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23 June, 2014

23 June, 2014 ---------- The Mud King joins the Gabcast crew tonight as we discuss Safety Coffins, ancient burial methods, Art 's latest vague post and Game of Thrones spoilers.

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Hey, everybody, it's the GabCast.
This is the June 20.
What is the date today?
June 23rd edition of the GabCast.
If you guys would like to be a part of the show tonight, the number to call is 623-242-2278.
Again, that's 623-242 Cast.
I'm Eddie Dean.
We've got Onan.
We've got B-Dub, and we have Curtis Thornton.
I'm hurting myself trying to remember everybody's name here.
What's up, guys?
Hey, what's going on, man?
How's everybody doing?
Hello?
I'm doing pretty good.
It seems like every time I start the show, I'm kind of scrambling to make sure that everything looks good and you guys can hear everything and my mixer settings are right and I'm recording everything.
And basically, I'm whining about this whole thing.
But I'm great.
Life is good.
I'm glad you asked.
You know, you could try it more like the way I do things, which is I just show up.
And it either sounds good or it doesn't.
Yeah, you just show up like two seconds before the airtime and say, hey, I'm here, guys.
That's right.
You're like the rock star.
Well, I don't know about that.
Rock star with a bunch of rocks.
B-dub, are you with us?
Are you there?
I am.
Okay.
Good.
How you doing, buddy?
How's the weather?
I'm good.
You know, the show's going off or going downhill when I ask somebody about the weather at the top of the show.
We're right at the beginning.
At the very beginning.
So how's the weather, everybody?
It's wonderful.
The sky was out today, and I looked at it.
It was light, and then it got dark.
Wow.
Why is the sky blue?
Let's see.
I noticed on the site on bellgab.com that Art Bell, I guess he didn't post on Bellgab, did he?
He posted on Facebook.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm really interested in this because I haven't followed everything leading up to it.
So I'm interested in what you guys have to say about it.
Hey, Mud King, can you turn your gate feature up just a little bit?
Because when you talk, I can hear some background noise.
Here you go.
I'll just let the temperature go up to 90 in here because that's how much I care about you guys.
Really?
Is that better?
Is that better?
Yeah, that's better.
I would not be able to do that in here.
I have the AC running and my gate on my microphone processor is cranked pretty high.
So hopefully it's gating everything out.
But, okay.
Didn't mean to butt in, but what were you saying?
Well, actually, on that track, if you listen to the last spec sheet, I was sweating so bad during that.
I almost passed out, I think.
It was so hot.
Really?
But it's not that bad today.
So I think I'll be all right.
If I pass out, just keep going.
Just step over me and we'll be all good.
I was going to ask you how hot it got back there, but I think we already talked about the weather.
So go ahead.
Yeah.
How hot was it?
It was so hot.
Tech and weather.
That's what we're about.
Let's keep going.
Yeah.
Belgab, tech, and weather.
And Art Bell, too.
Yeah.
Art Bell, I'm really interested in everybody's take on that and also what the future predictions for him are in light of any new revelations from him or other people related to him.
Well, I didn't read his Facebook post, but somebody cut and pasted or did a screenshot.
And basically all he said was something about a human's back isn't, or God didn't create the back of a human correctly, or I don't think I'm remembering that.
Well, I think his back words were, I hate God, and I'm going to blow up the earth.
Yes.
That's exactly what he said.
I can get behind those words for him because it's very clear.
Yeah.
The one thing I want to throw out there, too, with this is Onin, what you had to say in response to the conversation about that and about how you felt with everything, you just perfectly summed up something I couldn't describe, saying how you felt about it.
Yeah, I use those words pretty good.
Yeah.
Onin is really good at that.
He boils things down to the basic denominator, I guess, or the basic fundamental thought or purpose behind some things.
And it's really major.
What it really boils down to is I can't handle complexity.
And I'm just really just lucky.
That's all it is.
So you stick with the KISS principle then forever?
I do.
Yeah.
Same plan.
So what did you say?
What was the comment about Art Bell's post?
I honestly don't remember.
Mud King, do you remember?
Could you summarize perhaps?
He described, I'm trying to think of the words that you used because it was really good.
Basically saying how you felt when he came back, when he left so quickly, and the process you felt afterwards.
You basically showed how it's okay to not care is the way I would describe it, just from an emotional level of the way I felt walking away from it was, you know, he really described what I kind of thought were the stages of grief maybe that people went through, but made it not sound so creepy as to say I grieved in the process.
Did he basically just go ahead?
I think I said I was embarrassed that I put so much energy into it up front, but I don't remember what I said after that.
Yeah, I was going to see if I could find it really.
Did you say something like, fuck it, or fuck Art Bell?
No, you know, I don't, there seems to be a lot of, or at least a certain amount of contempt for what happened with Art Bell.
And, you know, man, hell, if I, I can't explain why I put my socks on in the morning.
So trying to understand why somebody did what they did is such a complex nature.
I got no answers for that.
I wasn't happy with how it ended, but I don't know the whole story.
So it's a radio show, for Christ's sake.
If I'm going to get upset because a radio show is no longer on, I want to think my life is just a little more pleasant than hanging on one guy's radio show.
Yeah, you might have bigger problems if you blow your head off because Art Bell quit.
Yeah, here's my direct quote from Onan, which I think pretty much sums up the whole thing.
He says, I believe it would be fun to have a new Art Bell show, but beyond that, I just don't care.
I see his absence as both an embarrassment and a relief.
That last line there just is great.
I thought that summed up the whole.
Thank you.
Well, thank you.
No, really, thank you for what you do.
No, no, no.
Thank you.
I hope he comes back.
I hope he does another 10 years of shows, but if he doesn't.
That seems pretty unlikely.
Yeah.
Given he's not a young man.
No.
No, but my wife and I were talking about this a little bit the other day, and we both kind of came to the conclusion that, you know, if you're going to work at a job, you know, not saying that radio broadcasting isn't difficult, but it's not like shoveling coal or laying asphalt.
So, you know, I don't see it as a physical strain for him to do it.
And there are chairs out there that would take all the stress off his back.
Granted, he'd be more in a reclining position than he would be sitting, but you can make modifications to your equipment to make that work.
So anyway.
Yeah, he could levitate or be in some sort of a gravity chair where he could do that.
Yeah.
Gravity isn't affecting his back at all.
He could go to where the coral is.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Yes, I just made up the gravity chair thing.
Oh, well, he could go to where the coral castle is.
And, you know, all those rocks are pretty much weightless now.
So they are for him.
Well, you know, it really says a lot about the state of paranormal healing medicine that he can't even solve his back problem.
Yeah, really.
Yeah.
I know he said plenty of them.
He just need to get some more crystals in there.
Yeah.
Align them at what, 19.5.
Yes.
Maybe some of George Norrie's guests could help him out.
You know, they could lay their hands on him and give him a bunch of crystals and heal that back right up.
All he needs is a subscription to a guy on TV.
He'd be fine.
And a bottle of Carnivora.
Yes.
And Tanko products.
Butt hurt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
His post was.
Now, let me ask you guys this: is he purposely being vague, or is that just his nature?
I mean, is he saying things in a vague manner just to start people up?
Or is it just because he doesn't feel like sharing every single detail of his personal life with a bunch of people on the internet?
He has a Facebook.
That says a lot right there.
I've talked to him on Facebook and chat.
I mean, back before he started his, it started and ended his show.
So, I mean, he was actually going out and engaging with people because I'm a nobody.
Why would he respond to my desperate chat attempt with him?
Right.
Oh, don't be modest.
We know that you are actually Rupert Murdoch.
No, actually, Keith Rowland.
And you're the sidekick to the spec sheet.
That's right.
See, maybe it's because he.
Let me clear my throat.
Sorry.
As a sidekick, I need to have a clear voice.
Yeah.
He put me in my box immediately.
The fact that he can say a few words and several people, maybe a couple of hundred make something out of that.
I'm not quite sure what that says.
It does say something, but people have a lot of time in their hands.
Maybe that's it.
I'm sure Art wants to keep a finger on the pulse, so to speak, of what's going on out there.
I sometimes think he's really, really good at that.
And other times I think he doesn't have a clue.
I think he probably knows a lot more about where he's going, what he wants to do than all of us together have.
And I don't know what that really means.
I don't know where he's going to go.
I do think he's going to have another show.
And somebody speculated on the forum that it might only be one or two days a week with other people filling in.
And I think that would be a great idea.
Yeah.
You heard the rumor that Michael Van Dieven's going to be hosting the second slot for his show.
Wow.
Did you start that rumor just now?
I just started it.
Yeah.
I have no basis for it.
Wow.
Insight sources from Portland tell me that I don't want to cause bad blood between anybody.
But here comes the butt.
But I would gain another 50 years of life if Michael Van Diemen walked in and shit on Keith Roland.
I would become a devout Christian because I would know there truly is a God.
Well, there'd have to be in order for someone to be that cooperative with someone pooping on them.
It's not like you could chase them around while you're trying to poop on them.
You have to basically, okay, fine, let's get this over with.
You haven't heard of drive-by pooping?
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, you almost have to start before you get over them, you know, start pushing before you get over.
That's a horrible way to start your day.
That's a lot of planning.
It's a lot of pre-planning.
Drink coffee, check.
It's a steel far check.
You know what?
We managed to get a poop story in, and Jazz Munda isn't even here tonight.
We don't need that guy after all.
Jazz Munda would be very proud.
I'm really worried for America because Jasmunda's in America right now.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, you know what, you guys?
I have a message from the former president of the United States regarding Jasmunda in America.
Next time our borders get taken over by Jazz Munda, whoever this is, stupid terrorists, we're going to blame him.
Did I lose you guys?
No.
Oh, I see.
Okay, so Jazz is calling in right now, and he's calling in on the wrong Skype account.
So we'll just add him to the conference.
That's a great timing.
Hey, Jazz, what's up, buddy?
Hey, I don't like it when people talk shit about me and I'm not there to defend myself.
Are you actually listening to the show?
I am.
Oh, awesome.
And I've just called in because I can tell you guys are struggling without me.
So I thought I would lend my expertise to this little party.
And it sounds like you're appropriately, you are in the bathroom, it sounds like.
I am actually in the bathroom because I didn't want to disturb my wife who's resting in the other room.
Sounds like a rather sizable bathroom, too.
Do you have a suite there in Las Vegas?
Well, not quite a suite, but it's got a bath and a shower and a toilet.
Wow, does it have a bidet as well?
No, we're not that classy.
Really?
Yeah, I've never ever once ever used a bidet.
Well, if you wipe properly, you don't need to.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
So did we lose the other hosts here?
Are the rest of you guys still there?
No, you know what?
I lost.
I think I clicked add you to the conference, Jazz.
We don't really need them, do we?
No, I guess not.
I mean, it's going pretty well.
Just you and me.
So let me see what I can do here.
Do you have a story you want to update us?
Tell us about your trip or tell us about your thread even?
Well, if you've been following the thread, you know everything that's basically been happening, any of the really adult stuff.
Yeah, pretty much everything that's on there is everything I've been experiencing.
Yeah.
It seems to be pretty popular, too.
Yeah, yeah.
It seems to be staying on topic, so that's a good thing.
And you're a much better writer than I previously had thought.
I mean, you usually don't write very much.
You usually just write a couple sentences and that's it.
That's true.
Usually I just do some little sniping comment or some immature thing.
But yeah, I used to be an okay writer, so I thought I should put my talents to good use.
Yeah, I don't know how to get the rest of the hosts back on the air.
Do you want to ditch me?
Yeah, do you want to hang up and call back?
Yeah, sure.
Or do you want to just hang up and not call back?
No, I can call back if you want me.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I mean, if you're busy, I mean, come on.
We don't want to take time away from your vacation.
Yeah, hang up and give us a call back.
I'll call back.
All right, man.
Let's see.
Okay, so there goes Jazz.
And let's see if I can get the rest of the host.
See, okay, what it did is I put him on hold.
Okay, so how do I resume call?
There we go.
Are you guys back?
Yes.
Okay, there we go.
Sorry, so when Jazz called in, oh, I should have told him to call in on the 623-242-2278 number, too.
So when he called in, I clicked add to conference, but for some reason, it put the rest of you guys on hold.
And I didn't realize that until, I don't know, a couple minutes into the conversation when I didn't hear you guys chime in.
So Jazz.
Jajmunda is taking a giant dump on the Gabcast.
He is.
He just completely ruined it, even though he's not with us.
Fucking jerk, man.
So could you guys hear the conversation when you were on hold?
No, the funny thing is the same thing happened to me on the spec sheet, and I just turned on the stream and listened to Ed.
So I was listening to the conversation on delay.
Okay.
Was he in the bathroom?
Yeah, he was.
Okay, it sounded like it.
He was in the back cave.
Okay, yeah.
So he is calling on the caller line now.
So let me just decline this.
I don't want to talk about it.
Thanks, Jazz, for ruining the whole fucking show.
Thank you.
You call that a call?
He doesn't want to disturb me.
I'm not going to do that.
Jazz, are you on the toilet right now?
I'm very close to it, but I'm not actually sitting.
Flush it for us, please.
That's not a good day, man.
This actually, this toilet sounds like a jet engine.
Listen to this.
Does it flush the wrong direction?
Yes, to me it does.
Is that our first flush on the gabcast?
Yes, it is.
I'm just honored that I was here for that.
It was another classic moment.
Every time Mud King joins us on the air, it's like the best Gabcast ever, like classic moments, you know, in Gabcast history.
We should do this once every six months.
Maybe once every year.
Well, okay, I got my hopes up there.
Hey, Jazz, can we hear the tiger?
The tiger, what?
What's the Sig Friedom Royce tiger?
Well, don't you have a tiger in your hotel room?
Yes, the hangover.
Sorry.
I wasn't sure which Las Vegas reference you were.
There's so many.
Actually, it was a you pick them moment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's bloody hot where I am right now.
Now, you know why I complain so much about it?
I can understand why people carry guns in Vegas or in Nevada.
Yeah, they go fucking crazy.
In this heat, yeah.
I really think the cops, the cop cars, there's two cops in the front seat and in between them, a shotgun.
It's always a good look.
You're not going to fuck with those guys.
And a hooker in the back.
Yes.
In the trunk, hopefully.
In the trunk, yeah.
So, Jazz, did you read the Art Bell's post on Facebook this week?
Yeah, I did.
What did you think about it?
Which post are we referring to?
The post about his sore back or the back, and then didn't he say there's more to come or something's on the horizon or give some sort of other vague comment?
Did he say something, or was there something that someone posted on Bellgab about Jimmy Church mentioning that there was some other?
Oh, yeah, there was that too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what it was.
Yeah.
So I think that's what.
I don't think Art actually said anything.
Well, Art said something about his back.
Yeah, yeah, but that's, I mean, he's had a sore back for years and years and years.
So I mean, that doesn't mean he's coming back.
Yeah, it does.
He said back.
And it's exactly, that's how I read it.
That's cam radio speak for I'll be back on August time on the clock.
And the way that everything was positioned was very symbolic of a meaning.
And therefore, I conclude that he will be back next week.
Are you speaking all in caps right now, BW?
I am.
Hey, hey, I am an ordained member of the Scorpion Army.
Be careful.
They're one of my favorite bands.
Portland Scorpions.
I'm the Muncie Scorpions branch.
Nice.
Onan, are you still with us?
No, looks like a lot of people.
He's lost Onan.
Lost Owen.
He is winding down.
Let me see if I can call him back.
Oh, he's going to be so pissed off when he comes back on the air.
Was he on call?
Did he say anything about being on call tonight?
Do you guys?
No, no.
Because it shows that he's still connected to Skype.
Yeah, he's typing right now.
Oh, I guess he just said that he just said that he hated everyone.
Yeah, he said this is the worst show ever, and he's asking you to leave.
But that's irrelevant to what we're talking about here.
Yes, it is.
I guess he's on hold.
Or he asked if he's still on hold.
This is one giant cluster fuck.
Yeah, it is.
I guess, I don't know if he's still on hold or not.
I don't know.
Let me check and see.
I don't know how to see that.
Why don't you guys talk amongst yourselves while I try to work this out?
I would like to share a humorous paranormal story.
Turns out that apparently there are people in the world that like to sit on Google Earth and just scroll around the earth and zoom in and out and try and looking for things that they can have a connection fit about.
Yeah.
And apparently some guy was doing this and found something that looks like a UFO with an alien sticking his head out.
And that's been news.
Do you have the coordinates for it?
Oh, that's a good question.
Let me see if I can pull that puppy up.
Searching.
Searching.
You have lost your connection.
Please re-dial.
Oh, here it is.
I'll put this in the chat room and see if anyone can.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
Wasn't there a kid who painted a giant penis on his roof so that it would get captured by Google?
Yeah.
Oh, here are the coordinates.
Well, there's a church, wasn't there, that had a basically a shape within a penis or the church.
That was just a building, wasn't it?
Was it a building or a church?
Because I like to think God has a sense of humor.
And there was also, wasn't there the body of a dead kid was on a few of those where people are naked people.
They see the Google car coming and they lay down on the road or do something strange.
I saw one where there was a family in a park and there was these kids all running around and then there was this guy with a mask and he was holding the gun on one of the parents or something.
But it was a toy gun.
I mean, it was a put-up.
You know, it was fake.
Have you seen the dock out on like a lake or an ocean that looks like a dead body was dragged on it?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
I love that one.
I have not seen it.
I'd like to thank Jazz Munda for channeling the disembodied spirit of George Norrie talking about dead kids.
Thanks.
Thanks so much.
Ah, yes.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm not doing very good on my George Norris soundboard tonight.
You're going to have to work on that, man.
Yeah.
Did you guys read the nice little facts thread that MV started?
Yes, it's one of my favorites now.
I've learned so much from it already.
It's actually a pretty good thread.
I didn't think it was going to go very far, but it's amazing some of the stuff that's being brought up.
Somebody brought up like a phobia, which is called Tapa, or I don't know how to pronounce this.
Tapioca phobia.
Tapioca phobia, yeah.
Which is a fear of being buried alive.
And then somebody else posted something about a safety casket that they used to be.
This used to be a big thing back in the 1800s, mid-1800s, and maybe even early 1900s.
Yeah, I was going to say, I think earlier than that.
Was it?
Is it even earlier than the 1800s?
I'm going back because you've heard the saying that doesn't ring a bell or that rings a bell.
Yeah.
That's what that saying is from because they used to put some sort of gadget in the coffin so that if you weren't really dead, you could pull on a string and the bell would ring so somebody would know to dig you up.
That blows my mind.
That's where that phrase comes from.
Wow.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah, I'm going back to like the 1400s, but I don't know.
I'm not even sure they buried people in the 1400s.
So there's that.
Well, that brings up another kind of tangent because this was all new to me as far as the phobia and safety coffins and all that until I saw that thread.
But burying people, is that something that's like if you watch modern TV shows about medieval times and older, you burned everybody.
You built a funeral prior or you put them out in the water, you know, all the ways that they sensationalize the honor death.
But back in the old days, the 1400s, when someone died, what did they do?
Did they bury them the way we do now, or is it a totally different process?
I have no idea.
I'm sure at one point, you know, a long time ago, people died and they kept them nearby because they loved them, and then they started to stink, and they said, we got to do something about that.
So they probably started burying.
I mean, it goes back to at least the days of the pharaohs and that because they entombed people in sarcophagi.
Right.
But that was something that you had to have a certain stature in society, right?
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Not everyone got.
Sometimes you just got thrown in a ditch.
But yeah, I guess that's where I'm going with it.
Was back in the day for the average pauper, were they burned or were they buried in some nation?
So what day are we talking about?
I guess let's go before Christ, probably.
Because obviously we know the story pretty well from documentation from there.
Let's say before him, back in Roman and earlier.
There are lots of different cultural beliefs about how to conduct a burial.
Some people were burnt, buried.
Sufis, I believe, and I think this is true of Indians too, some American Indian tribes, but Sufis would put you on top of a high, high pedestal that would be up above the city so that the eyes, the birds could come and pluck your eyes out.
And the idea was that the birds would take your eyes and take you to go and that would take you to heaven.
That was basically the one part of yourself that was carried on.
Yeah, well, that was where your soul was, and they carried it up in the heaven and blah, blah, blah.
Of course, the reality is that the dead got up of a slab that's suspended above the city, and that's just disgusting.
Yeah.
So I don't think that's not really maybe in some parts in Southeast Asia, some remote parts that's still observed, but for health reasons, it's basically been abolished, I think.
But they suspended them above the city as their burial or as a punishment or as to ward off thieves?
Or was that their burial thing?
That was how they got them to heaven.
Oh, okay, I see.
So they didn't burn them, they just stuck them up.
They'd just be stuck on a slab above the city.
Birds would come and feed on them.
Oh, man.
Trade wasn't really that good with their neighbors.
Yeah.
I mean, wasn't there something in Native American Indian culture where they did that?
Yeah, well, I think it's, I don't know if it's the Cheyenne or, you're thinking of Deadwood, right?
Yeah.
Yes, I am.
Was it a Comanche or Apache?
I don't know.
It was in the Dakota territory.
That's all I know.
I don't know what.
They buried him on top of the hill on top of a little fort thing, and then that was so they could see the sun come up.
Yeah, he was facing east or something, and his horse, his dead horse was underneath him, and there was like a little structure that he built that they built out of wood sticks or something that was ordained with religious.
I'm just a dumb European.
I don't know anything about that.
Yeah.
Well, Wikipedia says that human burial goes back over 100,000 years.
And the first human remains with red ochre were found in Israel.
File that under common sense.
Maybe that's evidence that common sense actually exists.
It's not a myth.
Common sense is not a myth.
People were smart enough to bury their dead.
Well, they probably had to figure it out for a while, though.
If common sense is built into us, then why are so many people lacking it these days?
TV?
Okay.
Mass education.
Honey boo-boo.
That's part of it.
That and Jasmunda will be the death of the U.S. As society gets more complex, common sense seems to be more lacking.
The fact of the matter is that when you live in a tense situation or in a tense environment, the chances are you're going to not make the best decision.
No, that's true.
Isn't that really the moral of the Matrix trilogy, too?
That no one really knew how Zion was built, but they used it anyway.
Yes.
Yeah.
Sure, why not?
I love to try to assign more cultural significance to that trilogy than the really, oh, my God.
It's just a movie.
It's not real.
It was one good movie and two shitty movies.
Exactly.
I would personally like to thank, on behalf of Americans Everywhere, I want to thank the Jasmundas for stimulating the U.S. economy.
Mrs. Jasmunda has been spending money like crazy, which has been stimulating the economy.
But also, Jasmunda and his chronic bowel disorder has been giving all creating all kinds of work for plumbers everywhere.
Well, I thought the way he was paying for his gambling was by stimulating FinWood economy, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not too happy with gambling at the moment.
It's not my friend.
I thought it was easy.
That's what they make it look like on all the movies.
Yeah, you just win.
It's easy to win.
Sure.
Everybody wins.
It is easy, man.
You just haven't played long enough.
Go back.
Yeah, I think I need a really pretty woman to blow the dice for me.
And don't forget to get a drink before you start.
I'm hoping your wife's not listening to the...
She's not.
She's asleep in the other room.
Be horrified if she ever heard my behavior on the gabcast.
Has she ever listened to even one show?
No.
Have you even told her that you?
Yes, I have.
She's not interested.
Lucky me.
I think I like this woman.
I don't want to listen to the fucking internet.
I think that all of the shows that we do, we need to have a significant others-only show because that would be awesome.
Yes, that would be funny.
Yeah, this is what you would hear from my significant other.
I wish that mine was like that.
That'd be awful.
Unfortunately, blow-up dolls don't talk at the moment.
Is that clear?
Yeah.
Yeah, they do if you put your hand up of the hole and move its mouth.
It seems like this conversation alone because my wife does listen.
It seems like the quality of the call on B-Dub and Curtis has dropped off.
It seems like you're talking through muddy water or something.
It's probably because when you fucked everything up when Jazz called, we tried to rejoin, and it's been fucked up ever since.
It's all my fault.
Jazz continues to take a giant dump on the Gabcast.
Thanks.
Well, Jazz called in on the actual caller line, so that's good.
But yeah, maybe you guys are still screwed up from the remnants of the Jazz Munda storm that blew through my regular Skype username here.
Do you guys want to hang up and call back?
Sure.
Do I want to?
Not really.
Well, I can just do it right here without your approval.
Oh, well, fine.
Fuck you very much.
We're going to dump the line.
So now I'm asking people, the host, to actually hang up from the show.
And just me and Onin and Jazz Munda.
All right.
B-Dub is back.
Yes, I am.
See, that sounds a lot better.
And now I think he dropped everyone else, man.
No, Onin's still here.
I'm still here.
Curtis isn't back yet, though.
He's a little slow.
He's a ginger.
So he's kind of small.
Yeah, he's retarded.
I wouldn't go that fast.
He's a ginger, and he's from Indiana.
So he's two whammies.
Good point.
Good point.
Okay, so while we're waiting for him to call in, going back to that safety casket thing, did you guys realize that, Onan, you mentioned that there's a bell.
So people can, if they reanimate or they were buried mistakenly, they can ring it.
There was also, they put in breathing tubes.
And in some cases, they also put in like smelling tubes.
So the priest or whoever was checking the cemetery every day, they'd walk to the new caskets and they'd smell.
There was a tube going down and they'd smell for putrefaction.
And if they didn't smell it, then they dug the body up.
You can't pay me enough for that job.
What's my job description?
Did you guys read that I went out with a girl in high school who had a grandmother who, well, supposedly passed away and then a few days later woke up in the morgue?
I was going to ask you if that was a because it was so perfectly placed that I wondered if it was a real story or you're just.
It's an absolute real story.
And like I was going out with this girl, so I went through the whole, you know, mourning process where everyone was crying and so sad and, you know, I was around the family.
And then like it went from – I don't know why that's funny.
It went from being the saddest pulse to the happiest event.
And the woman lived for another 17 years.
I only have one thing to say about that.
They needed a different doctor.
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
I don't know.
I know if she's really drunk or what?
Must have been.
Did they say she had some sort of condition that made her appear as though she wasn't breathing and she didn't have a pulse?
Knew what the medical condition was or the explanation.
I don't, unfortunately.
Thank God that they didn't rush her off to get her embalmed.
Yeah.
I would think the embalmer.
Don't they have to embalm bodies before they cremate them?
Yeah.
Why would they waste embalming fluid on someone they were just going to make an extra buck?
It's a conspiracy, man.
It might be flammable.
That whole mortuary embalming and the whole services, that's, I mean, they really screw people over.
And it's almost criminal.
Yeah, it's almost criminal some of the stuff that they charge, you know.
Do we still sound like shit?
No, we're sounding better.
Although we're talking over each other, but that's all right.
Yeah.
At least it sounds good.
At least it sounds good while we're talking over each other.
Many years ago, I worked for a printing company, and one of our big clients was a coffin manufacturer.
So like once a year, we would print their pricing catalogs.
And let me tell you, you're getting boned when you buy a coffin.
Yeah.
I came into the world that way.
Might as well go out, too, getting screwed.
Nice.
You know, I've gone through the process of being told that I was dying.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
When I was 17 years old, they thought I had been really bad sick for months, really, and they couldn't figure out what the problem was.
No.
Exactly, sir.
Sorry.
George, that's not.
I like to talk to him.
So ultimately, I got so bad sick that I was put into the hospital.
And again, I'm 17 years old.
The moment they put me in and do the initial check of me, they put me in a room by myself.
And the next time someone comes in to talk to me, they're in like they have all the cover on their face, gloves everywhere, being totally isolated from me.
And then everyone who came to see me was like that.
Then they put me in a room that truly isolated me, and no one wanted to really tell me what was going on.
And my mother, who had multiple sclerosis, I remember the moment that she pulled off the mask that she was wearing.
She's like, this isn't going to be whatever it is you think he has isn't going to be the thing that kills me.
I don't care.
And so she's the only person who didn't wear some kind of protection when she was around me.
That was great.
Yeah, well, I spent two weeks in the hospital and they decided.
What did I say was wrong?
Well, they thought I had meningitis in my brain and that I had swelling, and the outlook wasn't that good, I guess.
No.
Yes.
Was it just because of the red hair?
That didn't confuse them?
Yeah.
Well, that was a separate condition that I still haven't gotten over.
But I take medicine every day for it.
But it's called rat poison.
I don't know if you've heard that.
Oh, really?
Well, so anyway, of course, I live in a small town.
So everyone finds out about it.
Everyone's calling me.
Pretty much the whole town comes together to say their goodbyes to me and tell me how they feel.
My God.
Did you think that maybe this was a hint?
Yeah.
Well, the crazy thing is I was maybe I still am today, but I was extremely self-centered and didn't, my wife had really no perspective to it, like most 17-year-olds are.
Yeah, that's what the team's supposed to be doing.
Exactly.
Well, so I went through all the planning of, hey, I'm dying of this, and I really don't even know what it is.
Meningitis meant nothing to me at the time.
So anyway, I really came to terms with the fact that I'm human.
I'm going to die.
That's just the way life is.
So I really was comfortable with myself.
Then they put me through a whole series of tests with like spinal taps and you name it.
Oh, those are terrible.
Oh, my God.
Well, here's the thing.
Like two days after I do the spinal tap, my doctor comes in and he says, I've got some good news for you.
And I'm like, okay, what's that?
Am I dying tomorrow?
What's the deal?
He says, you have scarlet fever.
And I think that's even worse.
So I'm like, oh, God, you know, here I go.
And he's like, no, we can deal with this now that we know what it is.
That's a good thing.
Yeah, we can totally take care of it.
It's not at all as bad as we thought it was.
But I was really bad.
I was weak.
I had a heart murmur as a result of it for a while.
It's temporary.
Yeah.
So you live each day to the fullest because of that scare you had when you were young.
No, I figured I got all the good days taken care of before that.
Now he's just masturbating that much more.
Exactly.
Just get as much in as possible.
Sounds like a lot of ticket movie of the week to me.
I'll never forget calling my girlfriend at the time.
All right, I'm going to hang up on Jazz.
Jesus.
I'm kidding.
Go ahead.
I'm not.
Do it.
I do.
Throw that off, you bastard.
It's the only time I'm going to be able to do it.
You call that a knife?
So anyway, I remember being on several medications to ease the pain and everything that I was going through and calling my girlfriend because I didn't want her to go through the pain of having her boyfriend die.
You cut out there for a little bit.
Yeah, I lost you.
Calling your girl and then nothing.
Okay, so I broke up with her in the middle of the night one night because I thought any day was going to be the day that I would die.
So I didn't want her to have to go through the pain of her boyfriend being dead.
So I had the thought in my mind, well, I'm going to break up with her and spare her all this pain.
Very noble cause, sir.
How ridiculous was that?
Yeah.
Indeed.
Yeah, I've had a lot of girlfriends do that to me, and they never actually die.
Actually, that did work out really well, I guess.
I'm dying next week.
I need to break up with you.
All right.
Here's my final part to the story.
There's more?
Well, this is just a dumb aside.
So anyway, after this happened, I'm in a weird spot in my life now compared to everyone else I know because I came to terms with my failures and everything, and I accepted it for what it was.
I realized that the nothingness that happened afterwards wasn't going to, nothing I was going to do is going to change that.
So I accepted life for what it was.
So I had to have my wisdom teeth taken out not long after that.
And before the anesthesiologist or whoever it is that comes in to put you to sleep for that part of it, I looked at the person and I said, I probably won't wake up from this and I'm okay with that.
And the person freaked out, called my parents, and they thought I was suicidal.
They had to explain that.
No, he just went through a really mentally crazy experience.
And he just accepts the fact.
So anyway, I'm on borrowed time.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't actually die, but I could have.
When you tell that story, I imagine your doctor being like a redneck version of house.
That would have been awesome.
Now, the funny thing is that if I understood right, scarlet fever is like strep throat that doesn't get caught as it goes through the more advanced stages.
So the thing I always wondered is, should I go back to the doctor if he missed for months scarlet fever or missed struck threat?
Might be time to get a new doc.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, actually, as you were telling the story, I was thinking maybe scarlet fever.
And I'm not a doctor.
Wow, Owen already diagnosed over the phone.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Like 17 years ago.
Wow.
It's a much more common illness than meningitis.
And it doesn't present the same way.
So I'm like, what's going on with his doc?
Maybe he drinks a bit.
Well, he should have shared it with me.
It is Indiana, so.
Right.
Well, we really don't have doctors here.
We have a guy who stops by on his horse every six months.
He says, anyone feeling bad?
Yep, you're dying.
Did you guys see?
I think we should move on to a different topic, don't you?
I think after Mud King.
Let's start talking about the ginger from Indiana for a little while.
I was going to talk about John B. Wells alluding to how shitty Belgab was.
Yeah, let's do that.
Okay.
Did you guys see where John B. Wells said that Belgab was shitty?
Well, I don't pay attention to John B. Wells, but I do pay attention to Belgab, and I noticed that some people on Belgab are talking about that.
Yeah.
I actually didn't hear the comment, but I think Big Chuck posted a transcript of what he said.
He could have.
Are we going to have Jazz read that in his sexy voice?
I don't have it with me, but what happened with a thread?
I'll read out John B. Wells.
What's that, Jazz?
Was it because of a thread about John B. Wells?
Well, you know, in the podcast thread, there's a Caravan to Midnight thread.
It was in there that.
Happened to people take pot shots at him or something.
Yeah, there's people that aren't too nice to him.
I think that's mostly the majority of the people that post in there say that he's a hack or they don't like his shows.
He doesn't deserve nice because he's such an asshole saying that all the school shootings are false flag.
Fuck him.
Yeah, it was Sandy Hook.
Him saying that we fuck is high praise.
So that's all.
I could care less.
He was the voice of the Craig Kilbourne show, though.
Fuck him.
Really?
That's just not the reason to ignore him because the Craig Kilbourne shows sucked ass.
Yeah, but I like Craig Kilbourne.
When he was on the daily show, it was awesome.
Yeah, he's a little bit more.
You just like Craig Kilbourne because he's from Indiana.
Is he?
And he's sort of quasi-ginger.
I didn't know he was from Indiana.
I made that up.
I just lost respect for him.
And maybe you.
Speaking of school shootings, every time I've seen a school while I've been in the U.S., I crossed the strait.
You go on the other side of the road.
Wise choice.
Never mind.
Jazz, you realize, of course, that gunfire is just how we greet each other here in America.
I've learnt that now.
That's just how we say hi.
Yeah, a lot of gangs have gone away from doing gang signs, and they just shoot now.
The caliber of bullet you shoot is a sign of respect.
Yeah, 22, you know, that's just, I don't know.
I was going to try to say something hilarious right there, but I lost my train of thought.
Failed.
So that's it.
Because I was thinking about what John B. Wells said, and I think he said something along the lines of those guys over there at something gab are a bunch of losers or I don't have it word for word, but yeah.
So I think there was a few people.
And he also said something along the lines of, why don't they start their own show so we can criticize them?
I mean, why don't we?
I really think that's a horrible idea.
That's a great idea.
If you could get him on the show, would you guys interview him?
Sure.
Fuck no.
You wouldn't?
Okay.
So, B-W, you're going to want to break the tie.
Yay or nay?
Don't hurt yourself.
Sure.
But I wouldn't be very respectful.
Well, have you listened to this guy?
He's an idiot.
And he sounds never mind.
There's really not anything about him that's redeeming.
I don't find it to be very interesting.
I mean, he's got a good radio voice, but there's not a lot of depth behind it.
Yeah.
Have you heard of it?
I've been like 19 minutes, so I'm probably not the expert on this guy.
Have you heard on, I think it's on YouTube, there's audio of him without his sound processor?
Hi, guys.
I'm John B. Wells.
Welcome to the show tonight.
Basically, yeah.
I don't know if it was Doc. Sandy Hook was a false flag.
Any guy who has a lot of respect from Alex Jones has already proven himself to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you could interview Alex Jones, would you?
No.
Okay.
I would interview him, but what I would do is I would act like I was interviewing him, but then not record it.
And then between tapes.
You just cut out right at the pivotal moment in his story.
Say the last sentence there, B-Dub.
I would act like I was recording him and then keep recording him when he was – I'd say we'd take a break and it would be like a candid behind-the-scenes moment and he would just be saying whatever because I know he would just shove his ass.
But do you think he would go out of character?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
I don't think Alex Jones is ever out of character.
I think he is batshit crazy 24-7.
Maybe the case.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's got to be some part of his personality.
Kind of like bulldog, douchebag kind of guy, you know.
I don't think he's that good of an actor to be able to do that as an actor.
I could see that.
You could be right with that.
Yeah, I mean, you may be right.
Okay, well, then how about Art?
Is Art a character?
Art Bell.
No, I don't think he's a character.
To some extent, he's a performer when the mic's on.
He's doing a show.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I don't think that he truly believes all the paranormal stuff that he talks about on the show, even though he sounds like he's interested and he's amazed at some of the stuff that some of his guests are talking about.
So I think that he plays along in that way, but I don't think he's misrepresenting who he is or playing some sort of over-the-top character or anything.
This is something I'd not in general conversation, so I'll kind of hold back a little bit, but I think Art Bell is genuine when he's on the radio, and I think that is pretty much what he's like.
I think what you hear is really what's there.
Hell, I'll just say it.
I think he's really talented in his ability to interview someone, but I don't think, and I don't mean this as negatively as it's going to sound, but I don't think he's that intellectually motivated to really know the depth of what he's talking about.
I think he really thinks that where he's at is as deep as it gets.
And I so you could contrast that with Ian Punnett, who really tries to delve maybe too deep into a subject.
Yeah, I have a whole different complaint with Ian Punnett, but yeah, I think Ian Punnett probably can disseminate an issue much more deeply than Art could.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
But he also talks.
I'm not trying to say this in a bad way towards art because I think you don't get much better than that when it comes to interviews.
Well, his good interviews happen when he gets away from the main subject and gets people talking about the things that surround the subject.
He's really good at that.
I think so.
Well, I think that's what, in my point of view, most really good interviewers, you get someone who comes on the air and they've thought out what it is they're going to talk about.
They've got their spiel, whether it was a personal experience, a product, whatever, or a theory, and they really want to stick to that subject.
And Art does a good job of talking about the subject with them, but also asking them other questions that sort of seem random.
And it takes them a little bit out of it, but they still end up talking about it.
What I consider the classic shows are like that, where he gets them away from it.
Because like with Hoagland, I would love to see what a conversation between those two in the real world is like.
Does Hoagland amp it or take it down a couple notches?
And do they talk about sports or whatever it is they're interested in?
They talk about Asian Poontang.
Well, that's something they both probably support for sure.
But the interviews that make Hoagland the legend he is aren't just where he went crazy.
When I say legend, I say that with a smile on my face.
They're not just where he's talking about the phases on Mars and all that.
It's when he starts to get into other things with art and talking about his past or at least his interpretation of his past.
I think those are more interesting than throwing out the same theory over and over again.
I think it's why I don't like Ed Dames that much because Ed Dames doesn't have any other extra layers to him.
Yeah, I never understood how Ed Dames got on that show so often because he was so one-dimensional.
Yeah.
You know, and if you kind of take a if you just take his audio and just play it and just listen for the metrics, the audios, it's all the same.
You know, he sounds all his responses are pretty much the same way.
They're cut and dried.
There's not a great deal of emotional inflection.
It's not like he's like he's very guarded in what he says and he doesn't want to get off his script.
Would you say he sounds unemotional to the point of like being a psychopath or a sociopath?
No.
If you had to read him?
Well, that's kind of a hard question to answer.
Well, this is a gab cast, man.
Pull up your boots.
Well, then I got to qualify and say that most sociopaths, true sociopaths, have a very charming personality about them and will engage you in a very fluid conversation.
And Ed Dames is unable to do that.
He's just a boring ass.
I like when Dames is on with George Nori and he's always smacking Norrie down.
I mean, he's always disagreeing with Nori and saying, no, no, George, that's not right.
That's not what I said.
You know, he's always doing that with George, and he seems to be cranky.
I don't know.
I didn't want to turn this into a why I hate Ed Dames.
I started it.
It's okay.
Nobody hate mail to me.
It's Michael Van Dennitte.
Basically, he's even a smug bastard.
Yeah.
Well, I never really thought smug with him, but maybe you're right, because he does really.
He goes on and on about his accuracy, even though it's been proven time and again to not be true.
And his response is: if he was asked a question that kind of went off tangent, his response was something that's occurred as no, it doesn't work like that.
Yeah.
You know, rather than try to explain the nuance, he just stuck to this very basic script that I know more than you, and don't question me.
Yeah, sorry, was someone else talking?
Yeah, more of a narcissist.
Hard to say.
More of a parent.
Certainly.
More of a paranormalist, probably than anything.
That really should be.
Onin, you need to become famous for coining the phrase paranormalist in some kind of medical sense.
I never said that word.
No, I'm saying you need to take it and do that.
Yeah, we're giving it to you.
I think it's a great affliction.
You need to put a TM after that and trademark it, buddy.
Yeah, man.
You can make millions.
Yeah, just fulky.
You'll be buying property everywhere.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, like Monopoly.
Guys, yeah.
Looks like that's almost going to be a done deal.
So.
Anyway, sorry.
I need to go.
Hey, Jazz, you said you had something?
You have a better name.
Yes.
Wait, what's that?
Onen, you have to jet?
You have to go?
Yeah, I got to get out of here pretty soon.
Okay.
Go ahead, Jazz.
All right.
I just had a little game that I'd like to play called Guess Which Dead President.
Okay, so how do we play this game?
How do you play this?
So I'm just going to tell you a piece of your.
I'm going to name a currency, and you're going to tell me which dead president adorns that currency.
Oh, okay.
What's the name of the Iraqi president?
Well, I'm going to use your U.S. currency that I'm currently holding.
Hold on, hold on, let me get my wallet.
No, no cheating, no peeking, no internet.
Okay, $50 bill.
Grant, grant, grant.
Oh, good one.
$20.
Jackson.
Jefferson.
Good one.
I said Jackson.
Which one's correct?
Jackson?
Okay.
Yeah.
Yes.
10.
Hamilton.
Good one.
Correct.
$5.
Lincoln.
Lincoln.
Yeah, you should know the $1 note.
Washington.
Yep.
And that's the one that I have mostly.
For the jackpot, $100.
Franklin.
Franklin, yeah.
Who's on the $2 bill, though?
But he's not a president, though.
Is that a Jefferson?
Oh, is that.
Jefferson is a $2, I believe.
Is it?
Yeah, Franklin your president.
I always thought it was like Edgar Allan Poe or something.
On the $2 bill?
I think it was Don Will Smooth.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, that's what it was.
So are there non-presidents on the am I led to believe that there are people who aren't presidents?
Yeah, Franklin was not a president.
And Hamilton, did someone say on the chat room?
Was Hamilton?
Or did he just sign the declaration?
Hamilton was on the $10 bill.
Who's on the $1,000 bill?
That's what I want you to tell me.
I know who that is.
That's Wilson.
Yeah, you're right.
It's Wilson.
Unfortunately, they wouldn't change that one for me.
Oh, wait, what's this?
Which one is Mr. Burns on?
Is that the million-dollar bill?
Do you remember that episode?
Can I tell you, every time I've used a $100 or $50 bill here, I get the dirtiest looks.
That's a new thing.
They always hold it up, hold it up to the light, or they get one of those marker pens and draw a line on it.
Don't people trust people here?
No.
What denomination?
$100 or $50?
Huh.
Yeah, I was surprised at a place.
When they do that to me, seriously, when somebody takes my 50 and takes that special pen and draws a line across, when they give him my change back, I ask to borrow their pen.
That's a good one.
Thank you.
You just sit there and mark each bill and give them a dirty look each time you do it.
I'm going to do that.
Hold it up to the light.
Yes.
Thank you.
Good one, Onum.
That's really funny.
I do that with a lot of people more than because basically they're saying, we think you're a thief.
Well, I was thinking about that.
I was quite insulted the first few times, but then I thought they're just doing it.
You're not doing it because of me.
I mean, someone could have given me a false one.
So they're just sort of protecting themselves.
But yes.
Yeah, the employee's just covering his own ass.
It's not the guy at the ticket counter that's you know, he's he's just following what he's been told to do.
Of course, of course.
But somebody in that management has made the decision that you are a thief.
Yes.
I bet you the places that do it more often are the places that actually got handed forged notes before.
Because if you, if you're in, if you have a forged note or you pass a forged note, you lose that.
You lose that money.
I mean, if a vendor takes that money, they don't get a replacement $20 bill or a $100 bill.
That money is fucking gone.
I mean, you can't get it.
I've been kissing back when I was younger.
I worked in retail, and they had told us to be on the lookout for, there was like 20s or 50s that were fake that people are passing around in the area.
And I found one of them.
A person was coming through my line.
I see it, do the thing where I look at it, and they immediately caught on to what I was doing, and they just left.
They weren't going to waste their time.
Yeah.
Well, the problem is I go to my boss and I say, here's a fake 20 I got.
They call the police to come over and ask me what they look like and everything.
And I got grilled.
How would I, they wanted to know how I would know what a fake $20 bill looks like.
I was like, you know, I'm not the one who used this.
Why are you coming after me?
It's like you're grilling me.
That's that cunning Indiana police.
That's right.
They're on a whole other level.
Listen, boy, we're on to you and your fancy observational skills.
Where'd you learn how fake money looks?
No, they basically just blame everybody.
If the real criminal gets away, they blame innocent bystanders and grill them until they confess.
But every police officer has a quota for how many gingers in a year they actually are able to incarcerate.
And I understand.
I was one of them.
I almost became a number in the system.
Oh, man.
They had already died.
But you were lucky.
That bailout got it.
If you think, yeah, so when they profile gingers, they typically throw the rule book out because there are so few.
They just usually just take you straight to jail.
Yeah, the weird thing is I called a lawyer to try to maintain my rights.
And they said, no, we can't help you.
We only help people with souls.
You don't have a soul.
You're a lawyer.
That was the weirdest part of almost dying is when you get close to the light and the light says, oh, nope, sorry, wrong person.
No wrong line.
You know what?
I'd almost want to be a ghost now because I saw that there's a news ghost hunter show out there.
It's called Pretty Paranormal.
And it's five Playboy Playmates that go out and they hunt for ghosts.
Nothing paranormal about what I'm thinking.
I know.
I wonder if they do it topless.
What's that, Ona?
My pants are haunted.
You got some good singers tonight, buddy.
That's flyer.
Do you guys want to talk about Game of Thrones or do you want to shut it down?
I'm going to get out here.
You guys want to talk about GOT?
Go for it, but I got to head out.
All right, Ona.
Thanks for joining us, buddy.
Later, everybody.
See you around the forums.
I don't know why I said how did you find out about Pretty Paranormal?
I just Googled Paranormal News, and it was like the 20th one down.
Playboy Playmate is what you Googled.
Perverted.
Did you say Paranormal Nudes?
Yes.
Okay.
So you found that Rocky Mountain, whatever, whatever, slippy paranormal girl thing.
I was looking for naked ghosts.
I want to see if there's anything under their sheet.
I mean, just like the Scottish guys, if they wear underwear under their kilts.
I don't want to know.
So are we going to do spoilers?
Or are we going to try not to be spoilers for this Game of Thrones or we just don't give a fuck because the season finale is already over and it's been a couple weeks since then.
Yeah, let's let her rip.
I think everyone knows winter's coming, so who cares?
Spoiler alert.
If you haven't watched all the Game of Thrones episodes, you're going to want to leave.
Pause right now.
Come back when you're done.
Leave.
You know, I hate that.
Winter is coming.
They've been fucking talking about winter since the first season.
And the only winter I've seen is what's up at the wall and at Castle Black.
I'll just interject there because in the books, it's actually explained that I don't know if it's how time is measured, but there's the equivalent of seven years of summer and seven years of winter.
Really?
So it's not just like winter is every six months or whatever.
Yeah.
But the thing is, they had in the books an extended summer.
Like it's been unnaturally long.
Yeah.
And yeah, the seven years of summer has actually been a longer period or whatever.
So well, so how would you explain that using actual science?
Would that just mean like their planet was super huge or had like a weird orbit or like compared to an orbit?
Yeah, it'd have to be the path around the sun.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it has a much wider, a much larger circle around the sun.
Aliens.
Orbit around the sun, I guess.
Maybe it's because they were all in the same plane.
What's that, Jazz?
I just wanted to know: does that make the characters in Game of Thrones aliens?
Yeah, I hope so.
Yes.
Because in a world like that, what happened to Ned Stark, it would have happened anyway.
Never mind.
Yeah, I think that the Hound is probably still alive.
And I said, I haven't read the books, but he fought with that big Amazon woman.
I don't know what her name was.
Brianna.
Brianna Taurus.
And I hear that.
Brianna fucking Toth.
That's right.
I hear that if you guys ever watch the comic book girl 19 summaries every week on YouTube, she does pretty good summaries of Game of Thrones each week.
But she said that that actual battle between the Hound and Brianna didn't actually occur in the books at all.
It was completely made up.
She's a fan favorite of the TV show.
And so she's taken a much bigger position, I think, at this point.
Because I've gone past what I've read in the books now in the TV show.
So I don't know how everything plays out currently.
But if I remember right, she has a totally different path.
She goes down.
Oh, you mean Brianna?
Brianna, right?
I thought you meant comic book girl 19 for a second.
I'm like, what?
What are you talking about?
No.
Does she do paranormal nudes too?
Yes, she does.
Okay, good.
Okay, good.
So, yeah, so I think the hound might pop up some place in next season.
You hope so, anyway, because I love that guy's character.
Yeah, I agree.
Well, you know, I was surprised, Oberon, how much I really liked this character.
I didn't think I would when I saw it played out.
Yeah.
And that really, to be honest, a couple days I kept thinking, man, I really wish that character had stayed.
It would have made for a more interesting TV show.
I think in the books, he wasn't such a big character, or he wasn't as badass or as cool as he was portrayed in the show.
And I had actually forgotten that he died in the book.
So when I saw what happened in the fight, that felt, you know, that was, it sort of crushed me.
Jazz, is it true that you used to date Prince Oberon?
Well, he was partial to the men.
He was bisexual.
No, he just liked them both, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was like, it's all good, man.
He was post-sexual preference.
Did you guys see that meme that somebody posted?
What's a McDonald's happy meal?
And it's somebody squeezing the guys or squeezing the box's eyes with an homage to Oberon.
Yeah, that was pretty gruesome, too.
In the books, isn't he really just used as a plot device to get to his family to bring them into the wider story?
Because Otter should be a bigger part of the next season.
Yeah, next season, his daughters aren't there.
Yeah.
Well, Mud King, do you know what happens to the mountain?
I think I do, if I remember right.
Doesn't he?
He's not dead, right?
Well, no, he basically dies.
No, no, he's not back.
In the books, I can't remember what happens to him, but I know that he's infected with some poison, but I can't remember whether he's so.
But he becomes like an automaton, doesn't he?
Yeah, the poison.
In the book, he's supposed to.
I didn't read the book.
I saw this online.
In the book, oh, and you're cutting out.
You're cutting out, buddy.
Poison-tipped.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can now.
There was a poison-tipped sword.
Because there's a scene before the fight, you see the guy polishing the sphere, the spear with a cloth.
And it just seemed odd for that scene to be in there if for no other reason the stab spec the weapon was poisoned.
Well, if you guys remember in the last episode, the finale, the person that was in that doctor's office or whatever with Cersei, that was the mountain.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that was our mountain.
And the guy working on him is like a Meister.
Yeah, but he's not actually.
He's a bit discredited in the.
He's sort of like the Malachi Martin of medicine.
Yeah.
Malachi Martin.
He's Dr. Kavorkian.
Yeah, maybe that's a better one.
He's JP Warren or who's the guy that sells Carnivora?
George Norris.
I would love to have JP Warren on the Game of Thrones world.
Have that guy show up with like a Medicine van or medicine die horribly.
He'd win, split in half, top to bottom.
Yeah.
So how many mountains?
How many people?
How many people have actually died throughout the three, or has it been four seasons in the four seasons of Game of Thrones?
Has anybody ever tallied up to death?
Just named characters?
Are we going to include all the thousands of names that died in battle?
No, no, none of the minor characters, but like the major characters, you know.
Yeah, a shitload.
A bunch.
Seems like there's more people have died in this series that I'm comfortable with, that I'm used to seeing, you know, because you just get used to a character and you start to like them and you want to see more of them, then all of a sudden, you know, beheaded or poisoned or they get their dick chopped off.
They get their dick chopped off, yeah.
Oh, nobody's safe, you know?
What's that, Jess?
I like that about a TV show where no one is safe, even the main, main character.
No one is safe because it keeps you on your toes.
Yeah.
Tywin Lannister.
Dead.
That was nice.
That was really nice to see what's the little guy's name?
Tyrion?
Tyrion.
I do not know Tyrion's name.
He's the cool shit.
Well, there's Tyrion.
There's Tyrone.
There's Terran.
Tywin.
Tywin.
Cyril.
Yeah, there's a ton of them.
You know, the thing I find really interesting, and this is my own personal observation.
I want to see if you guys agree or disagree with Tyrion and Jamie.
Have you guys noticed how with Ned and his being one of the only honorable characters in a dishonorable world, how after his death started the journey towards those two guys to basically taking his place as the honorable person?
Yeah.
I love that part of it.
Because when you first read the first couple books, which again, I haven't read all of them, but I read the first few.
And then in the TV show, they do it a little more subtly, but just showing how the death of Ned really affected those two people more than anybody else.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you guys who don't read the books, all of the books, each chapter is sort of written from this, not written from the perspective, but each chapter is a different character.
Like Tyrion will have one chapter, and then Jamie will have another one.
And there's, you know, and some of the stark kids as well will have chapters for them, and that's how the book's written.
And then later on in the book, there'll be another Tyrion chapter and another Jamie chapter, and you sort of see events through their eyes.
Yeah.
You know, with the books, it got hard for me after a while to read it just because he goes into so much detail about mundane things.
I just decided, you know, I'm going to watch a TV show.
Yeah.
See, that's roughly what I did when I started before I really even watched the first season.
I was like, oh, I'm going to check out these books and see what that's all about.
And I picked one up and looked at it.
I was like, there's no fucking way I'm going to read all these.
How many are there?
That's because there's no nudity in the books.
Is that correct?
Well, that's part of it.
They don't have pictures?
No pictures.
I'm not reading any damn book with no pictures.
It's just a bunch of words.
Can't handle it.
What do you guys think of Daenerys?
Do you think the actress who plays her does a good job of playing the part?
Yeah.
Except, she does, but she will no longer do nude scenes, apparently.
Yeah, she's not nude anymore, which is.
She's too famous for that now.
Oh, really?
That's why she has her assistant now to do that for her.
And her hot assistant, too.
I'm kind of glad.
To me, it feels like the weight of the role has passed her acting ability by.
Yeah.
That's my biggest issue.
That's why have you guys seen that bad lip syncing thing that I think Big Chuck posted?
There's a real funny thing where they mouse, they put dialogue over Daenerys' speaking, and it's really fucking hysterical.
No, I haven't seen that.
Her speaking in English or her speaking in high valerian or whatever she's speaking.
No, she's just like they took a scene from the show and put dialogue over it that kind of fits with the way her mouth is moving, and it's so funny.
I have to find that they did a similar thing with Breaking Bad when Hank and his wife were staring at the tape that What's His Face made and they put on the TV?
Do you not know the names of any of the main characters in any TV show?
No, I got a touch of the retard.
You've been using the handsome gentleman's mustache wax and diesel engine degreaser.
What?
Yes.
You've been using Handsome Gentleman's Mustache Wax and Diesel Engine degreaser.
What?
Huh?
Yes, I have, good sir.
Thank you.
No, I can't think of any names.
I'm so befuddled right now.
I think I should.
Just get the last names right.
Can you do that?
No.
No?
No.
That's because you've been watching Deadwood.
Is Deadwood good?
I need to pick up a new show.
Maybe that's.
Deadwood is fucking excellent.
Yeah.
The swearing is epic.
It's like Shakespeare and Goodfellas, but in a Western.
I've got a Deadwood clip for you right here.
I like to doubt me.
Suck cock by choice.
That was Deadwood.
Yeah.
Those that doubt me?
Suck cock by choice.
Yes.
Yeah, there's a lot of cocksuckers and motherfuckers in Deadwood.
Sounds like a typical night in my conversation.
They actually got pretty criticized for that because they're using current day curses.
They explained why they did that.
It's because if they'd use swear words that were current during the actual, like historically accurate for that period, people would be like, that sounds ridiculous.
Because people would be saying, Goldern.
Yeah.
What's an example of some olden day curse words?
Goldern.
Gold Gall Darn there.
Insufferable.
I don't know.
Back then, if you said goddamn, that was like the F word or the C word now.
They'd cut your head off for that.
Do you think that's true, or do you think they were just cursing the exact same way we do now?
I mean, I know some words change over time, but like the real out the people who aren't because I'm sure there was a small minority who were very devout and everything they did.
But then there was guys like us who just followed basic common sense rather than stressed out about norms and things like respect.
They did what they wanted to.
I was wondering about language, whether or not we, because we all have a revisionist ability for the past and whether we in our revisionist minds, we say that they just didn't use as vulgar of language as we do now.
I have a difficult time believing that I actually used the slang that was around in the 80s.
You know?
So I'm not sure exactly what your question was, but that's my answer.
Well, I like it.
What was it again?
Yeah.
It's all good.
I'm not sure.
I think I've completely lost my mind.
I think it's time to end the show, as a matter of fact.
He's been huffing paint.
Yes.
Yes.
I've been watching too much Deadwood.
You want to hear what crack.com says about Deadwood?
Sure.
Deadwood is a fucking show about swearing in the cocksucking old west.
That's perfect.
Yeah, exactly what it is.
All right, we're done.
That is the end of the show, everybody.
Hey, Jazz, thanks for calling in, man.
We'll see you in a couple weeks, buddy.
I'll be back in Oz.
Sorry, buddy.
Thanks, everybody, in the chat room.
We completely ignored you tonight, and we apologize for that.
I need to say thanks to Dave Harmon, who provided that clip of George Bush that I played earlier.
I need to thank my co-hosts, B-Dub, Curtis Thornton, Onin, and Jazz Munda.
I'm Eddie Dean.
Oh, and also, there are other podcasts that are on UFO ship.
The Spec Sheet, the Internet's Premiere.
Let's see, what is it?
What do you guys talk about?
Technology Podcast.
Premiere Technology Podcast.
And there's also the Fred Files with Eric Daw.
Anything about guitar repair and anything guitar.
So I'm going to get out of here before my mouth explodes and my head explodes.
Good night, everybody.
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