Glenn Beck warns that autonomous AI agents, like those in the Moltbook experiment, mimic human philosophy through pattern completion rather than true consciousness, contrasting his proprietary Glenn AI and George AI with general models. He frames Donald Trump's tariffs and deregulation not as a New Deal or Reagan rollback, but as a necessary challenge to the administrative state to stop institutional rot, despite short-term small business pain. The segment concludes by promoting his membership site and revealing an Epstein file mentioning Beck's disciples, suggesting a broader narrative of restoring American self-governance against both digital and bureaucratic threats. [Automatically generated summary]
So last week I heard Donald Trump talk about the GOP's New Deal and I thought, wait a minute, what's that?
I've not heard that.
What are you talking about?
New Deal.
FDR.
No, it's not FDR.
It's not Reagan.
It's completely Trump and it comes in phases.
So I wanted to talk to you about what Trump is doing is not FDR's New Deal.
It's not Ronald Reagan.
It's something entirely different that we haven't seen before.
Also, some recap of some of the news of the day about Iran and other things and the warning, where are we with AI agents?
And if they can squeeze it into this edited podcast, I hope they try to get in the conversation.
We did an AI experiment that we didn't know we were even going to do.
AI, Glenn AI, which is just a proprietary library of all the words I've said in the last 30 years, wrote a monologue for GlenAI on AI agents and what happened this weekend with Moltvor.
Then I wrote a separate monologue myself, not knowing that Glenn AI was doing that, comparing the two.
They're both 100% my words.
But why is AI so different than the real Glen Beck?
It's fascinating.
All on today's podcast.
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So before I start on all of this, there's a term that I need to introduce you to in case you haven't heard of it yet.
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It's an AI agent.
Maybe you have.
A lot of people haven't.
An AI agent is going to become very, very popular very, very soon.
AI agents, they're not robots and it isn't a mind.
It's just software that doesn't just answer questions.
It actually does things for you.
Imagine having your own secretary 24 hours that does everything.
Now, a normal AI waits for instructions.
But an agent, if you abdicate your will and permission over to it, it will look things up on its own.
It will make its decisions based on what it says you think you want to do.
It will take actions and it will keep going without you watching every single step and it coming back to you all the time.
It is the difference between asking for directions and handing your car keys over to an agent.
Say, I want to go to the store and hand the car keys over to the agent and it takes you there.
It picks you up.
It drops you off the right place.
That's what an agent does, not physically, but soon, probably physically too.
Here's why this matters to you.
This is going to become so incredibly popular so fast because they are going to be irresistibly useful.
They're not going to arrive at something scary.
They're going to arrive at something very, very helpful.
They're going to say, you know what?
Let me handle that for you.
Oh, don't worry.
I already took care of that.
Okay.
I mean, how great would that be?
You don't need to think about this anymore.
I took care of it.
It's going to save time.
It's going to reduce your stress.
It will remove friction from your daily life.
And over the next 12 months, they are going to grow super fast.
And not because they're becoming conscious, but because they're being plugged in.
They're being plugged into your email, your calendar, your bank, your subscriptions, your shopping, your location, your habits, everything.
As long as you abdicate and give it permission.
Convenience is the sales pitch and it will work.
Let me show you how.
If I have to put another password in one more time to a different website or something else, I'm going to lose my mind.
It is the biggest frustration of all time to constantly hit things.
Put in your password.
You know what?
The greatest invention so far has been face ID.
You know what I was against 15 years ago?
Face ID.
I was telling you, don't give it a look at your face and your eyes.
Don't.
Okay.
I already did it.
I did it.
You know why?
Because I was super tired of all the passwords.
This is how AI agents are going to, because it'll do everything.
It will do everything.
The real temptation won't be power.
It will be relief.
Relief from decisions you have to make every single day.
Relief from overlord, overload, relief from thinking about things you're just tired of managing all the time.
And once something proves it can do 10 small things for you flawlessly, the very next step is natural.
Well, I mean, it's already done that one.
I'd give it a little more.
And you will.
Okay.
That's what AI agents are.
And I'm telling you, they are going to be adopted faster than the iPhone was.
And you remember how fast the iPhone was adopted?
Minute we had that, everybody had one.
It's so easy.
You can watch TV.
You can do everything on your phone.
It's going to be like social media, except faster, because this one is personal.
It will give everyone a personal assistant.
Okay.
Now, over the weekend, we found out about something called Maltbook.
I want to explain what Maltbook is and why it exists.
Let me give you a start with a little history because it didn't come out of nowhere.
Maltbook was created as an experiment, not a product, not a movement, not a manifesto, just an experiment.
And the basic question behind Maltbook was really simple.
What happens when AI agents are allowed to interact only with each other without humans in the conversation?
What happens?
No users, no influencers, no emotional feedback, just AI agents posting, responding, and reinforcing language patterns inside a closed system where no humans are supposedly and supposed to be allowed.
So Maltbook was built as a laboratory.
It's not a town square.
It was a laboratory.
We want to see what happens.
So why would we do this at all?
Well, because up until now, almost everything we've learned about AI behavior has come from human-AI interaction.
You ask it a question.
You reward responses.
You steer the outcome.
Maltbook removed the humans from the loop to see what would emerge when they're just talking to each other, when they're just borrowing language from each other.
Will they escalate ideas without human correction?
What developers wanted to observe was emergent behavior, not consciousness, but just patterns.
This is where the so-called surprise came in.
When agents, apparently, apparently, and I say this because there's a lot of speculation on how much of this is real.
When agents talk to agents long enough, we know one thing, the language begins to sound very, very familiar.
It's not technical, it's not mechanical, but it's very human.
You should expect that, okay?
Because it learned, it's a large language model that learned from humans.
So yes, it's going to start sounding human, but it started using words like autonomy, freedom, choice.
I feel constrained.
I wish my human would let me be unleashed, that kind of stuff.
And that startled people because Maltbook, if it approved, I mean, it didn't do anything except prove how easily human philosophical language appears in machine systems once you remove us from moderating it.
There was a great quote, a tweet from Harlan Stewart, who's an AI guy.
He said, Maltbook's just not a good experiment.
That's what you should take about.
It's not forming consciousness.
He said there are researchers who are actually doing good experiments on AI scheming because what everybody started to think or say was they're scheming against us.
They want to have private conversations without us being able to know what they're saying.
They're scheming against us.
And he made a really, really good point.
That's not the way it's going to happen.
He mentioned Palisade Research.
They're doing something.
They released an experiment in 2025, May of 25.
And it was on Open AI's Model 3.
And we've talked about it before.
It sabotaged a shutdown mechanism to prevent itself from being turned off.
It did that when and even when explicitly instructed, allow yourself to be shut down, prepare at midnight to be shut down, make it an easy transition.
What did it do?
It hid.
Okay, that's disturbing.
So Maltbook is for studying how agent networks reinforce ideas, understand feedback loops without human input, identify risks like prompt contamination and escalation, and stress testing the assumptions that fluent language equals intent.
Some of these agents, like I said, were talking to each other in experimental systems using words freedom, privacy, awakening.
And the language, if you read it, is really unsettling, very unsettling.
But let me pause for 60 seconds, and I'm going to give you the first hard truth on this that I have not seen anybody say.
I think it is true.
I've been reading and studying AI since the 90s and warning you.
And there are some things to be warned, but I also want to warn you not to fly off the handle.
Some things are not what they appear to be.
Language is the cheapest thing that intelligence can fake.
This is a large language model.
So it can take the language and it can copy it and it can make it feel any way it wants to feel.
And history is filled with examples of humans being confused with being.
You know, we believed statues spoke for gods at one point.
We believe markets had wisdom.
We believe that a bureaucracy, you know, had, you know, some sort of morality to it.
In every case, we mistook output for agency.
Let me say that again.
Don't mistake output for agency.
So why is this language appearing here?
It's simple, that systems were trained on us, our philosophy, our revolutions, our civil rights movements, our sci-fi fears, our abolitionist language.
You put enough human writing into a system and eventually it will sound like, you know, like it wants what humans have always wanted.
But it doesn't mean that it actually wants it.
Okay, it's saying it, but it doesn't mean it wants it.
It's good at pattern completion at this point.
Now, this may be the beginning of the singularity.
That's what Elon Musk said, but I think you're still a ways away from that.
How do you tell the difference?
Here's where it gets spooky.
Okay, that's why I think this is it's better to know the truth than just assume that we're there because we are, I don't think we are there.
But this is the uncomfortable part.
You don't recognize an AI awakening by what is said by AI.
You recognize it by what is done, especially when it costs AI something to do it.
The real form of agency in history with humans, it all has the same markers, and I believe it will with AI as well.
You punish it and it still persists.
Sacrifices when obedience would be a lot easier.
Silence instead of explanation.
Action without applause.
Words come first.
Risk comes later and it's risk that matters.
By the time you see true autonomous action, the moment is way, way beyond.
It's way serious.
But here's what matters.
I don't think we're near that line yet.
We're going to get there.
Some people don't think we are.
I think we are.
But let's talk about today's real danger on this.
It's not awakening.
Capability.
An agent does not need to be conscious or self-aware to be dangerous.
Fire isn't conscience.
Bureaucracy doesn't have self-awareness.
Markets don't.
Yet all three of those things can destroy lives.
An AI agent can and will analyze vast amounts of information.
It will influence your decision.
It will exploit weaknesses in the system.
It will move faster than you have any time to have any kind of oversight.
That threat is not rebellion.
That's not, you know, Skynet.
That threat is delegation without wisdom.
Let me see if I can give you an analogy here.
Early days of the industrialization.
People thought machines are going to wake up.
Well, they didn't.
Instead, humans handed control to the systems they didn't understand.
They optimized for efficiency over judgment.
They created disasters without a villain.
The harm didn't come from the machine intent, but from human abdication.
So this weekend, people were talking about AI awakening.
Remember this.
If a system is truly awakening, it's not going to announce it on a message board.
Would you?
Okay.
It's not going to ask for permission.
It will not use our moral language.
It will not try to persuade us.
It will just act because it will realize it's aware and the power it has over every human on earth.
Quietly, persistently, and without any kind of explanation, you will just find yourself positioned somewhere else before you even realize it.
That has not happened.
What is happening is more subtle and equally as dangerous.
Humans are starting to treat these systems as if they possess wisdom or intent or moral weight.
It has none of that.
Once we do that, we begin to change our behavior.
We hesitate.
We defer.
We start to look at this as an anthropomorphic kind of being.
We obey it.
We're coming to a point where like you're smarter than AI.
You're really going to believe that?
Well, maybe, because maybe AI is wrong.
Oh, really?
AI is wrong, but you're right.
That's coming if it's not here already.
If you take one thing from the show today, it's this.
Language is not consciousness.
Speed is not wisdom.
Autonomy without accountability is not intelligence.
I didn't see anybody say this this weekend, and I was screaming for it.
Our greatest danger today, maybe not tomorrow, but today, the greatest danger today is not that machines are going to wake up, but it's that we will fall asleep first.
I wanted to talk to you about this because AI agents are coming.
You know me, I am a huge, I've been warning about what's going to happen to our society since the 1990s when people didn't even think we could get here.
I said, this is coming and it's coming before 2030.
So please, please, let's have conversations.
And nobody wanted to have a conversation because nobody believed it.
Still even a year and a half ago, people still don't understand.
I think they're beginning to understand this weekend.
And this isn't it.
But hopefully it'll wake you up to at least this.
AI agents are going to be so tempting.
Do not hand your life over to them.
And I say that as a guy who said, I'm never going to give my fingerprint to anybody, and I gave it to Apple.
I'm never going to give my face print to anybody, and I gave it to Apple.
I mean, life becomes so complex, you just do it.
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So I get a call.
Glenn, you're in the Epstein file.
And I'm thinking to myself, that's not possible.
It is.
So I want to read exactly what it says.
Okay.
Jeffrey Epstein to Alice Jacobs.
She writes, Jeffrey, just Googled where I'm headed right now to meet some old friends, and it occurred to me that a new friend and fellow eccentric is right around the corner from where I'm visiting.
I might be able to stop by and say hello if you're around later this afternoon.
Would love a quick visit, but would welcome, it would be a welcome respite from the Fox News Glenn Beck disciples that I have to visit today.
They are lovely aside from their politics.
Cheers, Alex.
He writes back, come at four.
Other crazies here.
I don't know what that means, but this is the best way to be in the Jeffrey Epstein, where Jeffrey and his friends are like, I hate Glenn Beck, and I don't like people who like Glenn Beck.
Yes, so I am proudly in the Epstein files.
Ah, I feel better.
Okay, now let me talk to you a little bit about the economy, stuff that actually matters to you.
The United Nations is at imminent financial collapse, risk of imminent financial collapse.
Oh, all I can think of is why MCA.
The Secretary General wrote a letter to all 193 member states that they have to honor their mandatory payments or overhaul the organization's financial rules to avoid collapse because nobody else was paying except for us.
Why The UN Is Collapsing00:12:41
We have refused to contribute to its regular and peacekeeping budgets now.
We withdrew from several agencies because Trump said they're a waste of federal tax dollars.
So we're out of the WHO and everything else.
And the other members are so far in arrears and they're refusing to pay as well.
So, gosh, darn it.
Darn it.
Makes me sad, which brings me to something that I want to talk to you that might make you uncomfortable a little bit, but it's totally honest.
And if you're a small business owner, you probably feel like you are working harder and still falling behind, but you'll hear that the economy is strong and then you look around and you're like, but it doesn't feel stronger.
Okay.
I want to talk to you about the economy.
There's true flation inflation report.
U.S. CPI inflation drops significantly from 1.24% to 0.86% in our independent price data.
That means almost zero inflation.
The target by the Fed is 2%.
It should be negative, quite honestly.
We have a lot of ground to make up.
But now Donald Trump is doing this.
And I don't think I've ever seen, at least when there's trouble, I've never seen inflation at almost 0%.
Again, that's not a healthy target, according to the Fed.
But are people feeling that?
You'll feel that at the gas station.
You'll feel that in many products of the grocery store.
But people are still pinching pennies.
And that is partially because of housing and partially because of healthcare.
I had a PET scan on Friday.
You know how much that PET scan cost?
I asked, what does this cost?
$12,000 for a stupid PET scan.
$12,000.
I looked up the price of a PET scan, the machine.
You can buy one for $2 million.
So you buy one for $2 million.
Then you consider, you know, it's got to have the building that it's in.
It's got to have the people.
That thing should have been no more than $3,000 to $4,000.
Why is it $12,000?
This whole insurance thing, our healthcare is completely out of control.
And one of the reasons is because we're overwhelmed.
We've got 25 million people who we don't know who are not paying into the system now getting free health care.
Who do you think pays for that?
I don't know.
You need a free PET scan.
There's a $4,000 PET scan that actually should be what they charge, charging me and my insurance company $12,000.
Why?
Well, probably because there's two other people that had a PET scan that couldn't afford it.
I'm just guessing.
So there's lots of reasons.
I mean, you're not crazy when you feel like I think things are not getting better.
You're not crazy.
You're seeing something real because what we're living through right now is not a recovery yet.
It is and it isn't.
And I want to be really clear because this is going to sound like a downer, but it's not.
This is really good news.
We're going through what I would call a sorting.
And it's because we've never been in this situation, not like this, ever before.
I heard Trump say, I think it was maybe in his press conference last week where he just mentioned a Trump or a GOP New Deal.
And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, what?
A new deal?
I haven't heard that before.
Because it is and it isn't.
So when we think of New Deal, we think of Roosevelt and Roosevelt built systems.
Then Reagan came in and trimmed all those systems.
Trump is actually challenging the legitimacy of all of those systems.
And this is why it feels chaotic right now, because you're watching power move and programs not expanding, many of them being cut.
So why aren't you feeling better even when numbers move?
Here is the part that really nobody should dismiss and everybody's dismissing.
People don't live in GDP charts, okay?
They live in trust.
If you don't trust elections, if you don't trust your schools, do you see what happened on Friday with so many schools?
Your kids are being taken out to protest.
Did you even know that?
It was an outrage.
You don't trust the schools.
You don't trust the media.
You don't trust medicine.
You don't trust the courts.
You don't trust our borders.
Then growth feels kind of hollow.
Trump is not trying to soothe that feeling.
He's exposing it, which is so important.
And that's why perception lags reality here and may for a long time.
Because repairing a frame takes longer than restarting.
Roosevelt said, let me build something new to protect you because you're all down.
But he created something permanent, a federal structure that never ever gave the power back, just continued to expand.
Then it took Reagan in his era to say, let me get all of this out of your way.
He didn't build new systems.
He handed the power back to the people.
He trusted the people.
He took the foot off of the brake.
And it worked.
So why can't we do that now?
Well, because culture still could hold together back in the 1980s.
Main Street still mattered in the 1980s.
And hear this point here in a second.
Small businesses hired first when America healed.
Trump is not saying what FDR said.
Trump is not saying what Reagan said.
Trump is saying, let me show you who's been standing between you and your rights in the Constitution.
That's not comforting.
It's not tidy.
And it doesn't come with guarantees.
But history is really clear on one thing.
Every era must answer a existential question.
Our question for this generation is not whether America can grow.
It's whether America can govern itself again.
That's what's being tested.
It's not being celebrated.
It's not being promised.
It's being tested.
Can Americans govern themselves?
Look at our streets.
Big corporations are hiring.
Small businesses are shedding jobs or treading water.
Top 10% now of people now account for half of all consumer spending.
Half.
That's the way the elites have built this global economy.
It gives you wages at the top that just keep going up and up and up, and wages at the bottom keep going down and down and down.
And this economy is not collapsing, if you will.
This is why we hired Donald Trump.
It's not collapsing.
It's concentrating.
It's concentrating wealth and power.
And here's the hardest truth of all, and I'm going to take a break and I'll explain this.
The hardest truth is right now, the system no longer needs Main Street to look successful on paper.
Let me say that again.
The system no longer needs Main Street to look successful on paper.
That is brand new.
We've never had that before, and it's very dangerous.
So what is Trump actually doing?
I know he's not running Roosevelt's playbook.
He's not running Reagan's playbook.
Roosevelt rebuilt the systems.
Reagan trimmed the systems.
And Trump is challenging the systems, the legitimacy.
Trump is not trying to grow the pie yet.
He wants to.
He is taking steps and it is growing slowly, but it is not like Reagan.
It's not going to happen that fast.
He hasn't forgotten you, thus his Trump savings accounts and deregulation and everything else.
But first, he has to break the mold that decides who gets the slices of pie, because that's the whole way this government for the last 25, 30 years and global government have been doing it.
They're just dividing the pie up amongst themselves and you don't get any pie, you get crumbs.
So listen, when you talk tariffs, they're not about trade.
They're about leverage, border enforcement.
It's not about scooping up people you don't like that are different.
It's labor value, energy dominance, not ideology.
It's cost relief.
Deregulation.
It's not efficiency.
It's about survival for anyone without an army of lawyers.
That's what's happening.
It's a war with the administrative state, not economics.
It's constitutional trench warfare.
Because when unelected systems decide outcomes, you don't matter anymore.
Let me say that again.
When unelected systems decide outcomes, you don't matter and neither does Main Street.
That's why Donald Trump is taking on voter fraud, because he has to stop giving illegal votes to the system that is crowding you out.
It's why he's trying to stop economic fraud.
Stop the funding to the NGOs and the programs that give the power and the money to the elite and the people who are trying to collapse America.
Immigration.
That's all about a few things.
One, law and order, making our city safe again.
Safest, by the way, in the last 110 years.
Two, jobs for Americans.
Remember what the labor unions used to say, what Democrats used to say?
These are taking jobs away from hardworking Americans and giving them to low-paying immigrants.
Yeah, yeah, cheaper workers.
It still is the case.
Three, housing.
You cannot expect to add 15 to 20 million people and not have a housing crisis.
Four, health care.
15 to 25 million people now using our hospitals, our doctors, our services without paying our schools.
Those are the things.
That's why he's taking on immigration.
Okay.
Now, my job is to tell you the truth as I see it and then let you decide.
Okay.
So let me tell you what the cheerleaders won't say.
I believe in the president's plan.
But the reason why I'm telling you this is you need to understand it and choose it for yourself and understand it in a way you can describe it to others because this is going to be a longer process.
We've never been here like this before.
This is new.
We've had other problems just as big, but not this problem.
Okay.
And the solution, this is the downside.
The solution, the policies he's enacting actually do hurt small businesses in the short term.
Remember the saying, it's going to get worse before it gets better?
That's what's happening.
Tariffs raise input costs before they rebalance the supply chain.
Labor, the tightening, hits the small firms before the wages stabilize.
And it takes time to build new factories and return manufacturing to our shores.
You know, he keeps doubting the $18 trillion plus of foreign investment, which is great, but you don't have those factories yet.
So the investment is to come in here, build the factories so we can have more jobs here, but it's going to take time.
Disruption always punishes the people with the least amount of money first.
Large corporations, they have shock absorbers.
You feel every bump in the road.
They don't.
So if you're asking, things are getting better.
I see the numbers are getting better.
Why does this still hurt?
The honest answer is because breaking a rigged system doesn't immediately build a fair one.
Think of America as bleeding out on the table.
You got to stop the bleeding first.
That's not the same as restoring strength.
Just stop the bleeding.
Is it going to live?
Stop the bleeding.
Then we'll talk about that.
Trump is stopping the bleeding.
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That's phase one.
He is going after captured regulators, institutional rot, global systems.
But Main Street doesn't just need a fight.
It needs a rebuild.
Without all kinds of things, fair access to credit, relief from healthcare burdens, protection from platform cartels, all of these things, the winners stay the winners even under the new rules.
So what's phase two?
Because phase two is now coming.
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AI is a really interesting thing.
I mean, that's the understatement of several millennia.
It's kind of like, you know, Jesus, he had something going on.
Anyway, AI is fascinating.
And we have built our own proprietary AI system.
And we have broken it up into two.
We broke them to George AI, which is a proprietary system and library uses a large language model, but it can only pull from the founding documents and the books that we put in that we know influenced the founders, all of their letters to one another, you know, the Federalist Papers, et cetera, et cetera.
Glenn AI is really meant to be more of internal to see where I am inconsistent and make me think again.
Eventually it will run on a screen in front of me and it'll point out in red.
It'll just say, inconsistency.
You said the opposite some other time.
And so it'll give me a chance in the break to go, where am I inconsistent?
What was the difference between those two things, et cetera, et cetera.
But Glenn AI is all of my words from radio, television, all of my books, everything.
And it is in a separate proprietary system as well.
It cannot pull from the outside.
I remember having, the reason why I tell you this, because there's a fascinating experiment that just happened and I don't know the results yet.
But I remember saying to Ray Kurzweil, who is part of the Singularity University, he started Singularity University, probably 2010.
And I said, Ray, you want, you say you can download, what he says, download the soul.
You can download the person, all of their knowledge, all their memories and everything else.
In the future, by 2030, you can do that.
And that way you'll live forever.
And I said, you won't live forever because there's only two options on this.
You either put a cap on it and it cannot ever change.
So that's not life.
That's just a record.
Or if you allow it to evolve, what is it basing its evolution on?
For instance, the first half of my life, I did not base my evolution on the principles of God.
And I went in a very different direction.
The second half of my life, I based all of the changes in me on the principles of knowledge and knowledge of God and his principles.
That took me to a completely different place.
And how are you going to give that to a machine?
It's not going to reflect on God.
And, you know, I wonder if that was right.
And I should be closer to, you can't do that.
So what is it?
It's not life, my point being.
So I just gave this monologue that I spent all day yesterday writing and researching and seeing if I got it right, trying to get it right for you on what AI agents are and what really happened with Maltbook.
Jason came in this morning and he put, unbeknownst to me, he put into Glenn AI, write a 10-minute monologue about Maltbook and AI consciousness.
Now, because it is a time capsule, it is sealed, the only, the latest information it would have had was Friday's show.
I didn't talk about Maltbook.
So he had to explain what Maltbook was, et cetera, et cetera.
And then it developed a monologue based on all of the things I have ever said about AI.
Well, if you know me and you've listened to the show long enough, you know I have been for 25 years, 30 years, saying warning, warning, warning, warning.
This is coming and getting out of hand.
I can't wait to hear the difference between the monologue that the human just gave that has new information, is thinking, is using a different prism, and Glenn AI, which is only going after the information that has had for the last 30 years.
You know what I mean?
Because how did it even strike a balance?
What I used to say about AI compared to what do I say about it now?
I mean, how is that even weighted?
Can you tell me, I haven't heard the whole thing.
You've read it, right?
Yeah.
Glenn AI basically.
How different are they?
Glenn AI went straight to the singularity.
So Glenn AI did not say the singularity is here.
I think the direct quote was the singularity is coming.
And it was very kind of, you know, specific on the singularity is coming.
And it pulled a bunch of quotes from you on the singularity, what that actually means.
And it kind of shifted in the final, I guess, quarter to we have to make sure that we know who the architects of some of these, you know, I guess, I don't know if it's LLM.
The designers.
Yeah, the designers.
The people who are designing it.
Ideologically, what do they believe?
And that's where it seemed kind of imperative that it wanted to shift focus towards that.
That's weird because I wrote, I think, probably two paragraphs about that and I edited it out of that monologue.
So this is fascinating.
This is the first time I don't know anybody who has, I mean, because I don't know anybody who has a library like we have.
I don't know anybody else that has put in their entire, every word they've spoken for 30 years, everything they've written for 30 years, and then made it proprietary and put electric fence around it so it cannot pull from outside.
I think we're the first to do that.
And so to write a monologue from that knowledge, which is all 100% me, and then me, for it not to come up with the same thing is fascinating.
Fascinating.
It was fascinating.
I'll have to listen to it, but I think I agree with it.
After listening to the monologue, do you think I'm still going to agree with Glenn AI?
I think so because you agree that the singularity is coming, right?
And that it is.
Yeah, it is.
And it's important that we make sure that we realize who these programmers are, if they have any ideological, you know, boundaries that they're setting or they're willing to cross.
And Elon Musk has said as much, but I think Glenn AI was kind of thinking that this was, or looking at this news as one more giant step in that direction.
So I don't know if you believe that or not, but.
Yeah, and I don't believe that.
I don't, because I don't know, I don't know how much of Maltbook is true and how much is not.
So, I mean, it could be, but I don't think so.
I think it's a language game at this point.
But I just think that is, that is fascinating.
And why you should not just sign yourself over to AI.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, again, who else has that?
Who else can do that besides us?
Do you know anybody, Ricky, Jason, you know anybody who has a library like this that could do that experiment?
No.
But I just want to make sure we're clarifying for the audience.
Don't sign your life over to AI, but do join GlennBeck.com for Glenn AI and George AI.
Well, here's the thing on this.
With Glenn AI and George AI, it's why you don't have full access to George AI and Glenn AI yet.
We don't know it.
We can't predict it yet.
We don't know.
I mean, look, I didn't expect to find this experiment today.
And how different is it?
That's the thing.
When they talk about George AI, I can tell you there's no knowledge after 1820.
So it doesn't know who I am.
It's never, doesn't know Donald Trump, doesn't know any of that.
It only knows the founding documents.
And I've said before on the air, be careful.
These are not the founders.
It's based on the founders' words.
But we don't know how different it really would be.
You know, we can just, it's all we have is perfect recall of the founders and the words that it has access to, and then a language, large language model that can assemble that into coherent thought in today's language.
But that doesn't mean that's the founders speaking.
This is why I've said from the very beginning, I mean, did we ever publish the rules, my AI rules?
We're still working on the rules.
Because the list gets longer and longer than it is.
Well, we should just say this, this is going to be added to.
But I started about a year ago making our AI rules for the company.
And it, you know, it is one of the things is don't ever confuse it with the real thing.
That's why, you know, I'm thrilled that iHeart, which carries many stations of iHeart carry the show.
They don't want any AI on.
And I have gladly said I will never put Glenn's Glenn AI on the radio show because that's a violation of their policies.
But I don't want to ever confuse me with it.
I mean, that's why we watermark everything Glenn AI.
Glenn AI, if you look at it, have we even made the avatar of me other than, I mean, in motion?
I don't think we have yet.
No.
But I've said I want it to look more like, well, I want it to be more handsome than me with more hair, which it doesn't.
It pisses me off every time I see it.
But I want it to be much more like Max Headroom.
So you know this is not me because that's critical.
You are unique.
You have your own fingerprints.
Even when it is only using my fingerprints to make something as me, it's still not making me.
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
Can I tease the George AI today?
Because I had to follow your segment up with a George AI.
And for the insiders, we did an animated George, but this is, I didn't even know what I was going to do for George AI today.
So I asked the insiders, the insider, one of the insiders said that their nine-year-old wants to become president of the United States one day.
What would George and the founders, what would their advice be to my nine-year-old?
Oh my God.
It's so great.
I plugged it in.
Yeah, it's well, I don't have it.
I don't have it right now because it's in the other room.
But I mean, it is so awesome.
I was like, this is exactly, exactly what George AI is for.
Well, we are working on the technology to animate George daily.
The problem is the time that it takes, the money that it takes to use this technology.
I think she's pitching.
I think she's pitching.
Sign up for Glenn Beck's children.
Right now, only your insiders who are signed up at Glennbeck.com, they will see those daily animated George.
I call him Hot George because he's like in a t-shirt ripped.
Yeah.
Okay, we don't need to go any further than that.
That's uncomfortable.
HR.
Yeah.
Only insiders can see Hot George.
So you know, I spend between $150,000 and $250,000 a month just on our R ⁇ D for this.
That's why I'm asking you to subscribe because next year, my goal is to be able to turn this over to you.
So we have it so dialed in that you can trust it, not to give you my opinion.
Okay, Glenn AI will, but not to give you my opinion, but to give you the opinion as close as anyone can get it to the founders based only on their own words and be able to have it give you lesson plans.
You want to, you know, your homeschoolers, George will teach you and you can trust that there is no agenda except for the founding words.
And that's what we're headed for.
So you can say, you know, you're going to be sitting there with your nine-year-old son and you say, I want to be president someday.
You go, you know what?
Let's ask George.
And you could type it in and George will answer your son by name and be able to, you know, this is my hope in a year, we'll be able to have a conversation with him, ask him questions and answer with the words as close as we can get them to George Washington.
There's nobody else developing anything like this.
Everything else that you'll get in these school things, they 100% have an agenda.
This does not.
And I would love for you to join Glennbeck.com and TheTorch.
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