Palantir EXPOSED: Spying on Americans & Expanding the Privatized Deep State
Glenn Greenwald exposes Palantir's role as the new, privatized Deep State as the mysterious company expands its reach into government surveillance and warfare. Plus: Who is Palantir's CEO, Alex Karp, and what is motivating him to produce this all-powerful technology? ---------------------------------------------------- Watch full episodes on Rumble, streamed LIVE 7pm ET. Become part of our Locals community Follow System Update: Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook LinkedIn
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Good evening, it's Monday, June 9th.
Very happy to be back after a couple of weeks of traveling through the US.
A very uneventful and ordinary Tonight!
And I also want to welcome you to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday at 7 p.m.
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One of the central grievances among the American right over the last decade, a grievance I have long shared, were the grave dangers posed by the secretive deep state, as well as its accompanying system of mass surveillance aimed at the American population.
What had long been a core concern of the American left for decades previously gained space and credibility among many on the American right for multiple reasons, including the obvious weaponization of those powers for political ends and the abuse of those powers particularly to target and undermine Donald Trump, his campaigns, his administrations, and his movement.
As a result, overthrowing this deep state order, and were radically reforming it, was one of the top two or three promises core to the MAGA movement.
Several of Donald Trump's earliest picks to lead the agencies most responsible for these powers were longtime critics of these abuses, and were thus promising signs to many of his seriousness in rooting out these abuses.
People like Tulsi Gabbard, to be the Director of National Intelligence, and Kash Patel as FBI Director, and Matt Gaetz as Attorney General.
We're all so controversial in Washington precisely because they did not emerge from these agencies and were not expected to protect and perpetuate those agencies, but rather to cleanse and reform their worst and most longstanding abuses.
But the focus on Trump's choices to lead these federal agencies has often obscured one vital fact about the deep state and about the surveillance state which it has constructed.
Much of the sinister work is carried out increasingly not by public agencies but by privatized intelligence and military contractors who not only now develop and oversee the weapons used against the American people but profit greatly from doing so.
This is not new.
That was the model warned about, of course, by Dwight Eisenhower in his 1961 farewell address, where he notably referred not to the dangers of the Pentagon, but to the military-industrial complex, precisely to emphasize the vital role that privatized and corporatized interests were playing in what should be government functions.
That component of that formulation, the privatization, the corporatization, has only grown vastly, exponentially in the 75 years since that warning was issued.
As the Trump administration now takes form after several months, there is no doubt about the big winner of the sweepstakes to become the head of the new privatized deep state.
It is the firm called Palantir, first founded in 2002 by the billionaire Peter Thiel and the multibillionaire Alex Karp.
Back then, to capitalize on the opportunities of surveillance and militarization that they perceived correctly were presented by the war on terror.
And they have now become absolutely central, one could say virtually omnipotent, within the Trump administration and its various intelligence and military apparatus.
As a result, understanding what Palantir is, what its capabilities are, what its driving ideology has become, are really indispensable to understanding whether this deep state and surveillance state part of our government is really being reformed and constrained.
Or whether it is simply being privatized in a far more concentrated, technologically sophisticated, powerful, and sinister way than ever before.
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As I mentioned at the top, somewhat sardonically, the last two weeks being so uneventful.
In fact, as you probably know, there was an event, a sort of politically motivated attack on me that took the form of trying to divulge aspects of my private life.
As I said back then, immediately, and as I continue to maintain, that has no relevance to me at all.
I don't feel I owe any explanation to anybody about things that I do in my private life.
That's why I think that attack was so ineffective, and I don't intend to comment on it now.
Nonetheless, as part of our after show, which we will do only for our local members, streaming only on the local site, I do have some commentary.
Kind of meta-commentary about that episode, some of the issues that it raises, things about morality and private lives and how those are weaponized, all variety of other issues that I think emerged, including what I think was the very surprising, almost unified defense.
Of me and the attack on these attempts to weaponize private life in a way that I thought was very reeling across the political spectrum, not just in the United States, but also in Brazil.
So I think there's a lot of meta issues that are worth exploring.
I don't want to do that publicly because I don't want to talk about this issue much.
I think it's already passed.
I don't think it ever deserved any public attention.
So just for our local members, I do think it would be odd not to talk about it.
For those of you who might be interested in my thoughts and reflections over the last couple of weeks, we are going to provide that to you soon.
This is our show here on the Rumble Channel ends.
We're gonna move within just a couple minutes to the Locals platform where we will have, I don't know, maybe 20 minutes or so of live streaming where I can share with you some of my thoughts.
For now, welcome to a new episode of System Update starting right now.
System Update The sinister part of our government that has become known as the deep state or the secretive part of our government, the intelligence community, the surveillance state, lots of different names for it.
Everyone knows, of course, what it is that we're talking about.
We're talking about the part of the government that was created after World War II, created by Harry Truman's 1947 National Security Act that created, among other things, the precursor to the CIA, all kinds of new powers vested in the government.
Under the guise of combating communism and the rise of the Soviet Union after World War II, and it became this kind of monster and Frankenstein that continued to grow and grow and grow far beyond what anyone ever envisioned it would be.
In fact, it became so powerful so quickly that only 14 years later in 1961, Dwight Eisenhower, who needless to say was no leftist, five-star general and national hero, concluded that Those agencies have become so secretive and so out of control and so rogue that they were becoming more powerful even than the office of the presidency.
Oftentimes they were acting without his knowledge, without his approval, even by deceiving him.
And it wasn't just the public agencies.
It was their union with the military corporations and the intelligence contractors that were forming this complex that was anti-democratic at its core.
And over the decades, we've seen over and over, How these powers were misused throughout the 1960s against various social justice movements, through the 70s where there was finally supposed to be some reform in the form of the Church Commission in 1977 that was really more symbolic than anything else.
Things like creating a Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee or the FISA Court designed to control the way the government can spy on American citizens.
And yet through the 80s and the 90s, these powers only fortified.
These supposed safeguards became more and more illusory.
And then once the war on terror happened, all bets were off.
The reliance by the Bush-Cheney administration first and then by the Obama administration led to an expansion and explosion of these powers.
That were previously unimaginable, even by the people warning about them in the 60s and the 70s, in part because, I would say primarily because, they ceased being directed outward at our adversaries or even our allies, and instead became directed inward at American citizens in violation of the Constitution.
And the more that happened, the more acceptable it became, the more it expanded, the more it grew to the point where by 2016 we saw very clearly how much the CIA and the FBI and the NSA were willing to interfere directly in our national elections and our domestic politics through all sorts of domestic propaganda.
And that was when concerns about this part of the government, concerns about this agency morphed from being primarily a left-wing Focus, which happened because a lot of left-wing movements were targeted by them in the '60s and '70s.
It was always kind of a- Anti-federal government strain of the American right that also was deeply concerned about the NSA and about the powers of federal agencies and the standing armies and law enforcement and armed agents of the state that the federal government maintained permanently that were never supposed to be part of the design of our government.
But by and large, the Republican establishment, the American conservative movement, largely had been defending that until they began to see very clearly as well.
Principally because of how those powers were abused to spy on the Trump campaign, to spread propaganda and lies and artificial scandals like Russiagate and the lies about the Hunter Biden laptop and all sorts of other things to sabotage the Trump campaign, to sabotage the Trump presidency, just how out of control and how politicized.
And that created a serious sentiment among, I would say, mainstream conservatism that the surveillance state, the deep state, the secretive part of our government.
Was so out of control and that one of the top priorities of a new Trump administration was going to be and must be to clean that out, to rein that in, to constrain it back to what its real function is supposed to be.
In the case of the FBI, doing real law enforcement against actual violent criminals or organized gangs or organized crime, not spying on and trying to criminalize your political opponents and your political enemies.
In the case of the NSA, spying on foreign terrorist organizations.
Or other kind of international criminal organizations not spying on American citizens without the warrants required by law.
In the case of the CIA, focusing on collecting intelligence to inform the president, not interfering in and trying to manipulate and manufacture scandals for our own domestic politics.
This became central to what the Trump movement said it wanted, what Donald Trump and his new victory in 2024 represented.
And as I said, several of Donald Trump's choices to lead these agencies were clearly designed to send a signal that we're not going to pick people from these agencies who are indoctrinated in the ways that they exercise power, who are going to be there to just simply defend the prerogatives of the agencies.
We're going to choose outsiders, people who have been critical of the way in which these powers have been abused, in order to go in and start clearing them out, cleaning them out.
And those notably became the most controversial choices of Donald Trump's cabinet, not the people who wanted to perpetuate the status quo, not the people who were comfortable within these agencies and the powers that they exercised and the way they functioned, but the people who were designed to be outsiders to radically transform them.
People like RFK Jr. when it came to health and human services, but then Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel and Matt Gaetz for attorney general, the people who were clearly there to radically root it out.
And that was a promising sign on the part of the Trump administration that that was something they intended to do.
I think, though, two things got overlooked in all of that.
One is the obvious tendency of people who oppose abuses of power when they're out of power, who believe that power needs to be constrained because it's exercised by their political opponents or in the hands of their political enemies and so insist that this power needs to be restrained.
There's always a tendency, once people get back into power, to want to use the power to preserve it.
Even to expand it and to believe that they're doing so in the name of something more noble and just and benevolent and less abusive, which is always one of the main challenges of using our two-party system to try and radically reform the government, namely that people out of power have all the reason in the world to oppose and to object to certain powers inherent in the federal government, but when they get into office, there's a tendency to want to use those.
That's always a danger.
But I think the much bigger danger is that, and this is probably something that wasn't emphasized enough, perhaps even by our show, is that so much of this surveillance state, so much of the deep state, the military and intelligence functions are overseen and manufactured not by federal agencies, as they ought to be.
These are state powers, and they ought to be subject to state control.
To government agencies that are subject to the laws and transparency requirements and democratic accountability, at least in theory, being overseen by Congress and the courts.
Instead, over the last couple of decades especially, they have been increasingly privatized so that the actual entities that have run our military and run our intelligence agency is not the NSA or the Pentagon.
It is Booz Allen Hamilton or Boeing or Northrop Grumman or Raytheon.
And sometimes they send their own executives into those agencies to make sure that their prerogatives are protected.
Joe Biden's Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, came right from the border of Raytheon.
So it is a very integrated system of power, but in many ways, it's the privatized function of this system that often reigns supreme.
And there's always, as a result, a very intense competition, not because of the power it bestows only, but especially because of the profits that it generates for whoever gets to be the primary contractor, the primary corporatized weapon of the deep state.
So you can reform the rules of these agencies, you can change the personnel, but as long as you have the There really isn't any reform.
In fact, the opposite is true.
You will get continuous abuses.
Maybe the names will change.
Maybe now it's not Booz Allen Hamilton.
Maybe it's now Palantir.
But the system itself doesn't really change.
And we have seen signs from the White House, and there's good reason to have seen this coming.
A lot of people who are very closely aligned with, have been invested in, closely connected to the people who run these corporations, especially Palantir, became instrumental in financing the Trump campaign, who played a major role in the transition at Mar-a-Lago.
And you could kind of see the signs that while A lot of people were railing against the old guard of the military industrial complex, Boeing and Northrop Grimm and those types.
A more technologically sophisticated kind of newer version of the corporatized surveillance state was starting to gain power within the Trump world for all sorts of reasons that they had schemed and planned for, devoted a lot of money to Trump's campaign.
And I think we're now clearly seeing the fruits of that, and it's time to really take a close look at exactly what is happening, principally with a corporation called Palantir at the center of it all.
And it's not just Palantir replacing other older versions of what might look like the old guard of the military industrial complex.
Palantir itself is a very extremist company in all sorts of ways, in terms of their vision of the future, in terms of the ethical constraints they do and don't believe in.
And most of all because of the ideology that their leaders, that their founders, that the people who run Palantir and now run various parts of the surveillance state and military industrial complex vehemently and passionately believe in and obviously are using those powers to advance those beliefs in a way that I think has gotten way too little attention.
So let's begin with the
One of them was an executive order issued by the White House and unveiled on March 20th, 2025, so two months after Donald Trump's inauguration, the headline of which was Stopping Waste, Fraud, and Abuse by Eliminating Information Silos.
In other words, the problem, according to the new White House, is information is not centralized enough.
You have some information over here, segregated over here, some segregated over here, some surveillance data here, some under this agency.
And they describe that as wasteful, and what they want to do is to centralize it all under one authority.
I personally would prefer that to the extent the government collects data on American citizens, it remain fragmented and siloed and therefore weakened.
But the point of this executive order was to describe that as wasteful and to restructure the government to ensure its centralization, meaning its consolidated control under a handful of specific actors who would be in charge of it.
Quote, by the authority vested in me as president, by the constitutional laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered, quote, Section 1, Purpose, Removing Unnecessary Barriers to Federal Employees Accessing Government Data.
Just let me emphasize that and a part of this has to do with trying to empower what was known as Doge that the idea was we had to ensure that the Doge team wasn't impeded in their ability to collect information that instead they had access to everything and so here you see that the The idea is to make certain to eliminate bureaucratic duplication and
inefficiency by ensuring that there are no more barriers to federal employees accessing government data.
I'm not sure if we can highlight that part or not.
We'll see in a second, but I wanted to really draw out that language because it seems so bureaucratically benign, but at the same time, it's very candid about what it's attempting to do.
It then goes on, section three, eliminating information silos.
Agency heads shall take all necessary steps to the maximum extent consistent with law to ensure that federal officials designated by the president or agency heads have full and prompt access to all unclassified information records, data, software systems, and information technology systems.
It goes on, quote, "Agency heads shall take all necessary steps to the maximum extent consistent with law to ensure the federal government has unfettered access to comprehensive data from all state programs that receive federal funding.
Moreover, the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary's designee shall receive to the maximum extent Consistent with law, unfettered access to all unemployment data and related payment methods, including all such data and records currently available to the Department of Labor's Office of Inspector General.
Now, like most government programs, this could have a very benign intent, and it's described to appear benign.
It's saying, look, there's some inefficiencies.
We need to analyze all the data.
Unfortunately, the data is all siloed.
It's all in different places, and we want to make sure that we eliminate all of the barriers to accessing all of it.
We want to make sure that designated entities, whether public like Doge or private like private contractors, no longer experience impediments in collecting all of the information and centralizing it all for whatever purposes they want to use that information.
Now, as I said, one of the primary impetus for this was to make sure that the team of Doge that was designed to analyze waste and the like didn't have any further impediments to their ability to get at some of the most sensitive data about American citizens.
Here's how CNN reported that in April of 2025.
Quote, Doge is building a master database for immigration enforcement, sources say.
Staffers from Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency are building a master database to speed up immigration enforcement and deportations by combining sensitive data from access across the federal government.
Multiple sources familiar with the plans.
Tell CNN, Palantir, a Silicon Valley data analytics company co-founded by a Musk ally that has been used by immigration officials before for criminal investigations, is involved in building out the database.
The company has long been ingesting and processing data from ICE and DHS sources.
The latest endeavor, however, is expected to go further by identifying people with civil immigration violations.
Palantir is already a well-known government contractor, including at the IRS, so it would be a logical choice for the Doge teams to utilize it.
A senior IRS official said, adding that, quote, it would be easy to change the scope of existing contracts and pay Palantir to do this stuff.
Quote, they're going to take the information we already have and put it into a system, a Trump administration official told CNN about Doge's plans.
It will be able to rapidly queue information everyone is converting to Palantir.
So that's the Trump administration's motto for what this reform is.
Everyone is converting To Palantir, meaning all of this data collection, all of this data mining, all of this access to information is all going to be done through Palantir, through devices and systems created by Palantir, implemented by Palantir, overseen by Palantir.
Now, obviously, one reaction is to say, "Well, this seems like a good idea.
I want people I want them to more readily identify fraud.
And so I have no problem with a system designed to centralize all this information to make it easier to achieve these noble ends.
The problem is that is always how expansion of the surveillance state and expansion of the deep state is justified.
They always give you a reason.
Why they're doing it for your own protection.
Why they're doing it for some good cause.
All of those programs ushered in in the wake of 9-11 and by the Bush and Cheney administration, the Patriot Act, warrantless surveillance on American citizens, the vast elimination of barriers designed to protect the privacy rights of Americans, all of that was justified in the name of finding terrorists more easily.
We didn't find terrorists on 9-11, even though we had all the reason And all the evidence and all the data in the world that should have let us find it, we failed to.
And so instead of holding people accountable, instead of making sure that we're looking more closely for terrorists, instead of all sorts of other things, we're going to claim that we didn't have enough powers.
We didn't have enough spying powers.
We didn't have enough data mining powers.
And we're going to tell the American people, look, we're going to collect information in a much more aggressive way, including about you.
But don't worry, we're just doing it because we want to make sure to keep you safe from the terrorists.
That was how the Patriot Act was justified.
Yes, we know this seems very extreme.
We know this seems like an extraordinary leap in the powers that the U.S. government is supposed to have.
But don't worry, it's necessary because the only thing we're going to use this for is for good things.
We're going to use it to not to spy on dissidents.
Not to keep the American population under a microscope.
We're going to use it just to make sure that we can catch terrorists and terrorism plots more readily.
And if you look at how the Patriot Act has been used ever since it was implemented, ever since that justification was furnished that convinced a lot of people to support it, you will find that only in a small minority of cases has the Patriot Act been invoked in connection with terrorism investigations.
It has been used in a wide range of other sorts of efforts to investigate the American people, to keep track of them, to give to law enforcement.
I know for the first 10 years the percentage of cases of actual terrorism investigation that the Patriot Act was used for was extremely small.
I'm talking about 10 to 12, 15 percent.
So of course they're going to offer you Good reasons why Palantir needs to collect and consolidate all this information under its control.
Oh, we're looking for illegal immigrants.
We're looking for criminals and the ability to have all this information under one company and eliminate all the barriers that were there to keep, preserve the privacy rights of Americans from living in an omnipotent surveillance state.
Those are bothersome.
Those are impediments to the policy goals that we want to address.
We're going to have it all put under this one company called Palantir.
As I said, everything, everyone is converting to Palantir, is the exact quote.
Now, this didn't get much attention at the time.
In the Trump administration, there's constantly all sorts of things going on.
You have wars going on.
You have attempts to avoid war like in Iran.
You have all kinds of new domestic policies.
There was controversies about deporting students who criticize Israel.
All sorts of things just constantly going around.
And so when the Trump administration says everything is going through Palantir, not enough people really paid much attention to that.
Now people are starting to wonder, wait a minute, what is exactly the role of Palantir?
Who is Palantir and what do they intend to do?
The New York Times ran a story just a couple weeks ago, May 30th, the title of which was Trump Taps Palantir to Compile Data on Americans.
QUOTE, "THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS EXPANDED PALANTIER'S WORK ACROSS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN RECENT MONTHS.
THE COMPANY HAS RECEIVED MORE THAN $113 MILLION IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING SIN MENSURE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE, ACCORDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM EXISTING CONTRACTS AS WELL AS NEW CONTRACTS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE PENTAGON.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE A $795 MILLION CONTRACT THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AWARDED THE the company last week, which has not been spent.
The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including DHS and the Health and Human Services Department.
When you think about your rights, your privacy rights, there are few privacy rights more sacred than things about your health or your family's health or the treatments you seek.
And obviously Homeland Security has enormous databases that was created in 2002.
This department was once controversial, like most things that were once controversial.
Everyone just accepts that we now have a Department of Homeland Security, even though we previously never needed one.
Including the Cold War, during the Cold War.
And so just two of the agencies where Foundry and Palantir Products are being now secretly placed contain among the most invasive and sweeping information about the American population.
And remember, this is all being done in the context of a political movement, of an administration that vowed to reign all this in.
To ensure that the government wasn't spying on people anymore, that they didn't have the ability to abuse its powers of surveillance in order to harm political enemies, in order to harm other people.
The article goes on, quote, While that paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said, Palantir's selection as a chief vendor for the project was driven by Elon Musk's Doge, according to the government officials.
At least three Doge members formerly worked at Palantir, while two others had worked at companies funded by Peter Thiel, an investor and founder of Palantir.
Palantir has long worked with the federal government.
Its government contracts span the Department of Defense and the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
During the pandemic, the Bush administration signed a contract, I'm sorry, the Biden administration signed a contract with Palantir to manage the distribution of vaccines through the CDC.
At the IRS, Palantir engineers joined in April to use Foundry to organize data gathered on American taxpayers, two government officials said.
So they're also at the CDC and the IRS.
The IRS being the agency that most aggressively and invasively tracks all of your financial data, all of your earnings, all of your assets.
Their work began as a way to create a single searchable database for the IRS, but has since expanded, they said.
A Treasury Department representative said that the IRS was uploading its systems to serve American taxpayers and that Palantir was contracted to complete the work with IRS engineers.
The goal of uniting data on Americans has been quietly discussed by Palantir engineers, employees said, adding that they were worried about collecting so much sensitive data in one place.
The company's security practices are only as good as the people using them, they said.
They characterized some Doge employees as sloppy on security and as not following protocols in how personal devices were used.
Now, this is one of the things that I recall during the Snowden controversy and the reporting and the debates that it spawned, this extreme irony that we were able to reveal how invasive, how sweeping.
How limitless the information was that the NSA, unbeknownst to everybody, was collecting on American citizens without the warrants required by the constitutional law.
And I remember very well one day the NSA kind of trying to scope around for different excuses said, "Oh, don't worry.
We're very, very vigilant." In the security measures that we use, we keep your data very, very safe.
You don't have to worry.
Of course, one of the reasons that was not a very satisfactory answer was the concern was that the NSA itself was going to abuse that information and had done so.
But also, it was very hard to say that, oh, don't worry, these security systems are so unbreakable, so reliable, when Edward Snowden had just right under their noses, We've taken enormous amounts of that data without having any slight idea on the part of the NSA that they had done so.
So, so much of this sounds familiar.
Oh, don't worry, we are centralizing all data about you in an unprecedented way.
It's not just some of it's at the NSA, some of it's at the IRS, some of it's at CDC, some of it's at Homeland Security.
We're now centralizing all of those agencies in one private company, Palantir.
We're being asked to believe that Palantir's goals are benevolent, the people running Palantir are going to handle this information responsibly and without abuse, and that somehow this information will be kept safe so that others who have more malevolent intentions are incapable of using it.
I think it's very important to note that Palantir was founded in 2002, because obviously that was At the height of the war on terror when people began to see not just the potential for government empowerment through a surveillance state, but also privatized surveillance, which was and became a massive booming industry.
And if we could just go back a little bit to 2002, there was an event that happened at the time that I think a lot of people have forgotten about.
It's involving John Poindexter, so if we could go back to the prior document.
John Poindexter had been a government official in the Reagan and Bush administrations, Bush 41, and he was very controversial because he was central to the Iran-Contra scandal.
He ended up as one of the more disgraced figures of that scandal.
For those of you who don't know, in brief, Congress had passed a law saying that the U.S. government was barred from funding rebel groups in Central America.
Because we were trying to overthrow governments there.
It was a very bloody war.
So Congress passed a law prohibiting the use of funds for financing basically terrorist groups that we were funding in order to overthrow governments, in order to maintain control of El Salvador, the Contras in Nicaragua.
And the Reagan administration security apparatus decided they didn't care about that law.
They wanted to ignore that law.
They wanted to fund the Contras and other They had proxy groups in Central America anyway, but they couldn't get the money from Congress because Congress banned it.
And so they instead sold arms, very sophisticated arms, to Iran, very sophisticated missiles and arms secretly.
They sold it to the Iranian regime, took the money from that sale, and then gave it to Nicaragua and El Salvador and the other groups Congress had barred them from funding.
And John Poindexter was at the center of this.
He kind of became disgraced.
And yet, in 2002, the Bush administration decided to create one of the creepiest-sounding agencies that you could possibly imagine.
It was called the Office of Information Awareness.
And there you see it on the screen.
This is from 2002, the overview of the Information Awareness Office.
And here was Dr. John Poindexter who And as they described it, the idea was to have total information awareness.
I think we have the text here.
It's called As they described it, quote, total information awareness, a proto-system, is our answer.
We must be able to detect, classify, identify, and track terrorists so that we may understand their plans and act to prevent those from being executed.
To protect our rights, we must ensure that our systems track the terrorists and those that mean us harm.
And it talks about how these programs are focused on making total information awareness TIA real.
It's a high-level, visionary, functional view of the worldwide system, somewhat oversimplified, one of the significant new data sources that needs to be mined to discover and track terrorists in the transaction space.
And even for 2002, when people were almost accepting every kind of authoritarian measure offered because they were justified by, oh, don't worry, we're just using this to protect terrorists.
We're not going to use it against you.
Your rights aren't endangered.
Creating an office of total information awareness as the name, led by Dr. John Poindexter under the auspices of Donald Rumsfeld, even that was a bridge too far, even for 2002.
But it was very revealing of the limitless aspirations that the U.S. government had and knew that they could exploit 9 /11 in order to create.
Essentially telling the American people that we can't see, we can't have any more limits on our ability to collect information about you.
And out of that grew this office called Total Information Awareness that although the office was named.
In just too much of an Orwellian and creepy way for the American population, the American media to accept, became the ambition of the U.S. government.
That is what ultimately led to the NSA programs that were designed to collect all information on American citizens without warrants to file it, to store it, to be able to analyze it.
That became the mindset of not just the U.S. government, but of corporations seeking to become The providers of the technology that would enable it and the vastly lucrative contracts that would come from that.
And it was in that ethos, in that time period, seeking to exploit that opportunity that Peter Thiel and Alex Karp created Palantir to become this newly agile, highly sophisticated version of a company that had unprecedented power to collect.
and store and data-bine information about hundreds of millions of people.
That is the impetus that gave rise And that primary mission is now being fulfilled, I think, beyond anyone's wildest dreams, given that the Trump administration is empowering them to be the company,
the deep state surveillance state company through which all Information that the U.S. government maintains about American citizens is run through and stored through and is managed by one company essentially overseeing the entire information collecting apparatus of the U.S. government.
Here from the Intelligentsia magazine, this is back in 2020, September 2020.
Is Palantir's crystal ball just smoke and mirrors?
And here's the text.
Back in 2003, John Poindexter got a call from Richard Pearl.
For those of you who don't remember, Richard Pearl was sort of like the darkest of dark neocons.
An old friend from their days serving together in the Reagan administration, Pearl, one of the architects of the Iraq War, which started that year, wanted to introduce Poindexter to a couple of Silicon Valley entrepreneurs who were starting a software company.
This firm, Palantir Technologies, was helping to pull together data collected by a wide range of spy agencies.
Everything from human intelligence and cell phone calls to travel records and financial transactions to help identify and stop terrorists planning attacks on the United States.
Who had been forced to resign as Reagan's national security advisor over his role in the Iran-Contra scandal, wasn't exactly the kind of starry-eyed idealist who usually appeals to Silicon Valley visionaries.
Returning to the Pentagon after the 9 /11 attacks, he had begun researching ways to develop a data mining program that was as spooky as its name.
Total information awareness.
His work, dubbed a "Super Snoop's Dream" by conservative colonist William Sapphire.
was a precursor to the National Security Agency's sweeping surveillance program that were exposed a decade later by Edward Snowden, yet Poindexter was precisely the person Peter Thiel and Alex Karp, the co-founders of Palantir, wanted to meet.
Their new company was similar in ambition to what Poindexter had tried to create at the Pentagon, and they wanted to pick the brain of the man now widely viewed as the godfather of modern surveillance.
"Poindexter told me he had suggested to Carpentier "that they partner with one of the companies "that worked on total information awareness.
"But the two men weren't interested.
"Quote, they were a bunch of young, arrogant guys," "Poindexter said, and they were convinced "that they could do it all." And I guess on some level, that arrogance ended up being vindicated because now, just a couple of decades later, they are in exactly the position that 10 years ago we revealed that the NSA was in.
That created so much controversy.
And the fact that there was such a strong reaction across the political spectrum, such a strong revulsion to the idea that the NSA had the ability and exercised that ability to collect data on all Americans, something this part of our government was never supposed to do,
collect dossiers on American citizens en masse, is now being done by a kind of sketchy and shady It's something that I think quite obviously merits
far more attention about what Palantir is, what it believes, and what it's doing.
Back in 2020, the New York Times also published an article with this question, does Palantir see too much?
The tech giant helps governments and law enforcement decipher vast amounts of data to mysterious and some say dangerous ends.
Quote, the company Palantir Technologies is named after the seeing stories in J.R.R.
Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings.
Its two primary software programs, Gotham and Foundry, Alex Karp claims a loftier ambition, however.
The brainchild of Karp's friend and law school classmate Peter Thiel, Palantir, was founded in 2003.
It was succeeded in part by In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital arm.
And the CIA remains a client of Palantir.
These days, Palantir is used for counterterrorism by a number of Western governments.
Quote, I believe that Western civilization has rested on our somewhat smaller shoulders a couple of times in the last 15 years, Karp told me in Paris.
Over the years, Palantir has become embroiled in several controversies that have raised doubts about its trustworthiness.
In 2011, the hacker collective Anonymous released emails that it had taken from a third party showing that Palantir employees were involved in a proposed misinformation campaign to discredit WikiLeaks and to smear some of its supporters, notably Glenn Greenwald.
Though no one was fired, Carr personally apologized to Greenwald.
When I asked Karp about the episode, he chalked it up to, quote, Palantir was also implicated in the Cambridge Analytic scandal.
Christopher Wilde, the former Cambridge Analytic employee turned whistleblower, claimed that Palantir helped the firm harvest Facebook data that was then used on behalf of the Trump campaign.
Palantir, which has a policy of not working on elections, said the matter involved just one employee in London and that the person was fired.
Although Karp's political views are widely shared in Silicon Valley, he is one of the tech industry's unlikeliest chief executives.
He co-founded Palantir with no background in computer sciences or business.
Instead, he holds a law degree from Stanford and a doctorate in social theory from Goethe University in Frankfurt, where for a time his thesis advisor was Juergen Habermas, possibly Europe's most celebrated living social Now, I do want to say that Alex Karp, though, in 2020, was depicted as this sort of unlikely, almost apolitical, cryptic figure.
He has actually become, over time, his politics have become remarkably clear.
Now, I just want to comment, too, as well, on this situation that I was personally involved in with Palantir's abuses, because this was quite a long time ago.
This was 2011.
2012, I believe.
But I do think it sheds a lot of light into what Palantir is, what it was even back then, when it still had a fairly good reputation.
And the story that that article referenced involving me happened because of this.
There were a lot of rumors that WikiLeaks was on the verge of releasing a huge and incriminating file about the Bank of America.
Obviously one of America's largest banks.
I think maybe now its largest bank, commercial bank.
And the Bank of America was, understandably, quite alarmed by what was rumored to be an imminent, extremely incriminating release of secret Bank of America files of the kind that WikiLeaks back then was doing regularly, not just to governments but to other corporations.
And in response, Bank of America hired several firms to help it strategize about what it should do.
In response to WikiLeaks' release of it.
And one of the groups that it hired to help it strategize was Palantir.
And a group of hackers were able to hack a company that was also hired called H.B. Gary.
And the documents that were created by Palantir to help Bank of America against this WikiLeaks release were discovered and were disclosed.
And one of the documents that were created with Palantir's cooperation was dated September 3, 2010, and this is part of the strategy to help Bank of America against WikiLeaks.
Here's part of what they said, quote, One other thing, I think we need to highlight people like Glenn Greenwald.
Greenwald was critical in the Amazon to OH transition and helped WikiLeaks provide access to information during the transition.
It is this level of support that we need to attack.
These are established professionals that have a liberal bent.
But ultimately, most of them, if pushed, will choose professional preservation over cause.
This is what they were saying that they needed to exploit, that WikiLeaks'primary defenders, and I was the person they listed as one of the most...
They were saying these are professionals that have a liberal bent, but ultimately most of them, if pushed, will choose professional preservation over cause, much as the mentality of most business professionals.
Without the support of people like Glenn, WikiLeaks would fold.
So think about that, what they were actually saying there.
They were saying that they wanted to put people who were critical to the defense of WikiLeaks, the public defense of WikiLeaks, in a choice where either you could choose two things.
You could choose to continue to pursue the cause you believed in, which was defending WikiLeaks, or you could choose preservation of your professional reputation and professional standing.
But you couldn't choose both.
They wanted to put people like me in that position, saying, if you want to keep Defending WikiLeaks, we're going to destroy your professional reputation.
We're going to find things about you.
We're going to leak things about you.
In case any of you think this is sort of the stuff that is the byproduct of paranoia or science fiction scripts about how these kind of people work, here it is in black and white.
I have to admit, this was 2010, just about five years after I began writing about politics.
I was a little bit surprised, I will admit, by how sinister this is, kind of expressed in corporatist jargon.
But it shows what Palantir is.
They were saying we'll either force him to stop defending WikiLeaks or we'll destroy his career and his professional reputation.
By finding out things about him, by leaking things, by launching coordinated campaigns, that was their strategy for discrediting WikiLeaks, for weakening WikiLeaks in defense of and in service to their corporate client that had hired them, which is the Bank of America.
And then here's a reply from a Palantir person in the reply that says, quote, I like the strengths and weaknesses highlights.
Going to add those in.
I'll also add a, quote, spotlight on Glenn Greenwald, too.
Signed, Matthew Steckman, Palantir's technology forward deployed engineer.
Now, this did become public.
And at the time, Palantir was trying to build this branding of its new corporation, relatively new corporation still, as sort of a, yes, we are contractors to the intelligence agencies.
Yes, we work with the CIA and we serve the NSA and the Pentagon.
But we're the new version of military and intelligence contractors.
We're the ones who care about civil liberties.
And they were trying to recruit the top students from places like Stanford and Harvard and the University of Chicago by pitching themselves as, yes, we work with these agencies you think are bad, but we're the kind who do it but insist on civil liberties protections.
And once that document got revealed, And at the time, I was very much associated with civil liberties and probably the left.
It was very embarrassing to them.
It was very contradictory to the image they had spent a lot of time building.
And so, yes, Alex Karp at the time did call me personally and said, we deeply apologize for what this document was planning on.
It never got to the execution stage.
This is contrary to our values.
We hope you'll accept our apology.
They made the apology public because that was the whole point of it.
But I remember, of course, obviously, back then, thinking Palantir seems like a very sinister company.
How would I not think that?
How would anyone not think that when you read that document?
And they've only gotten more and more and more embedded into the intelligence apparatus, into the national security state, into the deep state, to the point where, as a result of these executive orders and this attempt to Make Palantir essentially omnipresent in our government.
They have reached the peak of their power, the kind of fulfillment of that total information awareness program that even back in 2002 was considered too extreme, even though it was just a few months after 9 /11.
Now, Peter Thiel, most of you know him.
He obviously supported Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020 and 2024.
He decided he wouldn't.
Though he's very, very close to J.D. Vance, J.D. Vance's personal wealth is due to his work with Peter Thiel.
And Thiel played a major role in financing J.D. Vance's Senate run in Ohio and also in securing Donald Trump's endorsement for J.D. Vance in what was a very contested Republican primary.
Obviously, Trump's endorsement Republican primary is essentially dispositive.
JD Vance owes a lot of his career.
He's very close allies to Peter Thiel, one of the founders of Palantir.
But at this point, Peter Thiel's involvement in Palantir is quite minimal.
The person who really runs Palantir is Alex Karp.
And despite the fact that he's worth many billions of dollars and runs this extremely influential and increasingly menacing Deep state entity that is becoming particularly powerful within the Trump administration very little attention has been paid to him in terms of who he is and what he thinks but I think with the growing influence of Palantir the kind of realization of the apex of its aspirations to become the omnipotent provider of government surveillance
and the technology that runs it and the data that collects it He's become very emboldened.
He's been speaking a lot more publicly about his belief system, the agenda that he believes in, the ideology he pursues.
He's far from some sort of neutral or apolitical technologist.
Very much the opposite.
He is a hardcore neocon, as devoted of a loyalist Israel as it gets.
He very much believes in the virtues and necessity of American war and American power.
And makes very clear that the goal of Palantir is to serve that and maximize it.
So I just want to show you a little bit about Alex Karp, the person who really is the sole controller and manager of Palantir, the company that, as we just showed you, is now playing such a central role, almost unprecedentedly powerful role.
In America's deep state and in its intelligence apparatus and security state.
Here from May of 2025, so just last month, is Alex Karp.
He was doing an event at the Ash Carter Exchange.
And here's part of what he said.
What I think is an often overlooked part of this battle is we kind of just think these things that are happening across college campus especially are like a sideshow.
No, they are the show.
Because if we lose the intellectual debate, you will not be able to deploy any army in the West ever.
And that's, and of course our adversary...
Speaking on CNBC, I just want to kind of show you what he speaks about, what he prioritizes.
Here he is proclaiming anti-Semitism in the United States, particularly the college protest against Israel to be one of the gravest problems.
And here's how he, here's a decree that he issued about all of that.
Most of America is horrified by what happened on October 7th.
Almost everyone in America is horrified by the dramatic rise of anti-Semitism, which does not receive the reaction it deserves.
And most Americans would like to see leadership on the Middle East.
I think part of the reason why leaders need to stand up is this is a very, very, very small minority of America.
They succeed in having an outsized impact simply because the rest of America thinks they're so idiotic that this can't actually be dangerous or true.
But it is dangerous and they do believe these things.
And if we do not speak up, they will continue to tell themselves this.
And there will be a sense on their side that it's okay to push the boundaries and push the boundaries and push the boundaries.
And so as heinous as what these people are saying is, it exists in part because there are not enough people saying this is really dumb, this is hatred and it will not be tolerant.
It would be, I think, sinister enough if somebody just completely apolitical.
Was at the helm of a privatized surveillance state as expansive and powerful and virtually limitless as Palantir now is?
But to have somebody who views protest movements against a foreign government to which he's loyal, Israel, harbors so much contempt and so much hatred for the people who are those protesters?
Does it seem like he's somebody who Is he inclined to use this surveillance power or in this data in very neutral and apolitical ways?
Or do you think he's somebody who feels so passionately about things like Israel that that information in his hands would almost certainly be weaponized against those who he thinks Are advocating an ideology that he regards as evil or dangerous?
I think the question, to ask the question, is to answer it.
Here from the New York Post, more on Alex Karp.
The Palantir CEO says that the Columbia protesters should do, quote, exchange program in North Korea.
Just to give you a sense of Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel in November of 2024, and as I said, he doesn't run the company, but he still is influential within Palantir.
He spoke with, you'll never guess who, Barry Weiss.
And she asked him about, you'll never guess what, Israel.
And here's what Peter Thiel said about his view of the U.S. and Israel.
I don't know.
I don't think the U.S. and Israel are perfectly in sync.
But I do think that if we simply deferred to Israel.
And on things related to the Middle East, we'd have a far saner policy.
We'd have a far more realistic policy.
So that's it.
So that's their view is, that's Peter Thiel's view is, we just need to defer to Israel.
Look, we're not always going to be on the same page, but the best thing to do, defer to Israel.
Have Israel tell us what they want and give it to them.
Have Israel tell us what they want us to do and do it.
Let's just defer to Israel and we'll be much better off.
In late 2023, Palantir announced a policy which you would think would have created a lot of anger and opposition among the American right because it was as pure of an example of what is now called DEI, or job set-asides, as you could possibly imagine.
And yet people like Ben Shapiro and Barry Weiss both instantly cheered it as soon as it was announced because it's the kind of DEI that they really like.
But it also shows you how Palantir thinks as well, which, again, is an important thing to understand given the power that they've now amassed.
Ben Shapiro ultimately kind of backtracked a little bit when his own followers began saying, what do you mean?
How are you cheering for DEI and job set asides for specific minority groups when you've been claiming to oppose that your whole life?
But here is Palantir's announcement.
"Palantir is offering an opportunity to students looking to flee anti-Semitism on campus.
We at Palantir have been committed to defending the principle that make democratic rule possible since our founding two decades ago.
Our software embodies our values and commitments.
These include high performance efficiency, transparency, fairness, and a rejection of narrow thinking, including fear and skepticism of the other and outright bigotry.
We believe these values must be backed up by action on the battlefield, intellectual and otherwise, given the egregious levels of anti-Semitism in our society, especially at our most elite educational institutions.
Some of these organizations seem structurally incapable of taking any steps to reform themselves.
Students on campuses are terrified and have been instructed by administrators to hide their Judaism.
Who, because of anti-Semitism, fear for their safety on campus and need to seek refuge outside traditional establishments of higher education.
They are welcome to join Palantir and we are setting aside 180 positions for them immediately.
They created 180 jobs available not based on merit, not open to everybody.
Who competes based on merit in the United States.
They created 180 jobs available exclusively to Jewish students who claim that they are endangered.
Exactly the kind of DEI programs where you say black people have been historically oppressed and feel endangered in society or untreated fairly, therefore we're going to create 80 jobs only for black people.
And everyone in the conservative movement or anything adjacent to it goes absolutely crazy, sues over it, says it's illegal, says it's immoral, says it's racist.
And here is Palantir doing exactly the same thing, but only for Jewish students.
I think indicating the ideology of the people, including Alex Karp, who run This now extremely powerful centralized corporation that collects and maintains and does whatever it wants with all of your personal data from the IRS to HHS to Homeland Security and everything in between.
Here was Alex Karp quoted in the Hill and Valley forum where he was speaking about Israel and the role that Palantir plays in the Israeli Attack on Gaza, which is significant.
And he was asked, basically, what about the role you're playing and the number of civilians being killed?
And here's what he said.
This was in April of 2025.
that a few people get wealthy and if you said platitudes are obviously stupid you could Oh.
I'm killing my family in Palestine.
And you know How long are you?
I don't sleep at night.
Do you want to hear my answer?
Sure, Brian!
Okay.
So, I think the primary cause of death to Palestinians...
Well, you don't want to hear an answer.
Obviously.
So the primary source of death in Palestine is the fact that Hamas has realized that there are millions and millions of useful idiots that will...
You're using that excuse.
This is why you don't get a flash to speak.
Because you are killing my people and you're justifying it because of Hamas or anyone else.
Can we get security up there?
Mostly terrorists, that's true.
She believes I'm evil.
I believe she's an unwitting product of an evil force, Hamas.
that she unwittingly is part of their strategy, that she is a product.
And the most important thing, arguably, in the book, or what you could learn is, Now, I want to emphasize that although we've been focused on Palantir's intelligence collection, one of the things they do is they are developing AI products designed to be used on the battlefield.
And this is actually a story we reported on previously at The Intercept as part of the student documents.
I worked on it with my colleague Jeremy Scahill that artificial intelligence or algorithmic analysis was being increasingly used to decide in the Obama administration Who would live and who would die with the drone program?
So they would assign, this program would point to people based on who they talked to or in what proximity they were to other people considered by the program to be bad.
And if you got enough points, you were deemed eligible for the kill list.
These were not human intelligence assets.
Giving information, these were purely Algorithmic assessments that ultimately have now become more sophisticated with artificial intelligence.
It's one of the things Palantir is working on.
And one of the things we were able to discover was that Al Jazeera journalists who interview terrorists were not differentiated under this program.
A lot of them had very high point totals that made them eligible to be killed even though they weren't plotting with terrorists.
They were interviewing people deemed to be adversaries by the U.S. government.
And that's why I say a lot of this technology is extremely dangerous.
It doesn't mean we should ban it.
Probably other people are developing it.
But you need serious safeguards on it to make sure that it's not being abused or pursued for political ends.
And here you see somebody who's as politicized.
Who's as loyal to a foreign country and therefore antagonistic to those who criticize the foreign country in the United States as you could possibly imagine.
And he's the person amassing this massive power, not just of information, but also increasingly of military weaponry.
Here he spoke at the Reagan Presidential Foundation in December of 2024 and shared some of his philosophy about how the West needs to maintain dominance.
Americans are the most loving, God-fearing, fair, least discriminatory people on the planet.
And they want to know that if you're waking up and thinking about harming American citizens, or if American citizens are taken hostage and kept in dungeons, or if you're a foreign power sending fentanyl to poison our people, something really bad is going to happen to you and your friends and your cousins and your bank account and your mistress and whoever was involved.
And, you know, when Americans are spending a trillion dollars on defense, what I know, what I want, and what I think my peers want is, why are these people keeping our citizens hostage, torturing our people, attacking our allies, maligning us in what was once called the United Nations, basically a discriminatory institution against anything good?
We need to stand up, and those people need to be scared.
And that's why this conference is so important, because we have the best products in the world, and we cannot have parity.
Our adversaries do not have our moral compunction.
If it's even, they will take advantage of our niceness, kindness, our desire to be at home in Nebraska or New Hampshire or wherever we are.
So people like Alice Karp are very benevolent, very kind, very loving, very considerate, very fair.
But the people who think differently than him, those are monstrous people.
They live without ethics.
And as a result, we need to make sure that we develop the intel programs and the weaponization programs to keep the people who we regard as adversaries in fear of us.
And it's pure James Bond villain talk, sociopathic talk, which you could dismiss if not for the fact that he really is in a position Where he's able to oversee the programs that will actually do that.
Here's a little bit more of him talking about how he thinks social change of the kind that he wants in the United States should be effectuated.
speaking at the Economic Club on May 22nd, just a little bit ago.
And as I said, he's becoming more emboldened in speaking out publicly about just how extremist his ideology is, just how...
Here he is talking about how he wants to effectuate the social change he believes in.
It's the most effective way for social change is humiliate your enemy and make them poor.
And that's how social change actually happens.
And, uh, um, and, um...
Thank you.
So the way social change happens is that you take the people you disagree with, your enemies, and humiliate them, and you make them poorer.
He was talking before about how if you're against him, how if you believe in a cause he doesn't believe in, he thinks that not only you, but your family and your mistress all should be revealed and should be punished.
They should have their bank accounts taken away.
I mean, isn't this the kind of authoritarianism that we have been Concerned about, have been objecting to, have been denouncing for so many years the idea that if you have beliefs that people in power dislike, that you can have private information about you disclosed to humiliate you, that you can have your bank accounts stripped from you, that basically dissent can be crushed.
And that's what he's saying, is that we need to make sure that people who dissent live in fear of what we can do to them.
This is who Alex Karp is.
Here is a...
It's called the future of warfare.
And this is Palantir's vision for what they are and what they intend to do.
Palantir's vision
All right, so that's the idea is we are the most technologically sophisticated, algorithmically driven company of artificial intelligence that will lead the way in empowering us and our government to destroy our enemies.
And you can see who his enemies are.
It is not people who attack the United States.
It is people who have an ideology and an agenda very different than the highly politicized agenda that Alex Karp has.
One that has many aspects to it, but at the center of it is a loyalty to Israel, a belief that the United States, and Palantir in particular, should be doing everything possible to aid Israel in destroying its enemies.
He's very open about that.
And that's the person who is now being empowered within the Trump administration as the kind of new overlord of the deep state and the surveillance state.
I guess the question you have to ask yourself is whether that's something that makes you comfortable.
Not surprising that that's the faction that also is very loyal to Israel who sees in Palantir not just an ally but a weapon.
But as I said before, one of the dangers always is when a movement comes in and says we want to curb these abuses that have been used against us, we want to clean out the way these powers are being politicized, the big danger often is that those who get into power will seek instead to seize those powers for themselves and further fortify them.
And I do believe there are people inside the Trump administration whose vision is very antithetical to that, including people like Tulsi Gabbard.
But this is a momentum.
This has a momentum.
This is very powerful people behind it that want Palantir to ascend to this position for all sorts of reasons that they believe serve their agenda, and we're well on our way to that happening.
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Obviously, you couldn't do something like this even on a cable show where you have a 15-minute monologue or a seven-minute cable hit.
And the value of shows like this, in my view, is when we get to do this sort of thing, spend a lot of time with an excellent staff that we have here.
Compiling the information, doing the investigation, doing the research to put it all together in a way that I think is informative.
And I feel like that's one of the things that we were able to do tonight.
I just want to show you a couple more things about Palantir before we go into what I had described earlier as the after show for our local members where I'm going to talk about some reflections on the last couple of weeks.
This obviously politically motivated attack on me, involving my private life.
I'm just going to have some reflections on those for our local members.
But before we get to that, just a couple more things on Palantir to keep in mind.
Here is the Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine.
And there he is in a tweet saying, So you see, every time there's a new war, Palantir is right there, understanding that war is their business.
They need wars.
They want wars.
They want to enable wars.
They want to be at the center of wars.
They're already at the center of the Israeli war in Gaza, and they have been at the center of the war in Ukraine from the start.
Here from June of 2022 is Palantir's own tweet, quote, We are honored to have met with President Zelensky, the vice prime minister as well, and other officials in Kiev today to discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine and the pivotal role of software.
To Western security.
And the Ukraine war has become vital for kind of using that war as an experiment to test new weapons of artificial intelligence on the battlefield.
Here from Time Magazine, February 2024, how tech giants turned Ukraine into an AI war lab.
Over a round of espressos, Palantir's Alex Karp told President Zelensky that he was ready to open an office in Kiev and deploy Palantir's data and artificial intelligence software to support Ukraine's defense.
Karp believed that they could team up, quote, in ways that allow David to beat a modern-day Goliath.
The progress has been striking.
In the year and a half since Karp's initial meeting with Zelensky, Palantir has embedded itself in the day-to-day work of a wartime foreign government in an unprecedented way.
More than half of a dozen Ukrainian agencies, including ministries of defense, economy, and education, are now using the company's products.
Palantir's software, which uses AI to analyze satellite imagery, open source data, drone footage, and reports from the ground to present military commanders with military options, is, quote, responsible for most of the targeting in Ukraine, according to CARP.
PALANTIER WAS SO KEEN TO SHOWCASE ITS CAPABILITIES THAT IT PROVIDED THEM TO UKRAINE FREE OF CHARGE.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY A They're basically running their own foreign policy where they go wherever they want to wars and make themselves indispensable to those wars so that people see how effective their AI products are, their tech products are, so that in the next war, governments will want to pay enormous amounts of money to get Palantir on their side.
From the Washington Post, December of 2022, how the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine.
What's that?
Yeah, this is from David Ignatius, who is the sort of in-house Washington Post spokesperson for the CIA.
So the CIA obviously is trying to promote Palantir as well for obvious reasons.
They're in bed together.
Two Ukrainian military officers peer at a local computer operated by a Ukrainian technician using software provided by the American technology company Palantir.
On the screen are detailed digital maps of the battlefield in eastern Ukraine overlaid with other targeting intelligence, most of it obtained from commercial satellites.
If this were a working combat operations center rather than a demonstration for a visiting journalist, Ukrainian officials could use a targeting program to select a missile, artillery piece, or armed drone to attack the Russian positions displayed on the system.
Then drones could conform the strike and a damage assessment would be fed back into the system.
Quote, the power of advanced algorithmic warfare systems is now so great that it equates to having tactical nuclear weapons against an adversary with only conventional ones, explains Alex Karp, chief executive of Palantir, in an email message.
Quote, the general public tends to underestimate this.
Our adversaries no longer do.
So you really see the tentacles of Palantir in so many different aspects of intelligence gathering, of deep state functions of the United States, of the surveillance state, and in warfighting, essentially on its own terms in a way that it wants, but obviously working in conjunction with the CIA as well.
And for a company that powerful, for Palantir to have received so little attention, I guarantee you most Americans have never heard of it, let alone know anything about it.
It's something that requires a lot more journalistic investigation.
I'm glad that Alex Karp is speaking so freely now about what it is that he really thinks, not just about policy positions and foreign policy and wars, but about the mentality that he has about the purpose of superior military force and intelligence gathering to keep your enemies in fear, meaning not just United States enemies, but enemies to Palantir's.
Highly politicized and ideological agenda, which I think is becoming clearer and clearer every day.
And at some point, I think conservatives have to ask themselves, when you look at what was the America First ideology in terms of foreign policy, what was looked at in terms of the need to protect Americans from the intrusions of the surveillance state and the deep state, whether Palantir is actually remotely consistent with that, or whether it's the living, breathing antithesis of it.
I do believe some of these older guard military companies like Boeing and Booz Allen Hamilton have obtained some disfavor in Washington, but that does not in any way signify the weakening of the surveillance state or the military-industrial complex.
It simply signifies a changing of the guard, and at least in this case, it seems as though the changing of the guard has not reformed any of that, but made it far more powerful, far more threatening, Far more powerful in a way that seems to have increasingly very little limits on what it can do.
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