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Welcome, dear friends. dear friends.
Greetings.
We have to talk about some serious things today.
We have some amazing guests.
Third hour one-on-one is going to be with former U.S.
Naval Intelligence and U.S.
Army Air Force officer.
That's pretty cool when you've served in two services.
That's a big deal.
But then you get to be Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense and then after that a member of the Trump cabinet as Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie will be with us in studio for the whole third hour analyzing the events that have occurred in the last few days in Ukraine.
Lord Conrad Black will be with us and we will also be talking to John Solomon later this hour.
I want to take your calls.
I haven't been taking enough of your calls in the last few days because of the Geopolitical events that have been occurring.
The number is 833-33-GORKA.
That's 833-334-6752.
But first... I've really had it.
I've had it with people like... What is it?
Election Wizard.
Is that the account?
Election Wizard.
Somebody who I followed on Twitter.
I have no idea who's behind Election Wizard.
But Election Wizard is a liar.
And worse than that, they've accused somebody I respect highly of being a liar, of being a swamp creature, quote-unquote, parroting talking points that have been debunked.
Who are they talking about?
Somebody you've never heard of?
No.
He may work for another company, but he is the great one.
He is a radio giant.
His name is Mark Levin.
And this account, Election Wizard, said the following about this clip.
Play clip.
There are no nukes there.
There's been a phony story about American biotech centers there to develop weapons and so forth.
And, of course, the Putin wing of the Republican Party and the Putin wing of the media and the Putin wing of the Democrat Party, they're all over it.
Now, those are old Soviet locations that the United States has located and has been trying to deal with.
We're not developing biochemical weapons in the Ukraine.
What is it about these so-called American firsters in the end who are really American lasters, if you think about it?
This account has 300,000 followers.
ElectionWizard on Twitter.
And tweeted this.
Holy cow!
It's true!
Mark Levin actually parroted Mitt Romney's debunked talking points about the US-backed biolabs in Ukraine!
What happened to the Great One?
Nothing, you cretin.
Unless you're a Putin puppet, which is worse.
He spoke the truth.
About the Biolabs.
Let's talk about the Biolabs.
Foolishly, the Ukraine, the largest republic of the former Soviet Union, when it became an independent country, as the USSR dissolved itself, Christmas Day 1991, it inherited a lot, and I mean the most, nuclear weapons outside of Russia and America.
Yeah, more than China, more than the UK, more than France, more than Israel.
For some reason, probably well-meaning, oh, unless it's that Klaus Schwab guy.
For some well-meaning reason, probably, the Clinton administration, our allies thought, you know, we don't need more nuclear weapons in the world, we need less.
How about we make it so that the Ukraine gets guarantees from us and Russia, And gives those nuclear weapons to Russia.
Denuclearizes themselves.
Gives away the best defensive measure they have because, you know, at least there's one less country with nukes.
And we supported them.
We encouraged it.
We made them fundamentally defenseless in terms of Russian aggression.
And we guaranteed their security.
Along with Russia.
Let's not leave Russia out of it.
The Budapest Accords, the Budapest Memorandum said Ukraine, in exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons, will have its security guaranteed by us and Russia.
We'll be prevented from being aggressed upon.
Yeah, I bet they wish they had those nukes right now.
If there's only one thing you draw from the last three and a half weeks as thousands of people are murdered in Ukraine, children, pregnant women, as young men, 18 year olds, I'm going to show you a video later, 18 year olds with three days training and an AK go to protect their country.
The biggest, most obvious lesson of all, Yeah, nuclear weapons are great.
Because if Ukraine had kept them, they never would have been invaded.
So let's hear it for Edward Teller.
Let's hear it for those who developed the Manhattan Project and at least guaranteed the security of America.
So, what happened as the nuclear deal was being sealed?
Ukraine, as a part of the Soviet Union, the largest republic outside of Russia, also had thousands of bio-weapons labs.
Which were illegal, in accordance with the 1972 Bioweapons Treaty.
However, every nation is allowed to research bioweapons, to develop defensive procedures to protect themselves from those who would use biological weapons against them.
So they kept these labs as they gave the nukes back.
So at least if Russia uses anthrax against us, we may have a way to develop something to protect ourselves.
What did America do?
Actually, thanks to Senators Nunn and Lugar, and also a Barack Obama member of the Senate, We gave some funding to these labs to help them maintain their security.
And maybe we could learn something from what the Soviets were doing in those labs for so long.
It's not a bad idea.
So that story is now being used to besmirch Mark Levin, to call anybody who actually knows about the Cold War, biological weapons and chemical weapons, a shill for the globalists?
Let's go with your wacky theories.
Let's put on our really tight tinfoil hats, double-layered right now.
Say they were defensive labs.
Say America was funding the development of offensive biological weapons across all of Ukraine so that we could use them against the Russians.
So what?
Did IQs suddenly drop in the room?
Did people forget the Cold War?
What did we do during the Cold War?
We developed nuclear weapons to turn Moscow and Leningrad and Novosibirsk into a sheet of glass.
Does that justify Russia invading us?
Bombing, oh I don't know, Brigham and Women's Maternity Hospital in Boston?
Is that okay now?
When did conservatives, because you're not really conservatives, when did putative so-called conservatives become shills for our enemy?
Because guess what?
Russia is our enemy.
They're not declaring war on the globalists.
You are smoking crack if you think Putin is declaring war on the globalists.
He's a former KGB colonel.
He wants to control or destroy anyone that stands in his way.
And I remember a time not too long ago when all conservatives hated KGB colonels.
What has happened to this country?
Somebody explain it to me because I'm just a poor legal immigrant.
Maybe I don't understand.
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And mics are live.
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Good stuff.
All right.
I'm disappointed we don't have any trolls in the Rumble Chat right now to stream with you.
Everyone's agreeing so far.
Good, thank you.
alright three and a half
do you know how many words this is what?
Which one?
No, the PhD.
I can try and look.
That was...
Okay.
The truth about the bio labs in Ukraine.
The truth about the bio labs in Ukraine.
Yep.
Okay.
Oh, can you play me cut six?
Cut six.
The people who work for the Chinese government who drop op-eds in the Sunday New York Times saying, listen, listen.
We're not really that close to the Russians.
I mean, our interests really lie with you and all the money you have in the West.
I was fascinated by the placement of that on Sunday in the New York Times.
It didn't get there by accident.
And David, I'm curious what you thought about the six-hour meeting between Chinese officials and Jake Sullivan yesterday.
We do know what the Chinese said in the statement that they released afterwards.
And it was fascinating.
I'm just going to read you a few excerpts from it.
The Chinese said, the situation today in Ukraine has reached a stage that the Chinese side does not want to see.
And then the Chinese went on to repeat their line, which is that they oppose violation of sovereignty and territorial boundaries.
In other words, they were clearly in this statement distancing themselves from Russia.
One minute.
209 words.
How much?
209.
Okay.
Write back to them and say 160 is my max.
Do they want me to edit or will they send it back?
Cut five.
Your administration has been very clear about not wanting to raise taxes on average Americans, on the middle class, but gas prices at the pump have been a huge tax on anybody who is driving anywhere.
What do you do about that?
And are you in favor of potentially putting a hold on the national gas tax in the meantime until those prices do come down?
Well, it continues to be important to keep options open.
And as you know, the president has taken a lot of steps to bring relief and to help stabilize.
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One aspect...
Right, let me tell you a story.
After I left the Hungarian defense ministry in the 1990s, I got a job with a German foundation called the Schumann Stiftung.
It was a Christian conservative organization based in Budapest that was running training programs for young politicians from the newly free nations of the Central and Eastern European region, including the Balkans.
And we were helping them establish conservative parties, learn how to run campaigns, and you know, how to function in nascent democracies.
One of the things that really bothered me, to my core, is I'd be running these programs.
That was my job.
I'd teach a little, but I'd run these programs.
We bring kids from across the region.
You know, Bosnia, from the Balkans, from Eastern Europe, from Bulgaria, the Ukraine, and they're all different.
But for far too many of them, there was a commonality.
And that commonality was a belief in their 20s in outrageous conspiracy theories.
That everything in the world Is run by, oh I don't know, the Americans or the Jews or a cabal of cigar-smoking capitalists in some boardroom in New York.
And after I heard this again and again and again, I just said, well that's great!
Because then you have no responsibility for your lives, do you?
That's the problem!
With conspiracy theories, whether it's the Flat Earthers, whether it's the bioweapons labs, whether it's the pedophilia rings out of Ukraine.
Every time you buy into another conspiracy theory, You actually die mentally.
Your critical faculties are undermined voluntarily and worse than that you're sending a message to the world.
I have no control over my life.
Somebody else runs my life 10,000 miles away.
Some mysterious group of rooty Christians or lizard men.
Which means You have denied your responsibility for your life.
The only person responsible for you is you.
And when you buy into the crisis actors and all that garbage it means you're not an adult because you're not taking responsibility for your destiny.
Yes, God is in charge!
But you, too, have a responsibility to shape your future.
And when you say, ah, it's in somebody else's hands, then you have negated your freedom of will.
Let's go to your calls.
Let's start with line one.
David, California.
Welcome aboard, David.
Hi, Mr. Gorka.
What a privilege to speak to you.
I've been listening to you for a few years.
I'm really a little bit nervous, and I just wanted to take the time to say how much I appreciate your show, and how much I love your fighting spirit, your fighting spirit for America, and your loyalty to the President Donald Trump, and just the way you stick by him.
So many of the conservatives have turned on him.
And it just eats me up.
I'm still hanging by him and hoping that he makes president for the next term.
I wish him all the best and I wish you all the best.
Well, that's very, very kind, David.
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Let's go to another David, also in California.
Welcome.
Hello, Sebastian.
How are you?
Good.
Listen, the guy just stole my thunder.
I wanted to brag about you.
I've been listening to you for a while, and for a long time I thought you were so congenial, but now I know who the true guy, who you really are.
You're one of the few guys that will, when they're asked a question, you'll give an answer and you'll stand up like a man instead of these weasels that when they're asked a question, they start talking about outer space or something.
Well, I'm not a politician and I don't have time for anything else.
Ask me a question and I'll try and give you an answer.
That's very kind.
Anything else, David?
Yes, is there any chance at all that you'd go back into politics if Trump was re-elected?
Well, if President Trump asks me, it's not just an honour, it's a duty, so absolutely yes.
I have a couple of ideas as to what I could do for him based upon our experience the first time round, so yes, David, he is gonna run.
If we can make sure that we win the Senate and the House, he is running.
If the RNC finally gets its act together and we have some modicum of election integrity in this nation, then he will stroll back in.
Because think of this one thing, David.
It kind of hit me yesterday like a freight train.
I was talking to my good friend Stevie who's visiting here from the UK.
He just said we're talking about everything.
The price of gas, the vaccine insanity, the border, Afghanistan, Ukraine, inflation and he said oh yeah and you've got three more years.
Three?
Can we just stop for a second and understand three more years of this?
And I know that's a horrific thought, but it's all the more reason, because it's so horrific, that every single one of you listening to this show has to be engaged.
You have to be involved.
Don't just listen to the show.
Please share the link, subscribe, do the reviews, but get engaged.
Be politically active.
And I don't mean just voting or writing a check every couple of years.
run for local office.
My wife just handed in her documentation.
She's running for a local position in our community.
If you don't want to run, why not?
But if you're not, you should be Actively supporting somebody, working for somebody who is, even if it's one hour a week.
Why?
because three years of this is going to get even worse and we need every good patriot to pick up the pieces.
One second, let's get a load let's get a load back up.
Well...
Yeah, you can use that, just crank it up a bit louder next time.
Yeah, I'm trying to get the audio balance right on it.
Yeah, you know, it can be louder.
Okay.
Can you play cut three and four, Eric?
Three and four, back to back.
Inflation goes up today.
The president's statement blames the Putin price hike.
Are you guys just going to start blaming Putin for everything until the midterms?
Well, we've seen the price of gas go up at least 75 cents since President Putin lined up troops on the border of Ukraine.
Last month, the statement didn't mention the Putin price hike.
It mentioned inflation because of the pandemic.
Why is that?
Well, Peter, last year, last two years, there was a global pandemic.
Everyone who's global economists have all agreed that that has been the biggest contributor to date of inflation because of the impact on the supply chain.
Obviously, global events impact the economy, the global economy, as well as global inflation.
When we're having this discussion, it's important to dispel some of those who say, well, it's the government spending.
No, it isn't.
The government spending is doing the exact reverse, reducing the national debt.
It is not inflationary.
Can you somehow give me the logic?
Does the administration, do you feel that that's an accurate statement?
And how do you How does that work?
How would you make that statement in a logical way?
Well, I mean, first of all, if you look at our fiscal policy, it is true.
And amazingly, a lot of people don't even know this.
God.
It's like a deer in the headlights.
Okay, a minute 45.
We've got food and relief here.
Who did that super long read come from?
Was it Tibideh?
Yeah.
He should know better.
I sent the email, yeah.
90 seconds.
He also sends stuff and says, like, oh, we want to run it tomorrow.
And I'm like, well, you should probably... I've already sent emails about this.
If you want it for a certain day, you should send it at least... Par for the course.
At least two days in advance.
At least.
Who knows if we can... Par for the course.
One minute.
Want to come in with anything?
No.
I'm going to use that Sarah audio.
I'm going to tee it up.
Okay.
Ready for that.
Keep chugging here.
Hey, it's VDH.
All our friends keep showing up on the TV.
He smiles when he's on my show, he doesn't smile when he's on Fox.
Look, look, he does!
Yeah, no, you're not wrong, you're not wrong.
We have fun on this show.
Lively environment.
Even when we're talking about World War 3.
Exactly.
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But that doesn't mean she's a traitor, which is what Mitt Romney called her, yes, called her treasonous.
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Army National Guard, I have interesting information about Mr. Romney I'll share with you in a moment.
But first things first, let's talk about something joyous.
That was a bit of a heavy monologue.
Let's have something uplifting.
A young lady called in to one of my colleagues.
I think it was the Mike Gallagher show.
She's 16 years old.
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Hello, this is Sarah from El Dorado County.
I just wanted to say I really admire your work with Food for the Poor each year.
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Talk to you later.
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It's so well spoken as well.
Do you think you earn a little bit more than Sarah Dance, age 16?
You probably earn a little bit more.
I don't know.
I don't think I had the patience to save up $80 when I was 16 years old.
Maybe I think once.
There was a nice bicycle I wanted to buy.
But she did.
Why?
Because she wants to help.
She sees other children in pain, suffering in the 17 countries that Food for the Poor is active in.
That's incredible.
Just 17 countries, hundreds of thousands of children.
If Sarah could save $80, how about you?
The one-time donation of $88 feeds one of these benighted children for a whole year.
We have the food, we just have to get it to them.
And it provides them with clean drinking water, so essential for a whole year.
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Let's all be Sarahs.
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Let's go to, oh my gosh, Abraham from the UAE.
It's been ages!
Where have you been, my friend?
I'm busy working, just like an average American living 11,000 miles from home would be.
So, Dr. Gorka, I live 177 miles from Iran.
So, news about Iran affects me and my family, my friends, my colleagues, my business associates directly.
The only existential threat that the UAE has, and Saudi Arabia, is Iran.
Just today, Saudi Arabia announced that she is going to visit Saudi Arabia, that they're considering accepting Yuan, Instead of U.S.
dollars for oil.
Yeah, they're considering accepting their currency instead of the dollar.
Can you please delve into the long-term consequences for the United States currency being so powerful internationally and being replaced by the yuan and also
What can an American administration or Republican Congress do in November to reverse this trend that they're headed towards paying for oil and yuan, this connection?
It's a massive earthquake, and I don't think it's getting enough No, I'm sure it is, Abraham.
I'm sure it is.
It's not getting any discussion here.
That is the plan.
China wants to replace the global currency, the dollar, with its own.
The ramifications are huge.
What can be done?
After the midterms?
Well, we have to win the midterms because the House has the purse strings.
We can change the unbelievable devaluation of the dollar if we take back the purse strings and try and get a grip on the budget.
We will continue the discussion.
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What is with Michael Savage?
Uh-oh.
What did he do this time?
He tweeted this out.
President Biden, the world respects you and your restraint.
Don't let the warmongers left and right push you into World War 3.
Wait, what?
Michael Savage?
Yeah.
What's your take on him?
Is he just an attention whore?
I think he's loopy.
No, he's weird.
He's got a problem with everybody.
I mean, he's fired, like, his producer 50 million times.
I'm sure he's one of those.
I mean, he's not even on the radio anymore.
He's got some podcast.
Podcast, right.
He's always been very, uh, kind of pro-Russia.
He has?
Not pro-Russia, but, like, what's the point of getting involved?
Alright, I'll dial up Mr. Just The News.
I assume you want to come into my pillow audio?
Um, let's not.
Not this time.
I'll just, I'll just do it.
Hello John!
Hi guys, how are you?
Doing good, I just thought we'd pod that down a little bit.
I gotcha, yeah.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Good stuff.
Minute fifty seconds till we go back on the air.
How we doing, John?
We are doing well.
The Senate just passed permanent daylight savings time a few minutes ago.
A lot of people are so pissed on social media about this.
It's like, I don't care.
I get a little bit more, I know it's, what was it, Jefferson said it?
No, it's Ben Franklin.
Ben Franklin said, you know, What was the story about the Native Indian, the Red Indian?
Only a white man would believe cutting a foot off a blanket and stitching it to the other end would make it longer.
So what are they doing?
It's a World War II thing, right?
You don't go back in the winter or what?
What?
Yeah, what does that mean, the permanent thing?
What does that mean?
It means that we're not going to fall back in the winter, which means it'll be dark in the morning when you get up in the winter.
I love that.
You like that?
So lighter out later?
Yes, because it's lighter out later.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
All right, we're going to have breaking news!
They canceled it, so they just stopped this?
They have a war going on.
Because this is the important stuff.
This is the important stuff.
You know what?
I actually agree.
I'm tired of you like this.
Canceling my extra hour of sleep.
I was talking about this with Stevie just yesterday.
How are you going to explain this to people now?
How are kids gonna understand?
You're like, oh, when I was growing up, you know.
When I was a young whippersnapper.
We had to deal with the World War II policy that lasted all the way to 2022.
The clock just randomly would change an hour back and forth.
Was that inconvenient?
Yeah.
There's nothing I can say.
You should just play this segment the way you just did it.
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I told you a little bit of update from Mr. Romney, who called Tulsi Gabbard a traitor on Twitter yesterday.
By the way, this great paragon of American virtue, Mitt Romney, had deferments for five years during the Vietnam War.
Not too shabby.
For five and a half years he got deferments because he was a minister of religion.
Did you know he was a minister of religion?
And also then he had to go back to his academic studies.
So he, he's a tough guy.
Let's talk to a man who's gonna break news right here on America First because there may be a war in Europe but John Solomon's got the goods.
It's justthenews.com.
Share with all of our listeners what you told us in the break, John.
Yeah, I can't make this up, but on a day before President Zelensky is going to address Congress and plead for help as the Russians advance on Ukraine, the Senate passed and made it permanent that we're going to have daylight savings time forever now.
We're not going to roll back our clocks in December, and we'll have a darker morning in the winter.
And a lighter afternoon in the winter.
That's the weighty work that's going on in Washington today.
And why not distract the American public from that?
Because just a few minutes ago, President Biden suffered a big loss.
Sarah Bloom Raskin formally withdrew her nomination to the Fed, a major victory for Republicans who opposed her nomination, and a big defeat for President Biden.
Wow.
Now that is news.
You know, I want to smile.
I want to laugh.
But seriously, John, you know, you've been watching The Swamp for decades.
How can a straight face spend a nanosecond on whether we do away with daylight savings, whether we triple it down, whatever, when there's a war going on and there's double-digit inflation and the gas is the highest it's ever been?
As a citizen, as a taxpayer, do you have a comment?
You know, listen, the media and the establishment in Washington are good at unleashing weapons of mass distraction.
Yeah.
We should be focused on getting energy back here in the country while our gas is up at $4.20, $4.30 a gallon, while people are suffering in Ukraine, while inflation is at the highest rate ever recorded in history, 10%.
But what do they do?
They do something a stunt like change daylight savings time, which, by the way, has a lot of pop culture references.
Everybody's going to talk about it.
But it means that we're going to be distracted from the much more serious issues that plague this world and plague this country right now.
I had Rick Grinnell on my podcast today and he said this, the media and the permanent elitist establishment in Washington, they work hand in hand better, they work more closely together than the old Soviet press with the Soviet establishment.
That's what he said on my show today.
I think he might be right about that.
My producer Mr. G just texted me, if Biden signs this cancellation of daylight savings, it's going to be the biggest accomplishment of his White House career so far.
I think that's right.
It's Jay Sullivan.
Low bar to hit.
Yeah, it's a low bar to hit.
Jay Solomon reports, it's justinews.com, they've even got a new VIP club, check it out, and the book is Fallout.
John, can I see on your Twitter feed, on your TV show, you had a guest, we literally had a call from the UAE, from an American in UAE, talking about this amazing story that The UAE may be using yuan or the yuan may be the currency for oil trading.
Why is nobody talking about this except you and my callers?
Yeah, this is such an important thing.
China has been looking for that moment in history when it could supplant the U.S.
dollar.
And while we are busy punishing Russia for a war that we failed to stop before it happened, we're putting all these after-the-fact sanctions in.
China is going around the world saying, listen, you don't really like the Americans right now.
Wouldn't you like our currency?
And they're trying to create opportunities like the digital one, which, by the way, they introduced during the Olympics just a month ago.
We are always having our eye off the ball in Washington these days.
China is always meticulously advancing its plan for world domination.
And our media should be covering the digital one a lot more aggressively than covering daylight savings time.
But I don't think that will happen in tomorrow's newspaper.
Now, you are the guy who always keeps his finger on the past when it comes to the Russia-Russia collusion hoax and what Durham is doing.
Any news, anything on the grapevine or any expectations you have in the near future?
You know, I talked to Grinnell, who got to see a lot of the DNI documents before they declassified, the ones that went to John Durham.
He said he's 100% certain that FBI employees committed crimes and he expects further prosecution.
I think that's a really interesting perspective from someone who saw the whole football field.
But I've got one on Hunter Biden.
We're going to break this tomorrow morning, but we'll give you a little scoop of it tonight.
The Secret Service on Valentine's Day sent a letter that said, didn't have a lot of love for Chuck Grassi or Ron Johnson.
The two senators saying, we can't find any record of any correspondence with Hunter Biden about his travels in 2010, 2011, 2013, even though we provided him a security detail during that whole time.
Well, guess what?
I found the emails.
They were sitting on Hunter Biden's laptop.
We're gonna show everybody what the correspondence between the Secret Service and Hunter Biden really looked like.
Wow.
And sometimes it didn't deal with travel.
It dealt with things like politics and personal favors.
So the Secret Service, to an official Senate request, denied the capacity to find email communications between the Secret Service and Hunter Biden.
It's hard to believe.
The chance that you didn't communicate with him while you were providing protection on trips that were like 40, 50, 100 trips, I forget.
I mean, it was laughable when we saw it.
But now we were able to go to the Hunter Biden laptop and just prove these agents were corresponding with Hunter Biden all the time.
We're going to have that tomorrow morning.
It should be a really fun day.
All right.
Justthenews.com.
Can't wait for that to break.
He always texts it to me as soon as it's live and we repost it.
Follow him.
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When's your show tonight?
6 o'clock on Real America's Voice.
Tune in.
We're going to have a really fun show tonight.
Really looking forward to it.
God bless you, John.
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So why do you like getting up in the dark, Mr. G?
I hate it.
Oh, you said you loved it.
I don't know, because I don't get up that early anyway.
I get up at 7.30.
So you don't care.
Do you care about this news or not?
No, I do.
I like it being more lighter.
Lighter, yeah.
I agree.
It sucks in November when all of a sudden it gets dark at 5.
Yep, agreed.
Oh, yeah.
Is this woman dead now?
Is that journalist with the sign just disappeared?
Probably.
Most likely.
You're gonna let, I mean, if you're Putin, you're gonna let that loose end walk around?
No.
I might use Doocy to come in with an A. So Conrad can react to it.
That's cut three, you got it.
Oh, can you play cut two?
And now, second big reason for inflation is Vladimir Putin.
Yeah, right.
Definitely not.
Oh, can you fix the whiteboard?
Um, yes.
Sorry about that.
So it's, it's what, Zelda and 2D?
Zelda is 2D.
Zelda is 2D.
Yeah, we'll do that at the top of the hour.
Okay, 30 seconds.
We've got merch here.
Oh, can you fix the whiteboard?
Yes.
So it's what?
Zeldin is 2D.
Zeldin is 2D.
Yeah, I'll do that at the top of the hour.
Okay, 30 seconds.
We've got merch here.
Standing by.
Okay, I'm starting to get sort of the theme.
I'm going to build some more bumpkins around this.
Got it.
All right.
All right.
Constitution, America first.
I don't check Mr. G out.
I just did a quick search because I need to share this with Lord Black.
It's already out there.
U.S.
Senate approves bill to make daylight savings time permanent.
I mean, it's not like there's anything else they need to be doing.
I mean, really.
What else could they be doing?
I don't know.
I'm just looking forward to Zelensky addressing the Congress of the United States tomorrow.
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John has been waiting very patiently in Tennessee.
Welcome, John.
Good afternoon, sir.
Thank you for taking my call.
This whole situation over there is very personal to me.
Two of my friends are in the region.
One has been a missionary actually in Ukraine for at least 10 years, maybe 15 now.
She evacuated successfully, thankfully, two weeks ago to another friendly country in Europe.
And then another friend of mine lives in one of the Baltic states.
So he's kind of seeing it He's concerned, as well, for his family's safety, for what's going on.
So, my proposal for the United States to do would be to follow the model of what we did with the Flying Tigers in China in World War II, before America was actually involved in a war.
We sent American planes and American fighter pilots over to China.
China paid for it all, and they flew and fought for the Chinese.
So, you know, in a modern—my modern version is, Let's see if we have American pilots who are retired from the U.S.
military who would be willing to come back and get back in the seat of an A-10, an F-16, an F-18, an F-15, and get some of those aircraft out of storage in Arizona.
We have dozens of them in storage in Arizona.
Take the wrapping off, get them activated again, get the pilots to knock the cobwebs off, and have the Ukraine pay for the pilot's salaries, pay for those aircraft.
And carry them over to Ukraine, paint them in Ukraine colors, and let them get some business done.
Look, I love the idea.
On paper, it's a no brainer, because I know there are hundreds, if not thousands of pilots who would do that.
But there's one big problem.
You need the US government to give permission, and they don't have the stones.
There is no way That Biden, Jake Sullivan, you know, Secretary of Defense, what are my pronouns, Lloyd Austin, would permit one of these pieces of American hardware to be shipped to Europe and to fly, to be flown under the Ukrainian flags.
But it's a great idea.
Stay on the line, John.
Let's reward him with a copy of the Wall for America's Soul.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Next up, Lord Conrad Black, Congressman Lee Zeldin and Secretary Robert Wilkie.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The End
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Mics are on.
Conrad!
Ordering a box of jihad sounds hilarious.
Conrad.
Yes, sir.
Greetings, how are we doing?
I'm fine, thanks.
How are you?
Good, good.
You sound very business-like.
Ready for work.
I've been negotiating, so I will change mode here to our usual.
Chuckularity.
Good, excellent.
If you'll indulge me, I'm going to come in with an amusing cut from the White House Press Secretary.
It's just 16 seconds long and then I'll come straight to you.
That's all right.
If you can find anything amusing with that woman, you're smart as man.
I know.
We call her Peppermint Patty here.
Standby.
60 seconds.
Oh!
Zelensky's addressing the Canadian Parliament.
Is that happening now?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
He does that today and he does us tomorrow, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Watching the News Fox Chiron.
Excellent.
Good.
Perfect timing.
All right.
And you've got the buffer with his books, right?
I have the presidential ones and then some of his biographies.
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
And now, the second big reason for inflation is Vladimir Putin and gas prices.
Not a joke.
Make no mistake, the current spike in gas prices is largely the fault of Vladimir Putin.
It has nothing to do with the American Rescue Plan.
That's the man who bears the title of president saying gas prices have nothing to do with spending trillions of dollars.
They're doubling down on the message.
His, what shall we call her, propagandist-in-chief was challenged by Fox's Peter Doocy to the same effect.
Play cut.
Inflation goes up today.
The president's statement blames the Putin price hike.
Are you guys just going to start blaming Putin for everything until the midterms?
Well, we've seen the price of gas go up at least 75 cents since President Putin lined up troops on the border of Ukraine.
And last month, the statement didn't mention the Putin price hike.
It mentioned inflation because of the pandemic.
Why is that?
Well, Peter, last year, last two years, there was a global pandemic.
Everyone who's a global economist have all agreed that that has been the biggest contributor to date of inflation because of the impact on the supply chain.
Obviously, global events impact the economy, the global economy, as well as global inflation.
Is it Putin?
Is it COVID?
Is it the supply chain?
Let's ask a man who follows American politics very, very closely.
Presidential historian, columnist, financier, justice reform advocate, co-host of the Scholars Incense podcast, our regular guest, Lord Conrad Black.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
Glad to be back, even following Jen's sentence.
I apologize.
I don't usually play cuts with you because our callers, our listeners, so enjoy just listening to you for our two segments every week.
But somebody sat down and did the math after that challenge.
And we've had a $1.92 increase of gas prices since the administration changed.
And only $0.70 of that has occurred in the last three weeks since the war began.
So is this blame Putin tactic going to be effective in a midterm year?
And does the actual mathematics of the case matter?
The mathematics could be claimed to be relevant, but no.
To answer the first part of your question, no, it won't work.
It's bunk.
I mean, the President is saying not one square inch of NATO territory has been attacked.
So what?
I mean, you might as well say Paraguay hasn't been attacked, or, you know, New Zealand hasn't been attacked.
I mean, the Russians haven't been threatening any NATO countries, so the fact that NATO hasn't been attacked is irrelevant.
And he says that Putin is responsible for price increases, especially in gasoline, and that's rubbish.
I mean, he's maybe partly responsible for the last part of the price hike, but as even Steve Ratner, who was a partisan Democrat and was associated with the Obama administration, but a capable and respected man in financial circles, said that this is nonsense.
Uh, the results for the last revealed month, month of May, sorry, of February, had practically nothing to do with the Ukraine and related events.
Right now we are seeing the Chiron on TV, news reporting breaking news that President Zelensky is addressing the Canadian Parliament.
Tomorrow it will be Congress.
As somebody who's written seminal works not just on President Trump, we can put those works up on the screen right now, but also on FDR and on Richard Nixon.
How much is Zelensky's performance in the last three weeks I think you've got two elements here.
to what statecraft looked like is this a reminder that that western politicians should um pay more attention to lord black i think you've got two elements here in the first place he is a professional entertainer right and and he's a showman and he knows a lot about the presentation of what he wants to say and
And I know that that assisted him in being elected in the first place, not because alone of his celebrity, but because of his talent at putting out his personality and his ideas.
And this business of just going out of doors in Kiev and impromptu speaking to handheld cameras and microphones is tremendously effective.
So I think he's a pioneer in that respect.
But in a larger sense, this emergence of a moral hero, of an oppressed people, it's a little like Valencia and Nelson Mandela.
Now, these people are easily distinguishable, they're not interchangeable, but the principle is the same, of a charismatic, determined, and very articulate leader, of a, in this case, nationality that is being subjected to this outrageous and illegal and, in many respects, barbarous invasion.
This is something that people, civilized people, naturally sympathize with, and especially so when the chief spokesman of the oppressed group is so articulate and so evidently physically courageous and so effective a spokesperson as he is.
There are technical aspects of it that will doubtless be emulated, but the posture of the President of Ukraine is one that has admirable historical antecedents, including very great statesmen such as Winston Churchill.
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As I reminded my listeners earlier today, we have nigh on three years left of this administration.
As somebody who's written about some of the most important presidents of the 20th century,
Is there a recovery, historically, from being in a situation where nations that rely upon us so much for their survival, like the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and UAE, blatantly not returning the calls from the current incumbent in the White House, what does that betoken for the next three years?
I am afraid it indicates that those countries will seek support elsewhere.
And they are, from all accounts, the most concerned of any except Israel about the implications of Iran becoming a nuclear military power.
And there's no secret about the fact that the Saudis have urged successive American administrations to do the necessary to prevent Iran becoming a nuclear military power.
So in the apparently impending total surrender that the Biden administration proposes to make to effectively using the Secretary of State's mind, green light, the elevation to the nuclear military power of Iran, the green the elevation to the nuclear military power of Iran, the green light, the phrase he used about the MiGs going from Poland to Ukraine before he was contradicted by the Pentagon spokesman,
You know, the idea of Iran not only becoming a nuclear power, but effectively the blessing of the United States, whatever their official verbal position, indicates, I think, and I think we can understand why, that neither the Emirates nor the House of Saud, who went out of their way to cooperate with the Trump administration and conciliate Israel,
and keep a solid front against Iran, feel that the United States has just let them down, just dropped the ball.
And they're looking elsewhere to make arrangements to protect themselves.
And there is no way that this can be presented to Senator other than yet another rebuke for the U.S. and yet another failure for this policy of appeasement of America's enemies.
And the breaking news that Saudi Arabia is considering accepting the digital Chinese yuan instead of the U.S. dollar for oil payments? - Yes.
Well, I think that's a token of the same phenomenon.
I mean, if they don't feel the Americans are acting in a way that is protective of Saudi's interest, then why should they continue facilitating anything the United States is doing?
And I think all this is temporary.
I think, you know, whatever happens in three years, I think you'll have a much more purposeful administration.
And at that point, it'll be possible to go around and pick the pieces up.
I mean, let us face it, many of America's allies today are countries which at one time had terrible Disagreements such as Japan and Germany and Vietnam and so on.
Vietnam isn't exactly an ally, but it's a cooperating friendly country.
And so these things can be put back together, but as your comment implied, the next three years, if it's going to be three continuous years of what we've had for the last 15 months, It is going to be a very, very difficult time, and you have to assume that a good many countries will consider... We'll be following the lead of those who are already not returning calls.
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I am all for that.
I think it gets dark much too early in January and February.
Priorities, I guess.
It used to be that we didn't want schoolchildren going to school in the dark.
Yeah, I guess much too early in January and February.
Yeah, priorities, I guess.
First world problems.
It used to be that we didn't want school children going to school in the dark.
Correct.
I don't know.
I'd rather, you know, if I've got to either go to school in the dark or come back in the dark, I'd rather they, you know, I don't know.
I just like the daylight staying up a little longer.
So did your negotiations go well?
Yeah, yeah, they played well, thanks.
Good, good.
I've got a number of businesses I participate in the management of up here, so I have to I have to earn my crust, you know.
Sing for your supper.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm just going to get my other phone here.
Sebastian?
- When you tell him I'll call him back, he can turn on the radio and hear me.
Yes.
- Sebastian?
- Yes.
- Sorry, someone was phoning me.
Look, it's hard for me to judge when the, you know, you've got to make a break.
And so that's why I try and leave it so it's easy for you to cut me off.
No, I appreciate it.
I guess we start music about 30 seconds before the break, but I'm not sure the caller can hear that or it must be difficult to hear.
I see.
Well, I didn't hear it.
Look, I mean, everything is falling apart.
It's a shambles.
With that said, The Ukrainians, as long as we can get some...
Anti-aircraft defense for them.
I think you're not in bad shape here.
We spoke to our war correspondent for Newsmax, for the TV show, and it was stunning.
He's a former Ranger.
And they've captured, in the first two weeks, they captured 250 tanks.
And I don't mean destroyed.
I mean captured 250 Russian tanks, which is in two weeks.
They were abandoned by the tank crew.
Yes, it's incredible.
I mean, that just speaks to the complete absence of morale.
Yeah, that's not the Red Army that conquered Berlin.
Nope.
Nobody was abandoning T-34 tanks when Uncle Joe was commander.
Right, because they'd get shot.
Yeah, but obviously they didn't have a clue what they were doing.
And by the way, you notice our great General Milley announced that Kiev would fall within three days.
I missed that!
He actually said that?
Yeah, he said that right at the beginning.
Eric, can you find that for me?
What did Milley say?
He said that Kiev would fall in days.
Three days.
Three days.
They did send those.
Yeah, February 6th.
General Milley says can't evolve in 72 hours.
Print that for me, Eric.
Uh, yes.
Stand by.
We're gonna do... Israel here.
Yes.
20 seconds.
Yes, indeed.
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Lord Black, thank you for the assist there.
I had a Biden moment there for a second.
Let's talk about this spectre that we have three years left constitutionally of this administration.
You always are so assiduous in your saying you're not a psychiatrist, you're not a psychologist, you can't get into the heads of those that we are talking about.
However, politically, are there scenarios within which the Democrat Party ...finds rationality or common sense, because we were playing clips today and yesterday of members of the cabinet saying, yeah, this is a great opportunity, the war with Russia is a great opportunity to get rid of fossil fuels and, oh, you can just buy a Tesla.
Just such, if not arrogance, detachment from reality and what the average American lives.
Is there any way in which suddenly they have a cold shower and act a little bit more reasonably?
I think we have to wait for Election Day for that.
I mean, it appears that, and I don't know how this happened, and historians well-connected with these events, or at least capable of ascertaining exactly what happened, will have to analyze this.
But the Democratic Party, which in fairness was under President Clinton, for example, you know, it was a center-left operation, but it wasn't in any sense extreme.
Or absurdly careless, reckless regime.
They balanced the budget generally, and they behaved... I mean, I personally wouldn't have, if I'd had a vote, wouldn't have voted for President Clinton, but you can't say it was an extreme or irrational concept of government that he had.
And most of the senior people he had were people you could deal with.
Here we have the great Democratic Party taken over by an outright socialist movement infested with anti-Americanism.
I mean, essentially a self-hating movement, but convincing itself that it wasn't self-hate, it was patriotism because it wanted to make America better by curing it of these terrible, horrible, cancerous problems and failings it supposedly has.
And this is nonsense, and the great majority of Americans don't believe it.
I mean, obviously there are things that can be improved, there are things that everyone in every country regrets about the country and hopes can be worked on and prepared, but this wokeness, this anti-patriotism, this anti-Americanism, this compulsive
ignorant revisionism of history where Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln were in no sense friends of African-American rights and where the revolution itself was essentially a proposition to preserve slavery and expand it.
This kind of nonsense doesn't represent more than at a maximum, I would say, 15 or 20 percent of opinion.
And most of that opinion is very fragile because it is demonstrable rubbish what has been presented here.
And how that group, Bernie Sanders himself, the ostensible leader of it, says it's not more than a third of the Democrats, how they got hold of the policymaking apparatus of that party, It is something that I think historians and just political scientists will want to know.
But that's the way it is, and they are riding like the Light Brigade into the Valley of Electoral Debt.
They're not trying to finesse it.
They're not trying to do a course correction as we get closer to Election Day.
They're saying full speed ahead.
You know, our problem is we haven't been radical enough.
And they can't get anything through the Congress, even though they ostensibly control the Congress.
And they're just going to be hit between the eyes or right on the forehead with a two-by-four at a great velocity on election day, I think.
When it comes to that ideological driver, the wokeness, and I don't want to be overly optimistic, but
Is it feasible that what we are seeing, the ruddy-faced 18-year-olds in Ukraine fighting for their nation after three days of training, the maternity hospitals being shelled by the Russians, could that be the beginning of a death knell for the grip that wokeness has over Western politics?
I think it can certainly contribute to it because I think it makes everyone, including the woke themselves who are still
Capable of thinking conscientiously of what a contrast there is between these people defaming their own country, demonstrating often violently, the summer of peaceful protests, as we know, caused over $2 billion of damage across the country, and injured 700 people and killed 40-some people, I believe.
There's a contrast between that and these people literally putting their lives on the line to defend their country and to defend a concept of human dignity and civil liberties.
Ukraine isn't a perfectly politically functioning state.
It hasn't been successful at self-government, but it is A people with the consciousness of themselves and the determination to maintain their independence and to build a fine country there.
And, you know, precisely the sentiments that inspire every serious nationality in the world, including, obviously, the United States.
And the contrast between the courage of these people and the self-indulgent, morally corrupt, and frequently violent criminality of the forces of protest and negation and nihilism in the United States, and to some extent other countries, is extremely clear and striking.
I mean, I go back to what, before either of us was born, but what Mr. Churchill said in 1940, when Russia attacked Finland, the Soviet Union, he said, the Finns, and he said it the following year, the Greeks too, The Italians and Germans attack Greece.
The Finns are showing the world what free men can do.
And you know, that is something that can inspire anybody.
And the conduct of this lumpen pretentiousness of woke mental decomposition.
If life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness applies to Americans, it applies to Ukrainians as well.
We've been talking to Lord Conrad Black, co-host of Scholars and Sense.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Your call's next.
Thanks.
Sebastian, what's your read?
Do you think the Congress, where we seem to have a bipartisan consensus here, He's going to push Biden into helping Ukraine with anti-aircraft defenses.
That's what they really need.
Well, you described it so well yourself in that segment.
I mean, this disastrous, you know, we're going to do the backfill with Poland and then canceling it is ridiculous.
It's totally insane.
Can you imagine if the Pentagon spoke to and contradicted Henry Kissinger or Secretary of State or John F. Kellis or James Baker or George Shultz?
The guy would have been turned over on a spit at a barbecue.
Name me anybody right now, just one individual at the level of a Dean Acheson in this administration.
Just one.
Or dollars.
You know something?
No, no, nothing at that level.
But the one guy, I mean, I don't like him because he was so up to his eyeballs and chicanery and treachery with the Hillary Clinton campaign.
But the one guy that strikes me as smart enough to actually negotiate with nasty foreigners is Sullivan, Jake Sullivan.
That guy just sounds to me like he actually knows what he's doing.
I don't know.
I think he's sleazy, but I think he's knowledgeable.
I don't know.
I don't think, you know, up against Russian negotiators, I don't think Jake Sullivan would stand a chance.
You know, you remember Vernon Walters?
Yes.
You know, he was the translator for all the presidents from Roosevelt to Reagan, I think.
He said to me that, you know, some of them just from his perspective, he could see you couldn't trust them, you know, not to have their pockets picked dealing with foreigners.
And he had a scale of how he rated them.
And the one he rated as the most esteemed at dealing with foreigners was Nixon.
Oh, I believe that.
I believe that.
I agree.
Absolutely.
Eisenhower was pretty good too.
I'm sure he was.
Alright, thank you Conrad.
Not a bit, we'll talk next week.
God bless.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Titles, Solomon and or Black?
Solomon.
Maybe something fun like the daylight savings thing.
Oh, yeah.
Daylight savings is canceled.
No, it's permanent.
Oh, yeah, okay, permanent, so... Breaking news from the Senate.
Daylight savings is permanent.
Have you updated your phone lately?
Yeah, why?
It sucks when you get a preview text and you're texting somebody else that goes the other person.
Oh, I hate that.
Like three times in a row.
I hate that.
Yeah, I've done that several times.
It just started since I did the update.
Do you want the phones open?
I'm gonna...
Yeah, leave him open.
If I play the BBC cut again, can we kill it?
Who controls the sound on that?
Do you control the sound on video?
It's a video cut, so I control it.
So if I start doing this, like two minutes in, you can just slowly... I can do that.
It's a little bit long for today.
Do you want to come in with it?
No, I want a teed up.
Okay, teed up.
Okay, copy that.
All right, 15 seconds. - You guys.
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My children grew up not too far from the Ukrainian border in Hungary, which borders Ukraine.
And my son, who's a free man living here in America, he has been shaken by the war in Ukraine because, as he said to me, and I'm surprised he said this, what's happening to those young men could so easily be happening to me if we still lived in Hungary.
And he shared with me this video, it's from the BBC, about an 18-year-old and a 19-year-old.
And I want to show it to you because if there's one thing we need above all else at times like these, it is moral clarity.
Play cut.
Pictures of Russian forces, time and place indeterminate, emerge from their side.
Among their potential targets here in Kiev, no one knows their precise orders, but they're assuming an attack is coming.
On the Ukrainian side, they're trying to make checkpoints into real obstacles.
The professionals are a few miles closer to the Russians.
The soldiers here are all volunteers, but they are still expected to fight, even with only a few days training.
Just over a week ago, I met two university friends, Maxim, age 19, and Dmitro, 18, as they signed up in Kiev.
What are you studying?
I'm studying economy, and I'm studying biology.
Most of the recruits that day were about the same age, making jokes to hide their nerves.
When they lined up outside, they looked as if they were off to a festival.
Except for the guns.
Now Dimitro and Maxim have been given uniforms, three days training, and they're facing the Russians.
Pretty get used to my gun.
I learned how to shoot and like act in the battle.
Also many other things that will be very crucial during the fight with some Russians.
I feel much more confident than I was before because we get enough knowledge in tactics Do you think the battle is coming for Kyiv?
Yeah, it's definitely possible, but we just have to stop them here in Brovary, because if they get to Kyiv, this war probably might be over.
What do your parents think about what you're doing?
Mom, I'm on the war.
I'm fighting with the gun in my hands.
And she said, oh, Maxim, don't joke with your mother.
It's war.
Just sit in the shelter and do your work, volunteer, or do something else.
Do you feel scared?
Not much, but it's human nature to feel scared.
And of course, deeply in my soul, I feel a bit scared because no one wants to die, even if it's for your country.
So death is not an option for us.
Just that one line.
Nobody wants to die.
Even for their country.
But death is not an option.
And they're going to fight.
Maxim and Valerie.
Eighteen and nineteen.
That is the spirit on which our nation was founded.
Let us please have some moral clarity about what is happening in Ukraine right now.
It is the spirit of 1776.
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Delighted to have with us Congressman Lee Zeldin from New York, who's running to be the governor of New York with some very exciting news.
Tell us what you texted to me earlier today, Congressman Zeldin.
New poll out in the blue state of New York.
We are polling above the sitting incumbent Democrat Governor Kathy Hochul.
The poll came back.
We were at 45.5 percent.
Kathy Hochul was at 44%, and if the election's today, I'm confident that we would be elected the next governor of the great state of New York.
How is this possible, Congressman?
The incumbent usually has a massive, massive edge.
Why is this woman such a disaster?
We have one-party rule right now in D.C., Albany, and New York City, too.
It's actually the first time in my lifetime with one-party rule at every level of government at the same time.
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Who feel like their party is leaving them, because it's not all AOC types in the Democratic Party.
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And I mean, people just don't feel safe outside of their home in New York right now, Seb.
Many New Yorkers tell me about this.
Yeah.
They tell me how they feel like if they go to Florida, that their money will go further.
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Just now, the President of Ukraine has addressed the Canadian Parliament.
Tomorrow, he will be addressing you and your colleagues on Capitol Hill.
Talk to us about... I don't think we've spoken since the outbreak of the war.
Talk to us about America's performance so far, Congressman.
Well, America's performance has been really bad because of the consequences of decision statements made at the highest levels of our own government.
Over a year ago, when Biden comes into office, he decides while canceling Keystone XL Pipeline to fast track Nord Stream 2.
A few weeks before Ukraine decides I'm sorry, Russia decides to invade Ukraine.
Joe Biden gives a speech where he greenlights a minor incursion.
Now, the White House, they tried to clean that up, but the damage was done.
They were talking about that one over in Russia.
And then you have the Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, who was acting as if the threat of a strongly worded letter from the State Department with Antony Blinken's signature on it was going to somehow instill fear on the part of Vladimir Putin and his counterpart Lavrov.
The sanctions that they were threatening did not have a deterrent effect, and obviously it didn't.
And then Russia decides that Putin specifically decides that he's going to invade the territorial integrity of a sovereign neighboring nation.
Now as far as the people of Ukraine, Uh, right up to the top.
And you and I were talking about this off air.
I remember last August when Ghani in Afghanistan was, he caught in Iran.
He was the first one to get out of that country.
And then Zelensky on the other hand, this is leadership.
He decides he's going to stay.
He's going to fight with a sense of pride, of nationalism, of patriotism.
He is going to fight and defend his country and people who are kids, others who are seniors.
They all decide that they are going to join the ranks of the defense of their country.
They're going to fight back, and here they are, still alive with Ukrainian flags flying.
It certainly hasn't been easy, and it's been with a lot of pain and death.
There's been a huge cost to this, but Russian flags are not flying in Kiev.
Yeah, it is so impressive that you know of what you speak.
You're a military intelligence professional in the U.S.
Army.
It's time for some real leadership in Western civilization.
Hopefully tomorrow we will hear directly from President Zelensky as he addresses Congress.
In the meantime, follow this man, Rep Lee Zeldin, also Lee Zeldin on Twitter and the webpage right now.
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Yeah, do that and do sake.
Okay.
All right.
Do we have promo?
Yeah.
Tenny.
Oh, good.
Nice.
Horn.
Yep.
Trish.
Trish.
Duff.
Duff.
Okay, thanks.
And then we've got to do the read that read that real quick And also titles for black and Zelda And I want you to post that thing I did with the video today in C. Just cut out the, you know, before and after or whatever.
I just want me teeing that video up and then the video and my response to it.
Yes.
That was in C. That was C, yes.
Okay, gotcha.
I should have that.
Yeah, I have that.
Alright, let's do the... Oh no, we don't have time.
We just... We'll do it right after.
We'll do it after, okay.
I'm gonna get out of here to get to the movies.
Yeah!
What's the movie again?
Empire Strikes Back!
It's only the best Star Wars movie.
It's why they consider it the best Star Wars movie.
See you at the concession counter.
I would come if it wasn't this week.
I've got cool stuff.
Do we believe him?
Do we believe him?
No, you shouldn't.
I'll give it 4 Pinocchios.
I would consider it more if it wasn't this week.
Alright, 15 seconds.
Would he follow it having not seen the original movie?
He doesn't care.
It's a team building exercise.
What does he care?
He's the producer.
Come on.
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Wow, latest figures from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
Just broke 3 million refugees who have escaped Ukraine to neighboring nations.
Absolutely shocking.
God bless all the countries that are helping, especially the Poles that have accepted, I think, at least half of the 3 million.
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I believe, in your opinion, tell me if I'm right or wrong.
Is Stephen Colbert, or whatever his name is, saying everybody should buy a Tesla?
Is he as arrogant as Biden is confused?
That's a tough thing.
Is he as arrogant as Biden is confused?
I think it's hard to compare arrogance to somebody who's actually senile, but this is a man who earns about 1.1 million dollars a month.
That's Colbert.
And he just said, well, I'm satisfied.
We've got to, you know, step up to the plate.
I'd pay $15 per gallon if I had to, to support this effort.
That's probably easy for him.
I wonder when the last time is.
That he actually used a petrol pump, a gasoline pump, to fill up a car and it wasn't his limo driver.
But whether it's him, whether it's Mayor Pete, whether it's the Chief Economic Advisor to Biden saying, well the goal is to have zero fossil fuel usage and the easiest thing is just electric vehicles.
Just one.
Peter Doocy.
He might be listening.
He's a buddy.
At least his dad is.
Why don't you ask, Saki, why don't you ask the Secretary of Energy, Granholm, where does the electricity for the Teslas come from?
Is it magic?
Does it come out of the bottoms of unicorns?
No, it doesn't.
It comes from coal, it comes from gas-powered power stations, and those aren't going anywhere.
But that's the truth, and they don't care about the truth.
Thank you, Matt.
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Next up, Secretary Robert Wilkie from the Trump administration served in naval intelligence in the U.S.
Air Force, rose up in the ranks at the Department of Defense until he became the Secretary for Veterans Affairs.
What is the future of the current unfolding scenario in Europe?
That's next here.
One on one on America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
The End
The Fake News, they are fake.
The fake news said my... You know, when I first started in politics, I have to say that they had a very high approval rating.
Now they have an approval rating that's lower than Congress.
Isn't that nice?
So we got the point across.
The fake news said my personality would get us into a war.
I'm telling you, that guy's going to get us into a war.
But actually, my personality is what kept us out of war.
I was the only president in nearly four decades who did not get America into any new conflicts.
Instead, I brought our troops and our wonderful children back home.
I brought them back home where they belong.
That was of course the 45th President of the United States from the rally in Florence, South Carolina last weekend.
Personality, it matters in strategy and who better to discuss it with us than a man who, you open the faucet when you get analysis on Ukraine and he pours out of the faucet, former member of the Trump administration, Secretary of Veterans Affairs, now Senior National Security Analyst for Newsmax and distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation, Secretary Robert Wilkie.
Welcome to America First.
You clearly have a passion for history, not just national security.
As we were prepping for this show you talked about this funny story about General Montgomery that you can share with us later.
But let's go straight to the heart of the matter.
It's been four weeks of war in Europe right now.
I was on a British TV show at the weekend and a conservative outlet, but one of the guests used this trope about President Trump that he was so crazy and unpredictable.
My retort was there was nothing crazy and there was nothing unpredictable.
He said, America first, secure the border, treat our allies as friends and our enemies as enemies, which is what he did.
So talk to us about the importance.
And I know you've been responding to the rally on Newsmax.
Talk to us about the importance of personality in real politics.
Let me just say why President Trump was in the mainstream of real American leadership.
President Trump told the Europeans you have a GDP that's equal to the United States.
Your population is a little larger.
You have lived under the good graces of the American people for 75 years.
You have to pull your own weight.
John Kennedy admonished de Gaulle and Adenauer back in 1961.
He said you are living off the fat of the land, American land.
So this is the French president and the German chancellor.
Richard Nixon said we did not, quote, we did not win World War II to provide Europeans with two annual vacations.
Donald Trump was in the mainstream of that thought.
And this is why your point is so well taken.
This is a serious business.
It requires a steel spine and that sounds trite.
But aggressors know when they are facing someone who, yes, unpredictability in the mind of your enemy because of what you're doing.
is essential.
You don't want him to be able to figure out every step that you're taking.
In war, that's never good.
It's never good.
And the Duke of Wellington used to say that all the time about Napoleon.
I have to keep one step ahead of him.
He'll never know what I'm thinking.
And he was usually outnumbered by Napoleon.
But to get back to this.
So yes, Donald Trump forced Putin into a box because Putin couldn't figure out what the next move was.
And then when he saw the administration in action, 200 of his hand-picked Spetsnaz thugs evaporated.
And let's just talk about that for a second.
So this is the moment in the White House when President Trump saw the destabilization of Syria at the hands of hundreds of Russian quote-unquote contractors, who of course were special operators.
And we killed them.
President Trump gave the order to the SecDef and they were vaporized.
And SecDef's orders were very simple.
Two words.
Annihilate.
Right.
And they were annihilated.
And talk to us about the significance That Putin did nothing in retaliation.
He did absolutely nothing in retaliation because he realized he was up against someone who would strike back.
And he didn't know where he would strike back.
And that is the key.
I mean, you look at most of our great leaders have been incredible chess players intellectually, chess players.
Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, really.
They not only could see a chess board, but they were three or four steps ahead.
And they were constantly keeping the other side off balance.
President Trump did that.
And rhetoric is an awfully important tool in statecraft.
And often forgotten.
Often forgotten, because you can fool the opposition, you can cower the opposition, you can create a fog of war so the other guy has no idea what's coming.
And Trump did that as well as anyone, but let's contrast this.
You're talking about the British interlocutor that you had.
Donald Trump was not censured by the Parliament of the United Kingdom.
As Biden has been.
Donald Trump was not referred to when the President of France said that the White House was an existential threat to the very being of the French Republic.
He said that about Joe Biden.
Angela Merkel didn't say that Donald Trump had done more to disrupt the North Atlantic Alliance since NATO was founded.
She said that about Joe Biden.
Joe Biden abandoning thousands of Americans in Afghanistan and Taking leave of the scene without telling the British, the French, the Dutch, the Australians, the Italians.
Her Majesty lost 450 troops in Afghanistan.
Not even the courtesy of a phone call.
Before we withdrew.
Before we withdrew.
So Donald Trump didn't disrupt anything.
And you and I talked about the headline in the Daily Telegraph on their op-ed piece, op-ed page last week.
Daily Telegraph, one of the last of the great Newspapers in the world.
Donald Trump was right about Russia.
Had he been in office today, that would have deterred them.
We're hearing voices on the left say that now.
Yes, Bill Maher.
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
It's not advanced calculus or quantum physics.
Putin invades Ukraine under Obama-Biden.
Putin invades Ukraine under Biden-Harris.
What four-year interregnum there is there no activity?
Talk to us about the significance, given the fact The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates actually cannot survive without U.S.
support.
The fact that the two heads of state of those nations refused to return the call of the incumbent president.
What is the weight of that international issue?
It is seismic.
You and I left our last conversation with the thought that Joe Biden is losing the Middle East.
And I say that as the greater Middle East.
I want to throw Turkey in there as well, even though Turkey understands that when Russia moves, Turkey has to move, and they are.
But Joe Biden has thrown aside our Sunni allies.
He has thrown aside the Israelis.
As we speak, he is still working with Beijing and Moscow.
To curry favor with the Ayatollahs, who returned his favor with missiles into Kurdistan.
We'll discuss that next.
This is what's happening.
The Saudis have entered into a military cooperation agreement with Russia.
The Israelis have entered into an economic cooperation agreement with the Russians in exchange for the Russians not interfering with the Israelis when the Israelis go after Hezbollah and some of Assad's thugs.
That's seismic.
Because if you look at American statecraft, let's say from the time of Eisenhower and the Suez Crisis.
American statecraft was focused on preserving Israel and then kicking the Soviet Union slash Russians out of the Middle East.
Nixon did it.
It was clear to the Arabs they could never beat Israel, that no matter how many troops they flooded into the areas around Israel proper, the United States would always ensure that there were enough munitions to kill Arabs.
But now all of that has been stood on its head.
And all of that is actually endangered as we speak.
Finally, even those that elected President Biden are realizing the cost of that act.
We're talking to Secretary Robert Wilkie, formerly head of Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration.
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Secretary Wilkie, you mentioned the Erbil rocket attack targeting our consulate there.
Somebody Who will go unnamed in my team, texted me at the weekend, said, why are the Iranians firing missiles against Americans in Iraq right now?
And I said, because Joe Biden is in the White House.
Absolutely.
They want to confirm their own prejudices.
It's good enough for Putin.
Right.
And they confirmed them.
There was no response.
Let me take a step back on finishing the circle that Donald Trump closed.
Donald Trump fulfilled the promise of the Israeli national anthem, the Hatikvah, the hope means in English.
And there's a line in there about we look to Jerusalem to return.
And he fulfilled that promise that Jerusalem is the one indivisible capital of Israel.
And I know because you were there and I was there too, he told us that the Arabs would accept this for a couple of reasons.
One, they need a strong Israeli economy to work off of.
Second, they needed a strong Israel because they were more worried about Shia in Mecca than they ever were about Jews in Jerusalem.
And we saw a revolution in the Middle East, and within two or three weeks of this administration coming in, that was a shambles.
Look, before we go to that, how it was overturned, and it was a revolution in the Middle East that the Cognizante said was impossible.
Right.
Look, we even got to go back to Ronald Reagan.
Oh yes, we'll do this.
Of course the State Department said you'll inflame the Palestinians.
Well you and I know the Palestinian issue as the central fact of Sunni Arab life has been diminishing every year for 20-30 years now.
Because even the Arab leaders said these people are recalcitrant and they're now under the thumb of the Iranians.
They're ancient enemies.
Yes.
So Trump realized and he wanted to prove.
that by returning Jerusalem as the capital, by making it the center point of our diplomatic relationship, that the Arabs would accept it and then we could expand that to a more fruitful peace amongst those nations.
And look at it, it fell one after another.
Arab nations from Morocco all the way across to the Emiratis.
Diplomatic relations.
They're pretty close to having those relations now between Saudi.
Yes.
The Israeli leaders visit Riyadh regularly and that it's revolutionary and now that's that's blown and if you looked at the response in the UN General Assembly and you and I don't often look to the UN General Assembly for anything other than comedic relief The Arabs were quiet about Russia, and so was Israel.
So was Israel, yes, which is shocking.
And even India.
Let's discuss NATO.
Even India.
Even India.
Let's discuss NATO.
Yes.
There was a British air commodore who was said at a conference hours that many moons ago, as a British air commodore who served in NATO, NATO was a speed bump for the Third World War.
It was without American fifth article response, the nuclear umbrella, it really would have been a slight impediment to the Second Red Army.
What is the status now of NATO?
What is your read?
People are saying it's coming together, there is a revitalization.
Early to say, I would say.
It's too early to say that.
Let me give you a timeline.
When you are serving in the British Army, there was an element called the British Army of the Rhine, 60,000 troops.
Today, British presence on the continent of Europe prior to Putin, 2,000 troops in Estonia.
The German army, and I'm going to be absolutely blunt and I've said this at different War College lectures, is nothing more right now than an olive drab Meals on Wheels program.
Even their generals say we can't fight.
The German Chancellor has promised a budget that is larger than that of the UK for defence.
Since the war started?
Since the war started.
If that is true, Then we have an opportunity to have NATO once again become relevant.
But let's give credit where it's due.
NATO is definitely relevant in Poland, in Hungary, in Romania, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.
Those nations, those peoples who have felt the jackboot.
And who joined because of Russia.
They didn't join because of some massive transatlantic link.
Because of the threat of Russia.
Right.
Which is now real.
The historic threat.
So right now the British have an armored brigade in Poland.
We're not sending a very strong signal, because I can say this is because my father was a former senior officer in the All-American Division.
Sending a couple of thousand paratroopers to Poland and Romania, that's a speed bump.
Yes.
These are lightly armored.
They're elite, but they're lightly armored light infantry.
If we're going to do this, then the British, the French, the United States needs to shore up our friends on that eastern front and put armor and missiles and do those things that gets Putin's attention.
One benefit that we have, and I mentioned this to you last week, that one Guards Armored Brigade, which has a glorious history.
It's one of the most storied group of regiments in the history of warfare.
Could you imagine what they would do to Putin's armored columns?
It would be a shooting gallery.
It would be a sight to see.
Trust but verify.
Let's see if the Germans are right.
Because if they are, then NATO transforms.
If they're not, Then we're right back to where we were.
It's still early days.
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The fourth breakdown of negotiations between Moscow and the Ukrainian government.
Let's put this in the context of the last three weeks.
Russia has not performed well.
I'm not talking about the brutality, I'm talking about just the military professionalism.
The sheer fact that we have from the Newsmax war correspondent on the ground, Chuck Holton, former Ranger, confirmation that they have captured in three weeks, not destroyed, captured more than 250 tanks.
What does the breakdown of negotiations presage?
I don't want to read too much into it, but how much pressure could Putin be in under right now?
I think he he is not desperate yet, but he's getting there because his entire face to the world, that the Empire is back, Imperial Russia is back, the steamroller is back, has proven to be a fraud.
The notion that he could take on even the Polish army right now is now up in smoke.
He would be devastated by attacking those NATO Eastern European members.
He's going to have to look for a way out.
Because as each day goes by...
He is, and we'll have to get to your comment about the assault on the civilian population.
According to, by the way, according to the Ministry of Defense in London, they're now starting to use white phosphorus.
And if anybody wants to know what that is, it was banned after World War I. When it hits the skin, the chemical reaction creates heat of about 2700 degrees.
It is one of the most terrible ways to die and this man is beginning to unleash it on civilians.
He's gonna have to find an off-ramp.
Do you have any sense of what he would settle for because right now I mean he's he's encircled Kiev and for him to come out of some talks in Vienna or someone else saying well we'll settle for you know you know Luhansk and Donetsk After you've lost 15,000 troops, could he settle for that or would he just keep on fighting?
I think he's going to keep on fighting for now.
What he would demand is he wants to keep Crimea.
He wants a pledge that NATO will not bring Ukraine in or the EU.
What does he fear?
Democracy in Russia.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That is what he fears.
And the Russians, because of their historical relationship with Ukraine, which is sort of, of course, it's ebbed and flow through the centuries, see that.
They're Slavic people, although one's Catholic for the most part and the other's Eastern Orthodox.
And one nation is much older and it's not the Russian one.
That's right, that's right.
You know, the 800, the Catholic Church of Ukraine's created in 800.
So Putin has to find some way to climb down.
My guess is he demands those two provinces in the east.
But there's no way, I mean it is literally the death of NATO if NATO agrees that Ukraine can never join.
Oh, I agree.
If NATO does.
If NATO acquiesces to that, then the meaning of NATO is gone.
Absolutely.
No, he could unilaterally.
He could unilaterally.
And then, by the way, we're just going to take every weapon and training, which is what they've been doing.
You and I have talked about the UK.
I mean, the UK, under Mr. Johnson, they've had 20,000 troops in and out of Ukraine training people.
I mean, it's really a huge commitment on the part of London.
Most of the weapons that have taken down Helicopters and planes have come from the UK stockpiles.
And no, we could supply them.
We can continue to train them.
We can make NATO relevant again by having the Germans live up to their commitment.
But also, forget Putin's bluff.
You want to call his bluff?
Finland, Sweden, Re-engage Turkey.
Turkey's providing a lot of munitions.
Yeah, drones.
Tank-busting drones.
Turkish ships are shadowing Russian ships in the Black Sea.
Big, big stuff.
We are analyzing it all with the Senior Visiting Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, former Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie, now Senior National Security Analyst for Newsmax.
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We haven't rehearsed any of our talking points.
We don't need to.
We both love this kind of material, Secretary Wilkie.
So I'm going to go a little bit off tangent.
Before you do, I've said some things about the British commitment to NATO and how that's dropped off.
They're not the only ones.
Here's a frightening statistic from the American side.
We have more generals in Europe than we have rifle company commanders.
That's the imbalance that has occurred.
We have a top-heavy military and it's the sad thing is a lot of those general flag officers are also woke.
They are politically correct and that's when you stop being a military professional and you become an activist and it undermines our national security and guess who knows that?
Putin knows it, the Mullahs know it, Xi Jinping and also a little Kim in North Korea.
Let me ask you if you've had any success or any ideas on how we deal with something that I fight every single day.
When I get off air and I get on social media, and I admit I spend far too much time on it, I have people, some of them are trolls, some of them are bots, but some of them are real accounts that are putatively conservative, say they're conservatives or Trump supporters, and they're spinning these
Outlandish conspiracy theories or even just simple statements that Putin is defending himself, we're the aggressor, biodefense labs were going to launch a US attack on Russia, he's stopping the Nazi genocide, Zelensky is a puppet of the World Economic Forum, When hospitals are being shelled.
Let me put it thusly.
I remember a time not too long ago, Secretary Wilkie, where conservatives hated KGB colonels.
Putin is a KGB colonel.
I know people distrust the media, but is there an excuse for this kind of behavior?
There isn't.
We saw it in the 1930s.
There's a strain on this country.
The greatest of American heroes, living American heroes, was the face of pro-German isolationists.
I'm talking about Charles Lindbergh.
He would have massive rallies.
He was going around the country and saying that Germany is the wave of the future and what's the difference between German hegemony in Europe as opposed to British hegemony in Europe.
This is a strain that has been with us.
Is the source of this?
Is the gene code of this?
Because some of it's very, very ugly.
But does it stem originally just from some isolationist strain?
Well, I think so, but there's also another strain, and it's the ugly side of what conservatives are engaged in in the culture war.
And I've talked to these people.
They think because Putin parades with the patriarch of the Orthodox Church, and he talks about Orthodox Christianity, and he talks about those issues that are now dividing the United States, and he talks about them in biblical terms.
They think, oh, this guy's all right.
He's talking about patriotism and the church and traditional values.
But this goes back to how you started the question.
American conservatives were in the vanguard of warning the world what the KGB was and now is.
And I think there are a lot of misguided folks.
And then on the left, you don't have to go any farther back than 50 years.
50 years in August, George McGovern stands in front of the convention in Miami and mouths those words, come home America.
We'll let the Russians do what they want to do.
Come home America.
You've got a picture in here of Twin Towers as they looked on September 10th.
That sunny Tuesday morning.
And the day before.
This world is no longer safe.
An America that retreats back behind its oceans.
We're not saying get involved in every conflict.
I've said to you that I think Donald Trump understood That the way America can guide the world, the way America wants, is to bring back the Truman Doctrine.
The Truman Doctrine said that the United States will aid all free peoples resisting subjugation from armed minorities, that sounds familiar, and outside forces.
We don't have to put American troops on the ground everywhere.
And we don't have to be – you and I are not neocons.
I mean, you and I considered it fantasy and almost lunacy for that group of American policymakers – and I'm putting up my air quotes – to want to turn Kabul into Paris.
That's not us.
We have to have a sense.
We can combine realism with American principles and straightforward American support for free peoples and we can help shape the world.
But right now we're just reacting and Putin is in Biden's head, he's in the head of Some members of the Republican caucus in the Congress, although some of them are very quiet right now.
And that's very dangerous.
This dichotomy between providing back-filling F-16s to Poland, people say, don't do that because we'll be involved in the war.
Is that a false dichotomy if we've sent 10,000 Stinger missiles already?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And then this goes again.
I hate to quote Merkel because she did so much damage to Europe and to the world by hooking her country to the umbilical cord of Putin energy.
But she said that Biden has done more to rip the NATO alliance, the North American alliance asunder than any president since 1949 when it was created.
We are supporting the Ukrainians.
The Russians have asked the Chinese to support them.
Yes, that parallel.
That's right.
There you go.
That's right.
Is that an act of war of China against NATO?
Genius.
I think I see Secretary Wilkie's next op-ed piece.
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Secretary Wilkie, I don't want to paint the devil on the wall, but strategic discussions have to talk about various scenarios at the weekend, shutdowns.
Shelling, Russian shelling, came again very close to Polish territory.
Very significant NATO member, sizable country, understands what being under the yoke of Russian oppression means.
What is your expectation?
What happens if a NATO nation is attacked in the next few weeks?
Well, if a NATO nation is attacked, then we respond.
Right now, we don't have the conventional force to respond.
I'm sure with the forces that the British, the French, the Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians have, they could take out what Putin has in Ukraine, but not much beyond that.
The message that has to be sent is that the 1st Armored Division needs to be back.
We have to beef up USEFI, for those of you who don't like military acronyms.
That's United States, Air Force, Europe.
And we have to keep that pipeline open and call its bluff.
But that would take months.
I mean, you know, armor, moving armor.
Yeah, that would.
But in the meantime, Poland takes action.
Poland, but we start, we say we're supplying these people.
Go ahead.
He's working off an old template.
He really believes that the specter of the KGB colonel is going to start cowing people.
I think the only people that are frightened are the ones right across the river here.
Think about this.
Could you imagine Kennedy, Reagan, Truman, Eisenhower telling the Soviets what we won't do?
We're not going to do this.
Which breaks the first rule of warfare.
You've already set the parameters around which he can operate.
Right.
And he'll exploit that again, which is exactly what happened with Milosevic in Serbia when Clinton said, we will not deploy ground forces, we will not deploy air assault units.
Which, what happens?
Then you go ethnic cleansing door to door and you have no capacity to deal with it because what your adversary told you what they will not do.
Yeah, and remember, these are the same people who were in charge when he took Ukraine in 2014.
It's the exact same characters.
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Listen to the last long-form interview we did with Secretary Wilkie, where he left us with some homework, things you need to read the classic texts.
We're going to turn that into a social media posting, just that, the list of things that must be read by all American citizens, because now is the time to understand, as I think it was Trotsky once said, you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.