Episode 32 - A Shot In The Dark Part 6 - Rotavirus Vaccine
In this Episode, Candace talks confidently and incorrectly about the Rotavirus Vaccine. She focuses on just one of them almost exclusively, although there are two available. There is a bonus theme song at the end, and we try an interesting soda near the end that we got from an awesome little store here called Paradise Market, in Hopkins, MN. Below are the episode links we mentioned.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/spotlight/rotavirus/109727
FDA Insert For Rotateq
https://www.fda.gov/media/75718/download
FDA Insert For Rotarix
https://www.fda.gov/media/75726/download
Candace’s Patreon Link
Diarrhea (she shared this link twice for different things)
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/928598-overview#a1
Behind the Bastards link on the Autism Cure Industry
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TmcZ_ZQQrcc&pp=4gcMEgpwZXJwbGV4aXR5
Explanation of George Farmer's type of Bachelor Degree (BTh) from Oxford, Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Theology
In the heart of the struggle, we raise our voice Candace speaks boldly, it's her chosen choice With words like daggers,
sharp and clear She'll twist the tail, dismiss the fear Against the odds, the truth lays out But does she care is it all just air?
Gish gala girl, weaving words with no soul Spinning stories, losing track of the home While infants suffer and families mourn She dances
around, like seraphic's worn Rotavirus lingers, a shadow on the own When rights are traded, the battle's just begun
She'll stand and mock as the babies cry A bit of laughter echoing, asking why Tears from parents, heartache and dread But will her conscience break or stay misaligned?
Kissed out a girl weaving words with no soul Spinning stories, losing track of the whole While infants suffer and families mourn She dances around, backs her effets ward In this game of rhetoric, who will remain?
Dish gallop girl, a joker in pain Okay, hello everybody.
Welcome to episode 32 of Gish Gallop Girl.
I am your main researcher host, Thomas Anderson, and with me is...
As always.
Squish.
And Squish Cat.
She's in here being nice right now.
Yeah.
For now.
Let her be what she says.
She's not trying to, like, rub their face on the microphone and shit.
At any rate, so, yeah, this has been a crazy last two weeks, but we are still in...
We're going to be in a shot in the dark for some time.
Yeah.
There are 20 entire episodes of this.
And we are in part 6. I'm real glad that I misunderstood you, I think, or misheard you, at least, from here.
Because the other day when you were talking about this in the living room, I thought you said that there were 30?
Oh, God, no.
No, no, no, no.
Thank God.
No, no, no, no, no.
I might have said this was our 32nd episode, but yeah, definitely not 30 of these.
Not yet.
Give it time.
Candice is dumb.
What you heard just now was the more folksy version of the Donna AI creating the theme song for this week.
You may have heard rotavirus in there, because we are talking about the rotavirus vaccine today.
But I'm going to do a bonus thing.
The Donna AI app.
And look, y 'all can come at me if you want to about using AI for theme songs.
I hear your concerns, but until some living human offers me a theme song for free because I can't afford to pay for shit, I'm going to keep using the AI app.
So if you have any sort of musical talent and you want to throw me a song, well, the email address is very easy.
It's thomasanderson@gmail.com.
At any rate...
Is there anything you want to talk about before we get into this?
I mean, there's what happened at the fucking George Floyd Square.
Oh, yes, yes.
Yeah, let's talk about that real briefly, because we live in Minneapolis, and an event happened yesterday that made the national news.
If you've been on Reddit at all, you may have heard about this.
It wasn't at George Floyd Square, but it was a block or two away.
Okay.
But that neighborhood is geared up for pressure.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So yeah, there's a really good local taco shop over there, a taqueria, and the Homeland Security decided it would be a good idea in Minneapolis, near George Floyd Square to perform a raid on this taco shop in full battle rattle with the fucking...
APC.
And have all these dudes show up with outfits that just said Homeland Security.
Their faces were covered.
Like, full balacala.
Full, like, head covering.
Full battle.
Like, these dudes pile out.
Now, like I said, this is a neighborhood where everybody saw these guys coming from several blocks away.
Yeah.
And the neighborhood converged.
The cops weren't told.
The local cops weren't told.
The Minneapolis Police Department had to show up to keep shit civil.
Yeah.
There's tons of videos about this from people that were there.
They've uploaded a ton of them.
I'm glad nobody was killed.
Yeah.
The Homeland agents did use mace on one person.
And they were seen to, as far as I'm aware.
But yeah, that was real fucking dumb.
And I was responding to people on Reddit who were trying to defend this.
Like, oh, well, you know, you don't know what was going on there.
It's like, dude.
These idiots didn't tell the local cops and they showed up in full battle gear right now?
When you've got groups doing that and taking people off the streets?
In the name of immigration and customs enforcement?
No.
There was a thousand other ways to go about this smarter.
So many other ways.
They chose the most bullshit path.
They deserve the public outcry that they got.
Fuck them people.
I'm here.
Yes, go sit in the lab, squishy.
But yeah, so...
There we go.
There we go.
Yep, right there in the boat.
But yeah, so...
Yeah.
Have they shown up like that and killed a bystander?
Mm-hmm.
They would have found out how much people don't give a shit about their guns.
Yeah.
They would have got swarmed.
Yeah.
Yeah, because that neighborhood takes no fucks from anybody.
Yeah, no, no.
They've already been tear gassed one too many times.
Well, what was funny was that they had the new Sonic crowd control guns.
Yeah.
Well, you know how you defeat those?
Here's a pro tip.
Cardboard.
Yeah, yeah.
You can approach those things with a cardboard shield.
And B. Mostly fine.
Millions of dollars of technology.
Defeated by fucking cardboard.
That's something that the Aussies...
And everybody was just kind of like, Australia, why the fuck did you send them paper airplane IEDs?
They're like, You just give them a real good throw and they're undetectable by everything.
And when they hit their target, they can take out a tank.
They're like, why did you guys develop these?
Now, you know what Ukraine did recently in the war?
You know, Putin's obviously trying to slow walk the whole peace process and riding it out as long as he can.
Yeah.
Well, Zelensky...
And Ukraine used their drone army to attack nuclear sites in Russia and destroy infrastructure and airports and shit.
They did a blitzkrieg just overnight.
And it was such a brilliant move that it's now made it into the annals of war history as a tactic that they're trying to figure out, how the fuck did they pull this off?
Given the fact that they have a...
The fucking...
There was an article that got made into a Cyberpunk 2077 meme because when you first launch up the game, It's got a news anchor that's kind of going through all of the shit of the world.
Yeah.
One of the things that he mentions is hackers...
Sorry, net runners poking holes in the power grid while the...
fucking...
Just all over the place.
It's like, how in the fuck do you let your system be just overrun?
I get there's quite a few of them and they're very skilled, but how the fuck?
I mean, honestly, anybody who seriously studies Kali Linux, for any length of time, can have a leg up on so many cybersecurity people.
And that's a free suite of tools.
And there are tons of free instructional materials on the internet for it.
I mean, I once built a phone that, I don't even remember, I had a Google Pixel phone that I turned into a Kali device for a while.
Yeah, I remember you.
Yeah, it was a used Google Pixel.
I spent like $40 on it.
So when it died, I was like, yeah, fuck it.
It was fun.
It was a nice toy.
But, yeah, I had turned that into a Kali Internet device, NetHunter.
And I kept it offline.
Yeah.
But I could use that thing to scan so much shit.
And the Jacksonville Police Department...
I could barely see these guys, and I had the radio tuned all the way up on it, and I could tell you the modem names in their cars.
And there was always an option to scan and attack, and I was like, no, I shouldn't do that second part.
I don't think scanning's right right now.
I probably shouldn't do the second thing.
Yeah, there were so many tools in that thing.
I would just war drive, which is legal.
War driving is totally legal.
Where you just drive around and you see what networks are available in an area, you can just map them out.
That is a legal thing that you can do.
I spent a lot of time making sure that was a legal thing you could do.
It's a legal thing in all 50 states.
Maybe not on a military base.
Don't test me on that.
I could see quite a bit.
There's a lot of hidden networks that you don't know about all over the place.
You could see them all with the right tool.
It's an excellent pen testing suite.
There was a guy who, and I saw this earlier, he posted up online.
I hacked into the, fuck, I don't remember what government he said it was.
Yeah.
But he hacked into their system and found out that one of their ships offshore was still using a default password for its, like, missile safety.
Oh, Jesus.
So he shot them an email from within their own system saying, Hey, y 'all.
Random person here.
Just wanted you to know that this ship with these missiles has this password.
You might change that.
And they sent back an email to that email that said, Thank you, Concerned Citizen.
Could you please send us your address so we can send you a shirt?
And he was like, fuck it.
So he gave them his address.
And he spent weeks anticipating opening his mailbox and finding a bomb.
Or a pair of handcuffs.
One day, a box arrived at his door.
He opened it up, and it says on it, I hacked into ex-government web...
Hacked into ex-government and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.
That's funny.
That's great.
It's like that, that, that, Lucky they didn't send our state department to his front door.
Yeah.
Ugh.
But yeah, so...
So, yeah, this is part six of the series, A Shot in the Dark, focusing on the rotavirus vaccine.
Yeah, when I wrote this, when I started writing this, there had been no worthy news in Candace land.
I'm just leaving that there in case something developed.
And it didn't.
Except that she seems to be sharing hosting duties with Ian Carroll.
Who's Ian Carroll?
He was the guy who I had you look up some time ago, because I was like, is this Doctor, like, whoever, like, the one who had, like, a Twitch channel that he lost?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Doctor Disrespect, yeah.
That was it, yeah.
Yeah, no, he just looks a lot like the guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember that now, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, she's had him on, like, and...
The Candace Owen subreddit.
And people do not like him.
The core Candace stans do not like this dude.
Because he's not like her at all.
But she went and did the Infowars Alex Jones trick of I'll get somebody that kind of covers the same shit but isn't nearly as good at this as I am.
I have a feeling she scouted.
Like, for that kind of person.
But anyway, yeah, right off the top in this episode, Candice's audio sucks.
Big ups and downs.
I was tempted to run it through a leveler, but I like to keep these as is because I already edit out the music on the ends and I cut the clips, so I don't want to be accused of editing further.
That all said, this episode is going to cover shit.
Like, a lot of shit talk.
Okay.
As in human fecal matter shit.
Okay, that kind of shit.
I thought you were talking about shit talk as in the social thing.
No, no, no.
You've all been warned.
So, on with the first clip.
At least it's not PEMS.
Let's start with the story.
So there's a woman, her name was Ruth Bishop.
She was an Australian virologist, and her and her colleagues were hanging out in 1973.
Having a good time, and they discovered a virus particle that existed in the intestinal tissue of children with diarrhea.
So they observed this little particle, and they go, ah, and they call it rhoda.
Rhoda in Latin means wheel, and they gave it that name because it looked like a wheel.
So by 1980, they determined that it was the most common cause of severe gastroenteritis in infants and in young children.
Okay, there we go.
We know diarrhea.
It's virus.
It's the rotoparticle.
Let's give it a name.
Cool.
Fast forward to 1998, and they premiere a vaccine for rotavirus.
So 1998, by the way, that's like I'm alive, you know, for that.
1989, this is a very recent, this is a newer vaccine, and we already have babies, infants, that are getting this three times orally.
So why did they premiere this vaccine in 1998?
Well, they said because they, up to 500,000 children worldwide, are dying from diarrheal death.
So I want to just take a pause right there and show you where we got that stat.
Okay, so to start with, the rotavirus vaccine can be one of two different vaccines.
One is done in three oral doses.
The other is in two oral doses.
The first is Rotatech, given at two, four, and six months of age.
And the second is Rotarix, given at two and four months of age on the vaccine schedule.
The first dose should be given before 15 weeks of age, and the last dose should be taken no more than 8 months of age.
It is never injected.
It is always given orally.
There was another one, which she was talking about there.
The first one was called RhodaShield, but a rare adverse event called intussusception led to it being pulled.
Intussusception is a rare but serious form of bowel obstruction.
Early data showed that it could happen in one or two infants per every 10,000 vaccinated, usually about one or two weeks after the first dose.
So that one was pulled from use around, you know, in 1999.
We're going to get into that one a little bit more later.
But now, before we allow Candice to go on, I'd like to talk about how this vaccine was developed and how it works, mostly because I think it's very cool.
Anyway, Ruth Bishop was a virologist, studying this as a serious pursuit, along with other researchers around the world.
For Candace to say some bullshit like they were just hanging out really does make this sound like it wasn't a big deal when it absolutely was, and in fact it's still a major issue.
In her simplistic way, however, she did get it right that the virus itself was called Rhoda because it resembles a wheel.
It was determined that Rhoda virus was the major cause of worldwide rich and poor hospitalizations of children with severe diarrhea.
We're talking about painful gut and intestine-wrecking issues that can lead to death if not treated.
Rotavirus was identified as the leading cause.
You know?
Yeah.
I was going to say, in the casual way that she says that they were just hanging out, my brain just went, yes, they discovered diuretic bacteria in a pool.
Yeah.
I don't know why my brain was thinking pool party.
For me, I'm thinking about like a bar.
Oh, yeah.
You have just a bunch of, like, science people sitting around a bar just, like, just shooting the shit and, like, somebody sees, like, a fucking Cheeto and they're like, ah, you know.
That's some Big Bang Theory type bullshit.
A fucking Cheeto.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
I haven't had Cheetos in a while.
Okay.
Next clip.
Of course, I only use trusted, verified sources, and you can see it right there.
500 deaths among children annually worldwide.
And why do I love the way that is written?
Because it's just so CDC.
It really doesn't have much information, and it's sort of meant to scare you.
Why would they go and extend and tell you worldwide deaths as opposed to looking at your country, right?
So whenever you see the geographical expansion, So rather than looking at, let's say, the United States or looking at just Australia, let's take a look and say all over the world how many kids are dying of diarrheal deaths and they came up with this number.
Very scary, right?
500,000 deaths of children from diarrhea.
Again, should instantly make you pause, also because they're using the word up to 500,000 deaths, so that gives them a lot of leeway there.
So I wanted to first take a dive and ask the most important question, which is how many children in the United States?
That would be relevant.
I'm an American citizen and if you're listening to this podcast and you live in the UK, you know, these are going to be countries that are similar, have a similar rate of infection, right?
We're not going to look at Africa.
Geographical expansion means suddenly we are looking at Africa and we're going to start comparing the health of children from poor African countries that don't have running water perhaps to children in the United States.
Okay, Candice, let's do that.
Candice is going to engage in a lot of liar's statistics here in this episode.
This is among the first.
First, rotavirus itself causes about 185,000 to 215 deaths each year, with most of that in the developing world.
Prior to widespread vaccination, that number was actually estimated at over 500,000.
The majority of the deaths that occur from this now happen in low- to middle-income countries with limited access to vaccines and medical care.
In America, the virus itself was deemed responsible for anywhere from 20 to 60 deaths per year.
But I looked beyond the death numbers at what kind of life awaits a person that survives having the virus.
While viral reinfections are rare, they do happen.
In such cases, a host of very bad things are on the horizon.
Reinfection causes severe dehydration, and when a child is developing, that can lead to stunted growth in the body, malnutrition issues, So, next.
Yeah.
So how many children in the United States died from diarrhea before the vaccine, before the introduction of the vaccine in 1998?
And here we have the answer.
Now, if you hit this link yourself, it's going to tell you that you have to register, of course, because for information you have to register.
But you can actually see if you read it right from the top, I did register.
So if I'm seeing more than you, it's because I've registered it.
But they give you the numbers right away.
From 1992 to 1998, so those are pre-vaccine years in the United States, an average of 369 diarrhea-associated deaths per year for children.
That's not a scary number, right?
Suddenly you're like, okay, we went from 500,000 that they were talking about and now I'm looking where I live and 369, very interesting way to phrase it, by the way, diarrhea-associated deaths per year occurred among children that were aged 1 to 59 months between the years of 1992 and 1998.
So, yeah.
Works out to about, by the way, these are some rough estimates for you guys, the population of children in 1998 is approximately 19 million.
So that means that if you were a child in 1998, you had a.0019% chance of dying of a diarrhea-associated death, whatever that means.
Another reason why this one really gets me is because, first and foremost, I didn't have to get this vaccine, right?
And so you just ask yourself this simple question.
How many kids did you know growing up that died of diarrhea?
It's a question for you guys.
How many kids do you know that died of diarrhea?
Like, what in the neighborhood were you just like, oh, this kid got diarrhea, he just died?
We just died last night because he had diarrhea.
It's like it doesn't even register in your brain as a plausibility that this was a big problem.
We grew up, tons of things going on.
This was not a major issue.
Go ask your parents.
Say, hey, mom, just out of curiosity.
How many kids do you know, infants in particular, that just were dying of diarrhea in the 90s?
And they will look at you like you have 22 heads, and the majority of them will have no idea what the coronavirus even is, because again, this didn't exist.
This one just came, it arrived, and now all of a sudden your infant needs three doses of this.
There you go, say something.
Firstly, as a child, while Bobby Huggie didn't shit himself to death.
No, nobody mentions that.
Yeah, that's...
It's so weird.
He was so dry.
like no that doesn't I tested the viscosity of that shit last week, and it was all right.
So, yeah, we just talked about this, but Candace downplaying how serious this is, or how serious it can be, shows a complete lack of understanding here.
Children, especially infants and toddlers, are at risk of getting this from other people.
Rotavirus spreads by people handling any amount of fecal matter who then do not completely sanitize their hands or contact surfaces.
Rotavirus can reside on surfaces for days or weeks, depending on various factors, and it's a real problem in places where many kids are present, such as daycare centers, and, unfortunately, places where food is being served.
It can be transmitted before symptoms appear and for several days after symptoms resolve in a host.
Anyone that has ever had a young child in school or daycare knows that the places are frequently germ factories.
Your home might be as clean as possible and your family might be as clean as possible, but the same cannot be said for or expected of everyone else.
This vaccine helps guard against the unknowns of life And now, Candace will make a case for it from her own life.
Before we start My one friend works At a fucking Clinic for Autistic kids and the such And that clinic She has gotten more sick from working there than working at a fucking bar.
Yeah.
I believe it.
Because so many people will just bring in their sick germ-infested kids and just go, well, we gave them some tile and all to help deal with their headache and that was it.
And she's like, no, you have to keep them at home.
Yeah.
And give them medicine.
So she has gotten sick a lot working there.
Yeah.
She can tell you, it's a fucking germ factory.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Here's the next clip.
Personally for me, when I think about a two to six month period with my child, and maybe some of you guys have a different experience, but he was in a permanent state of what I would call diarrhea.
I mean, he was only consuming breast milk, so there's no solids going into his system.
Particularly my child, which I thought was fascinating.
He would have what me and my husband would refer to as volcano poos, where he would just open his diaper.
I know this is way too much information, but it doesn't matter because this is a parenting podcast.
And he would just literally just poo and poo and poo and poo and poo.
It would just keep coming out.
And we would just be amazed at how much liquid was inside of him.
And it makes sense because all he was consuming was a liquid diet.
That's not a good sign, Candice.
No, that is not.
Yeah.
It strikes children on formula and breast milk almost equally, with breastfed infants having a slight edge of protection against it.
But a baby on a straight liquid diet of breast milk will have watery and loose formed stool, while an infant on formula will have firmer stool that can resemble a tan paste like peanut butter.
An infant with volcano poo as she puts it is going through something rough.
Next.
What is the realistic risk of you dying from diarrhea?
Why would anybody in the entire world be dying of diarrhea?
Well, the obvious answer is that diarrhea is dehydrating, right?
Obviously, I could imagine in nations and countries and in regions where they don't have running water, where they don't have access to clean water, when you get diarrhea, it becomes a death sentence because you're not able to hydrate your body in a responsible way.
But in nations like we live in, This is not going to be a big issue, of course, because we know that when you are experiencing diarrhea, you have to drink more water.
And just so you know, I'm not getting this out of my head.
You can observe this right on the World Health Organization's website.
And so we can look today, by the way, of how many kids are dying from diarrhea deaths today.
And this is again, It says it right here on their website.
In 2019, diarrheal disease, again, this is global, was responsible for the deaths of 370,000 children in 2019, so not really much of a difference.
And if you look at a little further down in that second paragraph, it says, in the past, for most children, severe dehydration and fluid loss were the main causes of dying from diarrhea.
So again, I have to ask you as a parent, are you fearful that you won't be able to give your child water if they get diarrhea?
I guess that's the first question.
The second question that I would have to ask you as a parent, and again, I could have had a different experience, but was your child, I don't know, how would you even differentiate between your child having diarrhea and just what to me was a regular infant poo for the first six months of his life until we started introducing solids?
This was kind of like the permanent circumstance.
Candace keeps on proving that she really should have taken a mothering class or something before having that first kid.
Maybe she still should, even being on baby number four.
How would you differentiate between sickness and health?
Jesus, lots of ways.
Yeah.
The symptoms are very well known, and you can look them up easily.
The most telling would be that the kid has diarrhea, but also sunken skin.
They're lethargic.
Fever.
Dry mouth.
I mean, come on.
And again, this is a virus that is spread via contact with an infected person or surface.
Not necessarily through bad water.
So, next up.
Just immediately sort of defy common sense here.
If you're not living in an impoverished nation, you'll see that over and over again on different websites that they keep talking about how impoverished nations really suffer from diarrhea.
Polices that have access to clean water suffer from diarrhea.
And again, that is the reason why the CDC found it necessary to expand the geographical region to even discuss this, because no parent would be fearful of just 300 and And I'm sure in those circumstances, these were extreme.
We're extreme.
You know, like, these could have been very impoverished children.
Who knows if they were taken to the hospital?
These could have been neglected children.
This is not going to be your average child, which goes back to what we were talking about in earlier episodes, where they take these very extreme cases.
This is how big pharma operates.
They take these very extreme cases that are almost negligible when you're looking at what's happening across the entire nation, and they say, okay, now every single child is going to be forced to take this vaccine three times.
Because we found some kids in these rare circumstances that were dying of whatever diarrheal-related incidents or whatever it is.
It's foolish, it's nonsense, and it's going to get worse when we come back out of this little break.
We're going to take a look at what happened when they originally rolled out this vaccine in 1998.
Here's a hint for you.
It was recalled.
Because some kids were getting harmed from the vaccine.
The stuff that they never want you to know.
We'll be right back after a brief break.
Yeah, I don't say that often enough, but fuck you, Candice.
Only looking at death rates avoids the real big, scary, and costly numbers.
Before the introduction of the vaccine, a range of between 50,000, I'm sorry, 55,000 to 70,000 kids below the age of 5 years old were hospitalized.
That's a lot.
Yeah, 55,000 to 70,000 every year.
This was only topped by the number of ER visits at over 200,000 per year and more than 400,000 doctor visits annually for rotavirus-related illnesses.
This alone was a massive drain on the medical system.
Those numbers have all fallen by about 80% since the introduction of the vaccines.
I'm including a link to a source, MedPageToday, that cites these numbers and stories from a pediatric hospital.
Candice threw to the ad we've heard before from back in episode 30, so we're skipping it.
That's a shame.
I really hope she'd actually be a little bit more creative with her ads.
No, it's still the same thing, like begging for Patreon donations because she wants to keep the show free.
The show that was behind a fucking paywall.
Help me keep this free.
Help me keep this free show free by allowing me to have a larger paywall.
One of the mansions, separate topic, but one of the mansions her husband owns is in England, in London.
I couldn't pin down the exact address, but it's thought to be on a street they call Billionaire's Row.
He does not happen to be a billionaire.
He does happen to be worth an estimated $250 million.
But, yeah.
I think I'm pretty sure I get into that shit later.
But yeah, he's...
He's worth...
Fucking hell.
So, yeah.
I don't want that place, but anyone that has lived that life does not know what normalcy is.
No.
Yeah.
So anyway, next up, after the break, Candace gets into...
So thank our lucky stars that the CDC and Big Pharma were.
Able to identify a basically non-existent problem in the United States.
And they rushed to create a vaccine to solve this problem of babies getting diarrhea.
Children getting diarrhea.
And they sent out this vaccine.
And what happened?
Well, it happened to make some infants' bowels fold onto itself.
And it was immediately recalled.
And that, by the way, is admitted right on the CDC website.
Again, this is stuff that's going to be in recent memory.
So this is after the dot dot com boom.
So they can't just obscure and hide these big things that happen.
So you see it says right here on the CDC website, a vaccine to prevent rotavirus gastroenteritis was first licensed in the United States in 1998, but was withdrawn in 1999 because of its association with intussusception.
Intosusception is a type of bowel blockage when the bowel folds onto itself like a telescope.
Wow.
That child potentially could get diarrhea and you could give him some water so that he doesn't die from dehydration, or you could take a risk that your child's going to develop intosusception.
And then it goes on to say that second-generation vaccines were licensed in the United States in 2006 and 2008.
So, here's what's really interesting.
Okay, so we discussed that at the top.
But the side effect here was rare but serious, so that vaccine, Rotoshield, was pulled.
I looked into how frequently this happens with infants on the two current vaccines that we've discussed.
The numbers are much lower.
VAERS received less than 1,000 reported cases since 2006.
With the range of cases being less than 1 per 100,000 children vaccinated.
That's better than 2 in 10,000 from the previous vaccine.
That all said, intussusception is serious, but there is a treatment for it.
The first method of treatment is to put the kid on an IV and do an air enema and then a water enema.
In 90% of cases, this resolves the problem.
If it falls into the lesser 10%, surgery is done immediately with an observation period following.
Most of the time, there is no recurrence or further issue either way.
Again, that is less than 1 in 100,000.
It was like 0.79 kids per 100,000 would develop this, and 90% of those cases are resolved by blowing air and water up their ass.
You know, to unobstruct the bowels.
Now, the funny thing, too, about the interception, and I'm not sure if we get into it later, I think we do, but it only ever occurs, when it occurs, it only really ever occurs after the first dose.
Okay.
It doesn't return.
Kids who get the second and third doses that didn't get that problem, they don't get it.
So it's just a first dose issue and it's treatable.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah, it's treatable.
But anyway, next clip.
We had a Zoom call earlier, so you guys know, those who are giving on Patreon, that we have different levels of contribution for those that opt to give to keep this podcast going.
And the highest tier level are people that are able to do a monthly, what is given back to them is a monthly Zoom call that we conduct.
And today was the first one that we had.
It was amazing.
I loved it, and I'll tell you more about it later.
But in particular, we only...
well, do you know about the recall?
And he started telling me about, during that time, how furious so many doctors and people were about this recall because it was very obvious from the clinical studies that intussusception was an actual risk.
And he said once they recalled it and people were going, hey, what the heck?
You knew this was a potential risk.
They kind of came back, you know, the experts, and they said, oh, well, we just assumed and thought that the benefits here outweigh the risks.
So we made the decision to go ahead and roll this out and not really talk about that potential.
And then what happened?
These babies got sick.
Okay, so the actual truth?
The one that was released in 1998 was known as Rotashield.
We've talked about that.
In the clinical trials, there were over 10,000 doses administered and five cases of intussusception were among those 10,000.
Almost 5,000 cases of placebo were given with one case of intussusception in that group.
It was seen as not a causal relationship due to the small size of the study.
It was listed in the vaccine insert for Rotashield as a possible side effect with the usual language for precisions to contact VAERS in case of any issues.
It was only on wide adoption of the vaccine that intussusception became linked to the vaccine.
The CDC recommended suspending use of it in July of 1999, having allowed it to be introduced in August of 1998.
It was officially withdrawn as a safe and recommended vaccine in October of 1999, and the manufacturer pulled it as a recall and stopped making it.
The two that are currently in use, Rotarix and Rotatec, underwent much more extensive trials and are recognized as safe to use.
Rotatec was made available to use in 2006, and Rotarix was made available in 2008.
So both of the vaccines in current use for rotavirus protection underwent several years of extra trials and testing before being rolled out to the public.
You know?
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
So in other words, it was from.
All right.
So basically it was tested, seen as okay because it wasn't that big of an issue.
And then when they actually rolled it out, it.
Turned out to be a larger issue than they thought it'd be.
Yeah.
Yeah, and these other vaccines have been out now.
You know, the first one in 2006 and the other one in 2008.
That's almost 20 fucking years ago for the first one.
Yeah, yeah.
And close to for the second one.
And we've got current numbers that are literally less than one in every 100,000 kids this will happen to.
For something that will keep them safe from a virus?
Yeah.
That is a lot harder to deal with.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Next?
You can actually see this.
Again, this is also on the CDC website.
If you go way back, this report was published.
Back in 1999, and it gives you further details about that intussusception thing that happened.
They rolled up this vaccine very quickly, and instantly 15 infants were reported to the VAERS system following just the first dose, by the way.
Eight of those infants required surgery, and one of the infants required a resectioning of their colon.
Just imagine if that was your child.
You can imagine that push.
Everyone get the coronavirus, do it.
It's the right thing to do.
It's going to stop you from getting diarrhea.
You don't want your kid to have diarrhea and die.
You can imagine there was some level of propaganda that went out with this rollout because there always is.
This is the right thing for you to do.
It's the patriotic thing for you to do.
And then imagine being those parents who were then reporting to VAERS that their child had major issues and their bowels were folding onto themselves.
I mean, it is just so pointedly ridiculous.
And what really bothered me when he told me that, the CDC saying, oh, we thought the benefits outweighed the risk, is that they only tell you the benefits and they don't tell you the risks.
The CDC never said that about Rotoshield.
Not once.
Not in an offhand signal chat.
Not anywhere.
Ever.
This is an easy claim to debunk, and Candace had every opportunity to look into it.
She chose ignorance.
What I will say and acknowledge is that as regards the two current vaccines, Rotatec and Rotorix, the CDC and the WHO have said jointly that the benefits on these outweigh the risks associated with them.
Now, because this is Candace, she's going to use this for an old whipping boy of hers.
And we just saw this with COVID.
We saw this in the forum and I bring this up all the time of the women that were saying for months that their menstruation was being impacted by the COVID vaccines and they all but refused to acknowledge it.
But it was non-existent.
We weren't given access to the risk.
We were just told, benefit, benefit, benefit.
And then finally, months later, it just became undeniable because we reached critical mass and too many women were saying, no, this is impacting our menses.
And what happened?
And they acknowledged it.
And they said the same thing that this doctor told me that they said back in 98 or 99. Well, we just thought, you know, that was what we were looking for.
You know, we just felt that, you know, the benefits were greater than the risks.
And they constantly make those assessments on We are not allowed to make those assessments on our own because the information that we would need to make those assessments is being withheld.
And so it just infuriates me to hear that this has been going on for so long.
Obviously, you know, in 1999, I was 10 years old and not paying attention to this saga.
And again, I wasn't required to get the rotavirus vaccine.
So it just was not at all on my radar.
I don't see why she felt the need to qualify having been a child at the time the first vaccine was introduced.
But whatever.
Moving away from that to the COVID menstrual issues, initial claims were brushed off in...
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And very rarely longer in about half of the women that got the vaccines.
This is a subject she keeps coming back to and it's largely a non-issue.
But the way Candice frames it is really shitty because she doesn't provide any further context than that it disrupted the lives of women.
It doesn't serve her version that the changes were temporary and typically resolved within one to two menstrual cycles.
This continues to be the case with booster shots, making periods last about one day longer than usual.
And resolving usually within the first cycle, but can last up to four cycles post-boost.
Anything longer than a single cycle is rare.
And again, the usual side effect is an additional day or two of bleeding, which still sucks.
But it is better than catching a lethal mutation of COVID-19.
Yeah.
But now it's time, of course, for Candace to get the FDA insert wrong.
Again?
Oh, she hasn't even gotten to the insert yet.
Oh.
She was talking about the other insert for RotoShield.
Also, the CDC, they almost never tell you that something's harmless.
No.
They usually go, okay, well, this might...
Here's how it might harm you, and we recommend you take it, but also just be warned.
Yeah.
It might hurt you just a little.
Yeah.
So yeah, keep in mind that there are two available options for rotavirus vaccine, Rotarix or Rotatech.
Speaking of risks and benefits, let's jump right into the FDA insert because...
I mean, this is just one of those ones where there is so much risk associated.
There is just not this much risk associated with getting diarrhea.
Just drink some water, guys.
Drink water, right?
And yet, what is on this FDA insert?
My goodness, am I glad that I did not give my child this vaccine series.
I mean, this is just insane.
We can jump around here.
You know, there's just, there's so much here, but And this is under 5.5.
Shedding and transmission.
So you might recall, during this whole coronavirus debacle, that people were saying that the vaccine could shed, and that people who did not get the vaccine could get the virus from people who had gotten the vaccine, and there was this whole, you know, conspiracy theory.
I paid no attention to it, I'm not going to lie.
I did not look into shedding, I just didn't get the vaccine, and we were on lockdown anyway, so no one in my house got the vaccine.
But you started hearing people talk about vaccine shedding, and the press came out and said, this is a conspiracy theory.
Well, apparently it's not a conspiracy theory when it comes to the rotavirus vaccine.
This is a section that says shedding and transmission.
And it says it, I mean, it spells it out for you right here, that it is a plausibility that this vaccine can shed to people.
Here is the sentence.
I'm going to read it to you exactly.
Transmission of vaccine virus strains from vaccinees, people who got the vaccine, to non-vaccinated contacts has been observed post-marketing.
I'm fascinated by that.
I'm happy to plead ignorance.
I did not know this was a thing.
What this signifies to me is that you could give your child the rotavirus vaccine.
the virus strain that exists in the vaccine could potentially spread to people that are not vaccinated.
So I'm trying to understand how it makes sense to get Maybe that's the point.
They want everyone to get the virus.
But that to me is just very interesting.
I mean, they're saying like, you know, your whole house is, I guess, presumably going to get diarrhea because the virus is being spread to non-vaccinated contacts.
I don't know.
I'm just putting that out there that I found that to be really interesting and something worth pointing out.
Before I get into what I have to get into, what's your thoughts on this?
She clearly doesn't know how the evolution of bacteria works.
Right.
That's abundant.
clear, but the fact that she doesn't understand how being a carrier of a virus can make you, you know, able to Put it out.
That's why people get sealed into clean rooms, and nobody except for hospital staff in clean suits are allowed to enter the clean room with the person who has the virus or...
Whether that person has been vaccinated from something, and so thusly they are just naturally a carrier of it, or they bumped into some Joe Schmo in the hallway and now they've given their loved one a hug who is immunocompromised who now goes, oh.
I don't know what this is.
Well, here's the thing.
The COVID vaccines were among the mRNA vaccines.
They did not include a live viral component in them whatsoever.
It is literally impossible to get a COVID vaccine and shed COVID virus.
That cannot happen.
Now, it can happen.
If you have COVID and you get the vaccine, then it's not going to matter.
You're going to be shedding the virus anyway.
Yeah.
But if you don't have COVID and you get the vaccine, you're not shedding shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now, I have got a lot of material about this one thing.
A lot of it is pulled directly from the vaccine insert.
Oh, perfect.
So for this one, she is reading from the Rotatech.
I had to pull up both and read them to see which one she was on.
Anyway, what Candice is not telling you is that this is a pretty large section of the insert.
I'll be linking to both Rotatec and Rotarix in the show notes for the inserts directly from the FDA.
But this section, 5.5 of the Rotatec insert, breaks down how shedding was observed in testing.
Virus vaccine shedding happened in about 12% of subjects in Phase 1, 0% in Stage 2, and literally one person in Stage 3, which was 0.3% of the group of 360 individuals.
The vaccine answer doesn't stop at the one sentence she read.
It continues to say, Should be weighed against the risk of acquiring and transmitting natural rotavirus.
Caution is advised when considering whether to administer Rotatec to individuals with immunodeficient close contacts, such as individuals with malignancies or who are otherwise immunocompromised, or individuals with primary immunodeficiency, or individuals receiving immunosuppressive therapy.
As for what she said about COVID vaccines, making people that got them shed COVID-19, we just talked about that.
It's total bullshit.
So, let me go through all my material that I wrote about that, because I wrote quite a bit.
Yeah, but if you did get COVID-19, you were asymptomatic.
Okay.
If you did get COVID-19, you could shed it, possibly without knowing it, if you were asymptomatic.
Neither Rotarix or Rotatec are mRNA vaccines.
They are partly a live viral load.
So, it is weakened severely and just live enough to train the immune response.
Rotarix is from a single human strain known as G1P1A and it is given orally in two doses.
While Rotatec is from both human and bovine sources.
That's a while, right?
And is given in three doses.
Shedding the virus in the case of Rotatec or Rotarix happens only in poo.
It doesn't shed through breath or skin contact, but given how often babies poo, this can be a concern if someone with immunocompromised systems is around them during the time of doses or up to seven days after dosing in any phase.
Okay.
So this isn't in the inserts, but it is a known aspect of these kinds of vaccines.
And any medical professional should be able to pass that information on.
Candice continues, of course.
I also want to go down to 5.8 because, as usual, you'll find this on most vaccine inserts that, hey, you could get this vaccine and it may not protect you at all against the rotavirus.
I love that very clear disclaimer.
Rotatech, which, by the way, is one of two vaccines that are administered, Rotatech may not protect all vaccine recipients against the rotavirus.
Great.
Glad I am going to take on all of these risks because you think that I might die of diarrhea because I'm incapable of drinking water, I guess, or incapable of giving my child water even though their diet is 85% water.
I believe we can look that up.
I think I'm pretty sure breast milk, Savannah, if you want to look that up quickly, I'm pretty sure breast milk is 85% water, which is why my...
Yeah, maybe that's the reason why my son never, ever got dehydrated, despite his very frequent, as we refer to it affectionately, volcano poos.
I feel like that shouldn't be an affectionate term.
That should be a term that goes, maybe we should take this to the hospital real quick and make sure it's okay.
Yeah.
Congratulations, Candice.
It sounds like little Georgie had rotavirus.
Yep.
I'm glad he survived, and I hope he uses this information to act appropriately when he is an adult and goes to therapy.
Candice isn't done yet.
She continues with adverse events from the insert for Rotaric, which is listed as adverse reactions.
Alright guys, so let's jump into these adverse events.
And this is where things honestly just get scary.
And it's just something that I can't even believe.
This is under section 6.1 on the FDA insert.
It tells you that the most frequently reported adverse events are bronchiolitis, gastroenteritis, pneumonia, fever, urinary tract infection.
It tells you, and this should stand out to you, that deaths, right?
Across clinical studies, 52 deaths were reported.
The most commonly reported cause of death was sudden infant death.
We are going to do an episode on that later.
The sudden infant death that started appearing with infants and taking a look at how they changed the name of what that used to be called.
The most commonly reported death being sudden infant death should be very alarming.
What they always try to do...
And you'll always find it's like a very small variation.
It's like two, you know, like two more deaths for people that got the vaccine.
They're trying to basically say it's negligible.
And, of course, they control the study.
So we have no idea if it's true.
I highly doubt it.
And so they're just saying, oh, you know, it's relevant that, yeah, Yes, your infant has a chance of dying from this vaccine, and they are admitting that.
That is the most important takeaway.
They can give your infant this vaccine, and they can die.
What are your chances, as we've already spoken about before, of your infant dying from diarrhea?
Very small, as we've already examined.
And that's across children up to five years old.
Forget infants that we're talking about, which have to take three doses of this crap.
Okay, before she goes on, Let's discuss, as we do, what Candace is not telling you, or as she herself might say it, pay attention to the dog that isn't barking.
Gods, I wish I could get my hands on her fucking student records.
There is no fucking way that she was a good student in college.
Anyway, what she isn't saying here is that in section 6.1, it says 71,725 infants.
We're evaluated in three placebo-controlled clinical trials, including 36,165 infants in the group that received Rotatech and 35,560 infants in the group that received placebo.
Parents and guardians were contacted on days 7, 14, and 42 after each dose regarding intussusception and any other serious adverse events.
The racial distribution was as follows.
White, 69% nice in both groups.
Hispanic American, 14% in both groups.
Black, 8% in both groups.
Multiracial, 5% in both groups.
Asian, 2% in both groups.
Native American, Rotatech, 2%.
Placebo, 1%.
And other, less than 1% in both groups.
The gender distribution was 51% male and 49% female in both vaccination groups because clinical trials are conducted under conditions that may not be typical of those observed in clinical practice.
The adverse reaction rates presented below may not be reflective of those observed in clinical practice.
Serious adverse events occurred in 2.4% of recipients of Rotatech.
When compared to 2.6% of placebo recipients within the 42-day period of a dose in the Phase III clinical studies of Rotatech.
The most frequently reported serious adverse events for Rotatech compared to placebo were bronchiolitis, which she discussed.
Bronchiolitis was 0.6% in Rotatech and 0.7% in the placebo group.
Gastroenteritis, 0.2% in Rototech, 0.3% in the placebo group.
Pneumonia, same, 0.2% in both groups.
Fever, 0.1% in both groups.
And urinary tract infection, UTI, same, 0.1% Rototech and placebo groups.
So those were all the same.
Deaths.
Across the clinical studies, 52 deaths were reported.
There were 25 deaths in the Rotatec recipients compared to 27 in the placebo.
The most commonly reported cause of death was sudden infant death syndrome, which was observed in 8 recipients of Rotatec and in 9 placebo recipients.
I realize this was a lot of information, but that was directly from the material.
Out of almost 36,000 children in either group, 25 and 27 died.
In rototech and placebo, 25 rototech, 27 placebo.
The insert breaks down how and why, except in the cases of SIDS, of course, which is death with no known available cause.
But Candace has more to say, of course.
Of course.
Another risk that's They observed 10 of them, febrile seizures, following the week after vaccination in Phase 3 trials.
42 days after vaccination, they observed 33 seizures for people that were given this vaccine.
Does this seem like a reasonable risk?
Would you risk, to put it simply, seizures and deaths?
Or would you risk having a bad case of diarrhea and remembering to drink water?
I mean, these are the risk assessments that parents are going to need to make.
I think currently we are risking a seizure in office.
We're risking the seizure in many thousands of years.
We're risking a Caesar, is what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, see, when she says Caesar is Caesar, the only thing that comes to mind is...
But he came into work, and he was there as a sieve, and everybody was like, oh, hey, how you doing, man?
You feeling okay?
And he's like, yeah, I'm doing fine.
And I was like, hey, man, how you doing?
And he's like, oh, I'm doing okay.
But I had a seizure the other day, and I was like, a seizure?
Was it a good seizure?
Was it a good Caesar?
And he was like, dude, it was a Caesar.
And I was like, did you get stabbed in the back of a bunch?
Was it good?
Like, was it a good salad?
And he's like, no, I'm not talking about fucking salad.
I had a Caesar.
And I was like, huh?
And one of the other co-workers looked at me and was just like shaking their head, no.
And I was like, okay.
And then I just went with the default response in my head of, oh man, that sucks.
I'm sorry.
I just, you know, I'm a little deaf.
I'm sorry.
And then afterwards I was like, what was he saying?
And they were like, he said he had a seizure.
I was like, all I was hearing was seizure.
They're like, that's all he was saying.
I was like, okay.
So, I wasn't hearing things and now I feel a little bad because I was giving them a hard time because I was like, what the fuck?
Why are you getting angry at me over a salad?
That's great.
So, when I'm hearing her say seizure, all that comes to my head is, maybe she did have a seizure.
Right.
Oh my god.
So, yeah, she wasn't kidding about jumping around on the insert material.
Seizures is a couple of sections down from deaths.
Jesus.
Now, when you hear the word seizure, I think everyone has probably seen someone suffer one if they haven't had it happen to themselves.
It can be terrifying for everyone involved.
I've seen it many times.
Thankfully, not with anyone I live with directly.
Anyway, in this case we are talking about febrile seizures.
I looked this up, of course, and these are seizures They can still be serious, but they usually pass without incident, and they usually are not indicative of larger issues.
In all, the study of 36,000 children with and without Rotatech each, less than 0.1% of the kids displayed seizures in either group.
Again.
That is less than 0.1% displayed momentary fever-induced seizures, which cannot be placed on the vaccine since it also happened in the placebo group.
It happened more in the rototect group, but not much more.
Fibrile seizures are not always whole-body seizures.
They can present as mild as a stiff muscle.
Or rolling eyes on up to whole body seizures.
There's a range here is what I'm saying.
And again, it happened in both groups.
And as femoral seizures do, it was transient and did not contribute to the death tolls.
Next.
It also goes on to stipulate that there were six cases of intussusception.
They stipulate that the Kawasaki disease was recorded in five of the vaccine recipients.
That's a lot of stuff, a lot of very serious events, adverse events that they observed across clinical trials, and it should make you uncomfortable.
To me, I look at that and I think, what the heck are we even thinking?
I mean, I just don't understand how I didn't know this, how I'm sure you listening didn't know this, that you weren't aware of all of these risks associated with something that they're saying is not going to stop you from getting diarrhea.
Everyone's going to get diarrhea in their life, right?
But they're just saying that it could potentially prevent you from getting diarrhea, but it also could not prevent you from getting diarrhea.
So how are we able to examine its efficiency?
Anybody?
It might and it might not.
So, I don't know what to tell you.
Okay.
Kawasaki disease does not involve sick flips in motorsports.
So, what is it?
Kawasaki disease is a rare illness primarily affecting children under the age of 5. Characterized by inflammation or vasculitis.
of small to medium-sized blood vessels throughout the body, especially the coronary arteries that supply blood to the heart.
It is also known as mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome due to its involvement of mucus membranes, lymph nodes, and skin.
The exact cause of Kawasaki disease is unknown.
It is believed to result from an abnormal immune response triggered by an infection in genetically predisposed children.
It is not contagious and does not spread from person to person.
Risk factors include It mostly affects children under 5 years old.
Boys are slightly more likely to develop it than girls.
It is more common in children of Asian or Pacific Islander descent.
And the disease typically starts with a high fever lasting at least 5 days and includes at least 4 of the following symptoms.
Rash on the body or genitals.
Swollen lymph nodes in the neck.
Red bloodshot eyes without discharge.
Red dry cracked lips and a swollen red tongue or strawberry tongue.
Swelling and redness of the hands and feet with peeling skin later on.
Redness inside the mouth and throat.
Other symptoms may include irritability, joint pain, diarrhea, and inflammation in various organs.
The disease progresses through three phases.
Acute febrile.
Subacute with peeling skin and risk of coronary artery aneurysms.
And convalescent, which is the recovery phase.
Kawasaki disease is the leading cause of acquired heart disease in children in developed countries.
The inflammation can lead to coronary artery aneurysms, myocarditis, and other heart complications.
Without treatment, about 25% of children develop heart problems with this.
And 2-3% may die from complications such as heart attacks caused by blocked coronary arteries.
Early treatment significantly reduces these risks.
The diagnosis of Kawasaki disease is based on clinical signs and symptoms supported by blood tests and heart ultrasounds.
It is important to differentiate Kawasaki disease from other conditions with similar symptoms.
Treatment is usually started in the hospital and involves intravenous immunoglobulin IVIG to reduce inflammation, aspirin to reduce fever, inflammation and prevent blood clots, and early treatment improves outcomes, often leading to a full recovery within 6 to 8 weeks.
In summary, Kawasaki disease is a serious but treatable childhood illness.
The cases of both Kawasaki disease and intussusception We're 5 and 1 for Kawasaki and 6 and 5. These numbers are relative to the general population.
What she fails to say in any of this is that rotavirus isn't just a baby shitting themselves to death or to malnutrition, which it can be, but it also involves mild to high fever, nausea, abdominal pain, fatigue, and of course dehydration.
Rotavirus can be gotten again after a primary infection, but the symptoms are less severe.
Even so, they're still bad.
And if it can be avoided, for fuck's sake, avoid it.
Yeah.
I get the impression that she might not be very nice.
You know?
Yeah.
I wonder how our kids are going to turn out.
If they're...
I don't know.
Like...
And they will use clips from this show to justify it in court.
Like, yeah, mom thought she scrubbed all this from the internet, but I found a show.
Yeah.
To which I want to say, future Candace children.
Feel free.
Yeah.
contact me if I'm still alive.
I'd keep them all stored.
If not, contact me.
I doubt I'll do anything to them.
Right.
I keep them all stored in a safe place.
Yeah.
Yeah, fuck you, Candace.
You make that sound like you keep them stored next to a porn stash or something?
That would be a safe place if I don't have a porn stash.
Oh.
Well, yeah.
I keep them in the safest of places.
In a condom up the ass of a dead...
I don't know where I'm going with this.
In a condom in a dead tree.
No one looks in dead trees.
Nor in condoms in dead trees, I hope.
You know what would not be a safe place?
What?
A couch.
Why a couch?
Because J.D. Vance likes to fuck a couch every now and then.
That's an old story that has no basis in reality, unfortunately.
Until future me kind of hopes it does.
I think one of the greatest things that I saw was Vance was giving a speech somewhere, and it was an outdoor speech, and somebody was riding around the borders of the speech area with a flatbed truck and a couch on it.
The sign, Hey, JD!
Yeah, that was great.
There were a lot of great moments during the campaign last year, but that was definitely one of them.
All right, here's the next clip.
Cool.
Also, if you continue down on the FDA insert, this is also something in terms of, which I just find to be very interesting.
It says other adverse events and they have this table.
And the number one most reported adverse events Okay.
Okay.
Okay, I guess.
Hey, we're going to prevent diarrhea, but you might get diarrhea from the way that we're preventing the diarrhea.
We're Big Pharma.
Don't have to.
Ask any questions.
And it says here very clearly, Table 5, adverse events that occurred at a statistically higher incidence within 42 days of any dose among recipients of Rotatech as compared with a placebo recipient.
So this is the number one most statistically higher incidence that happened in their own clinical observations.
And it's diarrhea.
1,479 recipients, 24% of them.
I don't know what to say, guys.
I honestly just don't.
I have to laugh at that because it's just so ridiculous.
In second place, you have vomiting.
I mean, this is just not a reasonable risk, according to me and my husband, but I will allow you to just make your own assessments and leave these documents for you.
You guys are going to pause right there, and we will be right back, and we will take some questions, and I'll ask you guys a few questions as well.
And that laugh is the laugh of a cruel liar using incomplete stats.
In the first table she mentioned, Table 4, solicited adverse experiences within the first week after doses 1, 2, and 3. The marked experiences went down in severity among both groups, but these came from a smaller set of the groups in the study.
In the total study, About 36,000 people on each side were involved.
In these numbers, it says right here in the material that this was a subset of 11,000 infants, 6,000 of which were on Rotatech.
So these percentages are not reflective of the whole study.
Candace is using Lyre's stats here to claim this is reflective of the whole.
The second table mentioned, Table 5, Also comes from the same subgroup of 11,711 infants.
Most of the events observed were similar rates, but the percentages she mentioned were further numbers from within this group up to 42 days after each dose.
Candice is presenting things such as the 24% of diarrhea being reported as being from the whole thing, and it simply is not.
It is higher in the Rotatech group, but not by much.
What Candace isn't saying, by the way, is that in the entire study, the rate of actual rotavirus infection among the placebo group was 11%.
And that is taken from the placebo group, specifically the placebo group in study 6. All of this can be found way down the insert in section 14 where it is all explained.
So to sum that up, in study 6, 11% of the infants on placebo got rotavirus.
The vaccine absolutely did help protect against it for those that got it.
Or, actually, did help protect it against those that got it.
The whole thing has been fucking absurd.
And, of course, Candace went to an ad throw for her Patreon, which I won't play.
But now, here's the next clip.
Alright guys, welcome back.
I already feel like this episode is going by way too quickly.
I wish I had time to do this multiple times a week.
I first of all just wanted to share this with you.
What is you busy with?
Yes.
I think that your Patreon donors were able to jump on the Zoom call earlier and it was just so illuminating.
This conversation, two people had added, we had a doctor on there, and then he was talking about how different the doctors are from when he was treating patients.
You know, he still treats patients, but he was basically saying that the doctors that have been around for a long time were...
So they know that something's not right with these vaccines.
And yet these newer doctors are so on board.
And somebody had offered the comment that he had learned the exact same thing, that, you know, they're kind of learning in medical school now.
They're great, they're great, they're great.
They don't remember the land before time.
talk to you about what it was like in 1998 before the rotavirus vaccine.
They don't remember kids just not dying of diarrhea.
And that particular person has said his mother was a doctor and she's never once ever treated a single patient with...
And the doctor waited and said the exact same thing.
So it's interesting that we're actually getting a new breed of doctors who are coming out of medical school and they just don't have the history.
They're not learning the history in school beyond that.
And the doctor on the Zoom call agreed with that.
They're not learning the history of vaccines.
They're not looking at the statistics of then versus now.
They believe that vaccines stopped this.
And in most cases, we're talking about anaphylactic.
So you didn't get rid of diarrhea because of the We never had a problem of children dying, a big problem of children dying of diarrhea in the United States.
So it's really interesting to just sort of think about that, how with time becomes the erasure, of course, of history.
And it's purposeful because it's meant to just make people think this is the way it's always been and this is great.
And it's meant to stop us from asking questions.
Okay, that of course was a shadow ad for her Patreon, and she really stumbled through it, I think.
From what I got from that, she was talking with an alleged doctor that is retired.
I wasn't able to get more than what she said there on who this person might be, but scanning the comments of this episode on Patreon, there were only three comments, and two of them called out the fact that a kid suffering diarrhea attacks needs more than just water.
Yeah.
But, on to the substance of this.
I have a hard time believing that she was talking with an actual doctor here, because the statements were all over the place.
It also wasn't clear if this supposedly exclusive Zoom call had more than one person on it, because according to the Patreon, it's not sold as a group chat.
Yeah, it's sold as singular, isn't it?
Yeah, it is sold as an exclusive call with Candace.
To her credit...
And then it goes on to list several medications that can also help, depending on clinical circumstances.
That is a link from Medscape, and I'm including it on the links on the show notes.
Not be confused with Manscaped.
No, which is...
No.
They pay for podcast ads.
Oh, they do?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've heard them talked about many times on Kevin Smith shows.
Oh, fair enough.
Yeah.
What's funny is I've always heard them talked about, but I've never used them.
Yeah, I can tell you you can buy all their products in Target.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I've gotten them for people.
At any rate, yeah, so...
Mortality from acute diarrhea is overall globally declining but remains high.
Most estimates have diarrhea as the second cause of childhood mortality, with 18% of the 10.6 million yearly deaths in children younger than age 5. Further from the article, despite a progressive reduction in global diarrheal disease mortality over the past 20 years,
two decades, diarrhea morbidity in published reports from 1990 to 2000 slightly increased worldwide compared with previous reports.
In the United States, an average of 369 diarrhea-associated deaths a year.
occurred among children aged 1 to 59 months during 1992 to 1998 and 2005 to 2006.
The vast majority of diarrhea-associated infant deaths were reported in 2005 to 2007, with 86% of deaths occurring among low birth weight infants.
So we had an outbreak of these symptoms in the years prior to the rollout of these vaccines.
Yeah.
She provided the proof against her own version of events.
Talk about a fucking self-own.
Christ.
Yeah.
Like, when I was reading that, I was like, how the fuck do you include an article that helps you in no fucking way?
Simple.
Her audience isn't going to read that shit.
No.
But it's my job.
So, I do.
So, yeah.
Next up.
Jumping into questions now, going back to Patreon, and you're able to, at the baby bear level, send in questions if you're donating to the show.
So I'm going to jump into this one, which we made a little bit shorter because it was longer, but this one came from Ari Ann.
And Ari said today, They were recently informed of this by Blue Cross Blue Shield.
He is seven months, he is unvaxxed, and healthy as a horse.
I have a great relationship with my pediatrician, and he fully respected my decision not to vaccinate.
My question is, what steps can I take to pursue some kind of action against Blue Cross Blue Shield?
How is this not illegal?
It's certainly not ethical.
They are making financial consequences for doctors if they don't browbeat us to bring our healthy children in.
Okay, for one thing.
I didn't put this in the script here, but I really do hate the phrase healthy as a horse.
Yeah.
See, listeners, we, for a few years, had a donkey as a pet.
Yeah.
He was cool.
I had no problem with him.
I didn't hang out with him.
It wasn't my chosen choice of animal to have around.
But, you know, he was sweet to everybody, so whatever.
We had goats.
We had goats at the same time we had this donkey.
They all hung out in the same big pen.
They had a wooded lot they hung out in.
Fuck goats.
I'm never raising them again.
But one of the goats was a little pygmy goat.
And she would jump up on the back of the donkey.
And he would take her over to a low section of the fence.
And she would jump over that fucking thing and go into my garden.
And I hated them both every fucking time that happened.
She was just using him for a free ride to the food I was trying to grow.
So, you know.
Fuck goats.
Fuck the donkey for doing that because it was clear.
Very clear.
He knew better.
They're smart animals.
But I have a lot of problems with the phrase healthy as a horse.
Especially when we're talking about things like vaccines and medication.
Anyone that has ever raised a large animal like that, that is honest with themselves and they're trying to keep it healthy, they know you can go to tractor supply or a similar type of store.
And you can buy them all kinds of veterinary medicines.
Yeah.
If you're as healthy as a horse, does that mean you've had vaccines, you're doing fine?
You've got some penicillin in your system?
Yeah.
You know?
You got some ivermectin for your river blindness?
Or your stomach gut?
I mean, oh my God, I just...
Are you eating a ton of oats?
Just so many oats.
So many oats that when you shit, they almost look like you didn't chew.
Yeah.
You know?
Or, you know, even better, are you seen by a medical professional every couple months to make sure your feet aren't rotting off?
Yeah, like, I mean, come on, man.
Like, are your shoes getting custom made and literally nailed into your feet?
Yeah.
No, I mean, come on.
Like, I just, I can't.
You know, I can't with this shit sometimes.
I hate that phrase when it's said by ding-dongs like this because you don't...
I mean, what the fuck, man?
But, um, yeah.
Anyway, Alabama in this bullshit.
Unlike the last episode, where Candace read from Patreon comments, this one was submitted privately behind the paywall.
So I was unable to find the full text.
But going off of what Candice said here and the question itself, Blue Cross and Blue Shield does not have the authority to penalize in a direct sense a medical provider if patients fail to go through the vaccine process.
What may have happened, and we have discussed this in prior episodes, what may have happened is that the doctor's office might get a little bonus for every patient that stays on schedule that happens to be a member of Blue Cross.
But they won't be penalized.
I could see an office admin saying this anyway, as a way to try to keep them on schedule, but as we have discussed before, childhood vaccines are often done at a loss or a break even for medical providers, and they're seen more generally as a social benefit rather than a monetary benefit, since the small bonuses they receive for keeping patients on point only barely cover the cost involved in buying and storing and administering vaccines.
As for this person asking what kind of steps she can take to pursue legal action against Blue Cross Blue Shield, come the fuck on.
I see that as a sort of window into the mind of this person.
Quote, I was slightly inconvenienced in making my kid risk preventable disease, but I want to sue a motherfucker for reasons.
Mm-hmm.
Fucking absurd, and exactly what I expect out of anyone paying $20 a month for this bullshit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the baby bear level.
The level where you get an exclusive that we just found out is not an exclusive, Call with Candice?
Yeah.
$250 a month, right?
We've said that before.
You know what it's called?
Goldilocks.
Yeah.
There's still only one person on Goldilocks level.
I check it every time I do these because I'm already fucking there.
Might as well, yeah.
So, next up?
Yes, I have to They own and operate everything.
I think that we're going to be seeing more of this squeeze that begins happening as parents become more educated.
We are seeing that there is an awakening that is happening where parents are realizing that these people, these institutions that we thought were looking out for the well-being of our children are actually looking out for the well-being of their financial pockets.
In order, as they begin to lose control, they will begin to attempt to tighten their grip.
And that's a scary concept, but there's not much that I believe that parents can do other than dropping their insurance and saying, I'm not going to play this game.
The doctors can do.
I think you're going to start seeing a lot of doctors that begin having their own practices outside of insurance companies.
So my husband and I actually pay out of pocket to see a doctor.
We pay an annual fee, which is really reasonable for our household and it may not be for others.
And they're called concierge doctors.
And these doctors are popping up all over the country, which are just not accepting insurance.
Like, doctors only have to play the insurance game if they have to accept insurance.
And to be honest, it's not advantageous for doctors to accept insurance.
So that entire system is sort of, it's been corrupt from the inside out.
It needs to be fixed from the inside out as well.
And I think that if doctors began starting their own practices and they could find people that were willing to pay out of pocket in whatever arrangement it is, maybe you say, okay, rather than paying this much money to the health insurance company, I'm paying out of pocket every time I go to the doctor.
The truth is healthy kids don't go to the doctor that much.
We're talking about a full disruption of that economic model, which serves absolutely nobody.
I think we are so due for that.
It is the epitome.
The healthcare system is the epitome of what I would describe as the opposite of free market, right?
You're not seeing the prices.
You're not being able to make any choices yourself.
When I walk into a store, I can decide whether I want to buy something there.
Based on, I could say, oh, this shirt is a good-looking shirt or a bad-looking shirt or it fits me well or it doesn't fit me well or it's way too expensive or it's not too expensive.
That is how a free market society works.
The healthcare system is the exact opposite.
We have no idea.
We're blindfolded and handcuffed when we walk into the doctor's office.
We have no idea how much our appointments are even costing because they're billing it back to themselves.
They have complete control to just keep paying themselves, and they force the doctors to play the game.
So there just needs to be a revolutionary effort from doctors to say no more to this system, and I think that it's going to begin with just saying no more to insurance altogether.
I hope that answers your question.
Okay, yes?
I think I racked up to four things.
Okay.
One, God, she can fucking go on.
Yeah.
Two, I'm fairly certain the Simpsons made an episode about going to a doctor that doesn't accept insurance.
Dr. Nick.
Yeah.
Dr. Nick Riviera.
Yep.
Yeah.
And three, that's what we call a street doc or, you know, the so affectionately called ripper docs.
You know, the people who are there to fucking rip you off.
but also the fucking Christ they don't take insurance but if you pay this fee to them Yeah.
I forgot what the fourth point was, but there was a fourth point in there somewhere.
Well, so that was long and dumb.
Yeah.
But that's the kind of thing we cover here.
Unfortunately.
I was hoping she would somehow find a back door to socialized medicine and all that.
Oh, yeah.
But she chose to rant on the existence of insurance companies who, at the very least, have an interest in keeping people healthy at a young age and throughout life.
So that they don't have to spend that sweet subscription money on actual care.
Did you just say sweet subscription money?
Yeah, I mean, that's what it fucking is.
I mean, yeah, fair enough.
I mean, yeah.
You've got a point.
I mean, yeah, they have an interest in keeping people healthy throughout life, so they don't have to spend that sweet subscription money on actual care.
I'm glad I wrote that.
I have news for people like Candice, though.
You can go out of pocket at pretty much any doctor.
It's expensive without insurance, or if the doctor isn't in your insurance network, but it can be done.
I personally despise paying for my health insurance most of the time, but when I can use it, it's pretty great, and it's much less than seeing the doctors out of pocket.
I wish I didn't pay as much as I do, but it could always be worse.
I'd rather have a socialized system like our neighbors a couple hundred miles north, but MinnesotaCare is pretty decent.
The next question is horrifying for those of us On the spectrum.
Remember, these are viewer questions.
I wanted to scream the first time I heard this.
Moving on to a second question that came in from BoyMama1022.
My three-year-old is suspected to have autism.
He has communication issues, speech delay, and sensory issues.
He's an extremely picky eater because of the sensory issues.
I believe wholeheartedly that the vaccines are to blame.
The amount of children with autism keep rising, and they say it's genetics, but that doesn't make sense to me.
I'm wondering if you have looked into heavy metal detoxes since metals not only affect our children but adults as well.
Thank you.
The answer to your question is no.
I have not looked into heavy metal detoxes.
I have been receiving a ton of comments about them and from people that have children that are autistic and from people that are concerned that the heavy metals that are in vaccines are impacting their children.
And I just have to answer honestly and say I don't know.
And so I can't advise something that I don't know about because obviously I didn't vaccinate my child.
But I do just want to say I wanted to read that because I want to acknowledge what you're going through.
Okay, heavy metal autism.
First, autism can be genetic.
I'm on the spectrum, as is everyone in my house.
Six of us, five of us, are directly related.
My grandfather on my mother's side is most definitely on the spectrum, as is at least one of my nieces.
One of my cousins on my mother's side has at least one kid on the spectrum.
I think I find it offensive that this mother would want to blame vaccines, as many do, for something that she can't regard in any way runs in her or her husband's family.
And then she gets into the idea of detoxing heavy metals from her child.
Recently, Behind the Bastards did a series about the autism detox industry, and I will be linking the first episode in the show notes.
They did their usual stellar work, and I cannot recommend that show enough.
The link is to the YouTube version of the episode, but the audio is also worth finding on your player of choice.
I personally use YouTube Premium because I don't get any ads because I'm already paying for YouTube fucking Premium.
Yeah.
Totally worth it.
Oh yeah.
I mean, what did I tell you when I was like, yeah, I can get us the family account, but once you start the no ads life, you can't go back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I honestly, I forgot that YouTube had ads until I was in my buddy's car and he was driving us somewhere.
I'm sitting there and we're listening to some, you know, fucking music and then this goddamn ad pops up in the middle of it and I'm like, bro, is this part of the song or something?
And it's like, no.
No, it's YouTube.
And it's like, what the fuck you mean this?
Oh, right.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't pay for premium.
I forgot.
And then it slipped out of my mouth, dude, you have more money than I do.
Why don't you pay for fucking YouTube Premium?
Yeah.
But yeah, so, anyway, Candace wants to discuss her guilt, or lack thereof, for everything.
And earlier on that Zoom call, I was talking about why it has been so important for me to do this podcast, and it is because I have such guilt for having lived my life with a blindfold over, over my eyes and believing in everything that Big Pharma said and believing that parents that were sharing what happened to their children or are saying something happened to my child after I got a shot were liars and anti-vaxxers and crazy conspiracy theorists.
I have such guilt about that.
And I want to make sure that this remains a platform where parents can speak freely, when we can ask questions, when maybe we get the wrong answers.
Maybe you find out, That it's not a mental detox, whatever, but you should feel safe as a parent who has experienced something to first and foremost feel acknowledged in your experiences, and secondly, to ask those sorts of questions where people who are more experienced, you know, I'm sure there's another mom listening to this right now who is further down the line with dealing with autism who can better answer that question.
We have a right to ask questions and to receive answers.
And I am much more inclined to trust parents now than I am to trust Big Pharma.
So thank you for the question.
I'm sorry I don't have a better answer than that.
Hopefully as we get further down the line in this podcast and I actually begin bringing on experts and doctors, which I intend to do after we go through each vaccine, they'll be able to answer that question.
So I'll definitely store it for next time.
*laughs*
Doctors eventually, maybe perhaps in the future?
She says that she's making more of these episodes, potentially.
I mean, at that point, it's episode what?
This is episode six?
Fuck, we're only on episode six?
I think so.
Let me confirm that.
Yeah, episode six.
Goddammit, I thought we were already deeper than that.
No!
Have you lived in this world very long?
Like 20 years.
Yeah.
20 and a half years.
Oh, it's the half.
Yes, because it puts me a half closer to being allowed to drink.
I'm 20 years and 26 weeks.
Oh, goddammit.
You know, I hated that shit with people, right?
They'd ask how old you were and stuff, and I was like, I don't know, man.
A few months, they're like, oh, you don't know how many weeks?
I'm like, does it matter?
He's healthy and alive.
Like, the fuck is wrong with you?
Like, I'm not marking out days here.
It's not prison, for fuck's sake.
I'm glad the little guy's alright, man.
Fuck off with this week's shit.
Oh, God.
Half the time, whenever I talk to, like, parents, well, talk to parents at, like, the old job, they'd sit there and they'd go, The mothers would always have the exact time and day and almost to the hour.
And then every father that I talk to is just like, I don't know.
Cats stopped trying to eat it, so I guess it's a few months old.
It's big enough.
What kills me is when people will put months of age on children that are a couple years along.
Like, oh, you know, how old is he?
Oh, 33 months.
That's almost three years.
Can you just say he's, like, almost three years?
Like, what...
I just...
I think they made fun of that in one of the first Grown Ups movie, I think it was.
Yeah.
Where they're sitting there and they're like, how old is your son?
Oh, you know, 164 months old.
Isn't that nearly six years old?
Yeah, yeah.
He's got a problem.
But yeah, you know, who can say if there will be doctors on this show?
Certainly not the person that worked with others to plan out the podcast.
Yeah.
Certainly not the woman paying for concierge medical services and doctors that can't explain why pouring colloidal silver in your child's eyes is a bad idea.
I can kind of understand why maybe Candace's personal physician would not want to be named in any of this or provide testimony to her throng of duped people because of possible blowback.
But I find it hard to believe that someone like her family physician doesn't know at least one fame whore willing to risk it all to at the very least run confirmation bias.
Yeah.
My guess.
Is that those doctors cost more money than her cheap-ass, born-rich husband is willing to pay to be seen nodding their heads to this bullshit.
But let's allow her to continue with the truly terrible fucking idea.
And then I guess the last question is from me to you guys.
If you guys don't mind writing me on Patreon and writing me on Parler beneath this episode.
You guys know I'm always prowling through the comments and responding.
I'm putting this out there.
It's kind of a thought.
It's not really a form thought.
But it was so amazing to have this little private Zoom call today.
Like I said, we had intentionally said that we could only have 10 people max at that donor level.
But I said, maybe there's a way to expand it where, okay, we won't be able to have every person ask questions back and forth.
But what if we did a seminar of sorts where I could talk through these things and maybe that happens once a month.
I think was the right price point to put a class at, like a class that you paid into, and it was a monthly class, and we could just talk about each of these vaccines and just continue to have this conversation because I felt, I don't know, I just felt, and then you could write questions live,
and I just felt like it was kind of this amazing thing, and of course we wouldn't be able to do it on YouTube because they would never allow me to, but we could do it if it was set up like a Zoom call, like today was, and I just sent out via Patreon the Yeah, what your feedback is on that idea, and if you like it, what would be that monthly price point that you would pay to join a seminar, where occasionally I'll have a guest, you know, like Dr. Peter McCullough or Dr. Albert Malone, and we just sort of talk through these things live.
Yeah.
I guess so that last question is really for you guys.
When we get back, I am going to very quickly give you questions to ask your doctor.
Okay.
Yeah, so this was a Shadow Patreon ask before another ad throw.
Fucking hell.
What is the price point I would be willing to pay for that?
Fucking nothing.
I just thought of something, too.
Okay.
Since COVID started.
And Zoom became the next big thing as Comedy Central does have a joking video about that that's actually pretty funny.
And followed up with that is with Zoom becoming such a big thing, it became such a big thing because you could have so many fucking people on it.
And schools were using that for, you know, remote teaching.
That's how you fucking do it.
Now, granted, you know, of course, having the price point for all of that, it's called to have it be somebody's fucking job to sit there and go, oh, hey, we got new people on this level of the Patreon.
I'm sure it tells you on Patreon when somebody pops in at that level.
Yeah, you know.
So, you know, you just go through it and you go, okay, message this person this address, this person this address, this person this address, and you do that.
And set it up and make sure, hey, this is going to be the time and day that we launch up the call.
Here's the addresses.
That being said, I've never used Zoom, so if I fucked that up in some regard, I don't care.
Zoom calls me set to a private thing.
And all it would have ever taken for this terrible fucking idea would be to, like you said, have someone coordinate that.
Someone maybe in the staff of a few people that she had at this time.
Yeah.
Coordinate that pretty easily.
And, you know, if you want to do a cost on it, fine.
You charge everyone whatever as a donation.
You see their name attached to their donation on Patreon.
And you send them the fucking link.
Yeah.
It wouldn't have been hard to set up.
Nope.
But, you know.
Unfortunately, we actually give a shit about planning setups.
Yeah.
To be at the level where you get a Zoom call, I will say it again, is a $250 monthly donation.
As of this writing, there's still only one patron at that level.
Since this is all three years in the past, I was unable to see if this had ever been a thing that she actually pulled off.
She scrubbed her ID on Parler.
And a search on Twitter didn't bring it up at all, and there was no mention of it in the Patreon comments.
Rest assured, if it ever happened and someone posted it and I find it, we will cover it here.
Dennis BB over on Rumble, if you're listening and you got this, maybe, you know, be a mensch.
Put it up on Rumble so I can download it and go through it.
I mean, you've done me a great service, my friend.
I don't know you, but I hope to one day buy you a pint.
or whatever you're into.
If you're into water, fuck, I'll buy you a nice I fucking love Voss.
I know it's a throwaway joke in the grown-ups movies, but that shit's delicious.
It comes in a huge clasper.
Like, you could drink the Voss down and then use that glass bottle.
As a really good weapon, at least one time.
It's thick, and it's like the size of a fucking classic maglite.
Well, I don't know.
I think you could get two uses out of it, because even if you break it on the first person you hit, you've still likely got wherever you're holding that you can then stab into someone.
I mean, in theory, yeah, but have you ever tried to use a broken bottle as a knife?
No.
It's not.
Good.
It's not fun.
It's not easy.
You could really hurt yourself.
The best thing to do is to bust that shit and throw away the evidence.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
It's not a good handle.
I don't recommend it.
It's only imposing to someone that doesn't know how to knife fight.
That's fair.
Yeah.
I don't recommend it.
So yeah.
Next clip.
Alright guys, welcome back.
As a quick wrap up, I'm going to give you guys questions to ask your doctor since you guys like that a lot.
So question number one, I would say to my doctor, the FDA insert lists death from SIDS into susception and seizures as serious adverse events which were observed in clinical trials.
What are the benefits that you would say outweigh those risks?
I think a doctor, a well-meaning doctor, should be able to answer that question.
Okay, I'm not a doctor, but I'll give it a shot.
Let's see.
Oh, yes.
If you don't want to risk a virus that can cause death and lifelong issues, along with the possible adverse events you mentioned, then get the vaccine for your kid.
The adverse events right here in the insert.
The adverse events happened in less than a single percent.
Of all the trial groups.
Which means the kids that got the shots got the added benefit of not suffering with rotavirus.
Next.
Question number two.
How many children in this country were dying of rotavirus related diarrhea before the rollout of the vaccine?
Do you still feel that it's a reasonable enough risk to recommend this vaccine to my infant?
Yeah, be armed with those numbers.
I don't care where you live.
Again, Australia, whether you live in the United Kingdom, the United States, have the number of how many children actually died where you live from diarrhea, which they can't even stipulate is even from the coronavirus.
But just full stop, how many kids were dying from diarrhea-related events?
If it's 369, just ask your doctor, does that seem like a reasonable number?
Work out the percentage.
Does that seem like a reasonable percentage of risk?
I think in America that risk we worked out as a percentage to.019% risk or, I mean, is that a reasonable enough risk to expose my kid to all of these?
Again, not a doctor, but I'm going to say yes, it's worth it.
I'm going to say this again.
While death is debatably the worst possible outcome of rotavirus, being a baby in a growing body is already hard enough.
Yeah.
Rotavirus is entirely preventable and can keep a child from suffering an unnecessary illness at best and death from shitting themselves or other related conditions at worst.
Yeah.
Next.
And as a final question.
I would say, the FDA insert lists diarrhea as the adverse event which occurred in 24% of vaccine recipients in clinical trials.
How does it make sense to expose my child to the risk that the vaccine claims to remove my child from?
When we're not in catch-22, give your child a vaccine, they might get diarrhea.
You know, don't give your child a vaccine, they might get diarrhea.
Hey, give your child the vaccine and you still might get diarrhea, as we learned from the insert as well.
Her inability to process facts still amazes me.
As we mentioned earlier, that 24% number was from a subgroup within a study, and the vaccine is not there to and does not claim to protect against diarrhea.
It protects against rotavirus, of which diarrhea is one of many symptoms, and which can return to strike a kid again and again.
So if a kid survives the first bout, they may be in for more.
Secondary and third occurrence reinfections are usually more mild, but why should a child have to suffer this in the first place if a vaccine can circumvent all of the bullshit with a few doses?
This is fucking absurd of her to even say.
This is probably a good starting point for you to have a conversation with your doctor.
Doctors should be able to answer these questions.
Doctors that become flustered and don't want to answer these questions do not deserve to have you as a patient, do not respect you as a parent.
You guys, I have had the best time in this episode talking about what I believe and perceive to be the nonsense surrounding the rotavirus vaccine.
And again, no judgment zone at all.
If you look at all of this and you say, you know what, I do think that this provides some benefit and I want to give it to my child.
This is a process we're learning together.
As long as you are armed with the fact you go in there and you are making the best decision that you possibly can, you won't get any judgment from me.
Thank you guys.
Next week, what do we have on the list?
What's next on the list?
I got to look it up.
I don't know.
We're going to have some vaccine for you.
Why are you not?
Childhood vaccine schedule.
Oh!
D-Tap is up next.
I'm excited!
I don't know how to say it.
I love that, Savannah.
Savannah doesn't know how to say it.
So we have that up next to you guys.
We will see you next week, same place, same time.
Yeah, thanks a lot, Savannah.
How is my show more put together than her show with the fucking staff?
Yeah, her show that she claims to have no time to do.
While I understand mothers do have their own fucking shit going on that makes it a little difficult to do shit, something tells me that she is not mothering enough to have that excuse.
This entire episode was less than an hour.
Yeah, she does not have that excuse.
I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, what the fucking fuck?
Anyway, the only thing I cut out of the last bit there was the ending theme music.
It's only a few seconds long and it sucks.
Just like I cut her entire starting theme music out.
It's a few seconds long and it sucks.
I would rather hear our AI-generated theme songs.
Next episode will be the DTaP or Tdap vaccine.
It's actually the DTaP.
Is what you get when you're older.
DTAP is for infants.
Okay.
Yeah.
I do have a bonus clip for everyone, though.
Oh.
As I have said before, I am listening to her material from the post-election period, slowly making my way to the present.
Well, last week I played a clip as our bonus clip from November 29th, 2024.
I was listening to the Next Day's episode, November 20th, and I heard this between the 10-15 minute marker.
I would love to get her in a room, by the way, with my husband, who has a master's in theology from Oxford, and just have her basically pitch to him that he's illiterate, and that's why he loves his Bible so much.
Okay, now the background on this clip is that Candace is responding to some YouTuber that has been running a long-running hit piece on the main person in an Instagram account called Ballerina Farm.
Hmm.
Yeah.
This particular episode from November 20th was almost entirely celebrity gossip crap.
Yeah.
But this clip stuck out to me.
I went and looked for anything to back this up.
Yeah.
George Farmer, a.k.a.
Mr. Candace Owens Farmer, likely does not have a master's in theology from Oxford.
He did graduate with a degree in theology, with a bachelor's in theology.
Which must come in handy as a metals trader.
A what?
He works in the field of metal trading, specifically copper.
Okay, metal trader.
I thought you said metal trader, and I'm like, what the fuck is a metal trader?
I see that, okay.
He works in the field of metals trading, and also he runs a PR firm and some other shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that his degree in theology, which is supposed to be something you get before you go into the ministry.
Yeah.
I'm real sure that just...
That's like...
That's like the liberal...
You know?
That's like treating Oxford like goddamn Greendale.
Like, oh, God.
Yeah, so, you know, there's no mention anywhere that I could find the facts of this claim of him having a master's.
I can confirm that he only holds a bachelor degree from Oxford in Theology, otherwise known as a capital B, capital T, lowercase h.
I will link to the Wikipedia definition of this in the show notes.
Now, let's try something really crazy from across the world.
Oh, yes.
Now, recently...
They had, I knew I was in the right place when I walked in.
I saw the candy section first, because it's about the size of a quick stop in there.
And then I looked to the right, and I saw the soda wall.
And I knew I had found where I needed to be that day.
Now, I picked up four sodas from there that are going to get us through this episode and the following three.
Where is that turf?
Now, we were going to go to the Rocket Pop and, you know, soda shop and whatever, or Rocket Pop and candy shop in the Mall of America, again, to load up on more weird crap, but I just, I saw these and I had to go for them.
Now, I've got a question for you.
I translated We got two from Lithuania and two from Russia.
Now, you know what they are, okay?
The 1% Russian.
You want the 1%?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Where's that bottle opener, dude?
That's a great question.
I thought it was under my pillow, but it is not under my pillow.
I should have a second one in that drawer, though.
You know, I'm not going to question the sanity of having a sharp-ass bottle opener under your pillow.
It's not exactly a survival knife.
No, no.
I think it ended up there because I was laying there in bed and I reached behind me and it was just there.
And you were like, let me open up a Coors bottle in my sleep?
No, no.
I was drinking sarsaparilla and I forgot they had twist tops.
Okay.
And then I just never removed it from my bed and I appear to have lost it.
Jesus Christ.
You know that one's a special one that you can pour Guinness into, right?
Yeah, yeah, I have two of them.
Yeah, I know.
Which is why I'm confused is why I can't find the second one.
I know one was on your desk.
That's the one I'm looking for.
This is great hot, by the way.
Because I'm recording all of this.
I know, I know.
Forgive me for having so many goddamn ties on my desk.
Jesus Christ.
Don't you have a tie rack?
No, it got fucking porched the stolen.
Oh my God.
Alright, you know what?
Go get a goddamn bottle opener from the kitchen.
Hold on, you know what?
What?
I'm smarter than both of us occasionally.
I carry a multi-tool in my backpack.
Every now and then I remember that I have the fucking thing.
Alright.
I just gotta find the bottle opener bit.
That's a knife.
That's not a knife.
Let's see.
Scissors.
Ah, that looks bottle opener-y.
Let's just close all of you lethal looking things.
Even the bottle opener has a, oh, that's a screwdriver.
I was like, even it's got a fucking blade.
Alright.
That's the Swiss for you.
I mean, well, I mean, it's a Leatherman.
Oh, well, that's a Leatherman for you.
I don't know what country makes it, and I've never looked it up.
At any rate, here, you do the thing.
Yep, we didn't read off the...
Okay, so, this one.
It's called Imperial Kvass, K-V-A-S-S, Kvass, maybe, Gira, G-I-R-A.
Yeah, so it is a fermented soft drink, product of Lithuania.
Okay, so this is not Russian.
Okay.
This is product of Lithuania.
It is a 15 ounce thick-ass bottle.
It's got...
You might want to keep this one around for a while.
Yeah.
Just so we can remember what we've had.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
Alright.
So this is supposed to have less than 1% alcohol in it, which was not clear until I ran Translate on the label.
Oh, shit.
Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit.
Pour it up.
God.
It was ready to come out of there, too.
Alright, that's probably good enough.
Fuck.
Yeah, you got a little on your...
Like, that wasn't gonna happen at some point.
I mean, that's true.
I've spilt coffee and shit in my bed.
For just a little added knowledge by the way Yeah, it is.
It's really difficult.
There's like no space, even for a rolly chair.
Like, I use a...
When I'm in here doing these...
Pour up the rest on mine.
I use a...
Could you pass me my towel?
It's right over there on the...
Yeah.
Not a bad idea.
This one?
Yeah.
God, it smells so hoppy.
Yeah, hops is an ingredient in this.
Apparently Princess wants him now.
Weird little cat.
Weird old cat.
Come on.
Alright.
That is strong in hops, even on a towel.
It is definitely a dark rye.
Yeah, there is actual rye bread in this beer.
In this drink.
It's not a beer.
It looks like a fucking beer.
Right?
It looks like a Guinness.
It does.
Well, maybe not like a Guinness, but it's very stouty.
And it does have a strong sense of rye because rye is one of the ingredients in it.
There's rye, there's barley, and there's hops.
Yeah.
In this bread soda.
It is a bread soda, not a beer.
Yeah.
I want to be clear about that.
Lithuania gave us something weird, man, but...
Yeah, just a bit.
But this one was poured up first, so yours will go down.
But maybe the head is creamy, I don't know.
Let's give this a shot.
That's very stouty.
Yeah.
I mean, it's good.
Yeah, it's very good.
Ooh, if you let it sit on your tongue a little bit, it tastes like that Cheesecake Factory dark rye.
It does.
This is going to sound really wrong, but hey, it's June.
The head is indeed creamy.
Yeah, right.
Oh, man.
Wow.
Lithuania's got some cool shit going on.
Yeah.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
This is...
Gross.
Sneezy cat.
glad I kept I want to say Yeah, I want to say that this was only like three bucks.
Damn.
Yeah.
Most of their sodas over there were like $3.
I know this doesn't have near enough alcohol to do anything to anybody above a certain age, but it would be hilarious if this had just enough alcohol in it to have one at work and then have people go, dude, you seem to really chill when you come in.
Did you light up before you got here?
No, man.
No, no.
Just been drinking my new favorite soda.
Lithuania.
Man, that's crazy good.
Yeah, it is.
Well, it's got like this...
You know what I mean?
A little.
Yeah, a little bit.
It's a sweet rye bread.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you compared it to the Cheesecake Factory brown bread.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting out of this.
Yeah.
Damn.
That's excellent.
That was better than I honestly thought it was going to be.
I was hoping it wasn't going to be a dog.
Yeah, yeah.
That was pretty damn good.
Yeah.
And also, if, you know, people from...
It explains why generationally going up, they can hold their liquor as they can.
Right.
That's something I've been thinking about all day.
I'm like, well, no wonder why.
If you start at the age of fucking 6, going to school with your little lunchbox, and you open it up, and you eat your fucking meatballs and gravy, and you open up the soda that your mom packed in there, and you're like, oh, it's my 1% soda.
Right.
I can't wait to drink this.
Hey, Dimitri.
You want to trade?
I don't know why I went with that voice.
That's very, very...
Lightly Irish.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, that's quite good.
It's not really sugary.
No.
Sugar is an ingredient in it, but it's not really sugary.
No.
The hops was a surprising ingredient to see on the translation.
I was like, huh.
Oh, I know why I got the Russian.
I was thinking about the...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one, yeah.
Yeah, that one's going to be unique when we get to it.
I think we should probably do that one next time, just that way, you know, Lithuanian this time, Russian next time.
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, that makes sense, yeah.
We can save the really strange Russian one for the last.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's what's going to happen, yeah.
Yeah.
Because, man, I've I want another one.
What?
I said I want to fuck another one of those.
That was good.
It was excellent.
Well, we know where to go for them now.
Oh, yeah.
Paradise Market in Hopkins, y 'all.
Can I recommend that?
Oh, here was something cool that happened while I was there.
Yeah.
We got about 80 bucks worth of stuff.
We got the sodas.
We got a bunch of foods.
And we got to the counter, and the lady at the counter, her English was very limited.
From what I understood.
Oh, I tried something there that they had.
They had a little plate of some of their cut deli meats out.
I tried a ham.
I think it was from Poland.
A little bite of ham.
That was the most succulent ham I've ever had in my life.
That ham was like heroin.
It just melted.
It was so good.
I was so tempted to grab another piece.
They had other things on the tray, too, and I was like, no.
Back to some self-control here.
You've had one.
You've enjoyed it.
Don't get a pound of that.
You won't make it home with it.
But anyway, we got over to the counter, and I was telling her, you have a great shop here, and we will be back for more stuff.
She starts ringing up our stuff, and she's like, bonus bread.
I was like, what?
I didn't quite get it.
I was like, I'm sorry.
I don't understand.
She gave a little huff, which I understood as being like another American.
She came around the counter and she went over to this table that had bread on it.
She told me, light, dark.
I was like, oh, dark.
Yes, absolutely.
Thank you.
Yeah, I had some.
Fucking great.
One of the greatest, densest, dark bread I've ever had.
It's excellent.
We spent $80, so getting a free loaf of bread was a nice little add-on.
But I had gotten a thing the night before that we had tried.
Yes.
They were from Russia.
It was a cranberry-flavored Marshmallow coated in dark chocolate.
It was so good.
Between me, him, and his sister, there were 12, and we just ate them all up.
They were amazingly good.
I would compare them to a pinwheel, but that would be insulting the thing we had.
Pinwheels used to be a favorite thing of mine when I was a child.
This was so much better.
And it's not like the fucking quote-unquote lump of coal candies.
No, no, no.
While those might have been made an imitation of them, they are so much better because when you bite into it, the marshmallow is actually soft.
Oh, yeah.
That was my biggest hang-up.
It was soft and it was...
Like, Russia did a really good job on this one.
The other things that they had there, we picked up a bunch of, were alcohol-filled chocolates with brandy and scotch.
And what was the other one?
Orange liqueur.
Yeah.
All of them excellent.
I definitely had a preference for the scotch one.
But yeah, no, they had all kinds of cool shit in there.
It was not candy.
They had all kinds of, like, Pickled stuff.
I think they had garlic that was pickled with the green stems on it.
That's really unique shit.
We're definitely going to be going back there.
What's up?
That was a weird flavor combination.
I just had dinner, the sarsaparilla I downed before we started, and the fucking rye bread soda.
We had kebabs.
We had kebab patties.
Kebab.
They were a chicken and beef blend.
Rice, with like a basmati rice, and a turmeric-heavy yellow curry sauce, and garlic hummus, like in bowls, with lavash flatbread on the side.
My wife decided to make that up.
It was very good.
It's excellent.
But, yeah, we had that tonight, so I can see we're, like, burping up that with...
I mean, it's not an unpleasant taste because it is a sweet soda.
It's a complimentary for sure.
Yeah, but it was met on the back end with the taste of sarsaparilla.
Oh, okay.
And so it was like...
It wasn't a bad flavor, but it was like, oh, what the fuck did I just taste?
Yeah.
Oh.
That's funny.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we will cut this.
Yeah, we'll be back in a couple weeks to start in on...
Woohoo!
I'm just so looking forward to going through that crap.
Alright everybody, that's it.
Have a great two weeks and hopefully you know shit doesn't go completely sideways.
Bye!
Bye!
We raise our voice Candace speaks boldly It's her chosen choice With words like daggers Sharp and clear She'll twist the tail Dismiss the fear Against the odds The truth lays bare But does she care?
