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How is Trump's Fixation on Taking Over Gaza "America First"?; Netanyahu Never Intended to Carry Through on Ceasefire Deal

Trump's delusional plans to expel Palestinians and to build beachfront real estate in Gaza are a departure from his "America First" campaign promises: will MAGA supporters speak up? Plus: as the next stage of the ceasefire deal appears to be crumbling, it becomes even more apparent that Netanyahu never intended to carry through on the deal. ----- Watch full episodes on Rumble, streamed LIVE 7pm ET. Become part of our Locals community Follow System Update:  Twitter Instagram TikTok Facebook LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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*Music* Good evening, It's Tuesday, February 11th.
Welcome to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday at 7 p.m.
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Tonight, more than a week ago, President Trump surprised a lot of people when, seemingly out of nowhere, he announced that it would be a good idea to move the 1.8 million Palestinians out of Gaza and put them somewhere else.
Ever since then, Trump has talked about this idea with great frequency, increasing passion, and more specificity.
He met today in the White House with the U.S.-funded King of Jordan and made clear that his plan is for the U.S. to simply, quote, take over Gaza and then own it while building absolutely wonderful housing elsewhere for the Palestinian population that he intends to forcibly object.
Eject, delivering to Israel its wet dream in a form far greater than it ever thought possible, namely ethnically cleansing Gaza of all Arabs.
There are multiple questions about this plan, obviously, but one question that is seemingly unanswerable is this.
What does any of this have to do with the America First ideology that Trump and his supporters have been touting for eight years?
With Americans at home facing a housing crisis and repressive economic obstacles, in what conceivable way does this help any of the voters that Trump claimed to want to help?
It's obvious, quite obvious, how it helps, for example, his billionaire pro-Israel donors like the Israeli-American Maryam Adelson and Bill Ackman, and even more obvious how it helps his son-in-law, the equally pro-Israel Jared Kushner, who has long spoken openly about the great value of what it would mean to build seaside apartments and hotels in Gaza.
But what does any of this have to do with the working-class voters in the Midwest and the South and the rest of the country?
Remember them?
All of this is happening as it seems increasingly likely that the ceasefire deal, of which Trump was so proud, justifiably so, is on the verge of completely collapsing.
In fact, from the start, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu explicitly told his supporters and the extremists in his government that he had no intention of carrying through on the deal.
And promised that Israel would return to bombing the little that remains of Gaza and killing even more innocent people once they got some hostages back.
With Trump's blessing and with U.S. financing and arms, that is exactly what Israel is now on the precipice of doing.
Once again, prompting the question of how any of this, this conflict, this war, this plan to remove the Arabs from Gaza and have the U.S. take over is remotely consistent with or even relevant to.
The ideology that Trump and his supporters spent years advocating.
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If you had watched Donald Trump for the last three weeks since he's been inaugurated, you would certainly see he's doing a lot of the policies, pursuing a lot of the policies he had promised during the campaign to pursue.
But you would also be forgiven for wondering whether a major part of Donald Trump's campaign was not only to make America great again, but to make Israel great again.
In fact, one of the reasons you might wonder that is because Trump actually Said exactly that during a speech he delivered where he was overseen by Miriam Adelson, on whom he did an entire show prior to the election, the Israeli billionaire who has donated massive amounts to Donald Trump's campaign, who, according to Trump, played a critical role in his Mideast policy during his first term.
And he said, we want to make America great again, and we also want to make Israel great again.
And a lot of Trump's attention in the first three weeks.
In office has been devoted not to the workers of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and the rest of the region that had played such a critical role in voting for him, but on plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza of all the Palestinians there and turn it into a vision that people like Jared Kushner, his pro-Israel Sunlaw, and other people in Israel have long.
held, which was essentially to get out the Palestinians and then rebuild it from the rubble that Israel, with the help of the United States, produced over the last 15 months.
Trump met today with Jordan's King Abdullah, who is a monarch, who is a dictator in Jordan.
He depends upon U.S. largesse.
We pay these Gulf state tyrants in places like Egypt and Jordan billions of dollars a year because they do our bidding and Israel's bidding.
Same thing in the region.
And the meeting obviously focused in part on Trump's plan to move the 1.8 He wants to put a lot of them in places like Egypt and Jordan, notwithstanding how many times those countries have said they have no intention of taking them.
Although, of course, they can't really be that blunt about it with Trump because they do in fact depend upon the United States and the billions of dollars they get every year to carry out The bidding of the United States.
So that's part of what Trump has been saying whenever he's been asked, well, your plan to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians depends upon Egypt and Jordan taking huge numbers of them, and yet they keep saying that they won't.
He keeps saying, Trump does, oh, they may say they won't, but they will.
We give them huge amounts of money, and they want that money to continue.
They're going to have to cooperate.
With our plan.
So here is Jordan King Abdullah today at the White House, as reported by NPR. You see the photo there of the two of them sitting in the Oval Office with the headline, Jordan King Abdullah heads to the White House as Trump pushes a Gaza takeover plan.
By the way, you may note that Doge, the Elon Musk-run Program to rid the government of unnecessary spending has spent a lot of time on programs that the right dislikes, but the massive amounts of spending on wars, on militarism, on the Pentagon thus far remain untouched.
And people like Steve Bannon have correctly pointed out that if you actually want to have real cutting of waste and graft and— All kinds of excessive spending.
You have to, as Bannon put it, cross the Potomac and go to the Pentagon.
And thus far, that has not happened to say nothing of the billions of dollars we give to these countries in the Middle East to serve Our agenda of protecting Israel.
From NPR. Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel precisely
because they did not want a solution at Jordan's expense.
Said former Jordanian Foreign Minister Marwan Mushar.
This is an existential issue to Jordan that does not lend itself to any economic pressure from the United States, said Mushar, now Vice President of Studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
He said the break to Trump's plans could be Saudi resistance.
Trump has made clear he wants to broker a normalization agreement between Saudi Arabia, the most powerful Gulf state, and Israel.
Saudi Arabia last week said expelling Palestinians, Which stand in the way of any normalization talks.
So I think it's really worth thinking about that for a second.
The position of the Trump administration in the first term was that the most impressive foreign policy accomplishment that served American interests in the region was the Abraham Accords, which attempted to...
Begin going down that road of normalizing relations between the Israelis on the one hand and the Gulf state dictatorships on the other that are close U.S. allies.
And the second Trump administration was supposed to be about the crown jewel of that plan, which is normalizing relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, forming basically an entire Middle East alliance aligned against Iran and its allies.
That, according to the Trump administration, is something crucial to American interest in the Middle East, to stabilize the Middle East, to create a peaceful Middle East so that America can focus on China and other interests that it has around the world.
And apparently, thus far, we seem very willing to sacrifice a deal of that kind in order to serve Israel's much more important objective to them of...
Having it annexed Gaza in the West Bank by getting rid of all the bothersome, annoying, uppity Arabs who live there, people who refuse to accept the idea that they're supposed to be ruled by Jews in Tel Aviv in a system in which they have no democratic participation, very similar to what apartheid South Africa was.
And so apparently, thus far at least, it seems like the Trump administration's priority is serving the Israeli goal rather than the American goal.
King Abdullah was very careful when sitting next to Trump and answering questions in the media.
He certainly didn't say that Jordan would take the population of Gaza, but he did heap praise on Donald Trump as world leaders know they have to do or can do in order to get benefits from Trump.
But he then went on to Twitter because he has a big Palestinian population and can't appear, if he wants to maintain stability in his own country, to look as though he's collaborating with Trump on the ethnic cleansing of Gaza to serve Israel.
And so he said this, quote, Trump earlier today at the White House at that meeting elaborated on his plans and Made manifest how much
more extreme than they seem to be even from the first time that he unveiled it a little bit more than a week ago.
Think about what he's saying here in terms of how extensive U.S. involvement would be in this plan.
I really think we're making some very good progress.
You said before that the U.S. would buy Gaza, and today you just said we're not going to buy Gaza.
We're not going to have to buy.
We're going to have Gaza.
We don't have to buy.
There's nothing to buy.
We will have Gaza.
What is that?
No reason to buy.
There is nothing to buy.
It's Gaza.
It's a war-torn area.
We're going to take it.
We're going to hold it.
We're going to cherish it.
We're going to...
Get it going eventually where a lot of jobs are going to be created for the people in the Middle East.
It's going to be for the people in the Middle East.
But I think it could be a diamond.
It could be an absolute tremendous asset for the Middle East.
And you're going to have peace.
It's going to bring peace in the Middle East.
So he's saying we're going to own it.
We're just going to take it.
We're not going to buy it.
We're just going to take it.
And we're going to do what we want with it.
The day...
Earlier, when he was on Fox News, Bret Baier asked him about the plan, which originally seemed to be depicted as, oh, we're gonna remove the Palestinians, they're an annoyance to rebuilding, and we're gonna rebuild it, and then some of them might be able to come back to the homeland that they are religiously and spiritually and historically connected to.
Yesterday, though, Trump seemed to make clear that No, the plan is not for the Palestinians to ever return to Gaza, that they're going to stay in some other place that we create for them.
Here's what he said.
We'll build beautiful communities for the 1.9 million people.
We'll build beautiful communities, safe communities.
Could be five, six, could be two.
But we'll build safe communities a little bit away from where they are, where all of this danger is.
In the meantime, I would...
Own this.
Think of it as a real estate development for the future.
It would be a beautiful piece of land.
Would the Palestinians have the right to return?
No, they wouldn't, because they're going to have much better housing, much better...
In other words, I'm talking about building a permanent place for them, because if they have to return now, it'll be years before you could ever...
It's not habitable.
It would be years before it could happen.
I'm talking about starting to build.
And I think I could make a deal with Jordan.
I think I could make a deal with Egypt.
You know, we give them billions and billions of dollars a year.
So, the Palestinians, no, they have no reason to stay in Gaza.
No reason to want to come back to Gaza.
Because Trump's going to build very, just incredibly beautiful communities for them.
Really lovely areas.
Lovely neighborhoods.
With schools and mosques, little suburban homes and apartment buildings.
They're going to love it there.
They're going to be in Egypt.
They're going to be in Jordan.
Probably under extremely heavy security.
Maybe surrounded by fences.
You know, kind of like a camp of some kind.
But it's going to be really lovely.
They're never going to want to go back to Gaza.
They're going to be so happy we're there.
They're so happy to leave.
Again, I want to ask.
So Trump's going to build or he's going to call in favors to get others to build with him while we take Gaza.
All kinds of housing for two million Palestinians.
What?
Again, what happened to I'm going to improve the lives of American citizens?
The only American citizens whose lives are improved by this are Mary Middleton and Jared Kushner and Bill Ackman.
His lives are already pretty good.
This is about everything other than putting America first.
King Abdullah was asked about this, as I said, while he was sitting next to Trump and he pretended to be making some sort of a concession that Trump would interpret and did seem to interpret as a first step toward Having Jordan agree to Trump's plan, here's what King Abdullah said they were going to do.
One of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in a very ill state to Jordan as quickly as possible.
And then wait for, I think, the Egyptians to present their plan on how we can work with the president to work on the cause of challenges.
I want to tell you, excuse me, wait, just please.
I didn't know that what you just said, 2,000 children with cancer or other problems.
And That's really a beautiful gesture.
That's really good, and we appreciate it.
So you're talking here about a population of 2 million Palestinians, and the Jordanians are saying, yeah, you know, we're willing to take 2,000 very sick Palestinian children.
In order to treat them in Jordan, 2000. And Trump, later on as well, in that clip right there too, seemed to react as though that was some sort of an important concession.
Oh look, they're already taking some of these Palestinians.
In fact, the Jordanians have been taking Palestinians who are sick from Gaza and the West Bank and treating them in Jordanian hospitals for a long, long time.
Again, because there's a big, big population in Jordan.
They're not treated very well.
They're repressed.
They're kept under all sorts of surveillance.
Remember, this is a monarchy, not a democracy.
But keeping them placated and calm is extremely important to the stability of Jordan because imagine if that massive Palestinian population rose up against the U.S.-supported king of Jordan.
It could create all kinds of problems.
So they do these tiny little symbolic gestures.
Oh, we're going to take 2,000 children who are in need of medical care, something they've been doing all along.
And it was King Abdullah's way, I guess cleverly, of trying to lead Trump to believe that that was the start of George's willingness to take in the Palestinians that Trump's plan requires them to take in.
One country that is not in any way pretending.
To be hospitable to Trump's plans, in fact, has been very aggressive and very vocal in its hostility toward Trump's plans and toward the Trump administration.
All about this have been the Saudis, arguably the most important American ally in the region geostrategically for U.S. interests.
Here is what the Saudi Foreign Ministry said on February 9th.
That the Palestinian people have a right to their land and they are not intruders or immigrants to it who can be expelled whenever the brutal Israeli occupation wishes.
The Kingdom notes that the proponents of these extremist ideas are the ones who prevented Israel from accepting peace by refusing peaceful coexistence, rejecting the peace initiatives adopted by the Arab countries, and systematically practicing injustice toward the Palestinian people for more than 75 years with disregard to the truth, justice law and the values established in the UN Charter including the human's right to live in dignity on his land.
The Kingdom reiterates that the right of the Palestinian people remain firmly established and no one will be able to take it away from them no matter how long it takes.
The Kingdom also asserts that lasting peace will not be achieved except by returning to the logic of reason and accepting the principle of peaceful coexistence through the two state solution.
you can...
Question whether the Saudis really care about the Palestinians, whether the Jordanians really care, the Egyptians really care.
It doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, their survival as a government, the stability of their countries, which they do care about, depends upon not allowing the ethnic cleansing of Gaza.
No one in the Middle East is going to stand by and watch Israel and the United States.
Forcibly remove two million Palestinians and put them in refugee camps somewhere in the Middle East so that Jared Kushner can take over Gaza and build new developments in casinos and golf courses on the ocean of Gaza.
And the dictators of these countries, despite being dictators, understand that they can't in any way collaborate that or permit that to happen and certainly aren't going to normalize relationships with Israel.
While Israel is talking about ethnically cleansing Gaza and annexing the West Bank in conjunction with the United States.
None of this, in a way, is surprising.
As I said, Trump didn't exactly hide the fact that he was going to be fanatically devoted to Israel.
He talked about that openly during the campaign under the supervision of Miriam Adelson, who became his second biggest donor after Elon Musk here in September.
In a conference called Fighting Anti-Semitism was Trump making the vow to make Israel great.
We're going to take back our country, and we're going to make Israel great again, and we're going to make America great again.
We're going to make them both great again, greater than ever before.
And there you see the two flags flying behind Trump, the Israeli and the American flag.
In that same speech, Trump talked about how Sheldon and Miriam Adelson He came to the White House in the first Trump term more than anybody else, he said.
They were there more often than anybody.
And he said every time they came, they only wanted to talk about one thing, not the United States, but Israel, and how they always had demands for Israel.
And every single demand Trump said that they had, he would meet.
And sometimes he said he would even go beyond what they were asking for.
And he kind of made a sardonic joke about How it was never enough.
Every time he would give them something, they would come right back and demand more, and Trump would say, hey, I just did these things for Israel.
Give me a couple weeks, and I'll do more in a couple weeks.
But Trump was almost proud of the fact that he's owned by Israeli interests and eager to serve them.
His daughter, of course, is married to Jared Kushner, who has made no secret of his desire to get even richer by profiting off of deals with the Saudis, with the Emiratis, and in Gaza.
You can love Trump.
You can be happy with a lot of what Trump's doing.
That doesn't make any of this less true or less important to criticize.
One of the people who, interestingly, decided to speak out about this today was the MMA fighter Sean Strickland, whom the right has come to love because of his willingness to Speak critically about gay people, about Muslims, about pretty much every group that has been considered sacred by liberals on the left.
And so he has been an outspoken critic of those ideas that have become so sacred, sacrosanct on the left, and has become a hero on the right for doing so.
He was a vocal supporter of Trump, and yet on Twitter today he went on the platform and said this, quote, Man, if Trump keeps this BS up, I'm about to start waving a Palestinian flag.
American cities are shitholes, and you want to go spend billions on this dumpster fire?
Did we make a mistake?
This ain't America first.
Yeah, no kidding.
It is always interesting to me how sometimes it takes people more detached from politics.
I understand he follows politics, speaks on it a lot, but he's not immersed in it as his job.
And he's just pointing out the obvious.
I thought we were voting for Trump to make our country better, to improve the lives of our citizens.
What is all this about going and building communities for Palestinians over in the Middle East so that Israel can take that land free of Arabs?
What does that have to do with America First at all?
Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky had a similar reaction.
When Trump unveiled the plan, this is what he said on February 5th, quote, the pursuit for peace should be that of the Israelis and the Palestinians.
I thought we voted for America first.
We have no business contemplating yet another occupation to doom our treasure and spill our soldiers' blood.
We had a little bit of dissent within the MAGA movement.
Prior to the inauguration over the H-1B visas, we talked about this last night with Matt Stoller, Trump ended up siding against the MAGA ideologues and in favor of his big corporate donors, his big money donors like Elon Musk and others by saying, no, we want more foreign workers in the United States to do these kind of jobs.
And since then, there seems to be a willingness to stay quiet on things that Don't seem consistent with the America First agenda.
They're so happy that Google changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America and that there's no more pronoun lines in emails, official government emails.
Congratulations.
It's incredible.
Just fantastic.
But going in, occupying Gaza and building developments so that you can...
Cleanse the population there?
All for Israel?
That seems to require some critique if you actually are serious at all about what you've been saying about American forest foreign policy.
And it's good that Rand Paul can say it, that Sean Strickland can say it.
And we'll see as this honeymoon wears off whether other people are willing to say it as well.
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One of Trump's most impressive accomplishments that he was able to achieve prior even to being inaugurated was that he did something that Joe Biden had been incapable of achieving, really, something that Biden really didn't even attempt to do,
which is foster a ceasefire between the Israelis on the one hand and Gaza on the other so that the relentless bombing and destruction and killing that the Gazans endured for the last 15 months Paid for by the United States government, therefore the American taxpayer, and armed by the U.S. government as well, finally came to a, not really an end, since Israel has, even with that ceasefire in place, continued to bomb and kill Gazans, but certainly subsided to a great extent.
And this is something Trump celebrated.
It's something I gave him credit for and think he deserved credit for it.
By all accounts, it was Trump and his envoy, Steve Whitcoff, who...
We're instrumental in bringing about that deal.
But now it all seems to be on the verge of collapse as both Trump and Netanyahu threaten that Israel will start bombing Gaza even more intensively than they did before unless every hostage that is in Gaza is released, even though the very carefully negotiated ceasefire plan Called for the release of those hostages in stages along with the hostages, and they are hostages, that Israel has.
The Palestinian hostages, people who have been kept in dungeons with no trial, no charges of any kind.
People who end up leaving those dungeons far, far worse than the hostages who come back from Gaza to Israel are in.
And one of the reasons this is happening is in part because Netanyahu made very clear that he never intended to follow through on the ceasefire deal.
Trump and Whitcoff were insistent that he did, but now Trump, because of this plan that just he seemed to create out of nowhere, has seemed really to endanger the ceasefire by signaling to the Israelis that they will have the green light to do whatever they want.
Here from AP today, Hamas says it will delay the release of more hostages, putting the Gaza ceasefire at risk.
Quote, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is under heavy pressure to secure the release of remaining hostages after three Israelis freed Saturday, came home emaciated after 16 months in captivity.
Yet in a sign of the precarious nature of the truce, the Israeli military said late Monday it had canceled leave for soldiers assigned to Gaza.
An Israeli official said Netanyahu was consulting security officials after the Hamas announcement.
The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said Netanyahu also pushed forward a scheduled meeting of the security cabinet to Tuesday morning from later in the day.
In addition to canceling leave for soldiers in Gaza, the Israeli military also said Monday it was bolstering defensive forces responsible for areas along the border with Gaza.
Hamas spokesman Abu Abdeya Obeidah said on social media that Israel has obstructed key provisions of the ceasefire by not allowing Palestinians to return to northern Gaza, carrying out strikes across the territory and failing to facilitate the entry of humanitarian aid. carrying out strikes across the territory and failing to facilitate Yeah.
Thank you.
Now, Western propaganda always feeds Americans, especially, with a narrative about why Israel is right, why Israel should go kill all the Palestinians.
And in this case, the idea was that three of the hostages that came home from Gaza back to Israel looked gaunt and thin and emaciated.
And this has always been such a...
Bizarre aspect of the narrative about this war, which is the Israelis were supposedly prioritizing the safety and return of their hostages, and yet at the same time, while they were claiming that was their goal, they were indiscriminately bombing the exact places they knew the hostages were, to the point where they basically bombed all of Gaza.
Indiscriminately killing huge numbers of people, including some of their own hostages, and at the same time blocking food and medicine and other necessities to the point where all kinds of Western aid organizations routinely warned that Gaza was on the brink of famine and starvation.
And so then everybody acts surprised that the hostages in Gaza, most of whom have come out of Gaza looking perfectly fine, many of whom have said, They were well treated.
That every time their Hamas captors would eat, they would share that food with the hostages.
Many of them came out looking very well fed.
And so we're supposed to be shocked that three of the hostages in particular ended up looking gaunt and thin.
When the entire population of Gaza has been not just relentlessly bombed for 15 months, where the medical system, the healthcare system has been completely destroyed, where there are barely functioning hospitals, and where no food has been permitted to enter Gaza.
And yet that has become the argument, not just by the Israelis, but also now by Donald Trump, about why we have to scrap this entire ceasefire deal that was so carefully negotiated over weeks.
And instead of now having staggered releases of hostages in exchange for the Palestinian hostages held in Gaza, returned, now all the hostages have to be released unilaterally by Hamas by Saturday at noon, or Trump says all hell will break loose, meaning the Israelis will bomb Gaza even worse than they did before.
Here he is speaking yesterday on C-SPAN about the...
Well, I would say this, and I'm going to let that because that's Israel's decision, but as far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages aren't returned by Saturday at 12 o'clock, I think it's an appropriate time.
I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out.
I'd say they ought to be returned by 12 o'clock on Saturday, and if they're not returned, all of them, not in drips and drabs, not two and one and three and four and two.
Saturday at 12 o'clock, and after that, I would say all hell is going to break out.
So there's Trump threatening hell, all hell will break out for Gaza.
Again, spending an enormous amount of his focus and time completely distant from the people who voted for him and serving, yet again, the interest of this foreign government in Tel Aviv that obviously plays such a vital role in the thinking and the actions and the focus of the Trump White House.
Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, who supposedly should be acting like a vassal of the United States since the United States pays for his military and wars.
And protects him diplomatically, but instead, if anything, if anyone looks like a vassal, it's the leaders of the United States when in the presence of the Israelis.
There's nothing that makes Congress clap louder or more passionately or more enduringly than the presence of an Israeli leader.
When they're in the presence of an Israeli leader, they're more deferential than you can imagine.
Here he went to X after Trump said that.
This was earlier today, and Actually, this was him in a video basically copying Trump's language.
I have concluded a deep discussion of four hours in the Security Council.
We all expressed outrage at the shocking situation of our three hostages who were released last Sabbath, Saturday.
We have all advocated President Trump's demand for our hostages to be released until the next Saturday.
And we all have advocated the President's revolutionary vision for the future of Gaza.
In light of Hamas' announcement of its decision to violate the agreement and not release our hostages, I have ordered the IDF to gather forces within and around the Gaza Strip.
This action has been carried out in these hours and will be completed in the nearest future.
The decision I passed unanimously in the Cabinet is this.
If Hamas does not return our hostages by Saturday at noon, the ceasefire will end, and the IDF will return to intense fighting until Hamas is finally defeated.
So, there you have it, and it's all based on the fact that three of the hostages came out looking like they hadn't been well fed in a place that the World Health Organization that hunger organizations including ones led by John McCain's widow Cindy McCain have warned were deliberately starved to death with food cut off and subject to famine.
Now the reality is that none of this should be a surprise because Benjamin Netanyahu explicitly said in Israel that despite the fact that they were agreeing to this deal That was to occur in stages and result in the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza and the end of all hostilities.
Netanyahu was saying, we're not going to actually do the deal.
We're going to agree to the deal, but we're not going to actually follow through.
We don't have to comply with the deals we sign or say we're going to do, even if it's with Trump demanding that we do it.
We're just going to get our hostages back, some of our hostages back in the first stage.
And then we're going to concoct some excuse about why Hamas violated the deal.
And we're going to get right back to bombing them.
He was trying to tell his right-wing allies who are threatening to leave the government over this.
Don't worry.
This isn't a real ceasefire deal.
It's just a tiny little pause.
We're, of course, going to go back and destroy the rest of Gaza and kill huge numbers of more people.
Don't worry.
Here from the Washington Post on January 16th, this is when the deal was being accepted before Trump was inaugurated four days before.
ceasefire deal delayed as Netanyahu bargains with far-right allies.
Quote, Behind closed doors, Netanyahu has been promising his far-right allies that the war could resume after that initial phase during which Hamas is to gradually release 33 hostages in exchange for the freeing of more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners, according to the three people familiar with the negotiations. according to the three people familiar with the negotiations.
Under the agreement, a second phase of the ceasefire is supposed to be negotiated during the initial phase and would require an Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.
If the ceasefire breaks down before then, nearly half of the hostages held by Hamas, many of them Israeli soldiers, would remain in captivity.
Now, let's remember that as well, that the hostages that Hamas is holding are largely Israeli soldiers.
not Israeli civilians.
There are a couple of those too, but most of them are Israeli soldiers.
Now, all of this has been Around for a long time, the ceasefire deal.
It was on the table during the Biden administration back in July of 2024. The Times of Israel reported Netanyahu's office issues a list of non-negotiable demands ahead of renewed talks.
The text declares that, quote, any deal will allow Israel to return to fighting until its war aims are met.
The statement concludes that the framework that was agreed by Israel and was welcomed by President Biden will enable Israel to return hostages without harming the other aims of the war.
So they always intended that any deal would allow them to return to destroying Gaza, even though 92% of the buildings are already destroyed or severely compromised.
There's no civilian infrastructure there.
There's no water.
There's no sewage.
There's nothing in Gaza.
Israel has mostly...
Leveled it.
And yet they want to go back and do more.
Hear from N12 News, that was around the same time in June of 2024, titled The Difficult Meeting Between Netanyahu and the Families of the Kidnapped and Murder Hostages.
Quote, my prime minister is not Sinwar or Biden, it is you.
And remember, the families of the hostages have known for a long time.
That while the hostages were the pretext for all of this war, Netanyahu has demonstrated no interest in actually saving them or getting them back.
The family of the late Tamir Adar tries to understand the fate of the deal.
Hamas's demand has been clear from day one.
Are you willing to declare a ceasefire on the condition that all the hostages are released?
Prime Minister Netanyahu replies, We will not leave Gaza until we eradicate Hamas.
The family of Tamir Adar continues.
How does that align with releasing all the hostages?
President Netanyahu responds, you'd be surprised there are ways.
So Netanyahu was saying all along, even if Hamas releases all the hostages, we're not going to end the war.
We're not going to end the bombing.
Here in October of 2023, three weeks after the October 7th attack, Netanyahu was adamant that there just be no ceasefire at all.
Even if there was an agreement to release the hostages, he was determined to destroy Gaza.
Here's what he said.
I want to make clear Israel's position regarding a ceasefire.
Just as the United States would not agree to a ceasefire after the bombing of Pearl Harbor or after the terrorist attack of 9-11, Israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with Hamas after the horrific attacks of October 7th.
Calls for a ceasefire are calls for Israel to surrender to Hamas, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to barbarism.
That will not happen.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war.
This is a time for war, a war for our common future.
Now, as I said, there was always the intent to create some pretext, and the pretext became, Here's from Ynet that these three hostages, quote, look terrible.
Families horrified by frail, emaciated condition of the freed hostages.
And there you see a couple of the before and after pictures.
I mean, if you look at most people in Gaza, they don't look very good either.
They've had no regular form of diet or health care or anything else.
But the more important...
The issue here is that the Israelis, as the New York Times says here, have released 180 what they call Palestinian prisoners, but they're really not prisoners because prisoners are generally people who are convicted of crimes.
Many of these people who the Israelis have detained in dungeons, including ones where there has been confirmed instances of gang rapes by Israeli soldiers, and even though they were caught, there was protest outside of where they were held, including by members of the Knesset.
For them to be released and all sorts of mainstream media outlets in Israel justifying the use of rape against Palestinians.
The conditions in which the Palestinians are found when they're released from these Israeli dungeons are infinitely worse than the way in which these Israelis are coming back from the people in Gaza.
Here is just one example of Mohammed El Sabah.
Who, in this picture, is only 20 years old.
He was detained by Israel when he was 14. And when he was released, he was not only emaciated, he had scabies all over his body.
Consistent with all sorts of documentation and reports that prisoners in these Israeli dungeons are not even allowed to shower.
They're given no sanitation.
They stay on the floor.
They are kept tied up for...
Large amounts of time, they're deprived of food on purpose.
Hear from Heretz in November of 2024, quote, a quarter of Palestinian prisoners in Israel are infected with scabies in recent months.
I can show you all night horrifying photos of, again, Palestinians charged with nothing, let alone convicted of nothing, something.
Released because they're not actually endangered.
And then here, of course, was the notorious video that N12 News played where you can see Israeli soldiers standing over.
And here you can see how the Palestinian detainees are capped.
They're lying on the ground while there's barbed wire surrounding them.
And then you can see the Israeli soldiers going and taking the Palestinian...
detainees and gang raping them.
The police were in the hospital, and they were in the hospital.
They were in the hospital, and they were in the hospital.
They were in the hospital, and they were in the hospital.
The hospital, including the treatment of the medical care, is also in the hospital.
There is virtually no outrage or indignation over how these people are being released, because in the West, there is a hierarchy of who is human and who isn't.
So you have three Israelis who look thin and gaunt, and the world acts like That's the Holocaust, but you have thousands of Palestinians in Israeli's dungeons with amply documented reports of all kinds of extreme abuse coming out looking like Holocaust patients or survivors, infinitely worse than what the Israelis looked like when they were turning from Gaza, and nobody bats an eye.
And that's because, from the beginning, certainly the idea of the Israeli government, and you could say maybe the idea of Trump, though I don't think so.
I think Trump really wanted to pride himself on this deal.
But certainly Netanyahu is very open about the fact that they were going to create a pretext to go back and destroy Gaza.
One of the weaknesses of Trump is that he's sometimes easily manipulated.
They show him these pictures of gaunt-looking Israelis.
And he says, oh my God, this is like the Holocaust.
We can't allow these hostages to remain any longer.
We have to get them out immediately.
So either by Saturday, they're all released, even though that was the deal.
And even Trump said, I doubt they will be.
Or we're going to unleash hell on the people of Gaza, who Trump himself has said are living in the worst conditions on all planet Earth, with their society completely destroyed.
This is an Israel-first policy.
That's what this is.
And it's an Israel First policy because that's who funded Trump's campaign, and that's who he's surrounded by.
And let me be very clear, that is a bipartisan policy.
Joe Biden also had an Israel First policy.
Washington has had an Israel First policy for decades, where all kinds of people, including generals, have said, we frequently sacrifice our own interests in the region to protect Israel's.
Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt wrote that 2007 book called The Israel Lobby that purports to explain exactly why that is.
There are all kinds of debates about why it is, but the fact that it is can barely be any question any longer.
It's just particularly notable that a political movement that ran on a platform Called America first, which they defined as being, we have had enough of paying for other countries' conflicts, involving ourselves in conflicts that have nothing to do with us.
It's time that we put our own citizens and our own workers and our own interests first.
Can watch Donald Trump, not in the first year of his presidency, but in the first two or three weeks, devote enormous amount of time to this spectacular plan, this fantastical plan?
Of devoting major amounts of energy and time and U.S. credibility and money to a plan that even the Israelis in their wildest dreams could never have imagined they could get.
Whatever Miriam Adelson actually ended up paying to help make Trump president the $100 million or more, she got a great deal because the value she got in return for what she paid is infinitely greater than the amount she paid.
And again, the question is, when will The people who thought they were voting for Donald Trump because he wanted to focus on the United States and not on Tel Aviv, when will they actually start raising their voices in objection to all of this that's taking place?
And in the meantime, it seems likely that we're about to return to watching the United States and Israel bomb a group of people and a society that Donald Trump's entire plan is based on explaining and acknowledging.
Have already been destroyed in a way that will be, will take a crime against humanity and make it all the more criminal and all the more atrocious.
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