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I just inverted it, which kind of defeated the whole problem.
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Welcome, Pat.
Thank you.
Good to be here.
Good to see you.
I hope you're, I mean, obviously you're in a mode of celebration.
Bidenomics: The Middle Class Gift00:15:52
Oh, obviously.
Because Bidenomics is here.
And working so tremendously well.
So it is.
Yeah.
I mean, what do you want from this man?
What does he have to do for you to finally understand how good he's been as president of the United States?
Yeah.
You know, sometimes your opponent gives you a gift.
Let me give you an example of this.
Closing moments of the Super Bowl, New England Patriots, Seattle Seahawks.
Marshawn Lynch, the running back for the Seattle Seahawks at the time, one of the best short-yardage running backs in the NFL.
The Seahawks are on the one-yard line at the end of the Super Bowl.
Should be able to get a yard.
Get a yard, right?
You got multiple chances at it.
You got to give it a shot.
Well, we'll never know.
Instead, they decide to throw a pass.
Russell Wilson throws an interception.
They lose the Super Bowl.
Yep.
Right?
This is the level of gift we have been given by Joe Biden when he himself decided to coin his economic record as Bidenomics.
Right?
Like, it wasn't us doing it to him.
Like Obamacare, we did to the other side.
We said this is called Obamacare.
They said, no, it's the, what was it?
The Affordable Care Act.
And we said, no, it's Obamacare.
And that led to the largest landslide election in our history, in 100 years, at least, at the time, in 2010, if I'm thinking back correctly, the Tea Party wave, right?
Obamacare was a big part of that.
This really unpopular program was kind of stuck on him.
Now, of course, once it became a giveaway, it's now sort of reversed in its popularity and it's not nearly as negative as it was back then in polling.
That's because it's almost a giveaway.
It's like a handout.
Once you start doing handouts, people become addicted to it.
Social Security, for instance, which isn't a handout because you pay into it your whole life.
But yeah, I mean, there's asterisks all over that statement, but I know what you're saying.
Yes.
But it's when you start a welfare program or a program that gives people great deals, you're never going to be able to take it back.
Free stuff.
Yeah.
You know, and that is something that always invades.
This is why we fought so hard against it back in 2009 and 2010.
And honestly, all the way up until 2017, 18, because that was when, you know, of course, President Trump ran on repealing it.
They weren't able to get that across the finish line, unfortunately.
And now we're sort of stuck with it.
And of course, now people have factored it into their lives, right?
They've made it part of their budgets.
They've made it part of their lives.
Now, this is totally not what I planned on talking about here, but a new chart just came out about healthcare costs.
And remember all the talk about bending the cost curve?
Do you remember this conversation?
Yeah, and it was going to lower the payments per family $2,500 a year.
$2,500 a year.
And of course, that didn't happen.
It didn't go down $2,500 a year, but their argument was, well, no, what we mean is it's $2,500 less than it would have been, right?
Less than the cost curve, right?
Oh, my God.
Eventually, you'll see that.
And they went on and on and on about that, trying to make you believe it.
And of course, the media at every step of the way told you you should believe it.
But here now we have the results.
In 2008, the average U.S. family health insurance premium was $13,000.
In 2010, it was $14,000.
So it was going up $1,000 or about $500 a year in that stretch.
Then Obamacare came in.
We were told it's going to be $2,500 less.
In 2010, it was $14,000.
2012, $16,000.
2014, $17,000.
2016, $18,000.
2016, excuse me, $18,000.
2018, $20,000.
2020, $21,000.
2022, $22,000.
It's now double almost.
It's about 60% higher than it was when Obamacare passed.
My God.
It has gone up and if you look at the chart, you could see that the years previous going up at a pretty steep increase.
And then after Obamacare, what you see is it going up at almost exactly the same level of increase, maybe a little more.
This is a failure.
But it was something that we tried to pin on Obama, right?
Intentionally.
We said it at the time.
Like, we want people to remember this was this guy doing this to us.
Right.
Similarly, if we were strategizing about the 2024 election, we might say to each other, hey, I want people to remember this is Joe Biden's plan for our country.
Our economic future is locked up in, let's come up with a term for it, by dynamics.
That is absolutely something that could have happened.
However, it is not what happened.
What happened was Joe Biden, who is obviously either completely senile or a moron, decided to take both.
He's both.
Both.
Okay, thank you for clarifying that.
Decided to take credit for this.
He was like, when you think about what's happening to you in this economy, think about me.
It's by dynamics.
I did this to you.
I mean, it is one of the biggest gifts in history, in the history of politics.
We've never seen anything like this.
No one takes responsibility for their failures.
That's the opposite of what you're supposed to do in politics.
And yet they lie so much, they make it seem like it's a huge success.
He'll often stop in the middle of a speech about the things he's accomplished and he'll say, and they gave me the name Bidenomics for my plan.
They didn't mean it as a compliment, but guess what?
It's working.
I mean, how many times has he done that?
He's done that line over and over and over and over again.
And it's, wait, it's working?
I'm glad this is them taking responsibility.
He's also, and this is a very common trait from Joe Biden.
When he wants to name himself something, he acts as if other people have named him that thing.
Middle-class Joe.
Middle-class Joe, lunchbox Joe.
Oh, people always call me middle.
This is back when he had some energy.
People always called me middle-class Joe.
They didn't mean it as a compliment.
But I took this one.
And nobody ever called him middle-class Joe.
No, except him.
There was literally mainstream media stories talking about how no one had ever called him middle-class Joe publicly until he called himself middle-class Joe publicly.
No one.
It had never occurred.
No one would ever call him that.
It's a stupid nickname, but he wanted you to think he's middle class.
He wanted you to think he's blue collar.
He wanted you to think, oh, he's just a union guy happening to get this job as president of the United States.
And the same thing happens here.
No one called it Bidenomics.
He said, you know what?
We should own this.
And there were some left-wing economists who were saying, ah, maybe we're looking at this economy wrong.
And things are actually more positive.
A lot of that's gone away now, but he jumped on the fray at that, into the fray at that time and decided to just embrace it.
And now it's burning him.
I mean, look at the polls on it.
You know, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden on this issue by more than 20 points.
And this is just one of the things.
It's not nearly as bad as the border stuff, which is even worse for Biden.
But it is something where he's failed over and over and over again.
Wait.
Sorry, did you just say the border has failed?
Apparently, you've not listened to people like Alejandro Majorgas.
The border is secure.
Okay.
Did you not hear that?
Oh my gosh.
No, you know what?
I did miss that.
Okay.
Because I happened to see thousands of people just yesterday streaming across the border.
We actually have a look at that, I think.
So if you're watching on Blaze TV, here's how that looks.
It's wondrous.
Did they just put Taylor Swift tickets on sale?
No, no.
That's people, thousands of them just rushing our border.
Look at that.
That was in El Paso last night.
It's incredible.
And Pat, honestly, it's outrageous.
All right.
If I told you, if you squinted a little bit, because some of the details are a little different, but if I see you squinted a little bit and I said, hey, that's the Ukraine-Poland border a year and a half ago, would you be surprised?
The only thing about it is the Poland situation was more organized.
Like that is, it's a catastrophe.
It's impossible to describe how bad this has been on the border.
And that's just another one of the problems.
The border, interestingly, Pat, gives him worse polling results than even like the Afghanistan withdrawal, which is a known catastrophe.
Right?
So this has been an ongoing disaster from the day he walked into office until today.
They have nothing.
They have seemingly no ability to do anything.
And the one step where you might say, okay, well, maybe, look, they're taking a step in the right direction, at least.
They're going to build 20 miles of wall.
That's great.
I don't believe that he cares about the border, but okay, maybe, maybe, I don't know.
Maybe he's trying to change his ways.
Nope.
He wants you to know he had nothing to do with it.
He wants you to know that actually walls don't work.
He wants you to know that he was forced into doing this by Congress, even though Maorkis, his own guy, is saying there's an acute need for this at the border.
And all of this adds up to a complete failure of a presidency.
If this election is about Joe Biden, I don't think there's any way he can win it.
The only way he can win it is to make it about something else.
Obviously, their target right now is to make it about Donald Trump getting arrested a million times.
You know, again, will that work?
I don't know.
They've tried these things before and they don't seem, and they've missed before with these predictions.
But we did get the new unemployment rate, the new unemployment report today, Pat.
And it's so bizarre.
We're in such a weird time.
We added way more jobs than was expected.
336,000 jobs added in September.
This is above the prediction of 170,000.
So, I mean, almost double what they were expecting, economists were expecting.
Now, they consistently miss on these predictions, so we shouldn't be too shocked by that.
But again, it just shows that their efforts behind the scenes to try to raise rates to calm the economy, calm the process of all this hiring and wages going up and all these things aren't working.
Their efforts to stop the negative effects that they created by spending trillions of dollars and trying to fight inflation, it's not working very well.
And if you really look at the details of the report, you get a different picture because you could say, oh, wow, 336,000 jobs.
This sounds pretty great, right?
Like, I mean, I hate to say that a bunch of new people getting jobs is a bad thing.
I mean, I'm rooting for people to get jobs if they want them.
That's great.
But when you look at the details of the report, the huge job number was powered by the sectors we've been used to seeing outperform in recent months.
This is from the New York Times.
So this is what's fueled it.
This is what we've seen outperform in recent months.
Leisure and hospitality added 96,000 jobs, led by employment in bars and restaurants.
Now, look, we've all had jobs.
Most of us, Pat Gray being a radio star at like 14 years old, might be the exception.
But generally speaking, we've all had jobs doing leisure and hospitality work.
It's good, honest work.
There's nothing wrong with it.
And I have no doubt in my mind that people are drinking a lot more under Joe Biden.
So bars, I can see why you'd need a lot of employees at bars.
Yes.
But this is not an economy.
This is not our pushing into the future of the economy, right?
Yeah.
And then secondarily, it's government hiring, up 73,000 of these jobs.
73,000 of them.
That's government.
Those two categories just by themselves are the entire overperformance in the job market.
So I don't know.
Is this as positive as people are trying to make it out to be?
I would argue no.
I would argue no.
All right.
We got much more on this and other wonderful accomplishments from this administration coming up in just a minute.
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The amazing jobs report.
What was it?
360,000 new jobs added in September, I think it was.
366.
366.
Even better than I thought.
And yet, it's not good for interest rates and all that.
The Fed is saying.
Now, well, we need to cool down this economy a little bit.
So we need to raise rates again.
Weird.
It's kind of a weird situation to me.
Yeah, it is.
And the fact that they admit that.
Wait, the economy's too good.
Too many people are working.
Now, of course, does anyone actually believe that?
I mean, no one believes that the economy is too good right now.
That's not something that people actually want.
Oh, it's on fire and we need to cool it down.
Yeah.
No, I mean, look, the problem is not that it's too good, is that it's too bad when it comes to inflation.
Now, when you have an economy that has a high inflation, you're going to get, you know, you're going to get wages going up.
Now, the problem is they're not going up as fast as inflation.
So that's a problem, right?
That's not good for you.
Hey, my pay is going up.
My hourly pay is going up.
But at the same time, the price of eggs and milk and bread and housing and new cars and all the things that make up inflation are going up faster.
So that doesn't make people feel good.
Wages Can't Keep Up With Inflation00:03:46
They still remember the days back in 2019 when things were sanely priced.
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You put butter in Kexi cookies?
We put butter in them.
Yeah.
Really?
I never detected the slightest hint of butter.
I know, right?
I mean, they weigh four pounds each, but I had never.
There's also some sugar, you know?
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
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I thought it was all vitamins.
I know a lot of people think that.
How do you make these vitamins taste so good?
Yeah.
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And you can obtain those by going to kexi.com, K-E-K-S-I.com.
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They're delicious.
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But the thing is, it is staggering how much all of these goods and services have gone up.
I mean, butter is through the roof.
Sugar is through the flour.
Yeah, you think, why is flour going?
Well, I think that's partly Ukraine for one thing, but it's other factors as well.
And it's Biden's screw-ups that are causing the prices of food to skyrocket.
And, you know, they claim it's 7% or whatever.
It's way more than that.
It's been compounded yearly now.
And so from the time that he took office until now, I don't even know what the markup is, but it's huge.
Yeah.
It's huge.
We should go over that a little bit.
We should more because this is something that the left loves to do.
It's like inflation's going down.
What's your freaking problem, Peter?
Right.
Right.
Like, what do you mean?
That's not how this works.
No.
I mean, look, it's better than it going up.
Yeah.
When it's not 9%, it's better if it's 4%.
Yeah.
But the 4% is still an increase.
Yes, and it's an increase over previous increases.
We should go through this a little bit because this is something the media tries to over and over and over.
Manipulate you with.
They keep telling you, why are you complaining?
Do you believe these people?
They just keep complaining about the economy.
They don't understand that inflation is going down.
And, well, you know what?
Actually, the people understand a hell of a lot better than these economists in this situation.
They're the ones having to deal with this on a daily basis, not the people, you know, at Harvard who are giving us these reports telling us how wonderful things are.
Actual people have to live actual lives buying actual things.
And that's where the impact is felt.
So we'll get into that here in a second.
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Trump's Temporary Speaker Plan00:12:01
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Are you excited that Donald Trump has said he'd do it temporarily?
For 30, 60, or 90 days, if necessary?
30, 60, or 90.
30?
Up to 90.
Up to 90 days.
I think as a host of a conservative talk show, we are legally required to discuss Donald Trump as a House Speaker.
Like whether he wants it or not, we have to always, it always has to be brought up and then we always have to talk about it.
And every other time it's been brought up, it seemed like such a ridiculous suggestion.
You know, look, Donald Trump is a lot of things.
A process guy.
He's not.
He is not.
This is not his specialty.
You know, he's just not the guy.
He doesn't, he doesn't bother with all of these little details of how these laws are made and pushed through.
This is not what he does.
We'll do that.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not his thing.
He's much more of a big picture guy, as we all know.
But of course, he is, on the other hand, somebody who does seem to turn the Republican Party from a bunch of different factions into one opinion with his.
And they all seem to listen to him.
They all seem to be scared of him.
You know, that's just the way it is.
So in a way, the speaker really needs to have that.
You need to have someone who feels like you're going to have consequences if you screw up.
And I think Donald Trump would certainly bring that to the table.
I think you could argue, well, why would he want to do this?
What is the irons in the fire right now?
Yeah, he's got a lot going on.
Yeah.
Although I did think of this.
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, Pat, if you see this differently, but in a way, it's almost a really inexpensive campaign.
He'd be on TV all the time.
He'd be in the middle of every news story, even more than he is now.
And he wouldn't have to go to all these states.
He wouldn't have to do all this travel.
He wouldn't have to spend all this money.
He'd kind of just be able to sit back and they have to cover everything that he's doing.
And so I can see it from that perspective as like an interesting thing.
Obviously, could it go badly?
Sure, but he has a way of talking his way out of that stuff.
You know what would be the coolest part of it, though, is if he were the Speaker of the House during the State of the Union address by Joe Biden.
So he's seated directly behind Biden during Biden's speech to the nation.
Yeah.
That would be fun.
I didn't think of that.
Would that be?
Oh, the faces, the faces he'd make.
He'd bring props.
Yeah.
I mean, that would be a, I will say if he should do it at least for that week.
Yes, yes, he should.
Just for that.
I will say that would be amazing.
They should carve that out.
No matter what, he's the speaker of the house that week.
I like that.
Like, if you have a speaker, like, let's say, I don't know, Jim Jordan gets it or Steve Scalise gets it.
They should, because what they do when they become Speaker of the House is they submit a list of people that they would want to be speaker if something happens to them, if they're incapacitated in some way.
You need a temporary person.
That's why it was at McHenry is currently the speaker or the interim speaker.
He was the secretive speaker pro tem.
Right.
So they don't tell anybody who that is, but there's a list of people.
Hey, go to this person first, go to this person after this.
And so he's the guy that's up there now.
But if you were to put Donald Trump at the top of that list, and then just like the Speaker of the House takes a vacation, like, you know, Scalise or whatever just goes overseas for the day.
Oh, we need a backup.
Who is it?
First name, Donald Trump.
Come on up for the speech.
That would be hilarious.
So great.
Actually, what they should do is put Taylor Swift back there that everyone would watch.
That's that.
She's too busy screwing up the NFL, though.
Yes.
She screwed up politics already.
I mean, look, I know people have different opinions in this.
She screwed up music before that.
I'm not a huge fan.
But that's me.
She looks like a cat.
We've discussed that earlier this week.
Again, no knock on her.
I mean, a lot of people think cats are.
There's adorable cats.
Adorable cats.
People have posters of cats hanging in their house.
It's not the knock.
It's just, you know, she's 78% feline.
It's not really.
I mean, you could do it with a DNA test or we could just look.
The bottom line is, that's just my opinion of her.
But if we put her behind there, then no one would pay attention to anything Biden said, which also might be the case if Trump was back there, which might not be the best thing.
Because as we were talking about with the economy, it's good when people are talking about Joe Biden.
Yes.
That is good.
It's bad when people are talking about anything other than Joe Biden because Joe Biden has been a catastrophe.
We were talking about this before, Pat, on the economy, and we were going to talk about inflation a little bit more.
And there's a story that came out in the, I think it was the Wall Street Journal earlier this week.
Let's see if I can find it real quick.
But they were talking about inflation.
And like, it shouldn't be that big of a situation to understand, but the media has done such a good job at hiding why this is bad.
Yeah.
Everyone understands prices going up are bad.
But what people don't understand in the media is essentially there's a view by economists that you can just have this inflation go up by a lower percentage from year to year, and people should turn around and be happy.
Hey, this is getting under control.
It's coming down.
That's good.
And it is better than the worst.
But that is Joe Biden's argument on so many topics.
Hey, we're better than the worst you've ever seen.
And by the way, we're also responsible for the worst you've ever seen.
And that's not a good argument.
Gas prices, another example of that.
The border, another example of that.
Except that they don't even have that on the border because it's worse.
Last month was, I believe, the worst on record.
Yeah.
But in six months from now, there's a good chance it comes down by 10%.
And then they're on there bragging about it again.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, this is that they do all the time.
The headline from the Wall Street Journal, why consumers are mad about inflation, even though it has fallen.
And it's true because people don't realize that, or the media is at least assuming that the average person doesn't realize how this statistic works.
So like if you start out with something that costs $100 and you have a year where it goes up, all sorts of concerns, it goes up 30%.
So whatever you were buying before, this basket of stuff is now goes from $100 to $130.
And you freak out, right?
$130 for this crap?
I was buying this for $100 just last year.
Normal thing for people to do.
Prices are going way up.
$130 for the same thing I spent $100 on before.
I'm very angry about that, right?
And then next year, let's say inflation only goes for, it goes from 30% down to 10%.
Okay.
What does that mean?
That means that it doesn't go down to $110, right?
It goes to $143.
So now you're spending $143 on the same thing that you remember spending $100 on.
And they're telling you, well, it's gone down from 30 to 10%.
How are you not happy, you peasant?
And it's like, well, we're not happy because we were mad at $130.
And now we're even more mad at $143.
And then it goes down, you know, the next year it goes, oh, well, now it's only 5% inflation.
Well, now I'm paying $150 for the same thing that I paid $100 for.
And that is why they can't turn this narrative around.
What you would want is prices to go down.
If they started approaching $110, right?
If they were at $110, $115, people might say, well, I paid $130 last year.
Now I'm paying $115.
Sure, it's still higher than the $100 we started with, but it's not that bad.
You would get that reaction.
You kind of got that reaction with gas prices because gas prices did follow that narrative.
It went up to $5, came down to four, and everyone's like, hallelujah.
You're like, well, wait a minute.
You're paying $190 when Trump left office.
But now in this situation, it's, of course, creeping back up to four.
I mean, it's, I don't know what the average national price is.
I don't know if you know off the top of your head, but it's four bucks here in Texas.
It's $7 plus in Gavin Newsom's California, which he blames only partially on himself, which I guess is the new way we excuse things.
It's only partially my fault.
It used to be that people would say, it's actually not my fault.
Here are the reasons.
He's just like, well, I mean, sure, two-thirds of it are my fault, but the other third isn't me.
Whatever.
But, you know, prices are really, really high once again when it comes to gas.
Prices have been going up.
And now we're starting to see the other side of this where prices get so high and rates are so high.
You're going to, you're looking at what could be a housing crash or housing crisis.
And I was talking to a friend of mine who's a real estate agent the other day, and he said, he works in a nice town in Texas, and they have it's a place where people want to move.
And he said, a year ago, they sold 22 houses in this town, 22 houses in a month.
Two months ago, they sold 12.
One month ago, they sold nine.
And last month, they sold three.
So year to year is 22 to 3.
Wow.
That's a big slowdown.
Yeah.
And you look at the details of this.
How could you move?
If you bought a house in the period before, let's say 2021, you're looking at yourself, unless you absolutely have to move.
You're saying, I have this mortgage rate set where it is at 3% or something.
If I move, I'm going to be paying 7%.
So I can move for the same price into half the house.
Why would I do that?
I'm going to stay here and guard this mortgage as if it's one of my children.
I will never let it go.
I will never move.
I will stay here forever.
And then you have a situation where on the other side, people are saying, well, this house price is maybe okay, but when you factor in the interest rate, the payment's so high, it seems way out of my price range.
So I don't want to do anything.
And so neither side of the transaction wants to actually move forward.
That seems to be a problem.
It is a problem.
And what do they want to do after today's report?
Raise rates.
Yep.
Exactly right.
That's going to be great.
Exactly right.
What could possibly go wrong, Pat?
And according to this, the average price of gas in the U.S. from U.S. retail gas price is currently at $396.
$396.
That's down from $4 last week, supposedly, but up from $377 a year ago.
And just to give you a sense of what that means, I'm looking at the chart going back to 1992.
It's basically the highest it has ever been with the exception of the blip in 2022, the summer of 22, where it hit $4.96.
That little mountain is the only thing standing above where we are right at this second.
Gas Prices Hit Summer Highs00:02:13
And that's not a story that the media is covering.
No.
They're not saying, oh my gosh, the prices are so high.
They're still talking about how they're lower than the one-month period or two-month period back last summer when it was even higher.
But like, if you're a presidential candidate and your argument to people is, hey, remember we did a really terrible job before and prices went really out of control.
Well, since then, it's slightly better, but still tied for the worst of all time from before I went into office.
Like, that's not an argument you want to make.
It doesn't seem like it.
You'd kind of run from that one, right?
You don't put that one on your resume.
No.
Yet it's one of the lead arguments for Bidenomics.
It's incredible.
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Wow.
We're just trying to figure out the situation with the weird flip-flopping Democrats.
Of course, Republicans have done their share of flip-flopping as well, but it's really amazing when you sit back and watch the positions of Democrats today who we were just talking about the fact that Harry Reid used to be a big hawk on the border.
Yeah.
Was really pissed off that illegals were flowing across the border back in the 90s and even into the early 2000s.
And then, of course, he and his whole party completely changed.
Switched.
They don't care about the border at all anymore.
No.
It's fine when millions cross the border illegally every year.
Yeah, their justification back then was labor-related.
They were protecting unions, essentially.
Yes.
Because that was the thing that mattered that day.
And then all of a sudden it was, well, we can't be mean to people who look differently or whatever their justification is for letting people flow across the border.
Right.
Sanctuary City, Sanctuary City, Sanctuary City.
And so they all changed.
They thought that was going to increase their power base because they figured all these people are going to vote for them now.
Yep.
Because they're friendly to them.
And even maybe a weirder situation is the Warhawk deal.
How to gosh, that is.
Democrats become Warhawks.
That is really bizarre.
Our entire lives, it's been the opposite where they all said every war they came up with that was debated, they would always be.
They were opposed to it.
Yeah, you know, sometimes they'd eventually, like they voted for the Iraq war, but they always turned on it quickly.
They acted as if things were happening there that weren't.
They said they didn't want to be reminded that they voted for the Iraq war.
No, no, they ran from it like crazy.
Yes.
And now they are.
Like, I mean, and it's not just the politicians.
This was so bizarre about it.
You look at like the polling on this, the people who approve the funding for Ukraine, it's like it's Democrats or something like 70% approval.
And it's like, wait a minute, what?
Why?
Wait, I remember, you know, go back to the Reagan era if you want.
I remember the conservatives being the ones that were against Russia.
The Soviet Union at the time, left-wing senators were visiting them.
I mean, this was vacation.
Bernie Sanders did his honeymoon.
Honeymoon.
In the Soviet Union.
And now it's like, oh, we have to fund the Ukraine war.
It's the most important thing ever.
And it's like, how does this happen?
You realize when you really think about it that they in Washington are not like us.
Like, I feel like we make decisions and we stick with them unless there's new evidence that changes our mind, right?
Like, that's how you're supposed.
I thought that's how you're supposed to operate.
For them, it just seems to be, well, what's in front of me at this moment?
Exactly.
What did Trump say?
Oh, let's do the opposite.
Like, that is seemingly how all decisions are made these days.
That's how deep it is.
Democrat senator, in fact, Michael Bennett of Colorado, has said he'll force a government shutdown to secure more Ukraine aid.
I mean, that's how bad it is.
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You know, sometimes I wonder, is it just me?
Am I the only one that is so hateful that I don't think we should be this heavily involved with Ukraine?
Oh, you.
Did you want all Ukrainians to die?
Yeah, and I love Vladimir Putin.
Can tell.
Yeah, I saw on your car out there, that big I loved Brett Vladimir Putin bumper sticker.
And the hammer and sickle underneath it.
Yes, I saw that.
That's you, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I hooked up speakers on my car that blare the Soviet national anthem wherever I go.
Which is where it's not even the anthem they're using anymore.
No, I know.
You just want the return to those days.
Yes.
You know?
Yes.
That's my hope.
So I don't know.
We'll talk about some of the possibilities for Speaker of the House and what their plans for Ukraine would be.
Get into that in just a minute.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn.
Stu, we haven't really had a chance to talk about this this week together, but were you as surprised as I was that they removed Kevin McCarthy as quickly and easily as they did?
Yeah.
Kind of blew me away.
It was interesting.
And, you know, I have some concerns about removing removing McCarthy.
Not because I like McCarthy per se, but I'm worried about who might replace him?
Yeah, I'm worried about how this plays out because, you know, there's a few different ways it can.
And what I want going into this is a plan.
A plan that has a good chance of success.
I was talking about this with Glenn yesterday, and he looked at me with these glazed over eyes as if he had no idea what I was speaking about.
But let me attempt it with you here.
All right.
Okay.
It's fourth and eight, and you're at your own 25-yard line.
Yes.
Most of the coaches in that situation want to punt.
But a few people, let's say Matt Gates, Coach Gates, is like, hey, let's go for it.
Now, you look at the analytics.
Maybe there's some argument to go for it here.
It's a little risky.
I'd like to see the analytics to say go for it on fourth and eight from your own 25.
I want to see those analytics.
There are some analytics that say go for it a lot more than you'd think.
So maybe that's who knows.
But it's certainly an interesting call.
Yes.
So now there's this big fight on the sidelines, right?
Yeah.
And Coach Gates wins.
They're going to go for it.
All right.
Uh-huh.
Now, Coach Gates seems to be taking a victory lap at this point, which is a little early because we have not actually had the play yet to see if we succeed at the fourth and eight.
That's when you celebrate the decision rate if it works.
And like, I'd argue, you know, we're getting to this in a second, but like someone like Jim Jordan is, you've converted the fourth and eight, right?
Like, I think that's actually an improvement.
For sure.
Right.
Like, to me, for sure.
A big improvement?
Yes.
I'm excited about that one.
Steve Scalise, somewhat of an improvement.
Maybe an improvement.
We just saw that Scalise has a, I think it was 54% recorded Freedom Record.
Freedom Works.
Freedom Works.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's not good.
That's not good.
Again, that's really not good.
You should be at least in the 90s.
Yes, I would hope so.
And my argument here is.
Like Chip Roy's 100.
100%.
Like if Chip Roy, like if you had a path to get Chip Roy to be Speaker of the House.
Great.
Home run.
I mean, I hate to take it to another sport, but that's a home run.
Like, I'd be thrilled with that.
Because Jim Jordan's either at 94 or 96.
Yeah.
Okay.
And he's great.
He's awesome.
The number one thing you have to do in this situation is not cheer yourself for convincing the coaching staff to go for it at fourth and eight.
Number one, you have to have a really good play.
You better have a play that's going to get eight yards.
Yeah.
And number two, you don't celebrate it until you've actually converted the fourth down.
Then it's okay to say, yes, we did it.
A great choice.
So I'm concerned about this.
If you think about the way that this could play out, you have situation, let's say situation one, which is you get all Republicans aligned again, like they did with McCarthy, and you push through somebody like Jim Jordan, like Steve Scalise, and you'll get a roughly similar result.
I think with Jordan, it's an improvement.
But again, they're still in a situation where they're only one-third of this process, right?
Like there's still just the House.
You don't have the Senate.
You don't have the presidency.
There's a high limitation as to what Jordan can actually accomplish with this job.
It's very limited.
So even if you get Jim Jordan, who I think from a perspective of ideology and approach, I think would be a vast improvement.
He's still very limited into how much he can do in this role.
So I think what you get there is a similar result.
You'll probably get something similar to what you got with McCarthy.
Maybe a little improved, maybe a little bit worse.
Maybe Scalise is a little worse.
I don't know.
But you're generally going to be in the same area.
That's result number one.
The next idea is, let's say these eight people who would not vote for McCarthy, they can't get them on board with somebody other than Jordan that they can all agree on.
So what they have to do is try to pull in a few Democrats into that vote.
Now, that undoubtedly is going to get you a worse result than what we have because you're getting Democrats to come in and agree to go along with this.
That's option number two.
And that option is worse.
So right now you have similar or worse.
Next up is a situation where both extremes, the AOC wing of the party, the Democrats, and the Matt Gates wing of the Republicans, hate whoever they're nominating, but the middle agrees, right?
You get all the moderates from both sides coming together and saying, you know what, we'll put that person up because they're going to be like if they were to put up, I don't know, someone in the realm in the Joe Manchin or Mitt Romney, right?
Like, again, I know they're senators, but like some, the equivalent of that person in the middle, could you get a bunch of Republicans and a bunch of Democrats to come together and say, look, this is our, the establishment types, this is our, this is important.
We must move this along.
Blah, We need someone who can bring us together, blah, And they get that person through.
Well, that person, again, you're talking about someone who's, this is going to be much worse than what we have now.
And then the fourth option, because you already have similar, worse, or much worse.
The last option is the Democrats unite and they are able to pick off four or five moderate Republicans, whoever you think the four or five worst Republicans are in that caucus.
And they pick off four or five of them to join with them on their nomination.
Not necessarily of Hakeem Jeffries.
I don't think that would ever happen.
But someone that the Democrats say, you know what, this is going to be better than we're ever going to get from a Republican House.
Let's go with it.
We'll take five moderates and we'll push that guy through with almost no Republican support.
And then you're in a level of catastrophe, right?
That's a catastrophic result.
So when your four options are similar, worse, much worse, and catastrophic, do you go for it on fourth and eight?
Maybe not.
No.
And I have no defense of McCarthy as a speaker, really.
I'm not impressed with him.
The only argument you can make for him is there's almost nothing he can do in this role.
The only thing he can do, he's not going to get some massive passing, a spending cut passed.
It's not going to happen.
He's got to get through the Democratic Senate and Joe Biden.
It's not going to happen.
We could all come up with this, you know, this idea that he's going to pass this thing that's going to make us all happy.
It is not going to occur.
All he can do is get certain concessions.
And by the way, the thing he passed, which I was not happy with, did pull out the Ukraine funding.
Yes.
Now, they talked about a special deal maybe being cut, that it would come back later.
My guess is that probably is accurate.
Plus, I will say that he promised 98% of the budget when this would happen, when they had to do the continuing resolutions, he would go for 98% of spending.
That's what he promised back in January.
He actually went further than that and went to 92% of what we were spending.
So we actually did more than he promised them to do in January, which is interesting.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
I don't think there's no defense of McCarthy here.
I'm not particularly won over by it.
I think we could do better.
Yeah, I do too.
The question is the risk is there.
And so, you know, again, you make a cost-benefit analysis when you make this decision.
And if you think the risk is worth it, okay, go for it.
Like if what you had beforehand was Jim Jordan and you knew you could get him through, I think this would be a really, I'd be completely behind this deal.
And I would not be worried about it.
But obviously that had not occurred.
You know, I think it's possible that Gates and Jordan talked beforehand and said, hey, I'll support you.
But I don't think, I don't know.
Can Jordan get through the moderate side of this caucus?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't know.
I'll be surprised.
If he can, I really hope he can.
I really hope he can.
And I don't think it's impossible.
But I wouldn't say if you would have asked, if you would have asked some Washington expert five years ago whether Jim Jordan could become Speaker of the House, they would have told you no way.
Yeah.
And he had no choice.
I mean, he was not interested in the job even.
Yeah.
Because the last time this was even a question, he's like, no, I'm not.
No.
It wasn't my house.
He was nominated several times.
He didn't even want to become.
And again, this is, even if you love Jordan, you're also picking someone who voted for McCarthy.
Jordan's Unexpected Speaker Bid00:15:13
Right.
True.
Right?
Yes.
And I think there's an argument to be made that that's like, look, I think it can be an improvement.
But if the argument is, well, you don't want someone who works with Democrats, you have to point out that these eight Republicans worked with Democrats to get McCarthy tossed.
Like, that's what they did.
You know, and I look, I'm okay with the move if you can improve the situation.
But this is, as we talked about last hour, yet another thing that takes us away from talking about Joe Biden and what has happened with Joe Biden.
Right.
And that does make me nervous.
That is true.
Look, get Jordan through.
And I still don't know that the risk would have been worth it because just because you go for it on fourth and eight from your own 25 and make it doesn't make it the right move.
Right.
There's too much risk associated with that move.
But if you make it, at least we can all celebrate a good thing.
And I hope that's where this turns out.
And I mean, he's on board with stopping the ridiculous spending on Ukraine.
He was asked by Manu Raju from CNN, are you willing to move forward with an aid package to Ukraine if you become speaker?
And Jordan responded, I'm against that.
At some point, we're going to have to deal with this appropriations process in the right way.
We're going to try to do that in the next 41 days.
The most pressing issue on Americans' mind is not Ukraine.
It's the border situation and it's crime on the streets.
I agree with that.
I mean, that's exactly right.
All polling shows that as well, by the way, if you want to look at polling, when you talk about priorities, things that matter to Americans are the economy.
Number one, border is right up there.
You know, that is what they're concerned about.
And so considering you happen to have the two things that Americans are most concerned about as obvious disasters from the Biden administration, you'd think that would be the focus.
Those two things can get you through an election.
Now, look, the left is going to try to bring up abortion, which isn't nearly as high a priority when it comes to polling of American citizens, including Republican primary voters.
I don't agree with that priority arrangement, but it is important to note that that's where it is.
So Democrats are going to try to pull things like this.
They're going to say, you know, Donald Trump is mean and he says mean things to people.
He calls them fat and stuff.
And then that's so you shouldn't vote for him.
And number two, hey, abortion, they're going to take your right away to kill your kid.
And look, those are really powerful arguments.
I can't.
Powerful.
Powerful arguments that really you should be making massive decisions on the country's future based on both of those things.
The protection of your right to murder children.
And of course, also Donald Trump is mean.
Those two things are vitally important to our country's future.
But they're not that high on people's priority lists on either side.
It's just that right now, there's a little bit of a snapback from Roe versus Wade being overturned.
And they have been able to win some of these elections on smaller scales and states.
And they see this as their only path to success.
That's because Republicans allow them to control the narrative.
And they're terrible at marketing themselves.
Terrible at it.
This is not hard.
And they're scared.
It's not hard.
They're scared.
They are scared.
They see a couple people losing elections.
Like you lose an election in a red state over abortion, and they think that they have to run from it.
I mean, look at the way that Donald Trump talks about it.
This is a guy who has arguably the best record of any president on pro-life issues.
Why?
Because he was able to put into motion overturning of Roe versus Wade.
Yes, you can make the argument that he just is picking off a list from the Federalist Society, and there's tons of validity to that argument.
But so what?
He actually did it.
Nobody else has.
And nobody else did it.
And look, do I think Ted Cruz would have picked good justices that would have, yes, I do think he would have been fine in that respect.
He would have known all these people.
Donald Trump did what he promised to do when it came to overturning Roe versus Wig.
He got that done.
And we've admitted a thousand times on the air, neither one of us ever thought we'd see the day.
That's for sure.
So that record is really strong from a pro-life perspective.
But now he's saying, you know, look, a heartbeat bill is a major mistake.
I can't agree with that.
I won't agree with it.
I don't care who says it.
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10 seconds station id we're just uh watching the situation with george santos Still in office, still a congressman.
Despite the fact he absolutely lied.
He literally lied about everything.
About everything.
And he's not even close to our worst congressman.
Maybe even George Santos.
I don't know.
It's funny because, first of all, New York has been bringing us some real gems lately.
Yeah.
You know, also Bowman is from there.
Oh, wow.
The guy who pulled the fire alarm the other day.
And what's funny about this is like, number one, if you're George Santos, you don't get to make fun of other people.
Like, that's not one of the things you're allowed to do.
Right.
But number two, he's making these videos about Bowman and the fire alarm.
Like, if you're being dunked on by George Santos, you should just stop.
The biggest liar in the history of American politics.
Remove yourself immediately from Congress if you're getting dunked on successfully, by the way, by George Santos.
Embarrassing.
What a weird time we live in.
And you know what?
If we don't clean out our own house, how can you expect to clean out the Democrats who need to be cleaned?
I mean, let's please take care of our dirty laundry, George Santos being among that laundry, but also Mitch McConnell in the Senate.
Yeah, we've got to do something about that.
It should be gone.
Get out.
He should be gone.
The man is hardly.
I don't wish anything bad for him, but he's got massive health problems and he won't even discuss what it is.
He gets indignant if you ask him about it.
Are you kidding me?
You're the Senate minority or yeah, minority leader.
Well, what do you mean?
We have no right to know about your health situation?
Well, we know what it is, Pat.
It was dehydration.
Dehydrate.
Right.
He didn't have enough Gatorade that day.
That's right.
Dehydration.
That's what they actually tried to do.
Lightheadedness.
Don't forget the lightheadedness situation.
And I think those things go hand in hand a little bit.
When I get lightheaded, the same thing happens.
Oh, yeah.
I finally pulled out of it.
Yeah, that happened right then.
I don't know if you even realized that.
Yeah, you just.
Yeah, I got a little sorry.
I was a little lightheaded there, and I haven't had a drink of water for a while.
I apologize to hundreds and hundreds of radio stations who thought they just lost the feed.
I realized that halfway through your pause, and I was like, ah.
But it's true.
I mean, that's what McConnell did.
And look, what's interesting about, I don't know, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the people that I heard talk about that incident on the conservative side, I know I was there, said he needs, this is ridiculous.
Just like we said about John Fetterman and Joe Biden and Diane Feinstein.
He needs to be out.
Yes.
This is over.
Yes.
Get him out of office.
I don't want someone who can't get through a sentence as the leader of the Senate for the Republicans.
I've never seen anybody with a double standard on this.
I don't know anybody who says, no, leave Mitch McConnell alone.
He belongs right where he is.
Have you ever heard anybody defending that?
I haven't.
Santos, and by the way, they were protected in the McConnell situation because McConnell changed the law to make it so Republicans got to nominate the next senator because they have a Democratic governor.
And then the Democratic governor picks from, I think, a list of three that the Republicans give him.
The Santos situation is more complicated because they only have a four-seat majority, and they could very well lose that district in the next election because it's not a bright red district.
It's a purple district.
So that one's a tougher one because it's so tight.
I can understand why they're just like shrugging their shoulders and saying there's nothing we can do right now, but they'll try to take him out in the primary.
That seems to be their approach with Santos.
Oof.
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Pat and Stu for Glenn today.
Coming up is Joe Biden's major speech on convincing America that we got to continue the unlimited aid for an unlimited period of time to Ukraine.
Typical, you know, you do this all the time, Pat.
You exaggerate.
And I'm going to call you out on it.
Okay, here you do it.
All right.
There are limits on what we can.
Yes.
Yes, there are.
Oh, they've been very clear about this.
As much as it takes for as long as it takes.
So.
Okay.
So after the job is finally done, then we'll stop.
Well, after the rebuild country.
Once we rebuild everything back to like, let's say we just make it into a giant Disneyland.
Once that's done.
Then we'll see.
Well, we need to keep the maintenance going, obviously.
But I mean, most of the spending will be gone by then.
After we spend, you know, $110 trillion on it.
Okay.
Once we get to that number, I think $110 trillion.
$110 trillion.
You think maybe the number.
Right.
I do think it's around that number, apparently.
I think it is.
Actually, that might not be enough because it's going to go on forever, as they've told us.
And I just, I know.
I just want it to stop now.
I just want it to stop.
And I don't know where conservatives are necessarily on this.
I think a lot of us are fed up with this, with the never-ending wars and our never-ending intervention into everybody else's wars and nation building.
And I just, I want it to stop.
And maybe that's too much to ask.
I don't know.
Maybe we're too far down that road now.
Maybe we're so far from the plan, the original plan the founding fathers laid out for us to stay out of everybody else's mess.
Let Europe do Europe and we'll just watch from here on the sidelines.
But we're, you know, we don't do that and haven't done that for a long, long time.
But I want to get back to that.
If we're attacked, then by golly, yes, let's put the hammer down on whoever it is that attacked us and then let's come back home.
But this never-ending stuff, this as long as it takes, as much as it takes for a nation, and you're going to have a hard time making the point, I think, that this is in the best interest of America.
And they'll, of course, say that it won't stop with Ukraine.
They're going to attack other NATO countries and blah, I think the deeper we get into this, the bigger the opportunity is for us to send troops there.
And I just, I just fear that this ends with boots on the ground.
I think there's a real possibility of that.
And the reason you think that is because they set down 15 red lines already that we've crossed.
Right.
Right.
The tanks crossed that line.
Fighter jets crossed that line.
The only thing in that speech that he hasn't done are the battle trains.
And I don't know when he's going to send the battle trains into Ukraine.
When that happens, that's World War III.
I got to get one of these battle trains.
They just sound awesome.
Because I know you have a real affinity for trains in general.
No, I really love the battle trains.
Oh, God.
Who thought we could waste more money on trains in this world?
I don't know.
It's amazing.
But it's funny because you look at that and you say, okay, because I listened to a little bit of Mike Pence yesterday with Megan Kelly.
He did an interview.
He's such a warmonger.
He really is making the affirmative case.
We need to be doing this.
And he and Nikki Haley are driving me out of my mind.
I know.
And this is really, this is sort of new for you.
I mean, new over the past decade and a half.
I mean, it's not new, new.
Yes.
You would have, I think, there was a time in the early 2000s, I would have been, yeah, let's do this.
We need that.
Maybe been more aggressive.
And you've changed a lot on that.
And, you know, when you change your opinion, as you have done, you explain why and what information has decided to change.
Unlike our politicians who just whimsically go from one side to the other, 20-year wars tend to wear on me a bit.
Yeah.
You know?
Really?
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Yeah.
In what way?
Have you ever thought about that?
In that, especially then, after you've spent 20 years dealing with that situation, and then you just throw it away at the end and give it back to the enemy.
That sounds fun.
You really have sort of a, I'm a little resistant to that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like I look at this and I say, okay, look, if I'm, if I'm a Ukrainian citizen, I am absolutely advocating for us to do, if I'm in Ukraine, to do everything you can to push back the Russian army.
I don't want to give one freaking inch of territory, including Crimea, to the Russians.
I, as a Ukrainian, if I were a Ukrainian, would be saying a lot of the things that you hear from more hawkish opinions of the United States.
But I would ask Ukrainian.
Yeah, I would ask all the time.
the Americans to give me stuff.
100%.
Look, they are literally fighting for their lives there.
They are fighting for their country, their sovereignty.
And bless them, I wish them the best.
I wish them the best too.
It's just the question is whether we should be involved in it, at least at this scale.
Right?
Like, you could argue, hey, can we help out in some humanitarian way?
There's some kid who's starving and we need to get him some food.
Hey, there's a lot of charities doing a lot of that work and it's good work.
I know people who've gone to the border of Poland and Ukraine and have fought, not fought in the battle, but fought to be able to supply these people with food.
And like, you're, look, it's a scary place to be.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that instinct.
I think it should be done mostly by charities.
Like, that's just my personal opinion.
But if there was an argument being made, let's be honest about it.
We spend money on stuff all the time.
If there was an argument being made, look, we just need to give humanitarian aid to the people affected by this war.
I doubt there'd be much pushback.
I think the pushback here is the argument that we might get pulled into this.
And you got to depend on Joe Biden and his magical competence to be able to keep us out of that situation.
And I have no faith in that.
I don't see how you could have faith in that.
How could anybody put their trust into this brain-dead president?
I don't understand it.
I really don't understand.
And I don't understand how he's so different on this particular situation than any other in the past.
And yet they all are.
Why?
Explain that to the American people.
It's hard.
And the risk is so high, right?
Very high.
We're talking about the number two or number three, I guess, maybe behind China, superpower, or elevated power, certainly one of the main countries you'd worry about in a nuclear conflict.
The one, the country with, let's say it plainly here, the most nuclear weapons of any country, including us in the world.
Right.
Okay.
With a leader who is at some level unstable, who made a decision here, which is erratic at best to go in in the first place, completely misjudged what was going to happen.
Right.
And while he's been able to gain some territory, actually over the past few months, he's lost a little bit, not gained any.
He's in a position where he absolutely cannot give up on this war because he will, you know, he's put too much in it.
He's looking really bad now.
Look really bad and likely, you know, be thrown out of office in some sort of coup if he gets overturned.
Maybe or maybe not, but he does not see this as something he can give in to.
He can't just be like, ah, you know what?
Ukraine's been tougher than I thought.
Let's just back off.
That's not going to happen.
Like, it's possible they could come up with some sort of settlement where maybe they maintain most of the territory that they have.
And honestly, that's what we should be pushing for behind the scenes.
Again, if I'm in Ukraine, I don't like that answer.
But as America, prioritizing the avoidance of World War III is what I want.
Yeah.
And they don't seem to be interested in that at all.
Now, there are many ways you can handle this.
We've talked about most of them before.
And I'm not against every single intervention.
You know, like, I think if there's a way to protect someone on the other end of a genocide that we can do inexpensively and without elevating this to World War III, I think it's worth looking into.
I'll give you an example of this.
The Rwandan genocide is an example of this.
You've got a million people being murdered in a very short period of time, largely by machetes, right?
Yeah.
This is not a situation.
They're not going to start throwing their machetes at us from Rwanda, right?
Like it's not something that can escalate into World War III.
It's not something that necessarily we have to be there for an endless amount of time.
And it's something that we could do really cheaply.
Like you put a bunch of guys in there with AK-47s.
You could have saved a million lives.
You could have saved a million lives.
Yeah, we turned a blind eye to that and we're like, meh.
Our calculation on that by President Bill Clinton was, eh, eh, you know, let's all fly into the airport.
I won't get it, I won't even leave the tarmac and then I'll take off again because we put no value in the lives of the Tutsis versus the Hutus in that particular battle.
We didn't care.
And I, you know, I think the argument that would be made by many people would be that we didn't care because it was far away and it didn't affect us.
Well, you know, like there's a situation that you can at least make the argument.
A lot of libertarians would say, look, you stay out of it no matter what.
I can respect that ideological line, if that is your ideological line.
But that is a case where I think there's a sensible choice for us to be involved.
Here is a choice where, look, if you want to be involved in some capacity, you can take sides in this.
I think there's a clear, look, Ukraine is incredibly corrupt.
I don't look at them as these golden children, especially their government.
I don't either.
They were invaded by a foreign power in a way that is completely wrong in my view.
And I don't want, I didn't want Vladimir Putin to win this battle.
I want him to lose.
My preference would be he loses every inch of this territory, including Crimea, which we should have said back in 2014 when they took it.
But the president of the United States at that time, Barack Obama, was like, eh.
So we shrugged our shoulders at that one.
And so I want him to lose.
I want him to go back.
I want him to feel like he should never do this again.
But that is different.
It can exist at the same time by not as an opinion of not wanting your country to be involved in World War III.
And I look, to be clear, if we were in a situation where we maybe we would oppose if Joe Biden invaded Canada.
Right now, and he was just like, we got to get that.
We got to get the Rogers Center.
The Blue Jays have got to be part of this country.
It's insane we have one team up there.
We've got to get that.
We're invading.
We're taking over Toronto.
Plus, they own about 90% of the world supply of maple syrup.
Right.
We've got to have it.
And if he went in there and he thought he was going to take over the country in a few days and it failed, we might be critical of him for this is a bad move.
We might think it was an unjust war on our behalf, right?
But at the end of the day, if Russia was funding the Canadian military with enough crap to kill thousands of our soldiers in that war.
We'd be pissed.
We'd be pissed.
And we would be on the air, I guarantee you, arguing that we should be doing a hell of a lot more to not hold just Canada responsible for what's going on, but also Russia.
We'd also be saying, Vlad, do you understand that they're hoarding the world supply of maple syrup?
Yeah.
Do you know that?
Yeah.
And are you aware?
We're trying to bring justice to this planet.
Yeah.
You know, they have.
Why are you standing in our way?
They have also almost the entire world supply of Mazdas.
Now, we have Mazdas, but they have Mazdas there.
Wow.
That's how they say it.
Mazda.
It's not Mazda.
It's Mazda.
Where else will we get Mazdas from?
No one else calls them Mazdas.
Where are we going to get the Mazdas?
As long as we're invading countries for stupid things like that.
Yeah.
We need to invade the UK as well because of the Jaguar thing.
Oh, yeah.
Jaguars.
They're not Jaguars.
They're Jaguars.
You'd think it is their language.
Maybe they have the right to do it.
Yeah, we perfected.
We perfected.
We came along and we helped.
We helped the situation.
We did.
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Your Blue Jays.
Yeah.
Eliminated from the baseball playoffs.
It's stupid.
Sad.
Astro's still in it.
Astros are in it.
Astro's still in it.
The Rangers are in it, which are a big team around here in Dallas.
But I make this appeal, not because my team loses two games in a row every time this happens.
It's really not the reason.
That's not the reason.
It's not the reason.
I think it hurts more because my favorite team lost in two games again and scored one run over two games.
Yeah.
But like, here's the thing.
It's 162-game season.
Yeah.
I lived and died with them winning and losing in the last couple months to see if they would get into the playoffs.
It was a big deal.
I spent a lot of time.
I care about it.
I love sports.
I love the Blue Jays.
I know it's bizarre.
I'm the only American Blue Jays fan.
But like, you play 162 games and then you have a three-game series.
Like, baseball is a long-term sport, not a short-term.
It shouldn't be three.
At the very least, it should be five.
In my argument, it should be seven.
I mean, that's what it should be.
That's the best way to do a baseball series because you have to see at least usually four starting pitchers, right?
Sometimes three, but you can get away with three.
But the whole long season is about having partially five good pitchers to start games.
And then you go into the playoffs and you're like, you only need two now.
Like, it's dumb.
And so, and I'll make this argument for the Rays, who I am not a fan of.
They're rivals of the Blue Jays.
They won, what, 98 games this year and they're gone in two days?
99 games.
They won 99 games.
They were the second best record in the AL.
And what?
And three people showed up for the playoffs, though?
That's part of their problem right there.
That is part of their problem.
We love Tampa.
We were there when the Rays were launched.
We were a Tampa-based show when they started.
And I'll never forget the first year.
You know, you get all this excitement, new franchise.
And they had, because we were the home of the Tampa Bay Rays and the Devil Race at the time, they got a bunch of tickets for everyone to come who worked at the station to go see.
And when I would leave every day walking out the station, on the desk where the assistant who had them was, there's just a giant stack of tickets.
And every day, they'd just be sitting there at the edge of the desk for anyone walking out to just take them.
And nobody even wanted them to take them.
I mean, it's just a journey over to St. Peter.
Like that, that distance is a tough distance, especially during rush hour to go to if you're from Tampa and like, and the team was bad and no one was showing up and no one liked the stadium.
And there's still no place and nobody still shows up.
They're really like, how have they kept that team there?
They made money ball over the A's, but like the Rays have accomplished much more.
Yeah.
I would argue than the A's have.
It's an incredible franchise, actually, but no one seems to pay attention to them for whatever reason.
But again, they shouldn't be out after having two bad games.
They won 99 games this year.
It's just a ridiculous thing that they got to change.
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And that, of course, is Sexy Red.
Yeah.
Am I right?
You are right on that.
Everybody.
Everybody.
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We're just showing Taylor Swift in the box.
Like, right.
You know, when you hear that you're going to hear, just about to have a story about Sexy Red, it's almost like clickbait.
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And Pat, let me ask you a question.
And this is a dumb question.
But are you familiar with sexy red?
Oh my gosh, that is a stupid question.
Maybe probably the dumbest one you've asked.
Really?
Maybe ever.
Oh my gosh.
I'm sorry.
I mean, who isn't a big fan of sexy red?
You know what I mean?
So when you're on Spotify, like how many of your top songs of 2023 will be sexy red songs?
All of them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So it's the only artist you listen to.
Pretty much.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, because that's the thing.
You make a cost-benefit analysis.
You say, hey, I can listen to another Sexy Red song or a song from someone else.
That is so much lesser.
Right.
And then I say, no.
Why would I do that?
I'll just pick another.
I'll just play that same sexy red song over and over again.
Exactly.
Now, can you name a sexy red song?
I could, but I'm not going to insult people's intelligence.
Okay.
You know, who are just as big, if not bigger, sexy red fans than I am.
This audience into the sexy red, as you know.
That's very true.
We've done a lot of audience research, and we find we have the highest crossover with sexy red.
Now, Pat, can I just ask you this is a quick question.
Okay.
How do you spell sexy red?
In this context, not the two words of English.
If you had to guess.
I would say S-E-C-K-S-Y.
R-E-A-D.
It's a good guess.
It's not quite as far as that.
She just says Y R-E-D.
Just an extra Y in there.
It's like Zelensky.
That's all.
It's like Zelensky sometimes.
Sometimes.
Because other times you just, you don't do the extra red.
You don't do the extra.
I don't know what determines that.
No one knows.
Nobody knows.
No one knows.
But we do know Sexy Red.
Now, Sexy Red is a rapper.
And now she is.
Some people say, wait, I don't even know who Sexy Red is.
Why are they talking about this?
She's the author and artist behind Poundtown.
Duh.
So now you know, obviously Poundtown.
That's my favorite song.
Now, I can't read you any of the lyrics from the song Poundtown because we will lose our FCC license and we will be kicked off immediately from the air.
So I can't actually tell you, but if you would like to go listen to Poundtown, you could do that on any major streaming device.
I would say you could listen to the clean version, but I can't imagine one exists because it would just be silence.
So you might think the first part of the story is not going to surprise you because the author of the song Poundtown has shockingly had a sex tape which has leaked.
Now, this is, I mean, wow, a stunner.
Yeah.
You know, you wouldn't think the author of Poundtown would have a song that or have a sex tape that would be leaked because why would she be engaged in such things?
Right, right.
You think of her as a very...
Completely out of character.
Out of character.
Right.
But someone apparently filmed her having sex with some gentleman.
Oh, wow.
And released it.
Now, again, we have a twist in the story here, Pat, because let's just say some are, some, let's think about the history of the sex tape being released, right?
What happens in that scenario?
There's a sex tape that is filmed, usually sometimes without someone's consent.
That's obviously really, really bad.
Sometimes with the person's consent, but then the other party in the tape releases it or someone hacks into a phone, gets control of a sex tape, and then releases it online or tries to make money off of it.
We've seen this pattern play out many, many times.
I do not think I've seen this particular pattern play out, though, because the sexy red sex tape was released on sexy red's own Instagram feed.
Now, she claims she did not release her sex tape intentionally to draw attention to herself.
She says she would never do such a thing.
And of course, I believe her because the author of Poundtown, it would never do it.
It's out of her character to release a sex tape on her own Instagram feed.
However, she claims she didn't do it.
And you might say this is a little Anthony Wiener-esque as far as convincing me of this.
Maybe you don't believe it.
But it is a very, very strange thing.
You'd think maybe the author of Poundtown just says, yeah, I did it because I thought it was awesome.
You'd almost kind of think that would be her attitude here.
But no, she's saying she did not do it.
But that's not the story here.
All that is just set up to the actual story.
And it's a fascinating one because it seems our own Sexy Red may get canceled.
She may get canceled.
And you might think, well, why does she get canceled?
Because she released a sex tape on her own Instagram feed.
No, of course not.
That's going to do nothing but endear her to her legions of fans.
However, she did something that crossed the line.
And you might know that the line for sexy red is way out there.
It's like a really, it's a distant line, but she crossed it.
We have the audio of her crossing the line.
Are you ready to hear sexy red discussing the end of her career?
She did the one thing you cannot do in today's society.
Here it is.
Do you think more people are going to support Trump now in the hood or no?
Yeah, they support him in the hood.
Because at first, I don't think people was with him like they thought he was racist, saying a little shit and, you know, against women.
But once he started getting black people out of jail and giving people their free money, oh, baby, we love Trump.
We need him back in office.
Yeah, a little bit of free money goes a long way.
We need him back.
Because, baby, them checks.
Oh, yes, them stimulus checks.
Trump, we miss you.
That's like Woe Vicki.
She's always talking about Trump.
You see her ever?
I like Trump.
No, I ain't never seen Woe Vicki.
She's funny.
I love Trump, though.
He's funny to me.
Like, I used to watch his interview, not interviews, like him talking to people.
He used to be calling people fat.
He just followed.
He funny.
There you go.
So she did the one thing you're not allowed to do.
She says Trump supporters.
She likes Trump.
Oh, man.
So therefore, she must be excommunicated from society.
Not the sex tape, not poundtown.
You're right.
But the fact that she likes Trump means she should be excommunicated.
And yet another layer to the story.
This is one of the most layered stories we've dealt with all week.
We've talked about Ukraine.
We've talked about the Speaker of the House.
We've talked about the border.
We've talked about lots of stuff.
This is by far the most interesting story of the week to me.
Why?
It's also fascinating about what she likes about Trump.
What she likes about Trump is that he gives her free money.
He lets black people out of jail.
He gives them checks, them stimulus checks.
Okay.
And he calls people fat.
I mean, how is this not a Trump campaign commercial yet?
Right.
Hi, I'm Donald Trump.
I will give you free money.
I'll let black people out of jail.
You'll get lots of stimulus checks and I'll call people fat.
Vote for me.
That's a campaign.
Sure is.
Now, one, who is of a conservative persuasion, might be a little concerned that a bunch of stimulus checks, not holding people accountable for crimes.
The fat part I'm pretty much fine with.
But other than that, the other stuff that she likes about Trump, I would not say are on the top echelons of the things that I like about Trump.
I mean, if black people are innocent, of course they should be let out of jail.
They should probably face the consequences of their actions, whether they're black or white.
That one, you know, not my favorite policy of Trump's.
Secondarily, giving free money and stimulus checks, very much not my favorite policy of Trump's.
No.
So I don't know.
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You know, look, Sexy Red is one of our leaders when it comes to political analysis.
Clearly a national treasurer.
You know, let's not forget that part.
Unquestionably a national treasurer.
I mean, just poundtown alone gets you to that level, let alone the sex tape, let alone the desire for free money and stimulus checks.
She's an American dream.
Come true.
Yes.
So we can all unite there.
But I mean, would this, if you're the average voter, does this change the way you're looking?
Like if you were, hey, I thought DeSantis might be pretty good, but, you know, Trump gives out those checks and calls people fat.
So now I'm on the borderline.
Would that be the type of thing you think the decision-making process, like in a state like Iowa?
Do you think they're looking at this in a state?
Definitely.
Yeah, definitely.
Now, I was a big Pence supporter yesterday, but now, how can I?
Sexy Red's kind of won me over.
I don't want her on the Trump train.
Yeah.
I would definitely look for that clip to be in an ad for Trump any day now.
I'll bet like a lot of her base is really pissed at her.
I mean, that's where they're.
It does seem like she's getting a lot of flack.
Again, for all the other stuff she's done in her life, this is the thing that she's getting a lot of flack for.
How dare you say you like Trump?
What an incredible civilization we have going right now.
It is amazing, isn't it?
And I will say it's also interesting that, you know, look, again, we could overanalyze.
Maybe we have overanalyzed the sexy red commentary here.
But I do think there is an aspect of this where it's just people remembering that the economy used to be good.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, hey, I remember that.
I remember when it didn't feel like when Bidenomics wasn't here and things felt pretty good.
I mean, I don't think there's a hugely deep analysis there, but I do think that feeling is real among voters who might have problems with Donald Trump on a bunch of different stuff, but just say, at least I have money in my bank account.
Yeah.
And I can make my own decisions on stuff.
And that goes a long way for people.
Yeah, absolutely.
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All right, now some have claimed that they've debunked Sexy Red's portrayal of Donald Trump's presidency.
That's right, but they really haven't.
I would argue no.
Now, again, we're going to deep.
I hope this is not too deep for the audience to follow because this sort of economic analysis can get into the weeds a little bit.
And I hope you can stick with us.
But Hot97 and Apple Music's Ibro Darden.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Economist.
Yeah.
As well.
Also, he, this is according to the article, he debunked Red's thoughts with, quote, clearly some people don't know how the stimulus checks worked, whose money it actually was, slash is, and how it got distributed.
Dot, dot, dot.
People believe anything.
Now, wow, that's deep.
That's not a thorough debunking of the people.
You don't think so?
And what's hilarious about this is it's just a point to say not that stimulus checks are a bad idea.
It seems to just be that, like, no, you shouldn't give Trump the credit for them.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Now, when he says whose money it actually was, I'll tell you who's, first of all, it's probably China's, or it was printed, or it was mine.
It was yours, Pat.
It was everyone in this audience who funded all of that so that people could get free money and free checks.
Yep.
So I look at this as actually a negative on Trump's presidential record, which obviously there was a lot of positive as well, but Trump never prioritized spending.
He never cared about it.
He never, I mean, he ran as a candidate who said, I will never touch an entitlement program, right?
Like that was, obviously, he went outside the norms of Republican thought at that time, paid off for him, won the election, won the primary.
But not my favorite part of his presidency by any means.
And I guess I have a fundamental disagreement with both Sexy Red and Apple Music's Ibro Darden about that fact.
You know, it's a fascinating thing.
The world works in so many interesting ways.
And, you know, sometimes you go into a day thinking, I agree with everything Sexy Red says.
And at the end of the day, hey, we have a slight disagreement on one issue.
Yeah.
So there you go.
We could easily overlook that, though, because we're such fans of Sexy Red.
Yeah, I mean, look, it's not going to hurt my opinion of her music.
No, especially her early works.
You know, like the acoustic sets.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
When she does Poundtown acoustically.
Oh, man.
Remember, she was in the same studio that the Beatles recorded it.
And they, and that was incredible.
I wept.
I wept.
It was so moving.
So, yeah.
You know, look, she's an incredible artist, an incredible political commentator.
And look, she is, she's got some pretty amazing stuff.
Now, we know, obviously, Poundtown.
Obviously.
But a lot of people don't know about Poundtown 2.
Oh, Poundtown.
There's a sequel to Poundtown called Poundtown 2.
There's also a song, and this one is one of my favorites because it hits me to my core.
You know, some songs just hit you where you live.
Yeah.
This one did that for me.
It's called Nachos.
Nachos?
Nachos.
Yeah.
One of my favorite things in the whole world.
Right.
She has a song about it.
Now, this is from her album.
Again, I'm saying this for the audience.
I know you know, Pat, but this is from her album, Hood Hottest Princess.
So that's good for her.
That's good.
Now, some of the songs I can't give you the titles to because they have a lot of swears in them.
But we have, what about Strictly for the Strippers?
How do you feel about that?
You entered that one?
Oh, it's one of my favorites.
Strictly for the Strippers?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's good.
What about Chicken Chicken?
Love Chicken Chicken.
Yeah.
Chicken too tasty.
Love chicken chicken.
We have Ah, a Thousand Jugs, which is a great again.
So many more of these would be so good if I could say them.
I can't legally say them.
Let us stew.
And I want to point this out about Poundtown and not being able to recite any of the lyrics.
That is completely untrue.
Let me read for you the first time.
I want to remind you of our responsibilities as broadcasters.
Okay, and I'm fully aware.
Okay.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh, I'm out of town thugging with my rounds.
Now I do need to stop there, but there are some lyrics that you can, in fact, read Poundtown.
And here's the thing: you might be thinking, like, well, they're probably like really sexualized lyrics.
And yes, they are.
And you might think, oh, there's a lot of swears in the very next line.
That's also true.
Yes.
What you're probably not factoring is how many N-words we'd have to skip.
Yeah, quite sad.
Because there's a lot of that in there, too.
So there's like almost nothing we could say, but Pat did find the one part.
There's also, I will say, a lot of words I don't.
And this is going to admit something about myself, but there's a lot of words I don't understand in the lyrics.
See, Powntown and many of her other songs, they're words that I would argue maybe are made up, but also I don't know what they mean, so I don't know if I can say them.
That's a whole nother layer of this.
Yeah, I was a little hesitant on I'm thugging with my rounds.
Right.
But I don't really know what that means.
Right.
I'm afraid.
So maybe it was something that.
Like you may have said the worst thing ever uttered on radio and don't even know it.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Right.
You might get canceled for that sentence and you'd be completely unaware of why.
And that's why I didn't want to read any of this.
That would be really unfortunate, frankly.
It's unfair.
Just like it is unfair to Sexy Red.
Yes.
Who didn't know she would get canceled for saying she was a Trump supporter?
No, she did.
Clearly, she didn't.
All she does is like a president who's going to call people fat.
Right.
What's wrong with that?
Nothing.
I mean, this is America.
Yeah.
If you can't call Chris Christie fat, what kind of country is this?
You know, and poor Sexy Red is feeling the heat from this, and I think it's wrong.
We're going to start a GoFundMe for Sexy Red coming up.
We'll go give you the details on that.
You need to support her.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, she's just trying to get to Poundtown.
Get to Poundtown, get home.
That's all she wants.
And who can blame her, Frank?
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There's more outrage over yet another transgendered person who is competing against girls.
This time in Maine at the XC Festival of Champions last Saturday, Maine Coast Waldorf High School sophomore, Soren Starkchessa, previously competed in the boys category for the school just a year ago and was ranked 172nd.
Okay, so not very good.
Not very good.
After the transition.
So wait, hold on.
Yeah.
You're going to give this away here.
After the transition, there's no, now, if I could think about the science here, there's no evidence that he would improve going to the female side.
So I would assume, if I were to guess.
I mean, they're just, okay, what would you assume?
172nd.
Okay, no.
Just slightly higher than that.
Wow.
Number four in the girls' division.
Number four.
So 172nd to number four.
To number four.
But there's no evidence.
There's a little bit of improvement.
But yeah, again, there's no evidence.
Just like there's no evidence that Joe Biden was involved in anything with Hunter Biden.
Thank you.
No evidence.
No evidence that he ever was involved in any of the business partners.
That's correct.
And there's no evidence at all.
Science teaches us quite clearly that there's no difference physically between men and women, boys and girls.
Especially when it comes to physical competition.
Right.
There's just no difference.
No difference.
Which exact thing.
That's why we see examples, so many examples of biological females who have made the transition to male, who then compete against men in men's sports.
So many of them.
And we see so many of these biological females dominate men in men's sports.
Right.
Like that was that one case where a woman was ranked like, you know, 172nd and then went over to the men's division was fourth.
That happens a lot.
Yeah, except for no example of that.
Never.
Not even one?
No.
There's not one.
There has to be one.
There's not one that I know of, but I'd love to hear of one if anybody has an example.
Legitimately, that would be fascinating.
I'd be really interested in it.
Is it possible?
Just think of this out.
Like maybe something like gymnastics or something?
I don't know.
Probably not.
Probably not.
No, because I think while like the typical female gymnastic, gymnastics participant is so much more flexible than a man with the same athletic ability.
Yeah.
The men who can actually do gymnastics are spectacular at these things and arguably are as good or better than women, but they do different things than women do.
But like they do like the crazy vaulting, for example.
Again, I don't know about gymnastics to know, but they do the bars.
They do all sorts of a lot of the same events.
I don't think if Simone Biles went over to men's gymnastics, would she be a great men's gymnast?
I don't know.
I mean, I just don't think.
I don't think so.
I will say I have a daughter who does gymnastics.
And while, and she seems to be pretty good, like she's, she made the Nationals last year and she's doing really well.
And she'd only been doing it for a couple, you know, a couple of years.
And every part of what she does, all of the things that she does are all things there has not been one day in my life I could do.
All of them are so foreign and look completely impossible for a human being to accomplish that there was never a day that I could do any of the things she does.
Like it's legitimately true.
But female, male gymnasts can do those things, right?
Like they, at least a lot of them.
Like a floor routine, they can do the twisting and turning and jumping.
Like my daughter will just be talking to me like, you know, she's 10.
We're in the middle of a conversation and she's telling me a story.
And then all of a sudden she'll just sort of start bending backwards.
And then all of a sudden her hands will be on the floor and she's just a like the letter U upside down and her hands and her feet are still on the floor, but she's bent completely backwards.
And you're saying it looks like it's something out of the ring.
You can't do that?
I cannot.
Wow.
I can safely say not only can I not do it now at 47 years old, but there has never been a day in my life that I could do it.
That's weird.
Beginning to end.
That's weird.
I will never get there.
So maybe there's something, but like you, the tennis one is an interesting example of this, right?
Where like tennis, I actually prefer watching women's tennis over men's tennis because men's tennis is just 140 mile an hour serves for aces every point, right?
Like there's nothing, nothing happens.
You know, again, it's just there's not a lot of points.
I love the tennis example, though, because we have hardcore proof that what we say is backed up by absolute fact, proven fact.
In fact, we had some pundit from MSNBC or CNN, I forget which, Kelly Robinson, talking about how there isn't evidence of this.
Like, you know, men and women, they're the same.
And if you had, if you put Serena Williams up against a man, she could easily compete with him.
Well, I can say that, you know, there's been this news article about men that think that they could beat Serena Williams in tennis, right?
That they think that they could actually score a point on her.
And it's just not the case.
She is stronger.
Oh, well, let's ask Serena Williams herself about that comment.
I'm like, if I were to play Andy Murray, I would lose 6-0-6-0 in five to six minutes, maybe 10 minutes.
No, it's true.
It's a completely different sport.
The men are a lot faster and they serve harder.
They hit hard.
It's just a different game.
Oh, that's weird.
Weird that she would think that.
The greatest tennis player of all time, arguably.
And then she played the 203rd ranked man in the world.
203rd.
Now, this was because they were at the U.S. Open in, I think it was 97, 97 or 98.
She and Venus were talking to each other, and the guy standing behind them heard it.
He was the 203rd ranked man in the world.
They said they could beat anybody in the top 200.
I think it was outside the top 200.
Yes, it was.
It was anybody outside the top 200.
So at number 203, he's outside the top 200.
He played them both, beat them both badly.
6'1, I think, in one case and 6'2 in the other.
They just played one set, but he destroyed them.
And he said he didn't serve his hardest because he wanted it to be more competitive.
So that was absolute hardcore proof that what they said at the time, and they learned.
They learned.
There was also a, didn't the women's national soccer team play like a bunch of high school kids?
Here in Dallas.
The women's national soccer team played the boys Dallas 14 and unders.
Not even high school.
14 and under and lost 5-1.
Lost 5-1.
And that's a 5-1 in soccer.
If you were to put that in NFL terms, it would be like 3,000 to nothing.
It would be the same thing as five goals in a game.
I don't think it's ever happened before.
I could be wrong on that.
Right.
Well, the women's team also went to England fairly recently.
I think this was just in the last six months to a year and played a series of three matches against some of the teams in the Premier League and just got destroyed.
To the point they called the match.
Yeah.
They actually 37 minutes, one of the teams, and I don't remember which English team it was, but they beat him 12 to nothing.
37 minutes.
It wasn't like Manchester United.
It wasn't one of the top teams.
It wasn't one of the top teams in the Premier League.
It was just a team.
And they played three of them, and they lost by a combined 25 to 1 in those three.
Was it Wrexham?
Wrexham, this is the team that I don't know.
People are telling me it might be Wrexham in the other room.
Wrexham is the team owned by Rob McElhaney and Ryan Reynolds.
Oh.
So I don't know if it was that one.
I don't know either.
But it was really, you know, I watched a little of that documentary, which was pretty, pretty interesting of them buying that team and going through it.
And I don't know much about the European soccer.
I don't either.
They do have one cool thing that I think would be nice to adopt one of our real leaks of real sports, which is the thing where if you finish dead last, you go to another division.
And if you finish first in the under division, you move up, which is pretty fun.
So they were able to move up, I think this past season, up to whatever the higher division is.
I don't think it's even premiere.
I think they were down two divisions.
Champions League.
No, I don't know.
Okay.
I don't know.
Believe me, us talking about soccer is like sexy red talking about politics.
So I don't know that we should be doing it.
But it is fascinating to watch because, and here's another layer of it being fascinating, Pat.
What you have given this half hour is an excellent argument, proving the fact that there is a major difference between men and women in sports.
But what's fascinating about that is that you have to give it.
There is, everyone knows what you're saying is true, including the idiot you just played for MSNBC, who also knows what she's saying is idiotic.
Yeah.
But they are just trying to make this weird mythical world become reality.
It's not.
Right.
It doesn't mean women are less than men as individuals.
It just means that they're not as good at sports.
And we all know they're not as good at sports.
We can also probably all admit that white people aren't as good at basketball as black people.
I don't know why that is.
I don't either.
I don't know what the reason is.
Obviously.
But it's obviously true.
80% of the NBA is African-American in a nation with 12% African Americans.
That's really good evidence that they're really good at that sport.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
It might be cultural, might be something to do with their physical makeup.
I don't know what it is.
But man, it certainly seems to be true.
But it's obvious.
We can all admit it.
There was a movie made called White Men Can't Jump that at the time, we all kind of just said, yeah, they really can't.
That's kind of true.
It doesn't mean that white people are bad because of it.
It just means people are different.
And we used to be able to admit that in our country.
And you know who else knows this?
Martina Navratilova.
She keeps talking about it.
One of the greatest women's tennis players of all time.
I mean, she was really good.
Really good.
And she just destroyed opponents back in her day.
And she's also a pioneer.
She is obviously a lesbian woman who kind of plowed that territory, plowed that ground, and cleared the way for a lot of other people to be open about their sexuality.
Sure.
But she's not open to the fact that women, that men should compete against women.
And she says it all the time.
Yeah.
Very brave way.
Very brave.
Honestly, because you get, this is the type of thing you get destroyed for.
Now, you know, she has a very strange intersectional relationship with the media and that like they used to just praise her all the time.
Now they just, I feel like they've just come to the point of indifference with her.
They won't, they won't say good or bad things about her anymore.
Yeah.
They can't praise her anymore because she's saying stuff that's out of line.
But I also think she's got enough points built up over the years that they don't want to completely trash her.
And she's 66 now.
What are you going to say about her?
What are you going to say about Martina Navartolo?
Does she care?
Nah, she's a hater.
She's just a nasty hater.
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Really?
Is she?
Is she?
Yeah, I don't think so.
I think what she's saying is common sense and the truth, and you just don't want to hear it.
And something that every single person knows.
Yeah.
They all know it's true.
This is what's so weird about our society right now.
It's not like, it's not like, you know, minimum wage where like I say, hey, we shouldn't have a lower or no minimum wage federally.
And they say, oh, well, you need one.
And we go back and forth because they really believe they need, I think they really believe that we need one, even though I think they're wrong.
I think the evidence shows it doesn't work.
And I really believe that we don't.
That's not the case with this trans stuff.
They also know what we know.
They are completely.
They totally know what we're saying is true.
And yet they go out there every day and say the opposite anyway.
Yep.
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Pat, can we end the day with a moment of heroism from Al Michaels?
Oh, this is something you might not know about.
And I didn't know about it until today either, but it's one of the greatest achievements, I think, of humankind.
Are you ready for it?
I am.
Here's Al Michaels talking to Chris Wallace.
Is it true that you have never knowingly eaten a vegetable in your life?
That is true.
That is true.
I was born when my parents were 18, and my mother hadn't even read Dr. Spock at that point.
So she just let me have the run of the course.
And I always pushed the vegetables away.
To this day, no.
And I guess what I've proven, Chris, is that man does not need vegetables to survive.
But is it just possible that you would like, I'm thinking of one of the more non-objectionable vegetables, a carrot.
Oh, please.
Please.
A carrot?
No, a carrot.
No, that's an objectionable vegetable.
Really?
I mean, how would you know?
You've never tasted it.
I look at it.
I just don't even like the look of it.
And I surmise what it might taste like in terms of the texture of it.
I think a lot of it probably has to do with, it just doesn't look like something that would go down well.
How great is that?
What a great thing to be able to say about yourself.
I've never eaten a vegetable in my entire life.
It's amazing.
Never knowingly eaten a vegetable.
Like, I'm sure, you know, if you have a, you know, a sauce, there might be a vegetable kind of mashed up in there you don't know about, right?
But he's saying, never just picked, just eaten one off of a plate.
In his entire life, I'm pretty close to that.
I'm pretty close.
Yes, you are.
I'm the closest to that person as far as people that I know of.
But you're mostly vegetarian, though, right?
Mostly, yes.
As you know, and I've said many times, I am mostly vegetarian.
You know, except for a little bit of fish and chicken.