Sept. 15, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
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| You know, Tim, after disconnecting from news for years and then going back into the geopolitical situation, really just like one or two years ago is when I decided to consciously start paying attention again. | ||
| I've been kind of shocked and dismayed at what we've seen across the globe. | ||
| And domestically here in America, we don't get the real news. | ||
| We are the most propagandized people in the world. | ||
| We are fed whatever our politicians want to feed us to get elected in that next election cycle. | ||
| And that's what the gray area, that's what this show is all about. | ||
| We're trying to give the real news to people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We're not trying to go to extremes. | ||
| We're trying to find the gray area in between where people can actually find the truth. | ||
| That's why this show is called the gray area. | ||
| We talk about the things in the middle, right? | ||
| Things that they don't want us to consider because they want us to live in a world of extremes. | ||
| Because in a world of extremes, it's easy to be scared. | ||
| But if you live in reality, sure, reality might be terrifying, but at least you know what's going on. | ||
| Oh, and it's also easy when you live in extremes to keep people controlled because then you can control the narrative. | ||
| Then you can actually tell people what they should be listening to, what they should believe. | ||
| And when you talk about the gray areas, then you get to see the perspective on other sides. | ||
| Why are we doing this show, Tim? | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| What is going on with the economy right now? | ||
| Dude, we've got a lot of news cycle. | ||
| It's hot out there right now. | ||
| It is hot. | ||
| It's really hot for foreign businesses that want to do business with us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, because we're making them pay, making them pay a lot. | ||
| Yeah, we've got a lot of tariff stuff going on right now. | ||
| I mean, the purpose of that was supposed to bring, what, American jobs. | ||
| We were trying to show America first. | ||
| But it doesn't seem like it's going as planned right now. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it does. | ||
| And it's also an attempt to service our debt, right? | ||
| So the thought is the American taxpayer is not bringing in enough money to do anything about our deficit or less the national debt as well. | ||
| So we're in a situation now where in an effort to revitalize America, we're kind of beating other countries over the head with a club. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, you've got issues that are happening internationally where like I think everybody kind of understands what's happening on that scope. | ||
| But I don't think I haven't really seen in the news too much of the actual things that are happening here domestically. | ||
| It's not pretty to talk about. | ||
| It's not fun to talk about how people are suffering here domestically based on what's happened. | ||
| I mean, we're going to get into farmers here as a huge example, but people are finding other places to buy their soybeans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've got like different avenues where that's happening. | ||
| So you've got like soybeans that are more costlier. | ||
| You've got a lot of the imports that they have where they need to bring in, you know, fertilizer, those types of things are causing issues. | ||
| Even replacement parts are an issue. | ||
| I used to actually work. | ||
| I'm an engineer. | ||
| So I used to work in the agriculture department where we would build massive combines and we would build a lot of these harvesters and things. | ||
| And most of those spare parts, the actual parts that go into them, like your typical John Deere, that stuff comes from overseas. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we don't have the skilled manufacturing base to make that stuff here, even if we wanted to. | ||
| And that's kind of the core issue, right? | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| I think what we should do is I do want to go, let's watch this clip because this kind of shows what's happening here and how it feels for the farmers out here. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Let's go to the clip. | ||
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Montana farmers are voicing frustrations over the Trump administration's use of tariffs. | |
| During a press briefing, farmers and ranchers highlighted what tariffs are doing to their livelihood. | ||
| NBC Montana's Bowen West joined the hearing and breaks it down. | ||
| Tariffs are having a real impact right here in the Treasure State with farmers and ranchers feeling it firsthand. | ||
| Food systems moving out of the country, prices on food and tools going up, and broken trade relations are just a handful of the issues. | ||
| Nobody wants to do business with us, whether it's Japan, Australia, Euro, Paraguay, anybody. | ||
| They don't want to do business with us because they have no idea what's going to happen. | ||
| It doesn't make any good business sense. | ||
| A talking point was the impact tariffs have on the mental health of farmers. | ||
| An expert said it's causing more stress. | ||
| According to some estimates, it's all just uncertainty. | ||
| No one knows what's going to go on. | ||
| No one knows what's going to happen this day to the next. | ||
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Farmers and ranchers have the highest incident of suicide of any occupation in the nation. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That's pretty serious. | ||
| It's not just Montana farmers feeling the pressure. | ||
| Data from Bloomberg shows 173 small farms across the country have filed for bankruptcy since President Trump took office. | ||
| Well, you know, it's called winning, Tim. | ||
| I don't know if you know about that. | ||
| It's called winning. | ||
| It's called America First. | ||
| We're doing tariffs. | ||
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So good high-quality food is going to become food of the rich. | |
| Well, you know, the interesting thing about all of this, right, is the fact that other countries, they don't take our food for a variety of reasons. | ||
| This is just an additional thing on top of it. | ||
| Like Europe, they won't take our chicken because it's washed with bleach. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Policy against that, right? | ||
| And then even countries like China, we look at, we point out, they don't want to take our soybeans because there are a lot of them GMO and harsh pesticide. | ||
| So these guys are already having a super hard time finding ways to sell their product in foreign markets. | ||
| And this is just the final nail in the coffin. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Why would you do business with us? | ||
| Why would you do business here? | ||
| 1,000%. | ||
| And they're actually retaliating in these other countries because they're like, we don't need your food. | ||
| You know, we can go get soybeans from other places. | ||
| We can go get pork. | ||
| We can go get dairy. | ||
| We can go get all these other things like fruits and nuts from other countries that aren't behaving this way towards us. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And this was always part of America's great strength. | ||
| You know, we may not have the rare earth minerals. | ||
| We may not have some of these other components and whatnot. | ||
| But what we did have was massive farmland and the ability to grow a lot of crops. | ||
| And you've seen the general decline of that over years and years and years. | ||
| And it's kind of like the coal industry, right? | ||
| Where every president will come in and they'll say, we're going to help you out. | ||
| We're going to bring the jobs back. | ||
| We're going to fix the problem. | ||
| And the problem continues to get worse and worse and worse. | ||
| And you see, the tariffs are, we're trying to help these people, but no, we're hurting these people. | ||
| Oh, we tried to do, remember we tried to do the same thing before a very big situation back in the 1900s. | ||
| What caused the Great Depression? | ||
| The Dust Bowl. | ||
| Dust Bowl, then you also had the tariffs that we tried to do at that time period. | ||
| I mean, they tried to play the same playbook at that point in time, and it ended up messing up the entire country because then it caused a lot of the same issues right now that we're seeing live in 2025. | ||
| I think what happens is when you don't have people alive from the historical period where the crisis happened, you lose all frame of reference. | ||
| Well, we get amnesia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think we've really reached that point, you know, 20 years ago with the full deindustrialization of the nation. | ||
| And it works if you're a rich country and you have the ability to print IOUs and you're buying these things from other places. | ||
| It doesn't work when you then say, oh, we're not going to issue these IOUs anymore. | ||
| We want you to come pay us money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's like on the drop of a dime, right? | ||
| They're expecting all of these things to happen and like countries are supposed to move for us. | ||
| But another thing I want to point out is not just the farmers are being affected, but they're about to start hitting everyone at home too. | ||
| We got an article here that talks about what actual things are about to happen and which companies are going to increase their prices. | ||
| We got this article here. | ||
| These companies expect to raise their prices due to Trump tariffs. | ||
| On this list, we've got Walmart, Mattel, Best Buy, Timu, Sheen, Ford, Volvo, just to name a few. | ||
| And the only reason why a lot of these haven't hit us yet is just because the manufacturers, they were the ones absorbing the cost this entire time. | ||
| And you saw that when it came to the PPI index, which kind of showed one of the largest jumps, I think it was like 0.9%. | ||
| And that jumped really, that was one of the highest jumps that we've ever seen in years. | ||
| And so now you're going to get to a point where we're going to start passing these costs. | ||
| They're not going to keep absorbing or front loading all the costs. | ||
| It's going to come into our pockets. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And we're still living in an economy, or we were living in an economy even like a year or two ago that was dominated by the post-COVID era, by all the fake money that was printed, essentially. | ||
| All these retail chains like Target, Walmart, they had massive overstock. | ||
| So they were able to absorb those costs in a way that they're really not able to do anymore. | ||
| And people still expect that. | ||
| So I think that's a very interesting thing to look into, right? | ||
| Because we're living in an age now where we're five years removed from the pandemic. | ||
| And that's a long time. | ||
| That's half a decade. | ||
| And you kind of blink, you close your eyes, and these things happen. | ||
| You don't notice, but we're here. | ||
| Everyone's always like, oh, you know, we're just going to wait for the next year. | ||
| And things continue to get worse and get worse and get worse. | ||
| And with Biden and what he was doing, you know, I'm very critical of Biden, but I would say he really exposed us as a military power across the globe. | ||
| Trump is really exposing us or for being a lack of an economic power, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because we don't have the ability to have all this leverage. | ||
| It's kind of like a mouse barking at a tiger type of situation versus all these places, even these poor countries, they have the ability to make things. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| And this effort to kind of snap our fingers and return back to an age where we have the manufacturing power and we have the dominant ability to just print this money, it doesn't work together. | ||
| The two ideas are not congruent. | ||
| So you talk about these companies that are leaving here or deciding not to build factories here. | ||
| What's going on with Volvo? | ||
| So, I mean, you've got parts that are coming international, just like I said with the farming equipment. | ||
| I mean, you've got all these different components that come from different parts. | ||
| You've got raw materials that go in. | ||
| You've got transportation costs. | ||
| So if you stack all of that up, and not even just that, I'm talking labor with a lot of these places. | ||
| They've moved them internationally for a reason. | ||
| It is expensive. | ||
| It is expensive for us to be able to actually, we have all these W-2. | ||
| We've got people on healthcare. | ||
| We've got an expensive healthcare system, which we won't get into, but you've got all of these factors stacked on top of each other for another show for sure. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I mean, but all of that means that if we were to make them here, then you're going to see the cost of that as a labor cost go into the final product. | ||
| You know, it's interesting that you bring that up because it makes me think of our military equipment, right? | ||
| So we have the ability to produce an amount of missiles in a year that Russia can make in two months, right? | ||
| And you think about it and you look at the situation, you go, we have the most powerful economy. | ||
| We put the most money into defense. | ||
| Why can't we just churn these things out? | ||
| Well, the system is designed to be broken, right? | ||
| It's not designed to work. | ||
| These companies are extracting the maximum amount of capital they can and producing really like a mediocre, dismal product. | ||
| It's almost an exact parallel of our healthcare system. | ||
| I know we're talking about private industry today, and that's the topic of the show. | ||
| But if you look at what's going on on a government level, the things that are publicly funded by us, such as military defense and healthcare, it's really bad. | ||
| We pay the most to get a mediocre product. | ||
| And we're seeing that in the private market even more skewed. | ||
| We're paying the most to get a horrible product, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how I see it. | ||
| And now you can see that some of these companies, you've got private companies that are basically coming. | ||
| They're coming to the White House now. | ||
| Yeah, they're giving Trump. | ||
| They're begging. | ||
| They're begging. | ||
| Did you see the 24-carat plaque that Tim Cook gave to the president? | ||
| You know, Trump likes shiny objects. | ||
| It amuses him, kind of like a child. | ||
| Let's show the clip because that's going to really put it in perspective. | ||
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We asked for this box was made here in the U.S., California. | |
| And this flag comes on the 41 for President Trump. | ||
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It's a unique unit of one. | |
| It was designed by a U.S. Marine Corps corporal, a former one, that works at Apple now. | ||
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He's done well. | |
| And the base comes from Utah and is 24-karat gold. | ||
| And it is made in Utah, not China. | ||
| It's made in America. | ||
| Very important. | ||
| See, as long as you can just say these things, like that's all that matters anymore. | ||
| It's like the Cracker Barrel rebrand. | ||
| Look at that crap. | ||
| Well, that's what's important to us in our society, or I guess to our president and therefore to our society. | ||
| What's important is the shiny award, the pat on the back, the you are the great leader. | ||
| And it just becomes more and more apparent to me, at least, that the emperor has no clothes, both the administration and our nation as a whole. | ||
| Because while this is happening, China is eating our lunch. | ||
| While this is happening, China is building floating oil platforms in Venezuela, right? | ||
| But Trump gets the shiny award. | ||
| So we're supposed to clap and applaud this as, you know, the resurgence of the great American economy. | ||
| And you see Howard Luttnick, you know, kind of Secretary of Commerce, chuckling in the back. | ||
| And that just, it makes me sick, man, to be honest with you, because people are suffering. | ||
| You know, Americans are suffering. | ||
| There are more jobs, like, there are more people that want jobs than there are jobs available. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I looked at a recent post about this. | ||
| You have for the first time the inflection where now there's more people looking for jobs than there are jobs available. | ||
| And you've got all of the mess that's going on with like the jobs reports and things like that. | ||
| I mean, boots on the ground, you can clearly see that there's an issue. | ||
| There's a massive issue. | ||
| We can all see that there's a massive issue. | ||
| At the same time, you've got Apple who's saying, okay, we're going to move our glass manufacturing here into Kentucky, which, by the way, that doesn't happen overnight. | ||
| You're talking about years and billions of dollars worth of effort that it takes to bring all of that here into America. | ||
| I forget if it was the Qataris or the Emiratis who promised, you know, like a trillion over 10 years or some craziness like this. | ||
| Like, how does that actually happen? | ||
| Because you look at these places, their governments never change, right? | ||
| It's the same people for 20, 30, 40 years, even longer. | ||
| It's dynasties. | ||
| Putin's been in office 25 years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you look at us, and every four years, eight years, there's a new guy. | ||
| So if you're looking at the situation critically, these other countries are just able to work us because they're actually able to do strategy as opposed to the tactics that we try to impose. | ||
| Like we might try to impose a new tactic, like the tariff is a perfect example, right? | ||
| But we don't have any sort of grand strategy because what people run on when they run against the guy in office, they go, We're going to do it completely different because it's not working out. | ||
| But all parties, all people involved, all the politicians, all the administrations, they're doing the same thing. | ||
| It's a Pied Piper scenario. | ||
| Well, here's the most important part about that. | ||
| You've got, I'm in manufacturing. | ||
| So to actually build a manufacturing hub today, it takes there's a long lead time. | ||
| And when you go and you create a whole facility, you've got to do the entire layouts. | ||
| You've got to have everything figured out from the processes that go into place. | ||
| You can't just move that stuff overnight. | ||
| Yeah, but we say we can. | ||
| We say we can do whatever we want. | ||
| This is what makes me angry because you build for 10-year plans. | ||
| You don't build for next week. | ||
| So if somebody can come into the White House the next day and they can say, hey, you know what? | ||
| With the stroke of a pen, we're just going to sign this off and we're going to remove the tariffs. | ||
| We're going to remove all of these different things. | ||
| And then what you just spent the last three years building, this massive complex, you've now put yourself at a disadvantage because you've already built this thing here and now your competition is right back up and running overseas. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And you look at it. | ||
| You look at all our policies and like we've talked about, it's tactics instead of strategy. | ||
| It's these short-term plans. | ||
| And there's no one you can vote against to make it stop because everyone you vote for is for the same thing. | ||
| Ultimately, no one wants to change the system. | ||
| And you look at, you know, there's a serious debate as to whether these tariffs are constitutional or not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And judges have said things and Trump says the judges aren't valid and they go back and forth. | ||
| And it's just like, you know, Congress was supposed to be the only place that could declare war, but now the president can attack whenever he wants. | ||
| It's an emergency. | ||
| It's an executive order. | ||
| So I get to do it. | ||
| We get to do it. | ||
| And when you are critical of the administration for doing things like this, people look at you and they go, you're anti-American. | ||
| You're un-American. | ||
| Support our president. | ||
| Support what they're doing. | ||
| You know, I may not, I mean, I like the president, but I respect the president. | ||
| And I used to hear that a lot with like Obama, like back in the day. | ||
| Like people would still have, you know, respect for the president and like Trump's first term, like people hated Trump, but still respect for the office. | ||
| We've really reached a point to where the office is mutated into it is the government. | ||
| The executive branch has far more power than the legislative or the judiciary. | ||
| Oh, and it's being hard tested now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, I've never seen, I mean, you've got different administrations that prove, okay, what they're capable of. | ||
| And I'm not anti-Trump. | ||
| Like, I mean, I definitely, when he got voted in, I was like, I had super high hopes about everything that was going to happen. | ||
| I'm like, oh, thank God, Kamala is not going to make a mess out of this whole place. | ||
| Right, me too. | ||
| I was so excited. | ||
| I was so positive. | ||
| I mean, I voted for him. | ||
| And like, I don't know how I feel about that right now, but going into the end of 2024, going to the election, I was convinced that Kamala was going to start World War III and that if Trump was in office, you know, at least there'd be a little mini boom, you know, and something good would happen for the economy. | ||
| I thought business sells. | ||
| And then you just saw like the sledgehammer come in of like, oh, yeah, you think the currency is devalued? | ||
| Wait, you ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Oh, boom, boom, boom. | ||
| And other countries, they're selling our debt now. | ||
| China used to have a trillion. | ||
| They're at 750 billion. | ||
| They dump our treasuries and they're going to keep doing it until they don't have any. | ||
| And then one day the dinner bell is going to ring and the country will be truly destitute. | ||
| We still have power now. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| We still have power and influence, but every day we whittle it down. | ||
| No, what we've done now is there's now a real case scenario for bricks. | ||
| I mean, I would have never said this five, 10 years ago. | ||
| I'm like, oh, this is the fact that China, Russia, India, Brazil could ever get together with being so vastly different in different aspects that I would even consider something like that working out, let alone China being like one of the main backers. | ||
| I was like, ah, there's no shot. | ||
| But what we've just done in this past, pretty much just this year, it's crazy. | ||
| There's so much stuff that's happened in just this year. | ||
| And one of our most important allies, India, like we need, we needed them. | ||
| I mean, if you think about our main enemy is China, Russia, and we were going to use India as a primary counter in the manufacturing field because they have so much capability and they have the labor that we need. | ||
| You've got Apple moving resources over there. | ||
| You've got a lot of companies that are diversifying their portfolios in order to make sure that China doesn't have control over the U.S. | ||
| But what have we done now? | ||
| We've pushed our friends closer to our enemies. | ||
| You know, I'll get heat for this. | ||
| I really agree with your point here. | ||
| I really agree with your point. | ||
| If you look at it just from a math perspective, four out of five people in the world, the global society, they don't live in the West, right? | ||
| So it becomes a numbers game. | ||
| How are you supposed to be a world power? | ||
| How are you supposed to have global influence? | ||
| How are you supposed to have a strong economy when you have no one to do business with? | ||
| You have no domestic capacity to make or sell anything here, really. | ||
| We're going to need these foreign markets because these countries are going to become rich. | ||
| They're going to become wealthy. | ||
| And as the balance starts to equalize around the globe, what will we be? | ||
| We will just be the place that screwed everybody. | ||
| 1,000%. | ||
| And then you see India, their GDP is now going to pretty quickly surpass Germany. | ||
| And they're going to hit that number three spot pretty fast. | ||
| You know, I mean, Germany promised to spend like it's like another hundred billion on defense or something crazy like this. | ||
| Like, we're going to make weapons. | ||
| We're going to go fight Russia. | ||
| It's all just grotesque. | ||
| It's Kafka-esque almost. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| The delusion doesn't work because we don't live in 2003 anymore. | ||
| We live in 2025. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We are in the future. | ||
| The future is now and we have been left behind. | ||
| And our only hope as a society was to actually bring manufacturing back here. | ||
| But you can't do that by hitting other people over the head. | ||
| You have to domestically incentivize people. | ||
| You have to build the infrastructure here, which is something we've done in the past. | ||
| We didn't do that this time. | ||
| No. | ||
| We say, okay, sign up. | ||
| So just wave a pen and it's over. | ||
| We fixed the problem. | ||
| Well, and you see the biggest issue that's coming with these 50% tariffs. | ||
| Now India has the highest tariffs among everybody. | ||
| You would think that China would be the number one spot for the tariff situation, but we've put India in that category somehow. | ||
| So I want to go and watch this clip. | ||
| This is what their response was this entire time, given the whole tariff situation and that 50% that's being stacked on top of us. | ||
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The United States has in recent days targeted India's oil imports from Russia. | |
| We have already made clear our position on these issues, including the fact that our imports are based on market factors and done with the overall objective of ensuring the energy security of 1.4 billion people of India. | ||
| It is therefore extremely unfortunate that the U.S. should choose to impose additional tariffs on India for actions that several other countries are also taking in their own nationality. | ||
| This is a perfect example of us talking out of both sides of our mouth. | ||
| We say, oh, we want to end the Ukraine war. | ||
| We want it over. | ||
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And then we don't have to necessarily take all actions necessary to protect its national interests. | |
| This is what the Indian statement has said. | ||
| In an earlier statement, India had accused the United States and European Union of double standards. | ||
| I mean, look at that right there. | ||
| We're just going to pause it and look at this. | ||
| All these world leaders, these are the great powers, the great leaders, the countries that they rule, the European nations, they don't produce anything at all. | ||
| They don't make nothing. | ||
| They make zero zilch, nada. | ||
| They don't have any rare earths. | ||
| They don't have any farming. | ||
| They don't have any resources. | ||
| They don't have any manufacturing. | ||
| Germany, the one place that did have a manufacturing base, has become destitute because of the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline. | ||
| And then now it's so funny thinking about this, right? | ||
| Because when the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was destroyed, there was a massive denial of who did it for about two years. | ||
| It was, oh, like, we don't know how this happened. | ||
| It's mysterious. | ||
| It just blew up. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It just blew up. | ||
| Of course, like our Navy SEALs did it or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, we did it. | ||
| We admitted we did it. | ||
| Yeah, and we admitted we did it, right? | ||
| So you look at the whole scenario, we crippled Germany. | ||
| And then Germany like crawls around on the floor and thanks us for crippling them. | ||
| And then we go after India. | ||
| We say, oh, we're going to cripple you with these sanctions. | ||
| India is not Germany where they have no agency. | ||
| They have the ability, like they're already in BRICS, right? | ||
| They're in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. | ||
| They have the ability, both on a security perspective and on an economic perspective to say no to us. | ||
| So why would these nations choose to do business with us, Tim? | ||
| Here's the worst part about that situation. | ||
| It's not even just the fact of who they choose to do business. | ||
| Back when the Ukrainian war started, guess who asked India to import all of that oil? | ||
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We did. | |
| We did. | ||
| I kid you not. | ||
| Back in 2022, the amount of imports for oil at that time, India had only about 0.2%. | ||
| As soon as the Russian war had started, the United States. saw all the instability that happened with all of the markets. | ||
| And so in order to stabilize the market, we asked for India to buy all of that Russian oil in order to help us here back at home because we hadn't started really digging and producing that much oil in order to stabilize it ourselves. | ||
| So they went from 0.2% and over the course of those three years went up to 36%. | ||
| And so now, now that we're sitting here trying to say, okay, well, you're buying Russian oil. | ||
| We're going to punish you with a 50% tariff. | ||
| But we asked you to do that three years ago under the Biden administration in order to make sure that things were good for us. | ||
| So how do we expect people to like us? | ||
| And see, this is a perfect example of what we were talking about just 10, 15 minutes ago, talking about the strategic versus tactical decisions. | ||
| Strategy happens over decades. | ||
| Tactics happen over months. | ||
| We're making these horrible tactical decisions in effort to get some sort of short-term response from these nations, from these countries. | ||
| And they look at it and they go, okay, so we did the thing that you wanted. | ||
| You came back and screwed us. | ||
| We went to go work with somebody else who wasn't going to screw us. | ||
| You came and said, oh, no, no, you can't do that. | ||
| You have to keep letting us screw you. | ||
| And then we do it again. | ||
| How are these countries? | ||
| I'm surprised they do any business with this at all. | ||
| Of course, they have to, right? | ||
| Because petro dollar and there's certain elements remaining a Western and financial power and whatnot. | ||
| But it's coming to a close here. | ||
| Like this is not, it's not going to happen in the new administration. | ||
| Whoever is president next is going to really have to deal with the chickens coming home to roost, in my opinion. | ||
| Oh, the sun is setting on the West at this point. | ||
| I think it's pretty clear as day. | ||
| And I hate that. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| We're not fans of that. | ||
| We're not coming here to just be negative or just like talk positively about foreign places, but we love America. | ||
| We're sad about what's happened here, but you can't deny what's happened here. | ||
| What's happened here is the gutting of the West. | ||
| And, you know, since I was a little kid, all I can ever remember is America in decline, America in decline, America in decline. | ||
| When have we ever heard anything good? | ||
| We haven't. | ||
| It's been at least a decade because I can remember back in the day, we were getting back to normality after the 08 crisis and stuff. | ||
| In the early 2000, life was good. | ||
| I mean, I saw all the deals that we were making happen. | ||
| We were way ahead of everybody. | ||
| And I don't know how in a 25-year period, we ended up here. | ||
| It's got to be by design at a certain level, right? | ||
| Because it just doesn't make sense to me why we would do this to ourselves. | ||
| I guess maybe we are so worldly and stupid that we don't understand, right? | ||
| That may also be a factor, but maybe the global community has decided that we're just going to, we're not going to fight America. | ||
| We're not going to mess with them. | ||
| We're just going to let them do it to themselves. | ||
| You know, I have a great idea. | ||
| This is what we need to do. | ||
| When you get elected into any type of cabinet or any position of power, you need to take a class on history. | ||
| That way you can learn because somehow we decided to stop learning history and all the different mistakes that we made back in middle school and high school. | ||
| That was a very big thing. | ||
| But in order to make sure that we don't repeat the same mistakes, that's why we have history in place. | ||
| So if we were to have all of our Congress to sit down in a nice little history class and just be like, okay, so you tell me what happened back in the 1920s. | ||
| And then we'll go from there. | ||
| And then we can kind of really start processing how we make these rules and going forward. | ||
| You'd have to pay them to do it. | ||
| You'd have to give them a bunch of money and be like, hey, all right. | ||
| So like free pack money, anyone that wants it, you got to take civics and historical literacy. | ||
| Maybe they would do it then. | ||
| I mean, I just don't have a lot of hope because all our politicians are ancient. | ||
| They're all 80 years old. | ||
| And you'd think that the old people would know, but they seem to know the least. | ||
| I mean, I've seen congressmen talk about islands capsizing and crazy stuff. | ||
| We'll pull up clips like this later, but it's real scary. | ||
| It's a really scary time to be an American, especially for people like us. | ||
| We're business owners. | ||
| We want to be positive. | ||
| We're entrepreneurs. | ||
| You're a manufacturer. | ||
| I'm in shipping, warehousing. | ||
| It's how do we compete? | ||
| How are we supposed to compete in a global marketplace? | ||
| How are we supposed to compete domestically even with foreign products? | ||
| Because even with the tariffs, the foreign products are superior to the domestic products. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You can't just sit there and slap a tariff and just say, well, now start buying American stuff. | ||
| But if it's not as good, are you going to go sit there and buy the pizza around the corner that's not that tasty versus the one that's maybe in the next town over, but like it's got a line out the door and it's got the best pizza in the world. | ||
| And that's the core of the issue. | ||
| You have to force people to do it. | ||
| You have to force people to do business domestically. | ||
| And that creates resentment. | ||
| That creates uncertainty. | ||
| And that creates ultimately disloyalty to the country, which is not a good thing. | ||
| Not a good thing at all. | ||
| Not a good thing at all. | ||
| We don't support that. | ||
| But what we do support is objective reality. | ||
| And the objective reality is the financial facts on the ground. | ||
| It doesn't make sense for Americans to do business here. | ||
| You know, it doesn't make sense for foreign people to do business here. | ||
| Like it's this country is a no man's land. | ||
| It's not good for anybody because everything's constantly up in the air. | ||
| Who knows what's going to happen next? | ||
| Who knows what Trump is going to decide? | ||
| Who knows where the economy is going to go? | ||
| Who knows what the Fed is going to do? | ||
| It's all nebulous. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| So in a world of make-believe, in a world of creative Minecraft, Trump can just dump lava all over the place and declare it his world, but it's not working for the people on the ground. | ||
| I mean, I've got employees. | ||
| I know you do as well. | ||
| It's not working out. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| And I mean, if you look at some of the stuff that's coming from overseas and you look at how I hate talking this way, but gotta be real. | ||
| I'm gonna be real with people right here. | ||
| We aren't the hardest working people in the world. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This new generation that we have come across where we have this victim mentality and everybody kind of has this next day Amazon delivery kind of mindset, it's messed with us. | ||
| I'm gonna tell you one thing. | ||
| In India and China, they have some of the hardest working people I have ever seen. | ||
| Mexico too. | ||
| And it's hard to compete with that. | ||
| There's the reason why we've moved all of these jobs overseas is not just because of price. | ||
| It's also because, let's say you go to work. | ||
| I'm telling you from personal experience, I've worked in millions, I've worked in hundreds of manufacturing facilities. | ||
| I've seen how people work. | ||
| You'll be working on a product. | ||
| You're going to be doing your job, but then you might sit there and talk to Jimmy for a little bit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Jimmy is sitting there telling you about what happened with his wife and kids this weekend. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And some, I mean, I saw a guy sleeping on the job. | ||
| I saw people knocked out in the middle of a shift, not doing their work. | ||
| Now, if we were to take that same situation and translate it into some place like Mexico or China, they are not allowed to do that. | ||
| They have so much oversight on them. | ||
| It is borderline slavery. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I mean, I'm not necessarily in supportive of the fact, but the fact of the matter is. | ||
| But it was bad here too in the 20s and 30s, right? | ||
| It was bad here, too, when we were industrializing. | ||
| It's they're in ascendancy and we're in decline. | ||
| And the facts on the ground don't change. | ||
| Can complain about the place. | ||
| You can say you don't like their government, whatever. | ||
| We don't like our government here. | ||
| So, ultimately, what does it matter? | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| The facts on the ground matter. | ||
| The facts of the economy matter. | ||
| The global facts matter. | ||
| And we're just, we are not the rising power anymore. | ||
| Now, because we are still a great power, we are still a superpower. | ||
| We are given the opportunity to be a part of the global community. | ||
| And that's what these countries ask us to do. | ||
| Like Russia, they want to develop the Arctic with us. | ||
| They have a nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet that no one else has. | ||
| We have access to the Arctic as well. | ||
| They want to do business with us. | ||
| But oh no, we got to spend two, three hundred billion to fight them. | ||
| I have a question for you. | ||
| How much do you feel like part of this is us being afraid that someone else is either going to take our number one spot or we can't trust Russia and China? | ||
| And how much is it the fact of like these people actually want to do legitimate business? | ||
| Because I get confused sometimes. | ||
| I know China is supposed to be the enemy. | ||
| In some aspects, they definitely do things behind our backs. | ||
| But then how much of it is legitimate? | ||
| Like we want to participate and work together with you. | ||
| Like, what did you do? | ||
| I'm not really buying into the fear-mongering anymore. | ||
| I don't like their governmental system, but I don't like the governmental system here. | ||
| You know, like it's hard to point fingers when you got a log in your own eye, you know, as Jesus would say. | ||
| So I just, I don't know what to believe besides the numbers, right? | ||
| Besides the job numbers, besides the economic numbers, and our deficit keeps getting bigger. | ||
| The national debt keeps getting bigger. | ||
| These other places, they service their debt because they don't have the infinite money printer resource, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Germany is seen as one of the stronger economies in Europe, the strongest economy in Europe. | ||
| And that's because they manage their debt well, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So all these other countries, they have to play, like I use the Minecraft example, they have to play survival mode. | ||
| They have to actually like it matters. | ||
| They have to eat. | ||
| They have to sleep. | ||
| They can't just stay awake all night and fly over the map and do whatever they want. | ||
| And that's what we do. | ||
| And it's like we're in a race where we have the ability to fly and shoot lasers out of our eyes and run a thousand miles an hour or like going in circles, like we're the best, we're the best, we're the best. | ||
| And it's a tortoise versus the hare scenario where we have all the resources here that we need to be the most successful. | ||
| And we just piss it away for nothing. | ||
| I think it's the privilege. | ||
| I think we've gotten away from reality. | ||
| I think it's the privilege. | ||
| We've basically said to everyone else, well, because you decided that we are the reserve currency of the world, it's our little piggy bank. | ||
| And we declare this forever ad infinitum in perpetuity across the universe. | ||
| We get to do whatever we want. | ||
| Yeah, we get to do whatever we want. | ||
| So if our economy sucks over here, you get to feel that too. | ||
| Even though you didn't do anything, you get to experience that too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, that is the modus operandi of the United States. | ||
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Yes. | |
| We are hurting. | ||
| We will make you hurt too. | ||
| And even if we're not hurting, we'll make you hurt, regardless. | ||
| Well, and so now you've got situations where now India has visited China for the first time. | ||
| You've got Modi, who has not been moving towards him this entire time. | ||
| And now the SEO summit just happened, the economic, and they're trying to show everything. | ||
| Let's watch that clip because this is going to put things into perspective, guys. | ||
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The Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit theme song is called The Light in Our Eyes. | |
| Yeah, you see the happiness. | ||
| You know, we're going to make the money. | ||
| We're going to make the money. | ||
| And here it's just golden trophies. | ||
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The sun rises in the east, they say, and has already set in the west. | |
| This is China's geopolitical moment. | ||
| At present, the international landscape is marked by intertwined changes and turbulence, and member states face increasingly arduous tasks in ensuring security and development. | ||
| China is willing to work with all parties. | ||
| I mean, look, it's good propaganda, man. | ||
| And they got the right tools, man. | ||
| They're just saying, come to us, come do business with us. | ||
| We're your friends. | ||
| We're happy here. | ||
| I mean, what do we have here? | ||
| We fly a B-2 bomber over Putin's head. | ||
| We're like, you better not. | ||
| You better not. | ||
| You better not. | ||
| These other countries, they don't operate on intimidation like we do. | ||
| They operate off cooperation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, 20, 30 years ago, even then we couldn't do it. | ||
| Even then the decline had started. | ||
| But we signed our future away for just a few decades of literally doing whatever we wanted. | ||
| And the wealth disparity in America has never been so huge, right? | ||
| You look at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. | ||
| That was a group made up of, I believe, four or five countries in the early 2000s. | ||
| And now it's dozens of countries have joined it. | ||
| And it's the same with BRICS, where it was just this novel idea of, oh, you know, maybe we'll do this if the, you know, the situation becomes right for it across the globe. | ||
| And the situation's been right for it for decades. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They just slowly have formed into this. | ||
| And the moment is here. | ||
| The moment is now. | ||
| Like there's no, there's no more time. | ||
| Well, think about it this way. | ||
| Like in this SEO summit that they have, you've got countries like Iran, countries like North Korea. | ||
| It baffles my mind that this is now the new alliance that is going against America. | ||
| I mean, India should have never been on that list to begin with. | ||
| I mean, that was the one spot that I was like, oh, we've definitely got this, you know? | ||
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No, no, That would be too good. | |
| You see, it would be too nice if we had major manufacturing power that was friendly to us. | ||
| We have to screw them. | ||
| So 50% tariff, and you better get used to it. | ||
| You get a tariff. | ||
| You get a tariff. | ||
| And you get a tariff. | ||
| But we talk about, you know, tariffs and Trump doing all this. | ||
| We also talk about Taco Trump. | ||
| Trump always chickens out, right? | ||
| We talk about this as an issue. | ||
| Can you go into that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you go back to the actual time periods where, you know, we've got tariffs that we threw on all these different countries. | ||
| So the first tariff, you know, you've got the April 2nd situation where that was the initial one. | ||
| That was the Great American Day. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| American Liberation Day. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We were liberated from all these countries. | ||
| So that was delayed till the 6th. | ||
| Then you had the actual tariff again delayed from the 7th to August 1st. | ||
| You had another tariff that was on August 4th, delayed to August 7th. | ||
| And then you've got another tariff that was delayed from August 11th and plus another 90 days. | ||
| But somehow in this circumstance, we haven't delayed the tariffs on India, but we have delayed the tariffs on China, even though China's importing more and they're more of an adversary. | ||
| You know, it seems that the friendlier you are to us, the worse you get treated. | ||
| And I think maybe an aspect of why all these other countries are joining things like BRICS and the SEO is because they want to get respect in a weird way. | ||
| They're like, okay, we have to do this. | ||
| We're forced to do this. | ||
| You want us to do this, America? | ||
| Because like everything you're doing to us is making us do this. | ||
| So you must want us to do this. | ||
| I mean, why can't we all just get along? | ||
| Why can't America be part of the solution and not be a part of the problem? | ||
| We could fix all this right now. | ||
| And I'm critical of China. | ||
| I don't like their government. | ||
| I don't like what they do to the Uyghurs, but they have the ability to build things like high-speed rail, the ability to, Russia has the ability to process oil in like sub-zero temperatures. | ||
| We don't have these abilities, right? | ||
| We need to work with these countries that can give us this technology. | ||
| But the topic, you know, that big military parade that just showed up in China, we can at the anniversary, the 80-year anniversary of the victory in World War II. | ||
| We look at that as Americans or not as Americans. | ||
| Government looks at it and goes, Well, you know, it was actually America that defeated the Japanese and we did all the things and you should be grateful to us. | ||
| And we go, Well, you know, 70% of the casualties in World War II against Imperial Japan were the Chinese. | ||
| And if you look at it, the reason why we as Americans have to deal with communist China is because we were against the nationalists in China and we helped them lose during World War II. | ||
| We made sure that they were defeated by the Japanese and then the communist Chinese came to power. | ||
| So even back like 80, 100 years, we are the problem. | ||
| Oh, we're the best at regime change. | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We're world class with that. | ||
| The best you've ever seen. | ||
| Change the government. | ||
| It's the worst policy because what could you do to hate make people hate you more than to remove their own sovereignty, right? | ||
| You remove their own sovereignty, you install puppet dictatorships, puppet leaders, and they look at it and they go, this isn't us. | ||
| This isn't our society. | ||
| And this is why we lose wars as well. | ||
| Like, how hard would you fight if your country had been taken over by a foreign power, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just basic math. | ||
| It doesn't matter how many people you're going to lose. | ||
| And we also fail to look at the fact of all the instability that we cause in those regions after we go in there, replace the guy, and that guy sometimes ends up being worse. | ||
| And then we're like, oh, we got to go, we got to go get another guy. | ||
| I mean, look at Syria, right? | ||
| You can say whatever you want about Assad. | ||
| You can agree with him, disagree with him. | ||
| He was a secularist. | ||
| There are like a dozen different little religions that are all a part of Syria, right? | ||
| We have this incident where in like two weeks, the rebel forces, ooh, I wonder who controls them, they take over. | ||
| He flees. | ||
| I believe he's in Russia now, whatever. | ||
| We put in Julani, the old head of ISIS, and he's in charge. | ||
| And this guy just like runs around killing people. | ||
| And then Trump goes and shakes his hand. | ||
| So I've got people that I know will see me on this show and they'll go, man, I don't like you being critical of our president. | ||
| I don't like you being critical of Trump. | ||
| I mean, you're a never Trumper. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| And I'm just like, man, like, do you think it's okay to go shake hands with the terrorists that we appoint in charge of a nation? | ||
| And he's massacring the Christians and the Muslims that don't agree with his particular sect of Islam? | ||
| Like, are we supposed to support that just because he's our buddy in charge of the region? | ||
| No, no, absolutely not. | ||
| We have to be totally against that. | ||
| So you look at Syria as a microcosm. | ||
| You look at these other countries. | ||
| I mean, in Latin America, we've been trying to do this unsuccessfully for decades and decades and decades. | ||
| It's all we do down there. | ||
| And Maduro has raised a civilian army of like 8.2 million people. | ||
| Oh, yeah, we're not stepping foot on it. | ||
| Yeah, we're not going over there. | ||
| But you see, we have to project all this power. | ||
| We can't even honor our own Monroe Doctrine anymore. | ||
| If America was going to be imperialist, and I made this point to a few people over the years, if America was going to be an imperialist country, we would operate in our own hemisphere. | ||
| We would try to control things here, you know, because at least we're close. | ||
| But no, we have to operate thousands and thousands of miles away, and we have to operate in kind of a clandestine and under-the-table way. | ||
| We're manipulating people. | ||
| We're doing regime change. | ||
| We're ultimately run by our intelligence agencies more than anything. | ||
| We rely on our ability to kind of deceive other nations instead of even like projecting force honorably. | ||
| We don't even do that. | ||
| We kind of just kill people and then try to like blackmail them or, you know, like just like try to make them, we make them agree with our worldview when it's very obvious that our worldview is the most dysgenic out of all of them. | ||
| We just took England's playbook and just did it in the modern day. | ||
| They just didn't British Empire. | ||
| They just didn't have X and YouTube and all these other things catching them on camera. | ||
| But I mean, we pretty much took the perfect playbook out of what they were doing this entire time to other countries. | ||
| And you can see how that played out for them. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you look at China, right? | ||
| You look at the opium wars. | ||
| You look at what was done to them over there. | ||
| And then we complain, ah, fentanyl comes over here. | ||
| Well, who created that idea? | ||
| Who came up with that little trick? | ||
| I think that was us. | ||
| I think that was the West. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, that's insane. | ||
| And the one thing I last thing I want to touch upon is we've talked about, you know, India, Russia, China. | ||
| A lot of the stuff that we've done, there's people that got in the crosshairs like Japan. | ||
| I mean, Japan, I don't understand that one. | ||
| Why the Japanese? | ||
| You know, and we've done Japanese, we've done the EU. | ||
| And so we've been touting the fact that, okay, they're going to be making all these investments into the United States. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| They are. | ||
| They're just intentions. | ||
| They're not actual real dollars that are going in. | ||
| But all that matters is the headline. | ||
| That's all we care about. | ||
| That's all we want. | ||
| It's the headline. | ||
| Because it's all about just getting the next election cycle. | ||
| It's not even four years. | ||
| It's two years, really. | ||
| It's three. | ||
| Because every like it's a third of Congress, a third of the Senate. | ||
| I believe that's how it works. | ||
| It cycles out every couple of years, right? | ||
| It's, it's all ADHD goldfish mindset as everything burns. | ||
| And I hope that something we can do with this podcast, just kind of express a general awareness of what's going on with the show. | ||
| You know, just a general awareness of, hey, you know, are we the baddies? | ||
| I think we might be the baddies. | ||
| You know that meme. | ||
| I think we might be the baddies. | ||
| Yeah, might be the baddies. | ||
| But I want to do preface this whole thing. | ||
| Like, we're not anti-America. | ||
| No. | ||
| And I'm not anti-Trump. | ||
| I actually appreciated a lot of people. | ||
| You're more pro-Trump than me. | ||
| Well, yeah, I kind of lean, I'm like center right, you know, like I'm not necessarily completely on one end, one, on the other side. | ||
| I have discernment when it comes to policies. | ||
| I had massive issues. | ||
| If you were to talk to me back in 2024 with what Biden did, you know, I had massive issues with what he was doing. | ||
| But, you know, you call you call it like it is, you know, and if somebody's making bad policy, then they're making bad policy. | ||
| There's no, there's no difference between whether they're left or right, you know? | ||
| Well, I mean, is there any difference between any of our politicians at all? | ||
| And I would say no. | ||
| And I would say in Trump's first term, he was still a politician, but he was less of one. | ||
| He's fully embraced that now. | ||
| He's got, okay, okay, I've got this base, this 30% that's just loyal to me. | ||
| Whatever I say goes. | ||
| And as long as I keep them happy, I have the political capital to, you know, get what I want to do in my administration done and make my friends happy and, you know, make favorable deals for the people that I know. | ||
| But the people that he knows aren't the majority of the American public. | ||
| And I feel like every group that gets in power is funded by their own group of special interests. | ||
| And those special interests get enriched. | ||
| But even that has diminishing returns. | ||
| They're not able to provide the stuff that they were able to provide like a decade ago to their political donors, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it's just, it's a zero-sum game, however you look at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So like we're going to be talking about a lot of different topics moving forward in this show, but like this was one that we really wanted to highlight today. | ||
| I really feel like going forward, there's this, this mess isn't over. | ||
| I mean, we've created such a beast. | ||
| The news cycle is about to be hot this entire year. | ||
| This entire year, I feel like. | ||
| War and economics, I believe we're going to be talking about a lot of that. | ||
| We're going to be talking about a lot of domestic policy as well. | ||
| We're going to be talking about industry, what's going on here at home, which like we're trying to talk about here. | ||
| It's just not too positive right now, man. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And I wish that we could say better things about what's going on. | ||
| But if you look at everything that's happening out there, it's like a fire dumpster. | ||
| You know, we haven't gotten back to a sense of normality after COVID. | ||
| It was just like we just said, let's turn the crazy train and move it all the way up. | ||
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| I'm reminded of this great Tim Dylan bit, and he compares America to a house party, right? | ||
| And there's two groups of people in the House party. | ||
| There's one group of people where we all dance around in a room with no music on. | ||
| And if you say there's no music on, we kill you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there's another group of people just kind of huddled in the corner crying. | ||
| And then we're just waiting for the day to start and for mommy and daddy to come home. | ||
| You know who mommy and daddy are? | ||
| The People's Republic of China and President Xi and Putin. | ||
| And they're going to come back and they're going to straighten things out. | ||
| And Tim Dillon said, when they come, we'll say, mommy, daddy, we love you. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| Please fix our problems. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| And I hate that. | ||
| I hate that that's the reality, but it's the reality. | ||
| It is the reality. | ||
| That's where we are because nothing gets fixed here. | ||
| And the people that we elect to fix the problems, they have no historical knowledge, no form of reference, anything. | ||
| I mean, Trump gets Fox News style briefing reports. | ||
| The president's daily brief used to be compiled like that's Tulsi Gabbard's supposed job, right? | ||
| His DNI. | ||
| She's supposed to give the president his daily briefing. | ||
| But the president has such a bad attention span that you have to give it to him in like Fox News style clips. | ||
| Like this, this is not sustainable. | ||
| This is not the America of even 30 years ago. | ||
| This is the America of today. | ||
| This is the country of the cooked. | ||
| I think there's still time left, though. | ||
| I mean, as much as everything seems so doom and gloom, that's why we have four-year presidencies and we have term limits for everything. | ||
| I think everyone is starting to wake up. | ||
| I mean, thank God to Elon Musk for having X. | ||
| I agree with you now that that pretty much allows people to take the veil from over their eyes and essentially show that like, okay, this is the reality of what's happening in the world. | ||
| And the narrative is no longer being controlled by small interest groups and different people that have their own personal agendas. | ||
| I mean, you've got now we are people like us independents who can give their opinion to people out there. | ||
| We'll definitely get into the history of internet censorship and all that's happened and all that's changed. | ||
| The only positive change that I can see for domestic America is the resurgence of free speech. | ||
| I mean, in 2018, the company I used to work for, my father's company, we were all kicked off social media, all like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all platforms within, you know, two weeks of each other, total radio silence. | ||
| There was a period of time where you can't say anything that's true about COVID. | ||
| You couldn't say that ivermectin was an actual drug that's won the Nobel Prize for how it was used. | ||
| You got to say, oh, no, this is this poison. | ||
| It's evil because CNN says it's true. | ||
| Whereas it's just a 1984 Orwellian scenario that we were in even just half a decade ago. | ||
| And I look at how the landscape has changed with Rumble and X. | ||
| I look at how people are actually able to communicate freely. | ||
| And that does give me hope because we have seen some change there. | ||
| But I would say that's one of the only areas that we've seen real change in. | ||
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| But it's up to us as the newer generation that's coming up to pretty much change the status quo. | ||
| So, I mean, we're just going to keep having those loud voices and make it so that you can't ignore the everyday American. | ||
| We're going to continue to talk about tariffs. | ||
| We're going to continue to talk about Epstein. | ||
| We're not going to just let things go. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're just told to forget. | ||
| You're told that it doesn't matter until maybe they want to stir some emotion up and they come up with the right calculation formula and they dump it down everyone's throat. | ||
| And the issue becomes relevant again for two, three weeks because, ah, it's targeting someone we don't like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, oh, you're supposed to forget about it. | ||
| No, we're not going to do that anymore. | ||
| That's why this show is called The Gray Area. | ||
| We talk about the things in the middle, right? | ||
| Things that they don't want us to consider because they want us to live in a world of extremes. | ||
| Because in a world of extremes, it's easy to be scared. | ||
| But if you live in reality, sure, reality might be terrifying, but at least you know what's going on. | ||
| Oh, and it's also easy when you live in extremes to keep people controlled because then you can control the narrative. | ||
| Then you can actually tell people what they should be listening to, what they should believe. | ||
| And when you talk about the gray areas, then you get to see the perspective on other sides because I always say this one phrase. | ||
| Guys, there are local truths. | ||
| No matter where you are, no matter what religion you practice, no matter where you're in the world, depending on what your situation is, that is your truth. | ||
| That is your belief system. | ||
| And if we can't find a way to create a Venn diagram where we find those commonalities and we overlap everything that's happening out here, then it's going to continue to go like this. | ||
| We have been prideful for far too long in our ignorance as a country. | ||
| We've been, we don't have to know. | ||
| You know, we're the best. | ||
| We don't have to know. | ||
| We don't have to care. | ||
| It's, it's time to start knowing. | ||
| It's time to start caring. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's why on this show, we're going to cover a lot of international topics. | ||
| It's not just going to be about U.S. news. | ||
| It's not just going to be about what's happening in America. | ||
| It's a global show. | ||
| This is why we're doing this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So we want to talk about things in countries that may not get some love from the U.S. news cycle. | ||
| We want to educate people on what's happening out there because that's important. | ||
| It really is important. | ||
| I really agree with that. | ||
| And I'm happy to do this show. | ||
| And I'm happy to be here. | ||
| I'm happy to have someone that actually cares about these global issues, man, because it's all punditry. | ||
| It's all this domestic talk. | ||
| It's all the Cracker Barrel logo and all this and all that. | ||
| That's not what's really affecting people. | ||
| What's really affecting people is the numbers, the economy, the global market. | ||
| 1,000%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you guys can keep along with this journey. | ||
| This is our first episode, but we're going to keep coming out with every single week new topics, new context, everything that we want to talk about and things that you guys want to hear. | ||
| So make sure that you make comments, communicate with us, tell us what you guys want to hear. | ||
| You can find us on Gray Area Talks on X, and then we'll also be on Rumble as well. | ||
| But X is going to be our primary guy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're going to get better at doing this too. | ||
| We're still figuring things out. | ||
| Still figuring out this. | ||
| We've got a really good studio here. | ||
| We've got really good minds. | ||
| We're putting it all together because it's got to be put together. | ||
| Someone's got to say it. | ||
| Someone's got to let the American people know what's going on across the globe. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And we'll be doing live shows. | ||
| We'll be doing a lot of different conversations. | ||
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| QA. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll have guests on here that people want to see. | ||
| And that's a big topic. | ||
| Anyone that sees this, you want to be a guest? | ||
| You got the credentials and the cojones to do it. | ||
| We'd love to have you on. | ||
| We're looking for the best geopolitical guests. | ||
| We're looking for the best economic guests. | ||
| There's tons of people we want to talk to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like I said, I'm the new guy on the block. | ||
| So give me a follow on X, Truism Tim. | ||
| My BIOS has it all. | ||
| And then you've got Rex on X, Rex Jones News with a Z. That's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Rex Jones News with a Z, Gray Area Talks, and then Truism Tim. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you guys will see that on the screen. | ||
| So go ahead, scan the QR code, follow us. | ||
| And if you made it to this point in the broadcast, we really appreciate you being here with us. | ||
| Really appreciate the listeners, the viewers. | ||
| And we want to be there for you. | ||
| We want to be a news resource. | ||
| We want to be easy to listen to. | ||
| We also want to be, you know, maybe challenging to listen to at some times because we're going to bring up topics that no one else is talking about. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm happy where this is going to go. | ||
| I hope you guys continue to tune in for future shows. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Until next time, guys. | ||
| Badass. | ||
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