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Oct. 9, 2018 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Get Off My Lawn Podcast #88 | Every argument comes down to nature VS. nurture

Identical twins separated at birth are the errant thread that unravels the whole sweater. When they invariably discover each other they have the same dog, same car, similar looking husband, and basically the same vocation. This makes people very uncomfortable because it sounds like eugenics and that’s Nazi shit. Don’t worry kids. You can concede that we are 80% determined from birth without giving up free will and accusing everyone down on their luck of being born that way. 

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Every argument comes down to nature versus nurture.
Everything comes down to that, really, when we're talking about humans, or as the experts call it, sociobiology.
I saw this movie the other night, Three Identical Strangers, and it's about these triplets who were separated at birth.
And I have always said, Identical twins separated at birth are the errant thread that unravels the whole sweater.
You're probably starting to glean that I'm a nature man.
Nature man!
I'm nature man!
Now the right is said to be pro-nature, meaning you are who you are from birth.
There's nothing really that can change that.
The left is all about nurture.
And they say, this guy's a criminal, this guy's doing bad, because he had a rough upbringing, and if he had the right opportunities, and the right experiences, and the right education, he'd be an upstanding citizen.
Obama is the king of nurture.
He's like, everyone needs an education!
No, I disagree.
And we used to be much more into nature.
Over-nurture, but it got to sound Nazi-ish and eugenic-sy.
And then we just dropped the whole thing.
And now we're just nurture, nurture, nurture.
Because nature is ugly.
I don't know why.
You can make a stereotype about a group.
Irish people get real ornery when they're drunk.
Nixon said that.
He goes, the Irish get real mean when they're drunk, particularly the real Irish.
Meaning ones with an accent.
You can make a stereotype about a group as long as you reboot the hard drive and every time you meet someone, you don't assume that they're part of that group.
So when you meet one Irishman, you don't assume that he's going to be a drunk and he's going to be mean when he drinks whiskey.
However, when talking about millions of Irish, you can go, eh, take it easy with those millions.
They might get ornery.
And I've always been kind of obsessed with identical twins.
There's another good movie.
Maybe I can dig it up.
Asian Identical Twins Separated at Birth France.
It's cute little twinsters it's called.
And it's in 2015.
2015, and this one twin was raised in France.
And the other was raised in America, and one of them did a viral video I don't know how you know that an Asian is an identical twin, because they tend to look pretty darn similar.
To, uh, to the naked eye.
Um, I was gonna say to bigots like me, that's terrible, Kevin.
Um, but, uh...
In that movie, Twinsters, it's like nature, nature, nature, nature, right?
It's amazing.
They're so similar.
And then they get uncomfortable towards the end of the movie and they go, but, uh, one of them reads comic books and the other doesn't know what a comic book is.
Ergo, They're very different.
And the similarities you saw are just silly.
And they just sort of flush the entire first 90% of the movie down the toilet.
Which is exactly what they do with three identical strangers.
It is similar, similar, similar.
You're not gonna believe this.
They all smoke Marlboros.
They all finish each other's sentences.
They all cross their legs the same way.
And then something terrible happens and they go, see?
There's no similarities.
It's all nurture.
There's no nature.
Now the crazy part is, this has already been discovered by people who don't find all this uncomfortable.
In fact, a buddy of mine just sent me an article about this.
Where was it now?
I'm doing all this live research.
Sent me an article about this.
We've all, everyone know, anyone who's curious about this knows the answer.
That it's 80-20.
Is the most you can give nurture, and that's 20% nurture, 80% nature.
I've been clear on what nature nurture means, right?
Are we on the same page with that?
You're born gay.
You're born who you are.
The you that's listening to this right now, I could have thrown you out of a helicopter in Vietnam.
You'd speak Vietnamese, but you'd basically be you.
If you're a carpenter, you'd be a carpenter.
Like there's these other twins that are actually in the movie Three Identical Strangers, and they did a movie or a book together called Identical Strangers.
They discovered each other, uh, one grew up poor, one grew up rich, same car, same income, husbands look the same, same fucking dog?
Let that sink in, as Paul Watson would say.
Um, and one did film reviews, and was a film critic, and the other worked in film.
They're both totally obsessed with film.
That's how much of you is predetermined.
Uh, now, I can feel my dad in me.
Ew, that's gross.
I mean his DNA, not his denk.
Not his D-I-N-K.
Actually, me and my dad joke about it all the time.
There's a horror movie that was big in the, I think it was the early 80s, and it was called The Beast Within.
And it's about this invisible guy who goes and rapes people, women.
And then they get pregnant, they have a baby, and the baby's fine.
And then when it turns 18, it becomes an invisible rapist, goes and rapes some other lady, she gets pregnant, and so on and so on and so on.
The Beast Within.
It's like a little Chiquita.
Invisible ghost rapist that lives in your body.
And then when you turn 18, it comes out.
And I always, like, look at my hands around him, and I'll have his gestures, or I'll say something he said, and I'll go, THE BEAST WITHIN!
NOOOO!
Now, I don't think I necessarily was predetermined to be doing, like, this talkie show or the podcast or the show on CRTV.
That's not necessarily predetermined, but it was definitely going to be something media-related, pop culture-related, and I definitely was going to be continually fired and, you know, ostracized because I think I make trouble for myself, and I think that's a genetic trait.
My dad always got fired from his jobs.
He was trouble.
He was a nightmare to work with, and I'm a total nightmare to work with.
I'm a son of a bitch.
Like when my son was learning snowboarding and he wanted to switch to skis because it was hard.
And he goes, I want to switch to skis!
You got to switch to skis!
I switched to skis, dude, because I am old.
And although I snowboarded for years as a young man, I can't bend over.
You're a young man.
You got to start with the hard one.
And he goes, I want to quit.
And I go, McInnes' don't quit.
We get fired.
So that was predetermined.
I think atheism is predetermined.
Yeah.
In fact, you want to get controversial here, kids?
I'm more of a 95-5 guy.
95% of you is predetermined.
Now there's, you still have free will.
But it's up to you what kind of atheist you are.
It's up to you.
You're going to work with your hands if you're a carpenter.
There's a myriad of carpentry out there.
And you could work at a tool and die place.
You might make motorcycle parts with one of those big machines that can make parts.
But if you're going to work with your hands, you're going to work with your hands.
If you're going to be an intellectual, you're going to be an intellectual.
If you're going to be an academic, you're going to be an academic.
This, by the way, brings up another thing that I'm kind of becoming obsessed with, and that's the number 5%.
I know I sound like Gary Busey on meth right now.
All the stars, 5% of the stars, if you look up, they give you ideas.
95 don't.
Only 5% of the stars are inspiring!
No, but seriously folks, I think 5% of people, women, will be better in the workforce not having kids.
95% are better suited to be moms and stay at home.
I think 5% of the people should go to college and get post-secondary education.
They're academics, they're intellectuals, they need to learn.
95% should not.
95% should either have a trade, or run a business, or open a restaurant, or... start a book publisher, I mean a million different things.
And that's the way it used to be, by the by.
Back when we were more comfortable with nature over nurture, uh, in Britain, they did this thing called your O-levels at 14.
That's what they did for my dad.
My dad was, uh, had a high IQ, and I don't think his siblings did.
working-class guy and that's pretty common in big Irish families it's and they were Scotch Irish it's called the spike and out of say six kids you'll they'll all be sort of the same IQ and then they'll be one who has a crazy IQ and I think that was my dad but he married a bimbo and so I am half bimbo half genius So he did his O-Levels at 14, and they just go, oh, you're a genius, okay, you go to this school, you guys are all dumb, you go to trade school.
And no one gave a shit.
And nor should they.
That's fine.
If it was Obama, they'd all be going to fancy colleges, and going to university, and getting in debt, and having no trade, and the result of that is they drop out, they feel stupid, or what a lot of colleges are doing now is they're lowering the quality of education.
To the history of rap and how it conflates with rock and roll.
Or the philosophy of self.
That was an actual class in my school.
This is the late 80s.
Imagine what it's like now.
Oh, I remember there was a class, it was all over the news.
How to be gay.
There's a guy on Twitter who teaches Beyonce.
Fucking, what's his name, Toure.
You know that guy, the black guy who had a show on CNN for a while?
He has a PhD in PRINCE.
Not the son of the king, the purple rain guy.
That's his PhD, he has a doctorate.
He's Dr. Prince.
So anyway, they either lower the standards and do all that crap, or these guys drop out.
And then they're just wandering around dropouts with tons of debt.
Whereas in my version of events, and we recognize that only 95%- only 5% should be intellectuals, then, uh, those guys would have a trade, they'd have a life, they'd have a culture.
You know, being a plumber is more than just being a plumber.
You've got your union, you've got your gang, you've got your guys, you've got your inside jokes.
There's a lot of shitty trades out there.
Like Anthony Kumi and knockin' tin, that sucks.
But there's a lot of awesome trades, like electrician, where you can be creative.
And it's fun.
Not that being creative... That's another thing, too.
You don't have to be creative.
And here's another example of the 5%.
I think 5% of people are funny.
Right?
And it's a weird trait.
It's sort of like artistic talent.
I think 5% of the people have artistic talent.
And that's genetic.
All this shit I'm saying is genetic, by the way.
And my grandfather was a talented artist.
He was a painter and he did all kinds of life drawing and stuff.
My mother, she wasn't really into it.
But she was incredible.
She still is.
She's getting into it now in her old age.
She takes painting classes and stuff.
She does these weird dinosaur mosaics and shit that are very, very good.
Like, totally accurate.
They look like a dinosaur.
It's not, you know, a shitty painting, like you would think it was a professional.
But I remember as a kid, I used to love to draw.
I was a cartoonist.
That was my first sort of foray into a vocation.
I was definitely determined to make that my job.
Which was dumb, because it doesn't pan out.
It takes you eight hours to do a page that someone reads in three seconds.
It's not a good distribution of labor, but it deserves a lot more respect than it gets.
Although in Montreal, it's very well respected.
It's like France.
You're very cool if you're a cartoonist.
Here in America, they just go, what, you mean Superman?
No, no, no, no, no.
That's a different art form.
I'm an autobiographical cartoonist.
Oh, you're a loser.
Yeah, I guess that's one way to put it.
But I remember as a kid, uh, I would be drawing something, and I'd go, how do you do a- how do you draw a raccoon again?
Hey mom, how do you draw a raccoon?
And she'd go, ugh, bored, she'd just grab the paper, draw a PERFECT raccoon, and then just throw it back to me.
Same with, like, drawing a face.
She'd draw, like, my brother, just absolutely perfectly, looked like a photograph, and she had no interest in it.
I think because she resented my grandfather because he walked out on my grandmother, long story.
Uh, so that- she was part of that 5% and, uh, she just didn't- she chose not to use it.
So, here's the big picture.
The libs say that we're a 50-50.
50% of you is nature, 50% of you is nurture.
That's- they do that by cheating.
You know how they get to that number?
They include things like a cleft palate and red hair and freckles and all these irrelevant physical traits.
No.
What matters is your frontal lobe, that part of your brain.
And that ain't no 50-50.
Anyone who's looked into this at all concedes that it's 80-20.
The development of your brain is 80% totally predetermined.
And again, we see this at people separated at birth.
I still intend to get to this movie, believe it or not.
Oh, and I gotta find you that survey.
But I want to add one thing about the five percent.
So I said five percent of people are funny, right?
Isn't it funny that a hundred percent of comedy Stand-up comedy at big cities like Chicago, New York, LA, probably even smaller cities like Madison, but basically all of stand-up.
I know there's The South and there's Larry the Cable Guy and all that, but they don't get included in, you know, the Rolling Stones Top 50, even though they sell a lot.
So the kind of comedy that we all see, like Louis C.K.
and all that, It doesn't necessarily represent the numbers.
It's not the most popular by any means.
Jeff Foxworthy outsold all of them, including Bill Cosby.
But, um, I'm confusing the whole thing.
When I say comedy to you, you know what I'm talking about, right?
I mean Louis C.K., David Cross, and Jeanine Garofalo, and Bill Burr, and all that.
And when I talk about Comedy Central, that's a lot easier, because it's X amount of shows.
But the stand-up that you and I know, And Comedy Central and the entire staff of all of Comedy Central.
They are 99% Trump-hating liberals.
Isn't that weird?
When you think that 5% of America is funny, yet this group that probably represents in the political spectrum in America, they probably represent like 25% of the country, these far lefties, but they represent 99% of the comedy.
They've taken it over.
And that's not representational of the population.
Like I told you, 5% of plumbers are funny.
So that means that that plumber Is inordinately talented, and he should leave plumbing and have a gig at Comedy Central, where he would just slay.
This is what happened with Anthony Cumia.
5% of the people knocking tin, doing air conditioning repairs, where he worked, he was one of that 5%.
So he went to Howard Stern, did a funny imitation, and the next thing you know he has a radio show.
And now, and he makes millions.
That's the way the free market should go.
But comedies change that, and they've avoided it.
Now they have a monopoly.
This one tiny group has a monopoly on comedy.
So, yeah.
Everyone agrees that it's 80-20, right?
But let me find this article.
Okay, here it is.
It's on Quillette.
And it was published, uh, September 25th.
And it says, Forget Nature vs. Nurture.
Nature has won.
And it's written by Gregory Cochran.
And, uh, it's a review of a book called, Blueprint, How DNA Makes Us Who We Are.
In Blueprint, how DNA makes us who we are, Robert Plomnim makes the case that genetic differences cause most variation in psychological traits, things like personality and cognitive abilities, the way your parents raise you, the schools you attend.
They don't have much effect on those traits.
Children are similar to their parents, but that similarity is due to shared genetics rather than shared family environment.
That's a good example of this, by the way, is that baby Einstein.
Parents, they've noticed, who played kids' classical music, these baby Einsteins, ended up being smarter.
Yeah, because smart parents are curious about things like baby Einstein, and will play it for their kids, and these kids would inherit the genetics anyway.
Now, I think the reason this has fallen out of fashion is, and the Swedes used to do it in very intense ways in Northern Europe, but I think it fell out of fashion because in the 50s, post-World War II, we were evil.
And the Nazis, the World War II, had raised the bar on horror.
And people were just darker human beings.
Like when I watched this through Identical Strangers, and you'd see people that were involved in this thing.
I'm sort of giving the ending away.
They were just so callous about what they had done.
And it reminded me of Soros talking about when he worked with the Nazis in World War II.
And he was laughing about it.
And I think Mengele and all that genetic stuff, the way we treated people, just were just considered more garbage back then.
Like, we have had such beautiful lives that we sort of tune out the horror that was the 40s.
But it wasn't just the six million Jews that were killed.
There was holocausts and major slaughters and purges all over that with the Poles and Germans were slaughtered to the millions.
And in cities like Dresden, where they were bombed so hard, The lakes were on fire.
The lakes were boiling.
So when people jumped in water to avoid the bombing, they were boiled alive.
And I think the people who survived that and came out of that were just like, let's do some experiments.
Jews, Germans, Poles, everyone was like, let's try some genetics.
Let's kill all the retards.
Let's make all the handsome people fuck in a giant fucking camp.
Like that was just what they did.
And they did it in New York.
They did it to Puerto Ricans.
Puerto Ricans, the whole New Yorican thing, there's sort of some animosity there, where they're like, no, I'm not a New Yorker, I'm a Puerto Rican.
Puerto Rican Day Parade, Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico, we speak Spanish here, we're not part of New York.
There's a sort of unwillingness to assimilate.
And you go, what's the animosity from?
You weren't slaves.
Why do you hate New York?
Oh, because you tried to kill us.
In the 50s, we encouraged Puerto Rican women to sterilize themselves.
Someone up top decided that Puerto Ricans aren't a huge asset to the city, so they would encourage these women to permanently tie their tubes or whatever with a financial incentive.
That's how they do it.
A lot of Puerto Ricans are on welfare.
Let's tie these women's tubes up.
We'll have less people on welfare.
Yeah, you're also committing ethnic genocide.
Ethnocide.
And liberals do it today, by the way, with Down Syndrome.
They ended Down Syndrome.
Now, I don't know the exact stats, probably 100% of liberals, yeah, 100%, I would say 90, well, let's go back to my 95-5.
95% of the people who do that retard test where they see that it has a thick spine, they get an abortion.
I would even wager a lot of pro-lifers who are Christian, and talk a big game, when they actually see the, whatever it's called, ultrasound, and the doctor says, this is someone who will be retarded, um, and you'll be looking after them for the rest of your life, and after you die, they will ideally die, but they won't be able to take care of themselves.
And I think a lot of pro-lifers might secretly do that.
Now, Christians, I'm not calling Christians hypocrites.
I'm sure most Christians who say they're pro-life are doing it, but, I don't know, man.
I'm basing this on nothing.
But everyone talks a big game until the chips are down and it's time to make the decision.
Anyway, for whatever reason, all of the Down Syndrome kids are gone.
When did you last see one?
They just vanished off the face of the earth.
And when you have Down Syndrome, you're not a complete retard.
So you're walking around going, yeah, what happened to us?
And eventually you're going to discover that you are being murdered.
You are being ethnically cleansed.
I mean, you're basically a Jew in 1943 in Germany.
The society you're in is ending you.
They are collectively deciding to end you.
I mean, that must be... How do you not commit suicide?
When you realize that your kind is becoming extinct on purpose.
This isn't the dodo bird getting eaten by a few foxes.
This is someone saying, let's extinguish Down syndrome.
Let's extinguish you people.
You also see this with the deaf, by the way, with cochlear implants.
Wow, this is the Gary Busey episode.
With cochlear implants, you know, deafness is cured and a lot of deaf people are going, what's the matter with being deaf?
Why are you ending?
I'm not making fun of the deaf people, by the way, I'm just doing their voice to add some color.
But a lot of parents, and I kind of get their mentality, like, deaf culture, we want deaf culture, we want our kid to sign with us.
Sorry, we're getting rid of that.
You are less good than someone who can hear.
So we're fixing that problem.
Now with Down syndrome, it's far more intense.
And with abortion, you're also going to see these sort of lesser cultures, more primitive cultures coming in here and going, oh gosh, we just did an ultrasound and it's a girl.
Those are gross.
I want to have a boy to continue my lineage.
Get an abortion.
So you're going to start seeing gender side.
And that's something you can look up.
So it's funny that feminists are so pro-choice, because you go, actually, it's pro-lifers who want to save daughters from being aborted.
Sorry, I'm nude now, and I just had a coffee, and it shrunk my dick, and it's so small right now, it could be...
And it's normally gigantic, but I don't think people understand the range penises have.
And right now, with this caffeine coursing through my veins, it's gone.
It's basically just foreskin.
The meat has gone back up into my body.
I don't know why.
I guess it needed it to help my brain think.
So yeah, gendercide.
Oh yeah!
We also see people be totally comfortable with nature over nurture when it comes to sperm donations.
So it's all nurture.
Obama says everyone has to go to college.
We're all the same.
But once again, when the chips are down and someone is about to put sperm into their body, now all of a sudden they want to know the race, they want to know his background, they want to know his IQ.
IQ is an undiscussable subject when you're talking about people walking around.
But when it comes to sperm in your body, all of a sudden you care.
And you want to know what it is, and you want to make sure it's well over a hundred.
So they're all... It's one of those subjects where everyone avoids it, but if you were to, like, get them alone in a room and give them four beers, they'd go, yeah, I believe that it's 80-20 at least.
Anyway, so you can look up that article on your own, but let me play you the trailer.
Now, the reason I've avoided talking about this movie until now, even though that's kind of what I want to talk about the whole thing, the whole time, is because I have mad spoiler alerts, yo.
So if you want to see Three Identical Strangers, and you don't want to have any spoilers, I would stop listening to me now, press pause, note the time, we're 25 minutes in, and then come back later.
Okay, so, I'm gonna play some of the trailer for you.
And I'm gonna- this is all spoilers coming up.
Thanks for telling it, but it's true.
We worded it.
It started when I went to college.
It was the first day of school.
All these people are coming up to me saying, Eddie!
How are you?
Eddie!
Hi!
I'm like, my name's not Eddie.
I don't know what you're talking about.
As soon as this guy turned around, I knew it was Eddie's double.
I said, you're not gonna believe this.
You have a twin brother.
Alright.
So here's the story.
These guys are Jewish.
They are Long Islanders.
They're adopted.
They are separated at birth.
They don't know that they are That this guy has a twin.
Then they start doing more research and they find out we're not just twins, we're triplets!
We were triplets separated at birth!
So you go, wow, that's crazy, right?
And it's fun, and it's cute, and these guys were huge celebrities.
They went to Studio 54, and they're on Phil Donahue, and they're in Desperately Seeking Susan.
They ogle Madonna when she walks in in that part of the movie.
They were it.
They were the hot fashion thing.
It was just the big trend.
Everyone, they were on Pepsi commercials, probably.
I don't know.
It's about, their names are Robert Shafran, Edward Galland, Eddie Galland, and Dave Kelman.
Obviously they all have different last names.
So you're watching it, and it's funny and it's cute.
But inevitably, right, you start thinking, wait a minute, why did you separate triplets?
And the adoption agency, they finally track them down, and it's an adoption agency that dealt with Jews specifically.
And they go, it's easier to split them up.
And you go, eh, I don't know if I believe that.
I mean, having three babies is probably brutal, right?
Especially the first seven weeks.
But there must be some cool advantages to triplets and twins.
Namely, once you get through the hell of the diapers and the sleepless nights, you just got through all of that at once.
And now you got the cute phase.
Which is like two and up, and you've done all the heavy lifting.
It's sort of like when you're moving, and you move the heavy boxes first, and then you just got a bunch of lamps at the end.
So this would have been all lamps.
I think if I was going to adopt a baby, and I had no kids, my wife was infertile, I'd go, why don't we just do the triplets, we'll get three out of the way, boom.
And of course, you're scared of the trauma of separating triplets, and these guys did go through brutal trauma.
Now I don't know if this is typical of a lot of adopted kids, but um, They were banging their heads against the crib after they were adopted.
I've had three kids.
I've never seen any baby bang his head against a wall.
Not with my kids, not with anyone's kids.
That's unusual behavior.
Maybe you can fill me in if this happens with other adopted kids.
But these poor bastards, these poor little babies, were... And by the way, you're gonna bawl your eyes out when you see that part.
I'm almost crying right now talking about it.
These kids were traumatized.
So then it gets even crazier.
They were separated on purpose as a nature nurture experiment.
Some psychotic Jewish guy who survived World War II and is part of that demographic I was just talking about where they're just cold and callous.
Basically, the boomers in the 50s, I don't care if they were in World War II, I don't care if they were in New York and they were talking about Puerto Ricans, or if they were Jews who survived, or they were German soldiers who survived, basically the whole Western boomer world was callous, cruel, and cold.
Because they had just seen the apocalypse.
So they probably wouldn't like that.
I think my dad sunk a bag of puppies in a river.
I'm not totally positive, but I believe that their dog had puppies.
And my grandmother said, go on, take these to the vet and put them down.
Here's five quid.
Or maybe it would be one quid, one pound.
And I believe my dad was like, I'll just put a brick in a bag and throw it in the River Clyde.
And then I got a pound to myself.
That's what I'll do.
That's just the way it was back then.
Like we were talking about on Get Off My Lawn, Mike, we were talking about Bonnie McFarlane, where she was raped.
And it was, her friends were upstairs, just like, meh.
She should get laid, it's been a, she's too old to be a virgin.
Let's let her scream, she'll get it over with.
I mean, we're the nicest, like, 2018 is the nicest we've ever been.
I think we're too soft.
But I'm glad we're not cool with rape and murdering puppies anymore.
Anyway, this dude, who runs the, uh, Who runs the adoption agency.
Peter B. Neubauer.
He ran this Jewish adoption agency.
He says, let's do this.
Let's separate triplets, right?
At birth.
And we will put one baby with a very loving man.
Now, they've already adopted, they've sent out Jewish kids to families before, and so there's these sisters, right?
They're all 21.
They're not related.
And they've been put in different families.
And then they monitor... See, the whole adoption agency...
Had nothing to do with adoption.
It was about monitoring behavior.
It was a fake adoption agency.
So these girls go to these parents sort of as, um, as, uh, litmus tests.
And they check on the girls and they go, okay, you know, those three girls that we got rid of a long time ago, I've been monitoring them.
And one of this father is very loving.
This father is a doctor.
He's very busy and doesn't see them, but he loves them when he does see them.
And then this guy is very strict military guy.
So we have the three different types of parenting.
Let's separate these three boys.
They'll bang their heads for a little bit.
They'll get over it.
And then we will see if it's nature or nurture.
And so they do.
And they discover it's nature.
And they go, good, we finally solved this.
It's maybe... the differences are negligible.
Maybe 5%.
Maybe Gavin is right.
It's 95-5.
You know, a lot of people say 80-20, but the 95-5 sounds more reasonable.
Gavin always had it right.
We didn't have to torture... By the way, you don't have to torture these kids.
There's identical twins separated at birth.
I mean, not all the time, but there's plenty of them out there.
So you can, this experiment's already occurring naturally.
Why did you sinister, bizarre Nazis, sorry to call a Jew a Nazi, but why did you sinister, bizarre Nazis...
Fuck with these children's lies.
It was so dark.
It was like I I know like when I talk about Satan and stuff I keep it very metaphorical and some people more Christian than me are just like oh no that guy has Satan in him or Satan did that like they get real When I'm watching this I was like I saw Satan like I was like this is not a metaphorical Satan this is like people with red skin who look like Hellboy like they have pointed tails and the parents
Uh, we're sort of where you were about 20 minutes ago where you went, wait a minute, why did they separate triplets?
So the parents go into this adoption agency and they go, um, why did you separate the kids?
And the loving dad was like, I would have taken all of them!
And they said that lie about how it's easier to separate kids.
And then they all leave pissed off.
They tried to sue them.
Oh, yeah, that's the other thing.
This sinister adoption agency that's actually experiments on children is with all the top brass in New York.
They're tied in with judges and magistrates and lawmakers and politicians.
And so when they tried to sue them, The lawyers were happy to take the case, and then invariably the lawyer would call them and go, uh, this is a conflict of interest.
I'm afraid I can't take it anymore.
Fuck knows what that lawyer got.
Like a picture of his kid going to school or something?
It would be very unfortunate if your child was to disappear, don't you think, Mr. Sloopin' Pops?
Um, so they couldn't sue them, but when the parents left in a rage, right, from this fancy, beautiful adoption center that's in, like, the, on, on, you know, Central Park, they go back in, because one of them forgot his umbrella.
I'm ruining the movie for you, sorry about that.
But they go back in.
And there they are.
The satanic, rich lawyer people.
Baby experimenters.
And you know what they're doing?
They're drinking champagne.
Because they just dodged a bullet and their lie worked.
And no one's gonna know about this study.
Clink, clink.
Sip in the bubbly.
Doesn't that give you the heebie-jeebies?
I just turned into Kramer from Seinfeld.
Oh, my dick's coming back.
I guess the caffeine's worn off.
So, you're watching the movie.
Gigantic, gigantic spoiler here.
If you want to pause it, we're at 35.
Oh, actually, we're not at 35 because I'm going to take out a part where I was looking up that link.
Yeah, some of this is edited.
I'm Opie.
So we keep watching, and one of the guys kills himself.
They open a restaurant together called Triplets.
By the way, folks, don't work with your friends, don't work with your family.
It's bad news.
You're invariably going to fight.
Running a business is just fighting.
That's why I always tell people to box if you want to be an entrepreneur, because generating income, especially in New York City, it's constantly sparring.
And you don't be sparring with your brothers.
But they did spar.
And someone, always, whenever you run a business with someone, this is a whole other podcast, but you're always the one who busts your ass, and they're always the ones not working.
And the other guy sees it the opposite.
He's the one out there knocking on doors, and you're the one sitting on your ass all the time.
You need a hipster, a hacker, and a hustler, and they all have to work exactly equally, and you need all kinds of backup plans for when some guy does end up being a lazy piece of shit.
Anyway, so they split, and they also, by the way, all have mental problems.
The depression, you know, nothing too drastic, but one of the guys shot himself.
I guess, you know, you and I have ups and downs, but I think manic depressives, they have bigger ups than us, and then when they have downs, they go really down.
You can synthesize this if you become a cokehead, where your ups will be super high and your downs will be super down.
That's why a lot of cokeheads end up killing themselves.
So he killed himself, right?
And we've been watching this whole movie.
It's a fascinating film, especially when you see how sinister they are.
And then I think the filmmakers go, wait a minute.
Nature 1 in this, just like that article I told you to look up, that sounds like eugenics.
That sounds like people who are suffering and doing badly were born to do badly.
That sounds kind of racist against blacks too.
It sounds like I'm saying blacks were made for prison.
Uh, I want to change the whole angle.
And by the way, for the record, folks, when you're doing this Nature or Nurture stuff, and you come to that horrible place where it's like, oh, blacks must be inferior.
They're in prison, right?
No, asshole.
Blacks were committed crimes the same as whites before welfare.
Before they had this brutal divorce rate.
78% of black families in America are fatherless.
That's why blacks are in jail.
It's not genetic.
And by the way, the beauty of being a libertarian is you never have to face any of this uncomfortableness because you just go, most qualified person for the job, I don't give a shit who it is.
I don't care if, like we have this new law that women have to be CEOs, a certain percentage of CEOs have to be female.
Not in my world.
I don't care what you are, who you are.
I don't care if I run a company and I look around me and every single person at the company is an Asian male.
Oh well, that's who showed up.
You don't have to discuss eugenics, or when you don't enforce this pizza pie where everything is a perfect representation of the demographics, then you don't have to confront these spooky truths.
And again, my spooky truth is not that some races are superior to others.
It's a liberal obsession, affirmative action, that sort of enforces the bigotry of low expectations.
So I would argue that it's the left and their fear of this whole world that makes them the racists because they're so petrified of things not turning out perfectly.
Some people are better at other things.
There's not a lot of short, fat Chinese guys in the NBA.
Look at Massa—like, they talk about wealth, too.
This pisses me off, where they go, 4%, oh, 90% of the world's wealth.
That's not fair.
No, 4% are just really good, or their parents or their grandparents are really good at generating income.
It's a very rare talent.
To generate tons, to generate billions.
It's not cheating, there's not a finite amount of money.
And a great example of this is math.
You could say 4% of the world are able to find 3x plus y cubed spun about the z-axis.
Yeah, the Fields Medal in mathematics is a very tough medal to get.
Not everyone deserves the Fields Medal.
There is a tiny group, mostly male by the way, who are able to do mathematics at that level.
Sorry!
You don't deserve to be good at math.
It's not a gift.
You don't deserve to be a billionaire.
Sorry.
Anyway, so at the end of the movie, they go, see?
It's nurture.
Because that guy killed himself and the others didn't.
What?
First of all, They add another nature thing in, too, where they go, the mother had mental problems because she had to give up her triplets, and then they all had mental problems because they were separated.
Now, I would argue that women who give their kids up for adoption are disproportionately not all.
Mentally unstable.
Right?
Because you're gonna say, I can't handle my own life, I was in a loony bin for a year, I can't handle these kids.
More stable people are gonna be like, this sucks, I'm 18 and I have triplets, but let's go, I got a strong family and I've never been committed.
So, the reason she's a drunk now, they found the mother by the way, and they didn't really care.
Because they had moms.
The reason she's a mess is because she was always, she's a genetic mess.
She's 95 nature, she was born a loony.
And the reason they all had mental problems, and they totally, the other two brothers just ignore this part of it too, was because they inherited the mental problems from their mother.
Now, people who have mental problems, they probably face suicide, and it's sort of like Russian Roulette, and this guy got a little too low, you know?
It's just like walking on thin ice, and he stepped out on a particularly weak spot and went under.
That doesn't mean that you can ignore all the other endless similarities with these three, but the movie does!
And the movie goes, his dad wasn't there for him.
So he raised him to be weak.
His dad was too mean.
And that's why he committed suicide.
Meanwhile, the father's still alive.
So you just did this whole documentary blaming this boy's death, the man's death.
He was in his 30s or 40s when he killed himself.
You're blaming this man's death on the father and the father's sitting right there.
You can tell the guy's destroyed.
He looks like a weird bird.
He's really skinny and he's got these crazy turquoise eyes.
He looks like a cockatoo.
So you're going up to Johnny Cockatoo and saying, way to kill your son, fuckface.
So in order to push this narrative that it's all nurture, they just put everything on the dad at the end of the movie.
And you go, guys, take it easy.
I'm not going to ignore the 99 similarities, 99% similarities, for the one moment, that 1%, where he was weak and killed himself.
You can't do that!
And now my wife and I had a sort of an argument about it that night, and she says, well, maybe if he was nurtured by the dad, then he would have not killed himself because he would have been stronger.
Yeah, possibly.
But that doesn't contradict what I'm saying.
I'm saying 95% of you is nature.
5% is nurture.
These guys have a mental problem weakness.
So my wife and I could both be right.
She's just saying that within that 5%, there could have been more nurturing, more hugs and kisses, and that might have saved him.
But that's not fair to say.
That's like saying they're born to be wild.
Maybe all three, the triplets, have this like built for speed and they love fast cars.
And one of them got into an accident and died.
And if the father had been better about seatbelts, then he would have lived.
Like it's a total roll of the dice, this suicide thing.
Look how many kids are dying of opioid ODs now.
You're gonna go up to the parents and go, Way to go, dude!
Couldn't have told your son that Oxy's dangerous?
Fuck, man.
Just killed him.
No.
That's not how it works.
Oh, and one more thing.
They talk to some of the researchers who were doing all this, and just like I was talking about earlier with this total apathy that you get from boomers who were exposed to World War II, they're laughing through it.
One of the guys, he's rubbing his hands together, almost like a racist caricature of a Jew.
He was an anti-Semitic cartoon.
And he's sitting kind of weird and arrogant with one leg off the side of the chair and he goes, yeah, I was sitting talking to these kids and I felt like it was so weird because I didn't tell them that they had another triplet a hundred miles away.
This is a guy that, sorry, I forgot this whole part.
They would go and do experiments with these kids and test their cognitive abilities and how they could test their IQs regularly to make sure they were still the same kids the whole time.
It wasn't just about parenting.
It was also about... And by the way, the movie tries to make it about parenting.
No, it was about IQ, strength, diseases.
They checked everything.
And the triplets all kept coming up the same, their whole lives.
And then you have a guy who was there.
And just like when Soros sort of shrugs off working with the Nazis, he goes, yeah, it was weird.
I mean, I was looking at these kids going, I just saw one that looked just like you a hundred miles away.
And then I didn't tell him.
Like, I understand you did a horrible thing because it was a different time, but can you show some remorse, please?
And then they had this other woman who was a secretary, and she's showing pictures of her with Michelle Obama and stuff, and she goes, Yes, well, the experiment turned out to be all nature, and, you know, I lived in Sweden now, and look, this is my plate collection.
Ha ha ha.
Jesus, you ripped three children away from each other.
Can you maybe just cry for the camera, please?
Anyway, it was a really bizarre movie and I've seen this happen now twice.
Twinsies and Three Identical Strangers are petrified of nature being the winner in the nature-nurture debate.
And once again, I was vindicated when I say that Identical twins separated at birth are the errant thread that unravels the whole sweater.
Because we see this time and time again.
And don't worry folks, it's not a Nazi thing to say.
Because when you meet someone, I don't care what the pattern is, you are starting from scratch.
That way we're all equal.
And this is why you should be a libertarian, Or a paleo-conservative, or a non-liberal, because everyone gets a fair chance.
We don't sit there with welfare-ruining families going, you just need a boost!
We go, I don't care who you are.
You got the grades, come on in.
It's 2018 now.
We're all starting on the same page.
Yes, sure, there's a billionaire out there who can go to private schools, but you could also become a billionaire.
Two-thirds of the world's billionaires are bootstrap billionaires.
Ralph Lauren is Ralph Shabinowitz or something.
He slept with his brothers in one bed in the Bronx.
And then he said, I want to mimic wasps.
I want to, I want to look like a rich Protestant.
Okay.
Do it.
Boom.
Multi-millionaire.
I don't know.
Maybe he's a billionaire now.
Any hizzle.
That's all I gotta say.
You should really check it out.
It's an incredible movie, and I think it's really sad that they flushed their own movie down the toilet in the last five minutes.
I like you more than a friend.
Going to do CRTV tonight, this Friday.
Oh, and I got a very exciting show on Friday.
I wanna do it, I wanna celebrate Otoya Yamaguchi.
Because it's October 12th, and we know what October 12th is, right?
That's the day in 1960 when Otoya Yamaguchi...
Assassinated the head of Japan's Socialist Party and ultimately ended socialism in Japan forever.
He later killed himself in prison, but that brave schoolboy Ended socialism, so we're gonna have a big funeral ceremony for him and murder him in a sort of a Pinochet funny way.
I'm gonna be doing a talk at the Metropolitan Club.
That's really just a celebration of Otoya's brave assassination.
Look him up, Otoya Yamaguchi.
Great kid.
1960.
Alright, I like you more than a friend.
Bye.
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