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27 January, 2015

27 January, 2015 ---------- On this episode... Will Art Bell return to broadcasting in July? We ask that question and more.

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	The Gab Cat, a podcast about bellgab.com.
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	This is the Gabcast.
	This is a podcast about Bellgab.com.
	We have Jasmunda.
	Hi, Jasmunda.
	Hi, MV.
	Redacted, are you able to speak?
	Is your mumble working?
	Oh.
	We should have tested.
	Well, I tested with her before the show, and she wasn't able to get it to work then, but she was tied up with something, so she couldn't continue testing with me.
	It's basically a repeat of last week.
	So, Redacted, yeah, I guess you're going to have to connect through Skype again, like a just like a loser, like an absolute loser.
	And special guest host this evening, my former Spec Sheet co-host, and generally someone who I would say betrayed me, the Mud King.
	Hi, Curtis.
	Hey, what's going on?
	I'm glad to be here because I'm going to talk to how Jasmunda ruined my podcast.
	I'm glad to be on the radio with him again.
	How's it feel to be doing a show with me again after your just indiscriminate betrayal?
	It's terrible.
	I mean, if they would have told me you were going to be here, I wouldn't even have shown up.
	Well, that's why I'm here.
	I'm here.
	Well, that's Curtis, the Mud King, as you may know him at bellgab.com.
	Again, Jasmunda, thank you for being here as well.
	And Redacted is working on figuring out how exactly it is that she's going to connect to us and do this show tonight.
	I really don't understand it.
	As I told you, Redacted, you have to go into the mumble settings and make sure that you have the appropriate input and output device selected.
	And also, we've had problems with mumble, problems in this regard with mumble in the past, and it's been resolved by muting and unmuting yourself, just any number of weird little ways to fix that.
	I don't know what the solution is in your case, though.
	What we're going to have to do, Redacted, is we're going to have to get together.
	We're going to have to get together.
	We're going to have to get together one of these days when we're not doing a show and there's no time limit and we can just sort of figure this whole thing out and get you through on Mumble.
	I mean, especially now because I have this nice, beautiful, additional Scarlet 2i2 sound card, which all of the Mumble co-hosts are coming in on now.
	So there's nothing else I can really do to make things sound great.
	I mean, that is like the last thing I can do.
	All these noise issues I've had over the years.
	It's always like I spend all this money buying all this nice stuff, microphone processors, rebuilding a microphone, mixer, all these things, good cabling.
	And then the co-hosts are coming in over what effectively is a $10 sound card.
	That's the way it's always been.
	So just to fix all of these issues I've incessantly faced over the years, it's just finally time I went ahead and bought a really good sound card.
	So that's why it doubly sucks that Redacted can't connect over mumble because if she connects over Skype, she's not going to be on that same sound card as you guys.
	And audio quality will suffer as a result.
	As a matter of fact, I don't even want to do that.
	I don't even want to do the show now.
	As a matter of fact, I'm that upset about this.
	My OCD is just going to fly off the charts knowing that one of the co-hosts is coming to us through an onboard sound card.
	I really okay.
	Well, that's just something I'm going to have to deal with tonight.
	So, if you want to be on the show, the number to call is 623.
	Hold on, I'm so cotton mouthy.
	I need a sip of coffee 623242 cast.
	That is 623-242-CAST redacted.
	Can you hear me?
	I copy.
	Okay, well, I guess you sound acceptable.
	You know, it'll do.
	But, yeah, a little bit of a disappointment, redacted.
	The audience is upset with you.
	I've tried calming them.
	I've offered them free bellgab bumper stickers, but they really would like you removed from the show as a host.
	So, I don't know.
	I've let everybody down.
	Oh, God.
	There's only so much you can do to calm the peasant rabble.
	And beyond that, you know, you need to grab a pitchfork of your own at some point.
	Gets to that point eventually.
	So, anyway, yeah, if you want to be on the show tonight, the number to call 623-242-CAST.
	That is 623-242-CAST.
	I wonder how many listeners we have right now.
	I'm going to take a look at that just out of curiosity.
	Well, the server's maxed out.
	So, obviously, everyone listening right now clearly thinks there's some possibility Art Bell may call into the show tonight.
	And that's the only reason we have this many listeners.
	Don't worry, the more they hear my voice, the more it'll go down.
	Well, Jasmunda, you sent him the required cockpits and the other various items that we have to send all of our potential guests.
	So, I would think that that's going to get the job done.
	That comment right there probably just put the kibosh on the whole thing.
	Okay, well, that's great.
	I just blew it for everybody.
	No, you sent him numerous emails, right?
	I did.
	Is there a delay?
	Do we have a delay on Mumble here?
	I don't think I can tell.
	Oh my god.
	Not that he can tell.
	10 seconds later.
	Fuck me.
	You people calling.
	You people doing this show over Macs.
	Are you on a Mac right now, Jasmunda?
	We'll wait 10 seconds for our answer.
	No, I am on a Mac.
	I tell you what, I listen to a lot of podcasts that have audio problems when co-hosts are connecting over a Mac.
	And I'm just coming to the conclusion that...
	That's because you're not listening on a Mac.
	Uh...
	You know what, Curtis?
	I'm in no mood.
	I'm just in no mood.
	I've heard a lot of podcasts where co-hosts are coming in over Macs and there are just issue after issue repeatedly.
	It just seems like the Mac is not a good platform for doing this sort of thing.
	I mean, is that am I wrong?
	Like, there was this effect that how ironic would that be?
	The platform that created podcasts can't work with podcasts.
	Well, it's not so much that as it is there's something weird about how OSX manages audio in VoIP conferences.
	And this is a bug that I don't know if it's even been fixed, but it used to be that when I would listen to Leo Laporte's podcasts, there would be co-hosts who would regularly, if they're going to do the show with him, they would do it over a Mac with a headset connected.
	And there was some weird bug where if you were doing Skype on a Mac for 60 minutes or more, your voice would suddenly turn into this Darth Vader sounding thing.
	And it would happen to everyone.
	Yeah, like there was a buffer issue.
	This is something, some issue.
	Who knows?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	But I'm kind of wondering if that's ever been fixed.
	But okay, Jasmunda, do you think we still have a big delay here?
	I never thought we did have a delay.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we do.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll just suffer through it.
	I hate that shit.
	Why is it there's always got to be some issue.
	We just can't quite nail this thing down.
	You know what I mean?
	And you know, Jasmunda, when you and I talked earlier, there was none of that.
	It was dead on, full duplex, real-time, no issues at all.
	I don't know why now that it actually counts.
	I think we have to blame.
	I think we have to blame Curtis because he's the only variable that's different.
	I agree.
	He should hang up.
	Well, also, the only other variable that's different is the fact that it actually matters right now because people are listening.
	But, you know, why should we care about that?
	That's okay.
	Well, I don't know what we can do about it.
	I don't even know why it's happening.
	Curtis, I wonder if maybe the machine I'm using is the mumble server just isn't fast enough to keep up.
	What CPU does it have?
	Is it a seller on?
	It's a piece of crap.
	It really is.
	But, I mean, this machine doesn't have to do that much.
	Is it full of dust?
	Well.
	I require every podcast I'm a part of is using a server that's full of dust and grossness.
	Well, I went to Walmart and they have a pouch you can buy, and it just says dust in black lettering on a white background.
	And I always pour that in because it doesn't feel.
	It's called Arts.
	It's Arts Dust Punch.
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	But anyway, that was a swing and a miss.
	But it's, yeah, I don't feel like it's a server until I've just added some level of dust to the box.
	But anyway, so yeah, we're all here primarily tonight because I think a lot of people are suspecting Art may call into the show.
	And if he does, that would be wonderful.
	Is it true that nobody's heard from Art publicly, like his voice, since he was on the Gabcast back in, what was it, November 2013?
	As far as I know, he posted a video to Facebook.
	Other than that, though.
	It wasn't interactive.
	You know, that's what scares me, not so much the idea of Art not coming back.
	What scares me is that he decides not to come back and he just sort of sails into the sunset and his last appearance is on the gabcast.
	That's not a fitting into a career.
	That's not a career such as his.
	You know, that's not the way I want to see things end.
	I don't want that to be the case.
	So, Art, if you're listening, for that reason alone, you have to come back.
	Just so that from an official standpoint, we can say that that was in fact not your last appearance.
	Is anybody else troubled by that?
	Although at least you'll be a trivia question.
	Yeah, Curtis, Jasmunda, can you disconnect and reconnect?
	That mumble delay is just going to screw the whole show.
	He does.
	Well, I wonder if it's a problem with me, too, because I feel like we're talking over each other a lot.
	You're talking over him, but that's because of the delay.
	Well, even you.
	Really?
	Maybe it's just I'm out of practice.
	Curtis, you need to practice speaking.
	You've really not very good at it.
	You've really not kept up.
	Okay, Jasmunda says he just closed mumbling.
	You go weeks and weeks.
	Okay, Jasmunda, did you actually disconnect from the server?
	Yeah, I did.
	Okay, well, that seems a lot better now.
	Okay, Curtis, say something.
	Okay, I cannot hear Jasmunda if he's speaking.
	Oh, my God.
	We're doing well.
	He's kidding me.
	This feels like a spec sheet episode.
	Thank you so much for coming.
	No, no.
	The spec sheet episode went off almost flawlessly relative to this.
	This is a train wreck compared to anything that ever happened on that show.
	It's because you've upgraded.
	Jasmunda, can you hear Curtis?
	Curtis, can you hear him?
	I can hear Curtis fine.
	I cannot hear him.
	Oh, my God.
	You've got to be kidding me.
	Okay.
	Are we going to wind up doing this whole show on Skype?
	All of us?
	Let me disconnect and see if it makes any difference.
	Holy Christ.
	Okay, we'll see what happens.
	Should I just edit this whole part of the show out?
	You know, I'm of the philosophy that you can't do that.
	You just sort of have to.
	I mean, it's a record of what happened, is what the recording is.
	So, yeah, whatever happened happened.
	Sue us.
	It's a live broadcast.
	I hesitate to say radio.
	It's not live radio, but we can pretend it is.
	It's what we come in here and do every week.
	Pretend we have a radio show and that someone actually is interested in listening to it.
	So we'll see what happens here.
	Curtis is going to reconnect.
	Now Jasmunda says he can't hear anything.
	We're going to have to send you to Aldous's compound for stress relief after this.
	Okay.
	I tell you what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to.
	I'm going to actually kill the mumble server.
	And then I'm going to have everybody reconnect to it.
	Where is, well, is that even?
	See, this is what you really want to be doing during a show.
	Murmur.
	There it is.
	Okay.
	Okay, it shows jazz muted for me.
	Okay, I'm going to actually kill Murmur, Curtis, and restart it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Are you.
	Yes.
	Okay, Curtis, are you still there?
	I am.
	Okay, why am I still hearing you?
	I shouldn't be.
	I just killed Murmur.
	It's in its system tray.
	No, it's gone.
	Is it running as a service?
	Not unless you configure it like that.
	I mean, you'd have to explicitly try to make it a service.
	I'm just, I'm with you everywhere.
	You might not have realized it, but everywhere you go, I'm that red-headed guy standing there staring at you.
	Okay, I tell you what we're going to do.
	This machine that is handling the stream and handling the chat room and handling murmur, which all of us are using to be able to hear one another, it hasn't been restarted in probably three weeks.
	So I'm kind of thinking maybe that I should just restart this machine and we should restart the show.
	Are you saying that you want to quit?
	Curtis, I didn't hear what you said there, but I'm not going to ask you to repeat it.
	I just have a feeling.
	Couldn't plan.
	Okay.
	So the stream's going to go down.
	Everything's going to go down.
	And then it's all going to come back up.
	The chat room will go down.
	Everything will die until this machine restarts.
	So I'm going to stop talking now and wait about 10 seconds and then restart everything.
	Fuck, Justin Bieber.
	Okay, test one, two.
	Okay, we are on the stream.
	So careful what you say.
	Okay, is everybody there?
	Spun on the console.
	No, I wasn't muted at all.
	There you are.
	Curtis.
	Okay, can you hear you?
	Yes, I do.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Yeah, I can hear you.
	Do we need to do the count test?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, so like count to three and then I say three when you do.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, let's do that.
	You guys both say three.
	We'll do five, and you guys say five exactly when I do.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Five.
	Curtis, what the fuck are you saying?
	I heard you say five.
	You got me.
	Oh, my God.
	You guys really suck.
	Let's not plan to go running from exploding buildings.
	Yeah, let's bring that spec sheet show back as soon as we can.
	I don't know why, but lethal weapons popped into my head there.
	Let's make that happen.
	Okay, now let's see if the chat room is functional.
	This is my weapons popped into my head there.
	I think the chat room appears.
	Okay.
	But I can't hear anyone else.
	What?
	You can't hear anybody else what?
	I think Curtis is the problem.
	Where did he go?
	He was just there.
	It must be because I hear you and no one else now.
	You hear who?
	There's three of us.
	Or two of us.
	Well, three.
	Curtis, can you hear me apparently?
	Can you hear MV?
	No.
	You can't hear MV.
	No.
	I'll go ahead and disconnect and let you guys do your thing.
	Curtis couldn't hear me before, and then I muted and unmuted.
	He then could hear me, but now it appears that he can't hear you, MV.
	It must be mumble for Mac is my build is having problems.
	Man.
	MV's head is going to explode the night.
	It's over.
	Your Macs really eat my taint.
	I have to say.
	Okay.
	It's kind of fun to just listen to you.
	I'll stay on.
	Okay.
	Tell Curtis.
	What's he going to do?
	Is he just going to sit here fucking things up, or is he going to try and fix it?
	Curtis, did you hear MV then?
	No, I didn't.
	So he said, what are you going to do?
	Are you just going to sit there and fuck things up for the rest of us?
	Yes.
	Are you going to do something to fix it?
	Okay, disconnecting.
	Enjoy the show.
	Oh, my.
	We've lost the Mud King.
	And I lost the IRC connect.
	What the hell is going on here?
	Now the IRC server doesn't work.
	Test test S123.
	Okay, that is up.
	This is up.
	Why is that happening?
	Well, I tell you what.
	Well, they hear you.
	They're in the chat room.
	CatSmile says he hears you.
	Yeah, I know they hear me.
	Okay.
	I mean, the stream encoder is working.
	Okay.
	And they hear you too, of course.
	I can't get the...
	No, I can't get the chat room either.
	Oh, now I'm back in.
	Okay, well, we're still maxed out with 50 of 50 listeners.
	You're back in the chat room, Jasmunda?
	Yeah, I'm back in the chat room now, finally.
	Okay.
	Let's go ahead and take this call.
	Hi.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hey, guys.
	What's going on?
	Hey, is this B-Dub?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so the was that a deliberate delay or are you with me?
	What is this?
	I don't know what's going on right now, man.
	Are you able to hear me?
	It's like I'm hearing myself feeding back on myself, and I'm hearing stuff I said like a couple minutes ago and stuff you said a couple minutes ago.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Are you saying on Daniel Radio?
	Are you saying on this Skype call right now you're hearing that from this Skype call?
	Or are you listening to my stream?
	Peter's volume is turned off.
	I'm hearing myself talk to myself right now, but it's something I said.
	Oh, I know why.
	I know why.
	I know why.
	That's gone now, right?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Glad I wasn't on any kind of hallucinogenics when that was happening.
	Oh, my God.
	That was freaky.
	It seems like it stopped, which is, yeah, it stopped.
	But I still can't get into the chat room.
	Well, the chat room, I'm looking at the chat room right now.
	But it's like, and now I'm talking again from the past.
	Okay, it's gone now.
	Yeah, so it's like the stream isn't working, but the chat is.
	The stream isn't working, but the chat is?
	That's what I'm seeing on my browser right now.
	The stream is working.
	For me, it seems the stream is working and the chat's not.
	Oh, my God.
	This is a pile of shit.
	I think I'm just going to go home.
	This is such fucked up.
	Nonsense.
	I have a mumble server at Rackspace I can fire up if that helps you.
	Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt.
	But I don't know that that's necessarily the issue, though.
	And you guys had issues in the past even when using that, didn't you?
	Well, I think the issue that we had in the past with the data.
	Was that a delay there, or did you just wait to speak?
	I just waited to speak.
	Oh, my God.
	B-Dub, what the fuck are you doing to me?
	I'm just trying to give you a heart attack.
	No, so the problem we had with that server before was probably due to my microphone and not the server.
	But you guys see the chat room right now?
	Yeah.
	I do not understand that.
	Okay, let me.
	I see it.
	It's ticking right along.
	Curtis in the chat room has suggested that we call Keith Rell instead.
	Okay, now I'm in.
	Now I'm in.
	Sure, he'd be willing to help us.
	Okay, do you guys want to start the show?
	Yeah, but I don't.
	You feel like we're ready?
	Jasmoon, do you hear me?
	And you hear Redacted right?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, and Redacted, did you hear both of us?
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	Okay, I guess we'll start the show.
	All right.
	See a B-W.
	Oh, my God.
	This is okay.
	Here we go.
	The Gabcast, a podcast about belgab.com.
	Visit ufoshift.com for live streaming and chat.
	This is the Gapcast.
	And the Gabcast is a podcast about BellGab.com.
	And if you'd like to be on the show tonight, the number to call is 623-242-CAST.
	It is 623-242-CAST.
	If I sound like I have a little sand in my vajayjay, that's because we just spent the last 30 minutes trying to figure out why we can't get anything to work here.
	So, yeah, for those of you listening live, wow, must that have been entertaining for you.
	And for those of you listening to the downloaded version of the show, had I not said anything, you'd have no idea any of that occurred, which is maybe why I shouldn't have said anything.
	I don't know.
	That's sort of a rule of broadcasting.
	They always teach you.
	If something went wrong, don't even acknowledge it.
	Don't even talk about it.
	Just move on.
	Yeah, you threw a C-bomb when you meant to say police chief.
	You know, just let it go.
	Move on.
	Nobody will notice as long as you don't address it.
	That's apparently what broadcasters taught themselves at some point in the past, and they continue to believe it.
	Anyway, yeah, that number to be on the show, 623-242-CAST, 623-242-CAST.
	Jasmunda's here.
	Hi there.
	Hi.
	We really showed up how to run a professional operation.
	Yeah, well, you know, the thing that really is demoralizing, the thing that depresses me so is the fact that both you and I, Jazz Munda, showed up here, what, a couple hours before the show, like good boys, to test and make sure everything is in working order to be responsible broadcasters.
	And everything tested out just fine.
	And so we moved on past that.
	And here we are.
	We start the show.
	Nothing works.
	Nothing.
	Absolutely nothing worked.
	We had like a 10-second delay with Jazz Munda.
	Jazz Munda, the Mud King, Curtis Thornton from the spec sheet, he was going to do the show with us.
	And he's having mumble issues.
	So he's not even here.
	I was really looking forward to having Curtis here.
	And it really sucks that it's technical matters that are going to prevent him from being here.
	Unless Curtis wants to call in through Skype, as Redacted is doing.
	Hi, Redacted.
	Hello.
	You could do that, Curtis, if you're listening.
	I'm assuming you have the Gabcast Skype account on your contact list there.
	Just do a Skype call to us through that, and we can put you on.
	There's no reason why not.
	Yeah, Fear Boys with Bugs in the chat room says that's what happened when you use Apple Products MV.
	And see, it seems to me that there's some level of truth there because every time we have issues, it's when either of you is using a Mac.
	At least that seems to be the common denominator to me.
	That's the only thing I can really pin down.
	And I know that Macs do have issues doing voice over internet.
	I've seen, there was an issue that I mentioned in the false start that we started a little while ago.
	There was an issue where if you were using Skype on a Mac and the call exceeded like 60 minutes, suddenly there would be this, they called it a Cylon effect.
	And you would start hearing all of this crazy distortion and you would actually have to either restart the computer or you would have to restart Skype.
	I can't recall what the solution was.
	Curtis, are you there?
	Yes, I am.
	Okay, well, I guess you're here at least.
	You know, we can at least enjoy this on some level, you know, if not with the pristine audio quality I had hoped to deliver to the audience tonight.
	At least you're here in some way.
	Yeah, I'm just, I'm so proud to say that I brought down the Gabcast with Mumble.
	We don't really know that to be the case, though.
	Let me look and see.
	I'm going to take a look at this stream box, the machine that runs Mumble and the machine that runs the chat room and the machine that streams this show to you.
	Let's see what kind of processor is in here.
	It's a Pentium E2160.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	You know, this machine was given to me by a customer.
	And so I thought, what better thing to do with it than use it for this purpose?
	But maybe.
	I've got a Raspberry Pi you could use.
	Oh, come on.
	Let's not get silly here.
	I mean, surely this is enough to handle this, don't you think?
	I would think so.
	I was running it on a virtual machine always.
	Yeah, I mean, three gigs of RAM.
	The CPU is clocked at 1.8 gigahertz.
	Dual core.
	Yeah, I can't imagine how that's not enough to handle all of this.
	I mean, I guess a faster CPU couldn't hurt, but I don't really think that's a good idea.
	I'm getting kind of tired of spending cash and all this shit.
	Yes.
	To be a little bit honest with you.
	So wait, are you saying that in July you might not be doing the show because of the costs incurred to produce a podcast?
	Curtis, I don't know what you're trying to communicate there, but just dates.
	I need to know.
	I think there's a little sarcasm being injected into that question you just asked.
	I really hope you are in July broadcasting a podcast successfully.
	Well, hopefully I'm not the only one who is.
	I know I'm in a room full of unbelievers here, but I blame this on Mercury retrograde.
	Why?
	Because Mercury is retrograde and it affects communications.
	Everything gets fucky when Mercury's in retrograde.
	Didn't you know that?
	Such language.
	I don't understand.
	Yeah.
	Well, that might explain a lot.
	Not going to explain this entire day for me then.
	Yeah, I don't get the Mercury retrograde thing.
	Is this akin to sunspots?
	Is that what you're, I mean, I don't know.
	It's astrology, right?
	Yeah, it's astrology.
	And whenever Mercury goes in retrograde, all the communications and travel, you'll just run into all kinds of problems.
	Let's talk about that for a minute.
	Astrology.
	Do you really believe in it?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what evidence do you have to prove that?
	Because I'm interested.
	And of course, with all the topics that art would get into and we've talked about on the forum over time, I'd like to know what was that moment, your aha moment, where you're like, astrology actually does define the rules of my life and what's going to happen tomorrow.
	Because everybody has something they believe in, and there's a moment that you connect the two together where it's like Ai Ching or things like that.
	So what was your aha moment?
	Well, it's a good question.
	It wasn't just one aha moment.
	It was so many in a row that I had to go, wait a minute, this is actually having an effect.
	I do not want to believe that the position of the planets has any effect on my tiny, insignificant life.
	But it seems like whenever there's weird things like Mercury's in retrograde, it does affect communications and travel.
	If the stars are just right, then things go good.
	When the stars aren't right, then things aren't happening that I want to happen.
	And this happened so many times in a row that I kind of went, all right, okay, I guess this is true.
	Reluctantly, I was not excited to believe it.
	Okay, I can accept that because going into it skeptically makes more sense than just being in a belief system that you're raised in.
	And so you just you blindly follow it.
	That's cool.
	Hippie.
	Well, how about Jaz and the MV?
	What do you guys think of astrology?
	And sorry to just take over all of a sudden, but it's a little upsetting.
	I have to say, it's a little upsetting.
	Well, sometimes I just have to do that.
	I think it's bullshit.
	I really don't see any correlation between any of it and reality.
	I think we live in an entirely random universe.
	Isn't that depressing, though, to think?
	Of course it is.
	It's very depressing.
	Depressing.
	It has a lot of implications.
	I mean, does that mean there's no God or does it mean that God simply created everything, whatever God is defined as by you, the listener, and he spun the globe and then hands off walked away?
	Is that what it means?
	And if there is a God, well, I'm not so sure he sounds like such a swell guy based on what all the religious texts have to say about him.
	He sounds kind of like he's never really in a great mood.
	But would you be if you were an all-knowing, all-seeing, powerful deity?
	That would be a tough job.
	Well, I do know that if I were an all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful, omnipotent deity and I created atomic weights and I created the interaction between protons and neutrons and electrons that comprise all the substances that we see and touch.
	I'm probably not going to get all that been out of shape if some guy happens to watch a few minutes of Internet porno.
	That's the thing I always had problems with where religion is concerned.
	It's this notion that God is responsible for all of this incomprehensibly complex minutiae that we're surrounded by, yet at the same time, he's wrapped up in these little things like whether someone's wearing their hijab properly or whether someone is, I don't know, putting up the right decorations at Christmas time.
	I just.
	Yeah, I have a hard time believing that too, that that would be what they would stress with.
	Or like with sports, when athletes on both sides pray to God for a good game, and then it's as if God cares about what happened in that specific game.
	Like he has money on it.
	Well, we all do know that God does favor certain sports teams, though.
	Anyone who doubts that, you've never been on the sports team.
	Are the Patriots one of those teams?
	I don't know enough about sports to say anything witty about that.
	You forgot the deflate gate, though, right?
	With footballs being deflated.
	I've heard about it in passing, but trust me, it's all you want to know about it.
	I've been way too immersed in it.
	Well, I've been hearing people say that the news is just inundated with people talking about that, but I guess because I don't have cable TV or satellite TV, I think that shelters me from a lot of the stuff that people otherwise are being conditioned to listen to.
	Yeah, you're probably better off for it because when I think about something like whether balls are inflated correctly on a sports game is leading the news, what is it that they're not telling us about behind the scenes?
	That would be cynical, Curtis.
	So sad.
	Thank you.
	I'm interested in something that was posted in the chat room.
	What's your astrological sign, Michael?
	Scorpio.
	Scorpio.
	That means I want to screw everything that moves is what that means.
	Is it?
	Wow.
	It tells me what that comes down to.
	It's just everywhere I go, you see a used bounty, a paper towel.
	It's just, that's apparently what Scorpio means, supposedly.
	I just bang everything.
	Well, that reminds me.
	I need to say congratulations, don't I?
	Speaking of your sign, I guess.
	Why?
	You're having another child, right?
	Oh, no.
	I don't know where you heard that.
	You're not.
	Okay, well, never mind then.
	That is bullshit.
	It is that.
	And they should take it.
	Well, Jazz, what do you think?
	Moving on then.
	Well, I think that I can read any of the horoscopes in a magazine or a newspaper and sort of retrospectively, based on whatever's happened to me in the past week, make it somehow any of them match up with what happened in my life.
	So I don't put too much stock in what the horoscopes say.
	So then you take the point of view that you make your own, you create your own fortune and future?
	Well, I would hope so.
	I would hate to.
	I think that my life is free.
	Yeah.
	I mean, contacted, when you read a horoscope, are you like literally looking at that and assigning any amount of credibility to that?
	Well, it affects 1 12th of the entire population of the Earth.
	So sometimes it looks like it applies to me and other times it doesn't.
	And sometimes I just kind of look at it as sort of, I don't know, looking at the temperature just to get a sort of gauge on what I might expect for the day.
	Sometimes those things come into play and other times they don't.
	Most of the time they do.
	It just seems to me if you look at, I mean, some guy or some girl sat down with a pen and wrote this thing out and then submitted it to an editor who then reviewed it and said, okay, go ahead and print this.
	And I just, I can't get over the process of that.
	Do you know how a chart is drawn up?
	No.
	Okay.
	I will say this, though.
	I mean, I've looked at horoscopes and gone through each of the different signs and read each one and said, yes, this could apply to me.
	Yes, this could apply to me.
	Yes, this and this.
	So you're saying you don't know what you want to be then?
	I'm saying that they are written in such a way as to be applicable to just about anybody.
	Purposely vague.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a chart that's drawn up and then you're depending on the interpretation of the astrologer.
	So you need a good astrologer to interpret the chart for the day to give you accurate information.
	Now, I have a question because I don't know a lot about astrology, but did it start with astronomy?
	Are they both based in the very beginning in something together?
	And then they obviously veer two different directions where one takes faith versus the scientific method at some point.
	Is there some kind of shared history between the two?
	There is.
	It all started with just the study of the stars.
	And, gosh, it's been such a day.
	Let me just think about this for a second.
	Astrology is so old, people don't even really know the origin of the 12 signs.
	That's how old it is.
	And people have been studying the placement of the stars and the effects of the ages.
	You know, about the astrological ages of eons and all that.
	It affects us.
	But then, like you say, the science came in and the two just sort of veered apart.
	And people continued to study astrology and why the positions of the planets affect us in different ways.
	And then other people just went on to study the science and mapping of the solar system and the stars and the planets.
	See, that's interesting.
	I'm going to have to research more into that.
	So essentially, this all stems from a time when people had no reasonable way to explain the forces surrounding them.
	But here's the critical question, though.
	Have you applied astrology to Art Bell and what his future might be?
	I haven't ran a chart on it yet.
	No, but I will if you change it.
	So you know this much.
	I mean, you could actually sit down and okay.
	I mean, just that you know the term write up a chart tells me.
	Yeah, I know what an ephemeris is and all that good stuff.
	Oh, my.
	I'll bet you have little wind chasers and all kinds of stuff like that hanging around your apartment, don't you?
	No, but I do have a bullshit.
	You're telling me there's not a wind chaser in that joint?
	Come on.
	Not a one.
	Not a one.
	Or no, I'm sorry.
	Wind catcher.
	Is it a dream?
	I'm sorry, Dreamcatcher.
	I nori'd that up, didn't I?
	Wow.
	My goodness.
	Speaking of Nori, I had a moment of synchronicity today.
	Dream Chaser.
	What a fag.
	Go ahead.
	Was that a movie by Stephen King?
	Or was that Dreamcatcher?
	Dreamcatcher.
	Okay.
	That was one of the most uncomfortable movies ever to watch that had a sci-fi spin to it.
	Okay, so I had this weird synchronicity that kind of I feel fits into a conversation about the potential connectedness or not of the world.
	I'm at the doctor.
	It's so dumb that I had to, I mean, it just not left my mind since it happened.
	But I'm at the doctor's office today, and it just so happens that the room I'm in has a theme of cats all throughout us.
	So he's got pictures of cats, like internet memes.
	And that's supposed to alleviate my anxiety.
	Really?
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	You're showing me pictures of this animal that shits in a box in my house and tracks kitty litter everywhere and hair and generally decreases the enjoyability of my home by about 20%.
	Yeah, that'll help as I'm waiting to be probed.
	Continue.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So I'm looking at all the different cat pictures and there's a little promo for some osteoporosis medication.
	And it has a lady who clearly is an actress named, I think it was Bethany Danvers.
	And I recognize her, but I can't think of where it is I know her from.
	And so I'm trying to think, you know, was she, was it, what movie was she in?
	I can't think of her TV show.
	Well, fast forward a couple hours later, and I'm on IMDb looking up the cast of the new Ghostbusters movie that's coming out, which I'm very deflated about.
	And hopefully we can.
	Did Bill Murray decide to be in that?
	I doubt it.
	No, he wants nothing to do with Ghostbusters.
	If it doesn't have him, it's not a Ghostbusters movie.
	MV, you'll be horrified when you find out what the actual movie is going to be.
	You mean plot-wise?
	Well, not even plot-wise.
	Character actors slash character-wise.
	It's an all-female cast.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	So they're going to make jokes about periods and their boobs bouncing and trying to fit their womanly parts into the uniform.
	Is that what we're going to do?
	That might save the movie.
	Ectoplasm.
	It's a fair.
	Well.
	Yeah, they're running around dripping the ectoplasm all over their faces.
	And some of the cast members swallow it and some of them don't.
	That's not ectoplasm.
	Some of them are like they're ectoplasm dodgers.
	They really just don't want it.
	Okay.
	In the second Ghostbusters, the one that can be forgotten or marketing part two, it was all about how you felt when you were around the ectoplasm.
	So if you feel good around it, good things will happen.
	Or did it make you feel bad?
	I'm trying to remember.
	I thought it, did it amplify emotions or did it make you negative?
	Are you asking me?
	Do you remember the second Ghostbusters?
	The one that was all about marketing?
	Exactly.
	It was Ghostbusters 2 marketing continues.
	Was it?
	I mean, I don't understand the marketing reference there.
	They only did it for money, and they all admitted it.
	Like, the cast pretty much said they had no interest in the script, but the money that was being thrown at them was so large that they just did it anyway.
	You know how much my life sucks?
	I was looking through my DVD collection the other day, which is, by the way, something that I'm more and more infrequently even aware of the fact that I have.
	But I'm looking through there and I see, oh, hey, Ghostbusters.
	Oh, it's Ghostbusters 2.
	So I have Ghostbusters 2 in my DVD library and not the first one.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	Okay.
	You're such a loser.
	And that means since it's a physical DVD, that means I actually at some point thought this is an investment I'm willing to make.
	Here's $14 for a dead dinosaur juice disc containing Ghostbusters 2 when I don't even have part one yet.
	That's great.
	That's what I've spent my money on over the years.
	So you can understand why I'm a little upset about having to pay for all this audio equipment now.
	I don't quite have the financial resources I should at this age is what I'm telling you.
	All because of the bullshit DVDs I bought over these years.
	My God, if I could have all that money back.
	You need to go to the record store and trade those in for half price, get some new ones.
	I think you get like, I think you get like 50 cents per DVD.
	Probably.
	I mean, it's something just so paltry, it's insulting.
	I mean, I can understand why.
	I mean, they're going to resell it for not a whole lot more.
	And they do have a power bill to pay.
	I understand that.
	But I think there are much better ways to get money out of the stuff you own.
	Just keep your DVDs.
	Don't get rid of them.
	I don't know why.
	Don't even bother.
	Just sell your bicycle or something.
	Sell other things.
	Sell your couch.
	I don't know.
	Something made of metal.
	Something that you'll actually get money for.
	DVDs?
	No.
	Don't even bother yourself.
	So, yeah, we've got a lot of listeners tonight.
	And it certainly can't be because of the content we've been delivering because, I mean, it's, you know, 30 minutes into the show.
	We didn't even have a show with the false start.
	And now here we are, and everything seems to be at least working acceptably well.
	And I think the biggest thing that has drawn a lot of people to the show tonight is the possibility that Art Bell, it is thought, might call in just because he recently posted on Bellgab.
	And Jasmunda told me he just incessantly was sending email after email after email to Art, including any number of, you know, which images that could be in certain jurisdictions considered inappropriate.
	Well, if two emails is incessantly, then I emailed the fuck out of him.
	Well, I was told that it was three emails per minute for the last 24 hours.
	But, you know, it's like the telephone game.
	You know, things go from one person to the next, and the next thing you know, Jasmunda's an astronaut.
	It's just, that's not a good way to communicate.
	But anyway, so there was the thought that Art may call in tonight.
	And so that's largely responsible for the fact that we have so many listeners tonight.
	And so he may or may not.
	I'm more leaning toward the he won't camp just because he's, well, probably not going to, but we'll see what happens.
	But I mean, the fact of the matter is he recently posted and the post that he submitted at Bellgab seems to indicate that if you're holding out for something to happen in July, You might want to just take a deep breath and think again.
	And let me find the post here.
	Actually, I had that up.
	I've got it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Well, I think the first part of it, he just talks about how he didn't miss any shows from his back or spiderbites.
	And then he mentioned how he still got the flu.
	But what's really pertinent about the actual post was the third point where he said, if I decide to take a run at streaming, it will be free while live, as I've always said.
	And this would be in July after his non-compete is over.
	But the big thing about that is the if in capital letters.
	I'm just going to read this.
	There may be, it's not that long, and there may be some people who haven't seen it.
	If you have, please forgive me.
	Hi again, it's been a long time since I've posted.
	First, I did not miss any shows for SiriXM save for one.
	When the studio in New York went down, none missed for my back or the spider bite.
	Is that true?
	Well, someone posted the other day that he actually did miss a show due to a bad back, but that's just semantics.
	So what's the deal with the spider bite, though?
	I thought he did miss a show because of spiderbite.
	I thought he did too.
	That was my recollection too, but I don't have any information to back that up.
	Not that I'm trying to call art out or anything.
	Let's all sit here for the next 30 minutes and pontificate over whether Art had a spiderbite.
	Wasn't a spider.
	What a collection of virgins we all are.
	Just a little bit of a drink.
	What type of spider do you think it might have been?
	I remember he did have a spider bite.
	Whether he missed the show or not, I don't know, but I don't think that matters.
	I was in Morocco puking my guts up at the time.
	I was in America puking my guts up too because Hostgator was failing.
	Art continues.
	Second, if I do, second, I do still have the flu and have had a bad back since I was in my 20s.
	Sometimes it is okay, and at other times I cannot walk.
	Only people with bad backs can possibly understand.
	Third, if in caps, I decide to take a run at streaming, it'll be free while live, as I have always said.
	This would be in July after my non-compete is over.
	This is a shift in approach to this whole topic.
	This huge sentence here.
	I mean, it has been written in stone since Art conceded that he was not going to pursue the non-compete legally, pursue overturning it.
	Since he decided that, it has been written in stone to everyone's knowledge that there is definitely going to be a show in July.
	And that's all been turned on its head with this one sentence.
	If I decide to take a run at streaming, it'll be free while live, as I've always said.
	This would be in July after my no-compete is over.
	It would also be at my own expense and require a considerable investment.
	Okay.
	I can assure you, I do not have Art Bell money or anything even reasonably close to it.
	And so that said, I have managed to podcast since 2006, early 2006.
	And with all of the equipment I've purchased, which is considerable, I mean, I do have nice equipment.
	With all the money I've spent on stream hosting in order for people to be able to actually hear what it is we're doing, with all of that spent, I can't even imagine that I've exceeded $1,000 from 2006 until now.
	And as witnessed tonight, that's worked out really well.
	Jasmunda, you know what?
	I really am feeling very vulnerable at the moment.
	So if you could just, you know, But seriously, I mean, when everything's working correctly here, Art's not going to be doing a show with remote hosts.
	So that eliminates one layer of complexity altogether.
	I mean, if I didn't have to connect to you guys and you guys didn't have to sound good, that eliminates a lot of complexity right there.
	Art doesn't have to deal with that.
	He only has to be able to take callers and get himself on the air.
	To pull that off, there's nothing to that.
	I mean, there's absolutely nothing to that, not in terms of the equipment costs and not in terms of the services he's going to need to purchase in order for people to be able to hear the show.
	In other words, stream hosting.
	There are just almost no costs associated with any of that.
	So I don't really understand the statement.
	Really quick in the chat room.
	Fear Boys with Bugs has a funny comment.
	MV is the 99 cent store for podcast hosts.
	Well, you know, again, I'm very vulnerable tonight.
	That's why I thought you should hear that.
	And, you know, no matter what anybody says, it is going to be felt by me.
	So know that you are affecting me with these comments.
	We've got a call coming in.
	I'll go ahead and take this call here just because we so rarely get calls.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Who's this?
	This is Michael.
	Who's this?
	Hey, Michael.
	It's Wildcard.
	Hi there.
	How are you?
	I'm good, man.
	That's good to hear from you.
	I don't know if I've ever heard your voice before.
	It's always, as I say, it's always interesting to put a voice to people's screen names.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Did you hear that current chime call before you came on?
	It was like three shows ago.
	I do recall several, a few times that she called in.
	Yeah.
	We're just kind of talking about what psychic ability is.
	And oh man, said something like, you know, most really good psychics can be excellent psychiatrists and psychologists, you know.
	But, geez, I had a point there.
	I totally forgot what the point of that was.
	What was I trying to say?
	What was I trying to say?
	Let me look at my paperwork.
	Maybe you shouldn't drink before coming on the air.
	Jasmine, that's a little forward there.
	No, I wish I could use that as an excuse.
	Oh, wow.
	It's even worse.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't need help.
	Well, so you were calling, you were talking about Redacted and her astrology stuff.
	Oh, no, I'm not hearing the stream.
	I've been listening to K-Meet since the thing went down.
	But your reason for calling at this moment was because you wanted to comment on something Redacted said about the astrology?
	No.
	Okay, psychic ability and general.
	No, what are you saying about astrology?
	No, what are you saying about it?
	Yeah, that's bullshit.
	Hey, let's do this.
	Let's start over.
	Thank you for calling the GabCast.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Who's this?
	This is Wildcard.
	Hey, man.
	It's awesome to hear from you.
	What's going on, buddy?
	Yeah, what are you calling about?
	Yeah, what's it called?
	Seriously, I'm calling about that I'm not listening to the stream right now.
	I'm listening to K-Meet.
	Well, why are you?
	So you're basically calling so you can hear the show.
	No, I can't hear it on the phone.
	You know that.
	Well, what do you think about K-Meet?
	Is it a little too 80s-heavy for you?
	I don't know.
	Like I said, it was enough to distract me from listening to the Gabcast.
	So you're telling me my friend's internet radio station is encroaching upon my whole operation here.
	Is that what you're telling me?
	Exactly.
	He is within driving distance.
	Good.
	Put out a hit on him.
	Well, either then or I can just go to his home and there's a switch outside where you can shut off the main power to the home.
	I think that would address some of these issues.
	What is Redacted saying about astrology?
	She's a believer.
	Yeah, she's a believer.
	Huh?
	Yeah, she's a believer.
	Are you?
	No, not except like in.
	Am I too loud?
	No, you're fine.
	Just go ahead.
	You're fine.
	Not except like in the Alan Watts sense that, yeah, everything is connected.
	Everything affects everything.
	Sure.
	But in the sense that astrologers really have anything figured out, nah.
	Redacted, you're going to take that?
	No, that's a bunch of bullshit.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm messing with you.
	It's all cool.
	It's all cool.
	I have studied it for, God, I don't know, 20 plus years.
	There's something to it, but I don't blame anybody for thinking it's a bunch of crap.
	Yeah, how could you blame anybody for that?
	I mean, really, look at it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just look at it.
	How could you blame anybody?
	Anyway, so back on topic.
	Art's sort of expressing concern over the cost associated with podcasting.
	And I think that the audio, like when things are working correctly here, I think the audio quality of what we're doing right now sounds, in my opinion, as great as any terrestrial radio station, any other online streaming endeavor that I've heard.
	And it's not a lot of money that had to be spent here to accomplish this.
	I mean, well under $1,000.
	The stream, I mean, yes, I've only got 50 listener slots, but even stream hosting is really, really cheap these days.
	I think if you went to like, what is it, Curtis?
	Amazon S5?
	Is that what they call it?
	S3.
	S3, S74.
	Yes, SR.
	Yeah.
	S 71.
	You can buy server space there and you can be built only for what's used.
	That's what Keith Rowland used for arts streaming, I believe.
	It was Amazon.
	For Dark Matter Radio?
	I believe so.
	I think it's what Dark Matter Radio Network is using and all of arts websites, too.
	I'm pretty sure I remember seeing something about that.
	Yeah.
	For the wormhole, right?
	Because it was having problems.
	It was very similar to how the Gabcast started and its stability tonight.
	I just can't imagine a universe in which Art Bell starts doing a podcast online and he can't find advertisers to offset any cost associated with putting the product out there.
	I'm thinking alleviate those costs and probably be profitable on top of it.
	In addition to whatever user subscription model art comes up with, I just can't imagine how this is a problem.
	One thing I don't understand is with like Dark Matter Radio Network, where in his non-compete is the clause that says that he can't be the sponsor of a network.
	Of course, he's not going to have a show on it on a regular basis.
	I get that.
	But why couldn't he have used his name to get advertising, to get the power behind it to build up a really successful network leading up to him coming back when his non-compete was over?
	That's never made sense to me.
	There's always been this connection, but it's not.
	Why couldn't he put his real name to that?
	Is he that embarrassed by the content that's on it?
	No, I don't think it's that.
	I think he just didn't want to test the waters with Sirius to see how far they would take it if he did put his name to it in some way.
	I mean, they could take him to court, and obviously there's costs associated with that.
	He probably didn't want to go to a lawyer and spend the money on that to find out whether he could or couldn't do it.
	So there's probably other reasons that he didn't do it as opposed to him being embarrassed by the content.
	Yeah, that's not the official reason, though.
	Well, yeah, but I just don't get why he leaves ATT out of this.
	I know.
	I did that on purpose.
	Oh, okay.
	Didn't anyway.
	I don't understand why he couldn't go ahead.
	And I get what you're saying too, Jazz.
	It makes sense that he's just playing it cautiously.
	But why not carefully segment yourself to say, this is my podcast network that I'm going to quote unquote look for the next Art Bell, which they started off doing and then, of course, left.
	But keep that going for momentum.
	I think you've been a big proponent, Jazz, about why doesn't he use social media, Twitter, all these things to keep his fan base going?
	And that's exactly what I'm saying.
	Go ahead and use his name and build a media arm.
	He could probably get people to do this for free.
	I mean, just to say that you're connected to art with this and you had a small piece to it would be enough to get me to help.
	I'm sure plenty of other people to jump in to whether it's building street teams to make sure posts hit enough viewers on Facebook and Twitter.
	There's all kinds of ways that are free that people could have been helping him build the momentum for a show if he was serious about it.
	And Dark Matter Radio Network could have been a great tool to bring everybody.
	That's the payoff all of the marketing could have been up until Art's return.
	It's not just that.
	Art said it's going to require a considerable investment on his part.
	And I'd be more than happy to donate anything, something.
	Oh, come on.
	I make that happen.
	I'm going to puke all over my own lap if you do that.
	This guy's a millionaire.
	No, I understand that.
	But if he did have some type of Kickstarter campaign and there were some rewards for donating a certain amount, well, that may be acceptable, but I mean, even that, I just, you know, I mean, yeah, that may, I understand that, but I just sort of get an icky taste in my mouth when I see millionaires asking the peasants for pennies.
	Well, he hasn't done that, so let's not accuse him of that.
	But are you suggesting that that's just that sentence about requiring a considerable investment?
	Is that an excuse?
	Is that just a convenient excuse to be able to back out of it that no one's going to sort of volume up on?
	I think the first question we have to ask is: does art want an excuse to not do the show?
	I go back to the streaming issues as being, I understand that, like for you, Michael, you said you had issues with streaming on it, but I never had streaming issues using the Sirius app.
	I mean, there are multitudes of other users on Bellgab who had the same problems.
	But I think that he put up an ultimatum.
	I've always felt that that was far more of an excuse.
	And all I ever wanted him to do was admit that, say, okay, yes, streaming was a problem, but I just wanted to be with my, whatever the reasons.
	I want to be with my family.
	I don't want to miss another Halloween with my children.
	Give me just a little bit of truth.
	You don't have to tell me the whole thing about your life because that's truly none of my business.
	But give me a little bit of honesty and don't give me an excuse.
	And that's what I think is happening now, too, is that he feels that he can throw in an excuse so that he doesn't have to give any real information.
	And that's always bugged me because I want him to come back just as much as anyone else.
	It's great to hear him on the radio, but I don't want to hear excuses about things anymore.
	He could have just said, Hey, I don't want to do it.
	My family doesn't want me to do it.
	Thanks, everybody, for the fun, but not happening.
	And he hasn't done that.
	Well, let's continue parsing this message from Art.
	So we've got the considerable investment sentence here.
	It will also require a producer, which may be a problem because Paul may not be available.
	No producer would mean no show.
	So, by producer, does that just mean someone who lines up guests?
	I mean, you don't need a call screener to do this.
	Is that it?
	Just somebody who gets guests and someone he trusts, probably too.
	I mean, he needs to have complete faith, which I think we saw that in the whole episode that happened with Toomey Church.
	He needs to feel like you're 100% bought into the Art Bell system.
	I'm guessing Paul was like that.
	I know.
	Come on, the Art Bell system to $49.99.
	Just call the 1-800 Art Bell system and get your pizza punch, too.
	I just, I think that, again, is an excuse.
	How many people would line up to be a producer over him?
	There was a thread on the forum I noticed today that's called Let's Help Art with a New Show, going through a list of different things that they were saying needs to happen.
	And one of those was producing.
	Why not get the group to help get it started?
	And then once there's some success with the show, that wasn't Freudian, then get a real producer.
	Once there's some sex going on out there, things are going to be cooking.
	I'm in.
	Art's new podcast is going to be cranking right along as soon as there's some sex.
	Isn't that always how it goes?
	Well, if you go back and listen to old episodes when a lady would call in that art was in a mood, he would take it that direction.
	So it's not that far off, I guess.
	But I'd pay $9.99 to listen.
	Well, I wonder why Paul may not be available because he got a job.
	I've got that too.
	Yeah.
	I would say that in the intervening time between Sirius and now he's probably got another job and I think he's sitting around waiting for art to come back.
	Well, I recall, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Paul supposedly quit his job when art went to Sirius in order to be art's producer full-time and just to deal with that?
	He did.
	Yeah, and I assume he's gone back to his boss to ask for his job back in the intervening time, you would think.
	Yeah, he wanted to go back to flying drones too, which is pretty cool.
	If you ever see any of his videos, he's producer Paul has some really nice drone videos.
	And by the way, I spoke to him on the phone a couple of times.
	Salt of the Earth, nice guy.
	Yeah, he's a really nice guy.
	Yeah, he was exactly what you would hope he would be.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, it's Pony Boy Sunset.
	Hi there, Pony Boy Sunset.
	How the hell are you guys?
	I'm about a six.
	Curtis, what are you?
	What are you saying?
	7.3.
	Tesmunda?
	I'm about an 11.
	Oh, shut up.
	Redacted.
	Tens.
	Tens across the board over here.
	Fuck both of you.
	Very nice.
	Anyway, Pony Boy Sunset's a pleasure to hear from you.
	What's going on in your world?
	Oh, well, currently my novel's in the hands of a publisher being read tonight.
	Are you expecting this to be the thing that just breaks everything wide open for you?
	No, this call is that.
	That'd be nice, but we all know how the real world works.
	I'm not going to make money doing this.
	Well, I saw that black lipstick in your avatar.
	So maybe you can just send some Dominatrix photos to the publisher or something along those lines.
	And I think you're going to get the job done that way.
	Well, I appreciate the advice.
	I mean, what else do I call you guys for?
	That's what you wanted to hear.
	Anyway, so what's going on?
	What brings you to the show this evening?
	Well, first of all, I got to weigh in on the astrology thing because I'm pro-astrology.
	Of course, you are.
	Aren't all women?
	I mean, is this like a woman thing?
	No, it's just the black lipstick.
	I know you're definitely into astrology, but I have a question.
	Before you go on with this, have you ever been to a Wiccan Coven picnic?
	Oh, boy.
	I have not.
	That's too bad.
	You should go to one.
	Curtis, you're going to have to stop dropping these like just totally disjointed inside references that 2% of the listening audience has any ability to understand.
	That's a bit rock reference, by the way.
	But you understand that I'm here for the 2%.
	Fort Rock, the guy who has gone on and on at Bell Gab about the inside information he supposedly has from his Portland source, who knows everything about what Art Bell is up to.
	This guy appeared on a podcast, and in the podcast, he discussed his attendance at a, what was it, a coven?
	A Wiccan Coven picnic.
	Yeah, it was a get-together.
	And when you see Fort Rock and what he looks like, he looks like he should be moving you into a different whole life policy, not attending some sort of a Wiccan coven picnic or whatever it is that he's been attending.
	I'm member number two in the Scorpion Army.
	Well, we're all very impressed by that.
	Be sure to put it on your resume, Curtis.
	I did.
	That's why I'm unemployed currently.
	Oh, my.
	That's a new development.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Go ahead, sorry.
	Pro-art.
	No matter what he does.
	I mean, like, I think like most people, I would just love to hear him because it's sad that listening to shows from 1998 are better than most of what's on.
	That's true.
	I agree.
	Yeah, I agreed.
	That, to me, is what Art can hang his hat on, no matter what he reads on Bell Gab, no matter what sort of trollish nonsense people decide to post about him so that they can feel like they're thinking outside of the box where everyone else is just some sort of a stupid lemming.
	Despite all of that stuff, Art can always hang his hat on the fact that these shows he did in the 1990s hold up just as well today in many cases, not all of them.
	Better.
	In some cases, better.
	But in the cases where they don't hold up, it's only because of the guest and the things the guest is saying that time has disproven or the things that for whatever reason, you know, as the passage of time has occurred, have become entirely irrelevant to the overall discussion.
	But short of what those shows are all great.
	I think that just shows how good art is because, you know, my interest in the paranormal over time, the topics, the guests, they've waned over the years, definitely.
	But there's just something magic about art and the way that he can make these guests and these topics just come alive.
	And I can be listening to a 20-year-old program, and yeah, it does feel relevant today.
	And Dark Matter, I thought, was a great show.
	It was fantastic to be sitting there chatting with all you guys live while it was happening.
	And I think brought some of the 90s magic back.
	That was the best part for me because, like I've said many times, I didn't listen to art during the initial run.
	It was towards the end.
	So getting a chance to feel that, I think we've all talked about the first episodes weren't that great, but he definitely, there was a moment he hit his stride and just kept going, and it was great.
	And Bell Gab was an awesome accent piece to it to be connected to a community during it, just like I'm sure if you are at Bell.com in the past, there was a great community to be a part of.
	I hear people, or I see people making these comments from time to time about, well, Dark Matter was an inferior show anyway.
	So, yeah, you know, this, that, and the other thing.
	I just, I'm sorry.
	I don't accept that.
	I feel like people who say that, they're just trying to be contrarian.
	They're being, they're just, they're trying to be the guy who doesn't say what everybody else is saying.
	It's kind of like watching a talking head on Fox News who just says something so stupid because they want to be the smart guy in the room.
	They want to be the guy who has unique analysis to bring to the table.
	But I just don't accept that at all, that Dark Matter was a bad show.
	It was wonderful.
	And this is someone who was listening to Art Bell live back in the 1990s.
	I had to say 1990s, or you wouldn't have known what I'm referring to, ladies and gentlemen.
	We're on the 1890s.
	What were you doing?
	Well, never mind.
	Had I been around, I think I would have been hammering a railroad spike just to, you know, I would be there with the Chinaman, just hammering railroad spikes.
	I don't know.
	I'm so depressed tonight.
	Nothing went the way I wanted it to.
	I don't even, I'm not capable of engaging in happy, witty banter, honestly.
	You don't have to.
	I mean, at least you're doing a show.
	It's more than a lot of people do.
	Oh, my.
	Who's that an attack on?
	Oh, wow.
	I'm just saying in general.
	I thought you were some sort of Art Bell fan.
	I don't know.
	It seems like a veiled attack.
	Oh, twist in my words.
	You know, that's a little disappointing.
	But I just don't accept this idea that Dark Matter was a bad show.
	It was a great show, and it proved that Art still has every ounce of the talent that he had in the 90s.
	He has every ounce of the listenability that he had in the 90s.
	Even maybe more so.
	I mean, his life experience from then to now has grown just as it has for the rest of us.
	And so one can only think that that enables you to bring even more to the table, as I think it did.
	Dark Matter was a great show.
	Yeah, look, I've been an Art Bell fan now for more than half of my life.
	And, you know, I've listened, to this day, I still listen to him daily like his old shows.
	So now whenever, when anything in the world happens news-wise, I want to hear what Art Bell's got to say on the matter.
	That's why I've wanted it.
	I've sort of been out there saying, you know, Art Bell should be on artbell.com, on Facebook, whatever, getting his name out there, keeping himself relevant, talking about all the issues of the day.
	And I mean, that's one way to keep the fires burning.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	For me, instead of art, what I think of is the no agenda podcast, when anything major in political news or every once in a while, paranormals hide stuff.
	I think, what are these guys going to say on their podcast?
	Whether it's the week show or weekend show, I'm always looking to see what they have.
	What's their take on the news?
	I don't always agree with what they say, but I want to hear what it is they have to say.
	And I think art would be awesome, even if it was social media that he was doing it, not on a show weekly.
	I guess he doesn't need to do it every day either.
	I mean, he doesn't need to have a nightly show.
	Why not just do a podcast once a week?
	Oh, yeah.
	I would prefer to have a podcast I'm talking about just during his non-compete phase.
	Yeah, get on social media and talk, you know, tell us, talk to us through that medium.
	But yeah, once that's over, yeah, I'd love to hear him once a week, you know, once a month even.
	Yeah, well, I would even be okay with a social media interaction.
	Do it once a week, have like on Facebook and Twitter, have some kind of interaction saying, here's the news of the week and here's my thoughts on it.
	Tease some things that maybe at some point in the future he might do a show about things that pique his interest and let people respond to it.
	I mean, when he does post things lately on Facebook, and I pretty much only see that through Gabcast now, but it looks like, or not Gabcast, sorry, Belgab, but it seems like he interacts more with the people who post compared to the early days of his Facebook page.
	So, why not weekly say, all right, here's the big stories, or what does my audience want to hear my opinion on?
	And have a chat with the fans.
	Again, going back to free things he could be doing to keep the fires burning.
	Well, I think that there's enough of us talking about it that that shows there's interest.
	So, I mean, even if it was once a week, I don't know.
	Whatever he did, I would listen.
	I guess that's what I called to say.
	So, the people who are being negative about it, you know, I'm being negative, but I also want him to come back.
	You know, that's how torn I am: is that I would love to eat my words, but at the same time, I don't think I'm going to have to.
	Hold on, I'll be back.
	I think someone's knocking on my door here.
	Hold on, you guys carry on.
	I had a look on Facebook, and I saw that art has he's got 5,000 friends, but he also has 15,000 people following his page.
	So, I mean, there's interest there.
	And I had a look just for comparison's sake, and I saw that Coast to Coast AM, which is a current seven-day-a-week program, has 30,000 followers to their site.
	So, I think that art stacks up pretty well with a crap program that's going daily and has advertising budgets and whatever.
	Well, I'm sure if he had more contact, if he was interacting with the fans more on his social media, that number would go up through the roof.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'm back.
	Well, we have a caller.
	Let's go ahead and take the call.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, it's Wildcard again.
	Oh, hi.
	Do you think art could just be trolling us?
	I mean, this is the guy that before he posted that, he posted something about his balls being inflated.
	Could art be cranking us?
	I hope so.
	I think that was a joke.
	I hope so, too.
	Balls, crank, all in the same sentence, ladies and gentlemen.
	I'm not so sure about that.
	I don't know.
	I mean, there are people who I'm sure there literally are people out there, or I should say there are people out there who literally do believe that art is just fucking with all of us.
	I don't subscribe to that idea.
	I think that he's really, I got to wonder.
	Do you think that's a good idea?
	Obviously, there's some little voice in the back of Art's mind that's caused him to lose some amount of confidence here.
	That's what I think has happened.
	And I would like to know what that is.
	Is it what people are saying on Belgab?
	I mean, is this the ultimate irony where the website that was established to celebrate his work and to herald his return is, in fact, in some way responsible for the fact that he won't return?
	Is that from art?
	I don't get that he would fall victim to trolls very easily.
	I mean, he's the guy that had that whole Filipino letter hoax going around in the 90s, and that didn't stop him or slow him down.
	So I can't imagine a few trolls on and haters on Belgab are going to be the thing that brings him down.
	Azure A in the chat room says it's all the arts a quitter talk that pissed Art off.
	I mean, that does seem to sort of stick in his craw a little bit, the whole quitter thing, which I'm not sure of all the things that people say about him.
	I'm not sure why that's the one that seems to bother him the most because he has quit his show.
	I mean, several times.
	There have been times where people felt that he didn't stick around when he should have.
	Curtis?
	I think the record is all you need to use to look at that.
	And that probably upsets him more than people talking about it, the fact that the record proves it true.
	And I'll always say, too, if you want to get to the heart of Art Bell's issues, whatever they might be, listen to the episode, the Halloween episode, but not for the reason Art tells you to.
	Just listen to how sad he sounds to not be out with his family for Halloween.
	He has this conflicted feeling of he's made Halloween really exciting with radio for Ghost to Ghost in the past.
	Now all of a sudden he's conflicted trying to rebuild that, but also has his family and daughter he wants to share these experiences with.
	And you could just, I thought being a father too, I could sense that he really missed being out there walking with her.
	I think that's the episode you go back to.
	The other big thing here that you have to acknowledge is that during that show, Art himself said that a number of the callers who were supposed to be on the air that night couldn't be reached and there were numerous issues with all of that.
	And I can speak from experience that when you're trying to do a broadcast of some kind and things aren't working right, nothing's going the way it was supposed to, that really affects you.
	Oh, I agree.
	I don't discount that.
	I'm just saying he pointed to that as the reason.
	And I think probably the part that I key on and notice is how bittersweet he sounded in it.
	Because he brought up how what he was going to be doing once she got home and how he was going to steal her candy.
	And it wasn't, I don't know.
	I felt that he really was missing out on something that was important to him and it was coming through on the radio.
	And he's the kind of guy that he can play the part of radio guy really well, but then when emotional things hit him, like going back to the episodes after Ramona passed away, he can't help but share what he really feels when the emotion's strong enough.
	And I have to think that that was a strong emotion.
	It's my opinion.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	I don't think anyone would begrudge him taking a night off to do trick-or-treating with his daughter.
	He can do Ghost to Ghost on the next night or the night before.
	I mean, no one's, you know, people are still going to tune in and listen to it.
	I agree.
	I think it actually makes more sense to do it the night before the night after because then everyone else is going out with their family.
	Exactly.
	But I think he holds himself to such a high standard that when he couldn't reach that level or he was conflicted, it just, it was burning.
	I think he got off the air and it just, it's him signed himself.
	He was steaming.
	He couldn't let it go.
	His wife was probably a little upset about it too.
	The other thing, too, think about her.
	She's probably very, she's of the age group to where she would understand social media better than him.
	Is she advising him possibly that social media is a bad place to be on?
	And then if she ever goes to Belgab, maybe she's put off by the comments that are out there more than he is.
	Wow, listen to the level of speculation that Curtis brings to the show.
	And what type of soap is Art using?
	I think he's using Lever 2000.
	That could explain a lot of this.
	Isn't that what it's called?
	That's from the 90s, wasn't it?
	I use Lever 2000 every day to wash my body.
	Well, that's how I know that one.
	It's the cameras I have in your house.
	I swear to God, I use Lever 2000.
	You know, any product that has the same thing.
	Yeah, it's like, okay, there was a short 10 or 15 year period of time where you could put that in your product name, and it sounded really cool.
	And then suddenly it's like when I hear anything 2000, I just think of dial-up internet.
	That's all I think about.
	Remember, AOL used to be called AOL 2000.
	That's awesome.
	Pate made a good comment in the chat room.
	He said, I'd love to hear the man again, but he has to want to come back for himself, not because we all want him to or you all want him to.
	And that's true.
	I agree with that.
	I don't want Art to come back because he feels obligated.
	Screw it.
	I want Art to come back.
	I don't care what the reason is.
	I just hope he comes back.
	And then when he gets there, it becomes the right reason for him.
	Like he realizes how much he's enjoying it, and it becomes the right thing for him to do, whether it started out that way or not.
	I don't care.
	I just want him to come back and I want more Art Bell shows.
	Wasn't that Dark Matter?
	Well, yeah, but I mean, okay.
	What do you want from me, Curtis?
	You know, I'm just a simple guy here trying to host a podcast.
	I need you to make him want to come back.
	Well, let me finish this letter that this post that Art submitted a couple of days ago.
	He says, fourth, so we just finished with the whole he doesn't have a producer thing.
	And now he continues, fourth, I have zero regrets about having left SiriusXM.
	And where I faced today with the same situation now, would make the same decision.
	The only thing I would have done is not to have signed a contract with them in the first place without understanding their streaming problems.
	It was represented to me that they had a viable national and international stream in place.
	That's on me.
	Fifth, if anything aside from my health would hold me back, it would be the people who, as I have read on this board, are already starting to say I will quit again.
	If I decide to give this a try at my age, there's no guarantee my health will hold out.
	And if it does, it might not be wise.
	If it does not, it might be wiser to not begin as opposed to facing all the grief I would get if at some point I could not hold up.
	These are the things I'm considering.
	So this is the paragraph that, to me, is a little depressing because it's like, okay, here's this website that was started as an Art Bell fan site to celebrate his work, to encourage his return, to be a meeting place for everybody when he does returns, you know, just to and the comments that he's reading on this forum are in some way negatively affecting the prospects of his return.
	That sucks.
	That really sucks.
	Yes, it does.
	It's like a paradox.
	What's one to do?
	I mean, you can't go around and tell everyone, okay, no negative Art Bell posts, please.
	You can't do that.
	It is the internet.
	People are going to say what they say.
	I've seen things that people say about Art elsewhere, and the stuff that's posted on Bellgab about him is extremely tame relative to some of the other things I see people saying elsewhere.
	What if Art contacted you and said that you need to change the site and he'll come back and you need to moderate it?
	White Crow needs to be your new moderator.
	And things have to change.
	I could probably grant most demands short of that.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	But why does he care?
	Why is what people are saying on a forum affecting whether or not he's going to broadcast?
	I mean, get on the air, man.
	Get on the air.
	Who cares what people are people are going to say all day long if you're trying to do something that you can't do it?
	Why does Art care what people are saying on the forum?
	Just get on the radio and to hell with what everybody has to say.
	Really?
	I mean, who cares?
	Of what importance is this anonymous pontificating?
	What value is there in any of that as it relates to his decision-making process?
	Go ahead.
	I'm done.
	If Belgab gets under his skin so bad, people giving sometimes honest, other times just joking opinions that are rude to him, if that gets under his skin so much, then why didn't all the misses that Ed Dames had on his show not get to him?
	Boy, Curtis, you really are a negative Nancy.
	I just, you know, you just keep attacking Art Bell.
	I love Art Bell.
	I'm not sure this is the show for you.
	Understand, I say this.
	I'm saying the things that need to be said so that we get Art Bell back for the right reasons.
	If he came on the show right now, I would tell him I'm sorry, and I'd never talk again and never post again.
	I'd shut my mouth forever.
	Well, I wouldn't want that.
	I like your posts.
	Well, then Art's not coming back, I guess, and asking me to not do that.
	But I would.
	Art's awesome.
	But art has flaws, just like everybody else.
	Yeah, but he's been called everything, the devil's toe jam.
	I mean, come on.
	And that never mattered.
	Yeah.
	The antichrist.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he talked constantly about moving to different parts of the world because of what Ed Dames was saying with kill shots and, you know, saying he remote viewed Satan and all these things would happen.
	And Art, you know, didn't hesitate to come on the air the next night after those things were failing, you know, once they were proven to not be true.
	Or what about the Hailbop comment?
	If that didn't take him off the air permanently, how could Belgab do it?
	And I'm not saying he was to blame for anything.
	He should have no culpability in it.
	He was just on the air making or letting people talk.
	But if he came back with all the people who were on his show talking about the bad things that were going to happen with it, then if that didn't get to him, how could we get to him?
	Let them be the gong.
	Does Art really want to come back?
	I mean, that's the foundation of all of this.
	Jasmunda, you think what?
	Well, look, I mean, rating what you just read, it sounds like he doesn't want to come back.
	It sounds like he might be making excuses for not coming back.
	I don't know.
	I mean, let's reconfigure the poll here.
	Jasmunda, is Art back in July?
	Oh, well, if you said it's no, I would have to say rating is no.
	Curtis?
	No.
	Redacted?
	Iffy.
	I'm going to say no.
	No Art Bell in July, folks.
	Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
	Do I want him to come back?
	Hell, yeah.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, I totally second that.
	And I'm sure anybody who could offer some help to get him back on the air would.
	But, you know, this is, okay, this is what's bothering me.
	Why, if you're planning on getting back on the air and you're telling your fans periodically that you will be back on the air in July 2015, we've been waiting for this since he went off the air.
	Why come up with your concerns, a list of concerns, and say them publicly?
	That, to me, speaks to, and I'm not a radio person.
	I don't know.
	But it speaks of a little bit of a lack of professionalism.
	I mean, talking about not having a producer, isn't that behind the scenes stuff that he should be?
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	I kind of get the feeling too that Art Bell, when he's trying to make a decision, when he does the column of positives and negatives for making the decision, he starts with the negatives.
	He never starts with the positives, which I can understand.
	I mean, you want to be guarded in everything you do, even if you are excited about it.
	I mean, I would hate to, which we would never find this out, but if Art is like dying to do a show, but there is something that's holding him back that he can't tell us, so he's trying to let us down easy.
	Again, like I said earlier, I would much rather hear a sliver of the truth, something that sounds plausible, rather than be told something like your parents would tell you when they don't want you to know about Santa Claus.
	Right.
	I feel like I'm Art's kid.
	And that goes back to.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	No, I was just going to say a few days before this post, he posted something on Facebook where he mentioned the July situation.
	And immediately, you know, people sort of said, well, July situation doesn't sound like a very good thing.
	And then others were saying, no, it's, you know, it's fine.
	He's coming back.
	He's coming back.
	If he were coming back, it wouldn't be a situation.
	Yeah, well, that's right.
	When someone says we got a situation here, you don't have positive thoughts.
	No.
	Hi, you're on the air.
	Hello.
	Hey, that's B-W again.
	Oh, hey.
	What's up?
	Hey, Art.
	Yes.
	Hello.
	So, yeah, so I don't know.
	I personally'm not sure if Art's going to come back or not, but I don't know that.
	I don't know.
	I guess I don't understand why you're tormenting yourselves over this because you're not going to know until you know.
	Well, I mean, what's shocking about it, though?
	I mean, the only reason any of us even know of the existence of one another is because of an Art Bell fansite.
	That's, well, okay.
	Um, so.
	It's our job to over-analyze things without any other information at hand.
	I mean, this could be Falkycast instead.
	I'd much rather be Art Bell.
	I definitely don't want that.
	At this point, I couldn't imagine what the audience would want.
	Would you prefer that we discussed May and A's recipes?
	Yeah, really.
	Do you have good ones?
	So we have seen this pattern before where people have taken a morsel and turned it into this huge thing.
	Reading between the lines and reading between the lines.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it's going to be at least another month or two before we get any sort of indication whether he's going to try and take a run at it or not.
	I don't even think that far forward.
	We'll know.
	I don't think we're going to have a clue what's really coming until zero hour.
	Actually, we probably won't know until one minute after zero hour when it's dead air still.
	I think he'll sit down and he'll think about what he wants to do.
	He'll think about what's involved.
	And at that point, it will start to become clear to him whether he's going to pull the trigger on it or not.
	Honestly, I don't see it being a huge deal because he can basically do this entire enterprise from his house like he's always done.
	And I don't think it's going to cost him a lot of money.
	Well, yeah, he can do it now from home with less overhead because he doesn't need to have an ISD in line.
	You know, I think there are two things that are factors.
	There's his health and there's family demands, which Asia's daughter is going to be eight, nine years old.
	I don't know.
	I thought she was born in like 2007.
	Is that wrong?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, eight years old.
	So he's going to have to think about how much time he wants to spend cooped up away from his wife and kid.
	But like I said, he can do that all from his house.
	So I don't know.
	I guess I'm not the negative as to that you guys are.
	Yeah, but B-dub, why not just come out and say that?
	I mean, no one would hold, you know, no one would say anything.
	If he said, I need to spend time with my family, my heart's not in it.
	Then, yeah, I'm certainly not grudging that.
	I don't know that he's made that decision yet.
	Yeah, but that's such a...
	If you were leaning towards yes, you would already be putting...
	I'm looking at Fear Boys with Bugsy.
	He says B-dub has a chart of the Bell family.
	I like what Zeebo wrote.
	Maybe Art should just do a newsletter and Jazz can read it on the podcast once it's done.
	Gladly.
	Would I get paid?
	I'm going to pay $9.99 an hour for it.
	You'll get paid in my eternal gratitude.
	But y'all decided not to compete.
	You guys, I really have to go.
	I'd like to continue this.
	Unless you guys just want to continue for a while doing the show without me, I could just leave everything potted up here.
	If you guys feel like you want to continue to be continued next week.
	I don't really know that there's that much more to say, really.
	I mean, Art is going to come back or he's not going to come back.
	I mean, one minute he says he is.
	The next minute, we're being drenched with uncertainty.
	I don't really know what else to say about the matter.
	But pretty clearly, Art's not going to call in tonight to talk about it.
	That's for sure.
	Why don't we call him?
	What's one of the old coast-to-coast numbers that might still be connected to it?
	You're like the West of the Rockies line or the...
	I feel like Jazz Mundo's probably still got him on speed dial.
	I would assume that he would.
	You have him on Skype, right?
	So let's go ahead and get him on here.
	Let's be the aggressors in this situation.
	I thought Jasmine called him up by now.
	No, I'm not that much of a freak.
	Before we go, everyone, let's do one of Art's thought experiments.
	And everybody jump on Facebook and instant message him right now to call in.
	Well, I'm actually upset that Art didn't call in because I had a whole list of questions that I wanted to ask him.
	I was not stupid enough to sit down and dedicate time to that.
	I'm thankful to say that I did not.
	I wanted to know things like, you know, was Ed Dames full of shit?
	Did Linda Moulton Howe have a pretty name for her tape recorder?
	And really, I just wanted to ask him, you know, what was the Ouija board story all about?
	And is there a statue of limitations for the evil doings that could happen if he revealed that story?
	So basically, you're asking questions as if he's never coming back.
	Yes.
	I think that we should end the podcast, but you should end it by asking Beat Up all those questions.
	Beat up, did Linda Moulton Howe have a nickname for her tape recorder?
	Yes, it was called Rosebud.
	Okay, fuck this show.
	I'm out of here.
	You guys.
	That's how it feels about me, too.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you guys.
	Well, it's been a pleasure.
	Yeah, I'd like to thank all of you for being here this evening.
	And by the way, those of you who are connecting on Skype, the music comes through really loud because I can't adjust the levels that you hear.
	So only the audience can hear the adjusted music levels.
	Sorry about that.
	But thank you, Jasmunda.
	Thank you, Redacted.
	Thank you, the Mud King.
	Thank you, B-W.
	Thank you, Wildcard.
	Thank you, Ponyboy, Sunset.
	Wow, I can't speak at all.
	This night has just been a disaster.
	I feel like I have nerve damage or something.
	Not been a good show.
	Anyway, everybody, have a lovely night, and thank you for listening.
	And possibly we'll see you next week.
	I don't know.
	I think what we should do is just do shows when there's something specific to talk about.
	You know, that makes more sense.
	I don't know.
	Rather than sit here and try to manufacture things to talk about.
	I don't know.
	We'll just wait.
	We'll find some way to get art to post once a week so we can have something to talk about.
	How about that?
	Okay.
	With B-W's cough, we'll go ahead and exit the show.
	Everybody, have a good night.
	Thank you.

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