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Good evening.
It's Wednesday, November 6th, the day after the 2024 presidential election.
Welcome to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday at 7 p.m.
Eastern, exclusively here on Rumble, the free speech alternative to YouTube.
Tonight...
Donald Trump last night won the American presidency for the second time.
In a sweeping landslide, Trump won all seven of the so-called swing states.
He is almost certainly likely to win more than 300 electoral college votes.
His lead in the popular vote over Kamala Harris is now almost 4 million, which would make him only the second Republican candidate this century to win the popular vote, the other being the wartime president George W. Bush in 2004.
He also beat Kamala, Trump did, and her running mate Tim Walz's own home county in Minnesota.
As striking as the massive margins are is the breadth of demographic groups in which Trump made major strides since 2020.
In fact, in virtually every demographic group other than college-educated women, In other words, Trump...
Who has been branded by the national media virtually every day since 2015 as a racist, a white nationalist, a white supremacist, fascist, owes his win in large part to the massive number of non-white voters who migrated from the Democratic Party toward Trump starting in 2016 into 2020 and even more so in 2024.
On top of that, the Republicans took control away from the Democrats of the Senate and appear likely, it's not certain, but it appears likely, that they will maintain control of the House as well.
The biggest loser in all of this, besides the Democratic Party and their neocon allies such as Liz Cheney, is the corporate media.
To say that they are becoming more and more irrelevant at a rapid speed is to severely understate the case.
They spent the last week of this campaign focusing on such towering issues as how a joke pulled by a comedian at a Trump rally enraged celebrities such as Bad Bunny and Jennifer Lopez, thereby, according to them, jeopardizing Trump's ability to attract Latino and especially Puerto Rican voters as if that's the first thing on their mind when they go to vote.
They spent 48 hours melting in contrived indignation over their false claim that Trump threatened Liz Cheney with execution by firing squad.
I suppose we'll see whether that actually is scheduled shortly, whether it's on pay-per-view or whatever.
But at least as of now, it was a completely fabricated allegation that they spent two or three days, full days, drowning in.
And that most of their time over the past two months...
has been screeching that Trump is the new Hitler coming to put all of them, these very important people in the media, the pundits and the various politicians to come and put them all into camps.
Now, obviously, none of that mattered in the slightest.
And that is not only because corporate media is rapidly losing their audience to independent media outlets, podcasts, and the like, but also because their lives are increasingly lived in a different universe than the millions of Americans on whose behalf they believe they speak.
So many of them, these cable pundits and op-ed writers, spent the day expressing pure bafflement I just can't understand why this happened.
After everything we said about Trump, how can people go and vote for him in such large numbers?
While others spent the day blaming and heaping scorn, not on the Democrats for losing, but on the voters for not doing what they were told.
Particular scorn was reserved for Latino and Arab voters accused of being racist and misogynistic because, as we know, Democrats, nothing enrages them more than when members of marginalized groups, if they believe they are owned, don't do as they're told.
In sum, the leaders of the Democratic Party can never fail.
They can only be failed by primitive, stupid, bigoted, and racist American voters.
We'll have a lot more to say about what is clearly an historical election.
There's no figure like Trump in all of American history for multiple reasons.
And a bit later in the show, we will be joined by the great investigative journalist and my friend Lee Fong, who principally writes at his great sub-stack, but is also a contributing writer for the British journal Unheard.
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There are so many obvious trends, not just in American democratic life, but throughout Western democracies.
And the towering one is the one that explains Trump's victory in 2016, his victory last night, and his extremely close race with Joe Biden, despite every conceivable headwind that an incumbent can face, beginning with a worldwide pandemic that closed down most of the country and resulted in extreme economic harm.
Trump above all is a person who has tapped into and understands the reality that most Americans despise establishment institutions.
They believe that the financial system is geared only toward helping the people at the very top at their expense.
They believe the corporate media lies to them continuously to manipulate them for political ends.
They believe the political class cares about everything other than their own interests.
And they're right about all of that.
And what we have seen in country after country after country in the democratic world is that whoever can come and most credibly present themselves as a vehicle for attacking and dismantling and destroying the establishment factions that people most hate, and for good and justifiable reasons, those people have enormous political advantage.
Conversely, anybody who seems to be the living, breathing embodiment Of the status quo ruling class, people like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris are going to have a very, very difficult time no matter what their campaign is, no matter what they say, no matter what they do, because they seem to represent with their stability and their proper decorum and their perfectly comported behavior all the time.
And most of all, the fact that these ruling institutions are on their side, they come to represent exactly what people most hate.
And this has been so obvious for so long that this is the dynamic that drives Trump's popularity more than anything else.
And yet, each time that these institutions try and understand why Trump, a person that they've demonized in their own minds, Beyond Pol Pot or even Adolf Hitler, continues to attract so much appeal, so much popularity, they resort to one of two answers.
Number one, they just say, we don't understand it.
And they really don't because they live in this tiny little bubble with other like-minded elites who worship American institutions, who respect and want to preserve status quo, ruling class authority, who are doing very well in life and for that reason are very happy with how things are proceeding.
And they really are baffled.
They just can't understand.
In their mind, Donald Trump is nothing more than a racist, fascist, felon, rapist, white supremacist.
All of those words they throw at him constantly and to each other and for each other every day that they really can't comprehend.
Why someone that they know is the symbol and root of all evil is somebody that hundreds of millions of Americans continue to vote for and want to be empowered.
The other option to which they resort once they get past that bafflement is to start blaming the people who voted for him by essentially saying, well, they're voting for somebody who is satanic, who is racist.
who is misogynistic, who is fascist, who hates minority groups, because the people in the country support those values.
They're the same as him.
They're also racist and primitive.
Or stupid.
They're just stupid.
And therefore they're supporting Trump because there's great flaws in all of their character.
And if you think I'm exaggerating, that has been the overwhelming ethos, not just in the last 24 hours when all of these media elites who are so sure Trump was going to lose, have to now grapple with the fact that even though they wake up every day and go to work every day at these major,
gigantic corporations and say the same thing everybody else is saying at these corporations about Trump, And they're all so convinced of it that the people who went and vote just not only don't pay any attention to it or not influenced by anything they're saying, if anything, they backlash against what they're being told to do.
They do the opposite because they know that these are the people representative of the institutions they most hate.
And it's unbelievable to me how little capacity they have for any kind of introspection, for any kind of self-critique.
I've been talking about this so much when you look at pulling data about why institutions and media are held in such low esteem.
Oftentimes, journalists in these outlets won't even acknowledge it.
If they do acknowledge it, they'll blame other things that have nothing to do with their flaws.
Oh, well, they've stopped trusting us because there's so much disinformation online.
People have been encouraged to not trust us.
The Russians are convincing people not to trust our institutions.
It's nothing at all to do with anything they've done wrong.
So there's just no introspection.
And then it's true more broadly of the reasons why people hold elite institutions in general in such contempt.
There's no self-reflection.
Why is it that people perceive that these political and financial and media institutions care about everything other than the vast majority of Americans?
Why is it that they perceive that?
There must be some reason.
But interrogating that reason would require them to engage in some kind of critique, self-criticism, and that, more than anything, is what they cannot do.
And that's why you've seen so much today of these people who pretend they love America and love Americans so much and just want to unite their fellow Americans, spewing utter contempt and insult and degradation.
And not just at the specific voters who voted for Trump, but of the entire groups of people who, as wholes, moved more toward Trump and more away from the Democratic Party.
As always with liberals, you just need to scratch a tiny little bit.
And you find under that surface just raging hatred and contempt for the so-called marginalized groups the minute that they don't do what they're told.
Let's get to the results themselves, just to get that out of the way first, from AP News.
This is today at 4.15 p.m.
Eastern Time, so just a couple hours ago.
This is the latest popular vote for the entire country.
Donald Trump has just over 72 million votes, which is 51%.
Kamala Harris has just over 67,000 votes.
So right now, Trump is leading the popular vote by 5 million.
It's possible, though unlikely, that that will be significantly eaten into as California, which takes a long time to count votes, and other West Coast states do.
But it seems very unlikely that Kamala Harris will surpass Donald Trump in terms of the overall number of Americans who voted for him and not her.
So Democrats don't even have their petulant whining about the unfairness of the Electoral College to fall back onto this time, even though she has a huge lead in a couple of gigantic states that are very blue, like California and New York.
Trump managed, at least as of now, to get 5 million more votes than she got.
And interestingly, even in the bluest of places, Trump made amazing gains into Democratic strongholds, including in New York City, where Trump had the best showing of any Republican presidential candidate in this century.
Now, as for the electoral vote itself, this is a very conservative count.
There are at least two states that Trump is almost certainly to win, which are Wisconsin and Arizona, that are not counted in this.
I believe Nevada is another, all of which he's ahead in, all of which people who know those states best acknowledge he has no chance of winning.
But the electoral count...
Currently stands at Donald Trump 292, Kamala Harris 224, and of course 270 is the magic number needed, which means Trump is unquestionably the victor, is now the president-elect, will become the 47th president on January 20th.
And one thing to note is that on January 6th, We're good to go.
Now, one of the most remarkable things is that we kept hearing about swing states.
This group of seven swing states, which was Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada.
And Trump won all seven.
All seven.
We kept hearing how the pollsters had this as a tie that it was just impossible to basically decide who won and yet, yet again, the pollsters clearly Underestimated by a significant amount, Trump's electoral support.
So, here you see what was previously called the Blue Wall, which is Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, right up there, those three states.
Trump won those three states in 2016, which is what led to his victory.
Biden took those back in 2020 by very small margins, and then Trump just rampaged through them.
It used to be called the blue wall.
Trump is obviously turning that into a red wall.
Here you see the entire southeast, which we've been hearing has demographic changes, is no longer reliably red.
North Carolina, which essentially voted for every single Democratic candidate, We're every Democratic candidate up and down the ballot, including for governor, for attorney general, various congressional seats.
All the statewide races were won by Democrats, and yet Trump handily defeated Harris there as well.
And there you see Georgia, where Trump...
Famously lost by 12,000 votes in 2020, and he won Georgia by significant amounts, making incredible headways in Georgia and North Carolina in the counties that are rural, overwhelmingly black voters.
So if you compare those counties, those rural counties that are often red, To Trump's 2020 and 2016 performance, rural African American counties significantly increased their support for Trump, and by far, what made the Southeast so successful for Trump, as well as Pennsylvania and Michigan, is the huge swing in Latino voters.
Miami-Dade is the southernmost county in Florida, and it has always had, of course, a large Cuban population.
It now has other Latino citizens as well, from Venezuela, from other places as well.
Miami-Dade is always democratic.
Because Hispanics have always voted traditionally for Democrats, and there's a huge number, there's a big Jewish population in Miami-Dade.
This is the first time, as long as I can remember, I grew up in South Florida, when Miami-Dade was actually won by the Republican candidate.
And there's a particular county in Florida where it's overwhelmingly Puerto Rican.
And of course we heard from the media and from various celebrities and pundits that Trump had enraged Puerto Ricans that they were going to rise up and destroy his candidacy along with Latinos generally on November 5th because I... Of that joke told by a comedian at a Madison Square Garden rally,
Trump overwhelmingly won that district, filled with Puerto Rican voters with a much greater margin than he wanted in 2016 and 2012.
You can't find any evidence at all that that incident, on which the media obsessively focused for days, because they really thought they had something to hurt Trump, had even the slightest impact.
Latino voters, if you had to identify one specific demographic group, most important to Trump's victory, you would choose them.
Despite the anger of Big Bunny, or Bad Bunny, or whatever his name is, and Jennifer Lopez, and Ricky Martin, because of some joke told by the comedian at Madison Kirk Garden.
Evidently, Latino voters and Puerto Rican voters...
When they think about who should be the next president, have a lot more on their mind than whether some comedian, not even Trump, but some comedian at a Trump rally told an offensive joke about Puerto Rico.
I'm sure they didn't like the joke, although some of them might have and some of them didn't care.
But the idea that this was what the election would turn on, that huge numbers of Latino voters were going to go and vote based on their dislike of this joke, It's such a demeaning perception of how Latino voters in the United States and Puerto Rican voters in the United States think,
how they vote, and it's a reflection so much of the media class who has no material concerns and therefore focuses on issues like this because they have nothing else that they actually care about.
So, excuse me, that's the map.
You can see here that Arizona is still It's still not called.
Nevada is called for Trump on this map, so that's why you see now Trump at 301 electoral votes.
So he's over 301 votes.
I think the last one we looked at did not have Nevada called, and I don't think it had Wisconsin called.
So this one has Wisconsin called, it has Nevada called.
Trump's almost certainly likely to win in Arizona.
And therefore, he'll be close to 310 electoral college votes, which can only be described, especially together with his 5 million vote margin as a landslide victory, as a blowout.
All right, let's look at this article from USA Today.
Now, this is what I find so amazing, is that if you talk to any media person who works in corporate media, And ask them what they've most often said negatively about Donald Trump, what they believe most about him, they will tell you that he's racist.
That's the thing that offends them the most.
He's a white supremacist.
In fact, he wants to wage war on Latinos.
He wants to come and deport Latinos.
Of course, his argument is he wants to deport Latinos.
Latinos who will legally enter the country, not Latino citizens who are legalized here.
But the media doesn't make that difference.
They think Latinos means illegal immigrants that will come and deport.
And yet, no matter how often the media told them, and black voters, and Muslim voters, and Asian voters, that Trump as a white supremacist, they increasingly did not listen and tuned it out.
Here's USA Today.
Shifting loyalties of these voters helped power Donald Trump to an election win.
Quote, And a smaller ship among black voters in key swing states helped catapult Donald Trump to his victory over Kamala Harris as the Republican nominee, expanding his support by peeling off voters from two core Democratic constituencies.
While Harris spent much of her campaign attacking Trump as a dangerous former president out for revenge and power, polling consistently showed voters preferred Trump over Harris to address their top priority, rising costs and inflation.
Now let's just stop there for a second.
Obviously, if you are somebody who is in the middle class or the working class or the working poor, and you just go and interview people and they will tell you this automatically, what they're most concerned by is their ability to buy the goods they need for their family.
There's been massive inflation under the Biden-Harris administration.
There's been rising costs in a way that did not exist for Donald Trump.
And so when the media is telling them Donald Trump is an authoritarian, Donald Trump is a Hitler-like figure, Donald Trump wants to do away with the regulatory agencies, Donald Trump had a comedian who told a bad joke, any of these things, they don't matter.
They matter to people who don't care about rising costs and inflation.
The national pundit class in the United States is very wealthy.
They go on television, they have big op-ed contracts with major media outlets.
They live in upper middle class or upper class neighborhoods in Washington and New York.
They live in a way similar to a tiny percentage of people in the United States.
How could they possibly understand or identify with the perception that most Americans have?
They obviously can't and don't.
Polls have shown over and over that the top priority of Americans is not abortion.
It is not preserving democracy.
It's rising costs and inflation and immigration.
It's not Ukraine.
It's none of those things that the media focuses on most.
It's certainly not the influence of Russia and interference in our democracy.
But you have this massive gap, which we've talked about many times before, that is really quite dangerous between elite culture and its members on the one hand who live increasingly in cloistered and closed systems of information that is completely removed from how the vast majority of the country lives.
And that's why when people say and we're going to show you some examples I just can't understand how this happened.
These people must be stupid and racist.
They're being sincere.
They don't understand it because they don't have the same concerns as the people who went to the polls.
The article goes on, quote, Although Trump didn't win a majority of either group, he won support from about 13% of black voters nationally and 45% of Latino voters, according to CNN exit polls.
In the 2000 election, Trump won just 8% of black voters and 32% of Latinos.
In a major shift, Trump won Latino men 54-44 over Harris.
He had a 10-point win among Latino men overall nationally over Kamala Harris, according to NBC exit polls.
They should say exit polls can be a little sketchy this soon after the election.
They tend to be directionally correct.
We should wait a couple weeks until we have harder, core, more definitive numbers.
But this is clearly the story based on An analysis of Latino-heavy counties and Trump's increased performance of them.
So, Trump won Latino men 54-44% over Harris, an 11-point win after they backed President Joe Biden 59-36% over Trump in 2020.
Joe Biden...
had a 23-point lead over Trump when it came to Hispanic men.
Trump not only erased that lead in 2024, but got an 11-point lead himself over Harris.
Despite running, in large part, on a campaign to deport illegal immigrants, which made so many pundits confused For reasons that we'll show you.
Then it went on.
Trump won 20% of black male voters against Harris.
One out of every five black men in the United States voted for Donald Trump instead of Kamala Harris.
Similar figures that the Republican nominee got in the 2020 election against President Joe Biden.
In Pennsylvania, an even greater 24% of black men supported Trump.
That's one out of every four black men in Pennsylvania voting for the Republican candidate against a candidate who's by dissent half black and half Indian, which makes it even more amazing that one out of every four black men in Pennsylvania voted for Trump, which makes it even more amazing that one out of every four black men in Pennsylvania voted for Trump, while 73% of black That was more than double the amount of black men who supported Trump in the state in 2020.
Trump won blue-collar voters who lack college degrees 55-42%, while Harris won more affluent voters with college degrees 57-40%.
In 2020, Trump won voters who lack college degrees by a narrow 50% to 48% over Biden.
So you have...
Excuse me.
I have a cold, so you don't have to excuse me as I talk, if I cough.
You don't have to excuse me, but I'd appreciate it if you do.
So what you see here is a realignment based on race, but it's really an alignment based on class more than anything else.
And this is what the smarter Republicans like J.D. Vance and Josh Hawley have been predicting for a long time that the future of the Republican Party is a multi-racial working class coalition.
And you're starting to see that come into effect.
And again, since elite media discourse divides people up never by class, only by every other demographic identity, race and gender and sexual orientation, When media outlets talk about diversifying the newsroom as they always do, they talk about diversifying the newsroom in every way except class.
And that's why they cannot comprehend this class realignment based on the perception, the accurate perception that Democrats have become the party of affluent elites and don't care about the working class at all.
And white working class voters originally migrated to Trump, but increasingly Latino and black voters are as well.
Here for the New York Times today, early results show a red shift across the U.S. Of the counties with nearly complete results, more than 90% shifted in favor of former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, according to a Times analysis of election results reported as of early Wednesday.
From the Wall Street Journal, this was yesterday as well, how different groups voted in the 2024 election, key shifts in the electorate.
And it reads, quote, young voters made up 16% of the electorate and continued their shift toward the right.
Think about how amazing that is.
Young voters, who for decades have been left-wing voters or liberal voters attached to the Democratic Party...
Specifically when it comes to young men are rapidly shifting toward the right away from the Democratic Party.
Men ages of 18 to 29 voted decisively for Donald Trump.
And here you see the shift.
And it actually includes women as well.
You have, in 2018, 33% lead.
A 33-point lead for women ages 18 to 29.
2020, 32%.
2020 goes down to 21%.
And then 2024, 18%.
So from just 2018 to 2024, you've had a 15% Point shift of young women away from the Democratic Party toward the Republican Party.
And then here men ages 18 to 29 is far more profound.
You had a Democratic lead of 19 points in 2018, 15 points in 2020.
It was reduced to one point in 2024.
And then Trump He won male voters ages 18 to 29, the Gen X vote, by 14 points.
And he got them to the polls.
That's an extraordinary shift in how voting typically works.
It then goes on, quote, immigration was the second most important issue for voters, increasing to 20% from 3% in 2020.
Of those voters who said immigration was the most important, 88% went to Donald Trump.
And here you can see this as well, where people who say what is the most important issue, immigration, 23% said it in 2018, it went down to 3% in 2020, only 9% in 2022, and back up to 20% in 2024.
And obviously that was a major part of Trump's campaign.
He convinced people that that is one of their top issues, and overwhelmingly those people voted for Trump.
From the Washington Post, how counties are shifting in the 2024 presidential election.
Quote, Former President Donald Trump won the presidency after widespread gains across the country delivered him victory over Vice President Kamala Harris.
Most of the nation's 3,000 plus counties swung rightward compared with 2020.
Think about how extraordinary that is.
Most of the nation's 3,000 plus counties swung rightward compared to 2020.
The Republican shift appeared across rural border communities in Texas, the wealthy suburbs of Washington, D.C., and even reliably Democratic counties in New York City.
Trump widened his margin in rural areas, While Harris underperformed compared with Biden in safely blue cities.
This combination and a rightward lurch in major suburbs and mid-sized metro amounted to a Trump victory in every battleground state where a winner had been projected so far.
Now they're using move to the right as shorthand, obviously, for moving away from Democrats to Republicans.
I don't really think it has to do...
With ideological categories of left versus right at all.
At all.
In some ways you can argue actually that Kamala Harris ran a more conservative campaign.
In terms of just being very traditional, very pro-establishment in her advocacy.
Whereas Trump is kind of all over the place a lot of times.
It really has nothing to do with ideology.
It has to do with the perception of which candidate is going to represent status quo interests whom they hate.
And that was obviously Kamala Harris, and which candidate they think will be at war with the establishment, and for good reasons that is Donald Trump.
Here's the Washington Post showing exit polls from the 2024 presidential election, specifically how men and women voted.
So let's move to the actual charts.
Here, again, these are exit polls, so they're likely to change, but not significantly.
Among men...
Trump won 55% to 42%.
And it won women.
Democrats won 53% to 45%.
Now, there was supposedly a huge gender gap where women were favoring Kamala Harris by over 20 points in a lot of these polls.
And while there was some gender gap, Trump only lost women voters by 8 points.
But he won male voters by 13 points.
And you see that same trend reporting, repeating itself in the swing states, which is a good reason why Trump won the law.
Here is how voters from different age groups voted.
And again, 18 to 29, Democrats did get the majority of young voters, 54%, but Trump got 43% of them.
The Millennials, 33 to 44.
Democrats got one point more than Trump, so it was basically tied.
Gen X of 45 to 64.
Trump had a 10-point lead.
And then for older voters, it was basically tied as well.
Here is by race and ethnicity, and I think this is one of the most interesting and significant changes that is so at odds with the narrative the media has been peddling for so long now with so much malice, so much toxicity, so much destruction.
Here is White voters who make up 71% of all voters.
Trump won white voters by 57% to 41%, so a 16% difference.
Black voters were 85% for Democrats, 13% for Trump.
But again, if you look at black men, that amount was much higher.
And then here's Hispanic and Latinos, which make up 12%, a bigger percentage of the voting population than Black people for the first time, I think, ever in an election.
And the Democrats only won by six points with Hispanic and Latino voters.
Just an incredible statistic.
And then you have other non-white voters here, probably Muslims and Arabs, some of whom were Indians, some of whom Trump won by 12 points.
So you just see this kind of...
Explosion of non-white support for Trump.
Millions and millions and millions of non-white Americans voted for somebody whom the corporate media has been saying for as long as I can remember is a racist and a white supremacist.
Here you see the Alignment according to class, which correlates to education.
For people with no college degree, Trump won that by 56-42%, a 14-point difference.
For college graduates, that's reversed by the Democrats, who won by 13 points.
So increasingly, the Republican Party is becoming the party of the working class, the Democratic Party becoming the party of the professional white affluent class.
We've seen these trends for a long time, but I don't think quite as severe as we have in this election.
And then...
Here, just to break it down a little bit further, white non-college graduate women among white non-college graduate women, so you have women who are not college educated, Trump won by 63 to 35 percent.
So for all this talk about this gender gap, this gender gap was much more of a class-based gap.
It is true that the Democrats were far more popular among affluent, highly educated women.
But for women who are struggling, who live in the working class, who live in the middle class, they migrated to Trump and delivered a 32-point victory.
35% to 63%.
Actually, it's a 27-point victory.
And so you see this Breakdown is being much more about class.
Here's the Democrats winning white college graduate women by 16 points.
White non-college graduate men, Trump has a gigantic margin, 69 to 29 percent.
And then white college graduate men, Trump even won those by three points.
This is the realignment in American politics that we are increasingly seeing.
Obviously, we're seeing it in more substantive ways with Liz Cheney and the neocons traipsing around the country with Kamala Harris, but it really is on this level of who feels served by and coddled by And embraced by the ruling class and who does not.
And that is the strength that Donald Trump has tapped into.
That is the populist anger that he has so successfully been able to channel.
Here is just an interesting stat about Wisconsin, a major reason why Trump won in Wisconsin.
Usually the assumption is Democrats are competitive in Wisconsin because of Milwaukee, which has a very large black population.
But according to Newsweek, Donald Trump's black support soared, doubling in Wisconsin.
NBC News, which polled voters in 10 key states, said Trump's support among black voters in Wisconsin stands at around 21%, while Harris is at 77%.
This is up from 2020, when Trump won just 8% of black voters in the Badger State.
That alone is sufficient to allow Trump to win Wisconsin.
Here is a little bit of a discussion on CNN yesterday, and it's specifically about the massive number of Latino voters, the shockingly large number of Latino voters who migrated from the Democratic Party, freed themselves from the Democratic Party, and voted for Donald Trump.
And these pundits, including David Axelrod and others, are trying to ponder why Latinos would vote for Donald Trump instead of Kamala Harris.
Hang up job.
I mean, this Never Trump whole complex that grew over the last several years, nothing has ever failed as hard in politics as this.
The Lincoln Project, all these people that built millions upon millions upon millions of dollars from Democratic donors, and all the eggs that was put in this basket.
The split was amazing.
Trump got like 94% of Republicans.
I don't think they accomplished anything except probably build a bunch of beach houses.
That's about what they did.
Republicans...
I mean, just remember that.
There was this whole...
Never Trump industry.
Led by people like Bill Kristol and the Lincoln Project scumbags.
And they created very highly funded activist groups, got very rich off it.
And the idea was there are a lot of Republicans uncomfortable with Donald Trump and they're going to put country before party and we...
And the reason you should fund us is we're going to lead the movement to peel off Republican voters who don't like Donald Trump, even though they may not agree with the Democrats, and we're going to get them over to the Democratic side.
And this explanation by Scott Jennings is, it's not about the Latino vote.
We're going to get to that.
Instead, it's about the industry that has cropped up that is the biggest con in politics for as long as I can remember.
These people have made what they call intergenerational wealth.
Getting massive amount of funding from the Pierre Midiars and George Soros of the world with this cynical strategy to try and peel off Republican voters and get them to vote against Trump.
And yet, in this election, 5% of Republican voters voted for Trump.
95% of Republican voters voted for Kamala.
95% of Republicans voted for Trump.
Exactly the same numbers as Democrats.
95% of Democrats voted for Kamala.
5% voted for Trump.
So absolutely zero difference.
Even though they...
Basically, the only place this whole movement exists, this Never Trump movement exists, is on the op-ed pages of our nation's largest papers and in the green rooms of our cable outlets where they constantly put them on as though they represent some serious movement.
That was a major reason...
Kamala Harris walked around, traveled around with Liz Cheney at her side because they thought that was going to help her peel away especially women conservative voters, Republican women voters, and it absolutely did nothing other than make Kamala Harris seem like even more of an establishment candidate by, I guess, saying, hey, remember the people who lied us into war?
In 2003, it brought us torture and rendition in Guantanamo and due process-free imprisonments, serving Halliburton by going to war, serving corporate power by going to war, the old establishment wing of the Republican Party.
Remember them?
Here they are, and they're on our side.
When obviously Kamala's primary problem is that she looks like she just got out of a board meeting of Aetna or some health insurance group She looks like the living, breathing embodiment of the status quo establishment in Washington.
And so to take Liz Cheney around with her and tout Dick Cheney's endorsement fed right into that and obviously had no positive effects at all.
One of the questions that has always been interesting was whether Arab and Muslim voters were going to follow through on their promise not to vote for Democrats because of their anger over how Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been funding and arming the Israeli destruction of Gaza and now Lebanon killing their relatives watching carnage in the places that they're from And unlike a lot of people who are
in the left wing of the Democratic Party who always get spit on and have no leverage and don't ask for anything and get nothing and still give their votes in return, it was pretty clear that these voters were very serious in a swing state in Michigan where Kamala Harris absolutely needs the Arab and Muslim vote because usually it's overwhelming.
Nine out of ten Muslim and Arab voters usually vote Democrat.
And yet these voters showed that they meant business.
Hear from the Detroit News.
Trump wins Dearborn.
Dearborn Heights amid fury over Gaza and Lebanon wars.
These are the two cities in Michigan with the highest, most concentrated Muslim populations.
Trump won them.
Trump went around the country saying, and he went to these places and said, why would you vote for Kamala Harris when she's carrying Liz Cheney around with you?
Remember Liz Cheney, the person whose father invaded Iraq and bombed the shit out of the Middle East, as he put it, while his daughter was working at his side and cheered every step of the way?
Why would you vote for somebody like that?
I don't want wars, said Trump.
I want to end wars.
Quote, Green Party nominee Jill Stein,
who selected a Palestinian-American running mate, I don't actually believe that's true, I don't think Bush Ware is a Palestinian-American running mate, I think he's a black American Muslim, pulled over 18% of the vote in Dearborn, according to the city's unofficial results.
That to me is karmic justice.
The Democrats not only funded and armed Israel without any kind of limits or end, They wouldn't even let a Palestinian-American speak of their convention, including the kind of lame, subservient ones who just wanted to stand up and say, I'm Palestinian and I'm here to endorse Kamala Harris.
They just didn't want to have anything to do with Palestinians.
And the Palestinians knew that, and they said, we're not going to let you spin on us and then get our vote.
Unlike the standard kind of Bernie left, That just follows and snaps into line behind the Democratic Party.
They followed through on their promise.
And Democrats from here on out know that you can't take those people for granted and take their votes for granted if you expect to win.
Listen to what Donald Trump said when he visited Grand Rapids, Michigan.
And he actually visited Dearborn and another very predominantly Muslim town where he said much of the same thing.
Listen to how he talked about the concern to Muslim voters versus how Kamala Harris did.
And why would Muslims support Kamala when she embraces Muslim-hating Liz Cheney?
Can you believe Liz Cheney?
A total loser whose father brought years of war and death to the Middle East.
Why would you support somebody?
If you're from the Middle East or even associated with the Middle East, why would you be supporting somebody with a Cheney family?
The father killed more Arabs than any human being on Earth.
He pushed Bush and they went into the Middle East.
This person cannot be a president.
She's too weak, too foolish to represent America on the world stage.
Now, Trump was so respectful there.
I don't know if you noticed this, but usually when Americans or people in the West talk about Muslims, they say Muslims.
That's the typical way that in American discourse you speak about that group of people, Muslims.
Muslim voters, people from Muslim countries.
But when people from the Middle East say it, they say Muslim.
And if you say Muslim, they notice that and take it as a sign of respect.
Trump even went so far as to use that pronunciation, Muslim.
Why would you vote for a candidate dragging Liz Cheney around when she and her father killed more Arabs on this planet than anybody alive?
And obviously that worked.
I'm sure it wasn't just that, but I'm sure that helped as well.
Now, just to underscore the point about the stupidity of carrying around Liz Cheney, the utter lack of benefit, here is a poll compiled by the group Stats for Lefties that's based on CNN numbers.
Here you can see in the 2020 election, 6% of Democrats voted for 6% of Republicans, rather, voted for...
No, I'm sorry.
This is how registered Republicans voted.
So among Republicans, 94% voted for Trump, 6% voted for Joe Biden.
In 2024, in the election last night, that number basically went a little bit down.
It went from 6% to 5% of Republicans voting for Kamala Harris.
So this whole industry of Never Trump scumbags and these current artist groups and hyping Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney absolutely achieved nothing.
Other than alienating a huge number of people, making Kamala seem even more establishmentarian and vacant of any beliefs than she actually is.
She thought it was so clever because the media told her it was.
Oh, this election isn't about substantive policy.
We're improving people's lives.
This is about saving our democracy, this abstract thought.
But when you're struggling to buy groceries and food for your family, those things, those abstract values don't move you.
When you're a very wealthy cable anchor, you have the luxury of caring more about those things.
And that again shows that breach.
One interesting thing as well is that there has been a lot of talk about the influence of billionaires on behalf of Donald Trump.
We did a whole show about the $100 million that Mary Madelson spent on Donald Trump's campaign.
Elon Musk eventually spent more than that, $120 million or $130 million, maybe even more.
Democrats made a big deal out of this.
Oh, we have oligarchy.
We have billionaires donating huge amounts of money.
Obviously, the Democrats had their own billionaires, like Bill Gates and Warren Powell-Jobes and Michael Bloomberg, who donated $50 million or more, Bill Gates' ex-wife as well.
But in general, the Democrats raised infinitely more money Then the Trump campaign.
Kamala Harris raised a billion dollars, a billion dollars in three months.
And they outspent the Trump campaign in every swing state.
Here in Pennsylvania, where it was the closest, Kamala spent $109 million, Trump $102 million.
But look at the rest of these, all of which Trump won.
Michigan, Kamala spent $81 million.
Trump, $18 million.
Georgia, Kamala spent $58 million.
Trump, $29 million.
Wisconsin, Kamala spent $49 million.
Trump, $15 million.
Arizona, Kamala spent $44 million.
Trump, $17 million.
And North Carolina, you have...
It looks very, I don't know what these numbers here are, because it obviously looks like Trump spent very little, and yet the numbers there are 32 and 27, but what's that?
Oh, so Trump's...
In North Carolina, Kamala spent $28 million and Trump spent $4 million.
And in Nevada, Kamala spent $24 million.
And how much did Trump spend?
I think $3 million.
So we just have the numbers wrong, but the graphic is correct.
Trump won every single...
Trump won every single one of these states.
Ah, these numbers are the total.
So, yeah, the total.
Trump spent so little in North Carolina and Nevada that there's not even enough space to put down how much he actually spent.
The Democrats had, by far, the biggest amount of spending on this election.
I just want to show you a couple of reactions to what happened here.
Throughout the week leading up to the election and then also in response to it as well.
So, as I was saying, people in cable studios and on the op-ed pages make a great deal of money.
They never interact with people who are ordinary voters.
And so they have no idea what people care about and don't.
Here was Nicole Wallace, the former Bush-Cheney speechwriter turned popular liberal MSNBC host.
On November 4th, listening to a J.D. Vance speech, and she claimed that what J.D. Vance said here was one of the worst mistakes, was the worst mistake she has ever seen in politics, and basically implied that it would destroy the Trump-Vance campaign just because of this.
Listen to what she said.
And the trash's name is Kamala Harris.
Forgive me one more time.
In two days, we are going to take out the trash in Washington, D.C., and the trash's name is Kamala Harris.
In my humble view, lights out.
Women, you can disagree with us.
We've actually learned to take it for our whole careers all the time in every forum.
But you call us trash?
Oh, oh, oh, J.D. Vance, you just effed up in a way that I've never seen in my political life, and I worked for Sarah Palin.
I mean, what just happened?
I mean, she was essentially implying very clearly But that one comment where she was saying, this is all based on the garbage comment where Biden said, and it wasn't a big deal, he just sort of said it because his brain wasn't working.
The only garbage I see is Trump supporters.
And then in response, J.D. Vance said, we're going to be taking out the garbage on election day and her name is Kamala Harris.
Nicole Wallace said, oh, lights out.
I'm speaking here for all women.
This multimillionaire who works in the studio, who's been in the White House and American political life for decades, she speaks for all American women.
She's here to say that if you call any woman politician garbage, American women are going to rise up in unison and destroy you.
That's how much of a fantasy world these people live in.
Where they're focused on the most blatant trivialities because that's the only things they care about in their lives.
And the American voter obviously could not care less about any of it.
And it's so obvious they do this every day and yet nobody listens to them.
And there will never be self-reflection.
In fact, most of their reaction was to blame the voters for being stupid, for being racist.
And that's the last part of the segment that we have for you that I want to show you.
But before we get to that, we have Lee here, Lee Fung.
I want to speak to him about his view of the election and several components of it.
and we'll be right back with that.
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He spent many years as my colleague at The Intercept.
He now writes most of his work and publishes the results of most of his investigations on his excellent Substack page, which I highly recommend.
We've had him on the show many times before, to talk about The things he's uncovered through that just shoelace investigative reporting.
He also is a contributing writer at the British Journal Unheard, and we are always happy to see him and speak with him.
Lee, good evening.
Welcome to the show.
Lee seems to be a little frozen.
He's looking like a statue pondering the meaning of life.
I don't know if we...
Alright, we're just going to reconnect with him, so...
I think we're...
There's some connection issues.
I'm hearing Lee, but I'm not seeing his movement.
I think we're just going to...
Lee, are you able to hear me?
I can hear you.
Yeah, you're frozen.
The image of you that's frozen is actually a very flattering one.
You're just sort of looking off into space, but you don't look like you're with dementia or anything.
You look like you're really pondering some of life's most complex and profound questions.
So we'll figure it out.
We'll get you moving.
But for now, let's go ahead and just start talking.
So first of all, I wanted to ask you, I think it's so interesting, because you're somebody who in your investigative journalism spends a lot of time following money.
That's, I think, one of the things you do best.
And so often elections are about money and who is able to attract the most amount of donors, the most amount of resources.
And yet here we just had an election in which Kamala Harris' campaign outraised the Trump campaign by a factor of three to four and outspent the Trump campaign in every single one of the seven swing states, oftentimes by five or six times what Trump spent, and yet Trump ended up winning every single one of those swing states despite the massive disadvantage in fundraising.
What do you make of that?
How do you explain that?
Well, there are many ways to look at a candidate and how they shape and control the media.
The reason that candidates raise money and super PACs engage in independent expenditures is primarily the purchase of advertisements, generating paid messages to a targeted voter base.
In this campaign, yes, the Kamala campaign raised more.
Her main super PACs, including the FF, Future Forward PAC, also out-raised the Trump super PACs.
But there is one big kind of glaring dynamic that Kind of puts a wrinkle in all of this, and that's Elon Musk.
Elon Musk owns Twitter.
I think there's very compelling evidence that users who did not follow Elon Musk or follow any Trump accounts, if they follow anything political, if they opened the platform on their phone or their desktop, they saw pro-Trump messages.
They saw Elon Musk messages.
They saw messages backing the kind of Republican narrative.
Is that equivalent to a super PAC? I don't know.
It's certainly legal, what Elon Musk did.
But in terms of just shaping what voters saw and the entire media landscape, there wasn't something equivalent for Kamala Harris.
Of course, there were...
Many media outlets are vulnerable to Kamala Harris, but it's not really the same in terms of how most Americans receive their daily news now from social media.
They stare at social media.
Americans are not reading...
The New York Times on a daily basis.
They're not watching MSNBC and these other pro-Kamala Harris media organs.
They're mostly just scrolling their phones.
So if there's one of the major media platforms that is biased in any way, that can be a significant factor in terms of media coverage.
I take your point in that.
The only thing I would add And push back on a little bit is that of the major social media platforms, Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and others, several others in fact, they're all bigger than X. I think X,
the latest statistics are that something like 18% of Americans ever go on X, even have an account on X. I think the influence of X comes from the fact that that's where so many media and political professionals congregate, and so it kind of punches above its weight in terms of broader narratives.
But in terms of directly reaching voters, X is, and always has been, one of the smallest of these social media companies when it comes to the amount of reach it has.
And I think we've seen...
No, that's true.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
And I would just add that TikTok and Facebook were very careful in this election to Deter media links on Facebook in particular.
They changed the algorithm to make it very difficult to just share any kind of news link.
And given the kind of disastrous effects of censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story in 2020, Facebook was very mindful of actually de-amplifying political content.
So, you know, I haven't seen a neutral analysis It shows that Facebook or TikTok was weighting their algorithm in support of either of the candidates.
They really kind of attempted to steer clear.
And if anything, TikTok in particular moved to censor pro-Palestinian kind of Content that was critical of Israel in a very aggressive way that might have actually shaped some left-wing messages.
It's true that Twitter is a smaller platform in comparison, but this was a very pivotal platform in that this is where a lot of the political memes were not suppressed in any way.
This is where political content was being created and shared on other platforms.
Yeah, so just so you know, we created a much, I think, cooler kind of vibe for your frozen image.
It's one that matches the ethos of our show.
So you can look forward to both seeing your initially contemplative view and then the one that we've created for you.
But we'll just continue.
Lee, let me ask you.
One of the things I think is so interesting is that every time...
Democrats lose, and it's true for Republicans as well, but I think Republicans do tend to have more self-critique.
When Mitt Romney lost a very winnable election to Barack Obama, he had all these kind of autopsies and recommendations about what they needed to do to appeal to a younger audience, including using softer language on immigration.
Trump, of course, came in 2016 and ripped the whole book apart and ignored it all and did the opposite and won.
But they did try to look at what is wrong about our party.
One of the things that amazes me about Democrats is that they immediately start looking for everyone to blame, other than the candidate and the party, and especially the consultant class, which, as you said, when a campaign like Kamala Harris's raises in excess of a billion dollars, these consultants who make their ads, tell them advice, get a percentage of all the money spent.
These people make tens of millions of dollars And their job is to, they only really have one job, which is to ensure that the candidate wins.
And you had, all throughout the day, on liberal outlets and social media and even in interviews, Democratic politicians, basically blaming the voter, saying, well, voters are stupid, voters are bigoted, Trump offered terrible things, apparently this is what voters like because this is the kind of country that we have.
And there's almost never any introspection about what the candidate did wrong or especially what this consultant class did wrong and the messaging that ended up being so ineffective despite how much money they make.
Can you talk a little bit about that aspect of our elections where these consultants make so much money and seem to always evade any critical scrutiny at all?
Well, look, I had readers to my sub stack forward on text messages that they were receiving into the evening yesterday on Election Day, urging them to donate $20, $50, $100 to stop Donald Trump in Pennsylvania to protect reproductive rights.
If they didn't donate immediately, that Donald Trump would ban abortion forever and that he must be stopped in Pennsylvania.
This was going on just...
Maybe an hour before the polls close.
How these dollars, if the recipients have actually donated, would actually make any difference either way is kind of implausible.
But given this organization, I started peeling back the layers of the onion.
This organization, Pro-Choice America 2024, was founded earlier this year.
It claims to be a pro-Democrat, pro-Kamala Harris organization.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Other readers have sent me other urgent appeals.
They're still spamming their supporters to fundraising lists and text lists, really exploiting a loophole in the TCPA. There are spam texts.
Regulations that prevent most marketers from just taking your name from a list and just sending constant updates to your phone.
But there's a loophole, a carve out for political messaging.
So these consultants ruthlessly exploit this loophole.
They send lots of political texts.
They claim to be helping on some hot button issues.
You know, the same consultants run similar packs on abortion rights.
Gun rights, various people of color defending democracy, support Liz Cheney, a variety of Democrat causes.
But you go pack after pack after pack, the money doesn't actually go into the election system.
It goes into the pocketbooks.
Of these Democratic fundraising consultants, text messaging consultants, other kind of online marketing consultants.
And, you know, in fact, just this afternoon, a few people were texting me about my story.
And, you know, I looked up a few of the consultants that were responsible for these text messages.
You know, they just recently purchased about a three million dollar home in Rehoboth.
Beach, Delaware.
They have another $3 million home they just purchased in northwest Washington, D.C. They're getting rich off this campaign fundraising dynamic.
For the Kamala Harris campaign broadly, I mean, this is a candidate who, along with Joe Biden, supported Jamie Harrison for DNC chair.
This is a corporate lobbyist for Lockheed Martin and a variety of other financial and energy interests whose Kamala Harris is chair for running the Chicago Convention.
Minion Moore runs a lobbying firm, is a partner in a lobbying firm called Dewey Square Group that really specializes in corporate lobbying and astroturf lobbying for a variety of business interests.
And you look down the line, the person advising her biggest super PAC, Anita Dunn at SKD Knickerbocker.
This is someone who's advised a variety of the Fortune 100, even Pfizer.
So, you know, this consulting class that That ran the campaign, that kind of inundated voters with messages, that was advising the candidate, that was literally chairing the convention.
These are the people that are lobbyists, that benefit from money in politics.
They're very disconnected from the lives of regular people.
And they don't have a particularly great track record in even running political campaigns.
Win or lose, they seem to profit.
Yeah, not that he's immune, but this is clearly what Trump meant.
When he ran, especially in 2016, against what he called the D.C. Swamp, that he made very clear it was bipartisan.
Let me ask you, we covered some of the extraordinary numbers of non-white voters who migrated from the Democrats to Trump.
And it's been a trend that's been going on for a while, but you see it in this race, even more than you have in previous ones.
And one of the things you wrote on Twitter today was, quote, Dems can reform with one easy step.
Abolish racism.
What did you mean by that?
The party has been beset for a very long time, but this is a problem that has accelerated over the last 10 to 12 years with identity politics, with this kind of crude division of human beings based on superficial differences on the basis of skin color, of ethnic origin, on gender identity.
You see this at the Democratic Party.
You saw the white guys, the white dudes for Kamala, black men for Kamala.
You see it in Congress, the Democratic Party, unlike the Republican Party, has very influential and powerful caucuses based on race, the Congressional Caucus, Congressional Asian caucus, Congressional Black Caucus, of course, you see it in the way that the party kind of formulates its leadership, the way that primaries are run.
When a candidate kind of emerges to challenge an incumbent or to run for office, immediately they're kind of run through the ringer of race and identity.
And you see this kind of scrutiny, not based on experience, Not based on values, not based on principles, and certainly not based on policies.
Rather, it's based on these kind of tribalistic differences that really don't match the reality of the human experience or the American experience.
And I think this election really just blows away the assumptions behind this form of politics that have percolated in the Democratic Party.
Rather than constantly caucusing and segregating based on race and ethnicity, the Democratic Party should return To the simple value of working class and kind of looking at the experiences of people who are struggling, it's a party that historically has stood for change, has stood for challenging the establishment.
Instead, it's become the establishment.
It's become a party of money at least.
And instead of working for real vulnerable communities, they kind of manufacture them with this obsession over race and identity.
It's just very simple.
Rather than Constantly obsessing over identity and skin color, the party could majorly reform itself by simply getting rid of all these caucuses, getting rid of all these clubs, getting rid of all these institutions that are based on separating people based on skin color.
Yeah, I think we see, you know, again, this kind of class breach, because if you look at the people brought onto television or brought onto the New York Times or newspaper op-ed sections to write about these things, they very much see the world through this identity politics lens.
In part because, again, they're not very deprived with or concerned about class issues, but that is not how the vast majority of working class people think you have a lot more in common with one another than they do with some sort of attempt to divide them up by race.
And this is what, as I said earlier, some of the smarter Republicans like Josh Hawley and J.D. Vance have been talking about for a long time, which is that the future of the Republican Party is a multiracial working class race.
Coalition, because ultimately, increasingly, that is how people are perceiving their role in American life, not based on their race or their gender or their sexual orientation, but based on their material needs, which sounds so basic.
But you have this whole layer of Democratic Party elites and media allies and NGOs Who just cannot see the world that way.
Everything they do depends on this dividing up of everybody.
And you see how increasingly ineffective it is.
All right, Lee.
Well, thank you so much for taking the time to come on.
I wish we could have seen you yourself on the screen actually moving around with your natural movements instead of the weird kind of Max Headroom TV effects we use for you.
But people have seen you enough, I think, on my show.
So we'll certainly have you on in more human form next time.
Appreciate you having me, Glenn.
Take care.
Always good to talk to you, Lee.
Bye.
So I wanted to just go back and finish the segment where we picked up before I talked to Lee, in part because it relates so much to what we were just talking about, and in part because I think it deserves the kind of attention that it hasn't really received, which is what the reaction has been to this recognition, this amazing awakening on the part of the Democratic Party that so many of the marginalized groups they believe they own did not, in fact, do what they were told, particularly this amazing awakening on the part of the Democratic Party that so many of
You're going to see a kind of level of contempt being spewed by liberals at these groups that is ugly and barely contained This is just not even 24 hours later.
We've shown you before how when they sent Barack Obama to Pennsylvania to talk to black male voters reluctant to vote for Kamala Harris instead of trying to convince them that voting for her would improve their lives.
He just hectored them and judged them and condemned them saying you're probably just misogynists.
Afraid to vote for a woman?
This is how Democrats behave, always.
If they see someone out of line and not doing what they're told, it always must be because that person has something wrong with them.
It can never be the fault of the Democratic Party.
Here this morning on Morning Joe with Al Sharpton, they had a discussion about this significant increase in Latino voters for Donald Trump, and this got out of hand pretty quickly.
I just say really quickly, too.
Democrats need to be mature, and they need to be honest.
And they need to say, yes, there is misogyny.
But it's not just misogyny from white men.
It's misogyny from Hispanic men.
It's misogyny from black men.
Things we've all been talking about, who do not want a woman leading them.
Might be race issues with Hispanics.
They don't want a black woman as president.
You know, the Democratic Party, I've always found when you're sitting around talking, they love to just sort of balkanize everybody into these separate groups and say, oh, white people don't like women and black people.
No, it is time for the Democrats to say, okay, and you and I have talked about this before.
A lot of Hispanic voters have problems with black candidates.
Right.
And with other Hispanics.
You've got some that don't like each other.
And some of the most misogynist things I've heard going on the next Get Out the Vote Tour came from black men.
I mean, misogynist things.
So you're absolutely right.
It's not simplistic.
And we've got to have real honest conversations about it.
Real honest conversations.
Real honest conversation.
It's time to come down hardcore on these people for their misbehavior.
You see a bunch of millionaires sitting in a cable studio and they're saying, those black voters, those Latino voters who didn't vote for Democrats, they're just bigots.
They're hateful.
They have big problems with misogyny.
This is what Democrats do all the time.
They cannot engage in self critique.
They cannot conceive of why people don't vote for them except for something defective or wrong with the person.
And obviously that's a big part of the perception that people have that liberal elites look down upon them, speak with them and about them with condescension.
Are very snide and patronizing because that's exactly what they are.
Here's former Obama advisor David Axelrod on CNN talking about some of the reasons Kamala lost.
It wasn't a mandate to wantonly It wasn't a mandate to help enrich himself and his friends.
It wasn't a mandate to single out groups in our society for scorn or worse.
You know, I'd love to hear from Van on this, but Let's be honest about this, okay?
Let's be absolutely blunt about it.
There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism in this country, and anybody who thinks that that did not in any way impact on the outcome of this race is wrong.
I'm not saying...
I mean, this is David Axelrod, who worked inside the White House.
For two terms under President Obama because he was first elected in 2008 and then re-elected in 2012.
Blaming Kamala Harris' defeat on the unwillingness of Americans to vote for a black person when they just did it two election cycles ago twice.
And again, you heard that language.
Let's be very blunt about this.
It's time these people get a good talking to from us who understand what they're really about.
Here is a viral tweet on Liberal Twitter today from Ali Samarko.
And she said, quote, white men without college degrees are going to ruin this country.
White men without college degrees, disgusting, nauseating, barely human.
White men without college degrees, they shouldn't even be able to vote.
What's the real problem with white men without college degrees?
They're increasingly voting Republican.
Here's L.A. Mistel, one of the most maniacal people in all of media.
He writes for The Nation.
Sometimes goes on Joy Reid's show to accuse everybody of racism.
This is what he said today.
Quote, Someone said...
And he's responding to this.
And he responded, quote, Watching Latinos chase model minority status has never sat well with black people,
but this is a wound the black community won't soon forget.
As Lee was just saying, this is how black and Latino and white elites in democratic media circles think.
They can only see other people by their racial identity and expect behaviors and viewpoints and Voting patterns based solely on that.
They can't conceive that Latino voters would have voted for Trump because of a perception about how they would be better off.
Here was another viral tweet by a liberal, Greg Hatfield.
Quote, Fuck Latinos and Arabs.
There, I said it.
Hope you all get deported and banned.
Here's another viral tweet by Michael J. Stern.
Quote, CNN has a story where the, quote, where the Harris campaign went wrong.
Nope, I won't read it.
Harris ran a great campaign.
The story should be titled, quote, where the American people went wrong.
Something wrong with the American people if they don't vote for Democrats.
Here's one of the most popular YouTube-ers in the country.
Connor Franta is his name.
And he said the following quote, I have nothing kind or hopeful to say.
The American people are fucking selfish and deluded.
They've overwhelmingly voted to wreak havoc on the entire planet.
And I hope they enjoy the hell they've doomed humanity to.
Goodbye.
This is some guy making...
Probably millions of dollars a month from his massive YouTube platform.
Obviously, incapable of understanding why people may not have wanted to vote for the party of the large corporations and status quo interests.
Here's the longtime white feminist, classic white feminist, Jill Filopovich.
This is what she had to say.
Quote, And this has been the biggest problem with the Democratic Party for as long as I can remember.
If you remember, after Hillary lost a very winnable race in 2016, she had a long list of people to blame.
Jim Comey, The New York Times, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein.
It went on and on and on and on.
Putin, of course.
And the one thing Hillary Clinton never did, or anyone close to Hillary Clinton never did, is to say, what is it that we're presenting to the American people that makes us so unlikable?
Why is it that we are so incapable of getting Americans to like us and wanting to vote for us, even if we're running against Donald Trump?
And I think maybe 2020 concealed that a little bit because of the extraordinary reality of COVID. Remember, Biden didn't even have to campaign much.
He hid in his basement most of the time.
I think people felt like there was a lot of chaos going on.
It makes sense that they would want to reach out to somebody who seems more stable, which is Biden, who's been around forever.
But even that was an extremely close election.
Now I think they're back to having to grapple with the fact that they are a party that Americans hate.
But they cannot and will not ask why.
What is it about them that has made that?
What about their ideology?
What about how they do politics?
No, it's that people are racist and stupid and misogynistic and just not good enough people to appreciate the glory of the Democratic Party candidate exactly like their media allies when seeing why it is that or seeing that they've completely lost the faith and trust of the American public refused to ask what they did to cause it.
Now, one of the things we're going to be covering over the next two weeks, very intensively, in the next several weeks, or probably longer, is starting to watch how Donald Trump's administration takes shape.
Because the big question mark for a Donald Trump presidency, to me, has always been, is he going to make the same mistakes that he made in the first administration, where he admitted so many people into his administration in powerful positions who did not, clearly, did not share his Stated ideology often subverted it simply because they flattered him.
People like Mike Pompeo or Nikki Haley, John Bolton, and on and on.
Or...
And I've heard this from a lot of people close to Trump and from that circle itself.
No, this time he really learned his lesson.
He understands that there's a lot of snakes in Washington trying to slither their way into his good graces in order to undermine and subvert him, not to promote what he wants, and this time they're going to be very vigilant.
I wasn't very reassured when I saw Mike Pompeo, probably the worst person, the worst mistake of Trump's first term, Where Trump made him the CIA director and then moved him to the Secretary of State.
He stayed there all four years.
And in the position of CIA director, he actually applauded to murder Julian Assange.
He was more responsible than anybody for getting the asylum from Ecuador lifted so they could arrest Assange.
Getting Assange indicted.
And just a standard warmonger and neocon for a long time.
And at the very last couple of rallies in Pennsylvania...
Pompeo was there.
He spoke.
He was welcomed by Trump on the stage.
Ben Shapiro said when trying to convince Sam Harris and Barry Weiss that Trump was going to be very reliable for Israel said, I have it on good authority that Mike Pompeo was going to be in a position of very high influence.
Now, there are a lot of different factions around Trump that wield a lot of say, and there's going to be a kind of factional conflict, so that's something that we're going to have to keep an eye on.
I'm sure that's something we're going to be covering a great deal as the next couple of weeks unfolds leading up to the transition into the Trump presidency.
But this election last night could not have been better constructed To show the elite class, the media, how worthless they are, how out of touch they are, how despised they are, how irrelevant they are, and yet the chances that they're going to start to ask those questions, there's been a couple of articles saying, wait, are we really so out of touch that nobody even listens us to anymore?
How can it be that we all agree that Trump is Hitler, and yet the whole country just went by an overwhelming margin and voted for Hitler?
It's finally dawning on them.
Like, maybe they don't listen to us anymore.
Oh, you think?
Maybe they get their information from other places and not from them.
But I don't think it's going to lead to any self-critique.
It can't.
They're too ingrained and too embedded into those cultural assumptions.
And I think ultimately they're just going to wither away and wither away and die and die and die.
They may be floated by the big corporations that support them and can afford to suffer their loss, but...
There clearly is a massive realignment, not just of voters, but of the way people get information and the way people trust information, and that can only be a positive thing given how destructive and how deliberately dishonest corporate media has been.
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