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June 9, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Are you ready for the January 6th clown show?

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	That man is the President of the United States.
	Yucking it up on a late-night quote-unquote comedy show with a man who's famous for doing blackface.
	Yes, Jimmy Kimmel.
	And the interview wasn't about the lack of baby formula in America, the caravans of thousands of illegal aliens marching towards the border, After a year of two million of them successfully getting into the country and being given cell phones paid for by you and plane tickets to wherever they want to go.
	Or war in Europe.
	Or the price of gas.
	No, none of that.
	Instead it was a cringe-worthy fest of Well, look at this simple clip where Jimmy Kimmel does his best to try and help out an individual who clearly just doesn't have the mental capacity to do so.
	Cut five from Jimmy Kimmel, Mr. Blackface.
	That's my mistake.
	That's a clip we're going to discuss with one of our guests later in the day.
	Cut three is the cringe-worthy lack of train of thought and the assistance provided by the court jester.
	policing.
	It's time to get on with doing that.
	That's my mistake.
	That's a clip we're going to discuss with one of our guests later in the day.
	Cut three is the cringe with the lack of train of thought and the assistance provided by the court jester.
	Play cut.
	So there's a lot of major things we've done.
	But what we haven't done is we haven't been able to communicate it in a way that is uh, um, Make me say it another way.
	Well, see, that's kind of perfect.
	Yeah, I've been able to communicate it.
	But look how the press has changed.
	Look how the press has changed.
	It has changed.
	Oh, listen, I get it.
	I know you get it.
	You overstand it.
	You don't just understand it.
	You overstand it.
	But here's the deal.
	One of the things is that it's very difficult now to have a Even with notable exceptions, even the really good reporters, they have to get a number of clicks on the nightly news.
	So instead of asking a question... Anyway, it's just everything gets sensationalized in ways that... But I'm convinced we can get through this.
	We have to get through it.
	And one of the things, look... I'm going to take a break and then we'll talk a little bit more if you don't mind.
	I don't blame you.
	It's like having your senile old granddad on national television.
	Yeah, that's perfect.
	That thing you just forgot, that senile moment, that brain fart, that's perfect.
	And the second one, oh, the third one you just had, let me save you by going to a break.
	And play it as B-roll if you can, Eric.
	And there's one thing, I don't know, Mr. G, did you actually watch all of this?
	I know your job is to, you know, take the bullets for me.
	Did you watch the whole of the Kimmel interview?
	Yeah, that wasn't taking bullets, though.
	I enjoyed it.
	I was looking forward to watching.
	I re-watched it today on YouTube.
	But not only that, the one line in there that he landed was wrong.
	They all want clicks on the nightly news.
	I don't want clicks on nightly news!
	How does a reporter get clicks, Geoff?
	Yeah, how's the Newsmax show?
	How's that do with nightly clicks?
	Are you doing good with that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm so worried about our click rate on cable TV.
	But freeze it there.
	Freeze it there, Eric.
	That is not a good angle.
	Jeff, look at that.
	I mean, you are the hair police of the show, okay?
	You are the person who makes sure that we are all coiffed properly.
	That angle.
	Who approved that angle?
	Is that Jean-Pierre, the press secretary?
	That massive bald patch.
	That is not good.
	That's not a good look, Jeff.
	I don't even think they get into the optics because they're so afraid of what he's going to say.
	Seriously, I think that's the least of your worries.
	I mean, that is a terrible optic, but that's the least of your worries with him.
	Alright, we have to laugh.
	Or do we?
	Because what happens tonight...
	Tonight is the Dog & Pony Show, produced by an ABC TV executive.
	I hope he's going to get the clicks on the show tonight as they air the first public hearing.
	Mr. G, what do you think?
	Is it going to be a massive audience for the January 6th committee tonight?
	No, I don't think so.
	I just think your normal people that love it, that still believe in the J6, that talk about it every day like they have, they're going to tune in.
	Anybody, I think, even in the middle, has moved on from that.
	Yeah.
	So we have some great cuts from the likes of Mark Levin, Dan Bendrino.
	I don't buy it.
	And my bosses here at Salem are so cool that they don't buy it either.
	They understand we're here for a mission.
	We're here to fight for the truth against the liars.
	So...
	We'll talk about people on other radio stations.
	We don't care whether it's Cumulus, whether it's Sirius XM or what have you, because if they're good guys, and the great one Mark Levin and Dan Bongino are good guys, then we will celebrate them and we will talk about the things they're talking about.
	Especially if they're people like Mark, who served in the Department of Justice as the Chief of Staff in the Reagan administration, Or if they're Dan Bongino, who served in the NYPD, served in the Secret Service, having to defend, having to protect people like the Clintons.
	Wow, that's got to be a hard, that's got to be a hardship post.
	But tonight, tonight America will see the Democrat Party for what they are and what they have become.
	It's just another version of what we witnessed yesterday on the Mr. Blackface show.
	America is in trouble.
	Just the prices of milk, of eggs, of formula, if you can find it, of diesel oil, of gasoline.
	But is there one hearing?
	Don't forget, they run the House.
	They run the Senate.
	Have you?
	I know you're politically informed.
	You listen to this show, you listen to my other Salem colleagues.
	Have you seen in the last 18 months a public hearing?
	Just a regular hearing.
	It doesn't have to be televised live on cable TV.
	Have you seen a hearing on the formula disaster?
	Why the federal government under Biden shut down one factory that produces 40% of the baby formula for America.
	Based upon a charge that was never proven against that supplier.
	Which would create a crisis of their own admission that they knew about in March.
	No, not one.
	Have we held a hearing not on why January 6th resulted in people being politically persecuted and Ashley Babbitt, yes say her name Nancy, Ashley Babbitt being murdered by officer Michael Byrd, an unarmed 14-year Air Force veteran, a slip of a woman.
	No, nothing.
	No investigation into the fact that my former boss, President Trump, offered the National Guard to protect Congress lest there be some untoward event during the certification of the Electoral College, but she refused that.
	Or an investigation into why there were police officers allowing demonstrators into the building Or who Ray Epps is, or the tower commander, the protester at the top of the scaffolding, who was screaming, we're in, we're in, we've breached it.
	We don't even know who that person is.
	And Ray Epps, who was filmed the day before the incursion, screaming, we're going to take it, we're going to storm the Congress.
	Why is he not in solitary confinement?
	Why hasn't he been threatened with felony convictions?
	I think you know the answer.
	Because it's not about the truth.
	It's not about a real hearing, if it were.
	There would be real Republicans on that committee, and not fake never-Trumpers like Kinzinger and Cheney.
	The only reason it's happening is rule-naked power.
	And we're here to stop them.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	How long was he on there for total?
	I think it was about 15 minutes or something that I watched.
	I don't know.
	They broke it up once.
	Can you play cut 10?
	Cut 10.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Like, seriously, what is it with these people?
	All abortion protesters are terrifyingly ugly, man.
	Like seriously, what is it with these people? - All right, cut one.
	- Hey Matt, are you there? - Cut one, go ahead. - Well I have issued executive orders within the power of the presidency to be able to deal with these, everything having to do with guns, gun ownership, whether or not you have to have a waiting, all the things are within my power.
	But what I don't want to do, and I'm not being facetious, I don't want to emulate Trump's abuse of the Constitution and the Constitutional Clarity.
	And so, and I mean that sincerely because I often get asked, Look, the Republicans don't play it square.
	Why do you play it square?
	Well, guess what?
	If we do the same thing they do, our democracy will literally be in jeopardy.
	And before that, they were talking about how Trump used to hand out executive orders like candy.
	Didn't Biden, like, set the record?
	He did.
	He set the record.
	Four, please.
	Yeah.
	When you have sensitive documents that you need to flush down the toilet, do you do that, is that done in your office toilet, or is that done in the bathroom, in the personal bathroom area?
	Oh, I call Trump.
	Alright, um, and quickly, uh, cut eight.
	The most dangerous place in America right now for a minority is to be surrounded by rich liberals.
	White liberals.
	I'm not kidding.
	If you look at the Bowdoin vote count, it was only rich white liberals who could afford their own security guards and security systems who voted to keep him in office.
	It was minorities who voted his ass out.
	That is the most dangerous place in America for minorities is to be surrounded by white liberals.
	Get away from these people like Snake Plissken.
	Escape from New York as quick as you can.
	Love it.
	He loves his movies.
	Hey, Matt.
	Yep.
	How we doing?
	Doing great, Dr. G. How are you?
	Good.
	You ready for the greatest show on Earth tonight?
	I know.
	Nice connection.
	Great sound.
	All right.
	Jeff, it's the 50th anniversary of Watergate.
	Jim Rosen says he can come on to discuss it.
	Let's get him next week in studio.
	All right.
	Yeah, let's do a one-on-one.
	Maybe also one-on-one with Black.
	I'm sure Lord Black would love to talk about that.
	We could, but let's have Jim first.
	It's been a while, yeah.
	Forty seconds.
	Uh, title for that monologue?
	Um... I don't know anything about it.
	about it.
	All right.
	Close one here, Guy.
	Thank you.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Incredible.
	Thanks to all of you listeners and social media followers.
	I've just been DM'd this story from the Daily Mail.
	Incredible.
	Just before the circus that begins tonight with the January 6th committee live show, the FBI has arrested a Republican candidate For Governor in Michigan, Ryan Kelly, for quote, storming the Capitol on January 6th and served a search warrant against him.
	That was yesterday in Michigan in his home.
	This is the primary race that would end up seeing somebody challenge Governor Gretchen Whitmer, of course.
	the individual who they said was the victim of a kidnap plot that in fact was generated by the FBI.
	What should we expect from all of this and especially tonight's show?
	Let's check in with none other than the Washington bureau chief of the most influential conservative news site on the planet.
	It is Breitbart.com and he is Matt Boyle.
	Matt, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure.
	Glad to be here.
	All right.
	So here's the big question.
	We know what they're going to do.
	There's going to be the usual selective quotes, misrepresentation.
	We know what they're not going to do.
	They're not going to show the clip of President Trump that we will play later, where he said, we are going to do our duty, and we're going to march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol.
	So we know what they're not going to do.
	We know how they're going to distort it.
	But it is a midterm election year.
	So here's the big question, and you are the right person to ask.
	Will this help them politically?
	Will the needle move for the Democrats in any constituency based upon tonight's clown show?
	Well, they certainly hope so.
	Look, here's the deal.
	The way I look at it is this is going to be a three-ring circus tonight.
	Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, step right up, get your tickets for the greatest show on earth.
	I mean, that's what they're doing.
	They're literally putting together political theater, if there ever was one, and it's out of desperation.
	The New York Times literally admitted it in a headline earlier this week when they said that this is an effort for them to try to reset the general, for the general election.
	They're losing on every single other issue.
	Speaking of the great state of Michigan, I have a headline here.
	This is from one of our friends at another outlet, The Blaze, that I just saw just moments ago.
	Michigan sheriff forced to limit in-person deputy responses because record high gas prices depleted the fuel budget.
	So not only do we have record high gas prices every day for the last 12 days, I think it is, Not only that, but now their gas price hikes, because of Joe Biden, it's not Putin's price hike, it's Biden's price hike, have now in effect defunded the police!
	So the cops aren't coming when you call 911 because Joe Biden hiked the price of gas so high by destroying President Trump's energy policies.
	The border's wide open.
	There's not a single issue that they're winning on.
	Everything.
	They have failed in every respect.
	So we understand how they hope it will go, but let's flip that.
	If people who aren't really otherwise addicted to politics and just want to live their lives, if they see That this is what the Democrats who control the House and the Senate are spending precious time on, however many hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars spent already, when they're not talking about baby formula, when they're not talking about inflation or gas prices.
	Do you think it could actually backfire and get people politically engaged on the right who say, this is a waste of our time and money?
	Yes.
	So, by the way, I have some statistics from the House Republicans that our reporters are working on right now.
	The House Administration Committee Republicans have put together the cost of this committee.
	It's several million dollars.
	Several million taxpayer dollars that they've wasted on this Hollywood production.
	But the fact of the matter is, by the way, I asked that same question to Elise Stefanik last Saturday.
	I had her on the show where she was laying out the plans for the Republicans to counter-program on this whole thing.
	I think that this being in prime time is now going to awaken people who aren't maybe as in tune as you or I.
	Or many of your listeners and our readers at Breitbart.
	And they're going to now see just how much of a failure the Democrats are, because the Democrats are now parading their failure in front of the American public.
	So they can hire all the television producers in the world that they want to.
	I mean, look, I don't know, are they going to bring out like white striped tigers and lions and stuff and people jumping through hoops tonight?
	The American public has seen all this stuff.
	There's nothing new, right?
	So what's going to happen – by the way, if there was new stuff and there was new evidence, that would be a different story, but there isn't.
	They've beat this thing like a dead horse for over a year and a half now, and the American public is not moved.
	by it.
	What they are moved by is the things that matter than them on a daily basis, the gas prices, the economy, the inflation, the border, their job prospects, et cetera.
	And the, the, the Democrats are, are, are frankly in a really tough place here going into the midterm elections.
	We could be headed for a red wave.
	Unlike anything we've seen in a century and in 80 years, right?
	Like we've never seen anything like what might be coming in November.
	Uh, And the Democrats are trying every last desperate ploy to try to grasp onto power.
	You're 100% right that it's all about power.
	It's all about power and it's all about the elections, but what about the person we haven't mentioned?
	How will this affect President Trump when this show goes live tonight?
	You know, I don't think it affects that at all.
	I just don't think that this is going to move the needle in any respect, any which way at all.
	I think that people are going to be mostly tuning it out.
	The average American out there is focused on, you know, whatever they're doing for the summer right now and trying to go on summer vacation when they can't do it because Joe Biden costs them too much in gas bills.
	So, do you really think that there's going to be record high viewership nationwide?
	I think it's going to be a total flop.
	I think they're going to fail in every respect.
	Then they're going to go back to the daytime hearings.
	They'll do a few of those.
	And then guess what?
	They'll come up with another charade in about a month.
	This is not going to work for them.
	And they're not that bright at how they do it either.
	We've seen this movie before.
	We saw it with Impeachment.
	A good example of this is what Elise Stefanik said.
	When they did the impeachment behind closed doors in the Star Chamber, remember Adam Schiff in the basement of the Capitol?
	That's when it had the most support.
	Once they moved out into the public hearings and into the public, then everybody turned against them and sided with Trump on it, right?
	So very, very similar here in that the more that the public sees just how bad they are, the better it is for those of us who believe in America First.
	Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it that once it comes out into the sunlight then you have the best disinfectant and people can see it for what it is.
	Super busy day for Matt Boyle.
	We're gonna let him get back to work.
	Take your calls next year but make sure You follow all of his coverage.
	Go to brightbart.com.
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	Okay.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Any titles in mind?
	Monologue and or that.
	The J6 committee will fail tonight.
	J6 committee will fail tonight.
	And then for the mono... Something about Kavanaugh?
	Biden and Jimmy quotes blackface Kimmel.
	Jimmy blackface Kimmel.
	Trump's appearance was much better on Kimmel.
	Oh, the one where he's, with his hair?
	No, that was Fallon.
	No, the one where, it's when he was running.
	They actually wrote a children's book that he read, like, that's supposed to be his, like, trying to make fun of him, and it was hilarious.
	I would buy it for my kid, I wish it was a real children's book.
	I remember there was one interview he did with Colbert that was, like, surprisingly, like, like, like, positive towards him, before the election, when Colbert actually was not giving him crap.
	Can I hear six and seven?
	Playback one, go ahead.
	Never in American history, except maybe the Salem witch trials, have we had a court of law or, more recently, a congressional hearing with just one side.
	Just one side.
	The purpose of a hearing is to get information, not to put on a Hollywood spectacle.
	But the media are all in, and we know what we're going to get.
	My advice?
	Boycott them.
	Boycott them.
	So, a couple of things about this.
	And, by the way, why are there 11, I'm told, federal prosecutors on the staff of this committee?
	The Constitution is separation of powers.
	The executive branch handles criminal investigations.
	Why are there 11, or whatever the hell the number is, former federal prosecutors on this committee?
	What, to violate the Bill of Rights and the rights of those people who are called in to testify?
	Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here.
	This is not a clown show.
	This is a Stalinist show trial.
	Chuck, were you inciting violence?
	Were you promoting violence, Chuck?
	If you're accusing Trump of doing this, who never said anything violent, then we have to conclude that Chuck was signaling the mob.
	He was signaling the mob to act.
	And later, he would say he wants people to protest the justices.
	And Nancy Pelosi said it, too.
	Well, you know what that means?
	They assisted in criminal activity.
	We all know about 18 United States Code 1507.
	You're not allowed to parade and protest and threaten and hassle judicial individuals, particularly Supreme Court justices, and threaten them the way they did.
	Psaki did it.
	Schumer did it.
	Pelosi did it.
	Are they going to be indicted, Mr. Garland?
	In fact, Mr. Garland hasn't indicted a single person who's violated a federal statute.
	Not one.
	How about them in handcuffs and leg irons, Mr. Garland?
	What do you say?
	These are federal violations.
	And I haven't heard a damn thing from Liz Cheney tonight.
	Have you, Sean?
	Has she put out a statement condemning Nancy Pelosi?
	Condemning Schumer?
	The Democrat Party!
	Every damn one of them!
	And their Democrats in the media!
	They all said the same thing Schumer did!
	Uh, come in with ten.
	Come in with ten.
	No liner.
	Okay.
	Get clips on ready. - Don't forget to use camera two.
	Oh, do you want me to find the Trump March Peacefully?
	Please.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Keep your rosaries off my ovaries?
	Those are the ugly, ugly people protesting outside Justice Kavanaugh's home yesterday, the same day that a crazed Democrat from Simi Valley, California was arrested outside his home in possession of a Glock, a knife, a crowbar, and zip ties.
	Why aren't these people being arrested?
	And here's the more important thing.
	What kind of human being, I don't care what political identity you have, goes to the home of someone who has been targeted for assassination the same day that that assassin has been arrested?
	That's how truly perverse these people are.
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	Okay, let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Derek Cleveland, line two.
	Welcome.
	Hey, thank you, Dr. G. So, when you were talking about the camera angle, showing the lack of hair on Our president's head.
	It just reminded me of Rush Limbaugh.
	He was the master of nicknames.
	And Joe Biden has been immortalized as Plugs.
	Oh, Plugs, yes!
	Plugs Biden.
	Every time he referred to him, it was Plugs Biden.
	And of course, Chuck U. Schumer.
	Always Chuck U. Schumer.
	Mitch McConnell will always be the turtle.
	Mitch McConnell.
	Yeah, I'm so glad you reminded me, Derek.
	That's so good.
	We need to play some more cuts from Rush.
	So, Mr. G, let's have some evergreen cuts, especially the one where he said, we never give up, we never give in.
	But Derek, thank you for reminding me about plugs, Biden.
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	Let's go to California.
	Kathy, welcome aboard.
	Hi, Seb.
	I'm a longtime listener.
	Love your show.
	Thank you.
	I would love somebody to talk about the busloads, hundreds and hundreds of people on January 6th that were dropped off at the Capitol.
	They were all in dark clothing, black clothing.
	The week before, I am just a lowly old conservative, kept hearing that there was going to be Antifa and bad actors.
	I don't know how they didn't know about it.
	So hang on, did you see busloads of people clad in black or are you hearing this?
	No, I saw it!
	I watched it from the moment they put it on the air, you know, January 6th.
	And I think it was a mistake by either... I'm sure it was a mistake by Fox, because they have never, ever replayed it again.
	And I watch Fox every day.
	Sorry.
	Um, because I want to know what's going on.
	And I watched AON until it was taken off by DirecTV.
	Well, your big mistake, Kathy, is that you're not watching Newsmax.
	I do watch it.
	I taped everything.
	It was on, I watched it, I watched it, and I want to know, find out please, what happened to any of that news coverage?
	Alright, we will look into it, but for the meantime, Pitchfox, just look how they gushed over Matthew McConaughey, just absolutely disgusting how they called Arizona before anybody else in 2020.
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	Mike's on.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Okay.
	Did we get him a t-shirt?
	Yeah, I got his address now.
	I'm sending it to Randy.
	Alright, now we're calling up our guest.
	Oh, do you want to record the liner?
	Hang on, let's kill the audio and get M1 ready.
	M1.
	M3, sorry, yeah.
	Go ahead, take it.
	Is it recording?
	Is the audio recording?
	He's got the collar on the line.
	One second.
	Okay, just wait.
	Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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	All right.
	Can I record the liner?
	Ah, yeah.
	Turn the audio.
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	Sebastian Gorka.
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	Today that sponsor is Versity Investments and the guest is Brian Nelson.
	Mr. Nelson, welcome to America First!
	Oh, thank you so much.
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	So, explain to us the role of a sponsor.
	So, Cornerstone does these 1031 investments into amazing real estate, but you have a special role to play.
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	It's a fantastic exit strategy for highly appreciated equity that helps people get out of property management.
	So let me try and explain as the neophyte who's very excited in this Delaware Statutory Trust System, the 1031, why I find it so attractive.
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	If you're invested in that property through Cornerstone with you as a sponsor, if you reinvest it in like property, then you don't get hit by the taxman.
	So that is incredibly attractive.
	Will you talk to us about your expectations for the future?
	Everybody remembers what happened in 2008.
	How safe or how solid is your expectation that multifamily home student accommodations will always be needed?
	What a great question.
	You know, we've known Cornerstone since 2005.
	So we've been working together with them for 17 years.
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	Because we're helping people avoid paying taxes on well-deserved hard-earned equity positions.
	But what we see, what we saw the Great Recession with student housing.
	If you look at college enrollment over the last four decades, prior to the pandemic, you saw almost no correlation to economic cycles or real estate markets.
	You saw college enrollment increasing year after year, decade after decade.
	People are going to go to school regardless of what's happening.
	In fact, during the next recession, they're going to go to school even more And so what we're trying to do with student housing is find a way where real estate can benefit by leveraging the historical stability of a major university, one of the most stable institutions in the world.
	And people think when I say the phrase tax shelter or a 100% tax deferral that this is only something that, you know, millionaires or billionaires can access.
	Is this true?
	Not at all.
	In fact, that's really the whole angle here with the DST concept.
	The minimum investment is only $25,000.
	So people can actually have fractional interest in institutional grade, institutional quality investments at just a small amount.
	So this is a way people can access the 1031 exchange, which I believe is one of the greatest tax deferral wealth accumulation strategies out there.
	Probably the only area outside an IRA where you could defer capital gains taxes indefinitely.
	So it's a fantastic strategy, but the whole idea is making it accessible to middle class, just regular people.
	All right, I'm going to give you, you know, the idiot's guide, everybody out there.
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	We, just this little show, has generated hundreds and hundreds of people Finding more, ringing up Cornerstone Financial.
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	And we have been talking to the president of Versity Investments, a sponsor with Cornerstone, Mr. Brian Nelson.
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	Mr. Nelson?
	Yeah.
	That was great.
	Then I'm going to go to Kohl's.
	Here's some mules and then calls.
	You got it.
	Oh, can you find at the top of the hour the tweet that got Ilya Shapiro suspended from Georgetown?
	The one about the Supreme Court?
	Let me see.
	It was about the Supreme Court.
	It was about, yeah, that Biden's picking based on race.
	Oh boy.
	Was it recent or was that a while ago?
	That's gotta be in the article.
	It was in like one or two days ago.
	Can you send me that article, Geoff?
	Just look for it.
	It's like Tuesday.
	Just Google it.
	it's everywhere yeah get close on ready What was that, Eric?
	Nothing.
	Alright, so you'll do a Vimeo clip on that?
	Yes.
	Thanks.
	Come on, Max.
	responds to the strangest things.
	Here's a tweet by somebody called Daniel Crosby.
	He said, I used to drink tons of Diet Coke, but it's been one month since I haven't had a drop.
	I want to share some of the changes I've observed.
	My health is unchanged.
	I'm less happy.
	My one source of joy is gone.
	What does Elon Musk do?
	He responds by saying, Diet Coke is amazing, especially the soda fountain version at movie theaters with salt and butter popcorn.
	And he's got 9,000 likes.
	By the way, the news earlier today that Elon Musk is in negotiations to buy OAN News, apparently Mr. Herring, the owner of OAN, who tweeted that out, I guess you must be talking to another Elon Musk, as Elon said.
	Nope!
	It's not true.
	One movie you need to see with popcorn and the drink of your choice is, of course, 2000 Mules.
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	Back to your calls.
	Dave, Pennsylvania, Line 1.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	I just wanted to say these protests are about to ramp up.
	You know, they were in their safe space last year.
	2020, the summer, we all know what that was about.
	That was getting Trump booted out of office.
	But schools are out right now, which means the teachers have time on their hands.
	The vast majority of these alphabet mafia types are school teachers, and they can't wait to get out and protest for their ovaries.
	For their ovaries, yes, especially the men.
	I completely agree, Dave.
	It is going to get much, much worse, and it's going to get nasty.
	So buckle up, America.
	Mark Lancaster, PA.
	Welcome aboard, Mark.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey, my wife would be thrilled that I talked to you tonight.
	Well, why isn't she on the line?
	She's working.
	What?
	You're having fun while your wife is working?
	What's going on here?
	I'm unemployed.
	I was in a car accident.
	I can't work anymore.
	Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
	What's your wife's name?
	What's your wife's first name?
	Wife's name is Gwen.
	Alright, stay on the line after we talk and we'll send both you and her a signed copy of my latest book.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment, Mark?
	I was wondering, how come Chuck U. Schumer was not charged with terroristic threat to Gorsuch and Kavanaugh?
	I think I know the answer, but why not?
	Why?
	Because his body, that little...
	Shadow of a non-man Merrick Garland is the Attorney General and he's happy that people are walking up to Kavanaugh's home.
	It is an organized crime cartel from the DHS to CIA to the FBI.
	It has become a Stasi-like institution.
	It is the politicization of the most powerful government in the world.
	And we need to set it straight.
	How?
	By taking back America.
	It's up to us.
	Every single person listening to this show has to run for local office.
	If my wife can do it, who hates politics, guess what?
	So can you.
	Stay on the line, my friend.
	We're going to get you signed copies of my latest book for you and your bride.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Don't touch that dial. Don't touch that
	dial. Don't touch
	that dial. Don't
	touch that dial.
	Don't touch that
	dial. Don't touch that dial.
	Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
	This is not grandma out walking her dog.
	Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
	This is organized crime.
	Do you have video evidence?
	Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
	What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
	Two Thousand Mules.
	In select theaters May 2nd and 4th.
	Virtual premiere May 7th.
	Stream May 8th at Salem Now or Locals.
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	Come in with six Guys.
	Guys.
	Never in American history, except maybe the Salem witch trials, have we had a court of law or, more recently, a congressional hearing with just one side.
	Just one side.
	The purpose of a hearing is to get information, not to put on a Hollywood spectacle.
	But the media are all in, and we know what we're going to get.
	My advice?
	Boycott them.
	Boycott them.
	So, a couple of things about this.
	And, by the way, why are there 11, I'm told, federal prosecutors on the staff of this committee?
	The Constitution is separation of powers.
	The executive branch handles criminal investigations.
	Why are there 11, or whatever the hell the number is, former federal prosecutors on this committee?
	What, to violate the Bill of Rights and the rights of those people who are called in to testify?
	Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here.
	This is not a clown show.
	This is a Stalinist show trial.
	It's hard to disagree with the Great One.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, former Chief of Staff of the Department of Justice during the Reagan Administration, a man who knows his Constitution, who knows the separation of powers.
	And why is it that there are almost a dozen, almost a dozen federal prosecutors, federal investigators, On the legislatures, the Congress's illegal January 6th committee.
	And yes, I said illegal, because it is.
	You cannot have a committee of the Congress that does not have members of both elected parties.
	The Republicans gave their list of members.
	Kevin McCarthy, Told them that Jim Jordan and others should be on that committee.
	Those names were rejected, and Nancy Pelosi placed her lapdogs, the fake Republicans, Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney.
	Therefore, it is an illegitimate committee, and federal investigators are working on it.
	Then we have no separation of church and state.
	He's absolutely right.
	I know it's the A Block.
	We have so much to discuss.
	Latest studies.
	Shocking studies from the hate group that is the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	But she called in yesterday and she was running, running to execute a special mission because the bat signal had gone off.
	It is Thursday, so we welcome her back.
	Antoinette, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. G, so very much.
	So remind everybody what you did yesterday.
	You called in from your vehicle.
	What had happened and what had you been asked to do?
	One of our other girls that we are Voice for the Voiceless got a text from another of our Voice for the Voiceless that was at the Orange County Register's office.
	We needed to get other observers there as they're counting the votes.
	And she was saying that there were all these Democrats and only two of us as conservative Republicans there.
	So right away, they sent out the text.
	We all saw the text, dropped everything, and we rushed over there.
	So that's what I did yesterday.
	In arriving at the Orange County Register's office, it's the building there for voters at 1300 South Grand Avenue there in Santa Ana, California, which is in Orange County, California, you have to sign a piece of paper as becoming an observer as they're looking at all the ballots.
	And as they're counting these ballots that are the mail-in ballots, as well as military ballots, and any ballots that got stuck in the machines, or for some other reason, they've written in a write-in vote.
	You know what, Dr. G?
	I'll tell you.
	There were, and there's some where they're looking at these ballots, And there are some that have a screen, so you're watching people as they're taking from the original ballots to put it on the now new scanned ballot paper.
	It was depressing.
	It was sad.
	There were mistakes.
	Oh my goodness.
	So it was, you know, is this 2022 or are we back in the early 1900s?
	So explain what you were saying.
	So you're seeing mistakes on ballots and were they being quote-unquote fixed?
	No, no.
	But what you have to do is this.
	There were two other people next to me as we're looking at the screen, as we're watching these people correcting and transferring the information from the original ballots to now to the duplicate ballots.
	There were mistakes.
	And I didn't know these two people next to me, but they were there just like me, and we each gave each other's name.
	Now, you're not allowed to take a picture or anything like that or use your phone in there.
	So what we did is You have to also, which we weren't told, but you're handed a 52-page book as an observer, and we need people over there, more, from 8 in the morning until 5, if you're there an hour or a couple.
	But what we have to do is fill out a card, which is called a challenging card.
	There's a number on top of each ballot when you're looking at it on the monitor.
	And then you put your name, your number, the address, and then you have to hand this little card that says challenges to this person that's behind this rope area where these people are doing these ballots and give it to them.
	So now they're going to go and go through it and check your vote, the vote, if it was done correctly.
	But two other people next to me that we did not know each other, but now we do, we saw this, the mistakes that were going on there.
	And I didn't mean to cry there.
	I waited till I got into my car, shocked.
	Shocked!
	What really is going on?
	But I'm kind of losing the point here because I'm not getting a clear picture of what you witnessed.
	So you tried to challenge things or you didn't challenge things or nothing happened.
	So be as precise as you can Antoinette.
	What did you witness and what did you conclude at the end of the day when you went there to help?
	We witnessed mistakes.
	We handed our challenge card.
	There's a card that says challenges.
	You guys need to, and we give it to the official that's behind the rope with those people that are doing this work.
	And then what happened?
	So we give them the card.
	They say, they'll go back at the end of the day, look up that vote and make sure that that person that made the mistake to correct it.
	And is anybody there later in the day to actually invigilate the correction?
	You can stay until they get the chance to do it, if you want.
	So, you know, you're only there for so many hours, and so what we did is, some stayed, I had to go, But they won't stop that person, but they'll go back in the file to see.
	And I'm sorry, because I'm so upset as to what I observe, that the mistakes that are going on at our voting... When you say a mistake, give me an example.
	What are you talking about?
	Somebody puts the tally in the wrong column?
	What is a mistake?
	A mistake is the following.
	Here's the original ballot.
	It's a photocopy with numbers and things on it.
	That person's supposed to put from that original into now the new scanned ballot page what that person put.
	So they go over and fill out Why are they translating one ballot to another?
	or whoever that other person is.
	Why are they translating one ballot to another?
	I don't understand that either.
	I'm sorry, because these are the mail-in votes.
	Oh, Antoinette, you've got to start at the beginning.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just so upset about this.
	I apologize.
	I'm not clear.
	Let's just ask one final question, and God bless you for doing what you did yesterday, and that's what everybody needs to do.
	I need to know the genesis of your call yesterday.
	Why did you have to rush and go there?
	Why weren't there enough people to invigilate and be the challengers?
	They don't know that they can do this.
	I think a lot of people don't realize you can be an observer.
	We need everybody that cares in our Orange County for sure and every other place throughout the United States.
	Go to the registrar's building where they are the central place for counting all the votes.
	Tell them you want to be an observer.
	Sign the observer slip.
	They'll give you a booklet and then you go guys and observe and watch what they're doing.
	And organize your guys before the event so you can cover off each other, so you can fill the whole day, so somebody can go back and watch the challenges actually being officiated.
	God bless you Antoinette.
	Thank you for the update.
	Tell us what's happening this weekend, Voice of the Voiceless.
	Uh 10 to 2 now we've extended our hours at 700 South Tustin Avenue there at the Planned Parenthood Tustin Orange and I apologize it's just I'm so upset what I observed at that voters Where our votes are being counted and we're not going to get any results until 30 days and they won't release it till July.
	So how in the hell can they say who won and who lost?
	It's totally Balkan, it's Byzantine, but thank you for doing what you do.
	That is an example to all of you out there.
	Antoinette did it, so can you.
	That's 700 South Towson Avenue, Planned Parenthood.
	A 10 to 2.
	God bless you for everything you do.
	Not just for the unborn, but for the Republic as well.
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	Okay, mics on.
	So I also have the cover of Shapiro's book that came out recently.
	Oh good!
	Supreme Disorder.
	Alright.
	Can I hear Tatum?
	The Prison Fellowship cut?
	Jeff's getting the call real quick.
	Three and a half minutes.
	So you got both tweets?
	Yes.
	They really aren't that controversial, if I'm being honest.
	Well, lesser black woman is a pretty strong phrase.
	Oh.
	Oh, I thought he meant less isn't like fewer.
	Oh, hang on.
	Let me read that again.
	Oh, I see.
	I see.
	Thank you.
	Two and a half.
	You want the mics on with him?
	Off.
	Off.
	Okay.
	Then I'll take care of that over on audio in just a second.
	Two minutes ten.
	I just emailed you the Vimeo links from the last two guests on Vimeo.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Jeff needs to send them.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	He's up now, but Jeff's working on muting the audio real quick.
	No, I mean... No,
	I mean... I mean...
	No, I mean...
	I mean...
	No, I mean...
	I mean...
	No, I mean...
	I mean...
	Sometimes you get a little peek behind the curtain and you see reality for what it really is.
	There is an organization that's very popular with left-wing extremists called the Southern Poverty Law Center and they did a There's been a poll lately of voter attitudes, especially amongst the young or the younger demographic.
	Let's put the image up on the screen, Eric, of the pie chart and the question that was asked.
	It's partisanship and violence.
	And the question put to these voters, Democratic or Republican in different age groups, was the following.
	Do you approve of assassinating a politician Who is harming the country or our democracy, which of course is an utterly subjective statement.
	So do you think assassinating a politician who's harming America is okay?
	Let me read to you the most shocking result.
	Young democratic males were most open to the idea of assassinating politicians with 44% of them saying yes.
	Let me read that again.
	Younger Democratic males agreed their approval for assassinating a politician who they deem to be harming the country or our democracy.
	Is it no doubt then that we witnessed what we witnessed yesterday with a California male traveling with a handgun to the home of the Supreme Court Justice, Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh to Plan to kill him.
	That is the state of politics in America.
	How can we solve it?
	What is the status of the Supreme Court?
	Are we allowed to even discuss it freely as academics?
	Let's ask an individual who's made a very, very tough choice of late.
	He is formerly of Georgetown University's Law Center.
	He's a professor there.
	He is the author, most recently, of Supreme Disorder.
	Good to be on the show.
	And you might not remember, Seb, we first met in the Fox News green room many years ago.
	But yeah, I've been living a roller coaster here because Georgetown Well, I have your sterling article from the Wall Street Journal three days ago.
	The title is, Why I Quit Georgetown, and it discusses the Orwellian-sounding Office of Institutional Diversity, Equity, and Affirmative Action.
	Let's talk about the infamous tweets that allegedly got you in trouble.
	Let's put them up on the screen, Eric.
	So, with the Biden administration getting to nominate a Supreme Court Justice, this was your opinion that you proffered.
	Objectively, the best pick for Biden is Shri Shri Navasan, who is a solid progressive and very smart.
	Even has identity politics benefit of being first Asian, parentheses, Indian American.
	But alas, doesn't fit into latest intersectionality hierarchy, so we'll get lesser black women.
	Thank heaven for small favors.
	You published that tweet January 26.
	What happened to you after that, Professor?
	Yeah, I did that.
	It wasn't the best practice.
	I was late at night in my hotel room.
	I was on a business trip.
	Doomscrolling through Twitter, got upset with Biden being racist and sexist by restricting his Supreme Court of school by race and sex, and tweeted that out.
	Then went to bed.
	By the time I woke up, there was a firestorm on social media.
	People willfully misconstruing what I was saying to mean the exact opposite, to say, to suggest that I was saying that no black woman could ever be qualified for the Supreme Court, which is preposterous.
	And away we went, the outrage machine revved up.
	I was ultimately, this was a few days before I was due to join Georgetown, so I was onboarded and then suspended on paid leave for four months while they investigated whether my tweet violated university anti-harassment and anti-extermination policies until last Thursday.
	It took someone, a lawyer, finally looked at a calendar and determined, since I was not an employee when I tweeted, those policies didn't apply to me.
	Clearly a cop-out, clearly a farce, but that's where we were.
	And in the report that I got from the diversity class, that IDEA agency that you mentioned, it was clear that I could not remain there, that anytime anybody would be offended or claim defense by something I said or wrote.
	I would be disciplined.
	That's not a way one can perform his job or live.
	So you were deemed to be in the clear because you hadn't actually taken up your position.
	You have to wait months and months and months.
	Then you are not reinstated.
	You are instated, I would guess.
	And then you took the decision to just resign, correct?
	That's right.
	Initially, I celebrated even my technical victory on that basic jurisdictional point.
	But after reviewing the report that later hit my email inbox from the Diversicraft, in consultation with my counsel, with trusted advisors, my wife, who's a better lawyer than any of us, it became clear that this was untenable.
	I could not walk on eggshells trying to avoid inadvertent offense, waiting for the other shoe to drop as I was doing my job, commenting on Supreme Court opinions, trying to teach students about sensitive constitutional issues, etc.
	I literally could not do the job for which I was hired, so I had to resign.
	Because the argument is, and I'll go through some of the things you say in your op-ed in our next segment, but the argument is it's a nebulous, subjective standard, and then somebody could say, well, I am offended or I've potentially offended somebody, and then that's it.
	You've lost your job or the whole purgatory starts again. - Okay.
	What the report said and what the dean said in his statement last Thursday was that indeed it was insinuating, well the dean insinuated, the report said explicitly that any such similar statement in future would subject, would create a hostile educational environment and subject me to discipline.
	All right, we're going to continue the discussion with Professor Ilya Shapiro.
	The book is Supreme Disorder Judicial Nominations and the Politics of America's Highest Court.
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	Have you found a way to stabilize the phone?
	Elia Mics are live on video, just so you know.
	I don't have a phone holder.
	But do you have your laptop there?
	I do.
	Because the easiest thing, what I do is I just open up the laptop and I just put the phone here and it just holds it.
	That's my cheat.
	You want me to do this?
	Yeah, perfect.
	That looks great.
	Excellent.
	Yeah, good.
	All right, so we've got a three-minute break and then we'll have you back and it's just seven minutes.
	Can you play me?
	Wonderful.
	You know, I'm an immigrant myself from Russia and then Canada and this whole thing is just such a farce.
	So where were you before?
	Where will you come?
	Where will you come?
	Where will you come?
	Where will you come?
	Where will you come?
	Do you still have a Twitter account or not?
	Sure.
	You do or you don't?
	Sorry, say that again.
	I do.
	I Shapiro.
	I Shapiro.
	Alright, let's put that on the Chiron.
	Yes.
	45.
	Coming in with that audio cut.
	This is the C-segment.
	Alright, 40 seconds.
	All right, kill them, Lex.
	All right, kill them, kill them, Lex. Lex.
	All right, kill them, Lex.
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	We are back with Professor Ilya Shapiro, author of Supreme Disorder and formerly of Georgetown University.
	Full disclosure, I taught as an adjunct on the postgraduate National Security and Foreign Policy course there at Georgetown University.
	I knew it was woke then.
	I didn't know just how woke it was.
	Ilya, I'm going to read two tweets Two comments made by professors at Georgetown University that you included in your article for the Wall Street Journal, and I'd like you to tell us what happened to them, what happened to these professors at the hands of the Office of Institutional Diversity, Equity and Affirmative Action.
	One of them is the rather infamous or rather notorious Carol Christine Fair, who said the following, tweeted this during the confirmation of Justice Kavanaugh.
	Look at this chorus of entitled white men justifying a serial rapist's arrogated entitlement.
	All of them deserve miserable deaths while feminists laugh as they take their last gasps.
	Bonus!
	We castrate their corpses and feed them to the swine.
	That's Professor Christine Fair.
	Also, there is an individual from the law faculty, I believe.
	Let me read this person's comments as well.
	This is Professor Heidi Fieldman of the Law Center, who said, The only ethically and politically responsible stance to take towards the Republican Party is to consistently point out that it is no longer a legitimate participant in the U.S.
	constitutional democracy.
	Did they run afoul of the Office of Diversity, Equity and Affirmative Action, Professor?
	They were not investigated.
	In the case of Professor Fair, the university issued a statement saying that her comments I'm not saying that those professors should be disciplined or punished or investigated in the same way that I was.
	I'm saying that if you have a commitment to academic freedom and free speech, then, sure, criticize those tweets or mine, for that matter.
	But it should not be subject to institutional discipline.
	But, yes, you are showing, as I wrote about in the op-ed and in my four-page resignation letter, the double standard that Georgetown applies.
	I have to ask you, you're clearly an expert on the Constitution, on the Supreme Court.
	We're going to have you in studio for a longer discussion.
	In the meantime, follow this man, iShapiro, on Twitter.
	That's iShapiro.
	Before you were going to join Georgetown, you spent at least a decade or more at the Cato Institute.
	Has Cato stood up for you?
	Have they commented on this First Amendment issue?
	This has been one of the few disappointing things.
	This whole ordeal, I really learned from my friends' work, both in terms of individuals, organizations, allies of various kinds, people who I hadn't talked to in a decade or ever, who made public statements, reached out to me privately, back-paneled to the Dean to tell him that this is preposterous, what the administration of Georgetown is doing.
	But Cato, where I spent nearly 15 years, was completely silent.
	That's disappointing, because they hold themselves out as defenders of freedom of speech, let alone the loyalty.
	Yeah, the loyalty issue is even more important than whatever political stance you say you take.
	Shame on you, Cato.
	We're going to get you back in studio.
	Ilya, what are your plans now?
	Have you found a new home?
	Are you going to continue to speak out on the Constitution and the Supreme Court?
	Absolutely.
	I'm remaining in the arena even more, as I announced on the Tucker Carlson show, as we all do with our professional development Tuesday night.
	I'm joining the Manhattan Institute as its Director of Constitutional Studies.
	Wonderful organization.
	I'm not moving to New York.
	I'm staying in Northern Virginia, but expanding my commentary in various places, amicus briefs to the Supreme Court programs, all the rest of it.
	Very excited.
	They do great work across a broad range of policy issues that I'll be supporting with constitutional analysis, as well as giving my own opinion on the important issues of the day that arise between sport and otherwise national affairs.
	Well, we look forward to hearing from you from your new home at the Manhattan Institute.
	The book is Supreme Disorder.
	You can follow him, I, Shapiro, on Twitter, and we will continue the discussion in studio.
	Be safe, my friend.
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	off to me and Cato did nothing.
	GT came after me, and Cato did nothing.
	Yep.
	Got it.
	Alrighty. Minute 50.
	This is the D segment.
	Don't forget camera two, guy.
	Yeah, camera two, guy.
	Probably gonna do callers this segment, right?
	No.
	Oh.
	Yeah, we've got clips.
	We've got lots of clips.
	Lots of clips.
	Did that guy respond, Jeff, for Second Amendment?
	I haven't asked him yet.
	I'll ask him by the time I get out of here.
	So weird seeing Tulsi Gabbard on Fox now.
	She was on Outnumbered earlier today.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	They're pushing her pretty hard.
	Play cut 11.
	11.
	Go ahead.
	Oh boy.
	How do we get in this mess?
	And part of the answer is because the Republicans have fought for this for a long time.
	They have had a long-term strategy to get one extremist after another onto the Supreme Court.
	And ultimately, of course, stealing a Supreme Court seat, rushing through another Supreme Court nominee.
	Come in with that.
	Coming in with cut 11.
	no liner.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	How did we get in this mess?
	And part of the answer is because the Republicans have fought for this for a long time.
	They have had a long-term strategy to get one extremist after another onto the Supreme Court.
	And ultimately, of course, stealing a Supreme Court seat, rushing through another Supreme Court nominee.
	Why is she so weird, Mr. G?
	What is it with Liz Warren?
	Nothing she says sounds like she actually means it.
	It's just so fake.
	It's just the anger.
	That's all she plays is the anger.
	But it's so fake!
	And why are they so upset?
	They're the party that's in power everywhere.
	What are they so upset about?
	Oh, that's good.
	If the extremists are in the minority, why would you care?
	Don't you have the House?
	Don't you have the Senate?
	Don't you have the cackler to give you the tie-breaking vote?
	And then you've got the senile old dude in the White House?
	Why so angry, Pocahontas?
	Sorry, Focahontas.
	Gotta get it right.
	Yeah, it's so strange.
	It's so peculiar.
	Let's go back to somebody who actually knows of what they speak.
	The January 6th Circus, the Stalinistic Show Trial begins tonight on cable TV.
	And Mark Levin, who's served the Department of Justice honorably, has a question for one of the members, the fake Republican members of that committee, Liz Cheney.
	Cut seven!
	Chuck!
	Were you inciting violence?
	Were you promoting violence, Chuck?
	If you're accusing Trump of doing this, who never said anything violent, then we have to conclude that Chuck was signaling the mob.
	He was signaling the mob to act.
	And later, he would say he wants people to protest the justices.
	And Nancy Pelosi said it, too.
	Well, you know what that means?
	They assisted in criminal activity.
	We all know about 18 United States Code 1507.
	You're not allowed to parade and protest and threaten and hassle judicial individuals, particularly Supreme Court justices, and threaten them the way they did.
	Psaki did it.
	Schumer did it.
	Pelosi did it.
	Are they going to be indicted, Mr. Garland?
	In fact, Mr. Garland hasn't indicted a single person who's violated a federal statute.
	Not one.
	How about them in handcuffs and leg irons, Mr. Garland?
	What do you say?
	These are federal violations.
	And I haven't heard a damn thing from Liz Cheney tonight.
	Have you, Sean?
	Has she put out a statement condemning Nancy Pelosi?
	Condemning Schumer?
	The Democrat Party!
	Every damn one of them!
	And their Democrats in the media!
	They all said the same thing Schumer did!
	Think of that one comparison.
	God bless the great one.
	We have had, again and again and again, from the former attorney for Obama, Eric Holder, say, when they're down, you kick them.
	To Chuck Schumer, saying you will reap the whirlwind.
	Also, it was Chuck Schumer who threatened President Trump, who said the intelligence community has six ways from Sunday to come after you if you challenge them as President of the United States.
	Then we had that delightful lady.
	What's her name from California?
	Maxine Waters.
	What did she say when I was in the White House, when the president, President Trump, was there?
	You see a member of the cabinet, you see a member of that administration in public, you harass them.
	And they did.
	My colleague, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, harassed with her family in public at the Red Rooster restaurant in Virginia.
	Now, show me just one.
	Just one Republican.
	Not some person you've never heard of.
	An actual officer of the administration.
	An actual elected member of Congress or the Senate.
	Even a state house representative.
	Just one who said what these people have.
	Who have actually incited violence.
	And Liz Warren calls us the extremists?
	But who was it who went to that baseball field and stood there with a Glock and an SKS semi-automatic rifle in his back pocket, a hit list of only Republican members of Congress, and then opened fire, not three miles from this studio, and almost killed Steve Scalise.
	The only reason that that political assassin was shot to death and killed was because Steve is a member of the leadership of the GOP and he happened to have just two officers with sidearms from the Capitol Police there to protect him.
	If Scalise hadn't been there, if it had been just Ron Paul who was, if it had been just Ron DeSantis, which it was, They'd probably all be dead right now.
	What about the other extremist who just last night at 2 a.m.
	gets out of a taxi outside the private home in Maryland of Justice Kavanaugh with a duffel bag, with a crowbar, with a knife, with a screwdriver, and not just burglary tools, with a Glock.
	With extra ammunition.
	With what intent?
	We've seen the affidavit filed already just yesterday by the authorities.
	That he wanted to murder Justice Kavanaugh in his home with that Glock because he was going to help birth a pro-Second Amendment decision.
	He went there to kill him with a gun because he was going to help protect the Second Amendment, one of our civil rights.
	And lest you think it was some brave action by the US Marshals By the Secret Service.
	By the Maryland Police.
	Do you know how he was apprehended?
	He gave himself up.
	This Democrat voter from Simi Valley had second thoughts.
	And he went to a payphone and he called the police.
	And he said, I'm here to kill Justice Kavanaugh.
	Clearly not a man in full control of his faculties.
	But what if he hadn't had a second thought?
	What if he'd broken into that home and killed Justice Kavanaugh and his wife and his child?
	Who are the real extremists in America?
	There's one extremist party and it's the same party that gave us John Wilkes Booth Gave us Lee Harvey Oswald.
	Gave us Nicholas Ruska yesterday.
	Oh, and by the way...
	Gave us the KKK as well.
	And that party is the Democrat Party.
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	but that was sadly not in the copy.
	That was classic.
	Are you watching tonight?
	I think I have to, yeah.
	Oh, I can't wait.
	Am I doing anything?
	Today is Thursday.
	No, not tonight.
	No, nothing.
	Oh, and don't forget, Stinchfield.
	Guests.
	Yeah, I know.
	We didn't discuss that.
	We've got a few booked.
	Okay, good.
	Oh, boy.
	70 seconds.
	Who else is good on Second Amendment?
	Should we get Herrera on?
	We have, uh, the gun owners guy.
	Oh, good.
	Eric Ratt.
	We're probably- You're going to need to do at least a block or two on this hearing reaction.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Should we do Boris?
	That's who I was going to ask, because Julie can't because she's on vacation.
	What?
	She's not allowed to go on vacation?
	Julie Kelly?
	What?
	She's not happy that this is happening.
	They're in this.
	That's what they planned it for this time.
	Yes.
	They knew.
	The NSA found out Julie's vacation.
	But she is going to do the radio tomorrow.
	Oh, good.
	Oh, nice.
	Skype?
	Or not?
	No, it's just phone audio.
	Uh, come in with, uh, Bongino.
	That is cut, uh... 8.
	8, coming in with cut 8, no liner.
	All right.
	Yep.
	All right.
	The most dangerous place in America right now for a minority is to be surrounded by rich White liberals.
	I'm not kidding.
	If you look at the Bowdoin vote count, it was only rich white liberals who could afford their own security guards and security systems who voted to keep him in office.
	It was minorities who both voted his ass out.
	That is the most dangerous place in America for minorities is to be surrounded by white liberals.
	Get away from these people like Snake Plissken.
	Escape from New York as quick as you can.
	I love Dan Ronge.
	He always smuggles in those movie references, things that Jeff doesn't know about, because I think Escape from New York was before he was born.
	A snake pliskin.
	Yes, the most dangerous place for minorities is to be surrounded by white liberals, like in San Francisco.
	Mr. G, we discussed it in the break.
	Let's share it with our millions of listeners.
	Do I have to watch The Clown Show tonight?
	Well, I'll be able to give you a very good recap if you want, because I cannot wait on watching the entire thing.
	But check in for a little bit, just for entertainment purposes only.
	Alright, what time does it start?
	It starts at 8 o'clock.
	8 o'clock?
	Alright, I'm going to watch it just for you guys.
	I'm going to take one for the team and I'm going to watch it, then Mr. G and I will compare notes tomorrow.
	And I'm going to be hosting Grant Stinchfield's show tomorrow night, 8 o'clock.
	You've got to join us on Newsmax, the great Grant Stinchfield.
	Alright, let's squeeze in one more call before our special guest, Paul Kengel, in our third hour.
	Joe, line one.
	Dr. G. Hey.
	At this point, the Republicans are definitely the adults in the room.
	I believe a lot of Republicans are calling for revenge, but I think our former boss would just want to put the Republican agenda forward.
	They're so nasty, I get it, but to move the country forward is probably the right thing to do.
	You might disagree with me.
	You're kind of talking.
	I don't know what that means.
	What does moving forward mean, Joe?
	It means reversing every executive order that Biden implemented.
	Yeah, but we've got to win the election.
	Oh, we're going to win.
	We're going to win the election, Dr. G. Come on.
	Democrats are voting for Republicans at this point.
	You know, it's a world of pain out there right now.
	We don't take anything for granted, Joe.
	You just have to watch 2,000 Mules.
	They will try to steal it again.
	You know it.
	In the meantime, take a stand.
	Show courage.
	Show the world who you are.
	That you believe in America first.
	Treat yourself.
	Treat your loved ones.
	Go to a website that doesn't have anything made in China.
	Go to sebgorkastore.com.
	That's s-e-b-g-o-r-k-a-store.com.
	Understand the plan that they have and what it's going to take to defeat them if you read my books as well.
	Next up, the real reason that the plan is so effective is because they've been working it for 90 years.
	Yes.
	And the leading expert on that communist plan is none other than Paul Kengel.
	Right here, one-on-one.
	You don't want to miss a millisecond.
	Stay on this channel.
	You don't want to miss a millisecond.
	You don't want to miss a millisecond.
	.
	We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Let me say it again.
	The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
	Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
	Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
	I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
	I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
	If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
	Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
	We have been working on something big.
	Show me the money.
	Can we meet?
	I've been working with Greg Phillips.
	He has a deep background in election intelligence.
	True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
	No one has more data than we do.
	We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
	But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
	What is a mule?
	A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
	This is not grandma out walking her dog.
	Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
	They are interested in one thing, that's money.
	And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
	This is organized crime.
	Do you have video evidence?
	Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
	What you're about to see is disturbing.
	So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
	Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
	One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
	I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
	Because they work like that.
	This is jaw-dropping.
	What you showed is frightening.
	It's just sickening to me.
	Now we come to the most important question of all.
	Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
	It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
	They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
	That's provable.
	And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
	Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
	We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
	Two Thousand Mules.
	in select theaters may 2nd and 4th virtual premiere may 7th stream may 8th at salem now or locals you know someone very profoundly once said many years ago that if fascism ever comes to america it'll come in the name of liberalism and what What is fascism?
	Fascism is private ownership, private enterprise, but total government control and regulation.
	Well, isn't this the liberal philosophy?
	The conservative, so-called, is the one that says, less government, get off my back, get out of my pocket, and let me have more control of my own destiny.
	The great Ronald Reagan predicting decades ago how fascism will come to America.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First, coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios just outside the insalubrious fetid swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	When is fascism going to arrive?
	The great Victor Davis Hanson, one of the greatest minds alive in America today, has just written the following.
	The law is no longer blind and disinterested, but adjudicates indictment, prosecution, verdict, and punishment on the ideology of the accused.
	Eric Holder is held in contempt of Congress and smiles.
	Peter Navarro is held in contempt of Congress and is hauled off in cuffs and leg irons.
	James Clapper and John Brennan lied under oath to Congress and were rewarded with television contracts.
	Roger Stone did the same and a SWAT team showed up at his house.
	How bad is it?
	What can be done about it?
	Let's speak to somebody who is perhaps our best expert on the evolution of communism today and its relevance to the body politic.
	He is a good friend of America First, Professor Paul Kengel.
	Welcome back to One on One.
	Yeah, thanks, Seb.
	You are in, how did you put it, the insalubrious fetid swamp of DC?
	I love that.
	I got to write that down.
	That is one of my liners, the insalubrious fetid swamp.
	Yes, indeed.
	So we've got to have a sense of humor.
	We've got to be happy warriors, as Reagan taught us.
	But that prediction that I played, even to somebody who's not a talk radio host, somebody who looks at history dispassionately, it seems like we may have arrived at his prediction, no?
	Well, it's interesting that, uh, so Ronald Reagan, who had been a liberal, right?
	In fact, he described himself as a hemophiliac liberal, a bleeding heart liberal.
	And we're here talking, this would be, see Reagan died June 5th, 2004.
	So this is going on 20 years, almost a 20-year anniversary, I guess, of his death, 18 years ago this past June.
	But his life, you know, he saw all of these ideologies, Seb.
	He had been an FDR Democrat.
	He had voted for Harry Truman.
	His father loved FDR.
	He admired FDR.
	And then he slowly, you know, through an evolution, because of a number of different reasons, among other things, Working for General Electric, GE Theater, and seeing how private enterprise really worked.
	And also seeing in Hollywood, dealing with communists, dealing with Marxists, who called themselves progressives.
	But as he soon found out, they were anything but progressives or liberals.
	These were Marxists.
	And then as Reagan continued this evolution to the right, he saw his fellow liberals, his erstwhile liberal colleagues, refer to conservatives as fascists.
	And Reagan knew better, because Reagan at one point after World War II, 1945, 1946, 1947, was fighting both communism and fascism.
	And Reagan said, Seb, he said, you know, when it comes to the difference between a communist and a fascist, there's really not a dime's worth of difference between them.
	Because in the end, both of them support very big, excessive, obtrusive, intrusive government.
	And for people to try to put conservatives on the fascist side, Reagan said, you can't do that.
	I mean, the Nazis, right?
	What did Nazis stand for, right?
	Nationalist, socialist, German workers party.
	Hitler was a socialist.
	Mussolini was a socialist.
	Mussolini, a fascist.
	Hitler, a fascist.
	Mussolini was a Marxist.
	So Reagan knew that conservatives, they were the side of free markets, freedom, right?
	A different understanding of radical libertarian freedom that a lot of people understand today.
	But above all, like Reagan said, they supported limited government.
	They were not for the state.
	That's what the left has always been for.
	So let's stop here for a second because this is such a crucial point.
	And even I myself, when I was younger, fell into this conventional wisdom, Professor, that politics is on a linear scale.
	It's the x-axis.
	And on the left, on the extreme left, you have the communists.
	On the extreme right, you have the fascists.
	Then, you know, going in towards the center, you have the more normal, less extreme parties.
	Have conservatives failed?
	Since the writing of Mein Kampf, since Mussolini established the fascist party with the symbol of the fasces from Rome, the bundle of sticks tied together that are stronger together than individually, have we failed to counter this conventional wisdom that fascism is of the right?
	Because if you look at the name of the Nazi party, these are kissing cousins.
	These are Two parties that are on the same... If there is a linear scale, they're both on the same end of the scale, are they not?
	Yes, exactly right.
	In fact, when Hitler—it was Ribbentrop and Molotov and Stalin when they met after signing the Hitler-Stalin pact, and Molotov—Ribbentrop, who had been the foreign minister to Hitler, referred to—well, actually Stalin said this about Beria, his KGB head.
	He said, this is our Himmler, right?
	Beria is our Himmler.
	People listening that know this history well enough, especially people on the left, might be yelling at their screen right now, yelling at their radio, saying, come on!
	The Nazis took on the Communists!
	The Nazis hated the Communists!
	Well, they did in Germany.
	They were rivals, but they were both on that big government, big control, socialist side.
	And in the end, they found a way to come together.
	Yes, a lot of people in the United States thought that they would.
	Bishop Fulton Sheen predicted that these two would eventually come together.
	He said, there's not much difference between the mustache fascist, meaning Hitler, with a little mustache, and the mustache communist, meaning Stalin.
	They found a way to come together and eventually launch World War II.
	But yeah, I think conservatives had failed to teach this.
	And a lot of it, Seb, I don't think it's so much conservatives' fault, but what we're up against with academia, with what's being taught to people, every semester in my comparative politics course, every fall semester at Grove City College, I take up the whole chalkboard and I write a linear line right where I go far left, Right.
	all the way to the far right, and I draw an arrow.
	I said, okay, as you go in the direction of left, and according to this, you have more government control.
	And that takes you all the way from libertarian on one end, which would be the far right end, although you'd never call a libertarian far right, right?
	And then you eventually go down toward the moderates, and then toward the liberals, and then toward the socialists, and then toward the communists and Marxists with complete control.
	But the national socialists are right there next to the Marxists and communists.
	They're not libertarians.
	Right?
	They're not laissez-faire free marketers, which is why some people have said, forget about using that line, right?
	Take that line instead and turn it into a horseshoe.
	Yes, exactly.
	It's a circle with a missing bottom.
	Right, exactly.
	With fascism and communism almost touching at the bottom.
	And for me, the biggest difference, but correct me if I'm wrong, Professor, the biggest difference is, well, they both worship the state, but in the early stages of fascism, The fascist state co-opts the corporations.
	It doesn't necessarily take them over.
	It just says, Krupp, if you want to be a successful company, you better do my bidding.
	So it's a very nuanced difference.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's exactly right.
	And with the fascists, with the socialist fascists, Hitler, Mussolini, yeah, you would have this kind of The state would take over corporations, the state would run corporations, so they wouldn't go as far to the left as the far left with the Marxists and the Communists.
	So, Ronald Reagan would say there's really not a dime's worth of difference between them.
	Well, I'll correct Reagan here.
	There is more than a dime's worth of difference between them.
	However, they are very similar, and that's the key point.
	And so some have also said, beyond the horseshoe analogy, that it's really a closed circle where the communists and the far right, if the far right in this case would be the Nazis, would be the fascists, come together and meet.
	But I wouldn't, and in a way they did come together and meet in World War II, right?
	They collaborated.
	Yes!
	But it's more like a horseshoe.
	And people like to very easily forget that, that there was actually a secret pact between Stalin and Hitler to divide up Europe, because If you're inimical, it's hard to do that kind of thing, isn't it?
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	Paul, we had Peter Navarro, my former White House colleague on the show yesterday, I want to ask you, and this may be a weird angle, but I'm an immigrant, so I chose this country.
	I wasn't blessed to be born in the greatest nation on God's Earth.
	You were born here.
	There's somebody who grew up in America who's written seminal works.
	Let's just put a couple up there.
	The most recent one, everybody needs to read it.
	A disturbing uncovering of the demonic, the diabolical nexus of communism is the devil and Karl Marx.
	And then one of my prior favorites, is the one about the key individuals that won the cold war such as the gipper and of course blessed saint john paul the second a pope and a president paul as somebody born here did you ever expect to see a political adversary of an administration
	Who hasn't killed anybody, is not a drug lord, be handcuffed at Reagan Airport and put in leg irons to be physically transported by the federal agents to Hinkley's cell in the bowels of the FBI.
	Did you think that was ever possible?
	Yeah, it's really shocking, isn't it?
	And Hinckley's cell, right about the time that Hinckley has been released, recently released, you know, his unconditional release.
	Here we are 41 years after he shot Ronald Reagan.
	And what bothers me too is, in fact, taking this back to, well, again, the Reagan years.
	It was with the Iran-Contra hearings, trying to think who used this term at the time.
	It might have been Ed Meese, who talked about the criminalization of policy differences.
	Yes.
	And this is something that the liberals have been doing.
	And in fact, here at Grove City College, just this past week, we had one of our fellows in the Institute for Faith and Freedom, Jay Cost.
	And I know you've read Jay Cost.
	He writes for Real Clear Politics, Washington Examiner, National Review.
	He's an expert on James Madison, and he was talking about Madison and the art of compromise, and how politics, people make fun of politics being all about compromise, but really, that's kind of the virtue of politics in a democracy, is that you do have compromise.
	So parties learn how to compromise and their differences.
	In fact, Ronald Reagan in 1981, August 13, 1981, got his enormous federal income tax passed with Tip O'Neill and the Democrats overwhelmingly controlling the House of Representatives.
	The Washington Post called it the most remarkable example of bipartisan cooperation in politics in generations.
	So you learn how to get along with people across the aisle.
	But what's gone on with Democrats increasingly recently, recent years, recent decades, is they don't want to compromise with you.
	They want to crush you.
	They want to beat you.
	They want to destroy you.
	And with liberals and social media, they want to cancel you.
	It's not enough to disagree.
	They can't stand disagreement.
	They can't stand dissent.
	I learned a long time ago that you're never going to find anybody who agrees with you on everything.
	Right?
	I mean, even among fellow conservatives, you know, the American Conservative Union puts out these rankings, how conservative is this or that legislator.
	It's very rare to find somebody who scores 100 on that, right?
	Right.
	Ronald Reagan might have only scored in the lower 90s.
	So you learn how to disagree and get along.
	But with the Democrats and the Liberals, they have really, they're punishing people, and they're using everything that happened with Trump and January 6th.
	They're going to turn this into a show trial if they can.
	I wonder if Donald Trump came out tomorrow, Seb, and said, OK, you know what?
	I really do feel like I'm going to be older in 2024.
	I'm just not going to run.
	I'm not going to run again.
	It's a promise.
	I'm not going to run again.
	You wonder if they would call off the whole January 6th thing on the spot.
	No.
	If that happened.
	No.
	Yeah, but it's you.
	They use these things In order to go after their enemies, politicize things, and at the very least, forget about 2024, right?
	This is probably what your reaction suggests.
	They're looking right now to November 2022.
	Well, the issue for me is, I mean, when you ask that question rhetorically or otherwise, the fact is, no, they won't.
	Because tell me if you think I'm wrong, Paul, but I see no moderating influence on the left.
	I mean, you know, Biden, who was An old-school Democrat who talked about, you know, the fellow segregationist Democrats as gentlemen he worked with, who was, you know, who spoke about the racial jungle he didn't want his children to grow up in.
	This person is, if the squad burps, he will echo the burp.
	There is no, you know, you don't have to like Bill Clinton, Paul, but Clinton would reign in the crazies.
	If you look at all the extreme things that have happened, from Russian collusion, to the Navarro arrest, to the open borders, to Afghanistan and everything else, I don't see one influential Democrat voice who says, hang on guys, this is a little nuts.
	Yeah, and it's really sad about Biden because, in fact, Biden voted for both of the Reagan tax cuts in 1981 and 1986.
	And you look at an issue like abortion, which the feminists are probably going to be losing their minds in the next few weeks if Roe v. Wade and KCV Planned Parenthood are eventually overturned here.
	But Joe Biden used to be fairly moderate on the abortion issue.
	He was definitely pro-choice and not somebody we would have considered pro-life.
	But as recently as, I think it was summer of 2019, he still supported the Hyde Amendment.
	He supported the Hyde Amendment for 42 years!
	Right.
	And he reversed on that under the badgering and hounding and crying and weeping, literally, of Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.
	In fact, it was in Atlanta, I think, in the summer of 2019, where just all of a sudden, after supporting Hyde for over 40 years, he just threw that to the wind.
	And so this man, who right now could really be gaining political points If he really showed some true statesmanship and reached across the aisle and took some more moderate positions and tried to really be a healer, he's doing just the opposite thing.
	He's going lockstep with the left on everything.
	Did you notice the other day, Seb, it would have been January 6th, the anniversary of D-Day, And it wasn't until, I think, 8 or 8.30 p.m.
	8.45 in the evening, already almost 3 a.m.
	in Paris, when the President and the White House remembered that there was an anniversary to celebrate.
	And that's the second time, guys, the second time, two years in a row, that this administration forgets a moment when we came to stop real fascists.
	But they didn't forget to fly the flag for Pride Month.
	Of course, of course.
	And it was probably outside the U.S.
	Embassy in Paris.
	I'm sure it was.
	We talked to Professor Paul Kengor.
	This is America First one-on-one.
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	I have to ask you, Paul.
	Higher education.
	You're a professor.
	You run a center.
	My son is about to graduate from a rather, you know, well-known university, and his major is... He loves the classics.
	He loves ancient Greece, Rome, and his major is classics.
	You know, Western Civilization.
	And it's a big bloody university.
	And we're going to the graduation.
	And we're going to be in the football stadium for all those graduating together.
	And then we go off for the faculty graduations to celebrate his major.
	He is one of seven, seven kids graduating in Classics from this university.
	Is it a growth city we love?
	You know, we'd love Hillsdale.
	Is the educational environment salvageable after decades of the critical thinkers, the critical theorists that are really the spawn of Neo-Marxism after they've wrought what they've wrought in our colleges, Paul?
	The answer is no.
	They're not salvageable.
	They're toast.
	They're completely gone.
	And if you're talking about the university in general, academia in general, it's completely gone.
	Which is why you need to pick one of maybe about 20 to 30 genuine safe spaces out there to send your kids to.
	Grove City College is one of them.
	Hillsdale is one of them.
	I could think of a few others, probably Liberty University, Franciscan University.
	ISI has an annual guidebook, so the Intercollegiate Studies Institute has their annual list of decent colleges, but it's a small number, isn't it?
	It's a small number and there is also Young America's Foundation usually has some recommended ones also.
	If from a faith perspective, if you're Catholic, consult the National Catholic Register Cardinal Newman Society list.
	Of recommended colleges, there's about 20 to 30.
	So out of the thousands that are out there, there's no more than a couple dozen, maybe three dozen at the most, that are safe.
	And your son, you said, was one of seven classical majors?
	Seven.
	Out of how many people in that university?
	Do you know the number?
	Well, it's Stanford.
	It's not a small university.
	Well, in Stanford, I think it was about five or six years ago, in fact, I wrote a piece on this, For our Institute for Faith and Freedom website, they put up to the students a vote a few years ago on whether or not to require Western Civ, and the students voted it down.
	They rejected it.
	I think I told about in that same article Students at Indiana University in Bloomington having a freakout one night when a Dominican friar showed up on campus walking around in his white robe and they were melting down, Seb, that there was a KKK guy
	So what does that tell you about the modern university when they think that a Dominican friar is a hooded Klansman, right?
	What that tells you is what they're being taught.
	They're being taught nothing about religion, nothing about Western Civ, nothing about the people like the monks, you know, Saint Benedict and so forth, you know, who preserved Western civilization and started the universities, but they're learning about race, race, race, sexuality, sexuality, sexuality, gender, gender, gender.
	As a cradle Catholic who spent 13 years at a Catholic school and then ended up in college with the Jesuits, I gotta laugh for a second, because that's a level of ignorance, you know, that a monk in a habit is a clansman with a whip.
	I mean, you know, I laugh, but then, the flip side, Paul, I think that's a level of brainwashing that North Korea would be proud of.
	It's shocking.
	In fact, what makes it kind of worse in North Korea is it's a willful ignorance.
	It's an ignorance under freedom.
	It's not a coerced ignorance.
	They're choosing to go to these colleges and learn all these things.
	When we at Grove City College added a Western Civ course to our sixth course Humanities curriculum about three years ago, that's the complete opposite of what everyone else is doing, right?
	Jesse Jackson, hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go.
	When I was at, I visited near Shenley Park, my alma mater, University of Pittsburgh, a few months ago, and I looked down towards Shenley Park, Seb, and I could see a giant sheet over top of the statue.
	And I started walking down the street.
	It was where, when I first went to the University of Pittsburgh in 1987, I sat under that statue of Christopher Columbus and read my readings.
	And the first course that I took there, first semester, my required Western Civ course, that course is no longer being taught.
	And the statue of Columbus is not only covered up, it's being taken down.
	Now, what does that tell you about a nation Well, you know, a civilization or a nation cannot survive if it hates itself and if it hates those that helped build that nation.
	That's irrespective of politics.
	That's just a statement of fact.
	We're talking to the author of The Devil and Karl Marx.
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	Can we spend, can we pretend for a few minutes, Paul, that we're in one of your graduate school classes?
	Because when I, you know, I used to teach a one-on-one on the Cold War, and I used to start the first lecture on what is communism?
	Because you have to understand, you know, the fake science that is communism.
	Karl Marx said that this is scientific, that this materialist dialectic is like physics, like mathematics.
	It's a con, there is nothing scientific about it, but let's just remind people how stupid and insane and inane this construct was.
	So the idea is, cribbing off and perverting the ideas of the first dialectic from Hegel, that History is a progression.
	It's always progressing.
	For Hegel, it's a progression to the ultimate truth, which is God.
	Marx flipped it and said, no, the immaterial is irrelevant.
	God is irrelevant.
	The only thing that matters is matter, is the material.
	The history of mankind is a thesis antithesis and it is based upon tension and the ultimate tension.
	is the conflict between the oppressed and the oppressors and eventually this tension will lead to the final revolution which will bring us socialism which is the waypoint towards communism at which point magically they didn't quite explain it magically private property ceases to exist Everybody owns nothing and everything at the same time, and everything's equal.
	When you say it like that, it sounds so moronic, but that really is the essence, isn't it?
	Yeah, you put it very well.
	In fact, not only would property disappear, classes would disappear, capital would disappear, states would disappear, family and marriage would disappear.
	So you have all these things magically being abolished.
	Abolition, right?
	And also, too, you're right, Seb.
	He tried to apply some sort of scientific veneer to all of this.
	Engels at Marx's funeral quoted Darwin.
	And he said Marx is doing for the social sciences what Darwin did for the biological sciences.
	So there would be this inevitable evolution where society would pass through these various stages, from slavery and feudalism, to capitalism, to socialism, to eventually communism.
	So history would pass through these different stages.
	And if you're looking for a short, quick definition of communism, Marx and Engels pretty much gave it in the Communist Manifesto.
	People will say to me all the time, if you had to define communism in a single sentence, what would it be?
	And I say, well, go to Marx and Engels in the Manifesto.
	They said, quote, the entire communist theory may be summed up In a single sentence, abolition of private property.
	Yeah.
	So that's how they put it.
	So for them, you know, this alpha and omega to get there required abolishing private property.
	And you cannot do that.
	You cannot do that without force.
	You can't do it without force.
	You can't do it without guns.
	You can't do it without gulags.
	It's a basic right.
	It's a sacred right.
	Some people consider it a flat-out natural right.
	From the cave to the courthouse, I mean, the Ten Commandments, right?
	Thou shalt not steal implies that you have the right to property.
	And all of this is so ironic, too, because Marx himself was a really greedy man.
	And all that Marx cared about was property and capital.
	And how much money he could sponge off Engels because he never worked a day in his life!
	That's right.
	Ingalls was his sugar daddy.
	Got all of his money from Ingalls.
	Tried to get as much money as he could from his wife, Laura.
	In fact, everybody in Marx's family had to cut off him and his wife.
	His father finally cut him off.
	Marx didn't attend his father's funeral.
	Marx became so angry at his father.
	Marx's mother and wife both separately expressed the wish in writing the quote, Karl would start accumulating some capital rather than just writing about capital.
	And for them too.
	And you see this among so much of the left generally, Seb.
	Whatever they're accusing you of is what they're obsessed about.
	Right.
	And what they're doing themselves.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	And I mean, Marx was trying to fashion a golden calf out of money, out of material.
	I quote in The Devil and Karl Marx, his hideous statements about Jews.
	He, uh, one of them was, uh, let me see what I think of off the top of my head.
	Um, what is the worldly God of the Jew?
	Money, right?
	Uh, haggling.
	He has these statements about Jews that Hitler could have said, and you read these, and if you know anything about Marx, you think, no, Karl, your worldly god is money.
	All you care about is money.
	In fact, Pope Benedict XVI said, you know, Marx believed that the key to the new Jerusalem Was money, right?
	If Augustine said, we have a God-shaped vacuum in all of us that only God can fill, Marx to Marx, we had a dollar-shaped vacuum in all of us that only money could fill.
	And like Jesus said to Satan, man does not live by bread alone.
	The Marxists believe that man lives by bread alone.
	Well, if they tried to abolish If you say only the material world exists, of course you're going to be a worshipping mammon.
	I have to bring all of this up to the present day, Paul.
	If you look at what's happened to President Trump, the impeachments, the illegal spying, what happened to Mike Flynn, Manafort, Bannon, now Navarro, how the IRS was weaponized by Obama,
	You can be very depressed and it's easy to give up faith in the principles we hold to be true, but given your expertise in communist regimes, if you look at Ceausescu's Romania, if you look at Hoxha's Albania, there is a point at which these regimes, paradoxically, the stronger they try to grip The people beneath them, the more fragile they become.
	So at the end of the day, the more authoritarian your proclivities, doesn't mean that you're becoming stronger and stronger necessarily.
	Well, and especially in a democracy where you have the ability to actually change it, right?
	Actually, I'm getting tired of the way the left is using the word democracy.
	Democracy, right?
	But in this representative republic, you have the ability to change it.
	Now, what does discourage me, not only the universities and what young people are learning, and more importantly, what they're not learning, but social media and big tech.
	I mean, it's really making a lot of this really difficult.
	In November 2020, suddenly nobody could question whether or not there might have been voter fraud in a presidential election after four years of the Democrats, for four years every day, telling us that the 2016 election had been rigged and stolen by Trump and Putin.
	So it's like, wait a second, I listened to this from you guys for four years.
	I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, right?
	Tinfoil hat liberals for four years talking about collusion, collusion, right?
	Voter fraud, voter fraud.
	And then in November 2020, you can't talk about it anymore?
	I mean, there's voter fraud in every election and now you can't talk about it anymore.
	But this is the kind of, this is very frustrating.
	It can be despairing, but yeah, you do still have elections and I don't know, maybe there'll be a big correction in November 2022.
	It's up to us.
	It's up to us.
	That's the way it works in our constitutional republic.
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	They need, SebGawkerStore.com, they need to read your books.
	I'm just going to mention three of them.
	I'm going to mention the most recent, The Devil and Karl Marx.
	Then the book about the Pope and the President.
	A superlative work.
	You've got to get those two as well.
	A Pope and a President.
	And then lastly, my favorite, is Dupes.
	But beyond the homework that... Wow, that was impressive.
	I didn't even know we had that image.
	Nicely done, Eric.
	Beyond reading anything that Kengor's written, what advice to give to those who are worried about their children or their grandchildren?
	How do they inoculate them from the lies of the people who want them to think that a monk is a member of the KKK with a whip?
	We love what PragerU is doing with their short videos, Turning Point USA, one of the most important organizations out there.
	But if you had a message for the adults watching in terms of homework they could do or give to their loved ones or their children, where would they start?
	Well, really the most important thing indeed is where you send them to school, right?
	And especially if you're sending them to a private school, which you should, or homeschool them.
	And then after that, once the girl or boy is 18 years old, you really can't send them off to these radical secular universities.
	Now look, sometimes you can, okay?
	But they've got to be really grounded.
	They've got to be really strong.
	And a big mistake that a lot of parents make, I hear this all the time, is, oh, Susie will be okay, right?
	She's had all her religious ed courses and everything.
	I had parents tell me about their son, Oh, he's taking a religion course his first semester.
	It'll be okay.
	And I asked them at Thanksgiving when they were vetting to me about how terribly liberal their son's school was.
	They said, how's the religion course going?
	And the mom said, it's taught by an atheist.
	I said, well, of course it's taught by an atheist.
	What do you think, C.S.
	Lewis was going to be teaching it?
	It's an anti-religion course.
	It's not a religion course.
	It's an anti-religion course.
	That's exactly right.
	But I would tell them this too, and I think this is kind of good practical advice.
	Equip them now to, every morning, I hear this all the time, where do you go for information?
	What do you read?
	Give them a dozen different sources and tell them to read them every day.
	And really focus on, especially with a young person, say, look, you're open-minded, right?
	Your liberal university is teaching you to believe in diversity.
	Prove your open-mindedness and diversity by reading a mixed number of sources.
	So in the morning, check CNN.com, but also check FoxNews.com.
	And if their professor says, no, this is the only thing you should be reading, you should only be reading Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky, then they should be told by their parents and their grandparents, Then that's a bad professor.
	Unlike Paul Kengor, you've got to read his books.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	That flew by far too quickly.
	This has been America First, a one-on-one.

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