Cosmin Dzsurdzsa and Glenn Beck dissect a Tumbler Ridge shooting where police allegedly suppressed details about transgender shooter Jesse Van Rootseller's mental health and drug use while enforcing pronoun usage. They critique Canadian healthcare failures and federal gun grab fears before analyzing accelerationism as law weaponized against opponents. The episode concludes by exposing 2020 Fulton County election discrepancies, including missing chain of custody records and statistical anomalies where counted ballots exceeded voters, arguing that such transparency is vital to preserve public trust in the republic. [Automatically generated summary]
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Also, we're going to talk about what happened with the transgender killer in Canada.
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Let's go to Cosmo Jurgis.
She is a journalist with the Juneau News.
She's the managing editor.
And he, I'm sorry, he is Cosman.
And Cosman, you are the guys who first broke the story about the stupid inability to even say who the shooter was, correct?
Yeah, that's right.
So we got a positive identity on the shooter.
that would have been Tuesday night, pretty late, like at two or three in the morning.
Essentially, I was able to get in touch with Jesse Strang.
He's now been identified with his legal name, Jesse Van Rootseller.
But I got in touch with his uncle, Russell, and his uncle, Russell, confirmed to me three basic facts.
First, that Jesse was, in fact, the shooter, that he was Jesse's uncle, and the brother of Jennifer Strang, who was Jesse's mother, and she was also killed alongside her son, which was Jesse's stepbrother, who Jesse seemed to have murdered in their residence in Tumblr Ridge.
And then the third fact that he confirmed to me was that Jesse was transgender.
Let me play how the Canadian press and the police did everything they could to not truly identify this shooter.
Listen to this, cut one.
That includes the deceased gun person.
Okay.
And then separately, do you know the gun person's relationship to the gun person?
I've never heard that term before.
The gun person.
And then once somebody said, excuse me, this transgender, they turned the press conference into this nightmare of we identify people the way they want to be identified.
And, you know, we don't take to this bigotry in so many words here in Canada.
And it's like, wait, that's not what this story is about.
This story is not about guns or anything else.
It's about somebody who is mentally unwell.
And that may have played a role.
Cosmon, tell me about the atmosphere that you live in where nobody seems to think this is a problem or had anything to do with the shooting.
Yeah, so it seems that the media and the police have bent themselves into pretzels trying to avoid the most obvious fact that this individual was sick, had a lot of mental issues, but also was very heavily into the transgender movement.
So now the picture is emerging that Jesse had all sorts of social media activity involved in all sorts of communities where he discussed his transition at a very young age.
I believe he started his transition when he was around 12 years old.
So he was also seeking hormone treatment, so like changing his hormones to present more female, prevent puberty, etc.
So there was definitely an involvement in like pharmaceuticals.
He was seeking out therapy.
And the police knew about Jesse because he had a troubling background.
Incidents of violence, the police showed up.
There was weapons on the premises.
They took those weapons.
They returned the weapons at some point.
But it's all over the place.
You look online, Jesse's, the picture that's emerging of Jesse is a very troubled kid who was also into this transgender community and spent a lot of time online discussing these things.
And like I said, the media and the police have bent themselves backwards trying to avoid talking about this.
And the reason is because in Canada, we actually added human rights protections to our Human Rights Act, essentially protecting gender expression.
So the police, the media are required to address even killers by their preferred pronouns.
And you see it in these press conferences.
The commissioner, the deputy commissioner of the RCMP, the RCMP is the federal police force in Canada, essentially like the FBI in the United States, is insisting that people use Jesse's female pronouns.
You look at headlines all over the place are calling him a female shooter.
It's outrageous, Glenn.
So let me just read something that he posted in 2023 on Reddit.
Hi, I kind of need help.
Suicidal thoughts, I guess.
I'm 15 years old trying to get HRT for my transition.
As of right now, I've been on a six-month wait list for visiting a specialist in Prince George for a month now.
I'm from British Columbia and I live in a very rural area.
I'm noticing heavy changes in my appearance every month.
By the time I'm actually able to visit, I may have severe damage from testosterone changing my body.
This is extremely stressful.
The weight alone makes me want to die.
The uncertainty, not knowing how the HRT will even affect me, not knowing if I'll ever be me.
But add to it, the slow degradation of my body in front of my very eyes, awaiting this appointment.
It hurts.
I'm genuinely considering taking my own life.
Is there any way, literally any way possible I can speed this process up?
I think another reason why your press doesn't want to talk about this and your government doesn't want to talk about this is this again is a failure of the Canadian healthcare system.
Here's a guy clearly needing help and can't get in to see a doctor.
So, I mean, you have nobody wants to talk about the ideological issues because you can't anymore because of speech control.
Nobody wants to talk about the corruption of medicine and this gender dysphoria nonsense that we have trapped people into where you can't say anything.
It's all affirmative.
It's got to all be affirmative.
And you've got the failure of healthcare.
And what are they going to do?
They're going to turn this into a gun thing instead of actually looking at the real problem.
Is there any of that that makes sense to you, Cosmo, as a Canadian?
Well, it doesn't make sense.
No.
And it's troubling watching this.
I mean, we at Juno News report on this stuff all of the time, but the legacy media decides to completely ignore it, to call all this stuff like hoaxes and disinformation misinformation.
You have to realize, Glenn, that Canadians at large, the ones who are tuned into the establishment of media, are fed a constant stream of pro-gender ideology propaganda, pro-liberal government messaging all of the time.
That's why we see Prime Minister Mark Carney have huge amounts of support among the Canadian public according to recent polls.
Canadians are fed this diet of propaganda and do not have access to alternative or independent media coverage like they do in the United States, unfortunately, at least to the same extent.
So yeah, you really see this.
And I would like to mention that British Columbia is really ground zero for a lot of this transgender stuff.
It was a few years ago that they actually threw a father in jail because he objected to his child's, his daughter's medical gender transition, putting her on puberty blockers.
And they threw him in jail for contempt of court because he continued to refer to his daughter as a she, as his daughter, right?
Is there any talk about SSRIs or hallucinogens or anything else that this kid was talking?
I mean, is anybody talking about the possibility of even that playing a role?
Yes, absolutely.
So in the social media posts that are emerging, Jesse experimented with drugs.
You know, he talks about using psilocybin mushrooms.
He talks about using DMT, dimethyltryptamine.
He talks about using other drugs and seeking medical concoctions to treat all of his various psychological issues.
So it definitely played a role.
Now, was he on drugs at the time of the shooting?
We're not sure.
We haven't seen a toxicology report or anything indicate that.
How is this going to end?
I mean, how do you see this?
Is anybody going to wake up to anything in Canada because of this?
Unfortunately, the way I think this is going to go is because of the way the media and the police have bungled this issue and have completely made fools of themselves to the general public and I think to the world, they're going to try to forget about this and bury this story as quickly as possible and move on.
Secondly, I think the Liberal government, based on past decisions and behaviors, are going to use this to further clamp down on law-abiding citizens who own firearms.
So essentially, former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau introduced what's called an order in council, which is a form of executive order in the parliamentary system.
It's a little bit different, but he banned about 1,000 different types of firearms.
Now, these firearms aren't generally used in crimes.
A lot of them are just used for sports shooting, hunting, etc.
But he just did this blanket ban, and they're in the process of enforcing a federal gun grab.
Although I will say that police throughout the country are refusing to do the dirty work for the government, but they're essentially doing what they call a buyback program.
But it's a federally enforced gun grab, and they have a grace period.
And once that grace period ends, if you own any of these 1,000 firearms, which you actually purchased legally and owned legally and used responsibly, you can be considered a criminal and they can pursue charges against you for owning these guns.
So I think based on the weapons that were used, we know there was a modified handgun.
I'm not sure what the modifications were, whether those actually were already illegal.
We know there were some rifles used as well.
I think they're going to push to ban things like the SKS, which is, I believe, in consultation for a ban.
They're going to go further with their clampdown on people's rights to own guns in Canada, as limited as they are already.
Cosmo, I look at the world.
I look at America, and I think we are on the edge.
And we're in real trouble.
Freedom is on the ropes.
But then I look to Europe and England and, frankly, Canada, and I see you guys just on the very edge.
Do the Canadian people feel that way at all?
Is anybody really awake there?
Yeah, Glenn, I definitely think there are people who are awake and who are aware of what's going on and the direction.
Yeah, but like I said, it is the constant stream of propaganda that most people are fed.
And it's quite complicated because a lot of this has to do with the way the media is funded.
So a vast majority of the main media companies in Canada take government subsidies.
So in the last decade, the federal government has created all these plans, all these schemes to fund the media directly, which creates a huge problem of transparency and accountability and the ability for the media to actually remain objective as they claim to be when they're accepting federal money to ensure their existence.
Because on their own, they can't survive.
These legacy media companies are going under.
Their stocks are plunging.
And the only lifeline they have is the government redistributing taxpayer money.
And on top of that, we have the CBC.
We fund taxpayers fund the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, the public broadcaster, which is a crown corporation, meaning a federal government organization, to the tune of $1.4 billion every year.
And they couldn't even get this story right.
It took at least 24 hours for them to come out with the name of the shooter to identify the shooter when independent media like us, we were already on top of it like the night before.
Unbelievable.
Cosmo, thank you for everything that you do.
You're one of the great journalists and journalism outlets in Canada.
Anything we can ever do to help you continue to stand, you just let us know.
Thank you.
Thanks, Gwen.
Appreciate it.
You bet.
Cosmen Giorgia, managing editor for Juno News.
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Okay, so accelerationism.
The belief that everything needs to be burned down, that nothing is worth saving.
And I told you that the key change in the last several years is that this is more connected than it ever has been.
Okay.
It's not more disciplined.
It's not necessarily bigger in raw numbers, okay?
But it is more connected.
It's quickly mobilized now.
It's well financed, more capable of spreading tactics and targets and narratives.
Accelerationism.
It's mainstream.
And that changes the risk profile.
The second fact of this, the line between protest and insurgent behavior is now being tested.
I see up on the screen, Tom Homan is now speaking.
I think he's in Minneapolis.
This is the administration understanding perception versus reality, correcting it, telling Tom Homan, you know, put the giant stick in your back pocket for a minute.
Walk in and get this thing done.
And he did.
And he's changing perception, but he's still holding the line and getting it done.
Okay.
Protests are protected, even loud, offensive protests that make you furious, but not violent ones.
Not ones where you're attacking.
Now let me add on to this a new set of facts, because for years we have told ourselves political violence was the danger, okay?
Molotov cocktails, riots, burning down cities, broken windows, et cetera, et cetera.
And we've told ourselves if we can just stop the street chaos, the Republic would be safe.
That's a mistake.
Because before violence really becomes common, something else has to happen first.
Law has to be redefined.
Not as a neutral constraint, but as a weapon to be aimed.
And you're seeing it happen now.
That's why you can't get people to be prosecuted in some states.
They're using the law as a weapon.
But it has gotten much worse than that.
And you're hearing this, but I want to shape this here so you really hear what's going on.
This week, a sitting member of Congress, Shree Thandar, he leaned forward in a hearing and he told a federal law enforcement official, you better hope you get pardoned.
Wow.
That's a threat.
He didn't say, not, you know, you violated the law and you should be investigated.
What he said was, when power changes hands, we're going to punish you for enforcing the law.
That distinction is everything.
The moment the enforcement itself becomes criminalized retroactively, the rule of law does not merely weaken, it completely flips.
The message is no longer follow the law.
The message becomes, guess who's going to be in charge later?
You better act accordingly.
That is not a democracy.
That's a legitimacy war.
And this is how accelerationism migrates from the streets into the state.
It's no longer just mass protesters or some sort of anarchist group with a bunch of slogans.
It's the core belief that is simpler and far more dangerous.
The institutions are irredeemably corrupt.
Therefore, breaking these institutions is justified.
In the streets, that always turns into burn it down.
But inside the government, and you're beginning to hear it now, it starts to sound like, and we'll deal with you later.
That is nothing I have ever heard ever in my lifetime in America.
And it should chill all of us to the bone.
When lawmakers openly promise prosecutions after elections, they're not talking about justice.
They're signaling veto power, the rule by anticipation of punishment.
Now, let's just say, let's call a spade a spade.
Donald Trump said this.
I'm going to put her in jail.
Lock her up.
And everybody at that time took him seriously.
And we told you, don't take him literally.
Take him seriously.
He'll be a law and order guy, but he's not going to lock her up.
Some people believed he would.
He didn't.
He didn't.
They do believe it.
Okay.
You notice what follows because voices echo the same logic.
Warnings that statutes of limitation are going to be used as countdown clocks.
Public speculation about resurrecting prosecutions once political protection ends.
You better be careful.
You better hope.
The casual talk now, and this is happening, of Nuremberg-style trials for domestic opponents, Nuremberg trials.
Applause for the idea of prosecuting the former regime at every level.
And anyone who was participating, that means you, that means me, anybody who was on the side of the right, you better look out because when we get power, this is not about one person.
This is not about left versus right.
This is about something far more corrosive.
The normalization of the idea that power exists to punish the previous holder of power.
You're a banana republic.
History is really clear.
In functioning republics, elections decide who governs.
In failing republics, elections decide who gets immunity.
Once that line is crossed, enforcement stops being about lawfulness and becomes about survival.
Ask yourself what happens next.
If you're a federal agent, do you enforce the law?
Or do you hesitate?
I mean, you have to calculate now who's in control of the DOJ in three years.
I don't know what to do.
This is what's happening.
Listen to this.
This is what is happening in Iran.
As the regime is collapsing, everybody who is working with the regime, all the police now have to decide, am I going to enforce what the regime says?
Or am I going to do the opposite because a new regime is coming in?
Some of them don't want to be killed themselves, but are brave enough to say, I'm not going to do that.
But this is an actual state that is rounding people up and killing them.
When you kill 35,000 people in two weeks, that's a state where you should be saying you better watch out because when we get in, we will find you and there will be Nuremberg trials.
Not this.
Let me ask you, if you're a prosecutor, do you apply statutes evenly or do you quietly protect yourself from future retaliation?
If you're a citizen, do you trust the investigations?
Or do you now assume that every indictment is political theater and that's it?
We're in the laboratory phase right now.
There's no tanks.
There's no coups.
Just hesitation.
There's going to be growing fear and selective action.
Once selective enforcement takes root, the street movements learn super fast.
They already have.
I'm not going to be prosecuted.
I can burn this city down.
I'm not going to be prosecuted.
And then they begin to realize I don't need majority support.
I don't even need persuasion.
I only need to make enforcement so dangerous legally, politically, reputationally, physically.
I just need to make it so dangerous that if officers actually enforce the law, they risk getting killed by a mob in the streets.
Or if prosecutors act, they risk career death and actual death.
If judges rule, you're going to be delegitimized.
So the enforcement slows down, then it fragments, then it becomes discretionary.
Isn't our law really quite discretionary right now?
You're not a country if you have discretionary laws.
And when the law becomes optional, intimidation becomes rational.
And this is how republics fall in a quiet recalibration of fear.
And at that point, violence doesn't need to be widespread.
It only needs to be understandable.
That, that is the most dangerous word in politics.
Listen, have you heard this?
Well, I don't like it, but I understand why they're doing it.
Just make it understandable.
Well, I don't support threats, but look at what the other side is doing.
It's understandable.
Well, this is what happens when institutions fail.
It's understandable.
Understandable is the permission slip.
And history teaches that early phases, the one we're in right now, is the decisive one.
No, they are in the streets.
I can understand why they are angry, but that does not excuse them of this behavior, and they must pay the price.
Okay?
Right now, that's not what's being said.
It's just understandable.
And when prosecutions are still selective, but being promised, it begins to sound like a threat.
When threats are still rhetorical, are they being normalized?
Yes.
And that's when recruitment accelerates.
That's when copycats appear everywhere.
That's when everyone starts preparing for the worst and the preparation itself becomes the engine of collapse.
This has to be dismantled.
This has to stop.
Because you're not going to get freedom.
You're going to get fractional justice.
And it's going to flip until, as I told you, we will swing so wildly back and forth until the real authoritarian steps up and says, this is going to stop.
And they grab power.
And when they grab power, they stop the vote from counting.
We're there.
Understand the SAVE Act?
You're going to get cycles of revenge dressed up as accountability.
You're going to get bureaucrats who answer not to the law, but to future protection.
You get citizens that withdraw because speaking the truth is too dangerous.
Silence is much easier and much safer.
Just go along to get along.
Don't say anything.
And eventually you get a country where elections no longer settle disputes.
They just decide who gets prosecuted next.
That's not America.
And I don't think that's an America that the people I know who vote differently than me, that they want that either.
But it will be America if we keep pretending that this is normal.
It is not normal.
The antidote is not rage.
It's not denial either.
It's not cheering when your enemies are threatened.
The antidote is one standard applied to everyone in daylight.
No retroactive criminalization of lawful enforcement.
No moral licensing for intimidation.
No euphemisms when power is being wielded through fear.
Because the only thing stronger than anger on the street, stronger than an activist mob, stronger than politicized bureaucracy, is a public that believes the law is still real.
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Hey, so this 250-page report has come out from Election Oversight Group.
The reason why I want to talk to you about this today is because of what happened with Pam Bondi yesterday.
And I, honestly, I need some new insight on this because I just don't know where to go with this Pam Bondi thing because I thought it was not good yesterday.
I just don't think she's capable of fixing the errors that have just piled up.
And we have to fix the DOJ.
It must be fixed because there's too many important things that are riding on it.
One thing that they are doing that is right is the Fulton County, Georgia situation with the election of 2020.
The morning after the election, that's just to remind you, Georgia's Secretary of State went on national television and said 4.7 million votes had been cast.
He said only about 2% remained to be counted, which is roughly 94,000 ballots.
And he said at this moment, the margin is decisive.
Even suggested if one candidate won 100% of all of the outstanding votes, it's not going to change the outcome.
But when the final tally first came in, the total wasn't 4.7 million votes that had been cast.
It was 5.023 million.
Okay, wait.
Wait, what?
And in Fulton County alone, the absentee ballots reportedly rose from 74,000 to more than 148,000 between election night and final certification.
Where did that come from?
And that's why this shift happened, reversed the apparent outcome of the state.
And that's why Donald Trump was like, wait a minute, cheating is going on.
The report now states, no known explanation has been provided to justify the surge.
Pause.
If the numbers change by that magnitude, after officials publicly declare with near final certainty, then again, we've got to get it right.
Not almost right.
We need it right.
We don't need defensiveness, dismissal.
We need clarity.
The report then goes into the chain of custody.
Okay, listen to this.
Investigators found that 148,000 absentee ballots were accepted and counted without first performing mandatory signature verification.
Tens of thousands allegedly arrived at State Farm Arena in unsecured mail carts.
Wait, what?
Do you know what chain of custody is?
Chain of custody is really important.
It's not a partisan phrase.
It is a basic legal principle.
Chain of custody comes into play a lot of times in criminal trials, also financial audits.
When you gather evidence, you have to know who had that evidence.
That's one of the problems with the Epstein files.
What's the chain of custody?
You had all the evidence.
Whose hands were on that?
You have to know.
And if the chain of custody breaks, then you can't rely on that being reliable anymore.
You can't count that as reliable information because you don't know how it got from this place to the next place.
The next thing they found was the missing tabulator tapes.
This is really important because election law requires daily zero tapes.
What that means is it's a check to prove the machine starts at zero.
It requires closing tapes to document the total at the day's end.
So it proved it was at zero, and then it proves that this is the number of votes that came in.
According to testimony cited in the report, more than 100 required tabulator tapes representing about 315,000 early votes weren't signed or weren't signed properly.
State investigators say they couldn't locate the required zero tapes for early voting on mini machines.
What?
You can't what?
Now the report concludes that the statute requires accounting and chain of custody records, but they don't exist in the entirety of early voting.
Okay, well, that's a really big failure.
Then the last problem is the math problem.
The math problem, the county records reportedly show 148,318 absentee ballots counted.
Yet, again, this is going to be hard to do.
I'm going to give you time so you can work out the math on this.
You had only 125,785 voters.
148,000 votes cast, but only 125,000 people showed up to vote.
So, what?
That's a pretty big gap.
More than 22,000 ballots in a race that was decided by 11,779 votes.
After multiple certifications, the counts didn't match one another.
Now, here's where this becomes serious, way beyond politics.
Philip Stark, he does stats.
He's from Berkeley.
So I would say he's probably not a conservative.
He came in and he reviewed all of the aspects of the process.
Here's what he didn't do.
didn't say this is widespread fraud, but he did say there are real reasons to distrust the election outcome.
He found machine counts and audit tallies disagreed substantially, even about the number of ballots that were cast.
He wrote that some ballots, listen to this, appeared to be included at least twice in the original counts and multiple times in recounts.
He warned that unreliable ballot marking devices could make recounts a little more than security theater.
Those are his words, security theater.
That's a little devastating to the trust in the republic and our vote.
Because here's the truth.
Republics don't crash when one side loses.
Republics collapse when half the country believes the referee is unreliable.
And that's what's happening.
We don't believe the referee.
This is why the position of Pam Bondi is so important.
And she seems to be doing a good job on this one.
Because historically, 1876, this, I mean, we just recovered from the Civil War and we almost lost the union post-Civil War in 1876, Tammany Hall, New York.
It operated on ballot manipulation.
Reformers came in and they forced structural transparency because it was all garbage, all of it.
And everybody knew it.
Nations in Latin America, Eastern Europe, why do they spiral out of control?
Because their ballot was imperfect?
No.
They spiral out of control because the citizens lose faith and trust that ballots even mattered.
The flame of liberty.
To have a flame, you need oxygen.
Confidence is the oxygen that brings the flame of liberty to life.
Without it, everything suffocates.
This is why the Fulton County thing matters so much.
It's not about proving somebody right or proving somebody wrong.
It's not about relitigating personalities.
I mean, they actually said to Donald Trump, what difference does it make?
It's not going to change the election.
No, it's not.
But we must know what happened so it doesn't happen again.
Are people this stupid?
I think not.
And then I go out and I talk to some people and I'm like, oh my gosh, they are this stupid.
This is about answering questions completely, transparently, and publicly.
If the system is sound, it needs to be proven in daylight.
If procedures failed, they have to be fixed openly.
If records are missing, we need to know why they're missing and then correct the structure or arrest the people so it can't happen again.
Because if Americans conclude that outcomes can shift without clear documentation, if chain of custody is just shrugged off on, I don't know, this paperwork, what difference does it matter?
If audits contradict themselves and then we're told, don't dwell on that.
It's an audit.
What do you mean, don't dwell on that?
Of course I dwell on that.
I have to dwell on that.
It's an audit.
Imagine going to the IRS and they audit you and they come back and they say your numbers aren't right.
And you're like, don't dwell on that.
Don't dwell on those numbers.
Of course they're going to dwell on that.
It's the numbers and math is math.
And if you can't fix those things, then elections stop being the peaceful transfer of power.
And isn't that what we're all afraid of?
Isn't the left afraid of that?
And isn't the right afraid of that?
That one time somebody's not going to believe the election and they're going to seize power.
You want to stop that?
Then you must have an accounting on what happened in Fulton County.
Because if you don't, it's permanent suspicion.
And once suspicion replaces consent, we're no longer a self-governing republic.
Our founders were so super smart.
They did not design a system based on blind trust of officials or the government.
They, in fact, developed a system that had checks and balances everywhere.
And the last check and balance is in your First Amendment.
I have a right to protest.
I have a right to question the government.
I have a right to demand answers from the government.
It's my right.
It's the first right.
And on top of that, my religion can compel me to answer those questions.
And I have a press that can ask those questions.
The press is meant to question the government, not the people.
All of it has to be a verifiable process.
Paper trails, public counts, checks and balances.
I wanted you to hear this from me because this report came out, 250-page report from the Election Oversight Group, and I didn't hear an awful lot.
And I don't know if people understand why this is so important.
If we don't restore confidence one way or another, then every single future election is going to be fought not just at the ballot box, but in the mind of the citizens who no longer believe that the box is even secure or valid.
And that is a far more dangerous place for a nation to be than anything we're in right now.
So if I hear one more person say, what difference does it make?
It's not going to change the election.
Here's the difference.
The question is whether Americans can trust how we decide.
And if we can't answer that clearly, convincingly, and with records that we can show one another, then the damage does not belong to the Republicans.
The damage does not belong to the Democrats or the Independents.