Blake Masters joins Glenn Beck to debate the Arizona Senate race against Mark Kelly, criticizing Biden's Ukraine policy and inflation while advocating for border walls and nuclear energy. They scrutinize Air Canada's electric plane orders, Tesla battery risks, and Ron DeSantis's "biblical" hurricane comments, which sparked backlash from Maude Newton. The discussion also covers student walkouts motivated by truancy, Putin's territorial claims, and Western sabotage theories regarding the Nord Stream pipelines, ultimately framing current crises as consequences of progressive overreach and elite failure. [Automatically generated summary]
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Yeah, you run for Senate?
I do.
He's running for Senate in Arizona.
Yeah.
I think we've got a tightening race there.
He's within striking distance, and I really hope he wins.
Yeah, me too.
Please.
Please win.
Please, everybody that you know, get them into your car.
And if they're going to vote Democrat, put them in the trunk of the car.
Glenn Beck.
This is the sort of thing.
This is a civil war he's advocating for.
You know that's coming now.
Now you don't.
Now it's coming.
Now I'm done.
Well, you should hear the rest of the show because I'm going to do it again.
And we hear in the rest of the show, Democrats basically calling over and over again for a civil war, which is weird because they keep accusing us of doing it, but they keep saying it's happening already.
Yeah, I've kind of figured this out.
I think all of America has.
Whatever it is they say we're doing, they're doing it.
So we have that and also the latest from the Fed.
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Solar Cars vs. Battery Safety00:07:16
Hello, Pat.
Hello, Glenn.
How was your weekend?
Oh, it was perfect in every way.
Had a perfect, perfect weekend.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
So what do you have today?
Well, I'm kind of interested in Air Canada ordering 30 electric planes that can carry passengers, maybe 124 miles.
Holy cow, not 124 miles.
What is it?
About 18 miles from here to New York City?
It's about that.
Yeah.
It's about that.
So, I mean, it'll easily get you to New York City.
Paris is another 50 miles or so from New York City.
It might be a little bit long.
You might have to stop in Greenland to refuel.
But this should cover just about everything.
And I would feel so safe in an all-electric plane, wouldn't you?
Oh, nothing could go wrong with them.
No.
Do they have solar panels on top?
No, I don't believe they do, actually.
I don't think so.
Just really expensive and environmentally unfriendly batteries.
Well, they're not only unfriendly batteries.
You still are burning coal to be able to fill that tank up, if you will.
Right.
You know?
Right.
So you got that.
I can't imagine.
Oh, and here's another really good feature of these planes, which are coming very soon by 2028.
It seats up to get this 30 passengers.
Up to 30.
Up to.
Not more than 20.
If you want to fly more miles than 124, they limit it to 25.
And then you can go 249 miles.
249 miles.
And if that's not enough for you, get out and walk.
Shut up.
My gosh, I don't want us to go further than 249 miles.
Nobody, there's no reason to.
It is too far.
It is too far.
Wow.
By the time you got through security, you could have driven it.
Right?
I mean, you have to show up two hours early, 60 miles an hour, two hours, you're 120 miles.
That's the whole thing.
Yeah.
So, yeah, but then you'd be burning carbon.
You know, and you're not being a friend of the planet.
Right.
So worshiping Gaia.
And what you don't know is that your car is not going to run anyway.
So you won't have any choice.
You'll probably walk to the airport and then say, could I get on this plane?
I have to go to work.
And it'll take you to work.
Well, it'll take you to the airport within 120 miles of where you work.
Which is all you need, really.
It's all you need.
Then you, instead of you walk to the office.
This electric thing where everything has to be electric, you know, cars by 2035 in California, planes, we're going to get our first dose in 2028.
This is going to work out really well, I feel.
I feel like it's going to be really.
I'm pretty sure everything that they're working on is going to work out.
It's going to work out really well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's one of those things when you're driving an electric car.
Let's say you're low on battery and you're driving down the street and you run out of power, you will coast to a stop.
Right.
You don't fall like 30,000 feet.
It's kind of a different feel.
And actually, when your car runs out of battery, you don't coast.
It just stops.
It stops.
Well, I told you about the original Tesla, the first one they made, which we covered back at CNN headline news back in the day.
It was $110,000 sports car, two-seater.
It looks like a Lotus.
It's cool looking car.
And, you know, it definitely has, it was an amazing technology, particularly at the time.
But I was, I, I'm, I just think, you know, they're pretty cool cars.
And, and I was talking to a guy who owned one.
And, you know, I was like, ah, this would be a cool thing to have.
Like, if you're a car collector, the first Tesla, like, you know, before people even learned the company existed.
And so he was telling me, he said that there was a minor incident because there is a factory that does all these like old parts because they don't even really, I mean, they service the car, but it's not like, you know, it's not easy to get the parts anymore.
They did have a fire at one of the factories.
They lost, I think, 45 of them.
Now, I think there was 1,300 made in the United States.
So losing 45 is kind of a big deal.
Significantly.
And I'm pretty sure the fire is still burning to this moment.
But it wasn't due to batteries or electric cars.
Oh, no, no, it was something totally different.
Okay, good.
But the other thing is, if you're kindling they left around the factory.
Yeah, that happens over time.
You leave kindling.
We were trying to clean it up, Lace.
Can't eat the blade.
I didn't throw in that.
It's a Tesla repair/slash kindling factory, which is a bad car.
That makes a lot of sense.
It's a bad combination.
You start those batteries on fire with kindling.
But he was saying that if you have one of these cars and you got to keep it charged, right?
It's not a car you're taking out all the time, right?
Like it's a collector's item.
So you got to keep it charged, but you can't overcharge it because it could burn out.
And if you, if you let it burn out, it could burn up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But if you let it go to 0% battery.
Yes.
The car is now a very expensive paperweight because you can't never charge it again.
Once it goes to zero, battery completely toasts.
Now, I assume they've probably improved this over the years with Tesla, so this will be happening a lot more often.
But like this was the way it was set up.
So if that's amazing.
And the new battery, I think, is $45,000 and you have to wait 18 months.
So there's still like 28 grand.
Wait a minute.
Guys, I don't think that's been changed.
So if it goes to zero, Ted, I have solar energy.
I have a $15 freaking $1,000 battery.
One.
Okay.
And a row of whole bunch of other batteries.
Okay.
And I can only use it to be safe.
I can only drain it to about 40%.
It's got to have 40% left in it.
Once you start getting down lower, and if it ever drains, you're done.
You're done.
Oh, my God.
Done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's great.
I'm totally the guy that would have, you know, would have this thing plugged in and not drive it for a few weeks.
And then it would get the kid goes in there to get something out of the garage, knocks the plug out.
I don't notice.
And then the car's toast.
Yeah.
That's totally what I would do if I had one of those cars.
Dude, you're not thinking, I mean, you're much more responsible than that.
Like, you never, have you ever had your phone go out of power?
No.
Nobody's ever done that.
You always plug it in before it goes out.
Every single time.
Every single time.
I never let mine get below 40%.
Really?
You know, I say I just have to stop working and talking or doing whatever I'm doing when it gets to 40%.
Now, to be clear, you can't get it fully charged and leave it plugged in either.
That would be very bad.
That would be very bad.
Well, the bad news is, in my case, with solar energy, it never fully charges.
Dog Whistles for Evangelicals00:03:24
Oh, agree.
Yeah.
So we have that.
Hey, speaking of sunshine, you know, DeSantis, this guy.
This guy.
This guy is so bad.
This fashion.
This is so bad.
Yeah.
Would you use that label?
Because that's the label I use for him.
He's a fashion.
I don't think it's strong enough.
Yeah.
Well, I think he might even be the Antichrist.
That's a very good possibility.
I don't know.
Would you expect DeSantis to be the Antichrist?
No.
No, you wouldn't.
No.
No.
And Maude Newton, who we all know and love.
The Maude Newton?
Maude.
Maude.
She describes herself as a writer, a critic, an editor, an occasional speaker.
Oh, she writes occasionally speech time.
Yeah, and occasionally.
She rarely converses.
Right.
I think she should speak maybe less.
But she tweeted that Florida governor Ron DeSantis used the word biblical when he was describing the hurricane storm surge as an evangelical dog whistle.
Oh, wow.
So no evangelicals heard it then?
Yeah.
Because only dogs hear dog whistles.
So that's weird.
No, no, it means if evangelicals were dogs, they would hear it.
They're the only ones who hear it.
Yes, they're the only ones.
And she said, this language is an evangelical dog whistle, i.e. it's not climate change.
It's God.
Which is which, of course, that's what he was saying.
I mean, dog whistle as much as, you know, like I, because I'm curious if she heard it.
How is it an evangelical dog whistle?
Right.
That's a good point.
Is she deeply evangelical?
Is that what we're learning about?
She just has special skills.
Okay.
She just has special hearing.
She can decipher dog whistles.
Now, she did delete the tweet.
Oh, no.
But she came out and said, sometimes I stand by a tweet.
but delete it because I've spent enough of my life amid the rantings and abuse of rapture-obsessed evangelicals.
Okay.
So she sounds really friendly to evangelicals.
She does.
She sounds very open-minded.
Friendly enough to hear the dog whistle.
All right.
Yeah.
Or the evangelical whistle.
Well, she's special.
You know what I mean?
She's got the special skill and she knows better.
Some would describe her as special.
Not you.
Not me.
Not you.
Not me.
I wouldn't do that.
She seems very special.
And finally, let me give you this quick story.
And you're going to find this stew in particular.
You're going to find this interesting.
Internal materials now show.
Adult former Democratic legislative aide who encouraged students to say that transgender youth will kill themselves over a Republican policy was kind of spearheading the national walkouts and the walkouts that students where they were supposedly objecting to transgender policies from Glenn Young.
School Walkouts and the Elites00:14:45
But there's an internal video now that shows the student group that was led by the former Democratic staffer and that he and the group knew that a large portion of students had absolutely no interest in the cause.
They just wanted to skip school.
Surprise.
It's a shocker.
Now I can say, because I get this dog whistle.
I was in this group and walked out of high school for literally any cause.
Any time.
There were many, many walkouts I remember when I was in school.
And every single time, no matter what the cause was, I walked out.
And I was passionate about whatever it was at that time.
Now, I didn't know what it was each time, but I was always passionate about it because if you were passionate about it, you could walk out and then all the teachers would, number one, let you out of class.
They would excuse it.
And number two, they would look at you as like, wow, there's someone who's, these kids are really tuned in.
They're tuned in.
They're taking their civic duties seriously.
Who said that?
This was the vibe of the teachers.
They were more like, hey, they didn't get mad at you for walking out.
It was more like rock the vote.
Like, these kids are involved.
They were proud of you.
So, was it just, was it just me and my family?
Because I never walked out of school because I knew my dad would say, I know what the hell you're doing.
Get your ass back in school.
Well, they didn't even like, the way I remember, again, it's been a while here.
I'm 100 years old at this point.
But what I remember is they wouldn't even, it wasn't even in like, they wouldn't tell the parents, hey, your kid was out of school.
We're upset.
It was just like everyone would walk out.
They'd do the thing.
We'd walk around.
Many of us would branch off at the convenience store and then join on the way back into the protest.
And then he'd walk back into school and everyone would be like, wow, there'd be like a local news item.
Students walk out of school to support, I don't know, probably late-term abortion or whatever we were walking out over.
I have no idea.
And that was it.
You just miss a bunch of classes and it would be over.
It was really.
It was in Connecticut.
Yeah.
I don't remember the student protest movement in Montana.
Yeah.
We protested it being too cold once in a while, but that's about it.
Stayed home.
I went to 80 below.
You wouldn't want to walk outside in Montana.
No, you don't.
No.
You'd want to stay inside no matter what.
Well, there's August, but they're not in school.
Right.
Right.
That's right.
You don't walk until after Labor Day.
There's a couple of nice months in Connecticut, and you just walk out.
And then, you know, you walk out until you get to a place you want to go.
And then there's probably buy something there, maybe have McDonald's.
Yeah, McDonald's was a little bit.
Usually for McDonald's, we'd have to take the car.
We'd have to walk.
We'd have to act like we were walking out with a group, but then walk to the parking lot and get the car and then drive to McDonald's.
That was a little bit more of a trek.
But you could do that too.
And we did many, many times.
Well, all of us here on the Glenn Beck program are shocked.
Yeah.
Shocked.
Shocked to hear that last week's walkout, apparently very few kids really even knew what they were walking out for.
Hard to believe.
Shunning.
Yeah.
It's shocking.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
So, Stu, you know, I spent a couple of minutes just wanted to, you know, I wanted to check in with old Vlad and see what he was thinking.
And.
And, you know, he declared the lands he invaded now Russian soil.
And then immediately lost them.
Right.
Like he said they're Russian soil.
And then like a day later, Ukraine took over one of the key cities in the region.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a problem.
Because here's what Putin said.
We will defend our land with all the powers and means at our disposal.
In 1991, in the Bolovzeth forest, without asking the will of common citizens, the representatives of the then party elites decided to destroy the USSR, and people suddenly found themselves cut off from their motherland.
This tore apart and dismembered our nation, becoming a national catastrophe.
So that's the deal when all of the Soviet leaders got in and went and met with, I think, Yeltsin, right?
And they were in the middle of this forest, and they were like, okay, what are we going to do, guys?
And they decided to make the Russian Federation.
And so the Soviet Union went away.
He said, I admit they didn't fully understand what they were doing and the consequences that this would inevitably lead to in the end.
But this is no longer important.
There is no Soviet Union.
The past cannot be brought back.
And Russia today does not need it anymore.
We're not striving for this.
The battlefield to which fate and history has called us is the battlefield for our people, for great historic Russia, for future generations, our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
I want the Kiev authorities to know they're real masters in the West.
I want them to hear me so they remember this.
People living in Donetsk and these other places are becoming our citizens and they will be our citizens forever.
We call on the Kyiv regime to immediately end hostilities, end the war that they unleashed back in 2014 and return to the negotiating table.
We are ready for this, but we will not discuss the choice of the people in those areas.
That choice has already been made and Russia will not betray them.
Sanctions.
Now listen to this.
This is really important that you hear this because this is how the other side is fighting the Great Reset.
Quite honestly, this is how you scoop a lot of people who are anti-Great Reset and push them into the Russia camp.
Sanctions were not enough for the Anglo-Saxons.
Interesting choice of words.
They moved on to sabotage.
It's hard to believe, but it is a fact that they organized the blasts on the Nord Stream international gas pipelines, which run along the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
It is clear to everyone who benefits from this.
The West began its colonial policy back in the Middle Ages And then followed the slave trade, the genocide of the Indian indigenous tribes in America, the plunder of India, of Africa, the wars of England and France against China.
What they did was hooking entire nations on drugs, deliberately exterminating entire ethnic groups for the sake of land and resources.
They hunted people like animals.
This is contrary to the very nature of man, truth, freedom, and justice.
Okay.
Now, so far, if you're on the right, you're not interested in any of this, correct?
Correct.
The United States is the only country in the world that has twice used nuclear weapons, destroying the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and setting a precedent.
Even today, they occupy Germany, Japan, Republic of Korea, and other countries at the same time cynically calling them allies of equal standing.
They beg for us to stay, but that's a whole other story.
Again, I don't appreciate Vlad's analysis of this situation.
Now, listen to this.
Now they've moved entirely to a radical denial of moral norms, of religion, and of family.
The dictatorship of the Western elites is directed against all societies, including the peoples of the Western countries themselves.
This is a challenge to us all.
This is a complete denial of humanity, the overthrow of faith and traditional values.
Indeed, the suppression of freedom itself has taken on the features of a religion, outright Satanism.
Do we really want here in our country in Russia, instead of mom and dad, to have parent number one and parent number two and parent number three?
Have they gone completely insane?
Do we really want it drilled into our children in schools that there are supposedly genders besides men and women and children to be offered the chance to undergo sex change operations?
We have a different future.
We have our own future.
I mean, straight out of the Alexander Dugan playbook there, right?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, on both sides.
Parent one and parent two was, you know, was, we just talked about this with the situation in Italy with the new prime minister who this was the speech.
She actually used those exact terms, parent one and parent two.
And what happened?
And she won, and a lot of people here united behind her.
Now, she is not tied to this.
Yeah.
In fact, she's supporting Ukraine, we should point out.
And the elites are calling her a fascist.
Yeah, they're calling her a fascist.
And Putin is calling the elites fascist.
Notice he doesn't say even the governments.
He says the elites of the West.
He knows the language of the West.
And I believe that's Alexander Dugan.
This is absolutely the playbook of Alexander Dugan.
They play on the morals.
And thus, they can drive a wedge between us.
Because most Americans will listen to that.
And they'll say, well, I shouldn't say most Americans.
Many Americans.
If I just said that on the air and didn't tell you it Vladimir Putin, a lot of Americans would go, damn right.
Now I tell you about Vladimir, that came from Vladimir Putin, and you're like, wait a minute, wait, what?
Why are we against him?
Well, you heard his opinion of America before he said that.
His opinion of the West.
That's why he's looking again to Dugan for the fourth political theory.
The third was fascism.
The fourth is Dugan and Euro-Asian, Euro, Euro-Asian policy to where they unite the entire Asian continent with Europe and they lead the way in Russia.
Do you think, is there a notice of them pointing out the precedent of nuclear weapons?
Do you find that to be significant?
I do.
Do you?
Well, I thought so.
And I think it's, again, another sort of veiled, we might just use nuke's threat, which is not what you want for multiple reasons.
The obvious ones are there.
The secondary ones are, you know, we're currently led by a bunch of idiots.
So the fact that, you know, the reason we're avoiding nuclear war is, I guess, the restraint of Vladimir Putin, which I don't have much faith in, or the competence of our current political leadership, which I also have no faith in.
So that's good.
It should end up pretty well.
What could go wrong?
But the problem is, is it is with the elites.
It's really not with our neighbors.
Our neighbors have been conned.
You know, if you've ever wondered, how did the German people go from, you know, good, decent people to that?
How did that happen?
Over a slow, long period of time of being groomed to accept that kind of stuff.
And then all at once, we have been groomed.
We are approaching that all-at-once part.
And our neighbors, we still have a chance to embrace our neighbors and get them to wake up as much as possible.
But at the same time, we have to renew our commitment to what we know is true.
And the way to do that is to start speaking up, not in an angry way, but just speaking up and saying, that's not true.
Sorry, men cannot get pregnant.
And I know this is a little word game because what you're saying is that woman is now a man, but that woman is still a woman, period.
And no man has ever become pregnant.
I'm not playing your word game.
I understand what you're saying.
And you have a right to say it.
And I have a right to disagree with you.
And I, for one, will fight for your right to say that.
Will you?
The answer most likely will be no.
But that is fascism.
Fighting for someone's right to speak and say what they want to say, and especially those things you vehemently disagree with.
That is freedom.
That's classical liberalism.
This is fascism.
Fighting for the Right to Speak00:14:01
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
This is the Glenn Beck program.
Welcome to Blake Masters.
He is running for Senate in the U.S., in Arizona.
40 days, about 40 days left.
37, I think.
Who's counting?
It seems like you are.
37 days left.
You are neck and neck for the role of U.S. Senator.
What is happening in Arizona?
Not a whole lot that's good.
You know, we've got this wide open southern border.
I know every county in America is a border county at this point.
Fentanyl illegals, they're flowing everywhere.
But of course, we bear the brunt of it with all this territory right on the southern border.
And then Arizona also bears the brunt of the other crisis that Biden has caused, this inflation crisis.
We were just talking.
Inflation is the worst in the country in the greater Phoenix Metro.
It's 13%.
What do you think that is?
It's, you know, to the extent you bake housing into the into the calculus, Phoenix housing, all the Californians, they're moving and driving up housing prices.
But there's probably a few factors for it.
Although I think inflation is devastating across the country.
It is.
They say it's 8%.
It's like, no, I think if you measure it properly, it's probably between 10% and 15%.
What's the solution?
Because if the Fed continues to raise interest rate, which it must to suck the money back in and burn it, it could collapse the economy.
And if they don't.
Don't, you've got hyperinflation.
So what's the solution?
These are the great choices that Biden is giving us, right?
There's the Ukraine version of this.
It's like, what do you do?
How do you solve this?
And I just have to say, zoom out and realize we're only in this because of Biden.
Putin never would have invaded Ukraine if it weren't for Joe Biden and the weakness in the White House.
And we wouldn't have to be making these hard choices.
Do you hike rates and cause a recession or do you not do that and then allow potential hyperinflation?
That choice would have been unthinkable three years ago when inflation was one, one and a half percent.
This is why it's really dangerous.
You know, Barack Obama famously said, elections have consequences.
Yes, they do.
Somehow Joe Biden got into the White House and what a disaster it's been, not just for Arizona, but for the whole country and actually for the whole world.
So the guy you're running against was up in space for a long time and so he's he's known, et cetera, et cetera.
But he's not even, as Stu said, cinema.
Yeah, because I think there's this impression.
He's a well-known guy.
There's some sympathy for his family, the stuff they've had to go through, of course.
And then there is a situation where Kirsten Cinema's seen by the nation at least as this unkind of moderate, at least in words, if not actions.
And they kind of apply that to Mark Kelly, but Kelly's not that way.
And he hasn't earned it.
You know, two years ago, he promised he'd be independent.
He said, I'm not a partisan.
I'm an independent.
Okay, some people bought that and he got in.
Not by much, but he got in.
Now he's saying the same thing, but it's just a flat out lie.
Because if you look at his voting record, people fight, does he vote with Joe Biden 95% of the time or 98% of the time?
No, it's 100% of the time where it counts.
You never have to wonder which way he's going to vote.
And I actually do respect cinema.
I think she's too left.
I think she's too left-wing.
I'd rather have two conservative Republicans.
But credit where it's due, she said she'd be independent and where it really counts, like on protecting the filibuster or on build back better.
She spiked that.
She told Schumer to go pound sand and she took some arrows for it.
And that takes guts.
And that is the kind of independence of mind Arizonans want to see.
That's the Goldwater, John McCain, cinema, even though she's on the left side of the aisle.
And that's what I'll do.
Mark Kelly, he said he'd be independent and he lied.
And he's just a rubber stamp in the Senate for whatever Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden tell him to.
He is Chuck Schumer.
He is Chuck Schumer.
It's hard to tell them apart at all.
He's the third senator from New York.
He's the third senator from California.
And as a result, Arizona only has one senator right now.
I mean, it's really, really crazy.
So help me out on the border.
What has to happen here?
What is the difference between you and what we have going on?
You know, it's not that complicated.
We had a pretty stable, secure border three years ago.
Again, like you just have to, I think we need the wall.
We need to finish the wall.
We need to double or triple the size of Border Patrol and give those men and women. at the border all the resources they need.
But really, it's just political will.
It's just, hey, let's have a policy.
Here's a radical idea for you.
When illegal aliens try to break into our country, catch them, turn them over to ICE, and deport them back to their home country or some other country that wants them.
That's what we need to be doing.
Instead, Biden and Mark Kelly, he's voted for this every single time.
They like catch and release, where if you catch anybody, well, you just got to let them out.
Mark Kelly wants to resettle these people in working class cities and towns throughout Arizona and throughout the country.
And so as a result, just in the last 20 months, we've had 5 million illegals come here.
And it's not like Biden and Mark Kelly are trying to catch these people in Toronto.
They're not trying to enforce federal law.
They're willfully violating it, which I think is impeachable.
I've called for Biden and Maorkas to be impeached for this.
And Mark Kelly, just for this dereliction of duty at the southern border, he's voted against border security five separate times.
Just for that, I think he deserves to lose his job.
Who would you say will be your allies or you hope to ally with in the Senate?
Certainly Josh Hawley, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz.
You know, we have some good ones.
Tom Cotton is a little bit more hawkish than me, but I think domestically he's excellent.
We have some good ones.
What about Ukraine?
What would you be doing with Ukraine?
I'm very uncomfortable with this automatic reflex to just keep sending $12 billion every couple of weeks, just keep sending $12 billion.
And I tell people, Mark Kelly apparently cares more about Ukraine's border with Russia than our own border with Mexico because he's really focused on that.
He's given them all the money they need, but he can't even find 10 or 20 billion for border security here at home.
And people say that's a pro-Putin talking point.
No, it's ridiculous.
I think Putin's a madman.
I think he's a murderer.
I think the invasion was unjust.
It's bad.
It's like really bad.
But again, how did we even get here?
We got here because Putin G, they're bad guys, but they're not idiots.
They look at what happened in Afghanistan.
They saw Biden's weakness and Biden's surrender.
And Putin felt emboldened to do that, right?
Germany, they shut down all their working nuclear and they made themselves dependent on Russian oil and gas.
They gave up the leverage to Putin.
And you're a tech guy.
So you know how complex systems are.
I believe we can go green, not all at once, and not at this rate.
But I'm fine with going green if we're actually talking about going green.
Having a green car that you plug in to a coal-fire plant is not going green.
Well, it's amazing.
People think that, oh, electric cars are just so green.
Well, the battery is a storage technology.
It's not an energy source.
And cars being powered by coal, to your point, right?
You've seen when California's power grid was about to go off.
You saw people with very expensive electric cars plugging them into gas generators just to get the stuff.
Electric cars could be great, but like, you know, ultimately, I think we need nuclear.
And until we have nuclear, and who knows how long that's going to take, although we should be making investments now, we have oil and gas.
God bless this country with abundant natural resources.
The stuff actually gets cleaner, clean coal, fracking.
We should be drilling.
We should be fracking.
What you can't do is ideologically rush into the Green New Deal.
That's what Germany did.
Now they're going to, you know, they're begging for heating oil to heat their homes this winter.
And that's the kind of energy future that Mark Kelly in Arizona and Joe Biden are trying to drag us towards.
It doesn't work.
So what can be done?
What can be done?
What should be done?
You're in the Senate.
On energy?
Yeah.
On anything?
Well, I think stopping the war on fossil fuels.
Like, what did Biden think was going to happen?
This country is mostly powered by fossil fuels still, by oil and gas.
So if you declare war on oil and gas, you think that might make the cost of energy skyrocket?
Of course.
Of course.
They took gas from $2 to $6.
Now they want a metal because it's back down to like $5 in Phoenix, only because Biden, of course, is selling out oil from our strategic reserves, which is a national security.
It's crazy.
So stop the war on oil and gas, right?
Repeal the crazy regulations and start investing.
Start granting new oil and gas drilling permits, right?
Invest in nuclear.
We need to be building more nuclear power plants.
Do you think things are changing enough to be able to do that?
I mean, you know, we haven't built a new even refinery since like 1970.
Nukes are way too dangerous.
And it'll take you 20 years to with modern technology, they're not dangerous at all.
But we have, I've saw this in the private sector.
Very often we would find a nuclear tech startup, a talented nuclear physicist who wanted to be an entrepreneur instead of an academic.
And they'd come to us with a small modular reactor design, you know, and it's innovative in X, Y, or Z.
And so they could prove on a blackboard with math that you couldn't get a runaway nuclear chain reaction.
The problem is, and we're hungry to invest, right?
But then you do your diligence, including your regulatory diligence.
It turns out, yeah, the NRC hasn't approved a new nuclear power plant ever, basically.
And they've made innovation illegal.
There is no regulatory pathway to actually build a prototype that you can convince the government, hey, see, it's safe, we did it, because this kind of technology is basically just outlawed by fiat.
So it's like, what do you think is going to happen when you declare war on oil and gas, but then you make new sources, and nuclear is the cheapest, most abundant, safest source of energy, right?
It's the only carbon-free source of energy that works, you know, 24 hours a day.
solve any global warming problem and would also solve our energy problem.
And, you know, it's this is not new technology.
But we've made it really, really hard to pursue.
And that's the culture in D.C. that I want to change.
I know it's going to be frustrating to get in there.
I'm going to be one of 100 senators.
I can't just snap my fingers and the country's powered by nuclear.
But we need to be trying now so that in 30 years, when my little kids are my age, this country should be mostly powered by nuclear.
You say that you can't just snap your fingers and do things in this country, which was my understanding of the system the whole time.
But we do have a president who thinks you can take a trillion dollars in loan relief and just with the snap of his fingers, just do that without going to Congress.
We have set up, I think, a real weakening of our system.
I don't think we're constitutional Republicans.
Is there anything to be done about this?
I mean, this is incredibly unconstitutional.
What's especially, you're right, of course, and what's especially wild about that is five months ago, Nancy Pelosi agreed with you.
I mean, Speaker Pelosi, is Biden going to do this if Congress doesn't get its act together?
And she says, oh, he doesn't have the authority to do that.
His own Department of Education said they didn't have the authority to do that.
And five months later, Biden just does it.
It's just like he did with the CDC, right?
Halting the eviction moratorium.
His own White House lawyer said, sir, you can't.
This is the CDC.
It has nothing to do.
You can't just have them not allow landlords to collect rent.
It's kind of unconstitutional.
And Biden literally said, I don't care.
Let's do it.
Let's let them litigate it later.
And the Supreme Court said, hey, look, if you try this again, we're going to shoot it down.
And then he did it again anyway.
And they did eventually, you know, eventually we saw the right end there.
But I feel like right now we're at this situation where we have the courts that are the guardrail for our entire system of government.
And that's it.
That's a terrifying place to be.
It's why I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that Joe Biden and whatever forces are behind Joe Biden, right?
He doesn't know where he is half the time.
But when I say Biden, I mean the White House, that they're tyrants.
They really are.
Like when I read about the OSHA vaccine mandate, they were using the, I'm sorry, the occupational health and safety bureaucracy to push a federal vaccine mandate on everybody in the country.
I thought it was a Babylon B headline.
I thought it was satire because like they can't do that.
It's unconstitutional.
And I'm grateful the courts, of course, held that was unconstitutional.
But no, they don't care.
I remember my radicalization moment on how little the Democrats care about the Constitution was when they were passing Obamacare.
They asked Nancy Pelosi, well, where's the constitutional hook for this?
It used to be, you know, the Democrats would make some argument, oh, it's necessary and proper for XYZ.
It touches commerce.
And because of this court case in 1941, they would always pretend that this was constitutional.
Well, they asked Nancy Pelosi, where in the Constitution does it say you can tax somebody if they don't buy a product in the market?
And she laughed.
And she said, are you kidding me?
I remember I was just like, wow, now they don't even pretend that they have to follow the Constitution.
And how dangerous is that?
If somebody wants to help your campaign out, Blake Masters, do they just go to BlakeMasters.com?
They go to BlakeMasters.com.
They, in a patriotic spirit, get out their wallet and they donate lots of money to my campaign because this stuff isn't cheap.
Mark Kelly's bombarding me with the most vile, vicious, slanderous attack ads.
But, you know, we're fighting back.
David and Goliath type dynamic.
But as you said, it's close.
The Republicans tighten a lot.
Are they helping at all, the Senate with the Rick Scott and his senatorial committee, the NRSC, has actually been very helpful.
Mitch McConnell, of course, has the bigger pool of money with SLF.
They've canceled advertising, so they're not inclined to be helpful.
But everybody who can chip in $5 or $10, it does add up.