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July 23, 2018 - Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes
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Ep 158 | See No Evil | Get Off My Lawn
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Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Kevin McGuinness.
I am a disco fire in the gates of hell Don't you wanna know how we keep starting fire?
It's my desire, it's my desire, it's my desire Don't you wanna know how we keep starting fire It's my desire, it's my desire It's my desire Danger, danger High voltage win return That's a new trick I'm doing wherein I stop the music off camera It has nothing to do with the fact
that I'm yet to find a replacement for Dave Cass and I'm doing the show myself No, and this show this solo engineerless show With no other producer here at all, just me is going to go phenomenally smoothly We've got a jam-packed show for you today.
I got Lauren Southern in Australia.
She made it.
She's in.
Now, she had a bunch of visa trouble, and the Australians, I noticed, are a little cantankerous when you criticize them and say, what's the matter?
You scared of a little girl?
They go, we're not banning her.
Well, yeah, your government tried to.
I think Australia is suffering through the same disconnect that Britain and Canada has, where the media class and the people have nothing in common anymore.
So I think Australians are very happy to talk to Lauren, and I think they're very excited she's there, and Stefan Molynon.
I don't mean to downplay Stefan.
It's a two-person tour.
We'll probably talk to Stefan later on the week.
But she's banned in New Zealand.
The media class hates her.
Antifa's showing up.
So there is a minority of journalists and Antifa and bureaucrats, a very powerful and shrill minority that sound a lot louder than they are.
As far as the actual people showing up, tens of thousands of people are going to attend this tour and have a gay old time.
And again, at the end of the day, guys, we're talking about ideas.
Why are you so scared of ideas?
I really don't understand it.
Take the worst guy.
I've said this a million times, Richard Spencer.
What are his ideas going to do to you?
Start World War III and they'll be rounding up all the Jews and doing another Holocaust and all the blacks will have to go back to Africa and the Indians will all be killed?
They even go farther than that, by the way.
Like, I'm trying to be hyperbolic, but they're even crazier than that.
They also include handicap people.
They say they're for ableism, which I'll get to in a second.
That's just a phenomenal case.
I want to sort of, the reason I chose that song, by the way, I thought it was Panic at the Disco, because it sounds like it, doesn't it?
Panic at the Disco!
But that's not.
That's Electric 6.
But we did have some panic in LA, in Atwater Village.
This is, I guess, Northeast LA.
Some Proud Boys went to some random pub called the Griffin Pub, sat down and had some beers.
But because they were wearing MAGA hats, everyone went ballistic.
I might as well dive into that first.
So they show up and they say nothing.
They just enjoy themselves.
And this blogger, Josh Topolsky, there it is, he goes, all right, we got to go down there.
We have to go down there and stop them.
And it's strange because he goes, he says, let's wow them with displays of strength or go yell at them, right?
So he goes, let's go harass these people.
For what, by the way, for Klansman uniforms?
No, for supporting President Trump.
They decided that means proud boys are Nazis.
And they yell, no proud boys, no KKK.
So this guy says, let's go mess with them.
And then he freaks out when someone shoves him back.
He says, all I did is I politely walked up to them.
I asked one of them to take off his MAGA hat.
And then his sweaty hog pals circled us.
My girlfriend placed her hand on one boy's chest and he shoved her.
Then it went down.
This is, we keep seeing this again and again.
People picking fights and then going, what the hell happened?
I was just picking a fight.
But I have like, the backlash is bizarre.
Tim Heidecker from Tim and Eric, he wants to meet us.
He wants to fight us.
All these comedians want to brawl all of a sudden.
This is really weird.
I have this friend, this black guy named Brandon Johnson.
I used to hang out with him a lot when I would go to LA trying to sell shows.
And it was Jay Johnson, Dino, floppy blopless.
You know, the sort of in-crowd of comedy.
Awesome guys.
Jerry Miner, great guy.
Brandon, great guy.
But he sends this message where he goes, I remember you.
You used to hang out.
When you came down to hang out with Jay and Dino, I would hang out with you.
I know who you really are.
I wonder if your little gang does.
Pardon es moi?
So I think, by the way, you have to translate a lot of these messages from the left these days because they're so illogical.
I believe what this black man is saying is that I started a fascist white supremacist group and they would be mortified if they knew that I used to hang out with him, the black guy.
Isn't it bizarre how when they get data that contradicts their belief, they become more steadfast in those beliefs?
So Gavin's racist.
Really?
I used to hang out with him all the time.
Oh, maybe I'm wrong.
No, they don't do that.
They go, well, then that's a huge secret that we used to hang out, and I'm going to use it to ruin him.
Jesus Lord, I give up.
But here's some, look at these news items.
So here's just a local news deal on the Proud Boys going to a pub.
Well, the incident is causing quite a stir both online and here in Atwater Village.
Many people very concerned about what happened here last night.
Some of them even calling for this bar, the Griffin, to close its doors for good.
Can you just pause it?
People were slaves just like so.
Someone wears a MAGA hat and the bar has to shut its doors for good.
Why?
It's become a mecca for the Klan?
I don't understand this mentality.
How fragile can you possibly be?
Go ahead.
People were slaves just like that.
The video that's now going viral shows a group of men wearing Make America Great Again hats arguing with other bar patrons outside the Griffin in Atwater Village.
People in the neighborhood identified the group as the Proud Boys.
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, it's a hate group.
Neighbors say they complained to management, but the Proud Boys were allowed to stay.
Twitter has since exploded with posts about the incident.
This tweet from Justin Cathyer, a writer with Vice, has been retweeted by Justin.
Hey, LA friends, just a heads up to stay away from the Griffin in Outwater Village.
They accommodated a white supremacy group tonight and, when pressed about it, said the only color they see is green.
Let's make sure they don't see much of you.
You realize that the white people at that event, it was 19 Proud Boys.
Three of them were non-Jewish whites.
So there was three non-Hispanic, non-Jewish whites.
There was about four Jewish gentlemen.
There was about 10 Hispanic gentlemen and about four black guys.
I might be getting those numbers slightly wrong, but basically all the non-Jewish, potentially Nazi whites represented a small fraction.
And there's a video going around of the bar staff going, hey, if these guys are Nazis and I have to kick them out, how come there's so many blacks and Mexicans with them?
And then the response from that guy, the guy attacking them, is, why are you defending them?
LA is TDS Trump Derangement Syndrome Central.
TDS LA.
THE PROUD BOYS ALSO RESPONDED ON TWITTER SAYING WE WERE HANGING OUT HAVING BEERS.
JOSH AND HIS FRIENDS SHOWED UP LOOKING TO START A PROBLEM.
They did.
Then they cried online.
The end.
It wasn't long before the owners of the Griffin also responded, saying in part, neither I nor my business partner support any Nazi or white supremacist group.
Yes, I know.
But a Nazi tactic that I've used in the past with gang members.
There's no such thing as a Nazi bar.
I feel terrible and actually sick to my stomach.
Now thousands of people have taken to Yelp posting one-star reviews urging people to avoid the Griffin.
Someone wore a MAGA hat and I got diarrhea.
Go ahead.
A little frightening if this becomes a gathering point for this type of festering festering.
Did he say festering?
What's the charge?
The LAPD received a call.
Hi, there's people wearing MAGA hats in a bar.
Alrighty, what would you like me to do?
Come in and shoot them all and remove their hats right here is like kosher clue or whatever the f they think it is.
It's not.
When more confrontation starts up, a man had just spit towards Romero.
Why did you choose the uncivil before?
I was really upset.
Okay, fair enough.
That was brilliant.
Okay, okay.
*Cheering* Thank you.
Thank you.
Romero and about 30 others with proud guys were at the bar.
The group is self-described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a fraternal group spreading an, quote, anti-political correctness and anti-white guilt agenda.
It's America.
We should be able to express our opinions without being accosted in a non-confrontational way.
And he said, not only are you racist, now you're a stupid Mexican.
LAPD arrived and calmed tensions before a fight broke out.
It almost spin off.
But potential fights keep coming Romero's way because of the hat on his head with a slogan that sparks passion, debate, and fury.
It made me almost vomit.
How about that?
Anyway, what a bunch of lunatics.
I had no idea LA was so sensitive and so sort of out of touch.
Have you never heard of Proud Boys before?
In other news, Sable, a famous Proud Boy, our most creative one, did this across from ABC Disney, whoever does, whoever owns Showtime, Showcase.
It's all one big corporation.
That's the funny thing about these corporations.
They all seem to be Disney at the end of the day.
So anyway, he put up this banner in front of ABC, ridiculing Sasha Baron Cohen for ridiculing Sarah Palin and various other politicians, getting them, duping them as far as the preview goes, into supporting guns for toddlers.
Now, I know I always said, screw art, screw fairness.
It's us versus them.
Sasha Baron Cohen is clearly them.
He's against us.
But I got to say, if you are ridiculing leftist politicians too, and you predominantly mock the right, I still think it's funny.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I love this banner and I think stolen valor is evil, obviously.
However, I'm not so blind that I'm going to let politicians get away with saying that kindergartners should have guns.
That's a good trick Sasha played on the GOP.
And screw the GOP.
If Trump wanted toddlers to have guns, I would ridicule him.
Even our own Joe Walsh got duped.
We've got to have him on the show to discuss it, but check this out.
You want me to say on television that I support three and four-year-olds with firearms?
Is that what you're asking me to do?
Yes.
Typically, members of Congress don't just hear a story about a program and then indicate whether they support it or not.
I support the kindergartens program.
We in America would be wise to implement it, too.
It's something that we should think about in America, about putting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens, good guys, whether they be teachers or whether they actually be talented children or highly trained preschoolers.
Maybe having young people trained and understand how to defend themselves in their school might actually make us safer here.
A three-year-old cannot defend itself from an assault rifle by throwing a Hello Kitty pistol case at it.
I'm standing for this to put an age limit on the Second Amendment.
The intensive three-week kindergarten course introduces specially selected children from 12 to 4 years old to pistols, rifles, semi-automatics, and a rudimentary knowledge of mortars.
In less than a month, less than a month, a first grader can become a first grenader.
I don't know.
I don't hate that yet.
I mean, I haven't seen the stolen valor thing, and I obviously hate stolen valor, but as far as duping a bunch of Republicans, including our own buddies, into advocating toddlers having guns, that's a good prank.
You got us, and I'm sorry.
But I think I can do both, too.
I can support Sabo and the banner, mocking Sasha Baron Cohen for his stolen valor.
I can also laugh along with Sasha Baron Cohen when he dupes a bunch of guys into thinking it's okay for toddlers to have guns.
Anyway, lots of lunacy going around these days, but I want to start with the show.
We're running out of time here.
So there's this place called Islamberg, and our boys, proud boys, and a bunch of bikers for Trump, drive through it every year.
Just a way of saying, we know you're here.
We know you were started by a radical Pakistani cleric, Muslim cleric.
We know that you have training camps here.
We know that you're being investigated by alcohol, tobacco, and firearms for being a jihadi cult, as Clarion Project put it.
So we're not blind.
But of course, the media class, like Will Summers, Will Summer, his first reaction is, this is all paranoia and it's dangerous and Islamophobic paranoia.
These guys have never been there.
They've never looked it up.
They don't know anything about the founder or anything like that.
They never checked it out late at night through infrared goggles like many of our friends have.
But their first instinct is, oh, you're being ridiculous.
And isn't it funny how they are so eager to pillory white guys and Western guys and people who love Trump that just wearing a hat means the restaurant has to close down.
Meanwhile, you can have an all-Muslim community which is made from ex-dudes from Rikers that is linked to terrorism that's being investigated by the ATF and which is a lot more than a hat, by the way.
And the takeaway is, oh, you're being paranoid.
They're nice.
They're nice.
Anyway, yeah, much of the focus on Islamberg has been fueled by connections between a group it's affiliated with, the Muslims of America.
Affiliated with?
That's their base.
And they have bases all over the country.
Anyway, this goes on and they talk about how sweet we are.
And then you look at the Clarion Project, who's really good at researching this.
And they say the past half year has been turning sour for a U.S.-based jihadist cult with a terrorist history that claims to be establishing peaceful Islamic villages across America.
The group is being affected by multiple arrests of its members while it prepares for the impending death of its leader in Pakistan.
Since May, five reported members and associates of Muslims of America have been arrested for crimes ranging from murder to illegal weapons possession to running illicit drigs to forgery.
MOA used to be known as Jamaat al-Fukra, which you can look up and terrorism abounds.
So I think it's amazing that we have this double standard because it's just so suicidal.
Anyone who likes America is an evil Nazi and the restaurant must be closed down that they eat at.
Anyone who's training to destroy America is probably a sweetie.
Don't be so paranoid.
So let's get started here.
Let's talk to a guy I call Fatwa Jeff.
He was there at the Islamberg rally.
We'll talk to him about what was there.
Then I want to show you this video of possibly the worst boxer ever.
And then we're going to talk to Lauren Southern in Australia about the tour there and the obstacles she's facing trying to say simple things about Western civilization.
*music*
Jeff, are you there, sir?
Yes, sir, I'm here.
Uhuru.
Uhuru.
Now, I'm just reading the Daily Beast and it's talking about anti-Muslim bikers target Islamberg, New York for national security, which is put in sort of sarcastic quotes.
The hamlet has been the focus of far-right conspiracy theories that it's a terrorist enclave.
The paranoia got so bad that a man was convicted of planning to burn down the entire town.
Why are you so paranoid about some innocent Muslims who are just trying to express their faith?
That's an oxymoron, first of all.
True Muslims, if they're expressing their faith, are inclined to rule every mountaintop and every sea.
So that's first off.
Second of all, or second off, there's 23 of these facilities across the country.
They're all run by Jamaat al-Fuqrah, Sheikh Mubarak al-Ghilani out of Pakistan.
Christian Action Network has done an expose on them, released DVDs, which I've watched myself.
And I've actually been up there.
I was up there in 2002 in the fall.
My buddy had property about a mile or two outside of the west section of their camp, which is 77 square acres.
It's big.
You couldn't burn down.
One man could not burn down the whole village.
That's ridiculous.
It's divided amongst their shanty tent cities down at the southwest corner, basically where we ended our ride, where the state troopers made us make a left to go back to the entrance to Route 17, the highway that runs adjacent to their property.
Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
So let's explain to the layman.
Islamburg is a town for Muslims in upstate New York, and it was founded mostly by ex-cons, Muslim ex-cons, right?
Correct.
It was a lot of converts from Rikers Island.
If you go back to 1979, the Ayatollah said that you'll convert America from within.
He wasn't stupid.
Just like the Japanese, they knew they can't attack mainland America.
There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
You have to do it from within, and you prey upon the weak.
You prey upon people in jail that, you know, they want protection.
They want hope.
They want this.
Well, they get that and more.
And then they become, well, worse than what they were before, quote unquote.
I like to play devil's advocate and say, you know, maybe Will Summer of the Daily Beast is right.
Maybe these liberals are right.
Maybe it's just innocent Muslims, just like if there's a Hasidic Jewish town or there's an Amish town.
Now there's a Muslim town.
Why bother them?
And then on Breitbart, this was last year.
Can I respond to that real quick?
Yes.
If there was a Hasidic town or a, what, a proud boy town, and we were flying, let's say, a Confederate flag or even a proud boy flag, even the American flag in some states, and we were popping off automatic weapons fire or homemade fragmentation devices, guarantee you that there would be people there.
Boom.
So you have evidence that they are shooting off guns and doing military training.
In O2, I saw it with my own eyes.
How did you see it?
Were you looking through infrared at night or you could see with binoculars in the day?
I crawled through and spent a weekend in there in the woods.
Wow.
I saw it myself.
Now, I'm not the only one who saw it, but I'd rather not say who the other person is.
But yeah.
Well, sometimes, because we've talked about this in full disclosure, we've talked about this quite a bit in the past.
Sometimes I get the feeling that the feds don't like you, but not because you're wrong, but because they go, look, will you stop blowing up our spot?
We are working on this.
I'm lost.
I quarrel with that as well.
I'm sure, I mean, my dad was a cop.
I know that there are good.
My dad's a patriot.
He raised me to love America.
I have pictures of me at three years old raising the flag.
I love this place.
So I know that most police officers probably do want to take care of this and do the right thing and at least go in there and find out what the hell is going on.
Because when you watch that DVD and you hear the coroner for deposit say that when people die there, they leave them on the very road that we just drove through.
Wait, wait, what DVD?
Christian Action Network produced a DVD.
I can give it to you.
That chronicles all 23 of these camps throughout the country.
Oh, okay.
So, and there is video evidence of what I'm saying, of what I saw.
There's video of this.
You'll see people, people coming up out of the ground in aqua suits, shooting.
You'll see people doing the rope climb like they're in nursery school.
It's quite pathetic, but it's not because they're just defensive measures.
I mean, when you chronicle religionofpeace.com, 34,000, I believe, were at terror attacks since 9-11.
That's all I need to know.
I've read the Quran.
I don't need to know anything else.
No, but you're so right.
If this was a bunch of rednecks with Confederate flags, the media would be all over it.
But you get these people like Will Summers or Doug Saunders up in Canada, and they can't wait to tell you how paranoid you are, how crazy you are.
And then we see this article on Breitbart from Clarion that says, U.S. government agency confirmed in a letter that an investigation into a terror-linked Islamist cult named Muslims of America is ongoing.
The group is known for its Islamic villages in North America, with its Islamberg headquarters receiving the most attention.
This is not an esoteric group.
This is the ATF, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
States that 10 documents from a previous investigation in the MOA must be withheld because the investigation related to the documents that were referred to is still open.
This is not paranoia.
This is well-documented jihadist training.
Absolutely.
There is nothing to be paranoid about when your enemy tells you what they're going to do.
If you ask them, they'll tell you.
Why don't we believe these people?
If you go up to anybody on the street and ask them if they want to kill you and they say yes, you got a problem.
Why do we just dismiss it because they're, oh, they're Muslim.
They don't really mean what they say.
They mean what they say more than anybody.
Well, I think we're at the point now, like with 9-11, for example, a lot of these terrorists worked very hard to pull that off.
And these 9-11 truthers are saying it wasn't you.
And I think the terrorists are going, hey, buddy, buddy, slow it down.
I busted my ass committing that act of terrorists.
Yeah, they want their due credit, you know, in their sick friggin' mind.
They want credit for it because they pulled it off.
That's it.
These liberals, these leftists, they will convolute any sort of logic and reasoning to fit their narrative.
It is sick.
Jihadis are always innocent.
Rednecks are always evil.
Okay, last question.
We're running out of time here.
Why do you guys, I shouldn't say you guys, why do we ride our bikes through Islamberg?
What's the point of it?
What does it accomplish?
Hopefully to raise awareness.
I mean, right now I'm talking to more people than we're at the event.
And in my mind, there should be tens of thousands of people at the event.
Anybody who flies an American flag, who wants liberty for the next generation of Americans, should be there, should be at all 23 of these, should get engaged.
You've got to find that issue that, quote, turns you on, that gets you involved.
And once you become involved, you never look back.
I mean, for me, it was 9-11.
I read all about Islam.
I read the Quran.
I studied my ass off.
I met Pam Geller.
I met Robert Spencer.
I went to CPAC and FDN, the Freedom of Defense Initiative.
And you learn.
And you find out.
You educate yourself to what these people actually are.
Not to break paint with a broad brush.
Yeah, I know like 2% of them are actually not involved in terrorism.
In my mind, a little bigger than that.
A little bigger than 2%.
But we've seen the data and the number of Muslims, especially outside of America, especially 18 to 25 males, who think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified.
Ben Shapiro did a great video about this, and the numbers get alarmingly high.
They get to 60% levels pretty quick.
What was it in America?
It was way higher than you would think.
18 to 25 males, it's like one in four think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified.
Yeah.
And the left can't wait to explain that away.
Imagine if it was evangelical Christians saying that, you know, people should be killed for leaving Christianity in the deep south.
Oh, my God, we'd have riots in the streets.
Exactly.
These motorcycle tours are a way of saying, we're watching you, we got our eye on you, we're aware that you exist, we're not naive.
Real quickly, at the rendezvous point, one of the patriots up there went over and talked to, there were two guys filming and taking license plates, of course, because that's what they do.
They're not stupid.
They know this game.
They love to play it.
They want to see who we are just as badly as we want to see who they are.
And he walked right over to him and asked him flat out, you know, are you Muslim Brotherhood?
He said, no.
Are you Jamaat al-Fuqra?
Yes.
Jamaat al-Fuqra runs the MOA.
It's just a splinter group in America.
If there was one in Canada, which there might be, I don't know, it'd probably be MOC.
That's it.
Wow.
Well, make no bones about it.
That's not paranoia when you say you're with the MOA.
And I'm looking right here, MOA, that's the group that was being investigated.
They called it a jihadist cult.
Doesn't sound very paranoid to me.
Everybody should go out and look at the videos on YouTube.
Galani, the leader of the sect, had a video that got released undercover.
I don't know how it got out, but it got out.
And he tells you right there, this video can't get out, and we're training to take over.
Tells you flat out.
They don't lie to you.
They're implored by their religion to give you a warning first, and then they're rightfully allowed to cut your throat.
Well, we got the warning.
Let's just make sure we don't get our throats cut.
Amen, brother.
Right on, Joff.
Thanks for coming on the show.
You got it, boss.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Fire in the gates of hell.
Hey, folks.
A lot of people, when they see me fight, they go, Gav, you got a beautiful little jab there.
I love your uppercuts.
I love the way you use the body.
I love your left hook.
I love that you hate a right hook, that you're always doing a right cross.
It's badass.
But one of my famous trademark moves is my dancing blocks.
I go up and down like this, and the guy can't get a punch in edgewise because I blow his mind.
And people go, Gav, where'd you learn that from?
Well, his name is Jimmy Smith, and he's from Orlando, Florida.
This is the first fight I ever saw him do his fancy dancing swishy blocks.
Check him out.
So this is the guy he's up against, Tony.
What's his name?
Masuko?
Moscow.
Huge beast of a man.
1-0.
Kind of new to the game.
What a badass.
But he plays progressive.
He's a conservative.
I think you should be a progressive, a liberal, and have a whole new thing that no one's ever thought of.
Multiple genders, trans bathrooms.
There we go.
Jimmy Smith, the liberal opponent.
£198 making his professional debut out of the world.
Can you just pause it here?
Jimmy Smith is the left.
He is liberals.
And what they do is they go, look, I know you think that the family is a good way to go, that Christianity is the backbone of this country.
You're wrong.
I have a whole new thing going.
I have 52 genders.
What do you think of that?
And the old stalwarts, the boring old conservatives go, uh, I don't know how to handle that.
I've never seen the dancing block.
Go, Jimmy.
Don't wear your mouth guard till the very end.
Four rounds, heavyweight.
Okay, gentlemen, this is the four-round heavyweight fight.
We went over the instructions before the bounce, all right?
You guys listen to my commands on the chart.
You understand?
Protect yourself at all times.
Shake hands for not possible.
And the tail of the tape shows an advantage for Tony Moscow.
He's a very big guy.
6'2, 216, 72-inch reach.
Jimmy Smith checking in at 198.
Come on, progressives.
Reinvent the wheel.
Give us a whole new technique that's never been done.
Smash the patriarchy.
Smash traditionalism.
And they're off!
Look at those moves!
Well, from what Jimmy Smith looks like at the beginning of this fight, I think he can...
It's even done.
Come on, Antifa.
Nice overhand.
And okay, you gotta take breaks.
Inevitably, in a fight with traditional conservatism, there's gonna be some breaks.
And what do you do during those breaks?
You nap.
It's not like you're dead.
Oh, she's gonna come to you in a second.
Oh, victory, yeah, basic.
Sort of.
It's not victory if you didn't innovate.
All right, well, this isn't exactly how I thought it would go.
But he's gonna wake up.
There you go.
He's fine.
He's fine.
We should start listening to these college professors and their ideas to reinvent the wheel.
I think they got something.
I think ants blocking is the new fight.
Look at that.
Okay, yeah, you might get one in, and it might be a hell of a bunch.
But besides that, we need to smash the patriarchy with all new things, like totally original.
Don't you want to know how much you stop and fight you?
It's my desire!
It's mad as I am!
It's mad desire!
Lauren, are you there?
I'm here.
How's it going?
It's going great.
Now, I'm surprised to see you're in Australia.
I actually made it here despite the nightmare process of trying to get a visa.
Yes.
Now, there was a lot of back and forth with your visa stuff.
And I have this new pet peeve where people sit at home and they talk about other people who are out doing things and they talk like experts.
And the homesitters were saying, no, no, no, it's actually not Australia's fault.
She applied for the wrong visa, you see.
That's what's going on here.
It's called home lawyering.
Ezra used to say it to me all the time.
He's like, Laura, no matter what you do, do not home lawyer on Twitter.
You are not a lawyer.
You don't know what you're talking about.
So we had hired the best immigration lawyers in the country, and they had applied months and months and months and months in advance for me to get a work visa here, and it just wasn't happening.
There was a barrier at every turn.
It wasn't coming through.
They needed a criminal record check last minute.
They needed all of this stuff that they didn't mention at the beginning.
And it was just being blocked, block, blocked.
So they Said, okay, we need you in the country a little earlier just so that you can get on the right time zone and prepare for your speeches.
So apply for a temporary visa, which almost never gets rejected, so you can get in the country while you wait for your work visa.
And this is what our lawyers told us.
Then I applied for the temporary visa, rejected, despite the fact that I have multiple friends who came here with me and theirs was accepted immediately.
Well, it's also called a travel visa, is it not?
Yeah, just a temporary travel visa.
Those are like the most common one I think you can get.
And for people who don't think that there's shenanigans going on, I got a letter from the New Zealand immigration telling me that I was banned from the country.
And then a month later, after all of the media chaos happened and everyone was like, I can't believe you guys are shutting down free speech, I got another letter from them saying, oh, you know what?
Actually, we were wrong.
We were just kidding.
We were just pranking you.
Yeah, I saw you put those on Twitter and it was bizarre because the first letter was very legal and it said, look, it's not up to us.
It's section 14A4B of the Commonwealth Code.
And then the second letter says, actually, no, that's fine.
It's a different code or something.
They just changed their mind.
And that's what I'm thinking.
I'm like, apparently our laws are just based on the whims of however they feel.
They can just pull up section 307, 308, whatever, and then ban you from a country.
And then if people get mad, oops, let's just erase that law, no problem.
But I am pretty excited because I thought that for a month, I thought I was never going to get to see Habiton.
I thought I was never going to get to see any of the Lord of the Rings set up.
And the nerd inside me just died.
Right.
Well, so you are allowed in New Zealand now?
I am, but we're still having trouble with the work visa there.
And I have a feeling that's going to be the big one.
Also, the mayor there called us far-right extremists and that we were divisive and causing hate and we'd be banned from any council venues, which is where our initial venue was.
So there's still a few troubles in New Zealand, but the fact that I'm in Australia, the fact that the tour is happening despite all of the pushback is the bigger picture here.
And we're still trying for New Zealand as well.
Yeah.
Well, that guy, by the way, has spinach on his teeth.
I don't know if you've ever seen a picture of him, but he needs to go like that.
He needs a toothpick badly.
I think it's worth going back a step here and saying, all right, so what exactly did Lauren, she must have had a flamethrower, she must have gone to a mosque and killed children.
Let's look up what originally happened.
And what originally happened was you went to Luton, a Muslim enclave, and you had a bunch of flyers that said, Allah is gay with rainbows and stuff on them.
And locals said they were offended by that.
That's blasphemy.
That's really the core of your crime, right?
That was my crime.
And what people need to remember is I was banned for offending the LGBT community and offending Muslims.
But my actual ban letter said I was banned for racism.
I don't know if the UK government is just a little slow or if they actually think that Islam is a race.
Maybe they do.
I'm not sure.
But someone needs to go in there with some, actually, and I guess an education hasn't helped them much.
Someone needs to go in there and help define Islam for them.
And then maybe I'll be allowed back in the country when they can figure that out.
Maybe gay is a race too.
I don't know.
Racism in Britain now means something negative about a group.
You could say that snowboarders are stupid and that's racism.
And I always thought that was an absurd thing about Britain, but it's starting to become true in America.
I'm starting to see Americans use the word racism to mean anything.
You know what else is interesting, by the way?
So you said that you put gay and Muslim together.
The left is so bad at this that I'm noticing they do that.
Like I saw this Twitter account called Iman LGBTQ.
And it's a group.
I think I'm even sent this to you in DMs.
But this is a group who is promoting LGBTQ in the Muslim community.
And they even dress in hijabs.
There we go.
They dress in hijabs saying, you know, our extremist Islam includes gays.
And I'm looking at it going, wait a minute, this is what Lauren is banned for, what you're doing right now.
Well, I mean, if they're going to do Islamic pride, then they have to at least add the P to the end of that LGBTQ.
I'm sure you've heard of the LGBTQP movement.
No, I'm not familiar with P. Oh, we need to have pedophile acceptance.
It's just sexuality.
That's already sewed into the Quran.
That's already there in day one.
Exactly.
I also noticed, because the left keeps doing this, so your, I would call it a performance art experiment, was trying to show the intolerance of Islam, not just radical Islam, but Islam.
I think liberals are accidentally walking into the alligator swamp doing the exact same thing.
There's this show now called The Bold Type.
I guess it's about a magazine or something.
We have this Canadian Iranian actress named Nicole Boucheri, and she's playing a queer Muslim feminist in a hijab.
And she's trying to do it to promote, you know, awareness or something.
But Muslims are getting exactly as mad as they did at you in Luton.
So the left is doing your bidding now by accident.
Yes, and I was talking about this.
We just had the giant Pride Parade in Toronto, and it's like a huge deal there.
And I was thinking, if you really wanted to have some fun, if you really wanted to cause a bit of chaos, you could go into kind of the really rough, subsidized housing Islamic areas and pass out some flyers saying there's a big Islamic march on that day and just sit back and watch what happens.
Yeah, there's so much we can do.
Even just dressing up in rainbow hijabs and rainbow burqas is enough to make.
And I love that doing that too, because it shows the left the strange bedfellows they've chosen, these bizarre allies that couldn't wait to get rid of gays.
You'll be the first to go.
I keep yelling at these lefties when they get in bed with ISIS.
It's bizarre.
How's your reception over there going?
Are people happy to see you?
Do they throw feces when you walk down the street?
Have you been peed on yet?
So I showed up here and I was wearing an it's okay-to-be-white t-shirt when I landed in the airport.
And yeah, it's literally like I, it was actually really awkward.
I was sitting on a plane and I picked up the paper and it's got this huge spread of me in that shirt and it's like, alt-right, crazy woman lands in Brisbane.
And I'm sitting there reading it, like looking over my shoulder at the people beside me, making sure they haven't picked up the same paper, folding it, putting it under my seat.
But yeah, it's crazy.
People here are infuriated.
I guess they just don't have the same kind of alt media scene here yet.
The thing is they have the people.
The people here on the ground, I had a little old lady come up to me and say, I love your shirt.
It's a beautiful shirt.
We've got tons of people coming out to our shows, but the media is completely counter to the people, completely out of touch with what the people do.
Just like Canada.
It's like everyone, Britain and all the Commonwealths have the same problem.
They have the media class totally separate from the rest of the country.
Yeah, and it's, oh man, you wouldn't believe the level of slander that I'm getting here.
I don't think I've ever been so lied about in one place.
In New Zealand, there's one lady on Radio Live who said that Stefan and I are Holocaust deniers.
She just made it up on the spot.
She literally, like, she's having a debate with someone and she's like, well, did you know they're Holocaust deniers?
Checkmate.
Well, just throw that in.
Why can't I just make stuff up?
Did you know they advocate for modern lynchings and want to bring back slavery?
They beat puppies.
They beat puppies in their tour show.
I mean, they're not coming into the show, so they can literally just say whatever they want, I suppose.
Well, I'm a little worried about you because it's so, I'm always worried about you, but it's so far off.
I was talking to some of the organizers there that said tens of thousands of Antifa have registered to go and try to prevent these talks.
What kind of numbers are we talking here?
Yeah, I think there's my first speaking event is in Brisbane, and I think there's about 4,000 confirmed for there, or at least that have signed up.
I don't know if they'll actually show up, you know, they're pretty lazy.
I guess it's later in the day.
If it were the morning, they definitely wouldn't be there.
Can't wake up for activism, right?
But yeah, because it's in the evening, there should be a decent amount.
Unlike Milo's, though, our tour venue shouldn't be near any of the apex gang areas, like the African gang housing.
It shouldn't be as violent because the leftists can't just stand out there and like shout at the African gang blocks and say, hey, come out and burn down buildings with us.
Feed them a lie and say, these guys think that Muslims are garbage and Africa sucks.
And they're right there.
Go do what you have to.
They're trying to get you deported.
Exactly.
So we should be a little safer because I think the leftist soyboys at their universities aren't quite as ready to murder us as some of the apex gangs would be.
But there still are like some incredible threats.
There have been some crazy, crazy people here and there, but we've got fantastic security and like the police are on top of that.
But it's like, that's the thing.
That's just the normal life of a conservative now.
That's the normal life of anyone on the right.
You just have to accept that as a legitimate risk if you're going to speak up because we're dealing with people who are so indoctrinated into their ideas and so unwilling to separate with them even when provided with better truth that they're willing to get violent for them.
Yeah.
And it's very sad.
I think it all comes back down to that shirt.
Your shirt said it's okay to be white.
If that's controversial, then it's not okay to be white.
And that's what I think is so great about your tour.
You're not going down there denying the Holocaust and advocating slavery.
You're going down there saying immigration has become contentious in the Western world and there's nothing wrong with being white.
The fact that that is controversial, I think, says everything.
Yeah, and that's actually what some of the headlines said.
They said daring t-shirt, controversial t-shirt, causes chaos with t-shirt.
Oh my goodness, if it causes chaos to say it's okay to be white, then we sure as heck need, we need our own, what would we call it?
Not an NAACP, but a white rights movement.
That's even more controversial now.
Slow that down.
We got to beep that, dude.
Well, Lauren, congratulations on the tour.
I'm so glad.
So are you going to New Zealand or the venue still has you banned?
We'll see.
We'll see.
We're trying.
We've got a bit of time, though.
Well, keep fighting the good fight and daring to say controversial things like white people are not human garbage.
Thanks, Gavin.
I'll see you later.
See ya.
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