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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: January 6th: The day an insurrection didn't happen
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Well,
it has arrived, the anniversary of January the 6th, with the man who bears the title of president and the vice president making speeches and the continued attempt to exploit those events for political purposes.
We have a very special guest to open the show.
Before we get to him, and I want to play this for him, this is the narrative On January 6th, we all saw with our own eyes an attempted insurrection against our democracy.
So this is a video from ActBlue, the largest fundraisers for the Democrat Party.
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On January 6th, we all saw with our own eyes an attempted insurrection against our democracy, a violent and deadly revolt promoted by Donald Trump for which he was impeached a second time.
If not for the Capitol Police, this coup against our elected government might well have succeeded.
A full third of Republicans in all of QAnon think Trump will be reinstated to the White House soon.
These people think of themselves as patriots, but they are in fact traitors.
We need to call them and their demented leader Trump out for what they are.
Cowards playing dress-up with their camo and AR-15s.
Small-minded weaklings acting like they are the tough guys.
Turncoats who are deathly afraid of democracy.
This is not just like a crazy scene from some movie about a third world dictatorship, the despot who refuses to give up power.
It's criminal behavior right here in America, and it needs to be punished.
When we hear people speak out in support of Trump and his big lie, we are listening to insurrectionists who've betrayed her country.
I can think of no better guest to open our show today.
Here on America First with me your host Sebastian Gorka, then Hoover Institution's senior fellow classicist extraordinaire Victor Davis Hanson, author most recently of The Dying Citizen.
Professor Hanson, welcome to America First.
Thank you for having me.
So let me just, I noted some of the words from that brand new video that has been posted on the internet.
President Trump affected a coup, an insurrection.
His supporters are traitors, brandishing AR-15s, who are afraid of democracy.
President Trump is demented.
Just your reactions to those adjectives alone.
Well, I had criticized it as sort of a buffoonish riot, but insurrection and conspiracy are precise words.
So let's just break them down.
The FBI ran an investigation.
They found no conspiracy.
You can't have an insurrection unless people are armed.
There were nobody that entered the Capitol that possessed or used a firearm.
And we had headlines that five people died and an officer had been murdered.
The officer, Brian Sicknick, died of natural causes.
We didn't find that for days.
Because the media alleged that he had been bashed in the head by a Trump supporter or suffered an allergic reaction due to bear spray by a Trump supporter.
So what we were left with of that commercial was a 105-pound, 14-year-old, 14-year military veteran, Ashley Babbitt, who was lethally shot for the crime of entering a window in the Capitol, breaking and entering, either a low-level felony or a misdemeanor.
And we didn't get any information about the officer who shot her.
So the whole narrative is broken down, but I like clarity.
I like transparency.
So I think the best thing that should do is have an independent commission and let's get everything out.
Let's get all of the videos.
Let's get all of the communications about law enforcement between Democrats, Republicans, Capitol Police, administrators, everything.
Get it out in a nonpartisan, not a congressional Uh, asymmetrical, uh, investigation, but an independent sort of Warren commission.
Let's find out.
And let's see if anybody is, was there a FBI informant and maybe there were where, I mean, there were not, I don't know, but we don't have all of the information.
There's a reason for that.
And I, and I think they want to use this for political purposes.
And when the vice president compares it to Pearl Harbor, I mean, what, what is the data, the criteria?
It's a, it's an insult to the 2400 people who were killed.
And Pearl Harbor or the 750,000 that were killed in the Civil War, or, you know, it's even 30 people died in 120 days of continuous writing $2 billion in damage.
2000 military, uh, law enforcement officer were injured in the summer of 2020.
They, it wasn't just, you know, looting storage, which would be bad enough.
They attacked a federal courthouse, tried to burn it down.
The same thing with a iconic church.
Police precincts.
So let's have investigations of all of that.
I have no problem with that.
Domestic violence.
Left and right.
And then to see which qualifies as insurrections and conspiracies and which doesn't.
Lester, you're not familiar with what the good professor is saying.
This is exactly what the vice president said today with regards to comparisons of January the 6th.
This is cut to Kamala Harris.
No, no cut.
We'll save that for the next segment with Professor Hanson.
You've talked about what should happen.
We should have a bipartisan open investigation.
The thousands of hours of video tape from the CCTV system should be released.
That will not happen.
We know the January 6th committee as constituted is illegal.
There are seven Democrats, two Republicans who are not nominated by the RNC.
So given that reality, Professor, what are your expectations?
Will this committee that has subpoenaed my phone records as well, despite the fact that I didn't even speak on January the 6th, will this become a An even more radicalized political tool and if so, given that this is a midterm year, from the strategic perspective, is there not a significant danger of this becoming an own goal, of this backfiring for the Democrats?
I think it is.
What the subtext is, is they're going to magnify and extend this date, January 6, all the way for an entire year.
Along with the demonization of the now out-of-office Trump.
And why are they doing that?
You know better than I do, and so does your audience, that none of the issues that they are running on or can run on have majority support.
A left-wing poll today had Joe Biden's approval ratings at 35%.
Everybody knows that they have nothing other than conspiracy, conspiracy, just as if they've tried race, race, race, coup, coup, coup, takeover, takeover.
Democracy is going to die, die.
If we just keep sober and look at what's gone on the last 11 months, who are the people who are trying to end the filibuster, end the electoral college, dismantle the nine-person Supreme Court, get rid of the state's primacy in establishing, according to the Constitution, balloting laws and national elections?
Who's trying to get rid of a 60-year tradition of a 50-state union?
These are revolutionaries, but it's not coming from a bunch of clownish people that assembled and stormed into the Capitol.
And most people deplored that because I don't like anybody violating federal property.
I think it's a crime and it should be punished.
But let's go after the 14,000 people who were arrested, who committed a lot of crimes.
Where are the people who established an autonomous zone in Seattle and just created, you know, a safe space to commit a series of felonies?
Where are they now?
Are they in jail?
Are they under indictment?
Are they in prison?
Who killed the 30 people in that riot?
I haven't seen any trials.
30 people died.
Who killed them?
And I'd like to know.
But we don't have any.
Can't Merrick Garland take the FBI and say, you're not going to investigate parents at school board meetings anymore.
You're not going to go after Hunter Laptop's, the trail, what happened to his laptop or his sister's diary.
Let's just look at domestic violence all across the board.
And I don't think they want it.
They don't want to have that They don't want to have that enterprise at all because it doesn't yield political dividends for them.
And not only that, I believe if there were a transparent investigation of those events, the 40 deaths during the BLM Antifa riots, including Captain David Dorn and others, then there would be, I think, a pretty incontrovertible argument to be made that there is one political party that has normalized violence.
In the United States of late and it is not the Republican Party.
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I don't know
if you've been busy today like I have, but maybe I've been distracted, but I see today as a kind of damp squib.
I don't see this as the big success story for the leftist narrative, do you?
No, I think they overdid it, and I think people are getting tired of it, just like the racial... The BLM, you notice BLM is now, in the last three polls, it's got about 57%, 55% disapproval.
And it's the same thing.
They always overplay it.
People get tired of it.
And I think another week or two, if not now, it's already working for the conservative advantage.
How's the book doing?
It's doing very well.
It's still selling.
I got a call from the publisher a couple of days ago.
I think it sold 2,700 copies last week.
Nice.
Excellent.
I was shocked when I wrote my first book and I asked the publisher, when are you satisfied?
He said, oh, in America, if you sell over 5,000 books, that's considered a success.
So I was shocked.
But it's seven out of the nine weeks, first nine weeks, it was unavailable at Amazon.
So that hurt.
Wow.
It's, you know, it's still selling.
I'd love to see the director's cut version with all the things your editor asked you to remove.
I'd like to see the full version at some point.
I put a lot on my website.
Oh, good.
Good.
So from that book?
If you go back in Oh, September, October, November, I put about 40,000 words on it.
It's on the ultra, which is $5 a month, but I can give you Oh, no, I'll pay that.
That's that's fine.
Excellent.
Good.
It's there.
I'm glad I didn't want to see that lost.
No, it's there.
Good.
And I had all the editors I had at basic books were left wing.
Incredible.
That's kind of a redundancy.
All the editors are left.
Right.
Well, there's a resurgence.
I keep hearing, I think it's the third new book publisher I've heard of of late that is expressly for conservative authors.
I think Mark Meadows' new book is with a new... Post Hill, I think is the name.
So, I guess there's a new niche boutique market of conservative publishers evolving.
Well, one of the editors told me off the record their biggest problem... Hang on, hang on.
Mic's off, go ahead.
I can't, it's Skype audio, we can't turn the mic on.
Oh, we can't turn the mic off, alright.
Save that for later.
Sorry, yeah.
It's the issue with Skype.
You didn't do it a minute before.
What?
It's Skype audio, you can't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, unfortunately.
Fifty seconds.
Okay, Israel here.
We'll go to the cuts.
That story I sent you, that Act Blue, they've raised $602 million in the last six months.
I believe it.
602 million?
Wow.
That ad was so terrible, too.
The guy sounded half asleep.
Yeah, the voiceover wasn't exactly high energy.
Well, that's their mode.
It was so somber.
It's like the PBS, I'm on Valium.
This is NPR.
Yes.
So, you'll tee up the cut, so we're doing Israel?
Yep.
Okay.
Alright.
15 seconds.
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As Professor Hanson noted, this is what the Vice President had to say by way of comparison today for the January 6 attacks.
Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, but a place in our collective memory.
December 7, 1941.
September 11, 2001.
1941, September 11th, 2001, and January 6th, 2021.
So two events that were done by foreign actors, each of which killed 3,000 individuals, and an event in which one person died who was actually one of the protesters shot by a police officer in the morning.
It leads me to this question, Professor Hanson.
Is the Democrat party irrevocably disconnected from reality that they can make... I mean, a speechwriter or speechwriters had to write that, somebody had to okay it, and then the vice president had to read it.
What does this tell us about that party?
Yeah, I think our problem is that we're using these ossified terms, Democratic Party.
This is not a Democratic Party.
It's not Hubert Humphrey.
It's not Bill Clinton.
It's not even Barack Obama, who was a radical progressive.
This is something different.
This is, if I use the French Revolutionary term, it's a Jacobin, Neo-Bolshevik party.
And their idea is that the more radical you are, the more gains and power you accumulate.
And when you fail, It's not because you were too extreme, but because you were not radical enough.
We saw that after the Virginia setback.
They felt the problem was that we weren't radical enough.
Kamala Harris, the other thing I don't understand is that by mutual consensus, she's polling about Democrats and Republicans together.
She's polling about 25% to 30% approval.
Why would you put her out there with such nonsense?
The stereotype of her is that she's historically ignorant and clueless about past and present.
Then you put her out there and she confirms all of these generalizations about her.
I don't quite get it.
Why would they do that?
It only makes it look more ridiculous, the whole commemoration.
And like I said, I mean, when I woke up on January 7th, I went back and looked at some of the headlines.
I thought, because I hadn't followed it that day, I was out working and it was Five people killed, not died, five people killed.
Trump supporters go crazy.
Capitol officer murdered.
Armed insurrectionaries take over Capitol looking for Nancy Pelosi equipped with ties to kidnap people.
That's what I read.
And I don't think anybody today could print that.
And so it was sort of the same old, same old that we've seen from them.
And that's not excuse or it was a riot and the people were buffoonish and they got out of hand and they should to be, you know, for the damage they had inflicted, they should make, she'd be paid for it.
But the idea that's an insurrection, we had a 120 days where people use social media to plan attacks on federal facilities and Merrick Garland and Joe Biden are not only unconcerned, but Kamala Harris, you remember she urged people to, uh, Help bail out those who arrested, who had committed felonies.
And Merrick Garland said incredibly that terrorism doesn't occur after the sun goes down.
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Let's put this Jacobin comment in context.
Those kinds of cultic extremist movements, they have very few scenarios of evolution.
Either they eat themselves or they trigger a civil war.
What scenario should Americans expect if one of the two parties has become so radical that we can justifiably call them a Jacobin?
Yeah, we're waiting to see because I think they're going to suffer an enormous correction or defeat, whatever euphemism we use, in November, a year from now.
And are they going to go the way of the McGovern party?
McGovern drove the party over the cliff in 72.
And as a reaction, they ran people like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, Southerners.
The idea was you wouldn't be elected president in the Democratic Party.
Nobody trusted you unless you had a Southern accent.
Until Barack Obama was elected, we had not seen anybody become president from the Democratic Party since JFK.
They didn't have a Southern accent, and most of their candidates had, because that was something that reassured people that these people are not crazy.
So we'll see if that happens.
And if it doesn't happen, they will go, they will dig even deeper and they will disappear.
And then there will be somebody, I don't know what they'll have a third party or something, but the biggest news this year, Sebastian, is millions of people who don't fit their stereotypes of deplorables, African-Americans, Hispanics, Asians are starting now.
to understand that their alliance with the left has been suicidal for them in terms of cost of living, safety in their communities, and these boutique issues.
They're not boutique, but the left considers them a radical abortion on demand, or transgenderism, or teaching these things in the schools.
These constituencies don't like them, and they don't like the people promulgating them, and they're starting to make their voices heard.
And they're not going to react to that.
They're not going to moderate their views.
They're going to get shriller and shriller.
I don't think CNN is going to fire their, their administrative team and bring in people that were more reminiscent of the 2000s or 1990s.
It's not going to happen.
So they're going to go over the cliff and they're going to, their attitude is we don't have a majority of the people, but we do control the institutions, media, government, schools, entertainment, professional sports, wall street.
And we have, with that Silicon Valley ace card, we have more influence than the majority of the people have.
And so we're going to push this agenda.
We only have a minute left in this segment with Professor Hampton.
Given the figures for Glenn Youngkin's support amongst black Virginians and Hispanic Virginians, is that significant?
The amount he garnered in the Commonwealth, is that the trend we could see for the midterms?
Yeah, it is significant, Sebastian, because juxtaposed to that statistic is a steady erosion in the white working class, and now because of the crime issue, the suburban, proverbial, independent, or soccer mom, and they don't have a margin of error.
They've lost the white working class.
So they have to get extraordinary margins of minority communities to vote in block.
And when they don't do that, they're in trouble.
And that's what the polls are reflecting.
Today there was a civist poll.
And it was 35% approval and that shows you that minority and suburban support is now bleeding, I shouldn't say bleeding, hemorrhaging for Joe Biden.
And I don't, I think people, I guess the suspicion is when are people that are cool with cool heads going to have an intervention?
The question is, do they exist?
That was going to be my next question.
We'll ask it in the next segment.
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We'll be back with Professor Hanson after these messages.
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Doesn't the analogy break down in that maybe I just don't see it?
Where are the level-headed Democrats?
Who would be that, you know, inoffensive candidate who actually has any position of relevance in the Democrat Party today?
Well, it would have to be somebody I mean, I'm looking on this as an outsider, somebody like Joe Manchin or Senator Sinema, that profile.
And there are a few of them, not very many in the party and governorships and less in the House, a few of them, but there's not very many left.
And the reason, one thing I think we forget, Sebastian, is one reason that the squad
Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders that were all outliers and would could be considered just irrelevant took over that party was the old guard of the Harry Reid's and the Joe Biden's really didn't believe in anything they were up they they use their their office in the Senate to enrich their families their children and they flipped around I mean these when it was tough on crime and anti-abortion they were all for it when that when it wasn't they weren't and so
The left looked at that bankrupt old geriatric democratic party and they said, you know what?
They're all corrupt and we're going to take over.
And they were sort of like, I don't want to accuse them of being like that, but the analogy of Hamas taking over from the PLA, the idea that they were going to be radical reformers and they wouldn't have been successful if people had been credible Democrats that really cared about the middle class.
If the Chuck Schumers and the Dick Durbins and the Dianne Feinsteins had said, wait a minute, we have credibility and we're not going to go down that route, people would have listened.
But they had no credibility.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Come in with cut three from Biden and then I'll do locals and I'll go straight to Professor Hanson.
And this is a short segment and then we will release you.
All right, so you don't want no locals here?
I will.
Come in with three.
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Yep, coming in with cut three.
All right.
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There is simply zero proof The election results were inaccurate.
An angry old man saying there was zero proof of election fraud.
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We are back with Professor Victor Davis Hanson, author most recently of The Dying Citizen, How Progressive Elites, Tribalism and Globalization are Destroying the Idea of America.
Two questions just regarding that cart, Professor.
Isn't it strange in any country to see a head of state being so angry at the head of the opposition?
I mean, you know, anger, true anger.
Is that is that a winner in politics?
No, it's not.
And when they're trying now, you hear you hear a house efforts.
There's talk of house efforts of applying the 14th Amendment that was intended to disbar former Confederate officers from holding office in the future after the Civil War, that kind of stuff.
It shows you an obsession, a fixation, a paranoia about Donald Trump.
And where I work, I have colleagues of the same way.
They're fixated on Donald Trump.
And they're scared.
Why don't they just say, here's our agenda.
It's superior to Donald Trump.
But I don't remember George W. Bush bashing Bill Clinton all the time.
And after the first year, even Barack Obama did not beat the dead horse of George W. Bush.
And Donald Trump made fun of Obama, but after about a year he was on.
But this stuff is going to go on and on and on because they have no agenda.
We've never had a first year of a presidency that's been this disastrous as far as the polls.
It's not my view or your view, it's the polls view.
And the polls are leaning left anyway, so when you see left-wing polls saying that he has absolutely no support, You can see why he fixed states on Donald Trump.
Let's talk about the second comment that he made there, that there was zero evidence, zero national evidence of election fraud.
A lot of so-called conservatives, punitive conservatives, saying we've got to move on, can't talk about this anymore, talk about the next elections, get ready, voter fraud is the third rail.
What is the truth about this issue?
Is it not, if it is ignored, would it not remain a separating wound in the body politic?
And statements to the effect that it never occurred.
Your reaction?
Well, I read Molly Hemingway's book, read very carefully, and she made, I think, three points.
She didn't get into computers or tallying.
She didn't get into those controversies, but she just simply said, That from March until June, there were deliberate efforts, administrative and judicial, to change state legislature's voting laws.
And two, that had the effect of, in a mail-in ballot, to encourage that, where the rate of rejection, a normal rate that had been about three to five percent in most states, dropped down to 0.2 to 0.5.
And translated, that meant, Sebastian, that We went from a record high in 2016 of 40 million or so to 102 million.
But by a magnitude of 10, when we had over double the number of ballots, 64%, we didn't have very many rejections.
So that totaled about 4 or 5 million ballots that probably would have been rejected had we used normal rates of rejection.
And we didn't because the rules about address and deadlines and full names And the second thing she pointed out was, we've never had anybody pour $419 million, as Mark Zuckerberg did, into pre-selected precincts that really absorbed and colluded with state employees and registrars.
Mark Zuckerberg was running the balloting And the voting procedure and in dozens of very key precincts and swing states.
And I think that's what she pointed out.
And that's what they report.
And that's why they mentioned this, because they want this national voter law, which the John Lewis Act, which is unconstitutional because it overrides supremacy of state legislatures in this aspect of national voting but stunning yeah they're prepping the battlefield truly stunning that we have you know election laws that are backward by comparison to to india and mexico where voter id is mandatory quite quite stunning
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We didn't see a former president who had just rallied the mob to attack, sitting in a private dining room off the Oval Office in the White House, watching it all on television, and doing nothing.
For hours.
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Did you watch this?
This was all, I agree that his poll numbers are done, this was all just to at least get the base back.
Yeah.
He acted like he was so mad after Trump.
That's all it was.
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And they put you in a mood.
They touch on your heartstrings.
Question is, what is the emotion they should actually engage in you?
For many, it's what, excitement, the frisson of the thriller, or laughter, humor, the rom-com, you name it.
What about anger?
Do you want to be angry?
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By the producer, the successful actor Nick Searcy.
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It's called Capital Punishment with an O. Capital Punishment.
You can watch it, you can stream it, you can order the DVD at CapitalPunishmentTheMovie.com.
And we are delighted to invite back one of the subjects of that film, Derek Kennison, to talk about his experience, not on January the 6th, but after January the 6th.
Mr. Kennison, welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me back, Dr. Gorka.
Sure.
So you're one of the individuals who came to the Capitol a year ago.
You were there to provide security to help those who were potentially maybe, you know, older or, you know, children who needed protection.
Did you commit any crimes on January the 6th?
Did you break into Congress?
No, I did not step foot in the Capitol.
Okay.
So this is very simple.
I think they're just charging with thought crimes.
All right, so you didn't physically even step into the Capitol.
As a result, I'd like you to explain to our millions of listeners across the nation what happened to you and your family after January the 6th.
Yeah, it was February 19th, 6.02 in the morning.
I was awoken by a sound.
I heard a voice.
I thought maybe my daughter was watching a YouTube video real loud or something.
I went into my living room, saw the house was still dark, kind of heard a repeat, and it was like from a loudspeaker.
And I was like, man, what's that about?
And then I listened to it, and they listed my address.
It said, all occupants, this is the FBI.
We have a federal search warrant.
Come out with your hands up and nothing in your hands.
And immediately I kind of thought it was a joke.
I was in disbelief.
I ran to my front window.
I opened the shutters and I saw that there was flashing lights.
There was a big Bearcat tactical vehicle.
It had a battering ram that was extended out in the front of it.
It was pointed directly at that window that I opened.
I knew it wasn't a joke.
I closed the shutters and I ran immediately into my daughter's room.
Woke her up and all I could muster to say was, uh, sweetheart, you got to wake up.
Daddy has to go outside right now.
And, um, yeah, that's, that's how I was awakened that morning.
So you, you, your house was raided by federal agents, uh, with your daughter, your teenage daughter in the building as well.
What were you charged with, Mr. Kinnison?
Um, well, so that day it was not charged.
We lost him there for a second.
I know live Skype.
So you weren't charged that day, but what were you eventually charged with?
Um, charged with three felonies and two misdemeanors, um, ranging from, um, obstruction of an official proceeding.
Um, you know, aiding and abetting conspiracy.
A couple counts of trespassing.
So three felonies, two misdemeanors.
And what is the status of your case?
When are you having a hearing?
What are you going to plead?
Well, I've already actually had two arraignments where I've pled not guilty both times.
Uh, they keep doing status hearings.
They keep bumping them out 60 days every time they've asked everyone to waive their right to a speedy trial.
So it just keeps getting kicked on further down the road.
To my knowledge, there's not been any trials in the January six, um, investigation at all.
Although there's 705 people charged to date and 174 people have taken plea deals.
Yes, indeed.
And some of them are absolutely outrageous, egregious plea deals.
We have a website up on the screen right here.
GiveSendGo.com slash Derek Kinison.
That's where viewers can support you?
Yes, that's correct.
Alright guys, these people are being politically persecuted.
They need your support right now.
Derek is just one of hundreds.
We'll be talking to another individual whose teenage daughter was handcuffed in front of him when they raided his home.
You really must see all the details.
In the meantime, please support Mr. Kinison.
It's givesendgo.com slash Derek Kinison.
And I'm going to spell that for you, all of you out there, please write this down.
It's givesendgo.com slash Derek Kinison.
And that is D-E-R-E-K-K-I-N-N-I-S-O-N.
Mr. Kinnison, please stay in touch with us.
Give us updates as and when you have them.
Hold the faith.
There are millions of people out there who are with you and you are clearly, clearly an innocent man.
God bless you and Happy New Year.
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Sorry about that.
Okay, mic's back on.
Thank you so much.
Will you keep us posted? - That's it.
Yeah, most definitely.
I appreciate everything and God bless you and your team.
When's the next date?
When do you have to appear next?
February 4th.
It's going to be via Zoom.
for a status hearing, and they'll probably kick it out again.
Incredible.
Incredible.
All right, well, we're going to have Mr. Martinez in the next hour, so God bless.
Awesome.
He's a great guy.
Thank you for having him as well.
Of course.
Anytime.
Thanks, Derek.
Thank you very much.
God bless you.
Bye-bye.
Okay.
Titles.
It's available in Gravy now, so grab it for them.
Yeah.
I never even entered Congress.
Okay, NBH.
J6.
Oh, J6.
I never even entered Congress.
VDH, they've become neo-Bolshevik revolutionaries.
They've become neo-Bolshevik revolutionaries.
Okay.
And the pre-record?
20 seconds.
Oh wow, 20 seconds already, okay.
And we're doing...
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It is January the 6th.
This is what the putative president of the United States had to say about President Trump.
Cut for Sleepy Joe.
We didn't see a former president who had just rallied the mob to attack, sitting in a private dining room off the Oval Office in the White House, watching it all on television, and doing nothing for hours.
As police were assaulted, lives at risk, the nation's capital under siege.
Mr. G, in the break, when we reviewed that cut, you had something very interesting to say when I asked, why is he being so angry about fellow Americans?
What was your observation?
I think this is all about rallying up the base.
Because you heard VDH talking about the numbers, they're terrible.
The next thing that he's going to lose is the base, because he didn't do a lot of the things he said he was.
And that's what he was at.
It reminded me of all the people on Twitter that fantasize every day about Trump going to jail.
That's who he was speaking to there.
That's what it was about.
Right, so by being angry against 70 million Americans, he's not going to win anybody over.
But the situation is so dire for the Democrats and the administration that he's got to solidify the crazies of the base.
Yes, that's why he had to lie and say there was an armed insurrection.
That's misinformation.
Even Christopher Wray said that there was nobody with arms.
Yeah, but nobody, the only person who was shot was of course one of the protesters.
Today we will memorialize the anniversary of the death of Ashley Babbitt.
Say her name, Democrats.
Say her name, America.
Ashley Babbitt, 14-year Air Force veteran, multiple combat tours in the Middle East, and she was climbing through a window to be shot in the neck by a police officer who had multiple disciplinary issues related to his firearm, who was walking through the Senate floor with his finger on the trigger.
of that weapon, clearly just waiting to shoot somebody, and his name is Lieutenant Michael Byrd.
It is January the 6th.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist of President Trump.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
The End
Good day, Eric.
Sorry, uh, yes.
Favorite holiday.
Cut seven, uh, Gutfeld.
This week an MSNBC host, aren't they all, claimed he wasn't allowed into a New York City eatery because his four-year-old daughter wasn't vaccinated.
Eamon Moheedan says he tried to explain that kids under five can't even get vaxxed.
So, now you're seeing what happens when the left starts experiencing a taste of their own COVID absolutism.
And it proves the Gutfeld Rule.
Nothing bad ever, ever happens until it happens to the media or their kids.
Now, they give a s**t. Okay, and, um... Nine?
Well, uh...
In the previous strikes, I already made that decision because I joined the Chicago Public Schools as a teacher, first and foremost as a teacher.
And my role, I believe my role, should be inside the classroom with my students.
Should not be in the picket line.
I did not join CPS to be a union member.
First and foremost, to be a teacher.
And secondly, I believe that there are ways to fight City Hall.
You don't dangle the plight of the kids in the middle of the fight just to seek your demands.
Um... There's a read also.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sixty-second read.
And then...
All right.
Is this a 60-second...
Yep, 60 seconds, just record.
Thank you.
Are you shitting me?
Does the 4 o'clock hour have to be liberal on Fox?
This was the Shepard Smith hour.
I had this conversation with someone today.
They were talking about media and I said, well, it's not like you find any liberal media that goes right-wing ever.
And who watches TV at 4 o'clock?
I don't know.
Fox must think the Fairness Doctrine is an act.
Okay, cut eight.
Unbelievably, he has become, for Republicans, as much of a sort of figure of hatred, a hate object, as President Obama was.
You know, the black president.
Like, I mean, he was his vice president.
Maybe that's part of it.
I don't know what it is, but... Hello, America First.
They just can't cope.
Oh, okay.
Hang on one second.
I'm going to turn the mics off.
Thank you.
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Perfect guest for today, Matt Gaetz.
Welcome back to America First.
Well, thanks so much for having me, Dr. Gorka, and it has been a busy day on Capitol Hill for Myself and Marjorie Taylor Greene, we were, I think, some of the only Republicans here in town providing a response to Democrats and even some Republicans who've tried to label a movement of tens of millions of Americans as coup plotters, insurrectionists, and terrorists.
And we feel like it's really important to point out today, no one has been charged with terrorism.
No one has been charged with insurrection.
And there are a number of critical questions that we have asked the Attorney General, the FBI Director, regarding the involvement of the federal government in potentially trapping people who didn't intend to commit any crime or disrupt any proceeding in the events of really a bad day.
You know, I mean, no one's here to celebrate what happened.
On January 6th, a year ago, we're also not here to obsess about it.
But we do need to find out the truth.
Because if we don't, then we will continue to have a national security apparatus that thinks it's okay to target our own people.
I mean, they targeted Trump during the Russia hoax and during the whole Ukraine thing that was a cover up for the Biden crime family.
And now you have, I think, an effort on the part of the January 6th committee and the Congress and even some at the highest levels of our government to cover up the involvement of federal assets, agents, informants, employees who may have increased the criminal acuity of that day.
So that's our challenge for history, Seb, to set the record straight.
And it's what Marjorie Taylor Greene and I have been working on.
Well, he's using the big fancy words of criminal acuity, but he's right, because this is what the putative president said today about what occurred on January 6th.
This is Joe Biden cut 5.
This wasn't a group of tourists.
This was an armed insurrection.
They weren't looking to uphold the will of the people.
They were looking to deny the will of the people.
They were looking to uphold... They weren't looking to uphold a free and fair election.
They were looking to overturn one.
Strange.
Armed insurrection, as Congressman Gates points out.
Nobody has been charged out of the 700 arrests with anything to do with a firearm or with insurrection.
But Matt, it's not just the crazies on the left or the senile people in the White House.
It's people who have the letter R behind their name.
And I'm not talking about Kinzinger, who's about to appear on Fox or Neil Cavuto's show, of course, in a few minutes.
I'm not talking about Liz Cheney, the disgrace that she is.
Help me out here.
I always had a queasy feeling about him.
But how does the senator from Texas yesterday, Ted Cruz, call the people who went to Capitol Hill yesterday, terrorists?
That was the coldest take, certainly for the good Senator, someone who I agree with on a lot of issues.
My advice would be to stop trying to bend at the knee for the establishment.
I mean, the establishment in the Republican Party will never love you, Senator Cruz, and to sort of prostrate yourself like this Uh, was bizarre to observe, and I know disappointing to many, but I'm sure Senator Cruz will be back fighting on our side in the coming weeks and months, and we'll certainly need him.
But I thought that was very bizarre and just factually wrong, and for someone like Senator Cruz, who is so precise with the law to use such a charged term like terrorism for that day, I think misses the point.
We certainly could use the help of more Republicans to get to the bottom of the federal government's involvement, and I would encourage your listeners to go to Revolver News.
And to look at the videos of the very people who were encouraging the highest acuity criminal activity.
Those who were cutting fences down so others might be unsuspectingly where they shouldn't be.
Those who were encouraging people to fill up the Capitol.
Folks like Ray Epps who were saying that people had to go inside the Capitol.
Why is it that in what Attorney General Garland describes as the most expansive investigation that has ever occurred in the history of the Justice Department, these folks seem to be evading any review of their conduct?
And if the reason is that they were working with the federal government, then I think a lot of folks have been entrapped.
And it's very easy for the attorney general or the FBI director to clear this up, to speak to it directly.
We asked them these questions under oath in the House Judiciary Committee, and they refused to answer them.
And I think that if Republicans take control, and I expect we will after the midterm elections, we should not just dissolve the January 6th committee.
We should take it over, and we should populate it with members who want to get to the truth.
I mean, think about it, Dr. Gorka.
The January 6th Committee is more concerned with your text messages than with Ray Epps.
Ray Epps, who was actually out there encouraging people to break the law.
You never encouraged anyone to break the law, and yet they seem more interested in you.
And I think that gives away the game that this is about politics, and it's about a cover-up.
Yeah, thank you for mentioning the subpoena against my phone records.
Well, I've taken counsel and I've launched a move to quash it in a DC District Court.
We'll see what happens, but that's what you do with bullies.
You stand up to them.
He is the author of Firebrand.
He is the host of the podcast Firebrand.
Follow him at Rep Matt Gates on Twitter.
You're very gracious about your fellow Republican senator, but I know one thing about you, Matt.
You would never Ever use that terminology to describe the events of January 6th.
No.
But it is fascinating.
Not only that, what Revolver is reporting, but there are at least, what, four or five individuals who were on the FBI's most wanted list for January 6th, who Congressman Gates just magically disappeared from the list.
How about that?
And it's hard to imagine there would be an oversight in what the Attorney General said is the biggest, most expansive, most comprehensive investigation in history.
And so why would it be that someone who's telling people to go in the Capitol would find themselves on the FBI's 20 Most Wanted list in the days following this riot?
And then all of a sudden, the day after Revolver News puts out a stunning expose on Stuart Rhodes, who was the head of the Oath Keepers, then all of a sudden you see Ray Epps just fall off this list.
Now again, there might be a perfectly rational explanation for this.
We asked the Attorney General for that explanation.
Congressman Thomas Massey pressed him on it in the Judiciary Committee, and He just wouldn't say a thing, wouldn't talk about it at all.
And that really raises questions into how political some of the administrative agencies of government have become.
And, you know, look, we've got a movement of tens of millions of Americans who I think deeply threaten Yeah.
Oh, and I'm just watching the Fox feed.
Now they're having Liz Cheney on special.
That's perfect.
Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the same day at Fox.
Well, let's respond in kind.
in third world countries, not in our beautiful nation.
Oh, and I'm just watching the Fox feed.
Now they're having Liz Cheney on special.
That's perfect.
Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney on the same day at Fox.
Well, let's respond in kind.
I've got him to commit in the break before he came on.
He's going to break the internet with me and MTG.
We're going to have both Congressman Gates and Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show with regularity every week for an hour.
We're setting it up and it will melt the internet.
In the meantime, answer this question for me if you would, Congressman.
Say they get shellacked.
Say we can stop the vote of fraud.
If the GOP takes over the House and the Senate, are we actually going to see a tit-for-tat?
Will we actually finally see the GOP grow a pair and have investigative committees that actually get to the bottom of all of this?
Well, I have a vision for Republican control of the Congress that is very different, I would say the opposite, of what Paul Ryan did.
See, Paul Ryan's view is we should just pass a bunch of bills with a Democrat president, and then force a veto of those bills, and then claim some sort of empty moral victory.
I believe, instead, we should convert every committee in the United States Congress to an oversight committee.
Every Biden agency gets a colonoscopy, every review that it could be conducted is, and Hunter Biden finally gets a damn subpoena, and let's not just take Lindsey Graham's word for it this time.
But whether or not we can do it depends on the candidates we get in the 2020 election.
In primaries, this is being fought all over America, and we need those tough, strident, American-first candidates to prevail, not the folks that just act as the valets for the lobbyists and the special interests in Washington.
So I think that it remains to be seen, but the people will decide through the Republican primary elections what kind of fighters we get.
Well, I think we need more like Matt Gaetz and MTG.
I mean, at the end of the day, the job of Congress is oversight, so every committee should do exactly what you are saying.
It's up to us, guys.
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Mic's are back on?
I don't think so.
Okay.
You would've heard that.
Who is that?
Henricks.
Huh.
Alright.
Um, title.
And she used to be from somewhere else.
Where was she?
She was... Let me think.
For Matt Gaetz, I'll subpoena Hunter Biden.
Nice.
And what?
Oh, the prerecord as well.
Can you find me that revolver story on Stuart, what did he say?
Ray Epps and Stuart something.
Stu Peters?
No.
Rhodes, Stuart Rhodes.
Oh, it's a revolver story?
It came out like Christmas break when you were off.
I remember Jen talking about it.
Okay, let's see.
Special Report is what?
Yeah, it's up.
You can talk.
Dr. G, how's it going?
Good, good, good, good.
So, Special Report is right there, right?
Yeah.
New contributor.
What?
They have a new contributor.
A new contributor?
Yeah.
Are you?
No.
Who, uh, Brett Bear.
How you doing, Matt?
Doing great, Dr. G. How are you?
Good, good.
Having a great old day.
How does he spell his name, Brett Bear?
B-R-E-T-1-T.
And then it's like B-A... Got it, got it, got it.
Yeah, I-E-R.
What a loser he is, right?
Both of them.
I mean, seriously?
He should go to CNN.
Like Chris Wallace.
CNN plus.
I picked up like 12 subscribers.
Why not?
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The only place where pluses lead to minuses.
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Okay, we've got Israel here.
This is a long article, oh my goodness.
Lots of pictures.
What have we got here, John?
Israel.
Standing with it on the tour.
This Cheney is N-E-Y, right?
E-N-E-Y.
Yeah.
By the way, the Democrats seem to have warmed up pretty well to old Dick Cheney, huh?
Thank you.
This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
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Okay, guys, give me a second.
I've just got to get this tweet out.
It's an important one.
You'll enjoy it.
Let me read it to you before I send it, because, you know, you're my family and friends.
So who are Bret Baier and Team Cavuto inviting on Fox today for January 6th?
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney just switched to Newsmax already.
Stop wasting your time and money.
How pathetic!
I'm sure our next guest will have something to say about that.
He is, and I've memorized this, the Washington Bureau Chief.
For the most influential conservative website out there, it is brightbar.com and he is Matt Boyle.
Happy New Year, Matt.
Happy New Year, Dr. Gorka.
How are you, sir?
I am very well.
I'm very well.
We have to discuss the Cheneys.
We have to discuss Ted Cruz.
But your initial reactions to the circus so far on Capitol Hill today?
I mean, it's actual, literal theater.
Did you see Nancy Pelosi brought in Manuel Linaranda or whatever in the cast of Hamilton to do a performance?
No, are you kidding me?
I'm not kidding you, dead serious.
Like, they played it on video, but it was like, literally they did a January 6th musical song.
Like, it's actual theater.
- You think they're gonna do that for Pearl Harbor as well and 9/11?
You think they'll have like a musical version as well of that because that's what they talked about today. - No, because here's the thing is that Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were actual major tragedies in the American history that like the vast majority of the American public was aware of at the time.
They affected us in a significant way.
And they, you know, lasted, the impact of those lasted for generations to come.
I mean, we're 20 years after 9-11 and we're still, it's still, mind, everybody knows where they were when that happened.
Same thing with, you know, people that were around during Pearl Harbor.
This is not even anything close to either of those.
Now, that's not to excuse the people that did commit crimes.
You know, those people are paying consequences.
There have been more than 700 of them charged.
But the point is that, was this a terrorist attack?
No.
Was it a 9-11 or a Pearl Harbor?
No, it was not.
It was a mostly peaceful protest in Washington D.C.
with, I think, north of a quarter of a million people that were here or there.
I'm not in D.C.
anymore, but that were there in D.C.
And 700 of them got a little bit out of hand when they went into the Capitol.
I mean, it's really that simple.
And the Democrats want to turn it into some big memorial.
So let me ask the question I've been asking all our guests.
We've had Victor Davis Hanson today, we've had Matt Gaetz.
Does this whole Farago, this circus today, and what Nancy has done with her committee... I have a feeling, and maybe I'm too close to it, given that she subpoenaed my phone records as well.
Is this going to backfire for them, given the midterms, or is this simply all they've got, Matt?
Yeah, I think it is.
And so look, I'm going to let out a little bit of a secret for you here.
So next week, back in December, part of the reason why I was up in D.C., if you remember, I came in the studio with you then, I was recording a big hour-long video interview with Kevin McCarthy, the would-be Speaker of the House, assuming that The Republicans retake the majority, and that's going to come out next week.
In the interview, we talked a lot about the oversight stuff that you were just talking to Congressman Gates about.
Let's put it this way.
I think the Republicans are pretty unified on this one, right?
They are ready to roll.
They are going to go after these guys in every respect, and the standards that the Democrats have created By stripping members like Marjorie Taylor Greene, like Congressman Paul Gosar, etc., of their committee assignments, are going to come back and boomerang around on the Democrats.
I'll leave it at that for now, but the interview will come out next week.
I don't buy it, Matt.
I don't see a Kevin McCarthy suddenly grows a spine in the next nine months.
I got it straight from the horse's mouth.
Yeah, but that's words, dude.
That's words.
Well, look, I mean, he's going to have to back it up when he gets there.
He's going to have to back it up when he gets there.
But if he's saying all the right things now, then when they get there, you know, he's going to have to do it.
Or guess what?
He's not going to get to keep the job, right?
Like, it's that simple.
He knows all of these different guys.
Look, at the end of the day, these guys are going to actually have to deliver.
Will the House Republican leaders do it?
I hope so.
I mean, but they're saying that they're going to now.
Yeah, hope is not a strategy, and given what they've done in the last year, I don't buy it.
Look, I would just say, hope isn't the strategy here.
We're literally laying the groundwork for when the Republicans get the majority back, and there's every reason to believe that they will, and then as such, it looks like Kevin McCarthy's going to be the Speaker, then he's going to be locked into these various promises.
And if he does deliver on these things, then great.
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standwithisraeltour.com that's standwithisraeltour.com uh you mentioned uh the new favorite for the democrats is a former former vice president is that right matt yeah well dick cheney is apparently running around in the house of representatives today uh uh hanging out with all the democrats and his daughter uh liz cheney uh Look, Dick Cheney was one of the least popular vice presidents in American history.
So you want to know what?
If he wants to go join the Democrat Party, then They can have him.
They can have the Chamber of Commerce.
They can have all the special interest groups and whatnot that lined up behind the Democrats.
As far as I'm concerned, good riddance.
Get out of our party.
We don't want you.
Cheney, the Cheneys can go join the Democrats.
Paul Ryan can go join the Democrats, the whole rest of them.
We'll take the American workers and the American people.
They can have all the special interests and all these, you know, aligned You know, so on and so forth.
But what's in it for... I don't understand on either side of that equation.
I know her daughter is the fake Republican of the January 6th committee along with Kinzinger.
Enjoy your fox hit today, by the way, Lynn.
What's in it for him and what's in it for the Democrats to have this person who they considered a warmonger for eight years running around Capitol Hill today?
Well, I mean, what's in it for him, he's trying to protect his daughter and trying to put his imprint on what he thinks the future of the Republican Party should look like.
Obviously, the Bushes and the Cheneys lost that debate.
Trump's vision for the Republican Party is by far, far and away, the dominant vision inside the GOP.
As for the Democrats, what they're trying to do is They're desperate for the imprimatur of bipartisanship.
So they will do anything that they can possibly do to make it look like their partisan hack jobs are not partisan, right?
So that's why, I mean, look, here's the thing.
Everybody says that McCarthy and the Republicans pulled out of the committee.
Uh, from, uh, when it was created.
That's not necessarily accurate.
No.
McCarthy did appoint a group of Republicans to the January 6th committee.
They included Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, among several others.
Uh, Nancy Pelosi stripped Jim Jordan and Jim Banks after McCarthy put them on the committee, off the committee, and then the rest of the Republicans walked away from the committee, and then Pelosi then appointed, uh, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger to the committee.
So the committee was originally going to be bipartisan?
No, but then Nancy ignored the other party and therefore it is an illegal and it is a constitutionally illegitimate committee and that's what my lawyers filed in district court.
He just used the word imprimatur on national radio.
That's because he's Matt Boyle.
Back in a moment with Matt.
Back in a moment.
The End If you say January the 6th is the same as 9-11 or Pearl Harbor, you're an asshole.
I like that.
It's, you know, to the point.
Yes?
I just got the clip that Matt was talking about.
I thought it was a joke.
Me too.
I can't believe Pelosi really did this.
Me too.
No, that's insane.
Can I see it on your laptop?
Okay, let's come in with that.
I was telling someone to watch Fox right now if you wanted to see Fox not being right wing.
And they said, oh, what's on?
January 6th, the musical?
And I said, oh, that's funny.
And then I sort of responded to it later.
I said, I thought you weren't serious.
I thought that was a joke.
He says, I wasn't serious.
That was a joke.
I said, no, that actually happened.
I've got to see this, guys.
I've got to see this.
That's insanity.
I still don't believe it until it comes up.
That's why I think, you know, all of this, they have a plan, it's a strategy, and she's the art strategist, it's just bullshit.
They have no plan.
Just bollocks.
To criticize the right, that's all they ought to do.
Right, right.
Their plan to take over the culture has worked, I mean, again, Hamilton being as No, but Nancy Pelosi didn't take over the culture.
That was a bunch of people in the Frankfurt School, you know, 50 years ago.
It's nothing to do with these cretins on Capitol Hill.
Well, Hamilton, they'd love to be a part of the 1-6 ceremony.
How much money do you think they gave to some pact to be able to perform?
Oh, yeah.
They tried to make this happen.
Manuel and his father and the Hamilton... Oh, is that the video of it?
Yeah.
Said that they were all very honored to be asked to participate today.
Call your attention to a new year brings hope for the future, new energy to face the tasks ahead of us, and a renewed promise to strengthen the foundations of our democracy.
When you smile, I fall apart.
And I thought I was so smart.
My father wasn't around.
My father wasn't around.
I swear I'll be around for you.
John, say that again.
That's exactly like the San Francisco gay men's choir thing.
Alright, Casio has to post that now, okay?
If you think, here's a tweet, if you think the Democrats know what they're doing, here is their January 6th musical, okay?
You want the whole clip?
Yes!
Or just that one?
No, that's fine, that's fine.
If you think the Democrats know what they're doing... Go ahead.
We're on two.
We'll be off in like six minutes.
If you really think the Democrats know what they're doing, watch this.
Nancy's January 6th musical.
I don't remember Miranda's voice being that effeminate, oh my goodness.
Oh yeah, what's his first name?
Lin Manuel.
Lin.
Lin, what?
Lin Manuel Miranda.
Lin Manuel.
Lin dash Manuel.
Okay, alright, what am I coming in here with?
Uh, we're coming in here with my pillow.
My pillow, and then I'm gonna tee up that video and then I'm gonna go to Matt.
Okay.
Alright, sounds good.
Thank you Matt for that.
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I do not like getting caught out by my guests when they say, did you know what happened?
And I say, no, I didn't.
And Matt Boyle just did it to me, but we are so grateful to him.
I think I think we are, because when he said, did you see January 6, the musical, I didn't know what to say.
But it's true, Mr. G has dug it up in the break.
This is how Nancy Pelosi commemorated the insurrection with, who's that guy?
Lin-Manuel's squeaky voice Miranda.
Play cut.
Lin-Manuel and his father and the Hamilton singers, who we'll hear from, said that they were all very honored To be asked to participate today.
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January 6, the musical.
Uh, Matt Boyle, that's it.
I'm done.
If anybody ever says to me again the Democrats have a clue what they're doing, I'm gonna quote you and play that cut.
These people are nuts.
I mean, it's proof positive right there, isn't it?
That this is all literally theater?
Yes!
Like, this is all political thea- I mean, like, we joke that about things being political theater all the time.
But forget that!
It's not just theater!
It's disconnected from America!
It's total nonsense, right?
Like, and it's frankly, you want to know why they're doing it?
is because just look at the economy.
It's totally destroyed.
COVID's out of control right now, right?
Joe Biden's lost control of the pandemic.
I mean, he's just given up.
Like, I mean, you know, by the way, I mean, have you seen literally up to our friends up to the north in Montreal?
I don't know if you've seen these videos of police roaming through the streets doing lockdowns there.
Our friends down under in Australia under lockdown.
I mean, Joe Biden, he says he cares about fighting authoritarianism and tyrants.
Well, stand up to Trudeau with the losers down in Australia, Joe.
Like, I mean, the...
So he's totally lost control of the pandemic.
You've got the inflation out of control.
Gas prices are on the rise.
Crime is out of control in every major American city.
The police are being held back by Democrats everywhere.
It's still a monster out-of-control border crisis.
This president has lost control He's not the real president.
That's the point here.
Do they have to do everything they can to distract from it?
But Matt, it's okay, because Lin-Manuel Miranda can do a song about it.
Can do a song about it.
There you go.
Okay, last question.
60 seconds left.
Gotta ask you, because I'm so done with him.
So done.
Am I gonna piss off a lot of people now?
I'm just gonna say it.
What the hell is the senator from Texas, Ted Cruz, doing calling MAGA supporters terrorists?
Not criminals or rioters or hooligans, but terrorists.
Who's he trying to impress yesterday?
I don't even know what's gone wrong there.
So I've had my moments with him over the years.
There are moments where he's done a great job.
There are moments when he doesn't.
But that's Adam Kinzinger level, man.
It's- it's moronic.
It's- it's- it- look, was it- could you say that it was a riot?
Yeah, like, I mean, I kind of agree with Tucker's view on this, right?
Like- Hooligans, whatever.
Yeah, like, uh, but was it a terrorist attack?
No, like, that's what Kamala Harris thinks.
And who in Texas, Matt, who in Texas agrees with him?
I- it just defies logic why he- Okay, we've done it.
We've stumped him.
First time ever in three years of doing radio.
I have stumped the man with better connections than anybody in the swamp.
It's an accolade.
I mean, it's one thing we can celebrate on January 6th.
He doesn't have the answer.
Neither do I. I don't think anybody does.
But seriously, Ted Cruz, you're done.
You're finished.
We've had it with you.
You will not be seen as a true Republican unless You've apologized.
God bless you, Matt Boyle.
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When one of my most liberal friends makes a joke about how bad it is, and it turns out it's actually true.
Right.
So what is this guy's name?
Tony Martinez.
He's the clip from... Oh, and we've got the clip, right?
Yes, from Capital Punishment.
I can't get through these clips.
I'm going to use them all tomorrow.
He said it's Felipe Antonio Martinez is his full name.
Yep.
Felipe.
Yeah.
I want the beard.
Antonio Martinez.
What should we put on the Chi-Ra on that frame, like January 6th?
January 6th, victim.
Victim, okay.
Sorry, can we get it on?
Oh yeah, we're done with the Chi-Ra.
Okay, appreciate it, thank you.
Yep, no problem.
Not prisoner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm changing it.
Victim.
There we go.
There we go.
That video would be like 9-11 getting Ted Nugent to perform on the floor.
That could be cool.
Do we have that B-roll?
No?
We have it as a video clip.
I just said the video.
Oh, show me?
My wife said she heard them before I heard them.
I'm a very heavy sleeper.
How long is it?
42 seconds.
Alright, good.
I have to come in with something here.
Merge.
I'll do merge and I'll tee that up.
Merchant, you'll tee up that clip.
Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gorka.
How are you?
They brought a musical app?
That's just how you know.
Good.
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Hang on.
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I feel bad.
I don't mean unwell, I mean I feel awful.
Because I got Mr. G to do lots of cuts of a real insurrection that happened in this city the day President Trump was sworn in and then during BLM and Antifa and I haven't used any of it!
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John, you watched it last night, half of it.
How did it make you feel?
It was incredible.
I mean, the entire time you're just filled with emotion and it builds and builds.
What kind of emotion?
Just disdain for what happened and how people and the media have covered it since then and the cover-up of everything that took place.
Anger.
Anger and disdain.
You've got to see Capital Punishment, themovie.com.
And I'm just going to show you a very little clip to introduce our next guest.
This tells you why January 6 is now a tool of political persecution.
My wife said she heard them before I heard them.
I'm a very heavy sleeper.
So you got woken up in the midst of all this, too.
I was confused.
And my hearing was starting to come back.
And it sounded like war.
Yeah.
Like, it was crazy.
There was flashes and just the loudest bangs on the door.
It was like almost shaking the house.
My dad was at the door, and he was about to open it.
And I went to grab my dog.
Before I could grab my dog, they handcuffed me.
They handcuffed you?
Yes.
That's a 13-year-old girl, handcuffed by the feds.
Her father, you heard, is Felipe Antonio Martinez, and he's with us now.
Tony, welcome to America First.
Just remind our listeners across the nation, the millions who are tuning in right now, what did you do?
What was your crime on January the 6th in DC?
I'm still trying to figure that out.
What are they?
Did you go into Nancy Pelosi's office?
Did you steal her laptop?
What have you been charged with, Tony?
Why did the feds come to your house with AR-15s, M4s, wearing body armor and riding on an APC?
I have the slightest clue what justification and why they did that.
I have no idea.
I know what they say why they did it, but I'm still trying to figure out why they think that's true.
So what do they say about you?
Why are you in trouble with the law?
They say that, as is public record, that I conspired to interfere with an election process.
I don't know how smart they think I am, but I'm definitely not that smart.
What do you do for a living, Tony?
I'm a pipefitter.
I've been a union pipefitter for almost 20 years now.
So you're a union pipefitter for almost two decades, and you're accused with conspiring to undermine an election.
Yes.
And then the reason, what reason did they give for handcuffing your 13-year-old daughter?
They thought she was, according to what I've heard, they thought she was a danger.
She was just trying to get a hold of our dog, because I didn't know what he was going to do once they came inside.
And I didn't want anything bad to happen to him.
And I heard stories of them, you know, destroying pets.
So I was trying to eliminate any danger to him.
So what condition are you in now?
You're still waiting for another hearing.
Do you have a decent lawyer?
Tell our listeners what your life is like right now, Tony.
You know, my mother has prayed for me my whole life, and we as a family have surrendered to God and to Christ and to His Word, which is how we eventually became patriots.
It's because our country is based on God's Word.
So, you know, everything that I have right now, I probably have the best lawyer I could have.
My family at this point are separated because I have to be on the road to In case something tragic does happen, in case I do get incarcerated, I need to try to stockpile so my family can be taken care of, depending on how long, if how long, I'm inside.
So, right now, everything's peaceful, though.
We just celebrated the holidays, Christmas, New Year's.
The kids, you know, they're so amazing.
You know, they had their choir.
They, they, they practice for months and months and just presented its 1st class presentation, everything from 5 years old to my daughter's now 14.
And it was just a beautiful thing.
I'm now back in the area where I'm working, and I'm just going to try to make it back home to be with my family full time.
All right, guys.
Guys, I love all of you that listen to this show.
You are great Americans.
Right now, I have a personal request to you.
I want you to pray for Tony Martinez.
For his family, for his daughter, for his mother.
I want you to pray for them every day.
I want you to pray for Derek Kinison, who was on the show earlier, another victim of the January 6th persecutions.
Tony, is there any way that people can financially support you or help you?
Yes, some friends of ours started a not a GoFundMe, but a GiveSendGo.
Just look underneath my name, Felipe Antonio Martinez.
I mean, even if you Google that name, I pop right up.
All of a sudden, I'm an infamous person, which is really funny.
You're an infamous person for having surrendered your life to Jesus and being a patriot and being a pipe fitter for almost 20 years.
GiveSendGo is the website.
Look for the GiveSendGo URL with Felipe Antonio Martinez's name.
I will be donating money to him.
And to Derek Kinison as soon as I'm off the air.
God bless you, Tony.
Keep us updated.
You will be in our prayers.
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What did I give you as the title for the Kinnison one?
You, J6, I've never even entered Congress.
Okay, forget it.
Combine it with, do Martinez and Kinnison in that order as one video.
Martinez and then Kinnison, okay.
We are the real victims.
Of January 6th.
We are the real victims of January 6th.
Okay.
Okay.
And then do you want to post a foil to Rumble or no?
Uh, no.
Okay.
We are the real victims of January 6th.
Okay.
Get that back up.
That was something else.
He gets on the radio and starts talking about the choir.
The kids' choir.
Not about pushing, you know, the time where you need financial aid and all that.
He's just talking about... Conspiracy.
A pipefitter who can spy to undermine the elections.
You know what, Jeff?
Can you send all of these cuts you collected to Casio to do a long montage?
And we should do this.
This is what a real insurrection looks like.
All the Madonna and stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That should be a good little video.
All right.
Okay.
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Okay, one story.
We're going to do a montage of all the videos I couldn't get to today of the real insurrection, the three billion dollars worth of damage, the thousands of Leo's law enforcement officers injured in the BLM Antifa riots.
But there's one story that doesn't get talked about enough on the day That I started working for the president at 12 o'clock, which was of course January the 20th, 2017, in DC.
20th, 2017, in DC, there was violence.
And there was lots of violence.
One of the things that occurred was quite serious.
There was a limo, very expensive.
Do you know how much limos cost?
Limos are bloody expensive.
All that custom coach work and the stretching and everything.
And I think he's Egyptian, but anyway, a Muslim limo driver who paid, I don't know, a hundred grand for his limo saw his Livelihood go up in flames and I mean literally because the people who hated Donald Trump set fire to it in DC on the day of the inauguration and this is the report from CBS cut 12.
A limousine set on fire as demonstrators wreaked havoc in Washington.
Police had to push back the protesters so firefighters could get to the flames.
A group of people carrying anarchy flags pushed over trash cans and destroyed storefront windows as they swarmed through the streets.
Strangely, strangely, there was no committee to investigate that attack.
There was no committee to Get to the bottom of what Antifa and BLM are doing to America.
There isn't even a committee to investigate the Wuhan China virus.
But there is for January 6.
That's why we have to take back this country.
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Just a local school board.
Just a local...
Library Council?
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The quote-unquote putative insurrection.
Far from it.
January the 6th.
What does it all mean?
What has happened in the last year?
We're going to talk to somebody who literally wrote the book.
Yes, there you go.
It's called January the 6th, Senior Contributor to an American Greatness Website.
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Julie Kelly, welcome to America First one-on-one.
Hey Seb, thank you so much for having me on.
Happy New Year and happy almost insurrection day.
Yes, indeed.
Happy, happy New Year to all of you patriots out there.
We have so much to discuss here the day before the events which will be, well, they're already being utilised, they're being distorted by the fake news and their collaborators in the leftist political circles of power.
Let's just Let's put things into context, if I may, for a moment.
I owe the great one Mark Levin for this next clip.
I was listening to his show on Monday, and he wanted to put things into perspective by talking about a potential real insurrection that occurred on Capitol Hill back in 1954, where a group of armed Puerto Rican nationalists shot Five members of Congress almost killing one of them.
Play cuts.
In Washington DC, ruthless fanatic violence erupted in the halls of Congress.
Three men and a woman, believed to be members of the Puerto Rican nationalist gang, that in November 1950 attempted the assassination of President Truman, opened fire from the visitors gallery of the House of Representatives.
Five congressmen were hit.
Ben F. Jensen of Iowa, Clifford Davis of Tennessee, Kenneth Roberts of Alabama, George H. Fallon of Maryland, and Albert Bentley of Michigan, who was seriously injured.
So those were people who gained access to Congress, fired handguns, almost killing a member of Congress, wounding five in total.
That really actually happened.
Let's talk about what happened 364 days ago here in the nation's capital.
So, Julie Kelly, let's start at the beginning.
We're going to talk about your book, January 6.
It's just out, how Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch a war on terror against the political right.
We want everybody to order it right now.
It just came out this week.
But if a Martian landed today and said, who knows about January 6?
Ah, yes, we've heard of this Julie Kelly person.
What would you say to Martians who know nothing about What actually happened, Julie?
Well, I think I would start off with that it increasingly looks like an inside job by the government, and especially the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which we know has been highly politicized and weaponized.
They act as the jackboots of the Democratic Party.
So it looks like another FBI setup, another FBI trap.
where they knew hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters were going to be in the Capitol on January 6th.
They wanted to provoke this sort of violence, which had never happened at any other Trump rally, including the two previous Stop the Steal rallies, as you know, Seb.
In November and December, the only violence at those rallies were perpetrated by BLM and Antifa activists who attacked Trump supporters as they were leaving the various speeches.
A lot of people have even been stabbed, unfortunately.
I mean, you know, members of the Proud Boys, I think five at one time, were stabbed by members of Antifa.
So that's the normalization of violence on the left.
All right, so potential provocateurs.
What else do we know a year later really happened on Capitol Hill?
Well, okay, so we do know that there were various FBI informants and now we know because of this Newsweek bombshell that was published on Monday that there were hundreds of elite FBI special forces.
They called them shadowy commandos that were stationed at Quantico starting on January 2nd and 3rd.
And then we're on Capitol grounds early that morning.
So, Seb, who were these FBI commandos?
I mean, I've seen all the video and photos.
I don't see anybody that says FBI is here.
If they had hundreds of these forces, what were they doing?
Why weren't they protecting the Capitol?
Why weren't they protecting lawmakers who felt that their lives were threatened?
And so this looks like another setup by Christopher Wray's FBI, just like the Whitmer kidnapping plot, which is falling apart for the government as well.
And so but what they've done is taken this four hour disturbance.
They blamed Donald Trump for inciting this insurrection.
They have now arrested more than 700 Americans, most of them charged with low level misdemeanors, but in the process have destroyed their lives.
Some of them are being sent to prison for class B misdemeanors.
Basically parading in the Capitol.
And so to my point in my book, which I give a detailed timeline of exactly what happened that day, but also how this Justice Department, the entire Biden regime, Joe Biden himself, is weaponizing that four-hour disturbance and targeting the political right millions of Americans and launching a domestic war on terror against Americans on the right.
Let's also talk about the preparations, because there's this conventional wisdom, Julie, that this is just something that caught Nancy Pelosi, the Sergeant-at-Arms, the Capitol Police unawares.
There was an expectation, you know, when the incumbent president says, come to D.C., I'm going to have a rally, I'm going to give a speech at the Olympics, then you prepare for that.
And we also have the information now that President Trump said to Congress, to Nancy, would you like assistance?
Would you like the National Guard to be mobilized?
What do we know about...
The conventional wisdom is caught unawares, caught by surprise, and it was just incompetence.
Given that this event was planned, meaning the rally, there is adequate evidence that preparations simply were not taken, and in some cases, deliberately not taken, correct?
That's right.
I believe that it was intentional that Nancy Pelosi and DC Mayor Muriel Bowser rejected calls for additional National Guardsmen, up to 10,000, I believe the President recommended.
Now, why is that, Seb?
Why did they not want maybe 10,000 National Guardsmen guarding the perimeter of the Capitol grounds, which they had shut off to the public, even though most people who arrived after the President's speech had no idea that the grounds to the Capitol building even had been shut off to the public?
Why did they not?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because the place was crawling with not just feds, but DC and DC Metro and Capitol Police who had their marching orders, which was to attack the crowd, to provoke the crowd, to incite these confrontations that we see repeatedly on a loop at CNN or MSNBC that show Trump supporters confronting police officers.
Now, why did that happen?
You have really a big contingency of Americans Who backed the blue, supported police, especially throughout the riots of 2020.
And now all of a sudden you just saw all these confrontations.
Well, what was happening?
DC Metro, Capitol Police attacked this crowd, peacefully assembled outside.
They started about 115.
They started throwing flashbangs.
They started throwing pepper balls.
You could see Capitol Police with these rifles loading in pepper balls that emit pepper spray when they hit the ground.
DC Metro Police had something called Sting Balls, another sort of grenade that releases rubber bullets into the crowd when it hits the ground.
This is what they started doing right as Trump's speech was wrapping up.
And these people are standing around.
There's open source video of them.
Yeah, I looked at the video, Julie, and tell me if I'm getting this wrong, because I haven't watched every second of every video.
But it looks as if there are parts of Congress where people are walking in freely, where the police officers stand aside and just let them through.
And then there's a mass of people Peacefully congregated on the other side and then suddenly these thunder flashes and flashbangs are deployed without any police officer being attacked.
Am I misinterpreting what I saw?
No, that's exactly what happened.
And there was no warning given.
You do not see police officers, especially on the west side of the terrace where the inauguration staging and the scaffolding was.
You never hear police announced to the crowd, hey, by the way, this Capitol grounds is closed and the building is closed.
These people who had walked, now the first breach really happened right before 1 o'clock.
This is when you see Ray Epps, and I know we'll talk about him, whispering in the ear of Ryan Samsel, who is technically the first person We're getting into the minutiae.
I want to track this moment by moment.
You're introducing specific names.
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Okay, Julie, let's talk about, you started to talk about timings, chronologies.
You say in your book, January 6th, you've got the whole timeline.
You're talking about individuals.
So give us a little walk through the beginnings of what happened.
And when you mention a name, tell us who that person is.
Yes.
So let's start at the initial breach of the outside perimeter.
And that happened, Seb, about 1255.
Now, as you know, the president was still speaking at the Ellipse, nearly two miles away.
So what you have are these groups, including the Proud Boys, which is an alleged militia group.
We have Ryan Samsel, who is a January 6th defendant.
He's been in jail since last January.
And you see a man named Ray Epps, who I know that your very astute viewers and listeners are familiar with.
This is the man who on January 5th and January 6th was seen repeatedly encouraging protesters and just average citizens to go into the Capitol building on January 6th.
So like shouting, let's do it, let's do it, the time is now, right?
A classic provocateur.
He goes to a group of Trump supporters on the night of January 5th and starts telling them, tomorrow we need to go into the Capitol building.
And in one of these clips, the people suspect that this guy is not legit, and they start yelling, fed, at him.
The next day, he's on the streets directing people who are leaving Trump's speech at the Ellipse, directing them towards Capitol Hill, saying, this is the Capitol.
This is where you need to go.
We need to go inside the building.
Then he appears at the location of the first breach, which is on the west side of the building.
This was a perimeter, a very late line of bike racks and maybe five Capitol Police officers.
They're not in riot gear like the rest of the thugs were later in the afternoon.
And Ray Epps whispers in Ryan Samsel, this defendant's ear, and Ryan Samsel technically is the first person to breach The outer perimeter of what had been shut down to the public.
They knock over a couple of officers, they run up the stairs and they advance towards the west side of the building.
Now, Trump's speech is still going on.
So the hundreds of thousands of people who were there are gradually making their way to the Capitol still were not there.
And so then you had all these people starting to congregate on both the west side and the east side of the building, just gradually filing in.
And what happens on the west side?
About 115 or 120 is DC Metro and Capitol Police, as you said, starts throwing crowd control devices, flash grenades, and other things into the crowd.
They are dousing people with tear gas.
In some instances, they are punching protesters directly in the face, using their batons against them.
These are people who aren't trying to get into the building.
For the most part, they are honoring the lines that the police had come up That had erected earlier.
And so this really stunned a lot of people.
Now, I've talked to these people who are in the crowd.
I've seen their videos that they have furnished to me.
And they were just stunned.
And this is when you see the crowd start to turn on police.
And you see some physical confrontations.
And you see a lot of shouting at the police.
You know, we backed you.
We've always had your back.
Why are you attacking us?
And these police were head-to-toe riot gear.
They had helmets on.
And peculiarly, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I hate those who spin stuff without any backing, but you can see this on the videos.
Those police officers, in many cases, have zero markings on their riot gear.
Not even police.
There's no unit patch.
There's no rank patch.
There's no name patch.
Just a guy in black riot gear and a helmet.
Right.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
And in a couple of videos, which looked very suspicious, they had kind of like a jacket flap, like almost you would just like slide over on your jacket.
And it said Capitol Police, but it wasn't a legitimate jacket.
It was something that they had just thrown on at the end.
But there were no identifying badge numbers.
You couldn't see their faces.
You couldn't see their eyes.
They had gloves on.
They had jackboots on.
They had riot shields.
I mean, they looked like stormtroopers because it's exactly how they acted on January 6th.
That is why Nancy Pelosi and Muriel Bowser did not want a 10,000 National Guardsmen there because they would turn to these officers and say, what are you doing?
Why are you attacking this crowd?
Why are you punching this man?
Why are you throwing this woman down on the ground?
I mean, your viewers and listeners have seen a lot of this video and that is precisely why they did not want additional security.
And of course, then this led to the first technical breach of the building, which happened at around 2.15 that day.
And that's when the joint session adjourned and then the building was evacuated.
Now a couple of weeks ago you reported, you are I mean really the person out there who's done the most work reporting on all of this, about a woman who got trapped by the police in a tunnel and was almost beaten to within an inch of her life.
Can you tell that story as well Julie?
I do.
I first want to mention, though, Ashley Babbitt.
Yeah, we'll get to Ashley Babbitt.
We're familiar with Ashley Babbitt.
I've got a long list of stuff we're going to mention Ashley Babbitt right here.
But I don't think many people know about this woman.
So would you tell that story first?
Her name is Victoria White.
She was trapped inside this Lower West Terrace tunnel where a lot of the violence took place.
It's also the location where Roseanne Boyland, a Trump supporter from Georgia, died.
Victoria White, I interviewed her three times last month, a really tragic story.
And you can see a DC supervisor with a white shirt on and another police officer.
This man takes his baton, and it's a stick, it's not a normal baton, it's a stick that's supposed to be used to break glass in emergencies.
He is beating her over the head.
She's trapped against the wall, crushed by people on the other side, police on the back side, and he's just railing on her with this baton.
And let's be clear, this is about 4 o'clock that day.
The building had long been evacuated.
No one was in that building.
Victoria White posed no threat to anyone.
The only people inside were Capitol Police, undercover FBI assets, and some more protesters.
She posed no threat.
The supervisor hits her over the head at least a dozen times with his baton, but that wasn't enough for the psycho.
He moves his baton, he takes his left hand, he wants to be left-handed, and punches her directly in the face at least five times.
You could see she is bloodied.
Another officer next to him, I believe is DC Metro, starts spraying, macing her in the face, and at one point grabs her hair, the back of her head, and starts shaking her head around.
This is what happens.
They have other examples of these cops brutalizing women in this tunnel, but that's the most egregious.
And luckily, she survived to tell her story.
But she also was arrested and faces about five or six criminal charges for that day, believe it or not.
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Thank you.
Julie, you mentioned Ashley Babbert.
She's on my list.
We have to discuss her.
Let's start with how that event was filmed and who filmed it because I think that is a very interesting part of the story of January the 6th.
So the man who filmed the execution of Ashley Babbitt is a man named John Sullivan.
He goes by Jaden X. He also is a well-known BLM activist out of Utah.
He also acted as an agitator that day.
You could see him several times, including in the Rotunda.
I believe he was with a CNN reporter or another CNN photographer.
And they are joyous that they got inside of the Capitol.
They're trying to make other people follow them.
And he just happens to be outside of the speaker's lobby where Ashley Babbitt was.
There were other police officers guarding the door.
There were police officers behind Ashley Babbitt.
And you could see Ashley is very agitated and she's yelling at police.
And someone had broken a window.
And as she attempted to crawl through this window to get into the speaker's lobby, you see a hand of a Capitol Police officer.
That's right.
Unlike, of course, none of the usual rules apply when it comes to January 6th.
She falls backwards and she is killed by Lieutenant Michael Byrd, Capitol Police officer.
Whose identity was basically a secret for six months, right?
That's right.
Unlike, of course, none of the usual rules apply when it comes to January 6th.
And so usually, Seb, as you know, when there's a fatal shooting, especially by a federal police officer, especially on government public grounds, this would be cause for the media nonstop to not only find out his name, but everything about him, all of his social media posts, anything that he's ever gotten in trouble all of his social media posts, anything that he's ever gotten But for months, the media, and they knew exactly who this officer was, for months they covered up his name until finally on his own terms, Michael Byrd sat down with Lester Holt,
Gave this heartfelt interview, calling himself basically a hero for shooting Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed veteran with seven or eight tours of duty overseas, posed no threat to anyone.
A man who called himself in the interview, called himself a hero who saved many, quote, saved many lives that day by shooting an unarmed woman.
Yes, exactly.
And he's allowed to get away with that.
And unfortunately, he is heralded as a hero, not just by Democrats, but by Republicans, too, who have defended what he did.
One of them is Senator Ken Kramer from North Dakota, who was pushed in an interview about what happened to Ashley Babbitt, and he basically thanked Officer Byrd for saving his life that day.
And so this is really disgusting.
The vile hit jobs on Ashley Babbitt from the beginning, including this week, I believe, Associated Press, I didn't even share it, talking about Maybe some other issues in her life.
I'm not even going to repeat any of it.
But the demonization and vilification, the idea that Ashley Babbitt deserved to be shot and killed that day by a federal police officer.
It's just astounding to see how the media and Democrats and millions of Americans have embraced her death.
The belief that she was a QAnon conspiracy theorist Trump supporter who deserved her fate that day.
And then of course the flip side of all of that propaganda was that Brian Signik, who by the way was a Trump supporter, we found his Twitter feed, Brian Signik was murdered on January the 6th by having his head caved in with a fire extinguisher.
All lies.
All lies.
So I believe that this was the cover-up story to detract away from attention from the Trump supporters who were killed on January 6th, Ashley Babbitt, Roseanne Boylan, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips, four Trump supporters who died, two, at least two, at the hands of police, I will say.
And so they desperately needed a story.
So on January 7th, Capitol Police come out and say that Brian Sicknick was killed in the line of duty by Trump supporters.
The very next day, January 8th, the New York Times Runs an article sourced by two anonymous law enforcement officials that claimed Brian Sicknick was bludgeoned to death by Trump supporters using a fire extinguisher.
Horrific account of what happened to a 42-year-old police officer.
So this goes on for weeks.
They have a formal procession through Washington, D.C.
Brian Sicknick's remains are laid in state in the rotunda, usually a very rare memorial honor.
For example, Harry Reid, that will happen With him, I believe next week.
So this is a very rare honor.
His remains laid in state.
Joe Biden and Jill Biden showed up to show their respects.
You could see him shaking his head as he's walking away.
Brian Sicknick was eulogized by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
Then his remains were transported to Arlington National Cemetery for hero's burial.
The whole time, the American public believing the New York Times story that he had been bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.
Well, what happens?
All these optics are over.
The impeachment trial goes on.
The impeachment House Democrat managers actually use the New York Times story in their articles of impeachment, their backup document.
And what happens?
February 12th, under a lot of scrutiny, the New York Times quietly retracts their story.
He says that, no, there's no proof that he was bludgeoned to death.
We're not really sure what happened.
But then they move to another story, which is that he was attacked with chemical spray and probably died of an allergic reaction to that.
Well, that didn't happen either.
And in April, the coroner finally admitted he died of natural causes, two clots that caused a stroke.
Unfortunately, Brian Sicknick passed away at the age of 42, but had nothing to do with what happened on January 6th.
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Will you tell us what has happened since January the 6th?
The numbers of arrests, how people were treated in prison, access to these individuals, the charges.
This is a putative insurrection.
What were these people actually charged with and how were they treated?
So, more than 700 Americans have now been arrested.
Most of them face misdemeanor.
Charges, trespassing, parading in the Capitol, which is my personal favorite.
We now have, though, at least 80 men being held under pretrial detention orders.
More than half of them are rotting in a D.C.
jail that has been set aside just for January 6th defendants.
So, yes, we have a political prison in this country, in this nation's capital.
They have not been convicted of any crime.
But they have been deemed a danger to society by Joe Biden's line prosecutors and by federal judges.
Judges, by the way, all appointees, Donald Trump's judges, Barack Obama's judges, Ronald Reagan's judges, all have deemed these people a danger to society.
They must be held behind bars awaiting trials that the government and the federal judges continue to delay into the middle or even late next year.
And so that is what's happening with the political prisoners.
No.
Several people already have pleaded guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding.
This is what I call the head fake insurrection charge because, Seb, as you know, not one person has been charged with insurrection or sedition or any of the overheated rhetoric that we've heard from Joe Biden, Merrick Garland himself, and of course everyone in the news media.
And most disturbing are these reports that these garbage public defenders are making their clients, quote-unquote, admit to having been force-fed propaganda materials, that they're reading the right politically correct books, making statements such as, yes, the election was fair last week.
These are the kinds of things we hear in fascist and communist regimes that people are being told what they are allowed to think, correct?
Can you confirm this?
Because some of our listeners won't believe this.
I'm so glad that you brought that up.
Yes, they have public defenders because these people can't afford more than six figures for a DC criminal defense attorney.
So a lot of them are relying on public defenders who, of course, are completely hostile.
to their clients' political views, and in some cases have gone through this reprogramming of their clients, making them read books and watch movies that portray America, of course, as a racist, systemically racist, anti-Semitic country.
This happened with one particular defendant, one public defender who actually has quite a few clients.
But in another case, a man who pleaded guilty to the obstruction charge wrote a heartfelt letter to the judge and actually said, I accept now that Joe Biden is the legitimately elected president of the United States.
This was a Trump supporter, a man who was in the Senate gallery, holding up a Trump flag and had to grovel in front of prosecutors and a federal judge, admit who his dear leader is, Joe Biden, and beg for mercy for his sentence, which he didn't get.
He was sentenced to 15 months in jail for obstruction of an official proceeding.
So that is just, that scratches the surface.
And I talk about some of this in my book, but the next book will be about the trials and everything else that's been happening since then and what these prosecutors and judges are tormenting these Americans with.
And you are right.
This is not the sort of thing that we expect to hear in America, certainly in American courtrooms, but this is like, Marxist scary Soviet era.
Yeah, it's the classic Maoist self-criticism.
You're at the show trial and you must make public statements disowning yourself.
That's exactly what we're seeing here in America.
Can you talk to us about the support these people are receiving?
I think there's one website where you can make donations and also talk to us about the The GOP being AWOL on this issue apart from some brave voices like MTG, Gates and Gohmert.
Can you talk about the funding and also the GOP?
So for months there was no funding.
There was no site to help these people and the adoptive aunt of one of the detainees started something called the Patriot Freedom Project and it has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Some big donors like Dinesh D'Souza And his wife donated $100,000 to really get the fund going.
And she's gotten donations of all sizes, substantial donations and people who could give anything.
And this is to help defray not only defense attorneys costs as we are getting more attorneys who are willing to step up and help these and represent these people, but also to support the families who are being destroyed, especially the families of the men who have been incarcerated, have no chance of getting out anytime soon.
Of course, in many cases, they're the breadwinners for their family.
A lot of them have young children at home.
And so this fund has been created also to help defray some of just their daily expenses.
Can you give us, do you know what the URL is for that one?
Yes.
Patriotfreedomproject.com.
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What about the GOP's institutional response to conservatives and Republican voters being targeted politically?
Not just silence, but complicity with the right.
You're going to hear this all week, people, Republican senators and Leaders coming out saying how awful that day is.
It's a dark day in our democracy.
It should never have happened.
Blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, they don't care what this FBI is unleashing, you know, raiding people's homes at dawn and pointing guns at their children or their elderly wives, which I've heard of numerous times and I talk about in my book.
Only one U.S.
senator has really said anything, and that's Ron Johnson.
The rest of them have been silent.
There have been a few House Republicans, MTG, Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, Andy Biggs, a small handful who have stood up and challenged the DOJ for this abusive investigation.
But otherwise, it has been silence.
And, you know, a lot of top leaders in the country who could help out have not stepped up and either donated money or spoken out in defense of these detainees or the 700 defendants, that's for sure.
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Last question for you.
Why do you do what you do in the face of the power of the left and the media?
Well, first of all, and I also want to thank you, Seb, and you do get a shout out in my book, of course, because you've helped bring this story and my reporting to all of your viewers.
So I'm very grateful to you and the team, Jeff and Eric.
So thank you so much.
Why do I do it?
I don't know.
I just feel like, not as a journalist, but as an American, it's the right thing to do.
And what's happening to defenseless, voiceless Americans is wrong.
And we have to hold people accountable, even when it's sort of scary.
But I feel that ultimately we will all be exonerated.
These people will be exonerated, too.
And the bad guys, at least most of them, will be held accountable for what they've done.
Julie Kelly is the answer to the question I get all the time, which is, well, what difference can I make?
Julie, are you a professional reporter?
When did you start writing?
Well, my background is in politics, and so I do a lot of communications.
No, but when did you start writing like a quote-unquote journalist?
Was it 20 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago?
I think it was five years ago.
All right, so there you go.
There you have it.
When you ask me, when you call in here, and God bless all of you, millions of you listening, who think that, well, what difference can you make?
You can make a Huge difference.
Be a little bit like Julie Kelly.
The only thing you have to do... Only a little.
Only a little.
If a lot of us are just a little bit like Julie Kelly, this will be a cakewalk.
Why?
Because the thing that animates her, you heard it, it's like the great Andrew Breitbart.
Why did he do what he did?
I mean, truly a quixotic figure tilting at windmills according to some way back then.
He did it Because he hates injustice.
These are true justice warriors, not the fake social justice movement.
These are true warriors.
Why?
Because the thing that animates Julie is what animated Andrew as well.
It is stopping bullies.
Forget the politics.
Forget the labels.
Forget Donald Trump, MAGA, The Squad.
It's not about politics.
It's about bullies getting away with that which they should not get away with.
And the only thing that stops a bully is when you stand up to them with the truth.
And that's what she does every single day.
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