mother with scissors.
Went to jail because the jury convicted him.
A jury of our peers convicted him.
The judge sentenced him to life in prison.
And yet, while we... Can you find... Was it yesterday that Biden was looking for the dead person?
Let me find that.
Yeah, it was yesterday's cutaway.
Alright, I'm going to tee that up before we do the Kareem Jean Pierre.
Like I said, Oz has gotten really good at going on the attack, which is important.
We need to get Oz back, Jeff.
What do you think?
Yeah, might as well.
Don't sound so excited.
Well, if we try now, we might be able to get him on before the election.
Yeah.
Polls are tightening in that race, by the way.
Yes.
Realistically, if we can win that race, I think we take the Senate.
Well, they definitely are, because he took the Black Lives Matter off his website, Fetterman.
He did?
Yeah, he did, he did.
He's nervous about the whole, uh... Well, he's pretty much lost support with that group, I think, after the ad that Oz put about him holding a black guy with a shotgun at gunpoint, so... Right.
He's going for the moderates now.
So coming in, or you'll tee up Biden.
Cut him up.
What's the congresswoman's name?
Oh, John.
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Do you remember a couple of days ago, the man who sadly is the president was looking for Congresswoman Jackie Walorski at an event at the White House, a congresswoman who's dead, who tragically died and who he issued a condolence who tragically died and who he issued a condolence statement on.
And he was looking for a couple of days ago.
Here's the reminder.
I want to thank all of you here for including bipartisan elected officials like Representative Governor, Senator Braun, Senator Booker, Representative... Jackie, are you here?
Where's Jackie?
Yeah, where's Jackie Wolorski?
Well, she's actually... She's gone.
She's passed away.
Now, she said, where's... He said, where's Jackie?
His press secretary was challenged afterwards, and this is the first time I've seen the mainstream media getting angry at her lies.
Two incredible cuts just yesterday.
Let's start with the first one.
She is finally being taken to task.
Cut ten!
I'm sorry to have to do this, but I'm compelled to ask you to go one more time back to the question about Congresswoman Waldorski.
I'm not sure why.
Why?
Why one more time?
Frankly, honestly, I think the memory of the Congresswoman and history requires some clarity here.
Can you explain where the mistake was made?
Was the President confused?
Was something written in the teleprompter that he didn't recognize?
I mean, you're jumping to a lot of conclusions.
No, but you're... No, I hear you, Stephen.
I'm answering the question that you're jumping to a lot of conclusions.
I just answered the question.
If that had been the case, I would have stated that, right?
I would clearly have stated what you just laid out.
What I have said is that she was on top of mine.
I know I'm an immigrant, I only come from England.
On top of mind, is that a phrase in America?
Sorry, Eric, can you help me?
You were born here, right?
You're like a real American.
Yep, born and raised in California, same hometown.
On top of mind, is that a phrase?
Never heard that before in my life.
Alright, Mr. G, in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania, in, I don't know, those places you like to hang out, is that a phrase?
It's funny, I was going to ask you if that's a British phrase, because I've never heard that before.
No, on top of mine is not a British phrase, so I guess it's not an American phrase, right?
Not at all.
Okay, good.
Alright, it gets even worse.
So, if you don't recognize the voice, our very own Jim Rosen, James Rosen of Newsmax, who is, by the way, a massive geek on the Beatles.
That's why he mentions the name John Lennon.
I mean, he is a walking encyclopedia on the Beatles.
He doesn't give up asking the question why Joe Biden was looking for a dead person.
Cut at 11.
Look, he was at an event, you all saw, you all watched, which is why you're asking the question, right, where he was calling out, again, congressional leaders, a bipartisan leadership that we have seen on this particular issue.
And again, he's going to see her family in just two days.
And she was on top of mine.
I mean, I don't, that is, I mean, that is, that is not an unusual, unusual scenario there.
I mean, I have John Lennon top of mind just about every day, but I'm not looking around for him anyway.
When you sign a bill for John Lennon, Lennon has president, then we can have this conversation.
Okay, go ahead.
Ooh!
Shots fired!
Man down!
When you sign a bill about John Lennon... Was he signing a bill about Jackie Wolorski?
I'm confused.
Or are you just dumb?
God bless James Rosen.
I'm going to have to text him because that was a doozy.
Let's go to Brian who's been waiting very patiently.
Green Bay.
Brian, welcome to America First.
Hey Seth, it's Brian aka Cheese from Green Bay.
God, I wanted to ask you, and I don't know your opinion on this, they kicked everybody out of the Russian area through the embassy.
Yes.
And we have ships off of Alaska.
What's your opinion on that?
What do you think?
What do I think about what?
The pipeline or what?
Well, I think the pipeline has something to do with it.
I think everything's kind of coming down to the election.
And are they going to call the election off?
No, no.
This is like, you know, crazy QAnon stuff.
No, the powers that be, the Democrats are insane and they're evil, but they're not going to call off the election.
Because if they did, Patriots would have something to say about it.
And they know they'd lose.
God preserve us from a second civil war, but the Democrats are insane.
They're evil, but they know who'd win.
If you're afraid of guns, you're not gonna win a civil war, I'll tell you that much.
So, God preserve us, let's make sure there isn't a civil war.
But no, can I be explicit?
Watch my lips.
They will not cancel the election.
Now what's happening, with regards to Russia, There's a Latin phrase, qui bono, who profits, who benefits, that is always useful asking in geopolitical matters of this kind.
Who benefits from blowing up the Russian Nord Stream pipeline?
It's not Russia.
Europe is in trouble this winter.
They need energy.
They need energy bad.
The fact that they would actually make their situation even worse, they're going to be in a crunch already, makes no sense.
Biden is a coward.
He's actually afraid of Putin, so there's no way he'd do it.
And then you have to ask the question, who profits?
Well, think of this.
Putin is in such a bad situation.
He's had to mobilize the draft for the first time since 1945.
This war in less than ten months has become shockingly unpopular even for the Kremlin.
He needs, like all dictators, all authoritarians, to point at the boogeyman outside and that's what he's doing.
If I had to guess, and this is It's purely a hypothesis.
He blew up the pipeline just like he blew up that housing block in Moscow to justify the Second Chechen War.
So that's my take, but it's a hypothesis.
Let's get more evidence and then we'll give you the evidence-based analysis.
Great questions.
Thank you so much.
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He's not letting up and calling all this out.
No.
I've written down that you were going to do a Mighty Oaks in A.
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I don't think we did that.
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All right, there's somebody out there called Larry Summers who It's rather outspoken when it comes to what's happened in the last year and a half in America, and we have our eminence grise when it comes to the national economy.
He is the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University.
Dave Bratt, former congressman from Virginia.
I'd like you to react to this rather outspoken little clip from Larry Summer.
Play cut.
We basically had inflation under control for 40 years, despite the fact that the price of oil fluctuated, despite the fact that there were all kinds of supply shocks.
We lost the thread along with many other countries about a year and a half ago with massively expansionary policies relative to the size of the GDP gap.
He's not backing down Dave.
I think he's going to be deported off Martha's Vineyard as well.
So give us your reaction to that little clip.
Yeah, well, he is a genius intellectually, right?
Larry Summers is the head of Harvard and the head of the World Bank for a while, all these kind of things.
He's got the pedigree, he's got the brain, he can write the top journal articles and all that.
But what's noticeably striking about that clip Is that it's really the first time he mentioned the fiscal overreach on the stimulus.
All these guys kind of wait until the obvious, right?
So now the shoe has dropped.
Markets are freaking out.
England had Armageddon and would have had a sovereign debt crisis yesterday if they wouldn't have weighed in on the long, you know, long term, whatever they call them over there.
Bonds.
Bonds.
Yeah.
And so it's good he's saying it.
The left still isn't saying it.
He's been good on monetary policy.
But like you said, isn't this like, you know, it's not the horses bolted.
It's like, you know, the hundreds, hundreds of stallions have left a few months ago and now you're going to say it.
So tell us, give us your take.
You were on Steve Bannon's show earlier today.
I'm going to be with Steve this afternoon.
You don't want to miss it.
So talk to us about what happened with the Fed and talk to us about, we'll talk about the other issues in a moment, talk to us about the Fed and talk to us about the real estate market.
What does it all mean?
Yeah, well, so the big thing is you've been around, I've been around, you know, 20, 30 years talking about these issues and the old Tea Party movement.
Everyone said, Dave, how can debt be $10 trillion?
And then a decade later, how can debt be $20 trillion?
And I'd say it can't be.
It's not sustainable.
So now it's $31 trillion.
And the answer to the basic question is, why now?
Because it all is falling apart right now.
It's because you've got both.
You've got stagflation.
So you've got a recession, 0% economic growth.
The real economy has exposed itself.
It's a corpse laying on a table.
We've been pumping blood in it.
But you also now have inflation.
And so now they're in a bind.
And I'll dig into that in a minute.
Hold on to that because you've got some fascinating data on inflation rates in Europe and how it affects us.
You can get it at Getter.
Go to Bratt Economics, but the Dean is going to give us the summary in a moment.
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So are you on Getter regularly, Dave?
you Yeah, every time I go on Bannon, I post kind of a mini little lecture notes, four or five charts with a little explanation.
And then I post the Bannon interview or your interview is posted there.
All those, I was on Charlie Kirk, whatever, you know, I go on.
Right, right, right.
All right, so I'm going to jump straight in with the figures that you're telling us about from Europe inflation.
Yeah.
And then we'll talk about the debt servicing.
Good.
Good.
Perfect.
And that and that is why I think the Fed has to stay hard right now.
Wall Street.
What does that mean?
Well, just, you know, Wall Street screaming bloody murder.
You've got to let up on the economy.
And so ordinarily they would.
They had 0% interest rates for Wall Street for a decade.
And so what's changed?
Well, inflation's changed.
Then I'll go through these charts, and you'll see the numbers.
You end up with, by about 2070, 100% of GDP is required to pay just interest expense at 7% inflation, which is not crazy land, right?
Just 7% is the assumption.
Is that the headset we sent you?
Yes, yes.
It's perfect.
It's crystal clear.
Yeah, I know.
It's way better on this end.
Good.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, perfect.
80 seconds.
All right, standby.
Want to use any cuts here?
No, the cuts are good.
And his comment, Larry, when he said we basically haven't had any real inflation for 40 years.
Do you agree with that?
Not 40, 79.
Well, yeah, I guess 40.
Yeah, nothing significant.
- Okay. - And then the new monetary theory guys and all that, they want to run 5% inflation to pay everything down, right?
Pay down the debt.
But what I'm about ready to present is why they can't do that.
And the comedy point here is that this crowds out Democrat spending, right?
If the interest payments get too big.
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Yeah, yeah, money, money, money.
That is the topic today.
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Dave Brat, talk to us about the The merciless, merciless nature of mathematics and inflation rates and what you learned when you looked at inflation in other parts of the world.
Yeah, well, so the interest on the debt, I wanted to take a look and just see what the basic facts were.
It shocked me when I went out and looked.
And this has been a long-running debate, like we just said, going back a decade or two.
But I came across one stunning graph.
It's at Brat Economics.
I'll post it today for your for the crew out there.
But it basically shows over the past 20, 30 years for all of Western Europe, which is the more rational, hopefully better run economies.
But even for them, if they've experienced 5% or higher inflation, it takes them on average.
And I'm being very fair here.
When you look at this chart, six to eight to 10 years to get back down to 20%.
So hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
We're like pushing double figures almost of inflation.
If you're at just 5%, it can take you up to a decade, Dave?
Yeah, oh no, up to, on the chart, up to 28 years.
For the worst case, I'm being fair here, right?
I'm just using the kind of the median case, six, eight, ten years, just to be fair is fair.
When you look at the chart, I try to be ethical.
And so, yeah, so we've got a six to eight to ten year window.
And, you know, we're a little bit more free market, a little bit better run in the past.
Right.
And so we can, if we turn, there's no sign that we're turning around on any of this.
But then that leads you to, OK, so that sets the plate.
or the table for what's about to come.
So inflation is with us.
It's going to stay.
Now, the Fed knows that.
Right.
And so the Fed has always favored Wall Street with his Greenspan put and, you know, zero percent interest rates for a for a decade.
Well, that's the new thing we're just talking about.
They can no longer do that because of these interest payments on the debt.
And so you can just go out to Fred, you know, the Federal Reserve database and see the interest on the debt.
It's about $300 billion to $500 billion is the normal number.
You're just kind of like saying that, like that's a number that we can compute.
Right.
No, right.
And that's, you've got to see the graphs.
And so, and I just did that whimsically, because the real number now, the interest rates and inflation have doubled, minima, and I'm being conservative, right?
So the old numbers you used to see, $300 billion, $500 billion, are double.
Right?
So now the interest on the debt is 600 billion to a trillion.
I'm not an economist.
I'm not a dean of a business school.
These are numbers that make me think never going to be paid off.
Am I crazy?
No, you're not.
And so the next, let me give you the next couple numbers.
So what does that mean in numbers?
The next chart I got out there, the 10 year interest cost under the old interest rate regime was 8 trillion.
So double it.
So that's 16 trillion dollars.
And that's by the end of 2032 on the chart you'll see.
Can I just put that in terms that I understand as a national security guy?
That's 4 G-watts.
So that's 4 times the war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
So that's 8 wars.
That's the cost of 8 wars.
Right.
And they're bankrupting us.
Another way of putting it is in terms of federal revenues.
So, and this is an old number.
This was put together a year or two ago by the Peterson Institute.
So, with the low interest rates, low inflation numbers, and even under the low benchmark scenario, interest on the debt would be 45% of all federal revenues by 2050.
So, half of the revenues?
Half of the revenues that the federal government takes in.
But again, that was before the inflation and the double the interest rate.
So now, instead of 45%, it's 90% of revenues right now, if everything stays the same.
So this is impossible.
You can't have 90% of the government revenue go to servicing the debt.
So what does this mean in real life?
Bring us back down to earth, Dave Brat.
What gives first?
Where is the first thing that crashes?
Well, back in the 07-08, that gives you a hint, right?
So we're waiting for the shoes to drop.
They're dropped.
CarMax stock went down 24% today.
Apple looks like they're pervious instead of impervious to getting hit.
England had about a sovereign debt crisis yesterday.
That's coming our way.
So the shoe will first drop in Europe, right?
So we're waiting for one of these layman moments for the huge sign.
But the real estate market in the U.S.
is already tanking.
The credit card market is tanking in the U.S.
The car market, right, CarMax stock down 24% today, in a day.
Right?
Due to these interest rates, right?
And so, and you know, the business guys, you talk, when interest rates go up, everyone goes off the table, right?
They're not investing anymore.
They're not, they're waiting.
And then that has an impact on suppliers and paychecks and hiring.
And it's a multiplier.
That's a vicious cycle instead of a virtuous cycle.
And so that's every small business guy and gal out there knows exactly what we're saying.
Well, thanks for cheering me up, Dave Brat.
Yeah, no, it's a pleasure.
Just bookmark brateconomics.com.
Go to get a Brat Economics.
How about this?
I don't want to depress everybody every single week.
I mean, look, you bring the truth, you bring the reality, you bring the sanity check.
Let's just put the marker on the wall for next week.
As a former congressman, as a truth teller, I was on Capitol Hill yesterday talking about What the GOP needs to do after the midterms when it comes to Hunter Biden and everything else.
So next week, let's talk about what Congress could do if they were sane with regards to everything you just painted for us.
Will you do that?
Yeah, I got it ready to go.
It's called The Supply Side and I'll go into detail on some potential good news next week.
I love it.
All right.
We have a menu.
Thanks to the Dean, Dean Dave Bragg.
God bless you.
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See, that's what I want the Cornerstone segments to be like, Jeff.
I know.
I mean, that's really, that's a massively useful data dump.
And they just roll over the story.
I know.
It would be better for them, too, because people would, you know what I mean, listen more and be more engaged in the segment.
Alright, what should we call that?
Something about inflation in general, like Summers' comments?
Yesterday, the British economy almost collapsed yesterday.
The British economy almost collapsed yesterday?
Yeah.
Any cuts you want to use this segment?
Oh, it's the E block, right?
It is.
Final block.
Maybe... No, we've done it all.
Except Fetterman, right?
Which one?
Fetterman.
What do you think, Geoff?
I think that's the only one we haven't done.
Oh, the Oz one, yeah.
Cut seven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Oz one.
Alright, come in with that.
Coming with OzCut7, no liner.
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He has explicitly stated that we can get one-third of prisoners out of jail and it wouldn't He wants to get as many out as he can.
I'm quoting him.
He's argued dozens of times at the parole board to release criminals.
Oftentimes, these are convicted murderers serving lifetime sentences, which he believes also we shouldn't have.
And some of these cases are quite harsh.
I'm recalling one of a man who murdered his girlfriend's mother with scissors.
Dr. Oz, he's upping his game.
What do you think, Eric?
Not too shabby?
I am pleasantly surprised.
The judge sentenced him to life in prison, and yet while in jail, this man learned horticulture and started doing yoga.
And John Fetterman said it didn't square with him that this man would actually have been guilty and he wanted him released.
He was the only member of the parole board, only member of the parole board who felt he should be released.
Dr. Oz, he's upping his game.
What do you think, Eric?
Not too shabby.
I am pleasantly surprised.
He is very, very effective at attacking Fetterman, which is really the most important thing at What do you think, Mr. G?
Should we get him back?
Yes, he's getting better.
Do you think we can get him back before the election?
What do you think his team's gonna be like?
Molasses like last time?
It's probably just like the election right now.
It's a toss-up.
Alright, give it a try.
Let's go to Matt in North Carolina.
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Hello, Dr. G. Hey, welcome!
What's your question?
What's your comment?
My comment is, Dave Brat is very correct.
If there's any more important time for LGBTQ, let's get Biden to quit.
It's almost like it couldn't be too soon.
Absolutely.
Let's get Biden to quit.
That's why we here are completely LGBTQ.
But then, Matt, then we get Kamala!
Well, there's got to be a workaround on that somehow.
I mean, she pointed at North Korea and said they are our allies.
I know, I know.
For those who missed it, we've got to play that again.
Sheer incredible insanity.
This is the Vice President of the United States talking about the Stalinist communist regime that is North Korea.
Cut eight.
So the United States shares a very important relationship which is an alliance with the republic of north korea and it is an alliance that is strong and enduring uh... we actually went to war over korea to fight the communists americans died on the korean peninsula you cretin she didn't even correct herself unbelievable
I'd really, really mention it, but it's the time right now.
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of what black life was like.
Some of them look pretty prosperous.
Divide Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
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That's what black people were.
We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
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Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus.
Hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
You see people trying to rewrite history.
The American people know these names have to go.
Why is that?
Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black, and to hate themselves.
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He's the Director of Investigations and Research at that den of swamp monster fighters.
It is Judicial Watch and he's Chris Farrell.
Chris, thank you for coming in studio.
Great to be with you Seb, thanks.
So I can't even remember if it was a year ago or two years ago but whenever you come back on the show I have to bring it up because it's rare that on live radio a guest of mine shocks me and you did and we were talking about I think we were
We were talking about maybe a specific case to do with President Trump, but I think your answer came out of what you'd gleaned from the activities of the Bureau on the border.
Right.
And I asked you, so what do we do with a corrupt federal Bureau of Investigations?
And you actually said, send in the marshals and dismantle it and distribute its missions across other agencies.
And I was like, who is this crazy extremist in my studio?
And then I sat there, and I pondered, and then I realized, and now I wish it would happen yesterday, after recent, you know, the hawk arrest in front of the seven children.
This was long before Mar-a-Lago.
So let's start with that, and if I can jump straight in, we'll talk about what that speech in front of Independence Hall means for America, but I want to tackle what you said in the studio previously.
The FBI exists for a specific reason.
It has missions that...
Other agencies, for the time being, like the counterintelligence mission that you execute, don't cover.
It has special mandates with bank robbery, with interstate crime, with kidnapping.
It has the counterintelligence, then it has the counterterrorism mandate.
So let's talk brass tacks.
We're in DC.
You've worked in the U.S.
Army as a counterintelligence officer.
What do we do with the FBI?
Give me the Farrell game plan for 2025, January the 21st.
So the first thing is an investigative division is created within the U.S.
Marshals Service.
That investigative division would take on all the responsibilities the criminal activities, the criminal investigative activities.
The CRIM.
So the FBI does criminal investigations, then counterintelligence and counterterrorism.
But the criminal stuff goes to the marshals.
Or goes to the marshals.
Agents are vetted for lateral transfer into the school.
From the bureau?
And other agencies as well.
Okay.
But yes, because you're trying to stand up a new entity.
And frankly, the more fresh or different blood you get in, the better.
And so there are other 1810s, that's the government shorthand for a law enforcement agent, who want to come in, they're scrupulously vetted, and then transferred in if they're not one of these political operators that we've been seeing in the FBI.
Now, let me just stop there for a second.
Sure.
We don't, apart from your TV show, we don't have a lot of knowledge of the Marshals.
We know that they hunt down fugitives.
Right.
But comparatively, in comparison to the 35,000 people at the FBI, this is a small agency.
It is.
Are we asking too much of the Marshals?
No.
And they're our oldest federal law enforcement agency.
Relatively scandal-free.
They've had their problems here and there.
Nobody's perfect.
But certainly not anything like the FBI.
And so they have the structure.
They have the traditions.
They have the history.
They have the legal standing.
A U.S.
Marshal can go basically anywhere in pursuit of crime.
So there's an existing body and structure.
Which if you broke out a new section, the investigative division, and lateral people in, there'd be a consistency and an ability to kind of, a continuity of operations that would be, wouldn't be a difficult lift.
So things like bank robbery, kidnapping, that moves over to the marshals.
Right.
And remember, you know, the kidnapping involvement of the FBI is really only an outcome of the Lindbergh baby kidnapping.
It was a political move then.
Yeah.
In fact, General Schwarzkopf's father was the head of the New Jersey State Police at that point.
So people think of General Schwarzkopf from the first Gulf War.
His dad was the commander of the New Jersey State Police when the Lindbergh kidnapping happened.
And it was very resentful that the feds came in and pulled the case from him because the New Jersey State Police thought they were perfectly capable of investigating it.
And that whole thing was bungled.
But nonetheless, that's the FBI's in on kidnapping.
The counterintelligence function...
So they're finding the spies in U.S. soil.
What happens to that?
Because that's your forte.
That's a huge issue or question too, because counterintelligence is broken.
It's at the point of almost non-existence.
So rigorous counterespionage investigations are pathetic.
Counterintelligence operations, offensive counterintelligence, which in sort of layman's terms would be double agent operations, right?
We run a guy against an intelligence service and let them think they're controlling him.
Well, actually, we're running the show.
It's a false recruitment.
Let me just say here, and tell me if you think I'm wrong, I don't think CI, I don't think intelligence operations per se, is the job of a Lawrence Worsham officer.
It's a very different kind of mission.
It is, and that's why the Army splits its mission.
And so, within the Army, you have the military police and their criminal investigations division, which does law enforcement as you would traditionally think of it.
But then national security crimes are broken out, and that's a function of Army intelligence.
And an MP would not be trying to catch spies.
Right, and so they're both sworn law enforcement officers with guns and badges, but they have very different approach to things.
So one's kind of the traditional cops and robbers criminal thing, and then the military intelligence arm of the army does all the national security crimes, and they look at it two different ways.
There's a straight up enforcement of counter espionage investigations, find the bad guys and arrest them.
But then there's also an intelligence operations side of it, which seeks to do things That are really intelligence operations.
Like disinformation.
Disinformation, influence operations, double agent operations, psychological warfare.
There's all sorts of other things that get involved in that intelligence function that's not straight up law enforcement.
A portion of it is law enforcement, but it doesn't have to be.
So, could we envisage the D.O.D.
taking over the F.B.I.' 's counterintelligence mission?
Well, you know, for a time after 9-11, there was something called CIFA, Counterintelligence Field Activity, and that was run out of the Pentagon, and they got themselves kind of cross-threaded and were sort of quickly disbanded.
But there are grounds to say, look, the military's, I think the Army in particular has had a very robust counterintelligence effort, even to this day, even though it's a shadow of what it once was.
But there is a history, an ability, a documented track record of activity.
And so a new counterintelligence agency or effort could be launched.
But you're coming from Judicial Watch saying we need another agency.
I'm I thought you guys don't like more bloat.
Well, we don't, but what we don't like is established corruption.
And right now, we've got, you know, a federal law enforcement agency that brands itself There's the premier investigative agency in the world, and they're, you know, at least at the headquarters element, they're utterly corrupt.
And so we can't have that continue anymore.
And if it means splitting out the functions so it's cleaner and less corrupt, well, fine.
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All right, so we're kind of halfway through.
We've got the Krim that will be handled by the U.S.
Marshals, bringing over 1811s from the Bureau that have been vetted, or new law enforcement officers.
We've got potentially a new counterintelligence agency that is not rife with corruption that will do the spy-catching and the other CIA operations.
What happens to counterterrorism?
So, let me preface that question.
Where do you stand with two issues?
Number one, we had a FBI agent of 33 years on the show, a retired agent, say that the reason we have what we have in the FBI now, the corruption, is because of that meeting at Camp David after 9-11.
When Bush, President Bush, told the then director of the FBI, from now on you're not cops investigating crimes, you're an intelligence agency preventing the next 9-11.
So it went from being feds who are cops To being an intelligence agency, which was a mission that was squeezed onto them.
Too much started to be run out of DC, the Washington Field Office, etc.
And he said that laid the groundwork for all of this.
So your reaction to that analysis, that 9-11 and that Bush-driven change is part of why we are where we are today.
And then secondly, I've never asked you this question.
The post 9-11 changes with DHS and the Office of the National Director of Intelligence.
Are you a fan?
Can we get rid of them?
So how does all of that fit into a plan for reform of the Bureau and the IC writ large, Chris?
So Homeland Security should not have been even constructed in the first place.
It was another knee-jerk reaction.
The first secretary, Tom Ridge, is famously quoted as saying, no, we don't need anything like this.
And then he goes on to become the secretary.
It's a monstrosity.
And certain things really need to be just unwound and undone.
The ODNI is another incredible layering waste of bureaucratic nonsense.
It's basically a layer on top that doesn't do anything.
It does nothing but complicate things and spend more money.
So there needs to be sort of a de-evolution of a lot of these efforts.
Desperate people do desperate things, and that was sort of the knee-jerk reaction to 9-11.
What about this comment from the agent that turning the Bureau into an intelligence preventative arm laid a lot of the bad foundation?
Exactly.
It's exactly true.
It's also giving them the counterterrorism mission is also...
You know, and I'm thinking about not just the analytical investigative side, but the kinetic proactive side.
They're just, it's too much of everything on top of everything.
And when you're dealing with a counterterrorism mission, it is best left, I believe, to the military and not to guys.
It becomes a mishmash that's gotten out of control.
And then when it's happening CONUS, when it's happening on continental US, who should be investigating terrorism leads in America?
Like if there's a new AQ building up cells, if the Bureau's demonstrated it's too corrupt and untrustworthy and using the Patriot Act against parents at school board meetings, who should be doing CT?
Well, that counterintelligence agency that I spoke of, that would really fall under their responsibilities, in the feral view of how things should be reorganized.
And it can be done very well.
There's some very sharp, very good, very competent people out there.
I've gotten old enough now that people that used to work for me many years ago are now in positions of authority.
And, you know, I know the stuff that they're made of, and they want to do the right thing, and they want to protect America, and they want to protect civil rights.
You've seen whistleblowers come out.
There's been a string, almost two dozen now, who've come forward and said the FBI is completely out of control.
So this is the next question I wanted to ask you.
members of Congress trying to straighten things out.
I'm glad to see that because, frankly, for a long time, a lot of guys were more interested in their retirement pay than in actually doing the right thing.
So this is the next question I wanted to ask you.
Of course, it's hard to role play it or what have you, but I would hope if I were a special agent with a few years in, if I were given the warrant to bust down the door of a pro-life activist who shoved somebody if I were given the warrant to bust down the door of a pro-life activist who shoved somebody because he was screaming at his 12-year-old son outside of abortion clinic, or if I were the agent who was told to put Peter Navarro in leg shackles for
Sorry, Mr. ASAC.
Sorry, whoever you are.
Here's my badge and here's my gun.
Why do you think that out of the 34,000, it's two dozen who said, you know, yeah, I'd like a pension, but it's not that important.
You'd think of all the agencies that had prestige, there'd be people with more backbone.
Do you have any theory as to why there seems to be just such an inertia to do the right thing?
Well, human beings are capable of infinite rationalization.
And so that's problem number one.
And so it turns out to, well, that's not me.
That's not my situation.
I'm doing this and I'm doing the best I can.
I'm going to try to fight this the way I would do it.
And so there's a lot of sort of self-convincing talk there.
The other part of it is frankly, hey, I got a mortgage.
I got two car payments and I have two kids headed to college.
And it's just math.
And they say, look, I need an income.
I understand all this wonderful God and country and the flag stuff, but I can't go reinvent myself because I'm, pick a number, I'm 50 years old and I've been in for 17 years and I just got to hit 20.
So as long as I hit 20 and I can retire and then I can go get my consulting job, I mean, that is the level of narrow, it's careerism, and sometimes it's opportunism, but that's the calculation that people are making.
And that's very grim.
But that is what happens.
Look, I've sat and talked to federal law enforcement officers who have told me stuff that would make your hair stand on end.
And I say, what are you going to do about it?
Oh, no, no, no.
I thought you raised your right hand.
What are you going to do about it?
Hey, look.
In 18 months, I can retire.
I'm not going to get involved.
It's not my problem.
It's bigger than me.
And I'm not going to throw myself in front of a speeding truck.
That's the answer you get back.
And on more than one occasion, I can assure you.
On dozens of occasions.
They're not willing to bite the bullet.
Well, two dozen men did.
And one of them was on our show this week.
Kyle Serafin, who put his name and his face to his activity as a whistleblower.
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All right, so we are 40 odd days less than from a midterm election.
Right now, Chris, it looks as if there will be a turnaround.
There will be a win for the Republicans.
They'll take the House, maybe the Senate as well.
The House will have control of committees, will have subpoena power.
It would be nice if once when they were in the majority, the Republicans acted as if they are in the majority and not in the minority.
Matt Gaetz was on our show a few months ago and he said his dream is to turn every committee of the House into an investigatory committee that actually does oversight, that subpoenas people.
My request, my modest request is, you know, beyond Hunter Biden and the other things that need to be investigated, is to impeach Mayorkas.
I think one of the most mendacious evil individuals in this cabinet is the Secretary of Homeland Security who knows what's happening.
He knows the suffering he's created by opening the borders.
What would be on your list of when it comes to your specialty, national security, counter-intelligence, what kind of things could a serious Congress start to do in November or should do?
It's really overwhelming.
Yes, the size.
It is.
And I can hop and skip from topics.
So we talked briefly about Mallorca and the border.
Fentanyl and cartels.
I mean, you could go on and on.
But I mentioned counterintelligence before.
It's as a discipline.
We just don't do it properly anymore.
Not at all.
Why?
Let's start there.
Why does America, the most powerful intelligence conglomerate in the world, not do counterintelligence properly?
There's a few different reasons.
One is, it's not very sexy.
And there's not a lot of publicity around it.
And if you do it right, no one knows.
But during the Cold War, we did it well.
We did.
And no one knew.
And that's a beautiful thing.
And we won.
Right.
In part because we did do it well.
And nobody knows a lot of the stuff, and that's fine.
It's good.
But I love Navy SEALs.
They're wonderful people, but they have a great press, and they put out movies, and they believe their own.
Good promos.
Believe their own press releases and all that kind of good stuff.
But if you're really busy doing your job, and you're doing it effectively, it doesn't happen.
Right.
No one goes to work every day now looking to defeat China.
Yeah.
Who in the United States government, what's their portfolio?
They get up every morning and go into work, and the number one job is to defeat China.
One way or the other.
I don't necessarily mean an all-out battle, but I mean who goes to roll back China?
Who even thinks in terms of we are at war with China?
Correct.
Right.
So there's big, big strategic questions, let alone, let's have Hunter Biden discuss his laptop, right?
That's sort of...
That's one target.
But I mean there's large systemic problems we have.
What are we doing?
We were energy independent for a little while.
We've gone from a vibrant economy with energy independence to a hundred degrees in the opposite direction in two years.
All right, so it's tough to have, as you said, I mean, you know, the Seals have good promo capabilities, but it's tough to have a sexy committee investigation on why American government employees don't go to their job in the morning thinking, how am I going to defeat China?
That's kind of an esoteric grand strategy kind of thing.
You'd have to have, you know, Ed Luttwak and Victor Davis Hanson in front of the committee.
Let's eat the elephant by taking small nibbles.
What would be a demonstrable act of seriousness in terms of... I mean, look, you guys fight corruption.
That's your raison d'être.
In terms of the kinds of things you're fighting at Judicial Watch, what would you like to see be the first act of a serious Congress?
You know, the slow motion, incremental, Cool.
that took place against President Trump has got to be unwound.
And so... So, Operation Crossfire.
Hurricane, Brennan, Comey, Clapper.
I mean, all the way back.
Right.
I mean, if that persists, if that is the established, finished narrative, and that's the history, and that's okay, we're... I mean, that has got to be undone.
And then last, I'll jump in.
Mark Milley.
Oh, okay.
You wrote a piece on that.
We'll discuss that.
Millie needs to be held to account.
All right.
I want to get some concrete things on the record, because this could be used as a little bit of a menu for Congress in November.
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So we're back at the challenge we had just a few moments ago.
It's such a huge, flipping topic.
Where do we begin?
Where do we begin with unraveling What they did to President Trump and his administration, the fact that I was told by a former CIA station chief that they had an NSA team of four contractors who are actually surveilling the Trump White House after the election.
So, you know, it went on not just during the campaign.
So what are the, let's do it this way.
What are the big questions that have to be asked by a serious Congress?
when it comes to Russia collusion, crossfire hurricanes, so forth?
Give me a couple of big questions, Chris.
So the apparatus that put into motion the coup attempt against the president, number one.
Number two, I would go after...
By apparatus, I mean the names and the modalities that we use to subvert him.
Yes, absolutely.
And we know parts of it.
We have snapshots of parts of it.
But there needs to be an actual post-mortem done.
And that's excruciating and it doesn't make headlines.
And it requires everyone to pay attention.
Very difficult.
And it can't be reduced to a five-second sound bite from a committee chair.
What I'd love to see is that the committees that are formed, that the members, the actual House members, shut up.
I want investigative councils to do lines of questioning.
I want them to chime in as appropriate.
But when they're all grandstanding for five minutes at a piece, nothing ever gets accomplished.
You need to run an entire string of questions.
You need professionals.
Watergate style.
Watergate style.
That's one part of it.
I need January 6th unraveled for me.
Not the kangaroo committee idiocy that we see going on with Benny Thompson and Cheney and all that.
But I need a real explanation for that.
I need to know about the car bomb supposedly at the DNC.
I need to have an understanding of who Ray Epps is and what he did or didn't do.
There's all these sort of unanswered questions.
I'm not forgiving or apologizing for the violence that was done.
Not for a second.
There were criminal acts done.
I'm not whitewashing that.
But there's more to it, much like the phony FBI kidnapping plot of Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan.
That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
The FBI is extraordinarily good.
They're good at doing things like Setting in motion these kidnap plots of Gretchen Whitmer.
You mean instigating?
Yeah.
I mean, they did it before in 2009.
There's something, a group called the Hutteries in Michigan, where they did the exact same thing.
Like 20 FBI guys recruited 10 morons and set them up into, and then said, oh, look, we found bad guys.
But aren't they too busy hunting all those white supremacists they keep telling us about?
Exactly.
I'm confused.
Why do they have to invent stuff?
- Like they have nothing else to do.
I mean, see, that is the problem.
When you have that kind of mentality, and you put these programs into operation, and everyone says, "Yes, sir," snaps to attention and runs out the room to go do it, that's the problem with the FBI.
You could spend half your time taking apart the FBI.
So, I mean-- - All right, we've got some big, big, big questions to ask.
Let's turn to the piece you sent me most recently.
Outside of Biden and Lisa Monaco, the two people who can get me most angry on a daily basis are, of course, the Secretary of Homeland Security, Mayorkas, and the other one is Mark Milley, that fat, fake general who is obsessed with his whiteness and white rage and who likes to telephone the his equivalent in the Chinese Communist Army and tell them, don't worry, if President Trump does anything crazy, I'll give you a heads up.
So talk to us about what you'd like to have done in a serious oversight fashion with regards to the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Yeah, so the Army has an affirmative obligation to police itself, and especially with regard to official misconduct by senior officers.
And so the chief of staff of the Army, or another general court-martial convening authority in Washington, D.C., the Washington Military District, really needs to impanel on an Article 32 hearing, which is the military equivalent of a grand jury.
And present evidence about what Milley's done.
I believe there's grounds to court-martial him.
Based upon his own admission in interviews?
Correct.
And he's cooperating with journalists who write books and giving them copies of transcripts of things.
He's giving them transcripts of his conversations that in federal court he's fighting Judicial Watch to not provide.
So there's your accountability for you.
The other thing Milley did, and I'm not sure if he has a direct hand in this or not, but there's recently been another open letter, whenever you hear open letter in Washington, look over your shoulder, right?
An open letter of, I think it's eight former secretaries of defense and five former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs, and they're saying we're in a very unusual civil military operating environment now.
And it's an interesting letter because it's sort of like a civics lesson.
There's a general discussion about the relationship between the military and civilians and the military subordinate.
So a lot of it's kind of mom, dad, apple pie, non-controversial, 101 civics kind of thing.
Something you'd give a first year ROTC cadet or a West Point cadet.
But then they have all these enumerated points, and in a few of them, it's really quite contradictory what they're saying.
There's this hint that, well, you know, we have these people that are causing trouble in the country, and they're a threat to the Constitution.
Realize this open letter came out five days after Biden's speech in Philadelphia.
And they talk about how, you know, there may be unusual circumstances that come up in the next, you know, between now and the next general election.
It's a creepy letter, right?
So you'll remember there was supposedly an open letter to the Justice Department that resulted in them going after parents as terrorists.
Which had been actually written in collusion with the White House.
Before that, during the election, you had these 51 intelligence experts come out and tell you in an open letter, oh, Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation.
Turns out it was worse than they ever thought it was, right?
So we've been lied to by intelligence experts about Hunter Biden's laptop.
We've been lied to about education experts, about the relationship of parents threatening school board members, and the FBI needs to go after them because they're terrorists, right?
Another open letter advocacy thing.
And now we have an open letter from these defense officials warning us about the civil-military relationship and what really needs to happen.
This is creepy stuff.
It is.
It's signaling and telegraphing.
It's preparation of the battlefield.
It is exactly what it is.
No one's going to pay attention to it until somebody points it out and says, oh, we talked about this months ago.
Why aren't you prepared for this?
Didn't you know?
All of our leading experts said so.
You know, take caution.
Caveat emptor.
There's a problem here.
And it's a very, very, very dark signal.
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Last question, and you've not seen any of these because we don't give them to our guests, we don't rehearse them.
What's it like to be Chris Farrell after you've worn the uniform of the U.S.
Army, you've taken the oath, you've served this nation, you've worked with the FBI on, I don't know, hundreds of occasions.
What's it like to live in America now and see these things like Mar-a-Lago, like the Hauk raid?
How do you deal with that as somebody who wore the cloth of the Republic?
I'm being generous or kind when I say that it's creepy, you know.
I'm never disheartened, though.
You know, I have hope.
Capital H hope.
And I know, as a good friend of mine, an elderly Anglican priest turned to me one day.
We were discussing all these troubles we face.
He goes, let me cut to the end.
God wins.
We've already won.
Yeah, I know that we are victorious and so I have full faith and confidence in that.
But along the way there's challenges and fights and things.
And is, because this is what Judicial Watch does every day, but in the final analysis we talk of centers of gravity and culminating effects and all that other jargon.
Can we drain the swamp, Chris Farrell?
We can.
We can.
In fact, we have an obligation to.
Correct.
It's beyond just, you know, wishful thinking and intention.
We have an affirmative obligation to do so, and not doing so really would be our negligence, right?
It would be our... it would hang on us.
It would be a dark stain against our honor and integrity to not do something, so we have to.
And your message after 2020, what you've called the coup d'etat, what is your message to those, we've got 3 million listeners, what do you say to those who say, that's it, I've given up, they've stolen the republic, what do you say to them?
They're wrong.
They're 100% wrong.
In fact, the burden and obligation has doubled.
Perhaps, you know, 50-fold, but we have a duty and an obligation to fight our absolute hardest, to be involved and active and motivated, to support the Constitution, to defend the Constitution, to stand up for the Constitution, not let them take it away.
They're not, they drape themselves in this phony baloney, you know, righteousness Look, I've taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
There's no expiration date on it, right?
Yeah.
And that's what I'm going to do.
And, you know, there's a lawful, constitutional way to press forward and to win fair and square, and that's what we're going to do.
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