Glenn Beck and Jeremiah Johnson dissect the Shroud of Turin, citing 1978 STERP findings on absent pigment, rare AB blood type, and 372 lacerations that defy modern explanation despite flawed 1988 radiocarbon dating. The conversation pivots to Jason Whitlock's analysis of Sean 'Diddy' Combs allegations as a symptom of nihilism driven by firms like BlackRock, while also addressing George Soros's $1M grants to the Almaisan Center for Human Rights in Gaza and Oakland's $1,100 fine against 102-year-old Victor Silva Sr. Ultimately, the episode critiques government overreach and calls for a constitutional revival against corrupt political elites. [Automatically generated summary]
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He is a reporter for the Washington Examiner.
He's an investigative reporter, and he has found some new information on just how evil George Soros really is.
Welcome, Gabe.
How are you?
Glad and good to be with you.
Thank you very much.
Okay, so tell me what you found and what tipped you off.
Yeah, we found that the George Soros Dark Money Left Wing Grant Making Network over the last decade has granted at least a million dollars to an organization that is based in the Gaza Strip that shares close ties to several U.S.-designated terrorist organizations, namely Hamas, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and also Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
To many of your listeners, this may not necessarily come as a big surprise, given they're probably familiar with mega donor Soros' grants to pretty extremist organizations over the last, for a very long time.
But this is particularly notable because this organization, Almaisan Center for Human Rights, which claims to be a human rights organization, though some of its board members actually were formerly leaders for Hamas and are actually attended various events with the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine.
This group is calling and exerting pressure on the United Nations to take aim at Israel after the October 7th terrorist attack.
And so our story today takes a really deep look at all that significant funding over the years.
You know, can I ask you, there are some countries in the world that have banned George Soros and named him an enemy of the state.
He has done so much damage to countries all around the world.
And in this one in particular, what would it ever take for people not just not to ban him, but at least have a kind of universal recognition that the guy Is not laying out healthy paths for democracies.
Yeah, for a very long time, right, Glenn, the political left has framed it in these terms where if you have the gall to call out some of these very controversial funding from Soros, apparently you're anti-Semitic.
And I think that our reporting and various stories really just debunk this ridiculous myth.
I mean, George Soros is funding organizations that share close ties to violent terrorist factions.
When we reached out to his organization, they did not seem at all concerned about it.
In fact, his spokesman, a former State Department spokesman for Barack Obama, Jonathan Kaplan, he had said that their organization is proud, quote-unquote, proud to have made that funding.
They also defended the funding.
They said it is legal given that the organization is not a U.S.-designated terror group.
We spoke to a terrorism financing expert at the Zachwar Legal Institute and others who would like to see there be stricter laws surrounding terror-length charities like the one that they funded, getting U.S. money to begin with.
And the government, nobody's looking into this.
Nobody seems to care.
And how much damage has this done to our relationship with Israel and to how much positive has this done now to Gaza and Palestinians?
Look, I mean, yeah, we're not aware of whether or not the U.S. government is looking into this funding.
It's something that some Republican lawmakers that we spoke to would desperately like to see done.
They're not really banking on the IRS, one of those dormant federal agencies that doesn't really has a reputation of not really doing all that much.
But look, I think this is the sort of funding that we want to make sure people are aware of as they look at kind of some of the more influential funders across our country and they're able to better understand kind of how Soros, where he moves his money.
And in this case, it's to a group that we found through social media posts and archive social media posts, including, by the way, I would highlight, there are individuals at this organization that George Soros funded that have literally written articles on the official website of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a terrorist faction that participated in the October 7th terrorist attack.
I mean, it couldn't be more direct, and we just really want to make sure people can take a look at that.
Gabe, we've seen a real public shift over the past few months where the government now, you know, I mean, we're abstaining from votes in the UN Security Council.
How much do we have any idea how much of the funding, you know, this funding leads behind the scenes to these changes in positions?
Yeah, good question.
I mean, so the grants between from the Open Society Foundation, they're earmarked, quote, to monitor and document violations against Palestinians and pursue accountability for abuses, as well as, quote, human rights and international humanitarian law violations in the Gaza Strip.
Now, to be clear, in the eyes of this organization, humanitarian law violations are literally just the idea of Israel existing.
And they make that pretty clear if you look at their website.
So what we can say, definitely, is that large amounts of money are going from the U.S.-based, two U.S.-based Soros-Tied foundations, actually the only U.S. foundations that we found that give money to this organization.
And it comes as this group is going on the floor of the United Nations and essentially accusing Israel of genocide and urging the United Nations, which, by the way, has a Palestinian aid agency that shares deep ties to Hamas itself, right?
So look, this group's actions are pretty ridiculous.
And I think I don't know if we're holding our noses for the IRS to do anything anytime soon, but people would like to see that.
That would be fascinating.
Do we have specific ties to politicians in this?
I mean, I know Bernie Sanders didn't vote for the funding bill, and he votes for any funding bill.
But this one he didn't vote for because there wasn't enough funding going to the organizations that actually committed the rapes on October 7th.
Do we have any idea if this is being specifically curated by any of these politicians?
Well, so this, right, these are grants that have taken place in the private sector, right?
Now, certainly we do see sometimes cases in which George Soros has funded radical anti-Israel organizations that also have actually gotten taxpayer dollars.
And that sort of brings open a whole can of worms.
In this case, we have not seen U.S. money directly.
I will say, pretty wild.
This organization is not just funded by George Soros.
They also happen to be funded by the European Union, the Netherlands, Sweden, and sort of various foreign charities.
And we tracked that through sort of various financial disclosures.
The European Union, I mean, these are the sort of things that you'd assume, right, that good journalists overseas in Europe would be banging on their doors and asking questions.
I mean, does the European Union stand for terrorism?
Is that kind of what they're about now?
So, Gabe, is there anybody looking into this?
Because we are on this suicidal path now where it seems we're funding all kinds of things that are bad for our own culture.
And you look at Europe, they've just put out a really stern warning about Russia-style attacks in the European Union, all throughout the European Union, perhaps here in America over the Easter weekend.
And yet they're paying, they're helping fund some of these radical organizations.
Any explanation why you think this would be happening?
Well, I think it's happening quite simply because, I mean, we have seen for decades that George Soros and other Democratic mega donors have had pretty much no issue bankrolling groups that documented terror ties have long existed.
And I think that I will say that, look, we put this on the radar, this funding, on certain lawmakers in Congress who have jurisdiction over, you know, tax-exempt organizations and the IRS.
I'd note that, for example, the House Ways and Meats Committee is the committee in the lower chamber that has jurisdiction over IRS, nonprofit organizations, and they have the ability to go after groups and send subpoenas, given their majority right now to bring powerful people before Congress.
That's something that we've seen.
They've begun to investigate Hamas-linked charities in the United States.
Now, to be clear, Almaison Center for Human Rights is not based in the United States, but their financier is George Soros, and his organization certainly operates domestically and with a $25 billion operating budget.
I had somebody ask me just the other day, why would George Soros do all of these things?
Why would he get involved in, you know, in particular, like this particular case that you have exposed down the Washington Examiner today?
How do you explain George Soros being Jewish and really doing everything he can to help crush the Jewish state?
I'll tell you what, Glenn, we've seen that there is a real network of terrorism-linked charities operating in the United States and overseas that continuously gain, have received money and donations from pretty mainstream organizations.
I mean, we covered late last year extensively how the Ford Foundation, the Tithes Foundation, Eric Schmidt's Foundation, ex-Google CEO, some of these very massive groups had given money to a terrorism-linked charity called Alliance for Global Justice in Arizona that literally sponsors a group sharing employees with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a U.S.-designated terrorist organization.
But the question, right, the question to begin with is why are they giving this money in the first place?
Well, I think it's pretty clear.
These are massive groups that don't do their due diligence looking into it.
I mean, our reporting, we've seen PayPal or Stripe or payment processors drop some of these charities upon us reaching out, and they act completely oblivious.
And so, but ignorance is not enough.
I mean, this information is well out there and documented, and someone's not doing their research.
Unbelievable.
Gabe Kaminski, thank you so much.
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Thanks for the story.
It is out in the Washington Examiner today.
Gabe is a Washington Examiner investigative reporter, again, talking about George Soros pledging a million dollars to Hamas propaganda organization that is linked right directly to terrorism.
Thank you so much, Gabe.
I appreciate it.
You know, there's another thing, Stu, that is interesting to me is all of these billionaires on the right, I'm sorry, on the left, that just give billions of dollars to destroy the West.
And I just don't see the billionaires on the right that are standing up to defend our republic.
I don't get it.
What are you going to do with all that money when there's, you know, we have plenty of money, but nothing our money could buy?
What are you going to do with all that money?
How do you not give everything now to try to turn the tide against this when this is the system that gave you the opportunity to have all of that money?
I mean, there certainly are examples.
I mean, I'm sure Donald Trump would note that he would be one of them, right?
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
And look what they're doing to him.
Sure.
I mean, this is, of course, the answer to the other side of your question, right?
I mean, there are a lot of people who donate money.
You know, Peter Thiel has been involved.
This has been a lot of people who have donated the Adelson family, of course, when I mean, there's a bunch.
But I do share your frustration at some level.
It does seem like, I mean, and at some level, it's understandable, right?
Like, you know, conservatives are, they think about business.
They don't think about like, you know, all of these, like trying to buy influence.
That's not necessarily the way that they do things.
I think the typical conservative thinks, I want to go out and make a good company.
I want to give people some enjoyment in the realm of capitalism and reap the fruits of that.
It just seems that the left gets a little more ideological on those things.
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I haven't seen it reported anywhere, but I saw this video.
Somebody sent it to me with my own eyes.
And for the life of me, I don't know if it's true or not.
But I can find online from the European conservative, Austria, France, and Italy have all issued warnings of potential terrorist threats to Europe by the Islamic state, ISIS, following the group's Monday concert hall attack that killed 139 people.
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French government increased the country's security alert to its highest level, which means more soldiers will be put on standby and ready to patrol sensitive sites, including schools.
According to the prime minister, France has thwarted two attack attempts by ISIS since the start of the year, including a foiled attack on the city of Strasbourg.
Did you see what Vladimir Putin is now saying, what his spokesperson said last night about the theater attack?
Yeah, they're talking about how they don't believe ISIS-K has the resources to pull off such an attack.
Yet not only that, they are now saying publicly to their own people and to the world that ISIS was created by the United States, and they're only seemingly attacking those enemies of the United States.
So they are now beginning to make the case that we're responsible for the terrorist attack in Russia.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, there's also reporting, too, that Vladimir Putin's inner circle knows that this is not true and knows that Ukraine had nothing to do with it.
But, I mean, you'd expect them to try to use this to their advantage, right?
Like, I don't have a high opinion of their moral clarity here.
No, nor do I, but I don't like to see them make the case.
And, you know, it's really kind of hard to defend.
We told you what Benghazi was all about.
The media refused to follow that story.
But years ago, we followed that story and we told you that it was a gun-running deal that involved, you know, the likes of John McCain and Hillary Clinton.
And it was a gun-running deal from Libya, Benghazi, to what became ISIS in Syria.
So in a way, we did arm them.
We, you know, hoped they were going to fight apparently on our side insanity, as we told you at the beginning.
But now Russia is using that against us in propaganda that is hard to thoroughly dismiss.
It's easy to dismiss.
We were working with them here, but we did aid them at the beginning.
All right.
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Yesterday, I told you that we were up at the ranch and I have a broadcast barn and I walk, you know, in the middle of the night, early, early in the morning, completely dark, and I walk from the ranch house to the barn to do the broadcast.
And yesterday, I had the door open and Jamie, the engineer, was sitting in here with me.
And we heard like, and then all these birds fly up.
It was a weird something.
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He said, I don't know, birds and something getting killed or something.
I don't know.
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And about five minutes later, I walked out of the broadcast barn and, you know, that purr that cats do, except it was like really low.
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And they backed back into the broadcast barn.
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I think there's a mountain lion out there.
Yesterday, after the show, one of the guys here in town that runs a country store, Jamie went down, he was having lunch and he was talking to the guys there.
And he said, yeah, we think we found a really big mountain lion that may be stalking us.
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So we have, I know it's like the fire swamps, but we have a cat of unusual size.
Wow.
And I think I'm going to come home.
I kind of, you know, as much as I like the mountains and everything, you know, Pat, but the giant catal this time of year, he should really enjoy the natural beauty of the outdoors.
Wait a minute.
You know, and those of us who broadcast barns, I have a hard time leaving mine.
Yeah, I do.
Shut up.
I got to tell you, man, usually prowl around my broadcast barn.
I know.
Yeah, that's good.
I got to tell you, you know, we have all been talking about we got to be prepared.
We got to be able to, you know, we got to be able to amputate legs if we have to without any medicine.
You know, I don't want to live in that world.
I don't want to live in that world.
I mean, a cat, a cat.
We were driving home late, late last night, and Tanya had flown in and I had just flown in.
I gave a speech up in Boise, Idaho.
And so I had just flown back and it's about midnight last night.
And as we're driving in, one of the guys who knows apparently about cats said, yeah, they'll stalk you.
If they know there are humans around and they're hungry, they'll lay in wait and they'll stalk you.
And I'm like, is it too late to get back on the plane?
Can we just go home?
I'd just rather worry about an angry mob.
Yeah, I think that'd be frightening.
I'd rather deal with that.
It is.
It's terrifying.
There's been something that's happened.
There's a convergence lately of conservative thought and this like, I don't know, natural struggle, right?
Like where like, you know, I'm going to get up and I'm going to take a cold shower every day or I'm going to do a cold plunge in the morning.
And like there's, there's a lot I like about that, but I don't like it in reality.
Like I like the thought of like, we need to be challenged and pushed to our limits.
I don't want to be challenged or pushed to my limit, though.
Yeah, no, I think there's a big difference between a cold plunge and a mountain lion.
Right.
I get that.
I was talking to somebody last night about what, about Theodore Roosevelt.
Theodore Roosevelt, I mean, you want to talk about a different age.
Theodore Roosevelt used to take his like six-year-old kids out into the woods and leave them there and go, find your way home.
You're going to be independent.
What?
Wow.
I know.
At 60, I don't want somebody to leave me alone in the woods and say, find your way home.
No, thank you.
No, no.
It's just a different world.
Even if the woods are on like the outskirts of a target parking lot, I don't want to be left there.
No.
Nope.
You know, it could be Victoria Park.
And I don't want to be left there.
No, thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Welcome to Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.
Pat, what's the big story of the day?
One of my favorite stories is that the Biden administration has allotted some money in the new Biden budget for the border, finally, the border security.
We're going to get some security there.
And they've allocated about $380 million to support enhanced border security in Egypt, Lebanon, Oman, Tunisia, and Jordan.
So we got that going for us.
I will tell you, though, you've left something out.
He's double-dipped on Georgia, Jordan, because there are two pieces in this, in the current legislation that just passed last week, where Jordan gets extra money for their border.
And then in the second part of the bill, Jordan gets extra money with everybody else for their border.
Well, that's part of our Jordan first policy, which I think a lot of Americans are totally in love with.
Really?
Yeah.
We have a Jordan first policy.
Yeah.
You know what's crazy?
Do you know why they're protecting their borders?
Jordans?
Because of the Palestinians.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
They don't want the Palestinians crossing their borders.
So we are supporting the Palestinians and then going and supporting the countries that are trying to keep the Palestinians out.
Right.
I mean, have you seen the border between Egypt and the Gaza Strait?
It's incredible.
It's impenetrable.
I mean, they really don't want Palestinians coming into their country.
Well, the only thing they don't have are those big, those big catapults that take the flaming rocks.
And I think those are on the way.
That's so medieval.
That's what they're going to use this $380 million for.
Rock catapults.
It's absolutely amazing.
And it's fascinating to me.
We're the only country on earth that is expected not to do anything at the border.
We have to put the welcome ad out.
No matter where you come from, no matter what you're doing here, no matter whether you're coming illegally with drugs or terrorism or whatever.
Come on in.
And we're certainly the only country on earth that is expected to do all of this for other nations.
Yes.
I get, you know, if we were in a place of true prosperity where we had, you know, trillions of dollars in, you know, not in deficits, but, you know, the other way around where you have more money than you need.
I don't know this sounds crazy for any government official who might be listening, but it is theoretically possible to have more money than you spent.
And if we had that, like maybe you'd understand, right?
Like people saying like, hey, you need to help out.
Now, I don't know.
That still wouldn't be our jobs, but when you are owing 20, 30, 40, 80, 100 trillion dollars for things you can't pay for, how can it possibly be part of the package that we're going to be doing this?
Yeah.
Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I mean, you could make the case that if we had, you know, let's say $40 trillion in, you know, surplus walking around money, you know, that was just sitting in a bank.
You could make the case, okay, let's help Jordan and Egypt and everything else.
But you couldn't make the case, let's help Jordan and Egypt and everybody else with their borders and fund Hamas.
It would still be insane.
Yes.
Even if you had the money.
And we're doing it.
And we're at a point where our government is changing roles now with Israel.
Where now we're like letting these resolutions go through that condemn Israel.
They say that they can't go into certain areas.
We're now abstaining from those votes instead of opposing them as we always have.
And at the same time, we don't seem to do anything to criticize Egypt or Jordan for not helping in this situation.
Why don't they?
They've made reports on it.
They're saying that the people in the Gaza Strip are now down to Rafah and they've got nowhere to go after this.
Well, whose fault is that?
That's the Arab country's fault because they could go there if you allowed it.
But they won't because every time they have opened their border, every country in the Middle East has had a revolution started by the Palestinians in those countries.
They know they don't want them there.
They know.
If it wasn't for Israel, the Middle East would declare the Palestinians an enemy of their states.
They just use them to destabilize and to hurt Israel.
They don't have any love for them at all.
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None.
That's for sure.
None.
Well, Jordan occupies twice the Palestinian territory that Israel does.
You never hear about that.
Nobody ever talks about that.
Why aren't they to blame for occupying Palestinian territory?
It's just such a ridiculous situation.
And Israel is an impossible situation.
There's some new things here that I want to talk to you about.
And I think it's very exciting.
You guys are going to be very excited.
In the next 12 to 24 months, SWIFT, you know, the SWIFT system of monetary exchanges that we kicked Russia out of.
Swift is going to be launching a new central bank digital currency platform in the next 12 to 24 months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I want to remind you, the government has no intention of doing anything like this.
If anybody says anything about things like this, we've been told for a very long time that's a conspiracy theory.
Except now it's not.
It's just a story from Reuters.
Thank you, Pat.
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we'll be right back so this easter week coming up next hour we're going to be talking about uh the shroud of turin with jeremiah johnston He is the author of a book called Body of Proof.
He never believed in the Shroud of Turin and he has done a lot of homework.
He's actually writing a whole book just on the Shroud of Turin.
It wasn't a Catholic relic until 1980.
It wasn't in the Catholic hands.
And it has been hidden several times, including during World War II, because of Adolf Hitler, who had plans of stealing the Shroud of Turin.
So we're going to talk a little bit about that with Jeremiah coming up in just a few minutes.
And even if you're not interested at all in any of those topics, it'll be worth listening to because Glenn had about three hours of sleep last night.
And I think there's at least at least a 10 to 20% chance you fall asleep during the interview.
In fact, I think that may have happened during the first interview we had today, judging by, I think it was the second question you asked, which took about 45 seconds for you to ask, but only contained two or three words.
So I, okay, okay, all right.
Come on.
It's not just me.
Everybody has had those moments at work where you're talking to somebody and you're not fully there.
You haven't heard a word they've actually said.
And all of a sudden they've stopped talking and they're looking at you for your response.
And you kind of wake back up and you're like, and well, I, yeah.
And that's why I, because I got into that, he stopped talking and I realized I've been dead asleep.
I haven't heard a word he said.
So I tried to ask a question that was vague enough so he could answer some way some other thing than what he just said because I had no idea what he just said.
And I was so afraid that I'd ask the question and he'd go, dude, I just answered that question.
This is where you're.
It's not just me.
I mean, everybody has this, right?
This is where your Radio Hall of Fame career comes in handy because any reporter who's on, you know, look, as much as, you know, I like to make fun of you.
You've had quite the career.
You're a broadcaster of some stature.
No one wants to call you out like that.
I mean, even if it was a complete repeat, they would just say, oh, well, God, you know, that's a good point.
And I'm glad you focused on that again because I wanted to make sure I clarified exactly what I just mentioned and said, and they'll just go with it.
So I think you have now reached the status where people will coddle you from your bad questions into generic answers.
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So here's some good news for Easter week.
The Democrats on the Fairfax County Board of Supervisor, you remember Fairfax County.
Fairfax County is the one that immediately called out the parents for being terrorists at the school board meetings.
Fairfax County, now the Board of Supervisors has voted to designate Easter Sunday as Transgender Visibility Day, which I just think, you know, there's this phrase that keeps coming to mind.
I'm trying to remember exactly how it was phrased.
Oh, I remember.
God will not be mocked.
So anyway, the proclamation goes beyond the supposed intent of making transgender people and transgender ideology activists feel seen on Easter.
Members of the board are also sending a message to Christians that they really don't matter, you know, because we're going to turn one of your holiest days, in fact, the holiest day of the year, into Transgender Visibility Day.
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Chairman Jeff McKay, a Democrat, you know, he played some lip service to the importance of advocating all constituents when the board passed this resolution.
He said, quote, as an elected official, it should be our moral responsibility to stand up for all people that we represent, not just the people we like or the people we agree on.
So I guess what he's saying there is, hey, we're recognizing Easter as we change it into Transgender Visibility Day.
Let's talk about Easter, shall we, in 60 seconds.
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Yesterday, we had Jeremiah J. Johnston on.
He is the author of a book called Body of Proof.
He's got his doctorate, but so do I.
So, I mean, what does that mean?
I'm a doctor of humanities, and I didn't even study for the test, but he's also the president of Christian Thinkers Society, Prestonwyn Baptist Church.
And we were talking yesterday about the Shroud of Turin, which surprised me because a lot of people, especially in the South, Baptists and evangelicals, they don't necessarily hold to the traditions of the Catholic Church.
And I think we all have unbelievable pieces of the puzzle.
And one of those pieces, I think, is the Shroud of Turin.
And I didn't know what to think about it until a few years ago.
But he's writing a whole book on the Shroud of Turin.
So we thought we would bring him back today.
This is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.
That's what it's purported to be, the burial cloth.
And it is a reverse negative.
It is almost like when his body came back to life, this is the way I view it.
His body came back to life.
It's like the burial cloth was like a film and it printed in a burst of light, it printed the negative of his body in that cloth.
And nobody really knows how it was made if it is fake.
Jeremiah, welcome to the program.
Glenn, it's great to be back with you.
And I'm sure we have people that right now they're like Thomas Didymus.
Remember Thomas the twin that he said in John 20, verse 25, hey, look, you can say Jesus is God, good for you.
But unless I see his nail-scarred hands, unless I can put my hand in his side, I won't believe.
Well, guess what?
We're going to do today on the Glenn Beck program.
You're going to be able to actually see the nail-pierced hands of Jesus.
Thanks be to the Shroud of Turin.
Okay, so explain the history of the Shroud of Turin, of where it came from.
When do we think that it first appeared?
Absolutely.
And so let's make sure we situate this because you bring up a really important point.
There has been a pejorative vibe towards the Shroud by anyone who isn't Catholic.
I want to remind our audience, the Catholic Church, they're the largest landowners on earth.
Did you know that?
They actually have a lot of land.
They have a lot of assets and property.
And guess what?
It turns out they have some excellent artifacts for the Christian faith.
C.S. Lewis.
We've all heard of C.S. Lewis.
I love Lewis.
I lived in Oxford for three years.
Glenn, I didn't know it until this year.
Jack Graham, my pastor, and I went to Oxford on an inspirational summer trip.
And then we went up and did some golfing at St. Andrews.
We literally went to Lewis's home.
And I look up on Lewis's home.
I don't know if you can see this, but for the benefit of our audience, I'm holding it right next to our foot, my face.
I look up.
C.S. Lewis kept a picture of the Shroud of Turin in his bedroom next to his bed where he slept.
And the reason he did that, Lewis said, I needed a reminder every morning and every evening that my God has a face.
And so we're not talking about something weird or French here.
Even C.S. Lewis took it seriously.
So when did it first appear on the scene?
This is what's remarkable about it.
The Shroud of Turin goes back far beyond the radiocarbon dating.
And as you point, because I mean, some people hear Shroud, they're like, what is that?
As you pointed out, this is a burial garment for Jesus.
All four gospels say that Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, two members of the Sanhedrin, remember if the Sanhedrin condemned a criminal to death, it was, according to the Mishnah, the Sanhedrin had to bury the condemned criminal.
What do we see in the juridical procedure of Jesus?
Two members, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus.
They take Jesus and they wrap his body in a burial garment and they bury him in Joseph of Arimathea's tomb.
It's not like when you think of, you know, wrapping a body, you think of like a mummy.
Right.
But this is actually like a very long tablecloth, very, very long.
And they laid it down, then put the body in.
And then where the head is, they took and they pulled that, the rest of the fabric down to his feet.
So it is a double image of the back, then a space, and then the front of this body.
Exactly.
And that is not unusual.
If you were into Jewish burial traditions, you would do that.
And you might say, oh, Glenn, Jeremiah, there's no way that a burial shroud could last for 2,000 years.
Give me a break.
Well, actually, when you are a student of history, you can see we even have a tar can dress linen shirt.
And guess what, Glenn?
It's 3,200 years older than the Shroud of Turin.
It's 5,000 years old.
So given the right set of circumstances, linen will last forever.
So you're exactly right.
They laid, and it's 14 feet long.
It's about four feet wide.
So longer than our studio table here at Mercury Studios.
And what's fascinating is something occurred.
And I have the top five reasons why I went from skeptic.
I mean, Glenn, I was a total skeptic until I went and wrote Body of Proof, did the video series for the Bible study body of proof in Jerusalem, went to the Shroud exhibit, had private access, looked at all the artifacts, and then I came out with top five reasons that utterly took me from skeptic to total defender now of the Shroud.
So let's share those.
Number five, let's do a countdown.
You like countdowns, Glenn?
The Shroud of Turin is the most studied artifact of the archaeological world.
There's not a close second.
And the second thing I want to say is it's also the most lied about artifact in the archaeological world.
So we're not going to.
Okay, so wait, let's start with the first one, which is the most studied.
How do you know that and what has been done to it?
Because I've read all the peer-reviewed journals, so you don't have to, Glenn.
There's been an amazing evidential history of the Shroud of Turin.
In 1978, the STERP team, this is the Stroud of Turin research project team, went to Italy.
They thought it'd be a free trip to Italy.
They were all having drinks in the lobby of the hotel, giggling that on the Catholic Church's dime, they were going to have a free trip to Italy.
They only needed two days to prove that it was a hoax.
And guess what?
Nobody was giggling two days later.
They had approximately 120 hours to examine this very ancient Shroud, which has a very unique history.
I mean, Hitler tried to steal it.
They had to save it from Hitler's hands during World War II.
I mean, the history of the Shroud is just remarkable.
So these were not Bible scholars.
These were not, as far as I know, outside of the priests that were kind of security overlooking the Shroud while it was being looked at.
These were all weapons scientists.
Barry Schwartz, who you interviewed, and I encourage everyone to go back and watch the Glenn Beck interview with Barry Schwartz.
He was a nominal Jew.
His only bias was he thought it was a hoax and a joke when he went there.
And now he's utterly convinced that it's not only not a hoax, because as we'll talk about in a minute, you can't, you cannot, if it's a hoax, it's never been repeated.
He's convinced that it's an authentic burial shroud of Jesus.
So it's the most studied cross-disciplinary artifact in the world.
And the 1970s, when Barry was part of this, as you said, they all went in as skeptics.
And I believe it came out at the time that it was possible, but the radiocarbon data was saying, no, it's like, you know, a thousand years later or something.
But something was wrong.
And I don't remember what it was.
Maybe you do.
Barry said it was only until later when technology changed that they realized, oh my gosh, this is that old.
Yeah.
And so 1978, you have the original research project, and they come out and what they say is it's not a hoax.
There's no pigment.
There's no ink.
There's no dye.
The shroud has survived three fires.
It's been doused in water twice.
If there was dye, if there was paint, it would have bled out.
It would have smeared.
So it's nothing.
And essentially, they came out and said it's not a hoax.
We don't know what it is.
10 years later, 1988, and this is point number three in the countdown, which we'll get to.
The 1988 radiocarbon dating was done.
So about 10 years after that original research project.
And this is when all the headlines came out, Glenn, that said this is a total hoax.
The carbon-14 dating dated it to the late 13th, early 14th century.
There's huge problems with that, and we'll discuss that.
Okay, so number four.
Number four, science today, and this is what really arrests my attention, cannot explain how the image is in the cloth.
Now, Glenn, you've seen the shroud.
I mean, it's stunning.
The energy it would have taken.
I've never actually seen it in person.
I was going to go to Turin.
I wanted to go this summer to Turin just to see it because talking to Barry Schwartz has totally changed my mind on it.
But you can't see it because it's protected.
It's under a vault.
They bring it out every few years.
It's at St. John the Baptist Cathedral in the Piedmont district of northern Italy, as you say, in Turin, Italy.
By the way, if you go to Jerusalem, there's an incredible shroud exhibit there that shows every aspect of the shroud.
But I'm talking not just scientists in general.
Rocket scientists, weapons scientists, chemical scientists cannot explain how the image is in the shroud.
If it was a forgery, if it was a hoax, it's never been able to be repeated.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
These aren't Bible theologians or commentators saying it.
They're scientists saying we cannot explain how there's an image.
And here's the fascinating thing, Glenn.
Do you know if you get closer than eight feet, the image vanishes?
You actually have to stand back from it about eight feet to be able to fully see the image.
It's very unique.
All right, back in just a second with more on the Shroud of Turin this Easter week first.
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10 seconds station id so jeremiah you've you've been studying this now when you When you look at the Shroud of Turin, I mean, it looks like a negative.
And back, you know, 2,000 years ago, if it was an artist, where was the concept of a negative?
I mean, they didn't know what a negative was.
Why would they even paint it that way?
Exactly.
Sometimes I say you have to have a doctorate to be this stupid to claim it's a hoax.
It just simply cannot be repeatable.
I mean, it wasn't until 1898 that the first ever photograph was taken of the shroud where they actually saw the photographic negative, this picture of Jesus.
And, you know, Glenn, as I mentioned yesterday, my area of scholarship is the physical, bodily, resurrection of Jesus, first century execution.
When you look at the time in which they say it was a hoax, which is medieval Christianity, the kind of Jesuses that we have in medieval Christian art are super effeminate.
They did not look at it.
Light skin, five foot eight.
What do we see in the image of the man of the shroud?
He is 72 inches tall, six foot tall.
He weighed approximately 154 pounds, 70 kilos.
Everything about it smacks of authenticity of what we expect of Jesus of Nazareth.
Including the look.
Yes.
You know, Jesus was at first very young.
The oldest images of Christ, you know, that they have found in baptismal fonts in and around Jerusalem.
He's like a kid and almost looks like a David.
Right.
Then it goes into this effeminate Jesus, and then eventually it goes into the Jesus that we all look at.
This guy is not, I mean, I was going to say no offense, but I'm talking about Jesus.
So really, honestly, no offense.
He's not necessarily what we would look at today and say, that's a good-looking guy.
Well, and he does not, he doesn't look like that that we've ever seen.
So, if we were forging it in the 14th century, Glenn, if you and I were trying to invent something that was a hoax, we wouldn't have invented it the way he looks.
That's the whole point.
Correct.
The book of Isaiah said the Messiah would have no form or comeliness.
He wouldn't be the most attractive guy in the room.
Correct.
I want to get to this, Glenn, because the only reason, and I want to correct some Christian thinkers out there, and I have some friends and colleagues.
And what I love about the Blaze, and I want to say this, Glenn, you know, one thing we learned going through COVID was the legacy media, they get ratings by counting up body counts all the time.
It's death, death, death.
You know what I love about your show?
You give us life, Glenn.
You give us truth.
And there's so, and especially with AI, the rise of AI, where we get verified information is going to be paramount in the future.
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And that's why I watch your show because I get to learn things like this.
And we're giving people life today.
There is an immediate connection to the truth of the Shroud for our life for all those doubters like Thomas Didymus out there.
But for some of my Christian thinking friends out there, you saw a newspaper article in 1988 that said the radiocarbon dating showed that the Shroud was a hoax.
So you just dismissed it without actually reading it.
Glenn, this is a little weird.
The British Museum, where I've been many, many times, they have great hot dogs, by the way, in the hot dog stand right outside.
When you go in the British Museum, did you know the British Museum suppressed the raw research data from the carbon-14 dating for 27 years?
It wasn't until an attorney, a solicitor in the UK, through a Freedom of Information Act, demanded them to – and by the way, the person in charge of the radiocarbon dating got a faculty seat at Oxford once they came out with it.
Stinks to me.
Okay, all right.
So we're going to go over the radiocarbon.
And what you find on the body of Christ fits perfectly from what we now know and may not have known when, you know, people said, oh, some artist did it.
What do you actually find?
The markings on the body of Christ from the Shroud of Turin this Easter week.
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We're talking about the Shroud of Turin with the author of Body of Proof, Jeremiah Johnson.
You We were talking about how the carbon data we found out that they said that it was, it couldn't prove anything or was inaccurate originally, but then the truth had been held back intentionally by the British Museum and came out.
When did that finally was when was that revealed?
Not until 27 years after the fact of the 1980 announcement that it was a hoax.
And this is where I want to correct Christian thinkers, even in the evangelical world, who've had this pejorative view thinking that this isn't a Catholic relic.
It didn't come into the Catholic Church until 1988.
It was owned by private families.
It was actually not even given to the Catholic Church.
It was given to the Pope.
So the Pope himself is the protector of the Turin Shroud, not the Catholic Church.
There's a distinction there that makes a difference.
Secondly, it's very important that people understand.
Let us suppose I'm right now in your studio, Glenn.
For those that are watching on Blaze TV, for those that are listening, we have a large table.
The Shroud of Turin for years was an object of worship, and it was laid out like a tablecloth.
And so it would have candles on it, and there are candle burns on it.
And there are repairings on the tablecloth, which we're talking about as the Shroud of Turin.
So the Oxford Laboratories and the two other laboratories, they only took one data point test, and they used one of the repaired areas of the Turin Shroud.
Oh, my God.
I have to be very clear about this.
So they purposely, intentionally picked off one of the Turin Shroud patches.
And so the carbon-14 dating is accurate about the patch work that was done about the Shroud, but not the origination of the Shroud.
Do you see the distinction there?
Why it's so important?
My friend Joe Marino, he has a great weekly email.
I'd encourage you to get it.
He just wrote an 800-page book, 800 pages refuting the carbon-14 dating.
So if you're going to call the Shroud of Turin a hoax, please don't use the CR-14 dating because it just doesn't hold water.
And is it true that they actually have found the blood type now?
We know the blood type of the man who, I mean, seems to crucify Christ.
Not only do we have the blood.
Glenn, you know I'm a follower of Jesus.
Ephesians 1, 7 says, in him, in Jesus, we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins by the abundance of his grace.
And on the Turin Shroud, we have identified using some fascinating, and this is to your point at the top of the hour, some new methodology scientifically.
We know the blood type of the crucified victim of the shroud is type AB blood.
Less than four, like I know my blood type, Glenn.
It's A positive, if you wanted to know.
The blood type of the crucified man is type AB.
Less than 4% of the world, and it's Semitic.
Less than 4% of the world has type AB blood.
And do you know what's kind of interesting?
This is a parenthetical note.
Do you know if you ever need to give a blood transfusion and you have type AB blood, you can give your plasma to any blood type?
Isn't that interesting to think about?
We have redemption through the blood of Jesus and his blood, even his blood, actually can be transfused to heal anyone.
There's a lot we could talk about there.
I would love to see what we can do now with genetic testing of blood to see what that blood actually says.
Also, the markings on the shroud from the body, the crucifixion has always, I think, except for Mel Gibson's movie, has always been downplayed on the cruelty of it.
It was unbelievable what they did to his body.
As I told you yesterday, I studied early Christology, so I know what crucifixion was like, and it was brutal, and then what his crucifixion was like.
And on the shroud, you see like these little, they're almost bone-shaped or barbell-shaped wounds that were at the end of the cat of nine tails.
Correct.
And it just dug into his body.
All over his body.
We've counted the amount of wounds on the crucified man of the shroud, Glenn.
And I have to just pause and just say, people need to realize how much God loves them right now.
There are 372 lacerations on the crucified man from his neckline to the bottom of his calf muscles over his buttocks.
He was, remember, he was beaten twice.
They literally beat the hell out of Jesus at Caiaphas' house, and then they did, where they did 39 minus one lashes, but the Romans had a field day.
They did not have a limit in the Roman praetorium when they began to beat Jesus.
And if you take 90, he would have been whipped, I think, Glenn, 93 to 100 times because that Roman tail, that Roman whip had four fingers on it that has the barbells on it.
And that literally, they whipped him from the front to the back.
He was whipped naked, crucified naked.
And this is why, Glenn, I hope you'll encourage people to keep getting my book, Body of Proof and the Bible Study, because I want people to understand the crucifixion of Jesus is the best established fact of the ancient world.
And here's why you need to know that.
As you rightly pointed out, Glenn, Jesus was crucified in an unbelievably heinous way.
They put a helmet of thorns, not like a sweatband of a few pricks, a helmet of thorns on his head.
And we actually see the blood all over the crucified Vic man's forehead.
His jaw is broken.
His nose is broken.
There is almost like a backwards three.
If you look closely at the image of the shroud, there's like a backwards three that lights up actually on his forehead.
That was some kind of significant blow to his forehead.
What did Jesus die of?
He died from the beating.
Remember, he was told to carry the petibulum, the crossbar, after this beating to the place of execution.
He couldn't even do that.
He was so exhausted.
Simon of Cyrene is chosen to carry the cross beam.
Jesus only lives for a few hours on the cross.
He only survives a few hours.
The crucifixion begins at 9 a.m.
By 3 p.m., he had already been dead for a few days.
Do you know on the shroud, we actually see the lance spear wound right on his torso?
There's rigamortis setting in.
You say, I only see four fingers.
That's because his hands for several hours had been outstretched for us on a cross.
And Rigamortis, because of the metabolic rate of his heart at the time of death, rigamortis started early.
It started actively and immediately.
And so when I think about the cross and I think about that passage, by his stripes I am healed, I take it seriously, not just on a matter of faith, Glenn, but as a matter of fact.
And I see that in Jesus, who is the crucified man of the shroud.
So when you look at the wounds in the hands, did they double nail him through the wrists as well?
Yeah, thank you for that clarification, Glenn.
Very astute.
The wounds of the crucified man are in the wrists, as it should be.
We often say hands just as a shorthand way.
And they also tied him so he couldn't pull himself on the cross.
If it was through the palm of the hand, it would have just ripped off through.
Ripped right out.
But the crucified victim, again, all of it smacks of authenticity.
And this is my number one reason, okay?
All the data that you see from the Turin shroud, I'm talking about the floral.
Do you know it had a smell to it?
It smelled like myrrh and aloe.
Why?
Juice spiced the body.
The original stirrups team said they could still smell myrrh and aloe.
I don't mean aloe vera.
I mean aloe the tree coming off the Turin shroud when they saw it in 1978.
There's floral.
There's pollens on it that are Semitic.
I wish we had more time.
The numismatic, there's coins.
Glenn, I have in my hand in your studio right now a Temple Tax Syrian Turin silver coin.
It was on this very Thursday, Glenn, that Judas betrayed Jesus Christ.
He was paid 30 of these.
These are extremely rare.
This is the Temple Tax coin.
Well, do you know we actually have coins on the face of the crucified man?
This is very interesting.
That's why I bring it up.
The textile, the archaeological, the hematological.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I didn't know about the coin.
I didn't know about the coins.
Yeah, two coins on his face.
Yes, right on his eyes.
Over his eyes?
Over his eyes.
And that points, and this is what I would encourage you to keep studying this hematological fabric, historical documents.
They all point to a much earlier origin.
So if you're a skeptic, I want you to know it points to a much earlier origin than what that CR-14 dating says.
It all exhibits verisimilitude with how you crucified someone in the first century.
And I want to make this important point, Glenn.
Crucifixion was so bad, Roman historians didn't tarry on it too long.
Do you know what historical document gives us the most detailed account of what Roman execution was like in the first century?
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.
Because if you were a Roman citizen, Glenn, you didn't care.
Even if you were the worst, you weren't going to get crucified.
That was just for slaves and non-Romans.
The Gospels give us the most detailed account of Roman crucifixion.
And again, they get it right.
What is your understanding of the size of the cross?
Because when I studied it, it was they were purposely smaller.
So the feet were only a couple feet off the ground because they wanted the travelers coming in to be able to look in the eyes of the dead.
And many times, most times, they had been pecked out by birds and the bodies were left to be ravaged by dogs.
And by the way, if you wanted to go up and get your own slap or punch in, you could too.
I mean, this was the ultimate execution.
And because of cross piety, we continue to make the cross bigger and bigger.
And this is where I want to share with people.
Jesus Christ is not on the cross anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
And I'm so thankful for that.
Jesus is not in the tomb anymore.
He is before us on a throne.
So how do you think of, I know there's no way to prove it, and there's also, you know, this is not essential to our salvation.
Right.
There's some things that we have to believe that are essential to our salvation.
This is not one of them.
However, I happen to believe in the Shroud of Turin.
And I always look at it in a certain way on how that imprint was left.
How do you explain it in your own head?
Okay.
And again, I filmed inside the very tomb of Jesus inside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
So I examined the burial shelf where a six-foot body would have been laid, the body of Jesus.
Okay.
So I'm in that very room, Glenn.
And the way that I can explain it for busy moms and dads and individuals out there, it's like a bolt of lightning, of energy.
It's not radiation.
That's the only way in a layman's term that we don't know exactly how, but a flash.
Think of flash photography.
A flash of light that was otherworldly and Jesus is dead.
And then in that moment, he's alive and it literally left a mark.
Yeah, amazing.
Jeremiah, thank you so much.
I really appreciate your time.
Jeremiah Johnston, the name of the book is Body of Proof.
And you can find him at Prestonwood Baptist Church, also Christian Thinkers Society president, Jeremiah Johnston, Body of Proof.
Thanks, Jeremiah.
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Diddy and the Nihilism of Hip-Hop00:14:04
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Jason Whitlock is one of my favorite people and somebody that I really truly admire and I think is a great broadcaster.
And not necessarily for the show or his opinion or anything else, but I think he's a great broadcaster because he is a man searching for truth.
And that is the most exciting part of people's lives.
And it'll be the part of your life that when you do, if you've already done it, you remember it this way.
If you haven't done it, you will remember when you pushed yourself to figure out what you truly believe.
And I think Jason is in that portion of his life in many areas.
And most people don't share that.
And he shares it every day.
He is the Blaze TV host of Fearless, Jason Whitlock.
Hello, Jason.
How are you?
Glenn, awesome introduction.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
You bet.
And I want to talk to you about some of the things that you're going through right now and the things that you're discovering and things that you're doing this summer.
I'm going to be joining you on one of your events that I think is just so worthwhile.
But first, can I take you to the news that I have not been following?
And I don't know if this is important or not.
P. Diddy, I don't know what the hell is going on with him, but I'm hearing talk like he is the new Jeffrey Epstein.
Can you tell me this story?
Yeah, let me tell you why it's important for you and your audience.
And we unpacked this last week on my show, trying to get a broader perspective on what's going on with Diddy.
And it's about the music industry, and it's about the push for nihilism and how they have manipulated our entire American culture to be more nihilistic.
And they've done it with music, and hip-hop is at the forefront of that.
And so Diddy is someone of marginal talent who's been installed and who has been allowed to use the music industry to sexually compromise young people, celebrities, other entertainers, politicians, or whatever.
But it's like this whole, part of the realization and understanding we have to come to is like everything in culture.
Tucker Carlson talked about this a couple of weeks ago about just like architecture and how it's not the same as it used to be.
And so in all the arts, they're trying to push us towards a nihilistic worldview.
And they've done that with hip-hop.
And P. Diddy is one of the faces and most powerful people in hip-hop.
But again, as I expounded on, it's not just Diddy.
It's like BlackRock and Vanguard.
They actually own the music industry and control the music.
Wait, The investment houses of BlackRock and Vanguard, do they own the music industry?
Absolutely.
From Sony Music Group, they're the most invested in the music industry.
They're the most through Viacom.
They own B.E.T., MTV, VH1.
They're in control of the music industry.
And they also own the majority, the overwhelming majority of stock in the private prison industry.
I think the stock name is called CXW now.
It's called Cora Civic.
It used to be called Corrections Corporations of America.
And then they transitioned the name.
And so this whole hip-hop deal was about creating a culture where like prison is a rite of passage and corruption and criminality is just built into the system and it feeds the prison system, the private industry, and it's exploded.
But more than anything, it's promoted a nihilistic view and a view that life really has no meaning.
And it's disconnected us from our moral principles and religious principles.
That's what Diddy is the face of, and that's why I'm glad he's getting his comeuppance.
And I hope that they don't do a cover-up and not expose everyone involved because it's not just hip-hop.
Music has been headed this direction and pushing us a nihilistic direction for a long time.
And this needs to be discussed and exposed.
This isn't limited to black kids or the urban inner city.
The way they've pushed hip-hop and made it the most popular music in the world, and they pushed it in sports and pushed it everywhere.
It's affecting everyone.
I have to tell you, they're doing it now to the last bastion of decency in entertainment, and that is in Nashville, country music.
It is going woke and ugly.
And, you know, they have just infested everything, and they're tearing it apart.
I mean, you listen to popular music now.
I mean, imagine the last time we went through this, you know, revolution kind of spirit with Marxism.
It's back in the 60s.
And you had artists that were singing really uplifting stuff.
Some of it was garbage, but some of it just, it was an empowering movement.
You listen to music now and it is disgusting.
It is all about, I mean, I challenge you to listen to especially hip hop and some popular music of that genre.
And I challenge you to find a song that isn't talking about somebody's butt or putting something in somebody's butt.
It's incredibly degrading.
Glenn, for someone like myself who's 56 and who grew up on R ⁇ B music, R ⁇ B music used to be a lot of romantic love songs.
Yeah.
You can't find in R ⁇ B or hip-hop, love is not remotely on the table.
No.
I mean, it just not, you go through the billboard, top 100, love, anything about love, not remotely on the table.
If you want to listen to music that promotes love between a man and a woman, you got to go listen to music made in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
It's just disappeared.
This is intentional.
They've just removed love from the culture.
So, Jason, what is Diddy accused of doing?
You know, drugging, raping young girls and young men, sexually compromising and leveraging the entertainers that work for him,
employing a cleanup man named Fahid Muhammad, who if you're familiar with the TV show Ray Donovan, if you ever watch that on Showtime, this guy would go up and clean up the crimes that Diddy and or any of his entertainers were involved on.
And there's these two lawsuits, one that he settled, but the second one with this Rodney Jones that he hasn't settled.
There's allegations of shootings and murders and things like that that have been cleaned up by this guy.
How does that happen?
How does that happen?
It's not my world, so I would only be speculating.
But yeah, these are the types of allegations that have been going on.
And again, Diddy sexually compromising, forcing his entertainers into having sex with him, with men, with women, and then using his house and cameras everywhere in his house.
So when he would throw these parties, if there were celebrities or politicians or prominent entertainers there, he'd have everything recorded.
And so those people would be compromised.
And so, yeah, they're calling him the Jeffrey Epstein of the music industry.
And I don't think it's a bad label.
But again, this is, Diddy comes from a compromised background.
His father was a drug dealer in the 70s, who got busted and I think snitched on some other drug dealers and then got murdered when Diddy was just three years old.
And so what the rap music world really, where they fish for talent, is in all these broken, compromised, dysfunctional homes.
And so Diddy likely sexually abused when he was a child and obviously father murdered, didn't grow up in an ideal environment.
He'll do anything for money.
And that's why he gets installed and promoted and put in a position of power because he's easily controlled, because he comes from a background where the values just weren't instilled.
And again, this whole nihilistic view of the world and all the breakdown of the nuclear family that they've pushed, they're destroying the family structure so that our kids are more vulnerable and will be more easily seduced into wickedness and a lack of morality.
So last question, and then I got to take a quick break and then come back because I want to talk to you about your event.
But why now?
Why has he gotten away with this for so long and now it's just coming out?
That's a great question, Glenn.
And I would my only explanation at this point is that I think we're in that time where so my biggest explanation is yeah, my biggest explanation is that I don't think we fully recognize all the dominoes that Trump knocked over just by saying fake news and making us like willing to question everything.
Why We Question Everything Now00:15:28
And what Trump has done is legitimize the so-called conspiracy theorists.
So now the public, I think, is more ready for the truth.
And people are, you know, filing lawsuits.
And because there's independent media and there's those of us that have had the scales taken off our eyes, willing to talk about it and expose it.
But it's, again, I don't want to make too much of Trump, but he's really consequential in giving all of us the courage to say, man, we got to look at things in an honest fashion.
Yeah.
All right.
Back with Jason Woodlock.
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He's doing a roll call, a call to all men to step into the role of men and learn how to be a man and what that means in today's world.
doesn't mean an alpha male.
It means somebody who understands the righteous dominion that a man has and the important role that they play along with women and their righteous dominion.
And so this is happening where again in Nashville, Jason?
Here in Nashville, Friday, May 31st and Saturday, June 1st.
Glenn, my vision on this is I'm trying to create an event where men come together across our little petty differences, skin color.
Some of us may be of different faith denominations, but we're all believers in God and we all have to understand.
And this is why I'm so pleased that you're coming to speak, is because this year we're focusing on like trying to tell men like, hey, there's sacrifices we're going to have to make if we want to restore this country, if we want to have a world that's better for our kids than what we founded.
And so I don't think anybody that I know in the media space understands the sacrifices that were made to make this country great better than you.
And if we're not reminded like that people made incredible sacrifices for us to enjoy this freedom, and that means we have to make some sacrifices to protect it, restore it.
And so that's what I want you to talk about.
Give us a bit of a historical perspective on it, because I think we've lost the willingness to sacrifice.
I think too many of us have been enjoying what we were given rather than protecting what we're giving.
And so whether it comes to some financial sacrifices, a smaller home, or just the willingness to stand on truth and speak out and deal with the consequences and quit worrying about someone calling you racist or an Uncle Tom or a homophobe or this or that.
Stand on truth.
Be willing to make that sacrifice to improve this culture.
Well, that is the first time I've heard, you know, because I agreed to do this, but I hadn't talked to you about what you want me to speak on.
I will give you a rip-roaring talk on sacrifice and what it has taken to get here and what our responsibility is now.
I can't wait for that.
And I'm speaking on Saturday, June 1st, I believe, right?
Yeah.
Let me throw in one other thing, too, Glenn.
I forgot to mention.
I partnered this year in moving forward with John Rich, the country music star.
Oh, I love him.
Many people know John, big and rich, but he's made some incredible music, gospel music, Christian music.
And so the idea is that music and food are things that we can all come together on without caring about our differences.
They're two things that really bring us together.
It's like they've ruined sports, and now that divides us as well.
But everybody loves good music.
Everybody loves good food.
And we're inviting everybody that loves God to come join us.
Let's get together.
Let's prove everybody wrong and let's prove the other side wrong.
That as men, we can come together, put our differences aside, celebrate God, listen to some good music, hear some inspiring speeches, and eat and enjoy Nashville.
I think it's going to be powerful.
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Got it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
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I want to share a story with you that shows you who these loving, loving Marxists are.
These people that tell us that, you know, we should destroy our family, that there is no redemption for white people, you know, that you have to listen to them because they really care about the children, which are now being mutilated in horrific, horrific surgeries.
You want to talk about being on the wrong side of history?
That's one.
But I want to talk to you about Oakland.
I've told you before about how bad things are in Oakland, California right now.
I told you just earlier this week about a Taco Bell that was forced to close.
Another one had to switch to a drive-through with cashless payments only because they were coming in and robbing the store.
Then the same store, when they put their cash into a safe at night, the safe, somebody broke in, broke a window, put a chain around the safe and just pulled it through a wall and stole.
And then they decided that they were just going to do cashless payments.
And what has happened since?
Now they're going in and robbing the customers.
And nobody's stopping anything.
Nobody's doing anything.
Another fast food chain now been hit by the crime surge is In N Out.
The chief operations officer said, quote, despite taking repeated steps to create safer conditions, our customers and associates are regularly victimized by car break-ins, property damage, theft, and armed robbery.
Now, this particular In-N-Out that he's talking about sits within a square mile of several gas stations, and cops say those gas stations are targets of a dozen violent crimes a day.
A day.
So now that I've set the scene on what a hellhole they've turned Oakland, California into, let me tell you this.
And remember, these are the people that are going to show us utopia.
A wheelbound, a wheelchair-bound centerian has been threatened with a hefty fine from Oakland officials after thugs graffitied his home and he was unable to remove the paint.
This is the guy's name is Victor Silva Sr.
He is apparently, because he's in Oakland, is a frequent target of vandalism in his city of Oakland.
He's 102 years old.
He has lived, worked, and paid taxes in Oakland for over 80 years.
And the city of Oakland now is fining him $1,100 because this 102-year-old has not painted over the graffiti put on his own house.
So he was just given a citation and they demanded that the paint had to be removed by Tuesday the 19th.
And if it's not, an additional fine would be added for every failed inspection in the future.
So they're going to just fine this guy out of existence.
By the way, he's about to have a birthday and turn 103 and they're hassling him.
We have the video of it.
Sarah?
Yeah, sure bound, Oakland-born 102-year-old Victor Silva Sr. often finds graffiti painted onto his back fence of his Oakland home where he's lived and paid taxes for 80 years.
Earlier this month, he got a violation citation from the city of Oakland to remove it by Tuesday the 19th or face an $1,100 fine plus an additional $1,277 for each failed re-inspection.
Okay, stop.
This is absolutely insane.
This is insane.
So you know who had to go over to the house and paint it?
Was his son, who is 70 years old.
His son has to paint the graffiti every time it pops up on the house, and it pops up on the house daily, daily.
And he is being fined because he can't keep up with it daily.
Now, I want to tell you how much this progressive government of Oakland loves her people.
There is a utility box.
You know those things?
They're on the telephone poles, their giant utility box, or they're on the corner of the street and they have the big handle.
You open it up and all the utilities are there.
That city property, that is vandalized every day as well.
But they're not covering the paint.
Is the city fining itself for the graffiti on the things that it owns?
Of course not.
Of course not.
Just this 103-year-old man who's lived in the city.
And you know what would happen in any normal city in America?
In any normal city in America, neighbors would stand up and say, this is an outrage.
And they would help paint that as much as they could.
But they wouldn't just paint it and live by it.
They would then go to the city and they would go to the press and they would say, enough is enough until the city can keep up with the crime and the city can keep up with the box right there down the block from his house that is covered in graffiti until they have to do it.
No, leave this man alone.
Leave him alone.
Where is the decency and the willingness to stand up as a community?
Governments do not care about individuals.
And I got to tell you, I gave a speech last night in Boise, Idaho to the Republicans.
And all these politicians that are in Washington, the hippie generation, go away.
A New Generation Serves the People00:06:02
You've had your turn.
You smoked all the dope you wanted to smoke in the 60s.
You destroyed things in the 1960s.
And then you've become the monster you said you could never trust.
You are the man times two because you're a very, very, very, very old man now or woman.
And you still have your claws into everything.
And you are stealing from the youth.
All these people who are in that hippie era, it is time for you to let go.
Time for you to let go.
Now, you could be that old and fully, like, like Dershowitz.
He's fully in charge of his faculties.
He's retired a long time ago, but he's still involved because he's fighting for freedom and truth.
If you're fighting for freedom and truth, that's good.
If you are doing nothing but enriching yourself, it's disgusting and despicable.
All of these rhino Republicans, I got to tell you, your day is over.
It is over.
You think you still have power that you're gonna somehow or another magically pull a rabbit out of your hat and not be a pariah in politics, but you're going to be a pariah in politics.
I guarantee it.
Your time is over.
A new generation is coming in.
And more and more of the generation that's coming in knows why they serve and who they serve.
They serve the people, not themselves, not the special interest, not the party.
They serve the people.
And why and how do they serve?
The Constitution of the United States of America, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.
I am so sick of being called an extremist by a group of people that are embracing corruption and Marxism and telling a 103-year-old man, you got to do what we don't even do.
Go screw yourself.
If I'm the extremist, then the world is completely upside down.
If we're the ones that are anti-government, but we're the ones who want a restoration of the rule of law, we want criminals to go to jail, and those criminals can be from the border or in the highest offices of the land.
I want blind justice.
I want the Constitution and the Bill of Rights protected and enforced.
That doesn't make me an extremist.
That makes me an American.
And if you want to define those people that believe in the Ten Commandments and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the rule of law, you want to call us extremist.
You go ahead.
But I am never going to shut up and say, no, you, you are the extremist.
You've turned the world inside out.
You have made good, evil, and evil good.
I'm not going to shut up, nor should you.
You should not have fear.
are the one who will be the winner in history you will be the one that will we're living in a time right now You might be working with somebody who someday they're going to build a statue.
Long after we're all dead, they'll build a statue of.
Because that person stood up and did something miraculous, heroic, courageous.
We're not in those days yet, but we are quickly approaching them.
We're the simple act of standing up and saying, no, that's not true.
When that is a true act of courage, you are in the portions of history where they eventually build statues to those people.
It's disgusting.
You know these people don't care about the poor.
They care about the rich.
Every time they say the rich have to pay their fair share.
Well, A, state the percentage of a fair share.
Okay?
State the percentage.
And we can discuss that, but you won't.
And when you go after the so-called rich, you never go after the rich.
Ever, ever.
You go after the entrepreneurs.
You go after people who have built something.
You don't go after the really rich.
George Soros, do you think he's paying a lot of taxes?
No, because they'll never change the laws that force men like him to pay taxes.
He'll pay his income tax, but he's not making income anymore.
And you say, look at he's not paying income tax.
He's paying less than that secretary.
Of course he is, because that's the way you have designed it.
You're just hurting the people who are building themselves and their families and building new businesses.
Sick of it.
Sick of it.
Learn the truth and then spread the truth and do it without fear.
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Sam Bankman-Freed Sentenced to 25 Years00:01:05
Sam Brankman freed has been sentenced.
Some places are reporting it as 20 years.
The way I'm reading it, it looks like to me 25 years.
It's a 20-year sentence plus another five years tacked onto it.
Regardless, he is going away to prison for a decent amount of time, 25 years.
And I know there was some concern that, you know, because of his funding tendencies, that he would get basically nothing.
At least he's getting something.
Whether you think 25 years is enough is maybe another question.
A lot of people lost a lot of money thanks to Sam Bankman Freed and his FTX.
A lot of people gained it too.
A lot of celebrities gained a lot of money.
I don't know if anyone remembers that, but the whole point is Sam Bankman Freed going away for 25 years.
And when he went away, it had a sort of a collapse of crypto prices.
But it's interesting that here we are, not too far later, as he goes to prison.
Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies stand at near all-time highs.