GabCast Bellgab.com - 02 September, 2015

Sept. 2, 2015 - GabCast Bellgab.com

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02 September, 2015

02 September, 2015 ---------- The hosts, b_dubb and Eddie Dean welcome Jazmunda back to the show. We discuss Art Bell & possible advertising options to help grow the subscriber base & get the word out for Midnight in the Desert. Eddie isn't convinced using a cell phone is the best options to capture EVPs. We play a prank call from Bateman.

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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 623-242-CAS.
	That's 623-242-2278.
	Now, shut up, sit down and listen to the damn show.
	Shut up and listen to the show.
	I like that advice.
	Welcome to the GabCast, everybody.
	Podcast about Bellgab.com.
	I'm Eddie Dean.
	We've got B-Dub and the world traveler, Jasmunda, is back, everybody.
	Everybody, rejoice.
	What's going on?
	Bonjour.
	Bonjour.
	Oh, are you going to speak some French more?
	Ooh, nice.
	That's all I know.
	And I know how to ask where the closest bathroom is.
	And that's about it.
	Poo-poo.
	Oh, really?
	What does that mean?
	Same thing.
	So you learned, I'm sure you learned all the curse words first, right?
	Or did you learn to say, where's the bathroom?
	Yeah, well, that's the most important thing to learn whenever you go to a foreign country.
	Unless you wear diapers.
	Yes, that's also a plan.
	So do you have any issues at all, any digestive issues?
	Because I remember last time you said you came to America, you ate a McDonald's McRib and you had some issues there.
	Well, I find when you stay away from fast food and generally any restaurant where the employees don't really wash their hands or don't get paid enough to wash their hands, you tend to have those issues.
	But no, I pretty much ate quite healthy while I was away.
	So fortunately, I didn't have any such digestive issues.
	Well, you know, Jazz, I was counting on your digestive issue stories to pull us through the show tonight.
	We've got time to fill here, sir.
	Yeah, well, I actually got back to work yesterday, and one of the receptionists at our work told me that the toilet bowl had been filling up quite high every time they flushed.
	So I organized a plumber to come out and our toilet bowl didn't overflow inside our office, which was very fortunate.
	But outside our office down the back alleyway, it had flooded with shit.
	So I do sort of have a poop story.
	But fortunately, the plumber who came to attend got a hose out and watered down the poop and sprayed it into the nearest gutter.
	So yes.
	Wow, that's how did we get on this topic already?
	That's my fault.
	I'm sorry.
	You asked for it and I delivered.
	I couldn't help myself with the poop stories.
	Yeah, if anybody's ever had a septic tank overflow into their house, that happened to us when I was a teenager one time.
	Oh my God, the horror.
	I empathize with you, Jasmunda.
	The horror of that is terrible.
	Did you have some brown trout swimming around your yard there, Mr. Dean?
	No, they were in the house.
	They were in my bathroom.
	The septic tank overflowed and it went into the tub and up through the toilet in the first floor.
	And it was, yeah, it was bad.
	A similar thing happened to my grandparents where they came back from holiday and they were away for two or three weeks.
	And when they came home, their whole floor for probably that whole time had been covered in shit.
	Well, that is delightful.
	You can't get that smell out either.
	There's no amount of Windex or pine salt.
	It is time to move.
	You just got to rip up the cupboard and carpet and throw away everything that I touched.
	Anyway, if you guys would like to be a part of the show tonight, if you guys have your own septic tank backup stories, then feel free to give us a call.
	You can change the subject.
	Trust.
	I'm trying to, sir.
	I was talking to our listeners, or maybe listener.
	I don't know.
	Yes, please.
	There's quite a few people.
	There's quite a few people in the chat.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe there's hope for us.
	Yeah.
	There is hope for us.
	So if you'd like to call tonight, the number is 623-242-2278.
	Again, that's 623-242-CAST.
	You know, Jazz, you were gone for almost a month.
	Almost.
	I don't know anybody in America that vacations for almost a month.
	Well, it wasn't really, well, it was a vacation, but my wife's parents are overseas.
	They've been overseas for quite a long time.
	They're sort of traveling around the world, spending the inheritance.
	So my wife hasn't seen her parents for a while, and they're now sort of in the south of France where they're based at the moment.
	So primarily we went to visit them.
	And as I said before, I run my own business, so I have the luxury that I can do that.
	And, you know, you can keep in contact via email and stuff like that.
	So I'm lucky I'm in a situation where I can do that.
	I've now got to go back to work and work my ass off to pay for that.
	You know.
	So did you call your assistant from Amsterdam and you were like, Pam, give me a quick rundown.
	What's happening?
	I'm getting a head job.
	No, is that what you go to Amsterdam for?
	I thought you smoked.
	Well, you smoke weed and you fuck prostitutes.
	Yeah, well, when traveling with your family, fucking prostitutes isn't sort of high on the list.
	You can't sneak away to go to the red light district in Amsterdam.
	But we did go to Disneyland, so I'm.
	Honey, I'm going to get some diapers for the little one.
	I'll be back in five hours.
	Can I borrow $350, please?
	Well, you know, the exchange rate for U.S. currency is quite favorable to us Americans right now.
	So if you were going to do that, now would be the time.
	So how were the prices in France?
	Did they compare?
	Yeah, for blowjobs.
	Did they compare to prices in Australia or was it more expensive, less expensive?
	It's sort of very, it's like it's expensive.
	Things are expensive.
	It depends where you go, I guess.
	If you're eating at nice restaurants, it's expensive.
	I'm sure if you're getting McDonald's, it's fairly cheap.
	You can go to like the touristy trap areas.
	I'm sure that's pretty expensive.
	If you're in any tourist place, you're paying more for a Coke than you're going to sort of at a 7-Eleven in some local suburban thing.
	But we spent most of the time sort of in semi-rural or country sort of areas.
	So those places were fairly cheap.
	But you go to Paris and you're going to pay through the nose for anything.
	So how was Disneyland in France?
	It was fun.
	Like we took, I think I wouldn't go for myself, but we took our kids there and they just had an absolute ball.
	They were, you know, like pigs in shit.
	But you line up for half an hour.
	We just can't get away from that meme, can we?
	You line up for like 45 minutes for a ride that lasts a minute or a minute and a half at the most, and you just feel very ripped off.
	That really blows.
	You know, last time I went to Disneyland was, I think, 95 with my niece and nephew.
	And we bought like an extra package where you could get into the park like two hours early and you could, you know, you just run to the best rides and there was no lines at all.
	So you basically get ahead of, you know, the masses of people that get there a couple hours after.
	And you can go on, you know, your favorite ride three, four times in a row and there's no lines at all, which was really great.
	Well, we bought these extra passes called a fast pass, which for selected rides, you could sort of get on straight away almost.
	So that helped out.
	You know what I hear works well too is if you pretend like you're disabled, you go with a wheelchair or one of those scooters or something, and they'll let you go right up the front of the line.
	No questions asked.
	Yeah, maybe I'll sit my daughter in a wheelchair next time.
	There you go.
	And I'll go to hell just a little bit quicker.
	Yeah, but you get on the rides a lot faster.
	That's true.
	I mean, it's a trade-off, but I'd go for that.
	You're a sick puppy.
	I would never.
	Were there any questions in that regard at all before my comment about well?
	I didn't know the scale of your illness.
	It's pretty bad.
	It is.
	So this is a podcast about Bell Gab, and I noticed, and poop, when Jazz is back on the show.
	By the way, Jazz, we appreciate you being back, man.
	Yeah, welcome back to the Gabcast.
	Oh, thank you.
	I must say I missed it.
	But did you do any shows while I was away?
	We did.
	Yes, we did.
	I think we did one show three weeks ago.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yes.
	He knows so he doesn't get all butter.
	No, no, I actually listened to it while I was doing some exercise and actually fell asleep.
	Well, it's exactly the way it's designed, sir.
	But I noticed that Art is asking for suggestions on how to grow Midnight in the Desert.
	And I saw that Jazz Munda had quite a lengthy post.
	Would you like to maybe talk about that, Jazz?
	Some of your ideas on how to grow the show?
	Yeah, I can't remember what I actually wrote about, to tell you the truth.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	We're off to a great start then.
	Yep.
	Well, I'll have to go through my posts to have a look what I wrote.
	But I think one of my ideas was about a YouTube channel.
	And I think that would be sort of important.
	You know, maybe do some clips of some, you know, some of the really good bits of the show.
	Maybe give a free episode here or there just to give people a taste and wet their appetite and just have some information on how they can subscribe to be able to hear the full show or to be able to download it at any time, you know.
	I mean, don't you agree?
	I think the YouTube idea is a good idea.
	I think putting up clips and full shows, maybe the first hour or the last hour or, you know, entire full shows on YouTube would be great.
	I also think that they should look into doing YouTube advertisements.
	You know, when you go and in some YouTube videos, you click play and you're treated to a 15-second advertisement, which you can skip after five seconds.
	And who doesn't skip them?
	But what I'm thinking is if they want to take advantage of that, and I have no idea how much those cost.
	I'm sure they're probably based on how many people watch them or, you know, I'm not sure how that whole thing works.
	But if you give the relevant information within the first five seconds, you know, artbell.com, Midnight in the Desert, starting, you know, every Monday through Friday at midnight to three, at least the information gets out there within the first five seconds.
	And if people are interested, they can watch the entire ad or video before their regular YouTube videos.
	Wait, you're telling me that you can watch videos on the interweb?
	You indeed can, sir.
	This is mind-blowing.
	I had no idea.
	Peyton in the chat room says that he'd recommend not using the GabCast model for Midnight in the Desert.
	I agree, sir.
	That's probably, that's sound advice, sir.
	We never did get our Tanko money.
	Yeah.
	But it's not just ads that are on YouTube.
	It's ads on, you know, the Google ads, like the ads that you see on MV's website.
	Most of those ads are content generated.
	So people who visit paranormal themed websites or are searching for paranormal themed topics, they'll receive those ads for Art Bell's show.
	I think that's probably a good idea.
	I don't know if anybody, well, I don't know this for certain, but I'm sure that the vast majority of paranormal fans already know that Art's back.
	Wouldn't you think?
	Or is that the best way to do that?
	No, I don't know that that's not necessarily the case because back three or four months ago, my car broke down and the guy that came and towed my car, we were in the car for about an hour before we got to my mechanic.
	And so we got to talking about all manner of thing.
	And one of the things he talked about was something he'd heard on YouTube where this guy was flying in Area 51 and this dude on the radio was trying to tell him not to do it, but he wouldn't listen and he kept going.
	And I was like, that's Art Bell.
	And he's like, who's Art Bell?
	So you would assume that Art Bell is synonymous with paranormal.
	And I don't think that's the case.
	And I was a huge paranormal, like UFO nerd when I was in the 90s.
	Never listened to Art Bell once.
	Really?
	Did no idea who he was.
	Wow.
	Wasn't until about 10 years ago where my friend played that clip of the dude flying his plane in Area 51 until I had heard the name.
	And it's not just people knowing that art's back.
	It's knowing that they can subscribe.
	They can help him grow by subscribing.
	You know, just telling, just a reminder that he is back.
	Right.
	You know what they need to do?
	They need to come out with a way to give someone a subscription for like a year.
	Like you can gift a subscription to the show to somebody.
	Yeah, I think that's a great idea too.
	They need to.
	And also people are complaining about the PayPal issue.
	Now, I've never had any problems with PayPal, but this is the internet.
	This is 2015.
	Why can't they offer a credit card?
	A credit card.
	Yeah, I don't understand.
	Like every website offers credit card as well as PayPal.
	I think it's more complex than that because it's a recurring payment.
	No, you would have, I have used recurring payments.
	If you've ever purchased porn on the internet, you've used a credit card to offer payments.
	Not that I ever have, but I've heard from friends.
	Of course.
	But, you know, surely that you can buy, it's software, right, BW?
	Well, purchase software package.
	Well, I honestly, like, Keith's using web, oh my goodness, WordPress to build the website and maintain it.
	And so if you know anything about WordPress, you know it's all about plugins and themes.
	So a lot of that stuff is either free or almost free, and you just plug it in and go to town.
	So I think that makes me think that Keith's more of a hardware guy than a coder, even on the most basic level.
	But I don't know.
	I mean, but it would seem like that would be pretty easy to plug in.
	I've gone through that process.
	Well, like you were saying, you can hire a company to do the reoccurring payments, right, to take care of all of those transactions.
	There are companies out there that specialize in this, and you get a plug-in for your WordPress site that links up with that company's method of doing business called, us nerds call it an API.
	And you get your account set up, and then you just turn it on, and then the money just starts rolling in by the truckload.
	Well, maybe they are waiting until they get a certain number of subscribers to be able to rationalize that expense.
	Because right now they're getting probably all of the profits.
	Well, I guess maybe PayPal is probably taking a percentage.
	It's a tiny percentage.
	I think there's a disadvantage of taking credit cards, and that is you can sometimes get hit with a chargeback.
	You mean the purchase?
	Yeah.
	I've never had a credit card account.
	I've never taken credit cards as a form of payment.
	So I don't know the details about, let's say, what happens if, like, say, I take a payment from someone who is a rather reckless individual.
	And then, say, down the road, they declare bankruptcy and their credit card has to, their credit card company rates off their balance as a business loss.
	And then I don't know as someone who takes payments, if you have to kind of suck an egg in that situation and give back like X amount of dollars, I don't know.
	Well, that's why some companies charge a, what do you call it when they charge like a surcharge for using credit cards?
	You also have to pay a fee per transaction.
	So it would either be like a flat rate of 20 cents or something or a percentage of the purchase.
	Listen, I'm sure that Art and Keith have considered this, but for whatever reason, they haven't pulled the trigger.
	And I'm sure it probably has something to do with the amount of subscriptions they get.
	Maybe it's just not worth it at this point.
	Maybe that's the reason that Art is trying to build this by asking people of Bellgab what our ideas are as far as how to bring in more subscriptions, more listeners.
	And I also have a little bit of an issue with the whole two websites, having artbell.com and then having a separate site for the subscriptions and all that.
	I think it really needs to be integrated into one thing, one brand.
	You go to artbell.com, you can subscribe right there.
	You can listen to all the shows right from artbell.com.
	You shouldn't have to go hunting for the latest show.
	It's counterintuitive.
	I mean, you should go to artbell.com.
	If he's on the air, there should be a thing in the top left-hand corner saying on air.
	If he's not on there, it says listen to the archives.
	It used to be like that.
	That's exactly Coast to Coast websites like that.
	Not saying that they're the ones that you should be following, but it really needs to be revamped that website.
	What I'm saying is Keith used to have all of that on artbell.com, but the reason that it was separated was because of the non-compete issues with SiriusXM, right?
	That's the reason that Keith started his own, you know, they separated those things for the two years from 2013 until 2015.
	Yeah.
	And I'm not having a go at Keith.
	He's worked his ass off.
	No, I'm not.
	I'm really not.
	He's worked his ass off every night, you know, fixing these issues.
	Perhaps he just needs a hand with these type of things, and maybe they need to outsource it or get some extra help.
	And that might just be an issue with needing the subscriptions to get higher, like you said, Eddie, and waiting until there's more people and more money available.
	And I'm happy to wait it out, but you really need to sort of get these things right for everyone to use and enjoy the show and the site.
	We have a caller.
	Hello, you're on the air.
	Hey, what's going on?
	It's Chefist.
	What's up, brother?
	Hey, how's everyone doing?
	Jazz, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	I was doing pretty good until I tried that recipe for Escargo, and I've just had the worst diarrhea for like days and days.
	Well, you have to give your intestines time to get used to it.
	You know, you got to build up.
	That's all that bacteria in your bowels.
	Well, see, here's the thing.
	Escargo is, have you ever had conch?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So I imagine like SCARGO is probably like that, basically.
	It's a very similar creature.
	Yeah.
	Legacy.
	Escargot.
	Escargo is, so like eating conch, like I really didn't like it because it's just like a giant chunk of cartilage and it's chewy and just not very good.
	It doesn't matter how much hot sauce you put on it.
	It's just nasty.
	So especially if you don't know how to cook it.
	But yeah.
	Hey, I just wanted to let you know I did have an email exchange with Keith way back in the Blitz days about accepting Visa and MasterCard.
	And his explanation to me was, and you guys, I think, touched on it, his software wasn't compatible with being able to program it into it.
	Because I suggested to him, I said, no square.
	Well, that's a little bit of hooey.
	You were handed a line, sir.
	So you're saying that WordPress has a plug-in where you can accept credit cards.
	There's many, many plug-ins that work with all manner of payment companies.
	Well, maybe that was the case back then.
	What's that, Chef?
	I said use the square, or even now PayPal has their form of the square.
	And you don't necessarily need the little card swiper you plug into your phone to get up an online account.
	Yeah.
	I'm not subscribing until they accept Dinah's card.
	Oh, you wealthy bastard.
	Well, I mean, I had so I just wanted to mention that that's what he told me was the software.
	But that's what that's what I heard.
	Well, maybe that was the case back then, and maybe it still is.
	Who knows?
	You know, we don't know what type of software, what version he's using.
	Maybe it's a really old version.
	I don't know.
	But it has to be a reason.
	I mean, in my opinion, there's tons of people out there who would rather use a credit card and bypass PayPal altogether.
	You know?
	At least in my opinion.
	Yeah, I think there's a certain percent.
	Well, number one, you want to give everyone an option.
	It's like running a restaurant and only accepting cash and not a credit card.
	Well, you're going to eliminate a very large chunk of the market.
	So being able to accept a credit card is almost fundamental to business.
	It's just kind of the way it is, right?
	People in branding.
	So when they see that Visa logo.
	Yeah.
	If you were running a restaurant in 2015 and you didn't take credit cards, you were just shooting yourself in the dick.
	Well, it's the other way around now.
	They don't take cash in a lot of places.
	It's only debit and credit.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So I think they should, and they need to, because I don't know, people just, when they see the Visa, the Amex, whatever, they feel like if they use it, they're protected when they use those financial services.
	And it just instills a sense of legitimacy.
	So I think he should do it, definitely.
	Well, and I'm sure they probably will at some point.
	At least I hope so.
	Yeah, well, look, they have been listening to people because the show bait.
	Remember at the beginning of when the show started, the downloads were three separate files.
	Yeah.
	Now it's one file.
	They've got the RSS fade happening.
	So they are listening and implementing things.
	But yeah, so you've got to give them time.
	Very true.
	So what do you guys think is the hidden agenda behind Art asking us for help for us to brainstorm as far as doing this secondary blitz on trying to grow the show?
	I see, you know, people on Bellgab, how they have that conspiracy mentality sometimes.
	And some people are saying that this is an indication that possibly the numbers aren't where they thought they would be, or, you know, they're backsliding a little bit or expenses are a little bit higher than they expected.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	What do you guys think?
	You think this is indicative of some sort of an issue with the subscriber numbers, or is Art just being competitive and wanting to build a huge podcast network?
	Well, obviously he just wants to spread the word and grow the show.
	And I think part of it is he wants to compete with Coast to Coast, which he's really not going to do as long as people have to pay for it because, you know, Coast to Coast is horrible, but it's free.
	So some people out there don't want to pay money to listen to something.
	And even if they don't have money to pay for something.
	No, Art Bell's show is free as long as you have an internet connection.
	His show is free.
	I guess the argument is that Coast to Ghost is more accessible.
	Well, we're on five or 600 stations.
	Yeah.
	That's what George always says.
	What do you guys think about Art turning down?
	And I don't know if he actually announced which radio stations it was where he was in talks with, but he actually turned down going on a, he said, a rather large radio affiliate, perhaps maybe even two, because they wanted to introduce more commercials.
	Well, yeah, they wanted to take him down the road of building something like Coast to Coast.
	And he was like, no, don't want to do that.
	Well, I think that would be cumulus, right?
	Or CBS.
	Who knows?
	I mean, honestly.
	Competitors, right, out there to someone like Premier.
	Or, I mean, um yeah, Premiere.
	Yeah, so that's right.
	Yeah, I don't think he said who the company was or what their radio stations were, but it was Taintco.
	It was Taintco Radio Corporation, sir.
	Tanko.
	But that tells me that he's not hurting at all, that they're doing fine.
	If he is.
	If the shoe was on the other foot and he felt like the show was going to die soon or he couldn't pay his bills or any of that, then you better believe that he would probably take that deal and kind of bite the bullet, add a couple more commercials just to continue the show.
	I agree.
	I don't know what the deal was.
	Obviously, more commercials, but who knows?
	They might have wanted more control or something.
	We don't know.
	I mean, art seems...
	Yeah, now's the time to negotiate that, because when you're just starting your company, whether than when it's established, its value isn't there, right?
	It's only after you've established your business, the value increases.
	So they want to get in on the ground floor, try to back them in a corner with some untenable deal.
	So yeah, now's the time to say, no, let the show go for a year or so, build up a huge audience, and then you make your deal.
	Right.
	And then you have more, then art will have more leverage, too, to be able to turn down those extra commercials.
	But I got to say, if there were another, maybe a minute, a minute and a half of commercials per hour on Midnight in the Desert, it wouldn't bother me one bit.
	Actually, it's kind of shocking how little commercials there are.
	I mean, you know, if you listen to regular radio, you have 10 minutes in between at the top of the hour before content starts to go to the bathroom, you know, get something to eat, whatever.
	And with Art Show, it starts right at the top of the hour.
	You know, bam, it's there.
	It's almost not enough time to go to the bathroom.
	It's not.
	No.
	So goddamn it, Art, do more commercials so I can go to the bathroom.
	So now that we've established that Jasmunda is full of it.
	Yeah, I think that I think Art's doing fine.
	You know, he's not, he's set up.
	The guy is set.
	He's not doing this for the money.
	He's doing this because he's having a blast.
	And if he were to involve a large conglomerate, say like Taintco, it would probably just become a pain in his ass.
	And then he'd be like, why the hell did I, why am I doing this?
	Yeah.
	Thanks for the call, Chefist.
	Right now he's having a blast, and I think his numbers are doing pretty well.
	Otherwise, if they weren't, he wouldn't have been approached by Tainco to become a part of their family of proud products.
	So what do you guys think of the quality of the show?
	I mean, I've been away, so I've sort of been listening to parts of episodes.
	Because of the time difference, I think it was on that started at like 6 a.m. where I was.
	So I wasn't able to listen to it.
	Sir, are you telling me that you are not, in fact, a time traveler?
	No.
	No, I am a time traveler.
	That's how I was listening to you.
	You haven't been listening to the podcasts?
	I have, but only not the whole show every day, unfortunately.
	So, yeah.
	So I'm asking you guys, what have you thought of the quality in the past month?
	I think it's outstanding.
	And you call yourself an Art Bell fan, sir?
	I know I'm handing in my card as we speak.
	Well, this next comment I might have to hand in my card, too.
	I've been getting burnt out of Art Bell the last week and a half, two weeks.
	I haven't really listened hardly at all.
	I listen to maybe two shows.
	But the quality is there.
	It's shockingly good.
	We have a godless communist hosting the gab cast.
	What is the world come to?
	As far as the quality, you know, I didn't agree with MV's opinion about how good the Skype sounds and how shocking that is.
	But it is, I'm getting used to it a little bit more now, but it's a little more difficult to understand or to differentiate between the caller and the guest sometimes when the Skype is there.
	And it's also kind of interesting to see Art have issues like the Gabcast does with the Skype.
	You know, he's much better and much more patient than perhaps we are when we have Skype issues.
	Until he's lying under the desk connecting cables, I don't think you can compare the issues he has with the issues that we have had.
	I've only been under the desk once or twice, and that was early on.
	And that was because you were drinking.
	You were drinking laxabre that time.
	Drank yourself under the table.
	Let's see.
	Did you guys listen to the EVP show last night?
	Listened to a little bit of it.
	Do you have any comments?
	Well, I thought the EVPs were pretty weak.
	I thought that it was clearly a situation where it could have been paredola.
	Yeah.
	Like there was one that was like some hiss, and then you heard Chuck.
	And it was like, he tells you, oh, this is where he says Chuck.
	And so he tells you what it's going to say before he says it, before you hear it.
	And that's, I feel like anytime they do that, they should wait till after they play the EVP and then get a sense for like what people thought they heard.
	I mean, it's not like otherwise you'd be implanting that idea in someone's head.
	I think that's exactly what it is.
	I didn't listen to last night's that portion of the show due to issues.
	But just EVPs in general.
	I get the pareidolia aspect of it, but there's something, and I'm talking about the GIS EVPs, there's something obviously being said, whether it's hello, goodbye, it's dark in here, something's being said.
	So what is that?
	As long as it's not the person who's faking the EVPs, if it is something they genuinely caught on tape, it doesn't matter what was being said, something is being said.
	You might argue that that might not be a human voice and it might be just a case of audio pareidolia.
	But, you know, at least GIS, they use a regular microphone and they pick up whatever is in the room.
	And, you know, this guy last night, I can't, what was his name?
	Patrick Burns.
	He admitted that he was using an old cell phone.
	An old Blackberry?
	An old Blackberry from 2009 to capture these EVPs.
	Now, I don't see.
	And the only thing that I heard was a bunch of artifacts that were most likely generated because of the file compression, the audio file compression that happens within cell phones themselves.
	You know, because I don't think you can record an MP3 or in waveformat or high resolution audio.
	And I mean, it just, listen, I have an example that I pulled some audio clips that I pulled from.
	a podcast.
	Beat up.
	What's the name of that podcast that you like?
	Skeptoid?
	Yeah, Skeptoid.
	So this is an example of an audio sound.
	And it's like a ring modulator type of thing.
	And there is no voice there.
	This is purely electronic, a purely electronic signal.
	And so what I'll do is I'll play this for you guys.
	And anybody in the chat room, listen to it.
	Maybe put on your C-crane earbuds and listen to it and see if you can figure out what this is saying.
	And then I have another clip after that.
	So I'll play it a couple times and see if you guys can figure out what it's saying.
	I know it's difficult to hear.
	Let me play that one.
	If anyone's wondering, that's what a transistor sounds like when it farts.
	Okay, so let me play it one more time.
	Okay, so do you guys have any guesses?
	I know, Beat Up, you don't, you probably know what it is already, so please abstain from guessing.
	If I knew it, I've forgotten.
	Okay.
	I have no idea.
	It just sounds like gibberish to me.
	So if you can give me a clue and if you can tell me what it says and then I listen to it again, I'll see if I can hear that.
	Okay, I'd like to see if anybody in the chat room has any ideas what that audio clip is saying.
	And we'll just wait.
	Do I shouldn't do the cricket sound now?
	Let me play it one more time and then I'll play what the answer is.
	Okay, see now I cannot not hear what it is because I've been biased with what the answer is.
	And you'll hear someone in the chat room said that it says it was a sunny day and it sure is getting hot.
	And then Saucy Rossi, he has the answer too.
	So let me play the answer and then I'll play the clip again and you cannot not hear what this phrase is after you've heard the answer.
	It was a sunny day and the children were going to the park.
	Okay, so it was a sunny day and the children were going to the park and a couple people actually got it in the chat room.
	So let me play the sound wave again.
	It was a sunny day in the children going to the park.
	Yeah, I can hear that.
	Yeah, I guess that's a good example of pareidolia.
	That's exactly what the point was.
	That's the example of audio paradolia.
	And I'll tell you what, when you played the time just before then and someone in the chat, I read out what someone wrote in the chat room.
	I heard exactly what they said.
	And then when I saw the park one, I heard that one too.
	So yeah, I guess that's a perfect example.
	That is exactly, yeah, that's it.
	Example of audio pareidolia.
	And when somebody tells you what the answer is, you cannot not hear it because it's already, you've been compromised.
	You've been biased to hear that.
	So when the EVPs go on an art show and they tell you what it says beforehand, you're already, you don't have, what's the word I'm looking for?
	You're not objectively you can't be objective.
	Yeah, you're you're you're you've already you've been set up to already believe something.
	Right.
	Um but just to reiterate that that is from a uh an episode uh from a podcast called Skeptoid, um, which I know a lot of people hate skepticism.
	It's actually an excellent podcast.
	I highly recommend it.
	It's very interesting.
	And that episode in particular is really good because he goes through a whole bunch of different examples and he goes through the scientific explanation of pareidolia, basically ascribing meaning to something that has none and hearing things that aren't necessarily there.
	So what when there is an EVP though, what are you saying that is?
	Because it's not the background noise.
	What's generating it?
	Well, it could be the background noise.
	And I go back and forth on this too, because there are some EVPs that I hear and I go, damn, that sure sounds like a human voice.
	Because it's dark in here, you know, that little kid that the GIS play all the time.
	It's dark in here.
	I mean, what's that?
	What explanation do you have for that?
	I don't have an explanation.
	I'm not saying it's a ghost and it's a ghost of a kid saying that, but what is that?
	Is that just...
	Well, I can tell you that what I heard last night is that's an example of artifacts being given meaning.
	I think it's audio artifacts surely by the process of using his phone, which the phone has a tiny microphone.
	It's compressed audio, and then he sends it to his digital audio workstation and further adds compression or noise canceling out algorithms and plug-ins.
	And just by using some of those plug-ins that clean up some of the background noise, those things add things, add artifacts.
	And they usually sound like that ring modulator.
	They have like a metallic sound.
	They have a sound like water.
	It's a warbly kind of a sound.
	All of those are indicative of audio artifacts because the resolution of the audio is poor or the processing that was done to the audio to bring the EVPs out of the noise floor is being introduced to that audio signal.
	But like I said, Jess, some of those EVPs that I hear, I have no idea how to explain it.
	It's difficult.
	And I'm not saying that I don't believe in the afterlife, but I don't think EVPs are a clear indicator of something happening after we die or ghosts or things like that.
	You just ruined my whole art bell listening experience from 2002 to success today.
	That was my whole plan tonight, sir.
	I'm glad I did that for you.
	I'm definitely of the mind that some EVPs are definitely pareidola, but some of them really make me wonder because when they come in super clear and they're really obvious, it's, you know, it's really yeah, so it really makes you wonder.
	It's confounding.
	Yeah.
	Especially for me when I try to understand this from the audio perspective.
	But I mean, that guy last night just had too many marks against him.
	There was too many variables in his story and how he captured them and how he processed those EVPs for me to believe that that was anything but just audio artifacts and audio paradolia.
	Now, that's not to say that Patrick wasn't, well, I don't think that he was actually trying to fake people out.
	I think that he believes what he captured are EVPs, but I just think that he's going about it the incorrect way as far as how he processes and captures them.
	All right.
	Anybody have a comment about EVPs or anything we've talked about on the show?
	You can call in.
	The number is 623-242-2278.
	Again, that's 623-242-CAST.
	Let's see.
	You guys have anything else you want to talk about?
	I do.
	Okay.
	So apparently, I don't know if I saw this in the George Nori Sucks thread or if I saw it somewhere else, but apparently Tommy Danheiser is in the hospital with a pulmonary embolism.
	Yeah, I saw that one.
	Which is a super serious binacle condition.
	By the way, I'd just like to say I hope he gets better.
	What I'd like to put to my co-hosts and the chat room is the question, does anyone actually believe that when Falke called Tommy Danheiser while he's in the hospital with this life-threatening condition, that Tommy was like, oh, Falkey, I need to take this respond.
	Why?
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	Falky claimed that he called Tommy Danheiser.
	Tommy picked up the phone and responded.
	And I say bullshit.
	And apparently Tom Danheiser, well, he is.
	He's in the hospital for pulmonary embolism.
	Yeah, I don't think that that happened.
	If it did, it was probably two seconds of a phone call, and it's not as false as describing it.
	Meaning like the phone call went something like this?
	Hello?
	Fuck off, asshole.
	Maybe.
	Hi, are you feeling any better?
	He would have been praying that the phone call was from a telemarketer from Mumbai.
	Well, I mean, if that indeed did happen and Tom did answer the phone, then he must be feeling better to be having a cell phone in his hospital room.
	You know, so that's a positive sign for Tom.
	That's not unheard of to have a cell phone in your hospital room.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Definitely, I mean, maybe not ICU or something.
	But if you're feeling like shit, then, you know, the last thing you're going to do is worry about your cell phone and answering the phone.
	Although he is a producer and a fairly busy one at that, I would guess.
	So maybe he, you know, he's a workaholic and that's.
	Maybe he thought it was Domino's and they were trying to get a pizza to him.
	Maybe he just wanted a break from driving George Norrie around all the time.
	Yeah, did George drive him to the hospital then?
	Apparently, I guess that pulmonary embolism or the it started happening during a show a couple nights ago, from what I understand.
	Yeah, listening to George Norrie will do that.
	Indeed.
	But, you know, Beatup's right.
	A pulmonary embolism is no joke.
	You can die in two seconds from that because it's a blood clot or some sort of a blockage in your arteries going to your arteries of your lungs.
	And that's serious shit.
	Go ahead.
	On the plus side, there's now a job opening for Falki.
	Maybe he'll.
	That would be the worst thing.
	Well, actually, that would be the best thing that could possibly happen to Coast to Coast AM.
	It'd be off the air in about a week.
	The Falky being the producer of Coast to Coast?
	George would quit.
	They'd just fire everybody, pack it up, and Falki would be sitting there in the studio by himself going, Where'd everybody go?
	I've got all this video on my iPad.
	No one wants to look at it.
	I do a horrible Falkie impression.
	Eddie does the best.
	What?
	I think Eddie needs to change careers and become a voice actor.
	The guy does some really, really awesome impressions.
	Indeed, sir.
	Thank you.
	No, you did an impression of Buffalo Bill that's pretty spot on.
	You mean that great big fat person?
	You know, that actor that played Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go for it.
	Do it.
	Well, see, I can't do them on spot.
	It has to be, you know, spontaneous or else.
	This is the only thing that's holding you back, my man.
	It's like when you go up to a comedian.
	Voice actor greatness.
	Go up to a comedian and say, be funny.
	Tell a joke.
	Make me laugh.
	Dance, monkey.
	Dance.
	Well, I don't know if that's basically how it works when you go to work and you're in a voice actor.
	Yes, this is true.
	Yes.
	I wouldn't mind voicing the other side of the midnight commercials that Keith has been voicing.
	I wouldn't mind doing that.
	Is that what you're doing those?
	Yes, I believe it is.
	Yeah.
	Because I think he really needs someone professional doing those.
	Well, Keith, if you'd like me to do those voiceovers for you, you can call us at 63242-2278.
	I also think what they need to do is bundle Midnight in the Desert with Hoagland's show.
	So it's just all one price?
	Two shows for eight bucks.
	I think they'd do, I think they'd sell a lot more subscriptions.
	Yeah, I mean, that is the thing to do: bundle.
	Subscriptions and the ability to gift subscriptions to someone.
	If you could give someone a subscription, I think that would be huge.
	How does that work, gifting a subscription?
	Because it's, do you gift it for X amount of time?
	Yeah, a gift like a year.
	You could go six months to a year.
	So how does that work in terms of do you use their email address to sign up at your credit card?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so you would have to use their email address, and then when you bought them the membership, that would send an email to them with a link, and they would use that link to complete the sign-up process and get registered.
	And then at that point, they'd have access to the show, the podcast, the wormhole, and all that other great stuff.
	Have you sent any wormholes to art during the show?
	And has it been a little bit different?
	I believe that I've sent one or two, but he's never responded or mentioned anything I said on air.
	Mostly because I'm unbelievably dull.
	You can't send cockpeaks, can you?
	This is a picture of my cock.
	He likes to strut around the yard.
	He's very proud.
	It's a proud cock.
	I did get on the show last week, though.
	Oh, you did?
	Which show were you on?
	Open Lines.
	Oh, no, it was the Truth or Trash.
	The Buffalo Bill show.
	Did you have a truth or trash story?
	My story was trash.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, that was pretty good, B-dub.
	I was laughing my ass off when I listened to that live because I had no idea that you were going to call, and all of a sudden, there's B-dub telling his story about, well, I don't want to give it away if you want to.
	No, I haven't listened to it.
	I'm halfway through.
	I'm not halfway about a quarter of the way through that episode.
	I was listening actually to the beginning and hearing all the troubles art was having with Skype and was having flashbacks to our first month of shows we did with the Gapcast.
	Yeah, B-Dub, that was a good job, man.
	I was laughing my ass off.
	I thought it was a little strange that someone called in later in the show with basically the same story.
	That was a head scratcher.
	Did they really?
	It was obvious that they were either they had not been listening at all the entire night or they were just trying to troll art or something.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Yeah, I didn't listen to the rest of it.
	You finished me off, B-Dub.
	As soon as I heard your lovely voice on Midnight in the Desert, I had to.
	You were like, I can't top that.
	Yeah, I was it.
	I was done.
	I dropped the mic and I went to bed.
	That was cool.
	Did you call yourself B-dub?
	No, I didn't.
	Actually, Art introduced me, and I did not get the opportunity to, you know, say my name or where I'm going from.
	It was just like, hey, here's this guy on the phone.
	What's your story?
	Yeah, you did kind of go right into it, didn't you?
	Yeah.
	Which was good.
	He was, that was pretty entertaining.
	That shows that.
	I thought that was a lot of fun.
	I thought that show was a lot of fun.
	It was a little frustrating because, you know, it's like some people clearly just cannot get their head around how shit works when you call a radio show.
	There was like the one dude that had an accent and he was just like, oh, this is wonderful.
	I am on the radio.
	And he's screwing around with this.
	And it's like, sir, you need to turn off your device.
	And you can hear the echo.
	And it's just like he's playing around with all the stuff.
	And he like, he gets the device off, but then it comes back on later.
	And then Art's just like, I give up.
	Look, I give up.
	Having called into a show before, it is nerve-wracking when you get on the air, particularly with Skype.
	Art sort of brings you on, or you can hear the show and then sort of says, Caller, you're on the air.
	And if he doesn't say your name, you have no idea whether that's you.
	So I can understand people's nerves and a bit of disorientation when they first get on.
	What was trippy for me was it was, it's not like radio where you call someone and they have no idea who you are or they just get a number or whatever.
	It was like, I'm calling him on Skype.
	So my profile information comes up and he's calling me by my first name.
	And I'm like, and it suddenly it's like I'm listening to the Coast to Coast AM.
	And then suddenly Art's like talking to me.
	And it was really kind of, have I lost my mind?
	Yeah.
	Is this really happening right now?
	People I've seen on Bell Gab have like been criticizing people that call in by saying, you know, wasting time by saying, hi, Art, how are you?
	But it's sort of like people are just sort of programmed in life just when they get on the phone with someone to sort of say those things.
	You know, I understand people saying, oh, it takes time out of the show, but sort of you get on the air and that's sort of the first thing you do.
	And they want you to take a sort of break.
	To be a good radio caller, you need to just get right to the point.
	Just X nail the pleasantries and the greetings up front.
	But I too understand why people are excited and they want to tell art about, oh, I've been listening to you since in the 90s and all of this stuff.
	And People want to be like his buddy and they think they're going to get in with him.
	And it's like, no, shut your mouth and get to your friggin' story.
	You remember when we had a conversation on the phone in 1997?
	Yeah.
	November 3rd?
	Like, Art's taking one billion calls, you know.
	And these people.
	Honestly, I think you should just hang up on those dudes.
	Because you know it's not going to be good.
	Do you remember that email I sent you in 1993?
	Yeah.
	You remember that time I stated that fax I had like 900 pages and it was all like real small type, like eight-point type and hello?
	That's what he should do when he gets those calls.
	He should be like, oh, next caller.
	Next caller.
	Oh, look, we lost him.
	That's what Norri does.
	Yeah.
	Oh, darn.
	Sorry.
	I lost him.
	Next thing.
	You suck, George.
	You lost that guy.
	Art has loads of patience.
	You know, if I was running the show and that happened with those callers, I think I wouldn't be as patient as Art is.
	And just take your advice beat up and I just hang up on him.
	He's patient, but also he's kind of working him too.
	Like, it's just how kind of we're all going to be laughing at you while you try and get your shit together.
	Because it's not like everyone else, you know, it's like, although I will say this, I really think at times it detracts from the show.
	When you get these people who just like cannot figure it out and it happens over and over again, it's like, nah.
	Yeah.
	That needs to stop.
	And actually, Art has a lot more patience with the international Skype line, too.
	Because there's been a couple calls, in particular, the guy from Ireland, I believe, where it was a real slow start, a real rough start.
	You know, he had his device on and then Art was trying to get him focused and then he was talking about this or that.
	Yeah.
	It was hard to understand what he was saying because he had a thick accent, you know.
	Sheffist says in the chat room that art trolls callers.
	He does that sometimes, but sometimes it's just like he's just kind of rolling with it.
	And he's having a bit of a laugh at him too, I think, sometimes.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It seems a lot easier to get on through the international line than it does through the other lines.
	Well, thanks for rubbing that in our face, Mr. Australia.
	But I think we're here in the United States and we can't use it.
	Thanks very much.
	I think Art enjoys that international aspect of the show and is sort of encouraging it by taking sort of a lot of calls from that line.
	Yeah.
	Being really patient with him, too.
	Yeah, but I mean, Art's like old school ham radio dude because that was like the great thing about ham radio is you're some guy sitting in front of this heap of electronics with a microphone and you just I don't even know really how that shit works.
	So I mean, I don't know.
	What do you do?
	Scan their waves, try and find somebody?
	And then the thrill is you find somebody and it's like, oh, where are you from?
	Where are you calling from?
	What's happening there?
	And so it's kind of like that in some regards.
	And that, you know, you get a call like that guy that called in Friday from South Africa with his story about trying to buy a beer in the bar and then he got so angry he blew out the lights in like two direct two blocks in every direction.
	I think tantrum.
	Yeah, but his, what really made it great was his accent was like, it was kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
	He's kind of like, no, I'm so angry.
	You must get me a beer.
	Did he say California?
	He did not.
	Aw.
	He did say, I am the governor Nata.
	Come with me if you want to live.
	Yeah, I missed that call.
	You know, I noticed that Bellgab has broken a record.
	Did you guys?
	Have you guys been looking at the posting history and the numbers at the bottom of Bellgab?
	No.
	What records most cockpicks and posted in a 24-hour period?
	Well, that's maybe.
	I think there might be a column for that.
	But the column that I'm looking at is page views.
	And in 2015, we have already broken the 14 million mark.
	We're close to 15 million page views.
	Holy Christ.
	And that blows away the 13 million page views from 2014 and the 11.598 million page views from 2013.
	So basically, Midnight in the Desert is generating a shit ton of page views for Belgab.
	So are you telling me that MV is currently out shopping for Porsche C4 Carrera?
	He is currently laying on a bed made completely of money with a big fat black man via absence from Belgab.
	I mean, I haven't seen MV in weeks.
	With the exception of him opening up the live thread posts, I don't really see him around much anymore.
	He has dialed it down quite a bit, hasn't he?
	Yes.
	He also, I think, I want to say he's like spending some quality time with the family, but he may be just cruising around Missouri trying to pick up Poon and his new Porsche.
	His Porsche filled with suitcases of money.
	And cocaine.
	Can't forget the cocaine.
	Eddie, those numbers don't surprise me.
	Have we had more episodes of Midnight in the Desert than Dark Matter?
	I believe we've probably surpassed more than six weeks now?
	Well, it started on July 20th.
	Yeah.
	Today is September 2nd.
	Yep.
	And we have five nights a week instead of four nights.
	Yeah.
	And so how many weeks is that?
	Is that six weeks?
	Are we in the seventh week this week?
	I can't count.
	I don't have a calendar.
	I'm not so good at math.
	So math is not your strong point.
	One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
	Yeah, we're into the seventh.
	You almost ran out of fingers, man.
	I did.
	I'm counting on my toes.
	I have missing fingers.
	So we're in the seventh week.
	So yeah, we've already surpassed the Dark Matter Days on Sirius.
	Six week tenure needs to change his username to seven-week tenure and county.
	That's right.
	That guy showed up at Bellgab when he quit SiriusXM six weeks tenure, didn't he?
	Yeah.
	Yes, he did.
	No clue.
	That seems like a long time ago.
	It does.
	Do you guys remember the Art Bell Quits Dark Matter thread?
	That was just an abomination.
	And I don't think anybody has visited it in weeks, months, perhaps.
	We were all in a very dark place.
	That was when I bought ArtBellSocks.com.
	How dare you, sir?
	We were all in a very dark place.
	I was pretty angry.
	I got the email from Bellgab about how art had quit.
	I was like, oh, this is bullshit.
	And then I go online.
	It's like, oh my God, how does this happen?
	There were a lot of people angry.
	I will say this.
	It was a bad fit for art.
	Sirius was, you know, their internet solution was horrible.
	And it was just, it's just like the show that he has now.
	I think they should change the name of the show from Midnight in the Desert to TKO in the Desert because it really just kicks ass all over the place.
	And it's so much better than Dark Matter.
	It's worth, well, it was worth the two-year wait.
	Yeah.
	I would have preferred to have gotten it like, you know, 18 months ago.
	But yeah, you can't have everything.
	Just think if art would have started this venture podcasting venture in 2013.
	And in the ultimate universe.
	See, here at the Gabcast, we're committed to never, ever being happy.
	And Bell Gab, too.
	Yeah.
	That too.
	Definitely that.
	That's the most annoying thing.
	It's like you see the live stream, and then you see these people chiming in, going, This guy sucks.
	This is the worst show ever.
	Before the show, oh, ghosts, I'm out of here.
	Oh, man, this is so lame, bloat, dude.
	I'm going to go play Xbox.
	Whatever.
	And you know what?
	We do the same thing.
	I mean, we just pretty much did that with the EVP comments at the beginning of the show.
	At least I did.
	Well, I think we listened to it and then we dissed it.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	I've listened to so many Ed Dames episodes, you know, classic, well, of all the old Art Bell shows.
	I won't call the Ed Dames ones classics only for the joke aspect of it.
	But every time it came up on my MP3 player or whatever I was listening to it on, I still listen to it.
	I listen for art.
	So, you know, if you don't like it, don't listen.
	Bye.
	See you tomorrow night.
	Well, I don't know if you guys have noticed this.
	I don't know.
	Is it in one of the live show threads?
	David Darling, I think, is the show thread that this is in.
	There's the guy that directed that movie that they're advertising on, Midnight in the Desert, is coming on and arguing with people about whether his movie sucks or not.
	Is that the Hercules movie?
	Well, not that Hercules.
	Yeah, well, Kevin Sorbo.
	Hercules as President Bill Clinton in a post-apocalyptic future where people have to pick their nose in order to become citizens of the United States of America.
	I don't know.
	Something like that.
	We see the guy that was fighting with Coaster or something like that.
	Maybe he's fighting with me now, too.
	I must read it.
	It's pretty good trolling, I must say.
	And he's always pointing out, like, you're trolling me.
	This is an example of trolling.
	I will not be trolled.
	You're being trolled by insisting that you're not being trolled.
	You're just perpetuating your own trollings or there's a serious lack of self-awareness there.
	Troll on, B-Dub.
	Troll on, my friend.
	I don't even remember or know what you guys are talking about about the movie.
	I don't even remember, recall, or have any clue about any movie that's being advertised on Midnight in the Desert.
	Are you saying you don't listen to the ads on Midnight in the Desert?
	No, I told you before I was in the bathroom and I'm making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
	You're using that term.
	You're in the bathroom making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
	What's wrong with you?
	That's where I keep my bread, dude.
	Dude, you need help, son.
	You don't keep your bread in the bathroom, my friend?
	Well, now I can't.
	Now I feel weird.
	Well, no one looks for it.
	I feel uncomfortable now.
	Hooray, we have a call.
	Hey.
	You're on the air.
	Hello?
	Hey, this is Colchek.
	What's up, Colcheck?
	I needed to talk about Jamie Shulman.
	The craziest thing.
	Go ahead.
	I had no opinions about this movie based on the ads, but he posted in that thread a link to clips of the film that I guess he's really proud of.
	And they are objectively terrible.
	The composition is bad.
	Almost every other shot is green screen, which is fine if you know how to do that.
	He doesn't.
	Can you see the outlines of the pay pool?
	You know, the bad green screen where you can sort of see the where the green screen starts and where the body of the person is.
	You know, that is terrible 1980s green screens.
	About a quarter of the time you can.
	And he's accusing everyone who doesn't like his film of being, well, you just love big government.
	And you're a paid shit.
	Oh, wow.
	For my B movie.
	The government wants to shut down my B movie.
	Because the United States government is so worried, so worried about this movie.
	They're just shitting bricks in Washington right now because of this movie.
	There really must be some pretty deep, dark secrets in that movie.
	It's reaching tens of trailer parks right now.
	But he also said, I guess he directed a film before this called Lady Magdalenes.
	About, I don't even know what it's about, but it looked like it was about a brothel or something, not libertarian at all.
	And he said, well, the paid government people were paid to downvote that on IMDb as well.
	So somebody told me that his IMDB rating is, what, a three out of ten or something like that?
	I think the first one, though, The Lady Magdalenes is like two, and Alongside Night might be lower, which seems warranted from what I've seen of it, but I haven't watched the whole thing.
	So are these self-released movies?
	Are these independent movies?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's my understanding.
	And I think Kevin Sorbo was executive producer, which, if you've been following Kevin Sorbo's career as of late, makes a lot of sense.
	Well, he did God's Not Dead, which was successful for an indie movie because flocks of evangelicals went to see it.
	And there's nothing wrong with that.
	It wasn't a good movie.
	I like the way they cast his professor.
	Like the idea that they want to perpetuate the myth that when you go away to college, there's all these evil professors telling you that God is dead and you're stupid for being Christian.
	I'm an atheist and I went to see it with my friends and I'm a philosophy miner and I laughed in the theater and so many people were giving me dirty looks.
	But I didn't know.
	I thought it was like a satire.
	Oh, you didn't know that it was not a comedy then, so you were just having a ball laughing it up.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	There's a Chinese character in God's Not Dead who's a foreign exchange student.
	And in the end, he can't, he speaks like broken English and he converts to Christianity.
	And people in the theater applauded.
	And I said, these are real people.
	You didn't get one for your team.
	It's a movie.
	You didn't get one for your team.
	It's not real life.
	It's just the movie.
	It's like a Blair Wedge, but with Jesus.
	That's crazy.
	But if you haven't, I encourage everyone to go and watch those clips of Alongside Night because they are magnificent.
	Where can we find such said clips?
	It's in the David Darling thread, and he posted this as, I guess, a defense of the film.
	Like, you should watch some of this before you critique it.
	And that's where I got the entirety of my critique because it's technically abysmal.
	Yeah.
	But he seems very determined to keep going and attacking people.
	Well, I don't understand why he would be promoting a movie where people are trolling him or on a site where people are actually trolling him.
	I mean, does he think that he's going to win some people over?
	I think that's the biggest mistake of newbies posting on Bellgab, trying to win people over when they're obviously there just to promote themselves or their projects, you know?
	Right.
	Well, and he's fighting Obama.
	And what was that?
	He's fighting Obama.
	We're all paid.
	Yeah, we're all right.
	We're all on Obama's payroll, so remember that.
	I just got my check last week from Obama.
	Yeah, well, Obama is the largest shareholder in Taintco.
	But I didn't say that.
	You were not supposed to say that, sir.
	Now you will not get your Taintco check signed by President Obama.
	How am I going to buy that burrito I've had my eye on?
	Damn it.
	How dare you, sir.
	All right, brother.
	Well, thanks for calling, man.
	Do you have anything else?
	That's it.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, man.
	All right, bro.
	Thanks for calling.
	I'm really hoping that some of the actors in this movie are wearing green on their, whatever they're wearing, so that the backgrounds show up on their body.
	That's awesome.
	That's a sign of a great movie.
	Well done, sir.
	That is.
	The only other character, the only other person I've seen on Belgab who has behaved like this Janiel Shulman dude is that guy who's supposedly like Billy Meyer's evangelist or whatever.
	Michael Horne.
	Yeah, that guy, they're both like the same brand of crazy.
	Well, there's somebody that's been posting in that thread in the Billy Meyer thread who's done some pretty significant research in regards to some of Billy's claims.
	Specific claims, it's not a real wide avenue that he's looking into, just specific claims about, and I can't even remember what they are at the moment, but he has basically refuted, easily refuted some of the claims that Billy has made and some of the evidence that Michael Horne has cited as proof of Billy Myers' UFO stories.
	So if you guys haven't read that thread, it's actually pretty hilarious.
	And, you know, and Michael Horne, he just viciously attacks people, even if they hint that they are disagreeing with him.
	And he's trying to preach peace and love on the other hand.
	And yet he's calling people.
	He's being super confrontational.
	And defensive.
	Yeah.
	If you don't agree with me 100%, then you are my enemy.
	And you will be destroyed.
	However, we should all evolve to a higher state of consciousness where we love each other equally and treat each other respectfully.
	Yes.
	You fucking assholes.
	Exactly.
	That's pretty close.
	Pretty close to what he's doing.
	And I had, oh, I had another comment about that, but it just left my head.
	It just flew right out of my head.
	I have no idea what I was going to say.
	All righty.
	If you guys would like to call the show and make a comment, maybe if you know what I was about to say, call 623-242-2278 again.
	That's 623-242-CAST.
	You know, you guys, I have a prank call here.
	It's not from me, but Bateman let me borrow this, and he said it was cool if I played it on the show.
	And I thought I might play that for you guys here.
	Christ.
	Would you guys like to hear it?
	Oh, fuck yeah.
	It's hilarious.
	You have to be off the mic, and you have to continue to hear it.
	If I ask.
	Good evening, Service Electric Cable Charlotte speaking.
	Hello, my name is Gladys Spencer.
	I believe my husband and my son called this afternoon.
	Yes, I spoke to your husband.
	I spoke to your son.
	You guys owe $316.15.
	Your son called me a liar and accused me of skimming the money.
	And I told him I have the account right here.
	I'm reading to him exactly what was on here.
	Now, this is for three months.
	Now you're going to have June on this bill, and it's going to go up for disconnect.
	Do not cut us off.
	Tell her that.
	Hang on!
	Can you hold on a minute?
	I guess this was the inception of Marianne, the Marianne character.
	Their phone went down.
	Hello!
	I'm sorry.
	I lost you.
	I had to talk to my husband.
	He was in the other room.
	He said that you said, and he's called, he said that you might have been fibbing because you said I owe about $300, and he said that you said we owe over $400.
	Who am I to believe?
	I said you owe $316.
	I told her about the $50.
	In June, you will owe over $400.
	Your June bill is going to be on here soon.
	You owe right now $316.15.
	Then how does it bring it to $400?
	It will in June because you're going to have June's bill on here next week.
	Next week!
	It's not June!
	Next week will be June.
	Dirk, get a calendar!
	I told her about the 50s!
	And I am not fibbing.
	If you take and add your monthly bill to the 316, it'll be over 400.
	Get the calculator, too!
	I have one.
	Why don't you take 316.15 and add your monthly bill?
	What is the monthly bill?
	Hold on.
	All I have is an abacus.
	Oh, my goodness.
	$316.
	I'll tell you exactly what you're going to owe in June.
	I'll tell you what I owe you.
	$50.44.
	$115.
	$52 and no more.
	In June, you're going to owe $422 and some change.
	What is the monthly rate?
	Just a moment, and I'll tell you what that is.
	Like $50.50.
	What is it?
	What's the monthly rate?
	I don't know, Dirk.
	You pay $106.37.
	I asked her about it.
	Ma'am, you pay $106.37 a month.
	For what?
	For your service.
	You have HBL and Cinemax.
	We owe $100 a month.
	That's what you pay.
	You have the internet service of $34.95.
	You have HBO and Cinemax, which is $40 or which is $20.
	And your service is internet $44.
	$34?
	Dirk, is that all the point?
	How is the internet?
	$34?
	$4.95 a month.
	$4.95 now.
	$34.95 for your internet.
	You're giving me different numbers.
	I think you are fibbing.
	No, I'm not.
	I gave you $20 for HBO and Cinemax.
	$50.44 for your service for your cable, $34.95 for your app.
	Would you like me to send you a printout of your account?
	I'll send you a printout.
	Damn, if you're going to talk to me that way, I'm going to hang up.
	Tell her where she can put the print out.
	Do it, tell her.
	That is freaking hilarious, Beatman.
	Thanks, man.
	So I guess that was from what he was saying, that was kind of the start of the Marianne character, or he was still kind of working through that.
	But yeah, that's hilarious.
	They were really just yanking that lady's chain.
	Yes, they were.
	How much is internet?
	How far our little bateman has come.
	All right.
	Well, do you guys have anything else you want to talk about?
	Should we wind it down now?
	Why not?
	Welcome back, Jasmunda.
	I'm glad you aren't traveling anymore and you can poop in your own toilet.
	Yeah, you know what?
	Pooping in your own toilet and sleeping on your own pillow are two things you should never take for granted.
	Priceless.
	Just priceless.
	Just don't get the two mixed up, Jazz.
	Yes, well.
	Please don't poop on your own pillow.
	All right.
	Well, we appreciate everybody listening.
	Hey, so if you wanted to call in, you blew it.
	You blew it!
	How dare you!
	Maybe we need to insult the audience until they call.
	Maybe that should be, you know, a tactic next time.
	I don't know.
	Anyway, there are other shows on the UFO Ship Podcast Network.
	There's Michael Van Diemen's Radio Train Wreck.
	There are also The Fret Files, of course, The Gabcast and the NFL Football Fan Podcast.
	If you guys want to get Bell Gab PM notifications before any of these shows occur, go into the other talk radio/slash podcast thread and you can sign up there.
	There's instructions on the first page.
	All right, everybody, this has been the Gabcast.
	There's a podcast about football.
	There is.
	Can you believe it?
	Gracious.
	Do you have a real name for the show rather than the football podcast?
	No.
	That was the best we could come up with.
	You know, pretty descriptive, but, you know, we're not a brain trust over here.
	Me and the Mud King.
	Call the Gabcast a website podcast.
	Well, thank you.
	Hey, also, if you out there in the listening audience would like to host an episode of the Gabcast, please contact me, Eddie Dean, or any of the other hosts, Jasmundo or VW, or Michael VanDieven, MV at Bell Gab, and we will get you on because we need people to rotate in and out on the show.
	And we'd be happy to have a female energy on the show.
	It would be great.
	You got to be in the union.
	Did we have a union?
	You got to be in the podcasting union before you can do the show.
	So, yeah, so if you want to host an episode of the Gabcast, if you want to host an episode of the Gabcast and you're a female or male, female preferred actually, because it's really need to dilute the sausage fest that's going on here.
	But anyway, send your checks to me.
	I'm the guy that collects everything for the union.
	You speak it out to cash.
	All right, guys.
	We will see you next time.
	Good night.
	Bye.
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	Now get lost.
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	Got your hand off my payload.
	Do it live.

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