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23 June, 2015

23 June, 2015 ---------- PayPal payments, Morgus reveals himself, Horror Reporter wants to go back and see the last dino death, and George Noory isn't getting better.

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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 623-242-CAST.
	That's 623-242-2278.
	Now, shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	This is the Gabcast.
	It is a podcast about BellGab.com, which is a website about a radio show that no longer exists, but as I said on our false start recording this show, is a radio show that we hope will once again exist come July 20th of this year.
	That would be Midnight in the Desert, hosted by Art Bell.
	And if you'd like to be on the show tonight, the number to call is 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-2278.
	I'm a little bit flustered here because just prior to what you're listening to now on the recording, if you're listening to this show in recorded format, I spilled a jack and coke all over my desk here.
	I don't even know why I'm chuckling as I say that.
	It's the thought, the very thought of doing that is just an abomination to me.
	It's anathema to me.
	It's contrary to everything I am deep down into the fiber of my soul to do something of that nature.
	I can't believe I just did that.
	And it couldn't have been worse.
	And if I go into the bathroom, the men's room, well, first of all, I was out of, I usually have just this mammoth supply of paper towels here.
	I don't know why.
	It's just always been a thing for me to have just mountainous supplies, voluminous, limitless supplies of paper towels.
	And I go in there and I reach to grab them really quickly.
	Oh, hey, I've only got one square.
	So then I have to run into the bathroom.
	I go into the men's room to get the paper towels out of there.
	Well, that one's empty.
	I have to run into the women's room and the hand crank on the machine in there is the gears are stripped out.
	So I'm sitting there cranking, cranking, cranking.
	No paper towels are coming out.
	Oh, God, what a disaster.
	So I think this is going to be a miraculous episode of this show, starting off on the right foot as we did this evening.
	And again, if you'd like to be on the show, the number again is 623-242-CAS-623-242-2278.
	I hope Falki's okay with the idea of me having a jack and coke during the show because, you know, he's been complaining about me going home all drunk and soused to my wife, having to sit here waiting to take a cab.
	You're drunk, Samo, Birch.
	Can't believe you're drinking on a cab cast.
	Why is that?
	Why would that be something to critique?
	I mean, I can't, I mean, this seems like the perfect time to do a little bit of drinking, doesn't it?
	Sure.
	Yes.
	In hosting this show.
	Why would you not do some drinking in this show?
	And why is it viewed as some sort of a negative that I would await a taxi to take me home or a friend to come pick me up?
	So because I don't get in my car and drive drunk to go home, that's something to criticize?
	I don't understand that.
	Because it's alcohol, sir, and alcohol is bad.
	Okay.
	No, it's not.
	I mean, with moderation, it's just fine.
	If you're drinking, I guess you're not cleaning your apartment.
	So I can see how that would be.
	Yeah, as I should be.
	Anyone worth their salt would be cleaning their apartment, not drinking.
	Frodo in the chat says, MV, Cape Girardo needs Uber.
	Isn't Uber everywhere?
	There's got to be a...
	The ability for me to take an Uber here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, must exist.
	What?
	What is an Uber?
	That's where you have an app on your phone and you dial in that you would like to have a ride from where you are to somewhere and the GPS on your phone tells the nearest or the next available driver who is contracted to drive for Uber to come pick you up.
	And you even take a picture of yourself and they see before they even pick you up whether you're black or white or not and whether that means they should pick you up.
	It's great.
	Oh, God.
	I can't can't imagine what some of those pictures would be.
	Drunk people taking pictures of themselves, mooning the camera and sending it off to the driver to come find the naked man on the corner of Fifth and Elm.
	You'll know me by the small scar on my left cheek.
	Thank you.
	I'll be waiting.
	Traveled hat on my face.
	That's how you'll know me.
	You know, the only thing I don't like about Uber is they have to have your credit card number on file before they'll do any business with you.
	I don't trust that.
	Really?
	Well, Uber, the company, not the individual drivers.
	Speaking about credit cards on file and not liking certain things, what do you guys think about the PayPal thing in order to subscribe to Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert?
	To become a time traveler, a lot of people complaining on Bellgap about having to use PayPal in order to facilitate this transaction.
	I don't know if I caught most of the show you guys did the other night, but not all of it.
	So you may have already discussed this, but so what?
	So what?
	What do you think?
	I mean, in my way of thinking, I've used PayPal to pay for a billion different things.
	My bank accounts are attached to it.
	My credit cards are attached to it.
	I've never had a problem, but I've definitely seen horror stories from people who have.
	People who've had their accounts just simply drained of funds.
	Any number of horrible things that have happened as a result of people using PayPal.
	But there's the part of me that says any product or service out there you could say that about, I mean, it could be Firestone tires.
	Well, yeah, actually, those were in the news years ago.
	I mean, people's tires were blowing up.
	So, I mean, whatever product or service it is that we're talking about, if it's something that's receiving widespread use, there are going to be people out there who have horrible things to say about it, who've had abominable experiences with it.
	And that's just going to be the way it is.
	I mean, I guess ultimately this comes down to, can you pay for a subscription to Midnight in the Desert, Art Bell's new radio show, by simply plugging in a credit card number and your name?
	Can you do that?
	You can't at the moment, but I don't see why that couldn't be an option.
	I mean, I have no issue with PayPal.
	I've used it for 10, 15 years.
	But people obviously have an issue.
	There should be another option.
	I agree.
	What I would like to see, and the way I think things ought to be set up, is you simply land on a payment page where you put in your name, your billing address, your credit card info, and your billing phone number and submit.
	And you can select recurring charges or you can select a one-time payment, and then that's it.
	Maybe they're looking to do something like that a little bit further down the road.
	I think you're right.
	Yeah.
	Like you buy anything on the internet and you put in your address, you put in your name, your address, your whatever, your shipping address.
	Then you get the option, do you want to pay by credit card or do you want to pay by PayPal?
	And then you can select recurring or whatever you want to do.
	Almost every merchant service on the internet has that ability.
	I think you can actually set up PayPal to accept credit cards.
	I think there's a special account that you can create where people can click on the icon that you put on your website and they can type in their credit card number and pay.
	But that is a, I believe that is just a one-time payment and it's not a recurring thing.
	So maybe there's an issue with that.
	But I do expect that Keith and Art are going to make several payment methods available as we get closer to the 20th.
	But I myself, I'm perfectly content paying with PayPal.
	I don't mind that at all.
	I just do have a problem with that.
	I just do agree that there should be other methods.
	There is reason to hate PayPal.
	I mean, there are reasons to hate that company.
	I certainly won't deny that.
	And I won't minimize the experiences, negative experiences people have had with it and just say, oh, shut up, you Luddite.
	Stop your complaining.
	Get in there and use your PayPal and shut your face.
	I want some.
	The more ways there are to pay, the more subscriptions they'll get.
	So I'm sure that's on the table.
	I want to know: is there an option to pay in cash in an envelope or a brown paper bag?
	There should be.
	What I want to know is: listen, I'm going to be doing a lot of lawn mowing soon.
	I don't know if I've let you guys in on this or not, but I'm going to be mowing Art Bell's lawn.
	And you got that gig.
	Well, really good.
	Things are in motion.
	Wheels are in motion.
	Wheels are in motion.
	I can't talk about it.
	Does that mean you have to do that monthly?
	Well, I just want to know, as I'm mowing Art's lawn, how many months' subscription will I get per mowage?
	Two?
	I think I've never seen Art's Lawn, but I'm just sort of in my mind guesstimating how large it is.
	Grass growing?
	Yeah, does grass even grow?
	Well, do you remember that episode of Coast years ago?
	Art was saying that grass was just growing on his property in a really strange, uncharacteristic way to the point where it was, you could call it lush.
	It was growing to that extent.
	So I have to think that that has persisted over these years.
	That might have been during the great El Nino of the 90s.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, there's not been water since then.
	Oh.
	Oh, wait.
	I saw the news today.
	Never mind.
	There's no water.
	Okay, well, I'm going to have to.
	Maybe I can take a high-pressure washer to the exterior of Art's mobile home.
	There's got to be something I can do to facilitate my keep.
	You can bring water.
	Just gallons of water.
	Here you go, Art.
	I've heard times are tough.
	Here's some gallons of water from a strange fat man from Missouri.
	Hope you guys enjoy.
	That's perfection.
	Well, I just need to far.
	I just need to know what it is I'm going to have to do to pay for this show without doing so through PayPal.
	I mean, I can fetch Taco Bell.
	I can, obviously, I would take out trash.
	I don't even think that needs to be put on the list.
	There are just things.
	But you can't go through the trash.
	You cannot go through the trash.
	You look for tidbits of, you know, behind the curtain of Art Bell's life.
	You have to take it directly from the house to the curb, and that's it.
	I want to know what kind of...
	You can go through it.
	I want to know what kind of toilet paper Art uses.
	Single ply, double ply.
	Oh, he wasn't creeped out about the dinner thing.
	That's not going to creep him out at all.
	Well, listeners have questions.
	So you people can either go along with me on this thing or not, but I'm forging ahead.
	Yeah.
	Then you got to know what kind of e-cigarette he's using.
	Is he still on the e-cig?
	I think so.
	I finally got off of that.
	I was just, I was just like a monkey.
	Yeah.
	So, anyway, you're going to bring your computer in.
	I'm going to reinstall it.
	I mean, I was just toking on this thing incessantly.
	If you looked at me, that thing was in my mouth.
	I could not, it was as though my body couldn't properly absorb naturally surrounding oxygen unless it was being accompanied with an e-cig.
	That was the rate at which I was sucking on those things.
	I finally got off of that.
	How did you get off of that?
	I just ran out of e-cig cartridges and I said, okay, this is it.
	Hold on, baby.
	Here we go.
	Everyone stay away from me for about a week.
	That's how it went.
	And you just have to tell yourself, okay, you know what?
	I can't always be 1,000% comfortable and fulfilled.
	I'm going to have to suffer a little bit.
	Okay, fine.
	Fine.
	So that's what I did.
	I just stopped ordering cartridges and that was it.
	But I can assure you that was far easier to accomplish than it would be had I gone from smoking actual cigarettes to not having any nicotine intake.
	That would have been far harder.
	You didn't use the patch or you didn't use the nicotine gum or anything.
	You went from cigarettes to the e-cig and then cold turkey.
	Yep.
	And so people who are anti-E-CIG, you're crazy because that is a wonderful way to get off of cigarettes.
	It's also a wonderful way to continue engaging in the habit that you enjoy smoking cigarettes without the combustive nature of a cigarette that leaves your lungs full of tar and other horrible things.
	I mean, you're doing it right now.
	Yeah, I mean, it's the most amazing thing ever.
	I mean, there's a company called V2 SIGs.
	That's where I got all of mine.
	And you should check it out because you can get really high-quality, inexpensive cartridges and the batteries.
	Everything is just wonderful.
	What was the flavor that you were using?
	Oh, God.
	They were just a wide-range peppermint.
	There was grape.
	That's the one I'm smoking right now, is the grape one.
	You smoke an e-cig?
	I just started doing it.
	You just started doing it.
	Yeah.
	What are you, 48?
	And you're just now starting an e-cig?
	I don't understand this.
	I'm not 48, sir.
	How dare you?
	Now, this person calling in right now, I'm really honored that this person has taken a moment to call us because, to my knowledge, he's never called into the show.
	Hi, Morgus.
	Hey, I just put a Skype on my phone, so I'm testing it.
	This is the Morgus.
	Yep.
	You don't sound anything at all like I envisioned you.
	You don't sound like your avatar.
	I'm kidding.
	Well, it's an alias.
	I expected you to sound extremely, exceedingly monotone.
	I don't know why.
	That's not to suggest your posts are boring or anything like that.
	It's just your posts have a certain tone about them.
	And so I didn't expect you to sound very animated, but you sound like a rather animated person.
	This is unexpected.
	I'm going to step away.
	I'm just, I'm taking it back.
	Envy's all got the flutters now.
	Over you, Morgus.
	Morgus, you've been posting on Belgab forever.
	I mean.
	Yeah, like I said, I looked it up and it's like my four-year anniversary last week.
	Let me ask you this: you know, you know so much about Coast to Coast AM, Coast to Coast AM history, George Norrie history, Art Bell history.
	You are a walking encyclopedia.
	And so I have to ask you, have you ever touched a woman's breast?
	Go.
	Yeah, a couple times.
	Okay.
	What was it like, sir?
	Did you fill us in or what did it feel like?
	No, I'm just messing with you there, buddy.
	Well, what brings you to the show tonight?
	Like I said, I wanted to check my Skype thing.
	You mean to tell me you're testing audio?
	That's why you're calling our talk show.
	Yeah, well, that's one thing.
	As I said, something similar during the spec sheet earlier tonight, you know, you are hosting a formidable, successful radio show when people are calling in just to test.
	I have an app on my phone.
	I need to test it and make sure it's working so that when I speak to Aunt Ethel tomorrow from the family reunion and show her video of all of our cousins that she never speaks to any longer, I know it's going to go well.
	You know what?
	That's why we're really getting a free way to call in the art show.
	So I'm getting to say that.
	That's a great idea.
	We should have the listeners call us up and test their phone connection and we can judge whether their quality of their phone connection is good enough so when they call in art, he won't yell at them.
	Keith was saying he was worried that everybody's phone connection is going to be too bad for their new, you know, high-quality AAC screen.
	I wonder, is art going to accept conventional Skype calls from people like this, you know, like PC to PC type Skype calls?
	Yeah.
	See, I find that a little bit off-putting.
	Why?
	I just, you know, when, like during Dark Matter, when people would call, like when Jazz Munda would call in, this is Andy from Australia on the electronic shot.
	It just felt off-putting to me.
	Like, the caller should not be this clear.
	They should not have this level of audio fidelity.
	The caller should sound like a caller.
	That's how I felt.
	Oh, I see.
	So perhaps we.
	Well, I mean, do you know what I'm saying?
	I mean, don't you guys kind of feel the same way?
	It just sort of seems like something is out of alignment when I hear that.
	It is a little bit of a shock.
	Morgus, what do you think?
	Oh, I missed the question.
	Don't worry about it.
	Redacted.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	It's really good, Chad.
	I think the shock of the good audio quality is a shock to all of us, but not everything's going to be, you know, 1996.
	I was not aware of this.
	I know.
	I hate to break this to you right now.
	This hurts me so much more than it hurts you.
	I just want to be transported back to my youth.
	I know.
	Me too.
	It'll be okay.
	Have a drink.
	You got a fresh drink?
	I do.
	It's in my hand.
	I poured another.
	Good.
	Do you think art should probably use some type of a filter on the Skype calls to make it sound like they're talking from a potato phone?
	I would be entirely in favor of that.
	I really want the caller to sound like they are calling in an airstrike on Charlie.
	I want them to sound as though they are on entirely analog RF equipment.
	I just cannot handle this high-fidelity Skype stuff.
	I don't know.
	Your landline that you just installed, your illegal landline, however you installed that, that's perfect.
	What are you talking about?
	That's not a perfect sound.
	What am I talking about?
	You called on your landline on Sunday.
	Do you not remember?
	Oh, yeah, I did, but it's only slightly illegal.
	No, I'm kidding.
	It's not illegal at all.
	I don't know why you say that.
	I'm just bringing it up because it has the perfect telephone.
	Did you feel like it sounded the way a telephone should sound?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I haven't heard my call.
	I'm going to have to go back and listen to that.
	Yeah, I looked that thing up on Amazon.
	It was like 38 bucks.
	The OB100?
	Yeah.
	Isn't that amazing?
	You can take that box, buy it, you just pay for it one time, and then you hook it up to your Google Voice account, which is free.
	And hey, you've got a home phone with unlimited calling, inbound and outbound, all of North America.
	Isn't that insanity?
	These are great times to live in.
	Yeah, I'm trying to get my brother to do that in his house because he just got a Verizon wireless home phone for 20 bucks a month or something.
	And I said, look, you can do that for 40 bucks and you never pay again.
	Morgus, you know, you've completely shattered my perceptions of you.
	I don't know.
	I just, you're not at all what I expected you to be.
	Do you guys feel the same as I do?
	He just doesn't sound like I expected him to sound.
	I don't know why.
	I think it's because your posts are so matter of fact.
	I think that's why.
	It's really Johnny on the spot.
	I mean, he, somebody has a question about radio or what time a show is or any kind of a clip, stuff like that.
	I mean, he posts a lot of information.
	Yeah.
	Morgus, Morgus, can I ask you a question?
	Do you remember a George Norrie episode where he had Morgus in the studio with him and he played, they did some bit together.
	You really think he's like, I don't, I'm not aware of this Morgus fellow.
	This was perhaps one of the worst George Norrie attempts at humor or bits or whatever that I've ever heard.
	And what did he do?
	He pretended to hit Morgus or Morgus to hit him or something.
	Do you recall that?
	Slap him or hit him or something like that.
	Morgus, don't let us down.
	You remember, right, buddy?
	Come on.
	Yeah, he's like that.
	Yeah, yeah, he does.
	You were saying to hit him, punch him in the face.
	Yeah, punch him in the face.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	And you said, don't worry, I have like a protective shield or something.
	And of course, it didn't.
	I don't think that's what happened.
	You know what we've done here?
	No, no, he's right.
	I don't know.
	We've just pulled the curtain back a little bit and we've revealed that what Morgus is actually doing before he posts is he's going back.
	He's Google searching.
	He is jotting down notes and then posting as though this were just information that flows freely from him.
	A little disappointed, sir.
	I didn't know it was going to be trivia night.
	Sorry.
	We won't tell anyone.
	No one on Bellgab will know anything about this.
	It's funny.
	Okay, Morgan.
	That's one of the strings that broke the chemical.
	I'll tell you one thing that happened today.
	I got my kit in the mail from Ancestry.com's DNA kit.
	Anybody ever do that?
	Well, I don't know what that is.
	I leave a lot of DNA around everywhere, but I never do it in the form of a kit.
	Tell me more.
	You know how you do that?
	It has a little plastic tube and you're supposed to spit in it.
	You have to get it up to a certain line.
	I don't know how much, but you've got to send them a sample of your spit.
	You know, DNA really has come a long way because there was a time where it was an absolute impossibility that you could extract enough DNA just from spit to generate any kind of a profile.
	Let me go ahead and take this call.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	DNA's there.
	Hello?
	How are you doing?
	Hi, we're fine.
	How are you?
	I'm just doing fine.
	This is a horror reporter.
	Oh, hi, horror reporter.
	How are you?
	Horror reporter.
	Hey.
	Now, you've never called either, have you?
	I've never called.
	I hope my phone doesn't sound too good right now.
	I want to sound like a call.
	I find it acceptably low rent.
	Yes.
	Just the right amount of bad.
	Exactly what I'm going on.
	You know, for some reason, I thought, for some reason, horror reporter, I thought for the longest time that you were a woman.
	I don't know why.
	Well, there is a horror retro on the board.
	I think that's a woman.
	I could be wrong.
	I've never had her gender identity party invitation, so I have no idea.
	But I think she may be a woman.
	Okay.
	See, it's amazing the things I don't know about my own forum, but okay.
	Well, you have a great light.
	A few people confuse me with her, but that's okay.
	I'm actually looking right now to the sky.
	I'm watching the Northern Lights.
	I actually hear some wind.
	Doesn't this phone sound horrible?
	It's great.
	Oh, I love it.
	Thank you.
	I'm glad it sounds as bad as it does.
	Your phone sounds so horrible, I feel like my blood pressure is going down.
	I'm just transported back to 1997.
	What were you saying during the hurricane that you temporarily were standing in?
	I almost spoke my drink.
	I'm actually outside right now with a boxed wine, a glass of boxed wine, a blanket, and I'm looking towards the sky to try to see northern lights.
	Listening to your show.
	Where are you located at?
	Pennsylvania, as a matter of fact.
	You can see northern lights in Pennsylvania?
	Possibly tonight there will be.
	There's a big solar storm.
	This is the perfect night for someone like Arpell to have a radio show.
	He used to love these nights.
	There's going to be pretty far-reaching northern light down to the south.
	It's probably boring everybody listening, of course, but I'm pretty fascinated.
	We're going to keep you on for the duration of the broadcast, sir.
	So these northern lights, tell me more.
	From the north.
	And they're lights.
	And you can see them.
	Some called them the Aurora Borealis.
	I'm not familiar with that term, sir, but we would ask you not to use profanity on this program.
	Thank you.
	My apologies.
	Still another drink.
	I have heard of instances where people could see the Aurora Borealis from far further south than normally is the case.
	But Pennsylvania, I had no idea.
	That's insanity too.
	Last night in Georgia last night had reports of northern lights.
	No kidding.
	Well, this world is full of surprises that I just was never prepared for.
	Well, if you want some trivia, if you want some trivia, do you know what southern lights are called?
	I don't.
	Aurora Australis.
	You know, I hadn't ever really considered that there would be southern lights.
	I thought this was like a redneck joke, Jazz.
	You disappointed me.
	Sorry, I was just going to say that.
	I thought you were going to get factual information.
	I was going to get ready to quote the lyrics from a Molly Hatchet tune or something.
	I had never considered that.
	Southern lights.
	Well, you don't really hear much of it because there aren't many southern latitudes that are even as in land which would actually get those lights.
	But apparently a few days ago, here, not far from me, received some southern lights early in the morning, which is quite rare.
	So, horror reporter, tell us what it is you do on your blog.
	Give yourself a little plug there.
	I don't really ask for the plug, but I appreciate it.
	Oh, you're getting a plug.
	I'm not too sure what I do.
	The actual site began, believe it or not, back in 1998 on a GeoCities website.
	Didn't they all?
	I think there was an Angel Fire.
	Yes, I admit it.
	There was an Angel Fire subdomain at one point.
	I know.
	Again, who didn't have one of those?
	And they still exist.
	Angel Fire, by the way, still exists.
	All the tapes on Angel Fire are still there, interestingly enough.
	GeoCities have all been deleted.
	However, then it became the horrorreport.com and just took sale from there.
	I don't know if it's too spectacular, but it's just a fun little thing I do.
	So what is it you do on the blog?
	What can people expect to see there?
	Strange news, horror movie news, Art Bell news, as a matter of fact.
	kind of took to reporting on Art Bell since back in 2001, I believe it was, when I started to realize that this internet stuff is pretty cool, and you could sort of get a certain segment of people to read your stuff.
	That was pretty fun to think about.
	And at that time, I mean, the only thing about Art Bell was coasttacoastan.com at that time.
	So it started from there.
	Sadly, a lot of the old stuff I have is gone.
	Completely gone.
	A domain switch occurred.
	I had a huge amount of problems from GoDaddy.
	A lot of stuff vanished and disappeared.
	Of course.
	Yeah, honest to God.
	It just the most popular, but yet the worst hosting company on the planet.
	They absolutely are.
	One of the worst companies in all of the world.
	GoDaddy.
	You know, I think everybody kind of has a story like that about their website that they've run for years and years and years.
	And there was this whole golden period of time where they had all this amazing content that just got lost.
	Yeah, and then when you call their phone, they have a little joke about it.
	You want to talk about cats?
	It's the last thing you want to hear.
	What do they say?
	You actually should call their number on your program and just see what it says.
	That would be fun.
	But there's a little thing where, you know, press one for this and press two for that.
	And press three if you just want to talk about cats.
	And I thought, well, that really isn't.
	Yeah, I know how that feels because when I had all of my problems with SparkNode and Bellgab was down for two days over a weekend, and if I had called up and heard something like that on the phone, I would have beaten somebody with the phone.
	But you're so trapped, though.
	You're trapped by these people in whatever place they're answering, and they don't want to help you.
	They really don't.
	I'm not even sure where they are, who they are that you care less what your situation is.
	Because then it's just, oh, this guy's website's down.
	Who cares?
	Look at this website.
	It's some mediocre website with bad design and colors.
	That's what they would probably look like.
	It's not condescending while they're at it, too.
	Well, they are.
	Absolutely.
	And the one time someone actually said to me, oh, I'll just book walk to your site, dude, and we'll go back and read it sometime.
	I said, I really appreciate that.
	I said, hey, Nate will be gone thanks to you guys.
	You won't get the chance to.
	But anyway, wow, we're slamming GoDaddy here.
	That's okay.
	They deserve it.
	So your website, the URL is horror report, W-H-O-R-E-Report.com.
	Go there, read up.
	There's all kinds of great information about turning tricks, being a John, anything of interest to you.
	It's all there.
	Info, free of charge, right?
	Free of charge.
	Absolutely.
	No PayPal for me.
	I actually haven't, you asked the question before.
	I have not signed up yet to be the time traveler quite yet.
	I'm going to.
	I just, I understand the predicament that Keith is probably in right now, but PayPal would not have been my first choice.
	However, if it's the only choice I have, it's going to have to happen.
	Somebody did make a good point that in selecting PayPal, you have insulated yourself from the need to feel concerned about security.
	I mean, when you're accepting money from people online, there's really a huge element of security concerns that come into play.
	Absolutely.
	And using PayPal as the mechanism to do that, you really do sort of obviate a lot of those concerns.
	I think it makes perfect sense as to why they did it.
	It makes sense to me.
	And like I say, I will sign up to be the time traveler at some point.
	Just haven't done so yet.
	I'd have to go back and try to find my PayPal password.
	By now, someone probably hacked me and has my entire identity.
	Someone asked if I was a time traveler.
	I said, yes.
	I have already traveled back and punched Stalin in the beanbag.
	Where would you go in time if you could be a time traveler, sir?
	That's a great question.
	R. Bell said he would go back to see if Jesus actually existed.
	I would like to see what actually happened to the last dinosaur on the planet.
	Not the first.
	I actually don't believe that the asteroid hit.
	I think there was some other process that occurred.
	I want to see the last dinosaur perish.
	Hmm.
	That would actually, I've never heard anybody say that, but as I think about that, you're right.
	There had to be a last T-Rex.
	I mean, they didn't just evolve into birds.
	The T-Rex didn't.
	I mean, there may be dinosaurs that did evolve into birds, or various other animals.
	But, I mean, there are dinosaurs that just died out and didn't evolve into other things.
	And I guess things like the T-Rex, the pterodactyl that didn't evolve into a single.
	It did.
	Just picture the landscape.
	I would assume if there's a dramatic event, a field or whatever of just dead dinosaurs, and this last dinosaur stares out and just gives that final breath and dies.
	It's a very morbid thought.
	However, I think that it's quite fascinating thought to consider what did happen to the dinosaurs.
	What would you do after he dies?
	Would you just stand there and have a cigarette and stare awkwardly at him?
	Go back to selfie.
	I'll take a selfie to be standing on his promoter license back there.
	I hate our species and where we've come to.
	That is what somebody would do.
	They would take a selfie and they would come back to 2015 and they would post it on Facebook.
	But unfortunately, they would have killed a fly or something, which would cause Facebook to be spelled backwards in the future in order to get to it or some crazy thing.
	Good point.
	I like that.
	See, that was a good George Nori drop right there.
	He missed it.
	That's right.
	I really wish I could do a George Norrie impression.
	I just.
	Oh, hey, George is on.
	Hey, George.
	What's it like to talk to George Norrie, by the way?
	Bro, what's it like the same thing?
	You're talking to not only R. Bell, but George Nori, the guy who has been despised by everyone who goes to your website for years.
	What's that like?
	Oh, you're asking me?
	That's a good question.
	I am.
	I am, actually.
	I would be very curious in there.
	I don't know.
	Have you ever had herpes?
	I don't find, I mean, I don't find him to be, I don't find him to be particularly objectionable as a person.
	I mean, I understand that there are things that he's done in hosting coast that people find objectionable, whether it's the David Oates thing or, you know, there are examples.
	But, I mean, if I saw George in a bar on a Friday night, I'd sit down and have a drink with him.
	What fascinates me about George Nori more than anything else is when he's on anyone else's radio program, he sounds like a normal human being.
	I know.
	Isn't that just something in his head?
	He's on his own program.
	He just collapses and he just possible.
	Is it possible it's just too late at night?
	No, I think what happens is on his own radio show, he is not in his comfort zone.
	And he's never been in his own comfort zone.
	When he inherited that radio show, he inherited it under inauspicious circumstances with art having gone away and an audience that expected a replacement host to be the next Art Bell.
	He wasn't.
	He couldn't be.
	He was never going to be.
	And so he never entered a comfort zone to speak of.
	And that continues to this day.
	That mental circumstance that envelops him every time he sits down to host that radio show on a nightly basis continues to this day, 11 years later.
	And I think that's why that's the case, because anytime I've heard him, he's called into the spec sheet once and he's called into this show.
	I've spoken to him on two occasions, and on both occasions, I've come away saying, there is nothing about that guy that I just spoke to that would cause me to feel the negativity that I otherwise have felt toward him.
	I mean, for years I was angry at George, and I remember the initial period of Bellgab.
	I think the first post submitted to Bellgab ever, I think, was the George Nori quotes post, which was an aggregation of George Norrie quotes I had found everywhere, I think on GLP and other locations, and I just put them all together in one post.
	And at that time, I was so angry at George.
	I mean, the anger I had toward him was tangible.
	It was visceral anger.
	And that went away so long ago.
	Those feelings just went away so long ago.
	I am no longer emotionally committed to being angry at George Norrie.
	I'm just indifferent at this point.
	I mean, he's doing what he's doing.
	Yeah, he's doing what he's doing.
	He's going to continue doing what he's doing.
	The show has moved on.
	The show has passed me by or has fallen way behind me, whichever perspective you're viewing it from.
	And I've accepted that.
	And so, like, when I see people on Bell Gab just expressing vehement anger and outrage and just seething with anger, I can't really relate to that any longer.
	There was a time when I could, but I just, I no longer can.
	I've been there, done that.
	I've been doing this since April of 2008.
	And I just, I'm done with that, really.
	I passed the anger stage as well.
	As a matter of fact, the anger stage went about 2008 when I concluded that Bell would not really be much of a part of the show anymore.
	And isn't it sad for George?
	I mean, honestly, isn't it sad to think that he's never been able to be himself on the program that he gets paid to be on?
	That's because from the moment he walked in with his penny loafers and his cheap sports coat, he had men in suits telling him how to host the radio show.
	Well, then, if the people who art did not listen to, George did.
	That was his problem.
	Probably had to.
	Yeah, he had no choice.
	You're right.
	I mean, he was just, hey, you are the ringo star of this radio program.
	You're just happy to be here.
	You know, we brought you in from Podunk, St. Louis, Missouri, which is just a dump of a town.
	I mean, let's face it, St. Louis is not a big city.
	And anyone who is in St. Louis and thinks they're doing big-time radio is just, no, you're not.
	And so to be plucked from obscurity like that and to be thrown into a chair and heard on hundreds, hundreds.
	I mean, contemplate that.
	Hundreds of radio stations as you speak into a microphone.
	You're going to do what you're goddamn well told is what you're going to do.
	And that's what he did.
	And that's what he continues to do to this day.
	Even if George Norrie today has a little more carte blanche than he once had, he still has that psychological conditioning that says, you do what you're told, buddy.
	You're here to listen to what we tell you to do.
	Whereas art never came from that perspective.
	He was the boss.
	Art was the one who would tell you what to do.
	I never once got the impression that Art was an employee of Premier Radio Networks.
	I always got the impression that it was Premier Radio Network's pleasure that art was working for them.
	And that was the extent of it.
	And that Art would make whatever decision about that relationship that he wanted to make at any point in time.
	And he did, ultimately.
	Isn't it something, though, that at this point now, the only thing that George could be known for is a brief advertising spit where he did that nonsense for P90X and now Paranormal Date.
	And really, there's really nothing else for him.
	Like you said before, I almost don't get angry at him now.
	I find his quotes to be numerous when I hear them.
	I rarely listen.
	If I do listen, it's for like maybe 25 seconds, and that's about it, just to hear what bumper song he picked.
	And that's really it.
	That's it.
	I cannot even physically listen to him anymore.
	The problem with Coast to Coast AM and George Norrie is as follows.
	The last time, yeah, I think that the last time I heard Coast to Coast AM was after my daughter was born in September of 2012.
	In the middle of the night, I left the hospital and drove home in order to do something.
	And in that very short period of time, I mean, my home is literally three minutes from the hospital.
	In that short three minutes, I, as a captive audience, essentially a captive audience with nothing else to listen to, turned on Coast to Coast AM.
	George Norrie was on.
	And in the span of just that little random, here I am.
	I have not listened to this show since, and I know this for a fact.
	I have not listened to the show since August of 2010.
	Here it is, September 2012.
	I turned the show on for three minutes.
	Three minutes.
	That's just such a small window, random window.
	And of course, George says something stupid in that three minutes, something that just leaves me staring at the lights on my stereo, not paying attention to the road.
	Something I'm just in disbelief.
	This guy is hosting a nationally syndicated radio show.
	In the span of just three minutes, he managed to say something like that.
	Now, what does that tell you you can be prepared to hear on that show should you listen on a regular basis?
	What kind of crazy verbal faux pas, grammatical errors, you name it, what kind of craziness would you expect to hear on that show listening routinely?
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	This is Rilla Unreal.
	Oh, hey, buddy.
	Hey, dude, so listen, I emailed you about this or message you on the board about this.
	This is perfect that you're talking about this.
	George Norik is lurking on the site.
	If you're asking, yes, he is absolutely lurking.
	What is that about?
	Like, that's like him onto an anti-Nazi fucking forum.
	I don't understand it.
	Well, I don't get it either.
	I mean, if I were to become aware of a collection of people who just rue the day that I was born, it's not really productive for me to go there and try to convince anybody otherwise.
	And I don't really see what I get out of the effort in trying to do so.
	What gets me is that he's always surprised at our reaction.
	What do you mean?
	You guys don't like me?
	But why?
	Why don't you like me, you guys?
	Come on.
	Let me ask you this.
	That's what some of these lowlifes are starting to do.
	Eddie Dean, you silly goose.
	Let me ask this question, though.
	Is there a forum that actually likes George Norrie?
	Because like you guys, I've been on these for probably like over a decade.
	And if you guys remember when Nori came in, it was like a virus that hit these communities.
	Everybody gave him a try for about a year, and then it was like the fucking Mayans with the Aztecs or with the fucking Spaniards coming in.
	This virus just went over all the C2C communities of Norrie, and then everybody just split, and pretty soon GeorgeNorriSucks.com was the only one left.
	So is there still a community that actually likes him?
	Yeah, it's the falkey thread.
	Have you ever seen someone do a philosophical about face in such a pronounced way?
	The way Falkey just, because George Norrie bought him a pair of fucking glasses, suddenly is a George Nori fan.
	After years and years and years of vilifying that man on YouTube, saying the most abominable things about him that I wouldn't even have the balls to say.
	And then because George Nori buys this guy a pair of glasses, suddenly he's a George Nori fan and we should all be nicer to George when he calls the Gabcast.
	Isn't that a hooch?
	That is amazing.
	That is amazing.
	It is really pushed off.
	I'm not on that much, so I don't know all the subplots, but man, that's fucking hilarious.
	Yeah, somebody mentions the old Saucy Rossi mentions the Fantastic Forum.
	Isn't there a Nighthawkhawk forum or something like that?
	Was they called the Nighthawk when he was in St. Louis?
	Yeah, there was the Nighthawk Zone.
	Yeah.
	And that was run by this crazy guy named Bad Boy who would, I think he would ban you if you said anything negative about George Norrie.
	He would.
	Yeah, no, I was on that site for like a minute and I was like, what kind of dictatorship is this?
	It's just hardcore ball suck.
	And he used to do it to Art Bell, too.
	And then I found MD shit.
	It was much better.
	Well, thank you.
	I agree.
	I could imagine any form about.
	I'm sorry to interrupt.
	I'm going to let you know.
	You said, I'm sorry to interrupt, and then you promptly placed your phone in your ass.
	What did you say?
	What better place for it to vibrate?
	But here's the truth.
	I'm just saying, I just wanted to congratulate you and all you know religion.
	I'm going to let you guys get back.
	Thank you very much.
	I don't know what you congratulated me for, but I'll take it.
	Thank you, sir.
	That was Gorilla Unreal.
	Another user whose name I went a long time without seeing, and I thought it was nice to be contacted by him the other day.
	So if you'd like to call us tonight, the number is 623-242Cast.
	It is 623-242Cast.
	There have been a lot of people who have tried to call in, but they were calling while somebody else was on the phone.
	So please keep trying to call, and we will get to you.
	I think Bateman tried to call.
	He was one of them.
	So if you're listening out there, just give it another try if you'd like to be on the show tonight.
	What do you guys think about that?
	I mean, do you feel as you contemplate what happened to Coast, as you contemplate George Norrie's approach to hosting that show?
	I know all of you at one stage or another felt anger, but are you like me where you just sort of have given up on that at this point?
	Absolutely.
	When he buys me a pair of glasses, I might change my tune.
	But no, I don't hate the guy.
	Really?
	What's it I hate him for?
	I just don't listen to him.
	Problem solved.
	Wow.
	That was definitive.
	Okay.
	I've broken a couple of radios because that guy sucks so bad.
	Have you really?
	Yes, I really.
	You swear to God, you're not bullshitting me.
	You have physically damaged audio equipment.
	I have.
	I've broken three radios because it pissed me off so bad that he's on the air and we can't.
	There's no one else.
	Really, that's my thought.
	There's no one else that can be found, hired, that can host this show.
	No one?
	This is what we got?
	This is what we're stuck with?
	That always baffled me.
	Radio off the table, out the plug, out from the wall.
	Smash that goddamn thing.
	It just makes me that happy.
	Wow.
	So you've got anger issues.
	I do.
	I have a little bit of anger.
	He would destroy a perfectly good radio because of a programming decision that accompanied.
	Well, you know, I'm a little concerned.
	I did not know this site of Redacted existed.
	I have fiery emotions you don't know about.
	Well, that's why I like you.
	Hi, this is Nancy Burns.
	Hi, Nancy.
	Hi, how are you?
	How are you doing?
	It's nerve-wracking.
	Wow.
	It's what?
	It's nerve-wracking.
	What's nerve-wracking?
	What do you mean?
	Well, okay, let me tell everybody who probably doesn't, everybody else, if you have Skype and you plug in the, it's not even the Gabcast.
	It's not even the period Gabcast.
	Mine says Gabcast host.
	And then I assumed I had to wait for you guys to accept me on Skype as your savior type thing.
	You know, you have to accept me.
	But nonetheless, it doesn't work that way.
	You just push that button and boom, you're in the show.
	Well, you have not been accepted by us, but you are on the show.
	Wow.
	So, yeah.
	So can I veer the conversation to Bella Haven a little bit?
	You do whatever you want to do.
	Let's hear it.
	Well, you know, I have come to love Bell Gab, and that's because MV is, you know, secretly brilliant to be able to.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Stop it, Dia.
	Stop it, Dia.
	You got to do the morning voice.
	Do me a little morning voice.
	I love the morning voice.
	I can't perform.
	I'm sorry.
	Ah, the morning voice.
	Do it at some point.
	But anyway, whatever I want to do this show, I'm trying to do a let's talk about what just happened on Art Bell's show.
	I think I would explode without this show.
	But you do realize that on Dark Matter Radio Network, they are going to have a what just happened on Art Bell's show show.
	No, they're not.
	I know that for a fact.
	No, they're not.
	We don't know that?
	I thought we did.
	Okay, I'm not a completely crazy person.
	I haven't just gotten this idea and sat in a vacuum with it.
	I have, in fact, talked to Keith about it a lot.
	I was going to ask that.
	Have you spoken to Keith about that?
	Yeah, a lot.
	And in fact, I kind of credit Keith with helping to shape the show up mentally as we kind of talked about it a long time.
	Remember when Keith left for he quit?
	Was that over the Jimmy Church thing or was that over when he was doing it?
	Well, the Jimmy Church thing he was fired.
	Okay.
	I think the music was.
	No, the Jimmy Church thing, that was just a bump in the road as we look back for Jimmy Church.
	But anyway, so Keith, Keith is my producer as well as Angel because he's kind of turning buttons also, knobs.
	Is he?
	Yes.
	Why?
	Because it won't go on to dark matter unless Keith turns the knobs.
	Why?
	I mean, what do you is he, how is that working?
	I mean, is he just like joining the Skype conversation with you guys?
	No, what happens is Angel, and that's what I wanted to talk to you guys about because I have two problems with Bella Haven.
	Should I do it or shouldn't I?
	And Bella Haven, for those who don't know, is the show that the Art Bell after show that you would like to do.
	Yes.
	And that you would like to be carried on the Dark Matter Radio Network, which at this point seems like it may not be.
	No, no, no.
	It can't be.
	See, I, well, early in and talking.
	So I've been talking to Keith ever since I came on the network.
	That's where I was going with when Keith quit.
	And when Keith quit, we basically sort of talked him off the roof.
	He just said it had it.
	And in talking him off the roof, it was sort of like, let's try to help out in some way because he has a lot, a lot to do.
	And so we got to talking about how we can help out.
	And he got from me the assurance that I would indeed listen to the Art Bell show from the beginning to the end of the show every single night.
	He said, are you willing to do that?
	And I thought he was clowning around.
	And I said, sure, of course.
	And then as it turns out, there's a little task I can do if I'm willing to listen to the show.
	Let me make sure I understand this.
	Did he ask you that for the purpose of saying if you can do that, you will be hosting an Art Bell after show?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Two entirely separate things.
	He was basically saying, if you really want to help, there is something you probably could do.
	But first, let me just ask you, are you planning on listening to Art Bell?
	Because once you know Keith, you know he's got a very dry sense of humor.
	So I thought he was clowning around.
	So it's like, do you want to help?
	Well, first of all, tell me if you're really planning on listening.
	And I said, of course I am.
	And he said, are you seriously planning on listening from the beginning to the end?
	And I said, for what purpose was he asking you that?
	And that was for the purpose of this little task that I can do and others can do perhaps too.
	And that is, because of the music situation, every time a song comes on for the breaks, it has to be.
	Exactly.
	And so I volunteered to do that.
	And in the course of talking about, of course I'm going to listen every night, you know, from beginning to end.
	I can't imagine not.
	And that's why I told him, that's when I told him I would really like to do a show afterwards because I'm just dying to do that.
	I want to talk to people about this.
	I want to let the guest come on the show maybe and finish up if they get thrown off or something.
	So many things that you can talk about with callers.
	And I happened to kind of click with Lasha Senyuk that you know as she's Rose Girl.
	And she's got her own show on the dark matter and so forth and so on.
	So I kind of began to put it together.
	And then Keith told me a long, long time ago that, well, not so fast her rare.
	And if you know that joke, not so fast or rare.
	It's an old army joke about, you know, I have some good news and some bad news.
	And it's got to do with, anyway, it's an army joke.
	And so he said, not so fast.
	There is something that Art's got, because Keith did talk to Art about this.
	I asked him to.
	He said, I want to do something.
	So what was the bad news?
	The bad news is Art had already decided that he wanted to do a special kind of show afterwards.
	And then, you know, the cloud of silence kind of comes down.
	And that was the end of it.
	Keith will not tell me anything else.
	And so I've been kind of trying to find out and, you know, reading a lot of Belgab.
	So what you're saying is that you would like everybody to boycott Midnight in the Desert.
	No, no, no.
	This is afterward.
	I'm Nancy.
	I'm joking with you.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, see, see, I don't know.
	I'm not on safe ground here.
	Oh, you're sick.
	I have.
	Well, we're among friends.
	Why would you say that?
	Yeah, I don't understand why you feel that way.
	Because there are bureaucrats.
	Well, I don't mean what it doesn't sound like that.
	What I'm saying is I really and truly do not mean to step on Art Bell's toes or go against another dark matter host.
	I don't think anybody thinks you're stepping on anybody's toes.
	You just want to do a show.
	What's wrong with that?
	Right.
	But what if it's somebody that I love that comes on afterward?
	Then I'm going to be torn.
	What if it's the Gapcast that comes on afterward?
	I wouldn't.
	Well, I want to announce to everybody here right now, I know who the follow-up show is going to be.
	Do you?
	I do.
	Okay, then what is it?
	I know who the host is going to be.
	And you can't tell, can you?
	You can't tell.
	I don't know if I should or not because I wasn't specifically told not to tell, but I was told what it is.
	On Monday, I asked Keith.
	I had my own, I had a guess of who I thought it was.
	It was actually because you said, MV, that you don't think it's going to be an unknown if they've already set up a pay thing, right?
	Let's just say, let's just say it's a guy from Pittsburgh, but I'm not going to say it.
	Oh, that would be so cool.
	I would listen, actually.
	If you actually did it.
	I would too.
	I would be glued to that shit.
	I would probably listen to that with more regularity and just drive than the actual Midnight in the Desert show itself.
	Don't say that.
	Okay, I won't.
	Actually, though, maybe George will take you up on that and make it an after dark Pittsburgh show after college.
	Listen, I'm sitting here listening to the delayed, watching the delayed comments in the chat room, Zen Man.
	MV, hint, please.
	Oh, that's funny.
	I don't know Shite.
	Yeah.
	I am so out of the loop.
	People think that because I'm affiliated with Bellgab that I know things.
	I don't know anything.
	Yeah, well, Redacted knows.
	I know she knows.
	Do you know Redacted?
	Oh, Redacted.
	Shut up with your I don't know.
	You know everything.
	Stop it.
	Seriously, I'm so sick of this.
	I'm just like the rest of you.
	I'm a peasant just like the rest of you.
	I am.
	MV only knows the private messages that he intercepts of mine.
	No, I don't intercept any message.
	Well, I will tell you this.
	There was a time when we had this problem where everybody was replying to the PM notification email instead of going to Bellgab and replying to the PM that was sent to them that prompted them to receive a PM notification email.
	Yeah, you're so sensitive.
	Well, and that's quick special.
	Well, the problem there is, like, I mean, I got a lot of privileged information that I shouldn't have received because people just did not understand.
	You can't, if you respond to that email, if you reply to that email, it comes to me.
	You have to go to bellgab.com and go look at your private message inbox and respond there.
	So I finally just had enough and I changed the PM notification email so that it does not contain the text of the private message that was sent to you.
	And it just says, hey, you got a PM, go to Bellgab if you want to read it.
	I mean, I don't know how much better it can be than that.
	Oh, yes.
	So that's why that happened.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I mean, I would love to continue receiving the privileged information, but I sort of felt like I had just watched a snuff film every time it happened.
	So what did you learn about Redacted from the privileged information?
	She's good at math.
	Warm up the Jeep and I will break his knees.
	Redacted could help you with your algebra homework.
	Let's just say that.
	Wow.
	Well, see, so that's the thing.
	I mean, you know, I think we all are on the same page.
	We all want a great thing to happen.
	Well, what did we just talk about here?
	I'm not clear.
	Well, what is what are what?
	I guess what is it that you are wanting to communicate to the audience at this moment?
	Okay, that was number one was that if we if we go ahead and do the show, that it's not a slam against whoever's doing the after show.
	You'll be able to tape.
	I mean, our show will be archived and so will the after-show since you're already a subscriber.
	You could subscribe to the after-show and then you could listen to our show right after.
	So the meat, the meat of this whole thing, M-E-A-T, is that you are concerned in doing an after-show of your own, that it'll be viewed as some sort of a slight to the show after art.
	But you're right.
	That's stupid because anytime you do a show, there's something playing on the Dark Matter Network.
	So who cares, right?
	That's right.
	Okay, but here's my real question.
	And let's I have this rare chance to ask this question.
	Angel, my producer, thinks this is the craziest idea in the world.
	So I'm trying to do this myself.
	I have the opportunity to do speaker speaker or not do it sort of with okay tell me stop me when I've well why don't you just ask the question and then we'll ask you to fill in whatever holes can you do Can you do open source audio shows?
	Can you go on the air live with something like, say, Nicecast without having to go through something like Spreaker?
	In other words, how complicated is it?
	Are you saying you want to be able to do what we're doing right now, basically?
	Yes, yes.
	It's not hard.
	I could set it all up for you in about 30 minutes.
	All you need to do is give me VNC access to a machine.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	See, what's that mean?
	What does that mean?
	What does what mean?
	Well, VNC is a program that allows somebody from a remote location to control a computer in another location.
	So if you can get me into a computer, I can set it up.
	You're going to need hardware.
	you're going to need a mixer you're going to need see i don't think you do anymore That's to do it the way I do it, to do it the right way.
	Yeah.
	You do.
	Yeah, I do mean the right way.
	I just mean, let's just tape this thing together.
	Let's get on the air and let's build it as needed because, you know, it's three to five in the morning.
	That's the most interesting part of the whole darn thing, I think.
	Well, I will help you set it up.
	You will need to plug Belgab once every three minutes during your show.
	Yeah, you got that.
	You got that?
	Because I go to Belgab once every three to five minutes.
	Eddie, what were you going to say?
	Yeah.
	I was going to say that you're, Nancy, if you're going to, if you're planning on taking calls and having several hosts, you're going to need a mixer.
	You're going to be able to, you won't be able to bring in callers.
	You're going to need a mixer so you can do a mix minus type of a thing.
	I don't want to get too technical, but yeah, you're really probably going to need a mixer.
	And you can get one for, it will do the job for $100, maybe $200, and you should be good.
	And when he says mix-minus, what he means is everybody has seen a mixer and the sliders that are on the mixer.
	And like, if I push one slider up, that's the co-hosts on the show.
	If I put another slider up, that's me.
	If I put another slider up, that's the callers.
	And you want that stuff to go on the air when you push those sliders up, but you don't want the callers to hear themselves when you push those up.
	You don't want the co-hosts to hear themselves when you push that up, but you want it to go on the air.
	That's what mix minus means.
	And that's all stuff that you just need a hardware mixer in order to be able to set up.
	And Sabu2K in the chat room points out that a mixer is not much.
	About 200 bucks will do you.
	I mean, the mixer I'm using right now, I think I paid about $140 for.
	It's fine.
	It does the job.
	That's all I need.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, guys, how you doing?
	Hey, you sound good.
	Oh, thanks.
	Good.
	Hey, how's going on, man?
	Is this Madman Markham's friend?
	Absolutely.
	Well, I recognized the tone of your microphone.
	That's the only way I knew that.
	Hey, dude, I'm thinking about having an after, after, after show.
	I mean, if you want to listen to it, you know, I'm just saying.
	So that'll be 6 a.m. to 8 a.m.
	I was thinking like 2 to 4 in the afternoon or something like that.
	Oh, okay.
	You know, right around time where the bars are open, we can sit down and drink.
	You should do a show where you talk about what happened on Nancy Byrne's Bella Haven show.
	Oh, that's it.
	That's the ticket.
	And then someone will come on that after that and talk about what happened on your show where it was discussed what happened on Nancy's show, where it was discussed what happened on Art's show.
	Trust me, dude, you would need therapy if I had my own show.
	I'm telling you right now, people would be like, what in the hell is going on with this guy?
	Do you remember that?
	I didn't work with you then.
	That sounds good.
	Do you remember that HBO show is a sketch comedy show with Bob Odenkirk and David Cross called Mr. Show?
	And there was this one bit.
	There was this one bit that David Cross did where he was hosting a cable access TV show.
	But the problem was that the show would take calls, but the problem was it was aired a week later.
	So he would be taping the show while last week's show was actually airing.
	He would be receiving phone calls for what people were seeing on the TV at that moment.
	I mean, me describing it isn't nearly as funny as it actually was watching it.
	Just go on YouTube and type Mr. Show.
	I don't know.
	Search around, figure it out.
	Whatever.
	You know, that probably explains why when I'm trying to call Art's old show, when I'm listening to the archives, I don't get a hold of anybody.
	That may explain something there.
	Is that why?
	Because I still call.
	That's me.
	I even tried International Line, but, you know.
	I still call Bob in the morning.
	I'm like, hey, Bob.
	Hey, Bab.
	Hey, Bob, how you doing?
	I was told to call you in the morning.
	Here I am, Bab.
	I wanted to touch on that comment you guys were talking about, Nori earlier, and how frustrated Redacted got and listened to that show.
	Yeah, she's got some fire deep down inside, doesn't she?
	Yeah, she's got some.
	Oh, I got it out.
	That's what's important.
	You know, they were just clock radios, 10, 20 bucks, no big deal.
	Had to get that out.
	Who knows what would have been broken had I not just broken that clock radio, right?
	Well, if you think about it, I kind of liken it to this kind of mentality.
	You know, if I give the keys to my new, you know, sports car to my 16-year-old daughter, what do I really expect?
	I mean, do I expect her to go out and drive it like an adult, you know, a mature adult, or do I expect her to go out and tear the hell out of it?
	And that's kind of what Nori did with that show.
	I mean, he was given the keys to the kingdom.
	Think about it that way.
	So he's going to do it.
	You know, the way that he's going to do it the way the network wants him to do it, but it's, you know, he's going to do what he wants to do with it.
	And if that's running into the ground, that's running into the ground.
	You know, I mean, I can't listen to it.
	I haven't listened to it in years, as a matter of fact.
	The problem is the network measures success on paper.
	They don't measure it in terms of real-world experience.
	And on paper, that show has 600 affiliates.
	Yeah.
	And that's it.
	That's it.
	Conversation over.
	Show is successful.
	Sorry, I'm just picturing George Norrie as a 16-year-old girl.
	Why would you?
	I know where my next avatar is going.
	Hey, so Redacted, I talked to your old buddy Mark, Madman Markham, the other day.
	You actually spoke with him?
	Yeah, I need him to come over to the house and do some work, and he will absolutely not do it.
	What kind of work?
	I've got some electronics work I need for him to do.
	Do you really trust him to do it?
	I mean, is he actually qualified, or is he just sort of like a shade tree electronics guy?
	I'm telling you, guys, he's like a savant.
	This guy has mad skills when it comes to electronics.
	That's amazing.
	Is he aware that Ott Bell is coming back on the air and that he's such a living legend?
	Yes, he knows everything.
	I don't know who else talks to him.
	Do you know if he's aware of Belgab?
	Only through me, as far as I'm going to.
	You've got to get him.
	Listen, just however you can convey it to him, make him understand that nothing bad can happen by just creating an account and typing with a keyboard onto a screen and submitting the text.
	I mean, as far as I know, he does not have a PC.
	Oh, my God.
	I've never seen one at his house, so I assume he doesn't have one.
	I'm telling you, the guy's completely just, he just kind of cut himself off.
	He kind of goes between, I think it's one of his, it's not his dad, but it's like an uncle or somebody who lives in Ohio.
	He travels back and forth to visit every now and then.
	But I've offered the guy money.
	I'm like, dude, I'll pay you.
	Just come over by the house some evening and we'll take care of this.
	And he's like, no, I don't have any interest.
	So I don't know.
	I mean, I'll keep at it, but, you know.
	Wow.
	Well, I appreciate the report.
	He just doesn't realize what a big, huge fan of him that I am.
	And that I won't bite.
	I even thought about doing some like Griswood.
	She'll break his radio, but no biting.
	I thought about doing some like some gorilla tactic, you know, hidden microphone and then maybe sending it to art and that kind of thing.
	But, you know, I don't really want to ruin it.
	That sounds legal.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, Missouri's got all kinds of laws like that.
	Well, you know what, though?
	I mean, you're striking out here, but you're trying really hard.
	I appreciate that.
	Really, really cool.
	I got nothing but time.
	I'm a freaking Oracle database administrator.
	I got hours to kill.
	If he won't appear on our show, I think you should switch gears and try to convince him to get in touch with Art.
	I don't think it's going to happen.
	From everything I hear, that sounds like an impossibility at this point.
	I mean, from Art's perspective, it's a slam dunk.
	He'd have him on in five seconds.
	Yep.
	Maybe Art himself needs to try getting hold of him.
	I think that may be what gets it over the hump.
	That's probably the only thing.
	Yeah.
	I wonder if Art's asked him on the show before.
	I mean, since his appearances.
	You don't have an email address for him, do you?
	He's gone.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Saucy Rossi in the chat room says to Nancy that she should have her show carried on this stream.
	And I'm not against that.
	The problem is getting it done.
	There's no process for just sort of making that happen.
	As far as I can see, someone would have to be sitting here pushing buttons.
	I don't really see how that would work.
	I wouldn't be against it at all.
	I'm at all in favor of as much live content on this stream as possible.
	There is radio station automation software that I could use, and I could set it to tune in a certain Shoutcast stream at a certain time.
	That would be a possibility.
	But again, that's going to depend on Nancy and Bill having a Shoutcast set up.
	There's a lot that has to be done.
	I mean, there's a lot that goes into being able to do this, making it sound decent, being able to take calls.
	It's not so.
	I thought Nancy already produced the show from their location, but apparently not.
	I guess that's Angel and Keith.
	I don't understand why Keith has to do anything.
	I mean, I guess.
	Well, maybe he's just flipping the turning the stream on or bringing her show on this on his stream.
	Maybe that's what it is.
	I don't know.
	Hi, I would think.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	You're on the air.
	Hello, sir.
	Hello, governor.
	All right.
	Well, we hear you.
	I hear background noise, but I guess you don't hear us.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he just wants to see how much time we can fill until he begins speaking.
	So, MV, do you have any thoughts on who would be filling that slot?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's going to have to be somebody who is willing to sit there and listen to an entire three-hour show every single night and then be willing to, in addition to that, at 3 in the morning Eastern, put together a broadcast, a coherent broadcast.
	I mean, that's a total.
	Does it have to even be an after-show?
	That's actually its content is about arts content.
	It doesn't have to be that.
	It could be a separate show on its own with its own gifts.
	There really isn't much information there to say what it is, is there?
	No, they're asking for $5 a month, though, to subscribe.
	Right.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, it's Saucy Rossi.
	Hey, buddy.
	Saucy.
	What's up, Sauce?
	Hey, I got a couple quick things.
	For Nancy, my other suggestion was she do a pre-show before art.
	That way it doesn't interfere with the other side of midnight, and she can recap the previous night, talk about any news from today, stuff going on in Belgab.
	But isn't Brian Alvarez doing a pre-show?
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Well, sir, if you could stop calling our show with useless information.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so throw that one out.
	Hey, what's next?
	Okay, 9 a.m. is free.
	The next thing I want to talk about, we're talking about Nori and forums and whether or not there's any forums about him specifically.
	I've spent Googling time on this, like actual time spent to find out if anybody has bothered to set up a fan website for him, and I haven't been able to find a single one.
	Like nothing.
	I could be wrong.
	There could be a ton of stuff out there, and I missed it, but I haven't seen a single one.
	Isn't there a Facebook or a group on Facebook that is a fan of George Nori?
	There's probably a group on Facebook of people who enjoy eating their own scabs.
	I mean, that stupid website has a billion users.
	There's got to be.
	That's the same thing.
	That's a group to join together, you know?
	Go ahead, Saucy.
	That could be set up by IAE art easily.
	But then the other thing that, you know, I don't know how much you guys remember this whole thing.
	He, like, single-handedly destroyed the Fantastic Forum.
	Like, he, like, I don't know the whole story.
	Maybe someone like Lone Boys or somebody who's been around longer and was maybe Fantastic Forum.
	But he, like, like, connivingly destroyed it from the inside, like a virus, and just ate it, ate it away.
	And would you say his approach to doing so was to convince the moderation powers behind that forum to acquiesce to what it was he wanted?
	That he's tried with you.
	He wanted them to have people stop talking bad about him because his family was reading the forum.
	He threatened to sue them.
	He then had somebody, I can't remember who it was, but somebody who was doing like a podcast offered to do an interview with her, but then had her give all her questions to him before he would do the answer.
	Wow.
	Yeah, and then that just, I can't remember the whole story.
	So he must have really mellowed over the years because I'm sorry I'm eating, but he's never asked me to submit any questions.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, have you ever interviewed anything?
	I'm sure Fulky had to submit questions.
	I'm sorry, Saucy Rossi, what did you say?
	Well, he knows you wouldn't fall for that.
	And yeah, I remember, I think Faulky mentioned that he did send some of the questions that he'd be talking about over the Tommy.
	I could be wrong on that.
	Well, that's odd because he has never suggested that in order for him to call in, it would be a precondition that anyone has to write questions down.
	But he did suggest that if he did a show with you, that you would rename the Georgia Sucks thread.
	Wasn't there a suggestion?
	He suggested that, and I immediately publicly posted his private message where he said that to me.
	And he immediately rescinded that demand and retracted that demand, but it never happened anyway because I never pursued it.
	Yeah, I don't think he even bothered with the pre-show questions with you.
	He knew what you would do with that.
	Cousin Blake says, Envy eating, surprise, surprise.
	What's that supposed to mean, Jace?
	Speaking of renaming threads, I found my new favorite thread on Belgab.
	Is it the avatar suggestions?
	No, no.
	It's the gay, midget, Nazi, bestiality, incest, porn, danger, malicious virus thread.
	If you know what that is.
	Put a twinkle in your eye, Jasmunda.
	I wonder if that'll allow.
	I wonder if that'll make Belgab more or less likely to get through the great firewall of China.
	Jazz, have you clicked on that?
	I actually had seen it for about a couple of hours before I actually clicked on it.
	Okay, so you know what it is.
	Yeah, my curiosity got the better of me.
	Okay.
	I would suspect that naming a thread like that would get more attention than try to persuade people from clicking on it.
	Yeah, just try not clicking on something that says that.
	That provocative.
	And tomorrow.
	That was a good try from whoever did that.
	There was a law in Australia against that topic.
	Say that again, Saucy Rossi?
	I said, tomorrow in Australia, there will be a new law banning that topic.
	Yeah, I was talking to MV prior to this show saying sooner or later I won't be able to use Belgab considering the crackdown on internet usage they're doing here.
	You'll find a way to get through it, Jazz.
	Okay.
	Well, that would suck.
	Go ahead.
	How much would that suck, Jazz, if you were not able to visit Belgab?
	They'd probably be doing me a big favor in the productivity stakes, but there's always a way around things, isn't there?
	Would you move to America just so you could visit Belgab?
	Well, I would probably move somewhere closer first off.
	Belgab, I'm not the first person to say this, but Belgab really is my Facebook.
	The amount of time that I spend on there is definitely comparable to what the average Facebook addict would spend on that site.
	No doubt about it.
	Anti-Facebook.
	Well, I'll tell you this.
	I was browsing Belgab the other day on my phone, and I had the phone on sideways.
	And when the iPhone is sideways, the clock at the top is not visible.
	The one at the top?
	The clock.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I missed you going on.
	Yeah, the cock at the top.
	Oh, the timepiece.
	Oh, my.
	Got a little bit there.
	The top of the phone was not visible.
	So I scrolled to the top of Belgab, which conveniently gives you what time of day it is.
	I went to Belgab.
	He's not cooking at the top of this page.
	Where's the cock?
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, can you hear you?
	Where are you?
	How are you?
	You do?
	We do.
	Okay, good, because I couldn't hear you very well.
	How are you, sir?
	Hey, buddy.
	Jackstar.
	I'm well.
	I have a very important question to ask.
	Oh, my.
	Ooh.
	Is Art going to have Madman Markham on the show as a guest?
	As a guest?
	Or with a guest, did you say?
	Either.
	Is he going to be on?
	Well, I mean, what was it about our previous conversation that would lend to the notion that we have information to give you?
	I mean, we don't know any more than you do, I don't think.
	I've been wondering this for weeks.
	Did you hear our call with Sheffis before, who has had some contact with him?
	Yes.
	Because I thought he made it quite clear that Madman Markham doesn't really want to have anything to do with anyone in society, let alone go on a national talk radio show.
	I didn't consider his answer to be authoritative.
	You would consider ours to be, though.
	I didn't say that either.
	Well, you implied it, sir.
	And you would be misjudging.
	No, you inferred it.
	I didn't imply it.
	Oh, I inferred as a result of your implication.
	I don't just willy-nilly make inferences, sir.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I don't mean to hang up on you, but we got another call coming in.
	Do you have anything else?
	I wanted to complain about George Nori.
	I can do that anytime.
	Okay, well, we got a whole forum for that, sir.
	What are you talking about?
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Yeah, this guy has called like six times, but every time I answer, we can't hear him.
	I know who it is.
	And I hear the radio playing in the background.
	I think I know who it is.
	He's the same guy that called when we did a show last.
	Is his name Kyle?
	No.
	Mr. Stock.
	Yeah.
	Is that our SPC?
	Okay, let's all be really quiet.
	Caller, can you hear us?
	Okay, no, he's just letting the show.
	I'm just going to ban this dude.
	I'm tired of answering his call.
	Yeah, I think he's pranking.
	Well, that's a lame-ass prank just to call and not say anything.
	I don't have anything.
	At least say Baba Booey.
	Jeez.
	Something.
	Well, we're running out of time.
	We've got about 13 minutes to go.
	And then we're going to hang it up here.
	So if you'd like to be on the show tonight, the number to call is 623-242-CAST.
	That is 623-TA42-CAST.
	If you'd like to be on the show.
	Sorry.
	I was trying to get Lone Voice from Unscreened Caller to call in and give us the story about George Norrie and the Fantastic Forum and kind of how all that went down.
	So if you guys are out there, Lone Voice or Unscreened Caller, I see you in the chat room.
	So give us a call if you want to share that story with us.
	Well, my understanding is that George Norrie did what was it, Sauce Rossi said?
	Was he the one that asked that question?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	My understanding is that George began threatening legal action against the forum.
	He began pulling the whole, oh, my family reads this forum.
	And he started promising them shout-outs on the air.
	And the administration of the forum was just so sure that those shout outs were going to be valuable to them that they began yielding to his demands.
	And people who were using the forum saw that, and it pretty much made the place entirely unappealing to them.
	But what I don't understand is this Fantastic Forum 2 that ended up forming later, that did not form when these things with George Norrie happened.
	That formed years later when the woman who started the forum died.
	And I don't, so a whole bunch of people left the Fantastic Forum and started that FantasticForum2.com, which, by the way, whoever's running that forum, you're really a dunce because if you go to FantasticForumNumber2.com,
	you'll notice that you can't even read the posts unless you're signed in, which means Google has never indexed a single post on that forum, which means you will never be searching for something in Google and see fantasticforum2.com as one of the results.
	So just by that, I know looking at Belgab's traffic, the number of people that show up at Bellgab as a result of typing George Norrie sucks or whatever it is they type in order to land there, that's like 50% of the traffic on that forum.
	I mean, that's just, let's forego that.
	We don't need that traffic.
	You want to read these posts, you sign in, buddy.
	That's the way it works here at this place.
	We're keeping order.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hi.
	Like I was saying, I think it's clear that George Norrie was deliberately hired for his abilities to destroy communities and occlude discussion.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	I thought you were done.
	I didn't deliberately hang up on you.
	That's okay.
	I'm just dealing.
	Anyway, seriously, I think George is working for the shadowy men in the shadowy coats who smoke the shadowy cigars in the shadowy room at shadowy nights.
	I think I hired him to be a fucker to destroy everything.
	Well, you know, there are people who have theorized the same exact thing about Art Bell as well.
	Well, what a coincidence.
	Huh.
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, it's as good a theory as anything.
	I don't know.
	Well, if it is that way, at least Art Bell was hired to be good at it.
	George Norrie was clearly hired to be bad at it because he's obviously trying to be bad.
	Nobody could be that bad by accident.
	He's been how many years?
	Like over a dozen, and he consistently gets worse.
	And it's not like he doesn't have the ability to listen to the comments of others and get tips from them on how he can improve.
	No, no, no.
	He keeps doing the same terrible gig over and over and over and then relentlessly goes on the air, like squished out over the entire earth like a big vampire squid of communication.
	Yeah, I don't really understand that.
	I mean, in the years I worked in radio and doing these podcasts, I mean, I have verbal crutches.
	I say stupid things and I cringe when I hear these stupid things I say or do.
	And I try to learn from that and I try to say to myself, don't do that again.
	That was dumb.
	And you try and learn from that sort of thing and move on and do a better job in the future.
	And it seems like there's no sort of progress with Nori and Coast to Coast AM in that regard.
	I've just not seen it.
	It may be a regression.
	To find out how he destroyed that forum, somehow I'm just not shocked at all.
	I would expect exactly that from him.
	You're saying what I said, the synopsis that I delivered?
	Or are you reading something that somebody posted?
	Oh, I'm not reading anything.
	I'm just saying if George Norrie was to show up at any forum about him or his show, I would expect him to behave exactly that way.
	Oh, no, you can't say anything bad about me.
	That has to be removed.
	Yeah.
	Just out of interest, bellgab2.com is available.
	Snap up if you're not.
	Oh, hey, do you have any health issues, MB?
	Well, if you start using bellgab2.com, you're never going to see my saucy avatars there.
	So I just want to tell you, you're going to be missing out in some ways.
	It's not going to be an entirely congruent experience.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hey, oh, oh, you can't say anything bad about me either.
	I hear redacted in today.
	Yeah, it's you.
	Go ahead, buddy.
	Okay, this is Frodo.
	How the hell are y'all doing tonight?
	Hi, Frodo, with a P. That's me.
	With a P.
	Well, I think P implies the H, you know?
	Yeah, no.
	So what's up, man?
	What are you up to?
	I'll say, hey, how about you?
	I had a few Jack and Cokes sitting here listening to with my son.
	Are you turning my radio or laptop down?
	And yeah, please turn the speakers down on your listening device.
	And so you're sitting there.
	You are entirely inebriated while watching your child.
	To what extent is he being neglected?
	Not at all.
	He's sitting here watching and giggling and smiling.
	I've introduced him to Belgab tonight.
	How old is he?
	Gabcast.
	He's 12.
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to ask, are the diapers getting changed?
	Are the bottles being presented?
	You know, there are things that you have to do.
	Diapers and mostly beyond bottles.
	Well, I hope to have my daughter off diapers by 12.
	It's not looking good thus far.
	She speaks two languages fluently, but I can't get her to poop in the toilet.
	The damnedest thing.
	Well, let me tell you, the first time he got off diapers, we went camping.
	He saw me taking Liz up against a tree.
	He did the same, and that was it.
	He was done.
	If only the same could be seen for Sedford George Norrie, we'd be all right.
	That he whizzes on trees?
	I wish he did.
	I wish he were a tree-wizzing kind of guy.
	I don't think he is, though.
	Well, that's what my wife used to say.
	I forgot what I was going to call you all about.
	I just want to call you and say, hey.
	And he's sitting here and watching and was watching me on Gabcast and Chat Room.
	Well, Frodo's son, if you're listening, I just want to tell you that there's no harm in having a couple Jack and Cokes right there with your pa.
	You guys have a good time.
	I actually gave him a sip earlier and he said, nasty.
	Well, you know, I think it's a healthy thing to let kids have a little bit of alcohol from time to time.
	I'm not of the philosophy that if your child has a sip of alcohol, they're going to become a raging alcoholic.
	If anything, I think that sort of takes a little bit of the mystique out of the notion of consuming alcohol.
	And I think that makes your kid less likely to eventually become an alcoholic.
	And to my knowledge, the French have a lower rate of alcoholism than any other industrialized nation.
	And they routinely serve wine to their children at dinner.
	So there seems to be some logic to that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hello, darling.
	Oh, hello, darling.
	You finally got me.
	How are you, sweethearts?
	What can we do for you?
	Oh, fantastic.
	Kate, this is your cousin Blake here at Turk Favorite Moon.
	I've been waiting for your call.
	Oh, fantastic.
	I've been trying to call using my Skype line on my new headset.
	Apparently not working.
	Well, we hear you just fine.
	What are you calling from now?
	Were you calling with the username starting with the name Kyle?
	Yes.
	Okay, well, we were hearing background noise.
	I eventually just blocked you because I thought you were fucking with us.
	No, I had no idea what was going on.
	I had my headset set up, was listening to it through my TV here, and had my headset set up as a communication device, and it didn't work at all.
	I was super confused.
	Were you plugged into the toaster at all?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, there's a problem right there.
	I'm not buying it, and I will ask that you not prank our show, sir.
	I guarantee I'm not pranking your show.
	You know, kind of new to Bellgab, not new to Art Bell.
	What's your Bellgab user ID?
	Love the show.
	It's Turd Phase of Moon.
	Turd Phase of Moon?
	Yeah.
	Your avatar is an astronaut on the moon with a toilet.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That is correct.
	The third phase of moon because, you know, I'm not a huge fan of their third phase of moon, guys.
	But that's neither here nor there.
	We're just kind of working on a thing with YouTube, with my son, and, you know, just kind of things we've been working on because they do a lot of gags.
	You know, they're not totally legit, and it kind of bothers me, you know, and the whole way of everything Art talking about, you know, with Dr. Greer and that whole movement.
	And I just think that they kind of back it up.
	It just doesn't work out.
	Their stuff is illegit.
	It's illegit.
	I'm not a huge fan.
	But either way, you know, what I really wanted to call and ask is, you know, how many episodes do you think we can get into Midnight in the Desert and have J.C. Webster call in?
	Well, I think the more interesting question is, do you believe J.C. Webster is a real guy or a guy playing a character?
	Or do you believe maybe at one point in time he was a real guy and suddenly it became a character?
	You know, that's a fantastic question.
	I thought the exact same thing.
	You know, maybe he called in once and it was a real guy, and then from there, you know, it kind of blossomed into this thing.
	But, you know, I kind of think that the whole JC Webster and with art and the way he does work, I like to think all of it is real.
	But I do not doubt that there's multiple, that there's multiple J.C. Websters that people have been calling pretending to be.
	I would like to see a vocal analysis.
	I would like to see a voice analysis through the years of the various iterations of J.C. Webster and see if there's any truth to that.
	You're right.
	I would agree.
	I would agree.
	I would like some solid evidence and to know if he's real or not.
	Well, I'm not going to sleep tonight until we have an answer to this.
	I know.
	I might have the same problem.
	Our silly white people problems.
	I need to know if J.C. Webster is...
	I need to know if that guy's real.
	I mean, I know there's Bible something out there, but I mean, come on.
	Do you think if he were not real and if Art knew that to be the case, do you think Art would reveal that or he would just sort of roll at the gag?
	I think he would just roll it.
	Well, it's art, but I think he would half reveal it and half roll with it.
	You know, I think he would kind of meet in the middle.
	You know, like, hey, you know, this kind of gag, but, you know, this was real and it was funny.
	And yeah, I think he'd go with it.
	Just like with his revelations with the Area 51 caller on Dark Matter Network.
	Well, I'm pretty sure that the Area 51 caller himself came out at some point.
	Or no, no, no, no.
	Well, when you say Area 51 caller, I'm not sure if you're talking about the guy who said that.
	The guy whose voice was used in a tool song, the guy who said that they're following him and he was crying, or if you're talking about the pilot, but the guy who called and said that he was an Area 51 employee and that they were following him and he was bawling on the phone, that guy came out later and admitted that it was a hoax, but I'm not aware that the airplane guy ever did so.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	How are you?
	I don't know.
	How are you?
	I don't know who this is.
	This is the general.
	Okay.
	My God, that was such a good impression.
	That was such a good impression that I was certain this was Norrie.
	But then again, he's going to be on the air, what, in an hour?
	I mean, surely he wouldn't be calling us at this time.
	I don't know.
	He waits for the last two minutes to call.
	This would be the general, otherwise known as Eric Daw, the host of the Fred Files.
	Very good show.
	It's an amazing show.
	So how are you doing tonight, the general?
	What's up?
	How are you doing, sir?
	Good.
	I'm listening to you guys talk about JC Webster.
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	It occurred to me that his catchphrase, how dare you, and George Norrie's catchphrase, how are you?
	Oh, my.
	They're very similar.
	They're only one letter apart.
	I hate it when callers call in and instantly become more brilliant than the hosts.
	That's not how it's supposed to work.
	Is it a coincidence?
	I don't think so.
	There are no coincidences, as we've learned from Nori himself.
	Well, you know, that was funny.
	LOL.
	Art's been over this.
	Eddie, these are great.
	I like all the new drops.
	I hated the old ones.
	Art's been over this, and they're all real.
	JC is real.
	The guy that flew plane over Area 51, he's real.
	As far as we know, we don't have any evidence to the contrary, but the crying Area 51 employee, he called himself out.
	He called in and said, yeah, that guy, that was me.
	And he even re-delivered the impression of himself.
	He did.
	He definitely did.
	Yeah, you can find it on YouTube.
	He did.
	But all the other interesting callers over the years, they're all real as far as we know.
	And I bet if JC was found out to not be real, Art would not go along with the gag.
	He would say, oh, wait a minute, you've been joshing this entire time.
	You're off the air, sir.
	I don't know.
	I mean, what would be the harm in letting it fly?
	I mean, it's a little window of happiness for all of us.
	Fly like that.
	Yeah, that's about where I'm at with it.
	You know, I've just decided that, you know, I'm not really going to worry about is JC Webster real or was the airplane caller flying into Area 51?
	Was that real?
	Or was it, you know, there was a time where I just kind of was obsessed about, you know, what on the Art Bell show, what on Coast to Coast is real and what isn't real.
	And anymore, I just want to listen to it and enjoy myself and enjoy the stories.
	That's all.
	Well, when Art does that show, he leaves it up for to you to decide.
	That's right.
	You have to decide.
	I don't believe that Art has ever set anything up.
	He emphatically denies ever setting anything up intentionally.
	And I absolutely believe him when he says that.
	Yeah, I have to fall on that side with you as well.
	That just doesn't.
	I don't know.
	That just doesn't seem like his style.
	Because Art's not the kind of guy who suffers fools easily.
	And people like him, they're just not that type to set things up like that.
	I just.
	But there is a part of me that thinks that if Art found out that JC was a character, a prank, I'm not sure he would come out.
	I mean, because what would be the harm?
	I mean, it's so ridiculous.
	I mean, the caller himself is so absurd that that in itself should illustrate to you that there's something askew here.
	So why not just let it roll?
	I mean, it's a little fun for everybody.
	Let's just let it come.
	There have been so many things that that guy has said that have just caused me to lose my shite laughing.
	Lesbian Tipperware party?
	Yeah, why interfere with that?
	I mean, really, let's just have our little window of fun and let it go.
	If Fort Rock is real, then JC Webster is real.
	You know what I mean?
	Fort Rock is real.
	Fort Rock is real.
	He absolutely is.
	And as evidence of that, I would submit to you a podcast appearance that he made where he was discussing, what was it, Coven Picnics?
	Yes.
	Wiccan Coven Picnic.
	Yes.
	Barbecued.
	Yes.
	Which podcast was this?
	You need to search for Douglas Stingley, and you're going to find, well, let me see.
	I wonder if that audio is still there.
	It's got to be.
	Oh, I thought you meant that he called on a train wreck show or a spec sheet or something.
	I wish he would call into the Gabcast.
	I would love it.
	No, I've been dying for that.
	And MV, while you're searching for that, can I ask, can I request from you to please take down that little icon of his face?
	Oh, that's here to stay.
	My browser?
	That's here to stay, buddy.
	I have to look at him every single day.
	That's here to stay, pal.
	Well, I think it was Popple.
	Was it Popple?
	That actually revealed.
	That's not just a picture of Fort Rock up there.
	It's a little miniature spy cam, and he's watching jazz.
	That's what's actually going on.
	Spy cam or not, it's really unsettling when trying to masturbate.
	Well, he's watching us.
	See, I deliberately stare at that while masturbating.
	So we're all different as people.
	We all have our wants and differences.
	Whatever.
	We can't all be the same.
	It takes all sorts.
	You know, I had a mildly disturbing experience the other day.
	I had a customer, and I was repairing his guitar, right?
	And as he's picking up his guitar, he mentions to me, hey, by the way, I've been listening to the Gabcast.
	What?
	Yeah, and you could have knocked me over.
	But, you know, worlds are colliding.
	I thought you were going to tell me that he revealed to you the guitar you had just repaired was in some way involved in masturbation.
	I was so sure that's where you were going.
	But what you ended up saying was where your mind is.
	Well, and it made me wonder if that happens to you.
	I mean, MV, your name is way out there more than mine is as associated with Bail Gab and the Gabcast.
	Do you work on people's computers and then they maybe flip in a Fort Rock reference or talk to you about the forum?
	How often does that happen to you?
	Well, I'm very careful to make sure that worlds are adequately partitioned.
	Well, good luck with that because I thought that I was doing that too, but apparently.
	How did this guy know about the Gabcast?
	Because he listens to the friend file.
	Okay, well, that's your mistake.
	See?
	You can't be telling your customers you're doing this show.
	You can't totally leave it.
	It's the whole boring.
	Wouldn't that be hilarious?
	I mean, you're working in a guitar repair shop and you can't tell your customers that you do a radio show about guitar repair just because the separation of worlds must be maintained.
	Yeah, there's a flaw in that theory.
	I'm sorry.
	I used to tell customers occasionally, like if I felt like I had a really good rapport with a customer, I would tell them what it is that I'm doing.
	You know, I would tell them that I have a podcast.
	The only one I would tell them about was the train wreck show that Evelyn and I were doing together.
	At that time, the spec sheet didn't exist.
	And I would never tell somebody about the Gabcast because the first thing they're going to say is, what is that?
	And then try and explain that to somebody.
	You're not possibly going to explain that to somebody.
	I'm sure you've had customers that have Googled your name or have said, well, who was that guy that fixed my computer?
	Let me Google his name.
	Let's see, Michael VanDeeven.
	And there you are, right?
	There are a lot of Van Devens in this area.
	One of whom is a Michael Van Devon who ran for some, I think he ran to be the congressional representative in this district.
	Did he get into office?
	No, he was running as a libertarian.
	You don't get elected to anything in this area being a libertarian.
	One of my customers is from Cape, and I asked him if he knew you actually, and he said no, but the principal of my high school was named Van Devon.
	Yeah, there's my family used to be pretty powerful in this area.
	We had the Van Devon store.
	It was like, if you went shopping in Cape Girardo, Missouri, my family got your money.
	And that continued until 1968.
	And then, you know, everything, that's just a different world then versus now.
	It's in your blood.
	I mean, look at the empire you've built.
	Well, it is, it is, it is impressive.
	It's quite impressive, sir.
	All right.
	Well, I have to go home.
	And I'm sure that the rest of you would also like to call it a night, I would imagine, at this point.
	Someone in the chat room, even asking if Redacted fell asleep.
	No, I'm just letting him be talk.
	How can you?
	Well, what's that supposed to mean?
	My goodness.
	No, I want to hear what you have to say.
	Okay.
	Well, I think that's it.
	It's been a pleasure.
	I want to thank everybody who's been listening to the show live.
	I'd like to thank the three of you for being here tonight.
	Thank you.
	It certainly has been a hoop.
	Thank you for sticking by me as I cleaned up my spilled jack and coke.
	That was an ordeal.
	Oh, my God.
	That was wow.
	Oh, I think it's required for the gab cast.
	I think that had to happen.
	You know, I'm surprised it never has happened.
	That's one of those things that I would just in amazement remark to myself about.
	Every time I'm in here with food or drink, I cannot believe nothing has ever been spilled.
	And that shows I got too lackadaisical.
	I was just, I was so cocksure just walking here, strutting in here with my Coke and my Jack and Coke.
	Nothing could happen.
	Well, something did happen.
	Thank God nothing terrible got.
	I mean, spilling Coke is the worst because of the sugar content.
	So once it dries, you've still got issues, you know?
	At least with Diet Coke, there's no sugar to be sticky after everything dries up.
	My God.
	Well, nobody got hurt.
	That's what you're saying.
	Leave a lot of sticky messes everywhere I go.
	It's a horrible habit of mine.
	That's the mental image that I have of you, so that fits.
	Well, mission accomplished.
	Did you feel that when you started to date her?
	All right.
	Speaking of sticky messes.
	Oh, I got the link there.
	You didn't need to explain that.
	Okay, guys.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Thanks for listening, everybody.
	And, well, download the show if you didn't catch it all.
	UFOShip.com.
	By the way, July 14th, I'm going to be interviewing, oh, God, what's his name?
	Michael Horn.
	That ought to be fun.
	I can't wait to do this.
	That's going to be a hoot.
	And I'm just, you know, taking time to make sure that I'm as prepared as I can be, I guess.
	I'm not going to put together a dissertation to throw at him or anything.
	That guy can talk a lot, so you just need to give him a couple questions and he can roll with it.
	Yeah, we'll see what happens.
	I will certainly be pleased to see those of you listening calling in when he's on the show.
	That'll be helpful.
	Anyway, that's it.
	You guys have a good night.
	We'll see you later.
	Bye.

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