Rick Perry and Glenn Beck dissect the "war on energy," warning that OPEC manipulation threatens American independence while proposing a $15–20 billion Treasury oil futures purchase. They critique media bias against Trump, debate inflated COVID-19 death counts, and promote Modern Monetary Theory through satirical character Professor Tweed. The discussion challenges reopening plans, citing Ohio foot traffic data and the Imperial College model to argue for localized strategies over federal mandates, ultimately framing the pandemic response as a battle between economic freedom and government overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
A war between Saudi Arabia, Russia, and quite honestly, Texas, Texas and maybe Pennsylvania.
It is the war on energy and energy independence.
If you've seen the price of gasoline lately, you ain't seen nothing yet.
They're saying that oil could go down to $10 a barrel.
The last time that happened, the Soviet Union collapsed.
What does it mean for the future of energy independence in America?
What is really happening?
Former governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary, Rick Perry, joins us in one minute.
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He was the former governor of Texas, great governor of Texas, former U.S. Energy Secretary.
His name is Rick Perry.
He joins us now.
Rick, I have to tell you that I think what should lead on your resume is the guy who forged the path to American energy independence.
Thank you for that.
Well, that's nice of you to say, but the fact is it was those independent operators out there that day in and day out went out and took advantage of what the message was from the president, which was, you know, get out of their way.
Don't over-regulate them.
Don't over-tax them.
We obviously figured that out pretty early on in Texas.
This president clearly saw that if you won't get in the way of the fossil fuel industry, if you will give Texans, and for that matter, people from North Dakota and Pennsylvania and Louisiana, if you'll give them the opportunity to go explore, they will use their technology, their innovation, and they will flourish.
And that's exactly what we did, Glenn, is America became the number one oil and gas producing country in the world.
As a matter of fact, December 1st was my last day on the job, 2019 as Secretary of Energy.
And the information, the Energy Information Agency, announced that day that America, for the first time in 70 years, was a net exporter of energy.
What a fabulous statement to make for this administration, what this president did.
And now we see it all put into jeopardy.
And we see it put into jeopardy because of something that, you know, if anybody saw this coming, I'm going to call BS on them.
Glenn, I can promise you.
Go ahead.
Well, I was just going to say, the Saudis and the Russians were having their OPEC meeting.
And listen, OPEC's been around since we've seen them manipulating the market.
That's what they do.
That's just a reality of life.
I'm not going to say it's good, bad, or indifferent.
It just is what it is.
And they were meeting.
The Russians are hurting.
Russians are hurting financially, partly because they tried to manipulate the energy market in Europe and try to be the only source.
That would have been very good for them from their perspective.
But the U.S. saw the danger in the European countries only having to rely upon Russian energy.
Therefore, we were against this Nardstrom II pipeline, which would have really put Europe in jeopardy from the Russian and standpoint energy reliancy on Russia.
So we came out very strong against that.
The president laid the law down, and the Russians really hurting economically, they go back into this OPEC-plus meeting with the Saudis some 30-plus days ago, and the Saudis are continuing to restrict production to keep the price of oil in that, you know, I don't know what it was in those days, high 30s, low 40s, it may have been above that.
It's moved around so much lately.
But the point is this: the Russians said, nope, we ain't doing this anymore.
And my understanding was that it was a very heated conversation between the Saudi minister, the Russian minister, and they walked away.
Russia said, we're going to go produce.
And the Saudi said, oh, okay.
We'll see who's got the biggest said here.
Yeah, who can last the longest?
And Monday, that next Monday, they announced a $7 to $8 decrease in the cost of crude, and the market started down.
No one, I think, saw at that particular point in time COVID-19 coming in and being this global pandemic.
There may have been some people in hindsight that are saying it, but I certainly was not seeing it or hearing it at that particular point in time.
That caused a complication of massive proportion where economies start to be shut down.
The demand on the oil and gas industry basically is dried up.
Aviation fuel down 91%.
This was two weeks ago.
Gasoline demand down 50% that same timeframe.
So this has been a compounding issue here.
And Glenn, I wish I could tell you that we could snap our fingers.
We get this pandemic out of the way and we go back to the rosy economic picture that we had in one of the strongest economies, if not the strongest economy that America has ever had just six weeks ago.
But I can't say that.
Here's what I can say, though.
That this pandemic, as we work towards finding the solution to move us farther away from the peak desks, the peak people who are being affected by it, we're not going to find a vaccine anytime in the near future.
But there are things that we can do.
And there's some pretty exciting stuff out there I want to talk about if I can before I get out of here because I spent as much time on the COVID-19, partly because people don't make the connection between the Department of Energy and medicine.
And they should because the DOE operates the supercomputers at the national labs.
And those supercomputers are coming up with some fascinating theories that may be more than theories, that may be actuality and how to deal with this and to conquer it substantially quicker than historically how you would have dealt with the pandemic.
But let me go back to the energy side of it a second.
And this is going to be demand-driven.
We're going to see some pretty rough next 30 days in the oil and gas business.
I think I don't know what West Texas Intermediate opened at.
I want to say around $23 yesterday.
Brent, the North Atlantic crude was about $32.
That's a big spread between those two.
It's normally closer than that.
But one of the reasons is because the transportation cost, and one of the reasons is because the U.S. shell producers are so efficient.
We basically produced massive amounts.
We were right at, I want to say we were right at 13 million barrels a day that we were producing.
I mean, think about that.
13 million barrels a day.
The estimate that came out yesterday by the Energy Information Agency is that we're going to be down about 1.6, 1.8.
So let's say 11 billion barrels a day.
What does this mean for the energy independence?
What does it mean for the oil producers here in America?
You said last week that you thought oil in Texas would collapse.
What does this really mean?
The statement that I made is if the government, and you know me, I'm basically in a perfect world as a free market.
We're not in a perfect world.
We're seeing not only the manipulation of the market by the Saudis and by the Russians, but also you've got this pandemic.
So there is a time that government steps in and government is very much needed.
This is it, if there's ever been one, to save the independent producer.
I will tell you, Glenn, if we lose the independent producer in America, and I'm not talking about just Texans, yeah, we got more of them than anybody else, but North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, if you lose that independent producer, we could wake up in a year, literally in a year.
And there are four major oil companies in the world that control all of the production.
ExxonMobil, Aramco, Rosnef, which is the Russian company, and maybe BP and Chevron, you know, maybe four or five.
I mean, that scares me to death as an American to have five companies that could literally control the tap of energy for the world.
Just think of this back in 1974.
Absolutely.
And I was a pilot of the United States Air Force in 1974, and I remember how daunting that period of time was for America from the standpoint of, wait a minute, people who have our interest in their hands may not have our best interest in mind.
And from a national defense standpoint, if nothing else, I mean, you could see gas prices literally $5 or $6 a gallon.
I mean, I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.
If the Russians and the Saudis decide to turn that cap off, go ask the Ukrainians what it's like.
It's at the hands of Russia.
They will manipulate that energy.
I guarantee you they will.
So what has to happen, Rick?
Is the president moving towards helping?
Okay.
I think the president is open.
He's obviously been on the phone to the minister, Abdulzaiz bin Solomon.
He's been on the phone to the Crown Prince, MBS.
He's talked to Putin.
And the Secretary of Energy, Dan Bruette, he has been directly in conversations with the Russians and the Saudis from the standpoint of how we deal with this.
But here are two things that I mentioned these last week, and I still think they are worth having an in-depth conversation.
And I hope the president will take a look at them and consider them.
One is to, for 60 to 90 days, this isn't from now on, but for 60 to 90 days, direct the refineries, and I think he can do it through an executive order.
It would be my bad.
Send the message to the refineries.
You don't refine anything but American sourced crude.
Now, that'll do two things.
Number one, it'll shore up that market, give it a floor, if you will, help it keep it from going down anymore.
And I kind of like the idea of using American crude.
I don't have a problem with that.
Now, there are those out there that say, well, you can't do that because you've got to have this certain blend that the sour crude comes from Saudi.
You know what?
We can manage that.
We can manage that.
You know, you may want to waive the Jones Act so that we can move oil from one port in the United States to another port in the United States, not have to rely upon a U.S. flagged.
I've always thought that the Jones Act in times of great national security ought to be waived.
And I don't care whose vessel you're using.
Move it from this port to this port to get it closer to the refinery.
Get that Canadian oil down through our pipeline system.
You can manage that.
The second thing, Glenn, that I think would make a massive difference, and it's a good business practice, and if Donald Trump is nothing, he's a good businessman.
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He thinks in how do you do a deal?
Have the treasury go by, let's pitch out a good number, 15 to 20 billion dollars worth of oil futures.
Now, number one, what do you bet that oil is going to be higher in 2021 and 2022?
That's probably a lot.
Yeah.
It's probably a pretty good bet.
So if you bought oil futures today, then you would be sitting on a good investment.
Plus, that would put a floor on these oil prices.
So I think there are two things that the administration could do to be very powerful over and above what they've already done from the standpoint of talking to these countries and saying, hey, listen, we're not going to allow you to destroy the shell producer, the independent operator in America, because it's the one thing that keeps us from being controlled by energy companies that don't necessarily have our best interest in mind.
Rick, I've got less than a minute.
Just real quick, I don't need to get into the weeds on this.
April 14th, the Texas Railroad Commission is meeting to do something possibly they haven't done since the 70s, which is curb oil production.
Is that going to happen?
I think there's a real possibility that the Commission could take that step.
And when you think about that, if this is the movement that needs to occur, again, all of us, we're free market folks, but this is extraordinary times.
How do you save that American?
I mean, let me tell you, the Texas budget, oh my God, I can't imagine how bad the Texas budget is going to be.
The severance tax is going to be in the tank, you know, with this pandemic and the sales tax revenues.
I mean, there's no telling.
It may be 25, 30% lower revenues coming in than what they've got to spend.
It's going to be the toughest legislative session from a budget standpoint, potentially in the history of the state.
So everything that the state can do right now, right now, they need to be having that conversation about.
And I would suggest that Texas doing its part to restrict for some period of time the production of crude might be a very thoughtful thing.
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All right.
Rick Perry, thank you so much for everything.
Thanks for coming on the program.
Former U.S. Energy Secretary, the guy who I think is responsible along with the Trump administration to bring us energy independence.
It's a lot of his policies as governor of Texas that helped the oil industry actually figure out and be free enough to make us energy independent.
Thank you so much, Rick.
I appreciate it.
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Sales tax.
Sales tax.
How did I not think of sales tax?
You think your business is cut?
Think of the state, all of the sales tax.
We're mostly shopping online.
No sales tax.
Except here where we do have it, but most states don't.
Right.
Most states don't.
I mean, it's that is going to be a huge pounding.
Oh, yeah.
This is not going to be good.
You know, it's funny because people go back and forth and try to, everyone tries to be an instant online epidemiologist as we go through this.
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I want to start with something that I heard from ABC News.
I heard it from CNN and others.
Let me just use Don Lemon.
Don Lemon and what's his face?
Fever boy over at CNN Cuomo in the morning.
He's not in the morning, by the way.
He's on in the evenings now.
That change happened multiple years ago.
Well, that shows how much I'm watching him.
Exactly.
Anyway, so he comes out and he is like, look, I'm doing my patriotic thing by staying here at home and fighting this fever.
And the president, he's not doing anything.
And they took umbrage with the president saying that he was a cheerleader for the country.
And they said this was irresponsible that he would do this to express the optimism that he's going to hope reopen the country.
Tonight, this according to Don Lemon, we are closing in on 400,000 U.S. cases in the face.
The president says he wants to be a cheerleader for the country.
He's got one part of that right.
It's leader, leader, not cheerleader.
Lemon reacted in his opening monologue, telling people what could happen in preparing for what is happening is what you're supposed to do.
Yes, Americans, we need their president to give them hope, but we need the facts about what we're facing.
Okay, so they took this, and I want to play the clip that they played last night all across the media.
Here's the clip of Donald Trump.
You said within a couple of days, the cases will be down to zero.
Well, the cases really didn't build up for a while.
But you have to understand, I'm a cheerleader for this country.
I don't want to create havoc and shock and everything else.
I'm not going to go out and start screaming, this could happen, this could happen.
Okay, so that's what they played.
So you would think, you know, wait, that's what he said.
That's awful.
I mean, you know, he's got to give us some facts.
He's got to be doing something besides being a cheerleader, right?
Here's the unedited version.
Listen how much they cut out and what they cut out.
Listen.
You said within a couple of days, the cases will be down to zero.
Well, the cases really didn't build up for a while.
But you have to understand, I'm a cheerleader for this country.
I don't want to create havoc and shock and everything else.
But ultimately, when I was saying that, I'm also closing it down.
I obviously was concerned about it because I closed down our country to China, which was heavily infected.
I then closed it down to Europe.
That's a big move, closing it down from China and then closing it down from Europe and then ultimately closing it down to the UK.
And it was right about that time.
But I'm not going to go out and start screaming, this could happen, this could happen.
So, again, as president, the president.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Was he just saying I'm a cheerleader and I'm just going to say, raw team?
No.
He was saying I'm going to take the steps that were controversial at the time.
The steps that the media blasted him on.
Blasted him on.
I'm going to take those huge, massive steps to keep us safe.
But I'm also not going to sit here and say, oh my gosh, millions could die.
You got other people saying that.
He's exactly right.
The media is, you know, Trump derangement syndrome doesn't go far enough.
This is truly a deep mental illness.
It really is.
Because they want him to fail so badly, they will set the entire nation on fire.
It's almost as if they want us at each other's throat at this time of pandemic instead of coming together.
Instead of understanding that, yes, what?
Roosevelt didn't come out and say, you know, we could all die from the Nazis.
He said, all we have to fear is fear itself.
What is he?
Some kind of cheerleader?
Yes.
Yes, that's the point.
That's what the president and a leader should be doing.
Nobody wants to follow a leader that is like, hey, listen, we got to close down these borders.
I got to close down China.
I got to close down Europe because, whoa, whoa, I've seen some numbers today.
Holy cow, millions could die.
What you want is, hey, I've talked to some doctors.
This thing could be bad.
I think we're going to be okay.
We're taking really dramatic steps.
We're closing China.
We're closing our travel to Europe because we need to be safe.
But this is going to pass.
Which one do you want as a leader?
Which one?
The media should be ashamed of itself.
And this is only one.
Do you know that yesterday they were checking in to see if the president owned a stake in hydroxychloroquine?
Thank you.
Did you see that they wanted to know if he was making money on that?
And they found out he does own a stake in that company.
Yeah.
He owns what could be, what could be as much as $10, could be as much as $1,300.
So he could be making tens of dollars on that investment.
As we speak, we don't even know.
This is what they took their time to look into.
Meanwhile, CBS, yesterday they decided they would clarify that video of the nurse.
Do we have the video of the nurse where she was crying, quitting?
Okay, here she is quitting because the nurses aren't being protected.
I quit my job today.
I went into work and I was assigned to a COVID patient on an ICU unit that has been converted to a designated COVID unit.
None of the nurses are wearing masks, not even surgical masks in the hallways when they're giving report to each other.
I had my own N95 mask.
I told my manager, I understand we're short on supplies, but let me protect myself.
Let me feel safe.
I have family that I have to come home to.
And the way things are looking, this isn't going to get any better.
America isn't not prepared.
And nurses are not being protected.
Okay, stop.
This is serious.
I mean, if this were true, this would be horrible.
9.5 million followers of CBS got that.
Got that.
And oh my gosh, we're not prepared.
Look at this.
This poor nurse.
If this were true, we would need to know about it.
But it's CBS's job to find out if it's true.
Well, it wasn't true.
In fact, she has mental issues.
She hasn't worked at the hospital for about a year.
She has mental issues as clear by any of her other posts in social media.
In other posts, she's singing about the coronavirus.
She's like, oh, this is getting scary.
I mean, she is unstable.
CBS issued a retraction.
The hospital, Northwestern Medicine, acknowledged that she had quit her job, but referred CBS News to Vera as to the details of why.
So the hospital can't say why, can't say when.
She hadn't worked there for a year.
That's the only retraction from CBS.
We don't know why.
I don't know.
You've just been duped.
Don't you have it in your best interest to dig it out and find out how you were duped?
No.
Because it already did its job.
Now Howard Dean is saying he's boycotting MSNBC until the network stops airing the Trump pressers.
Let me ask you, did NBC radio dump the fireside chats?
Did you dump those?
Did you take those?
This is the biggest crisis since the fireside chats.
The president has experts with him.
They're giving information every day.
They want, the Democrats want it to stop.
Why?
Because it's effective.
Not because of any other reason other than politics.
Not that there's not information there.
There's plenty of information there.
People are at home.
They want to know what the truth is.
Now here's why MSNBC is already on the side of China and probably will dump those pressers.
They're in bed with China.
Universal is in the middle of getting ready to open a Universal theme park in China.
You want to know why they're so supportive of China?
Why they're taking China's side every single time?
Because they got a theme park they need opened next month in China.
That's why.
That's why.
Can you trust ABC?
Can you trust any company that's giving you the news?
Between their political bias and their being beholden to China, who's telling you the truth?
It is so critical, so critical that we have sources that we trust.
I just got this in.
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So it looks like Cuomo is lifting the ban on hydroxychloroquine, which, geez, that's got to drive the press out of their minds, huh?
He has said that his earlier position was banning of it.
Weird position.
For treatment.
Yeah.
For treatment.
Ban it, but it can be used to study for use for COVID-19.
Now, not only is he lifting the ban, he's asking the government to supply the hospitals with as much hydroxychloroquine as possible.
This is this, who's going to hold the media responsible?
You know, how are they ever going to pay?
I guess they're going to pay with everybody just not watching them anymore.
You know, when we're not watching their news and we're not letting it affect us, I guess that's when they finally lose.
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So we have been giving you stories on the WHO on my television show here recently and told you that the WHO is absolutely in bed with China.
The head guy of the WHO is an Ethiopian politician.
He's the first guy to not be a doctor.
He's an Ethiopian politician and the politician that did all of the deals for China and Ethiopia.
And Ethiopia has been described as China's African dream because it is the gate that Ethiopia opened up and started spreading all of that communist money all over Africa.
And China plans on owning all of Africa, and they do, starting with Ethiopia.
This is why the WHO has had zero credibility.
Everything they say has been pro-China, that China isn't lying.
China, we verified the results.
We're there firsthand.
And we now know all of that is a lie.
So Donald Trump has said that he is, in fact, we have the audio of Donald Trump on the WHO.
He said he's not going to fund the WHO.
Listen.
They've been wrong about a lot of things and they had a lot of information early and they didn't want to.
They seem to be very China-centric.
And we have to look into that.
So we're going to look into it.
We pay for, we give a majority of the money that they get.
And it's much more than the 58.
$58 million is a small portion of what they've gotten over the years.
Sometimes they get much more than that.
Sometimes it's for programs that they're doing.
And it's much bigger numbers.
And if the programs are good, that's great as far as we're concerned.
But we want to look into it.
World Health Organization, because they really are, they called it wrong.
They call it wrong.
They really, they missed the call.
They could have called it months earlier.
They would have known.
And they should have known.
And they probably did know.
So we'll be looking into that very carefully.
They probably did know.
They were there on the ground.
And as I said, they have a very cozy relationship with China.
There's a disturbing report that's coming out of Wuhan.
Locals in Wuhan are saying that hospitals were taking coronavirus patients in body bags alive and putting them into furnaces.
This can't be independently verified in China, but there are several people that are claiming that they live by these incinerators and that the Communist Chinese Party was burning corona patients alive to make room for new patients in the overcrowded hospital.
A source close to the funeral industry identified only as Ma, who said that he had heard reports of people restrained and forced into body bags while they were still moving.
Some people are saying there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes from inside the furnaces, which tells us some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive.
Ma also notes the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at Wuhan Hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus.
One old lady was saying that they put one guy into a body bag when he wasn't dead yet and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him, end quote.
A video of an older woman speaking anonymously to the camera began circulating on social media in February.
She said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive.
Quote, he's not dead.
His feet and hands are still moving.
They wrapped him up in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.
You know, we can't verify this.
I'm not sure that we're going to ever be able to verify this, but it wouldn't be surprising.
This is what they do.
Taiwan News noted the woman claimed to have suffered from coronavirus symptoms, but she was in her 60s.
She did not suffer severe symptoms, unlike the man taken away, who was estimated in his 70s.
This is a video, another video from Taiwan News.
Another woman said the man was weak, but was still breathing when medical workers bound his head, then his hands and feet, which were still moving.
She was there.
This woman was there.
No other treatment for coronavirus patients beside oxygen.
The woman said she felt older patients at the hospital were treated like dead dogs.
This totally is consistent with the way that communist countries, I should say socialist countries, China is not communist.
They claim they're communists, but by the definition, and if you read the new book that we released yesterday, arguing with socialists, you'll understand.
We got to stop calling it a communist country.
It's not.
It's a socialist country.
Communism only happens in the utopia.
It's never happened before.
There has never been a communist country because they never get past the socialism part.
Socialism is the step to utopia.
Socialism is the one where you have to have all the bloodshed and everything else.
You have to have the training camps because you got to get people to that utopian state where the government doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.
The people just want to do it themselves.
Well, no country's ever gotten there.
No country ever will get there.
So this is what a socialist country does.
This is what the Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw said.
Why don't we just line people up and say, sir or madam, your life can't be worth very much to you, and it's certainly not worth anything to us.
We can't afford to keep you alive anymore.
Justify your existence.
That's a quote from George Bernard Shaw.
This is the kind of stuff that if you don't care about the individual, you do.
Now, on our front, until March 18th, we were still processing Chinese nationals at our border and not turning them back.
This according to Daniel Horowitz from the Blaze, March 18th, we were still processing Chinese nationals at the border and not turning them back.
They didn't even have a quarantine policy in place for asymptomatic people, although the presumption was that by the time they were given over to CPB or ICE and then processed and eventually released with a notice to appear, It would be longer than 14 days.
We are trying to get our foreign national programs back online before the business comes back online.
We're trying to bring foreign nationals into our country as soon as possible.
This is a problem because if you watch what's going on over in Hong Kong and Taiwan, you're seeing that they opened things back up and they have travel.
Well, people were traveling around the world and they came back home.
What happened?
They're now starting to have symptoms again.
The virus is going up and it looks like they're going into another phase.
If we open up our country, it looks like we won't be opening up our borders.
Well, except for our southern border.
We'll leave that wide open.
But it looks like we won't be opening up our borders anytime soon.
We won't be flying anyplace anytime soon because that seems to be the next problem.
We can isolate it here and we can stop, but the virus knows no border.
And if anybody is traveling and coming in from a place where there is the virus, then we reintroduce it into society and we're facing the same kind of lockdown.
It looks like parts of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan may be going back into lockdown.
They're at least talking about it at this point because of the travel restrictions that have been released and not the travel restrictions of going to work, but the cross-border travel restrictions.
That apparently is the problem.
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Today's question, do you know who's benefiting the most from coronavirus pandemic?
It's not the multi-billion dollar corporation.
Many of them alone are just getting about, you know, everything that they want, but they're also getting everything they deserve in many ways.
They're getting crushed.
It is the socialists that are winning.
Everything they've been demanding for years, from modern monetary theory and the Green New Deal to universal basic income programs, they are all now being put on the table as solutions to the economic fallout of the coronavirus.
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Joining me today to talk about the book is one of the socialists who helped us with the book.
It's Professor Tweed.
And good to have you on the program, Professor.
Charmed, Mr. Beck.
Professor, are you there?
Yes, hello.
Hi.
How are you, sir?
Charmed.
Yes.
I'm elated to have access to this platform to encourage those listening to free themselves from the shackles of the 18th century mindset of debt and deficits.
The era of how are we going to pay for it is long dead.
The truth is, because the government can print its own money, we needn't fret about the potential of insolvency.
We could and should run the printing presses, as you so sophomorically call it, as much as needed to guarantee everyone with living wage-paying jobs, health care, clean energy, free college, and if I had my way, at least one of those motorized scooters that are so popular in Italia.
Right.
Right.
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
So, Professor, I mean, as entertaining as you are, really, free enterprise capitalism is actually a really simple system.
You know, I own property.
You own property.
You right now are probably looking at the script saying, where the hell are you?
Yes.
I certainly am.
It's exactly what I was doing just a minute ago, looking at where the hell are you?
I have a very specific.
I was emailed this script specifically to do in this particular script.
I was emailed.
It's weird.
I was emailed another script, Professor, and I was looking for any keywords quickly, so I really didn't even hear your point.
Oh, well, it was a great question about modern monetary theory.
Theory, yes, yes, modern monetary theory.
And what is your question on that?
Yes, I am familiar.
It's in chapter six of the new book.
Well, here's the thing, Fat Man.
Basically, you can print as much money as you want to, and bottom line, at the end of the day, everyone's going to be okay, just like AOC says.
So, Professor, how do you pay for all of these things?
How do you stop inflation?
Oh, please.
We don't need to pay for things.
We don't need to even tax rich folks like yourself, Mr. Beck.
But I will tell you, we will.
Taxation is still a valuable tool to deal with income inequality.
To quote a professor at Bard College, L. Randall Ray, what we will do is we will tax the rich.
What will we do with the tax revenue?
Burn it!
Uncle Sam doesn't need your money.
Of course, as you know, we can just print that money.
You just awful human being.
You despicable.
I don't think we're doing a good job on this one, Professor.
I think we're doing a really lousy, lousy job on this.
Here's what you need to know: modern monetary theory is printing money with everyone saying, we don't need any tax money.
We don't need any dollars.
We don't need the rich.
We can just print it.
And they take the taxes and they use that to set price controls, to stop you from buying the things the government doesn't want you to buy.
They control inflation by having price controls.
All the things that have been tried over and over that never, ever work.
I was just saying that, and you weren't even listening to me.
I don't know, fiddling with Twinkies or whatever it is you do over there.
Thanks for listening by our book, arguing with socialists.
How can we have two separate scripts on that one, Stu?
I mean, I had Catwoman in my script, and I don't even.
It's weird.
I have no idea.
Boris Johnson's Patriot Preexisting Conditions00:16:07
It's one of those things.
A socialist radio program would have nailed that one.
Yeah, it would have.
It would have.
It's called NPR.
It's called NPR.
Anyway, we were out last night.
We did a book signing last night.
Everything is virtual.
I haven't seen Stu in, I don't know how many days.
How many days have we been doing this now?
Has it been three weeks?
Are we going on three weeks?
Yeah, because we did, yeah, it was two weeks initially.
It was the 15 days to stop the spread, and now it's the 30 additional days to stop the spread.
So we're a week into that, I think.
What are they in China now?
They just lifted the ban in Wuhan.
Was it 70 days?
72 days, I believe, is what they did in Wuhan.
Now, of course, lifting the ban in Wuhan is still probably more restrictive than we have it right now.
I think their normal life is worse than our lockdown life.
But yeah, they are saying, look, we're past this thing.
That's going to be interesting to see if that's true.
Yeah.
Well, they might be past it for now, but I think this is what's going to be the big surprise to most Americans.
It's probably coming back this fall.
There's a good chance of it coming back.
Now, I guess maybe we can really help stop the spread of this if we don't open up our borders and we don't fly around everywhere.
But America's going to change.
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Listen, here's the, I want to ask you, Stu, because you watch the stats, and I am really confused because I see stats and I think this is good.
Things are getting better.
And then, and I don't trust anybody because I watch the news and it's almost like they're cheering for more people to die and us to stay in our houses forever.
I just don't know who to trust.
And these stats are so all over the board.
Can you tell me what's really going on in, let's say, New York?
The numbers are coming down, but now they're saying that we're not counting everybody, and yet we are counting everybody in some way or another.
If you die of a heart attack, you know, and you had coronavirus, then you're counted as coronavirus.
So we're counting you that way, but we're not counting the people who die at home.
So what the hell is what's happening?
Yeah, it's look, it's really confusing, I think, to people because they're trying to understand this, you know, massive thing going on, and it's difficult to kind of understand.
However, I think everyone does know this, right?
From the beginning of the entire coronavirus situation, we've been told one thing very clearly that hasn't really changed, which is this affects mostly when it comes to death, mostly people who are older and or have preexisting conditions, right?
So that is very, very well known.
And I think, in fact, was used as a justification as to why we maybe shouldn't, you know, why Trump was wrong in shutting down the country.
A lot of people were saying, well, they shouldn't do that.
It's only people who are old and have preexisting conditions.
Well, now this has become a question where some people who have looked at these stats maybe for the first time don't understand how cause of death is recorded.
So what they're saying is if someone goes in and has diabetes and high blood pressure and then gets coronavirus and dies, does that count as a coronavirus death?
Well, Dr. Burks was asked this yesterday, and she said, well, yeah, that would count.
And so a lot of people are like, I can't believe it this entire time.
They have all these other ailments.
Of course, that doesn't count.
That's not a coronavirus death.
Well, we count those as flu deaths.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The 50,000 number we say all the time for flu, it's not that 50,000 perfectly healthy people get the flu and die.
That's not how that works at all.
They all have, almost all of them have preexisting conditions.
You know, if you think about it as like a preexisting condition is someone wheeling a wheelchair up to the end of a cliff and then the coronavirus pushes them off.
well what's the cause of death there right what the way they falling off the cliff well Well, yeah, but it's both, right?
Yeah, it's both.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
It's both pushing them to the, if someone didn't push them to the edge of the cliff, the little shove at the end wouldn't do anything.
And if you push someone to the very edge of the cliff and don't do anything, they live.
So if you have diabetes and high blood pressure, you're living with those and you're alive.
When coronavirus comes in, you die.
Now, if you didn't have diabetes and high blood pressure, you might survive coronavirus.
Most people do when they don't have existing, pre-existing conditions.
But the important thing to understand here is that this is how they calculate this stat all the time.
Like well over 70% of all deaths in the United States have multiple causes.
So this is not something like, it's not some sham thing that the Trump administration is cooking up to make it look like there's more deaths, which is seemingly what they're being accused of.
Which is weird.
It's very weird.
I don't know who, I can't keep track of whose side is on who.
I mean, I can't keep track of the arguments because they're all over the place.
People who are big fans of Donald Trump are saying, you know, this is ridiculous.
We shouldn't be doing this.
I guess he's been duped.
How is Donald Trump being duped on this?
He's a lot smarter than that.
And as you pointed out yesterday, if he thought Dr. Fauci was a quack, he'd be the first person up there calling him, as you said, fathead Fauci.
Fathead Fauci.
Fathead Fauci.
He'd be the first person out there.
So like, you know, fundamentally, when this is something that occurs all the time.
So when you look at those models and they say 100,000 people dead, they're talking about that statistic recorded that way.
If you have an elderly relative who has hypertension and dies because it was living and you were talking to them every day and going to see them, and then they get COVID-19 and die, that's still a COVID-19 death.
It's also going to be recorded as having to do with hypertension.
And there will be multiple causes of death.
That is absolutely how they calculate this statistic all the time.
What Dr. Burks was saying was that other countries right now are not doing that as often and are likely undercounting the amount of dead they have there.
And which is which really is frustrating here when you listen to the media handle this is they almost seem like they're cheering on the fact.
And I know, I'm sure if you asked them, they wouldn't say that, but like, no, I think they are, it's, it's, I'm.
I'm not sure.
I think they are.
I've never seen anything like it.
You know, in the Second World War, FDR did fireside chats.
What were his fireside chats?
To be a cheerleader.
Yeah.
To be able to tell everybody it's going to be okay.
They covered those things.
They broadcast those things.
They heralded him.
They didn't even tell people that the man couldn't walk.
Most people had no idea the president of the United States was bound to a wheelchair.
This time, oh my gosh, we're going to be talking about in a little while what they have said about Donald Trump and how they have literally edited and twisted his words when he said, I'm a cheerleader of the United States.
I'm not going to freak everybody out.
Then they edited all of the words out.
Unless you watched it live, you have no idea what he actually said.
I think these people are absolute, absolutely on the wrong side.
Well, maybe the clearest vision of that, I think, is how they're treating hydroxychloroquine.
And it is clearly coming out and saying, look, I have high hopes for this.
There's been some anecdotal success.
We've seen some early success in some small studies.
We really hope this happens because if we can get a treatment for this, this is going to change.
It's a game changer.
And they say like, he's giving away unproven medical advice.
He wants people to just take this.
You know, look, he's not saying that.
You all know he's not saying that.
And it seems as if, just by the tone of much of the reporting, not all of it, but much of it, that they would rather have Trump be wrong than have this medication work, which is like insanity, right?
Like, yes, we all understand that it's not necessarily the magic pill, but we would love for this to actually work.
And maybe it will.
Maybe it will work for a subset of the population.
Maybe it'll work for 10% of the population.
Maybe it will work for nobody.
But, you know, there is reason for hope there.
And there are a lot of doctors who believe and have used this with success.
The fact that the coverage is all constantly critical of Donald Trump for even bringing it up.
They even tried to go down this road of saying, you know, Donald Trump owns part of this company.
And he is making money off of this.
First of all, he's also closed the economy, which has had that stock go down in the tank.
So he's made no money off of it anyway, even after talking about hydroxychloroquine.
And secondly, could we please.
Yeah, could we please lead with he may have $100, as much as $1,400 in that particular company?
And by the way, this is an old drug.
There's not a patent on this drug anymore.
So you could make it.
You're not going to be making money.
And if he's got $1,400 in it, oh man, he could be making $8,000.
I mean, in the next two months, he could be pulling down $8,000.
Oh, and that would be huge.
Huge for Donald Trump's bottom line for sure.
Yeah, it really is.
It's the fact that the media spent time pouring over all of his records to try to catch him as instead of just saying the guy believes in this.
He wants to give everybody the benefit of the doubt.
Give it a shot.
Instead of that, he must have some evil intent.
He must be making money on this.
Their attitude towards the president is despicable and despicable because of their attitude towards the last president.
When the last president wanted socialized medicine, they literally allowed him to go on in public speeches and say that doctors were cutting feet off of patients so they could make more money on diabetes.
And they never said a word about it, not a word about it.
Most people don't even know that President Obama said that over and over again because the media never held his feet to the fire.
And then to do this with Donald Trump is despicable.
And you can see it is un-American.
It really truly is un-American.
I get the feeling that they want America to literally die as opposed to Donald Trump be right on anything.
It's the tone of the money.
Obviously, you'd ask any individual media member and they would not say that that was their goal.
But still, in the others, the tone of the coverage, it seems to cheer it on.
Like, we really hope we caught him in one here because this is unproven medicine.
And it's like, well, are you rooting for it to work?
I'm rooting for it to work.
That's what I want to happen.
Let me ask you this.
There was a story about Boris Johnson yesterday that came out, and it was all about Boris Johnson, okay?
In the hospital, Boris Johnson, he's in the hospital.
He's the prime minister.
There's a lot of ways we could go with that story.
What does that mean for England?
They don't have a line of succession there.
Who's actually the prime minister?
If he dies, what does that mean?
All of these things, let alone just, is he on a ventilator?
Is he not on a ventilator?
Instead, what they took is he's not, doctors there are not on, not giving him any hydroxylchloroquine.
They're not giving him any of that, even though Donald Trump strangely keeps pushing this drug.
That was a full paragraph, like four paragraphs into the story about Boris, I mean, about Boris Johnson.
Yeah.
What the hell does that have anything to do with anything?
Yeah, it really is frustrating.
And they keep bringing up, they keep going to this thing of like, well, look, there's been some, you know, studies have shown some progress.
But like, it's just, it's not proven technology.
It's very, you know, irresponsible to recommend it and talk about all this hope.
It's like, so I listened to a doctor talk about a trial they're doing on hydroxychloroquine right now.
They're doing tons of trials on tons of medications.
It's not just this one, but they keep focusing on this one because Trump brings it up.
Well, they're in the middle of doing a clinical trial on that right now.
They are moving at a rocket pace here.
They've signed up hundreds of people to try it.
It is moving much faster than any other normal clinical study.
You know when they think they might have the first indication of whether it's successful or not?
Four to six weeks.
Well, the peak of New York, right, is happening this week, right?
The peak of Detroit is probably this week or next week.
The peak of total deaths is projected to be this week or next week.
So if we wait for six weeks to get results from a study to see if it actually works, all of these people are going to die for no reason.
Yeah, but why doesn't the press just say this?
Why didn't the press just say this?
Doctors are free to use it if they feel it's right.
A test which will show the actual results will come out in four to six weeks and then leave it alone.
And that's up to doctors to prescribe it or not.
And quite honestly, I don't understand this socialist, this absolute out-of-control desire for the press to control what my doctor wants to do with my body.
Why the Press Stays Silent00:05:17
If I am in the hospital and I am sick and he says, look, I got some witch hazel here.
It might work.
Load me up, Doc.
I tell you what, vitamin C might be good.
Plant a tree in my arm.
Give it a shot.
I'm going to die.
Right.
And you expect this from the left who is so concerned about the relationship between a woman and her doctor.
Don't let the government get in between that relationship when we're talking about abortion.
God forbid.
But when it comes to saving your life with potentially hydroxychloroquine, that is apparently way out of line.
Must be because Donald Trump, he must be scamming somebody.
It's got to be.
It's got to be a scam.
Don't you know it?
It's got to be.
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Sorry, we were just talking about the coronavirus off air and how people are just not there.
Donald Trump is in a lose lose situation with this with everybody, really, because the the lockdown has brought the numbers down to maybe 60,000 people.
Hopefully we don't get there, but 60,000 people dead in America.
Well, that's a really good number.
But that's causing a lot of people to go, see, it wasn't worth it.
It wasn't that bad.
We talked about this at the beginning.
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New York's Deadly Pandemic Toll00:05:09
All right, total confirmed cases of COVID-19, 1,447,516.
That is up almost 100,000 from yesterday.
Total confirmed deaths worldwide, 83,000, up from 75,000 yesterday.
Total confirmed recovered worldwide, 308,000.
That's a nice number.
It's up almost 16,000 from yesterday.
We have 400,549 confirmed cases.
And now in America, 12,858 deaths.
That is up the overall number, almost 50,000 from yesterday and 2,000 in deaths yesterday.
But here's the good news.
The U.S. is 17th in the death rate per 1 million people, 39 deaths per million.
By comparison, Spain has 311 deaths per million.
Italy has 283 per million.
France, 158, and Sweden.
Everybody says, oh, Sweden's really doing it right.
Are they?
Because we have 39 deaths per 1 million.
Sweden has 59 deaths per 1 million.
We're doing pretty well, America.
New York City is the deadliest.
It's the deadliest day so far.
Yesterday, 731 COVID-19 deaths on Tuesday.
This brings the New York State death toll to 5,489.
New York City accounting for over 4,000 of that total.
At this point, New York accounts for nearly half of all the total deaths in New York.
Statewide, they have about 140,000 confirmed cases.
But they say now the actual death toll may be higher in New York, as many people have died at home and are not yet tested or classified as COVID-19.
As many as 280 people are dying per day in their own homes or their apartments in New York City, and most are presumed to be victims of the virus.
According to the New York City Fire Department, over the past two weeks, more than 2,192 people have died in their own homes, and 75% of those people, they presume, are from COVID-19.
One city councilman tweeted that New York City Coroner's Office has designated a city park for use as a temporary burial site for COVID-19 deaths.
20% of the New York City Police Department is calling in sick.
It's not a surprise if you've been listening to me.
I've been telling you that New York is not the place to be in case of a real trouble, a pandemic as it turns out to be.
A lot of these cops are underpaid and they don't live in the borough they serve.
They're going to stay at home if things get really tough.
And quite honestly, part of me, I don't blame them.
New York City Police Department has lost its 12th member to a suspected case of coronavirus this week.
Monday, 6,974 uniformed officers of the NYPD were out sick.
That was accounting for 19.3% of the department's uniformed workforce.
Another 993 officers have presumed cases and are awaiting test results.
France temporarily surpasses the U.S. with the deadliest national daily total, 1,419 dead yesterday.
Now even Antarctica is not safe from COVID-19.
Leave it to dopes.
This is the only place on earth that you didn't have to worry about it.
A cruise ship from Australia was set to sail to Antarctica.
They just wanted to go look at the penguins and the seals and the whales.
Now over 60% of the passengers on board have tested positive for COVID-19 and another 20% have suspected cases.
The ship is moored off of Uruguay, which is beautiful, I hear, this time of year.
COVID-19 killing more Britons than the Blitz.
The UK had 786 known COVID-19 deaths yesterday, including a 23-year-old with no underlying health conditions.
By comparison, the worst day of the Blitz of London bombings by Germany in World War II killed 131 people.
Department of Health estimates that the actual total of COVID-19 deaths is actually likely much higher.
Can I ask you something, Stu, which is more freaky to you, being bombed or COVID-19?
As far as likelihood, COVID-19 would be more likely.
I don't think so.
I know, but which would be more freaky?
I mean, I would, you know, hearing the planes fly over you every night, not knowing if you were going to be bombed or not, would be really freaky, but there is really no difference.
Why COVID-19 Is Freakier Than the Blitz00:11:06
I mean, you're going out.
It's a silent killer.
You don't hear the engines.
I mean, I guess you stay in your house and you're safe.
Where that wasn't true in the Blitz.
I guess, yeah.
I mean, I think too, you know, look, the idea of just planes flying over your head and explosions all around you and the businesses you go to certainly aren't opening in 30 days because they're, you know, they're rubble.
I still think that would be much more terrifying.
But I mean, like, look, as we discussed this in arguing with socialists, in that socialism is the number two cause of death over the past hundred years.
Number one is infectious disease, right?
Like, it's not as dramatic as bombs and guns and things like that, but it does kill more people and it does all the time.
We have to deal with that.
It's just a totally different way, right?
It's a totally different way of dying.
You never know when it's coming.
You know, you don't have that anticipatory struggle, I don't think.
I mean, I don't go out to like, you know, you're not going to, I don't know, you're going to be sitting around thinking like, I'm like, oh my gosh, am I breathing in COVID air right now?
Am I, am I, is that happening?
That's not the way we think about this, right?
President Trump signaled yesterday he may put a, quote, very powerful hold on the funding to the World Health Organization as he lashed out the United Nations specialized agency, accused it of being very China-centric.
He is absolutely right.
We shouldn't be paying, I don't think we should be paying the UN, but we certainly shouldn't be paying the World Health Organization.
They not only dropped the ball, they are wildly corrupt as they do the bidding of the Chinese Communist Party.
We have more on that tonight on our special at 9 p.m.
You can find it at blazetv.com/slash glenn 9 p.m. tonight, our Wednesday night special.
You can also find it at YouTube, but only during the broadcast.
This one I'd like them to hold on in the archive so other people can see it.
Because I'm asking the questions that media won't ask.
They won't ask because they're all in bed with China.
We don't have any Chinese connections.
Oh, we've been banned in China.
Oops.
Oh, well, we're not Comcast that is opening up a new universal park next month.
So we don't have any restrictions.
Asking the questions about China and showing you video of, was this made in a lab?
Is this a bioweapon?
There's some new evidence out that shows that a lab was involved.
It appears as though this is not man-made, but that bioweapons lab played a role.
And we will show you the video.
We'll give you the evidence.
And we'll ask the questions the media should be asking tonight at 9 o'clock.
Gun sales are up over 200% in some states, up 200%.
More oriented home defense guns like pump action shotguns and cheaper handguns are what's selling right now.
They say that most of the people who are buying guns have never bought a gun before.
They may be ahead of the curve.
I think you're going to see gun sales go through the roof as we get further into this.
I'll tell you why as this progresses, we're working on some things now on what's coming that you should be prepared for.
I'm going to go to Gabrielle in Ohio, who is a small business owner and is trying to get one of the loans from the federal government.
Hi, Gabrielle.
Hi, Glenn.
Gabrielle, are you there?
Hi.
I'm here.
Hi.
Good to talk to you.
Tell me about your business and what's happening.
So I'm a 50-year-old business owner.
I've been listening to you since I was 30 years old, so 20 years.
And my husband's family, our family, have been in the restaurant business for 100 years.
We're the oldest restaurant family in the state of Ohio.
So a year and a half ago, my husband and I decided to open a small pizza place and kind of bring the East Coast pizza to the Midwest.
And it's been awesome.
And I have all the support of the neighborhood and the community.
And this coronavirus hits, and it's been rough.
Of course, I have four children.
Everyone's been helping out, whether they're home from college or not in high school right now and doing online classes.
Everyone's helping out in the business.
The private bank we use has also been great, but I've had to jump through a ton of hoops.
And I've had a lot of, I have great resources because of my situation with my husband's family being in business for so long.
But it was still, I'm in the queue waiting for money.
I've gotten all my paperwork in.
My accountant was awesome.
my lawyers were awesome i'm just how long do how long before they say you get money They're not making any promises because I think I missed the first batch of money.
I think I missed the first load, and I'm waiting to see if he releases any more money.
Or, you know, the government says, I'm going to give you $250 more trillion.
But I'm going to keep my T's and die to my eyes, and we're all working really hard.
And honestly, the state of Ohio is respectful to each other and grateful for where we are right now.
Same with my family and my business.
And we were doing a lot of things I probably never would have done as a family.
But I'm just very grateful.
I'm feeling grateful, but just hoping that we can get through this, you know, all together.
Good for you, Gabrielle.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Let me know what happens, will you?
Chuck in North Carolina.
Hello, Chuck.
Yes, I'm here.
Yes, go ahead.
You're on.
Okay.
Glenn, what I have found is that I'm a 70-year-old farmer, and I do seasonal three times a year we harvest.
And the banks don't know the policies.
I mean, bless the banks.
They're trying.
I'll give them that.
But they can't tell me.
Initially, they said I get no money.
And while I was on hold with you, I got an email that says they're going to go ahead and process my loan.
I've requested the money.
But they told me that I wouldn't qualify for what I wanted because of the fact, excuse me, that I didn't have 12 months' worth of data because I hire people for two months at a time.
And I've got a harvest coming up during May and June.
And, I mean, I had to hire someone to take my place because I'm suffering from Agent Orange Cancer.
And I'm at high risk because I take chemo every day of my life to stay alive.
And I'm trying to.
So, Chuck, how are you going to bring this crop in if you don't have the money?
Well, I guess I'm going to have to go down there and help and do it myself.
I mean, if I don't, I've still got the problem we have is I've sold nothing.
I haven't sold a thing since this started.
And in February, when they said that they wanted us to stay at home, I hired someone because I realized this thing is serious.
So I decided I need to be at home and quarantine myself till this thing's over.
Well, they cannot commit that I will get any money to pay that person either.
But, you know, I guess I'm going to have to, I don't want to help.
I really would like to stay quarantined.
But the good Lord, if he decides he wants me, he's going to take me no matter whether there's coronavirus or not.
Chuck, we will keep you in our prayers.
God bless you.
Thank you for sharing this story.
I think this is where the rubber is going to meet the road in Donald Trump's reelection.
If we can't get the people like Chuck, if we can't get the pizza place owners, if we can't get them money because there's just not enough of it, but these banks are getting everything, he is going to lose re-election.
We have got to look out for the little guy.
It's got to go there first, and we have to get this under control.
If I was advising the president today, which I clearly am not, that's what I would tell him.
Mr. President, you've got to take care of the little guy who is the farmer and the pizza shop owner and the person that owns their own store and have worked so hard and need that money.
You need to streamline this and get this to them now before they lose everything.
Back in a minute.
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we pause now for 10 seconds station id uh let's uh go to the phones and And Wilfred.
Who always seems to have a hard time just picking up the phone.
Putting it to your ear.
Put it to your ear, Wilfred.
Hello.
No, you've got it.
You've got to turn it the other direction.
Yes, Wilfred, how are you?
My name is Wilfred.
I'm calling from Sun City, Florida.
Yes, I know that, Wilfred.
Yes.
How are you?
As you may be aware, I am the director of youth outreach for the Biden campaign in the year 2020.
Yes.
Yes.
And there's a lot of things going on with the COVID-19 I would like to talk about, including virtual convention.
And virtual convention.
Yes, and as you know, as youth outreach director, this is right up my alley.
Right.
We are hopping on the information moving sidewalk right now.
And we have, if you go, make sure, now you can text Joe303303.
No, that's not how it, no.
3-0.
Okay.
Joe.
That's not exactly how that works.
Biden 230.
And if you get on your 2600 BOD modem and you'll go to the website I've created for youth outreach.
It's www.
You don't have to say that.
Bidenloves the young.org.
Biden loves the young.
Yes.
People can go there right now and I think they'll really enjoy it.
We have, for the young people, they can click on a hyperlink and they can print a U.S. flag there.
Right.
There are pictures of Joe Biden eating ice cream, which is what a lot of children like.
They like ice cream.
And we have posted now, this is available at bidenloves the young.org.
If you go there, you can get a coupon for $20 off your next abortion.
I think people were really $20 off your next abortion.
Yes, other services are not covered.
Thank you.
Bye.
All right.
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That's Goldman Sachs just came out and said gold probably is a good hedge against inflation.
Why?
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Biden Loves the Young.
I'm still on the air, right?
Bidenloves the Young.org.
Go there now.
No, it's why, of course, I was feeling that way.
It's not even the right flag.
It's not even the American flag.
When you print a flag, the students can go and print a flag.
Yeah, but it's not the American.
It's the Chinese flag.
We're talking to Wilfred, the Biden Youth Outreach Director, about his new website, BidenLovesTheYoung.org.
Because I'm the youth now.
I think people, the young people like myself will love it.
You're not young.
How old are you, Wilfred?
I mean, dude, don't sound real young.
I don't think it's for gentlemen to discuss of kind, sir.
Okay.
All right.
I did want to have one mention one thing to you and your listener about the current state of the race in the Democratic Party nomination for president of the United States.
Apparently it didn't go.
Yeah, we got it.
It didn't go well for Bernie Sanders last night.
He said that it didn't go the way he wanted it to go.
And so he has now officially suspended his run for president.
Well, yes, that was the news I wanted to tell you about.
I appreciate you saying that before I thought maybe you would have a comment on that.
Yes, I thought maybe you'd have a comment.
I do, and thank you for putting me on the air.
Am I on the air now?
When will I be on the air?
Yes.
You're on the air now, Wilfred.
You're on the air now.
Thank you.
My name is Wilfred.
I'm calling from Sunset.
We know all that.
Wilfred, we've already gone through all of this.
May I just mention my website?
Yes, I'll do that in just a moment.
I would like to say that the American people have chosen wisely and selected the, the virile, Joe Biden, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr, to be their, the nominee of the Democratic Party, and I think they came to the same conclusion I did, which was, of course,
that Bernie Sanders was far too young and inexperienced for this role.
All right so Wilfred, here's the thing I want to ask you about and, and if I could play some audio from Joe Biden, uh, do we have that audio uh, prepared?
He was talking about what to do in the Covid virus and, and i'm not sure I I understood this, I thought maybe you could explain it.
Uh, here's the audio.
What makes you the best?
Or the video 19 choice.
Well, that's a kind of a presumption to say for me to answer like, but I look um, we went through in our administration uh, the H1n1 virus.
We also dealt with the whole pandemic that was in Africa, kept it under control by, you know, doing what I urged the president to do months ago.
He's doing now.
Well, it was the presumption.
What were those things?
Well, it was the presumpt thing to say, well, first of all right, I got that, I got that.
I got that yeah, and what we did is we took uh we, we.
We attacked the virus uh, where it lived and um, that was in.
It happened to be in the nursing home I was residing in, so it was very easy to get to.
We put it in the uh the the smoker out back and we cooked it up and we ate it for breakfast, doesn't that?
That doesn't sound digestion.
Nobody wanted to touch it.
Therefore, no one caught the virus.
I was going to play.
I was going to play some more.
Uh, Biden loves The Young.org.
Yeah, I got, I got it.
Wilfred Biden loves the Young DOT ORG because he loves young people.
So I went to the website and it says Biden 20.
shouldn't it be 2020 shouldn't it you know i started i couldn't remember i i i've been so many 20 years where there's been the 20 at the end of the year i've been through three so i don't remember which one this was all right the youth outreach director.
Model Decisions and Lab Experiments00:12:23
Stay safe.
Wilfred, I appreciate your microphone call and join you.
Yeah, we got it.
What do we have?
Looks like JCPenney, Sears, Neiman Marcus, and Jay Crew may be victims of the coronavirus.
JCPenneys has been fighting for their life forever.
Sears been fighting for their life out.
Neiman Marcus been fighting for their life out.
Did you know Jay Crew was fighting for their life?
I like Jake Crew.
Yeah, I did not know that.
No.
It seems like anything that's in that category where like it's one thing if you're a healthy business and you're going through this, you're still fighting for your life.
But when you're an unhealthy business that's hanging on, you know, maybe by a string at the beginning of this, I don't know how you survive it.
Yeah.
So they were thinking about spinning off Madewell, which is, I think, a really good store.
But they were spinning off Madewell to go ahead and pay down a chunk of its debt.
But now nobody is in the market for a brick and mortar store.
So probably not going to happen.
Fitch also has been downgraded in their credit rating.
GNC, Party City, Taylored Brands, the owner of Mins Warehouse, Joseph A. Bank also looks like they may be not coming back.
Some of the others, bankruptcy filing, blah, blah, blah.
Payless shoes, Jimboree, American Apparel, and Radio Shack is still in business.
Radio Shaq is in business.
They're survivors, man.
I mean, they must have really, people used to make fun of them like, Like, why do you need my zip code for buying batteries?
It's like they were clearly ahead on something.
I don't know.
Somehow that zip code kept them in business another 30 years.
I have a feeling they have pictures of all of the Fed chairs.
You know what I mean?
They went in to buy batteries back when they were like 14.
They gave them their zip code.
Now they have dirty pictures of every one of the members of the Fed or something.
I'm not sure.
The top economist for Donald Trump says that it looks like we're going to reopen the economy in the next four to eight weeks.
Oh my gosh.
The president would like to reopen the economy as soon as he can.
We're planning internally.
He said, I'm hoping, as we're praying, that we are only a few weeks away from reopening.
We shall see.
Hopefully that is true.
Fauci, who if anybody thinks that Donald Trump is being conned by this guy or, you know, These medical guys who've just taken over the White House.
Just remember, Fathead Fauci.
That's what this guy would be called.
Fathead Fauci.
And Donald Trump would be talking about this fathead who couldn't see over the podium because he was so short if he disagreed with him.
So stop it with Fauci.
Anyway, he says he thinks schools are going to be able to reopen in the fall.
Oh my gosh.
Don't please stop.
If they don't open up, oh my gosh.
This is suicidal news.
This is suicidal news.
It is.
One of the interesting things about the whole shutting down the economy thing, as they're kind of looking back and really analyzing these numbers now, is that, like, for example, they had an interesting stat on Ohio.
Ohio decided to close their restaurants and bars on March 15th.
Okay.
And they're analyzing the traffic patterns of what was going on before March 15th, March 5th through the 15th.
And the foot traffic is down dramatically every single day leading up to when they actually closed the bars.
And so it's an interesting thought experiment to think about this in that like people before they were being banned were not going to these bars and restaurants.
They were, they were much less crowded.
They were losing up to more than half of the business.
That depends.
Did you hear about the mayor in Illinois that closed down the town, said, got to close down.
Everybody's got to stay in.
I'm going to start finding people.
He goes home.
His wife's not home.
He finds her at a bar.
She's at the bar in a crowd of people.
The wife of the mayor?
The wife.
The wife of the mayor.
She's like, do you have any idea what it's like to live with this fascist?
That's crazy.
But what they're finding in data all around the world is that people were not going out before the bans.
You know, and we saw this.
We kind of knew this already.
Like the NBA canceled their season, not because the government told them to cancel it, but because they felt they thought it was the right thing to do.
And so, which is, this is typical, by the way, that the private sector leads the government, not the other way around.
We saw this with going back to racism and all sorts of things in history.
Some of the worst problems that, you know, they'll be like, oh, well, they should be.
And it makes sense, right?
It makes sense.
So if you kept the economy open, right?
We keep saying we shut down the economy as if the alternate was everything ran as it was.
Normally, yeah.
Normally, but it clearly wasn't, that's not the other option.
The other option was, I mean, you know, in Ohio, a 50% cut in foot traffic in public areas before they did bans.
So like People were already thinking about these things anyway.
And if you kept the economy open, I don't know that you would have had wonderful gains, especially if the death got out of control even more.
I think what the government should have done is said, look, we're going to close down all of the government stuff.
We think that this is bad.
And as it gets worse, we're going to close down schools.
We're going to advise the states that the things they need to do are close down the schools, then close down this and whatever the government agencies are that they could close and lead by example.
I know I kept looking.
Remember, I kept saying, what is the tripwire?
How are they making these decisions?
Because I'm a business owner.
I want to make these decisions too, but I don't know what they're basing any of these decisions on.
So if you would be much more transparent, like in the fall, if this comes back, just tell us what the tripwires are.
Look, if we start to see 100 cases over here in this pocket or that pocket, that would mean they should probably shut down their businesses and keep their distance.
I think that's the way this should happen is we should all know what the tripwires are.
Instead, they were only advising Congress and the president and the governors and leaving us out on it.
Did you see anyone say, well, here's how they're making these decisions.
If they see this, this, and this, they will probably close.
If they see this, this, and this, they will probably open.
We're still left in the dark.
What are the tripwires to open this thing back up?
Yeah, it's interesting.
How are we going to know?
The Imperial College model, which was predicting millions of deaths if we didn't do anything.
If you look at that model, that's how it's set up, is there are they run it as if there is a certain amount of, I think it's ICU beds being occupied with COVID cases.
Right.
And as a local area would rise to that level, that would essentially reignite a shutdown type scenario.
One of the fascinating parts about the model, which I have not heard anybody in the media actually discuss, is the fact that the scary model that everybody's running off of explicitly endorses Donald Trump's handling of this when it comes to shutting down the entire nation.
Using localized approaches is actually what the model calls for and says it's more efficient, yet still they still come after him and bash him.
I mean, I don't understand.
Because it only has to do with politics.
All right, we'll pick this up a little bit later on tomorrow's program.
Don't forget tonight, 9 p.m., very important show.
We're going to ask the questions the media should be asking about China.
I'm going to show you some videos that maybe this whole thing, conspiracy theory that is started in a lab, is actually conspiracy fact.
We'll give you the facts tonight.
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