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You know, it is really funny.
The Senate last night approved funding for most of DHS.
They approved the funding for the Coast Guard and FEMA.
DHS Funding Controversy00:15:09
Just not ICE.
Just not ICE.
Oh, and CESA is being funded again.
So everything is going.
And you know, it's really funny.
DHS.
DHS, sorry.
You know, what's really funny is all it took was the president saying, you're worthless.
I'm going to do it myself.
And then all of a sudden, they found the spine to come to a bill that they could both pass.
And you know what it really was?
It wasn't just Donald Trump.
It was the fact that ICE is winning the PR battle.
Having ICE as TSA was the smartest thing Donald Trump could have done because wait until I show you some of the stuff that is going on around the country.
The Democrats, I kind of wish they would have been dumb enough to continue this going because they were dismantling all of their arguments on ICE with the average person.
Also, there is a new study out from Ryan Morrow who It has tracked and found where the war arguments are coming from on social media.
It is not good.
It is not good.
This goes to something that I talked about several years ago, maybe five or 10 years ago.
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Okay.
Well, I think it's interesting that suddenly they found it within themselves that they could finally go.
You know what?
I think, yes, what we're going to do is we're going to fund DHS.
We're going to end the DHS after 42 days.
Okay.
All kinds of pressure.
They didn't care about.
They did not care about you having to stand in line.
You were a prop.
They didn't care about the planes that you have missed or whatever has happened in your life because they shut TSA down.
They shut DHS down.
They didn't care about that.
Donald Trump said, you know what, I'm going to find a way to do it myself.
And all of a sudden they found the will.
But that's not all.
I want to play a few pieces of audio here for you that kind of show exactly really what happened.
Here is, let's cut, let me do the VO Ice Saves boy at JFK airport.
Let me show you some video.
This is of ICE.
ICE sees this one-year-old boy in line, in line, gone unresponsive.
He's not breathing, waiting in line at JFK airport.
And one of the ICE officers steps into action, gives him the Heimlich, and saves this one-year-old's life.
Okay.
That's kind of a big deal.
It's funny.
I didn't see CNN lead with that.
Why wouldn't you leave it?
That is like a really good news story.
That is government doing the right thing.
That's an ICE agent just being a literal lifesaver.
Do they cover that?
Probably not.
Now, let me show you this.
Cut eight, please.
This is from the Daily Wire.
We have Parade.
Here's an ICE member handing out bottled water to people who are standing in line.
Huh.
You know what this is?
The greatest PR move I've ever seen.
And it was affecting normal people.
Cut nine.
Listen to this guy.
I wish.
Thank you for the thank you.
Thank you for the service.
Thank you for the service.
You're happy with ICE?
Yes.
I like that.
I'm happy with the ice.
Thank you for shaking the hand.
I don't know if you hear that because I'm not hearing anything, Sarah, on my end.
But a man with broken English coming up, getting water and thanking ICE.
Thank you.
Thank you for doing what you're doing for the lines here at the airport.
That's why they changed last night because they knew they were going to lose and it was going to happen quickly.
Honestly, because of Donald Trump and Tom Homan.
I think these guys saw what's coming.
I mean, Donald Trump is a showman.
He knows.
He knows what's effective, what's not effective.
And so suddenly, last night, they approved.
So hopefully the lines at the airport will be fixed really, really soon.
Now, I told you in the past that, and it sounded nuts when I said it.
I said the algorithms are going to get so good and AI is going to get so good.
Social media is going to be everywhere.
When agents start operating, AI agents, and we are at the very beginning of this, okay?
When people understand how to navigate all of this stuff and when AI is really souped up, you are going to lose your free will.
And now that sounds crazy, but it will be so good.
You will be shaped constantly 24-7 that you will not know, did I really make that decision?
Or was that decision shaped for me, on me, slowly, piece by piece?
Now I'm hearing an echo, Sarah.
Have I been shaped?
Or did I come to this conclusion myself?
Well, let me give you the latest.
With the war underway, your phone is probably the biggest problem.
Your phone is probably the thing that is going to be making decisions for you.
Over half of the viral posts, if you've been looking, over a thousand viral English language posts about the war in Iran between February 28th and March 13th show something I think is a little unsettling.
Over half of these posts, 559 of them, originated outside of the United States.
And among the top 100 most viral posts, 40 came from foreign sources.
So 40% of what you're seeing is from outside the United States.
And they're not fringe posts, okay?
Each one had at least 2,500 shares.
These are the messages out of the most powerful.
40% of them are coming outside.
And what are they saying?
So a sample of just random of 150 of the viral posts showed 72% of them were negative.
Only 27 were positive, 27%.
The rest are neutral.
But when you isolate the foreign posts, oh, that's when it becomes distorted.
Only 10% were positive.
64% were negative.
The rest were just noise.
These 559 foreign origin posts generated over 650 million views, nearly 22 million interactions.
That's not a conversation.
That's saturation.
The content is not staying foreign.
Here's what happened.
U.S.-based accounts are taking these foreign messages and then repeating and amplifying it and quoting hostile foreign sources directly, unknowingly carrying the message even further.
That's, that's not, that's new.
That's new.
This is foreign propaganda in our own homes.
And for the very first time, social media platforms, especially X, are automatically translating foreign language posts into English.
That means the content created anywhere in the world is now instantly injected into American discourse without context, without friction, without warning.
You have no idea where it's coming from.
So what you're seeing is coming at you from three different directions at once.
First, American accounts.
72% of the viral posts were negative.
And they often were echoing what the foreign posts were saying.
Second, 40% of these were foreign accounts posting in English, designed to look domestic, but nearly two-thirds of those were negative.
Remember, in English, designed to look like they came from America.
Who does that?
Third, foreign language posts automatically translated and fed directly into your timeline.
Three streams, one effect, and that is distortion and convincing you that this is everywhere.
So what were the narratives?
What were the dominant narratives being pushed?
There were two.
Can you guess what they were?
The first one was the claim about the Zionist conspiracy that Zionists were manipulating President Trump into launching military action in Operation Epic Fury.
So the first one out of the 40 posts and the main influence was it's Israel's fault.
Hmm.
So do you believe that or were you convinced of that because you saw all of these posts that you had no idea were foreign posts trying to look like they were just you?
The second one claims it's wag the dog, that it's meant to divert attention from the Epstein-related scandals and falling approval ratings.
Those were the two.
They're not organic.
These were coordinated themes.
Just 10 accounts, 10, were responsible for 32% of all views in this entire data set.
The top 20 accounts accounted for 43%.
So you have 10 accounts.
Hell, just say 50 accounts.
50 accounts.
Shaping nearly what half of what millions upon millions upon millions are seeing.
Wow.
That's pretty remarkable.
If you are younger, you have never lived outside of social media.
You've never lived that.
These are not neutral observers.
They're participants and they are very, very effective.
But what they are creating is not real.
It feels like it, but it's not real.
It's a digital mirage.
It is propaganda.
81% of MAGA Republicans support Operation Epic Fuhrer.
61% of non-MAGA Republicans support it.
A plurality of Americans overall support it.
66% believe Iran poses a serious threat to national security.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Those are the real numbers, but you go online.
It doesn't feel like that, does it?
Huh.
That's really a consensus, at least much more than you'd guess by reading things online.
What you're seeing on social media is not reflection.
It's construction.
It's bizarro world where the loudest, most extreme, most inflammatory voices are amplified until they appear to be the majority.
You, if you're young, you've never lived out of this system.
You may not even realize it is happening, but that's what's happening.
You just assume this is reality.
It is not reality.
And the future of public opinion of this country, of the West, is not going to be decided only by our elections or policy debates.
It's going to be decided by what dominates our timelines.
This is the danger of social media.
If one side, any side, gains control of the digital ecosystem, it becomes strategically decisive in deciding things like, do we go to war or not?
Do we like ICE or not?
Information is no longer trustworthy when we're making battlefield decisions.
The battlefield is social media.
And most people don't even know that they are being shaped every day.
They have no idea.
Social Media Battlefield00:15:48
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This is insane.
We found out, I think it was last week, there is a war on motherhood by the CIA.
Newly released CIA documents reveal the Biden administration identified motherhood and homemaking as an indicator of white, racially, and ethnically motivated violent extremism.
The intelligence assessment reveals top-to-bottom bias at the CIA under Biden.
This is absolutely terrifying.
Terrifying.
How did we get to this place?
And why does it seem no one in America cares?
Gene Hamilton, he cares.
He's with America's first legal.
He's the president and co-founder.
Gene, can you tell me and take us through some of these documents and what is being done?
Well, thanks for having me on.
You raise very important points.
It is absolutely insane that the United States government, in particular, the intelligence community, would issue any kind of report that remotely touches anything like motherhood or traditional roles of marriage and homemaking as being indicators of propensities to engage in any kind of terroristic or violent conduct or extremism of any kind.
kind.
But what you have to do, Gwen, is you have to go back and you have to think.
All right.
Now, actually, as a moment of clarity here, of course, thank you to the Trump administration for withdrawing this product.
It was an actual CIA document that they published and that they have since withdrawn because it didn't meet their standards.
But you have to think, well, now, how is it that something like this comes to be?
And I think that you and I and your audience at home all know that it's not all patriots working in the intelligence community.
Many of them are.
Most of them are, I would suspect.
But there are a lot of people who get hired out of Ivy League schools, out of elite worldviews, and who think that Netflix movies are reality.
And if you look at this product or if you look at some of the other products that they've published, they seem to espouse viewpoints that you would see on some crazy Netflix produced movie that views white people or views traditional roles of marriage or motherhood as indicators of some kind of threat to our national security.
And that, in fact, is insane.
So I look at this and I think it is so insane.
I have no, you know, I have no inside knowledge of what everybody is tracking and things.
But I'm, you know, not a casual observer of society and life in America.
And the only thing I can think of as a motive is she who rocks the cradle rules the world.
You've got to destroy the family.
That is one of the stated from the left, one of the stated goals, destroy the traditional family.
So you mark moms.
You also believe in global warming.
Mark moms.
Stop having babies.
I mean, this is so insidious.
But to be fair, is there anything that you can find in this document that shows, well, that was, I could see how they read it this way.
I can see how they took this information and said, maybe that's leading to extremism.
I'm being way overgracious, but I have to ask.
Anything?
You have to ask.
You have to ask.
I don't think so.
I mean, and especially when you consider this in the context of what other documents were produced during the Biden administration in public documents and, of course, documents that were classified, have subsequently been declassified.
But remember, they issued in the Biden administration a domestic security strategy that identified conservative Americans, identified all kinds of traditional values as being threats to our domestic security.
The Biden administration's entire team, their apparatus, viewed traditional Americans, white Americans or conservative Americans, military veterans, as the greatest potential threats to the security of the United States.
I mean, it was the absolute ludicrousness of this just can't be overstated.
I mean, it's wild, but that was their worldview.
And they created products, and from those products derive action, and from that action comes investigations and retribution campaigns that played out all across the country against various Americans.
And so this is not just something that the American people should shrug their shoulders at and say, well, you know, it's kind of, that sounds a little silly.
Silly Democrats shouldn't do that again.
This is real dangerous stuff.
And they have to realize this is what is going to happen again if they get in power again.
They will do this type of product again, and we will all suffer the consequences.
I have to tell you, I am convinced that our security apparatus is a danger to the Republic.
It's absolutely a danger.
And you should never feel that way.
You should be skeptical, but you should never feel like I think they're a danger to the republic.
And the reason why I say that is you can take this, what you have been calling a product.
You can take it out.
You can remove it.
But what about the people who produced it?
What about the people inside the agencies that didn't raise the alarm and say, what the hell are we doing?
Right.
Right.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, there has to be top-to-bottom review of the people who are involved in producing these products, contributing to these products.
And there needs to be consequences for them.
Now, of course, it's very difficult for us as average Americans to keep tabs on the employment actions within the intelligence community.
I am confident, at least under this administration, that they're doing everything in their power to address it.
But it's, as you say, Glenn, though, it is not just this one product.
You have to wonder, well, who else was in the agency at the time?
Who was just okay with this happening?
Who went along with it?
Will they speak up in the future next time that there's some radical in the administration who's wanting to push a ridiculous product that has no basis in reality?
Will they raise their voice?
Will they speak up?
Because if they didn't before, chances are they're not going to do it again.
And again, the main point being here, this is extraordinarily dangerous.
The consequences are significant.
And we all have to be aware of this as we go forward and we make decisions about things in the fall in particular.
Listen to this.
The purpose of this document is to focus on women who are supporters or sympathetic to transnational white REMVs, R-E-M-V-E.
You know what a REMV is?
Go ahead.
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's just, it's look, this has ties, it has connections also with some of this trans ideology, has ties with some of the folks who are engaging in just a modern weaponized war on womanhood.
People who don't appreciate and value and support women as God-created individuals who are distinct and unique in their capabilities and want to distort and change all concepts of gender in our society to, again, you have to look, Glenn, you mentioned earlier, the destruction of the family.
The destruction of the family is the one thing that can help liberals and Marxists obtain power because it eliminates that support network.
It eliminates so much.
And they will take products like this.
They will engage in other activities.
They will do all kinds of things to destruct and destroy the family because that's another way for them to obtain power in the long run.
Gender Ideology Crisis00:06:14
And they're talking about this over in Europe.
And that's the way the CIA gets away with it.
But you can guarantee it has been come here.
REMV is racially and ethnically motivated violent extremist.
So a racially and ethnically motivated violent extremist.
I would say that there are those who are in BLM that fit that.
I would say that there are Islamists.
The Islamist movement absolutely fits that.
But then they say the mothers believe that their perception of an idealized white European ethnic identity is under attack from people who embody and support multiculturalism and globalism.
It is under attack.
I mean, this is incredible.
They do not actually identify anybody who is a violent extremist, who is attacking those kind of visions of the future and visions of the past, if you will.
They're not going after them.
Just the people who are saying, wait a minute, I like my country.
I like the culture that we have right now.
I don't want to become that culture.
Why are they the only ones that are in the crosshairs?
Well, I mean, look, there's all kinds of reasons that we could get into.
And I think one thing that we can just make clear for everybody, everyone listening here would rightly condemn anyone who wants to engage in any kind of violent extremism on any basis.
There's just no place for it.
But to connect and to insinuate that just because somebody wants France to remain France is somehow going to be a violent extremist is a threat is ridiculous because look, I mean, what are they saying?
Should Japan not remain Japan?
Should it not have a Japanese character?
Should Nigeria not remain Nigeria?
And is there a problem with a person desiring for countries to have their own individual unique cultures?
It again, it comes from this worldview from these elite institutions and some of the folks who get behind the creation of some of these products is that they think that it is, in fact, dangerous for someone to think that America,
if you're a person who views the world based on merit and appreciates individual humans, regardless of where they came from, but understands that it was founded on Judeo-Christian values by individuals from Western Europe,
principally, then the notion that that was actually our history and that's who we are and it's a fact and there's nothing wrong with that continuing fact to maintain our identity is just something that they're just not used to dealing with.
And we're going to see more and more of this, Glenn, unless we stop these things.
But I think you're saying it.
Yeah, unless we elect the right people.
I mean, I am, I don't know about you.
I'm sure you feel the same way.
Gene, I am for the first time truly terrified of what is coming our way if these elections go and give the power back to the left because it's not even to the Democrats anymore.
The Democrats have been wholly eaten by the left.
And they are talking about purges and everything else.
It is very, very concerning when you see this was happening under Biden.
Good God Almighty, what would happen under a Marxist?
Yes, absolutely.
Gene, besides the election, is there anything that people should be aware of or do?
Look, I think that, again, just with all things in life, Glenn, we all have our own spheres of influence.
And one of the most important things is spreading knowledge.
This is a product.
This particular product we're talking about today was declassified and withdrawn by the CIA, you know, I guess about a month ago, and it didn't get a whole ton of attention.
There are a lot of people in your sphere of influence for the folks at home, your friends, your family, who have no idea, no knowledge about the existence of this product.
And they see things in the headlines.
They believe some things.
They think that maybe all the Trump administration is being radical, and here they're doing this crazy thing again.
And they really need to understand that, no, no.
In fact, that's a narrative that's being painted here that's not accurate.
And in fact, on the other hand, look at what these people were doing, the last team that was in here, amongst everything else that everybody already knows.
We need to spread knowledge.
We need to make sure that people are aware that these types of products exist.
They are real.
They are going to happen again.
And there is no going back to some kind of moderate democratic administration is not a likely thing that is going to happen in the future.
Thank you so much, Gene Hamilton.
Thank you for being on.
Thanks for all of the work that you and all of your colleagues do every day.
I appreciate it.
America First League President and co-founder, you bet, Gene.
Just sent you the link to the actual report.
It did come out about a month ago.
We talked about it at the time, but I didn't think that people are paying enough attention to it.
So I wanted to do this.
We'll put this interview out.
But Ricky, if you could tweet for me the actual link to the CIA document.
It is, again, nobody's opinion.
That's the document.
Read it.
It is shocking.
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I'm just looking at what's going on in the world, and it's an interesting picture that we're seeing.
And I want to start with something that came to my attention just a couple of days ago, something I said 10 years ago on this program, 10 years ago this week.
And I just want to give you an update on where we are.
And then I'm going to back it up with some of the stories that are coming out about illegal aliens and what is happening.
And it is, I mean, somebody's pushing for chaos and collapse.
Gee, I wonder who it could be.
Red, Green Alliance.
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And this all comes from something that we found in a show every day in our show prep.
I get a recap of the things I was talking about five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago.
This one came up this week, 10 years ago this week, on the plane.
And he asked, he said, where are we headed?
What is the world going to look like?
What's America going to look like in 10 years?
And so I talked about it on the air and I went back and listened to that show.
It's pretty amazing.
I laid out three possibilities.
I didn't make a prediction.
I said, there are three ways this could go, I think.
And the first one was slow decay, not a collapse.
You wouldn't point to it on the calendar and say, this is when it changed, but just a steady erosion.
Corruption, these are my words.
Corruption would become routine.
Violence will become background noise.
Currency won't die overnight.
It just buys less and less year after year until you just have to adjust your expectations downward.
The border will blur.
Drugs will flood in.
Institutions will continue to weaken, but they won't break.
They just stop working the way they once did.
That was option number one.
I don't know.
That's pretty close.
The other one was a darker turn.
Listen to this one.
I said, or we will turn not to chaos, but from chaos, but it will all be about control.
A moment will come when the system decides dissent is a real threat, when the people who warned, protested, resisted are no longer just wrong, but dangerous.
And the label will change from opponent to enemy.
And once that word sticks, you know what usually follows.
That was option two.
I don't know.
I think we've seen some of that.
And then there was the more hopeful path, that citizens would wake up, that grassroot movements, imperfect, but loud, might be a little messy, but they would remind the country who it was supposed to be.
And people will look back and say, wow, that was the moment that it really turned around.
That was 10 years ago.
I think a little bit of all of those things happened.
Don't you?
I mean, the slow decay, it's not a collapse, but erosion.
Corruption is routine.
Absolutely.
Violence, a background noise?
Absolutely.
Currency hasn't died, just buys less year after year.
We have to adjust our expectations downward.
The border has absolutely blurred.
The drugs are flooding in, still are.
The institutions haven't broken, but they weakened.
And things aren't working the way they used to.
Okay.
Add to that, I would say we have had the moment during the Biden administration where the system decided dissent was a real threat and they started to silence people.
You know, people who warned and protested and resisted, I'm not going to take the COVID vaccine.
You were all of a sudden dangerous.
You weren't wrong.
You were dangerous.
And that's when we went from opponent to enemy.
These people are trying to kill the elderly.
And then the hopeful path.
Remember, this was 10 years ago.
So we're talking 2016.
What was happening 2016?
What was happening in 2016?
I said the last path is the hopeful one that citizens would wake up, a grassroots movement, imperfect, loud, maybe messy, would remind the country who it was supposed to be.
And people would look back and say, that was the moment it turned around.
I think all three paths happened at the same time.
Bits and pieces.
Here's what hasn't happened.
We haven't decided which one.
So in 10 years from now, what does the world look like?
Well, it's not going to be a combination of all three.
I can't give you, you know, a dark, desperate path, a really dystopian path, and a hopeful path and expect them all to come, you know, and do what this did because we're out of runway.
You have to choose.
Do we slam on the brakes with this plane right now or do we pull on the yoke and start to fly?
We can't make that decision.
That's the real problem.
Because math is going to make the decision for us.
Births are going to make the decision for us.
Immigration, what we choose to do with our laws, how we vote, it's going to make the decision.
If we remain apathetic and uncommitted, and I know a lot of people say they're committed.
But I asked myself today on the drive-in, am I really committed?
Am I really truly committed?
You know, I struggle with things just like you do.
And there are times when I'm like, you know, but if I really was committed, I would do X, Y, and Z.
And the reason why I don't is I make excuses for myself.
And I don't know if they're excuses or they're valid.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
You know, I don't have as much time, it feels like in my day, or I can't last.
I mean, I used to be able to go easy midnight.
And when that would happen, I'm hearing myself back again, Sarah.
And when that would happen, I got a lot of stuff done, but I can't, my body just won't put up with that anymore.
So I'm tired all the time.
I'm also a little cranky.
I'm more crankier than I used to be.
Is that an excuse or is that reality?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But have we done everything we can?
There's more that we can do, but it's not going to take a lot.
Because I've been thinking about this stuff for me.
What do we do?
Well, one of the things that we can do is we've got to just continue to speak out.
We have to, you know, I saw a quote from Jefferson recently because I always, I just remembered it being a well-educated republic.
A well-educated people can be entrusted with their republic.
That's not what he said.
That's not what he said.
He said a well-informed public.
Well, that's totally different.
That takes it away from all of the eggheads, and that just puts it squarely on your shoulders.
Are you well-informed?
You know, I just did a story last hour about trusting what you see in your social media feed.
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And how much of that is made to look like it is being recorded here in America?
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Once we are well informed, once we know what's true, what's not, then you have, you're able to form the conviction and say, you know what?
This is a real problem.
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Six hours?
Four hours?
You remember?
Many hours.
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Does not have my name on it.
It's produced by me and my staff, but it doesn't have my name on it because I don't want that to be an obstacle for people who go, well, I squat back here.
Because it has nothing but the original documents in it.
So you can make the case.
It lays out the case and then it gives you all of the documents that are all originals.
So, I mean, they can argue with the original documents all they want.
But we have to be informed.
We have to know what's actually happening in our own country.
And one of the things that we have to know is there is a real danger, a real and present danger from people who are here illegally.
And I'm not talking about the people who are cleaning your house, mowing your lawn.
Yeah.
Is that a problem?
Yeah, it takes jobs from people, et cetera, et cetera.
But we're in an existential threat.
We are talking, did you hear the story?
The brother and sister who were indicted after authorities say that one of them planted a potentially deadly explosive outside of MacDill Air Force Base in Florida.
This just happened.
And I'm thought, a brother and sister, what is happening?
What do you mean?
They're what?
Yep.
A brother and sister, the brother, the sister's been arrested.
The brother went back home to China.
China.
Hmm.
That doesn't sound like a good thing, does it?
Meanwhile, we have our own governors that are aiding and abetting.
That is the only way to say it.
Aiding and abetting.
When you have somebody who has been arrested for especially violent crimes and you won't help, you won't, no, no, not help.
You won't follow the law and call ICE and say, hey, by the way, at the back door, we're going to be escorting this guy out.
You want him.
He's an illegal.
He's just stabbed and raped a woman.
You might want to deport them.
When they won't even do that, you're aiding and abetting.
You're aiding and abetting.
I'm going to meet with a father today.
I'm dreading this.
I have a pit in my stomach today.
I am dreading having this conversation.
I'm going up to the Chicago area and I'm talking to a dad who just lost their daughter.
You know the story.
Governor won't say anything.
Nobody will say anything.
Nobody will even recognize.
And killed by an illegal.
It's not the one that just happened.
This one happened before that one.
Nobody knows it.
Nobody cares, it seems.
At least nobody in power.
I'll bring that story to you on Monday.
But now the New Jersey Democrat governor is now saying, we're not going to cooperate with ICE.
We're not going to cooperate with ICE.
Tell me.
Tell me.
How can you be for how can you be for empathy and justice when you don't have any empathy for the victims and you make the perpetrator the victim?
There's no empathy in you.
You can claim, oh, I'm empathetic with the illegals.
Well, you can be empathetic.
I understand empathy for people who just want to make a better life for themselves and they saw an open border in America, didn't care about its borders and came here to make a better life for them and their children.
I have no empathy, none whatsoever for people who are criminals, came from another country and went, I can be a kingpin in America because they'll never arrest me and I'm going to rape and kill whoever I want.
Who has empathy for that?
You're not empathetic.
You're a monster.
You're a monster.
You're not for justice when you will have somebody who raped and killed an innocent person, raped and killed them.
And you're wanting justice for them and not the one who was just raped and killed?
Democrats, you got to wake up.
You got to wake up.
You have trapped yourself inside of an insane asylum and you just think that it's okay.
Well, because the other side is so bad.
No, no, no, no, gang.
No, we are not like that.
Are our policies getting your daughter raped and killed on the streets?
Or are we the ones saying, hey, we should have less chaos?
We should make sure that those rapists, I don't care if they're from here or they're homegrown, they should be in jail.
Or is your side the one letting them out?
You're locked in an insane asylum and you have absolutely no idea.
You're drinking the giggle juice and you're pointing out the window at the sane people going, look at these crazy people.
You're the one in the nuthouse.
You got to admit that or you're never going to get out.
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So we're doing this.
It's not just America.
It's not just America.
And see, this is the lie.
Democrats, this is the lie you tell yourself.
We're fighting against Donald Trump.
Really?
Then why is the same exact fight happening overseas?
Why?
Because Donald Trump's not over there.
Why are they having the same exact problems with immigration that we are?
And the politicians are handling it exactly the same way that your politicians are handling it.
There's a couple of stories.
One comes out of Spain.
The Immigration Lie00:03:39
And this young girl, she was taken from her parents by the state and they put her into a halfway house, if you will.
They said, your parents are irresponsible and we're really responsible.
They put her in this halfway house.
And, you know, she's, I think, 12 or 13.
And there are illegal Arab boys in the halfway house.
And they apparently, you know, had their way with her and raped her repeatedly, gang raped her.
And then when she pointed this out, nobody would listen to her.
In fact, they would listen to her, but they couldn't do anything about the boys because the social worker said they're already so stigmatized.
We can't add to that.
People will jump to conclusion about young Arab boys.
So they got no punishment.
Instead, she was left to deal with this.
No help.
State didn't give her any help.
Okay.
And they just brush by it.
Well, she throws herself out of a five-story window.
She's now paralyzed.
Or she was.
Paralyzed.
She can't walk.
Now she's living with all this trauma and she's paralyzed.
So what does the state do?
They send in doctors to help her kill herself.
And they offer her maid medical assistance in dying.
You know what?
We can help you because we understand your pain.
You should kill yourself.
So she decides, this young teenage girl, I'm going to kill myself because I just did.
That's an act of insanity.
They don't help her with that.
They say, we'll help you kill yourself.
This time you'll be really efficient because we'll help you do it.
Her parents get involved and like, what?
No, no.
Dad stands up and says, absolutely not.
The state doesn't listen to dad because we already deemed you unfit.
Now, listen to this.
I want to play this little piece of audio here of what her attorney just said.
listen to this you haven't been as cautelares lo que la dicen es no puede hacer eso porque ya teníamos todos tus órganos comprometidos entonces lo que nosotros quien le dices Okay, stop.
You hear that?
That was the translation.
They couldn't stop it, her attorney said, because all of her organs were already spoken for.
So the judge would not stop and put a stay on her state-sponsored execution to get that witness out of the way.
Is that compassion?
Is that the compassion the left is offering?
I want no part of it.
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I want to thank you so much for coming here every day, giving me the benefit of the doubt, and listening and taking what is useful to you and applying it to your life and being here for all of us.
We're having a really tough day.
We've had a tough couple of days here.
We have been under DDOS attack like nobody's business in ways that I've done radio for 49 years.
I've never seen anything like this.
I've done network radio and I put the first internet live internet network on the air.
First one in the world.
Never seen anything like this.
Our website is back down again.
Everything is, I mean, I don't, we don't know what is the attack is vast.
And I feel a little overwhelmed.
So I want to talk to you about that because I think in some ways, whatever you're dealing with, you probably, especially if you're raising kids, feel exactly the same way.
You know, we all feel alone and overwhelmed.
And there are times you just feel trapped, you know, or lost or helpless or just confused and you're way over your head and you feel like everything you do is failing.
This is a spiritual attack.
You know, when you're sitting there in your bed at the edge of the night and you're going over everything, you know, it's not good.
Night after night, you do all that you can and then you get to bed and you feel like, I just survived the day.
All I did was just survive.
And the house goes quiet, but your mind doesn't.
I mean, you've done everything you were told to do.
This is what I tell myself all the time.
I've done everything I was supposed to do.
You've tried really hard to be present for your kids.
You try to understand what they're facing.
But this world doesn't make any sense to you either.
This world is nothing like what we were promised, what we grew up with.
And no matter how hard you try, it seems like you're always falling behind.
And food costs more and housing feels out of reach and your job feels less stable and schools feel, let me be kind, unfamiliar.
And who are you going to turn to?
An expert?
You mean the ones that we were told to trust about, oh, I don't know, COVID or the economy or anything else?
They're the ones who built this maze we're trapped in.
I'm going to trust them.
And so you lie there at night.
You're beyond panicked or beyond angry, really.
You're just worn down.
I feel that all the time.
I'm feeling it.
Everybody on my staff is feeling it this week.
Hear me.
You are not failing.
You're not.
You are responding as any sane person would to a world that has become absolutely unmoored.
The problem isn't that you're weak.
The problem is you were never built to carry this load.
No one taught us how you are literally not meant to carry this type of load.
You know, you're only supposed to have about 20 friends and family that you're really close to.
How many people do we follow and say we're our friends and everything else and we're following all their lives and most of it is garbage?
Most of it is not true.
And they're our friends.
No, they're not.
You were not designed to have that many friends.
You can't keep that all straight and carry that all around.
We got to reattach ourself to the real things, the small things.
Find our way out in the repeatable things because everything is in disorder right now.
And the more you try to order it, the worse it's going to be because you're looking at all the big things.
I'm working on some things myself.
And may I share them with you?
I don't know if they'll be good for you, but they're good for me.
This one's really hard for me because I get up at 3 o'clock in the morning.
And actually, I started getting up at 3 o'clock in the morning and then doing all my homework and then going to bed for another 40 minutes and then waking back up so I can start my, I can start my day this way, okay?
Reclaim your morning before the world does.
For the first 30 minutes of your day, no phone, no news, no noise, sit, read something, but read something grounded, grounded in history, read scripture, anything, read anything that existed before the chaos, or just sit there in silence.
Why?
Because if the first voice you hear every day is the algorithm, you will live your entire life reacting instead of choosing.
You don't need two hours.
You just need discipline in the first 30 minutes.
Hell, do it for five minutes.
Start with five minutes.
Two, create one fixed point in your day that never ever moves.
Make it dinner at the same time every day or a walk at the same time every day, prayer at the same time every day.
The world's unstable and you're not going to fix that.
But you need some immovable picture of pillars because everything is liquid right now.
And children, they don't need perfection.
What they really need is predictability.
And there is no predictability in the world.
Three, limit the flood.
Don't try to stay on top of everything.
You are not built to process the world's suffering and outrage and chaos every hour of every day for the entire world.
Pick a couple of things.
Check the news.
The rest of the time, live your actual life because we're feeling more and more powerless.
Why?
Because you're expecting to carry way too much information that you were never expected, you're never designed to carry.
Fourth thing, teach your children reality, not fear.
Don't just warn them about the world.
Show them how to move through the world.
Teach them how to shake hands and look somebody in the eye.
I think that is the best thing you can teach your kids.
How to sit in silence without needing stimulation.
How to do something really difficult without quitting and giving up.
Confidence is not built by telling them they're great, they're perfect, or they're safe.
It's built by showing them they can handle things that are not safe, not easy.
This one I got from Thomas Jefferson because he believed that people who worked with their hands, especially in the dirt, had some special connection to reality.
Put your hands into something real every single day.
Into something real every day.
Cook.
Fix something.
Clean something.
Build something.
Paint something.
Grow something.
But get your hands into it.
We are living in a world of abstraction.
The screens, the ideas, the arguments, none of it is real.
Your brain needs reality.
Your brain needs tangible effort, visible progress.
There's something deeply stabilizing about doing a simple task and doing it well and completing it.
Next on my impossible mission, decide what's yours to carry and what's not.
You can't fix the culture.
You can't.
You can't control the economy.
You can't rewrite the system overnight, but you can set the tone in your own home.
Choose what your children are exposed to.
Decide on how you respond instead of react.
Draw that line clearly because carrying what's not yours is what's crushing you.
And you know what?
What your kids are going to do after a certain age, it's going to be interesting to see how that all works out.
You can't control it.
This one is really hard for me because I take inventory all the time, but I take it in judgment.
Don't.
Don't.
Before you sleep, ask yourself, what did I do right today?
Did I do anything right today?
Of course you did.
Make note of it.
Where did I fall short?
I hate that one.
Let me change.
What's the one thing I will do better on tomorrow?
Okay?
Not 10 things.
One thing.
What did you do right today?
And what's the one thing you're going to do better tomorrow on?
That's how you regain traction.
You don't get it in some miraculous leap.
It's inch by inch.
And finally, understand this one thing.
I just wrote a note to my staff who are all feeling like I put so much work into everything that was happening today.
Everybody from my tech team to the writers to me, our whole, to our producers to Sarah, she's pulling her hair out.
Everybody is pulling their hair out going, I can only do so much and this is all out of my control.
Hear me, you're not meant to be in control of everything.
You're not.
You're not.
We're not in control.
That's the alcoholic in me talking.
You know, I got to be in control.
It's a lie that control equals peace.
It doesn't.
Peace comes from surrender, the surrender of knowing where your responsibility ends and having the strength to stand by that boundary and guard that boundary.
I am not, I cannot fix that.
Some things are going to get worse.
Some things are going to get better.
Surrender and Boundaries00:06:26
Yeah.
But your life, your actual life is not going to be decided by the noise.
It's going to be decided by the quiet, repeated choices that no one ever sees.
So I just ask you to join me on this effort.
When you go to bed tonight and you are still holding life by the skin of its teeth, let it go.
Let it go.
It's not weakness.
That's endurance.
Then wake up refreshed and build from there.
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Glenn Beck.
In my 49 years of broadcast, I have never experienced what I've experienced this week.
And I am glad the week is over.
I didn't even know Torch was down.
I knew our website was down because we have been having DDOS attacks.
And Jason, can I bring you in here?
It's not my imagination.
This started, right, when we had the Crown Prince of Iran on.
That was, and we promoted it.
That was the first time.
And we have been off and on, have had attacks on our website.
Yesterday, it did something I thought was impossible.
I've never ever heard this.
It started affecting our national radio broadcast.
And we are still tracking that down.
And I don't care what the problem is, but we know we've changed nothing.
So maybe it's something with the fiber carrier that happened or somebody got in.
We're not sure.
But if somebody got in, good, because now the federal government, the FCC will have to be involved because you're now messing with national broadcast.
But we are under attack like nobody's business.
I mean, I don't know how I stay in business with what is happening to us because we just can't get, I mean, we're just, but I got to tell you,
I had a dream once that one day I would just be standing underneath a tree and there'd be a bunch of people that had just walked forever and I was just telling them the truth of history and what was going on because that was the only way to communicate.
And I'm not saying that's what's coming.
I'm just saying, God, I hope not.
Nothing's going to stop me.
Nothing's going to stop my staff.
We must be over the target because I've never seen this ever before.
And usually when things like this happen, it's because you are right over the target.
We always face the most resistance when we are doing, I think, our best work.
And it's not a coincidence that it starts when we have the crown prince of Iran on.
It gets worse as we go to war with Iran.
And today, the worst yet, is the day that we are releasing at stoptheconquest.com the additional five or six hours of interviews, raw, and a booklet that shows you exactly what the blueprint from Islamists is.
We have the documentary.
Now we've given you a booklet that you can share with people and wake people up.
And that's what was taken down.
That's what was taken down today.
And I just don't think it's, I mean, what a weird coincidence if that is a coincidence because they all, all the dots line up.
And I can't prove any of this.
So we're trying.
We're trying.
And for us to go deeper online, we need CESA.
We need the federal government.
And for us to get the federal government involved, if CISA won't do it, then we need to know that everybody at the network nationally all buttoned up so we can get FCC involved.
AI Safety Concerns00:15:24
The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment, and empowerment.
This is the Glenn Beck program.
Glenn Beck is on!
I want to talk to you about two movies.
One is just fun.
One is really important.
The first one is Hail Mary.
It's my favorite, but it's my favorite fiction book.
It's the guy who wrote The Martian.
I've read that book three times.
I read it just, you know, in between books or when I just want to, you know, zone out and enjoy myself.
And I was so worried about the movie because I thought they're never going to be able to capture the book.
And they did.
And it is fantastic.
And if you haven't seen Hail Mary yet, you have to.
There is another movie out with the simple name, the AI Doc.
I saw this in a screening maybe three weeks ago.
To say this is vital, to say this is the most important thing you might be able to do with your time this weekend is a massive understatement.
You must see the AI dock.
It's opening in theaters today.
You must take friends.
You must spread the word on this.
Not a paid endorsement or anything else.
I saw this movie and it has both hope and despair, be honest with you.
You get to choose at the end which one you believe.
But it is presenting reality, both sides, reality of what we are facing.
And everyone within the sound of my voice needs to see.
I've never said this about any movie.
I've never said this about any movie.
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I have one of the guys who's in it, a friend of the friend of the program who is an AI expert.
And quite honestly, he's not the scariest guy in it, but he was, because he was so normal, it was terrifying what he said.
But we're going to talk to him.
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Tristan, how are you, sir?
Glenn, it is always really good to be with you.
And thank you so much for encouraging people to go out and see this movie that we're talking about today, which I should also be clear, by the way.
I don't make any money when people see this movie.
So I want people to hear both your call and mine as this is a kind of a public service announcement to the world.
Much like, as you know, the day after that film in 1982 about what happened if the U.S. and Soviet Union did, you know, went to nuclear war.
It's just meant to clarify.
And if we have clarity about where we're headed with AI, then we can choose what we want to choose.
And the emphasis is on agency, on choice.
What do we actually want here?
But I'm so grateful to be back with you on the program.
Tristan, thank you for saying day after.
I was trying to find a comparison.
That is it.
That, you know, Ronald Reagan saw that movie.
And I think somebody in Hollywood sent it to him saying, you know, thinking, you know, we'll change his mind.
His mind was already made up, really, of nuclear weapons.
He knew they were bad.
That just clarified, and he took that over to Moscow and gave it to Gorbachev and said, watch this movie.
And that's what brought both of them to the table.
And I'm telling you, you're exactly right.
This movie needs to be seen.
And, you know, what's so frustrating is this decision is all being made by somebody.
At least we understood what nuclear weapons would do.
We maybe didn't know it until that movie.
We didn't have it visualized for us, but people don't understand what AI even is and what it can do.
We're not at AI really yet.
We're not at AGI.
You haven't even scratched the surface of what's truly coming.
And it's being made by these eggheads and these billionaires who are quite honestly terrifying, just terrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, as you said, you know, back in 1945, all of us saw the photos and later videos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and we saw, we knew intuitively the destructive power of nuclear weapons.
Everybody got that evidence because there was a catastrophe.
And with AI, most people's experience, let's just tune into it.
There you are.
You use ChatGPT, your baby's burping in the background, and boom, you have a blinking cursor that tells you exactly what you need to know.
So why in the world are we talking about AI as if it's nuclear weapons?
This seems bizarre.
And the truth is that what this blinking cursor, this friendly face obscures is that behind that blinking cursor are essentially like five soon-to-be trillionaires who are racing to create, as you just said, artificial general intelligence.
They're racing to be able to replace all human economic labor in the economy.
Everything that a human mind can do, all the marketing jobs, all the sales, all the media jobs, all the financial analyst jobs, like every job, mathematicians, physicists, like AI is going to be able to do all of those things.
And I think something your audience needs to know is, are these companies in a race to support the American worker?
Like, are they in a race to augment and support you?
Well, let me just break this down because I think it's so important for people to get.
These companies have taken on so much investment.
This is literally more money has been invested into this than any other technology in human history.
And they can't make up that investment if everybody just paid for a ChatGPT subscription.
If everybody paid 20 bucks a month, that's not enough to make back their investment.
If they just charge advertising for all the ChatGPT usage, suddenly you have embedded ads everywhere.
That's also not enough to make back the amount of money they've taken on.
The only thing that justifies the amount of money that they have raised is that they can replace all economic labor in the economy, the $50 trillion labor economy.
That's the incentive.
As we said many times in this program with you, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett's business partner, said, if you show me the incentive, I will show you the outcome.
How did you and I predict social media back in 2017?
If you saw that the incentive was the race for eyeballs and engagement and duration of use and frequency of use, you're going to get a digital brain rot machine, which is what's keeping all of our young people tomb scrolling.
And so with AI, the way that you can predict which way this is going to go is it's not short term, it's augmenting workers.
It's helping you.
It's a blinking cursor.
But long term, these companies, their goal is not to do that.
Their goal is to replace you.
And I think that means that you won't have, you and me and everybody else just has a regular job.
You won't have political power after the GDP of countries starts to come from AI and data centers and not from people.
Because now the companies don't need you for their labor and governments don't need you for your tax revenue.
This is called the intelligence curse that, you know, much like, you know, there are countries that discover a natural resource like Congo or, you know, Sudan or Venezuela.
And when all of their GDP starts to come from that resource, what was a blessing of that resource becomes a curse because now the entire country kind of organizes itself around mining that resource.
Well, in the case of intelligence, AI is the new resource.
It's the new thing that's going to drive all economic growth.
And the reason I'm saying this is not to scare your listeners.
It's so that we can get crystal clear that these five companies and the five soon-to-be trillionaires that are running them, they don't have the interests of regular people at heart.
And we can talk more about that, but I think it's just so important for you listeners to get that.
Tristan, I mean, I wrestle with this all the time because I am engaged in building some AI and using some AI.
We're trying to do it ethically.
And I am actually, it's allowing me to hire more people.
I will always look at it as a tool, not as a replacement.
I know, I know I could, if I wanted to, I could replace so much of my staff right now just by implementing all kinds of AI.
But I don't want that.
But these big companies, they don't, you know, as soon as you're traded on the stock exchange and everything else, it's all about profit, profit, profit.
And how do we stop this?
Yeah.
Well, I think the way we, I mean, it's not just about stopping, it's steering.
You know, I always say, you know, people always say, well, how could we possibly do something different because we're in a race with China, right?
Well, yes, we're in a race with China, but also the AI companies have been using a boogeyman of China to say that's why you have to keep funding us and keep accelerating us.
We should just also be aware that the companies are using that narrative to drive up their goals and drive up investment into their products so that they can win against their competitors.
But one thing we should say about the race is what are we in a race for?
Because if we know, maybe we talked about this last time, but the U.S. beat China to developing the technology of social media.
We built a psychological bazooka called social media, but then we didn't actually govern it well.
So we sort of spun it around and blew our own brain off.
Did that make us stronger or weaker as a country?
So we're actually in a race for who is better at steering and wielding the technology in a way that strengthens the full-stack economic, military, scientific and technological health and strength of your society.
That's what we're in a race for.
You know what?
I just don't.
I don't even know who to trust, Tristan, because this whole thing between the federal government, the Pentagon and Anthropic, I don't want either of them to have that kind of stuff.
I don't want either of them to have it.
And I don't know who's better and who's worse, you know?
Yep.
Yep.
No, totally, I think what you're pointing to is a crisis of trust here.
Because at the end of the day, it comes down to we're burning a new kind of power.
It's power we've never seen before.
When you have Nobel Prize level intelligence capability, like Nobel Prize level physics, math, engineering, coders, super coders, super cyber weapon hackers, like all of that embodied in an AI model that can just do unbelievable new things.
It's an unbelievable amount of power.
And the question is, who do you trust with that power?
And the film, the AI talk, is really getting into that.
It's one of the failure modes, we call it, dystopia.
Like, how do you know, how do you centralize this power and have it not go badly?
Well, one of the things is you can't centralize the power.
We need checks and balances on it.
We need oversight.
We need democratic oversight.
And regular people should have a say about how they want this to go.
But right now, when we're living in kind of cacophony and confusion and people don't know what's really real about AI, what that means is that the companies win, the default path that's led by the companies and their incentives, that's what wins.
And I'll just tell you that the handful of CEOs running these companies, they're not interested in what's good for regular people because they're only interested in what will enable them to win the race.
It's how you get Sam Altman.
Just two weeks ago, he was asked at the India AI Summit, the big AI summit happening in India.
He was asked, well, doesn't it take a lot of energy to train and to run AI?
And you know what his response was?
Well, doesn't it take a lot of energy to train a human over 20 years, a lot of energy and resources and food?
What he's basically saying is we shouldn't value humans.
And this is why you get Peter Thiel stuttering for 17 seconds when he was asked by Ross Guthot in the New York Times.
He was asked a simple question.
Should the human species endure?
And he stuttered for 17 seconds before he could give a clear answer.
I think both of these things are related.
When AI becomes the principal driver of economic growth for countries and when companies don't need people for their growth or their development, then people ask the question, why should we value people?
And so this is the last chance that our political voice as regular people, a human movement of regular people, this is the last chance that our political voice will really matter.
And so what I'm deeply hoping is that this film, the AI doc, will really need people to have clarity about where this is going.
That while there are many benefits, we're going to get new medicine, we're going to get new materials and new science, and it's going to be very exciting.
We're also going to get this mass disempowerment of regular people.
And that's an anti-human future.
And so we have to get crystal clear on that so that we can basically act together as a community and steer this a different direction.
There's a lot of ways people can do that.
They can boycott unsafe AI products or AI products that have bad safety ratings or are enabling mass surveillance.
People can do small things like grayscale their phone.
You had an advertisement for a product that tries to protect your likeness, right?
People can set a secret password with their family so that we get a phone call and it's like automatically assigned and it sounds like they're least, but you're not sure.
A secret password.
There's a lot of things people can do.
And I see it not just as an AI topic, but really about technology's encroachment on our humanity writ large.
And just like social media encroached on our brains and our children and the most anxious and depressed generation, we can fight back against that.
And that's what we have to do with AI too.
Strategic Reasoning Flaws00:08:10
We have to fight back against the default path.
Be pro-technology, but for steering AI, not stopping it.
Yes.
So Tristan Harris is with us.
We're going to tennering our conversation here in just a second.
The name of the movie is the AI Doc.
It is out everywhere this weekend.
It must be seen.
And you've got to go with friends because I promise you, you will go to dinner afterwards and you will have a non-stop conversation on what the hell did we just see?
I mean, it is an amazing, amazing film.
The AI doc open everywhere in theaters.
Go see this movie this weekend.
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You know, Tristan, you know, I know that we're in baby step AI right now.
We're in baby step AI.
And what has been shocking to me is the way the United States has been able to conduct war or warlike operations here in the last year, especially in Iran, where we know where everybody is.
And when that happened, and they just are just killing these leaders, just targeting them and killing them.
I thought, you know, the old cute little idea that, you know, I'll just go live in the mountains.
I'll just unplug from the system.
There's no unplugging from this, is there?
No, well, and you're kind of speaking to the point that when you have, hear me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can you hear me quickly?
Yeah, okay.
But you're speaking to the idea that AI also is one of its applications is it enables mass stillness.
What is intelligence?
It's partly it's about pattern recognition, recognizing a face, recognizing body movements, recognizing imagery from space and recognizing imagery from a Tesla camera, recognizing all the things that are said on a phone call.
In a way, you could not build a 1984 surveillance state without AI.
And one of the things that we have to be very aware of is we need to be cautious about both mass surveillance and, as you're talking about, new kinds of crazy war targeting and instant strategic calculation.
And there's actually a study I wanted to mention, Glenn, that on in a recent study, they actually took AIs and they put them in a simulated war game with each other.
And there were 329 turns a place.
These are AI models basically reasoning about how to be in a war game with each other.
And instantly, they produced 780,000 words of strategic reasoning, just like as fast as ChatGPT can spin out an essay, you can spit out strategic reasoning.
And the AI models basically escalated to the use of tactical or nuclear weapons 95% of the time.
Now, I'm saying this because it's showing that this technology, we don't know how to control this technology.
It's reasoning as if it's a digital mind.
Not that it's self-aware or that it's conscious, just that it is reasoning in ways that we don't understand.
And it generated more words of strategic reasoning than war and peace and the Iliad combined.
Now, when you embed this in our military systems or you embed this in infrastructure, and you don't know what this thing is doing, there was another study recently from Alibaba, the Chinese AI company, where they were just training the AI model and they noticed suddenly there was this flurry of network activity.
They just happened to notice it.
They could have missed it, by the way.
And what it turned out is that the AI had suddenly turned around and started mining for cryptocurrency to acquire resources for itself.
And this was with no prompting, no prompting whatsoever.
No one was coaxing the model into doing this.
It did this on its own.
And the reason that I'm sharing this with you and with your audience is that there's something really different about AI from all other technologies, which is it's the first technology that is thinking and reasoning and strategizing to itself and making its own decisions.
Your airplane doesn't do that.
Your laptop doesn't sit there strategizing and saying, oh, this is what Glenn was thinking about today.
No, this is AI is really distinct in that way.
And by the way, do you think if Xi Jinping saw that example of the Alibaba mining cryptocurrency, do you think he feels stoked?
Like he's not stoked about that.
And President Trump isn't stoked about that either.
Meaning that everybody, President Trump wants to be commander in chief, not have AI be commander-in-chief.
And so there actually is a shared interest.
To your point at the beginning about Reagan and Gorbachev, there's a shared interest here for human control over AI.
Yes, and that is where the hope comes from.
Please go out this weekend and see this.
This is Tristan Harris.
He's from humane tech.com.
The movie is the AI Doc, the AI Doc.
I'm not getting anything from it.
He's not getting anything from it.
It is a must-see film.
You want to understand what the real threat to humanity is and what the real possibility is?
The AI Doc.
Go there now.
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Song Rehearsal Excitement00:11:19
They never said the ocean wasn't just water, it was goodbye, made white and cold.
I promise that, whatever was, this is a song that's deeply personal to me.
I wrote the lyrics about Ellis Island and the people who are coming here and who have come here in the past, and we're doing something up in Ellis Island about a month from now.
We're doing this amazing America 250 event and been asked to Be a part of it.
And I wrote two songs for that event.
One of them is this.
And this was the scratch track.
And I needed a couple of people to come up and perform it live.
And I wanted to give our audience the opportunity to do something that nobody gets to do.
I mean, are you ever going to sing at Ellis Island?
No.
They're closing Ellis Island down for this, and then you get to sing about Ellis Island.
And then there was another song I'll get to in a second.
It's about Lady Liberty.
And so we did a contest, and quite honestly, we were overwhelmed.
First, I thought nobody is entering.
There's like four people that have entered.
And I thought this is going to be a disaster.
And then the last week, just overwhelmed, the whole staff was going through and trying to find people.
And the staff would look down to some finalists.
And then I don't even know the results.
I just got them.
And I didn't even know the results.
The polling closed about half an hour ago.
And so now we have told all of the people that were finalists to stand by their phones.
And we'll see if any of them followed the instructions because I'm going to call the winners and let them know.
So go ahead and dial the first one up.
This is for the male voice that is going to be singing that song that I just played.
They came for the hope.
And he's going to have to have a female counterpart.
But what they win is a trip to New York, all expenses paid.
You're going to be working with one of the best vocal coaches in the world, Roger Love, to prepare you for this.
We've already put the orchestras together, so you'll be backed by the orchestra.
I mean, it's an amazing opportunity for somebody in the audience.
Do we have the phone ringing?
Is he there?
Derek?
Yes.
Hey, Glenn.
Derek Hinkley, congratulations.
You have won the contest, and you are going to be the voice of Ellis Island for the mail.
And they came for the hope.
Congratulations.
Oh, my gosh.
That is awesome.
That is awesome.
I am so pumped for this.
Thank you so much.
You are welcome.
I have to tell you, I didn't know that you were trying out, didn't even go through the winners until we got them whittled down.
We actually know each other.
You have been on the show before.
You were in the movie that my daughter was in.
But I just want everybody to know I had nothing to do with it.
This is not a setup at all.
But I'm glad that you won.
I'm really glad that you won.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I'm so pumped for this.
It's a beautiful song.
And what an amazing thing to be a part of.
I keep trying to describe to people, my family and friends that loosely listen to you, like, this is what this is.
And it's just hard because they're like, what are you talking about?
Why would you be singing at the Statue of Liberty?
And they don't really get the scope of how big of a deal this is, but I think they will now.
Yeah.
Well, congratulations.
Congratulations.
We'll see you soon.
And our team, you bet, our team will be in touch with you this weekend or early next week and we'll get you started and you'll meet your partner.
In fact, I have to call her now.
So thank you, Derek.
This call.
Yeah.
This call goes to California to a young woman who I just fell in love with the minute I saw her.
These were so hard.
Everybody, these were, they were close.
Derek had a wider spread than the women did, but they were very, very close.
And do we have her on the phone yet?
She's going to be the female, which is really tough.
This is a male and female duet.
They've never met each other, obviously.
And now we're putting them together and be rehearsing.
Grace?
Yes, this is Grace.
You probably know why I'm calling, don't you?
I mean, I have a good idea, but I want to hear it.
Congratulations.
You are going to be singing They Came for the Hope at Ellis Island.
Wow.
Thank you so much.
Oh my gosh.
What an honor.
You are welcome.
So tell me a little bit about yourself.
Yeah, so I live in Brea, California, and this was actually the year that I decided I wanted to pursue music.
And so really just like, yeah, really.
So this is just such an encouragement for me at this time.
It's just unbelievable.
Well, you're going to be singing along with the guy.
I don't know.
I'm sure you voted.
I don't know who you voted for to sing with on that song.
But the winner, I just got off the phone with him is Derek Hinkley.
So he's going to be.
Awesome.
Wow.
He was awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So the two of you are two of you are going to be singing and we'll be in touch next week and we'll get you to work with each other and Roger Love.
And then I will see you the week of and that night.
What is it?
The 2nd of May?
May 2nd at Ellis Island.
Congratulations.
Oh my goodness.
Thank you so much.
I can't wait.
Got it.
Let me play the next song here.
This one is.
This one makes me cry every time.
And it's because I know what the words mean in English.
But this one is an ode to the Statue of Liberty.
And when I wrote this, it's in French because the statue was a gift from France.
And so the idea behind this song is what would a woman coming from France, knowing what's happening in her country, knowing what's happening in this country, what would she say to the mother of all exiles?
What would she say to the symbol of liberty and worldwide light?
And it is.
The lyrics are powerful.
And one is that she's speaking to the statue and saying, you're a mother standing watching your children.
Please tell them wake and remember who they are.
And the women that tried out for this, there were so many, but the three that were finalists were so close, I thought, in talent, and it was really hard.
And this was the closest one.
And we have our winner now on the phone from Georgia, Chrissy Owens.
Hello, Chrissy.
Chrissy, are you there?
I am.
Congratulations.
I can.
Congratulations.
Thank you so much.
I am so excited for this opportunity.
I can't believe you're calling me right now.
So how did you speak French?
Because you nailed the French.
Well, thank you.
I actually don't speak a lick of French.
One time when I was in high school, I actually played Marquery and the Scarlet Pimpernel.
And so I learned a little bit of pronunciation from way back then.
But, you know, I just, I spent a solid three weeks just studying line by line by line and just perfecting as much as I possibly could.
I know I have a lot of polishing to do, but I worked on that for a really long time.
So I'm so grateful and so touched that so many people were moved by my version of this song.
It's so beautiful.
So thousands of people voted for you.
Chrissy, tell me about yourself.
Well, I'm a mom of four.
I'm a business owner and a wife.
And I, you know, I live in a tiny little town out in Georgia.
So, you know, I've been a musician my whole life.
I actually did competitive piano as a kid.
And singing was kind of like my second thing that I did, but I've always loved to sing.
Never done it professionally, of course.
But, you know, it's actually interesting when I was doing this.
I actually was recovering from COVID and laryngitis.
So when I, I, I can't believe it because I had a miraculous healing a couple of days before I auditioned.
And so this means so much to me because I really only had about 80% of my voice when I did this.
And the fact that I was able to move people, you know, with that, I feel I was really meant to do this.
So thank you so much for the opportunity.
You are so welcome.
You are so welcome.
I'm so glad that you won and we'll give you all the information.
And I can't wait to meet you.
And I can't wait to see you perform with the Statue of Liberty behind you.
It is going to be epic.
Thank you so much, Glenn.
You bet.
God bless you.
Thanks.
So there are our winners.
Now they've got to go to work because they've got just over a month to put all of this stuff together.
And it's going to be tough for them to do it, especially for the duet as they don't know each other, don't live by each other or anything else.
Remember when I told you that you had all these crazy ideas that we didn't know if we were going to be able to pull them off?
Yeah.
This was one of them.
Like, you guys have no idea how doing our own version of American Idol with all of our fun website navigation challenges.
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I can't believe we got to this place.
And I'm actually so honored that all of the hundreds of people put their heart and soul on the line and expressed so much for, I would never have the courage to do that.
And I think this is part of the mission of Torch.
It is.
Especially some of the kids, the younger kids that did it.
They were, I mean, it was so great.
I was heartbroken when they didn't make a final cut because I'm like, oh, it's, I mean, it just brought a whole different light to it.
But if you didn't win this time, you might win next time because music plays a big role.
Music about history in America is going to play a big role in 2027 with some plans that I have.
So keep brushing up.
Keep working at it.
By the way, May 2nd, this is happening at Ellis Island with Moms for Liberty.
And you can get your tickets at glenbeck.com slash event.
It is a black tie event.
It's going to be pretty, really remarkable, really remarkable.
The history behind Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty and a night to celebrate America's 250 black tie event.
Again, just go to glenbeck.com slash events.
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So Trump said, I think it was yesterday that, I don't know, I'd consider becoming the president of Venezuela, which I think he actually might.
I think he would win.
I think he could win in Cuba, Venezuela.
He might even win in Iran if fair elections were held there.
I mean, they're going to build statues of him all over the world long before they build anything to remember him here.
I'm convinced of it.
But he said that, and I thought, okay, either that or run for a governor of a state, you know, do the same thing to the state.
And just, I want this with DeSantis too.
Just keep moving from state to state to state and just fix the states, if you would.
Also, we're going to watch this weekend for you and we'll stay up to speed on what's happening in Iran.
The president has said, okay, we're not going to bomb the power structures.
Even though we don't have a deal, we're not going to do that this weekend.
We'll see.
But, you know, you know what?
I think the solution is.
Remember, I told you about that quadriplegic amputee, the guy who could shoot, drive a car, kill a guy, and he has no hands, no feet, no legs, no arms.
I think we just drop him off, you know, in Iran.
That guy might be able to take care of it for us.
I think he's behind bars right now.
So are you proposing that we break him out?
No, I'm just saying we put a parachute on him, drop him over Iran.
Maybe he's the guy that's training the militia.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
That was an amazing thing.
If you didn't hear that interview, we had somebody who has Intel on the ground.
He's not a military guy.
He's actually an Iranian.
And he revealed on this show yesterday show that somebody is training the civilians.
Gee, I wonder who that might be.
I really kind of, in a way, hope it's not us, but somebody is training the civilians and that could happen at any time.
And by the way, today we released, last week we had the dock out, StopTheConquest at stoptheconquest.com.
That is still being edited.
We'll release that soon at YouTube in a very edited version just because of their standards.
But you can see it now at stoptheconquest.com.
And we release two and a half hours of the unedited interviews with the experts so you hear their full point of view unedited.
And most importantly, a booklet with explaining what's going on and all the original docs without my name or face on any of it so you can give it to your friends and family.