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July 6, 2024 - Gishgallop Girl

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Episode 10 - Lots of 9/11 Truther Stuff

In this episode we dive into a subject that I really don't enjoy getting into, and that is 9/11 Truther. We have some laughs along the way of course, and our soda review is a bubblegum flavored one from Northern Minnesota, I mean...er, Canada.

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	Okay, hello everybody.
	Welcome to episode 10 of Gish Gallop Girl.
	I'm your regular host, Thomas Anderson, and with me today is, of course...
	Matthew Anderson, your secondary host, I suppose.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, we are actually going to get through all of chapter 2 of Blackout today, and then we're going to move on to some really disturbing shit that happened on the new Candace show.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure which one I'm looking forward to or not.
	So let's just get this started then.
	Alright, so Candace starts Chapter 2, which has a notes section in the back, but again, no bibliography in this book.
	Anyway, Candace does make a valid point at the top of the chapter.
	She mentions that at the time close to publication of this book, CNN had less than a million viewers a day, and even today that holds true.
	MSNBC and Fox News have more viewers on average separately than CNN does.
	She uses this to say that legacy media is dying off because at the time of this book being written, Candace had 2.5 million subs on Twitter.
	At the time of me writing this, she has over 5 million subs on Twitter, which calls back to why I'm doing this show and also why I was surprised no one else seemed to be doing this before.
	In spite of her being a public liar and being easily disproved, Candace has a growing audience, and her audience has grown in spite of her bullshit takes, and it in fact seems fueled by them as the media grows her audience for her,
	in the same way they did for Alex Jones and InfoWars.
	It might be unintentional, but legacy media has learned nothing over the many years that it has been doing this because all they do is use soundbites and pull people like Candace in for interviews to clown on them, but it never goes that way because these types know the cameras aren't going to cut off when they start getting irate when they get pushback or are asked to answer for their stupid takes.
	Instead, they grow their audience by going full-on counterattack, attracting the people that appreciate that kind of reaction, and then those people talk to other smooth brains who begin to tune in.
	Hmm.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, I know about that smooth-brainedness.
	Yeah.
	Smooth brains like koalas.
	Yep.
	Which is still insulting to koalas.
	I unfortunately convinced a right-wing co-worker...
	I unfortunately...
	Inspired a right-wing co-worker that maybe they should bring back the gladiatorial games, and that's how we should elect a president.
	Because he was throwing a hissy fit about the debate, and I was just like, maybe we should just have gladiatorial games.
	Well, what kills me about that is that, like, even the Democrats were like, Biden lost the debate.
	Okay, I mean, you know, whatever.
	Biden has never been good at debating.
	Robert Evans, behind the bastards, and it could happen here, pointed out that historically Biden has never been great on stage.
	No.
	He's better at a desk, reading shit and signing it and talking to the right people.
	He's not a good stage presence.
	Trump is the exact opposite.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Biden did at one point call him a...
	And they mentioned this as well.
	Biden did at one point call him a...
	Oh, fuck.
	He used a really good one.
	It wasn't rat fucker, but I want it to be rat fucker.
	Yeah, no, it wasn't that.
	It was...
	Oh, yeah, it said that he had the morals of an alley cat.
	And, yeah, I was like, okay.
	All right.
	But, yeah, so...
	Anyway, speaking of tuning in, Candace claims that when she began to turn from a liberal thinker to a conservative, she decided to start by looking at conservative voices on YouTube and came across a video of the Rubin Report.
	Now, for those unfamiliar, the host of this show was Dave Rubin, a failed stand-up comic that wrote an essay and video titled Why I Left the Left, a work that explained why he wanted to be a conservative.
	It hit all the talking points of the day.
	He attacked safe spaces, trigger warnings, and the opposition of speakers on campuses.
	It resonated with the intended audience.
	Rubin has done well for himself with his new friends.
	Anyway, he interviewed Larry Elder, who we spoke about in the first couple episodes of this show, and according to Candace, that interview helped push her over the edge into her current state.
	Elder was asked about police violence being a marker of racism, and Elder quoted a bunch of numbers, which Candace has provided verbatim from the transcript.
	I won't repeat the stats because a lot of time has passed since then, and the publicly known deaths of George Floyd here in Minneapolis and Breonna Taylor and many others since have put to rest a lot of the numbers dancing that people like Larry Elder specialize in.
	I went through the numbers on the statement, and they don't add up to what both Larry Elder and Candace Owens and others would have their usually white audience believe.
	Elder did on Rubin what he did at the start of this book, and that is pull a lie, in this case several, by omission.
	For those who haven't listened to the first two episodes of this show, for one thing, I get it.
	It's not like this is a required course in school or anything.
	For some who only listen on Spotify, I know there was and may still be an issue getting the first episode on there.
	By the time this airs, I will have linked to it on the website and may make it a hard link if I can do so.
	It's only about a 60 megabyte download, or I can set it as a streaming link.
	Anyway, back to the issue at hand, Candace decided to become a conservative because she watched Larry Elder deliver a verbal beatdown to a man she now calls a dear friend.
	But this was more like becoming a fan of a fighter that won a rigged match.
	Elder likes to use cherry-picked stats to try to prove, often, that police violence on black folks is not a problem.
	Candace does the same thing.
	They also like to use stats to prove in some form that institutional racism and systemic racism don't exist and haven't for a long time.
	Never mind the actual lived experience of many black folks I have known for many years.
	These people haven't always been criminals or wanted or anything, but they have grown up in fear just the same.
	Fear of stepping out of line, of doing one thing on a bad day that fucks up the rest of their lives because it gets blown out of proportion.
	For Larry Elder and Candace Owens, they were both raised in supportive homes.
	They talk often about how the decline of Black fatherhood has been the source of problems in the Black community.
	But that, like with Thomas Sowell, who was mentioned in the last episode, they are quick to point out with data how all of this adds up to problems like crime and poverty.
	But they have no solutions because they refuse to see how the society they support keeps people down.
	Because facing the truth of real solutions, that actually takes work.
	It requires looking at the whole of the system beyond just blaming rap stars for glorifying their lives.
	It requires not blaming popular culture and examining the systems that screw people over en masse.
	Because that's where the real truth and the real data lie.
	And they, to their audience, would seem to do that when they blame the welfare state.
	They both blame government benefit programs for taking the place of fathers in the home.
	But anyone that has gone through the hoops of getting said benefits and then maintaining them In order to get proper medical care, especially for chronic issues, patients often have to develop themselves into their own attorneys, taking careful stock of every little thing.
	Same with their housing and, unfortunately, their incomes.
	One reason why people who are on income assistance don't improve their lives is because they can't afford the middle ground.
	What I mean is, if they get a pay raise of just enough money, they can be taken off the programs that are supporting them.
	Not a lessening of their benefits.
	A total loss.
	So many of the people that I've known on assistance programs have refused pay raises and have stayed in bad situations for years, while they do work under the table being paid straight cash so they can claw out of bad situations.
	Maybe.
	If nothing goes wrong and they don't exhaust themselves from overwork or stress, if they can live without major issues happening, the way life is, that's a big if.
	That's no excuse to not go after these people in what they call work.
	In fact, it's one of the reasons we do this.
	It can be daunting, but let's continue our dive into this fucking cesspool.
	I looked into Larry Elder's life just a bit, and he came from good parents in a good middle class area.
	Much like Candace.
	Putting her parents' divorce aside, she was raised with loving relatives in a good area as well.
	So they have a lot of similarities.
	Which is probably why they're such good friends.
	At least as far as I can tell.
	Moving on from Larry Elder and his hand-picked stats, Candace goes on to make several incredibly wrong statements about former President Lyndon B. Johnson.
	Now, before I get into this, Johnson wasn't perfect by any means.
	His best friends probably called him an asshole.
	But rather than tell true stories about the man, Candace instead starts her section on LBJ with an overheard accusation.
	According to the story Candace tells, and I quote again with some editing and obvious spots on my part, Quote, The Democrat Party has a long history of racism, but few can claim as much credit for damaging the black community as the late President Lyndon B. Johnson.
	Robert Caro's definitive biography of LBJ, Master of the Senate, talks about his common use of the N-word, not in singular use, but frequently and repeatedly.
	While in Congress, Johnson was an extremely conscientious member of the Southern Bloc, the Democrat-controlled voting group that was notoriously committed to blocking the progression of civil rights.
	In fact, during Johnson's first 20 years in the U.S. Senate, he voted down every single civil rights measure that made the floor.
	Yeah.
	End quote.
	Now, looking into these claims meant that I had to look into the life of LBJ.
	While it was recorded by his biographer and many other people that knew him that he was racist in private, his public actions were anything but racist.
	Candace is wrong in her assertion that he voted against civil rights measures.
	Absurdly wrong.
	She goes on in this book, across a couple of pages, making the common conservative assertion that the passing of the Great Society initiatives made welfare recipients married to an ever-increasing government presence in their lives.
	Candace quotes from the Heritage Foundation, which anyone who listens to this universe of podcasts probably just hissed and spat at the mention of.
	But anyway, she quotes someone from the Heritage Foundation who said, quote, What if I took that kind of welfare policy and implemented it in your family?
	wrote K. Coles James, president of the Heritage Foundation.
	If I said to your sons, Sweetie, you don't have to work.
	I'll take care of everything.
	And if I said to your daughters, Sugar, you go ahead and have as many babies as you want.
	I'll give you more money to take care of them.
	What do you think your family would be like in 20 years?
	I'll tell you.
	Your sons would be living at home and not working.
	Your daughters would be having kids out of wedlock.
	And your family would be a whole lot poorer.
	End quote.
	Candace also says an actual fact, bless her, that the federal budget has $1 trillion carved out for welfare programs.
	What she fails to mention is that the majority of that is not just handing people money.
	It's a combination of SNAP, which used to be known as food stamps, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare, Housing Assistance, Now, all of those programs are things that,
	ta-da, the Republicans want to remove from pretty much every budget.
	They've been working to do that for decades.
	The Heritage Foundation especially has expressed interest in removing every supplemental program from the budget, and despite what anyone will tell you, that has always included Social Security.
	They don't want to pay into it and actively want to shut it down and or increase the age the recipients have to be to get it.
	They want to increase it by another five years.
	So instead of being 62, you've got to be 60?
	Well, instead of being 65, basically, you've got to be 70. Some of them are talking about raising it to 75. Yeah.
	And they've been doing that for a long time.
	They're only really getting into it now because the Republicans have pushed out this thing they call...
	Oh, fuck.
	It's not Agenda 25. It's something like Plan 2025 or something like that.
	I can't remember right now because my brain is filled with this fucking mush.
	Yeah, they want to, in stated goals, actively remove just tons of federal programs.
	And Justice Clarence Thomas, it came out today that he wants to look into removing OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
	Yeah.
	He wants them gone.
	So there's no longer any regulations on buildings?
	He doesn't want anything like OSHA around.
	What does he want to build that he doesn't want OSHA present for?
	Who knows?
	This is a guy who used to clip his pubes and put them on Coke cans at his colleagues' desks.
	What the fuck?
	Oh, he thought it was hilarious when he did it, too.
	The Behind the Bastards series on him is epic.
	I'm sorry, just...
	Yeah.
	He did that frequently.
	He's known for it.
	He may have continued to do it.
	We don't know.
	Once they become a Supreme Court member, their lives are basically locked away.
	Although we do know that he vacations a lot on a billionaire's yacht.
	The billionaire's name is Harlan Crowe.
	I've heard the name before, but...
	Yeah, he's some big-shot financial asshole.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can bet maybe he's...
	Maybe he's whispering in Clarence Thomas' ear.
	Who the fuck knows?
	Anyway, Candace goes on to say, quote, it surprises me that the issue of welfare reform has been drawn across party lines when politicians on both sides of the aisle have justifiably critiqued the modern social safety net and its tendency to keep blacks tight within
	its perimeters.
	Ronald Reagan was proudly lambasted for his depiction of the welfare queen, a woman who was said to have used, quote, 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans benefits for foreign, non-existent deceased veteran husbands, and a woman whose...
	Despite criticism, Reagan was telling the truth.
	Welfarism breaks down undue havoc upon any given society by enabling irresponsible behavior from both men and women.
	Those who wish to dismiss that truth as the racist rantings of a now-deceased, staunchly conservative Republican president would do well to remember that its sentiments were also echoed by former President Barack Obama, our liberal first Black president.
	Huh.
	End quote.
	That was...
	You might have to go back through that one slower.
	No, no, I refuse.
	I fucking refuse.
	We're going to move on.
	Before we go on with that, let's discuss the welfare queen myth.
	Here are some key points about this myth.
	The origin and Reagan's role.
	One, the term welfare queen was coined in 1974.
	By the Chicago Rebune to describe Linda Taylor, a woman accused of welfare fraud.
	Ronald Reagan popularized the concept two years later during his 1976 presidential campaign, frequently referencing a woman in Chicago who allegedly committed extensive welfare fraud.
	2. The Real Linda Taylor Linda Taylor was a real person who did commit welfare fraud, but her crimes were far less extensive than Reagan claimed.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Fun.
	The welfare queen stereotype was racially charged, typically depicting a black single mother living lavishly on government benefits.
	Reagan never explicitly mentioned race, but the implication was clear to his predominantly white audience.
	The myth fueled support for welfare reform and cuts to social programs.
	It contributed to negative stereotypes about welfare recipients, particularly poor black women.
	The narrative influenced policy changes under both Republican and Democratic administrations, including Bill Clinton's 1996 welfare reforms.
	Now, that being mentioned, I had an aunt who worked in the welfare office in Georgia.
	You met her.
	She worked in the welfare office in Georgia for many years.
	That was basically her career when she got out of college.
	Was to be a social worker at, I think it was the office in Atlanta.
	Anyway, she was there for a long time, several decades.
	And when that happened in 1996, when welfare reforms went in in 1996, I asked her about that.
	I was like, you know, that's supposed to make things easier.
	And she goes, oh, no, no, no.
	No, we have to fill out so much more paperwork now.
	I have so much less time for the people I'm supposed to be serving.
	She's like, I'm on salary, so that means that if I care about my job and my clients, and I do, I now am working.
	I was pulling a 50-hour week.
	Now it's closer to 75. Jesus.
	Because the goal was to make it harder.
	Make it harder for these people, even with simpler questions.
	Yeah.
	To collect anything.
	And, you know, she's just like, I care.
	I care a lot, but damn it, it sucks.
	Yeah.
	And there were factual inaccuracies, of course.
	There was no evidence of widespread welfare fraud as suggested by the myth.
	White Americans have consistently been the largest group of welfare recipients, and the stereotype continues to influence public perception and policy debates around welfare and poverty.
	It has contributed to ongoing stigmatization of welfare recipients and resistance to expanding social safety net programs.
	Thank you.
	In summary, the Reagan Welfare Queen myth was based on a real case of fraud but was greatly exaggerated and used to promote harmful stereotypes.
	So, while I have personally known people that abused the system in various ways, no one is living rich and many live in fear of getting caught.
	When they have been caught, the payback has been minimal and usually within their means to cover, as the fraud, if it can be called that, was done between states of living, as in going from assistance to not needing it.
	And by that I mean, like, people that...
	That literally, like I mentioned earlier, they're making cash under the table, they're working a part-time job somewhere, and they've got an agreement like, yeah, I'll come in and wash the dishes for $50 a night or whatever.
	Then they build that on the side to the point that they can afford to tell their caseworker, if they have one, if they're lucky enough and they have one, they can tell their caseworker like, yeah, I don't need this anymore.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to get a raise in my job and it's going to knock it out.
	Now, if they get caught, you know, like let's say they have a spouse that rats them out after they break up or whatever.
	Yeah.
	If they get caught, the payback is usually like, oh, well, you know, you were on benefits for like six months or whatever that you didn't need.
	Yeah.
	You know, because you already have this other sideline.
	Well, you know, payback, whatever.
	You know, it's usually not very harsh.
	Yeah.
	You know.
	Candace then goes on to cherry-pick a speech Senator Obama made at a Father's Day gathering in 2008, just a few months before he would be elected president.
	Candace cherry-picks the parts that echo Reagan and, of course, leaves out the rest of the speech.
	It is several minutes long, but it's actually very good, and in it, Obama said many things about how even single men that kept their child support payments current should be supported in getting things like job training, and how important it was to promote education to kids as they grow up.
	And how single mothers definitely needed support regardless of the reason why they were single moms.
	I won't go through the speech here, but I'll link to it in the show notes.
	Politico has the transcript.
	Candace goes on to jump all over the place in her next set of assertions.
	She quotes from a paper written in 1965 by Daniel Patrick Moynihan for the Office of Family Planning and Research, wherein he claims...
	That at current rates of birth, the black families in America would outpace white births and one of eight Americans would be non-white.
	She then goes on to say, Quote, Margaret Sanger,
	the founder of Planned Parenthood, who is today hailed as a hero for giving women greater control over when they bear children, was one such eugenicist.
	Sanger upheld the popular belief of her day that America needed to hinder those with unfavorable traits from reproducing.
	From 1939 to 1942, Sanger led the Negro Project, an initiative that was purported to combat poverty among Southern blacks by providing family planning education and access to birth control and contraceptives.
	Intentional as she was, Sanger pushed to partner with black ministers who she knew would be instrumental in gaining the trust of the people she was looking to help and might thereby conceal her true motives.
	Sanger wrote to Dr. Clarence Gamble, another leader of the Negro Project, quote, Also, he should be trained, perhaps by the Birth Control Federation of America, as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach.
	While Sanger's appeal to the black community may have been about choice, the fact remains that she openly authored articles in support of, quote, applying a stern and rigid policy of sterilization, end quote, in an effort to ensure the country against future burdens of maintenance for numerous offspring and maybe born of feeble-minded parents.
	So ingratiated were her ideas with the racism of her time that she addressed Ku Klux Klan members to garner her further support for her birth control measures.
	End quote.
	And again we have the Klan invoked.
	So Sanger was an early fan of eugenics.
	That's a known fact.
	And she did, along with other people, start what would become Planned Parenthood.
	It was...
	It went through like three or four fucking name changes.
	I didn't bother to write them all down because it doesn't matter.
	It's Planned Parenthood today.
	Sanger's views would change over time, as would many people that lived to see the end result of eugenic thought being the horrors committed by the Nazis.
	Yeah.
	But in the time between, Sanger did try to work with black doctors and clinics to start black-centered women's health clinics.
	The effort was to provide health care and knowledge of birth control measures.
	Abortion was made illegal in America in the 1910s.
	So the clinics couldn't legally provide that service, but they could help women with health care and information, even with simple measures like how to use condoms.
	Because condoms have almost always been around.
	Yeah.
	Or, God forbid, condom with the pull-out method.
	I mean...
	However, Sanger's vision for the clinics being black-owned and black-centered was marred by a lack of funding, and she had to cede the availability of those clinics to the people that were willing to staff them.
	Candice goes on to properly criticize a heinous practice that occurred in hospitals mostly, known as Mississippi appendectomies.
	A summary I found said, the term Mississippi appendectomy refers to the practice of involuntary sterilization.
	or hysterectomies.
	This practice was prevalent in the southern U.S., especially in Mississippi, from the 1920s to the 1980s.
	Jesus.
	context and practice of this, the term was coined by civil rights activist Fannie Lou Hammer, who herself was a victim of this practice.
	In 1961, Hammer underwent surgery
	God.
	Surgery.
	To remove a uterine tumor, but was instead given a hysterectomy without her knowledge or consent.
	This was a common experience for many black women in Mississippi and other southern states where medical professionals performed unnecessary hysterectomies on poor black women, often without their informed consent as a form of birth control and eugenics.
	So yes, this is terrible.
	And it has rightfully contributed to people in the black community not entirely entrusting doctors and other medical professionals.
	And then we get into the real actual meat of the argument presented here near the end of this chapter.
	Candace quotes a piece from the publication The Washington Examiner, which is another conservative shit rag.
	Okay.
	Anyway, the writer said that with current black birth rates, the black population in America would be almost insignificant in voting power.
	So Candace then goes on to the actual meaning of this buildup, and she says, It's no wonder Democrats have suddenly come out in support of mass illegal immigration as a new victim class to carry their party will be needed in the near future.
	And there we have it.
	Replacement theory, but used for black citizens.
	Candace finishes the chapter by saying, The same people who scream about black incarceration rates, economic disparities, and impoverished neighborhoods never lend their voices in attacks against the welfare system,
	which inspires all three.
	Similarly, is it not a wonder that the same people behind the Black Lives Matter campaign, the ones who claim to care about the unjust slaughter of blacks on the streets, refuse to acknowledge that today the most unsafe place for a black child is in its mother's womb?
	Indeed, perhaps the reason Democrats don't attack these industries is that they are the authors, perpetrators, and main benefactors of their Machiavellian designs.
	Thank you.
	Of course, the pushback here can be found in a few simple facts.
	For one...
	Of all the abortions done over the years after Roe v.
	Wade, only 40% were from black citizens.
	Granted, that's a huge number.
	And also, Candace's statements about welfare as a catch-all term is supposed to call to mind images of lazy people sitting around, maybe watching TV and collecting a check for nothing.
	The truth is, as I stated already, People like Candace and the people she quotes want to remove or cut spending on programs that are already not enough to help people really leave the system.
	When they call to cut spending on welfare, they are calling to cut Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, Social Security, food assistance and housing programs, as well as things such as unemployment and income and housing assistance, school lunches and breakfast, and of course education and education assistance.
	One look at the 2025 project.
	That's the name of it.
	But yes, going back to what I said, this entire chapter seems to be, for the person that bought this book and already agrees with Candace, tacitly, that all government programs are bad not only for taking away from taxpayers and giving it to people, but also for making people dependent on those same programs.
	And then making the link between less births being the case for increased immigration, she sells the idea that it all has to go.
	That's chapter fucking two.
	Jesus.
	For...
	Okay, I really...
	It really confuses me on the, um...
	I mean, where's the...
	Alright.
	Lay it out.
	Go ahead.
	So, welfare, benefits, what have you, all are already not funded enough.
	Yeah.
	But they want to cut the funding on them.
	Yeah.
	And where's that funding gonna go?
	Oh, to the military, probably.
	That's kind of what I figured, bitch.
	Or it's going to just...
	They're gonna go, oh, we don't have the funding for that.
	And as they shut down programs and stuff, as they pay people their last paychecks that work diligently on these things, as they cut the final checks, because a lot of that money is already earmarked, It just won't come from the people that it should be coming from,
	which is the ultra-fucking-rich.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	It's a form of getting to the tax cuts that the wealthy donors of these sick fucks have been pushing at for years.
	Okay.
	Because they desperately need another fucking percentage point.
	Right.
	Okay.
	It would come in the form of lower taxes, which, you know, they would...
	Try to do the trickle-down economics thing, which doesn't work.
	No.
	It just doesn't.
	No.
	But, okay.
	So, following that up.
	Uh-huh. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go for it.
	It just, it makes no sense.
	How is that?
	Because then they're going to complain about, you know, the...
	The homeless and impoverished people.
	Oh, no.
	See, here's the thing.
	Here's the thing, right?
	The people that can't get benefits.
	Like, we have several churches in our area that give out free meals.
	Right?
	Well, I'm sure part of that funding for those free meals comes from their congregants.
	Yeah.
	Or, you know, donors, even.
	But I'm sure part of it also comes from, like, you know, local taxes.
	Yeah.
	You know, whatever office would dole out.
	That version of money for those things.
	So, you know, that's the thing is that these people never really say it, but it's...
	I always read it as being like a genocide on the poor through starvation.
	Okay.
	You know, because if they're not, you know, and that's how they make like a class war happen.
	Yeah.
	Is by...
	Starving people out.
	The people that don't want to do violence and shit will die first.
	And what they don't really realize is that the people that are left will become radicalized by watching people they cared about die.
	Horribly.
	That's the slippery slope.
	And I don't like the slippery slope argument used in any kind of context.
	But that's the slope that they think they'll be insulated from because, you know, we've had several instances where like normal people could have stood up and made a difference and chose not to.
	They chose to sit at home and just go, oh, well, I'll vote.
	Yeah. Well, yeah.
	They've done that long enough that the people in power seem to think, okay, well, you know, if we get rid of the poors by just not feeding them anymore, you know, these are not people that are necessarily going to be able to get a job.
	How many of them are handicapped?
	Yeah.
	Like, how many of them literally couldn't work in a McDonald's, for instance, you know?
	A lot of them can't even fucking afford McDonald's these days.
	That shit got expensive.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that...
	Which is fucking ridiculous that it got that expensive.
	Mm-hmm.
	But, um...
	Alright, so...
	Yeah.
	Have they learned nothing from France?
	They have not, no.
	Okay, okay.
	I just wanted to...
	That's the only thing that really came to mind afterwards, is have they learned nothing from France?
	Because if memory serves, France has done that on more than one occasion.
	They paid the price.
	On more than one occasion.
	They paid the blood price, yeah.
	No, they have not.
	They have not learned from France.
	Yeah, so...
	Or Britain the first time around.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	They have not learned those valuable lessons of history.
	And, yeah, they're gonna, you know...
	These are people that think that they'll outlive it because they've bought, like, beach homes with walls and shit.
	You know?
	Ah, ah, yes.
	Yes, walls.
	Yeah.
	Walls.
	Such, such, such glorious, glorious walls.
	Walls that, you know...
	As Hamas unfortunately proved, you can take down a wall with a bulldozer.
	You can summit a wall with a hang glider.
	There's a lot of ways you can dispose of a wall real easy.
	They're just a block.
	Usually they're not a block of solid rock that's been sitting there for eons.
	They are put together.
	Put together concrete rocks.
	I mean, God.
	It's an authoritarian move that they want to do with this Project 2025 bullshit that, you know, of course Candace is, like, all about.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I haven't, at least I don't think I've heard her take on it yet, but I'm sure I will.
	And, yeah, before we get into the Candace show episodes that we're going to talk about this week, I downloaded...
	I took the time and I downloaded all over 500 because this is...
	Okay, so this is what's fucked up, right?
	Her old YouTube show.
	It goes from...
	If you look at it sequentially, it goes from episode 1 to 241.
	Then something happens where it gets renumbered from the top again, like some fucking reboot.
	It goes from 1 to...
	I think like 80 or 90. I don't remember.
	I was just downloading and moving them into my hard drive.
	But then like it picks up again at 242 and then goes to like 481 or some shit like that whenever she got fired from the Daily Wire.
	Here's the thing though.
	It's not a full run.
	That second run is not a full run from 241 to firing.
	There are several episodes near the end that are not available.
	Okay.
	Probably the reasons why she got fired.
	Possibly.
	Yeah.
	So I'm going to be on sort of a sub-journey to find those missing episodes, to find those missing numbers.
	I think it's like six total.
	Okay.
	Maybe less.
	But yeah, anybody who goes looking for her show on YouTube will only find her new show.
	The Daily Wire got rid of her original Candace Owens podcast show.
	Yeah.
	So I had to go find all those episodes because I was like, I don't want these fucks.
	To take away all of these.
	If there was something like, we don't know how lawsuits work.
	There could very well be a lawsuit for some shit she said in those episodes.
	But I also don't trust Benny Shapps and his legal people to give those willingly to a lawyer or somebody.
	Those should be hidden away on a hard drive such as my own.
	And I will be uploading them to...
	A Google Drive as well, so there's always backup.
	Yeah.
	But, yeah.
	So now I have to find those other episodes.
	I may be able to find them on a Torrent.
	I don't know.
	I'm kind of hoping somebody archived them on Internet Archive somewhere.
	I haven't looked yet, because I was just desperate to just get what I could.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	I do have all of those.
	But now, we can get into what I assume the audience really comes here for, which is the oral abuse.
	Provided by listening to clips and commentary of the new Candace show.
	This week we are only focusing on two episodes of her show.
	One from the second week and one from the third.
	There is a tie binding the two episodes and it's September 11, 2001.
	Now, Matthew here wasn't born yet when 9-11 occurred and his older siblings were just little kids at that time.
	So they've all pretty much grown up in the post-9-11 world.
	That, of course, is going to be more common moving into the future.
	As for me, I know where I was when the towers were hit, and it was cooking in a restaurant on Jacksonville Beach in Florida.
	One of our guys was listening to the news on his earbuds while he was doing prep, and he convinced the manager to turn the kitchen radio over to the news.
	I was scheduled off soon after the first plane hit and I was allowed to leave early.
	Driving home, it was like everything had stopped in a normally bustling area of commerce.
	People were mostly off the roads or had pulled over and looked like they were listening in their cars or staring at TVs like the ones we had in our bar.
	I got home and my roommates, who were normally fighting with each other, were glued to the couch in silence.
	I grabbed a few beers, handed them out, and joined them.
	Yes, it was the morning.
	They were in college and I was a day drinker, so whatever.
	Yeah. Yeah.
	Like most of the people we knew, we were watching as the towers came down and the news came in that the Pentagon had been struck.
	On and on it all went.
	I don't remember much else in the next few days or weeks as I had a full-time job in school, but I remember how crazy everything was.
	It was all unavoidable, and growing up as I had, I barely knew any Muslims.
	I just knew that my cult upbringing hadn't prepared me to deal with them in any sane way.
	But I knew the cult was wrong, of course.
	I did what I could to befriend Muslims and at the very least be an ally.
	Even though their way of life was much different from my own, I would learn a lot as they opened up and shit got crazier in the world around all of us.
	I don't think Candace has ever had the benefit of an open mind.
	I say this as I have my phone downloading all of her episodes that are still up from her old Daily Wire show.
	That was true the other day when I wrote this.
	Episodes I never listened to, but will eventually do, as we plan to cover her journey in madness from the period after her book was published up to the present day.
	Which is the plan after this show has wrapped on the book.
	I think it's one of the reasons why I was so driven to just get through chapter two.
	Because for one thing, it's a short fucking chapter.
	I didn't think it really deserved two episodes.
	But also, I want to get through Blackout so that it's on the record.
	But we can then start going back in time.
	You know, maybe spend the first hour of the show going back in time to an old Candace show and being like, look at this crazy shit.
	Yeah.
	And then moving forward.
	Okay.
	Now...
	So, along with Candace Owens' show, I'll also be pulling anything else along for the ride.
	I'm doing this because I do, on some level, enjoy exposing the grift.
	On another level, though, I enjoy saying no to her bullshit.
	With either my own opinion or, whenever possible, actual evidence that she's wrong.
	Today, I get to do both.
	I mention 9-11 at the top of this because, for one thing, I rarely think about it much, and aside from the actual yearly time period of it, it almost never comes up in the world.
	Except with crackpots.
	And such was the case on Candace episode 9 of her second week and 12 of the third week.
	I mentioned my thoughts last week that Candace was, is, and may have always been anti-Semitic or at least anti-Jewish.
	With these 9-11 episodes, it's on full display.
	I say this because, in her own words, Candace always says vile shit on her show, and she may even, if pressed, say that all of this is entertainment, but I don't believe it is.
	Because the core element of entertainment or comedy is truth, if it's either.
	But the kind of person that would find this stuff funny or entertaining is also going to agree with it.
	As either true or mostly true.
	With that said, this episode of this show is going to contain offensive, untrue, anti-Jewish content.
	I'm not calling it anti-Semitic anymore.
	Not in regards to Candace, because Candace has demonstrated in responding to a viewer letter that she knows that cultures outside of Judaism are also Semitic.
	So, you've all been warned.
	Let's get this started.
	Oh boy.
	Candace starts off episode 9 of her second week back.
	Let me make sure my volume is all the way up here.
	There we go.
	Talking about YouTube or TikTok celebrities and how she finds certain ones distasteful.
	She'll get into more of that later, and we'll skip over it.
	For now, though...
	It's the conspiracy theory that never seems to go away.
	9-11!
	Yes, the live chat yesterday was lit.
	They were demanding that we discuss it.
	You know what?
	I'm a chronic people pleaser, so let's do it.
	All that coming up on Candace.
	music
	I always forget about her fucking opening.
	So every time I hear it, it's like, what is this almost occultish, like, chant sound I hear?
	Like, the fuck?
	Yeah, that was the end of the cold open on her show and her theme song.
	Then we get this.
	Where were you on 9-11?
	I mean, if you're a millennial like me, the terrorist attack left an indelible mark upon your childhood.
	I know exactly where I was.
	I will never forget it.
	I was sitting in music class in my middle school, and the principal came over to the speaker and said, a plane has hit a tower in New York City, and I will never forget what my music teacher said, Mr. Gregory.
	He said, why are they interrupting class to tell us this?
	And then some time passed and they interrupted again over the speakerphone and said a second plane has hit a tower in New York City.
	And I want to be clear, I'm from Stanford, Connecticut, which means that many of the parents worked in New York City.
	It's a very close Stanford to New York City.
	They'd wake up, they'd take the train, and they would go to the city.
	So then a mass panic ensued.
	Parents started showing up, picking up students early.
	I left with one of my friends.
	And who could forget what happened thereafter?
	I think all across America, we were doing the same thing.
	We were huddled around televisions, waiting for the news to be updated minute by minute.
	In my household, we had one of those big, clunky, rather unfashionable big screen TVs, and we just sat there and watched.
	I want to be clear.
	This was the land and the time before smartphones.
	There were no independent media voices that were offering reports.
	There was no Twitter.
	There was no social media on Instagram.
	And I think now, obviously, we appreciate how significant independent voices are, especially in times of high confusion.
	I mean, from COVID vaccines to Russia collusion, we now very much understand that the mainstream media is capable of getting it wrong and also capable of telling massive lies.
	So what immediately followed the September 11th terrorist attack was, as I reflect upon it in the retrospect, now that I'm an adult, a married mother, 35 years old, and my brain is developed, I recognize Soviet tactics of brainwashing that
	took place thereafter.
	I mean, every day.
	So, yep.
	9-11 and all that came after was a Soviet-style brainwashing.
	News to me.
	So then Candace goes on to say this.
	I mean, every day, I was an 11-year-old child, 11-year-old, 12-year-old child.
	We were being told to stand for a moment of silence at 9-11 a.m.
	So picture little kids, 10, 11, 12, standing up for a moment of silence.
	And then over the speakerphone, they would tell us to think about and to remember the people that had died.
	Yeah, we were thinking about death every day at 9-11 a.m.
	Now, she just mentioned how close New York City is to Stanford.
	Yeah.
	And I've mentioned it before.
	It's like 35 to 40 miles.
	Mm-hmm.
	She mentioned how parents went in on the train every day.
	Yeah.
	Real fucking close.
	Mm-hmm.
	How many parents worked in New York City?
	It's likely that many of them, being that close to ground zero, knew people that had died.
	Yeah.
	The mass trauma must have been incredibly heavy.
	And looking back on it as a mother with a quote, fully developed brain, she can only complain about being asked to observe a moment of silence from one of the worst attacks on America in decades, as people she knew mourned the loss of people, places, and their own fucking innocence.
	Going on from there.
	Oh, Christ.
	A couple of years later, I entered high school and my older sister's boyfriend made me watch a documentary.
	It was called Loose Change.
	I will never forget it.
	Never ever forget it.
	I came out of watching that documentary, which I think if you looked it up today, it would say conspiracy theories about 9/11, but irrespective of how they want to categorize it, at the very least, you came out of it recognizing
	Everything was told to the public about that day.
	Don't need to go too far.
	Yep.
	Fucking loose change.
	I want to see if it pops up with what she said it will.
	Oh yeah, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, close is not a word.
	Loose change.
	Okay, film series.
	Okay, okay.
	It does say certain conspiracy theories related to September 11th.
	Yeah.
	I just wanted to see if that would actually pop up as conspiracy theories.
	Oh, you have no idea.
	Okay.
	You have no idea, but you're about to learn a little bit.
	Alright.
	For those who don't know, the people that listen to Knowledge Fight on a regular just screamed.
	Yeah.
	Like I did in my car the first time I heard her say, loose change.
	Okay.
	They may have to throw an object.
	For the rest of you, I'll sum up why.
	Loose Change is a documentary in the sense that the filmmaker had a specific view in mind.
	Loose Change is a movie made by a truther that really didn't have facts or evidence to support his claims.
	But since Candace seems to have wanted to believe whatever reality made the most sense to her, apparently this film stuck out.
	Now, there were several versions of Loose Change that were made.
	Alex Jones loves to associate himself with the film, but he didn't fucking make it.
	He was a producer.
	On a version.
	But because he's mentioned and he is, people assume that he had something to do with the movie.
	He fucking did not.
	He has a producer credit on one of the many revisions.
	That's it.
	And there are several revisions with updated bullshit.
	The films argue that the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings was due to controlled demolition, rather than the impact of the planes and subsequent fires.
	They claim that the Pentagon was not hit by American Airlines Flight 77, but by a missile or another aircraft.
	The phone calls made from United Airlines Flight 93 were fabricated.
	The U.S. government had prior knowledge of the attacks and allowed them to happen or directly orchestrated them as a false flag operation.
	Go ahead.
	Firstly, if these attacks of planes hadn't have happened, then that would automatically get rid of the one of two options that they either directly were involved in it or knew about it and refused to do anything.
	Knowing about it and refusing to do anything means that it was not an orchestrated attack by them.
	Which then dismisses all other things.
	The other thing is...
	It's kind of hard to fabricate...
	Okay, actually, hang on.
	I think I remember somebody trying to sell me on this before.
	That somebody placed thermite charges...
	Yeah, this is where it is.
	At the...
	Like, center point?
	Yeah.
	And then the planes hitting it is what ignited the thermite charges that actually caused all of the damage, which still means that the plane hitting it caused the issue.
	Well, you know, they say thermite.
	They may also mean Semtex, which is the Israeli military version of C4, to put it simply.
	Don't come at me, bomb nerds.
	To put it simply, I'm saying that because of where we're going with this.
	And I don't like any of it.
	But yeah, controlled demolition is one of the many, many, many fucking things.
	Yeah, I don't understand where they get the controlled demolition portion because you'd have to...
	Oh, you know, because jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
	I swear to God, that's something I've heard thousands of fucking times.
	Well, that's...
	Never mind that the planes that were...
	The attackers, they know this.
	They chose the flights they did because the planes were taking off from Boston.
	Yeah.
	They had full fuel, or close to it, when they got near New York.
	And they did that so that they would have the maximum damage impact.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if they intended for the towers to come down, but they certainly intended for it to be a big fucking bruise.
	Yeah, they definitely intended for a fire to happen.
	Yeah.
	Which, steel beams...
	The jet fuel burns extremely fucking hot.
	Yeah, it does.
	Particularly when a fully loaded aircraft hits a goddamn building.
	Yeah.
	You would have an explosion if a small plane hit a house.
	There have been explosions of...
	Of planes just hitting the ground.
	Has nobody ever looked at the explosion impact of a fucking fueled plane that has crashed into the ground?
	Yeah, you got all kinds of...
	Look, you were fortunate to have grown up in the era so far post-9-11 that all of that shit had been exhausted for a long fucking time.
	Just squirreled away to the darker corners of the internet.
	Places that you, even in your darker corners of the internet brain, have not found.
	But was front page fucking news, even on Fox forever.
	I know this because other people kept playing Fox News around me for a long time.
	I just...
	Yeah.
	Fucking...
	It's always the thermite charges, or the controlled C4 at the center of the building, or if you put the explosives in the basement on the low-bearing pillars and then set them off, it'll bring the whole building down.
	Well, never mind that they already tried to do that.
	Yeah.
	Do you know about the bombing of the World Trade Center that happened in the underground garage?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, they tried to do that.
	Yeah, it didn't fucking work.
	No, it was very ineffective.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it was very ineffective.
	Like, I think it killed a few people because, you know, it's a fucking parking garage under the World Trade Center that's full, but yeah, it didn't work.
	Yeah, it didn't do its intended job of taking down the towers.
	Because it was one van.
	Yeah.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	I forget that it's one van.
	It was one van.
	They didn't even get, like, a fleet of them.
	They got one dude.
	See, I feel like where they failed there...
	God, I'm not trying to make this work, but...
	Okay.
	No.
	I would say that, you know, bin Laden's plan worked better than projected.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's a real under-promise, over-deliver situation.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	It was likely, like you said, probably just meant to be a bruise, you know, cause an explosion, cause some fire, but not, like, actually take down the tower.
	Yeah.
	Well, false flags.
	You heard her say that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's a phrase that the alt-right loves to use as often as possible.
	Oh, yeah, I'm using that.
	I didn't come up with it, but I'm taking it and I'm using it every time I can.
	All right.
	Even to describe their own violence at events like J6, because they, January 6th, for those of you uninformed, I don't think that's anyone in this audience, though, because they can't take credit for being terrible.
	Anyway.
	The claims made in loose change have been widely debunked by journalists, independent researchers, and experts in the fields of engineering and aviation.
	Critics argue that the film misrepresents evidence, relies on selective quoting, and promotes scientifically unsound theories.
	For example, the structural collapse of the World Trade Center has been extensively studied, and the consensus among experts is that the buildings collapsed due to the impact of the planes and the resulting fires, not controlled demolition.
	and then we get this sniff
	But there's no question that we were not told everything about that day, and that many questions were not being answered.
	I mean, some of the things that we were even told make entirely no sense.
	For example, we were told that the terrorist attacks were executed by the Saudis, remember?
	Which totally explains why we then decided to go to war with Iraq, who had weapons of mass destruction.
	And who can forget how the newscasters told the public that they were definitely sure that it was the Saudis?
	Don't remember?
	Let's revisit it.
	Let's go back to 2001 and watch this clip from our trusted news source, CNN.
	Take a listen.
	Another development on Saturday, New York officials revealed at a news conference here in the city that a hijacker's passport was found blocks from the World Trade Center crash site, if you can believe that.
	No other details were given, but the discovery prompted the FBI and police to expand the search area down in lower Manhattan.
	I like how even the newscaster says, if you can believe that, because nope, nope, I refuse to believe that, and you should not either.
	You are telling me that somebody hijacked a plane, got onto the plane, crashed the plane, the plane exploded into fire, tower collapsed, they could not even find all of the human remains.
	But in all of this, in all of the fire, in the collapse of the building, in all of the dust, In all the struggle, they found, and didn't give any details of how or who found it, the passport.
	The little paper passport survived everything.
	And they go, oh, well, look, this is one of the hijackers.
	This is one of the Saudi hijackers.
	He must have dropped his passport from the sky before he flew the plane into the building, and somehow they couldn't even find the audio boxes, the black boxes from the plane.
	But they have the passport.
	So, here it is.
	Yeah, nope, not going for that.
	Then, of course, there are those...
	Yeah, so, your thoughts before I continue.
	Okay.
	Now, granted, I'm ignorant beyond this point on this.
	I'm sure I'm about to not be ignorant on this.
	You won't be, yep.
	The...
	Okay.
	Go for it.
	Explosions such as the one caused tend to make debris go in a widespread fucking area.
	Even an explosion that is contained can often lead to debris flying way the fuck out.
	That is why things like hand grenades are lethal within a blast radius.
	And still harmful within an even further blast radius outside of that because shrapnel flies.
	Something as light as a passport book?
	I could imagine that going after just flying away.
	It's not implausible.
	It's not implausible.
	It's not impossible.
	Is it very rare?
	Yes.
	But it's still...
	Debris from a fucking explosion.
	I wish it was that simple.
	It's actually dumber.
	God damn it.
	And also, the black box is not being recovered.
	I don't know if that part's...
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	But also, the black box is usually stored within the cabin of the plane.
	Well, not always.
	For security reasons, yeah.
	It's not always clear where they are.
	Okay.
	Like, the authorities know where they should be.
	But it's not always clear.
	Yeah, it's not always clear.
	It should be in the cabin because they're recording everything.
	But a plane is a finite amount of space.
	That's why sometimes they're like, we haven't recovered the black box yet on a crash.
	But yeah, they're a piece of the plane.
	They can fly miles under the right conditions.
	Not to mention that, but also black boxes are not indestructible.
	You can destroy a black box.
	If an explosion has enough force and can cause enough damage to a building's structure to make it, I don't know, collapse...
	Yeah.
	One of the tallest buildings in the world at the time.
	And, remind me again, the tower set...
	Correction, the plane set the towers, like, what, mid to the highest point?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, between the middle to the top, yeah.
	That's a lot of room for everything to come crashing down.
	As it did, yeah.
	On a black box that, while hard to destroy, are not indestructible.
	You know why they call them a black box?
	Because they're a little black box, right?
	No, they're like orange.
	Yeah, they're like orange, but they're called black because when the flame retardant all burns off, the box looks cooked.
	That's why they call them black boxes.
	It's because that's what they look like after everything's done.
	They're charred to shit.
	If it's in an explosion that caused steel beams to melt, and a lot of concrete to fall, of course they're not going to recover the fucking black boxes.
	Not right away.
	Not right away, if ever.
	I'm pretty sure they did, but...
	Yeah.
	So, let's get into this.
	Alright.
	If Candice...
	I almost called her Condis.
	Fuck me.
	I want to call her Condis now because she's a fucking con artist.
	If Candis...
	Gonna do it right.
	If Candis bothered to do basic research on the passport story, she would have learned that the passport was found blocks away from the initial crash before the towers came down.
	It was thought to have been discarded by the hijacker on the way to the airport.
	A local person found it and gave it to a cop that was nearby.
	It then made its way through the system and was instrumental in the investigation into everything that happened.
	It was found and turned in on 9-11 before the events unfolded.
	The passport bore all the markers of an Al-Qaeda forgery, and being a forgery, it may have been discarded for that reason, as some of the 19 hijackers had U.S. IDs and driver's licenses.
	Anyway, before we move on, you have any thoughts on that?
	Honestly, I could see why they dropped their forged passport.
	Yeah, like in a trash can.
	It was found in a trash can by a passerby.
	They found it.
	They were giving the passport to a cop.
	Okay, so then in that regard, then yeah, of course they found the fucking passport because the planes hadn't been hijacked yet.
	Yeah, it wasn't, you know, and like the cop probably was just going to file it away as, you know, whatever.
	Yeah.
	You know, lost passport.
	But then, you know, everything fucking happens and now this cop is holding this fucking passport.
	Yeah.
	That he then gives to the FBI.
	And the FBI are like, yeah, this has all the hallmarks of an Al-Qaeda forgery.
	Yeah.
	It was honestly probably sitting, you know, in their lockup that they have for that sort of thing.
	Yeah.
	And then, you know, they go, oh, hey, Chief, I found a fucking passport.
	Yeah.
	Should we get someone to look into this?
	Yeah.
	And then, you know, of course, FBI shows up and goes, yeah, we found a passport, because FBI always takes credit for everything.
	Yeah, well, you know, well, like, they get that, plus all the other evidence that they had.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't like the plane hit and then, oh, from the sky, here's the passport.
	No.
	It was in a fucking garbage can.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, like...
	See, that's far more plausible than what I was thinking.
	Yeah.
	Well, I had the same thought you did when I heard her say that.
	I was like...
	Well, I mean, it's not impossible.
	And then I looked into it and I was like, you stupid, stupid person.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Do you believe that 9-11 was an inside job, a false flag event?
	And those people are deemed the craziest because how dare they?
	How dare they question that narrative?
	How dare you think that your government could be involved in a false flag attack at all?
	Well, let me tell you something, sweetheart.
	You don't have to believe that 9-11 was an inside job, but you better tether yourself to the understanding that false flag events are a reality.
	Not an imagination, not a conspiracy theory.
	It is a reality.
	And you want to know how we know that?
	Well, you can just look this up on Wikipedia, if you don't believe me.
	Because a former sitting president, who was subsequently assassinated in the back of a car next to his wife, JFK, he refused to sign off on a false flag event.
	The CIA came to him.
	This is called Operation Northwood.
	You should look this up if you think that I'm making this up.
	The CIA came to JFK and they said, we have an operation.
	We want to go to war with Cuba.
	Okay?
	And he said, we have some ideas of how we're going to get the American public on our side.
	How we're going to get public sentiment to shift so that they want war.
	And what we think we should do is stage a false flag event.
	Pretend that Cuba is attacking America when in reality it's not.
	It's really us.
	One idea.
	That they floated was a fabricated shoot-down of a U.S. Air Force plane.
	They also floated blowing up a U.S. ship.
	And other ideas that they had were just to orchestrate a series of terror attacks on United States citizens.
	They thought maybe in Miami, maybe in D.C., we'll just start killing people and blaming the Cubans.
	And JFK said, this is maniacal.
	I absolutely will not sign off on a false flag event against American citizens.
	In order to get them to agree for us to go to war with Cuba.
	So yeah, those things do actually happen in the world.
	And there were plenty of Americans who thought that it was, at the very least, incredibly suspicious during 9-11, shortly thereafter, when this segment ran, also back in 2002, on ABC News as an update to a prior segment that they had done.
	Take a listen.
	So let's just pause here.
	I actually did look this up and Candace isn't wrong about this story.
	This was declassified in 1997.
	But since nothing came of warring with Cuba after the killing of JFK, I would say that the people involved scrapped the entire plan.
	My own feelings on the killing of JFK are honestly that Lee Harvey Oswald was a gifted and lucky shot and also fucked in the head.
	I've always personally had issue with the supposition that there was a vast conspiracy to have JFK killed because when you consider how many people would have had to have been involved and how hard it can be to get anyone to hold the simplest of secrets it just unravels quickly.
	But here of course was Candace blaming the CIA for killing a sitting president.
	Considering how inept they would be at all their other assassination attempts over history I have always found it hard to believe.
	But Candace goes on and plays a segment from a news source that she doesn't credit from back around 9-11.
	It's about a group of Israeli men that were thought to be celebrating the planes striking the towers from the Jersey side.
	The men were held for 71 days and eventually sent back to Israel when it was determined that they weren't involved in 9-11.
	This is known as the Dancing Israelis Theory, and I don't want to spend time on it further.
	Candace playing the new segment, which is about three minutes long, is to set up her audience.
	Candace goes on to, it could be said rightfully, bemoan how America changed after 9-11, especially if one was traveling via airports.
	The criticisms are valid, and she gets into how the Patriot Act was passed and how America stepped into what seemed a series of endless wars in the Middle East.
	Again, valid.
	But I always wait for the hammer to fall when someone like her says some things pretty much anyone can agree on.
	It's always a series of logic jabs right before the haymaker.
	Candace says she's just asking questions, and then we get...
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	All right, guys, it's time to get into some stories.
	You've got some crazy ones.
	That's right.
	It was a setup for an ad.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, but she...
	Did she really just use 9-11?
	And the build-up to war.
	To sell.
	Americanfinance.net.
	They're not even good enough to be a.com.
	They couldn't be bothered to be a.com.
	Oh my god.
	I'm a network.
	What the fuck?
	Oh. Oh.
	The least she could do is get her fucking facts straight.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If that's what she was gonna use it for.
	Yeah, but no.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, but also no.
	Why the fuck?
	Yeah.
	Oh my Christ.
	Okay.
	I see what you meant by she's a terrible, terrible human being, and that's what we'd be getting into.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, there's still so much more show to go.
	Oh, my crap.
	Now, I think this was just an opportune moment.
	But Candace is skilled at weaving her stories into her ads.
	This is what also makes her whole thing formidable in a way that reminds me of Alex Jones in his prime.
	She gets the smooth brains in her web and then strikes with the sales pitch, making it make sense at the top and then drilling into it.
	I don't like saying she's good at anything.
	But listening to this straight through, I laughed at how effective it all probably is on her key audience.
	It also has always struck me as funny how all of these conservative dingbats have some sort of financial advertisers and how many I used to see on Fox News way back.
	Like, these are supposedly fiscally responsible people.
	You know?
	They shouldn't need services like this on the whole.
	But my experience living with these types of people was almost always the opposite.
	Even the wealthy ones were so laughably terrible with money, it was a wonder they didn't wipe themselves out every year.
	Like, a lot of wealthy people that I ever worked for lived in debt.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Like, they just lived in debt.
	Almost constantly.
	It was a wonder I got paid.
	That I didn't get an IOU check or some shit.
	And knowing that, I roll up to mansions in my day job now and I always wonder what do these fuckers owe for all this?
	One of my friends We slept down in Texas.
	Yeah.
	Worked for a guy that was, like...
	He was super wealthy.
	And he owned a bar.
	But he, like, would barely ever...
	Like, he barely ever had the money to actually pay everyone.
	Yeah.
	And he would, like, scalp their tips to have the money to pay everyone.
	Yeah.
	And she worked as a DJ at the bar.
	And she was...
	She was sitting outside and she was explaining her, you know...
	The zombie game that she was running.
	Yes, I'm a D&D nerd and I play in a zombie TTRPG.
	And no one is shocked.
	Go on.
	And she was explaining how things were going and how there had been an EMP set off and all that.
	And then her fucking boss comes outside and starts spouting off just the ideal audience member for Candice.
	And Sam just sits there and goes, um, no.
	That's not how this works.
	And he goes, well, you know, the Russians and they got nukes and they'll strike us.
	She went, no, no, they're more likely to EMP.
	Because if they destroy the land they're trying to take over, there's no fucking point.
	Or then there's always, like, what, the neutrino bomb or something that just kills people but leaves buildings intact?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like, whatever.
	The supposed bomb that they created that could wipe out the entire states with just one hit to the center, and it's like, um...
	Closest thing you got to that is the Odin weapon system, which, how long has that been setting up in space for again?
	Way too fucking long to be useful anymore.
	Right.
	I mean, if it's even a thing.
	Yeah.
	So, that was all we're going to cover in Episode 9. But we've got a whole other ass episode.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	Moving on to the next episode in our examination, we land on her follow-up to 9-11, Episode 12, which is titled, More shocking revelations about 9-11.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah, well, she starts with this.
	All right, guys, so the comment section on last week's episode pertaining to 9-11, it was insane.
	I'm telling you, like, as the kids are saying these days, it was lit.
	It's absolutely lit.
	So I knew that I had to do a follow-up episode because you guys sent me down an entire rabbit hole.
	I mean, this is probably not even going to be the last episode on it.
	Because seriously, what in the world happened on 9-11?
	And the topic, by the way, is timely.
	Because yesterday, it was announced that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, will walk free.
	Now, if you do not know who Julian Assange is, the torment that this man has been through for the crime of telling the truth, then you have got to pay attention.
	9-11 is the single most important event of our lifetimes.
	If we were intentionally lied to about it, then the question is...
	To what end?
	Let's talk about it.
	We're going to be in a lot of trouble after today.
	Welcome back to Candace.
	Yeah, I cut it out there.
	We don't need to sit through the fucking theme song twice.
	Okay, thank you for that.
	Yeah.
	But, um...
	Fuck, what did she just say?
	My brain just deleted it.
	She said that...
	They're going to be in trouble, and she talked about Julian Assange for a bit.
	Before Julian Assange, something about...
	It was 9-11.
	Yeah.
	That it's not going to be the last time that she covers it, and her comments section, because she reads the comments sections.
	Right!
	That!
	If she's going to get...
	As a 19-year-old, if she's going to try and get, as the current generation, if she's referring to my grouping of it...
	I might not talk like them, but they don't say lit.
	They say, man, that shit is fire, or that was some Gucci shit, man.
	You know, they don't say lit.
	Lit is not this generation.
	Oh, she loves that word.
	She loves that word.
	It's her generation's thing to say lit.
	What kills me is she's not much younger than me.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	How old is she?
	I'm born in 1989, so nine years.
	Eight, nine years, something like that?
	Still, she's using the wrong fucking grammar if she's referring to the current generation.
	She really shouldn't be.
	No, she really shouldn't be.
	It's fire.
	It's not that difficult to...
	Listen, what I spare you and the audience from, because I don't want to cover her bad takes on it.
	Okay.
	Celebrity shit.
	Okay.
	Or little kids, like, rapping.
	What?
	I swear to God, yeah.
	I skip over all of that.
	I cut it out, because I don't want to fucking deal with it.
	Okay.
	But yeah, and she claims recently that this little kid rapper, I think he might be nine years old, according to her, I have not looked into this child because I do not care enough.
	Okay.
	She claims that this dude, Little RT, is...
	You're going to look him up now.
	Okay, she claims that this kid, Little RT, is nine years old and is illiterate.
	All right.
	And now, she played a little bit, and not very good audio.
	She played a little bit of him rapping something.
	And, um...
	Yeah, I mean, maybe he has decent flow.
	I can't tell.
	Sounded like maybe he was going along with the beat?
	You got him pulled up there?
	What's the deets?
	Okay.
	So, Little RT is actually 10 years old as of this year.
	Also known as Mr. 60 Miles.
	Okay.
	And full name is Lil R-T.
	L-I-L-R-T.
	Okay.
	Yeah, Lil.
	Like Lil Retweet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Let's see, let's see.
	Asked if he was illiterate.
	I doubt he is.
	I doubt it.
	Oh, that's actually a search.
	It was number 11 on the search.
	Yes, because the internet is filled with racists and homophobes, yes.
	Uh...
	There's no...
	He cannot be a modern child in America and be illiterate at that age.
	I'm sorry.
	He might have trouble reading.
	Maybe he's dyslexic.
	But I doubt that this 10-year-old child whose parents got him on TikTok is illiterate.
	The only...
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	The only thing that I'm seeing on here, for him being illiterate, is he's neurodivergent and has a hard time reading.
	Okay.
	So, in other words, he's...
	And apparently he's thrown a couple fits about it, but also, he's ten years fucking old.
	Yeah.
	He's a kid.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't write his own stuff, from what it seems, but, I mean, who cares?
	Who cares?
	Yeah.
	That's, you know, like...
	So, you know, it's...
	Well, look, I think that she goes into that shit.
	Mm-hmm.
	For two reasons.
	One, it gives her a difference of something to talk about, so she's not...
	Possibly so she's not repeating the same shit that, say, Fox News is.
	Yeah.
	Also, I think Candace, just like Alex Jones, secretly worships celebrity culture and wishes that it was part of her world.
	Okay. But also, maybe a third thing, if we want to go there, is that if she were to talk about what's in the news, she would have to address things like...
	Yeah.
	Or the fact that a judge released a lot of the Epstein files recently.
	And Trump met Melania in 2005.
	In 2004, and going back in time, he was pestering Jeffrey Epstein about getting young girls.
	And there's at least one witness who claimed that she was forced into having sex with Trump when she was like 14. Through Epstein.
	She dropped the case four days before the election.
	Something like that.
	That's what I read anyway.
	She dropped the case before the election because of death threats she was getting.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, even her as an adult couldn't quite get away from everything.
	Yeah.
	If Candace was to discuss what's in the news, she would have to talk about shit like that.
	Instead, like I said, she talked about Little RT, fucking Cardi B. But as always,
	we'll let Candace speak for herself.
	Candace goes on to talk about the release of Julian Assange from prison, which I won't comment on, as I've found the work of WikiLeaks to have been both good and bad over time.
	I never looked into the specifics of what was done there, but since Assange is often a beloved figure on the Candace side of politics, I have my reservations about the man.
	Candace plays a long clip of Julian Assange asserting that the United States never intended to win in Iraq or Afghanistan.
	It's from 2012.
	It was all always supposed to be an endless war.
	To which I say, duh, it always was.
	Even when the USA and the USSR were running the Cold War, we fought proxy battles and conflicts by arming opposite sides.
	Anyone that ever grew up knowing anyone in the military would tell you the same shit.
	Anyway, the reason Candace seems to be opening the 9-11 show this way is...
	There he is.
	Telling us right to our faces, listen, they want to have never-ending wars, and what they're doing is they are laundering money.
	So now you probably are understanding where I am getting this idea from because it's so evident.
	Everywhere you look, Ukraine, Israel, Afghanistan, they're constantly telling us that there is some new cause.
	You guys, get to work.
	Work hard.
	Your tax dollars, we're going to send them overseas, and then the Pentagon's going to go, whoopsies!
	Yep, she's using this to wrap the Ukraine war into how the conservative movement sees the action in Afghanistan and the funding of the Gaza genocide together as one group.
	Candace goes on later to deadname Chelsea Manning and discusses several of the stories that WikiLeaks broke, including alleged assaults by Americans on civilians in the Middle East theater.
	The stories are terrible and the information WikiLeaks provided was important, but I saw little movement or concern on it among the Republicans I knew in the heyday of the site.
	People shrugged it off back then and mainstream Republicans also didn't seem to care about WikiLeaks until the Orange Emperor said he liked them.
	That was in the 2016 run-up to the election.
	He said, I love WikiLeaks.
	Yeah.
	Because they were going to produce information on Hillary Clinton and stuff.
	Naturally, he liked them.
	Yeah.
	But I'd also like to point out that Trump had several years to smooth out the troubles Julian Assange was going through legally.
	And he did nothing.
	Because even having a name Trump knew well and spoke of highly wasn't enough for him to lift a finger, not even a middle finger, to support Assange.
	He let the man go to prison.
	Eventually.
	Like, he holed up in an Argentinian embassy.
	Yeah.
	And he went crazy in there.
	Yeah.
	Like, he couldn't leave for anything.
	And people that visited him over time, his friends, that visited him over time so that he got worse and worse.
	To explain a little bit, Julian Assange started a site called WikiLeaks.
	He took information from people all over the world about their governments, like generally government insiders sent WikiLeaks information that they couldn't get out to the press.
	Well, Assange, I don't remember the specifics on it, but I think Assange wasn't going to name Chelsea Manning, who at the time was an army private.
	Named Bradley Manning.
	Okay.
	Bradley Manning went to prison, got fully transitioned, came out as Chelsea Manning, and was released.
	Okay.
	So, Chelsea Manning has become a Twitch streamer and all kinds of stuff, very politically active, very cool in interviews.
	Very, very fucking cool.
	But, yeah, she...
	Candace, dead named.
	Chelsea Manning.
	You know the deadname process, right?
	No.
	It's when, like, well, you've had friends that have transitioned or are in phase of it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Deadnaming is when someone uses their old name intentionally as an asshole.
	Yeah.
	Like, if you know someone that has, like, in this case, Chelsea Manning, Candace deadnamed her as saying Bradley Manning, and that was intentional shit.
	Yeah, it's not like in this regard if you were a friend of her before.
	Yeah, it's not making a mistake, it's being an intentional shitbag.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so.
	Yeah.
	Going back to the Hammer analogy, I waited for why Candace was bringing up WikiLeaks at all, considering the subject of this show.
	She brings it up in defense of how, according to her, people are less educated today.
	Or we're too dumb because of big education, sending kids to school to get degrees in gender studies, getting people to focus on the social issues like racism, CRT.
	These people can't compute.
	They can't perform basic or exhibit basic mathematical capacity.
	These people can't even pass basic literacy exam.
	Or the last component is we're too brainwashed or too scared to say anything if we're not brainwashed.
	That's how they're doing it.
	So they have people believing what the media is saying.
	People who know the media is lying, but they're scared to say anything because, well, look at what they did to Julian Assange.
	I'll tell you guys in the 9-11 comments section from last week, you guys were dropping all sorts of tidbits.
	Happy at the edge of my seat.
	Yep, and then we get into the real meat of this rotten oyster.
	And I began researching things I had never even heard of, and I am now completely shaken.
	So yeah, I showed you guys that video of the Israelis who were celebrating.
	It turned out that they had connections to the Israeli intelligence apparatus, and the FBI pretty much just let him go for whatever reason.
	I said, okay, we looked into it, no further follow-up.
	Then that sort of got memory holed.
	Memory holed is an expression where they basically never talk about it again, and then we all just forget that it never happens, and we move on.
	Well, one of you guys commented and said that I should look into the Israelis that were working at the World Trade Center who were forewarned of the attack.
	And oh my...
	Yep, this is going to get rough.
	My God, yes.
	That is another thing after I researched.
	That has been completely memory-holed, but it is true.
	So I'm going to show you guys, by the way, because before they say, I'm a conspiracy theorist, I had to make sure that I had all the relevant documents, all the relevant links, and I am going to include those links for you guys.
	So just check out the episode.
	You can look at the links yourself.
	Here is the very true story.
	So, I did check out the links.
	Of course.
	Before we go on, I want to discuss the links in question.
	All right.
	Candace links to a Snopes article.
	Now, do you know about Snopes?
	That sounds very familiar.
	Okay, Snopes is basically, you can, they work hard at debunking internet bullshit.
	Okay.
	24-7.
	You can pretty much put any kind of conspiracy theory up and attach Snopes to it and get their article on it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So, Candace links to a Snopes article, and by the way, people like Candace do not tend to like Snopes.
	Okay.
	Because they debunk her bullshit almost constantly.
	Yeah.
	About some shit she's going to say, and two links that don't say what she's talking about.
	One of them is from 9-12, archived, about how many people were missing the day after the attacks.
	Oh.
	9-11, then 9-12.
	From the Jerusalem Post.
	Alright.
	4,000 Jewish people happen to have been missing on 9-12.
	Keep that day and the incomplete nature of data in mind.
	Canis goes on first to mention about an instant messaging service called Odigo.
	Oh, God.
	...story of what went down on 9-11.
	There was an instant messaging service that was called Odigo.
	Maybe I'm saying it wrong.
	Odigo, O-D-I-G-O.
	It was Israeli-owned and operated, and they had headquarters that were based two blocks away from the World Trade Center.
	Now, this is according to Haaretz.
	I'm sure I'm not saying that right.
	You know, it's a very popular Israeli publication.
	Check out this headline from them.
	Published September 26, 2011.
	So that is 15 days after the attack.
	She doesn't provide this link.
	Odigo workers were warned of the attacks.
	That is the headline.
	And I'm going to read you this piece of the article verbatim.
	It says, quote, Two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11th, predicting that the attack would happen.
	Thoughts?
	Firstly, I thought when you said she goes on about a messaging service called Odogo, I honestly thought that you were meaning like she was about to just pimp out another product.
	I can see where you would get that idea.
	But, secondly...
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	So, she doesn't provide the link?
	Not that one.
	Not that one, yeah.
	Okay, okay.
	So, my question is, unless it's covered in the next portion, what does the 4,000 missing people have anything to do with the conspiracy of them being warned?
	Oh, God.
	Also...
	Yeah, we're going to get down into that.
	It's all connected in the stupidest of ways.
	Okay, so the terrorist group, because I'm blanking on their name at the moment.
	Al-Qaeda?
	Taliban, whatever.
	Whichever one they were at the time.
	They were Saudis.
	Okay, and where's Saudi Arabia again?
	The Middle East.
	Okay, it is its own...
	That's not descriptive, but yeah.
	Well, what I mean is it's its own thing separate from Israel.
	Yes.
	Although they are friendly to Israel.
	Somewhat.
	Which makes them terrible, but keep going.
	Now, granted, I'm not trying to sound in defense of what they're doing currently.
	But what does a Saudi Arabian attack from a terrorist group have anything to do with the Israelis?
	Oh, we're going to get there.
	You can't possibly guess it right now.
	I can tell.
	But we're going to get there.
	Let me go on.
	Alright.
	Okay, so the actual truth of the matter.
	Alright.
	is Odogo's involvement in the 9-11 investigation unfolded as follows.
	Two hours before the September 11th attacks, two Odogo employees working in the company's office near Tel Aviv, Israel, received threatening instant messages.
	These messages were in English and contained a vague warning about an impending terrorist attack, though they did not specify the World Trade Center or any particular location.
	The employees did not immediately report these messages to their employer.
	It was only after hearing news reports about the attacks in the U.S. that they informed Odogo's management about the suspicious communications.
	Upon learning of the messages, Odogo took proactive steps to assist in the investigation.
	The company used its resources to track down the originating IP address of the threatening messages.
	Odogo promptly shared the information they gathered, including the IP address, with Israeli security services.
	This information was then passed on to the FBI.
	The FBI launched an investigation into these advance warnings.
	They sought to identify the sender of the messages and determine if there was any connection to the attacks.
	While the exact content of the messages wasn't disclosed due to the ongoing investigation, it was reported that they contained a non-specific threat and ended with an anti-Semitic slur.
	It's worth noting that one of Odigo's New York offices was located within a mile of the World Trade Center complex, even though this wasn't specifically mentioned in the warning messages.
	So to sum up, yes, this happened, but it likely wasn't connected.
	I'm saying this not just because the evidence doesn't allow for it, but also because, in case no one recalls, the World Trade Center was the site of many prior terror attacks and attempts for years.
	And anti-Semitic slurs being thrown at a known Israeli-owned company are also nothing new, especially ones that contain vague statements about terrorism.
	It was probably just another Tuesday for these people.
	If this company was ever up to anything nefarious, I can't say, but they can't be held responsible for not warning the authorities on 9-11.
	This shit is absurd.
	Candace goes on to make unsubstantiated claims that the text messages got very specific about the impending attacks.
	No, they did not, and the links she provides also don't say that shit.
	So, in other words, the threats of attacks were no real different than a brick through the window.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, they messaged the employees in Israel with a vague warning about an impending attack and, you know, basically called them Jew bastards or whatever.
	Okay, so they...
	So they warned the people in Israel that there was going to be a pending attack.
	Did they say a pending attack in America?
	No.
	So in other words, it was just another Middle Eastern threat back and forth.
	Yeah, it was just a shit talk.
	That's what all came of that.
	It was just a shit talk that happened to have happened within a few hours of the 9-11 attacks.
	So, in other words, it probably was a threat not even regarding to what was going to happen in America.
	No.
	It was probably just a threat regarding what was going to happen over in the Middle East.
	If anything.
	Yeah, like, if anything.
	If it wasn't just some kid trolling.
	Yeah.
	Like, because, you know, that's what people tend to do is, like, especially people like Candace, oh, this happened, and, you know, it was this...
	It was this office in Israel and, you know, it's like, yeah, look, when they realized what fucking happened in America because the rest of the world woke up to it, too, the moment that everything was fucking occurring, they were then like, oh, well, shit, maybe this has something to do with it.
	Let's just send it off and find out.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, I don't like, you know, but, of course, Candace has to weave it into something much larger and dumber.
	It's like my, the same right-wing co-worker I mentioned before.
	Okay, so I'd walked up on this conversation of stupidity, in which he was going off about, you know, he was going off about how there was an, oh, I want to say it was a Ukrainian attack in a Russian nightclub,
	or maybe it was the opposite.
	Either way, he said that there was an attack in one of those.
	That was labeled by the media as just some random fucking gang terrorist issue.
	Yeah.
	And it was more likely assumed to be like a gang hit or something.
	Yeah.
	Well, my dear right-wing co-worker was sitting there going...
	But it couldn't have been because if you look at the time stamps and the pictures from the attack, everything was too militaristic to have just been some sort of gang hit.
	It was probably the Ukrainian or Russian, because I don't remember which sides he was speaking of, making an attack on a nightclub full of civilians.
	And the first thought that came to my head was, firstly, bullshit.
	And secondly...
	If it was militaristic, who was at the nightclub then?
	Well, what kills me?
	What kills me about anyone who ever says, this was too well planned to have been gang members.
	Okay, I want to look at these people and be like, are you aware that a lot of people get into the military, do their four years or eight years or whatever of their enlistment, they get out, not all of them get good jobs.
	Some of them become gangsters.
	Yeah.
	With military training, they are very efficient.
	They are some of the most fearsome people in those gangs.
	Especially if they have combat experience.
	Yeah.
	Especially if they went into the military to get that combat experience.
	We don't know why people join the military all the time.
	It's not always patriots.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's not always Bible-thumping patriots.
	Some of these people do have a nefarious goal in mind.
	Or, life just leads them down the wrong path after they get out of the service.
	Maybe they can't find work or whatever the fuck.
	But they have this skill set.
	Yeah.
	And where can I use this skill set?
	Oh.
	In a fucking violent gang.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, it's not unheard of.
	Especially when you're talking about a...
	About a country like Russia where the mafia has a huge presence.
	It's fair to assume that a lot of Russian mafia dudes are former like Spetsnaz.
	That was the second thought that came to my head.
	Let's say it was some sort of military style strike.
	Who was in the nightclub?
	It was probably a mobster.
	It could have been a hit.
	It could have easily been...
	I think I had heard something about this story, but I stay off of the Ukrainian war stuff as much as I can because I don't have the time in the day.
	But if we're just ballparking here, it could have been any number of reasons.
	It could have been a false flag.
	I hate even using that.
	I really hate using that because the worst people use that.
	It could have even been a false flag in Putin's house.
	Yeah.
	You know, who's to say?
	But, yeah, no, I don't, I don't, I don't buy into, like, the more involved a conspiracy is, the less likely it is to have happened.
	Yeah.
	You know, but yeah, Candace goes on with a clip I've named 4,000 Israelis.
	Oh, there's more.
	On September 12, 2001, the Jerusalem Post, also based in Jerusalem, reported in a since-archived online publication that, quote, the foreign ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to
	have been in the areas of the world's world.
	Okay, now she basically read the entire quote.
	Okay.
	That article in that link is like two paragraphs.
	Okay.
	It's just an update.
	Of like 4,000, you know, Israeli-born people are missing right now?
	Well, yeah, because communications were, you know, you couldn't make a phone call into New York from outside.
	Yeah.
	I had friends that were living there at the time.
	And, like, we were all glad that we had the internet because they were able to check in.
	Yeah.
	You know, I was part of a website, and this is going to show my nerd cred, and fuck you for the laughter I'm about to receive.
	All right.
	I was part of a website called Jedi Academy.
	It was a forum on a very cool platform called Easyboards.
	You can consider Easyboards to be the forerunner of Reddit.
	It was very basic.
	But yeah, I had found them on there.
	I was doing fanfic writing with other people, and we came across it.
	And I was like, oh, motherfucker, this is cool.
	Yeah, no, like the people and like half of our mods lived in New York.
	Okay.
	Like they lived in NYC.
	Yeah.
	And it was like, oh shit, you know, like this has happened.
	We didn't know where all of these people were.
	Yeah.
	One of them, he actually, he worked like a few blocks away.
	He worked in this call center.
	I don't want to give him more details than that.
	But he worked in this call center.
	But the office where he would go to get his paycheck.
	It was in Building 7 of the World Trade Center.
	Now, the main two ones came down, but Building 7 was just like...
	It was a miracle it was still standing.
	He couldn't get a paycheck for like two months because they had to relocate the office and so much of the shit in there was evidentiary.
	They couldn't touch it.
	There was a lot of hassle.
	He had to lean in on friends and church people.
	To pay his fucking bills.
	Yeah.
	When he eventually could, he took his money that came in one lump sum and he moved to fucking California.
	Yeah.
	He was like, I am done here.
	And he moved out to Los Angeles.
	One of the other mods offered him a guest bedroom in her place.
	Yeah.
	Because she was like, look, I understand.
	He's like, I can't look at my job anymore.
	And he was a very open-minded, very chill dude.
	And he stayed that way.
	He was like, I can't live here anymore.
	He had PTSD from the whole thing.
	It was understandable.
	Especially when you're looking at possible homelessness.
	Everything around you is fucked.
	It was going from normal Tuesday afternoon to fallout.
	In a second.
	And he knew people that had died.
	I mean, he happened to be like a night worker on his on-call job.
	Or at his call center job.
	Yeah, he just couldn't.
	He couldn't see going back into work anymore than he had to.
	He saved his money.
	Like I said, he got his lump sum payment.
	He paid off people that he felt he needed to pay off when he finally got his paychecks.
	Most of them were very graceful.
	They were like, dude, we all went through hell.
	Don't worry about it.
	He got the first Amtrak series of tickets he could and booked it to California.
	He's just done.
	He did send me updates.
	We were friends off of the Jedi Academy website, too.
	He sent me pictures of his train travel through America.
	He had grown up in Haiti and had moved to New York City with his family.
	He was a very cool dude.
	He had never really seen the country, and that was his chance.
	Fair enough.
	It was very cool.
	If anything...
	If anything good could come out of that for somebody, I was glad that he was not only alive, but able to, you know, leave the hell.
	Yeah.
	And see the country, see what it was worth, and then get out to California and fucking thrive.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	I'm sure he's one of the, well, I should say a few people that I've met that, well, I've not met him, but like one of the few people that I've met that were in New York when everything happened.
	Now look at life as, man, I could go any fucking day.
	Yeah.
	I'm not just going to sit around and let life shit on me.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, and he said after the fact, like he said about a year or so after the fact, he's like, I don't want to sit here and say that I'm glad any of it happened.
	Yeah.
	He's like, you know, he's like, shit was terrible immediately afterwards, of course.
	He's like, but my life up to that point was just...
	You know, sitting around and typing on a fucking Star Wars forum and going to work every day.
	He's like, the best thing I had in my life was talking on that forum to people from around the world.
	But, you know, then I just woke up.
	Like, it was disaster and I woke up and I left.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, he's like, I don't like thinking that that's what it took.
	But I needed something.
	Yeah.
	He's like, I hate that it was that, but it was what it was, you know.
	So.
	Going on.
	Right.
	And yet despite this remarkably, and that's according to someone who was traveling with Bibi Netanyahu, only four Israeli citizens died that day.
	So the foreign ministry was looking for 4,000 of them, and fortunately, and I do mean that fortunately, because I wish nobody had died that day, only four of them actually did die.
	Here's that clip of Bibi Netanyahu and his wife, and you'll hear somebody off on the side.
	confirming that only four Israeli citizens died that day.
	The toll section that we see here is running all the way down to Volk Tannert, Fitzgerald.
	Okay, fine.
	Take from that what you will.
	Yeah, I will, actually.
	There were actually five Israelis killed in the World Trade Center attacks, but this was like, you know, pretty soon after it, so I'm not going to totally...
	Shit on everybody here.
	Although Netanyahu can go suck Satan's dick.
	He's the current leader.
	Okay.
	Yeah, he can go suck Satan's dick.
	As well as people from a hundred other countries.
	Not them sucking the Satan's dick, but five Israelis and then people from a hundred other countries.
	Yeah.
	So the implication is that up to 4,000 people were supposed to be in the area just stayed home on 9-11.
	Or at least stayed away from the area because they got a message on an IM app about the attacks.
	I don't think I need to mention that keeping 4,000 people quiet about this event, particularly what this accusation implies, shows that these people don't know how people actually operate.
	The claim is unprovable bullshit, and I suspect it's why Candace doesn't provide more recent follow-up material.
	Moving on to her next claim.
	But I'm going to tell you another strange...
	Real, true fact.
	Larry Silverstein.
	This one, oh my gosh, they call you anti-Semitic for knowing it.
	Larry Silverstein was a prominent New York State real estate developer.
	He's also a personal friend of Bibi Netanyahu.
	He's very connected to Israeli politics, Israeli politicians and other prime ministers.
	Well, Larry was quite lucky.
	He obtained the lease for the Twin Towers just six weeks prior to 9-11.
	Six weeks prior, he obtained the lease, and he also took out an insurance policy, which fortunately included coverage for acts of terrorism.
	So when it came time to collect, when the towers went down, Silverstein claimed that there were two incidences of terror, since two buildings were hit by the planes, which allowed him to seek double indemnity.
	So to be clear, he collected $4.5 billion from insurance on the towers that he had invested in just six weeks prior.
	So not...
	Yeah.
	So, as with all of this, there are elements of truth.
	The truth is that Silverstein did make the real estate deal for the towers, but not solo.
	He did it with many other partners.
	Also, because the towers had suffered terrorist incidents in the past, insurance that included it was practically a requirement.
	Like, you know, buying a house in Florida usually requires one to be insured against hurricanes.
	Yeah.
	And that insurance ain't fucking cheap.
	No, nor is volcano insurance in Hawaii.
	Yeah.
	But you get it because...
	Reasons, yeah.
	I don't think his association with Netanyahu really matters.
	Going on, Candace feeds the fire with this.
	11 attacks.
	I was so shocked looking at that.
	I wanted to debunk that.
	I turned to Snopes, you guys.
	I said, Snopes, tell me why this is not true.
	And of course, Snopes had an article defending Larry Silverstein.
	And of course, they didn't really debunk it at all.
	They just write, and I'll include the link to this as well, that the implication of foreknowledge is unfounded.
	And of course, getting insurance is normal.
	And he wasn't the only investor.
	Yes, he led the consortium of investors six weeks prior, but he wasn't the only investor.
	So nothing to see there.
	But by the way, Larry was even more lucky than that, unbelievably.
	Every morning, he used to have breakfast.
	He used to take breakfast meetings at the World Trade Center around the morning of 9-11.
	And by the way, this is according to Larry in interviews.
	He just broke his own routine.
	He, fortunately, on the morning of 9-11, had a dermatologist appointment.
	Yeah.
	So, he had a doctor's appointment.
	You know, he had a doctor's appointment that he went to on a Tuesday morning.
	If it was a Sunday morning, I'd maybe call some bullshit.
	But again, this is a person with an insane amount of money.
	Anyone who looks at the trade towers and goes, yeah, I could invest in that.
	Has a lot of money.
	Yeah.
	They have fuck you money for generations.
	Yeah.
	Like, you know, I didn't bother looking into how much him and his partners invested in the whole thing.
	Because I don't care.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't fucking matter.
	No, no.
	Okay.
	You know.
	Alright, so I already mentioned the terrorist insurance because it was the sign of terrorist attacks already.
	Her problem with him claiming two terror attacks because two planes hit the two towers...
	You can't see it right now, but I'm...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he, um...
	Yeah.
	Of course he claimed, you know, the two attacks, because, yeah, two separate towers went down.
	Like, I'm not gonna step on that.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	I mean...
	It's like, if...
	It's like, what is...
	It was, you know...
	It's like, sure.
	Okay.
	In hindsight, not a great investment.
	Yeah.
	But at the time, it seemed like a really solid investment, I'm sure, for him and his partners.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, you know, again, him getting a dermatology appointment, we don't know what that was for.
	It could have been something serious.
	Maybe he found a mole that he's like, hey, is this fucking cancer?
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Also.
	Am I going to go use my fuck you money to go hit my bucket list?
	Like, you know, I mean.
	Not to mention that.
	Appointments are made when appointments are available.
	Yeah.
	Even if you have fuck you money, you know, you still go to the doctor.
	And they still have to set you up with an appointment.
	And for all we know, his fuck you money could have been something like, you know, Tuesdays are usually kind of shit around here.
	I could slice off a Tuesday morning.
	That's fine.
	And then you go.
	You go, you do your thing.
	And yeah, while you're in the office, oh, look at that.
	Oh, motherfucker!
	On top of it, it's...
	I've been saying Tuesday morning a lot.
	Can you look up real quick, did 9-11 happen on a Tuesday morning?
	I'm pretty sure it did, but now I feel like I'm questioning myself.
	I mean, that's pretty safe to do in this.
	Yeah.
	9...
	Because I feel like if I haven't gotten it right, the audience has been screaming.
	9-11...
	And I don't want to get it wrong any more than I possibly have.
	I need the day...
	Obviously it happened on September 11th.
	Right.
	Alright, let me punch in days since currently just putting up a 9-11 attack doesn't do the trick.
	Oh my Christ, of course I'm fucking September 11th!
	Let me see here.
	It was...
	Oh my Christ.
	I don't know how to find out.
	Okay.
	I put in...
	9-11 attack date September 11, 2001 is the only result I'm getting.
	Day.
	Okay, so I've gone to the Google.
	On a Tuesday, you were right.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yeah, there it is.
	I just found it, too.
	Thank God.
	I'm not cutting that from the show.
	Audio Veritas.
	It is what it is.
	See?
	When we question ourselves, what do we do?
	We look it up.
	We go look it up.
	Yeah.
	Even if we're like, fuck, I know this.
	I should know this.
	I think I know this.
	Do I know this?
	Let me go make sure I know this.
	Turns out, I know it.
	Now you all do too.
	We're all better for it.
	See?
	That's how you look shit up.
	It's called doing your research, even if it is in the moment.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, dermatology appointment on a Tuesday.
	Yeah.
	Completely plausible.
	Also, you know, okay, because at first I thought she was just going to leave it at you decided to break his habit and not go in for breakfast on a Tuesday morning.
	Yeah.
	Well, if, as somebody who has food option...
	Like, only a couple of food options available near my job.
	Yeah.
	That I go to every single day that I work.
	Right.
	And hell, even on days that I don't work, I go to them.
	Yeah.
	I eventually get fucking bored of my selection and decide, you know what?
	I'm going to go for a walk in the park instead and get something from the taco shop across the street.
	Yeah, or something.
	Yeah.
	You know, something where there's...
	I mean, you work in an area that has some pretty good places all around you.
	You know, I mean...
	If I think I can make it down there and walk and get it, I'll break my daily routine of going to the place I usually go.
	Yeah.
	Because I get fucking bored of going to the same place.
	Yeah.
	And I've been there like seven, eight months now.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, I got tired around...
	It gets a little stale.
	Yeah, I got tired around the six-month portion.
	I was just like, honestly, nah, nothing's really doing it.
	Nothing really looks appetizing.
	Yeah.
	So I can understand if she just left it at, he decided to break his daily routine.
	Well, of course, if after six months and I have fuck you money to purchase the fucking lease on the World Trade Center, of course, one of those days I'm going to go, man, I really don't want to fucking eat it again.
	He was in New York City.
	Which is rich with food.
	Yeah, like, he was in New York City.
	I'm sure he could, if his limo windows were down...
	Within three blocks, he could catch the scent of 14 different cultures.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Like, there's...
	I mean, there's no reason to stick to your daily routine when you have fuck you money.
	Yeah.
	That's the point of fuck you money.
	Yeah, fuck you money is you can just do what fuck you would like.
	Yeah.
	And as for the coincidence, it's just that.
	It's coincidence.
	It's like, there was a...
	Fuck, I don't remember the name of the author.
	But there was an author that was supposed to go on to the Hindenburg.
	Yeah.
	When it was first taking its first flight before it, you know, spontaneously went...
	Yeah.
	Well...
	I don't think that happened on the first flight at the Hindenburg, but I'm not sure.
	Okay.
	Well, either way, on the flight in which it went up...
	Yeah.
	Right?
	No, it wasn't on its first flight because it was on its America tour.
	Okay.
	But, nonetheless...
	On the flight that it went up, he had gotten tickets for him and his pregnant wife, who they were like, alright, let's go do this.
	It'll be a fun date.
	It's something new we haven't done before.
	They were also, fuck you, Rich.
	Well, his wife fell ill that morning with morning sickness and was like, I don't think I'm going to go.
	And he was like, okay, we won't go then.
	We'll just stay in.
	Sure as shit from where they were at.
	They could see the Hindenburg and they watched it explode.
	And they were like, well, that's a happy little coincidence now, isn't it?
	I'm sure that was of him sitting in the dermatology office getting examined and then going, wait, what the fuck's that?
	Well, this is a shitty little coincidence, but...
	I'm glad I'm not there right now.
	Even if he had been in a diner on the third floor or something, and even if he had been able to get out, it's still like, you know, come on.
	And there are, I'm sure, thousands of coincidental stories about that, or people going, you know, I'm going to have lunch downstairs today, I'm going to have breakfast downstairs today, rather than on floor 78 or whatever.
	I feel like having a bagel from the shop.
	Yeah.
	You know, I want to go get a candy bar.
	You guys need anything?
	And then, boom!
	And then, fuck, I need to get the fuck out of here.
	Or, like, some of the family stories we heard of, like, people being stuck in rush hour traffic, going to or from, and witnessing it happen from the road, and going, well, I'm actually happy for rush hour traffic for once.
	Yeah, like, rush hour traffic saved my life, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, but yeah.
	Candice then tells people...
	Not to be afraid of using this knowledge to be called truthers or conspiracy theorists.
	Or whatever.
	And then she goes into an ad read for Pure Talk Wireless.
	Which, I'll go ahead and mention, that company uses AT&T towers to make its service work.
	Which is fine, as I don't personally care for AT&T.
	Anyway, I wanted to combine these two particular episodes because I think Candace's embrace of the Jewish conspiracy about 9-11 stuff tells on her quite a bit.
	Candace is aware of the difference between being anti-Semitic and anti-Jewish.
	Here is her explaining the difference.
	Hold on, I'm going to back this up.
	This is a...
	Oh my god, we're going to wind up getting into this.
	Candace got a message on an app she uses that she's a part of called Manect.
	I have some things to tell you guys about Manect.
	But before that, this guy sent Candace a message on Manect, and this is her responding to it.
	I'm going to go back to the start on this so that we can all hear it from the beginning.
	As an Arab, I was told by a Jewish friend that I no longer have the right to identity as a Semite.
	Because it puts in danger the lives of Jews who need this label to protect them.
	For context, this friend is a wealthy British man, whilst I'm an Iraqi immigrant, who lost my family home and family members to the American and British armies during the invasion in 2003.
	It is unclear to me why he needs more protection than me or other Arab Semites that remain back in Iraq and Palestine.
	Your friend's an idiot.
	I mean, that's real.
	I can tell you, he's an absolute idiot.
	To be Semitic.
	It means to speak a Semitic language.
	And obviously, if you're an Arab, you are Semitic.
	So no one gets to just, like, take that away from you.
	That's an absolute nonsense.
	Obviously, even when you're talking about Semite, you are talking about of Shem in the Bible.
	Forget the history of it.
	If you're a descendant of Shem, obviously, if you speak a Semitic language, you are Semitic.
	You can't just rinse that away because you say, oh, it's no longer expedient for me that you are who you are.
	That's the nonsense.
	So, this happened on her sixth episode, that one where she really went after Brigitte McCrone, which we covered in episode nine of our program.
	Okay.
	So many numbers.
	Yeah.
	So Candice rounds out the twelfth episode with a message from her Minect account.
	Minect, which I hadn't heard about until I started mainlining Candace's shows, is an app that allows people to connect with dubious celebrities like Candace Owens, various crypto bros, former mafia guys like Sammy the Bull
	Gravano, and many more terrible humans.
	Yes.
	It's a huge list.
	One of my favorites on there that I looked at before tonight was a guy who calls himself, I think it was, fuck me, it started with a C, but let's just call him Dr. Christopher Eng.
	The good doctor specializes in All kinds of not-doctor shit.
	Like?
	Like, um, chiropractic treatments.
	And all kinds of, like, homeopathic shit.
	I was about to say voodoo hoodoo.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Woo.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He specializes, yeah.
	Okay, so he doesn't even, like, practice like a voodoo hoodoo.
	To be fair.
	Well, to be fair, he's very cheap.
	Alright.
	He's very cheap compared to the numbers I'm about to give you.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	So it's a huge list.
	It actually is.
	I had to download the app to get a sense of it because they don't tell you on the website exactly who's on there.
	What they have is they have a leaderboard.
	Okay.
	They have a fucking leaderboard of people that are supposed to be helping people.
	They have a competitive leaderboard and a weekly show, apparently.
	There was a YouTube link.
	I didn't bother clicking it.
	I want to know as little about this as possible, but I fear over time I'm going to learn more than I want.
	Which means, so are the rest of you.
	So, but since we concern ourselves with Candice here, I want to share her rates.
	Alright.
	If you want her to answer a question via text like this man did, it's $100.
	Fuck's sake.
	If you want a video answer from her, take a guess.
	Let's shoot for $750?
	No.
	Oh.
	Only $400.
	Jesus Christ.
	If you want a consultation with Candace Owens for 15 minutes of her time, it is, I am not kidding, 15 minutes of interactive time with her is, take a guess.
	Go ahead.
	Just anything.
	Based on the idea that a text message is $100 and a video text message is $400, how much do you think 15 minutes of her time is worth?
	Okay.
	$3,000.
	No.
	$6,000?
	Not even close.
	$22,500.
	Oh, good.
	God.
	$22,500 for 15 minutes of her time.
	And if you go over it, it incrementally builds.
	Up to an hour of her time is $90,000.
	What the fuck?
	That's an extreme level of grift.
	So anyway, back to the subject of this episode of our show.
	It's becoming apparent to me that Candace is not anti-Semitic.
	Oh, hold on.
	According to the app, she's done 170 consultations, though it isn't clear what form those took.
	170 consultations could be anything from 170 text messages to videos, although when you look through her reviews, people put up 50 reviews of her.
	Out of 170 things, people put up 50 reviews.
	She has done some videos.
	I don't know if she's done any long-form consulting.
	But at $90,000 an hour?
	Son of a bitch.
	You know, I'm of course thinking there's probably censorship on it, but I was going to say I'm surprised it hasn't turned into an OnlyFans-style platform yet.
	Give it time.
	Give it time.
	So, yeah, it's becoming apparent to me that Candace is not anti-Semitic.
	She does seem at this time to be anti-Jewish, and at the very least anti-Israeli.
	Given the Gaza genocide, I could understand some of that.
	However, her embrace of conspiracy theories that are disproven and long since debunked leads me to surmise that something deeper is at play here.
	I am beginning to think that there was more to her firing at the Daily Wire than what we have all been led to believe.
	So for now, it seems safe to say that the lesson here is that Candace is anti-Israeli and quite possibly anti-Jewish, but not anti-Semitic.
	That and her embrace of Kanye West being very anti-Jewish.
	Yay.
	Yay.
	Fuck me.
	Yes.
	Yay.
	It's so easy to slip into.
	Thank you.
	I was going to say key.
	I almost said key.
	I almost called him key.
	No.
	Yay.
	You're right.
	Yay.
	Her embrace of him and...
	It's funny too because some of her YouTube videos that I've gone back and watched because I want to say it was in this episode.
	I didn't play the clip.
	I didn't feel like it was necessary to the content of this but she played a clip that I had to go then watch because hearing the audio you don't quite get it.
	She said that she actually does go into the live chat of her shows.
	Like, she records them, and then two hours later, she goes into the live chat to actually talk with people.
	I'm guessing for free, since it's on YouTube.
	Yeah. But she goes into the live chat to talk with people, and she had said at one point that if 12,000 people join this live chat, I will film myself doing a flip.
	Now, I want to say Candice made an attempt.
	Alright.
	Anyone can look this up on episode 12 if you feel like scrolling through.
	I'm not going to play that.
	I'm not going to tell you where it is.
	I had to suffer through it.
	You can too.
	Candace has her daughter film her in her yard.
	And her yard looks huge.
	She has her daughter film her in her yard.
	And she does what I could best describe as like a somersault.
	You know, goes over on her hands and on her feet.
	She does land it.
	Alright.
	It's not a flip.
	I don't know that there's a universe where you call it a flip.
	It was clumsy.
	Alright.
	But she stuck the landing.
	Alright.
	But it was like, it was what you expect a 35-year-old woman who has not done gymnastics to do if told to.
	Alright.
	I'm going to give her that.
	She's a person of her word when it came to that.
	And she actually says in the clip, my husband told me, never challenge the internet.
	You will always lose.
	Yeah.
	I wish, based on what I've had to listen to otherwise this week, that she had taken that to heart and just never come back.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because the episode I have to build for next week.
	Yeah.
	It's hilarious and scary.
	Like this was hilarious that anyone would believe this shit to the point that I think she does because it feeds her anti-Jewish narrative.
	Because what she's basically told us here across two of her episodes when you cut out all the extraneous bullshit she has told us that she believes that a that A Jewish instant messaging company got the message that 9-11 was going to happen,
	and they told a bunch of people, and 4,000 people didn't show up for work.
	Yeah.
	And then, okay, correct me if I'm wrong.
	And then that it was all a big conspiracy, because, you know, let's say jet fuel, steel beams, all that bullshit.
	Yeah.
	And that they just happened to find a terrorist passport.
	Yeah, but when you take it all separately and you're like, alright, that all sounds like gobbledygook.
	Yeah.
	But the fact is, if she's telling the truth, she got to those points by way of members of her audience putting it in the comments section that, oh, you need to go look at this, you need to go look at that.
	Yeah.
	But I think it was more of a confirmation bias for her that she has this anti-Jewishness about her that makes her look for things like that.
	Yeah.
	And I think the Gaza genocide right now, it being unpopular with people for really good reasons, is something that she's been able to leapfrog off of for her anti-Jewish stance.
	I was going to say, it's...
	It was weird that she's like harping the Israeli aspect of 9-11.
	Yeah.
	Just...
	Working it hard.
	Yeah, working it a little too hard.
	And did she say that the guy that purchased the lease was Israeli too?
	She said he was friends with Netanyahu.
	Okay.
	I'm not sure if she said that he was Israeli, but...
	And Netanyahu...
	Is the current president of Israel.
	Okay.
	And he was a big shot.
	He's been a big shot for a long fucking time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so...
	Yeah, that...
	You know, just all of that being part of her contention and her previous story about how it was so weird that these, you know, Israeli guys got away.
	It's like, well, they didn't get away.
	Yeah.
	People saw them...
	People that saw them that reported it...
	So that it looked like they were celebrating the towers coming down from the Jersey side.
	Yeah.
	And then they wound up, you know, being imprisoned, and a couple of them failed lie detector tests, which we know doesn't mean shit.
	Yeah.
	And, yeah, like, I think, had there been anything there concrete, the FBI would have done something.
	Mm-hmm.
	You know, even to be like, you know...
	Even to say something like, these guys happen to be Israeli.
	They're not connected to the state of Israel.
	They were involved in this.
	We're going to fucking prosecute them.
	Israel's fine.
	Even if they went into all of that.
	Yeah.
	But instead, they were like, yeah, it was just wrong place, wrong time.
	Way wrong thing to do.
	Yeah.
	We're going to deport them.
	The moving service that they worked for, they worked for a moving service.
	The moving service that they worked for...
	It's believed was an Israeli front for gathering intelligence.
	But that, again, is not 100% clear.
	So it's not something I wanted to even bring up in the broader context of everything.
	Like I said, there's so much of this that I had to sift through that I was like, is that worth talking about?
	Is this worth talking about?
	No, a lot of it wasn't worth talking about.
	But what I presented here...
	Was, I think, clear evidence that Candace is anti-Jewish.
	Yes.
	And like you said, if at least anti-Israel.
	Yeah.
	Anti-Israel, definitely.
	Anti-Jewish, I believe so.
	Yeah.
	I believe she's got some anti-Jewish stuff going on with her that goes much further back.
	Yeah, which is quite unfortunate because her original, you know...
	Anti-Israel on the whole Gaza genocide thing actually seemed like kind of a good move for her to make.
	And unfortunately she grabbed onto the testicles of that and is currently ziplining it down the hill.
	I thought she had a right thing and it turns out I may have been very, very wrong.
	But it's all on record now, isn't it?
	Yeah, it is.
	And I'm not going to back down from it.
	I have no problem with saying, hey, you know.
	I thought one thing.
	Turns out with evidence, it may be something very different and very not that thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, it's...
	You know?
	It's like...
	Okay.
	This was something that I...
	I did kind of feel a bit bad about.
	And I corrected myself back at my old fast food job.
	Yeah.
	When we lived down in Florida.
	I corrected myself with my co-workers because...
	At the time, I was, you know...
	Learning Russian and listening to classic Russian opera.
	Yeah.
	Because it was intriguing.
	I liked it.
	And, you know, then the attack...
	The whole Ukraine thing.
	Yeah, the whole Ukraine thing happened.
	Well, at the time, it was just the tension was building and then the dam got struck.
	Yeah.
	It hadn't escalated into what it became.
	Yeah.
	So, I sat back and I had, you know...
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah. But what he did was getting fucking supplies to the portion of Russia that had been cut off by Ukraine.
	Mm-hmm.
	And then it escalated and I went, okay, I'm not a part of this no more.
	I was here when it was getting resources to people that were suffering.
	And then it escalated much further.
	I think even at that point it wasn't him so much.
	I think that was just part of the propaganda that they were putting out.
	That it was him doing that because the world could have gotten behind that.
	We would have sent aid.
	I was fucking behind that, because I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
	Yeah, that makes sense if that's what it was, but I don't think it...
	Yeah, no, no.
	Yeah, it's very clear after, you know, two years of fucking war.
	That it's...
	And, oh my god, Candace.
	Oh, fuck.
	Other shit that I have to talk about with Ukraine is in a future episode, for sure.
	Oh, Christ.
	But she is just...
	Horrible.
	Man, she's...
	Well, she's trademark horrible.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	You know what I didn't look up earlier that I want to look up right now while you do that?
	And I'm going to tell the audience what you're about to do.
	Our soda tonight is...
	To wash out the horrendous taste of Candice, is the Pop Shop Bubblegum.
	A French-Canadian soda.
	Yeah.
	Apparently made since 1969.
	And it, uh...
	It has cane sugar.
	It's a fun one.
	It's got two ingredients lists on it.
	One in English, one in French.
	And it's got a bunch of double translations.
	Partly French.
	She's at 1.93 million subscribers.
	Oh, fun.
	So, her episode today.
	Don't look at the screen.
	Do you know what the title of today's episode on her show was?
	I unfortunately already caught a glimpse.
	The cult is mad at me.
	No, no, no, no.
	You saw what was playing on the video preview.
	The Shocking Satanic Origins of NASA.
	So in other words, Starfield is a satanistic game then?
	It is better.
	Guess what yesterday's was, because you'll never guess this one either.
	Literally Hitler.
	Why can't we talk about him?
	Okay, but this has...
	For fuck's sake.
	This has...
	It's actually quite interesting.
	It's got English and French translations to it.
	We got it in a nice little pop shop in Stillwater.
	Yeah, Stillwater, Minnesota, which is recognized far and wide as the home of Minnesota.
	We actually went to the Stillwater Jail that day.
	Yeah, yeah, we did.
	Yeah, that was the Stillwater Jail.
	Yeah, and we took the tour.
	It's very cool.
	The guy who runs it has been running it for a long time.
	Very nice dude.
	But yeah, yeah, Stillwater.
	If you haven't been to Stillwater and you live in the Twin Cities area or nearby, go check it out sometime.
	It's a nice little town.
	There's some good breweries there.
	There's a really shitty salsa maker there that I'm going to call out.
	Kurt's Special Recipe Salsa.
	That shit ain't hot.
	Their triple hot is garbage.
	Their salsa is like tomato paste.
	And I regret that I paid, fuck me, $9, I think, once.
	I was like, well, I've had Midwest mild.
	I'm not a fan.
	Medium is sometimes okay.
	Hot?
	Ooh, triple hot.
	This has to be good.
	No.
	Fucking garbage.
	I'm sorry if you worked there.
	I didn't pass the place because had we passed the place...
	I would have shot up two birds and slow-walked it.
	But, um...
	Yeah.
	Nah, that shit sucks.
	I'm sorry to say that anything here sucks.
	But Kurt's Special Recipe Salsa, y 'all are on notice.
	Y 'all suck.
	I don't want you to give me my $9 back.
	I'll absorb that into my head.
	As a fee I'll never pay again.
	That is...
	That said, London Byerly's, though.
	Ghost Pepper Salsa?
	Fucking delicious.
	That is probably one of the most Jewish resentment statements you've said.
	That's a resentment level of Jewishness.
	You know, it's kind of appropriate that we're Jews, and we're doing this show about someone who's apparently anti-Jewish.
	So, the soda here, though, it is a real sugar soda, or real sucre.
	I probably said that wrong.
	It says underneath all of the ingredients and the fucking health information that if you're drinking a soda you're not going to fucking read.
	Oreos should have never removed the trans fats because they're not health food.
	You don't buy an Oreo because I want to be healthy today.
	I would buy Oreos for the express purpose of mainlining a bag of Oreos.
	With a big cup of milk, you know?
	Yep.
	But it says underneath it all, up your nose with a rubber hose.
	Yeah, that's an old insult from a long time ago.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure it stopped being cool when I was a child.
	Yep.
	Well...
	Well, let's find out about this.
	Does it actually open?
	Oh, it did!
	Ooh.
	Ooh, it's foamy, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's got a nice, um...
	Nice.
	Nice little ghost there.
	Alright, pour it up.
	Hope you've already gone to the restroom.
	I'm going to go to the restroom.
	Alright.
	It is very pink.
	It smells accurate, honestly.
	There goes the devil's cut right onto my bed.
	Alrighty.
	It smells accurate, honestly.
	It smells like bubblegum.
	I won't even lick my hand because...
	That's disgusting.
	Yeah.
	You don't know where that thing's been.
	I know where my hand's been.
	Do you?
	This smells disgustingly like bubblegum.
	It really does.
	It smells actually like the fucking pop shop candy shop we got it from.
	Oh yeah, that place.
	Blue Sun.
	Was it Blue Sun?
	No, no.
	It wasn't Blue Sun.
	Wasn't Blue Sun there, though?
	Yeah, Blue Sun was.
	That's where we got the WT Heck.
	No, no, no, no.
	I got the WT Heck from the Lunds and Byerly's in Ridgedale.
	Okay.
	Because I was like, oh, six bottles?
	Six weird bottles of soda?
	Sure, that'll be good for the show.
	Right.
	And then I got a dill pickle.
	So, yeah, no, we did go to Blue Sun.
	We stopped in there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Blue Sun, part of Stillwater, definitely go there if you ever have the chance.
	But, yeah, we got this from the candy shop.
	You're right.
	Let's give it a shot.
	Accurate.
	Yeah.
	Accurate.
	Really good, too.
	Yeah.
	Better than Urnbrew.
	Fuck you.
	No.
	No, but I mean on the bubblegum end of things.
	Urnbrew is at the top end of Soda Mountain.
	Everything else wants to be Urnbrew.
	Nothing else is Urnbrew.
	But I mean, like, for an actual, like, bubblegum soda.
	Yeah, Urnbrew is unintentionally a bubblegum soda.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Urnbrew, for those of you out of the loop, Urnbrew is from Scotland.
	Urnbrew is orange.
	It looks like orange soda, right?
	You crack it open, it smells like bubblegum.
	Even tastes like it a bit.
	But it has more caffeine than a Mountain Dew.
	Yeah.
	Irnbrew is the king.
	Irnbrew is actually older than a lot of soda brands.
	Yeah.
	I think it might be older than Coca-Cola.
	The only unfortunate thing is the only way to get it, at least in the state, is to special order it.
	Yeah.
	I've had Irnbrew spicy.
	There's a reason why you haven't had spicy Irnbrew.
	It's no good.
	Okay, I thought you were going to say it's alcoholic.
	No, no, it sucks.
	It just sucks.
	I didn't want to subject anybody else to it.
	Fair enough.
	It's really good.
	The Canadians did a good thing there.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	Actually, this would be really good with poutine.
	I've never had an authentic Canadian poutine.
	You haven't had an authentic Canadian poutine, but you had a poutine when we went to the zoo once with your friend, way, way back.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	And we had a version of a poutine that was very good.
	Which, to explain to all of the other 13-year-old-minded individuals listening to this, poutine is a national dish of Canada.
	It is fries, like French fries, you know, fried up, and topped with cheese curds and gravy.
	I have seen it done with...
	There's one place that one of the Iron Chefs went to in Baltimore on a regular basis where they did it in duck fat.
	They fried the fries in duck fat.
	That's evil.
	They had some sort of meat base for their gravy.
	But I've seen recipes for poutine, like very old ones, where they used mousse fat.
	I just thought of something.
	They did mousse fat, and then they made, like, a mousse-based gravy.
	Unfortunately, not mousse cheese.
	I think that would be the way to go.
	Yeah.
	You know, you get, like, mousse milk.
	Make mousse cheese.
	Yeah, you make mousse cheese, which you scrape the curds off of the cheese.
	And make mousse cheese curds.
	Yeah, and then you take, you know, the mousse, and you make the gravy.
	And you have the fries deep-fried in mousse fat.
	That's what I would consider to be a true...
	I would consider that to be the most Canadian thing ever.
	An even further point, but this would take a little while of setup because you'd need to wait for things to grow.
	Drending a moose isn't going to take time, but go ahead.
	Fair enough, but...
	Use your mooses, or your meeses, as they should fucking be called.
	They're just moose, yeah.
	They should be called the mooses, because you refer to a flock of geese as geese, not gooses.
	It should be meeses.
	Fuck.
	Yeah, meeses.
	I got unnecessarily angry about that one, but you take your flock of meeses, and you take...
	Yeah.
	You take their shite, which is going to be left over afterwards, because there always is, and you use that to fertilize the land that you grow your potatoes in.
	Oh, I get it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And you're going to need some breadcrumbs to roll your fucking cheese curds in before you deep fry them.
	No.
	No?
	No, the cheese curds are just on fresh.
	Oh, oh.
	They melt with the heat of the gravy and the heat of the fries kind of melts the cheese curds a little bit.
	Okay, well then you don't even got to worry about growing the wheat.
	Just grow the potatoes in the meat.
	Although now that you've said that, I'm kind of with you on this though.
	Okay, okay.
	If you deep fry the cheese curds, then they're chewy and cheesy.
	Yeah.
	But they're not going to be melty.
	And what you want is melty first?
	You kind of want them to be a little melty.
	It's fine if they retain some of their shape.
	You want them a little melty.
	They're going to be a little bit melty because they're going on hot fries.
	They're getting sprinkled on hot fries and then you're doing the gravy on top of them.
	The gravy ideally is a little warm at least.
	To match with the recipe, all you really need to do is have your meese shit.
	You mean shit.
	Yeah.
	Fertilizing your potatoes.
	Right.
	And while your potatoes grow and your meats grow.
	And you eat the poutine with the moose steak.
	Yeah.
	And you wash it down with a nice bottle of that bubble gum soda.
	Exactly.
	Actually, hang on.
	I think the only other way you get it more Canadian is if you have some Tim Hortons ready to go the next morning.
	Yeah.
	Some donuts and some Tim Hortons coffee.
	Yeah, that's how you make it.
	Or flapjacks, Canadian maple syrup, and some Tim Hortons coffee.
	Fair enough.
	I think that's how you have the most Canadian night into morning.
	And perhaps a willing and able-bodied Canadian sexual partner between.
	Here's the other thing you need.
	You need to line it up.
	With Canada Day.
	Yeah.
	So you either...
	Or, to appease the French, you line it up with the Steel Day.
	Now here's...
	Why can't you do it twice a year?
	You have a point.
	That's good.
	Now here's the other thing.
	Do you open...
	I don't know why we're talking about this now, but do you open Canada Day after your most Canadian meal?
	Or do you end Canada Day with your most Canadian meal and open the next day with two words?
	I would end Canada Day with the most Canadian meal.
	Okay.
	Spend the night with a willing Canadian.
	Yeah.
	And then have Canada morning.
	Okay.
	Which is post-Canada Day.
	Okay.
	See, now you have a life goal.
	Exactly.
	Welcome.
	I'm married.
	I can't do any of this.
	But you have a life goal now.
	And we are eight hours from Canada.
	And I know exactly where I can get moose.
	Sorry.
	Meese meat.
	Well, anything else about this episode or are we done here?
	Not really, no.
	Fair enough.
	Alright everybody, that was episode 10 of the show.
	Oh, there was a couple other things.
	A little bit of house cleaning.
	Every episode from here on, like we're recording this on Wednesday.
	This is not going to be available to the wide world until late Friday night.
	But I'm going to go put this up on our Patreon right now.
	Right after I hit stop and I check everything out, it's going up on our Patreon.
	Our entire catalog is going to be available on Patreon soon.
	And whenever we record, it'll probably be Wednesdays, since that seems to work.
	Those episodes are going to go up on Patreon Wednesday or Thursday.
	So, easily a day or two before the rest of the world gets it.
	So, if you want some of that, you can head on over to Patreon.com.
	Join us for as little as a buck a month.
	And, yeah, enjoy the show and, you know, scream at Candice.
	I'll remind you all, I do it a lot more.
	The only way you can hit my level is to listen to these episodes at least three or four times and scream at all of your appropriate moments.
	But that's up to you.
	That's it.
	That's all I got.
	Matty, you got anything?
	Yes, and you can even hear me scream in this episode, I'm fairly certain, at least two episodes ago when I made a wisecrack about a sales pitch and then she proceeded to use the exact same fucking words.
	Yeah.
	Still angry about that one.
	Oh, no.
	When you said it, I just internally laughed because I was like, he has no idea.
	No concept.
	It's gonna happen.
	Because I keep myself willfully ignorant to my shit.
	Yeah, he does.
	He does.
	I have to, like, whisper shit to his mom when I'm sitting there researching it and going out of my mind.
	And she's like, what's wrong?
	I'm like, I gotta tell you quietly.
	Because he's, like, 20 feet away.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so, yeah, it is what it is.
	But, okay.
	We're gonna cut this here.
	Have a great week, everybody.
	Bye.
	Have a good weekend.
	Happy Canada Day and Fourth of July.
	And whatever else.
	Bye.

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