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	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Call the show now at 623-242-CAST.
	That's 623-242-2278.
	Now shut up, sit down, and listen to the damn show.
	This is the Gabcast.
	Onin's here.
	Hi, Onin.
	How you doing, man?
	Oh, I'm pretty good.
	Get right up on that mic, by the way.
	You might want to just eat it.
	This is my $11 meds.
	Actually, yeah, you sound way crappier than you normally do.
	Jasmunda's here.
	Hey, buddy.
	Hey.
	Oh, boy, listen to you.
	You're all sexy and bassy.
	Redact is here.
	How you doing there, big star?
	Hello.
	Good evening.
	My bright shining star.
	Aw.
	Love you, sugar.
	You're my Jerry and the Pacemakers.
	That's very, very sweet.
	What's his name?
	Oh, my God.
	To my Brian Epstein.
	I'm Brian Epstein.
	You're Jerry and the Pacemakers.
	How about that?
	If you say so.
	Redacted's a big star.
	You know what?
	She's a big, bright, shining star.
	To quote Boogie Knights.
	That might curse the whole thing, man.
	Well, this is the Gabcast.
	It's a podcast about BellGab.com.
	And Bellgab.com is an Art Bell fan forum.
	That's where a whole bunch of people got together.
	Happen to be fans of the legendary Art Bell, a man who created so many memories for me growing up.
	I mean, I swear some of the most memorable moments from my youth are in some, in many ways, connected to Art Bell.
	It's really just something to behold.
	And I think that Art's one of these guys you can't really convince of how important he is to so many people.
	He would never believe you.
	He doesn't really realize how big a deal he is, does he?
	Yes, so much so that I consider my own father my second father and Art to be my first.
	Is that creepy?
	Well, last week I called my mom and dad up.
	I said, listen, it's been great.
	You've done a good job.
	But Art Bell, see ya.
	Should I, was that a bit, was that rash?
	I don't know.
	I'm just, I think on the fly, and then I analyze later.
	That's how I handle things.
	Maybe it was a little abrupt, but potent.
	Potent indeed.
	Yes, potent.
	Somehow, I think your parents understand.
	Oh, they understand.
	It's Art Bell.
	That summarized it.
	I just simply said, I looked them dead in the eye.
	I stared deeply into their souls.
	Art Bell, two syllables, two words, point made.
	Move along.
	Effective.
	Well, dropped 50 bucks on one of his books and had to explain it to my wife.
	Did you really?
	Was it the Art of Talk?
	Yeah.
	That's not a cheap item to acquire.
	I purchased a copy of The Art of Talk in audio cassette form off of eBay maybe two years ago.
	I think I paid about 40 bucks for it, which I thought was way more than one would expect to pay.
	Imagine any number of different audiobooks in cassette form and what you would expect to pay for them.
	Not 40 bucks, dude.
	97 cents.
	Right.
	Free shipping, even.
	That's a top dollar right there.
	Well, that's what made this one.
	This book was actually $38, but they won $11 for shipping.
	I was like, damn.
	So anyway.
	Yeah.
	Well, so Redacted's a big star.
	Yeah, sure.
	Nothing's happened yet, you guys.
	My God, the phone has just been blowing up even during my karaoke abomination that was playing between shows.
	It was blowing up.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, how are you?
	This is Dr. Jay, Art Bell's producer.
	Oh, Dr. Jay.
	Stop it, you silly goose.
	This isn't Dr. J. Is it really?
	How are you doing tonight?
	Is it really Dr. J?
	I've never heard your voice.
	I mean, I have heard your voice, sir.
	I've heard your show, and it sounds oddly just like you.
	You could be calling from the Missouri State Correctional Facility on a payphone.
	I would have no idea.
	I'd be like, well, welcome, Dr. J. What can we do for you?
	If I did call from there, you would have had to answer and collect.
	So that's why you know.
	There are two words.
	I am calling to actually talk about what's been going around lately, the mystery in the desert, so I can confirm what actually happened.
	About three and a half months ago or so, when I first got the job and it was known that I was going to be producing for Art Bell, the organizers for Contact in the Desert reached out to me and said, hey, can we get Art Bell there?
	And I know he doesn't really quite do events, so I briefly told him and he said, no, thanks.
	And they kept pursuing on it, saying how big of an audience they do have, because it is a large event, and they do have a lot of people that go on their Facebook page and everywhere else, and they do have a lot of promotion.
	So they kept convincing how it'd be a fantastic idea to boost his promotion prior to coming on the show.
	So literally, it took me two and a half months to finally convince Art to do this.
	And I didn't want to get, couldn't get much of a commitment out of him.
	Came back and said, well, I can do five minutes with him audio on Skype.
	If anything goes beyond that dynamically and he's happy, awesome.
	But this is the only guarantee you got five minutes on Skype on audio.
	Then, they immediately jumped and had their webmaster create a page.
	And it looked great.
	Keith approved it.
	Art saw it.
	It had the web sites on either side of his name and his picture.
	Did it have a starry background with animated Jeff Sir?
	No, I wish it did.
	I really, really wish it did.
	Well, then after that was made, it was never posted publicly.
	It was just sort of a test site.
	So we kept calling and calling and figuring out when's this going to go up.
	Oh, it's going up today.
	It's going up tomorrow.
	And then finally, there was an urgent email sent that was CC'd to me sent from the organizers to the webmaster saying, please do not add Art Bell onto the lineup because we are having technical issues and all our Skype would have to be canceled, including Dr. Edgar Mitchell, who was appearing there on Skype video, as well as the Jimmy Church broadcast.
	Well, then, obviously, they said they would have to wait till after the holiday weekend, which would have been last week after Memorial Day, for their technicians to come in and fix it.
	And we'd have a more positive answer then, but preliminary, it was no.
	So Tuesday came and they said that something along the lines of, well, we're still having issues here and we don't want to announce art and then have the risk of it not working because then there's going to be a lot of backlash.
	And obviously, if they had to cancel Dr. Mitchell as well, there would be a lot of backlash since a lot of people were going for that lecture.
	Well, it was proposed that it wasn't even necessary to have the Wi-Fi fixed because I could have brought my own equipment and turned my phone into a hotspot.
	So, of course, Art was holding on hope that somewhere throughout the weekend, maybe he could be a special guest.
	The weekend came and went, and by the end of the weekend, everything that was meant to be on Skype happened.
	Dr. Mitchell did his two-hour Skype interview on audio and video.
	And, of course, Jimmy Church did his broadcast via Skype.
	So that obviously wasn't necessarily the reason.
	So today, after the event, we don't have a real answer other than that's what we were told was Wi-Fi issues.
	But I am here to confirm that he was booked.
	They went as far as making a bio page for him.
	And he was excited to do this because, as you know, he never does events.
	Never.
	This would have been better.
	It's very not Art Bell to do anything like this.
	But five minutes audio, that's pretty Art Bell to do that.
	And everybody who heard that he was coming was so happy to know that they were going to have a chance to hear him prior to his show and have some interaction, questions and answers between them and him.
	And then, of course, for him to finally get into it and then for it to be canceled, obviously I was stuck as being the bear of bad news.
	And I wish I had a real good answer to give him a why it couldn't happen.
	And of course, we're stuck to this day that it didn't.
	It didn't happen.
	The Wi-Fi went off without a problem on Sunday with Edgar Mitchell.
	The event is now officially over and Art Bell never appeared.
	That is such a lame excuse.
	Okay, so we all have our suspicions as to why this happened.
	Dr. J, are you at liberty to say what you think happened behind the scenes?
	And, you know, don't be so scared to say.
	Honestly, I, okay, it's just as Art posted it on his own Facebook page.
	If the person who was asking for him was such a super fan that she was willing to literally have him on for five minutes on audio where that wouldn't apply to anybody else.
	And then for him to do it and fulfill that and for her to jump for joy the moment she was found out that he said yes.
	And I have emails and text messages going back several months.
	Hey, what's the status?
	What's the status?
	Obviously, I feel that the moment it became known within the inner circle of other speakers and maybe hosts and anybody involved that he was going to appear, it may have created some sort of political issue.
	So obviously, I think there had to have been some pressure coming in from somewhere else, because the fact of just risking it solely off the Wi-Fi issue doesn't necessarily work, considering that there was other options, such as creating my own.
	Not only the fact that, but the fact that Jimmy Church came in and did his thing via Skype, so they can make that apparently ones and zeros can flow properly between Jimmy Church and the conference, but somehow the laws of physics cease to exist between Art Bell's home and perump and the convention.
	That's interesting.
	Yes yes, that that's right.
	That's right.
	And again, it's sad because there were so many fans there when I was handing out the flyers that were saying, and when I told them that he was canceled, that were really disappointed to know that he could have been there and that everything was capable of having him there and yet he wasn't.
	So obviously, by him not being there, I think, sort of created more of a controversy than had he been able to do his little Q ⁇ A with the audience.
	Well, Dr. J, obviously this conference was amateur Hour.
	You don't need these people.
	Art doesn't need these people.
	Look at how many people are listening to this dopey little obscure podcast right now.
	190 people are tuned in at this very second.
	And that's not because of me or anyone hosting this show.
	It's because of the Art Bell universe.
	And that is indicative of the fact that art doesn't need these people.
	And people are making their associations.
	They are planting their flags in the ground to assert various allegiances.
	And I think as art starts this thing in July and it becomes more and more evident what a success it's going to be, people are going to regret some of the allegiances they've chosen to make.
	I agree.
	And it absolutely will be a success because everything's in place from the gear, from the equipment, from guests, everything is in place to have a success.
	And as everybody knows who's listening to this and who writes on Bellgap, this is the godfather of paranormal talk radio.
	Like you said at the beginning of the show, some of your best memories as a youth are because of art.
	So you're absolutely right.
	The moment that July 20th comes, after that first week, after the second week, once people realize he's here to stay, he's back.
	He's back in his game.
	I think things will change a little bit.
	So Dr. J. Dr. J, tell me a little bit about you because I wasn't familiar at all with you.
	No offense intended at all.
	I just wasn't familiar with you until it was announced that you were going to be working with art.
	I actually do my own show on Dark Matter Radio Network, and it's Tuesdays and Thursdays at the moment.
	It used to be three days, but at the moment it's back to two days.
	And it is 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. Pacific.
	Obviously, that's 10 to midnight Eastern.
	And it's primarily on UFOs, paranormals, and sometimes I'll pick up some other aspects.
	Maybe I'll do a little science and technology.
	Anything that I think the people will enjoy.
	And that's sort of how I ended up, I guess, here per se, is because a lot of the guests that I book have been on Art's show in the past.
	And I guess that's where the relationship sort of spawned with Keith and then just ended up where it is today.
	Well, what's your history prior to that?
	I mean, how were you plugged into the Art Bell universe prior to Dark Matter Radio Network?
	Well, I've been interested in ufology and everything else paranormal since as long as I could remember, even before I even knew the word alien or extraterrestrial, I just knew we were being visited.
	And then obviously, yeah, yeah.
	Man, I'm on the fence there, buddy.
	I got to tell you.
	I think I just knew without a doubt there's no way with all those stars out there that there can't be something else there.
	Well, I agree there.
	It's just the visitation aspect I have a little trouble with.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You know, and I agree with you there, and this is exactly why we continually have to have these guests and witnesses and researchers on, because I think a lot of what people do see is really military vehicles, but I think there is something out there at the same time that defies physics.
	Now, is it something that's organic?
	That's not necessarily a ship from somewhere else.
	I don't know.
	All I do know is something is going on.
	A lot of people are seeing it, and it makes it piques my curiosity.
	If even one is an actual visitor from somewhere else, then that's groundbreaking.
	It is.
	Exactly.
	That's right.
	But what if they're all bullcrap?
	I think there has to be life out there.
	There's a great BBC documentary called Space hosted by Sam Neal.
	I don't know if anybody hosting tonight has seen that or Dr. J, if you yourself, or anybody in the show.
	Surely someone hearing my voice right now has seen this.
	It's an amazing six-part documentary by the BBC, and it covers all sorts of different aspects of space.
	black holes the creation of solar systems the creation of stars it's very it's it's it actually changed my outlook on the universe in which we live and made me feel like a very small i used to have this big i'm a human being God put me here.
	You know, I used to have that approach to viewing the universe by which I'm surrounded.
	And after watching this BBC space documentary, it actually reshaped the way I perceive the universe around me.
	Think about this.
	Imagine, and this is a quote from essentially a quote from this BBC documentary.
	Imagine you're on a beach, you scoop up a handful of sand.
	Imagine how many grains of sand are in your hand at that moment.
	100,000, maybe 200,000, depending on the grains of sand.
	Then imagine, and that's a huge number.
	I mean, we throw numbers around like that, 100,000, 200,000.
	But the human mind, even with a number as small as 100 or 200,000, doesn't really wrap itself around the concept of how big a number that actually is.
	It's a huge number.
	Now imagine how many grains of sand are on that entire beach.
	It's incalculable.
	It's unfathomable.
	It's a huge number.
	The word huge is just a silly joke to even apply to this.
	Right.
	Now imagine how many grains of sand exist on planet Earth.
	Multiply that number by 1 million, and that is the number of stars that science estimates exist in the universe.
	And that's probably a conservative estimate.
	I don't know that there could even be an estimate considering what we would, in some instances, perceive to be the infinite nature of the universe.
	Now, of all of those stars, many of them have planets revolving around them.
	I can't imagine just through the sheer math of things that there's not life out there.
	There has to be.
	Just the numbers game there mandates that there's life out there.
	It's just the visitation thing, man.
	I really have a hard time believing that we're being visited.
	I think it takes, is it, what is it, four years at light speed to reach the nearest star?
	I thought it was.
	Let alone the closest star that actually has orbiting planets.
	And I'm glad you brought up the planets because for as many stars are out there, the ones that we have found that have planets revolving around it are in some sort of orbit is not one-to-one ratio.
	I mean, you're talking five planets to one star, 60 planets to one star.
	So when you talk about this number of stars out there in our galaxy, and if you want to go one step further in all the galaxies combined in this universe, then that number is beyond unthinkable.
	I don't think we could probably draw the number and end it before it hits the coast to coast, literally from California to, you know, Florida, whatever it be.
	And then when you multiply it with the amount of those planets, then you're stuck with some even bigger number that you just have to consider that there's no possible way.
	It'd be the height of human arrogance to think that we are the one and almighty ones on that.
	And like you said, we definitely need to know much more so we can prove that the visitation factor one way or another.
	And I think that's where the debate's going to continue to go.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	I think the ego kind of plays in there on the other side of this argument is that what's really so special about this planet that if you take the infinitesimal smallness of our planet compared to the universe, what would make us stand out that somebody millions of light years away would say, hey, that's where we need to go.
	I don't think we're alone in the aspect that we're the only place that there's life, but I think we're alone in the aspect that anybody's coming here to visit us.
	So one thing we also have to remember is just because we can't do something now doesn't mean we won't figure out a way later.
	I mean, 150 years ago, talking about a man on the moon or even flying the way a bird does, you know, was science fiction, but now it's just something standard.
	Yeah, but at some point, the fantastical remains the fantastical.
	If you just look at this from a logistical standpoint, and let's say you find 20 million civilizations that have technology advanced enough that they could be anywhere they wanted to be, still the odds of them picking us out would be so small that, as I said, we're not alone, but we're kind of alone.
	So what you're saying is that Earth is the Australia of the galaxy.
	Well, I don't know that I'd say it that badly, but yeah, kind of.
	I've heard the same thing, actually.
	I've heard the same thing along the lines of that, that we're not really clustered in such a way that we would be if there was traffic going around from place to place, planet to planet, star system to star system.
	Ours would be more scarce in the sense of visitation because what is it so much that we have to offer that wouldn't be in the routes of other inhabited planets.
	But again, this goes down to the fact that can we confirm where this information is coming from is accurate.
	So it always comes down to that fundamental question.
	What are our sources and what are the sources saying and can we affirm it or deny it?
	Our solar system really is on the edge of the galaxy on a spiral arm just kind of hanging out on the edge.
	So, you know, what's inside the galaxy is incalculable.
	We don't really know what's going on on the other side of it.
	And that's just our galaxy alone.
	There's millions upon millions of other galaxies throughout the whole universe.
	It's just so incalculable.
	Clouds of galaxies.
	Clouds of them.
	And here's the thing, though.
	Yeah, you have to go through a lot of BS stories to find that one gem, that one diamond of a story that actually is true, to find that one where maybe there really was a visitation.
	And it seems like the whole fun of it is sifting through all the BS stories to get to that one good one.
	You know, there's nothing wrong with visiting the fantastic.
	I think that's kind of what makes this whole thing fun is not so much what is, but what could be.
	And I'm all about that.
	In the chat room, let's see.
	Let me go back up.
	First of all, Jay Image says, I was reading and not paying attention to MV.
	That smarts, sir.
	That smarts.
	That cut right to the bone, didn't it?
	LaserJock says, MV, all the sands on the earth equals the number of stars in our galaxy, not the universe.
	I think you're, well, first of all, it's all the sands on Earth times 1 million.
	And I do believe it was universe, not galaxy, but if it's galaxy, it makes it all the more impressive.
	And Bateman says there's no way any advanced civilizations are going to be using conventional craft.
	Of course not.
	But still, we have to acknowledge the speed of light.
	Traveling at the speed of light, you're still going to wait four years to get to the nearest star.
	It's either four or eight.
	One of those, I got that mixed up.
	Dr. J, can we take a call?
	How about that?
	Let's get somebody on the line here.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hello.
	You're on the air.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Whoever this is calling, you have been calling since 10 minutes before the show, and you have literally called me 15 times, and now you're on the air and you're not speaking.
	I can't believe this.
	Stage fraud.
	That's unbelievable.
	And they hang up.
	I swear to you, I'm not exact.
	That person was calling me 10 minutes before the show.
	I kept hanging up, hanging up, hanging up, hanging up.
	Finally, I said, okay, enough already.
	And I pushed the green button and I let them sit there while Dr. J was talking.
	And I thought, okay, I'll bring this person in.
	And then they don't speak.
	So, Dr. J. Go ahead, sir.
	Is that the same area code as mine?
	No.
	Okay.
	Otherwise, I wouldn't say we should.
	Are you being stalked, sir?
	Are there legal things happening?
	Are there things we should discuss?
	Are there safety precautions that need to be taken?
	I would have known if it was that that's all.
	That's all I was going to refer to.
	And I think everybody out there listening probably knows what I'm referring to.
	Well, Dr. J, I'm really happy to have had an opportunity to speak to you tonight.
	And I think that you are in the midst of something amazing that's about to happen.
	I don't even know if you realize how amazing the things you're surrounded by are at this moment.
	Maybe because you wake up every day.
	Yeah, I'm Art Bell's producer.
	Yeah, I'm the producer for Midnight in the Desert.
	You sort of get used to that and fail to realize the amazing just nature of things that are happening right now.
	I view it as almost an historical moment.
	Oh, I feel it, believe me, every single day.
	But my goal is not so much, or I don't wake up and realize what position I put in.
	I wake up with the goal of how can we take what's been done in the past and make it so it's just as good and better and make it as easy and as keep art as happy in the process as prior to what happened before.
	So that's what I wake up with.
	And yes, believe me, I fully understand The gravity of this situation on so many levels because the amount of people that go on to Bell Gab daily, the amount of people that I hear that say they have not heard a single paranormal talk show except for Art Bell, even though he's gone off air, so they're just hearing rebroadcasts.
	That's when I realize how big of an impact he's made to so many people and how much bigger of an impact he will be making to everybody when he comes back July 20th.
	There's something intangible about Art's approach to broadcasting, isn't there?
	I mean, I have said it again and again and again.
	I do not really care to hear anybody discussing this genre but Art Bell.
	And for anybody who's offended by that, I'm sorry, but that's just the fact of the matter.
	It's just, there's something about art that you can't quite quantify, but he's so interesting to listen to.
	And there were so many subjects that I probably never would have had any direct and meaningful exposure to, but for the fact that he was the guy hosting the show where people were talking about it.
	It was Art Bell first that was the attraction, the subject matter secondary.
	I concur in every possible way.
	It is his style.
	It is ability to think on his feet, to answer cold calls and take cold questions.
	It is all of the above that literally stands them apart from everybody else.
	Well, sir, you've just concluded a conversation with an intoxicated man.
	I hope it was okay for you.
	It was.
	Thank you for having me on.
	Dr. Jay, before you go, Dr. Jay, I just have a quick question for you.
	Presumably, you've been booking guests for Art's new show, and you don't have to mention any names, but have you heard any anecdotes from the people you're booking, if they've had any pressure from other sources not to appear on the show?
	I can't really say that, but I could say one thing.
	I guess I could say this publicly is two of the guests that have already been booked have already written and said that someone else has tried to grab them because I made a sort of covenant for them saying, if you want to be back when he returns, as opposed to somewhere later down the line, please don't accept any other bookings.
	And so they haven't.
	So in that sense, no one's pressured not to do it, but these people are so loyal to art that they were actually are going to save their next lecture per se or interview to be with Art Bell.
	That's how high they hold him in regard.
	And I think that's fantastic.
	Great.
	It really is.
	That is great.
	And by the way, Dr. J, have you been out to Art's house yet?
	If you have been, did you have dinner there?
	And if so, what did you eat?
	I have not been out there.
	No, I'm hoping he's feeling up for playing some racquetball sometime.
	That's the plan.
	But no, I have not been out to Nevada to see him or have dinner.
	Well, I was told by Art when he called into the GabCast that Aaron makes a mean frozen pizza.
	So you just enjoyed it.
	I remember that.
	I remember that.
	Do you guys have any questions for Dr. J before we let him go?
	I heard Dr. J say that he has a lot of guests lined up already, and I just wanted to say good job.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I've been working at this for the last couple months, just lining all the ducks in the row.
	Obviously, you know, it's a little early before some of them are solidified, but just wanted to make everyone aware that to start getting ready, and it's been sort of working out great.
	Really great, I should say.
	By the way, we have a caller on the line, and before I let you go, Dr. J, caller, did you want to speak to Dr. J?
	Well, not particularly.
	Well, that's only slightly insulting.
	I wouldn't want to pee in his lemonade.
	Okay, well, Dr. J, thank you for calling in.
	We really appreciate you taking the time to acknowledge this pathetic little podcast.
	Thank you.
	It's truly pathetic.
	It's a great thing.
	It's awful, and you shouldn't have soiled yourself by calling.
	And you do a fantastic job with the show and bellgap.com, so my hat's off to you.
	Well, thank you, sir.
	You're too kind.
	Thank you.
	Your reputation may now be in question, though, Dr. Che, since you've called this show.
	It has been sullied.
	Hi, Caller.
	What can we do for you?
	Thank you for calling.
	Who's this?
	Well, this is Rob from Iowa.
	Well, hi, Rob, from Iowa.
	I hate your state, by the way.
	I've been there multiple times.
	It's just flat, stupid cornfields.
	And that city of Des Moines that you all point to and probably think is some sort of a highfalutin weekend trip.
	It sucks.
	Yeah, it's kind of the armpit of Iowa.
	It really is.
	I'm glad.
	Okay, well, you know what?
	We all hate where we're from, so you agree.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Sure.
	Why do you guys keep drinking the Art Bell Kool-Aid?
	Who is everybody going to just say?
	Define Art Bell Kool-Aid.
	It's a hard bell Kool-Aid, sir.
	It tastes very nice.
	Art can do no wrong.
	Art is the most powerful.
	I have never believed that art can do no wrong.
	I don't know anybody.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Let's get specific.
	I don't know anyone hosting this show who thinks Art Bell can do no wrong.
	I have to agree with your non-agreement.
	Art Bell's a human being.
	He wakes up in the morning.
	I'm sure he takes a pee, just like the rest of us.
	He washes his sheets once a week.
	He vacuums.
	He sets his dryer on fire.
	He blows up fire extinguishers by not following the warning labels.
	Who do we now?
	Let's be honest.
	Who ain't cleaned that mess all up.
	It probably wasn't Art.
	I have volunteered to go to Art's house multiple times and help him with the mundane daily tasks of life he never accepts.
	Yeah, that's drinking the Kool-Aid, man.
	That's drinking the Kool-Aid.
	Well, we all have our definitions, sir.
	But seriously.
	If that were the case, let's say we did think that Art Bell did no wrong.
	What's the problem with that?
	I just think that when you put anybody up on that pedestal too high, at some point you'll be disappointed.
	Well, it's just easier to stop drinking the Kool-Aid ahead of time.
	I'm not making life decisions over this.
	It's just that I'm looking forward to a radio show.
	So I'm not quite sure.
	I'm not quite sure where we keep drinking the Kool-Aid when that radio show disappears in two weeks or three weeks or a month.
	Okay, let's say it lasts.
	Well, you know, how long could it drop dead tomorrow?
	I'm not quite sure what your point is.
	I mean, we all live on the rationalization that things are going to continue, but there's no validity to that.
	I love my wife, and I think I'm going to love her forever, but the actual experience is going to be that in 35 years, I'm not going to be here.
	So, nothing's permanent.
	I'm hoping Art Bell lasts a long time, but if he doesn't, well, I'll ride it till the horse dies.
	And when it stops, my life will continue or it won't.
	I'm not quite sure why you're picking this issue as I'm not going to dump the caller just because they're not expressing a popular opinion.
	Come on, people.
	I'm not asking anybody.
	No, some of the people in the chat room are.
	I'm not going to do that.
	No, no, let him say his.
	I just, I'm not quite sure.
	I don't want to get contentious, but it almost seems like you're looking at someone.
	A fellow's been down this road before, and you know, you put it, you put, maybe, uh, maybe the average Art Bell fan puts just a little bit more into Art Bell than, let's just say, you know, any other radio personality.
	There's some special about Art Bell and the Art Bell fan.
	I just stopped drinking the Art Bell Kool-Aid because I don't want to go down this road again for another terrible point.
	Okay, I want to stop you.
	I want to stop you right there.
	I'm going to ask a simple question.
	Okay.
	What brings you joy?
	What brings me joy?
	Yeah, what brings you joy?
	Family friends.
	Good times, good entertainment.
	That's a good answer.
	Okay, that's a great answer.
	So, you know, what brings us joy is great radio.
	Good times, great entertainment.
	As you just said yourself, sir.
	Where does Art Bell not meet those criteria?
	Okay, well, if he doesn't quit in two weeks, maybe he'll have to go.
	That's something I have no control over.
	I mean, what if I'm planning a six flags trip for next week and six flags as a company folds before I get to make the trip?
	I mean, I have to acknowledge the things that I like and enjoy in this universe and partake in them to the extent to which this universe allows me to do so.
	And if Art Bell quits in a week, hey, guess what?
	You know what?
	We got seven additional new Art Bell shows.
	Wonderful.
	It's a letdown, but it's only a letdown because I like Art Bell that much.
	Then that's one happy week we got to have that we didn't have before.
	Why are you bothered by our.
	Well, I guess that's the fundamental thing that I'm puzzled by here.
	Why are you bothered by our fandom?
	It's not that you guess this, maybe this started more in the chat room than necessarily with the people on the air.
	But the whole attitude of just, hey, art is so fantastic.
	Art is not that fantastic.
	And he can put on a good radio show if he chooses to go through with his plans this time.
	And see, I see your point, and we can agree to disagree.
	Well, it's not really a matter of agree to disagree.
	I mean, that's sort of a discussion ender to say that.
	It's more a matter of there's no harm in acknowledging what it is that you like.
	I like Art Bell.
	Guess what?
	He's coming back, and I'm happy about that.
	Doesn't mean that, you know, I'm ringing the guy's phone to try and give him a kidney.
	Somebody once said Jazz Bundy.
	Somebody once said to me that it's important to argue the truth and facts.
	And when it comes to matters of taste, it's foolish to argue them because we all have different likes and dislikes.
	And there's really no right or wrong about it.
	I mean, let's say Art Bell is a drunken slug and only does one show every six years.
	We're looking forward to that show.
	It's not whether we idolize him or not.
	We idolize his talent in this one area.
	And maybe we do get a bit hyperbolic about that, but it's so what?
	I mean, it's almost like you're taking umbrage with the fact that we like something that you don't.
	Or do you not?
	You're not going to completely agree.
	Or do you dislike Art Bell, sir?
	I don't dislike Art Bell.
	I believe Art Bell could probably interview a plate of dog poop and make it interesting.
	Well, then why are you puzzled by our fandom here then?
	I don't get that.
	Why is it puzzling to you?
	Maybe I'm more easily disappointed than you folks.
	Oh, no, sir.
	I own that time.
	I'm not looking forward to it.
	You want to know something?
	I'm not looking forward to another disappointment.
	Listen, when Art left SiriusXM, I did not listen to a single one of my archived Art Bell shows until probably two months ago.
	That's how much wind it kicked out of me.
	By the way, I'm moderately intoxicated at this point.
	And by the way, you people are assholes, my co-hosts, because here I am.
	I'm basically bathing in bourbon here.
	I'm just pouring it all over my naked body, just absorbing it through the skin.
	And I don't think either of you have had a sip of liquor this entire evening.
	We discussed this days in advance that this was going to be something of a drunk show.
	And I don't get the impression that anybody but me is drinking here.
	Oh, whatever.
	I'm glad you put your Dasani on ice.
	Wonderful.
	You know what I like about that, MV?
	Because it's just now you're realizing we're assholes.
	You know, it took a while.
	The revelation did come to me, though.
	But back onto what the caller was saying, I'm seeing this latest venture by Art as a bonus to everything else we've experienced from him.
	You know, I'm a big fan of his classic shows.
	I listen to them all the time.
	And Dark Matter and Midnight in the Desert are just bonuses to the whole experience.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	It's just a little fun.
	What's wrong with some fun?
	Well, I think there's sort of a I think that caller's attitude toward things is sort of a cool guy in the room attitude.
	You know, like, yeah, I'm going to poo-poo this.
	You know, this is the groupthink thing.
	Everyone is on board and happy and elated with what's coming.
	I'm going to be the cool guy in the room, and I'm not, listen, I understand why, here's the, I, I.
	I understand why somebody would say the things that guy just said.
	I understand why somebody would say, well, how do you know it's going to last more than two weeks there, you jizzbag?
	What are you thinking?
	I mean, I understand why somebody would say those things.
	What I don't understand is why somebody would be critical of my happiness that Art Bell is coming back.
	And that seemed to be what was his primary beef was just the happiness that all of us are sharing in.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	How dare you?
	How dare you be happy about something and hammered.
	I'll tell you what I'm upset.
	I'll tell you what I'm upset about.
	Here's something Art did that pissed me off.
	All right.
	You guys ready for this?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to unload this on you.
	Is everybody seated?
	Do you guys sit down while you do the show?
	Are you guys these people that think that you have to stand up to broadcast private?
	I follow the contract I was given.
	You're going to have to go peruse.
	Okay.
	Well, I'll tell you what Art Bell did that pissed me off.
	Okay.
	He shaved his mustache.
	Why'd he do that, Art?
	God, you're supposed to have a mustache.
	Art Bell without a mustache, there's something askew.
	It just doesn't sit well with me.
	Art, if you're listening to this, and I suspect you are, please, sir, regrow the mustache.
	It's not that you look bad without the mustache.
	You look perfectly wonderful.
	It's just that Art Bell with the mustache is the art bell I came to know.
	And that's the art bell I was.
	That's the art bell I would like to continue to know.
	Freeartbellsmustache.com.
	I purchased that domain 15 minutes.
	That's why I was playing my drunken karaoke recordings, Prayer.
	I was busy purchasing freeartbellsmustache.com.
	And soon the traffic will floweth.
	I'd like to make sure everybody goes there and pays a visit.
	We have all sorts of starry backgrounds and animated gifs that you can download.
	Ooh, do the stars like follow my mouse around the screen?
	Well, there's a lot of technology behind that.
	But this is a low-budget op.
	Do we have any more callers?
	You're getting mustaches and you aren't you just highfalutin.
	My God, how we've forgotten our roots.
	Don't we have a cavalcade of callers just waiting to be on our show?
	Hey, now, if Art made the posts that he made, you would not have this attitude, sir.
	Redacted, you know, I just we have to talk about redacted.
	You know, it's just surreal what's come to be for you.
	I mean, think back, Redacted, to your past sitting in your home, uh, just sucking on a fat spliff, listening to Art Bell.
	Did you ever imagine there's going to be a time when you would actually get to speak to Art Bell personally and conceivably wind up being on his show with him?
	I mean, is this not just Bizarro World?
	I, I, and I don't say that because I feel like you're in any way unworthy of that.
	I say that because that's just the mathematical odds.
	Well, I have to confess that I have thought about that many times.
	Um, I mean, you imagine how many people over the years have heard art and said, I should be sitting there doing a show with him.
	Oh, I think a couple of people that in our in our forum think that.
	Oh, there are some.
	Let me say, I've thought about it many times, but to have it actually land on me is a whole other situation.
	Um, so, of course, this is exactly what's supposed to be happening.
	I was talking to Redacted the other night, and I said, Listen, here's some unsolicited advice for you.
	Uh, when you're on with art, what you need to do is every time you're getting ready to speak, just under your breath, just mutter, don't screw this up.
	So, anyway, the stars are aligned properly, and that causes what sort of phenomenon to occur.
	And just every time you start to just right before you say, don't screw this up, yeah, so anyway, those aliens, they're really jacking things up for people, aren't they?
	I wish they'd stop visiting us.
	Uh, tired of all the story, the phony baloney stories.
	Sound advice, very, very sound advice.
	No, I mean, it's a big honor, and I just want to fulfill the role that he has in mind, make it a lot of fun, add to, um, and not do anything in any way to take away from his magic.
	What I think you should do is introduce a kazoo segment where you play the hits of Jefferson Airplane in Kazoo at the bottom of every hour.
	Thoughts?
	You can send that to producer at artbell.com.
	I think Dr. J would likely be on board.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Thank you for calling.
	Who's this?
	My name is Roberts.
	Roberts or Robert?
	Oh, Robert.
	Robert.
	Hi, Robert.
	Hi, how are you guys doing?
	Well, we're lovely.
	How are you?
	What's on your side?
	Well, what can we do for you, sir?
	Well, I've heard some YouTube of Art Bell in the past, and he's apparently from what he stated, he would really like to meet somebody from the future sometime.
	And you're from the future, you're purporting to be.
	No, I'm not.
	Oh, that's a boar fest.
	I thought you were about to lay something on us.
	What are you?
	I was going to ask you what year you were from.
	You got me all excited.
	Maybe it's from the past.
	I'm sorry about that, but I do have some rumors that I picked up while I was in the Air Force in the mid-70s about set the frame as I worked.
	About what?
	I picked up some rumors while I was in the Air Force in the mid-70s about a time traveler.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, please lay it on us.
	We'd like to hear.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, supposedly, this person arrived in what they referred to as an electromagnetically propelled aerospacecraft.
	An electromagnetically propelled aero spacecraft.
	Do you know the mechanism by which this works?
	I mean, electromagnetic.
	Yeah, okay.
	But I mean, electromagnetism has to have a polar opposite to work against.
	So how does that work?
	Well, if you check out YouTube with the new EM drive, you find out you don't actually use it the way you may be thinking.
	You use microwaves and lasers to induce a massive drive engine, which has electromagnetic properties, which is why they call it electromagnetic propulsion.
	This was developed about 10 years ago, and at first NASA said it was bunked, but just about three years ago, China actually decided to build a prototype, and it worked.
	And NASA has worked on it and tested it, and it appears to work.
	Now, where I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Does it use the Earth's gravity at all?
	No, the engine itself is shaped similar to a regular rocket engine, except it's sold off.
	And you induce high microwave radiation into the device with some in some way acts to produce a thrust on the vehicle without a mass drive, such as a chemical.
	Now, where does time travel come into play here?
	Well, this person supposedly came in on such a ship and apparently arrived in the early 1970s.
	Where did he come from?
	Sometime in the near future, I believe.
	Something else.
	Do you have a year?
	Did he come from a future that has already passed in real time?
	In our time?
	This person supposedly in the next year or two will be transported back in time to the early 1970s.
	Did you.
	He's alive now.
	Pardon me, you're breaking up a little bit.
	So the time traveler is alive now?
	Yes.
	And did you see blueprints of this engine design?
	You can see the engine design itself on YouTube.
	Looked up EM drive.
	Now, I'm not saying that this by itself was actually able to travel back in time.
	Oh, it was.
	It was.
	It sounds like it could.
	The EM drive that's been discussed.
	If you were to put a small nuclear reactor on board the ship, could possibly go up to 5 or 10% speed of light.
	They're talking about being able to travel from the Earth to the moon in four hours to Mars in 10 weeks and to the edge of our solar system in six months.
	Do you think it would protect humans from the radiation of space?
	I've seen some programs on science network where they're using simple foils to protect astronauts from radiation.
	Aluminum foil?
	No, this seems to be exotic foils.
	Well, I would just stick with aluminum.
	It's what I know.
	Yes.
	In a primitive standard, 10 feet of any material would protect you from radiation.
	Or roughly 8 inches of lead would do the same thing.
	And with today's technology on a science show, they've showed a woman working with NASA that has to produce foils about the thickness of aluminum foil, which they purported would protect you from radiation.
	So what you're telling us is this technology exists and no one's using it.
	This technology is in the middle stages of development.
	The engine design itself is 10 years old, but the NASA prototype is only about two years old.
	So when do you think we'll see prototypes roll out?
	When do you think we'll see actual tests of something like that in use?
	Well, the Chinese are working on it, and I don't think the United States and NASA want to be outpaced by them.
	When NASA first saw the designs, they were the first ones to receive the designs, and they thought it was a joke, they thought it was stupid, and pretty much told the guy he was an idiot.
	Then the Chinese came across the same plans and decided to try it, and it worked.
	It actually worked.
	So is the United States government currently employing these technologies, sir?
	I would say they were probably, according to the rumors that are heard in the 1970s, if true, this person took these technologies back to the early 1970s, and the United States government would have use of them by the early 1970s.
	So that means by now, can you imagine where this technology is at?
	I mean, we are just the civilians.
	We don't get to hear about the good stuff.
	Can you imagine the secrets about this technology that are being told to us?
	It's pretty interesting.
	Oh, yeah.
	If you can get to the moon in four hours, and if you can get to Mars in 10 weeks or less, and you have to target Mars to be where it's going to be at when you get there, if allowing 10 weeks, they're allowing for a 90-day stay on Mars before having to return to Earth on a return 10-week journey.
	So you would be talking about possibly secret bases on Man and Mars with this technology.
	Well, when you said secret bases on the moon, that's where suddenly, in my mind, this whole thing had a lot of credibility.
	I'm just hoping the guy isn't coming back to see his grandfather.
	Well, clearly there are other means of propulsion that we have yet to discover and that our government is employing that we are unaware of.
	I think if we could understand the technologies available to our federal government that we are entirely unapprised of, we would just completely be astonished.
	There are things happening at Grim Lake, the likes of which none of us can even begin to conceive of.
	Mere civilians can never know.
	Mere mortal.
	I haven't figured out peanut butter yet, so there's that.
	Okay, you guys, I'm going to go ahead and drop some news on you that's probably going to have an adverse effect on our listener count, okay?
	Done.
	Before I do that, I want to bring in Chameleon 808 and see what he has to say, though.
	Hi, Chameleon.
	Hey, how you guys doing?
	Look, I want to get to the real thing here, and that's what we were talking about last night, and that's the Art Bell pinball machine.
	So this is a concern.
	Yes, yes.
	Eight hours.
	And I was just wondering what, you know, I think once you get to a certain station in life, like The Simpsons or Freddy Krueger, you get a pinball machine made about you.
	Yeah.
	You have to get it.
	And I think there's plenty of drama and shit in Art's life now that it could facilitate a whole pinball machine.
	So I was wondering, my contribution, of course, was the Mel's hole in between the flippers that you're obviously going to lose the ball in unless you get the haunted dog bonus that lets it back out.
	So I was just wondering what you guys had in the way of an art building machine.
	I've got lots of ideas.
	Superblue lips.
	I think that would be a good part of the game.
	It has to have a UFO somewhere in it, which sucks up the balls and then eventually releases about five or six at a time.
	You know, when you've got multi-ball mode, that definitely has to happen.
	Okay, and also, this wasn't my idea.
	This was, I can't remember his name, but he said that we should get the guy who did the airbrush art for Art's book cover to do the side cabinet panel art.
	You just read my mind.
	Yes.
	So, anyway, I'm not trolling with this.
	I'm serious.
	I actually know a programmer and a couple vendors that can make this thing happen.
	So what started as probably a joke, I'm actually seriously throwing Lear at and probably going to get made.
	I don't care if it sits in Art's den unused for the rest of my life.
	I want to see this happen.
	So there has to be a spot where the ball goes over and then you get an EVP played for you.
	Nice touch.
	Is there a market anymore for the future?
	And I didn't know about that much of that.
	I think that when you lose the ball, it ought to spray pizza punch in your GDIs.
	I was going to say, should there be like a pizza roll or an Area 51 thing where the balls go in and they just don't come back out?
	Or, you know, some section.
	In Burns ball.
	Shot down.
	Inverns and that's Nancy Burns, by the way, in the chat room wants to know why we have such a delay.
	It's only about 15 seconds.
	So I don't know why that observation was made.
	That's why I don't read the chat.
	Once you guys pick up the thing, I just minimize it.
	You know, that's really what I as a host ought to do.
	I don't know why I don't.
	Nothing against Nancy.
	I just, as a host, most of the people in the chat room, complete animals, degenerates.
	I'm also helping, you know, pad time to get George more prep time to call, hopefully.
	Well, it's interesting you should mention that.
	I'm going to go over some messages that have been exchanged between George Nori and myself.
	Here we go.
	MV, I'm sorry, but I'm declining your invitation to appear on your gab.
	He says your gab cast.
	Judging by many of the comments of those who plan to quote-unquote call in, he uses quotes, it's just not worth my efforts.
	Thanks.
	I hope you understand.
	And I replied, oh, come on.
	I'll control the animals.
	And he reversed.
	We'll be civil, George.
	And he replied, you can't, Michael.
	They are rude and crude.
	Some of them, it's just not fun.
	I would never think of doing that to art.
	Do I sound rude and crude to you, George?
	What does he mean by they would never...
	Oh, he said they would never think of doing that to art.
	Well, we just had a caller on who wasn't.
	Yeah, I was going to say the last one kind of just criticized our.
	And honestly, yeah, I mean, compared to what he has to read on the forums, and we're pretty well behaved.
	I mean, I didn't call to talk about George.
	I called to talk about this kick-ass pinball machine that's going to get made.
	Frankly, sir, I think the idea sounds like it sucks.
	Oh, shit.
	Well, then, I'll have to get a George Norrie with no balls.
	Well, that one ought to be great.
	All right, guys.
	Thanks for letting me call.
	Love you, Art.
	Bye, Camellians.
	The George Nori pinball machine would be permanently in tilt.
	You know, quite honestly, I wondered why George Norrie would even call.
	Really?
	I don't see the argument.
	Well, he wanted to clear the air, and he would have a fair hearing.
	I'm not crazy.
	I mean, he would have a fair hearing.
	I would ask people to be honest, yet civil.
	I mean, I've been pretty rude to the man on the forum.
	But, I mean, I would be civil to him if he called, but this is a no-win scenario for him.
	I don't understand it.
	I don't understand why he's ever posted here to begin with.
	But, you know, I guess his ego is powerful enough that he thought he could sway people.
	I really want people to call in right now and tell us what you think about George canceling on this show.
	There you go.
	The number is 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242 cast.
	It's akin to finding out wrestling isn't real.
	It's akin to finding out, yes, the Tooth Fairy was just your mom taking her waitress money and shoving it unceremoniously under your pillow at night.
	Nothing interesting about that whatsoever.
	I like that better.
	You know, my daughter actually just asked me if I was the Tooth Fairy.
	You should have said, well, I'm a fairy, but I don't know about the tooth variety, sweetie.
	Well, that goes without saying.
	But she actually asked me if me and my wife were the tooth fairy, and I had to tell her.
	I've, you know, I had to tell her the truth.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Thank you for calling.
	Who's this?
	I want to request some rush, please.
	All right.
	Vapor Trails album over there.
	We got some time song for you.
	Well, if you got the money, I know a guy.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is that guy.
	Aldous, how you doing, buddy?
	Great.
	It's good to hear your voice, really.
	It is.
	How are you doing tonight?
	I'm a little drunk.
	Well, you know what?
	Aren't we all?
	I'm just a little disappointed George isn't going to call into this broadcast tonight.
	What is your assessment of that?
	Well, I think the quality of the cast is going to go up, but yucks are going to go down.
	Yeah?
	Sad.
	Well, you know what?
	And I saw you with your accusatory tone in the chat room suggesting that I was in some way conspiring with George Norrie in order to extract ratings from the listening audience.
	And I have to say that on many levels, I resent that, sir.
	Truth hurts, buddy.
	Oh, my.
	He's doubling down, ladies and gents.
	Told you I was a little drunk.
	I am too.
	And you know what?
	I'm going to have to.
	I'm here at my office.
	I have no ability to do this show at home because of the amount of equipment that's required in order to pull all of this off.
	And I just really don't have a feasible place at home to put it.
	So, like, some sort of a I feel as though I have been convicted of drunk driving and I can't operate a motor vehicle.
	So, I have to have somebody come to my office here and pick me up in a little bit.
	How's that?
	Don't you just know that things aren't going well in your life when your buddy has to show up and pick you up, even though you have a perfectly good car outside?
	That's no good.
	I think I need to bring out the truth here.
	The real truth is, is that George called and you didn't take his call.
	Oh, shut up.
	Come on.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm not allowed to tell Redacted to shut up any longer.
	Those days are over.
	Those days are over.
	Redacted, you're great.
	Everybody loves you.
	You've never done one thing wrong.
	She's a predicted woman.
	Aldous, I love you, buddy.
	And let me tell you something.
	I really, I don't know if you like me or not.
	I hope you do.
	You're one of these people that I hope like me, but I don't really think does.
	Yeah, I kind of love everybody as the problem.
	Don't even give me that.
	What would you say about me if I weren't around?
	I'm pissed, man.
	I'm pissed at you because all this stuff about coming out here and sitting on my porch, and I'm by myself right now.
	Even Pale Horse is gone.
	What's up with that?
	Well, Pale Horse is a douche.
	I'm sorry.
	If he's your friend, that's the best.
	If Pale Horse is your buddy, I don't know.
	Maybe we shouldn't hang out.
	He loves you, man.
	I've been putting up with Pale Horse for many years.
	Oh, my.
	He truly loves you.
	That's the problem right there.
	Oh, I don't buy that for one moment.
	Pale Horse hates me, and that's why I think you hate me.
	By extension.
	How can I compete with somebody that's been in your life burning spliffs on the porch for years?
	Oh, it's not in all of the DNA to hate anybody.
	If I love Pale Horse, think about it.
	That means I can love you, too.
	Just think about it for a minute.
	Okay, well, you know what?
	You have completely inverted my approach to thinking about this situation.
	That's my job, buddy.
	Asprodacted.
	That's my job.
	It is.
	He's very good at it.
	He's a perfectional at changing your mind.
	So basically, you're saying you have an extremely high tolerance for idiocy, which makes it more possible that you could conceivably like me.
	Okay, thanks.
	That's a little bit left-handed, but I'll take it.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	I consider myself an idiot expert.
	All right.
	Thank you, sir.
	Let's go ahead and take another call.
	That was Aldous Burbank calling in tonight on the Gabcast, a podcast about BellGab.com.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hey, guys, Bateman.
	Thup Bate.
	What's up, man?
	Well, since it appears that George will not be calling in, I wanted to know if you guys wanted to hear the list of questions that I had prepared for him.
	Oh, do tell.
	Do tell, Bateman.
	All right, so here's number one, because this all started with the libel accusations and the threats.
	So I was going to ask, would it be liable to say you have a dead animal on your head because it's only speculating?
	And is the animal alive or dead?
	That would be number one.
	And on his leap.
	Right.
	Yeah, we can't forget the caterpillar on his lip.
	Number two, whatever happened to Casey the dog?
	Number three, why did you cancel the Burns book deal?
	Number four, status of the Hawaii studio.
	Five, if there are any dead kids buried at his old horse farm.
	Number six, was he drunk the night he declared himself king of late night radio?
	And I wanted to thank him for disposing of Jimmy Church, and that's it.
	And what are we up to?
	Number seven, why do we live in a universe where Nori has a mustache and Art Bell does not?
	There's a question of the turtle, too.
	Let's not pass that up.
	Okay, next caller.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hello, hello.
	Hi, Envy.
	Hi, who's this?
	How are you?
	Hi, how are you?
	How are you, sugar?
	Tell me what your name is, sweetie.
	I'll get you some biscuits and such.
	Ooh, biscuits.
	I like that.
	What are you drinking, Envy?
	I'm drinking some sort of bourbon.
	Let's see what we got here.
	This is called W.L. Weller Special Reserve.
	I'm mixing this with Coke.
	I call it Jack and Coke just because I'm entirely an alcoholic neophyte.
	I have no idea what I'm doing.
	It all tastes the same to me.
	So if you handed me this and told me this is Jack and Coke, I would entirely believe you.
	No, that's cool.
	I'm drinking something with a feel on it.
	I don't even know what it is.
	The guy at the liquor store was like, no, you need to drink this.
	It has a feel on it.
	All I did.
	Well, you know, I'm out of work for two weeks because I just had surgery.
	That sounds pretty good.
	That's a pretty good reason to drink.
	Man, surgery drinks.
	Goes well with those pain pills, I'll tell you.
	I've been trying to avoid those because, you know, cold death thing.
	I don't know.
	Marilyn Monroe says it's a great feeling.
	Yeah, well, I'm going to get off topic, so whatever.
	So what brings you to the show tonight, buddy?
	Yeah, somebody was posting about anesthesia and like, you know, what your effects are on Belgab.
	I woke up on the table.
	I got to admit, that was pretty terrifying.
	That's my biggest fear in life.
	Waking up under anesthesia prematurely?
	Yeah.
	You know, I have never been operating.
	You know how lucky I am?
	You know the DNA I'm walking around with?
	The only thing that's ever happened to me, I climbed over a fence one time and I had my hand on the top of the fence as I was coming down.
	Cut me so deeply, I could see between the bones in my hand as my fingers lead down into the palm of my hand.
	I could see the bones in between there and I could see the skin on the other side.
	That's how deeply the fence cut me.
	And I had to get stitches.
	That is the most intensive thing that's ever happened to me in my life.
	I'm so lucky.
	I can't imagine what that experience is like, to have a mask put on your face and to have just some dude looking at you deeply into your eyes and suddenly you're waking up and oh hey, guess what?
	I've got a big cut on me, great right.
	But I mean you get like it's IV.
	But I woke up on the table and there's this guy trying to put a mask on my face and it's like, oh my god, you're trying to kill me because I can't breathe, because I got a tube down your throat.
	But you don't want to.
	Worst thought ever.
	You know my grandmother.
	I keep mentioning my I don't.
	I think my grandmother is communicating with me telepathically in some way from the grave, because I've been talking about so many things have been occurring to me that just sort of take me back to experiences she had or things that she said she was a respiratory therapist for 35 years.
	Her biggest fear in this universe was being placed on a respirator, because she worked in respiratory therapy and she saw on a routine basis what it is that's happening to people as they're placed on respirators and that is no way to go out lying in a bed having a machine pumping air into you.
	When you buy all rights should be dead.
	So sir, you're saying that your big fear is to wake up and feel a tube in your throat?
	Huh right, that's pretty much what i'm saying.
	I'd rather die.
	I told my wife just, uh, they put a tube down my throat.
	Just, I don't know about all that, I don't know.
	I think I would like to be kept alive.
	Tubes, juices, whatever you got to pump into me.
	Let's keep it going.
	I was that way, but, you know, I'm kind of a Christian, so I'm just like, let's roll with it.
	You know, I'll take my chances, you know?
	I miss my grandma.
	We'll bring a microphone to your hospital bed, MV, so you can cast more brats.
	You know, as my grandmother was dying, she was seeing her parents and people that she had previously loved and that were in her life, and she was having conversations with them.
	I was sitting right there.
	Let me jump in here.
	Oh, right.
	My dad was saying the same thing before he died.
	And I think if you start saying that stuff, you might as well just punch her kick it out of here.
	Oh, my.
	So basically, the fact that I feel like I'm in some way connected to my grandmother at this moment, I could be on the brink, is what you're telling me.
	Pretty much updated your living will and or will.
	No, I haven't.
	I'm a healthy 35-year-old man who is in, you know, I just have wonderful blood pressure.
	All my numbers are wonderful.
	I couldn't be healthier.
	I suspect you're still connected to your dead and deceased grandmother.
	In his last words.
	Oh, Jasmine, that's not very optimistic.
	Can you at least give someone the keys to Belgab just in case?
	Well, that would be Curtis Thornton.
	You know, Curtis and I have never talked about that, but it has occurred to me that if something happens to me, someone has to be there to keep things going and just maintain things.
	And I guess that would be Curtis, but I would like him to give my wife some of that money.
	I don't know.
	We need to work out some sort of arrangement in the event that I croak.
	But then what happens if Curtis dies?
	What if Curtis is a big slob and doesn't make arrangements?
	Imagine that Curtis's wife, she ends up remarrying, and it's someone who hates Art Bell and is a big George Norrie fan who now has control over Belgab.
	I'll have to learn how to run the forum.
	Take it back.
	That's my worst nightmare.
	What is George Norrie taking over Belgab?
	Well, you know what?
	Stranger things have happened.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, who's this?
	Hi, this is Eric in Seattle.
	Hi, Eric.
	It's a pleasure that you called this show this evening.
	Yeah, well, I just wanted to chime in on George not calling.
	You know, I think I'm with Onin on this.
	I don't see the upside of it, and I don't know why he even participates in Belgab at all.
	It only serves to make him look worse every time he gets involved.
	In what way?
	Oh, every time he gets involved.
	He just is shown to be, you know, he just shows his hand so easily.
	Gosh, I can't even think of an example.
	Even if he doesn't, even if he doesn't make himself look worse, I mean, he's still walking away with egg on his face or worse.
	And I just.
	Who's he?
	I don't know what he gets out of that.
	You know, I mean.
	Onin?
	Yeah.
	By he, the.
	You're applying that pronoun to Onan.
	No, to George.
	George, I'm drunk and confused.
	Carry on.
	It's okay.
	I'm saying that for George to come here, you know, the best thing that's going to happen is he's going to.
	Oh, I thought the caller was saying that you do these things, Onan.
	I was like, well, what's Onin done?
	I've always kind of liked Onin.
	I don't understand what's happening on the show tonight.
	I think you should have another drink.
	I just would like everybody to get along with one another.
	I think you just missed a memo there.
	It'll be okay.
	Envy, am I correct in saying that someone else was writing as George to you?
	Oh, yes.
	You know what makes me irate is that this person that I was communicating with earlier, I said in good faith, you know what?
	George, how about you come on?
	You call the gab cast tonight.
	We'll have you on.
	I promise you get a fair hearing.
	I'll speak to you like an adult.
	I will treat you in a civil manner.
	We will have a rational, reasonable conversation.
	And the person who responded to me was someone other than George, and they made it clear to me that they were not George, but that two or three other people have access to that account.
	And at the end of that message, this person said, oh, I guess we got your attention, didn't we?
	You know what, you sack of shit?
	I do not appreciate that approach to communicating with me.
	And this is what annoys me about you, George.
	I know you're listening to this show tonight.
	I know your handlers, including that fat blob that you've got working for you, goes by Tommy Dernherzer or whatever the hell his name is.
	I know that you people are listening.
	And I just want to say that this good cop, bad cop thing you do, where George goes in and shows everybody what a wonderful humanitarian he is, helping the lepers, cleaning up the trash from the streets of LA so that everybody can enjoy the great outdoors once again, helping old ladies into their homes, making sure that the meals on wheels are properly delivered, going to the grocery store, and making sure that the doors are closed on the freezer so that people can get properly frozen ice cream.
	All these things that George is doing for humanity out there are entirely counterbalanced by the assholes that he surrounds himself with.
	And I'm talking about you, Tom Danheiser, and probably you too, Lisa Lyon, because every time someone shows me a missive between themselves and you, it's always you people acting like complete C-notes toward the person, the listener, that you're communicating with, because this listener had the audacity to tell you what it is they think might possibly make the show, oh, slightly better.
	You guys always unload on those people in a way that just I find so off-putting.
	I'm sitting here having a good faith conversation with these people, and they just have to get that little dig in at the end of it.
	All, oh, I guess we got your attention now, don't we?
	No, I'm not scared of you, A. B, you only have, as I said to you in my response, my attention to the extent to which you deserve it, which isn't much.
	And I don't really know what more there is to say.
	I just wish if these people were going to communicate with George's listeners, they would do so in a way that is not entirely inconsistent with this phony baloney leave it to beaver image that George Norrie is trying to show people out there.
	They're not amateurs.
	They're some professionals.
	Sorry.
	That's okay.
	I just wanted to, do you think it's possible considering that someone else was posting as George?
	Well, obviously that's happened, hasn't it?
	Yes, so could those drunken rants have been somebody else?
	My drunken rants or drunken rants are you.
	And by the way, the person who told me that George is not going to be appearing.
	MV, I'm sorry, but I'm declining your invitation to appear on the gabcast.
	This person used proper capitalization and punctuation, used periods at the end of sentence.
	Well, I guess that would be punctuation.
	And they were comprehensible.
	So I don't think this person is George Norrie.
	I think that someone got wind of the fact that George was planning on coming on here today.
	And they put the kibosh on that pretty quickly.
	And they went ahead and commandeered his Bellgab account and sent me that little missive forthwith.
	Did it hurt your feelings?
	Well, I'm a little butthurt.
	Yes.
	No, I'm not upset, but I do think that it would have been a productive conversation.
	I don't know how productive it would have been because I'm not sure how honest George has necessarily been in the past when he's had these communications with people who are his detractors or whatever.
	But I'm sick of the nice guy shtick.
	I'm not buying it for a second.
	And George, if you are such a nice guy, how about you be a little bit more proactive about who it is you surround yourself by?
	Because my entire life, I've always believed that you are who you walk with.
	And the people you're walking with, buddy, I tell you what, they're dickheads.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Who's this?
	This is White Crow.
	This is White Crow.
	I'm just joking.
	Nori is awesome again.
	Hey, buddy.
	I didn't get to my original point.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to get to it now.
	So just bear with me.
	No, you go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm pulling a white crow school.
	Well, you should be, but go ahead.
	Right.
	Nori is like a complete piece of shit.
	I'm just going to throw it.
	Well, that's a little harsh.
	My goodness.
	Isn't it really?
	Because, I mean, in order for you to believe he's a nice guy, you have to think like, okay, the Ghostbuster girls are lying.
	And I've emailed them, and they pretty much said they were banned from Coast to Coast because they were on Art Show.
	And to me, that's complete ridiculousness because, I mean, Art's been booking like half these people, probably over half these people for since, you know, 20, 30 years.
	And they're complaining about that.
	And then there's the whole Bateman thing where he's saying, okay, well, you know, I never offered Bateman to be on the show or whatever.
	And during the time, Bateman was making posts saying, hey, you know, he offered to have me on every Friday as like a weekly segment.
	And if you throw that into addition to the Jimmy Church thing, where he was like, you know, Nori's like, you know, hey, Jimmy Church, you know, come be on the show.
	And then he was on the show like once or twice.
	I think it was actually twice.
	And then, you know, he's never been on Costa Coast since he's left Dark Matter Radio Network.
	And now he wants us to believe, oh, it's just a pure coincidence.
	They don't have any openings since he's off the Dark Matter Radio Network that, you know, he can't host anymore.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	I agree.
	Sorry, sir.
	I agree.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Nori is awesome.
	What's your fascination with green-skinned women?
	Green-skinned women.
	I guess you got to have like a theme on.
	I'm trying to go for the whole theme thing.
	If you have like, always have an avatar that kind of the same thing, people notice you more.
	It's like, oh, what's that green-skinned guy?
	I've never seen another person find as many pictures of green women as you can.
	Yeah, have you run out of pictures you find on the internet?
	Are you now putting a filter over normal-skinned, colored-skinned women?
	No, no, no.
	Are you using that as a benchmark?
	I mean, do you really expect other people to have green-skinned women?
	Not really.
	No.
	Nori is awesome.
	Has the complete biggest stash of pictures of green women.
	Probably more than most Star Trek fans.
	Nori is awesome.
	When you signed up for an account at Bellgab.com, did you think that you wouldn't be allowed in because of your username?
	No.
	I was actually concerned someone was going to have a similar username to me.
	Again, I'm drunk.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I apologize.
	Well, I just want to inform you as of tonight you're banned.
	I don't like that name.
	I've had enough.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right.
	I want to have a username where no one else would want and say, yeah, who's that fucker?
	I hate that guy.
	We're not on Dark Matter radio.
	This is Gatcass, not specsy, right?
	Yeah, let's be degenerate scum.
	Go.
	Fuck that shit.
	Fuck Nori.
	Bye.
	That guy's a terrible person.
	He's an awesome person.
	There is a lady.
	We'll have to discern race.
	We run the clean show, sir.
	We do.
	As Art Bell would say, fuck you.
	I run a clean show.
	I love Art Bell.
	I don't care what anybody says.
	If you have a problem with me loving Art Bell, you can blow me.
	How about that?
	No, you're dead, right?
	I mean, I've been listening to Art Bell.
	Not you.
	I just mean in a general sense.
	I'm not specifically saying that to you.
	I understand that.
	But Jess Munda, he listens like eight hours a day to Art Bell.
	He's sick.
	No, I'm out there.
	I do the thing.
	I'm a study at home computer.
	Yes.
	I think he's tattooing pictures of art on his chest as we sleep.
	I try to get him to send me the picture of his Art Bell tattoo, and he just won't do it.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Who's this?
	Hey, this is Chefist.
	Are you calling from a Vietnam radio, sir?
	Oh, pardon me.
	Sorry, that was a.
	There's Charlie everywhere.
	What are we going to do?
	Get those grenades in here.
	I got some ass support.
	What are we going to do?
	Okay, go on, sir.
	My mother, well, I think, well, other than the fact that I had to introduce my girlfriend to this whole bell gab thing tonight.
	Are you trying to ensure that you never have sex again, sir?
	No, I won't be having sex tonight.
	Well, that goes without that.
	But other than that, I think, you know what?
	The fact that Dave bowed out pretty much, you know, almost expected that to happen.
	Isn't that just disappointing as your overall assessment of the man?
	Isn't that just a further disappointment?
	You know, once again, when you reach rock bottom, you have no further to go.
	So in terms of my expectations of Dave, well, he pretty much met them then.
	So, however, you know, I think the most important part of the show tonight is that MV, you're a great broadcaster and a great interviewer.
	But on alcohol, 100 times better.
	Oh, please.
	That's a little depressing to hear.
	Good grief.
	Sir, when you're inebriated and not suited to be around your own child, you're great at doing this show.
	Thank you.
	Well, I noticed the child wasn't there, so, you know, kudos.
	Where do you think I'm going after this?
	Who do you think is going to be dealing with me?
	Well, CPS, probably.
	But, you know, that's okay.
	Well, just so.
	Just don't place any calls to the 160 people.
	I'm not a warning of her father.
	But hey, no, I'm going to get off and listen.
	This is great.
	But you know what?
	This is exactly what pretty much we all expected.
	You know, Art's coming back.
	I thought he was going to be.
	When you say this is what we all expected, do you mean you thought that he, in fact, would not appear tonight, Georgianori?
	Absolutely.
	I didn't think he was going to be able to do that.
	I thought for sure it was going to happen.
	I thought for sure he was going to come.
	I'm not saying that I'm not going to go home tonight and punch a hole in the drywall, but at the same time, it's going to be a good idea.
	You don't want CPS out there again, like we talked about.
	It would have been an interesting broadcast had he called.
	Oh, it would have.
	I would love to talk to him, but I would feel really uncomfortable afterwards.
	I actually had some questions written out.
	Did you really?
	Yeah.
	I just don't do that.
	I'm afraid to do that because I'm afraid that it's going to prevent my mind from meandering into other.
	I was just going to wing it and see what happened, you know?
	Just have a conversation with two men.
	Anyway, hi, you're on the air.
	Who's this?
	Absolutely.
	Hi.
	I know, I know.
	Hello, sweetie.
	Hi, how are you guys doing?
	I'm great.
	Everybody's great.
	We're all great, right, guys?
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	What are you doing over there under the trees?
	I know, I know.
	Nothing.
	She's hanging out on my little porch with my little girl.
	How's your little girl doing?
	How's your little girl?
	I'm doing great.
	She's two, right?
	She will be three in August.
	Mine's going to be three in September.
	It's just a wonderful age watching them grow up.
	It's so much fun.
	It is.
	It really is.
	Is this your first kid?
	Is that your first kid?
	Yes, it is.
	Absolutely.
	My first little sweet joy.
	What's her name?
	Her name?
	Yeah.
	Amelia.
	Is she potty trained yet?
	Is she going in the toilet?
	Oh, yeah.
	She's on potty train for a long time.
	She doesn't even wear a diaper anymore.
	Well, my child.
	I was called a couple of gab casts ago that was her.
	Well, I figured it was, but I wasn't entirely sure.
	My child is speaking Arabic fluently, but she still craps her pants.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, you know, you got to take one or the other.
	Probably you can get those diapers, you know, for adults that she never goes out of the crap in her pants thing.
	But Arabic is hard to learn when you're in the bulbs.
	It sure is.
	That's why I was adamant.
	My child is going to be bilingual.
	My wife only speaks Arabic to our daughter.
	I speak English.
	And she speaks better Arabic than she does English.
	She's well on her way to slashing the throats of infidels.
	Oh, that's great.
	My daughter basically speaks English and sailor.
	And what?
	Sailor.
	Sailor.
	Oh.
	Oh, my.
	She's ready to proceed about the open sea.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	She has all the great, great words.
	You're going to be on Belgab talking about how you're squeezing lime juice into your daughter's mouth.
	That's scurvy.
	We just can't do anything about it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So did you have a question about Art Bell?
	I know you're a big fan.
	Yeah, is it true?
	I know, I know that you have never listened to Art Bell once in your life.
	Oh, no, really, it is true.
	I've never listened.
	I plan on listening at some point.
	You know, mostly I listened just because of Redacted.
	And, you know, all this got me on the forum.
	So I was kind of following you guys for a little bit.
	I think about after a year, you guys are starting to be funny, since I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
	We don't.
	Well, listen to Midnight in the Desert and tell us what you think.
	I'm going to.
	Well, once I found out Redacted was going to be on, I decided I'm not going to listen.
	Carry on.
	Make sure to let me know when I'm supposed to listen because I'm really bad about paying attention to what time is what.
	You know what?
	I have never actually broken down how to say your screen name.
	It's I know, I know, right?
	I know, I know.
	What do you think about Redacted being on with Art Bell?
	Isn't that, well, since you've never really immersed yourself in the Art Bell universe, you may not find it to be that impressive.
	But what do you think about this whole thing with Redacted being on with him?
	Isn't it just insane?
	It is insane.
	I would think that maybe I am probably more impressed than the rest of you because I don't know who Art Bell is, but I know that there's such a big fuss about him that I'm, you know, it'd be like if you're like, oh, I'm going to be on this Justin Bieber song or something.
	Like, I don't really listen to that craft, but I know that that's really cool, you know?
	So I would probably listen.
	The thing I like the most about Redacted being on with Art Bell is she's the one person who wasn't sticking her nose into things, trying to be.
	That's what I like about it.
	Exactly.
	If you let things just be what they are, then they will come to you.
	Redacted.
	I love you.
	I'm very happy for you.
	Not to mention, she's way easier to listen to the rest of you.
	But I will do everything in my power to sabotage you.
	Next caller.
	No sabotage.
	Well, I'd like everyone to keep in mind one specific word, and that word is maybe.
	And that was the word that was used.
	I thought the word was going to be gravitas.
	That's just me.
	Well, you know, it's Art Bell, so gravitas is strongly implied.
	You know, but I can't.
	I wish there I can't say what I was just about to say.
	But it's a maybe, and I'm very much looking forward to it.
	And all I can really say is I'll be ready.
	And guys, don't rip me up too hard.
	Listen.
	Go easy on the amateur over here.
	Listen, you now have access to Art Bell.
	I've been trying to get out there to mow his grass.
	Is there any way you can make I will use a mechanical motor, a mower that doesn't have a motor?
	So it's just like, you know, the kind that the blade spins as you push it?
	They won't even know I'm outside doing it.
	I will take out the trash.
	I can get a high-pressure washer and spray the scum off the outside of the home.
	I can do a little bit of landscaping.
	I've been known to dig trenches.
	I can handle French drains.
	There's a number of contributions I can make to the Art Bell home.
	So if you could get me in over there, I'd really appreciate it.
	I don't know.
	I just want to let it be known, Redacted, that when we were sort of deciding who we should bring on to the Gabcast, I think I was the one that mentioned your name first.
	You know what?
	Piss on you.
	I was the one who brought Redacted onto this show.
	I still don't want her here.
	Onan, I agree wholeheartedly.
	I've been pretending.
	If I remember right, I think a long time ago, I don't know, a year and a half ago, I asked, there was a spot open, and it was a choice between me and Jazz.
	And I got snubbed in favor of Jazz because he was, you know, one of the guys.
	When was this?
	I'm a farm.
	When was this?
	I had secret pain.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You're saying you were snubbed by me?
	When did this happen?
	It was a consensus, actually.
	I don't know what you're saying.
	You may not remember, but I do, sir.
	I have no idea what you're talking about, and I would ask that you keep your opinions to yourself, madam.
	Look where you are now, and look where I am.
	Well, it's a lot of fun.
	It's a lot of fun.
	Frodo in the chat room says that art doesn't have grass.
	I correct you because I recall years ago during an Art Bell broadcast, Art mentioning the fact that grass was growing in an uncharacteristic fashion throughout his yard.
	It was becoming something of a lush jungle outside his mobile home there in Perup, Nevada.
	And so therefore, I'm sure my services could definitely be of some use.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Caller?
	Hello.
	Come on, Colin.
	We just want to hear what you have to say.
	Let's go.
	We want to talk to you.
	Okay, well, there's so many people.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hi.
	Hey, oh, you can hear me.
	Yeah, you're good.
	You're okay.
	What's up, buddy?
	Are we allowed to curse on here or no?
	That's all right.
	You can say what you want.
	Okay, so are you guys all part of the Coast Gab forums?
	Like, what's your story?
	What's the story behind this?
	Michael Van Dieven?
	Well, there's this the dude who owns the forum never participates in this show.
	The rest of us are just sort of people that he likes, and we just kind of do this show.
	Frankly, I find the owner of the forum to be something of a poof.
	Redacted?
	I've heard this rumor that there is some kind of faggy stuff going on with the owner.
	I don't know.
	It's a rumor that I've heard, so I don't want to make any declarations or anything like that.
	It's a little bit harder.
	He's a fun guy.
	He likes Liberace.
	It's a good time.
	So, you know, I just kind of let the gay stuff go and just have a good time with him.
	The owner of Belgab has herpes in multiple locations throughout his body and only eats rotten cheese.
	Okay, wait, so you guys don't talk on Belgab then?
	Well, I try not to.
	Well, we run.
	I don't know.
	Okay, well, I was a member on that forum like two years ago.
	I don't know.
	I just got to come back to it, and I got this PM about this show.
	So I thought I'd call in because I'm really happy that you called.
	It's been two years.
	That's a long time and forum years.
	And I think it's wonderful you called.
	What was your username on Belgab?
	Addison.
	Addison?
	I remember that name.
	Addison.
	I think I remember vaguely seeing that name.
	I don't know.
	Were you banned?
	What ended up happening to you?
	I was not banned.
	I just had other shit to do, and I quit going on it.
	Oh, so there was more important stuff in your life than Belgab.
	Okay, thanks.
	Great.
	Okay, so you're more productive than we are.
	Okay, we got it.
	Thanks for nothing.
	Well, I don't know.
	I came back.
	Are you what was it?
	What was it that brought you back and what has kept you back?
	Well, isn't Art doing a new show soon?
	He is.
	Yeah, I can't sit around chat talking, like, chatting about fucking art when he's not around.
	And then I can't chat about Nori other than just to trash him.
	So that gets old real quick, and I can't waste that much time doing it.
	Well, do you know Art Bell is listening to you right now?
	Yeah.
	Oh, cool.
	Is he?
	He is.
	He's listening to the show right now.
	What would you say to Art Bell if he were sitting right in front of you and you had the ability to do so?
	I'd say that he's an awesome man.
	And I think he's cool as shit.
	And I liked ham radio when I was a kid.
	Yeah.
	But I don't believe that he's actually listening.
	I swear on everything holy that Art Bell is listening to you right now.
	But I do think your comments were slightly uncreative.
	Are you going to be joining us for the live threads on Midnight in the Desert?
	Are you going to be listening with all of us crazy people?
	I'm going to try.
	I don't know what time it is yet.
	Like, I thought it was at the end of this month that it would start.
	And then suddenly it's the end of what, July?
	July 20th.
	That's a big day.
	Okay.
	Okay, yeah.
	For some reason, I thought it was the end of this month.
	I don't know why I thought that.
	But yeah, that's why I kind of came back.
	The stars are not in alignment for June 20th.
	It's July.
	Actually, well, Onin is right.
	July 19th is the test.
	Open Lines test.
	Yeah, and I just want to mention that prior to Art's Open Lines test on the 19th, we will be doing a gab cast sort of a lead-up into art show for a few hours with Bateman.
	Jasmunda, are you laying your Australian accent on a little more thickly tonight than normally is the case?
	Because I feel like you're doing something of a put-on.
	I'm a little drunk.
	Anyway, so are you guys actually tied in some way to Art Bell?
	No.
	Not to Art Bell, but to Bell Gab itself, yes.
	He's my biological.
	I don't understand the complexities of it.
	I just called him this number because I'm not sure.
	This is a show about a forum, about a show that doesn't exist anymore that is trashed by a horrible host.
	And then there's also the show that is returning, and that's what we're talking about tonight.
	Does that make sense?
	I hope I do.
	It's very complicated.
	Yeah, I kind of understand what you're saying.
	Art Bell, if you could just please call in for three seconds and let this caller know that you are in fact listening to him and that you did hear his albeit uncreative accolades.
	To be honest, I didn't believe you at all, and I still don't.
	I swear to God.
	I'm not in the chat room telling you that you're wrong.
	He's in the chat room.
	I'm not in the chat room.
	If you go to ufoship.com slash chat, you'll see somebody.
	Well, I know, I know.
	I was there, but it was also playing a stream or something, so I had to close it.
	It would be rude for me to listen to another stream at the same time or a delayed stream while I'm talking to you.
	Well, we have another caller on the air.
	Hi, who's this?
	Hey, it's me again.
	Sorry, eating a sandwich.
	Oh, I thought you were Art Bell.
	God damn it!
	I can try to be the voice if you want.
	I'm calling to say, ah, this is Art Bell.
	How is that?
	Was that good?
	You're not Phil Henry.
	You can't pull that off.
	You've got to pull off the Howard.
	Well, I know I'm not Phil Hendry, but I mean, an honest assessment.
	What would you rate that?
	Did you get another email, Bateman?
	I did, actually.
	He is listening right now.
	He also says he has no idea why he likes me, and he is convinced I have multiple personalities.
	Who is?
	George.
	He's toying with you.
	Of course he is.
	These emails are absurd.
	So I told them to you.
	Just call.
	I mean, he's listening.
	George, just call.
	So he calls.
	I chill out.
	Do I really sound that dangerous?
	It's a phone call.
	Come on.
	Okay, well, the calls keep coming in.
	Let's see what we've got here.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Okay, well, that one went away.
	See, I wasn't sure who that might be.
	You're drunk.
	Well, no, they hung up on what am I supposed to do?
	My alcohol intake has nothing to do with the use of the telephone system on the part of another person.
	I want to control the phones.
	I wish you would.
	I'm tired of pushing all these buttons and turning all of these knobs and shoving all of these levers up and down.
	That's what she said.
	Okay.
	Well, if you want to be on the show tonight, we have a phone number.
	And that phone number is 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-2278.
	We have about nine minutes to go until I have to leave.
	I'm intoxicated.
	I'm entirely intoxicated at this point.
	I am not capable of operating a motor vehicle in a safe fashion.
	Therefore, somebody has to come to my office here and pick me up.
	And because of that, I have to leave at a certain time.
	How about that?
	I think that's very responsible.
	Well, you know what?
	I'm just not a big fan of going to jail and having somebody ask me to bend over so that they can check me for contraband, you know?
	I can't imagine you interacting with an officer of the law right now.
	I want to pay.
	I will pay good money to see that, sir.
	I will pay $39.95 to see you talk to an officer of the law.
	So to have my life ruined, that to you is worth $39.95.
	Even as a co-host of Midnight in the Desert, it's only $39.95.
	I would think that as a co-host of that show, you could do slightly better, ma'am.
	I think the average overall cost of getting a DWI over the course of its time is like 10 grand.
	That's exactly it.
	So you're saying it's going to cost me $10,000 to see this priceless interaction between hammered MV and what it's going to cost you.
	You know what's going to happen is I'm going to be in jail and they're going to be people sitting there next to me and I'm going to be looking at them and saying, you see the paint they're using on these bars?
	Do you really think that this is the proper paint for these bars?
	I don't think it is.
	I mean, I'm already in jail.
	I'm already miserable enough.
	Do we have to use neutral gray?
	Really?
	And why are we painting bars to begin with?
	Isn't that slightly sarcastic and insulting?
	Don't they already don't they already come in gray, but yet they're painted also?
	I am going to be repeatedly facially raped.
	I'll stop before you go.
	This motherfucker talk about bot paint.
	Okay.
	I can't believe I hang out with you guys.
	Look at that.
	This is what I do to try and be on the air.
	Chameleon, what's up?
	Chameleon, what's up, buddy?
	Hey, sorry to call again.
	Well, you should have told me.
	I want George to know that every minute he doesn't call, I'm going to donate $10 to Art's new show.
	Fuck you.
	I thought you were going to say Belgab, you sack of shite.
	Oh, and Bell.
	You know what?
	And Bell Gab.
	So that's what's going to go down.
	And matter of fact, I want you to confirm on the forum tonight that I did donate $70 to the site because every minute he doesn't call, I'm donating $10 to this site.
	I don't believe you.
	Well, that's what I'm saying is you can tally it up after the show ends.
	If you do that, I will confirm it, but I just don't believe you, sir.
	Okay, well, I swear to you and everybody on here, and I may not be able to donate to ArtSight right now, but I will keep that balance in check for later.
	It would have been nice you called in with this offer at the first of the hours.
	Yeah, about an hour ago.
	That math would have put me a little behind.
	That was somewhat strategic on your part, sir.
	I will say that.
	I heard nine minutes left, and I'm like, you know, I could stretch an offer like this right about now.
	So MV, maybe we should make the show a little bit longer tonight.
	But no, that's how adamant I am that he just will not swallow some pride and call up here.
	And that's how much I'm willing to.
	And if he does, I'm not going to say that money's going to go to his Coast Insider stuff because he's got enough dupes in there for that.
	But, you know, it's just something I feel like I should let him know that's working counterproductive by him not calling.
	It's just going to work the opposite way.
	So I am excited to donate money to art.
	Oh, you have no idea.
	I'm just because I don't know what kind of packages he's going to allow to donate.
	I'm just, I'm like, I don't know how much I'm willing to just hand over, but I'm so stoked about that because while I can't help him by knowing all these radio stations, I can help him by throwing his ass a shitload of money.
	So.
	Oh, stop bragging, sir.
	No, dude, I have like, I have really no social life where I currently am now.
	So I am just hoarding, you know, that.
	So I am looking to give back.
	And yeah, yeah.
	Having no social life is a great way to stack some cash, sir.
	Yeah, and ever since I moved to this particular part of Orange County, there's just not shit going on.
	So I'm glad I'm able to.
	And plus, I mean, who wouldn't want to help art out?
	Not that he needs, you know, fiscal help, but I mean, hell.
	Well, he is engaging in a commercial enterprise, and it needs to be profitable.
	Yep.
	I have never known of a radio host to whom I am excited to donate money.
	This is a very special situation.
	Is there anything, guys, do you think there's anything we can do as the foot soldiers on the ground in getting radio stations to sort of be aware that Night in the Desert is going to happen?
	Just call them.
	Asked to speak to a program director.
	I mean, should we be targeting, you know, what, the stations that are the highest rating ones, the second, third, fourth, or just anything?
	You should start at the top.
	In your area.
	The biggest radio station, wherever you live, give them a call and be nice.
	I'm going to put signs on my car doors.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello, who's this?
	If I don't call in, Bateman is going to clog up my email.
	Okay, George Nori.
	George Norrie.
	I'm glad you did, and I have 1,000% more respect as a result of your having done so.
	And as I told you in my private messages to you, I would never bring you on here and, you know, just blindside you or something like that.
	I would love to have an idea.
	I would like to have a rational, reasonable adult conversation.
	You're going to have to stay over.
	Your ride is not going to be able to take you wherever you're going.
	Well, we'll have to just let him sit out there.
	He's a friend of mine, and friends are there to be abused, sir.
	I will pay for the cab.
	Will, yes, everybody.
	What's on your mind tonight, George?
	Whatever you want, redacted.
	Whatever I want?
	Yes, ma'am.
	Whatever you want.
	Whatever I want.
	You're giving me that option.
	You're just writing me that blank check.
	I'm giving you that blank check.
	Okay, well, let's get down to brass tacks here because we really do have a limited amount of time.
	George, here we are in the midst of Art Bell making what appears to be just a momentous run-up to a show that so many people are excited about.
	And it seems like every time, it almost sounds funny to say every time this happens, but back in 2013 when Art was making this run-up to beginning dark matter on Sirius XM,
	it seemed like you kind of came out of the woodwork where you hadn't previously and started interacting with the Bell Gab regular audience in a way that many people perceived to be uncharacteristic of you and perhaps I will even venture to say trollish.
	And then you sort of disappear for a long time and now it looks as though Art's coming back again in July.
	More than looks like he's even got radio stations already signing on the dotted line, agreeing to carry his new show.
	And now I'm hearing from George Norrie again and I'm hearing from you in the context of, well, using words like libel and things of this nature.
	And I mean, this sort of seems like it begins a new precedent that I'm a little bit uncomfortable with.
	I mean, what are your comments on this?
	Well, first of all, you know personally how I feel about you because I've told you in several personal messages, I think you're great.
	I think you're a genius.
	I think you're right.
	Oh, stop it, sir.
	I mean, anybody who has put together what you've done with what was once Coast Gab and now Bellgab, you know, you've done a great job.
	Now, let's keep in mind, I was an original Coast Gab member.
	I joined much later than most people, and so I hung around.
	I guess you could say that my timing is strangely acute and intuitive, maybe, that whenever Art's doing his thing, I seem to crop up a little bit more.
	Maybe that's personal public relations.
	I don't know what it is.
	But I really want to know the real answer to that.
	And so, here I am.
	Here I am.
	I'm at the end of the day.
	That's not an answer, sir.
	Well, what kind of answer do you want, Redacted?
	The real one.
	Well, why do you pop up?
	Why are you coming?
	I'm a member.
	I'm a member.
	I come in and I come out.
	I pick the most opportune times to do what I do.
	See, I find that highly suspicious.
	Why is this time opportune for you to pop up into our lives?
	Well, here's the thing.
	Are you saying it?
	Look, when I don't pop up, I get attacked for not coming on.
	I've never seen anybody attack you for not coming on, George.
	Come on.
	But here's my question to you.
	And it's pretty much a re-asking of the same question that Redact had just asked.
	I mean, originally the website was GeorgeNorrySucks.com.
	You didn't feel compelled to come.
	It's horrible.
	Horrible.
	I agree.
	I am a degenerate, but that is what it was originally called.
	And you never contacted me back then to express concerns about libel or slander or anything along those lines.
	And now here Art's making these moves to come back to broadcasting.
	And you're contacting me using words like libel in talking with me.
	And it sounds as though you are making legal overtures, which I don't really understand.
	I mean, sir, you make your living fundamentally as a result of the freedom of speech that we enjoy in this country that's enshrined in our Constitution.
	I just find it to be the ultimate irony.
	It's almost tangible embodiment of the word irony that you would be sending me messages threatening essentially to impede.
	I never threaten you, Mike.
	Well, but I mean, it seems like a veiled threat when you tell me that you're going to have paralegals and using your words combing through the website.
	Read some of the things that have been posted by some of the people.
	Not all of you, and none of you there right now.
	But I mean, my do you know what, you know, when Art says himself, he's a public person.
	If you go back and look at historically some of the things Art has had to do to defend himself from the junk that's on the internet, anybody in their right mind would do the same thing.
	And honestly, there are some things on that site, and there's some funny things on that site.
	I don't have any complaints about that.
	George, you're right.
	But there's some things on that site that should not be there.
	I've had some family members who peruse that, and frankly, it's embarrassing for me.
	Well, okay, but you are a public product who.
	That's not the point.
	Well, let me finish that thought.
	I'm saying you are a product, sir, not just a public person, but you are a public product.
	You've elected to put yourself out there for public consumption, and in doing so, people are going to render opinion.
	Opinion's one thing.
	I don't have any problems with anybody critiquing who I am, what I do.
	I know what I've done.
	I know that I tried to build this show up from 440 affiliates back in 2003 to 600 today.
	I'm not concerned about that.
	But when you take personal stabs at maybe some family members and other things, I'm going to defend myself.
	Well, you should.
	Those people who would attack your family, those people suck.
	I don't think there's anyone hosting this show right now talking with you who's going to disagree there.
	And by the way, my granddaughter is right up the street from you.
	She's going to Cape Girardeau.
	She goes to Southeast Missouri State.
	You know what?
	Someone keeps bending the antenna on my car, sir.
	Thank you for informing me.
	It's not that one.
	She's too precious for that.
	Okay, but you've got me now.
	You've got some valuable time.
	Take advantage of it.
	Okay, well, I mean, so do I have a lawsuit to look forward to from your people?
	You know, here's the thing, George.
	You always come across as a nice guy, but it seems like a bit of an episode of Good Cop, Bad Cop, because frankly, the people that you're surrounded by, I'm just going to use the word, are just shit.
	No, they're not, but they protect me.
	Well, They protect you in a way that I think is entirely counterproductive.
	Do you think someone within the midst of your inner sanctum there at Premiere Radio or whatever the company calls itself now sending me a message saying, Yes, we've got your attention now, sir?
	I mean, come on.
	What is this?
	It's kind of funny.
	Come on, you gotta laugh.
	Well, when we're talking about a company that's worth millions and millions of dollars and is publicly traded and has unlimited access to legal teams sending me messages saying that we have your attention now.
	I take that slightly differently me and my personal camp did not come from.
	That came, well, you say me and my camp.
	That didn't come from you.
	It came from someone around you, and I take that seriously.
	Well, I have a little staff, but I'll assure you, unless as Art said, I'm not accused of being a child molester or murderer.
	I don't think you have anything.
	If you, George, if you ever contacted me and said someone on my site accused you of being any of those things, that is clear, unambiguous libel.
	I would within 10 seconds remove that from the forum, but you've never contacted me with somebody.
	All right, that's fair enough.
	That's fair enough.
	I have a very burning question for you, George.
	Okay, redact it.
	All right.
	I've been really wanting to ask you this, and here's my opportunity.
	So, here we go.
	Art bells coming back to the air, right?
	We all know July 20th is a big day.
	And I want your honest answer here.
	You'll always get an honest answer from me.
	I hear you.
	I'm not like it.
	But you're always going to be.
	I'm going to be planning sabotage.
	Are you going to get in the way?
	Is there enough room in the airwaves for the both of you?
	Oh, my God.
	Of course.
	Listen, I've been emailing Art.
	Art and I have one disagreement.
	It was my interview with David Oates.
	Other than that, we have got along.
	We have been kind to each other.
	Do you remember when I was saying now?
	Just hang on.
	Did you have anything to do with this contact in the desert thing?
	That was why I asked you about sabotage.
	Heck no.
	I found out about it when probably most other people did.
	I was hired to host a panel.
	I don't have anything to do with what they do.
	I don't have anything to do with that.
	Okay, well, that's cool.
	What about the people that surround you, sir?
	No, absolutely not.
	But you have heard about it.
	I went on Thursday night by another airperson whose name I will not mention who said Art's trying to come to contact in the desert.
	And I said, great, have him come here.
	I don't think he was trying to.
	They invited him.
	I thought that was unusual because Art doesn't go to events.
	Right.
	He hardly ever goes to events.
	All the more reason he should have been there, and all the more reason it's puzzling that he wasn't.
	I would have loved to have introduced him, okay?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I offered Art an opportunity to come back to coast to coast when this situation collapsed several months ago.
	That didn't work out.
	Did anybody know that?
	No.
	He would want to do that.
	You're in place there.
	The point is, I wanted to bring him back.
	And he knows as a guest host or in what?
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to try to work something out a little bit better for him.
	Now, I may be going over and infringing on some confidences that he and I had talked about.
	He asked me not to reveal some things in an email, but I'm just saying I would have brought him back.
	I have no ill feelings about him at all.
	None.
	Hey, George, I think it was in the Falke interview, the George Cinda interview.
	I think that's where I saw that, where you said that when you brought Oates on the show, it was your understanding that while he was at one point banned, that he was brought on the show again after having been banned, and that's why you thought it was okay for you to bring him on the show.
	Am I correct?
	That's absolutely correct.
	I was told by two staff members of Art directly that after their settlement, Lisa Lyon and Alan Corbett.
	Okay.
	And that after their settlement, Oates was invited back on the show, and something happened during the show, and Art said never again, that's it for him.
	But in terms of the suit and all that, I was informed it was settled, and that was it.
	But he was back on the show.
	He did a show after the court issue.
	Well, that's when I saw that in the George Cinda interview, that was the first time I had seen that.
	So that's a different perspective for people.
	I want to address SiriusXM.
	Everybody says we squeezed art off the air.
	Art quit SiriusXM.
	We didn't force him off at all.
	We didn't have anything to do with that.
	But at what point did you guys begin the angling to appear on the same channel as he?
	A year before that.
	Oh, really?
	As you know, we were on XM longer than when I was on Coast to Coast.
	After about 10 years, that channel went away.
	We started negotiating before Art came on to get back onto Sirius and XM.
	There are no coincidences, George.
	It's not no show.
	As we were negotiating, Art came on the air.
	We were still negotiating to be on after his show.
	And then he quit.
	So they just picked up the show quicker than we thought.
	They pay for the show.
	It's not even free.
	I mean, we get income on that from them.
	But this thing had started well over a year before Art was on Sirius XM.
	Well, I really don't know.
	People don't know that.
	People don't know that.
	I really wish, George, that you had called earlier because, I mean, your appearance warrants more than just 10 to 15 minutes.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	We'll do this again another time.
	Will we, really?
	I mean, you almost backed out on me tonight.
	I can't believe you're here.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	And I'll tell you why.
	I mean, as I was perusing today, I mean, all I saw was negativity.
	Negativity.
	I hate him.
	And I said, why do I need this?
	Those people are animals.
	Don't worry about them.
	I don't mind being funny.
	I mean, take shots at me.
	I mean, that doesn't bother me.
	I'm Teflon.
	We'll treat you fairly.
	Let's take it.
	Let's go.
	Let's take it.
	I found Redacted before Art did.
	Well, I found it before you did, sir.
	Yes, that's true.
	That's true.
	I've got a good ear for talent.
	Thank you.
	Let's take a quick call.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hey, Daddy, calling back.
	I'm sorry.
	I just, I just, I'm a frequent listener of SiriusXM.
	And I've heard from, well, I actually know people who work at Sirius XM.
	And they basically said that Art quit because they would basically not give him enough phone lines during his show.
	And basically, so when he went to do the call-ins, he just couldn't because it was garbage.
	Well, I think the biggest problem Art was facing was that, well, really, I think the biggest problem was that he simply wasn't on terrestrial radio.
	Well, and the phone lines, we have to remember, were controlled in Washington, D.C.
	So Art didn't have control over his own phones.
	When that went down one night, he didn't have a show.
	And, you know, it's going to go a lot better.
	And he only had, what, one, two incoming lines.
	So that's not going to work out unless he has control of those phone lines.
	And additionally, I mean, satellite radio is something that people have to make an active effort in order to hear.
	You have to pay a subscription fee.
	You have to acquire physical equipment.
	You have to install it or set it up or whatever the process is.
	It's not like radio, which is entirely incidental.
	And you can just flip a knob on a piece of equipment that's already built into 99.9% of automobiles that are in operation in this country.
	Radio is a very different phenomenon than satellite radio, which is why when Art initially announced that he was going to be on SiriusXM, I just sort of sighed to myself because I found it to be a disappointment and I didn't feel I didn't have good feelings about what was to come when that announcement was made.
	So George, bottom line, you're not going to sue me.
	No, I'm not going to sue you.
	Well, that's not.
	I mean, but look at this on your what you call your chat room here, right?
	Yes.
	George, I wish you would kill yourself.
	Well, listen, that's not funny.
	George, I mean, anyone who would say that is obviously not credible.
	No, say it.
	Say it.
	They're lowlights.
	Well, I mean, I would never say that to you.
	I find that to be counterproductive.
	I find it to be counterproductive to communicate in that fashion.
	And that's why I feel like those people are sort of the chaff that you separate from the weed.
	Don't worry about that.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hi, it's Norrie's awesome again.
	Hi, Nori's awesome.
	Listen, George, this guy's handle is Nori is awesome.
	What do you think about it?
	He's the guy who loves green women.
	All right.
	Yes.
	Make it quick.
	Make it quick, buddy.
	My ride's waiting outside.
	I literally have to go.
	Okay, I'm going to make it very quick.
	Essentially, like, you had Jimmy Turch on, and you brought him in as a host.
	Oh, yes.
	That's my understanding.
	And he's still in the cycle.
	He's still in the cycle.
	He's still in the cycle.
	But he's never been on since he lost Dark Matter Radio.
	Well, he's been on, I believe he's a better.
	He's a worse host than Lisa Garr.
	He's been on twice, right?
	He's fucking terrible as a host.
	Don't fucking turn it off.
	Do me a favor.
	You're a fucking terrible person.
	Don't use that language, Joe Life.
	Come on.
	Come on, let's go.
	Listen, listen.
	Glow off.
	That's a little bit of a drink.
	Glow off.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You're a fucking friend.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	You're a big tough guy.
	You think you're a soft guy, right?
	You're a shit pop guy.
	And they take control of your son.
	All right, okay.
	Oops.
	Did I know your show sucks?
	Okay, I didn't even try to make the show.
	All right, Nori is awesome.
	I accidentally hung up on George Norrie.
	I didn't mean to.
	I meant to hang up on you, actually, but whatever.
	Okay.
	Well, that's it.
	The show's over.
	Thank you all for playing tonight.
	It's been an immense pleasure.
	I really just hope I don't get sued.
	That's all.
	That's all I'm concerned about.
	I got a little baby on the way.
	You know, I just don't need lawsuits.
	That's all.
	That would be great.
	Please don't sue.
	I'm MV.
	Everyone, mark your calendars, this date, and this time.
	We heard George say in his own words, no sabotage.
	George, is that you?
	Yeah, I didn't hang up on you.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I accidentally did that.
	I was trying to hang up on the caller because he was going ballistic and you can't.
	But your area codes are similar, though, and I made a mistake.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Let's get the callers in here because the callers are.
	Let's just get.
	If they're going to be this way, well, we'll see how it goes.
	Chameleon, hi, you're on the air.
	Go ahead.
	Hey, I just wanted to confirm those six minutes were donatable.
	And I'm glad that George actually did call.
	I mean, I'm not going to.
	Give it to a good cause.
	Give it to MV or buy Art's thing.
	Well, look, man, look, the only reason I opted that is because honestly, I thought whoever, like you, like I've heard earlier, is that multiple people have access to your Skype account.
	So I wasn't sure who was going to call.
	I just hope it got sorted out before the show ended.
	Personally, I don't know the dealings with you in art that we all don't know about.
	So I'm not going to sit here and be like, F you, F this, and F all that.
	But really, though, you need to just let him do his thing.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I endorse what he's doing.
	Believe me.
	Good, good.
	All right, man.
	Well, like I said, just everybody try to chill and get along.
	That's all I'm asking is because, like you said, there is enough room for both of you, obviously.
	But anyway, Chameleon, I think you should buy George's late-night cookbook.
	Chameleon is sort of, I mean, he really should be a diplomat of some sort.
	We should be sending him to Tehran, I believe.
	Really quickly, hi, you're on the air with George Nori.
	Hi, hello.
	Hi, I just wanted to say you guys are great.
	You think so?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	We should do this every Tuesday.
	Well, George, you're on.
	I think on Tuesdays would be not as good as Wednesdays for me.
	What's your word?
	Because I quit my night job.
	I could do this.
	I think you should keep doing your night job.
	Just give me 20% of your income and we'll all be greasy.
	Have a good day.
	Hey, by the way, I hear your wife's Arabic.
	As you know, I am too.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Do any of your family members sleep with a towel around their neck for protection?
	Some of them used to a long, long time ago.
	Well, I still do, sir, and I will continue to do so.
	So, George, you turned your biggest and most vocal detractor on the internet into one of your biggest fans by offering to pay for some of his glasses.
	Yes, I can buy his glasses.
	What can you offer MV and the rest of Belgab for the same treatment?
	Hummus and a little kidney.
	I hate hummus, but thank you.
	That's Arabic to it for people who don't know.
	Hey, George, let's just do some shows and have some good radio.
	Can we shake on that?
	Right.
	Just, you know, here's the important thing.
	I've had to change the show.
	It's not what art used to do, and I'm not who art was.
	You know, in my own right, and I'm going to toot my horn for just a second.
	I'm a different kind of broadcaster.
	I took over a show from a living legend who gave me the opportunity to do something that I never would have had an opportunity to do before.
	I've been doing it now for 12 years.
	I've got six more years to go on my contract.
	I'm obviously doing something right somewhere.
	George, go ahead.
	How much money do you make?
	Oh, well, that I'm not going to disclose.
	Oh, come on.
	Let me tell you this.
	Everybody knows Rush Limbaugh signed a $400 million contract.
	I'm not in that arena.
	Well, why can't we know what you make?
	That's my point.
	Look, I do better than the president.
	How about that?
	Okay, well, so the president makes, what, $800,000 per year?
	No.
	The president of what?
	Tankco.
	Okay.
	Hi, you're on the air with George Norrie.
	Hello.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Come on, let's go.
	What is it?
	Hi, I have a question.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm still hearing the show going.
	I haven't even turned down the volume.
	Turn off your device.
	Turn the line down.
	Okay, forget it.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hello, George.
	I accidentally hung up on.
	Okay, let me end this.
	I accidentally hung up on George bringing that one in.
	Okay, George, are you happy?
	I accidentally hung up on you.
	I don't have a telos here like you do.
	Okay, well, I have to go.
	My ride is literally waiting outside.
	You've got to go and I'll give Jumunda and Redacted 10 more minutes, so then I've got to finish polishing up this program.
	I'm a big Jamunda fan myself.
	That's Jasmunda.
	I was left out of the picture.
	Okay, everybody.
	George, thank you for calling.
	You do have, you know, a pair.
	Maybe three.
	Well, more is better than less.
	We aliens that we are.
	You take care of yourself.
	Well, you are of Arab extraction.
	You know how swarthy those people are.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, we are.
	Yes, we are.
	Okay.
	Everybody, have a good night.
	Thank you, George, for calling in.
	Thanks to everybody in the chat room.
	Thanks to my ride, who's outside waiting for me to take me home because I am entirely intoxicated.
	This is the Gabcast, a podcast about bellgab.com, and we really appreciate everybody's participation in the show tonight.
	We typically come to your way once every two weeks, and we'll see what happens in two weeks from this date.
	I'm Michael Van Diven.
	Also with us tonight, Jasmunda.
	Redacted.
	Owner.
	That's Jamunda.
	Well, you know what?
	I like to keep things official, okay?
	I want to officially change my name on Belgab.
	Well, you post in the appropriate thread requesting to do so, just like everybody else, sir.
	You're not special.
	Anyway, okay, everybody, have a good night.
	Thank you.
	See ya.
	Bye.

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