Thomas Anderson and Matthew Anderson dismantle Candace Owens' misinformation regarding the Hib vaccine, clarifying that a pediatric nurse practitioner—not a doctor—recommended it and debunking her false claims about sanitation eliminating bacterial infections. They expose how Owens conflates meningitis types, ignoring that NECC deaths involved mold-contaminated steroids, while data shows Hib cases dropped from 20,000 to roughly 40 annually post-vaccination. The hosts refute her Gardasil injury allegations absent from VAERS and criticize the FDA's historical tobacco regulation gaps alongside Ken Paxton's dismissed lawsuit against Pfizer. Ultimately, they argue that untreated meningitis poses far greater risks than rare vaccine side effects like Guillain-Barré syndrome, emphasizing that modern hygiene drives rising allergies rather than immunizations. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome Back to Gish Gallop Girl00:04:36
Okay, hello everybody.
Welcome to another episode of Gish Gallop Girl, the show where, when I was going through my introduction the last time, some of you thought I left out an epic film series that was filmed here in Minnesota, but I am here to tell you that now that I, in fact, left out the Grumpy Old Men movies from my list of mainstream fair that has come from our fine state, because I wanted to save that for now while I link the fact that Grumpy Old Men movies 1 and 2 were both written and directed by Mark David Chapman, who would go on to direct the film adaptation of Daredevil starring Ben Affleck.
A movie where he met his future wife Jennifer Garner, who, after a tumultuous divorce, ran him through a ringer so hard that he took the job as Batman and became one of my favorite iterations, Bat Fleck, who then crashed out over the public reaction so hard that when he was scheduled to come to this fair city in Minneapolis for a Twin Cities con, he went instead to rehab.
And many people missed out on an epic chance to get signatures and selfies, and a lot of people are still angry about that years later, but here we are in a city that still has many great conventions every year, and we use them all as Christmas shopping opportunities in this house.
But if the ice occupation, which is still very much here at the time of this writing, continues, I may have to make other plans for gift giving in this awesome city of Minneapolis, where my name is Thomas Anderson, and I am here with Matthew Anderson.
I almost forgot my name for a minute there.
I got so wrapped up in trying to follow all of it that I.
A lot of shit happens here.
Yeah.
And I can string a lot of things together.
I almost called myself Andrew Jackson for a minute there.
I was like, I don't know where that name would be coming from.
That would be way off.
I know.
Way, way, way, way off.
Okay, so.
Before we get into this episode, I want to take care of a couple of things.
First off, we didn't do a single episode in March, and that is because February is a suck ass shit month.
With only 28 days in it, that meant effectively I missed two to three days of regular pay, as did everybody.
And every year that kind of affects us a little bit.
This year, we're trying to get off some debt so that we can.
You know, qualify credit, et cetera, et cetera, to move into an actual house and get off of this fucking rent cycle.
So, that all said, I just did not have the time in March to do much more than set up a couple of, you know, update episodes, which of course you guys all listened to.
Thank you.
I do see the numbers.
But I don't.
Yeah, he doesn't.
He doesn't give a shit.
But I also don't share it with him.
I care a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
The tiniest possible amount.
If you can pinch your fingers together, And then squeeze them real fucking tight.
It's less than that.
Like, you can maybe get like some really fine oil in there, I guess.
For the amount of shits that he gives.
At any rate, nah.
What I wanted to say was speaking of things that people do give a shit about, people have contacted me here and there over the last year or so and asked about Patreon, especially people that go back and listen to our old episodes where I was like, hey, we have a Patreon.
Contribute if you feel like it.
Well, then I took it down, or rather, I put it on a hiatus.
So I kind of hit it.
I kept the Patreon active, but I hit it.
And so you can do that.
And I really didn't want to fuck with it for a while.
But then somebody who has asked to remain nameless from another podcast that I follow reached out to me.
And we had a back and forth about it.
And what they told me was, you know, they gave me some encouragement to start it back up or to, you know, take it off a hiatus.
Basically, and um, you know, I took that to heart, and hopefully, they're listening to this.
And you know, thank you, friend.
Um, so yeah, uh, we have restarted the Patreon.
Um, it is back at the levels that it was at uh, one dollar, five bucks, and 1050.
I don't know why I went with 1050, it made me laugh, and so that's why I went with that.
Um, but yeah, those are back up.
Um, the channel to the you know.
I talked about my fears with the payouts, the other person, and they gave me a lot of assurances that they backed up with hard data and evidence.
So I was like, okay, cool.
Fears About Patreon Payouts00:09:44
Bet.
We'll put it back up.
So I did that about two weeks ago.
And I still feel pretty good about it.
So Patreon is up if anybody feels like contributing to this program.
You will, at the very least, be helping the production costs, which, thank God, are not much, but are a thing.
That all said, anybody that's been paying remote attention to the news lately about anything involving Candace Owens, you may or may not have heard, but Trump did a Truth Social post earlier today where he went just absolute balls out on Alex Jones, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Candace Owens.
And he called out Alex Jones for the Sandy Hook family lawsuits.
And he called out Candace Owens for the Brigitte Macron bullshit.
And he said that Brigitte Macron is prettier than Candace will ever be.
Damn.
Yeah.
Now, you know, I don't have an opinion either way on that.
And for me, watching these, you know, Chucklefucks fight is just human sized kaiju.
It would be not as scary if Trump was not in the position of power that he's in.
But he is.
So.
He's having meltdowns over the fact that these people don't support him anymore, and I think that's funny and great.
That said, though, guys, anything that you see about someone like Candace Owens or Tucker or anybody not supporting Trump anymore, keep in mind they didn't become better people overnight.
They're not dissing him for the reasons that you would want them to be.
They are dissing him, I guarantee you, because his fuckery, especially with Iran and the Strait of Hormuz, has led to them having less money in their probably many varied stock accounts.
They are not angry at him for the same reasons the rest of us are, no matter what they say.
Remember who these people are.
Do not trust them.
I shouldn't have to say that, but I felt it was necessary.
At any rate.
Today, tonight, rather, it is nighttime here.
We are discussing Candace Owens' 17th episode in her series, A Shot in the Dark.
And this one is all about the hip vaccine.
Candace is going to start us off with a horrifying home story that we kind of have to take at face value, but here we go.
And before we start in on this terrible, terrible, undum person that we cover every episode, I want to make an announcement.
Oh, that was right.
I put it in the scripture so that I didn't fucking forget about the Patreon.
Fair enough.
Yeah, we still will not run ads ever, though.
I don't want to do that.
I put that down there too.
I don't like the idea of running ads.
I don't want to be beholden to some company that we find out later is doing horrifying shit.
And honestly, this is a really niche show, and I don't think we're ever going to get approached for that, but I don't want to run ads.
And even if we hit the ad supported tier on our podcast provider that would allow us to insert them, I don't want to do that.
It would throw off the vibe if all of a sudden we had a.
Raid Shadow Legends in the middle there.
That would be.
Or whatever plays to whatever.
Because they try to tailor them to wherever you are.
So, like, Behind the Bastards had to come out and apologize a bunch of times because the auto ads that played, if you were living in the Pacific Northwest, were advertisements for people to join the Washington State Highway Patrol.
Yeah.
And they apologized for that a bunch of times because they caught a bunch of heat for it.
What I think is funny, though, is the ads that get inserted on the show Better Offline.
Ed Zitron, if he even knows about the ads that are playing on his show, and I would hope that he doesn't because he would probably lap himself to death.
I swear the ads that play on Better Offline are these very AI booster ads.
Now, he.
Hates the way that the AI industry works.
Yeah.
He makes a lot of episodes about how much it sucks, why it sucks, specifically why it's bad, specifically why all the financial shit around it is terrible.
Yeah.
And you hear him go through that, and then it's like, they'll cut to ads, and it's like, have you thought about how AI can help your business?
And he, like, every time, every time I'm like, the first time I heard one of those ads, I was like, is this a bit?
The fuck is this?
And then I realized it was for real, and I was like, oh my God, no.
And then I just kept hearing it.
It's been doing that on his show for over a year now.
I'm sure he has to know about it by now.
I don't know.
I hope he's blissfully unaware.
He's got so much other shit going on.
I hope he is blissfully unaware.
But yeah, he's part of the Cool Zone Media Network, which also means that those ads play on other Cool Zone shows.
And they hate a lot of AI shit.
They are not for any of it.
And yeah, to hear those ads go off about.
Like, or just shitty technology, just shitty, shitty ads.
Or the, a lot of times too, they'll do ads.
The ads are all for podcasts, like other shows, but other completely unrelated shit.
Now that said, I have heard two ads that played on their shows, two ads about other podcasts that I went and listened to that were actually good.
One was called The Superhero Complex.
Okay.
About the.
Seattle superhero scene.
Yeah.
That was actually pretty good.
Another one was the Wall Street Bad Bets podcast, which talked about in detail how much Enron sucked.
They were an energy company in California that really fucked a lot of people over.
Okay.
That was their first season.
The second season was about this guy trying to make a company called Nicola that would run hydrogen powered semi trucks and how they didn't have the technology.
But he lied his ass off to investors for years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, those were enlightening shows.
But I heard about them via ads.
So I'm not going to totally knock them.
But most of the ads are like celebrity gossip bullshit.
Or are you watching this season of The Bachelor?
No.
I've never watched a single one.
I only know these people's names when they do crimes.
See, the only season of The Bachelor that I would ever want to watch.
And it's only because the guy was on Traitors, is the one where the Bachelor realized he was gay during the production of the show and then came out on the show when he needed to pick his Bachelorette.
Nice.
Classy.
That is the only one that I want to watch because I want to sit back and go, how bad were these women that he realized, oh shit, I'm really not straight?
Well, I don't think it's even so much them.
It's like, I want to see the breakdown.
Oh, yeah.
I want to see the facial breakdown of him being like, These are some of the best women they could, these are some of the most gorgeous, most well matched people to me they could possibly find.
Why, why I'm not attract?
Why, why, why I dumb below?
I don't, you know, why you not, you know, and then realize that he likes the production assistants a lot more and they're not ladies.
Yeah, that that might be that that might be enlightening.
Well, their most recent, the most recent one again, I only know about because criminal came up.
The most recent season of The Bachelor was going to involve a woman who had previous domestic violence charges.
Including one that she was caught on video in a bar throwing bar stools at her then husband.
Oh my God.
And yeah, the police were involved, of course.
Yeah, naturally.
I'd hope.
Yeah.
It's just, these are the worst possible people.
Like, I think that's about the only thing I really like about the traitors is that they get all of these dumb shits from all of these other programs that are the worst persons they could possibly be.
And then they wonder why they screw each other over and they have no real friends.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, because none of you.
You're all just terrible.
Yeah, you're all terrible.
You're all terrible, just like this terrible person that we were focused on once again tonight, Candace Owens.
Why Preventative Care Is Flawed00:12:08
As I said, Candace is going to start us off with a horrifying home story.
But all of that said, on with the program.
Let me just make sure my volume is on.
It is not.
That would have been slightly embarrassing.
Okay, and here we go.
All right, guys, welcome to another episode of A Shot in the Dark.
Today, we are going to be talking about the HIV vaccine.
You might call it the HIV vaccine, or you might call it by its actual name if you are better at pronunciating these medical terms than I am.
But it's Haemophilus influenza.
There we go.
Haemophilus influenza.
And I've looked it up on several different websites, and everybody pronounces it differently depending on whether you're in the UK or whether you're in America.
But we're going to get into this because this is one that we've gotten a lot of questions about.
And I want to say right at the top that I have an amazing pediatrician.
I think I've mentioned it a few times that will come to the house and we don't see her often because the kids are really never sick.
But right because I have a newborn right now, we will have her come over and weigh him, make sure everything's on track.
And she had asked me because people were coming to her talking about my show.
And I guess apparently before I had ever even reached out to her and tried to get her as my pediatrician, as a concierge, a concierge pediatrician is as they call it, she said to me that people were coming to her talking about my show.
And she then went out and watched the show Shot in the Dark, and she agreed with everything that she was hearing.
Okay, so Candace will discuss her medical professional here a bit more in a little while, but right off the top, this is not a doctor.
No.
I did some deep dives into the Nashville scene of this type of medical care, and I shot out some emails.
Due to HIPAA laws, of course, I had to be careful with my questions, not to ask anything too identifying of them, but I was able to narrow down what practice and who this is.
Yeah, this is a certified pediatric nurse practitioner.
She answers to a doctor and has them on call for things out of her reach, but she is not a doctor.
Regardless, if she said that the series was good and everything up to this point, I would caution parents in the Nashville metro area to be careful on who you hire for your kids' care.
I questioned whether or not I wanted to put their information out to the world, and I have chosen to share it.
The link is the first one in the link stack.
I want parents and people that know parents in the Nashville, Tennessee area to know who this is and make choices for themselves.
This person has two offices they operate out of in the metro.
Both links are included in the stack.
It's Music City Pediatric Care.
Wasn't Music City the name of the shop that used to be in the Mall of America that was an instrument shop?
Could have been.
I don't know.
Okay.
I remember they.
There was one that somebody had named after Prince.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm thinking of that one.
The Prince one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm thinking of the Prince one.
Yeah.
Well, there is a monthly fee to have this woman as your medical provider on top of whatever insurance you may be carrying because they don't take insurance.
But also, in the FAQ, there are a few questions about insurance.
To really boil it down, her office does not accept insurance.
They do recommend that patients carry insurance, though, for emergency room visits, labs, medicines, and so on.
They claim to have an on-call telemedicine ability, and they claim that patients can schedule appointments anytime with more flexibility than traditional doctor's offices because they have a hard cap on how many patients they will serve.
Since the medical practice only consists of the one NP, they have to limit their scope on patients.
But they claim the membership consists of unlimited visits and that patients can be seen up until the age of 21 in one area and up to 18 in another.
So, who the fuck can say for sure?
For some families, this kind of arrangement might work, but at the cost of having three kids previously and now four kids, the monthly cost on Candace's family, based on averages from the site, is about $600 per month, plus whatever insurance they're carrying.
Based on the same averages, This NP is making at the low end of their membership cap $45,000 per month.
Christ.
Up to $60,000 at the high end per month.
No wonder why they can afford to have a limited number of patients.
Yeah.
That comes out to a range of $540,000 to $900,000 per year.
That I'm in the wrong business, clearly.
So, yeah, I think I might be in the wrong business.
Do I even need a medical license for this?
No, you just have to be a certified pediatric nurse practitioner, which is a lot of people will defend them.
A lot of people will say they are close to doctors, they're close enough that they can do things, and that is true.
Yeah, but yeah, they are not doctors.
No, and that will be a little more pertinent in a little while.
Okay, yeah.
So, yeah, I'm in the wrong fucking business.
So, yeah, just keep all of this in mind that Candace refers to this woman as a doctor, and she is not.
It took more digging, but I found the info on the doctor that the NP works with, and he is not listed on the website for her practice, but he is listed as the co owner on several other sites and has a 5.0 rating with only three reviews on health grades.
Uh huh.
The CPNP lady and her practice have no rating or listing on health grades, but as I understand it, most concierge places do not.
What is weird about her business partner is that his first name and the name he goes by as a doctor, mind you, are different.
He uses his first name and his middle name interchangeably on different sites.
It's really fucking weird.
Anyway, I don't think this kind of medical arrangement is a good thing, and as we go on, you'll hear more as to why that is, given what I have already said.
Let's continue.
We're definitely in the wrong professions.
Yeah.
Candace is going to start out saying some actual true shit about meningitis, followed by describing a meme to us all.
Enjoy.
And she wanted to know whether or not I had gotten to the HIV vaccine.
And the reason was because she says it's the only one that she recommends that parents get.
And I thought that is incredibly interesting.
Children, no, I had not yet looked into it.
I had not yet researched it.
It wasn't on my radar at the time that her and I had this discussion.
And people were.
Coming at us and saying, What about meningitis?
This and that.
So I knew that this was one that we had to spend some time paying extra special attention to.
Because, first and foremost, when you hear the word meningitis, absolutely terrifying.
It is terrifying.
It is something that you should be fearful of.
I mean, as a bacteria, whether it's viral meningitis, I mean, it's absolutely terrifying because you're here one day and you're gone the next.
And so when you hear that word, especially associated with an infant, yeah, that's going to ring some alarms.
You're going to say, What can I possibly do to prevent it?
This.
First of all, before we jump into HIV or the HIV vaccine, I wanted to show you this meme that came across online.
I thought that it is very indicative of the medical world that we live in today.
Here it is.
The meme is a doctor with his patient, and he says, Your disease is caused by your lifestyle.
And she says back, So, should I change my lifestyle?
And he says, No, not at all.
Here's a pill.
I just thought that that is so accurate, especially when it comes to American society where we just think a pill can treat everything.
It's Forget the idea that maybe you should lose some weight because you're pre-diabetic.
Just know that we have wonderful pills that we can subscribe you and medicine that we can give you once you are full-blown to diabetic.
Okay, so I will admit, there was a time in my life many years ago where I was this kind of an asshole.
I grew out of it after I left my conservative parents' home and started meeting other adult humans that were in various degrees of health.
Whatever a person's body shape, size, diet, or whatever was, it wasn't always something they were in control of because things like an overactive thyroid, for example, are not forgiving to any kind of variance in diet or activity.
And most people don't have the resources of money and time to live in a perfect state of being.
So, when a doctor proposes a pill and they have tried everything else, or watched people they know with similar paths struggle, they might be inclined to try that medication, be it a brain med or diabetes med or whatever else, just to get their bodies doing what they need.
It is a real shit pickle for a lot of working adults beyond the vanity of life in this world.
Just being healthy is a fucking struggle that a lot of people don't have the time or the energy to maintain since they have to work most of their waking hours just to survive.
I am sure this is true for many people, but I don't know anyone personally that ever went to a doctor's office and got prescribed a medication without first trying to make it in life without one.
Anyway, there is more.
Candace will continue to body shame people in this next clip, and you have been warned.
I think about this meme, obviously, in the context that we always go back to here when it comes to COVID, when it came to all the COVID scaries and people who had spent their entire lives avoiding their health, right?
Not.
Being concerned whatsoever, not trying to work out, I don't know, maybe take some vitamins, pay attention to their body's needs, go outside, get some sun.
People that were living like hobbits, people that are clinically obese, and somehow they felt that it was appropriate for them to lecture us if they went out and got the vaccine about how important it was for us to do our part.
Vaccines save lives.
I thought that that was incredible.
I thought the world was upside down when you had people who were suffering from obesity that were lecturing people that were in tremendous shape about health.
Really, now that you reflect on it, think about how bizarre that is that people thought you could roll up your sleeves and get an injection and become healthy.
That was all it took.
I'm now healthy because I'm getting a vaccine.
That's crazy.
It would be crazy if it were the case.
But the point of getting the COVID vaccine was not to get a magic bullet that would take all of your problems away.
And I doubt very many people on any form of media actually thought that would be the case.
No.
People were saying to get the vaccine to not get a commonly spread and deadly illness, and to get the vaccine so that you could hopefully resume your normal life.
Candace is misrepresenting facts here and providing no proof that things were like that.
We were living in Florida during Maine COVID, and I can tell you that even the most ill educated people I knew didn't think the COVID vaccine was going to cure all of their ills.
It was widely understood that it would be the most effective thing you could do against catching the virus, which would be a solid protection against spreading the virus to others.
Ugh, next.
And it is something that really leads me to the question of just the entire idea and the science behind prophylactics in general.
What are we talking about when we say prophylactics?
Okay, we're talking about preventative care.
We're talking about vaccines fall into that category.
The Science of Vitamins Explained00:05:59
You could also say vitamins, which I think is a little bit separate.
But when you're talking about vaccines, essentially what they're saying to you is, you don't have to worry.
We're going to treat this prophylactically.
You're going to get an injection, and then you don't have to worry about this disease ever again, I guess is how we're supposed to feel about it.
As long as you Come in for your booster, you're going to be totally fine.
And we know, obviously, now that we have examined enough of these inserts, that not even the vaccine manufacturers promise you that, but that's supposed to be how you feel.
You're supposed to leave and feel alleviated of the stress and of this burden because you're never going to get this disease that you were probably never going to get, anyways, as we have learned again on past vaccine episodes.
And I always say to people, how much do you believe in prophylactics?
How much do you believe in prophylactic care?
Okay, so vitamins are not a prophylaxis by definition.
An exception to this is the vitamin K shot, and we discussed that one at length before.
Go back and listen to that episode if you need a refresher on it.
But overall, vitamins are generally considered a micronutrient.
But I found an article in the National Library of Medicine on the National Institutes of Health website, link provided, of course, that is going to give us a rundown of the term vitamin and their function.
From the section labeled historical background, we get the following.
The scientific investigation of vitamins began with the work of Nikolai Lunen and Gustav van Boeunga, who conducted animal studies demonstrating that life cannot be sustained by the intake of proteins, fats, carbohydrates, salts, and water alone.
By contrast, administering distinct foods such as milk or egg yolk was sufficient to maintain life, so they postulated that there were unknown factors in milk that were essential for life.
Dutch physician Christian.
Jekman and his student and successor, Gerrit Grins, were the first to demonstrate that a condition of chicken polyneuritis similar to beriberi was not caused by a bacterial infection but by the absence of an unknown dietary factor, regardless of macronutrient content.
This observation was later emphasized by Frederick Gowland Hopkins, who, in a lecture delivered in London in 1906, established for the first time a connection between nutritional factors.
And the etiology of diseases such as scurvy and rickets, conditions later recognized as avitaminoses.
In 1912, he published results from feeding experiments, thereby illustrating the importance of, quote, accessory factors in normal dietaries, end quote.
In 1929, Hopkins and Ajakman were awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for their contributions to vitamin research.
The history of the term vitamin dates back to Casimir Funk.
In 1912, who wanted to refer to deficiency substances that are organic bases as vitamins?
Funk based his hypothesis on the assumption that he had found a substance that was effective against beriberi and that was chemically an amine.
That's why the term vitamines originally implied that these substances were both essential for life, vital.
So there you go, British.
You call it vitamins, it's vitamins.
Toll vitamins, okay, vital and thought to be amines, vitamins.
However, he was wrong in both aspects.
The substance was not effective against beriberi and it was not an amine.
Instead, he had discovered nicotinic acid, which was later proved to be active against pellagra.
It became clear as vitamins were progressively isolated and chemically characterized that not all vitamins are amines.
For example, vitamin C is an oxidized sugar, and vitamin D refers to a collective term of secosteroids.
Vitamins were initially classified according to their solubility.
Following the discovery that milk contains more than one essential nutrient, designated as vitamin A, lipid soluble and primarily found in cream, and vitamin B, water soluble and found in whey.
As research progressed, it became evident that vitamin B comprises multiple chemically and physiologically distinct compounds.
Prior to their chemical identification, these compounds were given systematic alphanumeric names, B1, B2, and so on, which are still in use today.
Although the term vitamins was introduced more than a century ago, there is still no clear and generally accepted definition of what precisely characterizes them or determines which compounds qualify as vitamins.
Consequently, several substances once regarded as vitamins, such as salicylic acid, inesotol, adenine, and certain fatty acids, are no longer classified as such, whereas the status of others, for example, Choline remains controversial.
These ambiguities raise questions about the clarity and consistency of existing definitions.
While understanding of the biochemical and physiological role of vitamins has advanced considerably over the decades, some core elements of their characterization are still based on a traditional understanding of nutrition in general and vitamins in particular.
The aim of this work is to further develop the existing criteria and, where necessary, To specify them in order to derive a proposal for discussion for a contemporary definition of the term vitamins.
Uganda Yellow Fever Vaccine Rules00:14:59
It goes on to provide several examples from literature as to the definition of vitamins, but in none of these definitions does it refer to them as a prophylaxis.
The most basic things about vitamins are that they have a measurable effect and they come from consumable matter, usually food.
Taking them does not in itself prevent any type of disease.
But having a robust diet of them will likely keep health conditions that result from vitamin deficiency away.
I encourage anyone interested to read more in the link provided.
Next up, Candace is going to tell us all, and for perspective, her pay pigs from back in the day this was put on Daily Wire Plus, she's going to tell all of us about the yellow fever vaccine.
When it comes to if you actually did meet up with this disease.
So I'll give you an example, right?
To go to Africa, you are required, certain parts of Africa, Uganda, you are required to get the yellow fever vaccine.
Okay, if you could only pick one, the doctor said we're either going to send you with this vaccine, right?
We're going to give you an injection and you're going to be good.
Trust us, it's going to be fine.
Or we can give you a pill that will treat yellow fever.
I think that's hydroxychloroquine.
I believe it's the chloroquine that is in the branches that they discovered.
Which would you rather have?
Well, if you're me, I take the pill, right?
The event that I get it, I know that I'm confident that this treats it.
We've known this, this science has been settled for years.
I'm not really going to feel confident that some vaccine that I got a long time ago is going to.
Kick in when the time comes and take care of me when I have yellow fever.
So, just an ongoing question I always have in my head.
And I have some ongoing answers.
Okay, so first, do you think, based on what she just said, that Candace Owens has been to Uganda?
No.
Do you think she took the vaccine or risked getting yellow fever, which would have meant taking a medication later on, as she says right here in the clip?
Well, given the fact that I don't think she went, I'm going to say no, she didn't get the vaccine for it.
First, Candace Owens has been to Uganda.
Oh, she has.
She didn't get the vaccine, did she?
Let me finish.
Okay.
And the example about being given a choice of whether or not to take the yellow fever vaccine was false.
I am including links to the U.S. State Department travel page as well as Trevisa.com.
Which says the following from their FAQ about Uganda, which I will note is backed up in every other source I could find about this from all over.
Anyway, it says one of the mandatory health requirements is proof of yellow fever vaccination for all travelers older than one year.
You must upload a digital copy of your yellow fever vaccination certificate when applying for your e visa.
A yellow fever vaccine can take up to 10 days to become effective after it is administered, so you may be refused entry if your vaccination date is too close to your arrival in Uganda.
And from the State Department travel page, also linked under the section marked Vaccinations, we get Yellow Fever.
All travelers to Uganda must have a valid yellow fever immunization card.
It's a simple statement but very clear on the goal.
That is due in part to the following, which is from the CDC, the US based Centers for Disease Control, and this is from April 25th, 2022.
On the 6th of March, 2022, the World Health Organization received notification from the Uganda Ministry of Health of four suspected cases of yellow fever.
As of the 25th of April, 2022, a total of seven suspected cases tested positive for yellow fever antibodies.
By plaque reduction neutralization tests.
However, further investigations identified only one laboratory confirmed case of yellow fever reported from Wakiso District Central Region.
The Ministry of Health declared an outbreak and a rapid response team was deployed to the affected districts.
Due to the potential of epidemic spread in Uganda and the risk of spread to neighboring countries, the World Health Organization assesses the risk to be high at the national and regional levels.
On 6th March 2022, the Uganda Ministry of Health Notified WHO of four suspected yellow fever cases with specimens collected between the 2nd of January and the 18th of February 2022, which tested positive for yellow fever antibodies by enzyme linked immunoabsorbent assay, ELISA, and by plaque reduction neutralization test, PRNT, or PRINT,
at the Uganda Virus Research Institute, the UVRI.
As of 25th of March 2022, three additional samples with specimens collected between 1 to 13 October 2022.
Tested positive for antibodies by PRNT at the UVRI.
All the seven suspected cases tested negative by polymerase chain reaction.
Cases presented with symptoms including fever, vomiting, nausea, diarrhea, intense fatigue, anorexia, abdominal pain, chest pain, muscle pain, headache, and sore throat.
None of the cases presented with severe yellow fever symptoms of acute jaundice.
The majority of the suspected cases were females.
With an age range between 15 to 57 years.
Five were reported from Wikiso District and one each from Masaka and Kasisi districts.
Of the seven suspected cases, epidemiological investigations were conducted for six cases and investigation is pending on one case.
As of 25th of April 2022, five of the six cases investigated had a recent history of vaccination and were consequently discarded in the absence of evidence suggesting vaccination failure, and one case reported from Wikiso District was confirmed as yellow fever.
Yellow fever is an epidemic prone mosquito borne vaccine preventable disease caused by an arbovirus transmitted to humans by the bites of infected Aedes and Haemogogogus mosquitoes.
Once contracted, the yellow fever virus incubates in the body for three to six days.
The majority of infections are asymptomatic, but when symptoms occur, the most common are fever, muscle pain with prominent backache, headache, loss of appetite, and nausea or vomiting.
In most cases, symptoms disappear after three to four days.
A small proportion of patients, however, can have more severe symptoms of high grade fever, abdominal pain with vomiting, jaundice, and dark urine caused by acute liver and kidney failure.
Death could occur within 7 to 10 days in about half of the patients with severe symptoms.
There is currently no specific antiviral drug for yellow fever, but early supportive treatment, such as specific care to treat dehydration, fever, and liver and kidney failure, could improve survival rates.
40 countries globally, 27 in Africa and 13 in Central and South America, are classified as high risk for yellow fever.
Since September 2021, 13 countries in the World Health Organization African region have reported probable and confirmed yellow fever cases and outbreaks, including an ongoing outbreak under close investigation in neighboring Kenya.
These outbreaks are occurring in large geographic areas of the western, central, and eastern regions of Africa.
They have affected areas that have previously conducted large scale mass vaccination campaigns, but with persistent and growing gaps in immunity due to lack of sustained population immunity through routine immunization andor secondary to population movements, such as newcomers without a history of vaccination.
These reports indicate a resurgence and intensified transmission of the yellow fever virus.
After the Uganda Ministry of Health declared a yellow fever outbreak in the country, they activated the Public Health Emergency Operations Center.
They are also deploying a rapid response team to affected districts where all cases were reported to determine the extent of the outbreak, identify the at risk population, conduct a risk assessment, initiate risk communication and community engagement activities, and implement integrated vector control measures.
Yellow fever vaccine has not been introduced into the Uganda routine immunization schedule.
However, the country has an imminent plan to introduce it mid 2022, followed by phased mass vaccination campaigns.
Pending the evolution of the situation and response planning, a request may be submitted to the International Coordinating Group on Vaccine Provision for Preventative Yellow Fever Vaccination in areas as indicated by ongoing investigations.
Now, as we know, as we know now, of course, they would go on to make yellow fever vaccination a requirement for travelers, even those just passing through.
The report goes on to say Uganda is endemic for yellow fever and is classified. As a high risk country in the Eliminate Yellow Fever Epidemic Strategy or EYE.
I love how these people just put that shit together.
It's great.
The country has a history of outbreaks reported in 2020 in Bulisa, Maraca, and Moyo districts, 2019 in Masaka and Koboko districts, 2016 in Masaka, Rukungiri, and Kalangala districts, and in 2010 when 10 districts were affected in northern Uganda.
The confirmed case is reported from Wakiso District, close to the Greater Kampala Metropolitan Area.
The district also includes Entebbe, where the international airport is located.
Uganda has not introduced the yellow fever vaccine into routine immunization, and the estimated overall population immunity is low, at 4.2%, and attributable to past reactive vaccination activities supported by ICG in focal districts including Gyombe, Moyo, Bolisa, Maraca, Koboko, Masaka, and Also, Kaboko again.
In limited scope in the Greater Kampala area in 2017, Masaka, Rukengiri, and Kalingala districts in 2016.
Epidemic spread of yellow fever is a risk in Uganda as there could be onward amplification if the virus is introduced in a crowded urban area that are known hubs for travel.
There is the risk for further amplification and international spread because of frequent population movements, such as between Uganda, Democratic Republic of Congo, and South Sudan, coupled with the low population immunity in some neighboring countries.
The recurrent outbreaks indicate the ongoing risk of zoonotic spillover of yellow fever and risk for disease amplification in both rural and densely settled urban areas in the largely unimmunizized population.
Despite the yellow fever vaccine being highly effective, 99% effective within 30 days of vaccination, the risk of breakthrough cases exists.
These cases should be investigated to identify and address possible causes of vaccine failure.
Considering the above described scenario, the risk is assessed as high at the national and regional levels and low at the global level.
The World Health Organization continues to monitor the epidemiological situation and review the risk assessment based on the latest available information.
Finally, the report ends with surveillance.
The World Health Organization recommends close monitoring of the situation with active cross border coordination and information sharing due to the possibility of cases in neighboring countries, the presence of a yellow fever outbreak in neighboring Kenya, and the risk of onward spread.
Enhanced surveillance with investigation and laboratory testing of suspect cases is also recommended.
Vaccination is the primary means for prevention and control of yellow fever.
Completion of the nationwide population protection through vaccination will help avert the risk of future outbreaks.
The World Health Organization supports the plan of the Uganda Ministry of Health to introduce the yellow fever vaccine into the national routine immunization schedule, as well as the following implementation of phased mass vaccination campaigns.
In urban centers, targeted vector control measures are also helpful to interrupt transmission.
As a general precaution, the World Health Organization recommends avoidance of mosquito bites, including the use of repellents and insecticide-treated mosquito nets.
The highest risk for transmission of yellow fever virus is during the day and early evening.
The World Health Organization encourages its member states to take all actions necessary to keep travelers well informed of risks and preventive measures, including vaccination.
Travelers should be made aware of yellow fever symptoms and signs and instructed to rapidly seek medical advice if preventing signs and symptoms suggestive of yellow fever infection.
Infected returning travelers may pose a risk for the establishment of local cycles of yellow fever transmission in areas where a competent vector is present.
The World Health Organization advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on Uganda.
Yellow fever vaccination is required by national authorities for international travelers over one year of age entering Uganda.
In accordance with the IHR 2005 Third Edition, the International Certificate of Vaccination Against Yellow Fever becomes valid 10 days after vaccination.
And the validity extends throughout the life of the person vaccinated.
A single dose of WHO approved yellow fever vaccine is sufficient to confer sustained immunity and lifelong protection against yellow fever disease.
A booster dose of the vaccine is not needed and is not required of international travelers as a condition of entry.
They just need the primary in order to get into the country.
Just the one.
And of course, that link is provided in the link stack.
So, given everything we have just covered, Candace went to Uganda and that absolutely required her to get the yellow fever vaccine.
Yeah.
The authorities there do not fuck around with this shit.
There is no drug one can take after a yellow fever infection has set in.
You just have to ride it out and hopefully not fucking die of liver failure or kidney failure.
It spreads easily, and the obvious threat that someone could catch it there, be in country for a few days, and then bring it home and accidentally spread it because the infection can take several days to show up?
I would say that Uganda did an admirable job of seeing the issue early and getting on top of it.
Meningitis Deaths and Vaccine Myths00:10:41
Candace, lying about this very obvious and easily searchable vaccine requirement, shows how much she really thinks or knows about her pay pigs being able to break from her version of events and finding the truth for themselves.
Fucking absurd.
Moving on, I want to remind everyone that she was talking about vitamins being a prophylaxis against disease and how they could protect against things like yellow fever, which they almost certainly do not.
But wait, it gets worse.
Because it's almost impossible to be able to discern whether or not the prophylactic is the reason that you didn't get it in the first place, right?
So just because you say, like, oh, I've never gotten measles because I had the vaccine.
Well, how do you know it's because you had the vaccine?
Maybe you just never got measles.
Maybe because it wasn't a big deal even when we had measles.
Maybe you never got rubella because it wasn't actually, there weren't a ton of cases of rubella to begin with.
Maybe you never died of rubella because you weren't supposed to die.
So this is ghoulish, especially in light of recent events, such as the mass spread of measles in states that happen to swing hard for Trump, like Oklahoma and South Carolina.
This is the kind of thinking that led people to not getting vaccinated.
That whole, if it's meant for me, then I'll get it regardless, or the dumber.
If it's my time or my kids' time, then it'll happen.
A lot of parents have fucked around and found out, and there is simply no telling how the current caseload of measles cases is going to play out.
Death is terrible, but we have discussed the many things the MMR vaccine prevents beyond the obvious, and long term or lifelong damage from getting measles is among those things.
Candace, I'll say it as often as I feel I need to, gets to live in a world of luxury.
Her kids can be non vaccinated for a time because the odds of them interacting with the common rabble is low in their rich kid bubble.
But that protection from life itself rapidly diminishes as they get older and get into the world.
I would not be shocked if in future years it comes out that she actually vaxxed the kids.
But that will probably have to wait until one of their tell all books.
Candace is now going to say some things that are actually true and have a basis in reality.
She twists it, of course, but here.
Again, going back to COVID, even when it is obviously an utter failure, talking about vaccines, like when they say to you, if you get the vaccine, you will not get COVID, they were saying this.
Trust me, go back.
The news was telling you, oh, you just get this vaccine, you're not going to get COVID.
Then when you got COVID, they said, okay, but it's not going to be that bad.
Oh, what a very specific prophylactic.
It's just not going to be that bad.
Bad.
So they'll say to you, Oh, what about this guy?
He got the vaccine.
He's now been hospitalized with COVID because he's 300 pounds and anything he gets actually could hospitalize him.
That's going to one of the haphazards of being, you know, 350 pounds.
And then they say, Oh, but he didn't die.
So the prophylactic was so specific that it didn't stop you from getting the disease.
It didn't stop you from becoming deathly ill from the disease.
But as long as you didn't die, we can count this as a success.
It's insanity.
I really think that if you pause and you think about it, it's absolute insanity.
There's no accounting for it.
Again, they control every metric of success and they tell you that it's an astounding success as long as less people died of something.
And that doesn't really seem reasonable to me, at least.
Okay, so I looked into this and she is right that people in government, including President Joe Biden, at the time of the COVID vaccines being fully rolled out, people were saying that if you got the vaccine, you would not get or transmit COVID.
They did amend it later, of course.
Saying that if you got it, it would not be as bad as a full blown infection.
And there were cases of obese and morbidly obese persons being hospitalized with COVID infections.
So all of that is based in reality.
That said, I and a lot of people I know and have interacted with have gotten COVID post vaccine and post booster shots.
In no case were I or the people I have known very sick for very long.
Compared to the symptoms people had with full blown COVID, I and others have walked away damn near unaffected.
Sickness is still sickness, but not dying from a plague that killed a million plus Americans is pretty fucking awesome.
I eat well and get a lot of exercise by way of my line of work, but COVID would have taken a toll on me if I got it in a full blown state.
I have never been able to afford to take two weeks off to quarantine myself from anything, but since I am vaccinated, I have at most had symptoms that kept me home for three days maximum.
I sweated a lot the first time and coughed a bunch during the second time.
I lost the fine tune of my senses of smell and taste the second time, but it came back faster than my friends that did get full blown COVID and didn't get their senses of taste or smell back for almost a year.
So, yeah, I'm grateful that I got vaxxed and boosted and will continue to do so.
Now, Candace is going to resume telling us about her nurse practitioner that visited her mansion for a house call.
Again, this is not a pediatrician, this is a certified pediatric nurse practitioner.
And we are discussing the HIB vaccine, which is to prevent meningitis.
But as I said, this was one that the pediatrician said that she recommended.
And the reason why she said she recommended it and why she said, I'm really interested to see your episode and see what you dig up was because of the speed at which it could travel through your body if you got meningitis.
And the only person that, and I actually shouldn't say a person that I know, I should say a person that I know of who has ever died of meningitis.
I was dating somebody in college, and the person that was living next door to him in the dorm died of meningitis.
He went to sleep, he had a stiff neck, and he never woke up again.
Very scary.
But.
Yeah, very scary, but I went looking down several rabbit holes in this one.
What I was able to find regarding this specific kind of meningitis death at the University of Rhode Island during the period of 2007 to 2015 was exactly nothing.
Yeah.
Where any student, regardless of any other factors, died from meningitis there.
Meningitis deaths are easier than others to get statistics on due to how communicable it is and how scary it can be if not caught and treated.
And I'm confident in saying that this did not happen at URI.
That being said, there were meningitis deaths and hospitalizations during this period there and nearby in Providence.
And this is where I got lost by the shiny object, the fairy lights, if you will.
The meningitis deaths and injuries in this period were from a batch of botched steroids that were manufactured by a company known as NECC, which stands for New England Compounding Center, which was a compounding pharmacy.
That manufactured a botched steroid that resulted in the deaths of 64 to 100 people across 23 states and injured 689 more than we know of, but the damage seems to be ongoing.
So far, over 400 lawsuits have been filed against NECC over this batch.
I say keep them coming.
Those of you that are unaware, this particular steroid was sold and administered as an injection, typically given at a clinic or other medical office by a practitioner.
It is a pain medication administered by epidural, so it is shot directly into the spine and nerves.
In this case, the lot itself was infected, and this medicine goes right to the cerebrospinal column.
So they were shooting a bacteria loaded medicine directly into the area where it would travel to do the most damage.
Unfortunately, this is not the type of meningitis that a vaccine would hold at bay.
This was a rare condition, but the patients.
Tested afterward, often had either Aspergillus fumigatus or Xerohillum rostratum, also known as a type of black mold.
Ah, yeah.
So they were just getting mold injected into their spines.
Yeah, well, the mold was living on the medicine, it was living on the steroid.
And yeah, when you get that injected, it is so much worse when it's bad.
I think I figured out where Resident Evil 7 got its idea for its variant of the T-virus.
Yeah.
Because the.
I don't fucking.
For anybody who's listening to this that's played Resident Evil 7, I played exactly two hours of it and lost interest pretty immediately.
So I didn't complete it.
So I don't.
Completely remember it, but I do remember that the hillbilly family that you end up going into the house of, they're keeping women in their basement and injecting them with this black mold variant of the T virus.
And the death reports that you find from the one that's called Father is they stiffened at the spine and were non responsive afterwards, and so he just wrote them off as dead.
Well, yeah.
That tells me where they got that idea of.
That, I guess.
I mean, it very well could have been.
God, they were shooting black mold into their spines.
That just.
I'm linking to the Wikipedia write up on this if anyone wants more information on how this all happened and how it is going.
But basically, when these bacteria were introduced directly into the spines of these patients, everything unraveled quickly and it couldn't be stopped in a lot of the cases.
So while I do not have any evidence that this happened with the student at the college she attended at URI, There is evidence that it did happen and could very well have happened when the young man was away from school.
In either case, and in any of the cases it happened in, a vaccine would not have prevented this form of meningitis.
As with most things, the vaccine is set up to protect against the most commonly caught forms of meningitis.
Don't Engage With Candace Owens00:02:33
Candace, of course, does not know or care to know the difference between them.
He had the meningitis vaccine.
Now they're going to say, okay, well, he was protected against this strand of meningitis, but not this strand.
The vaccine doesn't cover every single strand.
Again, more things that we could never confirm or deny, right?
When someone says, oh, well, this is only supposed to protect you against this strain and not that, and that's why you still got sick, it still allows Big Pharma to kind of pretend that everything that they created was a success and allows them to never have to account for any of the failures that they've had in the past.
And this is why we do this because of this kind of noise she makes.
This is the real threat of the grift.
She is not willing to understand the nuance of medicine and is projecting that ignorant and vile stance onto her paypegs.
These shows were done for the most compromised persons in her influence the ones paying for a Daily Wire membership, but also now the ones paying an absurd amount of money for a Club Candace membership 17 bucks a month.
God.
Yeah.
These are the cooked ones, the ones that flood timelines of relatives, friends, co workers with her drivel or their version of it.
Her content has a direct pathway of sucking people in with her celebrity takes that run on TikTok and Instagram and Facebook, Twitter, etc.
People start to trust the person that they agree with.
She shows up in their feed more often, and it keeps going if they aren't paying attention.
But even if they push back beyond just blocking and moving on, the algorithms are set to feed what you engage with, specifically what you hate.
Regardless of whether or not you agree.
So her numbers rise with engagement and she gets more exposure.
Engaging with her content in any way beyond a block is as much of an algorithm boost as it is an ego boost for her and her most cooked followers because it means, on some level, that you are saying that they are worthy of your time and effort.
I only engage with her content in limited direct ways on my alt accounts.
I encourage you all to do the same if you must engage with it at all.
Candace will now read from a CDC webpage about Hib.
But she doesn't say which one, and this is important.
I did find the one, and it is in the link stack, but you should all know that there are several that I had to go through to get there, and they branch off on sections tagged to learn more about whatever, where they go into more detail.
I did manage to find the string of ones she uses, but it was definitely informed luck.
How Hib Bacteria Spreads Quickly00:09:22
Anyway, Candace will conflate the symptoms and causes of this with COVID.
The horse she loves to beat to death.
And I'm going to let it play through.
This is a long clip.
Strap in.
So, before we get into the vaccine insert, and I will tell you guys what I dug up, we're just going to actually jump right into the CDC websites that we understand what HIV even is.
So, this is again right from the CDC website.
It reads Haemophilus influenza disease is a name for any infection that is caused by bacteria called H influenza.
Now, right away, what jumps out at me, just in that first sentence, if you have been following this series, and especially if you remember the first episode where I talked about a lot of Big Pharma's tricks, and I said to you, a lot of times Big Pharma will take credit for what basic sanitation took care of, right?
The ability for us to wash our hands, to be able to flush a toilet, to be able to go to a sink, and they will contrast that with an America where people were putting their waste, their human waste, onto the streets and walking.
Around and you can imagine in that area, in that era, pardon me, that there was tons of bacterial infection.
People were dying from bacteria.
But when I see something that says bacteria, I instantly think okay, there are a lot of things that you can do to prevent bacteria from spreading within your own home, right?
That's just my first instinct when I see the word bacteria.
It goes on to read there are six distinct types of H influenza named A through F, as well as H influenza that are classified as non typeable.
The one that people are most familiar with is, of course, H influenza type B.
These bacteria live in people's nose and throat and usually cause no harm.
However, the bacteria can sometimes move to other parts of the body and cause infection.
Experts do not know how long it takes after H influenza enters a person's body for someone to get sick.
However, it could take as little as a few days.
Before symptoms appear, H influenza can cause many different kinds of infections.
They range from mild, like ear infections, to serious, like bloodstream infections.
Doctors consider some influenza infections invasive.
Invasive disease happens when the bacteria invades part of the body that are normally free from germs.
So, what I get from that is they're using a lot of words to basically say this is actually totally normal and it lives inside of you, but in what sounds like rare circumstances, something can happen.
And it can move to other parts of the body and it can cause infections.
We don't really know why that happens.
But the most infections that it causes, by the way, not really a big deal, but then it can sometimes be serious, right?
And so that's really important to know.
And I'm going to keep kind of flashing back to COVID because the majority of people who had COVID didn't even know they had it, right?
When they were initially counting all the cases, and they were like, you could have had it and just not known.
People were getting tested and told that they had COVID, which was insane.
They were like, well, you have it and you have no symptoms.
It's symptomless.
But you have it and you could spread it.
And these are the sorts of things that could happen in a worst case scenario.
And then we went through not knowing whether or not people were dying with or from COVID, but we know that they had COVID in their system when they died, even though they got hit by a car.
And so this was counted as a COVID death.
Really strange stuff when they use a bunch of different words, basically tell you that you shouldn't really be fearful of this, but things could happen and it could be really bad.
And that's, by the way, the circumstance for everything.
You could have a cold that goes sideways, which really is what coronavirus is, but that goes sideways and you can.
Die in a rare circumstance.
The reason why these things are considered rare is because they're rare.
They don't happen often.
And to get ourselves up into a tizzy about something that happens to virtually no one, you know, that you have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning, right, than you have of dying from rubella, it just seems a little bit bizarre.
You don't fear every day walking down the street thinking, I'm going to get struck by lightning.
And yet, Big Pharma is able to kind of put you into this neurosis and make you so fearful for something that is actually likely to never happen to you.
But let's read on.
How does it spread?
It spreads through respiratory droplets.
People who are infected spread the bacteria by coughing or sneezing, which creates small respiratory droplets that contain the bacteria.
Other people can get sick if they breathe in those droplets.
It sounds like just how you transfer a cold.
People who are not sick but have the bacteria in their noses and throats can still spread the bacteria.
This is how H. influenza spreads most of the time.
Now we're going to jump down to the part that obviously is terrifying to everyone because we're going to see that big word meningitis.
It says the most common types of invasive disease.
Right, so we know this doesn't happen often, but it can happen.
I want you to know that it can happen with this bacteria.
Right, the most common types of invasive disease caused by H influenza are pneumonia, which is a lung infection obviously, a very serious one if you get it, especially if you're older, bloodstream infection, and that third one, meningitis, the swelling of the lining of the brain and the spinal cord.
And again, as I said, we could point to so many examples that have been in the news of what happens when a person gets meningitis, and really.
What I would say that I have noticed that is the common thread in all of these cases is that people who get meningitis, it's not that they can't cure meningitis, it's that they don't really catch it in time, right?
And that's why they go from being healthy to sick.
You go to the hospital and you're showing symptoms of meningitis, and if they think, oh, this is just like a fever or it's just a cold, and they're not treating it instantly, you're likely going to die.
I will be honest and say that I was so fearful of meningitis that it was the one thing that when I first made the decision not to vaccinate my children, I guess I'd say my first child because that was really the scary one.
I'm doing something different that nobody's done in my family.
I Googled meningitis like a psychopath.
Like I Googled every possible symptom because I wanted to know that if he had one slight symptom of meningitis, that I would go to the hospital and I would demand that they test for it because I knew that it wasn't likely to be their first conclusion and for good reason because they don't see it often.
Meningitis is just not something that happens in the United States.
I wonder why.
Yeah.
So that was a lot.
But I especially love how she wants to be a militant mother to hospital staff, but can't bring herself to give the kid a vaccine that would absolutely save against him.
Easy to catch strain of a condition that she is afraid of.
Yeah.
Also, the whole thing of fearing of, you know, walking down the street getting struck by lightning.
She clearly has never talked to somebody with, I don't remember the name of the phobia, but the fear of lightning.
Yeah.
The pretzel twisting of this shit is almost Olympic level.
From the top of that clip, she starts by going into a rant about hand washing.
Nowhere in the first sentence she is referring to does it say anything about that.
It literally says, as she read it, H influenza disease is a name for any disease caused by H influenza bacteria.
She read that and jumped right off into talking about how Big Pharma takes the credit for basic sanitation practices.
This is something she likely felt that she could do to keep the pay pigs on the page of her delivery.
Not the actual page of the website.
She then skips way down the page to a little factoid about how there are six common types of H. influenza.
In doing so, she skipped over sections on types of infections, symptoms, risk factors, causes.
All the important shit.
Yeah, very important shit.
She goes on to read what I have to assume is a truncated form of the website because trying to follow along, the words are all there, but they are all over the place from whatever her team put together.
I just wanted to note that and move on to address briefly how she compares this to COVID.
A lot of people were asymptomatic during the main phase of COVID, and that is precisely why it was such a threat to people that could catch it and have symptoms.
That is why we had to do lockdowns, social distancing, and everything else.
Candace remains focused on this even today because of the sheer amount of money she lost out on, as well as merch sales and the like because her speaking engagements were canceled due to valid COVID concerns during 2020.
She cannot let it go, and also see that the COVID deaths and spread were due in large part to people like herself refusing to mask distance and just in general not be fucking pricks to other people.
We have covered that all before, of course, and I would have skipped it if not for the fact that we are going through every available minute of this fucking bullshit.
When we get back into her more regular content, that sort of thing will be notable and skipped.
Where I can.
Anyway, there is more to get through.
She ended there before saying that meningitis is not something that happens in the U.S.
She skipped right through the sections about the symptoms and complications.
I believe that they should be known, so here they are.
Serious Infections From Mild Cases00:03:13
Risk factors Haemophilus influenza can cause many different types of infections.
Symptoms depend on the part of the body that's infected.
Serious infections can result in long term health problems and death.
Complications aren't common for mild infections.
Seek medical attention right away if you think you or your child might have a serious H influenza infection.
Symptoms.
Experts don't know how long it takes after H influenza enters a person's body for someone to get sick.
However, it could take as little as a few days before symptoms appear.
The symptoms of H influenza disease depend on which part of the body is infected.
Generally, the symptoms are like those of other bacterial infections in that part of the body.
Serious infections, pneumonia.
Symptoms of pneumonia, a lung infection, usually include fever, chills, or sweating, cough, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, chest pain, headache, muscle pain or aches, excessive tiredness, and bloodstream infections.
Symptoms of bloodstream infection usually include fever, chills, or sweating, excessive tiredness, pain in the belly, diarrhea or nausea with or without vomiting, anxiety.
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing, altered mental status or confusion.
A bloodstream infection from H influenza can occur with or without other infections such as pneumonia or meningitis.
Meningitis.
Symptoms of meningitis typically include sudden onset of fever, headache, stiff neck, nausea with or without vomiting, photophobia, such as eyes being more sensitive to light, and altered mental status or confusion.
Babies with meningitis may be irritable.
Vomit, feed poorly, appear to be slow or inactive, have abnormal reflexes, mild infections, and ear infections.
Symptoms of ear infections can include ear pain, a red swollen eardrum, fever, sleepiness, bronchitis.
And bronchitis is when the airways that carry air to the lungs get inflamed or swell.
Symptoms of bronchitis can include coughing with or without mucus, soreness in the chest, excessive tiredness, mild headache, mild body aches, sore throat.
Complications and when to seek help.
Says, serious infections can result in sepsis, long term problems, or death.
Sepsis is a life threatening emergency resulting from the body's extreme response to infection.
Long term problems can include brain damage or hearing loss from meningitis, loss of limbs from bloodstream infections.
Such complications are rare and are not usually severe for mild infections like bronchitis and ear infections.
When to seek medical care?
See a healthcare provider right away if you think you or your child might have a serious H influenza infection.
H influenza, including HIB, are bacteria that can cause severe infections, primarily in children younger than five years old.
The African Meningitis Belt Crisis00:12:23
Now, the clip also pointed to the basic and flawed understanding of disease that Candace Owens has, and I want to point to the fact that she claimed that basic sanitation and hygiene were the cause of the HIB version of meningitis going away.
That is entirely false.
The vaccine is the main cause of the virus almost going away.
And we can see this because the largest spread of known infection of this bacteria in America was in the period just between 1960, when tracing efforts began, and 1975, when vaccines were in trials.
Vaccination rollout for the American market began in 1987, but they were replaced by better vaccines over the following years.
I have included a link to an NIH paper on the subject in the footnotes, but suffice to say, The USA and other countries where the vaccines rolled out first had working sanitation systems and had the same, if not higher, rates of HIV infection than other parts of the world until vaccination took hold here and our rates plummeted.
Sanitation doesn't matter with HIV as it travels through breath and nasal passageways, much like COVID.
It isn't airborne like COVID, but can be caught within relatively close contact with someone carrying it.
Adults and persons over five years old can be carriers if they aren't vaccinated.
And HIB can be deadly or damaging if caught by anyone aged two months to five years, but adults with immunocompromised systems can catch it as well from a variety of factors.
Again, all of this is in the linked report.
HIB damage dropped off by 99% after widespread vaccine rollout.
Typically, these days, when persons in America get it, they are usually not vaccinated themselves andor they live in low vaccination areas.
It has nothing to do with sanitation in this case.
Candace, further taking a shit on the rate of incidence, is also handled in the report linked, but here are some numbers from the report.
Before vaccination, keep in mind this was in the 20th century, during a time of massive economic goodness with modern sanitation and everything, an estimated 20,000 cases of invasive HIV disease occurred every year in children younger than five in the pre vaccine era, with about 1,000 of them dying annually.
The annual incidence of hib meningitis in children 0 to 4 years was about 54 per 100,000, 19 to 69 per 100,000.
I had to do it.
And overall, invasive hib disease incidence in U.S. children under 5 has been estimated around 67 to 131 per 100,000 people per year, and approximately one per 100,000 children per year at that age range.
And approximately 1 in 200 children under 5 years old developed invasive hib disease at some point.
After hib vaccination in the US, since routine hib conjugate vaccination, which took place in the early 1990s, invasive hib disease in US children under 5 has fallen by about 99%.
From 2009 to 2018, only 36 HIV cases in children under 5 years old were reported nationwide, and the current incidence is well under one case per 100,000 children under 5.
For example, it was 0.08 per 100,000 kids in 2018, and less than 0.27 per 100,000 since 2001.
In practical terms, the U.S. Now, it sees only about 20 to 40 HIB cases per year in children under five compared to about 20,000 per year before.
20 to 40 versus 20,000.
Yeah.
So, given all of that, is Candace Dunn talking about her obviously ill informed version of this?
No.
Of course not.
So, let me give you some numbers.
And again, you should go back and re watch the first episode when we talk about how big pharma makes you more fearful than you should be of certain diseases.
Meningitis is one that is a pretty good example.
So, via the CDC website, it tells us that more than 1.2 million cases of bacterial meningitis are estimated to occur worldwide each year.
And without treatment, without treatment, again, that's that key phrase, without treatment, the case fatality rates can be up to 70%.
That sounds crazy.
You're like, oh my gosh, is my child going to be what?
My baby, forgetting the adult, my infant, is my infant going to be?
One of the 1.2 million cases.
Wait a minute.
So I read worldwide.
Does it say worldwide?
Because that sounds like there are 8 billion people in the world.
Okay.
And now you're telling me that without treatment, which basically means this went undiagnosed, and we know that it is fatal if it is not diagnosed, that the fatality rate is up to 70%.
Okay.
Well, the first thing that I think when I see that is I think, okay, if you're telling me it's a bacteria and you are intentionally telling me the global numbers, it is because it is likely.
That in places where there is not any cleanliness, right, where they have not established running water, when they are not showering, where they are not washing their hands, basic sanitation, that is likely where you are going to see most of the cases.
No, Candace, no.
As we have established, this is not a sanitation issue.
The reason why the worldwide number is that high year over year is due to poorer countries not having the vaccine in their public health stack.
That's it.
That's the reason why it hasn't been wiped out.
The incidence of it is just low enough in many countries that they can give it as a reason to not have it on schedule, up against things with higher death tolls.
But a simple fact as well is, Without some sort of social help, living through a meningitis infection and coming out with brain damage, limb damage, hearing loss, and so on, can also be a death sentence with a lot of suffering in the middle.
And this is not limited to children, it only tends to happen to adults less.
But Candace wants to discuss American numbers now with a round of liar statistics the game that the Gish Gallup girl herself just loves the most.
And so I asked the question.
What about in the United States?
That's the first thing I want to know.
I want to know what about in the country that I live in?
Make this argument real to me.
Well, here is the answer.
Approximately 600 to 1,000 people contract meningitis disease in the United States each year.
600 to 1,000.
Okay, now that suddenly doesn't seem so scary when you weigh that against the fact that we have over 350 million people, and you're saying just 600 people contract it.
Right?
And that means if there's an intervention, many people might be surviving.
That probably means that not many people die, right?
So, of the 600 to 1,000 people that contract this bacterial disease, 10 to 15% die, right?
10% of 1,000 people, 100 people die out of the 1,000, the max 1,000 people that contract this in the United States.
And among the people who survive, approximately 1 in 5 live with permanent disabilities, such as brain damage, hearing loss.
Loss of kidney function or limb amputations because, and like I said, a lot of those stories because I've read them because I went into the psychosis when I was having my first child.
It's just because simply when they got to the doctor, they just kept misdiagnosing it.
And by the time the doctor went online and said, wait, this might be that rare meningitis and got the medicine they needed, they were already suffering from some form of brain damage, some hearing loss, some loss of kidney function, amputated limbs.
It is a bacteria that does move very quickly from the body once it is inside of the body.
The thing goes on to say that 21% of all meningitis disease cases occur in preteens and young adults that are aged between 11 and 24 years, which is really interesting, especially as we jump into this vaccine insert.
Yeah, the current numbers on HIB are low, Candace, because of the fucking vaccine.
Vaccine uptake resulted in a 99% case elimination rate compared to the years before it was widely available.
And if one of her non-vaxxed kids got HIB, it would likely come their way via another non-vaxxed human, but would also do most of its damage within hours.
Once it gets to the stage where it is diagnosed, even roughly, treatment can save a life, but a wide range of symptoms can and often do take hold forever.
Everything she read off that list regarding pain, amputation, loss of motor control, Organ failure and organ damage, nerve damage, and of course death, all of it can be avoided with a vaccine for this particular easy to catch bacteria.
Other forms of meningitis are harder to catch, such as the one that kills people via epidural injection that we discussed earlier.
We have such low numbers because we have the fucking vaccine.
Other countries where they don't have the fucking vaccine series still experience this as a massive issue, such as a region of Africa known as the meningitis belt.
The following is from Wikipedia on the subject with relevant links in the show notes.
Niceria meningitis, or meningititis actually is how they have it pronounced, is found in other parts of the world as well, but the highest rates occur in the meningitis belt.
Meningococcal disease is persistently high in this region.
Large epidemics occur every 5 to 12 years during the dry season, December to June.
Incidence of the disease declines from May to June in the more humid weather.
Other factors contributing to the sustained transmission of meningococcal disease include dust, other respiratory viruses that co-circulate, as well as close social contact.
Historically, 90% of outbreaks in the meningitis belt were primarily due to Neisseria meningitis, serogroup A.
However, a monovalent serogroup A meningococcal conjugate vaccine, known as Menafirvac, what's that?
That's a mouthful.
Yeah.
Menafirvac.
Was introduced in the region in 2010.
Since then, meningococcal outbreaks in the meningitis belt have primarily been due to serogroups C and W.
A few serogroup X outbreaks have also been reported.
In the African meningitis belt, the World Health Organization defines a meningococcal epidemic as at least 100 cases per 100,000 inhabitants in a year.
At its peak, the incidence of meningococcal disease has reached rates of up to 1,000 cases per 100,000 inhabitants, such as during the epidemics of 1996 and 2001.
In the belt, fatality from NMA disease has been estimated at 10 to 15 percent.
Although higher rates have been seen in some settings.
Around 10 to 20% of survivors of meningococcal meningitis are left with permanent neuropsychological conditions such as hearing loss, vision loss, epilepsy, or other neurological disorders.
Young children are particularly vulnerable due to immaturity in their immune systems, which contributes to the disproportionate burden of the disease in Africa due to its young population.
Premature Infants Need Boosters00:09:30
Now, all of that being said, The HIB vaccine would not protect against the Nasiria variant mentioned here.
It is a different disease and requires a different vaccine, which exists.
But since this is localized mostly to that part of the world, it isn't seen as a risk here or elsewhere, even with international travel being a thing.
But that is also the point of vaccinating populations against what kind of things they deal with regularly and keeping guidelines up for vaccination so that travelers visiting do not catch those diseases or risk taking them elsewhere.
Travelers to the meningitis belt countries are often advised or required, depending on various factors, to get the damn vaccines before travel.
Next up, a user corrected Candace in her mispronunciation of a popular subject of hers.
So, the first thing that jumps out at me, and I brought up some in previous episodes, by the way, thank you to the person that corrected my very bad French.
You are correct, this is named after a doctor, and it's Guillaume Boré.
I love when people make comments about me pronouncing things wrong as if I care about whether or not my French is on.
And I guess that makes you a very good doctor and steward of information because if I can't say Guillain Barre syndrome, then what could I possibly know?
Well, Guillain Barre syndrome is listed again, over and over again.
We keep seeing this on so many vaccine inserts.
And it says right there under 5.1 that if Guillain Barre syndrome has occurred within six weeks of receipt of a prior vaccine containing the tetanus toxoid, the decision to give any tetanus toxoid containing vaccine, including Hiborix, so it also contains the tetanus toxoid.
In this vaccine, should be based on careful consideration of the potential benefits and the possible risks.
So, right off of the jump, when I see something like that, it just comes and arrives to me as a really big warning and a really big precaution.
We have gone over on past episodes just what exactly that syndrome entails.
And yeah, very, they would probably argue to you, a doctor, very low risk that you could develop this syndrome.
And I would argue back, very low risk that you could get meningitis and die in the United States.
That's what I would say back.
Because of the fucking vaccine.
Yeah, the answer is constantly there in her face because of the vaccine.
That is why the risk of your kid getting it is super low because people are commonly fucking vaxxed.
The risk of GBS, by the way, is not noted with any number because the risk is really that low.
And just to make sure, GBS does not stand for gamer bullshit.
No.
As for Guillain Barre syndrome, the symptoms of GBS, if they occur at all, are transient.
Whereas the effects of a successful transient, meaning you'll have it for a little while and then it's gone.
It's fucking gone.
Whereas the risk of the effects, I'm sorry, whereas the effects of a successfully treated case of meningitis are often lifelong.
The risk of GBS on vaccines on the whole is about one to three cases per one million people.
Yeah.
And this is true across pretty much every vaccine on the market.
She keeps bringing it up because it is listed, because legally it has to be listed.
But this is the same mental gymnastics as someone that is afraid of cars because accidents happen or because cars blow up.
But those things occur at much higher rates than GBS on the whole.
And so that kind of anxiety and the scope of this is warranted.
More people literally get struck by lightning and attacked by sharks on a yearly basis than get GBS from vaccines.
This is fucking absurd.
I wonder if more people die by shovel as well.
Probably.
Yeah.
Common bludgeonings are the cause of death in so many cases.
Yes.
If literally every cop show has taught me anything.
Yeah.
If every crime show is like, how were they killed?
What's this impact injury?
Oh, look, it's a shovel, a hammer, a fucking oversized chess piece, mom's favorite face, a fucking hockey stick, their grandmother's urn.
Yeah, they slipped and fell.
Yeah.
Give me a break.
Okay, next.
What we have here under 5.3 apnea and premature infants, that's also a discussion that needs to be had.
People that are giving birth prematurely, I think the standard, the industry standard, is not to give your children a bunch of vaccines until they're bigger, as they should not do.
But it just begs the question how do they decide what weight threshold they decide that it's okay, it's actually perfectly acceptable for you to wait to do these vaccines.
But if your child is born a month later and they're seven pounds, three ounces, we've decided that they couldn't possibly walk out this door without these vaccines.
So premature infants can wait.
Are the diseases not going to get them in the world?
It just lets you know that in big pharma, it's all just a scam, right?
There's no reason why they shouldn't allow you to wait to get vaccines if they actually already recommend that children that are a certain birth weight.
Don't get the vaccines at all.
It tells you that, and we don't hear that these children are mass dying from these diseases.
We are hearing that these premature infants are all mass dying because they know that they won't.
They know that they won't and that the chances are higher that they're instead going to suffer a reaction from the vaccine.
It's the vaccine that actually represents a threat to the infant, not them going out into the world and being concerned that they're going to get hepatitis B on the first day of life.
I just wanted to point that out.
And I will point out that premature infants have different needs, and in this case, those are found in a good study by the NIH on this topic.
It's easy to find on the interwebs, but here is the gist of the argument from a study linked in the stack from 2006.
Studies show preterm infants can generate more protective antibodies to HIB, but their antibody levels after early doses are often lower than those of term infants and the response is more variable.
Some accelerated schedules, like two, three, four months, in preterm infants have been associated with slightly higher vaccine failure rates, leading to an emphasis on completing the full primary series plus booster, and in some settings, they use extended schedules to optimize protection.
Schedules are actually handled with U.S. guidance that states that all infants, Including preterm infants, should start HIV vaccination at two months of chronological age, not the corrected gestational age, meaning, you know, you're born, let's say it's three, four weeks early, you get your shit two months in, not waiting an extra month.
Not going, okay, well, you know, you were a month early, so we're going to delay this by a month.
No, fuck no.
It is, you're born, what's the schedule?
It's two months.
Great, here you go.
Yeah.
You know, So, they should start it at the chronological age, not the corrected gestational age, using the same basic series as term infants.
The main special provision is not a different antigen schedule for Hibarix itself, but there is the added caution that clinicians may vaccinate in a monitored setting, consider the infant's respiratory history, and closely watch for apnea in the first days after vaccination.
The case to vaccinate or not vaccinate a child that is premature is done on a vaccine to vaccine basis because each one is different.
In the study linked, they discussed that maternal antibodies do protect all babies, but premature infants often do not have the desired responses they want them to have with certain vaccines on the chronological schedule.
This is different from the gestational age schedule, which assumes a nine month gestation and resulting vaccine timing.
A premature infant on that schedule would have their timing stretched to that system as opposed to the chronological schedule.
HIB is a chronological one, but others are gestational.
It has less to do with birth weight and more to do with how the aging infant body handles the vaccines.
In some cases, a premature infant body can require a vaccine booster sooner than a more normal infant.
When we are discussing a condition like HIB, where the oops point might result in death or a lifetime of issues, this kind of distinction becomes important.
A parent should have a reasonable expectation that their vaxxxed kid isn't going to need a booster for quite some time after vaccination.
This is why these schedules exist and should be adhered to in all possible cases.
Now, Candace will move on to addressing something that we have discussed at length on this show, along with a continuation of the story she started the show with, calling back to her certified pediatric nurse practitioner.
Adverse Reactions Are Rarely Real00:15:20
Moving on, there's this prevention measure under 5.4 that says preventing and managing allergic vaccine reactions.
This is not something that I see on every vaccine insert.
It says, prior to administration, the healthcare provider should review the patient's immunization history for possible vaccine hypersensitivity.
Epinephrine and other appropriate agents used for the control of immediate allergic reactions must be immediately available should an acute anaphylactic reaction occur.
So they know, obviously, to have put that in print that an anaphylactic reaction can occur.
We know that we can look when we get later into this that we are going to see that as having been something that was represented.
As an adverse reaction throughout clinical trials.
But you know, the section that I always tell everyone to go straight to is post marketing experience.
And you already know the reason why.
It's because, well, I know what happened to me, and I don't feel confident when I got the Gardasil vaccine that the person who administered it reported.
I have no idea of knowing whether or not they reported what happened to me as an episode.
I would hope that they did.
But our current pediatrician, the one that I've been mentioning throughout this episode, said to me, she actually didn't say to me, she said it to my brother in law.
Who I mentioned to you guys, my sister has just made the decision not to vax her second child.
And so my pediatrician was kind enough to see her daughter, who was kicked out of the pediatrician's office along with her son for refusing to vax just one of them.
Her son's completely vaxxed.
She made a decision not to vax her daughter because her son has been so sick.
And they said, both of you must go.
And they have been struggling to find a pediatrician since in Connecticut.
So my pediatrician, being the kind, adoring woman that she is, said, I will see your child for free.
And I'm already here looking at Candace's new son.
And she saw her daughter, her daughter was perfectly healthy, but they asked her a lot of questions because now they're dealing with this for the first time.
That this scary butterflies I know I'm doing something different here, but are we doing this right?
Uh, is our child going to get sick?
Are we crazy for trying something different and listening to Candace?
Am I crazy for listening to my little sister?
So they had a ton of questions, not really trusting themselves and trusting what they were doing.
And one of the questions that my brother in law asked her, I guess he had done his research, and he said, You know, when I look into the instances of these things happening, you know, he's talking about adverse reactions, it seems tremendously low.
And she said to him, Well, let me tell you, as someone, Who used to work at a hospital for years and used to administer these vaccines, that we are told not to report it.
She said that.
She said, every single time that I was there, and this is why I eventually left the hospital that I worked at because I felt like I was no longer doing good when COVID took place, is when she said she was done because she felt like she was lying.
She was being tasked with lying to her patients and it no longer sat with her morally.
But she said that when she would administer a vaccine and it would be very clear that the child was having what she would describe as an adverse reaction, she would go to her superior.
The superior would say to her, Oh, no, no, no, no, that's totally normal.
This is in the list of things that can happen.
So, like, you don't need to report this.
So she said, It is massively underreported.
And she would say, I would think that the majority, like a ton of children, were having adverse reactions.
But if they list it as an adverse reaction that can happen, then they are being encouraged by their superiors not to report it because it's listed.
Oh, so it can totally happen.
Sorry, you went blind in your left eye, but it's listener and things that can happen.
So we consider that normal.
Crazy.
And when she said this to him, he was like, Wow.
And she said it's a big part of the reason why I just wanted to get out because I didn't feel like I could have that honest conversation with parents.
And she felt that she was going against her gut.
So I just wanted to kind of share that as a sidebar and tell you why I pay the most attention and I give the most credence to that section where it tells you about these reactions, the post marketing experience reactions, which are people like us that are taking the time to report any reactions that we have.
And they make that process so painful to do.
Explosive of Trim.
As we have covered many times on this show, it is highly doubtful that Candace Owens was ever injured by the Gardasole vaccine, as she has claimed, because there is no case for it in the VARES system.
That would be the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.
Anyone that wants more information on that can go back to the first episode in this series, where the links to that information can be found, specifically about her type of case.
Anyway, I looked into the employment history of Candace's CPMP here, and she has no record.
Of ever having been employed at any hospital at any time ever.
She was an NP, a nurse practitioner, and then from 2015 to 2019, she was a real estate agent at a REMAX realtor in East Nashville.
No idea if she still does that, but it overlapped with her work as a CPNP, which she started doing in 2011, having got her degree in 2010.
Nothing in her public bio says anything about having been employed in hospitals anywhere.
Now, I can't say for sure if Candace made this shit up or the CPMP did or both, but it absolutely seems false in every way.
During the main phase of COVID vaccination, while authorities did want people to get vaxxed so that the world could resume moving along as normal, vaccine issues were being reported and listened to and being given airtime.
Unless, of course, they were bullshit, and most bullshit was shot down early.
So I don't believe a word of this shit, including, of course, Candace Owens's noise about Gardasil.
Had her symptoms that she said happened to her been on record, she probably could have sought a payout with the vaccine court.
She was no stranger to the court system by this point in her life, having been in it back in high school just a few years prior.
If she really was unable, To provide money for her last year of college that could have been solved with a payout from a real case made with VARES, V A E R S.
She wouldn't have gotten a fortune, but she would have gotten something.
It is the constant opinion of this show that Candace's incident with Gardasil did not happen.
And it is also the position of this show that her CPNP did not work in any hospital during COVID, since her entire work history is in clinics such as Goodlitzville Pediatrics and Compass Pediatrics.
Now, Candace is jumping right off that line of bullshit back into the vaccine insert.
So, on a post marketing experience, that is under 6.2, it reads In addition to reports in clinical trials for Hibarix, the following adverse reactions have been identified during post approval use of Hibarix.
Because these reactions are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not possible to reliably estimate their frequency or establish a causal relationship to vaccination.
So, Parents, what they're telling you, of course, are taking the time to lie for no reason and filling out our ridiculously long forms to do it.
Yeah, not going to believe that.
I'm going to trust moms and dads.
Just going to pause right there.
Her inference really pisses me off sometimes.
Like, the entire reason why these post marketing things can't be taken fully as definitive proof is because life and random shit in life happens.
In a clinical setting or a hospital, there is more space to observe reactions.
I make judgments on what is occurring, provided that all available information is true and correct at the time.
But once a patient is out in the world, without extensive and invasive monitoring of their daily life, what happens or doesn't happen can't be chalked up to a vaccine alone.
Just more bullshit from her.
But let's let her continue.
What we have under immune system disorders are allergic reactions, including, as we guessed and suspected, anaphylactic and anaphylactoid reactions.
Under nervous system disorders, which is just absolutely terrifying.
We have convulsions with or without fever, hypotonic or hyporesponsive episode.
As an example, here, the sudden onset of hypotonia or hyporesponsiveness and pallor or cyanosis.
Then, what we have under respiratory, we have apnea.
So, these are just some things that you should pay attention to that parents took the time to report and that we know parents had to have wanted to do that.
My parents didn't do that when I had my very severe reaction to the GARSO vaccine.
I just went home.
And I again have no idea whether or not the doctors reported it, so you should always pay extra attention to the post marketing experiences.
Yeah, more gartersome bullshit.
Candace has said before that she received the shot while in college on campus.
Her parents, though divorced and living in separate spaces, did not live near her when she was at URI.
They were each living 120 miles away in Stamford, Connecticut.
She was an adult at this point in her life, and there would have been no reason for her to tell them that she got this vaccine or had a purported bad effect from it.
No reason for her doctor to tell her parents since she was an adult and this would have violated medical privacy protections.
And it would not have been on her parents to report it to bears or any other body since she was not in their care anymore and was an otherwise average adult human.
I am not saying that post marketing results are bullshit.
I'm not saying that.
But in many cases, most of the time, they are cautionary tales and they are mild.
The apnea she mentioned is the same that was already mentioned earlier in the paper, and it refers back to it in a parenthetical section she skipped over.
It is also noted as a passing thing and quite rare anyway.
Moving on.
Now, here's something I just have a Question about.
So, you remember early on in the show, I told you that they claim that bacterial meningitis looks like people between the ages of, let me just go up, say, 11 and 24.
21% of all of these bacterial disease cases occur in preteens, teens and young adults that are aged between 11 and 24.
That is per the CDC website.
Well, under pregnancy here, it tells you that this vaccine is not approved for use in individuals aged five years and older.
And then it says, no human or animal data with Hibarix are available to assess vaccine associated risks in pregnancy.
What?
So, just to be clear, when they are telling you to get this vaccine, they are telling you to give this to infants from the ages of two months to 15 months of age.
Okay?
But within this insert, they are telling you that it is not approved for individuals that are older than five years old.
And they are telling you that there is no human or animal data that tells us whether or not.
It is safe for people that are pregnant.
Now, I don't know about you, but if it is not safe for me to get this vaccine, or if you don't know based on human or animal data whether or not it is safe or whether or not there are risks for a pregnant person, I'm 34 years old, I just got done being pregnant, then why on earth would I want to give this to my now two month old baby?
Somebody riddle me that.
Tell me why I would be comfortable.
If you're not comfortable putting it in my body as an adult woman who's 34 years old, Why should I feel comfortable giving this to an infant?
The mind boggles.
Really, just absolutely boggles when I take a look at these warnings and these things that they are willing to put in writing, but they don't want to give to mom and dad.
Okay, so about the age thing.
Candidates could have easily looked this up and chose not to do so, like with everything else.
Anyway, Hibrix is not approved for use in persons over five years of age because it wasn't tested on them.
The CDC information about persons getting it between 11 and 24 years of age that group is also a little under 21% of the population that gets it.
The 80% or so that get it.
Are under age five, getting it being HIB, not the vaccine, the actual HIB.
The 80% or so of people that get it are under age five, and that has been the case almost forever.
Part of this is because most people develop an immunity to HIB and also can become carriers to this thing that they are largely immune to and therefore unaware of and can pass it on without knowing to a child that has no defense against it.
The vaccine wasn't tested on a pregnant population either because maternal antibody protection is a real thing that helps a newborn.
And vaccinating while the kid is in there could very well be a waste of a vaccine since the maternal antibodies would likely fight it off or weaken it, giving possibly a weakened vaccine result or a false sense of security, both of which are not good.
Peak incidence of catching HIB is between the ages of six months to 11 months old.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
The following comes from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
The awesomely named Chop.
Give me a second, I need to drink some water.
Chop.
Okay.
This is going to require some reading.
Hemophilus influenza type B, the disease and vaccine.
It quotes here Children with HIB came in struggling to breathe.
They couldn't breathe because their epiglottis, a skin flap at the top of the windpipe, was infected, cutting off their airflow.
We had a room that was dark, except for an aquarium, and the children were taken there to wait for the epiglottitis team.
Hospitals have these specialized teams composed of physicians, ear, nose, and throat specialists, anesthesiologists, and nurses who were experienced in quickly and efficiently.
Intubating patients.
The goal of the epiglottitis team was to keep these patients, often young children less than five years old, calm and quickly insert a breathing tube.
It was the first step in helping them survive their infection.
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This is the story told by pediatricians who practiced medicine before there was a vaccine against HIB.
Older pediatricians understand the value of the HIB vaccine because they watched this vaccine.
First introduced in the early 1990s, virtually eliminate a disease that affected about 20,000 children every year in the US.
Today, children receive three or four doses of HIB vaccine between two months and 15 months of age, and many younger pediatricians have never seen a patient with HIB.
Haemophilus influenza type B, HIB, is a bacterium that infects the lining of the brain.
An infection in this part of the brain is called meningitis.
Meningitis is caused by several different bacteria and some viruses.
However, before there was a vaccine, HIB was by far the most common cause of bacterial meningitis in children.
Symptoms of HIB meningitis can progress to include coma and death.
Some children recover but are left permanently paralyzed, deaf, blind, or mentally impaired.
Children under 5 are at the greatest risk for HIB infections.
Their symptoms depend on where the infection occurs.
Lining of the brain, called meningitis, can cause fever, stiff neck, and drowsiness.
Bloodstream, called sepsis.
Lungs, called pneumonia.
Lower, deep layers of skin, called cellulitis.
Joints, called arthritis.
Epiglottis, skin flap at top of windpipe, called epiglottitis.
One of the more frightening conditions was the last one.
The epiglottis prevents food from entering the windpipe when we swallow.
When the epiglottis was infected, it becomes inflamed, causing it to block the windpipe.
As a result, air cannot pass into the windpipe, causing suffocation and occasionally death.
And they have a link here to find out more about meningitis in this video discussion between two chop doctors.
So, how do you catch HIB?
HIB bacteria commonly line the surface of the nose and the back of the throat.
Because most adults are immune to HIB, a mother will passively transfer antibodies from her own blood to the blood of her newborn baby before the baby is born.
The antibodies that the baby gets before birth usually last for a few months.
However, after that time, the baby is unprotected.
Two points are important.
Most children who come in contact with HIB don't have a problem.
But before the HIB vaccine, about 20,000 children every year in the U.S. would get serious and occasionally fatal infections.
Most children harmed by HIB were previously healthy and well nourished.
The timing of the HIB vaccine during infancy takes into account both the diminishing protection from maternal antibodies as well as the increased risk early in life.
This is why the vaccine is started at two months of age.
By starting the vaccine on time and staying on schedule, most infants will be protected with their own immunity.
By the time their protection with mom's antibodies goes away, the HIB vaccine is made from the sugar coating of the bacteria.
The sugar coating is called a polysaccharide.
Antibodies directed against the HIB polysaccharide protect the child against an infection that could result in permanent disabilities or death.
Unfortunately, children less than two years old don't develop very good immune responses to polysaccharides, even if exposed to them through infections.
For this reason, Children less than two years old who catch HIB and survive the infection are still recommended to receive the HIB vaccine.
Scientists have figured out that by taking the HIB polysaccharide and linking it to a harmless protein, young children are able to make a stronger immune response to the polysaccharide.
A vaccine that includes a harmless protein attached to a polysaccharide is called a conjugate vaccine.
The conjugate HIB vaccine works extremely well.
Before the vaccine, HIB caused about 20,000 cases of serious disease in the United States every year.
In 2019, 18 cases of HIV in children 5 years of age and younger were reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC.
In 2023, the CDC evaluated cases of hemophilia influenza reported in 14 states.
These states recorded about one quarter of the cases of disease throughout the U.S. that year.
Of those, 13 cases of HIV occurred in children in less than 5 years of age.
Most of those children were non vaccinated or had not yet finished their doses of vaccine.
So, what are the side effects of the HIV vaccine?
After receiving the HIV vaccine, some children may experience pain or soreness at the injection site, a low grade fever, a loss of appetite, and irritability.
The HIV vaccine does not cause serious side effects.
So, some other questions you might have Is the HIV vaccine recommended for anyone other than infants?
Most often, the HIV vaccine is given to infants, but in a few cases, other people may be recommended to get this vaccine, such as those.
Without a spleen, or with a spleen that doesn't work, or preparing to have their spleen surgically removed, or people with sickle cell disease, or people who had a bone marrow transplant even if they were previously vaccinated against HIB, or patients between 5 and 18 years old who have been diagnosed with HIV.
If you are concerned that you or a family member might need this vaccine, talk with your healthcare provider.
So, is it true that more than one type of infection can cause meningitis?
Yes.
Meningitis refers to an infection that has reached the lining of the brain and spinal cord.
It can be caused by viruses or bacteria.
Meningitis caused by a virus called viral meningitis is the most common type of meningitis.
It is often less severe than bacterial meningitis.
Vaccine preventable diseases that can cause viral meningitis include measles, mumps, chickenpox, and influenza.
Bacterial meningitis tends to be more severe.
However, most cases of bacterial meningitis can be prevented by vaccination.
Bacteria most often associated with meningitis include meningococcus and pneumococcus and HIV.
Most children are fully immunized against pneumococcus and HIV by two years of age, and most adolescents are protected against meningococcus.
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I have another video.
Doctors talking about meningitis.
Skipping that, moving on.
Relative risks and benefits.
Do the benefits of the HIB vaccine outweigh its risks?
The HIB vaccine has caused a dramatic decline in the incidence of meningitis, bloodstream infections, and pneumonia caused by HIB.
However, HIB bacteria still circulate in the community and occasionally cause disease.
On the other hand, the HIB vaccine causes no serious side effects.
Therefore, the benefits of the HIV vaccine clearly outweigh its risks.
Disease risks include meningitis, sepsis, epiglottitis, arthritis, cellulitis, pneumonia, and the disease can be fatal.
Vaccine risks once again, pain or soreness at the injection site, low grade fever, loss of appetite, irritability.
So there you have it.
All of that was readily available to her.
And just in case anyone asks, that site currently was last reviewed for accuracy by hero of the show, Dr. Paul Offutt, MD, on February 25th, 2026.
Keep all of that in mind as we go forward.
It says the same thing under lactation that it is not approved for use in individuals that are aged five years and older.
You already know.
My conspiracy theory about that by the time your child is five, they have to be enrolled into school, and there is a real record of how they are performing, how they are thinking, how if they are reading, if they're able to communicate.
And if they suddenly gave your child the vaccine and they started to go backwards and they started to regress, you would probably be able to prove that it was caused by the vaccine.
But if you give it to a two month old, you give it to someone that's 15 months old, they can look at mom and dad and they can gaslight them.
They can say, Oh, you know, your child always had this, you just didn't know.
These things present later in life.
Your child was, you know, always had an ability to speak.
Of course, they were only two months old.
There's no developmental delays.
You're crazy if you say that your child was totally fine until they got the vaccine.
Are you going to be an anti vaxxer?
It allows that conversation to take place.
And so I find this section to be extremely strange.
It once again lists under lactation that no human or animal data are available to assess the impact of Fiborex on milk production, its presence in breast milk, or if its effects or Even stranger, its effects on a breastfed infant.
Well, guess what?
Infants are still breastfeeding at two months.
So if you haven't tested it within the breast milk, but you wanted to give it to the child, all of this just seems to be so conflicting to me.
Why wouldn't you test all of it?
You've had the time to do it.
You have the time to do it.
You don't want to do it because you don't want to know the answer to these things.
Well, I do know the answer.
The following comes from an NIH National Institutes of Health report that tackles this right from the top.
Although there is some conflicting information on the effect of breastfeeding on infants' antibody response to the Haemophilus influenza type B vaccines, the HIB, there is no evidence that breastfeeding reduces protection against the disease.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and several health professional organizations state that vaccines given to a nursing mother do not affect the safety of breastfeeding for mothers or infants, and that breastfeeding is not a contraindication to the HIB vaccine.
Breastfeeding alone appears to increase antibodies against HIB and reduce the incidence of HIB meningitis.
Breastfeeding also appears to reduce infant side effects associated with routine childhood immunization.
Breastfed infants should be vaccinated according to the routine recommended schedules.
Drug levels, maternal levels.
A study compared colostrum and milk antibody levels following maternal immunization.
With HIB polysaccharide vaccine at three time periods.
Women who were immunized at 24 to 26 weeks of pregnancy had higher antibody levels in colostrum and in breast milk at three or six months after delivery than women who were immunized one to eight months before pregnancy or those who had not been immunized.
Effects in breastfed infants breastfed infants are less likely to have fever and may be less likely to experience anorexia and reduced energy intake.
After routine childhood immunization, than those who are not breastfed.
In two studies, breastfed infants had higher antibody titles against HIB than formula fed infants at 7 and 12 months of age after vaccination with the HIB conjugate vaccine.
In another study, infants breastfed for longer than 90 days had a better antibody response to the vaccine at 13 months of age than those breastfed less than 90 days.
In a study of 408 infants immunized with HIB polysaccharide tetanus toxoid conjugate vaccine, no difference in antibodies was observed at seven months between infants breastfed for less than four weeks and those who were breastfed for 24 weeks or more.
Likewise, no difference in antibody response was found when infants were grouped by breastfeeding less than one month or greater than one month.
Another study of 252 infants who each received one of four HIB vaccines.
Found no difference in antibodies among those who were breastfed and those who were not.
Among 272 infants who were vaccinated with HIB vaccine at two and four months postpartum, 101 were breastfed and 171 were formula fed.
Of the breastfed infants, 79% were breastfed at least 80% at seven weeks and 59% at seven months of age.
Breastfed infants had lower titers than formula fed infants at both seven weeks and seven months of age.
Although the difference was statistically significant after adjustment for confounding variables, no invasive HIB infections occurred in any of the infants in the study.
A study in Sweden compared the response to HIB vaccine in infants who were either breastfed or randomized to one of three different formulas.
In a secondary analysis of the results, breastfed infants had significantly lower levels against HIB at 4, 6, and 12 months than formula fed infants.
A significantly higher proportion of the formula fed infants showed HIB concentrations above the protective levels at 4, 6, and 12 months.
The authors could not explain the differences but felt that the clinical relevance of different responses is most likely limited.
So there we go.
Studies have been done, and at the bottom of the page for this report, there are many sources.
Useful to check out if you're dealing with a parent like Candace Owens or one that lives and dies on her type of misinformation.
Moving on, she will get into her fucking absurd take that she does in each one of these so far about, well, You listen.
Then it says under pediatric use, the safety and effectiveness of Hibarix in children that are younger than six weeks and in children that are aged five to 16 years old has not been established.
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We simply don't know if it is safe.
We haven't established that safety for people, for children that are five to 16 years old.
But we know, we absolutely know it is safe for your two month old.
Trust us.
Trust the science.
Trust the experts.
There is nothing shady going on here.
And again, if you have any questions about it, that would make you an anti vaxxer.
Jumping down to 13.1, repeat, we say it every episode, it is in fact in every one of these inserts that Hiborix, despite the astounding amount of time that they have had to test all of these vaccines over and over again, has not been established, has not been evaluated, pardon, for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or for impairment of fertility.
We just don't know whether or not it's making you infertile.
We don't know whether or not it's giving you cancer or whether or not it is mutating your genes.
We just.
Can't get around to looking into it.
I've told you on a past episode of how much it just reminds me of the big tobacco campaign and how they were in cahoots with the doctors and they absolutely knew that it was causing cancer and they knew for years and the FDA said, oh no, there's no causal relation.
We don't know all of this language that they've used, all of the horrific things that have happened in American history with big pharma and they've never, ever, ever had to come to heel about it.
They've never had to have some big accounting.
Big tobacco did in the end get sued.
But they weren't the only ones that should have gotten sued.
Doctors were on their posters smoking cigarettes, telling pregnant women that it was fine for them to smoke cigarettes because, guess what?
They had the money.
Big Tobacco had the billions and billions and billions of dollars to be able to essentially pay off a criminal cartel that is operating as a government agency, as government agencies in lockstep.
And I believe that the CDC and the FDA are a part of a criminal big pharma cartel.
That is my belief.
I will never stray from that belief.
It is not just them, it is them working in Hoots with the vaccine manufacturers, and they are all conspiring for money.
They are conspiring for money, paying off the right people, and the people that are suffering because of it are our children, right?
Because none of this makes any sense.
The doctors, the hospitals, the big hospitals are all in on it, and it is the reason that I personally abstain from vaccinating my children.
But information is power.
I give you this information not because I want you to listen to me and to do as I say.
Don't do as I say.
I give this information because I want you to go on your own journey.
I want you to fact check everything that I say.
I want you to have conversations with your husband.
I want you to challenge your doctor.
I want you to feel confident enough to challenge your doctor, to ask a question, and to not be made to feel stupid and be given the non expert problem, as a friend of mine calls it, which is, well, you're not an expert, I'm an expert.
And so, therefore, you shouldn't feel comfortable asking me any questions.
This entire series is meant to be empowering, but also it should empower you.
To go on your own journey of research, use this information the same way that I used Robert F. Kennedy's Children's Health Defense website as the beginning of my journey.
And then I conducted my own research to come to very much the same conclusions that he came to.
All right, guys, that is all that we have on the HIV vaccine.
Feel definitely jump into the comments, ask me any questions that you want, share any experiences that you have had, and talk about meningitis, talk about your fears.
And it has been surprising to you below rates in the United States.
Do you really believe that?
The vaccine is what's stopping it, even though we know that every time someone dies in their vaccine, they just say, Oh, it was a different strand.
Okay, so that was a lot.
And yes, as discussed by us, there are other less common forms of meningitis that a person can get.
But the hip vaccine protects from the most common one that can kill babies and severely immunocompromised persons.
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I wanted to give her the space to get it all out, though.
Just to recap, it was not tested on people older than five or pregnant women for all the reasons we have discussed earlier.
But those include.
Being because as people age, they develop a natural resistance to HIB, but the vaccine accounts for the most crucial ages it can be deadly or damaging, and provides usually lifelong protection against the HIB.
It was not tested for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential because it doesn't contain any ingredients known to be carcinogenic or mutagenic in any singular or group formulation.
That's why it doesn't contain, in part or in whole, anything known to cause infertility.
It's made of some pretty safe stuff.
And now, we will address a new thing she went on at length about, and that is the FDA and cigarettes.
From the Wikipedia page, linked in the stack on the FDA and tobacco.
Excuse me, need some water before I go on with this one.
Here comes another history lesson, kids.
Okay.
So, Get it all out.
All right.
Regulation of tobacco by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration began in 2009 with the passage of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act by the United States Congress.
With this statute, the Food and Drug Administration was given the ability to regulate tobacco products.
Prior to 1996, the FDA played no role in the regulation of tobacco products, and regulations were controlled through a combination of state and congressional regulation.
Most state laws dealt with the sale of tobacco products, including the issue of selling to minors and licensing of distributors.
By 1950, most states had laws prohibiting the sale of tobacco products to minors, which at the time, the purchase age differed in each state.
Federal legislation enacted the Tobacco 21 in December 2019 to increase the minimum legal sales age for tobacco products in the United States.
In 2020, the federal government required states to set a minimum age of at least 21 years to purchase tobacco products, which was amended in all states by 2020.
In 1964, Surgeon General Luther Terry issued a report on smoking and health saying that tobacco causes lung cancer.
And it is a main contributor to bronchitis in 1964.
Members of the Federal Trade Commission read the report the day it was released and quickly proposed a mandatory cigarette label that warned caution.
Cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health and may cause death from cancer and other diseases.
However, legislation ultimately passed by Congress required a warning label with less dire language.
Caution.
Cigarette smoking may be hazardous to your health.
In 1965, the United States Congress passed the Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act, or the FCLAA, which required a health warning on all cigarette packs.
In 1965, Congress also provided the Federal Trade Commission authority under the FCLAA in relation to cigarette advertising.
In 1970, President Richard Nixon signed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act, which banned cigarette ads on the radio or television.
It also required an updated warning on the cigarette packages, which read Warning, the Surgeon General has determined that cigarette smoking is dangerous to your health.
In 1996, the FDA issued the FDA Rule, which asserted its authority over tobacco products and issued a rule intending to prevent and reduce tobacco use by children.
The intended regulations included prohibiting non face to face sales of tobacco products, prohibiting outdoor advertising of tobacco products near schools or playgrounds, imposing more stringent advertising regulations, and prohibiting brand name sponsorship, among other things.
After the regulations were issued in 1996, tobacco companies sued.
In the 2000 Supreme Court case, FDA v. Brown Williams and Tobacco Corp., the court ruled that Congress had not given the FDA authority over tobacco and tobacco marketing.
As a result, Congress was forced to provide explicit FDA authority to regulate tobacco, and this was finally accomplished via the passage of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act in 2009, which was nine years later.
Christ.
Yeah.
The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, also known as the FSPTC Act, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on June 22, 2009.
This bill changed the scope of tobacco policy in the United States by giving the FDA the ability to regulate tobacco products, similar to how it has regulated food and pharmaceuticals since the passing of the Pure Food and Drug Act in 1906.
President Barack Obama, who has himself struggled with smoking addiction, praised the law, saying that it will save American lives.
The Obama administration had previously voiced support for such an act, while former President George W. Bush had threatened to veto the law after it had passed the United States House of Representatives in 2008.
Much opposition to the law from Congress came from tobacco growing states such as North Carolina, whose representatives said they felt that the FDA was not fit to take on the large task of regulating tobacco products.
This Act gives the FDA comprehensive control on tobacco products for sale in the United States.
Much of the legislation is targeted specifically at cigarettes andor smokeless tobacco products.
The Act gives the FDA the power to require tobacco companies to submit an ingredients list of any products sold or imported in the United States.
It requires tobacco companies to make public the nicotine content of their products and to adopt standards of nicotine content and to reduce or eliminate other harmful substances present.
Also, to enlarge warnings on tobacco packaging so that they take up 50% of the front and back panel area.
And regulate the use of terms such as mild and light by requiring that tobacco products conform to certain standards regarding these terms.
And finally, create a tobacco products scientific advisory committee to help inform the FDA on issues relating to tobacco products.
The link included in the stack goes further on this, but I found a different source as well that covers the history of the FDA and tobacco prior to all of this.
From a paper titled The FDA versus Joe Camel An Analysis of the FDA's Attempt to Regulate Tobacco and Tobacco Products Under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
When we skip down past the introduction, which covers much of what we've discussed here already, we get into the history of tobacco regulation, and this is from that section.
The history of federal government and the regulation of tobacco and tobacco products began in 1914 with the pronouncement that tobacco not labeled for medicinal use was not subject to regulation by the predecessor of the FDA.
Since then, there have been numerous attempts, both legislative and legal, to place tobacco within the jurisdiction of the FDA.
All of these attempts have failed due to Congress's clear intent that tobacco not be regulated as a drug or drug delivery device under FDA jurisdiction.
The debate over federal regulation of tobacco was first addressed in 1914 when the FDA's predecessor, the Bureau of Chemistry and the Department of Agriculture,
announced that only tobacco which had been labeled for a medicinal purpose was subject to the scope of the Pure Food and Drugs Act of 1906, and that tobacco and its preparations which are not so labeled and are used for smoking or chewing or as snuff and not for medicinal purposes are not subject to the provisions of the Act.
This lack of jurisdiction was addressed in 1929 when legislation was introduced intending to place tobacco within the regulatory jurisdiction of the Bureau of Chemistry, which enforced the nation's drug laws.
Again, noting that the Bureau of Chemistry had no jurisdiction over tobacco which was not labeled as medicinal, Congress did not pass this bill.
The Bureau of Chemistry was replaced as the federal regulator of drugs in 1938 when the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act was enacted, creating the FDA.
Under the FDCA, the FDA was granted jurisdiction over any drugs intended to affect the structure or any function of the body, as well as any device which was intended to deliver such drug into the body.
At that time, repeating the stance of its predecessor, the FDA announced that it had no jurisdiction under the FDCA over any tobacco product as a drug, absent a claim that it was being sold for a medicinal purpose by the manufacturer.
This position was reiterated several times between 1940 and 1952.
In 1956, A bill was introduced to amend the FDCA to grant FDA regulatory authority over cigarettes.
This bill did not pass.
Similarly, in 1963, bills were introduced in both the House and the Senate to place all smoking products under the authority of the FDA.
The sponsor of the House bill acknowledged that the reason for the bill was that smoking products do not come under the protection of the FDA.
Like all previous attempts, neither of these bills passed.
In 1964, the Surgeon General issued a report which outlined the risk associated with smoking and tobacco use.
In response to the report, legislation was again introduced to grant the FDA the authority to regulate tobacco and cigarettes.
At this time, officers from both the Department of Health, Education and Welfare and the FDA testified in hearings before the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce that the FDA had no jurisdiction to regulate tobacco under the FDCA without a claim of medicinal purpose.
Ultimately, rather than granting the authority to regulate tobacco to the FDA, Congress enacted the Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act of 1965 in order to establish a comprehensive federal program to deal with labeling and advertising with respect to any relationship between smoking and health.
In the 30 years since the enactment of the FCLAA, several attempts to place tobacco under the regulatory authority of the FDA have been introduced in Congress.
None of these have passed, and the FDA has not legislatively been granted jurisdiction over tobacco and tobacco products.
In 1972 congressional hearings, FDA Commissioner Charles Edwards reaffirmed that the FDA did not have jurisdiction over tobacco, stating that the regulation of cigarettes is to be the domain of Congress, and labeling or banning cigarettes is a step that can be taken only by the Congress.
Any such move by the FDA would be inconsistent with the clear congressional intent.
At this time, the FDA also rejected a plan by the General Counsel of HEW, Wilmot Hastings, to initiate a test case in order to determine whether the FDA had jurisdiction over cigarettes.
In 1976, Congress enacted the Toxic Substances Control Act, empowering the EPA to regulate substances that might pose a threat to health.
The TSCA's definition of chemical substance included an exception for tobacco or any tobacco product.
Also in 1976, following a district court ruling which granted the Consumer Product Safety Commission jurisdiction to consider a petition to regulate cigarettes under the Federal Hazardous Substances Act, Congress amended that act to exclude tobacco and tobacco products from its definition of a hazardous substance.
In doing so, Congress stated that the clear mandate of Congress is that the basic regulation of tobacco and tobacco products is governed by the legislation dealing with the subject, the Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act of 1969, and that any further regulation in this sensitive and complex area must be reserved for specific congressional action.
Although Congress clearly stated its intent that it alone be the sole federal regulator of tobacco and tobacco products at these hearings, they were not the end of the debate over expansion of FDA jurisdiction to include tobacco.
Between 1977 and 1979, five bills were introduced into Congress, four in the House, one in the Senate, intending to grant jurisdiction over cigarettes to the FDA, and all of them failed.
Through 1976, all major attempts to place tobacco within the regulatory reach of the FDA had come from Congress itself.
A private initiative to do so was first attempted in 1977 when a citizens' watchdog group, Action on Smoking and Health, Ash, along with 13 other organizations, filed a petition with the FDA requesting that it assert jurisdiction over tobacco.
When the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, Donald Kennedy, rejected the petition, Ash filed suit in order to challenge that decision.
The chief issue in this case was Ash's contention that tobacco manufacturers were selling cigarettes with the sole intention of delivering a body altering drug, nicotine, therefore placing them within the regulatory jurisdiction of the FDA.
The Circuit Court affirmed the lower court's holding that Ash did not and could not establish the near exclusivity of consumer use of cigarettes with the intent to affect the structure.
Or any function of the body of man.
In holding that tobacco did not fall within the regulatory jurisdiction of the FDA, the Circuit Court stated that any expansion to the FDCA is the job of Congress.
However, Ash was not alone in being concerned with the hazards of tobacco use.
In fact, research and medical studies which have been released in the last two decades have left no doubt about the dangers of tobacco and tobacco product use.
These dangers include increased rates of cancer, heart attacks, and birth defects among users.
In response to these studies, as well as public awareness of these dangers, efforts to place tobacco within the jurisdictional authority of the FDA have been stepped up in recent years.
Since ASH, tobacco regulation has been addressed by Congress almost annually.
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However, there has been nothing to indicate any change in Congress's approach towards FDA regulation of tobacco and tobacco products.
In 1984, the House Committee on Energy and Commerce stated that federal laws that protect the public from hazardous food, drugs, and consumer products do not apply to cigarettes.
This declaration once again reaffirmed Congress's stance that tobacco and tobacco products do not fall within the regulatory reach of the FDA.
In 1986, Congress, addressing the separate regulatory need for smokeless tobacco products, enacted the Comprehensive Smokeless Tobacco Health Education Act.
This act was enacted in order to provide a federal regulatory scheme in order to regulate the manufacture, packaging, and distribution of smokeless tobacco products.
Significantly, the act does not grant any regulatory jurisdiction.
To the FDA regarding smokeless tobacco products.
Following the enactment of that act, efforts attempting to place tobacco and tobacco products within the purview of the FDA continued.
In 1987, 89, 92, and 1993, bills were introduced to create new regulatory categories for tobacco and tobacco products.
These categories would have placed tobacco and tobacco products under the regulatory umbrella of the FDA.
None of these bills were enacted.
As shown by the FDA's consistent refusal since 1938 to regulate nicotine as a drug, as well as Congress's clear intent that it not be allowed to do so, the release of Commissioner Kessler's proposed rule to expand FGA jurisdiction to include regulation of tobacco and tobacco products is both a complete reversal of its longstanding policy regarding such regulation and a unilateral move to grant itself jurisdiction where Congress has not seen fit to do so.
All of that that I just read was from 1996.
It would be another 13 years, which included the full run of the second presidential term from Bill Clinton and the entire run of George W. Bush into the first year of Obama until legislation would finally take hold to start reining this shit in.
People at the FDA tried a lot.
During many political administrations at every level possible, people tried.
The FDA, however, was not promoting smoking, cigarette companies were.
They were paying for advertisements and doing everything they could to get their products in people because of capitalism.
I'm no fan of how toothless the FDA currently is, but they really do deserve some slack being cut to them on their fight with tobacco.
Fucking absurd bullshit.
You know, as we just read in there, it seemed like they tried, and they also had given up at different points because they're like, look, we don't have any authority here.
Yeah.
You know, we don't have any authority here.
Congress has to give us the authority.
You know, we'd like the authority, but we don't fucking have it.
Yeah.
You know, it's like security clearance at any job.
Yeah.
You can sit there and go, man, I would love to be able to help you out, but that's above my clearance.
Yeah.
Don't get me wrong.
I'd love to have the clearance, but there's fuck all I can do about it unless my bosses tell me I have the clearance.
So, unless this is given to me, I can't help you.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
You know, I'm, like I said, I'm no fan of how toothless the FDA currently is, but they do deserve some slack.
Anyway, the report here linked goes on to discuss the framework of the bill from 1996.
It is worth a read for anyone so inclined.
I just thought that passage from Section 2 was worth hearing after her stupid fucking rant.
Warning.
The next clip is also four minutes long, and I expect we'll likely get this episode delisted from YouTube.
But honestly, we don't have a lot of traffic on YouTube anyway, so here we go.
Also, do want to jump into this news story because it is relevant.
So, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, in case you missed this in the news, he is currently in the process of suing Pfizer.
Yes, somebody that is a part of a company that has been a major player in this criminal cartel that I speak of, this big pharma criminal cartel.
And he is alleging Ken Paxton, that is.
That the pharmaceutical giant lied about the effectiveness of its COVID 19 vaccine.
I don't know how that can be considered an allegation at this point.
I think that's pretty credible, and the entire mainstream media backed up the claim that you got this vaccine and you will be protected.
In a press release from his office, he accused Pfizer of unlawfully misrepresenting the effectiveness of the company's COVID 19 vaccine and attempting to censor public discussion of the product.
Paxton said Pfizer's claim that its vaccine possessed 95% effectiveness against the infection was highly misleading.
Yeah, it was very misleading.
And again, it was echoed by journalists the world over.
And you were essentially considered a social pariah if you were a person that said that you weren't comfortable getting this vaccine because of how quickly it was rolled out.
The Republican Attorney General accused Pfizer of using misleading statistics, something that we have covered extensively on this show.
From initial trial results to unduly influence consumer choice by giving the impression that the vaccine was durable.
And Spicer's probably looking at this guy going, Yeah, that's what we always do for every vaccine.
Why is this one a problem?
That's what we do.
We create fear.
Everybody's scared.
Tell them that it's okay.
We have the solution.
All I have to do is roll up their sleeves.
And it works normally.
It only works because we have the mainstream media on our side.
What was different this time?
Well, the mainstream media is sort of facing a collapse, is what's happening right now.
There's a lot of alternative media.
There's people.
Like me, there's people like the Daily Wire, the ability to be able to get out and just have this discussion.
And it's still not easy.
They make it very difficult.
There's a reason why we never put this series up for free on YouTube because we knew that it would get hit with strikes.
Obviously, I've gotten tons of feedback from you guys telling me that you couldn't find the first three episodes for free that we put up on YouTube.
And I tried it myself.
I tried to type in Candace Owens, Shot in the Dark.
We put up three episodes free on my other YouTube channel.
It does not come up, right?
They will essentially blacklist you from being able to share this information.
And he is correct.
That they tried to censor public conversation.
You were not allowed to tweet.
If you yourself had a reaction right after you got the vaccine and you tweeted that, it would be labeled misinformation.
You could have your account locked out for 10 days.
You could have your account locked out forever.
I had my account locked out because I was talking about the vaccine.
And I believe it was something that one of the governors had said that was completely ridiculous.
This is how much money and influence the big pharma cartel has.
That they can stop you and I from communicating.
That this is the reason that we put this show behind a paywall because it's safe here.
I can say this stuff here and I don't have to worry about having my accounts locked out and taken down.
Paxton went on to accuse Pfizer of engaging in a campaign to silence and intimidate people who spoke out against the vaccine.
He said, We are pursuing justice for the people of Texas, many of whom were coerced by tyrannical vaccine mandates to take a defective product sold by lies.
That is absolutely amazing.
I am hopeful that every other state will follow suit.
This is possible to follow suit.
If you're living in Connecticut, it should be a reason that Ned Lamont should never hold political office ever again in his life.
I mean, the entire ecosystem of evil that took place to allow these lies and to coerce people into doing something that they were not necessarily comfortable with doing, right?
The fear campaign, all of it, the silencing of critics, as he says.
There are people that should not just be made to pay for it, but should go to prison for what took place in America and all over the world during the time of COVID.
So that is just an interesting news piece, and it's something that we will obviously follow on the show because it is relevant.
Yeah, all of that will probably get this episode cut from YouTube.
I expect to get a strike for allowing Candace to present medical misinformation.
It happened, I think, back on episode three of this particular series.
So, anyway, let's break this down.
Ken Paxton, a douche canoe from the National Embarrassment of Texas, the state attorney general there, tried suing Pfizer in November of 2023.
The Texas state court threw out the case on December 30th, 2023.
So, less than a month.
Well, a little over a month.
According to the Club Candace site, this episode aired in May of 2025, and I think that is wrong.
However, her third kid was born in late 2023, and this episode is from 2024 for sure.
So she had time to know that the Texas courts had thrown out the case on several grounds.
The dismissal has stayed in effect to this date, with Paxton bloviating about it at every opportunity, basically being a paper tiger.
Because he has no fucking case.
Not only is Pfizer protected under vaccine laws, but even Texas public health data backs up the company positions.
She had plenty of time to know all this at the time the episode aired.
It's just fucking useful for her pay pigs to masturbate too when she goes off.
Next up, viewer questions.
The first question or comment and her response could also easily get this episode pulled for medical misinformation as well.
All right, guys, now let's get into some of your comments on episode past.
The first comment, which is from Lafayette Home Renovations, is regarding I shared with you guys that the American Medical Association actually changed the diagnostic definition of polio to artificially deflate the number of polio cases, right?
So they wanted to think polio is going away, and they hadn't actually.
They reclassified it into a bunch of different diseases, among them Guillain Barre syndrome, which I now know how to say.
My French is getting more amazing.
Guillain Barre syndrome.
Barret, that's an accent aigu.
You know, I did take French for seven years and I was a little rusty, so thanks to the person for that comment.
Yeah, okay, so this one.
She didn't really read, but as we have covered before, they did not change the designation of polio.
That part is fucking bullshit, but I went on a small goose chase to see if I could find this Lafayette Home Renovations.
And it could have been one of a possible 150 places, so I stopped there.
Regardless, Candace doesn't show the comment on her show, nor read it, so I have no idea what it actually was.
I just know that I will have questions for any business with this name, Lafayette Home Renovations, going forward.
Next.
Next comment is pertaining to allergies and vaccines.
Aylwood writes, Hi, Candace.
We really need a full episode on the links between the rise in childhood allergies and vaccines.
We constantly hear from the older generations, you know, back in my day, we never had kids that had allergies.
It really makes you ponder.
What has changed since then?
I don't think it's any coincidence that the rise in vaccines and the rise in allergies have skyrocketed.
Thanks for the work that you do.
Your show has given us the confidence to push back and ask the questions about the health care for our five-month-old son that we felt we weren't able to ask with our other four children.
And as a consequence, now two of my children, Who are vaccinated as babies suffer from life threatening allergies.
We deserve answers to our questions if we're being coerced to inject things into our body.
So funny is, I was just actually talking about this with one of my producers, and we both have allergies.
I am convinced my allergies came from vaccines.
I remember the day that I got a bunch of vaccines, and then I was hospitalized within I mean, I was eight, but it must have been within weeks, and suddenly I had so many allergies.
And prior to that, I don't remember having any.
So it was some suite of vaccinations that I had to get when I was around.
Six to eight years old.
And I was saying, as I was pondering how this could happen, why kids have so many allergies today, I think it's because it's attacking our guts.
I mean, we talked about in an earlier episode how what's happening to your liver, what's happening to your gut.
Think about the fact that a newborn baby, these things are not developed.
They're quite literally not developed yet.
And you're putting so many poisonous toxins into the body, claiming that it's going to help them.
I think it's permanently injuring it.
I think it's permanently leading to poor gut health.
I think it's permanently leading to To a liver that is not able to do its job at its full capacity.
That's my theory.
I would definitely love to explore that more because I believe that to be the circumstance that people were healthier.
It's one of the first things that sent me down this journey as I started asking more questions.
Why is my generation, who had less vaccines, so much healthier than the generations that we see coming up?
If you're saying that more vaccines equals more health, then why are so many people unhealthy?
These are all fair questions for us to ask.
Eat some goddamn yogurt if your gut's that fucked up.
Up, or you know, you could always just do what I do, which I do not medically recommend, I just do it because I'm sick in the head.
Eat some very hot food, scorched earth your gut, and then eat some yogurt afterwards to soothe the pain.
Now, fuck that, no soothing, live with it.
So, yeah, it would be fair for someone to do the studies on allergies and vaccines and shit.
It would be fair if someone had not already done so scientifically many times, many times, many fucking times.
First, I want to say that this is the biggest reason why we do this show.
Because no doubt, you too have thicky, thicky dum dums in your life that mirror this shit, and you need to calm ammo.
To counter their idiocy, it's okay.
I see you and I understand the struggle.
On to the meat of this, though.
From the NIH, I am linking to a very thorough and very long report in the link stack that goes into detail on the long form studies that have been done on respiratory, digestive, and skin allergies conducted in multiple countries involving hundreds of thousands of persons and data points collected into massive data sets.
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That have tracked allergies and their development for over 100 years now.
This is a part of ongoing medical research.
Going over the linked report, the major contributing factors to allergies growing in size seem to be modern hygiene and sanitation, which seems to lead to certain resistances being not as developed in modern populations as they were in past populations.
However, this is huge.
Most of the people in those past populations that survived childhood without vaccines and modern sanitation did so among many dead or compromised persons that died from oral fecal infections like polio, respiratory infections like measles, and so on.
Candace obviously got it wrong by insinuating that vaccines are the cause of allergies.
Rather, it would seem that more people are showing up with allergies in modern societies because they are surviving due to vaccines, modern medicine, modern hygiene, and so on.
We have more people not dying from shit like polio and measles, so they are living long enough to present with other issues, but these are things they can live with that are typically inconveniences.
As for Candace having asthma, I want to refer back to her saying she was eight years old and also previously saying that she has a high allergy to rabbits.
She said previously that if a rabbit is anywhere near a place with a connected HVAC, she knows because her breathing gets nearly impossible.
We accept that reality on that level.
We accept that people have different allergies and different responses to even environmental factors.
I am deathly allergic to mold.
I could walk into a room.
I'm also deathly allergic to rabbits.
You could put a rabbit in a basement, a bunny in a basement, and I could walk into the house and let you know that it's in there because I will go into a full blown asthma attack.
How bizarre to just be like, well, Candace is lying because I'm next to the bunny, nothing is happening.
That is how we are treated when it comes to vaccines.
It's just one size fits all.
Okay, that was several episodes ago.
Candace has a rabbit allergy, and as we discussed at the time, that is absolutely a probable thing.
My theory on this, in regards to her saying that she got a bunch of vaccines and then several weeks later she had a horrible asthma attack, is that there's a lot more that she isn't saying that I have known about for some time and we have discussed on this show before.
Namely, Candace spent about 10 years in her grandparents' home, from about the age of nine until she left just after high school for the University of Rhode Island.
But prior to that, Prior to nine years old ish, her and her siblings were staying with their parents in a multi story walk up in a bad neighborhood in Stamford, Connecticut.
Her parents were getting divorced around this time.
My theory, if this asthma attack story is true, given what we know for certain here, is that her parents living in an old building, it likely had a sort of shared HVAC system.
And if a neighbor was raising rabbits, even as pets, The dander could have easily gotten into the system and affected her, which would have definitely made the move to a place without that as a necessary move immediately.
If the parents were already divorcing, this would have been a no brainer at the time and would have likely carried forward with any future moving choices.
It's just a theory, but it's the best one I have to put any kind of truth to this story.
Because vaccines do not, in fact, cause allergies, and asthma side effects are short term for the vaccines where they have been recorded as possible.
Aftermarket side effects and not just listed as boilerplate items that are always general concerns like Gurain Barre syndrome.
Next up.
Also, being in an old building, period.
Stanford, Connecticut.
I'm not geographing.
Connecticut's one of those small states on the coast, right?
Literally in New England, yes.
Yeah.
There's a fair chance that there's just some mold ambiently growing there because it's a coastal state.
It's a coastal state.
It was an old building.
I don't want to give up too much about it.
But yeah, it was an old building and it had had renovations after her family had left.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And, you know, in those kinds of renovations, it could have been literally anything.
Like I said, though, my best guess is that, you know, she had all these issues and then goes into an asthma attack.
No one knows why.
You go to the hospital, you go home, it hits again.
Okay, well, you know, you start narrowing shit down.
And yeah, if somebody in the building was raising rabbits, even it's like a pet rabbit.
Yeah.
If she is really that affected by it, it's quite possible that somebody raising rabbits in the building, parents are already getting divorced.
I doubt it was a shock to the kids.
Yeah.
You know, and they go and move in with their grandparents, with their father.
Like, you know, and yeah, it's like, no, your fucking asthma allergy that you've carried with you since childhood was probably developed in this situation.
Yeah.
You know, like, well, not asthma allergy, but, you know, asthma from an allergy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, I'm constantly reminded that these people do not play video games in any regard because the science of a society that, you know, can achieve not having to worry about infection is fucking referenced in Mass Effect, of all games, I got reminded about earlier today with a fucking YouTube short.
Of all things, where the lady alien who has the clean suit she has to wear everywhere.
Yeah, Tali Zora.
Yeah.
When you're in one of the elevator conversations, she gets asked, So, why do you always have to wear that suit?
She goes, Well, due to the extreme cleanliness of my home planet, anybody who leaves the bubble has to wear one of these.
Otherwise, we'll die from just existing in any other environment.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, yeah, it's, you know.
It's referenced in so many goddamn things, just the basics of the science alone.
Yeah, like, you can overdo it, and, you know, there's a lot of modern life where we probably have overdone things here and there, but, like.
King Henry V's, sorry, VIII's son.
Yeah, I mean, well, you know, it's.
Like I said, it's come down to.
Yeah, your grandparents didn't know people who had all these allergies because a lot of people died.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of people died.
Like, if you didn't die from, you know, the whatever inhaled fucking virus, yeah, maybe the odds of you getting an inhaled, you know, allergy were lower.
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It certainly seems to be that way.
Like, the difference in numbers is.
Fucking vast.
Like in some cases, there were 3% of the population that would have an allergy, like at whatever time, you know, 50 years ago, up to like 42% of that same allergy across time.
But authors of studies have noted we have more people, and when your population is as much higher as it is, especially since World War II, when you have a global population number that's higher in all regards, you're going to see more.
You know, variances.
You're going to see more allergies.
You're going to see more physical problems.
So, yeah, it's that's just life, man.
But here we go.
Here's the next one.
Regarding tetanus, Little Roots Ranch writes I get that for the average person.
I am a farmer and I cut myself daily on rusty anything blackberries, nails, turkey claws, and such.
LOL.
I do get the tetanus shot and I get it at the farmer interval every five years.
I think the most important thing is letting people decide what feels right for them.
A lot of people don't live on the land.
Yeah, absolutely.
I say that every episode.
You have to decide.
What works right for you, and more information is more power.
I have heard people say that if you do actually get tetanus, you need to get the tetanus toxoid.
I have to think what the name was, but we covered it in an earlier episode.
But if you listen to all that information and you say, I still want to get a tetanus shot, do it.
And that is the beauty of being an adult and being able to make decisions and being able to assess the risks yourself.
That is what we want people to actually be able to meaningfully assess risks rather than do things out of an arbitrary fear.
And finally, yeah, so I looked into this commenter here, Little Roots Ranch.
The only one I could find, well, I can't prove that they were the commenter here, so I won't share it on the link stack.
But there is a real farm business that has this name.
And they have a really shitty website that, if you click on the only one I could find, it links back to itself from some general ass farm like website that has a fuck ton of adverts.
So.
That all said, Candace can present an even handed voice here near the end, but I have played almost every second of this goddamn series to this point, with the exception being most of her stupid intro and end theme music that her people stole without credit, given to a musician on YouTube assets.
So, this audience, and me, and Matthew at least know better.
Candace has definitely spent a large portion of her time in conservative media telling people in all kinds of ways to not get vaccines.
My best guess on why she would say this regarding the tetanus vax is that she probably got a lot of pushback on it behind the scenes after doing that entire bullshit episode on it many episodes back.
Next.
As a last comment regarding the TDAP vaccine, the fierce yogi writes, Yeah, and they want women to take it for each pregnancy.
I took it for the first time, and my babes are 15 months apart, and they wanted me to take it again.
I laughed and said, No way.
How effing ridiculous.
Just in case, they say.
And by the way, they didn't even ask me, but assumed and came in ready to jab me.
When I said no, I could tell that I was an extreme outlier, and later found out they put it in my chart under problem patient.
Yes, you should get a second pax.
So before we move on to the last clip, we need to pause on this one.
I looked up the cause for this, and yes, pregnant women are encouraged and expected to get a TDAP.
Tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis for every pregnancy.
Because, and you would expect the pro life crowd that wants to force pregnant persons to give birth, you would expect them to know and celebrate that the vaccine benefits pass through from mother to fetus to child after birth and help keep the kid or kids safer in the period between being born and when they can be safely dosed with vaccines.
The doctors.
Are trying to keep the kid from getting pertussis or tetanus or diphtheria before they can be fully protected in the most vulnerable part of their lives.
CDC link provided in the stack.
It does not matter how close the kids are between births or how far apart.
I know it is expecting a lot for these pro life shitfucks to actually understand basic science, but it always pisses me.
The fuck off.
Now, the last goddamn clip.
Oh my gosh, is there a chart, the category for problem patient?
That means every.
I'm going to ask to see my charts because if you are a problem patient, I have got to be worse.
There's got to be like a stronger word for a problem.
Like, I don't know, you guys tell me what it is, but I am definitely a problem patient for sure.
Problem mom, problem parent, problem patient.
And I take great pride in being that way because, you know, it's frustrating for them to just not be listened to, to not have.
This authority, you know, and I'm the main authority.
You listen to me and don't ask me any questions.
That is not the sign of a healthy relationship.
Any doctor that is meaningfully trying to help you will want you to ask questions.
And by the way, they'll also admit when they don't know something the power of that.
I am so much more willing to trust one if they say, you know what, I'm not actually sure.
I need to brush up on that.
Let me read into it and I'll get back to you.
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Great.
Love that.
Getting angry when you ask a question, writing down problem patient that sounds like a temper tantrum.
That's a problem doctor.
In my book, all right, guys, that is all the time that we have for today.
As always, you can follow our Instagram page, the handle is at shopmedrtw.
And thank you guys so much.
We will definitely see you next time.
Free at last, good lord!
Yeah, I think that this last clip is just another useful thing if anyone is out there building a case against her for any reason whatsoever.
Proud to be a problem patient that has a history, by the way, of telling others to get combative on medical professionals and has shared stories of her doing it herself.
But now we have come to the time where we get to drink something stupid.
What do we got?
As I was corrected, it is a Haitian banana soda.
Now, we did a banana soda from another island theme previously.
I would say the results of that were mixed.
Yeah, it was banana y.
It honestly tasted like the Mike and Ike banana fucking candies.
Yeah.
But this one is, I mean, it's got French on it.
Yeah, because it's from Haiti.
Yeah.
There was something on here that I saw.
Oh, just because it is kind of a funny thing on here.
Not.
A significant source of vitamin D, calcium, iron, or oh, sorry, and potassium.
Yeah, just in case anybody was trying to get around needing those by drinking bottles upon bottles of this.
Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised.
What's that?
Yeah, the five cent, ten cent, the fact that we aren't.
Oh, that's just a bottle deposit thing.
Yeah, oh, does it actually twist?
Whoa, oh, and it's actually busy when the twisty came off.
Yeah.
Got a nice four.
Nice.
Okay.
It is yellow.
It's got yellow five and yellow six in it.
Oh, it, um, I'm going to say it smells better than the other one did.
Like, wow, that's got a really good aroma to it.
I think Haiti might have knocked one out of the park here.
Holy shit.
Kind of smells like proper banana bread.
Yeah, it does.
Goddamn.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
Fuck, that's good.
Wow.
Way to go, Haiti.
Right?
What the fuck?
Goddamn.
That's incredibly good.
That's goddamn.
Goddamn.
Let me see the bottle.
What's this shit called?
Let's see it.
Okay.
It is C'est Delicious Banana Soda from Sac Pazé.
And it comes from Port au Prince.
It's bottled in the USA by a company in Miami, Kingston, Miami Trading Company.
Oh, well, that's.
Oh, Kingston's Jamaica.
Okay.
Still, um, ah, damn.
That's really good.
Where did they get this?
Like.
I don't remember.
We'll have to ask them.
Oh.
Dragon Star.
Yeah.
They got a Dragon Star.
I was going to say, they.
They went and bought some Indian herbs.
For those of you not in the know, Dragonstar is this incredible Asian supermarket that we have here.
There's only two locations, but they're huge.
They're so big.
They're so good.
Every type of Asian cuisine that I've ever heard of is represented in their aisles.
And they have an excellent deli that he got his first banh mi sandwich at.
Yeah.
They made like right there.
Like they took like.
Like bread and fresh, good, delicious, cheap bread.
Oh, God, yeah.
And they cut it for him, and he was just like, every time the woman just pointed something, he was like, Yes.
He was super hungry.
He's like, Yes, yes.
Man, just load me up.
Just fuck me up, you know?
And I don't even know what anything out of it was except for the bacon, the ham, and the fucking.
Not Brussels sprouts.
That's not the right word.
I know there was spinach on there.
There was regular sprouts on there, too.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know what any of the sauces were that she put on there, but fuck me, I don't care.
It was a good fucking sandwich, and I was very sad when I only ate half of it, and I was like, oh, I'll have the other half tomorrow.
And then I went to go at it, and my bread was soggy, and I was like, oh, I should have expected that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fresh bread.
It's fresh bread, no bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, Dragon Star fucking rocks.
And.
I want more of that fucking soda.
My God.
That was good shit.
Now that we're talking about Bon Me, I could go for a fucking Bon Me.
Fuck me.
We live in Minneapolis.
There's like a thousand Vietnamese places.
Yeah, but.
I don't think any of them are going to be delivering at midnight, though.
No, no, not like that.
They're sensible people that are probably in bed.
It is currently 12 09.
So, yeah, most of y'all should have this in your podcast feeds.
Oh, hi, Squish.
Podcast Kitty Squishy has entered the chat.
She's like, Where is my people to give me scritches and hugs?
Okay, there we go.
But, yeah, so that'll be it for now.
Thank you all, everybody.
And hopefully, I will have another one cracked up here in the next couple of weeks.