15 September, 2015
15 September, 2015
15 September, 2015
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| This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com. | |
| Call the show now at 623-242-CAST. | |
| That's 623-242-2278. | |
| Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show. | |
| Hey, everybody. | |
| Welcome to the Gabcast. | |
| We are plagued with technical issues tonight, everybody, so please bear with us. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| So we're just getting ready to start the show, and I have Star Mountain on my other PC, and Skype just decided to crap out on me. | |
| And so I'm trying to get that back to get Star Mountain back. | |
| But I'm Eddie Dean. | |
| We've got Jazz Munda. | |
| What's up, Jazz? | |
| Hey, how are you? | |
| You seem to be having a bit of trouble. | |
| I know. | |
| I don't know what the hell it is. | |
| You know, we've been doing so good avoiding all these technical issues. | |
| And I don't know what it is. | |
| It's something in the air. | |
| And another thing that I wanted to point out is Star Mountain, she was going to join us via Skype, you know, on a headset. | |
| And for some reason, well, she told us what the reason was. | |
| Her internet connection went down today. | |
| It's been down all day because somebody hit a pole that carries her Wi-Fi or carries her internet. | |
| And so she's going to be joining us on a cell phone. | |
| I don't know how good the quality is going to be, but I mean, what else are we going to do? | |
| We can't deny our audience a gab cast. | |
| I mean, we kind of promised it today, didn't we, Jazz? | |
| We definitely did. | |
| I've been spruking it all across Belgab, so we do have to deliver. | |
| And that's what you did, right? | |
| You've been just promoting the shit out of the show today. | |
| Or last night, I mean. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, you know, I even went into the Bell thread and posted there just to try and bring in some of the new people that have come to Belgab, because I'm sure there's a lot of people that are new to Belgab that have no idea that we do this little podcast. | |
| Yes, I'm trying to type in the password, so I'm kind of away from the mic a little bit. | |
| I have three quarters of it typed in. | |
| Let me get the other couple characters here. | |
| It should just be 1234. | |
| It's 54321. | |
| That'll fool everyone. | |
| And I'm sure Star Mountain, because I told her if somehow if we got disconnected, that she should just call right back in. | |
| But it didn't just disconnect. | |
| My Skype completely stopped on my PC. | |
| And so I'm working on that. | |
| Okay, so it's open. | |
| And now Skype is asking me to update. | |
| Of course. | |
| I should have said yes to update when I started this PC this morning just so I could avoid this. | |
| You know, I've been clicking cancel for the last couple weeks just because I just don't want to deal with it. | |
| I don't think that that's the issue. | |
| I hope not anyway, you know, because I didn't update the software in Skype. | |
| But we'll see. | |
| So it's open and Star, if you're out there and you're listening. | |
| Well, she can't listen because she doesn't have internet. | |
| Oh boy. | |
| Okay, so let's see if I can call her. | |
| I don't know if that will charge me. | |
| Okay, there she is. | |
| There she is. | |
| She's calling in. | |
| Awesome. | |
| Star, are you there? | |
| Yes. | |
| Star Mountain. | |
| Hey, you know, go ahead. | |
| I kept calling and it said that the protein isn't available, so I just kept calling until I could get through. | |
| I'm sorry about that. | |
| I was just telling everybody in the audience what happened is I got An error message in Skype, and it completely shut the program down in my computer. | |
| So I had to restart Skype, log back in, and hoping that you would call back during that time or once I had logged back in. | |
| So here you are. | |
| Yes. | |
| This is the GabCast. | |
| I'm Andy Dean Jasmund and Star Mountain001 is kind enough to join us tonight as a guest host. | |
| Oh, sorry, are you there? | |
| Okay, she's there. | |
| Yes, I am. | |
| Okay, we're off to a wonderful start tonight, everybody. | |
| If you guys would like to be part of the show, I don't know why you would, but if you would like to, if you'd like to comment on anything, I should really stop being so negative like that, shouldn't I? | |
| Okay, so if you'd like to call the show, the number is 623-242-2278. | |
| Again, that's 623-242-CAST. | |
| B-Dub is not here tonight. | |
| I got some news this morning that B-Dub had to go into the hospital last night. | |
| And so we wish him well. | |
| He has some sort of an abscess in his throat, and he wanted me to gross out the audience and tell everybody about the pus in this abscess that he has. | |
| But I'm going to skip that. | |
| So get well, B-dub. | |
| The only other person I've ever heard having an abscess is Beatub's great friend Falki. | |
| Did Falky have an abscess too? | |
| His whole head is an abscess. | |
| Hey, what are you talking about? | |
| I returned to our remark. | |
| So as far as Bell Gab goes, you know, I've noticed that in the past, I don't know, week or two, Art has been adding radio stations like crazy, right? | |
| Yeah, do we know how many? | |
| I don't know how many. | |
| You know, if I would have been a good host and done my show prep, my eight hours of show prep for the GabCache, I would have written all that down. | |
| But all I wrote down is he has new stations in Florida, Vegas, which is, well, in Florida. | |
| I don't know what city in Florida. | |
| He also has a new station in Vegas, which is nice, right? | |
| Right, you know, right over the mountain, as Art says. | |
| So that's nice to be broadcast over the year there. | |
| And he had several that he listed, new stations that he listed from Texas. | |
| Now, are these all small independent stations? | |
| Again, I don't have any further information other than just that. | |
| If anybody in the chat room at ufoship.com would like to let us know if these are huge stations. | |
| You know, I would guess that they are probably just small stations, you know, not huge stations. | |
| You know, I hope they're, you know, competitors to any premier stations or coast to coast aired stations or affiliates in those markets. | |
| So that should help take a chunk out of, you know, out of Coast to Coast's audience. | |
| And that's probably the way for him to go is to, he has to start that way, get the independents on board and start making a dent in some of the ratings of the bigger stations. | |
| Indeed. | |
| And he is talking about, it seems like Art is maybe a little itchy to grow the show. | |
| And I think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. | |
| He's really wanting to grow the show. | |
| You know, a couple weeks ago, he was talking about promotions and trying to do things to get the word out. | |
| He was asking bell gabbers, you know, to help out or to give their ideas. | |
| And I think, I don't think we've talked about this before, but didn't he ask people to call into other radio stations and just say Midnight in the Desert or to say, you know, Arbella's back on the air? | |
| I think he is. | |
| And the editor did post. | |
| One show that I call in, it's not really a show. | |
| It's a request radio site. | |
| And it's all request songs. | |
| And you can give a shout out. | |
| And what I've been doing is requesting Midnight in the Desert by Christopher Gale. | |
| And then I give a shout out to Art Bell with the information about his site and his show. | |
| And you can do a request and a shout out. | |
| I think once an hour I'd have to go back to the site and look, but that's one place, and it's pretty popular. | |
| There are a lot of people on it. | |
| It's called All Request Radio for You. | |
| And it's ARR numeral4you.com. | |
| Ah, so it's not a terrestrial radio station. | |
| It's an internet radio station. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Do they play the Midnight in the Desert by Crystal Gale? | |
| Yes, they do. | |
| I stay on the listen. | |
| I hear the shout out. | |
| You know what? | |
| That's such a good song. | |
| That song fits perfectly for Midnight in the Desert for this for Art's new show. | |
| I mean, it's just perfect. | |
| And, you know, I was listening to the Bigfoot show this morning. | |
| And, you know, at the end of the show, on the outro, he plays the end of that song. | |
| And it's just really, it's just a great song. | |
| It has a cool vibe. | |
| Crystal Gale's voice is awesome. | |
| And yeah, it really works well for the show. | |
| Well, I remember. | |
| Go ahead, Star. | |
| I remember listening to his show when he first introduced it, and she wrote it particularly for he. | |
| And I believe he was still doing Coast to Coast at the time she did that. | |
| So that's a custom made for Art Bell. | |
| Yeah, that's really great. | |
| She did a spectacular job. | |
| Do we know when that was written? | |
| I would say he was still on Coast. | |
| I would say probably in the early 2000s. | |
| I can hear Jazz searching for it right now. | |
| Well, keep talking while I'm searching. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was getting to a point, but so the thing that I've noticed, and I haven't noticed anybody in Belgab really mention this too often because this was a huge problem for Art when he was doing Dark Matter on Sirius XM, is the number of callers, the quality of callers, and the number, you know, his caller base. | |
| That is virtually gone now. | |
| I mean, that problem is virtually gone now that he is broadcasting for free on the internet and, you know, on select few radio stations across the country. | |
| But every single night, Art's lines are, I'm sure, packed full, and there's a great variety. | |
| The last couple shows haven't been particularly terrific as far as callers, but I mean, there's tons of people calling. | |
| And, you know, during the Dark Matter days, it was mostly just bellgabbers calling in and saying, hey, Art, this is Eddie from. | |
| Yeah. | |
| This is Jazz Munda from Belgab. | |
| Ross Wales, Ott. | |
| That's me doing an impression of MV, doing an impression of Jazz Munda. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| I remember a lot of people were mentioning when the extraterrestrial radios were calling Art to be on his show or to have him take them up as for him to broadcast on their radio station. | |
| And who does that? | |
| Except for Art. | |
| I have not heard of anything like that happening before Art started, that he was coming back. | |
| And having stations called him to broadcast on their station is just, I think it's first. | |
| It's probably unprecedented. | |
| And I'm so glad that Art is sticking to his guns as well as far as not altering the format of the show, you know, because regular talk radio, they want to do ads at the top of the hour. | |
| And Art starts the show at the top of the hour, you know? | |
| And he's been adamant about if you want to carry Midnight in the Desert, you know, he's speaking to radio affiliates. | |
| If you want to carry Midnight in the Desert, then, you know, you have to either record it and play it later or, you know, play it or air it like it is. | |
| Yeah, it's sort of that top of the break, that break at the top of the hour, really doesn't give you enough time to go to the bathroom if you're busting to go. | |
| But if it gives us more art bell, then I'm all for it. | |
| You know, the longest break is at the bottom of the hour with the paranormal news. | |
| Yeah, but I want to hear the paranormal news, so it's like you have to wear adult diapers to listen to the show. | |
| And I'm glad that they started putting the paranormal news with Leo Ashcraft in the podcast as well, because early on, the first few shows, that is not in the podcast. | |
| So I'm glad they started doing that. | |
| And actually, Leo is actually a listener of our show. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I had a bit of a conversation through Facebook with him, and I actually wanted to get him onto this show to talk to him about the paranormal news and how that came about and all that. | |
| And he sort of, he might come on. | |
| He couldn't commit because he's quite busy at the moment. | |
| But he was saying he listens to the show. | |
| And he actually was listening live when we had the George Snorri call in. | |
| Wow. | |
| Are you sure he wasn't just saying that to be polite, Jazz? | |
| It sounded like he listened to the show. | |
| Did you verify it? | |
| Did you quiz him to ask him what, you know? | |
| Oh, never mind. | |
| I like when Art puts up Pericast for a bit. | |
| So you can be in the studio with him. | |
| He'll wave and he'll show you the monitors he's got there. | |
| Oh, the Risco. | |
| The Periscope, yeah. | |
| How is that, by the way? | |
| I haven't watched any of those. | |
| I tried to click in and watch one of the videos when he was saying he was going live before Midnight in the Desert started, but I just, I don't know. | |
| You have to download something or I couldn't get it to work on my tablet, my mobile tablet or something, and I just kind of gave up. | |
| But how is that? | |
| Is it interesting? | |
| Yeah, it's good. | |
| It gives you sort of a good insight into how he runs a show. | |
| He has the camera sort of positioned behind him. | |
| So you can see the back of his head, but you can see how animated he gets when he's talking. | |
| You can see him pushing all the dials and the buttons and whatever. | |
| And then when the music comes on, he gets really into it and he sings along or whatever. | |
| I think it's a great peek behind the curtain. | |
| I hear Star Mountain, you were talking about that it's delayed by several seconds to what you're listening to on the radio, right? | |
| Does Periscope, does it have audio? | |
| Like, can you hear what Art is doing? | |
| It does, but you can only hear art. | |
| And you can sort of hear, I don't know, it must be through his headphones or something. | |
| Can hear the caller, but it's very, very faint. | |
| So it's best to probably listen to to your stream and watch, watch the periscope on your phone, otherwise you miss half the program. | |
| I see that Art is is teasing everybody and he said this last night on the show that in two weeks there's going to be a big announcement. | |
| And I And he also kind of linked it to, he said there's going to be a big announcement in two weeks. | |
| And he said, make sure that if you're not a time traveler now, make sure that you become a time traveler before that, whatever happens in two weeks. | |
| And that's interesting to me. | |
| I wonder if those two are indeed linked some reason. | |
| I mean, I'm sure the big announcement isn't that he's going to increase the price of the podcast again. | |
| No, because he just did that recently. | |
| And that's really a big announcement that's sort of housekeeping. | |
| Go ahead, Star. | |
| If he's raising the price, maybe that means there are going to be more videos. | |
| There's going to be more what? | |
| I said if he's raising the price, maybe we'll be getting more options for the show. | |
| Oh, like extras and things like that? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, just thinking about what it could possibly be, what extras do you think there could be? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe what more could we get that we're not already getting? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| I'm going to let art surprise us. | |
| But I'm just feeling the best toward it. | |
| So what do you guys have any idea of what the big announcement is going to be in two weeks? | |
| You know, what I think it's going to be is he's probably got a big radio station or several radio stations that are going to broadcast his show to millions for free over the air, like the old days. | |
| What do you guys think? | |
| What do you think that the big announcement is? | |
| That makes sense. | |
| That's what I thought. | |
| I said that actually on Bellgab when someone in the Art Bell thread sort of asked, what do we think it is? | |
| I said that first up, but then someone mentioned that he also recommended what you said, Eddie, to sign up to be a time traveler beforehand. | |
| So if it's a new station that's going to broadcast to millions, how does signing up as a time traveler benefit the user? | |
| Yeah, you're right. | |
| I didn't think that through, did I? | |
| No, you didn't. | |
| So what could it be where those two are connected? | |
| Maybe is he upgrading the website and he's going to give some sort of a bonus or extra feature to the people who are already time travelers? | |
| If the announcement is linked to the type becoming a time traveler, then yeah, it has to be some value-added service. | |
| But that's the thing, though. | |
| That could be just me reading into it. | |
| You know, how we Bell Gabbers read into harmless comments that art makes and we speculate and kind of overblow things. | |
| I mean, he might have just used that opportunity saying, hey, there's a big announcement. | |
| Make sure that you're a time traveler. | |
| To say, be a time traveler and try to promote people, trying to encourage people as a promotional type of thing, as a marketing kind of a strategy to get people to sign up. | |
| Are you inferring that Art Bell is doing a shifty thing and trying to get people to sign up? | |
| Oh, I'm saying that he's doing the smart business thing. | |
| You know, you take advantage of that. | |
| That seems more like a George Norrie move to me. | |
| It could be, I wish he would bring back his mysterious and reassuring. | |
| I like the reassuring part. | |
| Maybe somebody can, if I can get my computer connected by tonight, if they fix whatever's broken at the tower, I'll wormhole him and ask him, is this one of those mysterious but reassuring things? | |
| Art doesn't seem to be reading a lot of the wormhole messages, does he? | |
| Is that because he's just he doesn't get very many good messages, or is it getting so much so many calls that he doesn't really need to refer to the wormhole messages that often? | |
| What do you think, Star? | |
| I think it's because of the list he's so long with the wormhole calls. | |
| That's one of the things he shows on his periscope during the break. | |
| And he'll show him, here's the wormhole screen, and it's just endless. | |
| Yeah, and there are a lot of tons of wormhole messages that he has to go through. | |
| Yeah, not just that. | |
| Talk about multitasking. | |
| It's also the computer that he uses for the wormhole is to his right. | |
| And yeah, it's sort of away. | |
| So it's not in front of his eyes. | |
| So when he's running the board and when he's looking at the two computers he's got above the board, which contain the normal Skype and the overseas Skype, he, yeah, it's sort of to the side. | |
| So I imagine while he's talking to a guest, he's not really looking over to the right at that computer screen. | |
| So it's only when he actually makes an effort to go over and have a look there that he probably asks those questions. | |
| Right. | |
| That's interesting. | |
| So it's not in his field of vision, so he doesn't. | |
| Yeah, could forget it and forget about it. | |
| I wonder how many he gets. | |
| I wonder how many wormhole messages he gets in a night. | |
| It's going to be thousands, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I want something to have a pool for on the Belgap, I mean, the Art Bell print is how many messages do you think he has a night and the next day he can tell us and whoever gets the closest? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Oh, no, that's inside information, Star. | |
| He can't divulge that to the internet. | |
| Oh, well. | |
| That's proprietary secrets. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm kidding. | |
| Well, it sounds fun. | |
| I mean, we've got all kinds of pools going. | |
| There's a football pool, and I don't know if there's a baseball pool going. | |
| Might as well have an Art Bell wormhole pool. | |
| That sounds dirty. | |
| A wormhole pool. | |
| Ooh. | |
| Well, you know, I still can't get over that terminology of, hey, I just wormholed art. | |
| It just doesn't sound right. | |
| You know, I kind of wish that he would have changed that, but he likes it. | |
| Yeah, he should. | |
| Seeing as he took back the theme song from Coast, perhaps he should just take back Fast Blast. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, maybe Premier owns that. | |
| He changed everything up when he was on Sirius, but now it's hints his show, and he's going to start reclaiming all his stuff. | |
| I would take all of Fast Blast. | |
| I vote yes. | |
| I vote yes too. | |
| So that's three yeses. | |
| And people in the chat room, do you guys have a vote on this? | |
| I see the Mud King and Pony Boy Sunset and Pete and all the usuals in the chat tonight. | |
| If you guys would like to call the show, the number is 623-242-2278. | |
| What is Art's big announcement? | |
| Jaz, are you keeping track of, has anybody in the chat room said what they believe the big announcement is going to be in two weeks? | |
| I haven't really been paying attention to the chat. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I seem to get distracted when I do that. | |
| Yeah, I do the same thing, too. | |
| But were you listening to the show live last night, in particularly the beginning of the show, when Art made mention to a certain Bell Gabber? | |
| Oh, yes, I was. | |
| It's the first time that I've been able to catch a live show in a couple weeks. | |
| Yes, I did listen to that one. | |
| That was, would you like to set that up, Chasmunda? | |
| Well. | |
| Well, so basically, Art gave a shout-out, if you can call it that, to a Bell Gabber who, I don't know, did the Bell Gabber email him or PM him or how did, or was it based on the post that the Bell Gabber did? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know what that would be. | |
| I think he said, I think Art said that he got a message, or maybe he said he emailed Art. | |
| Yeah, so Bellgab user Quick Carl, he is quite prolific in the political threads. | |
| I think he's quite, I don't read a lot of the politics thread, but I know that he's quite antagonistic and is he very quite right-wing, would you say? | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| Extremely. | |
| Yes. | |
| So, but I don't know what happened in those threads, but it seems as if people were making comments about his wife. | |
| Am I correct? | |
| That's what I understand. | |
| Is that what you heard, too, Star? | |
| I've seen those threads, so I have no idea. | |
| Yeah, so I think that's what happened. | |
| I think people were sort of making whatever comments about his wife. | |
| And as a result, he wrote to Art and told Art that because of his treatment on Belgab, he's going to cancel not only his subscription to Art's show, but he would also, to make a real big point, cancel his subscription to Richard C. Hoagland's show. | |
| Go ahead, Jazz. | |
| I just wanted to put that little sound effect in there. | |
| How long have you been waiting to use that sound effect? | |
| I've been waiting for months, my friend. | |
| Oh, yeah, that's perfect. | |
| Okay, I'll cut that off. | |
| I think that Carl was using that as an excuse to stick it to Bell Gab. | |
| So people would think it's Belgab's fault that Art and Richard lost good shoulders. | |
| That was his own choice. | |
| And I think it was manipulative and it sucked. | |
| I agree. | |
| That is manipulative. | |
| Why the hell would Art care if some guy on Bellgab got his feelings hurt and now he's quitting the show? | |
| It's like he's taking his ball and going home. | |
| What the? | |
| What the fuck, man? | |
| And that's what irked me. | |
| I mean, if you have a problem with the foreign, that's between that person and the foreign. | |
| And then he's actually, he's just cutting his own nose. | |
| I mean, he's missing out all the good stuff. | |
| And if he wants to resubscribe at some point, it's going to cost him more. | |
| So, you know. | |
| So, Neil said he did that. | |
| Yeah, and he also said, well, MV wouldn't help. | |
| Or Art read this last night. | |
| The message from Quick Carl says, Well, MV wouldn't help, wouldn't intervene, so I'm quitting. | |
| So I'm taking my ball and going home. | |
| But so, okay, so this is confirmed that this happened in the political threads, right? | |
| I think I remember it specifically, it was in the Donald Trump threads on page 22. | |
| Okay, for I haven't read it yet, but I, whatever reason, I recall that reading, somebody posted that early on in the live threads last night at Bell Gab that in the Donald Trump thread. | |
| What's that? | |
| I said that must be a very incendiary thread. | |
| Well, it's in the politics section and clearly labeled underneath the politics thread saying this thread is not moderated. | |
| So MV doesn't even he doesn't moderate that thread at all. | |
| He doesn't ban people because of stuff that they post in the politics thread, nor does he care. | |
| So why would Quick Carl think that MV would give two shits about or would come to his rescue or help quick Carl or ban somebody who's bothering Quick Carl? | |
| Why would he do that? | |
| It's in the politics thread. | |
| Well, it sounds like Carl is a narcissist, too. | |
| Oh, there's yeah, there's a lot of things with Quick Carl. | |
| We have a call here. | |
| Hello, you're on the air. | |
| This is White Crow. | |
| White Carl? | |
| White Crow? | |
| What's going on, White Crow? | |
| So, what's on your mind, sir? | |
| Quick, yeah, with Quick Carl. | |
| Art just wants to show he's one of us. | |
| He's a Bell Gabber. | |
| He wants to be part of Click. | |
| I think he's the king of the click, isn't he? | |
| He is the click. | |
| I think he wants to be one of the boys at Bell Gab. | |
| Do you think Art peruses the other threads in Belgab? | |
| Oh, I know he does. | |
| I know he does because I read his quote, his posts very closely. | |
| He makes references to other things in there, but you really have to read between the lines, or maybe I read too much between the lines. | |
| But every once in a while, I can catch it. | |
| I just needed to get that in, White Crow. | |
| That's Jazz's adorable little daughter saying this is White Crow. | |
| Have you heard that before, White Crow? | |
| Oh, of course. | |
| Enjoy it. | |
| She had no idea why I was asking her to say that. | |
| It's quite cruel. | |
| Well, he's a noble Indian, a Native American. | |
| So, what did you think of the show last night, White Crow? | |
| Our show last night? | |
| Sure. | |
| It was out there. | |
| I couldn't quite. | |
| The guy had so many different ways to describe nothing. | |
| It was quite impressive. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| Those were some of the comments and complaints in the live thread that he was talking a lot, but he wasn't really saying very many things. | |
| Right. | |
| He was beyond me. | |
| My little brain couldn't comprehend the thing he was saying almost. | |
| So, White Crow, what do you think is going to be the big announcement in two weeks from Art Bell? | |
| Well, I posted something on the chat, and it's just a wild speculation, which I do so well. | |
| Yeah, I was going to say, what? | |
| From you, White Crow? | |
| I cannot believe it. | |
| What about he's moving to emphasis on terrestrial radio and he's going to make the internet fee-based only so so you would have to pay to listen to him on the internet. | |
| Is that what you're saying? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Like I said, I can't see the business sense in that. | |
| Okay, I'm not sure if I heard you. | |
| I'm not sure if I heard you correctly. | |
| You think he's going to go to terrestrial radio and have the internet? | |
| Make a move towards that star. | |
| Yeah, make a move towards that star. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Or, you know, then maximize the free listeners out there by saying, hey, sign up by whatever it was three weeks, or you're not going to get the free show anymore unless you're a time traveler. | |
| Oh, that was one of his things, though. | |
| One of his top priorities was getting the radio out for free to people. | |
| Yeah, he was adamant about that. | |
| I can't see him doing something to charge more or extra money for that was originally free. | |
| So I'm a little itchy on that, White Crow. | |
| But you could be right. | |
| I don't know, Star. | |
| As I said, it's a wild speculation. | |
| I can't see a lot of sense in it. | |
| Who knows? | |
| You throw that stuff out there and you may be right. | |
| And then I could say, see, I told you so. | |
| I'm so smart, you guys. | |
| But you know what? | |
| Nobody. | |
| I seem to recall a couple of years ago in the R Bell thread, the weekend of the Halloween show, Art Bell did his Friday Halloween, Ghost to Ghost, on Sirius XM, and he said, all the cards are in. | |
| Or what was the expression? | |
| I'm all in. | |
| And that weekend, we're like, oh, cool. | |
| He's going to have another host on Sirius, and he's going to take over the weekend. | |
| And then maybe Art might do five nights a week. | |
| Yeah, I distinctly recall that we all thought it was a positive announcement. | |
| No one was thinking he was going to quit. | |
| No one thought that all in meant he was going to leave. | |
| It was he's going to get a new weekend host. | |
| He's going to go five nights a week. | |
| He's going to get all the archives back from coast to coast and he's going to have 24 hours. | |
| Nobody but me predicted he was going to quit, I think. | |
| I forgot about that. | |
| I forgot about the all-knowing White Crow. | |
| Yeah, so then Monday. | |
| Go ahead, Star. | |
| At least White Crow was willing to put a speculation out. | |
| I don't even have a clue what Art is thinking about. | |
| So White Crow, at least you're doing it. | |
| Yeah, I think about things. | |
| Usually we get a lot of trouble. | |
| Do you think Art? | |
| Okay, well, I'll hang up, kids. | |
| All right, White Crow. | |
| Thanks, Bob. | |
| Bye, White Crow. | |
| Do you think Art enjoys being kind of vague or because he admitted in one of his posts that he posts just stuff off the top of his head, thinking out loud, stream of consciousness kind of posts? | |
| And do you think that he does that on purpose just to kind of get a rise out of people on Bellgab? | |
| Well, I think it's coming, it's like becoming a traction. | |
| You get just a little bit, and you're sure going to tune in to find out what that's about. | |
| So I think it's like a teaser trailer, only it's for internet radio and terrestrial. | |
| But I was talking about his posts on Bell Gab, where, well, you know, a good example. | |
| Recently, he said how difficult it is, how much he misses his daughter and his wife because they're on opposite schedules. | |
| You know, he's working in the middle of the night, and she and his daughter is up during the day, and he doesn't see him too often. | |
| And, you know, and then, of course, people run with that saying, oh, well, he's going to quit now because he misses his wife. | |
| You know, it's. | |
| No, no, but also the reason people sort of leapt to that is that he said he started off by saying, you know, someone had criticized him and people had jumped on that person that criticized him. | |
| And Art said, no, I'm open to criticism. | |
| If I quit the show, it's not going to be because of any criticism that people give. | |
| If I quit the show, it's going to be for personal reasons. | |
| And then in another post, he mentions he's, you know, missing his wife and daughter. | |
| And then Belgab, as we do, jump on that and then sort of inferred that art's quitting. | |
| You know, the sky's falling. | |
| Right. | |
| So are you saying that Art says those vague things on purpose to get a rise out of people, or he just, or is it just his stream of consciousness that sort of makes people jump to conclusions? | |
| Well, that's the question I'm asking: is does he do it on purpose, or is it just that it just, it's an accident where he says these things? | |
| Or is it just people of Belgab are, you know, they jump to conclusions a little too quickly? | |
| Probably. | |
| I think it's just he's been posting here now since over a few years now. | |
| And we are his forum. | |
| And also he's made friends with people on here. | |
| I think sometimes he just comes in here like anybody saying and just kind of unloading his feelings and using Belgab as a shoulder for a moment. | |
| And, you know, people back up. | |
| Maybe he's just getting some stuff off his chest to relieve the pressure so he can get back to being his old Art Bell self. | |
| Anyway, that's my take. | |
| You know. | |
| He does think of us as family. | |
| In fact, he in one post, he put my Bell Dad brothers and sisters or something like that. | |
| So he definitely thinks of us as vaguely lovable family members, I suppose. | |
| He referred to us as family more than once, if I remember correctly. | |
| So maybe he's just feeling down or feeling bad and putting that out there and maybe hoping somebody might give him a little upbeat or a cheer-up post or something like that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's just my feeling. | |
| I can see that. | |
| You know, it's, you know, he is a celebrity and it's got to be difficult to carry that weight sometimes, you know, to be in the public eye and every single thing that he says. | |
| And it's not, this isn't exclusive to Art Bell either. | |
| I mean, all celebrities, they get, they're under the microscope lens, you know, and everything they say is interpreted and misinterpreted. | |
| And I don't know. | |
| Like, I think somebody said he just wants to be one of the guys at Belgab. | |
| And for whatever reason, he finds a kinship with people there and with the site. | |
| And, you know, he certainly has been posting more often than I've noticed since the show started. | |
| I mean, the last several days, he's posted, what, five, six, seven, eight times? | |
| Right. | |
| It could also be now that the show has gotten is up and running and it's got legs that go on forever. | |
| Now, maybe he has a little bit more time to come back and post because he said in the beginning, he probably wouldn't be able to post so much because they're probably working up and all this tech stuff that I have no idea about. | |
| But, you know, maybe things are getting smoothed out enough to where he can spend more time posting to us and talking with us. | |
| Yeah, because he didn't post hardly at all the first couple weeks of Midnight in the Desert. | |
| And because I'm sure he was busy as hell and trying to get a handle on the amount of work that he had to do. | |
| You know, I haven't really have no idea how much work goes into producing a three-hour show five nights a week, but I'm sure it's probably a lot, you know, with the help of Redacted and Keith. | |
| I was going to say that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I bet Redacted helped him took a load of work off of his shoulders. | |
| Go ahead, John. | |
| I would love to get Redacted to come to return to the GabCast, even just to give us an insight into what goes down. | |
| And I don't think that's going to happen. | |
| But yeah, I've sort of had a few conversations with her through PMs and stuff. | |
| And yeah, it sounds like she's really busy, you know, chasing down guests and all that. | |
| But it'd be great to sort of know exactly what the producer does. | |
| Is Redacted at Arts Beck and Call? | |
| Is she picking him up at 4 a.m. to drive him to the hospital after he's burnt his mouth on a pizza roll? | |
| So, yeah, in all seriousness, it would be nice to sort of find out what the role of a producer is and how much of the load of work they take. | |
| Yeah, I'd like to know that too. | |
| I'm sure it's probably a seven. | |
| She's working seven days a week. | |
| Yeah, definitely. | |
| You know, it would be great if she could come back to Bellgab just for a guest talk, maybe for a half hour or something like that before the show starts. | |
| Just retouch bases with everybody because we all want to know how she herself is doing. | |
| I second that. | |
| I would love to have her back on the show for at least, I mean, just call in, say hi, and she doesn't have to take any questions. | |
| She doesn't have to take any calls. | |
| But I mean, like I like I told her, she is always welcome back on the show if she wants to come back on. | |
| Did you guys listen to the Bigfoot in my backyard show last Wednesday on Art Bow Midnight in the Desert? | |
| I did. | |
| Yeah, I sort of not sure I believed the story. | |
| It doesn't mean I enjoyed it as a story. | |
| I thought it was a hoot. | |
| But I don't know if I'm buying it. | |
| I think my BS meter was going off the charts. | |
| There just wasn't enough evidence. | |
| Buddy, leave scat for me out front. | |
| There's scat all over. | |
| There was a lot of scat talk. | |
| I was a little bit uncomfortable even for scat talk. | |
| But, Jess, that's your bread and butter. | |
| I know. | |
| No, I think she believes what she's telling us. | |
| I don't think she's lying. | |
| I don't think she's trying to prank anybody, but maybe she herself has been pranked. | |
| That was what I was thinking as well. | |
| You know what I think happened is I think maybe her son's friend or her son himself, you know, because she said that she's seen this Bigfoot out there for 10 years, right? | |
| For a decade. | |
| Yeah, or more. | |
| So maybe back then, her son or a friend of her son or a neighbor got into a Bigfoot outfit and walked through the forest and she saw it. | |
| And then, you know, just to prank her. | |
| And then ever since then, she thinks that everything that she sees and hears, no matter if it's a skunk or a cougar or a deer, that it's the Bigfoot. | |
| You know, the Bigfoot is doing everything. | |
| I like that version of this story the best. | |
| I mean, how else can you, because like Star, I believe that this woman was telling the truth or the truth in, you know, what she believes it is. | |
| You know, she might have been exaggerating here and there, but I believe that she believes that there's a Bigfoot out there, but she's just, her mind is tricking her thinking that everything out there is the Bigfoot. | |
| Well, the one thing I noticed when she was speaking, you could tell she was being sincere. | |
| when her son was speaking, that was different. | |
| There was something there that... | |
| I don't think he did the story any favours every time he got on to speak. | |
| No, see, I didn't, I didn't pick on or pick up on that at all. | |
| Just by the way he spoke, the inflections in his voice, wasn't really so much fun he said, but how he said it. | |
| And that set up a little red flag for me at least. | |
| And also, you mean to tell me that in this decade that Bigfoot has had a love affair with you and has been looking through your windows and eating your pie. | |
| Did you guys hear that call? | |
| As a side note, that caller that called in and says, Art, can you ask her how firm her pie is? | |
| And you heard Art crack up and giggle in the background, but he quickly stifled it. | |
| And she's like, oh, it was a lemon meringue pie. | |
| And, you know, it was a Bigfoot. | |
| Yeah, I call him Footy. | |
| It was his favorite. | |
| You know, I have an audio clip here. | |
| The sound of Bigfoot as recorded by what's her name? | |
| Ellen or Elaine? | |
| Elaine. | |
| Elaine in East Texas. | |
| I want you to listen. | |
| I'm sure everybody has heard this, but I want you to listen to this closely and see if it, well, I'll talk about it after I play it. | |
| I don't want to give it away. | |
| Oh, Sarah, something's out here. | |
| Okay, so the way she explained that is she said there's two different sounds in there, animal sounds. | |
| The low sound, she said, is her hound dog. | |
| And the high sound is what she claims to be Bigfoot screaming at her or the Bigfoot voice. | |
| Sounds like a wolf or something. | |
| It's a coyote. | |
| Yeah, yeah, or a coyote. | |
| I mean, if anybody has ever gone camping or been out in the wilderness in the southeast or the southwest, you know what a coyote sounds like. | |
| And that's exactly what a coyote sounds like. | |
| It's a frigging coyote. | |
| I mean, the way that it's. | |
| I'm here, that's what it sounds like. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, they have different vocalizations. | |
| They're not always going, ow, ow, ow, ow, they're not always doing that. | |
| I mean, it's exactly what a coyote sounds like. | |
| I mean, I don't know how she could mistake that living in a forest in East Texas. | |
| I guess the way she gets around it is she says that Bigfoot is a mimic, and Bigfoot will sound like a bird, or sound like a duck, or sound like a coyote. | |
| That's convenient. | |
| But what she's hearing is a bird and is a duck and is a coyote. | |
| What I'm saying is her imagination is running wild, and she's ascribing these events and sounds and occurrences to a Bigfoot that was probably her son in a hairy blonde costume in 1975. | |
| Oh, her neighbor's just getting free pie every week. | |
| And that's a behind the cross between a Bigfoot and a duck, and then it would be a big redfoot. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It was, I enjoyed the show. | |
| I thoroughly enjoyed the show. | |
| It was a lot of fun. | |
| And I also enjoy when Art Bell has on just regular people like her and regular people like the other guy, the EVP guy and Madman Markham. | |
| You know, they're just regular people, and art seems to be able to really bring out the best in those people. | |
| But yeah, you don't believe the story. | |
| It's like a separate, you have to separate entertainment and fiction. | |
| And you have to just put aside your BS meter and just enjoy the story. | |
| Art is fantastic and that he can really pull out the meat of those type of stories. | |
| And yeah, that's why I love listening. | |
| And it frustrates me when people are in the chat or in the live threads going, oh, this is BS, this is bullshit. | |
| You know, I'm guilty. | |
| Just enjoy it for one day. | |
| I'm guilty of that myself. | |
| How dare you, sir? | |
| But, you know, I try not to be negative all the time about every show and every guest and everything that art says. | |
| There's some people in that, in those live threads who seem to be negative all the time, every time, you know? | |
| Yeah, and that's what I sort of object to. | |
| I don't care, you know, if you disagree with something, fine. | |
| You know, that's fine. | |
| And also, it goes back to, wasn't there something on Bellgab where someone did a post that was taking art to task for not for not verifying or vetting one of the stories that he put out there? | |
| Yeah, I totally want to get into that, Jazz, but we've got a caller on the line. | |
| Hello, you're on the air. | |
| Hey, can you guys hear me? | |
| Hey, we can. | |
| Yeah, what's going on? | |
| What's up, Ponyboy Sunset? | |
| It looks like we lost Star, but I'm sure she'll call back in. | |
| So what's going on? | |
| I didn't mean to kick her out. | |
| I just wanted to comment on the coyote thing because I've heard them in person and they're terrifying. | |
| They really are. | |
| I forgot to say that. | |
| But yeah, when you're out in the forest and it's dark in the middle of the night and you're in a tent or you're standing next to a campfire and you hear that sound, oh, it is terrifying. | |
| It really curdles your blood. | |
| I'm in Michigan and we do this thing called Up North because we have this big state. | |
| Yeah, I heard the howl, and it was awful. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And there goes my Skype. | |
| Yeah, it was still there. | |
| Oh, damn. | |
| We lost her. | |
| I don't know why it's not allowing me to put Pony Boy Sunset and Star Mountain, add them both to a conference. | |
| Because Star Mountain just called back in and I clicked on, it didn't even give me an option to add to conference. | |
| I wonder why that is. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But there are other shows in the chat room. | |
| I think it happened though on Trainwreck before. | |
| Some of the older Gabcasts, sometimes that happens. | |
| And I'm definitely tech challenged, so I don't know. | |
| Yeah, I don't think it's nothing. | |
| It's nothing that you're doing, Star, nothing that Pony Boy's doing. | |
| It's something inherently wrong with Skype. | |
| Maybe it's because you're calling in on a cell phone because that's really the only option that we had to get you on the show tonight. | |
| And Ponyboy is and Ponyboy is calling in. | |
| I assume she's calling in on her cell phone as well, but maybe she's calling in using her Skype connection. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But it's not giving me an option to put both of you guys in the same conference call. | |
| Do you want to have me hang up while Pony goes on? | |
| I'm like, she's then just called me back on this line. | |
| She was having issues with her internet. | |
| Ponyboy, if you want to call back in, you can. | |
| And we'll do just that, Star Mountain. | |
| If she calls back in and I call me when you're done. | |
| Yeah, well, we'll have you, because I don't know if I can call a cell phone number with a Skype account. | |
| Boy, this is a peek back behind the curtain of the Gabcast, isn't it? | |
| I bet you this is a real treat for everybody listening tonight. | |
| Thanks for listening to the Gabcast, by the way. | |
| Didn't Art have troubles when he did the Truth or Trash show in trying to have multiple people on Skype? | |
| And then he ended up just doing it the other way around and taking calls. | |
| He did. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He was having issues too. | |
| So it even happens to art. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So there. | |
| So there. | |
| Well, if something hadn't happened to the tower here, I could do Skype. | |
| And I was just hoping against hope nothing would go wrong, but maybe I was thinking out loud. | |
| Yeah, I mean, it's just it happens. | |
| It's not a big deal. | |
| We're getting past it. | |
| Everything's fine. | |
| We're making do. | |
| And I believe that the people in the audience are having a fine time, just like me. | |
| I'm having a great time. | |
| Oh, I am too. | |
| So back to what we were talking about before, there was a, what Jazz mentioned. | |
| Jazz, do you want to set this up or do you want me to set this up? | |
| The criticism on the latest criticism and incident that happened at the RCS. | |
| I don't have the exact post, but I believe it was two stories that they were. | |
| And one was the story about the Vatican and that the telescope that supposedly, or maybe that, or maybe not, that the Vatican runs called Lucifer. | |
| And then there's the story about the Inuit. | |
| Is that the name of the Eskimos? | |
| Yeah. | |
| That they are saying that the sun is rising or setting in a different place. | |
| The sun's in a different place. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that it has been more so a lot different, more longer days. | |
| Yeah, it's whatever's happening. | |
| Anyway, so, and this person was saying that something fucky's going on up there in the northwest. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| This person, what was his name? | |
| Mebi. | |
| Mibi, yeah. | |
| Maby was saying that those stories have been proven to be false, and here's why. | |
| And Art should verify what he does. | |
| He's losing credibility by putting up stories like that. | |
| So, yeah, is it, you know, I think it's fair for people to be able to criticize art. | |
| But I guess once you've made your point, you don't have to keep sticking the boots in, I guess. | |
| That's exactly what it is. | |
| Meby's first post says, has anyone gotten Art's attention and suggested that he should stop blindly repeating false conspiracy theory rumors as if they were true? | |
| Both the thing about the Inuit and the Earth Axis tilt and the thing about the Vatican telescope being called Lucifer are patently false. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, let me play a little clip here. | |
| And I agree, Jazz, that, you know, people are going to have issues. | |
| People are going to be critical. | |
| And that's not a problem at all on Bellgab. | |
| And I also think people shouldn't be labeled as Davebots just because they are critical, but it's when they continually do it over and over and over again. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's when it gets annoying. | |
| And that's when people at Bellgab come out of the woodwork and start giving whoever it is that won't drop the issue, won't let it go. | |
| They start giving them a bunch of hell. | |
| But I wanted to share this clip with you because Maby said that art didn't art presented this on the show as if it were true. | |
| But I listened back to that show and Art said this before he even read the story. | |
| I guess you understand who the Inuit are, right? | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's how Art set it up. | |
| He says you can make of it up of what you will, but it scared me a little bit. | |
| And then he went into the story. | |
| That doesn't sound like Art is scaring people on purpose. | |
| And that's exactly right. | |
| And I don't think Art has always been very open and honest about that's how he operates, that he presents stuff, and it's up to you to make up your mind whether you think it's real or not. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I agree. | |
| I mean, and Art even replied to this guy's post, didn't he? | |
| Isn't there a couple posts of Art? | |
| Well, Art, I'm not reading a verbatim, but I think Art just said that's how he does it. | |
| He'll present stuff. | |
| It's up to you to make up your mind. | |
| And if you want stuff, let me find the post. | |
| You need your glasses, Jazz. | |
| I think you need to put on your reading. | |
| I've got my glasses down the bottom of my nose like a librarian. | |
| I don't know. | |
| He said something about NBC. | |
| I can't find the post. | |
| That's okay. | |
| That's all right. | |
| And okay, I've got a couple of his posts here. | |
| It says, and this was a direct reply to Maby. | |
| Art says, my show is not a news program. | |
| I do not guarantee anything I say or read is true or is that of the guests I have. | |
| The news piece was posted at artbell.com as with all this stuff. | |
| It's up to you to figure out what you believe. | |
| So he said it before the news story, and he said it to in direct reply to Meibie on Bellgab. | |
| I mean, I don't know how much more clear you can be. | |
| He also went on to say, it has always been so with my show and always will be. | |
| I pull information from paranormal sites. | |
| Not all of it is verified by anybody. | |
| If I pass on something, if I pass something on that I've read, that's all it is. | |
| If you want pure news, watch NBC, and even then you can't be sure. | |
| I think Nebby, or Needy, whatever, he kept coming back and coming back. | |
| And I think from that point, he wasn't trying to get his point across so much as start a pissing match and trying to force everybody to see his point of view. | |
| And when it turns into a pissing match, I go, okay, see ya. | |
| So it did turn into something else, didn't it? | |
| I mean, it wasn't about the story. | |
| I mean, he or she was fighting with several bell gabbers, and it always devolves. | |
| And, well, fuck you. | |
| No, well, fuck you. | |
| Oh, no, no, fuck you. | |
| I mean, they were just, it just goes back and forth. | |
| And did I shock everybody by dropping the F-bomb? | |
| Oh, no, no, no, no. | |
| No, no, I'm talking about it. | |
| I'm not going to listen to the show anymore. | |
| He got really quiet. | |
| I thought I did something wrong on the Gabcast. | |
| I mean, I don't know what else to say about this. | |
| He just made, maybe just made the mistake of not letting it go. | |
| And that's when people jumped on his back. | |
| And, you know, I don't think he's been back since, has he? | |
| I don't know. | |
| No, I don't believe it. | |
| I have no idea. | |
| I haven't been able to get online since earlier this afternoon, so I have no idea what's on the thread right now. | |
| I think it escalated a bit because people sort of straight away accused him of being a Dave bot and things just escalated from there. | |
| So he might not have intended to sort of cause the shit shitstorm. | |
| And I think people at Bellgab probably need to sort of not accuse every single person who's negative about the show of being a Dave bot. | |
| I think you've got to sort of have a look at their posting history. | |
| And if they continue to just be negative, negative, negative, but then continue to, why are you watching the show, why are you listening to the show every day, then I think you can probably start accusing someone of being a Dave bot. | |
| Because I don't understand. | |
| There are some people who every night are very critical. | |
| Why are they listening? | |
| And why are they, not only why are they listening, why are they contributing to a live thread every night? | |
| They're clearly there just to troll. | |
| So, you know, why do it? | |
| Some people like to be angry. | |
| Some people like to be displeased, I guess. | |
| I mean, that's maybe that's their baseline. | |
| I suppose. | |
| Back to the maybe comment or the maybe situation. | |
| That's what we can call it. | |
| It's called the maybe situation. | |
| It seems like, because the poster has only been around for a month, right? | |
| It seems like he had or she had a preconceived notion that Bell Gab was this den of like hard-hitting conspiracy theorists or unbudging conspiracy theorists. | |
| Though I think that there were some misconceptions on both sides. | |
| We have a caller here. | |
| Let me bring him in. | |
| Hello, you're on the air. | |
| Hello, you're on the air. | |
| Are you there? | |
| Going, going, gone. | |
| If I can channel art. | |
| Yeah, I don't know what is going on. | |
| I guess we lost him. | |
| Star, are you still there? | |
| Yes, I am. | |
| Listen, you want me to go ahead and hang up? | |
| Because what, there's 15 minutes left of the show or 45. | |
| Oh, I was going to end the show in three minutes. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, why don't you let me go ahead and hang up so if somebody else wants to call and they can you can if you want to hang up that's cool. | |
| Um if you don't then I mean why don't you just write out the rest of the show? | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you say? | |
| Can I twist your arm a little bit, Star? | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| Good. | |
| You know, although it is difficult, there's kind of a little bit a little bit of a delay between your cell phone and the audio, and that makes it kind of challenging. | |
| But you know what? | |
| We'll do next time when your internet is up, we'll have you back on, and that should make things so much easier for everybody. | |
| Your audio will be better, you know, because it's also kind of difficult to hear what you're saying sometimes. | |
| But all that is is it's just a crappy cell phone going through Skype. | |
| I mean, that's all that is. | |
| We'll figure out some other time later on down the road where you can join us on a Skype headset and we should have the show that's much easier to hear too. | |
| Yeah, because I'm sure it's probably not too easy for you to hear us as well. | |
| You know. | |
| Yes, it sounds a little choppy at times. | |
| There was one point there was kind of a pop and then you came in loud and clear like I had a headset on for about two or three minutes and then it went back to being cell phone-ish again. | |
| Yeah, we're just plagued with technical issues today and I apologize to everybody, but I believe it's Jasmunda's fault. | |
| Yes, it always is. | |
| That's the default position of this show. | |
| Hey, can I ask you guys as well, what did you think? | |
| And if you listen, did you listen on Friday night to the open lines? | |
| And what did you think about the debate format that Art was trying to create? | |
| Go ahead, Star. | |
| I didn't listen to the show, so I really don't have a comment. | |
| How dare you. | |
| I'm trying to, it was. | |
| Oh, it was the atheist trying to get Christians to come in to have a debate. | |
| Yeah, so he started off the show. | |
| He had on a guy who believed that the world was going to end on the 23rd of September. | |
| And he wanted someone to come on and debate with that guy whether the world was going to end. | |
| And I actually thought that's a bit of a silly sort of debate. | |
| I mean, if someone thinks the world's going to end, how are you going to debate with them that the world's not going to end? | |
| I mean, there's no way to prove it. | |
| And I guess the same can be said about an atheist and someone who believes. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm not too convinced with the whole debate format of open lines. | |
| I wasn't either, but it almost sounded like, okay, if you vote this way, this is what's going to happen. | |
| If you vote that way, that's what's going to happen. | |
| And, well, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. | |
| I'm not going to put too much thought into worrying about it because if it is going to happen, I don't want it to ruin what I have left, what time I have left. | |
| And if it's not going to happen, I don't want to waste time worrying about it. | |
| That's a healthy attitude. | |
| You know what? | |
| Why would you even want to waste your time worrying if the world is really going to end on the 23rd? | |
| Why would you, I mean, if the world is going to end and you have no hope, humanity is going to be extinguished from this earth. | |
| Why would you even want to know? | |
| Just to have fun? | |
| If I do, I'm out in the middle of the sticks in the rural area. | |
| We don't even have any manhole covers here. | |
| We have some irrigation ditches, but I don't think that's going to do much. | |
| I didn't listen to Friday's debate, but I did really enjoy the debate that they did earlier, I don't know, a couple weeks ago. | |
| And I'm trying to recall what it was. | |
| Oh, it was the Flat Earth Society, the Flat Earth Guy, and then that scientist. | |
| And I really there's a difference between those two debates. | |
| That was a debate that was pre-set up that people were prepared for. | |
| The format on open lines that Art was trying to do was just have people call in with sort of no notice and then have a debate. | |
| And I don't think people may not want to hear a debate between two people that, you know, we have no interest in or whatever for two callers having a debate with each other. | |
| I think I would just prefer straight out open lines. | |
| Or if they're going to have a debate, have a debate between two people who are very knowledgeable on the subjects. | |
| Maybe the subjects that he brought up was an atheist versus a believer. | |
| It's just not my cup of tea. | |
| Yeah, you know what? | |
| Politics is kind of a tricky subject. | |
| I probably would not enjoy that. | |
| But if it was a train wreck, like kind of sounded like it did from what I heard or read on the threads, that the atheist really cleaned the floor with the believer. | |
| Or the believer didn't have any. | |
| Or maybe I got it the other way around. | |
| Do you guys have a problem? | |
| He had sort of an atheist on the line for quite a while trying to and then was taking just regular open line calls and was sort of looking for someone who wanted to debate the atheist. | |
| And he bought on a few people over the few hours to debate this guy, but they obviously weren't prepared to debate or whatever. | |
| And it just sort of the whole debate format, I think, fell a bit flat. | |
| Yeah, I don't fault art for trying to do stuff new, off the cuff kind of a thing. | |
| But yeah, it's difficult to ask somebody, you know, in some caller out there to come in and have an intelligible debate. | |
| I don't blame Art at all. | |
| He's trying to do something different. | |
| He's trying to mix it up. | |
| He's trying to bring back some of the magic. | |
| He had a few debates from callers back in the mid-90s. | |
| And I don't fault art at all. | |
| Just my personal preference is straight out open lines. | |
| You're on the air. | |
| Hello? | |
| God damn it. | |
| I don't know if somebody, I think somebody's, I think somebody's fucking with Gabcast. | |
| At least that sounds too funny. | |
| Don't just say nothing. | |
| I brought them up. | |
| I added them to, oh, now they're calling again. | |
| Okay, let's see what happens here. | |
| Hello, you're on the air. | |
| How dare you? | |
| How dare you? | |
| We have the healthy pornographic map. | |
| How dare you? | |
| What do we do this time, sir? | |
| You are a shutter and a pornographizer. | |
| Well, can you blame us? | |
| Okay. | |
| Really? | |
| Really? | |
| That's a great, actually, it's a great JC, but he just hung up again. | |
| That was a really good JC. | |
| Can you please call back in again? | |
| Yeah. | |
| With a real touch? | |
| So I think you could fool Full Art into thinking it was the real JC. | |
| That was a good impression. | |
| I enjoyed it. | |
| Very good. | |
| He had the right dialect, the right inclination. | |
| But a crappy potato phone. | |
| Maybe that adds some credibility to it. | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| I mean, a hardliner like JC, I don't know if he can afford a real phone or not. | |
| And there's no way JC would have Skype. | |
| This is true as well. | |
| And also, this person who called in, and I don't know if this is the same one that kept calling, but they blocked their phone number. | |
| So I couldn't see who it was that was calling. | |
| So that's what clued me in that there was some sort of a prank. | |
| But that actually worked out pretty good because that was a good JC impression, I presume. | |
| That was a great JC impression. | |
| Definitely try to call Art, whoever you are, and maybe be prepared with what you're going to say. | |
| And maybe get a new phone. | |
| JC, whether he was real or not, was so quick-witted. | |
| He was fantastic that he could sort of take what someone was saying. | |
| And I don't know. | |
| Do you think JC was real or a put-on? | |
| Oh, it was a put-on. | |
| It was total put-on. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It was probably some comedian or some guy out there that had, like you said, a fast mind and had a good impression. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like someone would say condemnation and straight away he would relate it to condoms or something like that. | |
| And it was just fantastic. | |
| Yeah, JC was great. | |
| I mean, people are saying that JC's dead, right? | |
| Because he hasn't called. | |
| And there's apparently there's a JC2 or JC's son that calls in on Midnight in the Desert. | |
| Yeah, there's some guy who I don't think he claims to be JC's son, does he? | |
| No, but I mean, that's what people are calling him because he's kind of has a religious bent. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's a younger guy. | |
| You can tell in his voice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but does anybody know, has anybody heard or read what the deal is with JC if he's actually deceased or if he's just retired from calling in? | |
| He posted on his Facebook page and they got a response. | |
| Yeah, but Art was wondering whether he has, so I don't know. | |
| We don't know if that Facebook page actually is JC to begin with. | |
| True. | |
| Drew, I'd see that Art kind of fell into that with the Amazing Randy's Twitter account. | |
| And Art was thinking that that was the real Amazing Randy who was criticizing Art Bell. | |
| And it turned out to be a, what is it called? | |
| A spoof Twitter account? | |
| Yeah, it's like a spoof Twitter account or something or spoof Amazing Randy Twitter account. | |
| And Art was commenting on his account as if this was the real Amazing Randy, but apparently it wasn't. | |
| Oh, well, live and learn. | |
| You can't know everything out there, right? | |
| Well, it's funny because he almost started having a Twitter war with him. | |
| That would be good to see. | |
| You know, Art was defending himself on Bellgab just recently, and it was pretty interesting to read. | |
| You know, he was because maybe was saying that, oh, this place is just like a cult. | |
| And then, of course, everybody at Belgab started running with that and making fun of that whole idea. | |
| And then Art came back and says something about if you're going to cult it up or something like that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think the show's over. | |
| What do you guys think? | |
| I feel like we're struggling with technical issues. | |
| The cell phone is a struggle at this end. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that sucks that you don't have internet. | |
| But like I said, we'll get you on some other time, Star. | |
| And we'll get that all sorted out. | |
| All right, everybody. | |
| We appreciate you listening to the Gabcast. | |
| Thank you, Jazz, and thank you, Star Mountain. | |
| It was lovely having you on and it was a lot of fun. | |
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| All right, everybody. | |
| It's been real. | |
| We'll see you next week on the Gabcast. | |
| Good night. | |
| Good night, everyone. | |
| Good night. | |
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