Jason Whitlock and Chris Wright join Glenn Beck to discuss Whitlock's new Blaze TV role promoting patriotism and proper American history featuring figures like James Armistead. They address COVID-19 lab leak theories involving Dr. Fauci and gain-of-function research while Wright counters Green New Deal claims by highlighting that North Face jackets rely on fossil fuels essential for medicine, food, and renewable energy infrastructure. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the economic and scientific naivety of anti-fossil fuel narratives versus their indispensable role in modern civilization. [Automatically generated summary]
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Today is the day.
I am so happy to be able to make this announcement.
I've been waiting for this announcement to happen.
Anybody who listens to this program or watches The Blaze, you might have picked up on this direction.
But today, The Blaze is thrilled to announce the addition of a new program on The Blaze and a new voice and a new writer.
Jason Whitlock is now joining Blaze TV.
He'll be on with us in about an hour.
I just wanted to give you, there's a story written by him on The Blaze.
It's the front page, big story, first story on theblaze.com.
I urge you to read it.
I want you to listen to what he said.
Fear is the enemy of truth, freedom, and the American dream.
I signed a contract to partner with Blaze Media on a digital media project dedicated to pushing back against the corporate-supported systematic effort to undermine America through racial division and fear.
I joined Blaze Media because I wanted to partner with people who wouldn't look at me funny when I referred to Jesus as part of my journalistic worldview and platform.
I joined Blaze Media because Glenn Beck smiled when I said Jesus is the only solution for what ails America.
Because Steve Dace wears his faith publicly, and so does Phil Robertson and Ali Beth Stuckey and others.
I want you to know I'm not a sports journalist turned preacher.
I'm not a finger-wagging hypocrite looking down on people who don't share my belief.
I'm a sinner.
I'm the same guy.
This is amazing.
I'm the same guy who wrote hilarious pussy galore columns for Fox Sports.
I'm the same guy who used to waste his time and money drinking, carousing inside the Spearmint Rhino in Las Vegas, Tootsies in Miami, Diamond Joe's in Kansas City, and Magic City in Atlanta.
We should talk about those sins, shouldn't we, when he's on Next Hour, Stu?
I'm someone who knows that in order for me to make better decisions in all aspects of my life, I need Jesus.
As someone who recognizes that any success I've achieved in the 30-year career is a byproduct of the values of my grandmother, a Chinese church in Indianapolis, my parents, my siblings, and all those things instilled in me as a young boy.
You're going to love Jason Whitlock.
He is starting a new program, and we'll have all of the details with him coming up in about an hour from now.
Also, another announcement that I'm very excited about.
Conversations with the 45th president.
It is the American History Tour, and it is going to be hosted by Bill O'Reilly.
And Bill O'Reilly will be joined on stage by President Trump.
It's dubbed the History Tour.
President Trump will provide a never-before-heard inside view of his administration, which will be historical in and of itself.
The tour will include four dates, kicks off in Sunrise, Florida, December 11th and 12th.
Other events slated for two Texas cities, Houston and Dallas, on December 18th and 19th.
These will be wonderful but hard-hitting sessions where we will talk about the real problems happening in the U.S. that those fake news media seems to never mention.
I'll be focusing on the greatness of our country, something seldom discussed in political dialogue.
If we don't make our country great again, we will soon no longer have a country.
That's from President Trump, and he's going to be working with Bill O'Reilly.
And this should be very, very fun.
I'm excited to talk to him about that and so much more on Friday.
Now, why is the tour with President Trump and Bill O'Reilly important?
Some will mock it, and they'll say that Bill O'Reilly, he's not a journalist.
Yes, he is.
Bill O'Reilly, he's just a right-wing hack.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
You can say a lot of things about Bill O'Reilly, and I have.
But a right-wing hack is not one of them.
Bill O'Reilly, many times has, as you know, if you ever watched us or listened to us, many times he disagrees.
I may be a right-wing hack, but he's not.
And for someone to actually set the record straight as a journalist with Bill O'Reilly, even though it's only in a theater, is important because no one else will.
Did you see what happened yesterday, Stu, when Twitter went crazy with people saying, Donald Trump is so out of control, he was wearing his pants on backwards at his latest rally?
No, I missed.
I missed Pants on Backwards Gate.
Oh, did you really?
I did.
Did you honestly?
Yeah.
It was everywhere yesterday.
The left was claiming that Donald Trump was where he was so out of control that he was wearing his pants on backward.
He's a private citizen now.
He can wear his pants on backward if he wants to, but I assume he wasn't.
He wasn't wearing his.
He was not wearing his pants backward.
But this is how crazy it has gotten.
You can have Joe Biden out there going, well, COVID in the last hundred years, it killed a billion people.
And they don't say a thing.
Donald Trump comes out and they're like, let's say he was wearing his pants on backwards.
And people believe it.
People believe it is so crazy.
So crazy.
What's happening with Fauci?
I know you've been gone for a couple of days.
Where are you standing on Fauci?
Because I bet it's not the same place I'm at.
I mean, I just don't care.
I don't know why we're so obsessed with the guy.
I'm bored with Fauci, frankly.
But he's a guy that doesn't have any power of his own.
So he's just he's he his power comes from the media, largely.
Now, of course, Biden has empowered him maybe, you know, to make I mean, he can't make policy, right?
He can't.
He is not in a position to make policy.
So the fact that he comes out and makes dumb recommendations on MSNBC every three days is not all that interesting to me.
But I do understand why it's important to understand because of his general media influence and the positions he's been given by the last couple of administrations in that sense.
It is important to understand where his head was at the time.
I think it goes deeper than that.
Are you familiar with Christian Anderson?
Yes.
And what's happened with this?
Yeah.
Scientists.
So let me give a rundown of this.
He is a virologist.
His name is Christian Anderson.
He wrote to Dr. Fauci responding to an article titled Mining Coronavirus Genomes for Clues to the Outbreak's Origins.
Fauci told Anderson, quote, it's of interest to the current discussion.
Anderson replied, some features do look engineered.
I should mention that after discussion earlier today, Eddie, Bob, Mike, and myself all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory.
So in other words, what he's saying here, and he was a big guy on, it came from the lab at the beginning, Christian Anderson, big guy on, came from the lab, came from the lab, had to, because of evolutionary theory, which means it started someplace, it got into bats, then bats passed it to another animal, and then another animal passed it to humans, and it changes every time to make it easier.
Well, this one went from supposedly bats to humans.
Rare, not impossible, but rare.
But then they started looking at it and they started seeing markers that were not evolutionary.
They were spliced in.
It appeared.
Yeah.
That it was spliced in.
In all of the most convenient places if it was going to be engineered through like a gain of function research type of situation.
Correct.
Correct.
So he said COVID-19 appears to be manipulated in a lab.
That's when Fauci says, hey, we need to talk soon.
I'll call you.
The next day, Fauci sent an urgent email to his deputy with the subject line important.
And he wrote, Hugh, it's essential that we speak this morning.
Keep your cell phone on.
Read this paper as well as the email I will forward.
You have tasks today that must be done.
We don't know what those tasks were.
Maybe it was just, hey, I need some more soap.
The document attached was the SARS gain of function PDF.
So right after one of Fauci's trusted scientific advisors suggests COVID-19 could be man-made, while Fauci and associates dismiss the possibility as a conspiracy theory, he shot a research paper concerning the gain of function research, which Fauci was funding at the Wuhan Institute of Virology to his deputy.
Eight weeks later, Anderson reverses course.
He writes a paper calling into doubt whether COVID-19 was engineered.
He didn't rule it out, but he made the apparent consensus earlier muddy.
Now, it's interesting because just a couple of months later, Anderson would receive the first installment of a five-year grant of nearly $2 million per year.
The guy who had been receiving the NAI funding in the past, Peter Dasek, he was funding the Wuhab lab.
He also received $1.5 million.
Dasek has been rigorously trying to claim that the lab leak possibility is nothing more than a conspiracy theory.
In fact, he actually emailed Dr. Fauci to thank him for helping shooting all that down.
And I'm sure the funds that he was directing to the Wuhan lab had nothing to do with gain of function.
Oh, yes, it did.
Christian Anderson has also come out publicly on Twitter attempting to put doubt in the lab leak theory.
Remember, the theory that was the consensus among him and his peers back in January 20th.
He's been on a Twitter crusade using the platform to sow lab leak doubt.
Here's where it gets even more interesting.
Over the weekend, Anderson's tweets before March 7th of this year began to disappear.
Over 5,000 of his tweets are gone.
Then when people started saying, hey, he's erasing his history, something else disappeared.
His entire blue check Twitter account.
Now, smoking gun, you got a lot of things that look bad, but is it a smoking gun?
I don't know.
I do know that Barack Obama outlawed the gain of function.
He said no money is to go to that.
Fauci made sure money after Trump was elected, money went to the gain of function, but is denied that any of that money went to gain of function.
He said, I gave it to these people.
And what they did with it, I'm not really sure.
I mean, I wasn't saying, bull crap.
He was for gain of function.
He has been for gain of function research.
And he is for other labs doing it.
He was for the Wuhan lab doing it.
By the way, your dentist has about the same kind of security as the bioweapons level two lab had in Wuhan.
So Fauci in 2000, I think it was 2012, had an opinion paper where he basically outlined that he understood the huge risks of this.
Our own Tyler Cardin here at the Blaze, who's a great follow on Twitter as well, hit this long before it was being reported in the conservative media.
And he put the study out there.
And that study showed that Fauci was even new.
He was aware of the dangers of this and was worried about it and still wound up directing funds to an organization that was directing funds to gain of function research in Wuhan.
It is a, I mean, look, there's a lot to question here, I think.
And as you point out, there's not like a smoking gun, but there is, you know, like you want to know what is the reason for the switch in opinion.
It could be that the scientists had an opinion early on and saw expanded information and believes that their initial opinion was wrong.
I mean, that does happen.
But it also just a coincidence that he got five years of funding in his first installment of $2 million, you know, just a couple of months after, you know, being on record over and over and over again saying that that's not true.
The African American Journey00:08:20
It also could be that Dr. Fauci had no idea that EcoHealth Alliance had funneled $600,000 to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to study coronaviruses in bats,
something that Fauci wanted desperately to happen, which is weird because it was his group that gave EcoHealth Alliance the $600,000 to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
I mean, I just, I think the guy is, if we lived in a world where justice actually happened, I think this guy might end up in jail because I think he has lied to the American people over and over again.
And I think there was something, there was a big cover-up on this.
That's my opinion.
We'll watch to see what happens.
And unfortunately, in the old days, you would have to wait for the media to do it.
Well, thanks to you, places like the Blaze Media and others are on the case.
And we don't wait around for them anymore.
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Well, we have an announcement today that I have been waiting for.
And I am bummed that I'm out of town, that I can't be there and stand shoulder to shoulder with Jason Whitlock, who is now a new Blaze TV host, the host of Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
Jason, welcome, brother.
Thank you.
And it's awesome to be here.
I've been waiting just as long as you have, but it finally came together.
The day is finally here.
Yes.
So tell us what Fearless is, why it's going to be different, and even different really from anything the Blaze has ever seen.
Well, look, I don't know.
The goal is going to be the same.
We're going to be a digital media platform dedicated to promoting a culture of fearlessness, free speech, true seeking, and American patriotism.
And I think that's what everybody at the Blaze is trying to do.
We're just going to probably be a little more melanin rich as we do it.
Maybe on the surface, look a little different.
Right.
I think we're all going to be, or most of us will be united by our faith in God and our belief in country.
and a belief like that, hey man, this can't go on much farther.
We can't continue to strip America of what made it great.
And that was our Judeo-Christian culture.
And it's being stripped and taken from us.
And I want to go at this and just point it out and try to bring to people Christian faith, our secret weapon, combined with the American journey here in America, in terms of making America live up to the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence.
and the Constitution.
And so I was talking to a loved one and a family member yesterday, and they were saying, you know, we just need to be taught black history.
And I'm like, no, we need to be taught American history properly.
Yes.
And because you're separating us from America, and that's wrong.
Because if America really understood its history and understood the role that African Americans have played in making America great, in this, the greatest human experiment we've ever seen,
if not for the African American journey and what people of faith compelled, forced America to do, to live up to our espoused Christian faith and the things we said in the Declaration of Independence.
And so we are baked into American greatness.
And if everybody understood that, we'd quit separating ourselves along this black, white, racial divide and understand that we accomplished these things together.
And yes, there was pain and there was struggle and there was unfairness, but what we accomplished over the course of these 250-some-odd years is incredible.
It's unmatched across the globe.
And we need to take pride in that.
The African American journey does not damn America.
It explains America and our unprecedented resolve to do better.
You know, I am so glad to hear you talk about we don't need to learn African-American history.
We need to learn American history properly.
I'm going to ask you a question, and I bet you don't know.
Who is the fallen soldier that is credited as the reason the American Revolution started?
Do you know?
It's not Christmas.
Christmas Addicts?
Yes, good, good, good, good.
You got that one.
Most Americans might know that one.
Who was the African American that ended the revolution, that was critical and ended it?
Don't know that one.
James Armistead.
He was a spy for George Washington, and he went in and was undercover with the British, said, I am an escaped slave, and oh, they're just treating me so horribly.
They believed him.
He became instrumental in the hierarchy as an assistant in the British Army.
He got word where Cornwallis was going to be.
He sent it to Washington.
Washington was there unbeknownst to Cornwallis, and that's what ended the war.
We have the ending of that war to thank James Armistead for ending it and ending the bloodshed.
By the way, the guy who saved the American military very early on, I think it was at the Battle of Yorktown, was Peter Salem, another black guy.
He took the shot that all Americans were running because they were just routing us.
He stood his ground.
He had one shot left.
He shot the commander of the British Army in the head.
That stopped them pushing.
Otherwise, they would have routed us and we would have had no soldiers left.
There are three examples of American history that revolve around very important black American citizens that nobody knows.
Glenn, I can't off the top of my head call the name, but George Washington and these guys were trapped somewhere, and I think it was a smallpox epidemic that ran through them.
And it was an African slave that taught them to cut a wound and put the smallpox in the womb.
It was the first vaccine, basically.
And our contribution to America's history and ascension is unquestioned.
It's just untaught.
It's underappreciated.
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We think the left has turned the African American journey into its own, it can only be explained by tragedy.
It can only be explained by what white bigots did to us.
Again, it's like we haven't been participants in America's greatness.
We've only been participants in suffering.
And that's a joke.
And it's racist to teach history that way.
You're basically assigning us to a place where we have no agency.
We're less than human.
We're not as courageous.
We're not as fearless.
We're not as motivated as anybody else.
We're just victims.
It's wrong.
It's got to be untaught.
People have to, black and white people, we need to see our necessariness of each other, that we have made each other great.
And we've been an incredible combination that has slayed the world.
And the world realizes it.
That's why they're trying to pit us against each other and promote all this racial division.
So let me ask you this.
The Journal of American Psychoanalytic Association just published a peer-reviewed research article that says being white is a malignant, parasitic-like condition.
It's dangerous, discriminatory, and a perverse mental condition.
Parasitic whiteness has the power without limit, force without restriction, violence without mercy.
It has a drive to hate and terrorize.
It easily infiltrates, infiltrates even groups founded on the protection of individuals and democratic principles.
And it has no long-term or permanent cure.
That's just racism.
That's in medicine now.
It's paid for racism and propaganda.
It speaks to, to me, to China's influence over American culture and all of our institutions that I don't believe the people that wrote it believe it, but I believe they are benefiting.
They believe they're benefiting by promoting that type of bigotry and nonsense.
And look, I believe that the globalists, the elites, they prefer China's system of governance.
And they want us to adopt that.
And so, look, and I related to sports, and you mentioned LeBron James being the most hated NBA player or whatever.
America Needs China's System00:08:04
But for LeBron James, when he goes to China, he's treated like a king.
They shower him with affection, love, money, adoration, blah, blah, blah.
And so he thinks, what's the matter with China?
This is great.
America needs to be more like China.
There are more basketball fans, and there's a more passionate love affair with basketball in China than in America.
And so for LeBron James, who's worth a half billion dollars or whatever, China and their system is great.
And he thinks, well, why shouldn't that be like, it should be like this over here in America?
Look how great I'm being treated.
But the overwhelming majority of Americans and the overwhelming majority of Americans with black skin, they're not 6'8 NBA stars.
And so I wish we could shrink LeBron James down to 5'10 and send him over to China and see how he gets treated when he's not a billionaire NBA superstar.
Jason Whitlock, now officially a Blaze TV host of Fearless.
You already have the Apple podcast out, episode 0.
What do people need to do to find you and make sure that you are growing at a very rapid race, a race, rapid pace, oh my gosh, on Apple podcasts?
Well, they need to go hit that subscribe button, provide a rating.
Episode 0 is just a conversation between me and Uncle Jimmy.
Many people know Uncle Jimmy's my sidekick from radio in Kansas City and television at Fox Sports.
And he's joining with me at The Blaze and The Fearless to be my sidekick there.
He just interviews me in episode zero.
We probably go for an hour, hour, and 20 minutes, but it'll give you an indication of what the show and what the platform and what we're trying to accomplish and walks you through some of my history.
And he asked me questions about what's transpired with me the past couple years at Fox Sports and Outkick.
But go check that out.
It's just warming you up for the launch of the podcast, the official launch on July 6th.
I think is when the first episode will come out.
We'll do that from here in Nashville, Tennessee.
But just hit that subscribe button and leave a comment, a rating, a remark, a review, and we'll just get the momentum rolling.
Yeah.
And when do you do a TV show?
Have you announced that 10th?
July 6th.
July 6th.
It'll be on the Blaze.
Yeah.
See, we're celebrating July 4th on the 5th because the 4th falls on a Sunday.
And so we're going to start the day after our Independence Day celebration and be a great kickoff day.
What a great addition you are to the Blaze.
I'm thrilled.
Jason Whitlock, formerly a VSPN of Fox Sports.
And what was the other one?
I'm sorry, I can't remember the last one.
Oh, kick.
I've been a little everywhere.
Kansas City star for 16 years as a columnist.
And, you know, I think this is going to be the greatest thing I do in my career because I think I'm going to get to be the full version of Jason Whitlock.
And I think anybody that's following me knows that, you know, I'm humorous or like to laugh.
You know, Jason, people say all the time, at least they used to, that Glenn Beck controls all of the shows.
Do I even know what your show really is?
Have I talked to played a role in any of that at all?
Not at all, other than you.
You've been the light to say that.
You've been a light in terms of inspiring me and making me.
Look, when I came to Dallas one of those trips and you took me over to the museum and showed me original documents from Thomas Jefferson, you have no idea what an impact that had on me.
And just, I just think it's important for those of us that are believers, we got to support each other and we got to work together.
And we have to be the example that America needs right now.
And through that, just by us doing our little part, it'll have a huge impact on the rest of the country.
Jason Whitlock, I'm thrilled, thrilled to have you part of the Blaze.
Thrilled to be your coworker.
Thank you so much.
God bless.
God bless.
Jason Whitlock, his show, Fearless with Jason Whitlock is on Apple iPod and God, I can't even think straight for some reason now.
And Spotify, you can listen to episode zero right now, wherever you get your podcast.
Make sure that you subscribe, rate, and review.
That helps that to be discovered by other people.
This is a great, great addition to the Blaze.
He is truly fearless.
He has been called everything.
I mean, the guy helped create Fox Sports and divisions at ESPN.
He is a mover and shaker who is now on the outs because he won't toe the line.
And he is truly fearless on that.
And I think you're going to see an even more fearless Jason Whitlock than you ever have before because he owns it.
This is him.
He doesn't have to play by anybody else's rules.
These are his rules.
Fearless.
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I, every day, am looking for people who are standing up and doing things, be it small or big, but just standing up with the power that they have and whatever that is.
just doing their part of standing for the truth and saying, no, this is a lie and I'm not going to go along with it.
Those are the people that are going to actually save our country and our culture and quite honestly, the truth.
You are going to love this guy.
His name is Chris Wright.
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He's the CEO of Liberty Oil Field Services.
Let me just give you a little bit of his background.
He has spoken on energy to the UK House of Lords, State's Attorney General, federal and state judges, debated the merits of Shale Revolution on TV, given over 100 talks.
He's undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering at MIT, graduate work in electrical engineering at both UC Berkeley and MIT.
He has consulted and taught courses on all six inhabited continents and authored or co-authored over 60 technical papers and articles.
He has received numerous industry awards, several U.S. patents.
He's worked on fusion energy, solar energy, and geothermal energy.
He grew up in California, I'm sorry, in Colorado, and is passionate as skiing, cycling, climber.
He's an outdoor guy, but I'm not going to hold that against him.
Welcome to the program, Chris.
How are you?
Thanks, Glenn.
Glad to be here.
Very glad to be here.
Okay.
So tell the audience what you have done with billboards in Colorado.
Well, Northface, which makes awesome outdoor apparel that I've been using for years, and they made a bunch of jackets for my company two years ago, proudly co-branded Liberty and Northface.
And then this year, I don't know why, but they changed their policy and another company tried to make outdoor jackets from Northface with their logo on it.
And Northface chose not to do that, saying essentially they didn't want to associate with oil and gas.
And I've been for years trying to get a real honest dialogue about energy going.
So we took this opportunity to point out that Northface jackets are made out of oil and gas, almost completely made out of oil and gas.
So how can you choose not to associate with something that's the essential material that you make your equipment out of?
So we put a billboard up saying that.
And Glenn, Glenn, sorry, I'm talking too long.
But we put up a billboard.
The billboard says that Northface puffer looks good on you.
It's made out of fossil fuels.
Thank you.
And most billboard companies did not want to run that billboard.
They thought it was controversial.
Facebook put a hold on this brief video just saying the jacket looks good.
This is what it's made of.
In today's world, that is controversial.
And it's strange that they can hold you back from saying the absolute truth.
You're not saying anything bad about Northface.
You're just saying, look, most of the fabrics, most of our clothing in the world is made out of fossil fuels.
It is.
If fossil fuels weren't around today, so many millions of people would die almost overnight because your medicine, a lot of the medicines, the capsules, all made from petrochemicals.
Some of the things that we put on for fertilizer and also to keep the bugs from eating all of it, petrochemicals, everything.
If we took petrochemicals out, how long would we survive, Chris?
Well, likely half of the world would die certainly within a year or two.
Food production would drop 60% just getting rid of the natural gas that's used to synthesize nitrogen and pesticides.
That's not even counting factories and tractors and transportation.
So yeah, food supply would drop rapidly as grain stocks depleted.
Yeah, certainly it would be mass deaths.
But Glenn, I agree very.
Wait a minute, wait, We would be reduced by 60%, and that's not including the transportation that uses fuel?
That's correct.
Just food production, food production would drop by 60%.
You're right.
The total impacts would be even worse than that because the remaining 40% of the food without fossil fuels, how would we transport it across the oceans?
How would we get it in trucks to towns and villages and trains?
So yeah, the real impact would be much worse than 60% of humanity dying.
So look, I love fossil fuels.
And as you said so nicely, Glenn, there's nothing wrong with North Face building their clothes out of fossil fuels.
In fact, it's fantastic.
They're cheap, simple materials that have sort of taken the pressure a little bit off.
Cotton and wool are the other big natural fabrics.
Of course, we couldn't grow cotton and wool in the magnitudes we do today without fossil fuels for tractors, for shipping, for spinning, for the manufacture of it.
So, you know, my whole point, and I think you've made it already, is fossil fuels aren't bad.
They aren't hurting the world.
In fact, they're enabling these wonderful lives we have in the modern world.
And we should celebrate that, and we should work our butts off so the last third of people living in virtual energy poverty can get these modern energy conveniences, these modern products, so they can have the wonderful lives we have.
That's the real crisis.
So when you see things like the Green New Deal, what do you think?
It's nuts because it won't meaningfully change the energy mix of where we get energy from in the world, but it will make energy more expensive.
It will make the electricity grid less reliable.
You know, we'll spend trillions of dollars doing it.
So I think it's hard to make a case that really is going to better people's lives.
And so that's, you know, just people tend to be naive about energy.
It's become very political, very dogmatic.
And of course, you know, what good comes out of that?
When we think about, you know, they talk about a world without fossil fuels.
You can't even, you wouldn't be able to sow without fossil fuels, the oil that is used in just lubricating simple things.
You wouldn't be able to do these things.
So when they say a world without fossil fuels and we're going to be all on solar and wind, which is nonsense, have you ever heard anyone address what we do besides go back to whale oil?
Yeah, Clinton, it's just unfortunate.
It's just a misinformed dialogue.
And to follow up on your point, it's simply impossible to build a wind turbine or a solar farm without fossil fuels.
There's over 100 tons of coal inside of every tower of every wind turbine.
The blades are made out of oil and gas.
They're manufactured in plants about oil and gas.
They're installed with giant cranes powered by diesel and trains that deliver these giant things to assemble them.
So wind power itself couldn't exist without fossil fuels.
And if you look at the last sort of 20 years, the world has spent a few trillion dollars on wind and solar, a lot of it subsidies, some of it real investment money, but they provide somewhere between 2% to 3% of world energy.
I'm for all energy sources.
Solar certainly got a role to play in the world.
And if any other new energy technology comes along, fantastic.
But you're right that this sort of naive belief that in 10 years or 30 years, you know, we're going to spend some trillions of dollars and get rid of fossil fuels, that's simply unphysical.
It's simply not going to happen.
Whether it's good or bad is a different argument, but it's definitely not going to happen.
Do you have I saw a list once, and I don't know where I saw it, and I wish I could find it again.
All of the things that petrochemicals are responsible for, there's just the inventions that would have to be hatched, the patents that would have to be filed, the ideas that would have to be completely changed, the new substance to replace it that has not been invented yet.
It is almost in everything in our life.
So when we think of fossil fuels, we're not just thinking cars.
Oh, it's very personal to me.
I wouldn't be alive today.
I never would have celebrated my 14th birthday party if not for oil and gas.
I'm type 1 diabetic, so my pancreas stopped working when I was 13 years old.
That's a death sentence.
You've got a few weeks, maybe a few months throughout all of human history.
Only 100 years ago, because of modern medicine, wealth, travel for conferences, plastics, which are essential, as you already mentioned, for making drugs and pharmaceuticals, without all of those things, I never would have got to 14.
Think of the COVID.
Think of battling COVID.
All that personal protective equipment, all those medical gowns and masks and everything.
They're all made out of oil and gas.
Even the carrier fluid in the vaccine itself that's injected into people's arms, that is oil and gas.
So yeah, petrochemicals are just essential to modern life.
They're one of the just truly awesome things that come from oil and gas, independent of energy.
15% of oil is used in materials, not in energy.
So when you put the Northface billboards up, hey, Northface puffer looks great on you, made from fossil fuels, thanks.
What was the response?
Have you had any response from Northface?
No response from Northface.
And you know, look, I should say, I think North Face is more a symptom than a cause of this problem.
You know, we just live in a world and think of Green New Deal where people can say just nonsensical things about energy and everyone else will repeat them and believe they're true or sort of true.
And so in kids, kids are taught today, you know, that oil and gas are evil and climate change is going to end the world in 10 years.
It's a crisis.
Kids have nightmares over this.
And so we're preaching a narrative that's just a long way away from reality.
We've just published a report, Glenn, on the Liberty website called Bettering Human Lives.
And it just goes over where does the world get energy?
What is this issue with energy poverty?
A third of humans are cooking their daily meals, burning wood, dung, or agricultural waste inside their house or their hut.
You know, this kills millions of people.
And climate change, of course, is a real phenomenon, but it's a slow-moving, relatively modest problem compared to poverty, energy poverty, malnutrition, and a number of other things that the world is making great progress on.
But if we make energy more expensive and less reliable, we're going to slow that progress.
So in any case, we tried to put some perspective around it, but perspective or sobriety is very rare in the energy world these days, unfortunately.
Yeah.
You can find that, I assume, at thankunorthface.com?
Well, it's at the libertyfrack.com website.
We've got to put a pointer there to get you from there.
Okay.
LibertyFrac.com?
What is it?
Yes.
Yeah, LibertyFrack.
Yeah, LibertyFrack.com.
And the report's called Bettering Human Lives.
Thank you so much.
I'm sure we will be running into each other again.
I love what you're doing.
You know, you say it's North Face is just a symptom.
No, every single one of us have the opportunity and, quite honestly, the responsibility to not make money off of lies, but instead to say, let's slow down here.
This is right.
This is wrong.
I believe this.
I believe that.
But not to further lies and especially to profit off of those lies is ugliness.