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May 22, 2024 - Gishgallop Girl
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Episode 6 Chapter 1 Part 1

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Hello, everybody.
This is Thomas Anderson, and I'm sitting here with...
Matthew Anderson.
And we are cutting this new intro.
The show you're about to hear, and the...
Okay, there's nothing new except for this on the first six, seven episodes of this show.
We had originally called this Please Only One Lie at a Time, and that's what it's referred to as throughout the first series of episodes.
We had recorded that when we had other goals for the show.
We were going to do one shitbag book a season, but life got in the way of recording a lot of stuff, and I had time to reflect.
And so we have changed the name of this to Gish Gallop Girl, which is what it's been posted as.
And you may have been referred here by someone who likes you or hates you.
I don't know.
Your life is your life, man.
I'm not going to step into it.
This is the new intro that's going to be running in the front of all those old shows.
You will know that you're in newer material when you hear us introduce the newer episodes as Gish Gallop Girl.
And that is all kind of explained and handled in what I believe is episode 8. Right now, I could be totally wrong on that, but I believe it's episode 8 that I'm about to post.
Where we explain the name change, and we go through what the new goals of the show are, the new website, and all that good shit.
So, at any rate, this is just running for this.
We just wanted to say hi, and we will do our damnedest to have a new episode every single week.
That's all I got.
And also to try weird, nasty sodas every week as well.
Yep, yep, we're gonna, yep.
Ah, yeah.
Yep.
Alright, everybody, have a great night.
Okay.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to Please Only One Lie at a Time.
I am your regular host, Thomas Anderson, and with me as always is...
Matthew Anderson.
There we go.
Good.
He remembered his name this time.
How about that shit?
Okay, so in our world, it has been many, many, many weeks since we last recorded the show, but you will be hearing this in a sequential order, so lucky you.
Yeah.
It has been almost a year since we first started this project.
Really?
Yeah.
Jesus.
Yeah, we started back in last November.
Oh, God, yeah.
We're going into October now.
I was still 17 then.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, dear God.
Life has gotten in the way quite a bit.
But we're happy, we're healthy, everything is good.
So what we're going to be doing is we're going to be trying to kick out one episode a week.
I wanted a backlog of a lot of episodes.
Didn't have the time, and then, you know, I got to the point where I was working every day and coming home and not really working on anything because I was saving working on the show script and research and stuff for my days off.
Well, I haven't really taken many days off, and when I tend to, it tends to be something where I don't really want to do anything that looks like work.
So what I had to get right in my own head was the idea that...
I should spend a little bit of time after work every day just taking care of this.
And that's what the research for this episode is.
It is me coming home and going, alright, what now, lady?
So, here we are.
We're in Blackout Chapter 1. We made it to Chapter 1, y 'all.
This chapter is titled, On Conservatism.
So, do you have anything to add before I dive into this?
Well, just the fact that contemplating that it's actually been a year.
Close to.
Close to.
I think we started in December of last year.
Yeah, because it had just started snowing.
It was November-ish then.
Yeah, I think near the end of November we had started it.
Because I think in the...
The prologue, epilogue, whatever it's called.
Yeah.
For that part, we had started in November.
But just the fact that it's almost been a year since we started this, which means it's almost been a year and a half since we've been up here.
No.
No?
No.
No?
No, because we had moved here in May of last year.
Right, right, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, kind of.
Year and a half-ish?
You're kind of, kind of, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But, um...
Yeah, no, no.
Also that it's taken us this long to be on Chapter 1. Yeah, I know.
Well, I mean, to be fair, like I said, you know, there were several months where I just didn't do anything.
But the way that I have this set up now, and hopefully going in through the winter here, when I actually take days off during the winter, as I anticipate having to do, because blizzards are real, and regardless of what anyone says about the weather, it's going to happen.
Yeah, I mean, we had a surprise blizzard.
Last year, and that was fun watching cars kind of drift on the highway, but also kind of scary.
So yeah, in times like that, I will be doing more work on the research for the show, and we might be recording more episodes just to have as a backlog, but we're going to try to keep to a one-episode-a-week format.
Don't hate us if we can't live up to that, but we're going to try to do that because when I set this up, by the time you will have heard this, we will have...
I've been releasing one episode a week, and we will have a Patreon setup and stuff, and just the idea of having a Patreon setup, I've thought a lot about different levels and tiers and stuff, and to be honest with you guys, I don't want this to be like,
okay, for instance, I love the QAnon Anonymous show.
What those guys do on there is great, and I loved a program that is no longer running new episodes called Eat the Rich.
And even Desperate Acts of Capitalism, they're all guilty of one thing to me, and that is they release an episode for the public, and then they release an episode privately for patrons.
I get why they do that.
It does add some value to being their patrons, but regular listeners that maybe can't afford to support several different fucking shows miss a lot of content.
And then kind of a further kick in the groin is when they reference on those shows that they talked about something that was only a private episode.
And it's like...
Okay, great.
I'm glad you guys had fun and made some money, but right now, kind of fuck you.
Yeah. It feels like a kind of fuck you to people that don't have the time or the extra footage to just throw at several different programs, especially when they talk about, oh yeah, for the cost of five bucks a month.
Okay, well, that's great.
I'm glad you guys can pay your bills, but I'm already paying for...
Hulu.
Disney Plus.
Amazon, technically.
What else?
HBO Max.
Because fuck them.
It's HBO Max.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's four things right now that I've replaced cable TV viewing with in my life.
And I'm not paying for anything else.
Oh yeah, YouTube Premium.
Oh yeah, YouTube Premium.
Yeah, we have that.
You know, granted we have family levels at all this shit, but I'm not paying.
Another digital creator for another thing.
So what now?
Well, it's like one of the D&D podcasts I used to listen to.
I absolutely love their show, but I had to stop listening to them at a certain point because they started doing one-shot adventures that were like, you could watch the video and listen to it if you were a Patreon, and I'm like, that's great and all, but I'm making $13 an hour,
so...
Yeah.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Our patron level, there will be different levels for different titles.
I like how Knowledge Fight does things.
How Knowledge Fight does it is they have a $1 a month, and then the next tier up is, I think, $10, $15 a month, and then they have another tier up from there.
And then they save the final tier for people that do things like heavy donations or that help them out in one way or another.
Like a treasure trove of books or something like that.
Yeah.
That's called Raptor Princesses.
And that is a whole ass other thing.
I'm not explaining it.
Okay.
I can't possibly explain that.
Raptor Princesses.
Yeah.
It would take an entire one of our episodes for me to explain that, and I'm not going to do that.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
We are...
So they have everything from...
From policy wonks to raptor princesses.
Basically everybody at the dollar level is a policy wonk.
The next level I think is a technocrat and then I think there's a globalist and then there's fucking raptor princesses.
So, as I was saying, I like what they do.
They don't run ads on their show.
They don't read ad copy.
I never wanted to do that.
That's why I never wanted to get into radio because the prospect of doing that was so abhorrent because I would hear radio DJs just...
Read copy that I know they didn't like.
So we were listening to, kind of off-subject here, but on my way home from work, me and Mom were listening to a...
We were listening to the radio, and it was the one that's run by the college.
We're sitting there, and we're listening to it, and the DJ that comes on is like, he's clearly new at this and nervous, and he's just trying to read the ad copy and stuttering every five seconds, and he's like, oh, thanks, Dad.
Yeah, thank you.
Sorry, my dad just brought me some food, and oh, right.
If you have this vitamin deficiency, you'll want this.
Like, he was so just falling apart at the seams, and he just could not hit the play button soon enough on the music.
He's like, I'm being told now by my manager to go ahead and start the music, so sorry, guys.
Oh, God.
Yeah, so...
Yeah, I don't want to...
Well, like, the ad copy that I hear them read on shows that I do enjoy, Behind the Bastards, basically anything that Kevin Smith does, I hear them read these ads and, you know, granted it's for things that I may even like, I may even engage with.
I wouldn't have given a shit about Native products if Kevin Smith had not repeatedly ran ads about it.
I do like their stuff.
But, that all being said, you know, I don't want to have to rely on that.
Yeah.
Especially because if an advertiser turns out to be...
A shitbag company.
I don't want to be there with like several hours worth of ad copy going, well, do I delete that?
Because as it is, as it is right now, something I have to do is I have to go back into our episodes and put in notes where I say, by the way, we're going to be talking about this podcast later in this episode and I know now those people are shit.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry, but because it was part of the conversation, I'm leaving it in.
But just so you know, I do not support these people.
Yeah.
Now that we know this information, we apologize.
Yeah.
I mean, Knowledge Fight went as far as to...
They were involved with this particular shitbag, who I will not name.
But they were involved with them.
They did an entire episode with them, and they just took it out of their catalog.
Yeah.
They were like, no.
Yeah.
They removed it entirely, and that is the freedom that you can do when you don't have some advertiser breathing down your neck, and you don't have, you know...
Well, that's also part of what...
Because I do want to, like, start figuring out how to record longer videos of, you know, the games and such that I play and start posting up on, like, YouTube and such.
Yeah.
But the thing that scares me with that is...
I think there's a cat at my door.
Is there?
Yeah, probably Squish.
Go see about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the hell is that?
I don't know.
Is it a glass or something?
I don't know.
If it was important, I'll find it later.
Right.
Come on in, Squish.
Come on in, Kitty.
Yes, people are in here.
They're doing a thing.
Podcast, Kitty.
Come on in.
Give me the cat.
Feed me, Kitty.
All right.
Okay, here we go.
But...
I'm holding her like a baby.
That's what scares me about going onto YouTube and such is one of the YouTubers that I watch that is extremely honest about everything.
He, for a little while there, was going, I'm not going to do advertisements for companies.
Because when you do an advertisement, you have to censor yourself.
You have to do this.
You have to do that.
Because if you do anything like this...
Oi!
Birds!
I'm sorry, dear listeners.
We're recording in a room that has parakeets.
Yeah.
I hope they're not too loud.
They may be activated by the fact that there's a kitty in here.
There usually is not a kitty in here.
Yeah.
They like the kitty.
But, you know, he's like, you have to watch language, you have to do this, you have to do that.
And I fucking hate doing that.
And then at a certain point, he started to have to be monetized by YouTube.
And then a company endorsed him.
And that company fully.
Yeah.
Yeah, their standards and practices are...
I know when they started demonetizing people for the smallest things, that's when a lot of adverters, you know, when a lot of YouTubers and stuff decided that they needed to clean up their acts or whatever, and it's like, you know,
part of the whole appeal of doing this is not having to do that.
So, you know.
Allowing yourself to have a lack of a filter is one of the nice things of doing something.
Yeah, it's why I never went into radio, because I didn't want to have to have anybody else's hands in the work.
I didn't want to have to be editorialized.
There's a lot of things that I didn't want to have to happen.
And then, you know, podcasting came along.
Yeah.
And, you know, then I've worked for years on, well, what kind of show would I even do?
Well, this one.
So, here we are.
We've explained ourselves.
So, we got the production meeting out of the way.
Yeah.
So, at any rate, let's start talking about Blackout Chapter 1. It's titled, On Conservatism.
Now, in this chapter, Candace Owens discusses her family's past.
The first lie she tells is in her description of the Ku Klux Klan, or the KKK.
This is a talking point that she and others like her, such as Alex Jones, Dinesh D'Souza, etc., will repeat forever.
And that name I just said there, Dinesh D'Souza.
Oh, we're going to be doing episodes on that motherfucker.
He's written many books.
I don't want to be racist here, but is he like Indian from India?
I think he, yes, yeah, because he's talked before in his books even about how he worked very hard to erase his accent.
Okay.
Yeah, like I think he was born over there and then came here when he was like an 8 or 10 year old or some shit like that.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, he came over as a child and he has not been a good little person.
Ah, yeah.
They're also all friends.
So in the notes section for this one, I've included a link to a USA Today story from June 2020 that pushes back on the trope.
What?
The KKK was started by Democrats after the Civil War.
But that would be like saying that all Republicans are fascists today.
Not all Republicans are fascists, but a lot of fascists are Republicans.
Yes.
And as we've discussed already, there was a well-known party flip with the passing of the Civil Rights Act that saw people from both sides rejoin with the side that made more sense to their values.
Racist Democrats became Republicans, mostly, and vice versa.
That said, it's boring to keep going after this lie.
So, from now on, we're just going to note that she said it and move along.
This is what I wrote.
Unfortunately, This is something I think we're going to have to keep coming back to.
So, is the real story here that I lied once?
I don't know.
But yeah, we're just going to have...
I would love to just note that she said it and move along, but we really can't because she just keeps bringing it up throughout her career.
She does make a very bold assertion.
She goes along with laying out a murder board of Klan politicians.
And then claims that modern Democrats say that the Klan was technically a Democrat organization.
She calls this, quote, utter nonsense, born of nuance and doublespeak.
The Klan was created to do their bidding and led by their party leaders and their effort to do so.
This claim is presented without sourcing or evidence.
And since maybe only the estates of people long dead will give half a shit, this is a claim she can make without much pushback.
Her exact claims, which I will try to summarize with some research, are, quote, So,
their efforts began in the spring with Forrest taking meetings with racist whites throughout Atlanta to organize statewide Klan membership in Georgia.
Shortly thereafter, Klansmen strategically murdered George Ashburn, a white man and Republican organizer.
Forrest's friend, Frank Blair Jr., was nominated as the Democrat vice presidential candidate to support New York Governor Horatio Seymour, whom they selected to be their presidential hopeful.
Their campaign slogan was, our ticket, our motto, this is a white man's country, let white men rule.
But despite their best efforts, Republican presidential nominee Ulysses S. Grant defeated Seymour and won the national election.
That is not to say the Klan's efforts were not somewhat successful.
In fact, in the states where they murdered the most blacks, Georgia and Louisiana, Grant lost.
But he won like 80% of the votes, so fuck him.
But yeah, she said most of that.
This is all pretty much true.
So she gets a rare, good job, Candace, for all of that.
But moving on, she goes on to repeat the claim that the Democrat Party created the KKK.
Again, this is false.
The KKK was started by people that happened to be Democrats.
Simple as.
She goes on to make the claim the Klan was created to do their bidding and led by their party leaders in their effort to do so.
Candace provides no actual evidence to back up this claim.
She goes on to note that President Grant helped push policies that would effectively neuter the Klan and that they would be pushed underground for about 40 or so years.
Then she goes on to claim, Which is not the actual title of that movie.
It's actually A Birth of a Nation.
I'm unfamiliar with A Birth of a Nation.
Oh boy.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Yeah, we're going to get into that.
But first, there is no source given for this claim.
I poked around for several minutes and read some interesting facts about Peachtree Street, but there was no historical mention of this.
So it might have been something she heard, but regardless, it doesn't seem to have any basis in reality.
But it is effective in her storytelling because Peachtree is a major street that runs through downtown Atlanta, and that's about it.
Now, one of the things I came across that I didn't write down, but one of the things that I came across was the lady, Margaret, I do not remember her last name.
Don't come at me, book, Twitter.
I don't care.
The lady that wrote...
Gone with the Wind.
Yeah.
Margaret Atwell, maybe.
I don't know.
Anyway.
I don't know.
The only Margaret that's coming to mind is Margaret Robbie, and I know that's not the right person.
Yeah, that's not the right name.
Yeah, I know.
No, it's not the right name at all.
It's not.
My name is Margot.
Margot Robbie.
See, see, my point in case.
God.
Anyway.
I'm going to let that go, and I'm going to move on.
Margaret Thatcher?
No.
No?
Although she was a Nazi.
Oh.
Okay, she wasn't a Nazi.
She was just evil.
Yeah, no.
Margot, whatever, who cares.
The writer of Gone with the Wind was killed on Peachtree Street by a car in like 1949.
Yeah.
Intentionally or accidentally?
Accidentally.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't think it was intentional.
Not from the stories I read, anyway.
But yeah, Peachtree Street is a major street.
We live in Minneapolis.
Hennepin Avenue here is a major street.
A lot of shit happens on Hennepin Avenue.
It runs through Washington Avenue.
It runs through downtown.
That's where one of the best pizza places in the city is.
Totally unpaid words here.
Black sheep coal-fired pizza on Washington Avenue?
Fucking the bomb.
Most of the black sheep locations are.
Well, there's only the two that I know of.
Apparently there's a few in the city, but...
Well, I know for sure of two.
Yeah, yeah.
The two that we know of for sure.
We've been to, yeah.
But, yeah, so...
She goes on to say, No,
credit to Candace.
This is also all true.
Except...
Yeah.
Where she says the Confederate Klansmen, because the Klan came after the Confederacy had fallen.
Yeah.
Wasn't it made up of the scraps of the Confederacy?
Yeah, kind of.
Basically six dudes whose names I will leave the history to shit on.
In a lawyer's office.
One of them was a lawyer.
In a law office, decided on how the clan was going to be constructed.
Basically, what these guys needed was Dungeons and Dragons, not to go out and terrorize people.
Behind the Bastards did several wonderful episodes on why the clan sucks and how they started, and I won't get into any of that here.
I will just link to those.
Because...
Robert Evans does a bang-up job that I don't want to take away from.
It was very entertaining.
One of the levels of membership is Goblin.
Goblin.
You have the Grand Dragon and you have Goblin.
I think Cyclops is another one.
I hate them so much for that shit.
You know?
If they had been, like, maybe...
I mean, I don't know when D&D started, but...
Far too late.
Yeah.
Far too late, yeah.
Gary Gygax was born way out of time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What these guys needed was, like, therapy and Dungeons& Dragons.
They did not need to go and do what they fucking did.
But anyway.
I don't know if this was a deliberate attempt by Candace to equate the two, but in print it's at least intellectually dishonest.
A lot of Klansmen had served in the Confederacy because the Klan started in the South and a lot of Southern men were soldiers in the Confederate Army because as the tide turned on them during the war, the South was pulling practically any man available into the war.
I've read stories most of my life about how men...
Using the term loosely, as young as 12 and as old as 85 were drafted.
Yeah.
Basically, if you could stand up and swing a machete, you were drafted.
Like, they were taking anybody.
They were retaking guys that had gone injured and presumably out of the war.
You know, they even conscripted slaves to fight for the South.
Yeah.
If memory serves...
That was usually a bad idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they'd usually make themselves known to the Union and then daddle on out.
Yeah, it generally did not work in their favor.
So, yeah.
But I want to shine a light on the writer of the book, the Klansman.
The writer, Thomas Dixon Jr., has a lot of parallels with today's right-wing media presenters.
Dixon was a failed actor in his own time.
And when he couldn't get stage work, he eventually resorted to writing about a time in which he never lived, about how great the past was for white people, and how the government oppressed the South.
From what I read of the film's plot, Dixon basically did a Romeo and Juliet against the backdrop of the Reconstruction period after the Civil War.
Romeo, in this case, is a U.S. government official who falls in love with a Southern woman.
The Klan becomes a thing as they act as a vigilante force, fighting off government injustice and attempts by black men to ruin their women.
Dixon did not live...
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Written by a hack that failed in a job that no one wanted him in.
We see parallels of this today in the right-wing media crowd because a lot of them are failed comedians, writers, actors, and so on.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Successful comedians, generally, with few exceptions, tend to go, "What do people like?"
And they work on everything.
They work on their timing.
They work on their tone.
Maybe they craft themselves as a character.
You know, like a guy way before your time, Andrew Dice Clay, created a character for himself that he called the Dice Man.
Now, people got to know that as him.
That was never actually him.
But he played this guy so well, people wanted to see that character all the time.
He had to get therapy because he was like, that's who he thought he was.
I have not followed up on his story in quite some time.
I don't know if he became shitty or became normal.
I don't know.
But that's what happens to a lot of these people.
They get absorbed into being the stage persona because that's who they have to invent to...
career success that they want.
And there's a lot of people that do that.
There's politicians that do that.
There's anybody in the public life, you always have to wonder, is this who they are?
Are they being who they are?
Or are they being who they want to be?
Or who am I really seeing on camera right now?
Or who am I hearing?
But yeah, you see them do that.
Even that path towards stardom generally takes more time than most of these people have.
For example, Steven Crowder.
He has a show called Louder with Crowder.
He's been a big YouTube presence for a long time.
His career started as the voice of the character The Brain on Arthur.
The PBS cartoon.
Yeah.
He did that when he was a kid, I think for a year or two.
But if you ask him about it today, he'll get violently angry.
No one on his show is ever supposed to ask him about that.
He's so shitty about it.
Oh, what?
You want out now?
Okay.
Alright, let her out.
Maybe the birds will calm down.
Yeah.
But yeah, so we've got like...
Like I said, Steven Crowder is a fine example, but Steven Crowder lately has gotten into a lot of trouble over the last year or so because his wife is divorcing him because he's really shitty.
He's most famous, I think, as the guy from the meme who's sitting at a table in a blue shirt and says, whatever changed my mind.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Yeah, I've seen him.
That's him.
He used to do videos where he would just walk up to college students at random and be like, tell me what you think of this, you know, social issue.
These people are overworked.
They got shit going on in their lives.
Yeah.
And you've just asked them, this man on the street shit, they don't have time for it.
A lot of them would give him a, I don't know, answer.
Some of them would try to be funny.
Some of them would just be like, duh, whatever.
Yeah.
You know, it's like...
Just being in class, they were probably more accomplished than this motherfucker had ever really been in his life.
Yeah, I think there was a guy that got a true TV show that was just...
Oh, Billy on the Street.
Yeah.
Billy on the Street was kind of making fun of the whole concept.
Yeah, I remember there was one episode that I actually left the show on long enough to finish watching the one scene.
Yeah. He walked up to a lady and asked her a question.
And she was a New Yorker with a New York minute to spare.
And she was like, "I don't fucking know what you're talking about.
Get out of my fucking way." And he's like, "That's not very nice to say." And she's like, "Fuck you.
I don't give a flying fuck." Yeah.
And she just like cussed him out right there and then like stormed off.
And he's like, "Well, that was...
un-nixed."
Well, he was...
To be fair to her, he was annoying.
Oh, yeah, no.
I didn't ever care much for the show, but it clearly had an audience.
I've seen him do other stuff, and he's actually pretty good.
It's like the personality that he has to put on for that.
It's so...
God damn annoying.
Which I think was the whole point of having him do it.
Yeah.
But yeah, a lot of that man on the street shit.
Like, it's the lowest level of interviewing.
There's another guy who tried to get really famous on YouTube doing that, and he's done a lot of work with Alex Jones as well.
So is Steven Crowder.
The guy's name is Mark Dice.
No relation to Andrew Dice Clay.
He would nut and die if he found out he was related to Andrew Dice Clay.
Just for the shared glory of possible DNA.
Mark Dice is fucking terrible.
He's another one that did that.
I don't think Candace Owens has ever had the courage to do Man on the Street shit because a lot of people just when they hear her voice just start lashing out violently in all kinds of directions.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like having a mosquito flying around your head.
Yeah.
That barks like a chihuahua.
I read someone that said once that listening to Candace Owens' voice should be a war crime.
And I was like, yeah, but I have to do it for this show.
So, reading her books, I can hear her voice in my head, and it is unfun.
Let me tell you.
It is very unfun.
Have you ever tried to read her books but try to think of Morgan Freeman saying it?
No.
No?
I wouldn't do that to Morgan Freeman.
Fair enough.
It's honestly how I...
If he read the audiobook version of this, for one, I would be shocked.
But two, I would be like, I still can't do it.
I don't know how much money you would have to pay Morgan Freeman to do that.
I think he's beyond money.
I think he's gotten old enough that he's beyond money.
He's like Betty White.
They got him for another show that I watch on YouTube.
True Facts About...
He did his own episode, but normally it's a white dude that does that.
He did True Facts About Morgan Freeman as Morgan Freeman.
Well, it's like they got Deadpool for it as well.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, like I said, you see a lot of parallels here.
And it was funny to me in doing the research for this because then I had to do a deep dive into this guy's life.
Into Thomas Dixon's life.
Yeah.
Yeah, he just...
Let me pull up a little bit of the Wikipedia page here.
I have the tab open, so...
Yeah, he was...
He wrote The Klansman.
And then, something that Candace goes on to talk about, and we'll probably talk about more in the next episode, is Woodrow Wilson was friends with Dixon.
That much is true.
They were friends.
They were college friends.
They hung out together a fuckton.
Dixon and Wilson, when...
When Dixon's book was written, it was 1905.
The Klansman movie, which it's spelled with a C in the title.
I think they did that for the book because the Klan was fucking hated.
They had been declared a terrorist organization.
So I think that's how they got around it in print because everyone knew the Klan spelled their shit with a K. Oh yeah.
Do you know what a meeting of the clan is called?
You'll never guess the word.
It doesn't exist in English.
A cluckening.
You're so close.
It's a cleagle.
A cleagle.
That's a cleagle.
It's a cleagle.
That sounds like just the worst attempted...
It's like a portmanteau, but the words still don't exist.
Do you know the Klan had a summer camp in the 30s or 40s or whatever?
Do you know what it was called?
What?
It was called the Cool Kids Camp.
Oh my fucking Christ.
Yeah.
I wish I made this shit up.
I really do.
I wish I made this shit up.
But I never could because I'm just like, oh, fuck the Klan.
They don't exist.
And then it turns out that they kept trying to.
My...
I...
This joke isn't even any good, but just...
Do you think Klansmen like cankles?
Yes.
It reaffirms their whatever.
Where the calf meets the ankle.
Yeah, no, I know what cankles are.
Yeah, no.
And not, you know, not to body shame anybody.
No, no, no.
But you figure if everyone's wearing robes, all you can see is their ankles.
Oh, yeah, yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
You know, it's like the Amish in reverse or something.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
It's acceptable to show your ankle if you're a king.
If you're in the clan, you have a robe?
It might not be acceptable to show your ankle.
Okay, I don't know clan robe etiquette, and I don't want to learn it.
But I feel like at some point in doing the work for this podcast, I'm going to learn clan robe etiquette, and I'm not looking forward to that day.
I'm not looking forward to the day that I have to go to archive.org and download one of their fucking books and be like, great, now I know this.
I don't want to know that.
I'm trying to put that day off as far as possible as I can in my life.
But, yeah, so...
So, Dixon's father, Thomas Dixon Sr., was the son of an English-Scottish father and a German mother.
See, it's already, like, it goes back to there.
Was a well-known Baptist minister and a landowner and slave owner.
His maternal grandfather, Frederick Hambright.
What the fuck?
Possible namesake for the fictional North Carolina town of Hambright, in which the Leopard Spots takes place, was a German Palatine immigrant who fought in both the local militia and the North Carolina line of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War.
Dixon Sr., or Dixon Jr. wrote the thing.
Dixon Sr. had inherited slaves and property through his first wife's father, which were valued at $100,000 in 1862.
Jeez.
That's a lot.
In his adolescence, Dixon helped out on the family farms, an experience that he hated, but he would later say that it helped him relate to the working man's plight.
Dixon grew up after the Civil War, during the Reconstruction period.
The government confiscation of farmland, coupled with what Dixon saw as the corruption of local politicians, the vengefulness of Union troops, along with the general lawlessness of the period, all served to embitter him, and he became staunchly opposed to the reforms of construction.
So, he did live through the Reconstruction phase.
I was off on that.
I read it wrong the first time.
But the point still stands.
He wrote a shitty novel that unfortunately became the Star Wars of racist films.
Because it was a silent picture.
So that's good.
Because silent films really kind of fell off when audio got invented in the movies.
Yeah.
But it was a silent film that did super well in its time.
It had an intermission.
It was a long fucking movie.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So it had an intermission.
But yeah, unfortunately, it's part of the National Library of Congress archives.
Which means anybody can watch it for free.
If you choose to watch this movie, listener, and I may have to watch it at some point, don't pay for it.
Don't fucking pay for it.
Go to archive.org or something like that.
Find it for free online.
Do not fucking pay for this film.
It's a silent movie that's over 100 years old.
It's far out of copyright.
Don't fucking pay for this.
Anyway, it won awards.
In spite of itself, in spite of people hating the shit out of this movie.
It won several awards for camera work.
They figured out how to make a battle of hundreds of extras look like thousands.
They did a lot of groundbreaking things.
Even though it was shit, it was...
They managed to push the bracket on a lot of things for the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I said, it's one of those things that, like I know now, it sucks that it exists, but it does exist.
Yeah.
And, yeah, it, oh my god.
It's like, but where it gets really weird and fucky is Woodrow Wilson having been a friend of the writer, and like I said, the book came out in 1905.
The movie came out in 1915.
Another historical bitter bitch of it is that A Birth of a Nation was the first movie ever screened at the White House.
Of all the films to pick for number one, for the first thing that the White House ever screened in their film room was A Birth of a Nation.
Quite possibly the most racist fucked up movie ever.
Because every single, well not every single, but I've been reading up on it, most of the actors in the film were white.
Which means most of the people playing black roles were in blackface.
Doing the most minstrel-y shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, so.
Yeah.
I have to wonder if that was an ignorant pick or an intentional pick.
Well, a lot of the NAACP at the time protested against the movie.
Everyone who knew that it was coming out because it was a big deal.
That someone had made a movie of this book and you couldn't hide it in that time period.
At most, you could maybe suppress the news that was being filmed.
Even so, loose lips and film was all new at the time.
Yeah, it's not exactly like today where they can just go, yeah.
They can lock down a set and put everybody behind a wall of NDAs and threaten to ruin their lives with lawsuits and shit.
And if they do manage to get it out, you can just go, okay, well, you can only do it at these three theaters for these two days.
Good luck.
Yeah, like, you know, it's one of those things that these days there's much more of a lockdown.
But, you know, back then people had protested the production of it.
They protested the release of it.
And it wasn't just black people protesting it, obviously.
It was anybody with a voice that wasn't a shitbag was protesting this movie.
As it was, Woodrow Wilson already had a lot of other shitty things on his plate as a president.
He was also known for suppressing the female vote.
Yeah.
You know, leading to the events of the excellent film Iron Jawed Angels, which is about the suffragettes' path to getting women voting rights.
Yeah, no, Woodrow Wilson was a complete shitty president, and this was just like...
Like, it's hard to pick the shittiest things he did, because he did so many shitty things.
Yeah.
Yeah, but, yeah, he...
Which is probably why they didn't really teach me about him in school when we were going through that time period.
There's no reason to teach most kids about Woodrow Wilson because even if you're like, look, he was shitty.
This is why he was shitty.
There's a whole mountain of reasons why he was shitty.
There's going to be those two or three kids in any class of 30 that are like, yeah, but he sounds alright.
Yeah.
He sounds okay.
He was just speaking his mind.
The president should say what he thinks.
There's always going to be those kids.
Those kids are going to be in a New York classroom.
And they're going to sound a lot like that.
They're going to be in an Alaska classroom.
They're going to be in a California classroom.
They might have more...
Dude, he just wanted to do the things, man.
Why would people elect him if he was so bad?
They might be like that.
There's always going to be those people that are like...
Yeah, but both sides are wrong in a lot of ways, man.
Yeah.
No.
And unfortunately, even though the modern thought is, it's okay, violence is never the answer unless you're punching a Nazi.
It doesn't hold up in a lot of grade schools.
Yeah.
We can't just do that.
Yeah.
As much as we would like to.
That being said, if the opportunity ever presents itself and you see someone marching with a swastika flag down the street and you decide to run up and punch them and you get arrested, I will bail you out of jail.
Okay.
So basically, when I get that one phone call, just go, hey, Dad, you're going to be proud of me.
I punched a Nazi.
Well, maybe don't own up to it on the phone because those calls are recorded.
But just be like, you know, hey, Some violence may have occurred.
I've allegedly been accused of a thing.
I'll explain when you get here.
And then I'll drop what I'm doing and I'll go down to the wherever and bail you the fuck out.
But I expect that to go both ways.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, I...
Oh, God.
But yeah, like I said, it was funny to me though because I'm looking through here and I'm reading through this dude's life story.
What?
Bailing out of jail for punching a Nazi.
The first thing that came to my mind was, yeah, drinks afterwards, right?
Allegedly, because you're underage.
Well, I hope if I'm punching a Nazi, I'm already of age.
You don't know.
Opportunities present themselves in weird times, man.
Don't try to prognosticate the future here.
Granted, we live in a much more liberal city, but that doesn't stop these people from being like, let's get a group together!
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, God.
You know, I do love that we live in a city where the largest, loudest churches have pride flags.
And a lot of the Christians that I've met up here are nothing like Southern Christians.
No, they're very chill.
They're very cool.
Oh, God.
I mean, how can you go to, like, a Somali barbecue and smell that food and not be like, y 'all are okay?
Yeah.
I mean, shit, we live in a mostly black neighborhood now, and just going for my typical walk, I smell that barbecue, and I have to fight the urge to, like, walk up to their fence and poke my head over and just go, hey, there room for a skinny white boy in there?
I mean...
You know, and it's like, man, I don't, you know, like I look around and I'm like, how can you, how?
How can you live in a town of like 80 people and everybody's like related?
And everybody's sour cream.
Yeah, like what the fuck?
But yeah, I mean, but yeah, what got me back around to this though is this dude.
Highly educated for his time.
Yes, he dealt with some adversity in his young life, but his education brought him out of that area as much as he wanted to go.
He wound up working in New York, trying to be an actor, but he was apparently too lanky.
They looked at him and were like, no, your body type sucks.
And rather than work on his physique or try to work on a skill that would make him viable, he instead chose to write shitty things that sold among a shitty population, that sold very well, that sold well enough that a shitty producer and film company decided to make a shitty movie.
And unfortunately, an attractive talent that it didn't deserve.
Yeah.
Because that's the other thing here, is that we see parallels with this today.
Like I said, you know, you got all your, you got your Candace Owens and your Steven Crowders and people like that, but...
Mel Gibson.
Yeah.
Highly regarded, very racist.
Yeah.
But highly regarded, highly talented man.
Mm-hmm.
Like Patriot, for Pete's sake.
Yeah, well, the Patriot, yeah.
You know, I think my problem with that movie is that it's...
I always feel like watching it, like, it's okay.
Yeah.
But it also feels like a jerk-off.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like, oh, what more can we cram into this?
Yeah.
Like, I feel like the production meetings were just like, can we get a Frenchman?
How about someone who doesn't want to be a slave anymore?
Yeah.
Who?
Who can we get that's the most vile guy to be our enemy general?
The guy they got was the dude that wound up playing Lucius Malfoy.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, how can we pull all these things?
It's like they pulled every lever to make it the most jack-off-free movie.
It's okay.
Not my favorite.
I loved him in the Lethal Weapon films.
Oh, yeah.
Those are great.
The Mad Max movies, of course.
I always forget that he was Mad Max, because I only saw, like, the original role of them once.
Yeah.
I think I've only ever actually watched them, like...
Much like Transformer films, I've only watched them once, and I'm like, okay, I understand what's going on.
I probably will watch this when I'm 60. But...
Well, you know, and then they had...
That fucking Tom Hardy played Mad Max in Fury Road.
Yeah, yeah.
Venom himself.
Venom Bane himself played Mad Max.
Yeah.
And they put him in a Bane mask within the first few moments of that.
Yeah, to establish.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, you know, that movie almost won Best Film at the Oscars that year.
Really?
Yeah.
Damn.
It was nominated.
It won a fuckton of other awards.
Yeah.
But, yeah, no, Fury Road's a great film.
Love the wardrobe.
Yeah, I mean, they did a lot of great things in that.
But yeah, you know, Mel Gibson's had a pretty decent career here and there.
But now he's working with the dude he cast in Passion of the Christ as Jesus, Jim Caviezel, who is entirely insane.
QAnon Anonymous did a...
They've done a recent follow-up that I haven't listened to yet.
They did one of their highest regarded episodes.
It's called Welcome to the Kvortex.
And it's all about how Jim Caviezel is crazy as shit.
And now he's in this QAnon movie that doesn't mention QAnon at all.
But, like...
It's very Q-focused.
But, yeah, now you've got Mel Gibson, like...
Putting money into this guy, putting money into these things, and it's like, oh my god.
His dad is...
Knowledge Fight has done several episodes where his dad, Hutton Gibson, showed up on InfoWars back in 2004.
Hutton, on InfoWars and off, was a racist shitbag that had an excellent relationship with his son, unfortunately.
And when you hear these things and then you realize that it would just be maybe another year or two later that Mel Gibson would get arrested and would drunkenly slur a bunch of shit about Jew producers and stuff.
Yeah.
Because when you realize the apple didn't fall that far from the tree.
Yeah.
He's just such a good actor that people don't want to buy it.
Mm-hmm.
Sucks.
Yeah.
But that being said, you know, he's the rare exception.
Just like with this guy, Dixon.
Was the rare exception of immense talent that focused the wrong fucking way at some point.
Yeah.
You know, he didn't have to do all this.
But then you got all these other people, like I said, in production of that film, that could figure out special effects.
They could figure out how to do different camera angles, close-ups, and things like that.
Things that didn't exist.
They were really good at what they did.
They were technically amazing.
But...
They made a bad thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, like, look, honestly, it's like a lot of the people that designed shit for the Nazis.
Mm-hmm.
Brilliant people.
Brilliant engineers.
In a way.
Yeah.
In many ways.
Brilliant engineers.
Hugo Boss, which is a fashion house that still exists.
Yeah.
Made the Nazi uniforms.
Really?
From the top down.
Oh, man.
I, uh...
Oh, man.
I have a co-worker that's, like, really proud that she had a Hugo Boss shirt for a while.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were a huge, huge development house for Nazi fashion.
Oh, yeah.
I never knew that one.
Other things, BMW still exists.
Yeah.
You know, they made tanks and cars and shit for the Nazi elite Volkswagen at the time.
Volkswagen has changed hands several times.
I think BMW now is part of Chrysler or some shit like that.
You know what I really hate about the Nazi upper command?
And this is probably something dumb to hate about them, given all the other shit.
But the Nazi high command's fucking trench coats?
Yeah.
Fucking flawless.
They look great after you remove all the Nazi insignias from them.
Yeah.
And that's what I hate about them is I look at their coat and I'm just like, God damn, remove that iron cross from there and I would still wear that.
Yeah, and that was designed by Hugo Boss.
Well, now...
First thought that just came to mind was, well, now I know where to shop for that, but...
I feel bad about that sometimes.
Don't give Hugo Boss money.
Go to, like, Temu.
Buy it from a Chinese production house.
What I'll do is I'll go to Hugo Boss to get the name of it.
Yeah.
And then I'll go to other places with that clothing name and just buy their version of it.
There you go.
There you go.
I mean, there's a chance that you could get, like, a tech-focused one from Temu that has, like, pockets for, you know, all your shit.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Don't count Temu out.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah.
But, yeah, so that's where we're...
That's where we're stopping because I had to do a deep dive into this motherfucker's life and this book, The Klansman, and this movie, and I hate him for it, and I despise Candace Owens once more for making me go down a rabbit hole,
in theory, in theory forcing me to go down a rabbit hole that I didn't want to know anything about.
I already know the title, A Birth of a Nation.
I didn't need to know more.
Yeah.
But, because she clearly doesn't, oh, and here's something, here's something that I want to include in audio on this one.
Okay, so I've mentioned that her book does not have a bibliography, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I've mentioned that at best it has a notes section.
Yeah.
It has notes for the Larry Elder part.
It has notes for Candace's introduction.
Yeah.
And when you're looking through the notes, you're like, alright, where's the notes for...
Okay, I see them here for this, I see them here for this, and I see them here for chapter two.
There's nothing on chapter one?
Not shit.
Oh, Jesus.
Not a fucking thing.
So any claims that she makes are backed up by nothing in this chapter.
That is a decision.
That is a decision that was made.
God.
Because I'm looking at the e-book version, which could have been updated.
Yeah.
It could have been.
It was not.
God.
There's no update for that.
So they just let that shit go out into the world with no notes, nothing to prove anything.
Just...
Because...
Oh, my guess.
My guess, if I had to guess, is that somebody in legal was like, don't do this.
Don't do this.
Don't.
Yeah.
Somebody in legal maybe met with somebody in editing and they were like, we're just going to cut that out.
Because...
Honestly, her key audience for this is her key audience for her podcast, which sucks.
Oh, have you actually listened to her?
God, yes, I have.
Just a couple of times.
Her episodes range from anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours.
Oh, right, I remember you mentioned that, the last filming.
Yeah, and, um, yeah, I don't...
God, she's terrible.
She's just so bad at what she does.
The worst part, I think, the worst part was hearing her run ad copy.
Is it like that at the end of an infomercial, their legal thing going...
No.
No.
No?
No.
It was her doing an ad for some anti-abortion group.
Yeah, I...
And it was just...
It was...
You could tell she was probably into it because her brain is fucking cooked, but...
Yeah.
Just hearing her push for these people was something that I never want to hear again.
Out of a 30-minute show, five minutes of it was that ad copy.
The ad which also included them playing, like...
Again, stories from people that were like, I was going to abort my baby, but then I didn't because these people gave me this money.
Okay.
I will not play that on this show.
I will not do that.
But it exists in the world.
I saw a lady today on Malak and she had Like, a big fucking button that said, I do not support abortions.
And then underneath it said, abortions should be illegal.
And I'm just sitting there, walked faster, and I had to take a second.
I did a lap, because she was going slowly, so I went around the block and walked past her a second time and took my time to read it, and I was just like...
Oh, you're walking through the most bougie part of town.
It's intentional.
She was probably, I wouldn't be surprised if she had a recorder running like a hidden camera or something.
Yeah.
Just to catch, you know, lib reactions.
Yeah.
These people are reprehensible.
So, we're going to finish off today.
Yep.
With a soda review that we're going to do live.
Yep.
On air.
Get the opener, please.
Yeah, let me find...
There it is.
The turtle.
You got the glasses?
Glasses are on your side.
Oh, God.
Why?
There they are.
I don't have to like that they're there.
I know.
Yeah, you hold that.
Okay.
So, today's bottle is also from W.T. Heck, as were the last three.
This one is bacon.
I don't know what to expect since we had the one that was terribly dead on, that was the dill pickle.
Then we had the one that was a dud, that was the blue cheese dressing.
Then we had the spaghetti, which was mid.
Yeah, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great either.
It was mid.
This...
Okay, so I'm sniffing the bottle, right?
I just uncorked it.
Yep.
Uncapped it, whatever.
Decapped it.
I'm sniffing it, and I'm getting sugar and I'm getting bacon out of this.
Yes, give it a smell.
Yeah, I'm getting kind of a smokiness.
Like a sugary, smoky bacon.
Yeah, yeah.
They might have done this one right.
Let's find out.
Okay, the initial pour.
Why does it look like a fucking health potion?
Well, there's almost no fizz.
I hope it didn't go flat.
It may have.
Yeah, because we got this almost a year ago.
Yeah, but still, soda is supposed to just last a while.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, I've kept unnamed brand of cola at the foot of my bed.
You can say.
It's Coca-Cola.
Can I?
Yeah.
We're not shilling for them.
Oh, fair enough, fair enough.
Yeah, no.
I buy like a 24-pack case of Mexican Coca-Cola that I keep at the end of my bed because I'm the only one that drinks it.
Oh, yo, I had that AI Coca-Cola recently.
AI Coca-Cola?
Why?
3000?
I've not.
I'm unfamiliar.
They made it...
With artificial intelligence.
It says on the thing, co-created with artificial intelligence.
It tastes like nothing.
And tastes like everything.
It's weird.
I'll probably buy another one before it's out of stores.
I don't hate it.
I drank the bottle.
So, essentially, did they, like, chat GTP, just fucking write a recipe?
Probably.
Here's the thing, though, is that...
Like I said, it tastes like nothing and it tastes like everything in that, like, it's not bad.
Yeah.
You know, like, I mean, if you put a label on it, I'd be like, sure, it probably tastes like that.
But it's like there are other ones where it's like, space.
Okay, maybe, I don't know.
Maybe space tastes like that.
I don't fucking know.
Nobody can really taste space because if you remove your fucking helmet, your head's gonna pop.
Yeah, something like that.
Well, you're gonna freeze.
Oh, right, yeah, you freeze first.
The lack of pressure, your head might pop, so...
You know what?
I don't want to find out.
That's a science fact that they're unsure about.
I can think about it, but I don't want to find out.
I probably shouldn't say this on air.
What?
It's just...
Okay, so death row inmates are already sentenced for their crime, and they will die because they're on death row, right?
Maybe.
Okay.
A lot get let go due to evidence that exonerates them.
Okay, well, for the ones that aren't going to be exonerated, maybe, just maybe, we should use them for slight scientific purposes.
Like, exposure to space.
Well, I can agree with that in the case of, say, like a mass rapist who doesn't give a shit and is up front about everything that he or she may have done.
Yeah, I'm referring to like the most vile people using them for science.
I'm not meaning like somebody that could possibly be innocent that's been proven.
Well, I understand that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I also see where this makes me sound like a terrible person.
Yeah.
A little bit.
Just a little bit.
Why I said I probably shouldn't say this on air.
Well, a little bit, but...
Yeah.
Yeah, no, like...
I don't know.
The death penalty is a touchy subject, but...
Yeah.
Ugh.
Let's try this other touchy subject.
Oh, hang on.
It is bubbly.
If you look at the bottom of the glass.
Yeah, it's got little bubbles.
I see a little bit.
It might be because it's been sitting in the AC blow area.
I don't know.
The way I have my drawer set over there, the AC blows across my floor completely.
I mean, maybe, but I don't know.
Yeah, let's just get into this.
Yeah, let's just try it out.
Three, two, one, go.
Four, two, one, go.
It tastes like bacon with too much maple syrup on it.
You know what it tastes like to me?
Yeah, I mean, you've got a point.
Maybe not maple syrup.
No, no.
Like that fake log cabin shit.
Yeah, the shit that you like...
It tastes like breakfast bacon.
Yeah, like the shit that you get at IHOP or some shit.
Yeah, where you've poured too much syrup on top of it and you've mixed it in with pancakes.
Like they've already cooked it with some brown sugar in the mix and then you just were like, okay, I'm going to add this maple syrup and then you're like, oh, this is too sweet for breakfast.
Yeah, oh no, I've done fucked it up but I have to eat it now.
Yeah.
Because I can't just be like, hey, I fucked my plate up.
Can you bring me fresh shit so that I can fuck that up?
Yeah.
God, I feel like the only time that I would ever feel acceptable about that is if I go, hey, I done fucked up the meal on accident.
I will pay for a whole nother second meal if your chef will send out another one for me, please.
I will pay for more food if you will take away this monster that I've created.
If one of your dining staff wants to brave it, go ahead.
Right.
Yeah, no, like, I don't hate it, but I'm not going to finish the glass.
No.
No.
I mean, the spaghetti was, like...
I was, you know, I had higher hopes for the spaghetti one.
I had higher hopes for the bacon one, too, honestly.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to finish that one either.
Yeah.
So, do you have anything to add to this before we cut out?
Um...
I know I had something.
It's not coming to mind.
Excuse me.
So yeah, that's the secret of this one is that right-wing people failing at entertainment Like,
I wish there was some other path for these people to go down.
Because, unfortunately, a birth of a nation did lead to renewed interest in the Klan.
Yeah.
And what came out of that, though, was the Klan became basically a fucking multi-level marketing scheme.
Yeah.
Whereby Klansmen basically rent their robes.
Which I still...
They can be repossessed.
I still just...
Can you imagine some Klansman show up at your door like, hey, are you going to make that payment?
Because if you don't, we got to take them ropes back, Jimmy.
You know, and then like...
The Klan's been getting his robes repoed, probably knows who the guys are that are coming by to do it.
Because there's so few of them these days.
It's like, come on, Billy.
You know that my wife's been taking all my money since she divorced me.
You know I can't afford it.
Please, come on.
Tell the Grand Dragon I have his money next week.
Come on.
Please don't do this to me.
Johnny, come on, I helped raise you.
Don't help your father take my robes, please.
How was I to know it was a bot on clansmeat.com?
That picture looked real and you all know it.
I mean, come on.
Like, oh my god.
What I think is more surprising is that...
I think it's a musician.
It might be a black reverend.
One of these guys has famously gone and made friends with four different Grand Dragons.
And upon talking with him and befriending him and shit, within a period of two to five years, every single one of them has dropped out of the title.
Because they couldn't justify their hate anymore.
Yeah.
I really feel like if you just want to change a Klansman mind, maybe take him to a Somalian barbecue.
Right.
Like blindfold him, tell him you're taking him to a secret Klan meet, and then just take off the blindfold while he's surrounded by blind people.
And just be like, here's some food, shut your yap, put the food in your yap, then talk.
Right.
Eat this food and tell me you hate these people then.
Right.
God.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Man.
Oh my god.
That does remind me, though, of one comedian talking about how his white friend accidentally ended up at a Klan meet.
Oh yeah, you told me about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, they just...
These people have so many things that they just need to fix.
But yeah, this fucking...
Like I said, I got to the part where I was like...
I have to go read about this movie now.
God damn it, Candace.
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