Oct. 7: Whose Lives Matter Most & Least In The Middle East? Hillary Latest Dem To Demand Online Censorship
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Good evening. It's monday october 7th. A very special and solemn day as we
Welcome to a new episode of System Update, our live nightly show that airs every Monday through Friday at 7 p.m.
Eastern exclusively here on Rumble, the free speech alternative to YouTube.
Tonight, we commemorate one of the most solemn and sacred days in all of human
history, the one year anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel that killed a
total of not 1400 people, as people like President Obama said today, but 1100
people, 730 of whom were actually civilians, many of which were killed by
the IDF itself.
just three weeks ago.
We observed another profoundly solemn and momentous tragedy in American history, namely the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.
Those resulted in the death of 3,000 Americans.
But the pageantry and theater marking today's remembrance, not just in Israel but the U.S. as well, is far more intense and mandatory than observations of 9-11 have become.
Since, as Benjamin Netanyahu and other leading U.S. supporters of Israel have told us, October 7th is far, far worse than September 11th was.
In fact, October 7th, this line of reasoning goes, is the equivalent of having 20 9-11 attacks.
As Netanyahu explained, invoking a new math based on the relevant population sizes of the two countries to determine the magnitude of the tragedy.
Even though the death count from October 7th was actually far lower than the 9-11 attack and did far, far less damage.
We've been told repeatedly that it's actually far worse because it's 20 of them for Israel.
Now that reasoning would mean that if a thousand Americans die from a new virus and a thousand Israelis die from the same virus, we must regard the death total in Israel as 38 times larger and thus 38 times worse than the similar death total of Americans, which seems like an insidious way to start valuing human life.
That's quite a selective way to measure lives and impact.
Of course, what Netanyahu are American supporters in Israel Really almost never think about or even consider is how many 9-11s has Gaza experienced since October 7th of last year.
Using these mathematical formula to count Israeli lives as having more weight because their population size is less, it would mean that Gaza, in just the last year alone, to say nothing of all the Israeli bombing campaigns before that, using the most conservative death estimates there, has suffered 21 October 7ths.
And that's vastly more than the weight, obviously, assigned to 9-11.
Of course, you've never heard anyone in the U.S. or the West more broadly describe the mass death and destruction of civilian infrastructure in Gaza in those terms.
It would be the greatest heresy in the West, in fact, to imply that the post-October 7th mass murder and destruction of Gaza by Israel is infinitely worse on every level than October 7th itself.
Just as the U.S.'s multiple violent and vengeful responses to 9-11 were far worse than that precipitating event.
Just in the last two weeks alone, just in the last two weeks alone, more Lebanese have died in the Israeli air bombing of Beirut than died on October 7th, even though the Lebanese population is half the size of Israel's.
And this ultimately is the point we really want to explore tonight on this one-year anniversary of October 7th and everything that came after.
There is simply no explaining the vast, disparate, histrionic, and endless attention paid in the U.S. and the West more broadly to Israeli suffering as compared to the sparse, barely noted or chronicled, and rarely emotional reaction to the far, far greater destruction imposed by Israel. Just to
underscore the point, a ballistic missile attack by Israel on Iran last week that targeted and hit only
military installations and did not injure or kill a single Israeli received far more hysterical rage and
indignation throughout the West than the year-long ongoing Israeli flattening of residential
buildings, hospitals, schools, refugee camps, and other public places both in Gaza and in Lebanon. There
is no way to explain this discrepancy in reaction or the utter indifference to the vast slaughter by
Israel in the Middle East, except by embracing a view that the lives of one group of
people in that region, Arab and Muslims, have far, far less value than the lives of Israelis. That
is what the prevailing Israeli mindset is, almost explicitly, and it is pervasive in the
discourse and the policies of the West as More than any other singular dynamic, that one has become most visible and I would argue most consequential in the last year since October 7th, and we want to take the time to explore that.
And then seemingly on a daily basis now, we report on one Democratic Party leader or Western elite after the next, making their demands for Internet censorship ever more explicit, urgent, and melodramatic.
Over the weekend, one of the most vivid and unintentionally candid statements about the real reason
for this increasingly desperate censorship regime by Western elites came from Hillary Clinton.
And it provides so much clarity about the actual mindset driving pro-censorship ruling class elites
that we felt we would be remiss in not covering it.
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For now, welcome to a new episode of System Update, starting right now.
Given that today is October 7th, the one-year anniversary of the Hamas attack on Israel,
I guess it's not surprising that most media outlets, most governments in the West are
making very dramatic gestures.
taking very extreme steps in order to commemorate the October 7th attack in the most conspicuous and dramatic manner.
All sorts of political leaders meeting with Jewish leaders in the community, religious figures, Welcome to my show!
I'm going to go.
The October 7th attack, among the deadliest acts of terrorism in history, has reshaped the Middle East in the years since.
Here's the Washington Post's obligatory commemoration from October 7th as well today.
Quote, Israeli communities near the Gaza Strip awoke Monday to air raid sirens as they did on October 7th, 2023 during the surprise attacks by Hamas fighters.
The Wall Street Journal, October 7th.
One year after October 7th, Israel sees a future at war.
Quote, the Hamas-led attack has convinced the country that it must take the battle to all of its enemies.
Now, one of the things that happens in terms of how propaganda functions in the West, in the United States, I presume it happens the same way in, say, Eastern countries or Middle Eastern countries.
I'm just not as familiar with those because I don't live in those countries.
I haven't studied those quite as much.
But one of the key propagandistic tactics whenever some kind of violence is about to ensue, some kind of war is on the table that's likely to be sold, is that there's an attempt to pick an arbitrary date in history when this conflict began, before which everything else was nothing but peace and rainbows and love.
And then out of nowhere this singular act of violence took place.
And it not only justified, but basically made inevitable everything that followed from those who were attacked.
This, of course, is what happened on September 11th when, as we've covered many times, all of those Americans wanted to know, rightfully so, what did we do in the world that makes these people hate us so much?
Why do they want to kill us so much?
And of course, there was all kinds of evidence for many years about why there was intense anti-American sentiment in the region.
All of the military campaigns that we did there, all of the sanctions we imposed, the overthrowing of the Democratic government, the bombing.
The putting American troops on Saudi soil, the constant arming of Israel to attack Palestinians and his other neighbors, just the decades of interference in that region, very violent and very brutal, ones that killed all sorts of innocent people, including countless Muslim children.
And had Americans been aware of that, there would have been no question, oh, why did they hate us and why did they attack us?
The answer would have been clear.
Oh, this is retaliation in their eyes for everything that we've been doing.
And you can go and listen to every single terror suspect.
Anyone who carried out a terrorist attack on the United States after September 11th, obviously nowhere near of the magnitude, but there were some.
There were other plots that were broken up.
And I remember a lot of times watching the legal proceedings where these detained terrorists were brought to trial, and these federal judges sitting in the Southern District of New York We look at them with so much bewilderment and disgust and say, okay, you wanted to plant a bomb in Times Square?
How about all of the innocent children you were going to kill in this cause that you thought was so important or these innocent people?
And he looked at her and he said, what about all the innocent children and all the innocent people that you've been killing for decades in our country with airstrikes and with drones and with a nonstop arsenal of violence that you've been dropping on our country?
This is just the first time violence has been brought back to your own.
And, of course, you don't have to think that terrorism is morally justified.
As we said on that night we came back from October 7th, which is October 9th, you can never, in my view, justify the targeting of civilians.
But treating civilians as casual collateral damage is something that is central to American doctrine.
In fact, in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, where Timothy McVeigh, who was convicted of
that bombing, said that the reason he was doing so was in retaliation of a government
that had become tyrannical, as evidenced by, in his view, the attack on Waco, where they
basically incinerated David Koresh and the Branch Davidians and killed dozens of children
inside in the name of saving them, or Ruby Ridge, where they went to a white separatist
branch in Idaho, even though he wasn't doing anything wrong, and killed his wife and dog
and shot at his son.
That was part of this anti-government movement in the 90s, and Timothy McVeigh bombed the
Oklahoma City Federal Building in response, what he viewed as a counterattack against
US government that had been attacking its own citizens.
I'm And obviously the question that everybody asked was there were a lot of civilians inside that building who ended up dying, including a nursery school full of children.
And they said, okay, even if you think your cause was just, why don't you direct your violence more carefully?
Why would you be willing to risk killing innocent people?
And he said that I learned that in the military.
We call that collateral damage.
That wasn't what I was trying to do.
I wasn't trying to kill babies.
I was trying to blow up a U.S. government facility because, in my view, they'd become so tyrannical.
That was the only choice. They were using violence against their own people.
And I was taught to look at unintended deaths like that as collateral damage.
And since the problem is when you're drowning in nationalistic or Western propaganda, the central foundational strategy is to ensure that the standards we impose on other people never get applied to our own conduct.
And that's what ends up being so distorting.
So Americans were convinced to believe that the conflict between the United States and the Middle East began only on September 11th when we were just unjustly out of nowhere attacked even though we were nothing but peacefully minding our own business.
And so they created this arbitrary date, September 11th, that was supposed to have been the start of the conflict between the Middle East and the United States and so everything we did after that was just a response or a retaliation in response to that initial attack when in fact that conflict had been going back decades.
It just took all that time for it to get to American soil instead of just having the United States Blow up people in that part of the world.
They finally were able to inflict a strike on us.
But that couldn't be the realization that people had because then they would have begun questioning, well, why are we in that part of the world?
Why are we doing that? And of course, that's exactly why, when last year, young people on Twitter started discovering the Bin Laden letter, where he sets out all of those grievances that, not Al Qaeda, but that people in the Middle East, Muslims and Arabs, have toward the United States.
And he listed all of those policies of overthrowing their governments, of killing their children, with sanctions regimes, of arming the Israelis to dominate and kill Palestinians.
That's when young people started saying, wait, I didn't know any of this history.
This isn't what was taught to me.
And that's why they had to ban any discussion of that on TikTok and remove the bin Laden letter from one of the only places on the internet where it was, which was the Guardian, because that information is too dangerous because it gives historical context and perspective to what is being presented as this moralistic good versus evil.
Narrative and fairytale that requires people to believe that history only began on that day, that prior to that There was nothing but peace.
Everybody was just minding their own business.
Saw something very similar.
If you ask people, when did the Russian invasion of Ukraine begin?
When did the war begin?
They'll tell you, oh, that was February 2nd, 2022, when the Russian military marched into Ukraine, unprovoked, and they started a war of aggression.
When in reality, if you go back not even a decade, there was immense amounts of conflict and tension
between Russia on the one hand and NATO on the other, concerning the single most sensitive spot
in the Russian border, which is the Ukrainian border that was twice used by the Germans in the 20th century
to attack and invade Russia, inflicting on them tens of millions of deaths of their own citizen
from which they are still traumatized today.
And the view of the Russians is that was always agreed that NATO would never move eastward once we agreed
to allow Germany to reunify after the fall of the Soviet And Germany has done nothing but...
NATO has done nothing but expand right up to our borders.
But Ukraine is the place we're drawing the line.
And, of course, there was a coup, a U.S.-supported coup in 2014, where we removed the elected official, the elected president of Ukraine, Yanukovych, on the grounds that he was too pro-Russian, even though he was elected and we imposed our own leadership.
So now, suddenly, the United States is in Ukraine with access to Crimea.
And that's why the Russians then took Crimea, because they were never going to let Crimea fall into NATO hands.
We had Professor Mearsheimer on our show, I think Jeffrey Sachs as well, explaining All of that history, but most people who were paying attention to Russia and Ukraine only on the day that the Russians invaded believe that history, that history, that conflict began on October, on December, on January 22nd, 2022, because they were encouraged to believe that.
But, oh, everything was fine, everything was peaceful, and suddenly the Russians invaded in a war of conquest.
Exactly the same is happening with October 7th and the Hamas attack on Israel.
In fact, just the other day I saw somebody, I don't recall who, participating in a discussion of October 7th.
And he was a very pro-Israel advocate.
And one of the points he was making was...
In response to someone pointing out how devastating the Israeli bombing of Gaza was, he said, well, that only happened because of October 7th.
Israel wasn't bombing Gaza prior to October 7th, 2023.
And I have a lot of confidence, I'd be willing to bet a lot of money, that most people in the United States believe that to be true.
That only after the October 7th attack did Israel start bombing Gaza.
But if you actually look up Just 2023 alone through a Google search you will find that Israel had been continuously bombing Gaza through 2023 killing huge numbers of civilians bombing civilian infrastructures and schools and have been doing so basically for every year since they withdrew their military occupation in 2005.
They've been killing people in Gaza at will and they've been blockading Gaza as well, and preventing basic foodstuffs from entering, prohibiting Gazans from leaving in any way, including having bombed their airport.
So you're talking about a conflict that was not peaceful, a relationship that was not peaceful, that everyone was in harmony, and then suddenly these evil extremists on October 7th attacked just because they want to murder and they want to be bloodthirsty.
I don't know of a single population that would have withstood what the Palestinians have withstood for the last, you can go back, seven decades since the expulsion of the Palestinians from their land that Israel now occupies to say nothing of the brutality of Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and the blockade of it and the bombing of it.
Who would live under the rule of a brutal foreign military in your land that hates you and brutalizes you and kills you whenever it wants?
Year after year after year after year.
So thinking about October 7th, it's extremely important just like with 9-11 or the Russian invasion and so many
other historical events not to just swallow
the propagandistic narrative that has been fed to us that all of this happened out of nowhere,
that all this was entirely unprovoked and obviously saying that doesn't mean
any of those things like 9-11 or October 7th of the Russian invasion were justified. It's just
understanding the actual historical context that led to these events that didn't just materialize out of
nowhere.
Now obviously in the United States and its mainstream discourse, you will hear almost none of that.
October 7th is spoken of in the most reductive, simplified, moralistic ways as an act of pure good, which are the Israelis, and pure evil, which are their enemies.
And I could show you probably a hundred examples from today alone through the media, but we picked out a particularly noxious representative of the fanatically Zionist mindset in the United States, Barry Weiss, who went on Fox News today with Dana Perino to talk about the sacred violations, the unprecedented evil that October 7th was.
Well, Dana, first of all, thank you for everything that you've done and everything that you've done on this show over the past transformative year.
I think it's been a year of revelations.
You know, if you think back to the main comparison that I reached for and that so many other people reached for on October 7th, 2023, the obvious comparison, of course, was to 9-11.
You know, liberal democracy, Is attacked by a group of jihadi terrorists who butcher and maim and murder and slaughter, and in the case of Israel, also raped.
Rape. The difference, of course, was in the aftermath.
On September 12, 2001, It would have been impossible to imagine young people crowding the cities across the West, including here in America, waving the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah and shouting glory to the martyrs and globalize the intifada.
It would have been absolutely unthinkable.
And everyone would have responded to that with shock and horror.
But what has happened on October 8, 2023, and every single day since then, including today, when the streets of this city are going to be flooded, and this is an allusion to the Al-Aqsa flood, which is what Hamas called the attacks of October 7, 2023, to flood the city to celebrate what happened on this day.
Now, that's such a notable attempt to create an equivalence Between the reactions of Americans to September 11th, the actual day or two that followed, and the American reaction to an attack on Israel, because she's assuming these two countries are the same, that Americans have the obligation to look at an attack on their country, the United States, on September 11th in exactly the same way with the same exact emotional response As they're supposed to look at this country on the other side of the world that has nothing to do with them other than the force to finance its military and arm its wars,
that they're supposed to react in exactly the same way to the attack on Israel, even though they're Americans.
Now, there were plenty of American dissidents, even in the aftermath of September 11th.
Who tried to counter this propaganda about how we were just this peaceful country out of nowhere who was attacked.
Noam Chomsky actually wrote one of his most popular books very quickly putting the 9-11 attack in context and it went to the bestseller list of the New York Times for weeks and weeks because it was one of the only It was one of the only attempts to counter that propagandist narrative.
So there was dissent.
And of course, there was dissent throughout the next year as Guantanamo and torture and rendition and then finally the war in Iraq began emerging out of this reaction to 9-11.
And people began dissenting very strongly.
Huge amounts of protests in the streets against the United States and the U.K., And their attempt to invade Iraq or huge amounts of protest against the American government for Guantanamo and torture and rendition and so much else of what was done.
Maybe there was like a week or two of unity, but very quickly the Patriot Act was introduced and then people started questioning very aggressively whether or not what our government was doing was the right thing.
Now, obviously, people in the United States are not going to react emotionally to an attack on Israel the same way they're going to react to an attack on their own country.
And Barry Weiss's expectation that they will, or her belief that they should, reflects what is her mindset and Ben Shapiro's and people like that, which is, no, Israel and the United States are the same country.
And Americans should see Israel the way they see their own country, the United States.
It's not really a separate country.
But in this case, and she mentioned October 8th, by October 8th, the Israeli bombing campaign of Gaza had already begun.
They were already flattening apartment buildings and mosques and schools.
And everyone knew what the Israelis were going to do.
They were going to go on a rampage and kill God knows who, what percentage of the Gaza population.
And that was what people were protesting against.
And the reason they were protesting against that...
It was not because they just started seeing it after October 7th, but because they had seen it for years and years and decades and decades before that.
But either way, yes, I'm sorry, Barry Weiss, people who are in the United States have the right to form the opinion that the primary party at fault in the Middle East is Israel.
We're allowed to have that view.
And millions and millions of people all over the world have that view.
In fact, more governments have that view than have the view of Barry Weiss in the world.
And people are allowed to identify with Hamas as a resistance group that was trying to enter Israel as a way of breaking out what essentially has become an open-air prison.
Obviously, there's no defense of targeting civilians, just like there's not when Israel does it.
But to try and create this equivalence between the unity, the national unity that emerged after September 11th among Americans for an attack on their country and the fact that there were Americans who immediately began protesting what they knew was going to be the completely unhinged and sociopathic destruction of Gaza by Israel is so reflective of how so many pro-Israel fanatics think that they see no distinction between the United States and Israel.
And so the world has changed, not just because this was the largest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, and it was, not just because it happened inside of the sovereign nation of Israel and made Israelis feel vulnerable in a way that they thought was impossible since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.
Maybe that's a problem.
Since 1948, the Israelis have continuously and repeatedly bombed their neighbors and invaded their neighbors and killed huge numbers of civilian people.
So the idea that Israel thought, oh, we're never going to be subject to the things we're imposing on other countries perhaps was part of the problem.
I think it was part of the problem with the United States as well.
Yeah, we can go all over the world and bomb whoever we want and control every other country and put people in underground CIA black sites of torture and kidnap them off the streets.
Because what is anyone going to do to us?
We're the ones who bring violence to other countries.
We're not the country that gets violence brought to us.
And 9-11 was a big wake-up call that actually you can't go around the world doing that and not expect what the CIA calls blowback.
And this is really entitlement.
That they have the right to just bomb and blockade and kill at immense amounts, which they were doing before October 7th, and think that their country is supposed to somehow be immune to the things that they were imposing onto the people for decades, I think is part of the problem.
But it has transformed, I think, the West.
Because what we have seen is that we live among people.
Some of our neighbors, some of our college professors, some of our graduate students, some Broadway producers.
I was re-watching some videos.
They went out and tore down posters of these innocent people, posters of babies and children and women, some of whom are still being held by Hamas.
You would never imagine someone tearing down a poster of a lost cat or a lost dog, and yet here they were tearing down posters of human beings.
And so, as I sit here on, you know, I can't believe it's been a year.
In certain ways, it's really felt like one long day because we're living inside of the aftermath of it.
And so it's impossible to sort of offer like an elegy for something that's still unfolding.
But as I'm sitting here talking to you, I'm thinking, of course, of the victims that you guys just showed on the screen.
I'm thinking of the hostages that are still being held there.
But I'm also thinking of the war for civilization, because I think it's no more and no less than that.
And I think that that is what began on October 7th and what is still unfolding today.
I have 100 questions.
So this is really the crux of it.
You notice there, she said, what she's thinking about and expressing compassion for her.
The victims on October 7th, the Israelis who felt afraid, the Israeli hostages who were taken.
And the primary Israeli propaganda has always tried to be that Israel fights the same enemies that threaten the United States, as though Hezbollah and Hamas pose any threat whatsoever to the United States.
But the fact that she's thinking about What she's not thinking about is what was being shown on the screen as she spoke.
Which was rubble on October 8th from Gaza.
And then the far, far, far, far greater number of people who have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces and Israeli bombs that the U.S. provides since October 8th, since October 7th.
That isn't anything she's thinking about at all.
Or the people who are now internally displaced in Gaza, which is 90% of the population, the 25% of the Lebanese population that's displaced.
The 2,000 people in Lebanon who have been killed as we've seen apartment buildings and mosques detonated and exploded in Beirut because Barry Weiss and so many people like her believe that the value of a Jewish life is so much greater than the value of the Arab life or the Muslim life even the innocent among them that there's just no point in even comparing them Now, here's what I'm thinking about, and I think here's what any decent person ought to be thinking about today, which is exactly what's been happening by Israel, not to it, since October 7th.
And there have been so many atrocities documented of attacks on aid workers and schools, and we've all seen endless video of children who have been blown up.
Here from DropSite News, the new website founded by my former Intercept colleagues, Ryan Grimm and Jeremy Scahill.
Just as one example, this is just from today, Gaza update.
Israeli forces have just struck the Jabela refugee camp, killing at least eight Palestinians.
Earlier, at least 12 people were killed across Gaza amid continued bombardment.
Five were killed in a bombing of a gathering in Beir al-Najah, west of Jabala.
Four were killed in an attack on a house in Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza.
One killed in a drone attack.
One killed in an attack on Sheikh Radwan Lake, north of Gaza City.
One killed in an attack on a house southeast of Gaza City.
Ana Al-Sharif reports, quote, the occupation forces are currently carrying out
horrific massacres throughout northern Gaza.
Dozens lay dead in streets with people trapped in their homes
under sniper bullets and artillery shells while ambulance crews are unable to reach them
due to the continuous targeting.
These are children whose bodies are blown apart.
Not a year ago, but yesterday.
Thank you.
Why is Barry Weiss not thinking about them?
Why is nobody on Fox News talking about them?
It's only because they look at a Palestinian baby or a Lebanese baby and they're willing to just in passing say, oh yeah, I find that very terrible.
But you can tell by their focus, their behavior, their emotional response, their constant justifications that they don't actually place much value on those lives at all because As Norman Finkelstein said on our show, they're Jewish supremacists.
That's what Israel is based on, is the idea of Jewish supremacy inside Israel.
And I believe there's a lot of people in the West who also believe that Arab and Muslim life lacks value because they see Arab and Muslims as some kind of primitive horde that threatens the United States and therefore is happy when Israel kills as many of them as they can.
I think it's a very sociopathic way of looking at this conflict that has driven much of the Western reaction.
Here also from DropSite News is a video showing the situation at the Jabalia Hospital.
As you know, there are barely any hospitals left in Gaza.
The whole health system has basically been destroyed.
Hospitals have been destroyed.
And here is just a little bit of things that Barry Weiss and that crowd Fox News
aren't thinking about at all today.
I mean, I probably should have given a little bit of warning, but we're so numb to these
kind of videos since they've been happening every day out of Gaza.
you Young kids and babies and mothers and grandmothers just blown apart, laying on the floor in a hospital because there's no working, functional health care system that can even treat their injuries because those hospitals have all been blown up.
Here's what Israel did today.
Not six months ago or two months ago or last year, but today in Lebanon.
From the BBC, quote, Israeli strike kills 10 firefighters in South Lebanon, authorities say.
At least 10 firefighters have been killed in an Israeli airstrike in a border area in southern Lebanon, the Lebanese health
minister says.
A statement said the firefighters had been, quote, ready to go out on rescue missions from a municipal building in Bar
East when it was struck overnight.
Three weeks of intense Israeli strikes and other attacks in Lebanon have killed more than 1,400 people.
More than the number killed on October 7th, including 22 on Sunday, and displaced another 1.2 million, according to
Lebanese authorities.
Think of that. That's 25% of the country internally displaced.
90 to 95% of the people in Gaza are as well.
And it's likely to get worse now with the intensified bombing of northern Gaza.
Here from the Washington Post on what's been going on in Lebanon as well, and it's extraordinary
how just compare it, how little attention, I'm talking about emotional attention, grieving,
anger, these sorts of things get in the West compared to the Israelis who died a year ago.
The Washington Post, health workers in Lebanon describe a deadly Israeli attack on their
colleagues in Fort Fearmoor.
A hospital director in southern Lebanon says Israel's military struck outside its gates
without warning on Friday, killing seven paramedics and forcing the facility to close.
Israel's military strike outside the gates of a hospital in southern Lebanon without
warning on Friday, killing seven paramedics and forcing the facility to close.
The hospital director told that to the Associated Press a day after one of the most deadly attacks
on health workers in the week since fighting escalated between Israel and Hezbollah.
The account of the Friday airstrikes that flung hospital doors off their hinges, flung
hospital doors off their hinges and shattered glass was the latest detail attacks that Lebanon's
health ministry says have killed dozens of health workers.
Bar Jaoun, hospital director, said that even before Friday's attacks, ambulance crews in
the area were so reluctant to operate that the facility had not received anyone wounded
Quote, we have not been able to work.
There was fear and panic among the staff, he said.
And you can see that what's being done in Lebanon was exactly what was being done gradually and has been done in Gaza.
Not just targeted killings, but terrorizing the entire population by flattening apartment buildings.
We've seen that many times.
Killing hundreds and hundreds of people at once.
Even the Israeli government admits they weren't terrorists.
They were just people who happened to be in the vicinity of one or two they wanted to kill.
And now the worst, most unconscionable thing, which is targeting the hospitals and the healthcare system
that treats the people who are severely injured, making it so that doctors can't function
in the places that Israel is terrorizing with, air bombs that just drop anywhere.
From Al Jazeera on October 6th, that's yesterday, Israeli strike on Gaza Mosque turns a shelter,
the Israeli strike on Gaza Mosque turned shelter and shelter kills at least 26, quote,
Israel bombs mosque and school, sheltering displaced people in the central town
of Deir el-Bala, killing at least 26 people.
Israeli strikes on the Roshed School and Al Asqa Martyrs Mosque in central Gaza
have killed at least 26 Palestinians, officials said, as Israel intensified its bombing of northern Gaza
and southern Beirut in its widening war across the region.
The strike hit the mosque and school where displaced people were sheltering
near the main hospital in the center town of Deir el-Bala.
Israel said it targeted a Hamas command and control center embedded among civilians without providing any evidence to back its claims.
Now, obviously, whenever you show babies being blown up at the hands of the Israelis, the bombs they use that are provided by the United States...
Every Israel supporter is trained to immediately say, oh, they were targeting a terrorist, even though they have no idea who was there.
Because the IDF says that immediately, and that's how they immediately clear their conscience, if it was on their conscience at all, about how many babies and innocent people have also been killed.
This is the imbalance that I started off by emphasizing, all based on a really nauseating and sickening view of which lives have value and which ones don't.
And I should point out that the entire world other than the United States sees this not as an Israeli war, but as an Israeli war and an American war.
And all the anger and all the resentment and all the realignment of the world in response to this is all coming at the expense of the United States.
Our interests being sacrificed, our standing in the world, risks on our attacks on our citizens and our structures all yet again to defend and stand by Israel.
Now I don't want to let the October 7th anniversary come and go without quickly noting just how many Incredibly consequential lies were told by the Israeli government and allied media in the wake of this October 7th attack to try and make it seem far more gruesome and inhuman than it actually was.
There were some terrible things that Hamas did on October 7th, like targeting a music rave.
But that wasn't enough to try and depict Hamas as this unprecedented evil, calling it worse than ISIS, which the Israelis needed to do because they needed to be able to justify everything they knew they were about to do to Gaza, basically flatten it and make it uninhabitable.
And a lie after a lie after a lie about what happened on October 7th And yet now we know that so much of what shaped the world's view of October 7th turned out to be deliberate falsehoods that emanated from Israel and its media.
On October 10th, One of the worst ones was a report on I-24 News that claimed from a reporter that they had proof or evidence that 40 Israeli babies had been beheaded by Hamas.
Listen to this video. Out, so really all of these soldiers are doing their best to protect us, the journalists who are also out here because they want us to see exactly what's happening and what they've been witnessing with their own eyes for these past three days.
Many of them coming here Saturday night and they knew that no other soldiers had been here yet and so they Kind of knew an idea of what was happening, but no one could expect that it would be like this, the horrors that I'm hearing from these soldiers.
As I mentioned earlier, about 40 babies at least.
We're taken out on gurneys.
Still, right now, they're going house to house, still evacuating dead bodies, killed Israeli citizens who were killed inside their homes.
Nicole, I had to cut in. It's such a shocking, jarring statement there.
And just for our viewers, we're in a new hour here on the broadcast who very likely weren't with us last hour to understand that you've come in there to find this small community littered with the dead and slaughtered bodies of Israeli civilians primarily.
And you're saying 40 babies, dead babies.
That is what one of the commanders told me.
And you continue to see just...
So that was just invented out of nowhere.
But obviously it's a very jarring claim.
Because it does take a certain set of extreme savagery and monstrous inhumanity to behead 40 babies.
And of course played into the whole caricature of what Muslims and Islamic extremists do in terms of beheading.
So saying they beheaded 40 babies was something that was incredibly consequential and powerful in shaping how the world understood October 7th, but also Hamas.
And amazingly, the President of the United States, Joe Biden, not only repeated those false allegations, that complete fairy tale, but he claimed that he had seen photos proving it was true.
Thank you for the intensity of your support.
It matters. It matters that Americans see what's happening.
I mean, I've been doing this a long time.
I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.
I never thought I'd ever...
Anyway, I... I mean, that is amazing.
That was October 11, 2023.
He just lied and claimed that he saw photos showing 40 beheaded babies, which came from Israel.
And once, of course, Joe Biden endorsed that lie, claimed he'd even seen photographic proof of it.
To this day, I guarantee you that there are a lot of people who still believe that.
If you try and tell them that it was disbunked and disproven, they won't believe it.
One of the best accounts that shed light on what really happened On October 7th, you may remember there were all sorts of claims originally about how 1,400 Israeli civilians were killed.
That was then downgraded to 1,200, now 1,100.
And it turns out that 300 or 400 of them at least were military soldiers and police officers targeted on those military and police bases.
None of that was known.
I just saw Abigail Schreier and the Free Press In a video saying 1,400 civilians were killed on October 7th.
Barack Obama in a tweet reported that same false number.
Once these numbers get and these lies get spread, there's never any correcting them.
But one of the best comprehensive debunkings of what was really true about October 7th and what was not came from the Israeli daily newspaper Heretz in December of 2023.
And basically what they found was...
There was a total of one baby, one baby, killed on October 7th.
Not 40, not 50.
This baby was not beheaded.
In fact, it was just caught in crossfire, potentially between Hamas and the Israeli military.
It wasn't even an intentional killing of the baby, let alone any of the other things that we've heard.
That was how many babies total died on October 7th.
One. Doesn't make October 7 a nice thing.
It doesn't make it any less.
Horrific, but it does show you how many lies, how many consequential lies were deliberately concocted and circulated, how important it is to be very skeptical in all of these situations.
Here's Heretz. Quote, Hamas committed documented atrocities, but a few false stories feed the deniers.
The extensive evidence of crimes against humanity committed by Hamas terrorists on October 7th should not be contaminated by unverified stories disseminated by Israeli search and rescue groups, army officers, and even the prime minister's wife, Sarah Netanyahu, who did exactly that. According to a reporter for I-24 News, an army commander told her that at least 40 babies had been killed, some of them beheaded.
The report above was later quoted on social media often references, quote, dozens of beheaded babies, though sometimes it was, quote, burnt babies or hang babies.
For example, the foreign ministry, the Israeli foreign ministry, published an account by Colonel Golan Vach from the Homefront Command who said that in one house he found the bodies of eight burnt babies.
The ex-account of the Prime Minister's office, the Prime Minister's office, Netanyahu's, also referred to the murder of infants and showed very graphic pictures.
According to the tweet, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu showed the pictures of U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken last week.
Isha Cohen, a journalist for the Altered Orthodox website, Kirkhar Hashabat, interviewed Lieutenant Colonel Yaron Bouskila of the Israeli Defense Forces Gaza Division, Busquilla talked about babies who had been hung on clotheslines.
His remarks were cited by a host of Twitter personalities around the world.
Cohn wrote that he was later informed that the story was inaccurate and deleted the post.
Quote, why would an army officer invent such a horrifying story?
I was wrong, he added.
And that article goes on to document that in fact the total number of infants killed October 7th was one.
Here from Lamont in April of this year, so it took six months for Lamont to put the story together.
The title was, quote, 40 Beheaded Babies, Deconstructing the Rumor at the Heart of the Information Battle Between Israel and Hamas.
Quote, on October 10th, official Israeli accounts related sordid but an unfounded allegation.
Six months later, it continued to circulate, fueling accusations of Israeli disinformation.
But amidst this flood of accounts of murder, looting, and mutilation, one rumor took on extraordinary proportions.
Quote, 40 decapitated babies were allegedly found in the Kafar Azaa kibbutz, one of the communities most impacted by
the attack.
This story and its variants went viral like never before, going as far as being mentioned by the White House.
Not just mentioned by the White House, as we showed you, but confirmed by Joe Biden, who believes he saw pictures
proving it.
Lamont says, quote, however, in the horror of this massacre, in which 38 minors, including two infants, were killed,
there were never 40 decapitated babies.
Here from the Daily Mail.
Golan Ivach, this is where one of the baby-killing events that was also fabricated came from October 14, 2023.
I think we have video of this.
Listen to this video of this Israeli colonel claiming how one particular baby was murdered, not by being beheaded, but by a way that was designed to be at least as emotionally provocative.
I found here two couples, two men and women.
And inside, we found eight babies burned in this corner.
Among other people burned in the house, total 19 people.
They really knew where it was.
I pointed the house.
Did you see that baby yourself?
I evacuated the mother and the baby.
So you saw the dead baby?
Yeah, I saw it. I saw that baby.
Beheaded? Beheaded.
That must have been absolutely awful.
Yes, it was. And accompanied by that were all sorts of claims spread by Israel supporters all over the world that Hamas took pregnant women and cut out their babies from their wombs.
There was another report that Hamas had taken an Israeli infant and baked it in an oven, obviously designed to resonate with some of the worst stories of the Holocaust.
Of deliberate lies and propaganda designed to prepare the world for everything that Israel was going to do.
And it took months for media outlets to debunk it, as often happens.
And of course, it was far too late.
Hear from France 24 as well in December of 2023 about the total number of people who were actually killed on October 7th.
Not the 1,400 claimed by Obama or the 1,400 civilians claimed by Abigail Schreier and so many other people.
The reality is this, quote, On October 14th, Israeli authorities announced a preliminary toll of more than 1,400 people killed by Hamas terrorists.
On November 10th, the Foreign Ministry published a, quote, The final death toll from the attack is now thought to be 695 Israeli civilians.
So, less than half of what we were originally told.
Obviously, it's a terrible number of civilians to die, 695.
It's half of the number of civilians who have died in Lebanon over the last two weeks.
But it's far cry from the 1400, including 36 children who died, as well as 773 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.
The data gives a clear picture of the scale of the atrocities at the Supernova Music Festival, where 364 people were killed, but it also invalidates some statements by Israeli authorities in the days following the attack.
Testimony called into question was that on October 7th by Colonel Golan Vock, head of the Army Search and Rescue Unit, who told a group of journalists, including one from AFP, that he, quote, personally transported a decapitated baby found in the arms of his mother in the buried kibbutz.
According to Bituo Leumi, only one baby was killed there, the 10-month-old Mila Cohen, whose mother survived.
And there's a Times of Israel article as well that very much suggests the same thing.
Now, again, the point here is not to say that the October 7th attack wasn't horrific, that it wasn't a deliberate targeting of civilians.
It was, but it's also to say just how much Propaganda and lies were put into having Americans and Westerners and the world conceive of what actually happened here.
Let's go to this United Nations report because We know that a lot of countries, including South Africa and others, have brought war criminality charges to the International Criminal Court alleging that Israel committed war crimes.
The UN report in June of this year The commission notes that Israeli authorities failed to protect civilians in southern Israel on almost every front, this including failing to swiftly deploy sufficient security forces to protect civilians and evacuate them from civilian locations on October 7th.
In several locations, ISF applied the so-called Hannibal Directive.
And killed at least 14 Israeli citizens.
Israeli authorities also failed to ensure that forensic evidence was systematically collected by concerned authorities and first responders, particularly in relation to allegations of sexual violence, undermining the possibility of future judicial proceedings, accountability, and justice.
The commission documented one statement by an ISF tank crew confirming that the crew had indeed applied the Hannibal Doctrine Directive, which is, by the way, is an Israeli military concept.
That if Israelis are in danger of being kidnapped, They prefer to just shoot everybody, including their own citizens, rather than let them be kidnapped.
And there's no question that the IDF killed a good number of the civilians who died on October 7th as a result.
And they confirmed that the crew had applied the Hannibal Directive by shooting a vehicle which they suspected was transporting abducted ISF soldiers.
In another case, the commission found that Israeli tank fire killed some or all of the 13 civilian hostages held in a house in Beirut.
Now, there was a lot of talk as part of this about the allegations of mass rape and the use of sexual violence on October 7th by Hamas.
And there's been an endless dispute about this evidence.
The New York Times has had embarrassing retractions.
They had to fire a local freelancer who had all sorts of political ties.
Their main attempt to document these rapes and these use of sexual violence in Israel ended up being a controversy within the New York Times for so many different reasons.
Some of the key pieces of evidence, even the families of those people, came out and disputed.
But I don't even want to dive into that dispute because it's not necessary to make the point, which is that let's assume that there were rapes of Israeli women by Hamas on October 7th.
You can debate the number.
As I said, there's a huge lack of clarity about what actually happened, in part because some of those UN critiques that there was no evidence preserved.
But what we know for sure...
I want you to think about how much attention has been paid to these mass rape claims that Hamas perpetrated against Israelis.
Sheryl Sandberg, the longtime number two at Facebook and a multi-millionaire, produced her own film purporting to document this.
It was all over the media.
Why aren't Democrats and Israel opponents condemning sexual assault by Hamas?
And one of the things that is so notable about that is that even inside the United States, eventually there ended up being doubt about whether or not that happened.
Here from CNN in August, just a couple months ago, quote, State Department calls for Israel to investigate allegations of, quote, horrific sexual abuse of Palestinian detainees, meaning...
There is definitely questions and debate about whether Hamas sexually assaulted Israeli women on October 7th.
What there's no question about, none, because the evidence is so overwhelming by different bodies, is that Israel has basically created dungeons where they're free to pick up Palestinians both on the West Bank and Gaza and throw them into prison with no charges, no due process. It's called administrative detention.
They keep them there for six months and then whenever they want they just keep extending it.
It's an ultimate Guantanamo or Kafka-esque black hole except that we know for certain That there have been many allegations and documented cases of torture, including sexual abuse and sexual rape of Palestinian detainees by Israeli soldiers.
Think about how much you've heard discussion of that or anger about that in comparison to the claims of what Hamas did in terms of their use of sexual violence on October 7th.
Again, it's all about whose lives matter and who doesn't.
The U.S. State Department called allegations of sexual abuse of Palestinian detainees by Israeli soldiers horrific and said Israel must investigate swiftly and fully, according to a State Department spokesperson.
There ought to be zero tolerance of any sexual abuse, rape of any detainees, period, says State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller at a press briefing.
This statement comes after Israeli media obtained leaked surveillance video that allegedly showed Israeli soldiers sexually assaulting a Palestinian detainee in Israel's Negev Desert.
PHRI said it had raised concerns about similar allegations at the base in the past, but that this incident came to light and prompted an investigation because the alleged victim was taken to a public hospital away from the detention center because of...
The severity of their rectal injuries.
Quote, Now, let me just say we had on our show as well a representative of the longtime Israeli human rights group and they had just issued a report documenting in great detail the extreme abuse and torture and even use of sexual violence We're good to go.
Just compare how much anger and outrage in the West, how much attention and focus in the West there was on the use of sexual violence by Hamas on Israelis during October 7th versus how much attention has been paid to the very much better documented cases of systemic torture and sexual abuse by Israeli prison guards of Palestinians, including most who have never been charged with a crime, let alone convicted of it.
Again, Our discourse constantly reflects whose lives matter and whose lives do not.
The Turkish government today issued a highly produced two-minute summary of how they and so much of the world see what has been happening.
And I want to show you this in part because I just want you to see That if you are in the United States or Western Europe, you will think that the entire world sees this conflict one way.
And yet the minute you step outside, and it's not just Turkey, it's all over Asia and South America and other regions in the world, who see what's been happening in Gaza over the last...
Year not as something that needs you to commemorate and talk about the Israeli victims on October 7th, but talk about the horrific victims and the amount of war crimes and civilian destruction that has taken place since then.
And here's the Turkish government's version of how they think this is all going to be remembered.
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But everything was in front of your eyes.
Did you just watch it?
There's been so much evidence, so many studies, so much documentation Now what the Israelis have done to this trapped population of 2.2 million people inside Gaza has been a level of destruction unseen in modern warfare, certainly in the 21st century.
65 to 70 percent of civilian buildings are destroyed or severely compromised.
The Israeli bombing of Gaza continues, including in areas where they hadn't bombed all that much before.
The entire civilian infrastructure has collapsed.
There's no education system.
There's no healthcare system.
There's no food delivery system.
They basically have flattened Gaza, flattened it.
And a lot of people thought that was the Israeli goal all along, was to drive those people, Arabs, out of Gaza
because they view that as part of greater Israel.
The level of murder and suffering and destruction that the Israelis have imposed on Gaza since October 7th and they're
now doing to Beirut is really incomprehensible.
And more incomprehensible still, unless you realize this question of whose lives matter and whose don't, is how in
the West there is a hundred times more attention paid to the anxiety felt by some Israeli for having to go into a
bomb shelter for an hour or two than there is to the unprecedented destruction of civilian
life continuously being carried out with U.S. bombs and U.S.
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One of the main focuses of our show is what I think is one of the greatest threats to
the Western way of life and to individual freedom, if not the single greatest threat,
which is the emergence of a systemic, highly coordinated and organized and increasingly
powerful regime of censorship.
That Western states, in conjunction with Western neoliberal billionaires and intelligence agencies, are now engineering in order to prevent what is their biggest fear, which is a free Internet, namely the ability to speak freely over the Internet, to express dissent and information over the Internet, to organize politically over the Internet.
they just decided that this is something they can no longer tolerate because it
takes away too much power from them and diffuses it to the population which was
the idea of the internet from the very beginning. If you read the literature in
the 1990s that was the idea. It was going to let people be liberated from
centralized state and corporate control. Decide what they read, decide with whom
they speak, what information they want, how they organize, and you will be able
to reach large numbers of people and you don't need major media corporations and
their dependence on states in order to do it.
And that is what the internet was for a long time.
And as we've talked about many times before, starting in 2016, two very traumatic events happened from the perspective of Western liberal elites.
First, the British voted in a referendum, Brexit, to leave the EU, something that obviously Western elites were horrified by.
And then just a few months later, they watched as The inevitable that they thought they were promised, Hillary Clinton's presidency, was instead derailed because Donald Trump defeated her.
And you can trace that moment in history to the creation of this completely manufactured, fraudulent, anti-disinformation industry funded by a small handful of neoliberal billionaires and US and Western security agencies that bestow these fake expertise on people.
To justify political censorship as though it were some sort of apolitical science.
And then since then, the force of law has been deployed in the EU, in the UK, in Canada, in Brazil, all throughout the democratic world to enforce these censorship demands to punish big tech companies if they don't comply with state censorship orders.
And we've shown you in the last two weeks We've shown you people like John Kerry and Tim Walz and Kamala Harris over the years and even Hillary Clinton saying that They don't believe a free internet is something that we can have anymore, that all sorts of speech that we've always known was constitutionally protected, things they call disinformation or things they believe are hate speech, they've been saying it's not constitutionally protected, even though Supreme Court precedent leaves no doubt that that's exactly what the First Amendment was designed to protect.
We've shown you a lot of these interviews of them saying this just to make clear how pervasive this idea is among the highest levels of Democratic Party elites but also Western elites.
They talk openly about it now.
They're not even ashamed of it anymore.
And the only reason why I want to show you this clip from Hillary Clinton on CNN over the weekend was because it was such a perfect expression.
She really unintentionally captured The panic and fear on the part of the ruling class elites that is driving them to try and crush their free internet.
Listen to what she said. We should be, in my view, repealing something called Section 230, which gave platforms on the Internet immunity because they were thought to be just pass-throughs, that they shouldn't be judged for the content that is posted.
But we now know that that was an overly simple view, that if the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.
And it's not just the social and psychological effects, it's real harm.
That's exactly the whole point.
And she said it perfectly.
She said, if we don't get a handle on this, If we don't start making sure that we can either force big tech companies to censor for us or that we can do it for ourselves, quote, we lose control.
And that's exactly what all of this is about.
They're perfectly happy to have elections in the West as long as they can control the outcome, as long as they can limit the scope of ideas that could possibly be implemented based on whichever party happens to win or lose.
They don't care if powers pass back and forth between two establishment parties.
That doesn't change anything.
It's just the people who are in government go to corporations and make a lot of money for a while and then when their party wins they come back and nothing really changes.
And that's because, for a long time, these people controlled how Americans think and what the limits were.
But the Internet has really changed that.
The Internet has allowed people to abandon these corporate media outlets that they do not trust, for very good reason, to seek out their own information.
And as a result, American and Western populations are getting increasingly uncontrollable, increasingly unpredictable in how they vote, in what they believe, in what their behavior is.
And the Hillary Clintons of the world are petrified by this.
And they don't know what to do about it.
And they've been petrified about it for a long time.
But once Brexit happened and once Trump happened, they knew that they could no longer allow it.
That things had to get very serious.
And that is what the cause of a free internet is about.
Free speech on the internet.
Privacy from surveillance on the internet.
It is about whether the internet will actually be a legitimate, meaningful, formidable weapon in the hands of people to undermine the monopoly of information and thought that these large corporations controlled by the government have had for decades now.
And whether they will be able to question and subvert and convince other people to abandon their belief and establishment dogma or whether the Hillary Clintons of the world will regain the control to relegate dissent to the margins so that many people can't hear it anymore and that way they can continue to control the thoughts, the information that people's brains are receiving because if you can control the thoughts And the information that people are receiving, you can control exactly what they believe.
And if you control what they believe, you will control how they behave.
And I just think that was such a kind of, she was speaking so emotionally about this.
They feel very emotional about this.
They feel like it's the threat to the thing they most value, which is their singular ability that comes from their superior competence and knowledge to dictate what is truth and what is false, to force people to hear only their views and prevent them from hearing any dissent to it.
And as she says, we're losing control.
She lost control.
She didn't win in 2016, even though she had virtually every establishment institution behind her.
The Clinton machine was this gigantic, unbeatable machine in Democratic Party politics for so long.
And then they watched Donald Trump win, and Donald Trump is...
In this election, like it was in the last election, certainly with a very good chance to win again.
And it's not just that.
It's the emergence of parties throughout the democratic world, these populist parties that were once considered taboo and unthinkable.
It is all raveling out of control for them.
And they understand very well establishment power centers always understand what threatens them.
And whenever they identify what threatens them, They're going to set out to destroy it or commandeer it and that's what this effort since 2017 has been all about to re-seize the means of dissemination of thought and information which is the internet and put it back into their hands so that it's under their control so that as Hillary Clinton says we don't lose control again.
And that's why I think sometimes it might be a little hard to understand why this cause is so overarching.
But if you can't access information, if you don't hear dissent, if you're not free to speak your mind in a way that other people can hear it, only the Hillary Clintons of the world are, then we live in a closed information system.
And in a closed information system, authoritarianism will prevail because there's nothing stopping it.
Only free internet is the thing that can stop it.
And that's why I believe In the context of all the other issues that it continues to stand above and be paramount in any cause that you believe in.
Without that cause, if we lose that battle, everything else will fall with it.
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