Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins - EXCLUSIVE  With Chase Geiser | Trump EXPLODES | Gray Area LIVE #59
Aired: 2026-03-23
Duration: 01:10:55


=== Welcome Tim Poole (11:50) ===

[00:00:22]  Is this
[00:02:50]  episode 58?
[00:02:51]  This is 59, man.
[00:02:52]  This is 59.
[00:02:53]  We got a man in the building.
[00:02:54]  Let's bring him on stage real quick.
[00:02:57]  Yeah, the marquee event.
[00:02:58]  The man, everyone's here to see.
[00:02:59]  What's up, Chase?
[00:03:00]  What's up?
[00:03:01]  Thanks for having me.
[00:03:02]  Yeah, we love it.
[00:03:04]  What have you been up to?
[00:03:05]  Just working like a dog.
[00:03:07]  Relatable.
[00:03:08]  Yeah, you're in Nashville these days.
[00:03:10]  Tell us a little bit about what's going on out there.
[00:03:12]  I've seen you here and there, but what do you got, man?
[00:03:17]  Well, I started a marketing company about two months ago.
[00:03:20]  It's going really well.
[00:03:22]  I'll have more exciting things to say about it in the future.
[00:03:24]  I'm also launching a podcast next month called Guess Who's Bach with Chase Geyser.
[00:03:30]  I've got a Korean friend with a Boston accent who looks exactly like Kim Jong-un.
[00:03:34]  So we're going to do a podcast together.
[00:03:36]  It's going to be hysterical.
[00:03:37]  Nice.
[00:03:37]  And pre-recorded stuff.
[00:03:40]  You know, I think both.
[00:03:42]  First few episodes will be pre-recorded and then we'll figure out the live stuff.
[00:03:45]  But we bought a space downtown in Nashville.
[00:03:49]  It's going to have a skyline in the background and everything.
[00:03:51]  And we're going to turn it into a podcast studio.
[00:03:52]  We're going to hit it at least three nights a week.
[00:03:54]  Very aggressive.
[00:03:55]  And I've never been banned from YouTube.
[00:03:57]  So we're actually going to do the Ian Carroll YouTube strategy where we just go ham and make a bunch of content and try to make some money.
[00:04:03]  Nice.
[00:04:03]  That's awesome, man.
[00:04:05]  We're actually looking for a little bit of advice from you because you're an InfoWars host and we're about to start hosting the American Journal for the very short but foreseeable future.
[00:04:14]  What do you think about that?
[00:04:15]  Congratulations.
[00:04:16]  I think you guys will be perfect for it.
[00:04:17]  Are you going to do it together?
[00:04:18]  Yeah.
[00:04:20]  Absolutely.
[00:04:21]  Little bits of advice would include not having a guest for more than 30 minutes at a time.
[00:04:25]  It's just, you don't want to drag it out.
[00:04:28]  Only take calls at the end of the show if as a filler.
[00:04:32]  I only like to do calls for 30 minutes, unless it's like some insane news happened and you want to hear like what everybody thinks about it.
[00:04:38]  So like, you know, if Charlie Kirk gets shot in the neck, then you take calls the whole time.
[00:04:41]  That makes sense.
[00:04:43]  But yeah, those would be the things that took me a while to learn.
[00:04:47]  I would do like calls for a whole hour.
[00:04:48]  I'd have a guest on for a whole hour.
[00:04:50]  Unless it's an amazing guest, don't do that.
[00:04:53]  Sure.
[00:04:53]  Well, you get the thing of like, I mean, we're already kind of doing it.
[00:04:56]  We go live like three to six hours a week plus like routinely.
[00:05:00]  And then I go live every day.
[00:05:02]  But when you're doing a show, when you're doing a network show, when you're there, when you're there and you're a part of the ecosystem, it becomes kind of a different animal to it.
[00:05:10]  And like I wanted to go do the solo show on Friday and I wanted to see how I would do just like that three hour unscripted environment.
[00:05:17]  And like the thing that me and Tim have noticed, and we talk about this a lot, actually, is over time, like as you get more reps and as you do more practice, the time as you're speaking and kind of going over things or just doing your show, it seems to get less and less and less.
[00:05:31]  But in your brain, you'll hear the littlest thing.
[00:05:34]  You'll be like, oh man, I wish we could have done better.
[00:05:36]  I wish we could have nailed that thing.
[00:05:37]  But you're doing a damn good show.
[00:05:39]  Like we're doing a damn good show.
[00:05:40]  And I think it just comes down to practice.
[00:05:42]  I think it comes down to motivation, wanting to give people the truth.
[00:05:45]  And I think it comes down to like love of the game.
[00:05:46]  We really love doing this.
[00:05:47]  And we know you love doing it too.
[00:05:50]  Absolutely.
[00:05:52]  I would say this drove my wife nuts, but the first like 20 shows that I ever did at InfoWars, I listened to all of them back.
[00:05:59]  I stopped doing that toward the end, you know, because I got, but listening back to the first 20 you do, you're going to learn a whole bunch of things that you want to do differently.
[00:06:06]  And you'll catch little idiosyncrasies, like if you say you know so much or if you say sort of all the time, like you'll catch all that stuff you didn't even realize you're doing it.
[00:06:14]  Also, always ask the crew how it went and then really dig because they won't tell you until you've asked them at least three times what was wrong with it.
[00:06:20]  Yeah.
[00:06:21]  That's what I tried to do when Rex and I went on with Alex.
[00:06:25]  Yeah.
[00:06:26]  And I was like freaking out afterwards.
[00:06:28]  I'm like, did that go well?
[00:06:29]  Like, I felt like we did awful for a second.
[00:06:32]  And then everyone was like, you're making it up in your head.
[00:06:35]  There's no such thing as a bad show with Alex.
[00:06:37]  Yeah.
[00:06:37]  We may have plugged ourselves a little too much, but hey, you know, we got to get the information about the gray area out there.
[00:06:42]  We got to kind of propagate that.
[00:06:44]  Yeah.
[00:06:44]  So, Chase, I'm actually really curious because I know a little bit about you, but I don't know like a ton in terms of like your past.
[00:06:50]  Like, so with InfoWars, like, how did you even get started with that?
[00:06:54]  Because I know Harrison's story because he told me about it.
[00:06:58]  But for you, like, how do you even, how long have you been, had you been doing it?
[00:07:02]  Had you been doing it before you went on InfoWars?
[00:07:04]  Like, what is your background on that?
[00:07:06]  I had a podcast before InfoWars called One American Podcast, and I was able to daisy chain some pretty large guests, even though it didn't have that much of an audience.
[00:07:16]  I think it had like 25,000 subscribers on YouTube, but I daisy chained guests that start out.
[00:07:21]  My first guest maybe had 5,000 followers and the next guest, 10,000.
[00:07:24]  Then it got to the point where I was interviewing the likes of Roger Stone and Steve Bannon, some kind of big names.
[00:07:30]  And what happened was Harrison had been one of my guests.
[00:07:33]  And when his wife had a baby, he took a couple of weeks off and I filled in for him.
[00:07:38]  And after I did two weeks of his show full-time for free, I asked for a job and they hired me.
[00:07:42]  Nice.
[00:07:43]  Beautiful.
[00:07:44]  Beautiful.
[00:07:45]  We're in the process of figuring everything out, man.
[00:07:47]  Like we're new to all this, even though I grew up around it, taking a very large break.
[00:07:52]  And I never hosted a show like this.
[00:07:53]  I did reports and whatnot and things around the office and more things on like the supplement and business side.
[00:07:58]  So, you know, it's really been like everyone always says, it's a journey, it's a journey, but it really has been a journey.
[00:08:04]  We're figuring out a lot.
[00:08:05]  We've really been grateful to the audience and the real love that we've gotten from people.
[00:08:09]  We really appreciate that.
[00:08:10]  And just like to everyone watching this right now, thank you so much for being willing to spend the time with us.
[00:08:15]  And I think what we're discovering as time goes on, as time goes on, as time goes on, is that we really want to be on the cutting edge of giving information to people.
[00:08:23]  So like we're starting, we're starting like a magazine publication.
[00:08:26]  We're going to do like interactive global map stuff.
[00:08:30]  We're trying to find the things.
[00:08:31]  Tim has really been working hard on this.
[00:08:33]  Maybe you can speak to it.
[00:08:34]  Tim has been doing like deep research into the things that other people aren't doing that we could provide value.
[00:08:38]  Well, I kind of took a play out of your playbook there, Chase, because you said something to us.
[00:08:43]  I think you were our first guest, man.
[00:08:45]  I kid you not.
[00:08:46]  I think you were the first guy that we've had on the show, and that was ages ago.
[00:08:50]  Yes.
[00:08:50]  But you said something about like you just had an agency to just creating things at InfoWars.
[00:08:56]  Specifically, you were talking about like the LLC that you built for Alex Jones and the app and stuff like that.
[00:09:03]  So I actually took that into my memory and I was like, okay, you got to do the same thing when it comes to even your own stuff here.
[00:09:11]  100%.
[00:09:13]  100%.
[00:09:13]  I'm thinking about the same thing for my show that I'm going to launch next month.
[00:09:16]  Like, what are the intros going to be like?
[00:09:17]  What music do I need to use that's YouTube compliant?
[00:09:20]  So it's not going to flag copyright issues.
[00:09:22]  How are we going to do different segments of the show?
[00:09:24]  So you definitely have to do a lot of pre-production.
[00:09:26]  But ultimately, there's like two things that matter.
[00:09:29]  The first thing is that you're providing people with information that they can't find just scrolling through their Twitter profile.
[00:09:34]  There are other hosts who I won't name, not Infowars hosts, but just other hosts like their show and they stream for two hours or three hours.
[00:09:41]  It's just like I might as well be reading my Twitter feed.
[00:09:43]  So provide information in a unique way or a unique analysis that you can't just get from anyone else.
[00:09:48]  And the second thing is always remember to be as entertaining as possible because you're competing with the fact that basically everyone listening to you can go and watch 2001 a Space Odyssey if they want.
[00:10:01]  So it has to be better than whatever else they could be watching.
[00:10:05]  Hold on.
[00:10:06]  People are asking you to turn up your mic, I guess.
[00:10:09]  Just turn up the okay.
[00:10:10]  Yeah, they're saying it's pretty low.
[00:10:12]  Is that better?
[00:10:14]  Is that better?
[00:10:16]  All right, cool.
[00:10:17]  No, in the comment section.
[00:10:20]  So, Chase, do you have any plans to go back into kind of like a network or you really just want to do your own thing for a while?
[00:10:26]  I'm going to do my own thing for a while.
[00:10:28]  I mean, obviously, if Alex asks me to help him in any way, I can, I will, because I'm a believer in the information war.
[00:10:34]  But I've, you know, I've started a marketing company and I'm going to do my own thing.
[00:10:38]  Nice.
[00:10:38]  Nice.
[00:10:39]  And we're kind of there too.
[00:10:41]  The way we see it is like, to be honest, we really like to be on the new network.
[00:10:44]  We'd like to be a part of like, he says he wants to do like 19 hours a day live and have a bunch of people do one-hour shows.
[00:10:50]  That sounds perfect to us, but we're really about the gray area and what we've developed here.
[00:10:54]  You talk about rolling down the list, rolling down Twitter.
[00:10:57]  I really like doing a news blitz show where I react to like the most topical clip.
[00:11:00]  Tim is a type of analytical dude who wants to create a down-the-line study on like a topic or something.
[00:11:06]  And I think that's what makes our show work so well is that with me, you kind of have the ADHD, the Asperger's, the isn't that crazy?
[00:11:15]  And with him, you have kind of like the step back research vibe.
[00:11:19]  And like in the middle of that, that's where usually people are.
[00:11:22]  But, you know, they like a little bit extreme.
[00:11:23]  They want to hear something for an hour.
[00:11:25]  They want to hear it the other way for an hour and then they want to hear the discussion.
[00:11:28]  And we also don't agree on everything.
[00:11:29]  That's the beautiful, which really makes the show work because a lot of the times, like, I mean, you talk about being entertaining, having energy.
[00:11:36]  I think the bar is Tim Poole.
[00:11:37]  I think you got to do better than Tim Poole.
[00:11:39]  You got to have a better show than Tim Poole to do the media.
[00:11:42]  That's my personal opinion.
[00:11:43]  I know you probably like him and whatnot.
[00:11:45]  It is what it is.
[00:11:46]  But I just, I think we're doing a better job here than people that have, you know, a huge following already.
[00:11:51]  Well, Tim Poole fits a very specific marketing.
[00:11:53]  I made a couple changes to my mic settings, so let me know if there's an issue.
[00:11:57]  Timpool has a very specific niche, which is people who don't have the time to be on social media all day, but want to know what happened every single day.
[00:12:04]  They treated Timpool for two hours.
[00:12:07]  It's like watching Fox News without the bullshit.
[00:12:10]  What can people expect with your new show?

=== Iran Invasion Fears (12:45) ===

[00:12:12]  Like, have you guys been planning all of this stuff?
[00:12:14]  Like, do you know?
[00:12:15]  Are you still trying to figure out exactly?
[00:12:17]  Because this is new because I haven't seen you as much on air these days.
[00:12:21]  It's rare.
[00:12:22]  It's rare to see you on camera, and it's good to see you on camera again.
[00:12:26]  Yeah, I'm thinking about faking my own death.
[00:12:28]  You can go on legacy.com and pay 250 bucks and write an obituary about yourself.
[00:12:33]  I'm thinking about doing that just to create a little buzz and then popping out with the first episode, like not saying anything on social media for a month straight.
[00:12:40]  So you guys have a little inside knowledge here.
[00:12:43]  I like that.
[00:12:44]  I like that.
[00:12:44]  Wow.
[00:12:45]  Well, we look forward to seeing everything that you're involved in.
[00:12:49]  As far as current news, current topics, current events, we've been basically doing wall-to-wall coverage of the Iran war because that's the biggest story in the country right now.
[00:12:57]  Before that, it was the Epstein file.
[00:12:58]  Oh, we forget about that, don't we?
[00:13:00]  That's not as important anymore.
[00:13:02]  But what do you think about Trump's actions?
[00:13:05]  The craziness, it seems, of the United States being willing to kind of crash out in the Middle East.
[00:13:11]  What do you think of the crashing out going on right now?
[00:13:14]  I actually disagree with everyone on all sides of this issue.
[00:13:18]  Ooh, good.
[00:13:19]  Hit us.
[00:13:20]  So I predicted the Iran war in April of 2025 in a very viral Instagram reel, which is about three minutes long.
[00:13:30]  And I explained the reason that we want to go to war with Iran actually has to do with protecting the dollar as a global reserve currency and reducing China's competitive edge against the United States in terms of trade and the artificial intelligence race.
[00:13:45]  And so this entire war with Iran is really about establishing the IMEC corridor to compete with the Belt and Road Initiative and ensure that we won the AI arms race against China and keep the dollar as the global reserve currency.
[00:13:55]  It has very little to do with Judeo-Christian values, has little to do with whether or not Iran has nuclear capabilities.
[00:14:00]  It's all about establishing trade routes.
[00:14:03]  And so like, I don't think that we're in this war on behalf of Israel.
[00:14:07]  I think we're in this war on behalf of our own fractional reserve central banking system.
[00:14:14]  And it's just as corrupt being in war for that reason.
[00:14:17]  But I disagree with everyone who's like, hey, we're doing this just because Israel, you know, Trump's owned by Israel.
[00:14:22]  But I also, you know, disagree with the people that think it's, you know, like the Mark Levins, I think it's just great that we're going to war with Iran.
[00:14:28]  It's terrible that we have a monetary system that requires that we do this in order to sustain itself.
[00:14:32]  Does that make sense?
[00:14:34]  It does make sense.
[00:14:35]  Do you think like does that does that logic track for you with the addendum of us maybe trying to make peaceful deals with these countries like Russia or China trying to figure out a way out of this?
[00:14:47]  Or do you think it was always going to result in this conflict based on the correlation of factors?
[00:14:52]  We've been planning this war for 25 years.
[00:14:55]  I think the decision was made toward the end of the first Trump administration.
[00:14:58]  I think he planned on doing it right after his reelection.
[00:15:00]  It didn't happen.
[00:15:01]  So it got postponed four years.
[00:15:03]  And I think that this war is totally like a national security, military-industrial complex, big banker protecting war.
[00:15:14]  Now, Chase, I've been going through these loops in my head of just like, why is Iran so strategically important compared to all of the rest of the countries?
[00:15:24]  Now, it makes it seem to me like, okay, well, we kind of toppled the Iraq situation.
[00:15:30]  Syria is a mess and Afghanistan's a mess.
[00:15:34]  Six out of seven countries.
[00:15:35]  You know, so I'm just trying to understand, okay, like what is you're you're touching on a specific point, but like, why have we been so interested in Iran?
[00:15:42]  Is it because of China and Russia being interested as well, or the location of it being because of the Belt and Road initiative?
[00:15:49]  And this is used to be where the Silk Road went.
[00:15:52]  Yeah, all of the above.
[00:15:54]  It's, you know, location, location, location.
[00:15:55]  So the Strait of Hormuz is a huge bottleneck for energy, specifically throughout Asia.
[00:16:02]  Also, China, I mean, 90% of Iran's oil exports go straight to China, and we're in the middle of an artificial intelligence arms race against China, which one which is heavily energy dependent.
[00:16:12]  And so basically, the way that I look at the conflict with Israel and Iran is the same way that I look at the conflict with Ukraine and Russia.
[00:16:21]  Ukraine is the U.S. proxy against Russia, and Israel is the U.S. proxy against China.
[00:16:26]  Iran is the Chinese proxy against the United States.
[00:16:29]  So there's actually a conflict happening between the United States and China, not so much Israel and Iran.
[00:16:37]  I agree with that.
[00:16:39]  I think it's a blend.
[00:16:41]  I don't subscribe 100% to the notion that it's not also about Israel because I think it is.
[00:16:45]  Certainly.
[00:16:46]  Certainly.
[00:16:46]  For Bibi, it is.
[00:16:48]  For us, we don't give a shit.
[00:16:49]  That's the mini superpower that we've worked to create in the region.
[00:16:53]  That's the whole goal of Greater Israel.
[00:16:55]  And it's like, you know, I've heard Lawrence Wilkerson talk about this many times.
[00:16:58]  Like, the tail is wagging the dog, but it's a part of the dog as well.
[00:17:01]  And the dog knows what's going on.
[00:17:02]  Well, also signed up for it.
[00:17:03]  Also, just think about this.
[00:17:04]  You get plausible deniability.
[00:17:06]  If everyone is focused on Israel, which they are, right?
[00:17:09]  The United States gets to pretty much do anything it wants and it knows that, you know, for the most part, Israel is going to take the fall for it.
[00:17:17]  It is the scapegoat, right?
[00:17:19]  And that's why I've pushed back a lot when people are like, well, it's Israel controlling the United States.
[00:17:26]  I mean, I'm like, there's no possible way.
[00:17:28]  We have definitely the capability.
[00:17:31]  I bet they have kill switches and things like that on specific pieces of equipment that we've given them.
[00:17:37]  They wouldn't be able to go so far as to act completely autonomous from the United States.
[00:17:42]  I just don't see a scenario like that.
[00:17:45]  Yeah, I agree with you that Israel is dependent on the United States of America.
[00:17:48]  100%.
[00:17:50]  But we also set that up on purpose, just like the same way that Ukraine is dependent on the United States of America.
[00:17:55]  It's so that we could exercise that satellite or that cutout or that proxy for the sake of our own national interests.
[00:18:01]  And we have to ensure that oil is traded in the region in U.S. dollars.
[00:18:04]  And the only way to do that is to secure the Strait of Hormuz, eradicate Iran, and establish a competitive trade corridor against China.
[00:18:11]  Yes.
[00:18:12]  Unfortunately.
[00:18:13]  And then the aspect that I see in how you know it's about China is because Venezuela came into the picture as well.
[00:18:19]  We've been strategically chopping off specific routes for China to have economic control over the entire world.
[00:18:26]  And Venezuela was one of those big ones, specifically.
[00:18:29]  Not to mention the blackouts in Cuba right now.
[00:18:32]  I mean, we've weakened Cuba as a proxy of Russia or China.
[00:18:35]  Lindsey Graham is literally wearing hats and trying to sell hats, talking about the Cuban invasion.
[00:18:39]  I mean, everything that the empire is trying to do is happening right now.
[00:18:43]  Do you think they're going to be successful in Iran, in Cuba, and all these projects like they were in Venezuela?
[00:18:51]  Yes and no.
[00:18:53]  I think ultimately we'll win this war because we don't have a choice, but it's not going to happen in 12 weeks.
[00:18:58]  It's going to be long and ugly and deadly and expensive.
[00:19:02]  And it's going to go on for the remainder of Trump's term.
[00:19:05]  I'm almost certain of it.
[00:19:06]  Ooh, that is bold.
[00:19:09]  I agree.
[00:19:10]  You guys don't think that Americans will squeal way before that?
[00:19:15]  Because I don't see how if Trump loses the midterms, that the Democrats allow this to just go unchecked.
[00:19:22]  It's like executive order.
[00:19:25]  It's a deep state war.
[00:19:26]  I actually agree with you, Chase.
[00:19:28]  There are no breaks.
[00:19:29]  The Democrats won it too, man.
[00:19:31]  They're just so glad that Trump's the one taking the fall for it.
[00:19:33]  Ooh, that's a good point.
[00:19:34]  I'll give you that.
[00:19:35]  Sure.
[00:19:36]  Yeah, because under Obama, under Biden, there had also been specific things that the Democrats were.
[00:19:42]  How much legislation do you see from the Democrats right now trying to stop it all?
[00:19:46]  That was the key.
[00:19:47]  Especially Schumer struck it down.
[00:19:49]  He struck it down.
[00:19:50]  He struck down the resolution.
[00:19:52]  You're right.
[00:19:53]  That's a good analysis.
[00:19:54]  Now, where do you think the ball lands at the end of the day?
[00:19:57]  Because Iran's not just going to bend over backwards and just take it.
[00:20:02]  At some point, there has to be an inflection point.
[00:20:05]  We know that this, we know the end game of this never works out for us in the United States.
[00:20:12]  Well, land invasion of Iran is very impractical, even compared to like Iraq because of the mountainous terrain.
[00:20:18]  It would be even worse than Vietnam.
[00:20:21]  But we don't really have to do a land invasion.
[00:20:23]  All we have to do is secure the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:20:26]  And so I think there will be boots on the ground along the Strait of Hormuz, and I think there'll be continuous air assault, but I don't think there'll be a full-scale invasion.
[00:20:34]  And I do think that the objective will be met, although it will be very expensive for the U.S. taxpayer and it will be drawn out.
[00:20:41]  And there will be cyber attacks and terrorist attacks and all this bullshit for the next several years.
[00:20:47]  I heard something watching Dialogue Works.
[00:20:49]  I think I heard it from Lawrence Wilkerson talking about the potential of an Iranian ground invasion of the neighboring areas.
[00:20:58]  Well, not talking about anything that's happening or developing pure speculation, but they have a million-man army, right?
[00:21:03]  And you have all these Gulf countries that are weak and destabilized and have these corrupt monarchies.
[00:21:08]  And you have a lot of people in those countries that want them out.
[00:21:12]  It's so unstable.
[00:21:13]  I don't think we even have any idea of what's coming to tag on to your point, Chase, about this lasting for the remainder of his term.
[00:21:19]  I think it lasts longer than that.
[00:21:20]  I mean, look at Ukraine.
[00:21:21]  You know, and that's two administrations now dealing with that.
[00:21:25]  I think the thing that scares me right now is, to your point, Chase, if we do have boots on the ground in the strait, no way Iran just lets that go.
[00:21:36]  They're not just sending missiles.
[00:21:37]  They're sending troops.
[00:21:38]  And that means all-out, you know, ground conflict.
[00:21:42]  And that's when you start seeing people dying.
[00:21:45]  And I, and if people start dying, again, that snowball gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
[00:21:51]  And then we have no choice but to commit more troops to that area.
[00:21:55]  Self-decision.
[00:21:56]  So I'm just like, okay, why would we want to do something like that if we know that this is a potential consequence?
[00:22:05]  To protect the dollar as a global reserve currency.
[00:22:07]  I mean, people don't realize how many deaths there were in the United States of America when the stock market crashed in 1929.
[00:22:14]  They don't realize how many millions of Americans died of starvation because they don't realize that every 1% unemployment goes up, 40,000 Americans die from stress-related illnesses.
[00:22:22]  They don't realize that within six months of the stock market crashing, all the wild game had been hunted in all the wilderness in the United States.
[00:22:29]  So if the dollar collapses, we're talking about almost an apocalyptic event globally.
[00:22:36]  At that time, half the people were farmers.
[00:22:38]  Half the people grew their own food.
[00:22:40]  Right.
[00:22:40]  And so there's not really a number that wouldn't be worth it.
[00:22:48]  And I hate to say that.
[00:22:49]  I don't want me saying that to be taken out of context because I do not support this war.
[00:22:53]  I do not support the reasons for it.
[00:22:54]  But I do understand that an explanation is not the same as an excuse.
[00:22:58]  I'm not excusing it, but if I was playing a video game like civilization or total war and I was in a similar situation as the United States in terms of trade and currency status, like the first thing I would do would be just a heartless war against Iran.
[00:23:13]  Well, I'll one-up you there in terms of it's not just the dollar, it's the petrodollar.
[00:23:19]  Yes.
[00:23:19]  That's the key here.
[00:23:21]  Petrodollar, oil, all of that is the main component.
[00:23:25]  And if you can allow that to continue to have liquidity and have control over the price action and all these different things, at the end of the day, the United States does not want oil to be detached from the actual U.S. dollar.
[00:23:40]  That is a nightmare security.
[00:23:41]  And that's kind of the provocation that the Iranians have given.
[00:23:44]  I think that's why one of the reasons why Trump has said, okay, I'm going to take out the power plants.
[00:23:48]  I'm going to go full war crime is because the ships that are passing through right now, they got to pay for the oil in Yuan.
[00:23:54]  And Iran has set that up, and they're also demanding million plus dollar or yuan ransoms for the ships passing through the strait.
[00:24:01]  What do you think?
[00:24:02]  Yeah.
[00:24:04]  Yeah.
[00:24:04]  I mean, they've explicitly said, yeah, we'll open up the strait as long as the oil is traded in yuan instead of uh, in U.s dollars, which just goes to show that it's really about the dollar.
[00:24:12]  Yeah, and Trump's like, oh nuke yeah yeah, and look, and the problem is like if you're going to justify a military action to the American people, you can't say hey look, we need to establish this trade corridor and the dollar is vulnerable, like the amount of market volatility that would be caused by official leaders as being the official reason that we're officially engaged in this official military operation is asinine.
[00:24:34]  Like it's just astronomical level of disruption that we created, volatility that would be created.
[00:24:38]  And so what they do is they just like frame it in this bullshit evangelical Israel has a right to exist stuff, and then what that does is like everybody sees how bullshit that is, so they attack that argument, but they still are diverted away from the real reason, which is just U.s.
[00:24:52]  Economic dominance.
[00:24:53]  That's what that's all this is about.
[00:24:55]  I don't like you revealing my plans.

=== Bongino Sneaky Cash (04:13) ===

[00:24:57]  I don't like you doing it.
[00:24:59]  You're not supposed to do it to me.
[00:25:00]  Stop doing.
[00:25:01]  Why didn't you tell us about Pearl Harbor?
[00:25:04]  Yeah, he talks to the prime minister, the Japanese prime minister, and he's like, well, you know, a lot of people call this sneaky.
[00:25:10]  A lot of people said it was a sneak attack.
[00:25:12]  You did something sneaky.
[00:25:13]  Pearl Harbor was pretty sneaky, let me tell you I, I I always knew that Trump was crazy and wild.
[00:25:20]  I didn't think that we'd reach this point.
[00:25:22]  I, I didn't think that he was like that, but I, I guess, like you got to take the man at his word right, and like he's willing to do this stuff.
[00:25:28]  I mean, he really is, you know, everything the government ever wanted, and more.
[00:25:31]  That that's my reflection on Trump.
[00:25:33]  Like he is doing the things that needed to be done in their opinion.
[00:25:37]  Well, I mean, I wouldn't even be bothered so much by this move if it wasn't for the fact that the Epstein stuff is obviously being covered up.
[00:25:43]  Nobody's been prosecuted whatsoever.
[00:25:44]  It's just like bullshit after bullshit after bullshit.
[00:25:47]  What's up with that?
[00:25:48]  In your opinion, no one's doing it.
[00:25:49]  Well, the other, on the other unpopular opinion on that is that the reason the Epstein people aren't being prosecuted is because so many of those crimes have passed the statute of limitations.
[00:25:59]  Right, you know.
[00:26:01]  So like, what are you gonna do?
[00:26:03]  You know like, prosecute somebody for a crime that expired seven years ago or 2019?
[00:26:07]  Yeah no, you're right, some of them.
[00:26:09]  But then i've also seen that there are certain things that you can still prosecute for.
[00:26:13]  I I, I don't remember off the top of my head, but they're not going after anything.
[00:26:17]  That's the problem.
[00:26:18]  I mean, even if you, you pass the statue of limitations or anything, you can get them on something.
[00:26:23]  I mean the, the government and the FBI, and let alone the legislation system, has all types of ways in which they can bend the rules to go after whoever they want.
[00:26:33]  Right, you saw that under every administration.
[00:26:36]  I think the average American commits like three felonies a day.
[00:26:38]  It's like all right.
[00:26:39]  Well then, why don't you just catch these motherfuckers for one of those I jaywalk I, I think the people deserve to know the names.
[00:26:46]  I think that's what a lot of it is about.
[00:26:48]  I think also, the three million unredacted files.
[00:26:50]  I mean clearly like, we watch this great gameplay and there's a lot of factions involved in it right, and that's why people that always say monolith, like Jews or whatever, like I, don't particularly Particularly subscribe to that.
[00:27:01]  It's like my dad says, like it is one power block that is trying to run everything just like all the competing factions are.
[00:27:06]  But at the end of the day, there has to be a head honcho.
[00:27:09]  There has to be a boss.
[00:27:10]  We had Simon Dixon on.
[00:27:11]  He said, I'll tell you who that is.
[00:27:12]  It's the multi-national or transnational capital interests.
[00:27:15]  And that's what Trump is really doing is he's ushering in a multipolar world.
[00:27:20]  What's your take on that?
[00:27:20]  Because it sounds like you're kind of in the opposite direction.
[00:27:23]  You think Trump is trying to maintain American hegemony?
[00:27:29]  I don't know, man.
[00:27:30]  I think I tend to think things are more decentralized than many people in this space.
[00:27:37]  Ultimately, I think the puppet master of all this bullshit is Satan.
[00:27:40]  Right.
[00:27:40]  Everybody else is just, you know what I mean?
[00:27:42]  Like, I do believe that there's a war for good versus evil, but I don't think there's going to be an aha, like Wizard of Oz moment where we find the man behind the curtain and we're like, you, it was you the whole time.
[00:27:55]  It's not like a Darth Vader situation, you know?
[00:27:57]  Sure.
[00:27:58]  Yeah, I agree with you on that because there's too many variables for one person to take into consideration with different parts.
[00:28:06]  Like Bibi and Vladimir Zelensky are two like super villains for completely different reasons, you know, but they're still kind of like under the umbrella of the U.S. military industrial complex in our interest because they're both cut us.
[00:28:18]  But like BB is corrupt for completely different reasons than Zelensky is corrupt, you know?
[00:28:23]  And it's like, so there's these super villains, you know, like kind of like the antithema, the antithesis of the Avengers.
[00:28:30]  But it's not like there's one master kind of Thanos level bad guy.
[00:28:35]  Well, that makes a lot of sense to me, just talking about the devil.
[00:28:38]  But there clearly is something because you look at these people like Bongino, for example.
[00:28:43]  And what I said on the show, and I think it's a pretty apt description of what actually goes on, is like they take you into the Oval Office and there's a trapdoor under the desk and you meet the devil basically.
[00:28:54]  You meet Satan and then you start following whatever protocol it is because it's just too weird.
[00:28:59]  You look at these people, they're like shell-shocked.
[00:29:03]  Yeah.
[00:29:03]  I mean, we saw it with Mike Johnson when he was totally against funding Ukraine and then he went into a skiff and he came out three hours later and he was all for it.

=== Paid Protesters Scandal (09:02) ===

[00:29:10]  It happens over and over again.
[00:29:12]  Right.
[00:29:12]  Yeah.
[00:29:13]  You saw it with Cash.
[00:29:14]  You saw it with Bongino.
[00:29:15]  Same thing.
[00:29:15]  Yeah.
[00:29:16]  Yeah.
[00:29:16]  Cash and Bongino were told that Epstein's in witness protection and then they came out both together and said that Epstein killed himself.
[00:29:23]  Yeah, I would throw RFK to that too.
[00:29:25]  He said there's a lot of things that are going to change when I get in there.
[00:29:28]  And I'm like, okay, what have you done?
[00:29:30]  Well, he's made some good progress with some of the vaccine shit.
[00:29:33]  They went back to the 1980s schedule, didn't they?
[00:29:35]  No, but the stuff I wanted him to focus on was the terrible stuff in my food.
[00:29:39]  Like if Chick-fil-A is that bad for me, come on, at least give me the bare minimum of like taking us back to the 40s where they had less.
[00:29:45]  This glyphosate thing is so crazy because the argument is, but it's only used on 3% of American wheat to dry it.
[00:29:52]  It's used on a third of all American fields for weed control.
[00:29:55]  So even if they don't apply it directly to the plants, they're applying it to the environment.
[00:29:58]  We use 280 million pounds of it a year.
[00:30:02]  It's gone up like 30 million pounds steadily every year.
[00:30:05]  And it's all over your balls because the underwear you're wearing.
[00:30:07]  Yeah.
[00:30:07]  Why?
[00:30:08]  Oh, we love it.
[00:30:09]  We love the polyester.
[00:30:10]  I'm getting it right now.
[00:30:13]  That's insane.
[00:30:13]  It's true.
[00:30:14]  It's true.
[00:30:14]  But like these environmental toxins, they're everywhere.
[00:30:18]  All over my balls, bro.
[00:30:21]  All the world's problems are on my balls right now.
[00:30:24]  Now, Chase, question for you.
[00:30:27]  We just asked for an additional 200 billion, of course, on top of the 50 that we did the prior week, I'm pretty sure.
[00:30:34]  For real, it doesn't matter.
[00:30:35]  Right.
[00:30:38]  You know, is there any point at which we get to actually push back on these things or is it just one of those things that you just kind of just accept as a reality?
[00:30:47]  Because people don't seem as upset about that compared to some of the other issues.
[00:30:51]  Like, we'll go and riot because of, you know, something that happened with Minnesota.
[00:30:57]  But like this thing is significantly more impactful.
[00:31:01]  Dude, that's such a good point.
[00:31:03]  Like if a person gets killed, like whether it's a Renee Good or a George Floyd or whatever, the whole country, the whole country burst into flames.
[00:31:10]  It's because our protesters aren't paid.
[00:31:12]  Ooh, interesting.
[00:31:14]  Talk about that.
[00:31:15]  Well, I mean, all the leftist protesters are paid by these NGOs and the World Economic Forum and these other organizations, whether they're Black Lives Matter or whatever, they're all hyper-funded.
[00:31:25]  Democrats are super organized and they operate with a subconscious understanding of what to do for the good of the hive mind in a way that Republicans or conservatives or libertarians or whatever that isn't left is.
[00:31:38]  And so like, yeah, I mean, nobody's paying thousands of, you know, college-age or 20-year-old kids to protest on behalf of the fact that we're funding $200 billion for a while.
[00:31:50]  $40 in a sack lunch.
[00:31:51]  That's highly motivational to a lot of people.
[00:31:55]  So maybe we don't criticize people's sub-honest way of living.
[00:31:58]  But that is a real factor.
[00:31:59]  I mean, like, I grew up going to protest and seeing Antifa and seeing all of it.
[00:32:03]  And there are people that are true believers and down for the cause and want the anarchy and all that.
[00:32:08]  But there are a lot of people there.
[00:32:09]  You literally ask about that this many times.
[00:32:10]  Like, yeah, you know, I'm getting paid whole assign, man.
[00:32:13]  I think it might be even more simple in the way you guys are describing.
[00:32:17]  And we've just become desensitized to it.
[00:32:20]  I think, you know, the Americans have been used to the fact that we raised a debt ceiling, another $6 trillion this year.
[00:32:29]  And it's like one of those things that you hear, but you don't really process anymore.
[00:32:33]  You know, not until you get into a situation like 2008 where you got Occupy Wall Street after clearly enough people experienced like job losses as well as housing foreclosures.
[00:32:47]  And then you have.
[00:32:48]  That's the point right there.
[00:32:49]  That's it.
[00:32:49]  You nailed it.
[00:32:50]  It hasn't gotten bad enough yet.
[00:32:52]  And then you've got the headlines of mentioning racism.
[00:32:55]  Oh, Occupy Wall Street Tea Party because they have to make people fight.
[00:32:59]  Like you can literally look at line graphs of headline titling from major newspapers.
[00:33:03]  And it all changed after that because they realized we can't get people together about the economy.
[00:33:08]  We got to break them up on the basis of race.
[00:33:11]  100%.
[00:33:12]  What do you think about this?
[00:33:15]  Is it the fact that it hasn't gotten bad enough?
[00:33:19]  Because I didn't see how a Minnesota situation could have just, I mean, maybe it's your Democrat position of like, okay, they had funding to start these things.
[00:33:29]  But I'm like, come on, this is worse.
[00:33:31]  This is like 10 times worse.
[00:33:33]  My gas was like 220 a month and a half ago, and now it's at 379 and we're in Texas.
[00:33:40]  Yes.
[00:33:41]  Yeah.
[00:33:42]  What was the question?
[00:33:43]  The question is, is like, you know, you said it hasn't gotten bad enough.
[00:33:49]  And it's like, okay, what is a scenario in which it gets bad enough?
[00:33:52]  Everybody loses their job because the AI take over and inflation goes through the roof at the same time.
[00:33:57]  Ooh.
[00:33:58]  Yeah.
[00:33:59]  That sounds realistic.
[00:34:00]  And regulation isn't catching up either when it comes to AI at the same time.
[00:34:04]  So, you know, by the time they get the regulations to protect the average person, it might already be too late.
[00:34:11]  Yeah, I don't really see, I don't see a way for us to like solve this peacefully.
[00:34:15]  I think that we just have to, I don't mean to be blackpilled, but and I'm not like an accelerationist, but I think that I think that this whole thing has to fucking fall apart before we can put anything back together.
[00:34:27]  I agree with you on that.
[00:34:28]  And I think even before then, I think World War III, something significantly happens that's bad, it resets the world.
[00:34:35]  World War III already happened.
[00:34:37]  We're in World War IV.
[00:34:38]  Nobody knows the Cold War.
[00:34:40]  Right.
[00:34:41]  It's true, but we're still in the Cold War.
[00:34:44]  And what I was thinking of, Tim, when you're talking about the national debt and how people just discourage another $4 trillion doesn't matter.
[00:34:51]  I look back at what it was during Trump's first term.
[00:34:53]  And during Trump's first term, it was $17 trillion.
[00:34:57]  It was?
[00:34:57]  Yeah, you think about just the skyrocketing debt year after year after year after year.
[00:35:04]  It becomes more and more insane to think about.
[00:35:06]  And you think about it.
[00:35:07]  It's kind of like if you have AIDS and you sleep with somebody who has AIDS, it's like, I already got AIDS.
[00:35:12]  What's wrong with the double dose?
[00:35:14]  It's like, we're already 17 trillion.
[00:35:16]  Make it 34.
[00:35:16]  Fuck it.
[00:35:17]  Like, we're fucked either way.
[00:35:18]  You know what I mean?
[00:35:19]  Like, oh, the Titanic hit a second iceberg.
[00:35:21]  It was already sinking.
[00:35:23]  I just remember being a teenager and the narrative from the Democrats and the establishment Republicans being Trump is evil for asking for $17 billion to build the wall.
[00:35:35]  And then we just vomit out this money like it's nothing.
[00:35:38]  We don't take care of our veterans.
[00:35:39]  We don't take care of our health care workers.
[00:35:41]  We don't have health care.
[00:35:42]  We don't have infrastructure.
[00:35:43]  We don't have any of these things.
[00:35:44]  China, complete police state, social credit score, all of that.
[00:35:47]  But they've got high-speed rail.
[00:35:49]  They've got the best electric cars.
[00:35:50]  They've got what would appear to be a more modern society than the United States.
[00:35:55]  How do people in America not learn to take that deal?
[00:35:59]  Because I think that's what will be proposed kind of in kind with the Chinese deal, what you're talking about with the automation and all of that.
[00:36:05]  I was listening to a space today and they were talking about they've commissioned a study that will conclude in 2027.
[00:36:11]  I believe it's the EPA that's done it, where they've put people on credit cards with UBI.
[00:36:16]  We need to cover this and do a deep dive on it because it's crazy.
[00:36:19]  They put a track population on credit cards and UBI and they have carbon credits and they're going to track their spending and their environmental impact.
[00:36:27]  And then when the Democrats come back in power, the study will be there.
[00:36:30]  Oh, we have to do it to save the earth.
[00:36:34]  How do we fight against that?
[00:36:35]  What's the argument kind of from the more right or libertarian perspective?
[00:36:41]  Well, fuck.
[00:36:42]  I mean, isn't the libertarian argument obvious?
[00:36:46]  It's just like, mind your own business.
[00:36:48]  Don't track my payments.
[00:36:49]  Don't tell me what I can do with my own money.
[00:36:51]  Don't track my carbon credits.
[00:36:52]  Don't tax me.
[00:36:53]  Yeah, I mean, that's the obvious argument, but I don't think the EPA is ever going to accomplish anything because I think ultimately all the green energy efforts that have taken place in the United States since the 50s have been an effort to subvert the dollar, really since the 70s, have been an effort to subvert the dollar as a global reserve currency.
[00:37:09]  Because as soon as we eradicate demand for oil because we have some alternative energy source, the entire economy collapses because there's no demand for oil and oil is what props up our currency.
[00:37:19]  So like this, all this EPA shit, it's cute, but like nobody gives a fuck about the environment.
[00:37:24]  There's reports coming out that the ozone's allegedly healing.
[00:37:26]  Do you remember the hole in the ozone in the 90s that everybody was talking about?
[00:37:29]  Apparently that's gone.
[00:37:32]  I think the green energy thing lost its muster because nobody gives a shit, man.
[00:37:36]  As long as we have OnlyFans and Netflix, fuck it, man.
[00:37:39]  Is that why we've rejected nuclear power?
[00:37:43]  Does that make sense to me?
[00:37:44]  That's a good, that's a good idea.
[00:37:45]  The reason that we've rejected nuclear power, well, maybe in the United States, maybe that's why.
[00:37:49]  But the reason that nuclear power has been stifled internationally is because the leap from nuclear power to nuclear weapons is actually a very small leap to jump.
[00:37:58]  And so we've done everything we can to prevent people from having nuclear power in other countries if we don't want to become a nuclear power in terms of militarily.
[00:38:05]  Also with nuclear power, the upfront cost of investment just to build one of those facilities is astronomical.
[00:38:11]  It almost doesn't make any sense.

=== 2028 Regime Change (02:48) ===

[00:38:13]  In the time as well.
[00:38:14]  And it takes like, it could take more than a decade for you to make a return on your investment for that.
[00:38:19]  But, you know, when we waste, you know, billions of dollars on weapons, it doesn't really seem like it's that big of a difference at that point when I think about it.
[00:38:29]  And that's what I was touching on with kind of the leftist line of thinking is ultimately when a population is raised to see their government just spend money, spend money, spend money, I think they're going to have a harder time with kind of the rugged individualism argument where like, hey, like we like, just be a free human, don't have to pay taxes, like work for yourself, have your own agency.
[00:38:50]  I think people are going to be like, well, you know, government has paid for everything my entire life.
[00:38:55]  And these people are saying they'll make it pay for things domestically instead of the wars.
[00:38:59]  I think that's how the Democrats are going to win in 2028.
[00:39:02]  That's what I was asking, if that makes sense.
[00:39:05]  Yeah, Democrats are definitely going to win in 28 and they're going to win this year too.
[00:39:11]  And what we're going to see in 2032 and the United States is going to be very similar to what was happening in Germany in 1932.
[00:39:19]  Extrapolate on that.
[00:39:20]  Yeah.
[00:39:21]  Well, I mean, the left is going to fuck things up so badly and there's going to be massive disruption in the market over the course of the next six years that the right wing that we're going to elect in 2032 is going to be like extreme right.
[00:39:34]  And it'll be a lot of a socialist component.
[00:39:36]  It'll be Hitlerian.
[00:39:37]  I don't know that it's going to blame the Jews, but it'll be like, imagine the Nazi Party without the anti-Semitism, but all the same policies.
[00:39:43]  Like that's that's ultimately what I'm concerned about.
[00:39:46]  I just think that's very realistic.
[00:39:48]  I've thought about this often and I'm like, okay, you had a, from 2016 and now you're going to go to like 2028, you've had a very tumultuous time period where people have just been upset constantly.
[00:40:03]  You know, I mean, at some point, the next candidate's got to come in in 2028 and know that like you can't play this game anymore because Trump's first term wasn't the worst, but then Biden comes in awful.
[00:40:16]  And then, you know, Trump doubles down at this point.
[00:40:19]  And, you know, the next person that comes in, it's like, dude, we've already gotten it wrong for the last eight years.
[00:40:25]  You have to do something different at that point.
[00:40:27]  Exactly.
[00:40:28]  Like, I feel like you almost need to.
[00:40:31]  Otherwise, we're going to get to that point where people are rioting on the streets.
[00:40:35]  There's only but so much the average American can take of this roller coaster of, well, maybe I'll go left.
[00:40:41]  Well, maybe I'll go right.
[00:40:43]  And it's like most people are somewhere in the center these days because they don't know which side to take.
[00:40:48]  Yeah.
[00:40:49]  It just has to get worse before that's going to happen.
[00:40:53]  People right now are so focused on covering their bills, covering their nut, and they can just barely do it.
[00:40:57]  But as soon as they can't, that's when you're going to see all this volatility.

=== Trump Doubling Down (09:06) ===

[00:41:02]  I agree with you on that.
[00:41:04]  Now, I'm just thinking about this.
[00:41:08]  We were talking about Cuba earlier.
[00:41:10]  Does Cuba become one of those areas that we now have like another mini base?
[00:41:16]  And as we install a new regime in there, it's kind of like a new vacation spots for America.
[00:41:21]  That's what Trump's thinking about.
[00:41:22]  What do you think is going to happen with Cuba?
[00:41:23]  Because that's something that not a lot of people are talking about these days.
[00:41:27]  I think there'll be a regime change in Cuba in the next 12 months.
[00:41:30]  I see it.
[00:41:32]  We've choked all of their oil supply and they've had a massive brain drain to their population shrunk from like 11 to 9 million because people are willing to leave and risk the Darien Gap and try to find opportunity somewhere else.
[00:41:46]  I mean, it's the same thing we do to Iran, too.
[00:41:48]  We do economic warfare on these places decades before we actually put boots on the ground.
[00:41:53]  It is smart strategy.
[00:41:54]  The American government is very, very evil, extremely evil.
[00:41:59]  But go ahead, Jay.
[00:42:01]  Sorry.
[00:42:01]  Yeah, no, it's just imperial.
[00:42:04]  Yeah.
[00:42:04]  All empirics are evil.
[00:42:05]  Yeah, it's just super imperial.
[00:42:07]  And, you know, the interests that the national security apparatus or the military-industrial complex try to protect are the macroeconomic interests of the nation with total disregard for the micro interests or rights of the individual.
[00:42:22]  And so, like, my concern is not so much what happens if we lose this AI arms race with China, this economic war with China, but what the country looks like after it does the things it needs to do in order to win.
[00:42:35]  And so, you know, we're going to wind up at a situation where it's like, you thought the Patriot Act was bad.
[00:42:40]  Imagine if they had AI back then.
[00:42:42]  Like, it's going to be like that.
[00:42:43]  You think just to clarify, are you saying like we're kind of moving towards a similar buildup just like China has with what they're doing to their citizens?
[00:42:53]  Do you see that happening here with all of the democracy and constitution we have here?
[00:42:58]  Yeah, I do, regardless of whether the right or the left wins.
[00:43:02]  100%.
[00:43:03]  I agree.
[00:43:04]  But how do we get to the point where, well, no, they have access to all that information anyway.
[00:43:11]  I mean, they're starting to sell that data anyways.
[00:43:13]  And Palantir and a lot of these other companies.
[00:43:15]  You might have some validity to that.
[00:43:17]  That's like the optimists in me, and I try to get a little white pill about this.
[00:43:22]  I'm like, surely someone has to step in to stop this because there's no way.
[00:43:29]  I'm not going to let somebody just withdraw something from my account because I have a social credit score.
[00:43:35]  I mean, how that's going to be.
[00:43:36]  That's what Tykaczynski thought too.
[00:43:37]  That's what Taj Kaczynski did.
[00:43:40]  Damn.
[00:43:42]  You know, he saw it coming.
[00:43:43]  Not saying that was right for him to kill children.
[00:43:45]  That's obviously the wrong thing to do.
[00:43:47]  But it's like, what are you supposed to do?
[00:43:48]  What can you do other than just blow it up?
[00:43:51]  Wow.
[00:43:52]  Nightclub, baby.
[00:43:53]  Wow.
[00:43:54]  I mean, do you think we'll see more, you know, like economic-related, technological-related, like, terrorism as time goes on?
[00:44:01]  Do you think that'll be kind of a natural reaction of the people on the fringe that are being disaffected by all this?
[00:44:07]  No, it won't be like terrorism in the same way.
[00:44:09]  It'll be more like, holy shit, everybody's getting audited and they're all getting caught for the little mistakes they made on accident because AI found it all.
[00:44:17]  Yeah.
[00:44:18]  You know what I mean?
[00:44:19]  And then like everybody's making deals with the federal government and all this bullshit.
[00:44:23]  It'll be massive psychological operations on all social media platforms because the AI manipulations of the algorithm and the different social media platforms, especially the publicly traded ones, will be, well, the boards of directors will sell out just like they did under the Biden administration, but this time with weaponized AI, education will be hyper-empowered to brainwash and more and more people rely on public education because it's not economically sustainable to send your kids to a private school and both parents have to work so nobody can homeschool.
[00:44:50]  So we're going to see generations increasingly raised by the state.
[00:44:55]  And I think we'll overcome those challenges.
[00:44:58]  I don't really know how, but it seems that innovation ever so slightly outpaces regulation.
[00:45:03]  So there will be pushback.
[00:45:04]  There'll be badass things that happen like the Elon Musk's buying Twitter and turning him into the X and other things.
[00:45:09]  But ultimately, I think we're in for a very rough road over the next several decades.
[00:45:13]  I don't know.
[00:45:14]  I still feel like I thought Elon was the guy and somehow he stopped being the guy for me quite a long time ago.
[00:45:21]  I think he got in there and I think he like we heard about the magic money computers and all of this and he said we're going to come in and find $2 trillion and waste.
[00:45:30]  And then we saw the numbers go down, down, down, down.
[00:45:32]  I'm not excusing Elon and saying that he's innocent.
[00:45:34]  I don't like the transhumanist stuff.
[00:45:36]  I really hate it, actually.
[00:45:38]  But, you know, people like Anthony Graffio, the person I do Tuesday show with conspiracy talks, me and him talked about it.
[00:45:45]  And he thinks it's all orchestrated and that there's a master plan.
[00:45:48]  I understand why I don't think it's crazy to have that view.
[00:45:51]  But at the same time, I think they kind of broke Trump like a racehorse.
[00:45:55]  I think it started with the Russia stuff.
[00:45:57]  I think it started with the media programming.
[00:46:00]  And I mean, like, I'm Alex Jones' son.
[00:46:02]  Like, I've seen the hatred my dad has had to deal with and, you know, his character and like a lot of the effects that something like that has for 32 years.
[00:46:09]  You have people say that you're a horrible person.
[00:46:11]  I think Trump was overloaded with an attack that no one had really ever perceived before.
[00:46:15]  And he had a bunch of weaknesses already.
[00:46:17]  And then we kind of get this agent of the empire as the result.
[00:46:20]  You know, I think he's really a creature of Washington now.
[00:46:23]  He's the ultimate politician, which is the irony.
[00:46:25]  You know, I'm not a politician.
[00:46:26]  I'm not a politician.
[00:46:27]  He is the greatest politician possibly to ever live.
[00:46:31]  I think Trump thinks that what he's doing is America first.
[00:46:34]  Yeah.
[00:46:36]  I don't think he distinguishes between America and the United States in his own mind.
[00:46:40]  And so he thinks protecting the interests of the United States as a state, as a nation, is the same thing as protecting the interests of the Americans, which I think is an outdated kind of boomer philosophy, you know, or a Jack Ryan philosophy where the CIA is always the good guy is coming in to bust the terrorists.
[00:46:56]  You know what I mean?
[00:46:58]  Like in Hitler, it was the same way.
[00:47:00]  Like, I'm not trying to say that Trump's Hitler.
[00:47:02]  I'm just giving an example of another nationalist leader that for some reason was, you know, Germany first, but constantly involved in conflicts in other nations, right?
[00:47:10]  I mean, everything that Hitler did, he thought he was doing for Germany, but it wound up being like hyper expansionist, hyper external to the actual interests of the German people, ultimately resulting, of course, in the collapse of Berlin.
[00:47:22]  And so I'm not saying that we're going to have the same outcome here, but I think that Trump believes that his actions in Iran and these conflicts are actually America first because they protect the dollar as a global reserve currency.
[00:47:31]  I'm not defending it.
[00:47:33]  I hate our monetary system.
[00:47:34]  What he should really be doing is gutting the Federal Reserve and pushing for a new monetary system altogether.
[00:47:39]  But I think he's taken this route of protecting the dollar and he's willing to kill whoever the fuck he has to kill to do it.
[00:47:45]  You know what Owen said to us last time?
[00:47:48]  Schroer came on the show and he says he thinks Trump is owned, that he's being blackmailed in some sort of capacity where they've got something on him.
[00:47:56]  I don't know if he was trying to say it in like a defending way, like almost like, you know, they've got something on him, not my president.
[00:48:03]  It's not his internal care.
[00:48:05]  It wasn't that.
[00:48:05]  I think it was more so like they literally have so much on him that he has to comply with whatever, you know, I guess the man in the black.
[00:48:14]  That's a common take.
[00:48:14]  Ian Carroll kind of thinks the same thing.
[00:48:16]  Ian Carroll's a close buddy of mine.
[00:48:18]  I disagree.
[00:48:18]  I think that would have come out between 2020 and 2024 if that were the case.
[00:48:23]  There's probably a nuanced counterargument to that.
[00:48:26]  That's reasonable.
[00:48:29]  I'm more inclined to think that I'm more inclined to think that Trump is wrong than I am inclined to think that he's blackmailed.
[00:48:38]  It makes sense to me, man, that like he, I think he does have a lot more agency than is described.
[00:48:44]  Like, oh, he's totally controlled and whatever.
[00:48:46]  I think it's like the mafia, right?
[00:48:48]  Where if you leave the mafia, oh, they're going to whack you.
[00:48:50]  They're going to release whatever they have on you.
[00:48:51]  But as long as you're in the mafia, you're one of the guys.
[00:48:54]  You know, I think that's, I think that's what it is.
[00:48:56]  I think he has a real need to be liked.
[00:48:58]  And it's what you said.
[00:48:59]  It makes a lot of sense to me talking about a guy that has a love of money.
[00:49:01]  I mean, that's Donald Trump, number one, Numero Uno.
[00:49:04]  Protecting the dollar, I could very easily see how that narrative could get lodged in his mind and never let go.
[00:49:12]  I've got something that I've just crossed my mind.
[00:49:15]  Go ahead.
[00:49:17]  Okay, so Trump is one guy, right?
[00:49:19]  He's very old.
[00:49:21]  There's only but so much that you can focus on at one point.
[00:49:24]  You've got all of these people that are underneath you.
[00:49:26]  You've got different agencies, different things that are happening abroad and overseas, right?
[00:49:31]  So a lot of what I see is there's like a trickle of information that comes to him and he can only process but so much.
[00:49:39]  And I feel like either you've got people on these lower levels or maybe parallel to him that are feeding him information on, hey, I think we should go do this thing.
[00:49:48]  And then rather than kind of actually have some agency to think about the decisions, I think he also just like, yep, sounds good.
[00:49:56]  I think there's certain situations where I could see that happening to where like he's not really processing the actual effects of what it looks like down the line if we do this thing, except for the one thing that he's focused on.

=== Gas Price Acceleration (15:49) ===

[00:50:08]  Winning, I'm going to win.
[00:50:09]  I got to do what I got to do to get it done.
[00:50:12]  Yeah, because somebody could just be like, Mr. President, Mr. President, I have the best thing since sliced bread.
[00:50:17]  You just need to go and attack these people and put ICE agents here or something like that.
[00:50:22]  And he'd be like, great idea.
[00:50:24]  I mean, look at how they set that up with Venezuela, right?
[00:50:26]  Oh, that went perfect.
[00:50:28]  He even got the guy that flew the helicopter to come and get the medal at the State of the Union, right?
[00:50:33]  Like, that's literally picture perfect, everything you want.
[00:50:35]  And they go, Mr. President, it'll be just like Venezuela.
[00:50:38]  We'll take out the Ayatollah.
[00:50:39]  Be done.
[00:50:40]  And here we here we are.
[00:50:42]  You know, I, I really like your takes.
[00:50:44]  It's different than what I hear other people talk about.
[00:50:47]  I think this is why it's important that you have your own broadcast and that you're independent and just that you go on other shows in general and you being on InfoWars.
[00:50:53]  Like this is a very refreshing perspective.
[00:50:56]  It's making me think about a lot of my takes.
[00:50:58]  Obviously, I joke a lot about make Israel great again.
[00:51:00]  I say MIGA because it's funny.
[00:51:02]  Okay.
[00:51:03]  Mega please and all of that.
[00:51:04]  Mega please.
[00:51:05]  I think I think it's a little hilarious.
[00:51:06]  But you know, I think he does have more agency than we give him credit for.
[00:51:10]  So just in closing, got anything else you want to say on that topic?
[00:51:12]  Just thank you for coming on.
[00:51:13]  Really appreciate it.
[00:51:14]  I know you got your busy today.
[00:51:15]  No, I appreciate it.
[00:51:16]  Thank you so much for having me.
[00:51:17]  I've got nothing to say other than follow me at Real Chase Guys or I'll have more content coming out in the future.
[00:51:22]  And anytime you want me on Rex, I'm happy to come on.
[00:51:24]  And thanks, Tim.
[00:51:24]  I appreciate you too.
[00:51:25]  Oh, 100%.
[00:51:26]  I want to get him on one of our shows.
[00:51:28]  Come on in the morning.
[00:51:29]  Come on, American Journal if you wake up.
[00:51:32]  You know, we would love to have you on the show.
[00:51:35]  Thank you.
[00:51:36]  All right.
[00:51:37]  Chase, appreciate you, man.
[00:51:39]  Yeah, we're really thank you.
[00:51:41]  Appreciate you.
[00:51:42]  We're really looking forward to hosting the American tomorrow.
[00:51:45]  I think we're just kind of going to call it.
[00:51:47]  Yeah.
[00:51:47]  You want to get into a couple things from the doc?
[00:51:49]  We could do a couple things from the dock.
[00:51:50]  I think, what are we at?
[00:51:52]  I think we're not even at an hour yet.
[00:51:54]  So we got to give people a little bit more.
[00:51:57]  We got some chats I need to read first.
[00:51:59]  I got a couple super shorts.
[00:51:59]  Sure.
[00:52:00]  Really quick for public opinion.
[00:52:01]  It's on the second page of the dock.
[00:52:03]  Get the Misfit Patriot video, Wes, if you would do that, please.
[00:52:07]  We're going to play that because I farmed it twice.
[00:52:10]  I tweeted it.
[00:52:10]  I said, actually, this guy should be deported or something like that.
[00:52:14]  And it got like thousands of likes or whatever and like hundreds of thousands of impressions.
[00:52:17]  And he should be deported.
[00:52:18]  He should be deported to the.
[00:52:20]  But I did another tweet.
[00:52:21]  I was like, I can't stop coming back to this train wreck.
[00:52:24]  That one also blew up.
[00:52:25]  It has like a thousand likes right now.
[00:52:27]  This guy's literally laughing in people's face about the gas prices going up.
[00:52:31]  He's like, what is it?
[00:52:32]  An extra $30 a week.
[00:52:34]  And it's like, actually, you know, $120 to $150 a month is a lot of money for people.
[00:52:37]  And it's actually a lot more than that.
[00:52:38]  It's probably more than that, depending on how much you drive significantly changes.
[00:52:43]  A ton of money.
[00:52:44]  I'm seeing it.
[00:52:45]  I used to drive an hour to work every single day.
[00:52:48]  And that was one way, two ways.
[00:52:50]  I was filling up my tank probably every two or three days.
[00:52:55]  And during Biden, this is actually what pissed me off.
[00:52:59]  My gas is at like $4, and I'm paying like almost like $100 for a freaking sedan.
[00:53:05]  Right.
[00:53:05]  And that was on a weekly basis.
[00:53:07]  Tim drives energy-efficient vehicles.
[00:53:10]  I get like 16 to 15 miles to the gallon, you know?
[00:53:13]  100%.
[00:53:14]  And I'm like, there's no reason that this should be like this.
[00:53:17]  But go ahead and play that.
[00:53:18]  We'll play it really quick.
[00:53:19]  And Nimrod Pod said this.
[00:53:20]  Shout out to Nimrod Pod.
[00:53:21]  Check him out if you haven't.
[00:53:22]  I've been on his show.
[00:53:23]  I did an excellent episode with him and his boys on there.
[00:53:25]  He says, you don't have to find it.
[00:53:27]  He's like, I can't believe the Misfit Patriot video is not satire.
[00:53:30]  I mean, like, when you see this, if you haven't seen this, this is the most outrageous thing I've seen on Twitter in quite some time.
[00:53:34]  Let's play the video.
[00:53:37]  Oh my God, guys.
[00:53:38]  I just filled up my truck and it was $80.
[00:53:42]  Is that really worth taking out the world state sponsor of terrorism?
[00:53:48]  Like, I mean, is it really worth it?
[00:53:51]  I mean, I usually fill it up and it's like $60.
[00:53:56]  I'm spending an extra $20.
[00:53:59]  I fill up probably once a week, maybe, maybe like one and a half times a week.
[00:54:03]  That's like $30 extra dollars a week for the past like three weeks.
[00:54:09]  I don't know.
[00:54:10]  Like, what?
[00:54:11]  Oh, my God.
[00:54:13]  Is that really worth killing the same people that funded the deaths of thousands of Americans?
[00:54:25]  Yeah.
[00:54:25]  Yeah, you fucking idiot.
[00:54:27]  Yeah, it's worth it.
[00:54:29]  Okay, so he's on the highway.
[00:54:30]  He's wearing no seatbelt.
[00:54:32]  He's filming a video.
[00:54:33]  This is, this is, these are real mega activities.
[00:54:35]  Okay.
[00:54:36]  Only a real MIGA would be able to get away with doing this.
[00:54:39]  He's laughing in your face about the gas prices going up.
[00:54:42]  He says it's worth it.
[00:54:43]  Do you think it's worth it to the American people?
[00:54:45]  No, man, because this isn't like the end of the rainbow.
[00:54:49]  Like, this is like we're getting to inflection point.
[00:54:53]  Right.
[00:54:53]  And they think that just releasing all of this strategic oil of reserve is going to change something.
[00:54:59]  We blew up everything at this point.
[00:55:02]  We're blowing up refineries.
[00:55:04]  We're blowing up pipelines.
[00:55:06]  We're doing all of that.
[00:55:07]  And it's on both sides.
[00:55:08]  And we're, and these take years.
[00:55:11]  Take years to get back into play.
[00:55:13]  The oil supply is based off of also your output.
[00:55:17]  There's no way that you can create the supply that actually meets the demand.
[00:55:21]  They hit the place in Qatar that's responsible for like 6 million barrels a day.
[00:55:25]  And the Saudis opened up the emergency pathway in the Red Sea.
[00:55:29]  And that's only like 2 million a day.
[00:55:30]  Oh, and they're going to probably attack that too.
[00:55:33]  Sure.
[00:55:33]  How much do you want to bet?
[00:55:34]  The Houthis have already announced that they're planning on doing stuff around that area.
[00:55:38]  I mean, but he says it's okay.
[00:55:39]  He says it's worth it.
[00:55:40]  If we do what Trump's ultimatum is in the next 48 hours, get it energy.
[00:55:46]  Mark my word, guys.
[00:55:48]  If he does that, Iran is going to go ballistic.
[00:55:53]  Nuclear.
[00:55:54]  Well, you know, almost.
[00:55:55]  They'll hit the nuclear.
[00:55:55]  They've hit Demona.
[00:55:56]  Like that, this is how this accelerates, guys.
[00:55:59]  Because at that point, if you're so far backed into a corner, you're like, I got nothing left to lose.
[00:56:04]  I'm just going to be swinging.
[00:56:07]  They are just going to swing for the fences.
[00:56:08]  And that's the thing: we're online.
[00:56:10]  We follow the news.
[00:56:11]  We follow these events.
[00:56:13]  How this guy's terminally online.
[00:56:14]  His whole profession is clicks.
[00:56:16]  You're not doing this out of political awareness or because this is an opinion.
[00:56:19]  You're doing this because it's profitable.
[00:56:21]  Profitable.
[00:56:21]  I think ego is involved here.
[00:56:23]  Like, there's a lot of things.
[00:56:25]  Let's write this super chat.
[00:56:27]  Thank you, 701 Overland for the super chat.
[00:56:30]  Great talk.
[00:56:31]  Needed to see some of this tonight.
[00:56:33]  We appreciate you.
[00:56:35]  You keep going.
[00:56:35]  Yeah, we're always glad to be at home for people.
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[00:56:39]  Got another super chat that we're going to read real quick from Sabazinator or Sabinator 5567.
[00:56:46]  Uh-oh, 6-7.
[00:56:47]  Uh-oh.
[00:56:48]  A big, a bit off topic, but can you get Harrison to interview Max Egan either on the War Room or Moonbase?
[00:56:54]  We'll talk to him about that.
[00:56:55]  Thank you for your super chat.
[00:56:55]  Thanks for the super chat, guys.
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[00:56:59]  Indeed, indeed.
[00:57:00]  Let's play the rest of the Misfit Patriot video real quick.
[00:57:05]  You fucking more.
[00:57:07]  Oh, my God.
[00:57:08]  Gas is a little bit expensive.
[00:57:10]  I don't know.
[00:57:10]  Where the fuck were you for the past four years under Biden?
[00:57:14]  It was expensive then, too, and we weren't killing terrorists for it.
[00:57:19]  We're going, oh, my God.
[00:57:20]  Look, if this shit is still going on in a couple of years, you can, maybe I'll, maybe I'll be on your fucking team fucking two and a half, three weeks in.
[00:57:29]  Oh, my God.
[00:57:31]  How are we going to afford it?
[00:57:32]  You fucking afforded it under Democrats for a while now.
[00:57:36]  Do any of you live in California?
[00:57:38]  How the fuck do you survive?
[00:57:42]  Gas is a straight-o-hornoose.
[00:57:44]  It's not worth it.
[00:57:46]  Not worth it.
[00:57:46]  All right.
[00:57:49]  All right.
[00:57:49]  That'll be played for years.
[00:57:51]  That will be studied for years.
[00:57:53]  In colleges, they'll play that video and they'll talk about it and they'll talk about the various problems of it.
[00:58:00]  I mean, it'll be a part of compilations.
[00:58:02]  It'll be a part of memes, you name it.
[00:58:04]  And here's the thing: it's just like, we just have the correct position, which is this is bad.
[00:58:07]  It needs to stop.
[00:58:08]  You can talk about causality.
[00:58:10]  You can make arguments, X, Y, Z. Ultimately, it's a war of aggression.
[00:58:13]  It is.
[00:58:14]  And I was going to do a deep dive tonight on, you know, the causality and the trickle-down effect of how this is going to affect you back at home because it isn't a joke at this point.
[00:58:23]  And everyone's paying attention to gas prices.
[00:58:26]  And we're talking about gas prices, but the one you need to pay attention to is diesel prices.
[00:58:30]  That's the one that's going to kick.
[00:58:33]  We're going to cover this tomorrow on the American Journal.
[00:58:37]  And if you guys want to catch us in the morning, if you're on your way to commute, on your commute to work, this will be a very good one for you guys to tune into and listen to.
[00:58:45]  But I'm pretty much going to be breaking down like the economic impact this is going to happen because now we have data from 2022 of what ended up happening after the Ukraine war and some of the situations that happened with that.
[00:58:57]  So newsletter, want to let people know.
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[01:03:30]  You didn't even have the beard at that time.
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[01:03:35]  He shaved a mustache and it's all, it's all, it's all there, man.
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[01:04:18]  Buy all your food now.
[01:04:19]  You're not going to be able to in three months max.
[01:04:21]  I think it's a good idea for people to have some storable food at the very minimum.
[01:04:23]  We got to have water.
[01:04:25]  That's a big deal.
[01:04:26]  Thank God there's no nukes or atomic bombs to worry about.
[01:04:30]  That is.
[01:04:30]  The power plants are dangerous and deadly enough.
[01:04:33]  Yeah.
[01:04:33]  I mean, it's just another way for him to escalate.
[01:04:35]  You know, this is about food without farmers and fertilizer and diesel.
[01:04:39]  It's over from Ivan.
[01:04:40]  Absolutely true.
[01:04:41]  Diesel might hit $7 in the AM at Ranger.
[01:04:45]  Ranger, where do you live, man?
[01:04:46]  Diesel at $7 is crazy.
[01:04:48]  Probably California.
[01:04:49]  I'll be honest.
[01:04:51]  How do you afford to live?
[01:04:53]  You can't.
[01:04:54]  It's crazy.
[01:04:56]  And that's what I'm going to be covering on my deep dive is like just how much actually impacts you because it's all connected.
[01:05:03]  Everything is connected from the car that you, not the car that you drive.
[01:05:07]  I'm sorry, from everything from transportation.
[01:05:09]  Food.
[01:05:10]  Food, everything.
[01:05:11]  And fertilizer is one of those big things that we were talking about last time.
[01:05:15]  It's a total nightmare, like 30% of the world's fertilizer.
[01:05:18]  I saw this thing about American farmers.
[01:05:19]  I'm worried they're making land inhabitable or uninhabitable for the technocracy or whatever Ashley says there.
[01:05:26]  Yeah, I totally agree.
[01:05:28]  I mean, that's a part of all of it, man.
[01:05:30]  Can we just quickly cover the Trump's tweet real quick?
[01:05:33]  We can close out with that.
[01:05:34]  Oh, man.
[01:05:35]  All right.
[01:05:35]  This is for tomorrow.
[01:05:36]  We'll do a lot of this tomorrow, too.
[01:05:38]  Where is it?
[01:05:38]  We scroll down on the document.
[01:05:39]  I'll be able to find it.
[01:05:41]  Scroll down.
[01:05:42]  Going, going, good.
[01:05:45]  All right.
[01:05:45]  Maybe it's up top.
[01:05:46]  Actually, no, keep scrolling.
[01:05:48]  You want me to search Trump?
[01:05:50]  Oh, it's no.
[01:05:53]  Which one?
[01:05:54]  Was it?
[01:05:54]  Oh, Trump is pleased that Mueller is dead.
[01:05:56]  Is that the one you're referring to?

=== Tomorrow's Grand Title (04:57) ===

[01:05:58]  I'm talking about, he's like, you've got 48 hours.
[01:06:00]  Oh, okay.
[01:06:01]  Maybe we got to, we go find that on Twitter really quick.
[01:06:03]  Okay, that's going to have to go find it.
[01:06:04]  I didn't have that.
[01:06:05]  Yeah, because that was the big news of today.
[01:06:07]  It was like, you've got 48 hours before we just obliterate everything.
[01:06:11]  From Merzadotes 13, loved your supplement show Friday.
[01:06:15]  Yeah.
[01:06:15]  So, Tim, you're going to be there like three, four days a week.
[01:06:18]  Right.
[01:06:18]  That's what we think.
[01:06:19]  Like one of the days out of the week, I'm going to do a show that's primarily supplement information for you guys.
[01:06:23]  He's like, I'm the supplement guru, self-proclaimed, but I am one because I say I am.
[01:06:26]  That's how the world works.
[01:06:28]  One of my dad's favorite quotes or my favorite quote of my father is, oh, you're the senior media analyst.
[01:06:33]  Let me give myself some grand title.
[01:06:35]  Because your owner of the company can appoint yourself whatever you want.
[01:06:38]  You can literally be whatever you want.
[01:06:40]  So I like, why don't you give yourself some grand title?
[01:06:43]  Is this the one if Iran doesn't fully open?
[01:06:45]  You throw that in there.
[01:06:46]  Here, I'll share this with you, Wes, and we can pull this up real quick.
[01:06:50]  We just look at this and like, yeah, well, Trump's threatening 48 hours to turn the power off in a country of 92 million people.
[01:06:56]  I guess it is what it is because that's how crazy the news is right now.
[01:07:00]  It's how wild it is.
[01:07:02]  Okay, post to the link in the DMs.
[01:07:05]  And shout out to the older audience.
[01:07:07]  Shout out to the older people listening to the show.
[01:07:09]  When I rag on the boomers, I'm not ragging on you guys.
[01:07:11]  I love you guys.
[01:07:12]  Yeah, we got to find another turn.
[01:07:15]  Dude, Maureen is such an angel, man.
[01:07:17]  She's awesome.
[01:07:18]  She's such an hey, I see your dog, Maureen.
[01:07:20]  If you're in, if you're in the chat, we love Maureen.
[01:07:23]  She's been there since day one.
[01:07:24]  A lot of our day ones.
[01:07:25]  I'm going to remember most of our day ones.
[01:07:28]  A lot of people who are very active in the chat at the end of the day.
[01:07:31]  Wes, you got that pulled up.
[01:07:32]  Go ahead and pull that up.
[01:07:33]  The first hour was good.
[01:07:35]  I'm sorry, the second and third hour weren't as good.
[01:07:37]  I did get a little janky, but it was hard with the supplement info.
[01:07:40]  That's the first time I've done like live pitch.
[01:07:43]  Okay, so this is what he's saying.
[01:07:44]  If Iran doesn't fully open without threat, actually, I want you to read it because you do good.
[01:07:50]  Hold on, hold on.
[01:07:50]  All right.
[01:07:51]  We'll be like a little bit longer.
[01:07:52]  I'll get in here.
[01:07:53]  Get into character real quick.
[01:07:54]  That's the thing.
[01:07:54]  They say, like, you know, like Brad Pitt for Fight Club, he stopped smoking, or not, not Fight Club for Shutter Island or whatever the movie was, where he was like an insane person.
[01:08:03]  They said the acting coach, all they had to tell him to do was stop smoking cigarettes and then he would act like that anyway.
[01:08:08]  And he did.
[01:08:09]  When you put on the green goblin mask, when you put on the black Spider-Man outfit, when you put on, when you put on the Trump, you become a little bit Trump yourself.
[01:08:19]  You can't avoid doing it.
[01:08:21]  It's true.
[01:08:21]  If Iran doesn't fully open without threat of the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours from this exact button time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various nuclear power plants, starting with the biggest one first.
[01:08:34]  Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
[01:08:39]  Come back to us.
[01:08:40]  Come back to us.
[01:08:42]  Yeah, I mean, we're like 20 hours away, I think, at this point.
[01:08:45]  Actually, get it up really quick.
[01:08:46]  Let's see when it went out.
[01:08:48]  Send me to the front lines, sir.
[01:08:50]  That's right.
[01:08:51]  That's right.
[01:08:51]  I want to be there out on the straight, man.
[01:08:53]  We're going to send you to the most dangerous part of the island.
[01:08:57]  You're probably going to die.
[01:08:58]  And then I'm going to take a photo of your coffin when you come home.
[01:09:01]  I'm going to send it in a newsletter.
[01:09:03]  I'm going to send an email and say, give me $50, please.
[01:09:05]  Give me $50.
[01:09:06]  I'll make sure that $50 comes from my kids' piggy bank, sir.
[01:09:10]  Literally.
[01:09:10]  And here's the thing, people.
[01:09:11]  Trump sends out campaign emails or fundraising emails where he goes, be a part of my national security briefing.
[01:09:19]  And in the photo they use for it, it's him saluting coffins.
[01:09:24]  Somebody had to do it.
[01:09:26]  Somebody had to do it.
[01:09:27]  I had to do it.
[01:09:28]  I had to take a photo by the coffin.
[01:09:29]  It's a good picture.
[01:09:31]  Okay.
[01:09:32]  Proud to serve my country.
[01:09:34]  Oh, man.
[01:09:35]  Okay.
[01:09:35]  All right.
[01:09:35]  I'm taking the Bane outfit off.
[01:09:37]  Okay.
[01:09:38]  So I'm tapped out, man.
[01:09:39]  Yeah, I am too.
[01:09:40]  So tomorrow, we've got an early 8 a.m. Show from 8 to 11.
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[01:09:50]  I'm sorry you didn't like it, Ranger.
[01:09:51]  I apologize.
[01:09:52]  I'm going to commit Sepiku.
[01:09:54]  That's a joke.
[01:09:55]  Joke.
[01:09:55]  I'm not being real.
[01:09:57]  No, you're totally fine.
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