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July 11, 2025 - The Glenn Beck Program
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Best of the Program | 7/11/25

John Brennan and Jason Buttrill expose alleged deep state crimes, including torture advocacy and the expiring statute of limitations on lies regarding the Steele dossier. The host critiques AI's potential to erode critical thinking while praising films like F1 for avoiding woke narratives. He condemns RCMP rhetoric linking traditional gender values to extremism and attacks pediatric leaders for sowing vaccine doubt through forced mandates, arguing these government actions have catastrophically eroded public trust in institutions. [Automatically generated summary]

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And what does this mean for our future?
Also, will the former CIA director John Brennan be indicted for lying to Congress and pushing the fake Russia collusion story?
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By the way, I was watching a video from Microsoft.
And you know how I told you yesterday they're going to be making new compounds?
You know, Grok4 is going to be able to make new compounds, make new chemicals, things that we never even thought of, new alloys.
Well, apparently, I missed this.
A friend of mine sent me this video and said, hey, Glenn, it's already happening at Microsoft.
Microsoft at one of their big unveiling parties, they showed a new tool that they're using to come up with new compounds and new alloys and everything else.
And they showed the process and you just type it in, blah, blah, blah.
And they were looking for a new coolant to be able to spend high-speed computers in because it's just too hot, takes too much energy to keep them cool, blah, blah, blah.
But the problem is the coolant is so bad for the environment.
And so they went in and they used their new quantum computer and they typed in and said, hey, you know, can you come up with something?
And they explained exactly what they were looking for.
And it came up with a new coolant and said, combine these things together and it will not be bad for the environment and it'll keep everything cool.
So what they did is they just did that.
They didn't argue with it or anything.
They just did what the computer said and then poured it into what looks like a giant fish tank and then dropped a computer into it with no fans, nothing.
And it stayed perfectly cool without any fans or anything trying to keep it cool.
Just a new chemical compound that they threw together through quantum computing.
A problem they couldn't solve before.
How do we keep it cool?
Now they found it.
I mean, it's already there.
I mean, I think we are in for, you know, I don't know if I told you this yesterday, Stu, as I was doing some more research.
No, because you left yesterday up here.
We didn't have a chance to talk, but I was doing more research on, you know, AI.
And it is going so far ahead, so fast, that just two days ago, I thought we were going to be really far ahead of the game on things, and we still are going to be way ahead of the game.
However, it's happening at such a rapid speed that I'm not sure if when we launch, it's going to be the latest, greatest.
You know what I mean?
It's moving so rapidly now.
And the idea that I have for this project that I'm working on that will be, I'll tell you about it here in a couple of months, but it is the idea is to get you ready for a time when nothing makes sense.
And this is just to educate you, yourself, your family on principles and civic duties and the Constitution.
So you can be strong in the core.
We were working on it last night on finding ways to be able to figure out, is that a deep fake or is this real?
We want to provide you with the tools to be able to know the truth and then know them and learn them inside of yourself.
And I'm looking at what is on the horizon and I'm thinking, we being ahead, we may be behind by January.
And anybody who's not working on anything with AI, and I mean not seriously working on anything with AI, your company, you are going to find yourself out of business soon.
It is just, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
You have to pay attention to what is going on with AI and follow it and use it wisely.
Use it with wisdom.
Don't just go for the answer, the quick answer.
Go to have it teach you so you can then have wisdom because it's not really going to have wisdom.
At least you don't know who's programming the wisdom behind it.
And that is the real, that's the real problem.
Yeah.
But anyway.
Isn't it true, Glenn, that like I'm sure in all of your reading and studying on this, you've thought about this quite a bit, but it's like, isn't there, isn't there like a weird thing with like an end date of human knowledge in a way?
Where like if you have people who forever grow up, learn things, understand them, progress, they're building the infrastructure of thought, right?
Like you're advancing thought, you're creating things, you're understanding things, you're going forward.
And then at some point, if there's not human beings doing that because they're going to AI for everything, that process doesn't occur.
And that's the process that trained AI.
So it's the end of the expert class.
Why go to school?
Now, there's lots of reasons to go to school that go beyond just being the smartest person on the planet.
But why go to school to learn any particular skill?
Why go to be an expert?
Why go and be the expert on history?
What, so you can write books that nobody's going to read?
Why be the expert that everybody looks to when you have just a fraction of the knowledge that Grok will have?
I know I'm going to get a better answer from Grok than from you.
So it is the end of the expert class, which is, in some ways, makes me very happy.
However, be careful because these AI systems will give you one answer.
Like Google right now gives you page after page after page of answers and everybody just goes to the top, but at least the other answers are there.
This will give you one answer and people will just take that as the gospel.
And, you know, the idea is this should free you up to do a bunch of other things.
And I know in my case, and, you know, you and I have been working on it this week, in our case, it is going to free us up to do so much more.
And it will speed up the process of education and everything else.
And it will be really, really good for a while.
And then I think, you know, there's going to be the vast majority that are just going to be lazy on it.
And it's going to watch you as much as you're watching it.
And then what happens?
Then what are you worth?
Why did you go to school?
You think people are upset that they can't get jobs now?
Give it two years.
When you go to school and you pay all this money, I'm telling you, college is damn near a total waste of money, especially the kind of education that you're getting because you're not taught critical thinking.
The only thing that should be taught now is how to think, how to think.
But what they're doing is they're telling you what to think.
Well, I can get that from Grok eventually.
I'll get that from ChatGPT eventually.
You know, you have to be taught how to think because we're churning out these.
I mean, most of our problems are caused because nobody knows how to think.
Nobody's using critical thinking.
Nobody's asking critical questions.
You're not being taught that.
Are you?
Yeah, because that's the problem.
This is one of the issues I've noticed with AI and the way the average person uses it.
It's not even that you ask it a question and it gives you one answer, right?
Because as you point out, that's an obvious problem because whoever's putting, you know, whoever's programming this, whoever's garbage in, garbage out, if that one answer is bad, then everyone's just getting this one bad answer.
But what I've noticed about people that in my life and friends and family who use this is they ask the questions in like a leading way.
And what AI is really, really good at is coming up with some answer that will support the thing you're asking it.
Like if I say like, you know, give me a good case as to why Glenn Beck is the next fascist dictator of the United States.
There's not a good case to that.
There's no argument.
May I tell you how it would answer you?
Because this will make your point because I've seen it over and over and over again.
Wow.
Now that's getting to the heart of the question.
Right.
Yeah.
It gives you, it compliments you.
It glazes you before it gives you an answer that makes no sense.
Yes.
But it's smart enough to come up with an argument to support the thing that you want.
So like, you know, like if you go on there and like, let's say you're a believer in some supplement, right, that has a questionable health benefit, right?
If you go on there and you say, hey, my friend says, you know, I don't know, tree bark won't make you cure cancer.
Give me an argument.
You know, what's the best argument that it can?
And it will give you the best argument that it can cure cancer, whatever that is.
It'll come up with some justification.
And like the way I use it, and I think the way you use it, Glenn, is the complete opposite of that.
Give me the best argument against this thing that I want to believe, right?
Like a lot of times I use it as like a devil's advocate.
Well, am I not thinking this through fully?
And that is really beneficial because it'll bring up facts that you might not know or some angle you haven't thought of that will help strengthen your argument or maybe change it.
But like that's not how I think the average person uses it.
Let me show you this.
This is what we're churning out.
And here's what happens when you don't know how to think anymore and you haven't questioned, you know, really, you know, if you're a lawyer and you haven't questioned enough to really absolutely understand what the law even means.
I'm going to play something.
This is from 2016.
It is in the U.S. Court of Appeals, the Ninth Circuit, and they're questioning a child protective services lawyer about how her client, the social worker, could possibly think that perjury is acceptable.
Now listen to this.
Cut 35, please.
A person in the shoes of your clients possibly believe that it was appropriate to use perjury and false evidence in order to impair somebody's liberty, interest in the continued care, custody, and control of that person's children.
How could they possibly not be on notice that you can't do that?
I understand the argument.
How could that possibly be?
I understand the argument that it seems to be common sense and our ethical.
It's more than common sense.
It's statutes that prohibit perjury and submission of false evidence in court cases.
State statutes.
Are you telling me that a person in your client's shoes couldn't understand you can't commit perjury in a court proceeding in order to take somebody's children away?
Of course not, Your Honor.
Of course not.
Isn't the case over then?
And the case is over.
Because.
Kostanich is distinguishable in my view.
Kostanich deals with a secondary foster care.
That's a whole strange thing.
It's not a person's real child.
Even if Kostanich is distinguished.
And guardian is the same thing.
Even if Kostanich is distinguishable, there is Thus far, we have not been presented with any clearly established right that tells us that what our clients did, which is remove the children pursuant to a court order.
No, but what they're accused of doing and what the issue is here is committing perjury in a court to take away someone's children.
And you just said that's obviously not okay to do.
According to our moral compass and our ethical guidelines, but what we're here to decide is the constitutionality of it and we look to the courts.
You mean due process is somehow consistent with a government official introducing perjured testimony and false.
How is that consistent?
I mean, I hate to get pumped up about this, but I'm just staggered by the claim that people in the shoes of your clients wouldn't be on notice that you can't use perjury and false evidence to take away somebody's children.
That, to me, is mind-boggling.
In criminal proceedings, we know this to be true because that...
No, no, criminal proceedings, it's a court proceeding with a liberty interest, a fundamental liberty interest at stake.
And on the reverse side, the state also...
And you're telling us that these officials who do this all the time couldn't be on notice that you can't commit perjury and put in false evidence.
All this and more on the next episode of America's Worst Lawyers.
But that is the thinking now.
That is what our schools are churning out.
Well, that is a construct.
We're here to decide if that construct even really exists other than in paper.
And look at how many times have we seen people commit perjury in front of Congress?
And it doesn't matter anymore.
This is what our education system is pumping out right now.
And it's only going to get worse unless you prepare right now and you start preparing your kids and educating them on actual truth.
There is universal eternal truths.
Lying is against all eternal truths.
Lying to take away someone's children, if that attorney knew that that was happening, that attorney should be in jail.
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Let's bring in Jason Buttrill, who is our chief researcher on the program.
You know, I'm reading a lot about John Brennan, and, you know, I think everybody knows he's a bad guy.
Well, everybody but MSNBC and CNN.
They know he's a bad guy.
But, you know, Jason, as I was starting to really refresh my memory and look into Brennan as where it looks like maybe the Department of Justice is going to take him on and maybe prosecute him for some pretty bad perjury.
I started looking into him and I didn't realize I had completely forgotten.
He was the guy who was the main guy that was pushing for torture during the war.
I mean, he couldn't torture enough people.
And then he actually had a little group that would meet with the president and they would develop the kill list.
Do you remember, Stu, talking about the kill list that Obama was doing, you know, every week?
They develop a kill list.
And everybody's like, what do you mean a kill list?
Who's on the kill list?
It was John Brennan that was doing all of that stuff.
He's a really, really dark dude.
And, you know, hopefully we'll actually send him to jail for the things that he allegedly has done, besides, you know, developing the kill list.
Jason, welcome to the program.
Hey, thanks, Glenn.
I don't, you know, it depends on, I don't know.
John Brennan has been one of the most slippery.
I don't know how to describe him, whether it's like bond villains or actually maybe it's more accurate to call him like a Batman villain.
Because like you remember like in Batman, you know, if like the Joker is like connected to the main in that comic or cartoon or if it's the penguin, you know that at the end of the comic, they're going to get away.
You're just going to see them in a slide, you know, all of a sudden in a page where they just slip away because they can't be caught.
They have to live again, you know, to be the villain in another comic book.
That's kind of jumping.
Yeah, I know.
And we are playing the role of a bond villain as well when it comes to justice.
Our DOJ is like, oh, and we have sharks that are going to eat you.
We've strapped you to this table, but they are going to start with your shoestrings, and then we will leave.
But before you know it, you'll be dead in the belly of a shark.
And you're like, they're not going to eat the shark.
They're not going to kill them.
Just shoot him in the head.
What are you doing?
Stop with a shark thing.
That's what our DOJ is like.
They just, these guys just get away with murder.
Yeah, as you point out, with Brennan, it goes way, way back, even before he was confirmed as CIA director.
You know, he was one of the, as you outlined, he was one of the ones that were like right at the center of the enhanced interrogation or torture controversy.
He always said, oh, hey, I was not in the enhanced interrogation techniques, air quoted, program, but he was one of the guys that was defending transferring some of the suspects to countries where the rules are a lot less strict than they are here in the United States.
You can employ some of these.
Yeah, but it goes beyond that.
He actually, he withdrew his name from being in contention to be CIA director because of this.
But like any Batman villain or bond villain, he decides to run again later in 2013 and he's confirmed by a massive amount.
He just keeps on slipping through.
Well, how does he want the ones?
Let me ask you, how did you think he gets this power?
Because he just, he does keep slipping through.
And, you know, if I remember right, it was Diane Feinstein that actually came at him and said, you and the CIA are spying on the committee in the Senate.
And they were investigating the torture or enhanced interrogation.
And he was knee-deep, maybe neck-deep in that.
And he said, we're not spying.
The CIA would never do that.
It's just unthinkable.
Well, it turns out, yes, they were spying.
And then they never pushed for any kind of penalty on him.
He said, well, I'm going to find out who did this, and then they're going to pay.
Nobody paid.
Nobody, nothing.
Does he have stuff on members of the Senate and the House?
Is that what's happening here?
How does he keep getting away with this?
Understanding John Brennan, in my opinion, is understanding how the deep state operates.
That example that you just put out there with the Senate, you know, spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, deny, deny, deny.
Later, it comes out that Glenn, five CIA employees, five, improperly accessed Senate computers, five.
And then finally, after a while, like months later, he's apologizing to the Senate Intelligence Committee, you know, all but admitting this happened, but no resignations, no prosecutions.
This goes on and on and on.
Hang on.
And then on that same case, five years later, he writes his, you know, his biography, and he talks about how none of that happened.
So he admits it.
First, he denies it.
Then he's caught.
Then he admits it.
He says, I'm going to take care of it.
Nothing happens.
Time goes by.
And then he writes a book and he's like, all of that, none of that happened.
That was all wrong.
This guy is just a bond villain.
It really is.
And it's the same with the Steele dossier, you know, denying it in front of Congress.
And then, you know, later now that we're coming out saying, oh, well, now we can see that he totally was just, it appears like he was just completely lying.
Now we're trying to figure out what he told John Durham because maybe they can get him for saying the same statements to John Durham.
If they can, then maybe we can go after him.
But I really don't know.
I don't know if the audience really wants to hear this right now, but I don't know if it'll make a difference.
This is how the deep state operates.
And to understand it and to understand John Brennan, you understand that the executive does not really control deep state apparatuses.
That's not how it works.
You have multiple people and people that were under John Brennan and the CIA are still there.
They're still there.
The deep state controls the deep state apparatus, not the executive, not Congress, none of them.
It is these shady individuals that continue to get away with things.
We catch them in lies.
It never really matters.
I think that if we could actually get some justice on this, that John Brennan can actually get outed publicly like he has in the past, but this time something actually happened, then I think that would be a huge step forward in getting rid of some of these people that just linger and secretly pull strings while we're demanding justice.
So tell me what happened with the ICA, the new report out about the intelligence community assessment.
What is this story all about?
Yeah, it's a tradecraft.
It's a CIA tradecraft review, and it looks through...
What does that mean, a tradecraft review?
It's kind of a sexy way of just saying, how did we operate from this time to this time period?
And it points out how things like the state, it pointed out in part of it, how things like the Steele dossier ended up getting included into the whole Russiate scandal.
And it looks very, very clear that Unverified intelligence should not have gotten as far as the president's desk.
It should not have done it.
And even if it had, then it should have been, you know, heavily caveatted, showing that this is just opposition research bullcrap.
Well, it didn't.
And if you look at it very, very specifically, it shows that if you are, let's say, a bond villain or a Batman villain and you really, really want this damaging information that's just opposition research to somehow make it into the halls of the White House.
And then knowing that that's going to get leaked down to the media, the CIA has perfected this kind of operation.
They know exactly what they're doing.
Who would be responsible for doing it?
Why would they be doing it?
And it would be for election interference.
And then that's allegedly what John Brennan was actually doing.
That's what it looks like he was doing.
So now we've even got the intelligence community's assessment showing that this is probably what happened with that information and with now being able to go back to people like John Durham or looking at exactly what statements were made to him so that we can fit them into the statue of limitations or before it runs out.
Which is in the middle of August, which really pisses me off.
It's another thing like the, you know, the debt ceiling.
Oh, we, you know, we've had all these years to fix it, but now we've got to fix it tonight.
And then it's never fixed.
I mean, I'm telling you, this is not going to be good.
You know, this Epstein thing is not going to go away.
It's just not going to go away.
And I'm sorry, but I think the president is on the wrong side on this.
And I'm not assigning any kind of reason for it, but he wants it just to go away.
And I have my belief.
I expressed them yesterday.
It's about Intel again.
But you can't keep stacking these things up.
You just can't.
John Brennan is a known bad guy, Rushagate.
You would think that Donald Trump would be all over this because it affected his life so much.
This guy is a very, very, very bad guy, and both sides of the aisle know it.
And for some reason, nobody can ever do anything about John Brennan.
He's got to be investigated and prosecuted if that's where the evidence leads.
But you can't just walk away.
If the statue of limitations runs out on this guy, I think you got another chink in the armor.
A big one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And not just him.
I mean, I would go a lot further and say, who are the people that were directly underneath him?
Who are his subordinates?
Who are their subordinates?
How many of them had knowledge of this?
Because, you know, what we're really talking about is, you know, this is how the deep state operates.
This is how things happen, you know, outside, you know, the wishes of the president, you know, the executive, or even Congress.
This is how, you know, this is how outside, this is how justice and how operations work, you know, from people that are not elected, people that we did not give a mandate to.
This is how this operates.
You have to root out every single one of them, identify them, have them stand in front of justice and see if we can just finally start to whittle this thing away.
If we do not, then the future does not look great for what we want for this country.
Oh, it's everywhere.
You know, Kevin O'Connor, he's the White House physician for Biden.
The testimony that he gave, well, fine, you know, give him immunity.
Give him immunity.
I don't want to know about, you know, the private conversations, you know, about his health, although I think that is really important.
We're talking about the president of the United States.
He's not just a private citizen.
He's property.
You know, the president can't say if the Secret Service says, sir, you're not going in that room.
The president no longer has the right to say, I'm going in that room.
Sorry.
While you're president, it's almost as if you're property of the United States of America and you don't have control over your own person in many ways.
I'm sorry, but the physician client or physician patient confidentiality, I'm not sure that exists when you're president of the United States.
But there's no reason why you shouldn't give this guy immunity and then say, okay, who said what?
Were you ever told to lie?
I'm not sure you're going to get the truth out of this guy because he is a Biden guy through and through.
But people should start going to jail on that.
I'm so sick and tired of these investigations that start to show promise and then nothing happens.
Nothing.
It's been 20 years of investigations and no one goes to jail.
It's been 20 years of riots on the streets, people burning cities down, people looting stores, destroying our economy, destroying the safety in our city, and no one goes to jail.
President Trump has got to start sending some big, big messages, and he is on so many fronts, but this one cannot escape his view.
No One Goes to Jail 00:05:36
He's got to be on this one.
All right, Jason, thank you very much.
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
All right, let me go through some of the things.
First of all, Stu, what do you think of the movie Superman?
Is it worth trying or should we wait until next week?
I mean, I have no reason to rush out and see it beforehand.
I have seen a decent amount of reviews on it, and it feels from regular people.
From regular people, not as much.
I would say more of like more sane critics.
You know, like, for example, I saw a bunch of posts yesterday from a friend of ours, Giancarlo Sopo.
We haven't talked to him in a while, but he's been doing some movie reviews as part of his writing.
And he was like, yeah, it wasn't this woke nightmare that everyone's saying it might be.
Like, he was...
I mean, is that sabotage?
Was somebody trying to sabotage this movie?
You know, because, I mean, it's like they were promoting it like it was Snow White all over again.
Yeah.
Did you not learn this lesson, Hollywood?
Nobody wants to hear that from you.
I don't know if it was, I mean, there was, it's interesting.
I don't know if it was some intentional thing they did.
Like, you know, was it?
Right.
Or.
Or was it just an actor going way off script?
And it really started with the director, right?
Wasn't it James Gunn with the first segment where he was saying, hey, this is politics.
It is a political film.
It's about a guy who's an immigrant and comes here from another place.
And of course it's political.
That was the first thing I heard.
And you'd think of anyone who would know to be careful about how you phrase things, it would be James Gunn, who was basically canceled earlier in his career for making very offensive jokes on Twitter and lost the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise, at least for a time.
And you'd think just PB, let's make sure this is about the movie and we're not doing anything that's going to ruin the promotion of this.
Then since then, there have been, I think his brothers said something.
Other people involved in the movie have said something.
There was also what turned out to be a false internet rumor that was going around saying that they had changed the truth, justice, in the American way to truth, just in the human way, which apparently is not true.
Well, remember, the last time they did Superman, they already had changed that.
It was just truth and justice.
There was no American way.
Right.
I think it's back to the American way now?
That would be great.
Yeah.
You know, I've seen some stuff about what happens in the movie.
Certainly seems like Superman likes America in the movie from what I've heard.
So that sounds good.
So, I mean, I'm not a fan of these movies.
I'm not a fan of superhero movies.
I don't really care, honestly.
But it is, from what I've heard, it's not a great movie, but it's also not a woke paradise either.
Did you see F1?
I haven't yet.
Is that really good?
Oh.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
I really want to see it.
Oh, you know what?
We should try to go see it next week together.
Let's go see it in IMAX.
Oh, yeah.
It is, is.
It is.
It's remarkable.
It feels like you are actually driving the car at times.
One of the drivers, who's that kid that's driving not for Mercedes now, but I can't remember.
But he said, it is the closest thing to actually driving in an F1 race.
And it's a great storyline.
It's one of those, you know, you root for the underdog.
You know, Brad Pitt is completely, his character is completely likable.
You just really, and it's a good message, too.
I mean, it's not a message movie, but it's a good message in it as well.
And it's just really good.
If you liked Ford versus Ferrari, you're going to love this movie.
I'm really into race car movies.
And I think this is the best race car movie I've ever seen.
Really?
It's really good.
Yeah, it's really good.
Wow.
It's really, good.
Made $120 million so far in theaters.
Did much better internationally than most American releases.
180 million.
Americans are more into NASCAR than F1.
Yeah, F1.
It's funny because, you know, as you know, Glenn, I like sports.
I watch a lot of sports.
I take in a lot of sports content.
I have less knowledge about F1 than you do about almost any sport.
Like, I don't know anything about it.
Like, I didn't watch the documentaries.
That seems to be the real reason, though, why there's this increased documentary.
Yeah, they're good.
They're great.
That series is really good.
Yeah.
Really good.
And you really start to understand.
You're like, holy cow.
And when you understand these cars and how precise they are, I mean, it's really, really nuts.
I'd love to go over to Laman is at F1, isn't it now?
Yeah.
Isn't it?
You don't know.
What am I asking?
I really don't know.
I have no idea.
I won't be like asking me a sports question about boxing or baseball.
I won't be like you try to make some complicated analogy involving politics and F1 right now.
The Cost of Asbestos Propaganda 00:03:54
I won't even attempt it because I know I don't know anything about it.
So this is a lesson for you, Glenn.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, no, I mean, I think I've been pretty good on my analogies.
I wasn't so good.
I wasn't so good.
And I'm, yeah, I've improved.
It's not good, but I have improved.
Now, you've gone from like, you know, why?
Because I don't give up.
I keep trying, Stu.
I'm not like you.
I'm not a quitter.
I keep trying.
I mean, ask Beto Rourke.
Sometimes it's worth giving up.
You know, sometimes it's the right decision.
Yeah.
I saw something, a trailer for Lucky Larry's preposterous plan by Timeline Junkie Films.
And I'm not sure if this was done by AI or not.
It is such evil propaganda, but it is, I mean, it's evil because I think it's going to be extraordinarily effective.
Look at the, watch this trailer, Stu.
Watch this.
$1.5 billion.
Well, now that's just insane.
These are talking about the budget.
The vultures are trying to pluck my eyes out.
Have you talked to Rudy yet?
Rudy was the one who told me.
That's the price.
I mean, what do you want me to say?
It's 1.5.
It's just what it is.
This is just, when big things move, all parties have to be mutually, you know.
Well, it goes without saying somebody is incredibly miffed.
You made that.
Miffed?
My guys told me 150 million tops.
If I can't get that out of those walls for less than 1.5 billion, I'm Fakakta.
You understand?
I never should have listened to you.
He never told you to buy two towers of Babel filled with asbestos.
Nothing in New York real estate is that easy.
You weren't buying a telling.
I don't have 1.5.
I need that out of the walls or I need those buildings going.
I told you it's never going to happen.
The demolition will probably cost more than it did to build the thing.
See?
Fukakta.
At this point, it costs less to get someone to fly planes into the building and collect the insurance.
For that, you'd need terrorism insurance.
I'll call you back.
Deborah.
And right here, sir.
Oh, I need you to find out what kind of terrorism insurance we've got on those pieces towers.
Tom, this thing is, this is, I mean, look how well done that is.
And that would appeal to people like my son who are young and, you know, it's just a different way of doing a documentary.
If this is AI, it's even more frightening because that can be done by anybody now with any crazy idea.
I think almost affect AI, right?
I mean, I think.
Right.
I thought for sure it was.
Yeah.
It certainly seems like it's AI.
Yeah.
But again, and the point of that, it was a little hard to understand, but basically they're, you know, it's this, they're saying 9-11 was not real and, you know, it was an inside job.
No, they said it was real.
It was, it was because of an inside job because there was asbestos in the walls of the World Trade Center.
And so the owner was like, I'm not going to be able to afford this.
This is crazy.
It's going to cost us more than the buildings themselves.
You know, let's fly buildings in and collect insurance.
I mean, it's really easy.
Come on, like these theories.
It was because he had asbestos.
He was like so concerned about the asbestos in the wall that he killed thousands of people.
Like it's so, everyone, it's so easy to apply these terrible motivations to other people, isn't it?
It's so easy to do.
It's just like you just, well, what if they're the worst person and all they want to do is kill everyone all the time?
It makes every little part of the to explain the world so much easier.
It really does, except you have to forget about who did blow up the World Trade Centers.
Why Conspiracy Theories Fuel Extremism 00:05:41
You know what I mean?
Yes.
When you look at the World Trade Center, and who was that?
That was Osama bin Laden.
And that group, not him per se, but those people are still trying to destroy us.
And you're focused on this, really?
I mean, it is the propaganda that is now out and against America is really overwhelming.
I mean, how do you grow up today and actually believe in America?
How do you do that?
You have to find a place that will actually give you the truth about it.
And that's really, really hard.
You know, I know it's one of the things you're very highly concerned with right now and is one of the reasons why you're building what you're building.
I mean, if you can't find this information and where like when the people who are highly entertaining and engaging people are giving it to you in formats like that or on the conspiracy sort of side or just the typical Hollywood anti-American slop that they churn out, man, it's an uphill battle.
And you wonder why.
What was that chart we did that poll the other day where since basically the mid-2010s, Democrats have gone from 80% being proud to be American to 36?
Basically, I mean, that doesn't happen just naturally.
No.
You don't fall like that naturally.
There's no way.
I mean, that's carefully groomed.
You've been carefully groomed.
And it's getting to the point.
Listen to this.
It's cut, I think it's 11 from Canada, where the Royal Canadian Mounted Police staff sergeant says in an interview with Canadian News Channel that someone who believed in gender, in equal gender rights, but then veers towards traditional values.
Well, listen to what she says.
What they're saying on a subject, like becoming more extremist.
Like, and if someone you know was very believed in equal gender rights, but all of a sudden are leaning towards like traditional values, and that might be a sign that they're becoming more extremist.
More extremist.
This is this is a cop.
This is, I mean, this is a spokesperson for the Royal Mounted Police.
And you're becoming extremist if you're starting to go, you know what?
I think the traditional values, that is just a total turning of everything upside down.
Now listen to the president of the American Academy of Pediatrics on CNN.
Listen to this, CUT 12.
For us, this isn't just about COVID vaccine.
This is sowing doubt in families' minds about all the vaccines and vaccine delivery.
A colleague of mine told me the other day that a patient shared with her, I trust you, but I no longer trust vaccines.
And we need our leaders and everyone who has any interest in public health to be giving a clear message that vaccines are safe and it is how we protect our communities.
We need to get everyone making sure that they're confidently recommending patients get vaccinated as a way to protect their health and their community's health.
Now listen to that.
Listen to that.
Without addressing why people, they're blaming it on RFK.
People have been anti-vaxxers for a very long time.
I don't know.
That's not new.
Okay.
Why did suddenly everybody go, vaccines are bad and I don't trust the vaccine and I don't trust the vaccine companies and I don't trust my doctors per se or the federal government to tell me what to put into my body because they just forced you to put in a vaccine and they lied about it.
And then none of them came out and said, hey, you know what?
We're really sorry.
We just, we didn't know this, you know, and we're going to go put those people in jail or we're going to make sure those people aren't in charge of any of the vaccine stuff.
So they deny the very facts that led people to go, I don't trust any of you guys anymore.
And what do they say?
We just need more propaganda.
We just need people to be very, we need to shut people like RFK up and we need people just to toe the party line and everybody say no vaccines are good.
I think vaccines are great.
I think vaccines have saved millions of people, but I don't trust the vaccine.
I don't trust the people who are making them.
I'm not going to trust them blindly.
You know, before it was like, hey, you know, this has got some side effects.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now you come up with something new.
No, I'd like to see that trial.
I'd like to really dig into that now.
And it's not because I don't trust vaccines.
I don't trust the people who are making them and I don't trust the people that are pushing them.
I think it's healthy to be a little skeptical.
But what are the people pushing all this stuff doing?
They're saying, you can't be skeptical.
Well, that's not going to help on trust.
Fix the problem that caused most of that.
And that is you forced people to take something that you lied about.
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