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Is There Evidence of Epstein's Ties to Israel? Yes: Ample. Brazil's Chief Censor Orders Rumble to Ban US Citizen and Turn Over Data

While Trump, the FBI, and the DOJ are trying to shut down any more questions about Jeffrey Epstein, a major question remains: did Epstein have ties to domestic or foreign intelligence? Plus: Brazil's tyrannical censorship judge demands that Rumble censor a U.S. citizen and hand over data, escalating tensions between Brazil and the Trump administration.  -------------------------------- Watch full episodes on Rumble, streamed LIVE 7pm ET. Become part of our Locals community Follow System Update:  Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook  

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Good evening.
It's Monday, July 14th.
Welcome to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. Eastern exclusively here on Rumble, the free speech alternative to YouTube.
Tonight, President Trump last week reacted with anger and dismissiveness when a reporter asked his Attorney General at the White House, Pam Bondi, whether Jeffrey Epstein had connections with a foreign or domestic intelligence agency.
That's too trivial to even discuss, Trump decreed.
For her part, Attorney General Bondi said she had no idea whether Epstein had any such ties, as if it were the first time she even ever heard of that or considered it, and said she'd get back to us with the answer, do not hold your breath.
Then, Apt Carlson over the weekend said at Charlie Kirk's Turning Points USA conference that he believes Epstein has ties to Israeli intelligence.
Something he said everyone in Washington knows.
The attacks on Carlson were as intense and unified as anything I've ever seen with former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett issuing a carefully worded but enraged denial toward Carlson, vowing that he, quote, won't take it anymore.
Is there evidence that the serial pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein had ties to the Israeli government and its intelligence agencies such as the Mossad?
In a word, yes.
Note that I did not say there was proof.
That's different than evidence.
Because only the U.S. government can show us the definitive evidence about this question one way or the other.
Something that bizarrely they simply refused to do, even though the exact people in charge of the key agencies in the government spent years vowing that they would do so as soon as they got into power.
We'll review all that evidence linking Epstein to the Israelis, not so much to prove that Epstein was an Israeli agent since we can't do that, but to demonstrate that there is very ample ground for asking that question and demanding the Trump administration show us what they have on this topic and all topics related to Jeffrey Epstein.
Then, just last week, President Trump imposed 50% tariffs on Brazilian products.
In part, he said because Brazil's Supreme Court and its chief censorship judge, Alexander de Marais, have been attacking the free speech rights of American citizens and American companies.
Note, he didn't say he was attacking the free speech rights of Brazilian citizens, even though he is.
Trump said he was attacking the free speech rights of American citizens and American companies.
Trump was referring, at least in large part, if not exclusively, to Rumble, which was blocked from all of Brazil by Maraes for failure to obey his censorship orders, and they're still blocked in Brazil.
Rumble is.
Now, as if to prove Trump's point, Maraj issued one of the most draconian orders yet, clearly defying Trump and provoking him into further action.
He issued an order to Rumble, again, an American company based in the United States, ordering Rumble, this platform, to ban the account of an American citizen living in the United States.
His name is Rodrigo Constantino.
He's also a Brazilian national and lives in the United States as an American citizen.
And aside from the fact that Rumble is already fully banned in Brazil, making Barrettia's new censorship order nonsensical, why would Rumble have to ban one specific account in Brazil when the entire platform is already banned in Brazil because of this judge?
The judge also ordered Rumble to turn over all user data about this American citizen or suffer massive fines, meaning where he logged in, with whom he was speaking, anything they have on him.
Now, the glaring irony is that Brazilian President Lula de Silva and most of the Brazilian political media class have been screaming about the sanctity of sovereignty in response to Trump's tariffs.
Yet here is their leading judge, the hero of the left, the main ally of the government, blatantly purporting to dictate to American companies what information they must turn over about an American citizen living in the United States and further purporting to order what they can and cannot permit him to say.
We'll cover all of that before we get to that.
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There are a lot of issues swirling around the Epstein case and there have been for quite a long time.
But I have always said going back years and this year leading up to the expectation that the Trump administration would finally give us the answers that its key officials had long been promising, that the most significant unanswered question, at least one of them, was whether Jeffrey Epstein had ties with or worked with or for any intelligence agency, foreign or domestic.
The reason that's an important question is an obvious one.
Namely, that intelligence agencies want as much dirt on people as they can get.
That's why they spy on people.
It's why they invent invasive surveillance technologies.
The Israelis are masters of this.
Most of the most pernicious spying programs like Pegasus emanates from Israel.
The Israelis are notorious in using intelligence against their allies like the United States, spying in person, spying digitally.
And Jeffrey Epstein was obviously somebody who had access to the most elite circles of the most powerful people who spent a great deal of time with him, consorting with him, staying with him, visiting him, flying with him, going to his island, even after, after He was convicted of soliciting minors for prostitution and having sex with minors.
I mean, what?
How is that even possible?
You know, somebody has been convicted, has pled guilty to using minors as prostitutes, minors who can't consent, who are basically raped if you have sex with them, which is what Jeffrey Episcopal did.
And then you say, come to my house.
I'm going to fly with you on your plane.
I'm going to be your friend.
I'm going to spend a lot of time with you.
And of course, all of that finally came to a head in 2018 when the evidence became overwhelming of all he had gotten away with and all the questions swirling around him.
And the U.S. government indicted him.
And then he allegedly committed suicide in prison.
So there have been a lot of questions.
But to me, the biggest one has always been, was he working with or for any foreign intelligence agency?
In part because his wealth was massive.
Clearly a multi-billionaire.
No one knows where his wealth came from.
He was working as a teacher at a private high school, the Dalton School, even though he had no college degree.
And then suddenly appeared out of nowhere as one of the world's richest people and couldn't explain any to anybody what was the source of his vast wealth.
He had cameras in all of these homes where all of this sex with underage people was taking place.
It's exactly the kind of thing that any intelligence agency would die to get their hands on.
And especially if they had leverage over him, that's the one thing you would want from him, is that kind of information.
And it doesn't mean when I say did he have connections with or work for with a foreign intelligence agency that it means they had massive tapes of the most powerful people having sex with underage children and then using it to blackmail them.
That's kind of the maximalist version.
I could even say the caricature, the cartoon version, though it wouldn't shock me if there were aspects of that.
But working for her with intelligence agencies can mean something, there's a huge ground between that and, oh no, he had nothing to do with intelligence agencies.
This was the question.
I want to just keep emphasizing this because it's so vital not to forget this.
When Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and the Trump administration announced they were closing this case because they found nothing incriminating, they ran to Axios of all places and leaked a memo on Sunday night announcing to the public that they found nothing incriminating, there was no blackmail, he definitely killed himself.
No, there was no client list, even though they had repeatedly said there was.
But one thing they did not say is whether he was working with or for foreign intelligence agencies or domestic intelligence agencies, which is something that people have been asking for a long time.
They didn't even address it.
That's not one of the things they denied.
They didn't even bother to address it.
And so a very conscientious reporter who I believe worked for the New York Post went to the White House during one of President Trump's press briefings where his cabinet was there, including Pam Bondi, and he asked Pam Bondi exactly that question.
Do you know if Donald, if if Jeffrey Epstein was working for with foreign intelligence agencies?
And this is where Trump erupted with anger and said, move on, this is not even worth talking about.
And Pam Bondi basically said, I don't know, never thought of it.
Here's just a reminder of what happened.
Jeffrey Epstein lets some lingering mysteries.
One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.
The former labor secretary, who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Kostick, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
So could you resolve whether or not he did?
And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of 7?
Yeah, sure.
Could I just interrupt you for a second?
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
Jeffrey Epstein?
That's like the most irrelevant thing.
That's some guy who died like, what, three, four years ago?
Some guy, some guy I was really good friends with and used to hang out with in Palm Springs.
But he's just some guy that apparently, I don't know, committed some crime.
He's dead now.
Why would anyone talk about him of all people?
It was Trump who went around in 2024 repeatedly promising to bring transparency to this case.
And it was all the people he put at the FBI and the DOJ and his own vice president who were banging on the table demanding disclosure of all information in the government's possession and accusing the people who wouldn't provide it of covering up for pedophile rings.
And now Trump is like, huh?
Jeffrey Epstein, that rings a bell, but why would you be asking about something so trivial?
And then we showed you this, we went over this many times.
And then when Pam Bondi went to answer that question after Trump scolded everybody for even talking about it, given all the important things Trump was doing, this is what she said.
In February, I did an interview on Fox about the client list he reviewed, meaning the file, along with the JFK MLK files as well.
That's what I meant by that.
Also, to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Child porn is what they were.
Never going to be released, never going to see the light of day.
To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that.
can get back to you on that and the minute I don't know.
Never thought about it before.
We'll get back to you.
Now, at the end of that statement, she said, and that's it on Epstein.
And the Trump administration's official position is this case is closed.
You're not getting any more.
And Trump himself said, anyone who asks is going to get screamed at.
It's time to move on.
I found it so interesting that the specific question that was asked was one they never even bothered to answer, even to deny, which is, did Jeffrey Epstein work for with domestic or foreign intelligence agencies?
And then Pambotti admits she has no idea.
She doesn't know.
Pretty significant question, no?
Given that he was sex trafficking apparently up to 1,000 or more minors on American soil, involving some of the most powerful people in the world associating with him, whether they were involved in that or not.
Shouldn't we know whether he was working with domestic intelligence or foreign intelligence with respect to anything, let alone with respect to this specific matter?
Seems like the answer so obviously is yes.
Now, it's not just that Trump in that meeting said, Are you an idiot asking me about, what is his name again?
Jeffrey, what is it?
Ah, Jeffrey, Epstein, that guy who killed himself like four years ago?
Why would you be talking about someone like so irrelevant?
But obviously, a lot of people in Trump's orbit, including his own base, didn't stop talking about it to their credit.
And as a result, he felt compelled to return to true social and say to them, didn't I tell you to move on?
And yet some of you are still talking about this.
I thought I said move on.
I'm pretty sure I did.
And it was like this rambling, angry statement that so clearly attracted a lot of people to have suspicions who maybe didn't even have them before.
Here's what he wrote on July 12th, quote, what's going on with my boys and in some cases, gals?
They're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job.
We're all one team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening.
We have a perfect administration.
Not a very good administration, not a successful administration, but we have a perfect administration.
There you see it.
We have a perfect administration.
Like, why would anybody be questioning us at all?
Our administration is perfect.
It's the talk of the world.
And yet, selfish people are trying to hurt it all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.
Now, if you ask about Epstein, Trump rode this Epstein wave for years.
So did his key influencers, supporters, advisors, and now cabinet officials.
And now if you ask about Jeffrey Epstein, you're like, wait a minute, you promised all this disclosure, now you're telling us we're not getting any.
Now you're selfish.
You're a selfish person.
Trump says, for years, it's Epstein over and over again.
Yeah, who was doing that?
It was Trump and his entire movement.
Then he goes on, why are we giving publicity to files that were written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration who calmed the world with the Russia-Russia Russia hoax, 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell and more?
They, meaning Biden, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Obama, they're the ones who created the Epstein files, he said.
Huh?
Just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton, Christopher Seale dossier that many used on me and now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands.
Why didn't these radical, so this is, I just, this is so important.
He's not saying there's no Epstein files.
He's not saying the government doesn't have any.
He's saying they're faked.
They're fabricated by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, James Comey, John Brennan.
Why would they fabricate them and not release them for four years of the Biden administration?
Why would they fabricate them at all?
And why does Trump have such an interest in telling people, oh, in case you ever see them, I just want you to know ahead of time, they're not real, not real, they're fabricated.
This is a month after Elon Musk publicly said, no, he deleted it, he didn't retract it, that Trump's name is in the Epstein files.
I don't know if that's true.
I'm not saying that sarcastically or ass covering.
I don't know, Elon Musk, do I believe that he would make something like that up while in a war with Trump?
Yes.
But when Trump starts saying, like, oh, these Epstein files are totally fake, they were written by Obama and Hillary and Biden, that really, I understand why people are saying, you know what, I never really thought much about these Epstein files before, but now this is starting to make me wonder why they're covering these up.
He goes on, quote, if there was anything in there that could have hurt the MAGA movement, why didn't they use it?
Yeah, so if Biden, Obama, Hillary, Comey, and Brennan made it all up and fabricated it, why wouldn't they put anything incriminating about you?
And why didn't they release it?
He goes on, Cash Patel and the FBI must be focused on investigating voter fraud, political corruption, ACT Blue, the Rigden-Stolen election of 2020, and arresting thugs and criminals instead of spending months after month looking at nothing but the same old radical left-inspired documents on Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein is now a radical left cause.
If you mention Jeffrey Epstein, ask about it, complain that Trump seems to be violating every promise he and his associates made about this, you're selfish and you're part of the radical left.
Let Pam Bondi do her job.
She's great, he said.
One year ago, our country was dead.
Now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world.
Let's keep it that way and not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Nobody cares about Jeffrey Epstein, he said.
Something that, somebody that nobody cares about.
You know, it's so interesting because I absolutely recall Trump himself going around in 2024 saying, huh, yeah, I do think we ought to take a look at this Epstein client list and seriously start not just releasing that, but everything.
And I definitely remember J.D. Vance and Donald Trump Jr. and Dan Boggino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi saying for the last four years, it's one of our great disgraces that the government is hiding the Epstein documents and it means that people in the Biden administration are concealing and protecting pedophiles.
And they implied Bill Gates and Bill Clinton were among them.
And then Alina Abba, who's Trump's personal attorney and now the U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, where he appointed her, said in February after she was already in office on Piers Morgan that I've seen these files, they're shocking.
They incriminate huge amounts of people and we're going to release them because it's time we bring accountability.
What happened to all of that?
Now nobody cares about Epstein.
If you ask about it, you're selfish.
You're part of the radical left and you're playing into the hands of the left like Hillary and Obama because they're the ones who invented the Epstein files.
They're not even real.
Nothing of this exists.
Over the weekend, Tucker Carlson appeared at Turning Point USA, the conference created by Charlie Kirk for younger conservatives.
It's turned into one of the major conservative conferences.
And Tucker most definitely did not heed Trump's order to move on and stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
In fact, he gave a speech which, I don't even want to say he, like, pick up the stick and hit the hornet's nest.
It's actually far more extreme than that.
He kind of like picked up the hornet's nest with his hands and threw them on the ground, threw it on the ground and started stomping on it as much as he could.
Because the reaction to this was remarkable, and it's not hard to understand why when you listen to what he said.
Not acceptable.
And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Epstein was working on behalf of Intel services, probably not American.
And we have every right to ask, on whose behalf was he working?
How does a guy go from being a math teacher at the Dalton School in the late 70s with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island, and the largest residential house in Manhattan?
Where did all the money come from?
And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of that because no one has ever tried.
And moreover, it's extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government.
Now, no one's allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed into Note how many people in the audience are cheering at.
I just want you to reflect on this because this is a major conservative conference directed principally at younger conservatives.
And Tucker Carlson, who already is somebody who has been aggressively questioning the U.S. relationship of Israel, of financing it, of arming it, of supporting it, of censoring the United States on behalf of it, not only gets invited to this conference and everyone's there to listen to him speak.
He's one of the featured keynote speakers.
But when he says, we all know that the foreign intelligence agency or the country with which Jeffrey Epstein was associated was Israel, even though we're not allowed to say it, huge numbers of people in the audience start cheering.
These are conservatives.
Even two years ago, this would have been absolutely unthinkable, unheard of.
Maybe at a Nick Fuentes conference.
But it's notable, Nick Fuentes, who is a very vocal credit conventional to put that mildly, is excluded from all these conservative establishment venues.
They will not have him.
And yet, the tide has turned so much, not just in American discourse with respect to Israel, and we've shown you the polling data showing this before, but even with respect to conservative discourse, in fact, the only demographic lap that has positive views toward Israel are older conservatives, meaning people have been watching Fox News for 30 years.
Young conservatives, by a plurality, do not have good views of Israel.
And you see it in this reaction.
At any time in my lifetime, anybody going before a mainstream conservative conference and saying what Tuck Carlson just said would have been dude off the stage.
And for that matter, would never have been invited.
Pat Buchanan was a very vocal critic of Israel.
So was Ron Paul.
So is Ron Paul.
So is Pat Buchanan, though he's not active anymore in public life, though Ron Paul is.
And they were excluded from all these places for that reason.
Here is the rest of this.
Thinking that that's naughty, there is nothing wrong with saying that.
There is nothing hateful about saying that.
There's nothing anti-Semitic about saying that.
There's nothing even anti-Israel about saying that.
I've spent my entire life pretty much in Washington where I knew and loved a number of people, including one very close person who worked at CIA.
That has never prohibited me from saying, I think the CIA has done some horrible things, murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of a sitting U.S. president.
It's got a whole trail of crimes.
That doesn't make me a disloyal American.
It doesn't make me anti-American in any sense.
I was born here.
My family's been here for hundreds of years.
I love this country.
That's why I live here.
So criticizing the behavior of a government agency does not make you a hater.
It makes you a free person.
It makes you a citizen.
You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave.
You're a citizen.
And you have a right to expect that your government will not act against your interest.
And you have a right to demand that foreign governments not be allowed to act against your interest.
That's not creepy.
It shouldn't be forbidden.
And yet all of us have trained ourselves to believe that you can't say that somehow.
That that's like too naughty and forbidden.
And the effect of making that off limits has been to create a lot of resentment.
And I'll say it, hate online.
Where people feel like they can't just say, like, what the hell is this?
You have the former Israeli prime minister living in your house.
You have had all this contact with the foreign government.
Weren't you working on behalf of Mossad?
Were you running a blackmail operation on behalf of foreign government?
By the way, every single person in Washington, D.C. thinks that.
I've never met anyone who doesn't think that.
I don't know any of them that hate Israel, but no one feels they can say that.
Why?
And I think the longer that we play along with it, the more subterranean and creepy and hateful the conversation actually becomes.
So I think it's better just to say it right out loud.
Did this happen?
And of course that question has been asked to the government of Israel and their answer is we're not going to tell you.
And I think our answer should be no or no.
As long as we're sending you money, if you are committing crimes on our soil, we have an absolute right to know, did you do this or not?
And yet everybody has been so brainwashed into thinking that's somehow an expression of hate or bigotry when it's not, it's a baseline question that every U.S. citizen has a right to an answer on.
What the hell was this?
And of course, it's not just the Israeli government that refuses to answer that question, but also the American government, as we just showed you.
Now, when somebody as influential in the conservative movement, I mean, if this has been a Left On conference, they wouldn't have cared, they wouldn't have noticed, they would have mentioned it.
But when somebody As influential as Tucker Carlson, as prominent and influential, goes to what has become a mainstream conservative conference, may not have been, but Charlie Kirk is very, very ingratiated into the White House, has access to it, influence within it.
I mean, by definition, if you're that connected to and influential in the White House, you're not a outsider or dissident or fringe group.
You're a mainstream conservative group.
For someone like Tucker to go to this group, by the way, they also had a debate between Dave Smith and some Israel oilists from Newsweek, Hammer, I think, Jay Hammer, Josh Hammer was his name.
And they debated whether Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, whether the U.S. should be supporting Israel and financing it.
So even that is indicative of a seat change.
But that Tucker speech in particular wasn't so enough.
Tali Bennett, who was the Israeli prime minister for like six seconds during the time that Benjamin Nanya wasn't governing this country for the last 30 years, either conservative member of the, he's a member of the Likud Party, the same party as Danyah, who supports just about everything that Danyah supports.
He went onto Twitter to answer.
In fact, it was above the video of Tucker saying all this.
And this is what he said, quote, as a former Israeli prime minister with the Mossad having reported directly to me, I say to you with 100% certainty, the accusation that Jeffrey Epstein somehow worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false.
Epstein's conduct, both the criminal and the merely despicable, had nothing whatsoever to do with the Mossad or the state of Israel.
Epstein never worked for the Mossad.
The accusation is a lie being peddled by prominent online personalities such as Tucker Carlson pretending they know things they don't.
They just make things up, say it with confidence, and these lies stick because it's Israel.
Oh, always the victim.
Only reason anyone lies, the only reason people believe it is because it's Israel and everybody hates Israel.
We're the victim of the world, even though your country that I'm lecturing right now gives us billions of dollars a year, pays for our military, gives us billions, billions more whenever we want to start a new war against our neighbors.
Has your Congress passed pro-Israel resolutions on a weekly basis, expels students from your campuses and colleges, and deports them if they criticize our country?
Oh, poor Israel, we're so mistreated uniquely.
He then concludes, quote, there's a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and people, and we just won't take it anymore.
Now, I could nitpick this.
A lot of it was pretty carefully worded in terms of what the denial was, but it's a strong denial.
But for me, I don't really care what the Israeli government says.
I've never been asking the Israeli government to answer this question because I know how readily and casually the Israeli government lies.
And for that matter, all governments lie.
Especially ones at war, especially ones convinced that they're fighting some existential threat or whatever.
I mean, do you think if Jeffrey Epstein worked with Israeli intelligence in any capacity that they would say so?
I want to hear it from the U.S. government.
I want to hear it from Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi and J.D. Vance and Donald Trump.
And I find the refusal to say it extremely unsettling, especially because Dan Bongino himself was one of the people who was raising it.
Here he is with Tim Poole in May of 2023.
He's now the director, deputy director of the FBI.
About a year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who because they didn't give me permission to share it, but to show a story, but not who they are.
Says, you know, Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right?
I'm like, no, I didn't know that.
I'm like, you sure of that?
The person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely sure of that.
That he's either a witting or unwitting asset, intelligence asset.
Meaning, his plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein.
That's a huge mistake.
The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh yeah, Epstein had him.
No, he wasn't the only one who had him, according to this source.
These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense.
Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know, but this person who is a very, very good reporter, I mean, ACEs, right?
Swore Epstein was either a witting or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff.
So the point is, to sum it up, how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions?
Hey, he wouldn't want this video out there, right?
How do you know?
100%.
I mean, let's.
I mean, that's the deputy director of the FBI right now.
How is it possible to justify being in that position, having yourself raised this exact question, claiming that eight extremely reliable sources definitively represented this to you, and now refuse to say now that you see the evidence and the records and the documents and the intel, whether or not it's true?
How can that possibly be justified?
Who would possibly justify it for Dan Bongino?
I'm not saying Dan Bongino is a decision maker.
He has Caspatel above him, Pam Bondi above them, Donald Trump above all of them.
And there's reports that Dan Bongino is considering quitting.
I assume I have heard from people who know him extremely well that those reports are true, or at least he wants people to believe that.
And from my experience with him, I don't know him well, really, at all.
But I know people who know him very well.
I've seen him.
I don't think he would just be this master manipulator where he would be putting that out there if he didn't mean it, but he could quit.
And if he doesn't, that indicates some sort of acquiescence.
Alex Acosta was Donald Trump's labor secretary in the first term of Trump's presidency.
He happened also to be the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2007, eight, nine, when Jeffrey Epstein was charged with and allowed to plead guilty to very minor charges, relatively, of soliciting a prostitute who was Underage and having sex with minors, basically using underage people, underage kids as prostitutes and having sex with them.
Now, usually that's not considered a trivial crime, but Epstein was allowed to plead guilty by Alex Acosta's office, who then became Trump's labor secretary 10 years later.
And it never made sense why.
Our country does not go easy on pedophiles, especially ones who use underage people as prostitutes and sex trafficks them.
You think South Florida, Florida is known for going easy on pedophiles?
And yet Jeffrey Epstein spent tiny amounts of time in prison, barely any, and in prison he had all the prerogatives.
And then he was allowed out to serve the rest of his year at his house.
He did community service.
Community service.
That's what you get if you like speed or where you get into an accident that doesn't harm anybody and you're at fault.
You go get community service.
You don't usually get community service when you're caught sex trafficking underage people for prostitution and having sex with them.
And yet, Alex Acosta, his office, gave Epstein that plea deal.
And obviously when Alex Acosta was proposed as Trump's in Trump's cabinet for the first term, people wanted to know, like, hey, what happened there?
Now, this is something that Deli Beast reported.
And I'm not saying this is well sourced or reliable, but then the Deli Beast is a very untrustworthy, trashy tabloid.
But they don't typically just make things up.
All right, here's what it says.
Quote, Epstein's name, I was told, has been raised by the Trump and transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami, who infamously cut Epstein in non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary.
The plea deal put a hard stop, a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.
Quote, is the Epstein case going to cause a problem for confirmation hearings, Epcosta had been asked.
Acosta had explained breezily, apparently that back in the day, he had just one meeting on the Epstein case, which is one meeting.
He cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had, quote, been told to back off that Epstein was above his pay grade, quote, I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone, he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta.
I mean, it had to be the case.
Just stands to reason that when they were going to put Alex Acosta into Trump's cabinet as Secretary of Labor, which meant he had to go through Senate confirmation, obviously the big, huge red mark on Alex Acosta's record, at least one of them, is that he was the one who gave this insane, bizarre, obviously alarming plea deal to Jeffrey Epstein.
And of course, the question was going to be raised, why would you do that?
And there are people inside the Trump transition who said that Acosta's answer was, I was told he belongs to Intel and to therefore back off.
Now, when Acosta was asked publicly about this by a journalist later, he denied that he had said that.
Which leaves the question still of, well, then why would he give Jeffrey Epstein this kind of plea deal?
But the fact that it was reported that there are people inside the Trump transition who said that that was his answer, again, I'm not saying any of this is proof, but it's absolutely evidence that entitles not only you to ask the question, but obligates the government to answer, and yet they won't.
There's other evidence like Jeffrey Epstein to the Israeli government and Israeli intelligence, and we should take a look at those.
So let's do that.
I want you to note how well documented, well-sourced all of this is.
This is not, you know, message boards or Facebook posts that I'm finding arbitrarily.
These are well-known, well-documented facts about all the people involved.
Kazane Maxwell is the only person to actually spend time in prison for what Jeffrey Epstein did.
She's accused of being his primary associate, the person who found the girls who he sex trafficked.
She was accused of having sex trafficked huge numbers of underage girls for him.
She pled guilty.
She didn't have to go through, there was no real disclosures as part of her trial.
And she's now sitting in a federal prison.
Jose Maxwell came from a very, very wealthy family.
In fact, her father was a billionaire.
His name was Robert Maxwell.
And he changed his name.
Even though his name is Robert Maxwell, he's a British citizen.
Robert Maxwell is Jewish.
And he was a fanatical supporter of Israel.
In fact, when he died, it was under very mysterious circumstances.
He was on his yacht and he somehow disappeared just off his yacht.
Just died, disappeared off his yacht.
No one saw.
And when he died, it was a week after Seymour Hirsch had reported that he worked with the Mossad.
And then other journalists reported that as well.
And Robert Maxwell at first denied it.
He sued Seymour Hirsch for reporting that he was a Mossad agent.
But he had been so integral into the Israeli government that, as the Washington Post reported in 1991, when he died, Israel gives Robert Maxwell a farewell fit for a hero.
This is Glisain Maxwell's father.
Quote, publisher Robert Maxwell today was given a funeral befitting a national hero by Israel, the country with which he developed an intimate and sometimes controversial relationship in the last three years of his life.
Maxwell, whose body was recovered from the Atlantic Ocean off the Canary Islands last Tuesday after he disappeared from his yacht.
Whoops.
We all disappear from our yachts sometimes, not a big deal.
He was buried late this afternoon in Judaism's most prestigious spot, the cemetery on Jerusalem's Mount of Olives facing the Western Wall.
His funeral service in Jerusalem's Hall of the People was attended by a host of Israeli politicians led by Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir and President Chaim Herzog, who eulogized the self-made tycoon as, quote, a man cast in a heroic mold.
Only a week before his death, the volatile owner of the New York Daily News and Britain's Mirror newspaper group became involved in an exchange of lawsuits with author Seymour Hirsch, the multiple Pulitzer Prize winner who broke the story of the massacre in Vietnam, as well as Abu Ghraib, one of the most accomplished, celebrated journalists on the planet.
He reported that he was a Mossad agent that led to an exchange of lawsuits.
And he had, quote, accused Maxwell of working with Israel's Mossad intelligence agency.
Nobody was better sourced inside American Intel or is still than Seymour Hirsch.
Quote, Maxwell's death at sea only intensified the speculation in London where Hirsch promised to produce further revelations of the 68-year-old publisher's clandestine Israeli connections.
Here's how that lawsuit terminated.
New York Times August 1994, U.S. author, meaning Seymour Hirsch, gets an apology in the libel case.
Quote, the out-of-court settlement announced in the high court in London also ended a countersuit brought by the author Seymour Hirsch and the publisher of Faber and Favor Limited.
The Maxwell lawsuit was prompted by Mr. Hirsch's 1991 book, The Sampson Option, about Israel's nuclear weapons program.
In yesterday's proceeding, a lawyer for the Mirror Group, which was controlled by Mr. Maxwell before his death in November 1991, said it acknowledged that Mr. Hirsch, quote, is an author of excellent reputation of the highest integrity who would never write anything which he did not believe to be true and that he was in this instance fully justified in writing what he did.
Fully justified was the admission by Robert Maxwell's publishing company and his estate about Seymour Hirsch's well-documented, well-sourced claim that Losaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a billionaire who worked for Israeli intelligence.
Now, the fact that he was working for the Mossad and that just so happened to be the father of Jeffrey Epstein's principal accomplice, I don't know, seems like at least evidence worth asking to me.
Aside from the fact that he was given basically a state funeral in Israel, the president, prime minister, and every Israeli prominent official came to the funeral and heaped praises on him, you think he might have done something for the Mossad and for the Israeli government?
Another issue that has always been mysterious and crucial to understanding the Epstein case is the source of his wealth.
Jeffrey Epstein wasn't just rich.
He had the life of only a multi-billionaire can leave.
He can lead multiple private planes.
I don't mean like four-seat Cessnas.
I mean like 747 jets.
He had the largest residential property in all Manhattan, all of Manhattan, where the richest people in the world live.
He had the biggest house, the biggest living space.
That massive private, he had a private island in the Caribbean, a gigantic sprawling mansion in West Palm Beach, a massive estate and ranch in New Mexico.
Where did that come from?
He didn't work for a bank.
He didn't work for a hedge fund.
One of the main sources of wealth was from someone named Les Wexner, who's a multi-billionaire, who was the founder of Victoria's Secrets, the lingerie company.
Became extremely wealthy, multi-billionaire.
He's still alive.
He's in his late 80s.
And apparently the claim is, and Les Wechner got sued and got kicked off boards because of this.
But people are like, why did you shovel so much money to Jeffrey Epstein?
And he said, ah, he was really good.
He gave me some advice that saved money on taxes.
Really?
So you gave him, what, $2 billion, $3 billion for that?
Because he was like, as Tucker Carlson said when I was with him six weeks ago when we were talking about this, he said, yeah, he was basically a good tax accountant.
You don't think tax accountants generally get $2 to $3 billion?
So Les Wexner is completely tied to the Israeli government.
In fact, other than making money, Les Wexner has no purpose in this life other than to serve the Israeli government and its interests.
His Wexner Foundation, which is his nonprofit foundation, here they have on their own page, you see the Wexner Foundation, our story.
Since the early 1980s, the Wexner Foundation has been a pioneer in the field of Jewish private philanthropy for 35 years.
The Wexner Foundation has never wavered from its focus upon Jewish leadership in the Jewish world and Israel.
The foundation's professionalism, standards of excellence, and strong relationship with Jewish communities and organizations have created a model of practice for Jewish private philanthropy that has stood the test of time.
So Jeffrey Epstein's main accomplice is the daughter of a Mossad agent, and his main benefactor is somebody who devoted his life to Israel.
Here in Vanity Fair, in 2021, while Biden was president, so he's a pretty liberal magazine, and yet while Biden was president, they published The Mogul and the Monster inside Jeffrey Epstein's decades-long relationship with his biggest client, meaning Les Wexner.
Of the mysteries that still surround the life and crimes of the notorious financier, the source of his wealth and thus his power might be the greatest mystery.
His long-standing business ties with his most prominent client, billionaire retail magnate Les Wexner, hold the key.
Quote, during the 1990s, both Epstein and Wechner's profile grew on the world stage.
In 1991, Wexner co-founded a philanthropic organization of Jewish billionaires known as the Mega Group, which uses some of its vast resources to shape Middle East policy.
Oh, you don't say.
American Jewish billionaires use their vast wealth to shape Middle East policy?
Who knew?
But Les Westner devoted his life to that.
Jeffrey Epstein's primary benefactor.
Quote, in 2003, Wexner's Foundation commissioned GOP messaging bureau Frank Luntz to advise American Jewish leaders on how to rally support for Israel.
Quote, for a year, solid year, you should be invoking the name of Saddam Hussein and how Israel was always behind America's efforts to rid the world of this ruthless dictator and liberate their people, Luntz's recommendations stated.
So if you weren't able to say that, hey, you know what, I think Israel was behind the war in Iraq, and recall that Benjamin Hetyahu came and testified before the U.S. Congress in 2002 to urge the invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam, promising that he had nuclear weapons, that if you toppled Saddam Hussein, peace and prosperity and what we're going to force in the Middle East, none of which, of course, turned out to be true.
People say, oh, you're anti-Semitic.
In 2003, the Waxner Foundation hired Frank Guntz, and Frank Luntz said the key to keeping Israel popular in the U.S. is to spend a year, a solid year, invoking the name of Saddam Hussein and how Israel was always behind American efforts to rid the world of this ruthless dictator and liberate their people, the recommendation said.
Now you're not allowed to say that.
You're not allowed to say that.
Israel was behind the invasion of Iraq and the war in Iraq.
But back then, they thought it was a huge success.
And Franklin was telling us Wexner, to keep Americans loving Israel, constantly remind them that it was Israel who got you to invade Iraq.
The article goes on, quote, Epstein kept close in that circle of influence.
UN Ambassador Bill Richardson and Middle East envoy George Mitchell allegedly participated in Epstein's sex ring.
That was according to a lawsuit filed by Virginia Gufri.
Now, she turned out to be less than truthful, to put it mildly.
So they both, Richardson and Mitchell, adamantly denied the allegations.
So I wouldn't put much stock in that.
But for sure, this is true, and we'll show you the evidence in just a second.
Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak was an Epstein confidant.
Epstein invested $1 million in one of Barack's business ventures.
Barak reportedly visited the E66 condo building.
Dershowitz told me, Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer, that he once arrived at Epstein's townhouse as Epstein and Barak, the former Israeli prime minister, were wrapping up lunch.
On a chalkboard, Barak had drawn a map of how the West Bank should be divided.
Barak could not be reached for comment in 2019.
He denied any wrongdoing related to the condo visits.
Now, this gigantic sprawling townhouse that Jeffrey Epstein had in the middle of Manhattan on the Upper East Side, people are like, how did you get that?
It's like almost $100 million.
Business Insider in 2019 has an article, here's how Jeffrey Epstein may have acquired a $77 million Upper East Side townhouse for $0.
Sounds like a pretty good bargain.
Hey, here's the largest residential space in all of Manhattan.
Billionaires, this is bigger than all of them.
Years back, it was valued at $77 million.
You can get it for zero.
Do you ever say, yeah, I think I'd like that.
Here's what the article says.
In total, Epstein's real estate holdings are estimated to be valued at north of $100 million.
At the center of the investigation is Epstein's Upper East Side Townhouse, which is one of the largest private homes in Manhattan, actually the largest private home.
The townhouse was bought in 1989 by founder and CEO of El Brands Les Wexner for $13.2 million.
Wexner then sold it in 1998 to the New York-based 9 East 71st Street Corporation for an undisclosed amount.
Public records from 2011 show that Epstein held to some degree ownership of NES, which is where Wexner sold this massive townhouse.
Details of their relationship with the company are still unclear.
Public records show that in 2011, the ownership of the property was transferred from NES to the Virgin Islands-based company Maple Inc., another company also controlled by Epstein.
Documents indicate the property was transferred to Maple for $0.
Now, one of the people who most vocally accused former Israeli President Ahab Baruch of having very sinister and multifaceted ties to Jeffrey Epstein is the current Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu.
Here from the Times of London, the Times of Israel, rather, July 2019, quote, Netanyahu goes after Barack for ties to accuse billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
Quote, President Netyahu highlights the payment to political rival from the Wexner Foundation, linked to the U.S. tycoon who allegedly sex trafficked minors.
The video was published under the headline, what else has sex offender Epstein given to Barack?
According to Nanyahu's video, Epstein manages the Wexner Foundation.
Forbes said he serves as a trustee and a spokesperson for the institution that the financial news outlet, the financial news outlet that Lex Westner, founder of the organization, severed ties with Epstein over a decade ago.
From Herits in July 19 revealed Jeffrey Epstein entered a partnership worth millions with former Israeli Prime Minister Eh Baruch in 2015.
Quote, in 2015, Barack set up a limited partnership in which he is the sole shareholder.
That company invested in Rappardee Homeland Security, established in 2014, becoming a major shareholder.
Last year, Reporty changed its name to Carbine.
The company develops call handling and identification capabilities for emergency response services.
Barack is the chairman of Carbine, and according to reports by business media outlets, his personal investment in the company totals millions of dollars in it.
Herritz has learned that Epstein financed a considerable part of the investment, thus becoming a partner in the project.
One of the company's directors is Pinkis Buchris, the director general of the defense ministry during Barack's tenure as defense minister.
Bucharest encouraged the former prime minister to invest in the company.
Last year, Israeli journalist Errol Siegel reported that in 2004, the Wexner Foundation, Jeffrey Epstein's primary benefactor, gave Barack $2.3 million for research he conducted.
Barak refused to comment on the research and said, quote, as a private citizen, I deal with research and business entrepreneurship.
My services are in demand, and there are bodies prepared to pay me large sums for them.
I bet there are.
As the investigation went on, it turns out that Ebuk Baruch wasn't just a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein.
He wasn't just someone in whom Les Wexner, Jeffrey Epstein, invested millions and millions of dollars.
Remember, this is the former prime minister and defense minister of Israel.
But he was also one of Epstein's closest friends.
From the Times of Israel, May of 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak met with Jeffrey Epstein dozens of times and flew on his private plane report.
According to the Wall Street Journal's Wednesday report on the calendar's contents, Ehud Barak visited Epstein about 30 times between 2013 and 2017 at his estates in Florida and New York, including a time in 2014 when the former Israeli premier flew with Epstein on his private aircraft from Palm Beach, Tampa, after which Epstein went on to New York.
Barack said his wife and an Israeli security guard were also on that flight.
He said he flew with Epstein on his private planes on one other occasion, also with his wife and guards.
According to the report, Barack also met with Epstein mostly for nearly a year beginning December 2015.
The meetings came well after Epstein's 2008-2009 conviction and sentencing for procuring a child for prostitution.
Barack has maintained he had no knowledge of Epstein's activities.
You think the prime minister of Israel, the former prime minister of Israel, involved in tens of millions of dollars with this person, flying on his plane, staying at his house, being his best friend?
You think he does that without having a basic Google search of that person to find out that he was convicted of sex.
No, I had no idea.
Even though it was totally public, no one told me.
Epstein's calendar also featured other meetings with Barack, such as one that also included an executive at the consulting firm of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
The former premier said he first met Epstein in 2003 at an event attended by American dignitaries.
Through the late Israeli president and statesman Shimon Perez, the two arranged to meet at a later time in New York, quote, I came to his house quite a few times with my wife, Brock claimed, adding that he had met many, quote, interesting people at Epstein's homes.
So just to summarize for the moment.
Jeffrey Epstein's main accomplice who's now in prison is the daughter of a billionaire Mossad agent.
Jeffrey Epstein's primary benefactor has, Les Wexner has countless, infinite ties to the entire Israeli government, all Israeli defense officials, all Israeli prime ministers.
And one of Epstein's closest friends, in whom he was investing along with Les Wexner, millions and millions of dollars, the former defense minister and prime minister of Israel.
Do you think these are enough ties to expect an answer from the government about whether he was working for a foreign government or with a foreign government?
Or, as Dan Bongino said, maybe they were able to get access to him and to his things without even his knowledge.
Maybe they were able to spy on him using their extreme.
I mean, as you might remember, Jeff Bezos had a big scandal when he was married and a bunch of his DMs leaked to Laura Sanchez, including naked pictures of himself and all kinds of expressions of sexually explicit content.
And it was almost certainly the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who was behind that hack using Israeli surveillance technology such as Pegasus that can hack into WhatsApp, even though it's end-to-end encryption.
And of course, Bill Gates ended up divorced because it was revealed that he was cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein, even after his wife had, for some reason, we still don't know, insisted he not meet with Jeffrey Epstein.
He kept meeting with him.
So anything Israelis are looking for this kind of stuff, interested in it, even without necessarily Jeffrey Epstein is Taliban denied, working for the Mossad, I would suggest it's very naive.
One of the questions that seems to have been answered was when Jeffrey Epstein was first charged in Florida in 2007, 2008 with sex trafficking minors for prostitution, he disappeared.
And a lot of people believed he had went to Israel, planning to seek refuge there from these pedophile charges.
And the Times of Israel in July in 2019 reported this.
Epstein's lawyers claimed that a fake passport of Epstein's was needed to hire his Jewishness.
So it turned out he had a fake passport.
Who among us doesn't have a fake passport?
Quote, the attorney for U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was also accused of sex trafficking, said Thursday that he had a fake passport in order to hide his Jewish identity and avoid being kidnapped when traveling internationally.
While stressing that he had not used it to leave the country, Assistant U.S. Attorney Alex Rossmiller of the Prosecution said the government learned earlier this week that a raid of Epstein's mansion following his July 6th arrest turned up, quote, piles of cash, dozens of diamonds, and a passport with the name of the defendant, but a name other than his and a locked safe, a fake passport.
Prior to Thursday's bail hearing, defense lawyers told the judge that Epstein was given the passport by a friend after some Jewish Americans were informally advised to carry identification bearing a non-Jewish name while traveling internationally during a period when hijackings were more common.
You know, I've traveled internationally quite a bit, including through the Middle East and Muslim-majority countries and the like.
Never, no one ever told me, hey, you should get a passport with a non-Jewish name.
Our friend Sagar and Jetty, who's an excellent journalist, noted this yesterday.
In early 2008, it was open talk in New York society that Epstein moved all his assets and fled to Israel to escape those charges.
From there, in Israel, he negotiated his sweetheart plea deal, which allowed him to come back and escape real justice.
This is from Vanity Fair in 2008 while this prosecution was pending.
Talk that Jeffrey Epstein has moved himself and his assets to Israel reached the ears of such luminaries as Harvey Weinstein, Jeff Buchs, Alex Gidney, Taylor Hackford, Steve Croft, Dustin Hoffman, Alec Baldwin, and filmmaker Michael Meller.
Quote, has anyone told Vicki Ward, I heard someone behind me say, ah, fame, ever since I wrote an article about Epstein in the March 2003 issue of Vanity Fair, of V E, V F, Vanity Fair, I have had the dubious honor of being considered New York's expert on the case.
Well, I've never been one to leave a riddle unsolved.
So I called Epstein's office this morning to ask around lunchtime.
He phoned me and laughing assured me he'd been in Israel, but was now back in New York.
Quote, would you want to live in Israel?
He said.
And then here's from WPTV, a local affiliate in Florida.
Quote, April 2008, Epstein returns from Israel before pleading guilty.
Some question why he was allowed To keep his passport.
So he went to Israel, Jeffrey Epstein did, when these charges were first brought against him.
He used a fake passport to go there.
And from Israel, he negotiated his sweetheart deal.
That's the only reason he came back.
Now, it's very possible that he would never have come back.
He would have just stayed in Israel, which is weird, because how do you stay in Israel when you have pedophile charges against you pending, unless you have good contacts with the Israeli government?
It would seem like the American government could extradite you, but because Israel has basically a right of return for any Jewish person to go to Israel, CBS News, this is not Nick Fuentez, is not whatever.
This is CBS News reported in February of 2020.
This is the title of the article from CBS News.
How Jewish American Pedophiles Hide from Justice in Israel.
So Jewish American pedophiles like Jeffrey Epstein go to Israel and hide there from justice when they get caught engaging in pedophilia in the United States and Israel protects them.
Quote, a CBS News investigation, I can't stress enough, this is CBS News, investigation has found that many accused American pedophiles flee to Israel.
And bringing them to justice can be difficult.
Jewish Community Watch, an American organization that tracks accused pedophiles, has been trying for years to find Caro and help him bring to justice.
That's an American Jewish pedophile.
Since the small organization started tracking accused pedophiles in 2014, it says that more than 60 have fled from the U.S. to Israel.
Given its limited resources to identify these individuals, JCW says the actual number is likely much larger.
Israel known as a nation on the cutting edge of technology, but Shauna says that doesn't trickle down to local law enforcement.
Shauna says police don't request background checks of perpetrators arrested in Israel who have recently moved there from other countries.
They don't even do a Google search, he says.
The U.S. Department of Justice declined to comment on specific cases too, but praised their relationship with Israel's law enforcement, adding sex offenders in the past have been successfully extradited.
Now, again, if somebody asked me, like, is this proof that Jeffrey Epstein worked with the Israeli government or for it?
I would say proof.
No.
Proof means evidence that leaves no doubt that something's true.
Evidence is weaker.
Evidence is facts that bolster a conclusion but don't necessarily compel that conclusion, meaning it could be something else.
So if there's a murder and I know that person X got in a huge fight that morning with that person and threatened to kill them and then went to the store and bought a knife and some duct tape and was in the vicinity of that house and then was seen leaving the house with that big bag.
All that is evidence that the person murdered the victim, but it's not proof.
Proof would be, oh, the house had videotape, a camera, a hidden camera, and it caught the murder on the videotape, and you can clearly see the defendant's face on the videotape.
And even there, you could say it was adulterated or forged or whatever.
But in general, proof is of that kind of evidence, conclusive evidence.
None of this is conclusive in the sense that it has to be the case that Jeffrey Epstein had ties, but it's certainly pretty ample, pretty abundant, pretty concrete, at least enough to demand that not the Israeli government, but our government tell us what the answer to that question is that they refuse to ask and to not just answer it, but show us the evidence.
You can't prove a negative.
But for sure the government has information about Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to Israeli intelligence or the Israeli government.
It's impossible that they don't.
And we should get to see it and hear what Pam Bondi's answer is, what Shady Vance's answer, what's Donald Trump's answer, what's Cash Patel's answer.
Their own deputy director was raising this question.
No one can say it's irrelevant.
And when you compile the evidence, there's certainly good reason to believe that if it's not proven true, it's certainly something that any rational person would have very strong suspicions about and deserve answers to.
Thank you.
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As you know, we are poured on Brazil for all sorts of reasons, including the fact that especially when it comes to its free speech attacks, it has serious implications for the United States.
Right now, Brazil and the United States and that relationship are very much in the news For extremely important and very interesting reasons, and there was a major development in this case yesterday we wanted to tell you about.
So, just to summarize: the most influential judge on the Brazilian Supreme Court, who once was on the right, the left always hated him, called him a fascist and a racist and a white supremacist, claimed he proceeded over a genocide of black people.
That's what the left said about him just six years ago.
Now he's the national hero because he censors the left's political enemies and puts them in prison, often unjustly, is Alexandria Marais.
And one of the things he's been doing is issuing orders constantly to multiple social media companies, Axe and Rumble, Facebook, Instagram, Telegram.
And usually they all comply immediately.
X didn't.
X once refused, and he blocked X from all of Brazil for more than a month.
You couldn't access X in Brazil.
And he imposed fines on X, but X had no presence in Brazil, so he just ordered the money taken from a completely different company, Starlink, just because it was also associated with Elon Musk, and basically grabbed that money out of a completely different company to pay the fines that he imposed on X. Eventually, though, Elon Musk said, we're going to abide by your censorship orders, and he's been doing it since.
Now that's why X is in Brazil.
Rumble, however, always refused.
For a long time, they were blocked in Rumble.
Then they came back for about two weeks.
MRI immediately started issuing censorship orders and then he ordered it banned again and Rumble doesn't capitulate to these orders.
They're banned in multiple countries because of that refusal.
They're banned in France because they won't remove RT and Sputnik.
They're telling the French government, you're going to dictate to us.
We're an American company.
You're not going to dictate to us who we can platform and who we can't.
And one of the things that Maraj did in February to escalate this war is he issued an order to Rumble and to True Social ordering specific people banned, not just for Brazil, not just ban them from being heard in Brazil, but there was no limitation on it.
It was for the entire world.
So Rumble and True Social went into court together.
Here's the Rumble announcement in February of this year.
And they sued in American court over the censorship orders of Maraj targeting U.S. users.
They sued this judge.
Here was the text.
Quote, Rumble today announced that it has filed a lawsuit along with the Trump Media and Technology Group against Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexander de Maraj, alleging that Maraj violated the free speech protections of the First Amendment when he ordered the suspension of the U.S.-based accounts of a specific well-known politically outspoken user.
Rumble and TrueSocial filed the suit in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida and seek a declaration that those orders are unenforceable in the United States.
Neither Rumble nor TruSocial have any entities, operations, employees, bank accounts, or businesses in Brazil.
Rumble and TruSocial claim that not only do human rights order violate U.S. public policy by undermining America's basic principle of free speech, but they also violate U.S. sovereignty by asserting that a Brazilian court can exercise jurisdiction over an American company, engage in U.S. activity without the consent of the U.S. government.
And by the way, the target of that censorship order, he was a Brazilian citizen, but he's living in the United States legally.
He's a legal resident of the United States.
Alanta Santos was his name.
He's Brazilian.
But they were ordering Rumble, a U.S. company in the United States, to censor somebody living in the United States globally to prevent him from monetizing his account.
And Rumble was like, who are you?
A Brazilian judge tell us in the United States who we have to censor and who we don't and who can be monetized and who they don't.
And the Justice Department in May wrote a letter to Maraj, there you see it on the screen, expressing serious objections to this attempt to censor Rumble inside the United States, not just for content that appears in Brazil, but content that appears everywhere.
And in response, the Justice Minister, the Minister for Justice and Public Security, wrote back to the Justice Department, here you see that letter, June 12th.
It's a letter from the Ministrier del Justica en Sacrades Pública, which is the Justice and Public Safety Ministry, to the U.S. Department of Justice responding to this letter.
And they basically, in this letter, vowed that they would no longer issue censorship orders to American companies regarding worldwide censorship orders.
Not just for Brazilians in Brazil, but for everybody everywhere.
Last week, Donald Trump announced on True Social that he was imposing a 50% tariff on Brazil.
In part, he said it was because of what he alleged was their unfair trade practices, even though Brazil has, the U.S. has a trade surplus with Brazil, not a trade deficit.
But he also said it's in part because of Brazil's attacks on the free speech rights, not of Brazilians, which he's been assaulting continuously and brutally, but on Americans' free speech rights.
Here's part of what Trump said, quote, due in part to Brazil's insidious attacks on free elections and the fundamental free speech rights of Americans.
This is, let's put that tweet on the screen if we have it.
Oh, this is a letter from Trump.
Sorry, this is a letter from Trump to Lua.
He also posted on True Social, of course.
And he said, the Brazilian Supreme Court, which has issued hundreds of secret and unlawful censorship orders to U.S. social media platforms, threatening them with millions of dollars in fines and eviction from Brazil's social media market.
As a result, a 50% tariff will be imposed.
Now, this became a huge story in Brazil, as you might imagine, that Trump was saying, we're putting a 50% tariff on you.
And part of the reason why Brazil attracted Trump's attention is because Trump hates BRICS.
Brazil is a founding member of BRICS.
It represents the B in that acronym.
But it also just hosted the BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.
Lula was the host.
Brazil was the host country.
And Trump had said anyone participating in BRICS is going to suffer tariffs as punishment and a combination of BRICS plus this judge and a lot of people in the Trump administration urging him to act in defense of American social media companies from this one out-of-control, deranged authoritarian judge, is what caused Trump to do this.
And in Brazil, it became a gigantic nationalistic fervor.
How dare Trump try and dictate to us what we're doing inside Brazil when in reality, Trump wasn't saying we're being punished for what you're doing inside Brazil.
He was saying, you're trying to attack our social media companies.
You're trying to attack Americans' free speech rights.
And in response, the president of Brazil, Lua de Silva, issued his own tweet on X in which he said this, quote, the defense of democracy in Brazil is a matter for Brazilians.
We are a sovereign country.
We do not accept interference or guardianship from anyone.
We have solid and independent institutions.
No one is above the law.
Above all, those who attack freedom and the rule of law.
So he's basically saying, stay out of our business.
We're a sovereign country.
You have no right to dictate to us what we're doing.
Now, there's a huge irony to this.
I read an article in Folio F. San Paulo.
I'm a reporter and a columnist.
It came out today.
There you see it on the screen.
The title is Trump and Lula Repeatedly Violated the Principles They Are Now Invoking Over Tariffs.
Part of the article is about how ridiculous it is for Trump to claim that he's acting against Brazilian tyranny or in defense of free speech.
Given that no American president cares about a country being authoritarian, after all, Trump's best friends are the worst tyrants on the planet in Saudi Arabia, in Qatar, in the Emirates, Jordan, Egypt.
The United States government doesn't mind dictatorship or authoritarianism.
It loves it.
It's overthrew democratically-led governments and imposed dictatorships before, including in Brazil.
Any idea that Trump is such a fervent defender of free speech, please.
We've documented all the ways Trump is attacking free speech in the name of Israel on American soil, expelling and deporting students for criticizing Israel, demanding hate speech codes for American campuses that would widen the range of prohibitions on things you can say about Israel, particularly Jewish individuals, by expanding the definition of anti-Semitism.
We've been over that before, but that was part of the article.
But the other part of the article is about how bizarre it is for Lua, of all people, to say, how dare you, a foreign country, interfere in our legal system because our legal system is so healthy and independent and vibrant and trustworthy.
When it was just five years ago when not Bolsonaro, but Lua was facing prosecution and his party asked for help from everywhere, including Arab countries, a member of Congress who's the president of Lua's party, one of his longtime associates, went on Algier and said, look, Lua's been a great friend to the Arab world.
We need you now to get Lua out of prison, to liberate him from prison.
Lua's lawyers went to the UN and said, Brazilian courts are fundamentally broken and politicized.
They cannot provide justice.
The same exact people on the court who Lua is now saying, oh, no, these are very reliable, upstanding people.
They don't need any outside supervision.
And the head of the Supreme Court in Brazil, Luis Barroso, admitted that he begged Biden to send the CIA to Brazil as part of the 2022 election to warn Bolsonaro not to question the accuracy of the election results.
And the CIA did come to Brazil, as did Jake Sullivan and other top Biden national security officials, to intervene in the 2022 election.
And the Supreme Court expressed gratitude for it.
Most of the Brazilian left said thank you.
So the idea that they don't want outside interference is preposterous.
But anyway, leave all that aside.
This week, yesterday, Maurice completely escalated this conflict, doing exactly the thing that Trump said was so disturbing, issuing censorship orders to Rumble, not for people in Brazil, but for people in the United States.
In this case, it's an American citizen.
One of the things that has been reported is that Brazil is trying to negotiate with the United States to bring down the temperature.
Brazil does not want tariffs.
It's not good for Brazil at all.
They're also not going to submit to Trump's demands and dismiss the charges against Bolsonaro, but they're trying to come up with a deal that just lets the two countries kind of return to more normalcy.
And whatever his intentions are, deliberate or not, what Alexander Medais did today is almost designed to make that impossible.
It explodes the temperature.
He issued a ruling to Rumble that, of course, he made confidential, as he always does.
But Rumble ran into the federal court with his cases pending against Marais to complain about it.
And it is an order forcing Rumble to do two things.
Number one, block the account of someone named Rodrigo Constantino, who's an American citizen.
He's also a Brazilian national, but an American citizen, who lives in the United States, to block his account for Brazil.
Now, the reason that's so bizarre is because, as I said, Rumble is already itself entirely blocked from Brazil.
So why would you have to block the account of American citizens on Rumble in Brazil when all of Brazil is already blocked and all of Rumble is already blocked in Brazil because of Maurai?
And also, Constantino, the target of this censorship order, hasn't used Rumble since 2023.
He's not even using it.
It seems like just a fight he's trying to pick with Rumble and American citizens.
But then he also ordered, beyond ordering Rumble to censor this account, this American citizen, he also ordered Rumble to turn over all of its data about this American citizen in the United States to this Brazilian court.
Obviously, Rumble's not going to do that.
Rumble's posture is very defiant.
It's basically a middle finger to him.
And they run into federal court to demand that they decree it has no enforcement in the United States.
But he's attacking the free speech rights of American citizens.
He's targeting and threatening American companies.
He told Rumble, if you don't do this immediately, you're not even going to get 50,000 ries fine a day, which is usually the fine.
It's going to be $100,000 raish this time, which is $20,000 a day.
Obviously, that adds up very quickly.
Rumble's not going to comply.
Here's the order.
You can see it on the screen.
I wish I could see it on my screen.
Is there maybe a way I could see it on my screen?
So there you see it on the screen.
It's from the STF, which is The federal Supreme Court of Brazil, and it's addressed to Rumble, July 11th, and it says, pursuant to a confidential decision rendered in this case, I hereby inform you that I have ordered within 48 hours the total blocking throughout the national territory of the channels,
profiles, accounts listed below under penalty of a daily fine of $100,000, which is $20,000 a day, and that that account information must be provided to the Supreme Court and all that content must be preserved.
And the account is the account of Rodrigo Constantino, who as I said, is an American citizen living in the United States.
And the amazing thing is not just that they're ordering his account blocked, which again would make no sense.
Why would you have to issue an order when nothing in Rumble, including my show, is available in Brazil?
All of Rumble as a platform is blocked.
So why would you have to issue an order ordering him specifically blocked unless you're trying to show the Trump administration all not only issue orders, censorship orders, but all aimed at American citizens in the U.S. What are you going to do about it?
But also order Rumble to turn over all data about him.
Like, why would Rumble do that?
Now, here's the page of the account.
There you see his name, Rodrigo Constantino.
Tudum means everything, so it's like everything about Constantino.
He only has 2,400 followers, 2,400 followers on Rumble.
This is his Rumble page.
And I don't know if it has the dates here, but the last time, the last video is 2023, late 2023, so he hasn't even used it for a year and a half.
This is this Brazilian judge, intentionally or not, picking a major fight with the United States government, with Donald Trump, and with American citizens, right after Trump imposed a 50% tariff on Brazil.
Here's the Rio Times, which is an English-language, Brazil-based newspaper that reported this, quote, Rumble and Trump media challenge Brazilian judge again in the U.S. court over data demand.
Rumble and Trump media are fighting a single high-profile lawsuit in a U.S. federal court against Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alejandro de Maraje.
The dispute centers on Maraje's order that Rumble block the account of commentator Rodrigo Constantino, who now holds U.S. citizenship, and provide his personal data to Brazilian authorities.
Constantino's situation is not a separate case, but a key part of this broader legal action.
Rumble argues that following Marais's demand would break U.S. privacy laws, including the Stored Communications Act.
The company also says the order sent by email rather than through official international channels does not have legal force in the U.S. Rumble's service has been blocked in Brazil since February 2025, and Constantino's account has not been active since late 2023.
Since 2022, Maraj has ordered nearly 150 social media accounts suspended, mostly those critical of Brazil's government.
Rumble and Trump Media claim that these actions amount to censorship that reaches beyond Brazil's borders and violates rights protected by U.S. law.
Constantino, needless to say, is a very vocal critic of Alejandro de Maraes and of the Brazilian Supreme Court.
And now suddenly he's ordering them censored and silenced.
By the way, Constantino announced in January that he had a very rare form of lymphoma.
Maraesh had blocked all of his bank accounts.
I believe it was reported at least.
I don't know for sure.
I think Maraesh unblocked one of them to allow him to pay for his cancer treatments.
It's just so sadistic and cruel, but on top of that, it's so senseless in one way.
Because as I said, Rumble's never going to comply.
Maraesh knows that.
They're not going to hand over personal data to Brazil to a Brazilian judge.
If they did, they would be in violation of U.S. law, arguably, without a subpoena, without any legal instrument, just handing data over about a user to a foreign government.
Rumble can't comply, even if it could, it wouldn't, because it actually believes in free speech.
And it makes no sense except to show Donald Trump and even to show other Brazilians who seem to want to find a way out of this conflict.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
I'm going to basically drop a huge bomb on everybody because now I'm going to issue an order specifically directed at an American citizen in the United States, an American social media company.
I'm going to threaten the American social media company that they had better block that account and turn over to me all data about this American citizen, their user.
This is a judge completely out of control.
He's completely drunk on his authoritarianism.
And a conflict between him and the United States government has been a long time coming when he banned acts and took the money out of Starlink's account.
He got musk said, you're going to be in prison soon, mark my words.
And he also is somebody who a lot of people in the United States and the Republican Party in Congress and various Brazilians who have connections to Trump, the Trump circle, have been urging Trump to sanction him personally, his financial transactions, his credit cards, his bank accounts, his travel.
And that was, I think, what a lot of Bolsonaro supporters wanted Trump to do.
They didn't necessarily want him to oppose 50% tariff because they're now being blamed for it.
I think they wanted the sanctions, but it seems like he almost wants the sanctions to come.
And now they pretty much have to.
I mean, he just stood up and said, screw American citizens, screw American free speech, screw your anger over what I've been doing.
I'm going to go way further now.
And major credit to Rumble, and I say that not because I'm on it, but because it's just true.
They have never capitulated to government censorship orders, even when it means that they and their own interests are going to be sacrificed.
They're going to lose access to major markets like France and Brazil.
They just won't censor.
They will not obey government dictates to censor.
And that's the kind of company we need more of.
That's what will preserve free speech on the internet.
That's the reason why we took our show here.
The major reason is because of Rumble's values that I always believed in were authentic.
And I have no doubt about that now the more I've watched them.
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