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| All right, so to begin with, the first question, and there are several questions, obviously of different kinds, about what appears to be the ratification both by Hamas and by Israel of the ceasefire plan that was put together by Donald Trump, | |
| Steve Whitkop, and Jared Kushner for the United States, in partnership with many Arab countries, including the close allies of Donald Trump in the Gulf state tyrannies like Saudi Arabia and the Emirates and Qadar, but also Jordan and Egypt and Turkey. | |
| And then ultimately was accepted by Hamas, Israel's role in the background with the United States was making sure they got as much as they possibly could from the deal. | |
| But it's very hard to try and create a judgment that overrides the judgment of the actual people who have been suffering the most over the last two years, which of course are the people of Gaza. | |
| And if they're out in the streets celebrating for understandable reasons, that there's yet another possibility that the absolute nightmare, the atrocity, the genocide that has been imposed on them, while much of the world stood by and watched, and while our part of the world, the United States and the West, overtly and affirmatively supported it with money, paid for it if you're the United States, armed it, diplomatically protected it, is of course very easy to understand their ecstasy. | |
| And while they're celebrating, it's very hard to say, oh no, their eruption of happiness should be tempered by a lot of concerns because you don't want to replace your own judgment for theirs about these events. | |
| After all, it's their lives and their society that has been devastated. | |
| And of course, you're happy for them if it really results in an end. | |
| But that's the big question is if this is really gonna result in an end to their misery and suffering, particularly the most acute kind that they've faced. | |
| And there were a lot of questions along these lines. | |
| So here are a couple questions, just very representative of the many that we got on this question. | |
| First is from Kat Rika, and they ask, quote, this is this new Israel-Gaza ceasefire plan just the beginning of the implementation of the Trump Blair Kushner Gaza Lago Plan. | |
| And of course, that's referenced to Donald Trump's vision that Jared Kushner actually expressed years earlier that Gaza would make excellent uh beachfront property, that they could just bulldoze the whole thing and build big Trump towers and resorts. | |
| It basically turned it like into a Dubai, but a Dubai that much of the West owns, the Trump family owns, associates, in partnership with the very wealthy Persian uh Gulf dictators that have massive amounts of money and are trying to expand it all sorts of ways. | |
| And then Trump, until as recently as December and January and February, was reaffirming that that should be the vision of Gaza, is just kind of build bulldozing everything that's there and replacing it with these glitzy casinos and hotels, and as he said, turning it into one of these kind of hot spots in the Middle East that the very, very wealthy uh people in the West love to go and use as a playground. | |
| And it was extremely difficult to put it mildly, seeing that happening because that would involve the forcible displacement of two million people who have not only generations worth of presence in that land, but going back thousands of years, there's religious connections, | |
| extremely felt cultural proximities to that land, and they weren't gonna just give it up because they were given a check for 10,000 and invitation to go live in the West Bank or Jordan or Egypt, whose governments would not have accepted them anyway because they don't want to participate in the ethnic cleaning. | |
| So that was always kind of a pipe dream, but that was, I think, a very disturbing and destructive plan that Trump articulated because it was interpreted by Vantya, who rightfully so, as a green light to just flatten all of Gaza and take it over, with kind of images of Trump golf courses dancing in Trump's head. | |
| So that's a concern that is this really just kind of a ruse still on the way to getting to this point. | |
| Is it just an attempt to give the Israelis kind of a breather so that world pressure that has really been intensifying and turning against Israel, public opinion turning against Israel, can just have some time to be distracted and refocused on other things, feeding them a sort of ruse of a peace plan, convincing them that this is actually the end, when in fact nothing Of the sort is true. | |
| I say that not as an argument, but as a question that a lot of people have, and I think rightfully have, given not just past history of how Israel has treated and then violated ceasefires, but also the last time there was a ceasefire, the one that Steve Woodkoff and Donald Trump engineered the day before that he took office and what happened there. | |
| So I'm gonna get into that a little bit. | |
| But there's also the second question, this is from Hope's dreams, very optimistic sounding name. | |
| Uh, and it's this. | |
| Glenn, is Trump going to let Bibi go crazy once the hostages are back? | |
| I saw some people saying this is obviously what's going to happen. | |
| So is it that obvious? | |
| All right, so let's start with this. | |
| As I said, you can go back with Israel and Palestine always decades, along on decades, and find all sorts of historical analogies and clues as to what the two sides might do to how a certain conflict or attempted resolution of the conflict is likely to play out given the complexities of their domestic politics and the different factions inside each who believe in different things. | |
| But I think by far the most relevant evidence of what is likely to happen with this ceasefire, is what happened with the prior ceasefire that was also engineered by Donald Trump and Steve Whitkop. | |
| This one also had the added influence of Jared Kushner. | |
| Make of that what you will. | |
| But this was also a peace treaty spearheaded by Donald Trump. | |
| Although this time it was a much more elaborate effort. | |
| The last one was kind of forcing the Israelis to accept it because Trump wanted quiet during his inauguration. | |
| He wanted to come into his presidency, being able to focus on other things and just keep Israel and Gaza quiet for a while. | |
| But that too, that peace deal, that that ceasefire deal, which was not entirely dissimilar to the one that we have now, was also presented as a huge foreign policy achievement for Donald Trump. | |
| That Joe Biden presided over that destruction of Gaza for a year and a half and made zero progress in bringing it to an end or even getting a meaningful substantive ceasefire. | |
| In fact, the Israelis often celebrated the fact that Biden was president because they said he put no pressure on them whatsoever. | |
| And then Trump, before he's even in office, it's announced the day before he's inaugurated, announces what is a real ceasefire agreement. | |
| That was when there were all those stories about Steve Whitkoff kind of bullying and speaking very abrasively to the Israelis, telling him that he didn't care that Netanyahu wasn't working on the Sabbath, that he's going to show up for a meeting. | |
| Those kind of stories that were leaked, whether true or designed to create an impression, we'll likely never know. | |
| But that too led to a lot of people to be extremely hopeful that finally these atrocities were coming to an end because of a peace deal, a ceasefire deal. | |
| And I remember very well, although my skepticism was very high, I watched huge numbers of people in Gaza pour out into the streets and celebrate, as any human beings would understand that we do, because they thought that their year-long, year, | |
| months-long horror show, their terror of living every day with Israeli jets and every night flying over their tents, bombing indiscriminately, being shelled and massacred by the IDF, all the horrors that we documented for so long had finally come to an end. | |
| And maybe they were allowing their hopes to subordinate their rational perceptions of what was likely to happen. | |
| But I can even understand even if they did think it was temporary, why they were so relieved and happy to have a temporary halt to this barrage of death and violence and atrocity surrounding them. | |
| And I think that's what you're seeing now. | |
| I doubt that people in Gaza trust Netanyahu or Trump or believe that there's some guarantee that the Israelis are going to stop all of their manipulation and bombing and harming of Gazans. | |
| They haven't stopped for 70 years. | |
| Why would they suddenly stop now? | |
| But you can understand their happiness. | |
| It is a real ceasefire. | |
| There likely will be a substantial amount of time at least where Israel is no longer bombing and attacking Gaza. | |
| And so there is a component of it that is genuinely real, at least the part that is a ceasefire, some sort of ceasefire. | |
| And that's what happened back in 2018 in January of 2025 before Trump was inaugurated, and then afterwards as well. | |
| A lot of people were hoping and thought that that was going to be a real ceasefire. | |
| And you may recall that that ceasefire, like the one that we have now, was a multi-stage ceasefire, wherein the first stage, the uh Gazans would release Israelis who are being held in Gaza, a certain number that they agreed to in exchange for Palestinians who are being held in dungeons, many of them without charges of any kind. | |
| And there would be something like 800 of those released and 30 uh Israelis released from Gaza. | |
| And then after that, there was supposed to be a withdrawal of Israeli troops back to their borders, or at least from substantial amounts of Gaza, and a massive and immediate opening up of the flow of humanitarian aid, and Israel was denying that they were blockading it, but then they agreed to allow it in, kind of contradicting that denial. | |
| And stage one happened. | |
| There was some exchange of hostages on both sides. | |
| And then after that, it went nowhere. | |
| It never got to stage two. | |
| Instead, Israel began resuming its bombing of Gaza, even worse than it had been doing so before, before that ceasefire was entered into, and anybody paying attention would have known that that was coming. | |
| And the reason was was that when this ceasefire deal was announced back in January, which again is somewhat different than the one we have now, but similar in design and the multi-stages on which it depends. | |
| Back then, Netanyahu was openly boasting in Hebrew in Israel that the whole thing was a joke, that they had no intention of ever proceeding beyond stage one, where they got the hostages back, and he kept assuring the right-wing factions of his government who were infuriated at the idea that there might be an end to the war, and even uh sections of the media who are very hard line uh and hawkish on this war. | |
| No, don't worry, this is a fake deal. | |
| We're never gonna agree to part uh section two. | |
| We're gonna claim that Hamas violated it, and then we're just go gonna go back to bombing them. | |
| And that's exactly what happened. | |
| And a lot of people were optimistic about it and then realized actually it seems like the whole thing was kind of deceitful. | |
| Here from the BBC, January 18th. | |
| This is basically right as the deal was being announced. | |
| Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his country is ready to resume the war against Hamas should talks fall fail for a second phase of the ceasefire. | |
| And a televised speech just hours before the Gaza ceasefire was due to start on Sunday, Netanyahu stressed that the ceasefire was quote, temporary, and Israel reserved the right to resume strikes in Gaza, and that that intention had the backing of U.S. President-elect Donald Trump to do so. | |
| So right at the start, this vaunted deal, and I praise Trump and Witkoff for engineering this deal because again, I saw the Palestinians obviously wanted that, and I thought it was a good thing. | |
| But I immediately saw Netanyahu saying not only is it basically optional if Israel complies that once they get their hostages back, they're very likely to start rebombing Gaza as if nothing had happened, but that they fully had the option to bomb it, | |
| uh rebomb Gaza, re-enter Gaza whenever they wanted, and according to Netanyahu, Trump himself was sort of whispering to him look, we need this deal done, but if you really want to start bombing again, we'll never oppose you and we'll never uh impede you or criticize you for doing so. | |
| And of course, that's exactly what happened. | |
| Here from the times of Israel, this is January 28th, so this is about 10 days after Trump and Whitkopf announced the deal that they had engineered between Hamas and Israel. | |
| Quote, Netanyahu says that he has received assurances from Trump that the U.S. will back Israel in resuming the war if Hamas violates the terms of the ceasefire or stops negotiating in good faith regarding the terms of the second phase. | |
| Finance Minister Bizal Smotrich has suggested the premier has given him an assurance to resume fighting that isn't conditioned on whether Hamas violates the deal. | |
| In other words, of course, the argument was look, we just sign this very big multi-stage ceasefire that's being depicted as a finally an end to the war. | |
| And then, of course, Nanya's gonna say, obviously, if Hamas doesn't follow through with its obligations, we reserve the right to then start bombing Hamas to start re-entering Hamas as if nothing had happened. | |
| And of course, Israel was gonna always say that Hamas failed to comply with its obligations. | |
| And in case that implicit uh threat wasn't enough, Netanyahu made it explicit. | |
| He told Smotrich and Ben Gavir and others in the Israeli press that it doesn't matter what Hamas does, even if Hamas fought uh complies fully with the subsequent stages of that ceasefire, that Israel's intention and plan is to get the hostages back and then immediately restart the war. | |
| And that's and that's precisely what they did. | |
| Yeah, my tie's a little disorderly. | |
| I think Friday night, I never believed in casual Friday. | |
| When I was a lawyer, I hated how like lawyers would be all, you know, like pent up with their suits and ties all week, and then suddenly because they were told to, started wearing like equally uncomfortable, not more so khakis and these like blue Oxford shirts buttoned up to the top, and that was supposed to be casual. | |
| So I decided to go with the Friday bye by unbutton the button. | |
| But we'll fix that a little bit. | |
| But in any event, that's what happened. | |
| So you look at this and you say, why wouldn't the same thing happen now? | |
| There's all the same, it's all the same framework. | |
| The first stage is the exchange of hostages, Israel's gonna get back all the hostages, living and dead, and the Gazans are gonna get back all of their hostages, which is what those people are who are in these dungeons with no charges. | |
| Some of these people were charged and convicted of crimes in Israeli courts, obviously, those are not models of due process for Palestinians, but others, in fact, thousands of them, are being tortured or being abused or being deprived of basic human human rights, even though they've been charged with no crime, that they're in administrative detention is what Israel calls it. | |
| Meaning they just grab whoever they want off the street, put them into these horrific dungeons. | |
| Many of them stay there, they come out very malnourished, very sick. | |
| Some of them actually die. | |
| So those are hostages too. | |
| So that part is likely to actually move forward. | |
| But the question is, is the same plan in Israel in effect? | |
| And does it have Trump's backing that at some point the plan is for Israel to declare that Hamas has violated the subsequent obligations and therefore restart the war and finish what Israel started and achieve the goal that Israeli officials, including Netanyahu, who have been very open, is their real goal, which is taking Gaza for itself, cleansing, clearing out the people who are there. | |
| Essentially that Trump vision or some alternative vision that's even darker, where they ethnically cleanse all of Gaza. | |
| And anyone who claims that they're certain that this time Israel's going to adhere to the deal, this time there's more pressure because it involves all these other Arab countries in the region. | |
| Israel has shown that they don't care about world opinion, they don't care about international, they don't care about anything, which is why we're we're where we are where we are. | |
| And every time people assume no, that's a line that Netanyahu can't cross or won't cross, he proves everybody wrong and he just does it and knows there won't be any consequences, particularly as long as he has Donald Trump and the Trump movement and the American right on his side, which is in charge of Congress and in charge of the executive. | |
| And the question also is this time, is that something that Trump is going to be okay with? | |
| And you might say, look, Trump's really invested in the ceasefire, he sees this as part of his legacy as part of his campaign to justify what he thinks should be the Nobel Prize for Peace that he won. | |
| And the Nobel Prize for Peace was announced today, Trump didn't win. | |
| We're gonna get to that in uh in the in in the in a second. | |
| And Trump was angry about it, but in reality, all the things he thinks he should win for would be in would be eligible for next year's award. | |
| And so you might say, no, Trump really wants the Nobel Peace Prize, he really wants to go out in history as the president that brought peace to the Middle East. | |
| But you have to assume that that means that if Netanyahu and the Israelis and all of their extremely powerful and influential supporters of the United States are pressuring Trump to allow the continuation of the war by concocting some excuse about Hamas or even by arguing that Hamas really did violate it, you'd have to believe that Trump is ready to defy them and say, no, we don't care. | |
| Even if you think it's in your vital security interest, we are not going to allow you to go back to war in Gaza. | |
| And I haven't seen Trump be willing to confront Netanyahu or Israel in anywhere near with anywhere near that level of resolute resolution that would be necessary for that to happen. | |
| So I'm not claiming this war is gonna restart. | |
| I'm just saying there's a very good chance that it will. | |
| Obviously, I hope that it doesn't for the sake of the Palestinian people, and that they have some chance to rebuild Some someone's of a society and carry on with some remnant of a normal life. | |
| But I don't want my I want to keep my hopes separate from my rational expectations and point out that there's every good reason to think that this is a ruse or something that's going to unravel. | |
| And it's not just because of what happened in the past, it's because of what key Israeli officials are saying right now. | |
| Here is Emmett Sigal, who, according to Harris today, is Trump's favorite pundit. | |
| And he's actually a very conniving, kind of shrewd, smart uh Trump uh uh Netanyahu supporter, he's a hardcore supporter of expanding this war, he wants to see it carried through. | |
| And he was on Israeli, Israel's channel uh 12, which is a very mainstream, but pro-war, pro Netanyahu anti-Palestinian network. | |
| And here's what he had to say when asked about the next stages of the ceasefire. | |
| The translation, he's speaking in Hebrew, obviously. | |
| Obviously, all right. | |
| So this is what he says. | |
| Let's go. | |
| There's no phase one that that's clear for everybody, right? | |
| Phase two might happen someday. | |
| But it's unrelated to what has just been signed. | |
| The deal signed now is a hostage release deal. | |
| It doesn't imply anything about the future theoretically. | |
| Fantasies could come true, Emiratis and allies dismantling tunnels and international body formed, Tony Blair governing Gaza. | |
| All this could happen in theory, but it's not part of the current tactical negotiations. | |
| What we have now is a hostage deal. | |
| There's a ceasefire while talks continue in good faith. | |
| There's the question of who gets who decides. | |
| I need to say that. | |
| Under Trump, Israel has previously said talks aren't genuine or productive. | |
| And then resumed fighting. | |
| At the end of the day, I don't think we'll see the IDF tanks rushing back into Gaza. | |
| Like what happened when the last two ceasefire ended. | |
| But the big question is are we moving toward the Lebanese model Israel mentioned? | |
| In other words, the IDF stays beyond the international borders and strikes from the air when it detects buildups or attempts to Israel that are obvious. | |
| We're talking about strengthening efforts like digging more tunnels or building more arms-producing factories. | |
| This is what Israel is aiming for. | |
| The reasonable assumption in Israel is that President Donald Trump will approve it. | |
| That's one point. | |
| The IDF will withdraw to the 53% line. | |
| It was 57 initially, then drop to 53% when the hostages will be free. | |
| The talks after that are based on the principle of withdrawal for demilitarization and dismantling, because we all assume that Hamas won't disarm willingly. | |
| And the Emiratis and other international forces won't achieve this quickly. | |
| Regarding the hostages, you all admit that when I hear Israel says making peace with enemies, I smell Oslamanir and the implications it carries. | |
| This isn't peace, and these are bitter enemies. | |
| Still on their knees. | |
| So he's saying pretty much as outright as possible. | |
| Like, look, I guess I can imagine a world, a very theoretical world where the conditions for our agreeing to the ceasefire being extended are somehow met. | |
| Because our war aims are exactly the same. | |
| Hamas has to disarm, not be part of the governance of Gaza, and we don't think that's going to happen. | |
| Hamas will never do that voluntarily. | |
| They have to be forced to do that. | |
| And he said, I guess there's a way short of Israel restarting the war to force Hamas to do that, namely the Emiratis come in and magically transform Gaza into some well-governed place, meaning governed under the dictates of Israel and at the whims of Netanyahu. | |
| Or maybe Tony Blair can kind of be this sort of old-fashioned colonial viceroy where he comes in and just starts governing and presiding over Gaza as its leader with some you know very kind of obsequious Palestinian aids, and that'll take care of the problem. | |
| But he's saying we don't believe any of that's gonna happen. | |
| Certainly not in the near future. | |
| And so what he's saying is, and again, this is according to Harris today, Netanyahu's favorite uh media pundit, the person who's very influential in the circles that influence Bolsonaro's uh politics. | |
| And he's being very open about the fact that look, it's extremely likely that we're gonna have to keep bombing Gaza because this doesn't achieve our goals. | |
| All it really is is a deal for a hostages, hostage exchange. | |
| And while there's negotiations to try and make the rest of it concrete to actually end the war in some way that we accept, it's unlikely that's really gonna happen. | |
| And he's saying we're probably gonna go back to the war. | |
| And it and he's saying also that Donald Trump will support the restart of that war in the event Israel decides for itself that it wants to, and that is language extremely similar to what from the start the Israelis said about the last peace deal in January, which not only led to a restarting of the war in Gaza, but a significant escalation of it. | |
| And so, of course, as hopeful as I am that this really is an end to the war, that US and international media can come in and document what I'm certain are the unknown depths and severity of the real atrocities of how many people are buried under rubble, of the kind of destruction to civilian infrastructure that the world really isn't convinced yet happened, although I hope all that happens. | |
| I believe the Israelis when they're saying, don't get your hopes up that this war is over. | |
| Here's the times of Israel, December 10th, 2024, and it reported on this quote the UN slams violation of 1974 Syria disengagement deal as Israel acts in the buffer zone. | |
| This is a supposed peace deal that Israel signed in 1974 to remove themselves to disengage from Gaza, and they overtly violated it at the end of 2024 when they stole Syrian land, quote, U.S. defends Israeli decision to quote fill the vacuum after Syrian soldiers fled posts along the border, but stresses the measures must be temporary. | |
| Iran condemns the flagrant violation. | |
| So that was a deal just out in the open. | |
| Israel decided, yeah, we're not going to stick to this deal any longer. | |
| We're going to take this land, create a security buffer that even though it belongs to Syria, we're not going to occupy. | |
| The US supported it, said it'll be temporary, probably as temporary as the Patriot Act. | |
| They still are there. | |
| Just giving you an indication of how Israel and often the United States looks at the kind of deals they convince the world they've actually struck to end hostilities. | |
| Now, when people like Ahmad Segal and others talk about the Lebanon model, here's what they mean from AP, this is October 1st, just last week. | |
| Israel has killed more than a hundred civilians in the in Lebanon since the ceasefire, the UN says. | |
| Remember when Israel was bombing Lebanon and they finally entered it to a ceasefire deal. | |
| In the weeks after that ceasefire deal, Israel was just bombing Lebanon whenever they wanted. | |
| That's what Israel's interpretation of a ceasefire deal is. | |
| Maybe won't bomb as much for a while, but we're still gonna bomb when we want. | |
| And they've killed a hundred civilians even after the ceasefire deal was in effect. | |
| Now, these there were there was a quick uh ceasefire in the early part of the war that allowed the two sides to exchange hostages. | |
| And here's what happened. | |
| This is the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, November 30th, 2023, quote, while the humanitarian pause that started on the 24th of November has largely held, sporadic incidents have been reported on November 29th, at least uh at about 1,800 hours, Israeli troops reportedly opened fire at Palestinians in northern Gaza City, killing two of them, the circumstances remain unclear. | |
| On November 30th, additional shooting incidents reported in Gaza City, as well as shelling by the Israeli Navy toward the Gaza shore in the south, none of which resulted in casualties. | |
| So you can just see how Israel treats actual ceasefires even once they're in effect. | |
| Once they declare them no longer in effect, everything becomes fair game. | |
| And then this is going back all the way to 2014, which is really the last major, major Israeli bombing camp campaign of Gaza. | |
| Remember, Israel bombs Gaza every single year, well before 2023. | |
| In fact, Israel bombed Gaza all throughout 2023, before October 7th. | |
| Despite claims that, oh, there was so much peace and stability and love in the region, and out of nowhere, Hamas just flew into Israel with hang gliders and ruined it all by starting a war. | |
| Israel was bombing the West Bank and Gaza throughout 2023, going all the way out to 2024. | |
| You can see here that this is documented uh visualizing Palestine, all the deaths that took place, even while there were supposed ceasefires in place throughout all these years. | |
| And it's a chart that's a little bit detailed, but the point of it is there were 191 documented Israeli violations of ceasefires, 75 uh Palestinian violations, and given how much more intense and uncontrollable and enduring the hatred between the two sides are for obvious reasons. | |
| Any ceasefire is inherently fragile, but one that essentially is being depicted, at least by Netanyahu and his allies, as deliberately temporary, as one that just kind of lets them restart the war whenever they want, is something that should give real hope to nobody. | |
| It can really be false hope. | |
| Again, I hope that's wrong. | |
| I hope the best case scenario ensues. | |
| Maybe Trump is serious about preserving this for his legacy and will force the Israelis to maintain that and to not restart the war, which he has every ability to do if he wants to. | |
| But the history of the region, the history of Israel, the history of these ceasefires, and the history of Trump's willingness to confront the Israelis, which is basically zero, don't give, frankly, a lot of hope that this really will bring about the end to this horror show. | |
| A lot of the world wants to feel like it's over. | |
| They may decide to move on. | |
| Israel may bomb just enough so that it seems kind of isolated. | |
| And then as the world focuses on other things starts escalating it all over again. | |
| I don't know what form it's going to take. | |
| I understand why the Palestinians are rejoicing. | |
| I would be too. | |
| But for those of us who who have a distance from it and whose job it is to figure out whether this is real, extreme amounts of skepticism are required for all sorts of reasons. | |
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| All right, it's always an extremely exciting day, like the Academy Awards or the Pulitzers or the great awards that our society and our world gives out to people of high accomplishment. | |
| Because today was the day that the Nobel Peace Prize was announced. | |
| I was at difficulty sleeping throughout the week. | |
| I actually had to use a lot of CBD to try and calm myself down into sleep, knowing that this big day was coming. | |
| And the Nobel Peace Prize was announced this morning by the Nobel Committee based out of Norway. | |
| And the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, which Is designed to recognize and celebrate the efforts of leaders to avert war and violence and conflict and instead usher in peace is a woman named Maria Karina Machado, who is the leader of the opposition of Venezuela. | |
| Now, as a lot of you know, Venezuela is very much on the radar of the United States. | |
| It has always been for quite a long time, because in our backyard, what the Monroe Doctrine considers to be our area of influence. | |
| Hugo Chavez, who was the leader that replaced pro-American pro-oligarchical leaders because he was elected by the people of Venezuela, among whom he was quite popular, not all of them, obviously, but a significant portion, especially the poorer people, the workers, was extremely defiant to the United States, particularly insistent that Venezuela's massive oil supply be used at the direction of the Venezuelan government for the interest of the Venezuelan people and not for the United States. | |
| And as a result, Venezuela has been under suffocating sanctions, like Cuba has been for many, many years now, cutting off trade, preventing all kinds of ability to expand their economy, to do business dealings with American companies and the like, because they believe that Venezuela doesn't do America's bidding when it comes to opening up their markets and their resources to the ability of American companies to control and exploit what they want to do there. | |
| They think they become too close to China. | |
| So basically they've been punished for their defiance. | |
| And so you have Hugo Chavez, who uh whose legacy was cut short because he died of cancer, and his successor, Nicolas Madura, who has now been in power many, many years. | |
| There's no question it's an they have authoritarian aspects to their country, no doubt about that, just like Cuba does. | |
| And I don't want to excuse it at all because I don't, but when you have the world's uh history's most powerful military and most powerful economy and strongest country, threatening you constantly with regime change, suffocating your economy, any country is gonna have to reduce basic freedoms because you're being threatened by external forces. | |
| That's what the United States has always done when it feels threatened by external forces after during World War II, after 9-11. | |
| It's doing it now in the wake of perceptions of internal threats. | |
| And that's part of why Venezuela is authoritarian, but also the system itself is authoritarian. | |
| There's no denying that. | |
| But they're not any worse, and I would suggest not even close to being worse, and all sorts of extremely close U.S. allies, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Jordan and the Emirates and Qatar, to say nothing of all the governments we've engineered regime change in order to impose, including in that region. | |
| So if you live in the region as I have and do, nobody takes seriously the notion that the United States government is offended by tyranny or dictatorship. | |
| That's not why we're in great Venezuela. | |
| That's not why we're interested in Venezuela. | |
| That's not why the United States is openly under Marco Rubio engineering what has long been one of his dreams, what the people he represents in Florida are hoping to do, many of them come from Venezuela, have fled Venezuela, which is engineer regime change in Venezuela, the way the United States has long wanted to do in Cuba. | |
| And now they're bombing boats off the coast of Venezuela with the obvious pretext of convincing you it's necessary to prevent drugs from coming to the United States, and calling Maduro narco-terrorist to justify using the war on terror framework and the war on drug framework, | |
| but it's clearly intended to be an imminent military-style attempt to change the government of Venezuela, the kind of regime change wars that Trump and many people close to him swore were destroying America and would never do again. | |
| Seems like it's imminent in Venezuela. | |
| And we've been wanting to do regime change there forever under Democrats and Republicans, for whatever reason, they decided that Juan Guaido was the real president of Venezuela. | |
| Our media called him president of Venezuela when he came to the United States and parts of Europe he was given official state treatments. | |
| The president, the real president of Venezuela, I remember when Trump in his first term, he was at uh President Trump's first State of the Union dress, and sitting behind Trump, of course, was his vice president Mike Pence and also the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. | |
| And when Trump said, and we have with us the true and legitimate president of Venezuela, Juan Guaido, he stood up, both parties stood up. | |
| Nancy Pelosi jumped up in a standing ovation faster than I've ever seen her move. | |
| And it was a very bipartisan idea that we pick the government of Venezuela. | |
| That it's for us to not only choose, but then to impose our will there. | |
| And there was an attempt with John Bolton and others in the first Trump term to actually overthrow Maduro using our traditional means of covert operations and military force. | |
| And Trump got frustrated when John Bolton with John Bolton went it wasn't nearly as easy as Bolton assured him it would be, and that's part of what led to their separation. | |
| And by the way, it seems like John Bolton is going to be arrested. | |
| You may remember there was an FBI raid on his house about a month ago, and there's reports that he is uh close to being indicted and arrested maybe within the next week. | |
| So there's always some good news uh on the horizon if you look for it hard enough. | |
| But that idea of regime change in Venezuela is something the United States has always wanted to do, and clearly the Trump administration has rapidly prioritized it. | |
| To the point that we're now bombing there, even though Congress hasn't authorized it, we're threatening overtly to bomb inside Venezuela. | |
| And again, the pretext is that that's where drugs come from that kill our communities, when in reality, as we've shown you, government reports acknowledge that a tiny percentage of the drugs that enter the United States actually come from Venezuela. | |
| If you actually wanted to stem the tide of drugs entering the United States, one of the most wasteful and ineffective things you could do is have some kind of quasi-war, or if not quasi, an outright war with Venezuela to change the government. | |
| That's one of the least likely ways to stem the tide of drugs entering the United States. | |
| That's an obvious pretext. | |
| There's a lot of other reasons why the United States wants to change the government of Venezuela. | |
| And so here you have the Nobel Peace Prize Committee deciding right as the United States and other countries want to engineer regime change, they're being very open about that. | |
| They want to elevate the woman who is the face of the opposition to the government that we want to uh overthrow as some sort of world historic uh figure of peace and humanitarianism. | |
| And so Maria Karina Machado is the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2025. | |
| And I have to say, a lot of people dislike Maduro, think he's a dictator, think he's a miserated the Venezuelan population. | |
| You can think that all you want. | |
| Like I said, there's a lot of dictators in the world, many that the United States loves. | |
| And you can even think she's a brave dissident. | |
| And I would actually say there's there's been bravery on her part. | |
| But it's also worth remembering that she is hardly an organic force inside Venezuela. | |
| She's somebody who the United States, just like they did with Languido, has spent many, many millions of dollars pouring into NGOs in in Venezuela to prop her up to fund and fuel anti-Maduro agitations and protests, like we've done in so many countries, including Russia and many others. | |
| We're very involved in that. | |
| And she is very much tied to the United States. | |
| She's somebody who the United States adores. | |
| In fact, it was Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz, Trump's national security advisor and his Secretary of State, who actually nominated her to win the Nobel Peace Prize and wrote the letters that recommended her. | |
| That's how she got onto the list of the nominees. | |
| And this is very much a U.S.-backed uh figure, and elevating her to this prize with this prize, right as the United States wants to justify the regime change in Venezuela with a regime change war or some covert or quasi-war seems to put it mildly uncoincidental. | |
| At the very least, giving her this award will fuel and strengthen whatever Washington decides to do in terms of regime uh engineering regime change in Venezuela, now that the person who would ascend to the presidency is somebody not only who's very pro-Washington, pro-West, pro-US, but also has now is now a noble laureate for peace. | |
| And like I said, you can hate Maduro as much as you want, love her as much as you want. | |
| I have a hard time answering the question like what is it that she has done in the name of peace? | |
| Where did she bring peace to a conflict? | |
| Where did she usher in peace or non-violence? | |
| How has she become has she been somebody who usually goes to people who have resolved major conflicts? | |
| Like the iconic ones are Nelson Mandela and Frederick De Klerk, who, after Mandala got out of prison, there was a big potential for civil war in South Africa, and only because of their two their leadership, where they told their respective sides were going to be peaceful and a transition of power. | |
| That's what the Nobel Peace Prize is for. | |
| People who resolve conflicts, resolve wars, avert conflict that can be militarily dangerous and bring about peace. | |
| So even if you like her, admire what she's done, I still don't understand how that relates to the Nobel Peace Prize. | |
| So we got a lot of questions on this as well today. | |
| The one from GoBird is representative. | |
| Hi, Glenn. | |
| What do you think about the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to Maria Karina Machado? | |
| It seems weird that every establishment outlet seems to be cheering on her receiving this award, especially as the Trump administration has been pushing for regime change in Venezuela. | |
| Does the Nobel Peace Prize even mean anything anymore? | |
| And it's actually interesting because if you look at the Nobel Peace Prize over the last, say 20 years, a very clear pattern emerges. | |
| And this is, I think, one of the most overlooked aspects of Western discourse and of the propaganda to which we're all subjected as Western citizens and citizens of the United States, which is we're constantly being told that civil rights abuses are the thing we fight against, or the thing that motivates us to enter into the world stage to free people from all kinds of tyranny and repression. | |
| I mean, that was ultimately, in addition to WMD, the justification for the Iraq war. | |
| We're going to free the Iraqi people from the repression of Saddam Hussein. | |
| I remember Tony Blair saying look, even if it turns out there's no weapons of mass destruction there, the worst thing that can be said about our war is that we freed Iraq from one of the worst monsters on the planet. | |
| As if the United States and its allies go to war to fight against tyrannies. | |
| United States spends at least as much time installing tyrannies and funding them and propping them up as it does combating them. | |
| Same thing in Ukraine. | |
| Oh, we're in Ukraine because Ukraine's a democracy. | |
| We love democracies. | |
| We're fighting against Putin's tyranny. | |
| And you look at who US allies have always been since the end of World War II. | |
| Supporting tyranny, supporting despotism, has been a central plank, a staple of U.S. foreign policy in post-World War II. | |
| We want to keep various areas stable, and we want to keep public opinion repressed by imposing on those countries, not the democratically eliters they selected, but the dictators who are our puppets. | |
| Iran is a great example, many of uh in Latin America, Indonesia, all over the place. | |
| And we still do that. | |
| We have an Egyptian puppet who got installed by the United States, CCC, General Sisi, because the Egyptian people finally won the right to vote, but they voted for the wrong candidate, Mohammed Mori, who the West disliked. | |
| He was overthrown with our help, and now there's a dictatorship. | |
| That's what the United States does. | |
| So we're not interested in Venezuela because we're against oppression. | |
| But what you'll see is how weaponized human rights discourse and the language of oppression is weaponized so constantly in American media. | |
| You will hear far, far, far more about the human rights abuses of America's adversaries than you will about America's allies, even if the American allies are infinitely worse in terms of their human rights abuses than the ones of the American enemies. | |
| As I said, you don't hear very much about Saudi repression. | |
| You certainly don't hear about Emirati oppression or Egyptian oppression or Qatari oppression. | |
| I'm not saying you can't find it if you look for it. | |
| We're just not bombarded with it. | |
| We're not, our emotions aren't provoked over it because we like those governments. | |
| They they are they do our bidding. | |
| We want them in place. | |
| So there's no campaign to convince the American people, oh, this is some monstrous evil dictator. | |
| Saddam Hussein was our partner. | |
| We never cared that he uh gassed his own people when he when he attacked the Kurds. | |
| That only became something that morally outraged us when it was time to demonize Saddam Hussein and we were intended to go to war. | |
| This is probably one of the things that I think is most important to realize in terms of how we're propagandized through this kind of selective human rights indignation. | |
| And as a result, we hear all the time about the evils of Maduro, even though his evils, whatever they might be, are far less than the evils of countless numbers of American allies about which we hear relatively very little. | |
| And so huge numbers of people are celebrating, yeah, Maduro's a bad guy, he does this, he does that, as though this is some kind of principle that we go around the world combating, as opposed to a pretext for the wars and interference and regime change we want to impose. | |
| And showering her with this award is part of promoting that narrative that happens to be very useful right now to Trump and other allies in terms of overthrowing the government of Venezuela. | |
| Here is the winner herself, Maria Karina Machado, knowing exactly what this award is for and wasting no time saying exactly the things she needs to say to get what she wants, which is U.S. involvement in her country in an attempt to overthrow Maduro, not by the Venezuelan people, but by the United States, so that she gets empowered. | |
| Here's what she said quote This recognition of the Nobel Peace Prize is really of the struggle of all Venezuelans and is a boost to conclude our task to conquer freedom. | |
| We are on the threshold of victory, and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve freedom and democracy. | |
| I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump for his decisive cause for our support for our cause. | |
| This is somebody who has been urging sanctions be imposed on her own country by the United States and other outside forces. | |
| Somebody who has been urging military intervention, the use of the US military in her own country to help her achieve her political goals. | |
| Again, you can call that justified, courageous, noble, but how is that represented the values of the Nobel Peace Prize? | |
| And there's now a long list of recipients of this Nobel Peace Prize who basically are dissidents, not of the governments that are allied with us and who are tyranny. | |
| They rarely, if ever win. | |
| The people who win are the dissidents to the governments we want to demonize, to the ones that don't do our bidding. | |
| So in October of 2023, as the CNN headline indicates, the Nobel Peace Prize is won by Narjis Mohammedy for the fight against the oppression of women in Iran. | |
| There was no Nobel Peace Prize winner for people fighting against the oppression of women in Saudi Arabia or parts of Africa or Qatar, even though this repression is just as bad because we don't have any interest in demonizing that government. | |
| Do you see how this is being weaponized? | |
| Human rights discourse. | |
| Do you think the United States cares about human rights in reality, as opposed to making that a pretext to advancing our goals? | |
| Here from Time Magazine, this was the prize given in 2021. | |
| Why Dmitry Muratov's Nobel Peace Prize matters for Russia's journalist. | |
| Muratov is the founder and editor-in-chief of Novoya Gazetta, one of Russia's last big newspapers, to regularly criticize President Vladimir Putin, and which has reported extensively on government occup uh corruption in the country. | |
| Quote, the newspaper's fact-based journalism and professional integrity have made it an important source of information on sensible aspects of Russian society, rarely mentioned by other media, the Nobel Committee said in a statement announcing the word Friday. | |
| I'm not saying these people aren't doing noble work. | |
| Anyone who stands up to a repressive regime in their own country is somebody who deserves to be celebrated. | |
| I'm noting instead the very transparent selectivity of the Nobel Prize and the way in which it's designed to elevate the dissidents of the governments we want to weaken and demonize for our own purposes. | |
| It's a Western award given out with a clear agenda. | |
| And the Venezuelan example probably is the most brazen yet, though there are a lot of other ones. | |
| Here's another one for the New Yorker, October 8th, 2010. | |
| Li Jiobo wins the Nobel Peace Prize. | |
| Lou, the literary critic and political essayist was awarded for the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for his long and nonviolent struggle for fundamental human rights in China. | |
| Again, nothing against these people who won, although I think it's odd to give a Nobel Peace Prize to somebody who's funded by many millions of dollars coming from the United States with for NGOs against the government inside her own country who calls for military intervention in her own country. | |
| That's not very peaceful. | |
| But nothing against these people, that's not the point. | |
| The point is there's a clear narrative benefit to how these awards are chosen and whose narrative and whose interests are being promoted. | |
| By the way, and again, it seems hard to believe, it's uncoincidental. | |
| Here's CBS news today, the day that that Nobel Peace Prize was announced. | |
| Venezuela asked the UN for an emergency meeting over U.S. military actions, saying it expects an armed attack very soon. | |
| So there are a lot of signs that the U.S. has been building up a military force to attack Venezuela, using the idea that there's anarcho-terrorist in charge of the country, which is what we used to invade Panama in 1989 under the first George Bush, killed a bunch of thousands of Panamaan civilians in that war. | |
| Same exact rationale, same exact pretext. | |
| Noriega that had a Panama used to be an ally of the United States, started to become defiant, became defiant. | |
| We wanted to remove him from power, and so we did, and this seems like a repeat of that. | |
| And this is exactly the kind of regime change war that I thought the VAGA movement was constructed to avoid. | |
| Just also, by the way, one odd aspect of Machado being held up as the exemplar and avatar of peaceful values, is she is an outspoken supporter of Israel, as most people in the Latin American right are, as most people curry in favor with the United States are. | |
| Here from El Nacional in this October 7, 2023, a major Venezuelan paper. | |
| Headline, the opposition expresses solidarity with Israel against Hamas attacks. | |
| Several representatives of the Venezuelan opposition expressed solidarity this Saturday with the people and government of Israel. | |
| Presidential precandidate Maria Karina Machado expressed her, quote, total repudiation of the terrorist attacks carried out by Hamas, which provoked a military response by Netanyahu, who declared, quote, a state of war. | |
| She said, quote, we the we joined the global call in the fight against terrorism, which must be defeated, whatever form it takes. | |
| And there have been other similar statements by hers after that, supporting Israel as well. | |
| Here from the outlet Venci Venezuela, this is an agreement that was entered into between Netnahue's party in Israel, the Lakud, and Machado's opposition party in Venezuela in July 2020, an interparty agreement, quote, pursuant to this official document, | |
| the foreign relations division of the Likud Party and the Venci Venezuela Party, undertake to forge an alliance between our two parties to cooperate on political, ideological, and social matters, as well as advancing cooperation on issues related to strategy, geopolitics, and security, among others, in order to create an operational partnership. | |
| The goal is to bring the people of Israel closer to the people of Venezuela while advancing together the Western values to which both parties subscribe freedom, liberty, and a market economy. | |
| And then here's a tweet from her in May of 2019. | |
| My message to the Jewish people on the occasion of the 71st anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the State of Israel, the struggle of Venezuela is the struggle of Israel. | |
| So it seems very clear what the Nobel Peace Prize is designed to do at this point. | |
| It's very much like the Pulitzer. | |
| And I say that somebody as somebody whose work won the Pulitzer in 2014. | |
| But especially in 2016, as so many of our institutions that had previously been not entirely political, nothing is really apolitical, purely, but at least made a strong attempt to be, became nothing more than awards that were designed to just strengthen a very one-sided, overtly politicized agenda, which was taking down the Trump administration, even using false stories. | |
| And I'll never forget that you know that was 2020 was the year that we did a lot of reporting that on Brazil that had a major impact in Brazil, uncovering corruption and the like. | |
| And the Pulitzer for international reporting went to the New York Times for covering the evils of Russia, which was the only agenda item that anyone cared about at the time. | |
| And of course, the New York Times and Washington Post reporters in 2018 who purported to uncover major evidence of a collusion between the Trump campaign in 2016 and the Russian government to interfere and hack our elections in 2016, and by hacking, I mean the DNC emails when Robert Mueller said there was no evidence of it, gave themselves all kinds of Pulitzers. | |
| And you see the Pulitzers all the time being given in international reporting for documenting the evils of Russia in Ukraine, but never vice versa. | |
| It's also a very politicized, weaponized type of award. | |
| And most of our institutions, even ones that had previously been a political or not politicized, and the Nobel Prize for Peace is no different. | |
| A lot of MAGA people were very angry, though, that Trump didn't win. | |
| Trump has been openly campaigning for it. | |
| And so even though the award was given in a way that actually bolsters a major Trump foreign policy goal, a real real Marco Rubio goal, which is to uh regime change Venezuela, and even though the recipient dedicated the award to Donald Trump, a lot of people who are Max supporters, and it was all over Fox News, expressing the grievance that Trump should have won and didn't because Western institutions are biased against him. | |
| Here is Stephen Chung. | |
| He said this quote, President Trump will continue making peace deals, ending wars, and saving lives. | |
| He has the heart of a humanitarian, and there will never be anyone like him who can move mountains with the sheer force of his will. | |
| The Nobel Committee proved they place politics over peace. | |
| And the Nobel Foundation actually answered this. | |
| They had to respond to all of these grievances from Trump supporters that he should have won. | |
| And I think they had a pretty reasonable response that's hard to argue with, which is this quote, in order to be considered for the award of the year, nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize should be sent into the Norwegian Nobel Committee in Oslo before the first day of February the same year. | |
| The nomination deadline is the 31st of January at midnight. | |
| Nominations which do not meet the deadline are normally included in the following year's assessment. | |
| Now, to be perfectly honest, although I do believe that Trump really wants to end the war in Russia and Ukraine, and I actually believe he wants to have the war in Israel and Gaza. | |
| Neither of those wars is truly ended yet. | |
| He claims credit for ending the war, the two-week but very dangerous war between India and Pakistan. | |
| Pakistan trying to kind of curry favor with Trump, gives him the credit, even nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize, but India said absolutely not. | |
| We don't allow any foreign influence in our peace talks with Pakistan. | |
| Modi was adamant about that. | |
| So I'm not really sure. | |
| You know, you did Donald Trump is somebody who, for the last nine months, funded, armed, justified, defended. | |
| One of the worst atrocities, if not the worst atrocity, of the 21st century, which is the destruction of Gaza. | |
| And although he's now trying to end it, he played a major role in the horrors and extreme crimes of it. | |
| Despite trying, I think very hard to end the war in Ukraine and Russia, he really hasn't made much progress toward doing that. | |
| So I'm not really sure what would justify Trump winning the Nobel Peace Prize, but even if you're somebody who thinks that, it couldn't have been this year because the actions or the uh events that justify the Nobel Peace Prize, they terminate on January in January of that year. | |
| So if it's the 2024 Nobel Peace Prize, 2025 Nobel Peace Prize, which is what was just issued, all the events that are the basis of that have to be concluded by January 31st. | |
| So Trump had just been in office 11 days. | |
| So all the things people are pointing to fall outside of that time period, and the Nobel Committee is saying, look, there may be a lot of things that justify Trump's winning. | |
| Those will be considered next year because they came after the deadline. | |
| Obviously, a very reasonable response. | |
| I think the anger of the Mog movement of Trump, that Trump didn't win and that she did, is even more bizarre given that it was Trump's closest supporters who urged that she win. | |
| Here's Rick Scott, Marco Rubio, and Michael Waltz writing to the Nobel Committee in August of last year, quote, we write to you in support of the nomination of Maria Karina Rosado for the Nobel Peace Prize. | |
| In our work as policymakers who strive for democracy and human rights in the field of dictatorial regimes in the Western Hemisphere and beyond. | |
| Okay, can you go back to that? | |
| I just got to stop there for a second. | |
| Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz are describing themselves as people, quote, who strive for democracy and human rights in the face of dictatorial regimes in the Western hemisphere and beyond. | |
| This is the propagandistic deceit that lies at the core of American propaganda. | |
| Marco Rubio and Mike Walton, all of them love all sorts of tyrannies. | |
| They support the overthrow of various elected governments and the imposition of tyrannies. | |
| And yet they still have that's what always amazes me. | |
| Is a politician get off the phone with Saudi leaders where he heaps praise on them, promises support for them, gives them tech, gives them weapons, gives them money and intel to use against dissidents. | |
| And then five seconds later, we'll go on TV and say I'm somebody, and we're a country that battles dictatorship in order to overthrow it and bring freedom and democracy to the world. | |
| And they do it with a straight face, and somehow very few people, especially in mainstream media, ever confront them with that extreme contradiction. | |
| But in any event, this is just par for the course. | |
| As people who strive for democracy and human rights in the face of dictatorial regimes, we have rarely witnessed such courage, selflessness, and a firm grasp of morality, as we have in Maria Karina Machado. | |
| It is our firm belief that she's that her courageous and uh selfless leadership and underlying dedication to the pursuit of peace and democratic ideals makes her a most deserving candidate for this prestigious award. | |
| Now, again, it's I think kind of odd for her Naga to complain vociferously that she won when Trump's national uh former National Security Advisor, now ambassador to the UN and his Secretary of State are the ones who urge the award being given to her. | |
| And I guess you can say, like, hey, you know, maybe it's just a coincidence that the United States wants to engineer regime change in a country right in our region that is extremely rich in oil. | |
| Maybe it's just true that Marco Rubio and Mike Wallace and Donald Trump have like a very passionate, genuinely felt devotion to spreading freedom and democracy in the world. | |
| Even though it was invisible in Trump's weeklong debauchery in Qatar, the Emirates and the Saudis, where he couldn't have been more uh effusive of their greatness. | |
| And so many other places where we are very supportive of tyrannies. | |
| Maybe it's just a coincidence. | |
| Maybe they really do want to bring freedom to the American people, and it's a massive coincidence that it's a country extremely rich in oil, very strategically important, one where China has made a lot of inroads because the U.S. tries to suffocate and China wants to trade with it. | |
| And now we want to punish Maduro by removing him from office. | |
| But anyone who knows anything about the recent history of the United States, the foreign policy of the United States, I think I ought to see through all of this and understand that, like the mainstream media, like so many think tanks in Washington who dress themselves up as scholarly apolitical expertise, | |
| for whatever reasons, and I'm not saying I understand all the developments, the Nobel Peace Prize has become yet another weapon, and the very ample propagandistic arsenal of the United States and the West to justify everything they do in the name of fighting against tyranny and repression and in favor of human rights and peace, and this is just the latest example. | |
| All right. | |
| Next question. | |
| I think we're gonna do this question. | |
| It is from uh Kay Kotwis, who says this, hey Glenn, it's blatantly obvious that Israel has lost control of the narrative, even if they didn't kill Charlie Kirk. | |
| The fact that massive amounts of Americans are pointing the finger at them reveals their PR has completely failed, doesn't it? | |
| Do you really think that the takeover of Paramount CBS and TikTok will change that? | |
| And if not, are you afraid of the measures that a powerful desperate country like Israel is willing to take. | |
| Having Larry Ellison, a single extremely blatantly pro-Israel billionaire, go on this massive frenetic shopping spree. | |
| Not just for major media companies in the West like Paramount and the parent company of CNN to control CBS, CBS News and uh to control Paramount's entertainment properties and CBS News and CBS itself, | |
| but also potentially CNN at the same time Larry Ellison has seized a lot of control over TikTok, easily the most influential social app, social media app among young Americans, where a lot of pro-Palestinian sentiment and organizing was taking place among young people, which is the reason why it was banned. | |
| I mean, that to me just strikes me as a very desperate action because it's just how brazen it is. | |
| I mean, they they prefer the pro-Israel lobby does to exert its influence in the shadows. | |
| You know, in like the sewers and all the tunnels and the backrooms of Washington and on K Street. | |
| They don't like to be so overt about what they're doing because it makes more people see what they are and the influence they have. | |
| But they're looking at these unraveling poll numbers, and there was this amazing poll out this week. | |
| We have covered a lot of these polls. | |
| My moan means all. | |
| It seems like each one is worse than the prior one for Israel. | |
| CNN reported it that it's the first time in history that a majority of Americans now side with or sympathize more with the Palestinians than they do with Israel. | |
| A majority of Americans sympathize more and are feel more connected to the Palestinians than they do to Israel. | |
| It's impossible to overstate how stunning that is. | |
| If you had told me that was going to happen even five years ago, I would never have committed, I would have thought you're living in some sort of parallel universe that I've never visited. | |
| And a major part of that change is young conservatives. | |
| I don't mean 18 to 24, I mean conservatives under the age of 50, basically people who haven't been feeding themselves for years on Sean Hannity and Fox News, who have a more diverse range of voices and sources of information than people who pop themselves down in front of Fox for the last 20 years, 30 years, which is purely pro-Israel. | |
| And I'm not convinced, as the question suggests, that that could be reversed. | |
| People have seen what they've seen. | |
| Once you open your eyes to these things, it's very impossible to have your eyes closed to them. | |
| And the horrors of what Israel has done, and the accompanying awakening about how our government is so dedicated to Israel, so captive to it. | |
| It's been so rapid in the last two years and has contaminated so many different fact sectors and circles that it not to use this cliche, but it seems to have reached the tipping point where it's just now all falling over. | |
| And it seems like a fait accompli that this is just continue to grow and be a permanent part of our American of the American framework. | |
| And look, buying CBS, as much as you want to say CBS News is a dying institution, which it is, you're talking about Paramount, which still has a lot of cultural sway. | |
| And so they control the Ellisons do films and shows and movies and their content. | |
| CBS as an entertainment network can still attract people and they control the content of that. | |
| And then, you know, 60 minutes CBS News, the morning show, nobody watches those shows. | |
| But 60 Minutes still has some cachet. | |
| They still have some impact online. | |
| It's not nothing. | |
| It's by far, it's far from trivial. | |
| But they're not just investing in those kind of old media outlets, but also TikTok, where every Democrat and Republican who voted to ban TikTok will tell you the reason it got so many votes in Congress finally was because the ADL called it for it to be closed, because people started realizing that a major source of uh information that American that was changing the minds of Americans, | |
| not just American liberals but American conservatives about Israel, was constantly watching what Israel was doing in Gaza, and then also understanding how devoted our political leaders are to Israel, how often they visit, how much money they want to give there, often at the expense of what are supposed to be their own constituents. | |
| And I don't know how you reverse that trend. | |
| You go and look at propaganda campaigns Israel is currently running, and they're met with immense amounts of scorn and Hatred and anger. | |
| I saw a clip today where Glenn Beck, you know, who's his old adult life, he's been a Christian uh Zionist of Israel, he's a supporter of Israel. | |
| He went to an event and for young people on multiple questions that were highly critical of Glenbeck for her support of Israel or just questions about why the U.S. should support Israel were asked as it become extremely common. | |
| If a conservative, prominent conservative, goes and speaks at colleges of preferring people, it's guaranteed they're gonna get a lot of those kind of questions about Israel. | |
| It is everywhere. | |
| And yeah, people like Larry Allison and the people who work in in Israel who are trying, you know, they force TikTok to hire a former IDF soldier, an American citizen who went to Israel to fight in the IDF to hire her to be in charge of censoring all content related to Israel and supposed anti-Semitism. | |
| I mean, the censorship is becoming more and more severe. | |
| And the investments, if you're talking about billions of dollars in overt propaganda to try and reverse this trend, and a lot of uh platforms that shape American thought is shockingly unlimited and right out in the open. | |
| The problem is that there are so many different sources of information now. | |
| Obviously, we don't live in the world of the 70s, 80s, and 90s, where there's only three networks. | |
| We certainly don't even live in the world where there's at least five other cable networks, or even the early iteration of blogs, and the we're talking about podcasts and independent shows and just YouTube programs all over the place. | |
| And it's it's not very controllable. | |
| And Western governments know that. | |
| That's why they're also engaged in very for their own reasons in very extreme and and and egregious acts to try and control it. | |
| But it seems like a losing battle to me. | |
| I hope I'm not being overly optimistic. | |
| I wouldn't sell the Israelis short or underestimate their ability to control uh messaging and the flow of information inside the United States. | |
| They've proven their great skill at that over decades in a way that would make anyone foolish and just immediately dismiss their efforts as futile and likely to fail. | |
| People like Larry Ellison are worth 350 billion dollars for a reason, and they think a lot about what they're doing, and they are serious people who are very devoted to that cause above all else, and they'll, I'm sure, do anything to make it work. | |
| I just think the forces of progress in terms of how the internet functions, in terms of how information is now decentralized and diffuse, and especially that they're very slow to react to the last two years of propaganda. | |
| They don't, they they don't they didn't seem to realize what the effects would be of committing a genocide in front of the whole world, where everybody, including people in Gaza, have cell phones. | |
| They banned the international media, but you don't even need the international media. | |
| The people of Gaza, as poor and deprived as they are, could show the world themselves what was happening. | |
| And we didn't just see it for two weeks or two months, we saw it for two years, day after day after day after day. | |
| And we heard, not we, not just being me, but so many people have heard other people commenting on this, saying how evil and awful it is and questioning why the United States is there to the point where it has contaminated or informed a huge new generation of people. | |
| And Larry Ellison can buy the entire internet. | |
| And I doubt seriously that there's gonna be any substantial reversal of the tide of Israel losing the trust and faith and support of the American people, not just the American liberals and Democrats and the left, which they've long ago written off, but American conservatives as well. | |
| Obviously, you have very prominent people. | |
| Come on, Candace Owens, who whatever you want to say about her, is I think the most listened to, or one of the top three most listened to independent media voices in the country, and Nick Twentez, who has become rapidly more influential among young American conservatives, huge numbers of them. | |
| They're far from aberrations. | |
| Obviously, Tucker Carlson, whose political show is number one. | |
| I mean, it's become, I wouldn't say yes, necessarily mainstream or or indicative of what it means to be on the American right to oppose Israel, but it used to be something that would be career-ending, would relegate you to the fringes, and now it's something that the American right is extremely comfortable with, uh, has uh huge numbers of influential voices and people and groups uniting to question it. | |
| And I see what Israel is doing. | |
| I see what these billionaires are doing. | |
| I find it disturbing. | |
| I've talked about it a lot, but in terms of whether they're going to succeed and meaningfully recapturing the American people as propagandistic drones walking around reciting pro-Israel sentiments. | |
| Or more importantly, if if they think they can at least weaken it enough so that politicians in Washington, who ultimately are the only people they really care about, as long as Congress and both parties supports Israel, that they'll feel unthreatened enough where they can be pro-Israel. | |
| Because right now, a lot of people, especially in the Democratic Party, know if they run into primary and they're pro-Israel and their opponent is not, they're gonna have an extremely hard time winning. | |
| And that political pressure works. | |
| And I just don't see, I'm not saying it's gonna happen overnight. | |
| The prolific Israel open is very powerful. | |
| A lot of these politicians have been spouting pro-Israel dogma for decades, and these people start to lose an awareness of what they really believe and what they're pretending to believe to advance their careerism. | |
| And I'm sure some of them just think they believe it because they've been having to pretend long enough that they do. | |
| So I'm not saying it's gonna happen overnight, that there's going to be a collapse immediately in the power centers in Washington. | |
| But these changes and transformations in American public opinion on this topic, which used to be basically closed off the debate, are really quite stunning. | |
| Because of how many tools have been developed to keep it uh under control for so long, and it's just kind of exploded. | |
| And I don't think you can put all that back in and just put the top on it again and keep it under control. | |
| Maybe they'll make some interrogals, but I think they're gonna be trivial and marginalized at best. | |
| And obviously, at some point that's gonna have to have some real effect on US policy toward Israel. | |
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