Charlamagne tha God and hosts dissect Diddy's alleged abuse, debating whether his ego fueled decades of unchecked power or if sexuality served as a smoke screen. They analyze student debt relief's true cost to taxpayers, critique media echo chambers that prioritize lies over truth, and explore nuclear war risks involving AI voice synthesis threats. The conversation concludes by urging listeners to recognize social media addiction and maintain humility against tyrants who thrive on conquest but crumble under exposure. [Automatically generated summary]
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White People Keeping Secrets00:03:57
What do white people do when the question or the thing they're thinking about could be offensive?
Probably keep it to yourself.
There's only a couple of white people that can do that.
Andrew, Joe Rogan, Amy Theo Vaughn, because he gives off autistic.
So like I did a diary of CEO this weekend.
Taito was crazy.
What the f ⁇ ?
A woman male with me as a kid.
I cheated on my soulmate.
Look at that thumbnail though.
That's crazy.
It is wild that I'm not afraid.
I can't be afraid of like somebody putting a d ⁇ in my ass.
Wait, hold on.
I think there are a lot of people that are afraid that they'll catch gas.
Nobody knows for a fact you can't catch.
I do have a friend that I do believe actually caught.
Talk to us.
He did mushrooms.
He started watching trans and then he started hooking up with dudes.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he stopped hooking up with dudes after like six months.
He was like, I'm not gay anymore.
What do you do with trans women, though?
No, no, then he just started hooking up a full dude.
Don't start with that.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
He didn't want no cut on it no more.
He wanted the pure.
He wanted the curious.
Alex found out I'm a civil rights hero.
Let's talk about it.
Nah, we don't have to talk about it on air.
It's just a bracket note.
Off-air, I think, was more, you know, protecting.
No, so you just had to say it right now.
No, off-air.
I don't want to talk.
Are we recording?
I don't want to talk about it on air.
I'm like, off-air, we can talk about I'm a civil rights hero abroad.
It's not a story for me to tell.
I would never share it.
What happened?
Who knows the story?
Alex hit me.
Are we recording?
I don't want to waste this.
Yes, I was.
Okay.
Oh, we're recording.
Oh, we're recording.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
What a coincidence.
Oh, so I'll wait.
I'll tell it after.
Yeah, yeah.
You can tell it after.
If you guys want to know, nah, I was in Columbia this past week.
Which Columbia?
South South.
Excuse me.
Here's the protest.
Okay.
Maryland.
Yeah.
But so I was there, a good friend of mine.
He's from there, but pees back and forth here and there.
He's starting like a concierge business.
And so he was showing us around and it was like, it was amazing.
And then he talked about the time that Schultz went there a couple of years ago and he was like, oh man, Schultz is such a good dude.
I always remember like Schultz was looking to buy his wife a ring or a pearl or something like that.
And he was going into... Emerald, but yeah.
Oh, Emerald, yeah.
He was going into this jewelry store.
And the concierge service also comes with security to, you know, make sure you're good 24-7.
And the security is darker skinned.
They wouldn't let the security guy in the jewelry store.
And Schultz is like, well, you guys just missed out on whatever amount of money he was going to pay for this ring because I'm not going in if he can't go in.
Cheese up, dude.
Cheese up.
That didn't have nothing to do with race.
That has to do with safety.
He was like, I'm not going to do it.
No, no, no, it was safe.
In the store is safe.
When he comes out, the security is still there.
And then I thought, I was like, damn, if he just did that with me in Sweden.
You were acting up, though.
It's never enough.
You were acting up, man.
It's never enough.
You were fighting.
Yeah, exactly.
You're lucky he didn't leave you.
You like that?
You're not next to my grandma.
They should understand that.
They know who else we're going.
You know, if somebody, Zimmerman says the same thing, I just stood my ground.
You got to be careful about that.
That's his point.
When are you missing the whole joke?
That's why I laughed like a fucking idiot.
Oh, I didn't know it was a joke.
I was being honest.
I was being serious.
I thought you were laughing because you was uncomfortable.
Okay, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait.
I just want to clarify.
The reason why I didn't want to offer the store my business is because I had asked the security guard who happened to be black if when we went in to buy the emeralds while I was distracting them if he could steal some and they picked up on it and then I just accused them of being racist which I learned from black crash Remember, you know, when you guys are playing to rob a store and then the white people are like, hey, why are you going to rob?
Laughing Like An Idiot00:13:01
You racist?
What's crazy?
Where's the security guard already hit that place before?
And so they was like, no, not him.
They got a sign on the window.
We fucking got you.
Damn.
So you just assumed they was racist just because of the guy who had darker skin?
I did, bro.
Damn.
Well, not me.
Your boy did.
No, I did.
Yeah, I did.
I thought they weren't letting him in.
I don't believe this story.
Okay.
Why not?
Don't.
Okay.
This actually happened.
Maybe I just didn't want to buy a fucking stupid ring from my wife.
Have you ever thought about that?
And I use their racism to my advantage.
Smart.
Save a lot of money.
That's it.
Oh, that's so smart.
My wife doesn't need an emerald.
Okay.
Because she got a diamond now, which is more expensive.
Talk my shit.
Talk my shit.
Charlotte.
Talk my shit.
Okay.
We got Charlamagne the God in the motherfuckers.
New book out now.
Go cop it.
Get honest or downline why small talk sucks, baby.
My third book, my third literary baby.
You know what's funny is that small talk specifically is something I'm so horrible at.
It's unbelievable.
Because you don't have time for it.
Well, yeah, explain.
We've talked about this before, but you have a good theory about why it is.
I never knew that I didn't like small talk until our discussion, by the way.
Because you like macro conversations.
Okay, like you're the type of person Andrew comes in hot, whether it's in the group chat, whether it's on the podcast, whether it's on the stage.
You want to get right to it.
We don't have time for the pleasantries, the high.
I mean, the highest greetings are cool.
But it's like, then let's get into it.
And then let's get into it.
I feel anxiety when we're not getting into it.
Yes, because we, because you know, like, why are we eating advertisers?
We're hungry.
We want to meet.
You know what I'm saying?
Bring the actual entree to the table.
Let's talk about it.
It's like everybody's just circling each other, waiting to see who's going to say what first.
Who's going to send it off?
I wonder if this is why we got a log, like even so many years ago.
Because I remember like you would walk into a room and you would just drop some shit.
Let's go.
And then people would sometimes react like, oh my God, what's going on?
And I would be relieved because I'd be like, finally, this fake bullshit that we've got going on right here is done.
Somebody said something that we all have to react to.
That's right.
And we either react to by like trying to ignore it.
And then you got to call that person out by being fake.
That's right.
Or that person just opened the floodgates and now we're laying in.
And everybody knows when you're doing it.
Everybody knows when everybody's bullshit.
Do they?
Do they?
Are there people?
I absolutely believe that they know.
But what also this book does, it gives you permission to not even have the big talk if you don't want to.
Okay, so how do you tap out of that?
Just simply say, I don't want to talk about this.
Well, I then, when you do that, I go further.
Yeah, I understand.
When it comes to conversation, no, does not mean no.
Yeah, but that's true, though.
I'm the same way, sadly, right?
But then it's like, yo, you got to respect people's boundaries too.
But also, just tell people, I don't want to talk about this right now.
Because you're like the nicest guy when you walk in a room.
You will walk up to every single person in the room to make them all feel comfortable.
That's right.
And then you'll be like, how much you paying taxes last year?
So all I need is one.
I don't mean to captivate the whole room.
When Charlotte walks in the room, I'm like, please don't be me.
Don't be me.
You'll target somebody.
That's it.
All you need is one.
Because once you get that one person in conversation, everybody's going to be like, what's so funny going on over here?
What's so interesting over there?
The next thing you know, they all start coming on over.
And it's like, yeah, yeah.
Now we've got to have a party.
Okay?
It's like, you ever see someone with autism doing that like rock?
Jewish people?
Yeah, Jewish people.
I feel like, I feel like.
That's so funny.
Because I do have a joke about how Judaism and autism are like their clothes.
Because when Jews pray, they're doing this.
When autistic people are just trying to hold back something, they're doing this for breakfast.
But that's what I feel like is going on in your head, right?
Like in your head, I feel like when you're in that moment where everybody's bullshitting, I feel like you just rock.
That's right.
You're like, okay, who's going to say it?
That's right.
And Diddy.
And by the way, you know who knows that better than anybody?
My wife.
Wait, wait.
My wife would just be like, here you go.
It could be, I could say one thing.
She'd be like, here you go.
Here he go.
But it's like, cause, yo, I don't like it.
Let's just have the conversation.
Let's talk.
What I'm trying to understand is most people.
Okay.
Most people do small talk because they're anxious.
Most people do small talk.
They don't have anything because they're anxious and because they don't really have anything to say.
For sure, for sure.
But I also assume that it's inspired by they just, they don't want to rock the boat.
They want everybody to get along.
They want everything to just be fine in this moment.
They have some anxiety.
But I feel like we don't like small talk because it makes us anxious.
Yes, because I know that y'all actually want to be talking about something bigger, especially us, because we're public figures and people hear us talk about things or they've heard us say something on the radio or heard us say something on the podcast.
They've been waiting, who knows how long, to have this conversation with us.
Now, sometimes, because I'm an asshole, I'll stall you out.
Okay, go.
Meaning, I'll just keep talking about everything else.
Everything else.
Just because I know the joy it's going to bring to you, son.
Just talk about whatever it is.
You edge them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I really love?
When you edge them, edging them, edge them.
And they'd be like, yeah, so what do you think about Diddy?
And yo, you know what else is crazy, yo?
Yo, did you see what's going on outside?
Just because you just keep pushing it off, pushing it off, pushing it off.
We're going to talk about this when I'm ready to talk about it.
Not when you're ready to talk.
Do you remember?
So it was like, it was like the day or two before my wedding.
And this is how I know I've cultivated like a good group of people from like young to old.
It was the day before my wedding, you had that moment with Kamala.
Do you remember that?
The day before.
Yeah, the day before.
This guy was getting drone struck on the way into the wedding.
People weren't even, there was no like, hey, how you doing?
They knew exactly who he was, old and young, walking up.
Hey, I like what you did with Kamala.
It was straight, no small talk.
Yeah, yeah.
Whispering to you, MAGA.
That's when we converted them.
Hell, MAGA.
Like, what?
But no, yes.
But that's, I like that too, because that also, when you walk into a room full of people that you may not know, it makes it easier to just open up conversations.
Let's go.
Because they have something they want to talk to you about.
So once again, there's no small talk.
What do white people do when they don't want to have small talk?
But the question or the thing they're thinking about could be offensive.
What would you suggest to them?
I would say, depends who I would find somebody that you trust or you think you can trust.
But what if they're not there?
White person in the room for you.
Probably keep it to yourself.
So you're saying just do it.
What if they need, what if they're like, you know, why are you guys responsible for that?
If you think it's going to go wrong.
If you think it's going to go wrong, just don't even bring it up.
But you can't.
You start rocking.
You're getting it rocked.
They're white.
They're like a white young man.
What would you do?
Nah, you can't.
You're not.
See, that's the privilege.
What if I went black?
Oh, so you guys just.
There's only a couple of white people that can do that.
Andrew, Joe Rogan, maybe Theo Vaughn because he gives off autistic.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
Just because he gives it off.
Because they'll just laugh.
They'll be like, ah, yeah.
Is that why all these celebrities are pretending they're retarded now?
So they hear what he was saying things?
Do you have an excuse?
Maybe.
I mean, I think you're probably a little, you know, I was in the slow class for real, though.
No.
I was.
No, I mean emotionally retarded.
I don't mean you're one of the smartest people I've ever met, but emotionally, you got a little asperger.
But I failed a standardized test and I was in one of those classes for like a semester.
Really?
Yeah, absolutely.
I was in the state.
I was in the class with the people I used to tease on what I was doing.
Turbation doesn't work just for a summer.
I'm telling you, I failed to stay in class.
And they put me in this class with kids who had other learning disabilities.
Tell me, what did you learn from that?
Like, what?
Leave them motherfuckers alone because they're strong.
Okay?
Listen, I used to tease this one kid so much.
His name, I don't even want to say his name because who knows?
He's gotten stronger now.
He might not even be flow no more.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right.
Well, we used to call him Peter Pan.
Because whenever you went up to him and whispered, Peter Pan is dead, he would lose his shit.
I mean, Peter Pan is goddamn.
Like, he would go crazy.
So we call him Peter Pan.
So we was in chorus class and like we were singing like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
And I changed it to like Rudolph the Red Nosed Rain Dog.
He'd lose his fucking mind.
It's dear, you fucking idiot.
It's dear.
So when I ended up in the class with this kid, right, even though I really felt bad for myself, right?
Because I'm in this class.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on, right?
Because you're not retarded.
No.
You're in a retarded class.
You're brilliant.
Your mom is a teacher.
Yes.
So this kid, they would have these kids at the computer.
We'd be sitting at the desk.
So it's like, my listeners.
Did the retards play with the computers?
Yeah.
Would they just start?
It's like organ trail.
It wasn't plugged in, no word.
By the way, I don't know what they were doing on the computer.
That's when they used to be on the computers.
And so I'm sitting behind him and he's typing and I'm just whispering to him, going crazy.
And he's losing his mind, but I'm acting like I'm not doing nothing, right?
So I'm just looking around, like, yo, what's up?
And the teacher's like, what's wrong?
Like, he's talking to the kid.
What's wrong?
What's wrong?
And he goes, it's Larry McKelvey, the big-nosed idiot.
Like, holy shit.
Wait, what race is this guy to call you a big idiot?
Yeah, that'd be a little bit.
But for him, he might be too retarded to be a kid.
I didn't even know he knew my name.
Right.
So not only did he say my full name, he hit me with a joke that everybody used to hit me with in school.
No racism.
I was bulky nose.
Yeah, but no racism that was supposed to be.
You're right.
You're right.
Right?
If he was like a racist person, that's the moment where you're at your boiling point and you drop the word.
You're right.
But he just called you a big nose.
Big nose idiot.
He's a pure kind soul.
You bullied a pure kind soul.
How dare you?
Big-nosed nigga would have hit though.
Now I'm saying racist retarded is crazy, but that would have hit crazy in that moment.
That would have hit kind of crazy, though.
Can you accuse a retarded person of racism?
No.
Nah, you can't, right?
No, but you can try.
But no, but that's not going to stick.
It's not going to stick.
They have more struggle than you, so they're fine.
They have immunity.
You think so?
Most things.
Yeah.
I mean, wow, if you got called the N-word by a retarded person.
You deserved it.
You kind of deserved it.
Like, what the fuck were you doing?
By the way, everything I did to those kids back then, all of the jokes, everything I got, I deserved it.
Really?
What did you get?
The success?
Choice dollars.
Everything I've gotten in my life.
I'm talking about carbon for bullying retarded people.
Houses all around the world.
Vacations in Phillips.
He got powerful.
I deserved all this success.
He's like a vampire.
I'm talking about back then.
I remember when I was writing for your show on MTV2, you told a story that stuck with me for years where there was a kid, you guys were like doing some real thug type shit, and this kid was not, but he's trying to fit in with you all.
Said he had a gun.
You had him bring the gun to school, then reported him to the cops, and then watched him get arrested and ruined his life.
That started off our fish.
I don't know if I ruined his life.
I don't know if I ruined his life.
You can't be bringing guns to school.
I feel like I did my favorite dude.
You can't be bringing guns to school.
You shouldn't have been bringing guns to school.
You might have saved a life.
Exactly.
No, you stopped the school shooting.
Exactly.
Why has this kid got a gun?
Why do you have a gun in school, bro?
Thank you.
That's good.
Okay.
Why would you show me this on the way to school?
A retarded kid with a gun.
I didn't even know the line.
Why would you have a gun?
I would die.
Yeah, nothing.
Okay, okay.
Can they put you back in the regular class?
Was there an acknowledgement from the teachers?
Were they ever like, yo, that was our bad, yo?
You're not as retarded as we can.
No, I failed the standardized test.
I never got on track in high school ever.
What do you mean?
Like, I never got on track.
Like, I failed seventh and ten.
You were slow in more ways than that.
I failed seventh and eighth grade, had to go to summer school.
Ninth grade, I failed.
My dad was like, fuck that, made me stay back.
So I never got on track.
I graduated in night school.
Really?
Yeah, so ninth and tenth grade.
Ninth and tenth grade was the farthest I got in high school.
Holy shit.
So you got like a job.
And I got kicked out of one school.
I got kicked out of Berkeley High School.
And then I was in Stratford High School.
And I got arrested from Stratford and did 45 days in jail.
At what age?
Ooh, I don't know, 16, 17?
Did you see that kid that you reported for bringing the gun into school?
No.
Did you guys cross that?
I don't know which guy you're talking about.
Because it was more than one.
All right.
Guns, weed.
You got like $100 for a gun, maybe a buck $15, and you got like $50.
They take him doing it for no reason.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
You think I was doing it for no fucking reason?
High School Arrests And Jail00:15:44
That's crazy.
I just trapped me.
What do you mean?
But you can't convince them to come to school with the guns.
No, I didn't convince them.
It was just a reward.
They used to reward you.
They used to say, hey.
They're collecting the money, wash from the roof, and he got arrested.
If you see something, say something.
Hey, he got weed on him.
I felt like you looking at me saying that was a little racist.
See somebody say something, make a direct eye contact for the first time in the whole podcast.
What's that about?
No, it was just a thing.
Like, I did my civic duty.
And it was for all the wrong reasons.
It was for all the wrong reasons because I was only doing it for the money.
But who knows how many lives I'm in?
You might have said a lot.
Who knows how many lives I'm in?
Yo, even turning people in for weed.
Weed is a gateway drug.
Okay.
What if those people would have thought of smoking weed in high school then went on the stronger things?
That's true.
Gateway to live, bro.
Yeah.
Gateway to what?
The prison industrial complex?
Crack.
This is amazing.
COVID, you sold?
I know.
You worry about the little things.
You're worried about micro shit.
We're supposed to be talking about macros.
Let's talk about macro.
No more small talk.
No more small talk, bro.
Exactly.
Do you ever look back?
Do you ever look back at the shit?
Are you shaming about yourself?
Remember when you do the runs in the beginning saying who you are?
Oh, my God.
Do you ever look back at those things and be like, I should have small talked?
Yo, I was having a panic attack this weekend, bro.
Because just like putting out a book.
I don't know how it feels like when y'all do y'all comedy, right?
But when you put something out to the world and you know everybody is going through it in that moment with a fine-tuned cup.
Like I was sitting at home like, yo, it's mad people reading this book right now.
Yo, should I have said, shared this?
Should I have shared this?
And then, you know, I did mad book signings last week.
So people were coming with both my books.
And I'm like, all three of my books.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
And kind of with a book, the thing that gets the most publicity is the most vulnerable personal.
That's what the media is going to pass around.
Charlemagne in his new book said X, Y, S. Absolutely.
And we live in the era where people take everything.
I don't want to say out of context, but they just put things through their lens and their filter.
Basically, they put things through the lens of what they know is going to get their website the most clicks.
Yes.
The most engaged.
Right?
So, like, I did diary of a CEO.
The CEO this week was Tito was crazy.
What the fuck?
You saw that?
What do you say?
I was like, wait, Moskins need to be able to get it.
I'm sorry for myself.
I was like, y'all been telling this story for years.
I ain't never signed this shit where I felt so bad because I told you to go there.
Just listen.
I was like, look at that.
They said a woman molested me as a kid.
I cheated on my soulmate.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Who's clicking that?
Bro, I don't know.
That makes it seem like your soulmate is the person that molested you.
It's really crazy when he goes back to that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's really crazy.
This shit, bro.
A woman moles me as good an exclamation point.
That's why there's excitement around that.
A woman molest me is a gay girl.
Say how you say it.
This shit is an hour and a half long.
You've heard me tell this story a million times.
I've written about it in my books.
Look at the thumbnail, though.
That's crazy.
That shit.
Bro, I said that shit.
Has your wife seen that thumbnail?
I don't think so.
I hope not.
That shit was crazy.
I felt so bad because I told him to go to that show too.
But is that story even in this book?
That was from old books.
Oh, I mean, no, no, no, no.
I do.
Because I talk about in this book, I talk about my father telling me about how when I confronted him about cheating on my mom, and he was like, You only got one girlfriend?
Yeah.
So that, that, that, yo, can I just say that's an all-time response?
Yeah.
Charlamagne goes to his dad and confronts him for cheating on his mom.
And his dad looks back at Charlamagne and goes, What are you, gay?
You only got one.
Yeah, you only got stuck.
Nah, nah, this did this in 90s.
He's acting like the Pope.
Oh, my God.
Did you see that?
That's true.
Yo, yo, Mark hits me up last night late.
He goes, Catholicism is back.
The boys are back, bro.
But that's how you get away.
That's why Catholicism for me?
What is that?
Catholic.
Christians.
Oh, okay, okay.
I feel like I got one of those.
Yeah.
What is it?
Like, all you're back.
Because they used to use gay flurs?
Basically, I mean, Catholicism was like running the world for a long time.
They kind of lost influence.
Oh, yeah, but also this spoke out soft.
He got really.
The Pope got soft.
But here's the thing.
I know that you don't want Catholics to be homophobic or whatever.
At the same time, if they all were homophobic, they would stop molesting the boys.
So, in a way, Catholic homophobia makes it safer for altar boys.
That's true.
Chew on that.
Maybe that's why he's doing it.
Chew on that.
That's what they told the altar boys.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh.
I think homophobia within Catholicism is the best possible thing right now for the safety of young boys.
It's essential.
It should be mandatory.
For the safety of young boys.
I care about the safety of young boys.
Most people that are like closeted act like that towards gay people anyway.
Yeah, but most people that are closeted act homophobic.
Yeah.
Because they're just ashamed about being.
Yeah, but you could also just be homophobic, can't you?
You know what I mean?
Sometimes that's just a lot of people.
I don't know any real homophobic people, yo.
I am.
I am.
I don't know real one.
Like, I know people who get accused of being homophobic.
I don't know people that are like, I hate gay people.
Yeah.
I don't like the lifestyle.
What about because even the religious folks masking under the guys of religion?
I don't.
No, no, no.
I don't.
Even the religious people masking under the guys of religion.
Did you just like stop hanging out with all your black friends or really what happened?
We've never been homophobic.
We just like to.
They use the F-word for people that aren't gay.
I actually think it is homophobia in the terms of like the fear of it.
Like, I think, I think.
That's fair.
I think there are a lot of people that are afraid that they'll catch gay.
I grew up in the South.
That's a thing.
There's this guy that I watch.
He is on TikTok, right?
He's a Spanish dude.
Okay.
I don't know.
He's Puerto Rican or whatever.
He's on Instagram.
I don't know what I wish I had his name a shout out.
This is nonsense.
This is he does one game.
He's in a mall and he goes, he goes, he goes, Do you speak English or Spanish?
And then the person that he stops or the people he stops go English, for example.
He goes, the first person that moves is gay.
And then they just sit there for a minute on TikTok.
Every time it's black people.
Every time.
He goes up to you.
He goes, Do you speak English or Spanish?
They go, English.
And he goes, The first person that moves is gay.
And the black people just go.
No, I had a dude.
I remember I was 25 and he had a gay roommate, or I was 24 and he was 25 or something like that.
And he was like, no, I'm not tripping off that shit no more.
Once I found out you couldn't catch that shit, I said it's no big deal.
I was like, dog, you are in your mid-20s.
What the fuck is happening?
Well, why are you talking about it?
By the way, why don't people act like as a man?
Why do we know we can't catch it?
I think that's more important.
I don't know if it's nobody knows for a fact you can't catch.
I don't think it's contagious, right?
I'm not saying it's contagious, but like.
I do have a friend that I do believe actually caught it.
Talk to us.
He did.
He did mushrooms.
And he was watching porn on the internet.
Yep.
And he started watching trans porn.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he started hooking up with dudes.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he stopped hooking up with dudes after like six months.
He was like, I'm not gay anymore.
Can I?
Can I?
No, no, no.
Your friend is gay.
Yeah, you don't.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
What do you do with trans women, though?
No, no, no.
Then he started hooking up a full dude.
Oh, don't start with that.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
He didn't want no cut on it no more.
You wanted the pure.
You wanted that pure G. Yo.
Put the baking soda in the coat.
Respect it.
Just cut.
That's the cut.
No, baby.
Go get the pure D. Word up.
I ain't mad at it.
No, but this is why I think you can't catch gay.
And I'll be honest with you.
I have a friend who is married to an identical twin.
Okay.
You guys have all met her.
Her husband has an identical twin.
That means their genetic makeup is identical.
So there's a man out there that looks just like her.
No, no, no, no.
She's married.
Her husband has an identical twin.
Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you.
And her husband is obviously straight.
They have children, straight.
Oh, her husband's brother is an identical twin, all the same genetic material.
100% genetic match.
Is gay.
Okay.
So he caught it.
He has to have caught it.
Caught what?
Gay.
A good time?
Because that's all it was.
You caught a good time.
You were attracted to somebody.
But you slept with him in your life.
You see what he's saying?
He's saying if one person is gay and one person is straight and they are 100% genetic match down to every fucking elite.
It's not the genetic maximum.
Then that person may not.
It's the vaccine.
Oh, they're both gay.
There's got to be scientific studies about it.
There are scientific studies.
You could catch it.
There's got to be scientific studies about what you're attracted to and why, right?
No.
It's not.
Really?
It's got to be.
There's got to be.
There's got to be.
There's got to be scientific studies.
Why would anybody do that?
That shit is gay, bro.
You're going to be studying gay all day.
That's funny.
It is crazy that we just want to do that.
It is wild that I'm not afraid.
I can't be afraid of somebody putting a dick in my ass.
Wait, hold on.
That would be a good idea.
Why wouldn't I?
I see what he's saying.
You know what I'm saying?
Because then homophobia is not the craziest thing.
You're talking about the pain of it.
Yeah, the pain.
Lil Kim, Lil Kim's, I used to be scared of the dick.
Now I throw lips to this shit.
There had to be a point in Bottom's life where a bottom was like, I was scared of that dick, even though I was attracted to it.
But then when they started taking that shit, they weren't afraid no more.
So there has to be an initial fear.
So was that bottom homophobic?
He was initially?
Probably.
Initially, yeah.
Yeah, homophobia is probably the wrong term.
That's the first thing.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know people who hate gay people.
If you can't catch it, I think that's the right term, though.
If we do determine that you can catch gay, meaning that there are environmental factors that could affect you and you become gay.
I don't know what's going on.
Have you ever heard the fingertips?
If two of your fingers are in a guy's ass, you're gay.
Just do it.
Apparently, this is the thing.
Have you seen this?
Yeah, I've been taking a hammer to my pointer finger ever since I saw that shit.
What the fuck?
Am I waiting this shit?
I want people out there that's watching this.
I know that there's people who hate gay people.
I just don't know any, is what I'm saying.
Look how straight my hand is.
Yes, wait, wait, hold on.
Yo, the funniest thing.
Yo, can I say the funniest thing about this test is it forces you to be like this?
What is that when you wipe?
No.
This?
If you're pointing.
You don't put an extra finger on your body.
Why are you just giving yourself prostate tests, bro?
If your pointer finger is longer than your ring finger, you're gay.
Oh, shit.
I'm sitting there thinking, you're straight, bro.
Okay, hold on.
You're good.
You're straight.
Nah, nah, nah.
That's not accurate.
Whoa, Al, you say you're straight up.
I'm nothing else.
Alex.
Nails our fingers.
Alex.
Hold on, what the fuck?
There's nothing scientific.
Yo, Alex.
So hold on, what is it now?
If your ring finger is longer than your index finger, you're straight.
No, he's straight.
I barely made it, and that checks out.
No, look.
If the ring finger is longer, you're gay.
Nah.
My ring finger ain't longer.
No.
This might be longer.
My ring finger is not longer.
This might be for women.
This might be long.
Oh, wait, if this is backwards, then we good.
Yeah, this is for women.
This is backwards for men.
Yeah, y'all got a little scared.
I wasn't scared.
Why are you so defensive?
I wasn't scared.
I knew because I tailed it.
I've been doing these things.
He's a little gay, bro.
Yo, Charlotte, stop.
Stop.
Cut it out.
Everybody.
This is the gayest thing you ever did.
Wipe my ass.
No, no, drink water.
Why does him drink water?
Listen, yo, he drinks water from the back.
Bro, I saw, brother, you spin the water before he drank it.
I've had these conversations on idiots before.
Masturbation is gay.
You're sitting at home jacking up, looking in the mirror.
The mirror is crazy.
Whole wrinkle.
I never looked in the mirror.
That's gay.
No, you know what?
That's gay.
You looked in the mirror.
You looked down at yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
You shot it up in the air, trying to catch it.
Wait, You never caught it in your bed like that, Nike commercial?
No.
You're a different type of person.
Some shit like that.
Okay, watch.
Wiping your ass?
Why is that gay?
It is.
How do you wipe it?
It's a man's hand in your ass.
But that's a necessary shit.
How deep are you going?
I got going in the hole.
Why not?
That's weird.
You got to get it out there.
Are you going back to front?
Because you're definitely.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
You go.
You go, you bent over.
Why did you sniff?
This guy's a rotten reaction.
I just got to make sure, dog.
I just got to make sure I'm not.
I think everybody got about this much gay in them.
What does that mean?
Tell me what that means.
What, this much gay?
Yeah.
It's that Keynesi scale shit.
The Kinsey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually think that people who protest too much are like, uh, something happened to you, bro.
You know what else in general?
Yeah, like, why are you so like, why do you have to prove that you scrape so bad?
You know what I'm saying?
Some people would say because being gay is gross.
I didn't say that.
Who would say that?
Some people.
Who would say that?
Hey, I hate Charlie.
Charlie.
Hey, Charlie, man.
Get honest or die lying.
Get honest or die lying on your stomach.
Okay.
All right.
That's not going to happen, bro.
But this is what this is about.
It's okay to be who you are.
Be who you are.
Especially, it's fun to be who you are in 2024, unless you're homophobic.
And then you have to fake it.
That's true.
But if it who don't think people are faking it no more, you think they're out there in the open with it.
Clearly, but you none of them know what the Pope is just out here throwing the F word around like he said.
In Italian, it was different.
He said Italian.
Dude, the Italian word for it is fragile.
No, it's not like that.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
I think it's frago sini.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What is it?
It's frochie john, frochi john eh?
Froci means gay.
Gay.
I thought frochi was a drink.
Don't they serve frochies at Starbucks?
Frochi john.
What is the frochie?
That's how you say it in like a derogatory way.
So I'm not tripping, right?
Yeah, frochie was great drink.
Yeah, frochijohn, man.
Hold up.
So Starbucks is homophobic.
We know that.
We know that.
What?
We know that.
We've known that about Starbucks.
So hold up.
Starbucks is out here serving drinks that are Italian gay slurs.
Yeah.
And nobody says anything.
You never had a double vent a with extra crease and a long straw.
That is gay.
If you choose a long straw for a short drink, you get.
Let's just call that out right now.
If you choose the long because it's even wider for a small drink at Starbucks, you are sexual.
That's facts.
That is a fact.
That is write a law about that.
Shout out to the LGBTQ community, man.
What are you about to show me, Mark?
This shit froze.
Go, go, go.
This shit froze really quick.
Hang on.
Look at you.
Yeah, y'all bricked up.
Yeah.
I'm about to get my Venti Frag Vegeta right now.
Okay.
So, Charlamagne, Hollis had to leave the room.
He got so long.
He got my fingers longer.
I need to try this one.
Trump Endorsements Explained00:05:54
All right.
So, Charlamagne, how is the media going to use everything that you've said to benefit whatever platform they're on?
Well, it's been interesting.
Is that stressful knowing that, like...
Have you guys seen this?
I should like push context.
So obviously I'm pretty sure.
But like Charlemagne will be used by every side of the media to prove whatever their agenda is.
So is there a new stress that comes with that now?
No, you know, here's the thing.
The right does a phenomenal job of pushing their narratives.
Okay.
Whatever their narrative is, you know, like for the past few months, it's been, you know, black people are moving away from Democrats.
Donald Trump has like what, 22% of black people say right now they'll vote for Donald Trump.
I think that's a little overstated.
But anything that pushes that narrative, they're for it.
So, and it's been like this probably for the past eight, nine months.
So if I'm critical of the Democratic Party, they lock in.
Regardless of anything else I say about Trump, whatever, they lock in on that.
Do you think Fox has assigned a person to your media?
Meaning it's just it's an intern and it's their job to find a quote.
That's a good question.
It's so targeted.
I'm a brilliant Idiots fan, probably.
Yo, low-key, I wonder.
That's a good question.
I think so, because it happens same day.
It's the era we live in, too, though.
But here's the thing.
What's so interesting about that?
I don't think Fox does a checking breakfast club all day.
I think so.
Really?
I mean, it depends who's on.
You got to think, it's not like this out of the ordinary, right?
It's like when we have political guests on, right?
And we do do a segment every morning called Front Page News.
So you kind of just got to tune into that and hear what the political takes are for the most part.
But I think what's interesting is the left never finds a way to create its own narratives.
The left just responds to whatever the right puts out there.
And then calls them racist or sexist.
Yes.
Or calls me a MAGA supporter or whatever.
So I could literally say in the same sentence, this happened on John Carl's show.
I can say Donald Trump is a threat to democracy.
You know, he wanted to suspend the Constitution all the results of an election, but Joe Biden's an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy.
Fox don't give a fuck about that first part.
That second part.
Give me that.
This is what I want.
I want the uninspiring candidate manga energy.
And so everybody on the left replies to that as if I didn't just say this other stuff about Trump.
It's the strangest thing in the world.
But what I'm realizing is, especially after the, I knew this already, but this week showed me a lot because of all the different type of press.
Like I did the view.
I did like CBS this morning with Dale thing.
That clip was crazy, dog.
That view clip, you handled it incredibly well.
But I don't know what they wanted me to say.
Can you give context to the clip for everybody?
Well, yes, I said that I'm not endorsing anybody for president this year.
And, you know, Sonny from the View basically was like, it was irresponsible of me to do that.
And she said, this isn't the time to sit this out.
This ain't the election to sit out.
I never said I was sitting out.
Never once have I said I'm sitting out.
Never once have I said I'm not voting.
None of these things have happened.
All I'm simply doing is being critical of both parties.
And my interest this year is, one of my interests is preserving democracy.
So I'm going to vote for whoever I think can preserve democracy.
The Democratic candidates are so weak that their only hope is vote against all they have.
But I've told other personalities in media that y'all spend so much time talking about how bad Trump is.
You never tell me anything that Biden is doing.
And then you wonder why people say, well, what the hell is Joe Biden doing?
What the hell is Vice President Harris doing?
Very true.
I can't find out from the people who support them because your whole feed is how bad Trump is.
But to what Akash is saying, I think their whole angle is vote for not him.
And if your angle is vote for not him, you just got to make him as bad as possible.
Make him continue radioactive.
Biden is uninspiring, so I can't inspire you to vote for him in my brain.
Democrats don't believe in Biden.
You know what the truth is?
It's not even about none of that.
These motherfuckers care about ratings.
They care about clicks.
They care about engagement.
And the reality is Donald Trump moves the needle.
You know what I'm saying?
And not only does Donald Trump move the needle, people who are supposedly left-leaning, criticizing Democrats moves the needle.
You know why?
Because it gets motherfuckers going on social media.
So if I saw the whole context of what Charlemagne said, fuck the whole context of what he said.
Let's just take this part of him saying Joe Biden's uninspiring.
And then let's retweet it.
And somebody's going to say, this is the type of rhetoric that's going to get Donald Trump elected.
And so then it turns into Charlemagne don't know what the fuck you talking about politics to Charlemagne made little Mama cry.
To Charlemagne, homophobic Charlemagne, transphobic Charlemagne was sad.
That was just this whole thing about me in a lot of ways.
But it all goes right back to that one original clip that's now probably got a hundred thousand, so you a million plus views.
They make it look like you're supporting the other side.
That's right.
And then, when it looks like you're supporting the other side, they have to make you radio actors.
They got to attack your character that's right to basically cut your legs out from under you so you don't inspire and influence people to support the other side, when in reality, if they just played the whole clip, everything would have been explained.
Everything would have been explained and it probably would have been a better discussion.
Yeah well, they don't want good discussions.
They just don't have to chambers, they don't.
The one thing I don't understand is, um, the rock also said he's not endorsing anybody.
Um uh, Taylor Swift also said she's not endorsing anybody, but that I feel no one was outraged about, because they need the black vote and Charlemagne is influential within the black community.
So the rock ain't black to America.
But if the Rock dropped the n-word, we'd be like, hold on, hold on.
You know, you'd have to remind us to be like, oh, he's his dad is black, and be like oh, it's my mother.
This guy had a whole rap song.
Didn't say the n-word.
Debt Wiped Away By Government00:07:38
He knows people's drawers.
I feel like Drake's more black than the Rock, like the people.
Look at people.
Yeah, not right.
Nothing, give him a minute he'll get it.
Not right now, not Right.
Not at this current moment.
Yeah, not at this current moment.
But it is interesting because even when I, like, I did Fox News.
I did Brian Killmead show on Fox.
I did, I'm doing Gutfeld.
Well, we're taping us through this.
I'm doing Gutfeld, you know, tonight.
And the thing I've realized about them, they're not trying to push a narrative because they already know what their narrative is going to be.
I want the left to learn from the right and start just pushing the narrative that you want out there.
That's the only way.
What would it be if you were a Democratic strategist?
What would you push out there that are the good things they're doing?
For President Biden right now, I would be talking about the student loan debt a lot because those are the things that impact everyday people.
Like those are the things that people can point to.
I know people who've gotten their student loan debt wiped away.
Like I know people personally who have gone to their accounts $20,000.
What does that mean wiped away?
I don't understand what that means.
He's gone to pay it back.
You don't have to pay it back.
If it doesn't hell.
But does the bank pay the L or do taxpayers pay back the cost?
I don't know.
Because I'm trying to understand like...
That's true.
What I assume it is, is it's not wiped away.
What I assume it is, is that burden is now displaced across 300 million Americans.
Miles, it seems like you have the answer.
A lot of Biden's things are helping people.
Miles, hold on now.
Are you answering the question that we're talking about right now or something?
That's getting wiped away.
Yeah, yeah.
Is Biden helping people sign up for programs that would help that were like government-sponsored programs that they didn't know they could get on, that they worked in like a public sector for two years and then their debt gets wiped away.
But what the question is, what happens?
Who's paying for it is what he's saying.
Somebody has to pay, take care of it.
My assumption is that the American taxpayer shares that burden because there's no way the banks are just going to go, well, we'll just not take those few hundred million dollars.
But like, so let's say, for example, Teach for America, get debt gets wiped away.
I guess that's the government being like, what you do is noble enough in our eyes that we can pay off this.
We'll take care of this debt for you.
Yes.
And that's coming out of government coffers and when we talk about the government pays for something, they don't have money.
That's our money.
So we pay for it.
Sometimes, but sometimes they can reallocate money from a different program.
But our money.
No, but saying program's not.
Oh, yeah.
Still taxpayer money.
I guess what I'm trying to say is like, we look at it like the debt is wiped away.
It's not wiped away.
It's just put on taxpayers.
Just add it to the deficit and we pay list.
Yeah, that's also true.
And it's redistributed from money that's already there to an ineffectual program.
Then that's a positive thing.
Dude, they got rid of the non-compete clause.
I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm just saying let's say what is happening.
It's not like the banks are taking the L.
I think that you'd have unanimous support if we all found out the banks were taking the L.
Oh, Wells Fargo is going to have to eat that half a billion dollars.
Hell yeah, run it up.
It ain't that.
Charlie, the God, Mark, Alex Media, Akash, Dove, Miles Shifty, Andrew is also going to have to pay taxes.
But couldn't you do that with everything?
If a politician was like, I'm going to cut taxes, he could also be like, hey, I'm going to stop giving as much money to poor people.
You're just not going to do that.
I'm going to make sure some programs get cut.
Kids are not going to get breakfast.
Does that make sense to me?
So basically, you're just framing it in a different way, right?
But you can do that with anything.
If a politician gets up there and says, hey, I'm going to cut taxes, what he's also saying is there's a lot of fun government programs that are not going to get funded.
Some underprivileged kids might not go to school because I'm cutting taxes.
So y'all save money, but there's less to go to them.
You can do that with anything.
What I would, the difference I would say is that we don't know if there's an increase in taxes to accommodate that burden.
So that would be the difference between what you just said.
Or cut spending.
Exactly.
It's not cutting taxes.
It's cutting spending or just adding to the debt.
Which they're never really doing.
They're never going to cut spending.
They're never really cutting spending.
That shit sounds good to say.
They don't cut spending, bro.
They just keep printing more.
They really don't.
Yeah.
They don't cut spending.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess I don't know.
And I wonder what happens for people who they just finished paying off their student debt.
And now they're like, holy shit, if I waited, you know, 10 years, then it would have done.
You know what I mean?
I like seeing everyday working class people get that kind of relief.
Yeah.
Like you can't look forward to that, right?
And that's one of the things that people can point to the same way when everybody talks about, you know, Trump, when they bring up the stimulus checks and the PPP loans and all of that stuff like that.
Those are things that they can point to where they were provided relief.
Motherfuckers will never forget when you provided them relief.
And think about when they got that relief during the worst time that we probably experienced in American history.
Now, granted, they got the relief because of that worst time, because of that pandemic, but they don't give a fuck.
If you were three, four months behind on bills and all of a sudden you got a check in the mail, you'll never forget who gave you that.
100%.
So that's what all presidents are trying to buy the election.
What's wrong with that?
No, no, no.
Andrew Yang tried to.
Universal basic income.
You shit.
That's all.
What do we care about in this country?
We want money, guns, upward mobility and security.
That's all we ever want.
We want money and to feel secure.
There's a certain level of security that money gives you.
There's a certain level of security that being able to have your gun gives you.
That's what we want.
Money and security.
Anything that takes away from people's money and security, you won't lose.
God damn, that was good.
Yeah.
That was fucking good.
It's just the truth.
Yeah, yeah.
I was actually thinking other good things he did, the breaking up non-compete clauses, which have been an unfair thing for workers to do that.
That's money, though.
That's another thing they could push that Biden did.
He's trying to break up monopolies like Ticketmaster Live Nation right now.
They're trying to go after.
I don't know how I feel about that, though.
Okay, explain.
Cause I don't know much, but.
Yeah, I don't know much either.
But just looking the way they, even when they're trying to, even when they go after like the social media platforms and stuff like that, it's like America has been a country that has pushed free enterprise forever, right?
You push capitalism forever.
So when you got all of these people who took advantage of a free market enterprise to build these entities, now that they're too big and too powerful and making too much money, you want to break them up?
There's a point at which they can kill the competition because they're just so big, big bank, take little bank.
That kills capitalism.
That kills entrepreneurship.
That kills competition.
No, just don't get into the ticket business.
Don't come over here.
Live nation and ticket master shit.
There's enough of those.
The argument is that it kills free enterprise.
And then when there is a monopoly, it really punishes a consumer.
So when there's only one place where you can buy tickets, they can start putting all these hidden fees and extra fees.
And now the person buying the tickets is fucked.
Whereas if you have three or four ticketing companies, now those fees got to stay low, which benefits the consumer.
And it benefits theoretically the artist too, because we want our consumers.
Like I see it sometimes.
And listen, I'm with Live Nation, right?
Which is owned by Ticketmaster.
Like the tour, you know, some of our dates are promoted by Live Nation.
But I see some of these fees and I'm like, hold the fuck on.
Like $30 fee on top of a ticket?
Like, one, I'd rather the people buying get to keep that money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
And they own the venue, so he has no option on where to perform.
They control every aspect of that.
That's not true.
But because there are plenty of venues that you could perform, but there are ones that might be owned by Live Nation.
They also promote gigs and ones that aren't owned by Live Nation.
Kanye would like to know.
He'd like for you to make a list so he can find those other venues.
He can't get into the show.
The Live Nation wants that.
What's up?
You think it's over for Kanye?
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Now, let's get back to the show.
What's up?
You think it's over for Kanye?
Over in what sense?
Just like it seems the interest has started to wane.
Like, he inserted himself in the beef, and no one cared.
Well, that's because nobody cares about Kanye rapping.
Ooh, going up.
So if Kanye would have done this 10 years ago, it's like, oh, shit, Kanye inserted himself in the beef.
Nobody gives a fuck about Kanye rapping in 2024.
It's like walking around with your girl with a huge tits.
Especially when the guy, especially when the guys that are rapping are the rappers that we actually want to hear from.
Pretend to be a Christian while you promote a porn website.
The idea that he's like masquerading as this Christian with a fake wife, right?
You're not even really married to her.
You're starting a porn company.
Where is this?
They're not really married.
Not in the eyes of God, right?
Do you know what I'm saying?
And also, like, starting a porn company?
Like, what is like, what the fuck is going on?
Where is this Christianity?
Everybody jumps to Christianity or jumps to religion when they need a fucking boot.
You saw even Diddy when he came out in apology.
The first thing, I had to turn to God.
I had to forgive.
Where was God when you was beating that girl up?
I think the problem with humans.
And butt fucking guys a lot.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Also watching guys.
Yeah.
Videotaming guys butt fucking.
That's crazy.
What's higher?
That's not even in the alphabet, bro.
Like it's LGBTQ.
It ain't no fucking bar doing that.
Video lives.
For rape.
No, no.
That's the GBF.
Like, that's not in there, bro.
No, no, no, no.
That's gayer.
That's gayer.
That's not in there.
I don't remember what the fuck was we talking about before.
People using God.
People using God when they get in trouble.
Yes.
I think that the problem with people like, and that's not even a problem.
Kanye is one of those people when he's in, he's all in, which is what makes him great, right?
Because when he focuses on one thing, he's going to focus on that one thing.
And that's how you get a my beautiful dog twisted fantasy.
That's how you get a college dropout.
That's how you get a late registration.
That's how you get these amazing sneakers, whatever it is, when he focuses on that one thing.
So it's like, if for that moment he's into God, he's going to be the biggest Christian in the world.
If he's in the anti-Semitism, he's going to be the biggest anti-Semite that ever existed.
Like literally, that's who he is as a person.
So it's just like, and that's, that's a hard thing to do to be the biggest anti-Semite.
My God.
I mean, my God.
There's a Jordan number out there.
By the way, so big that he was calling out the biggest.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, getting the torch passed to him.
Yeah, shit.
When you surpass everybody in your only competition you see is Hitler.
Damn.
Whoa.
That's wow.
That's wild.
But he's the type of person that whatever he's on, he's on.
And I mean, it's a gift and a curse for somebody like him.
Because it's the same reason we got all those amazing things that I've mentioned.
But it's the same reason we get all the fuck shit.
Do you think that people do that, though?
Like, do you see this a lot?
Like, when people need forgiveness, when they need the public to change their tune, lean into their relationship with God, I think that's a natural thing.
You think it's real?
You don't think it's manipulative?
No, I do think it's no, I think it's real.
I think you get to those points.
No, no, no, I do.
I think you get to.
But then how do you explain God and porn website?
Being a complex person.
Being a human.
But wait, hold on.
Answer the question though.
About, do you think it's manipulative?
No, I don't think it's manipulative because I think in those moments they really do be needing God.
Interesting.
I really feel that way.
I really feel like you get to a point where you might hit a wall or you might hit rock bottom or you feel like the walls are tumbling down.
The sky is falling.
All you have left is to turn to your creator.
At some point, you're going to get down on your knees.
And I ain't talking about being assigned a bad boy.
I'm talking about at some fucking point, you're going to have to bow down to your creator.
100%.
I know people that were atheists who totally believe in God now because of things that have happened in their life.
You know, and it's not always bad things.
Here's the thing.
I have no, that's a, I think, wow, you offered really great perspective on that for me because I'm like skeptical a lot.
So when I see people going through tough times and then they're like publicly displaying this love for God, I look at it like, oh, are they just trying to manipulate the most forgiving people?
Because religious people are incredibly forgiving because a lot of them have went through incredible difficult things and then found God through that difficulty and then they've seen the light through it.
So I have like the most, I'm almost protective of them because I go, you might be vulnerable to this piece of shit trying to take advantage of you.
But that is interesting.
When you are at the lowest point in your life and you are humbled, you might also seek that same salvation.
Why do you think people find God in jail?
Can I offer one counterpart?
Well, also the food is better if you're Muslim in jail.
Apparently, yeah, because you have to be halal.
Yeah.
So I think a lot of people convert to Islam for the food.
That's crazy.
They still don't convert to Judaism.
Well, they don't let it happen.
Also, the Jewish food is that's true.
Actual question.
There's a Bible verse that it hit me really hard at the time.
I don't remember it super well.
Matthew 6, essentially, your good deeds, your relationship with God is not real if you are out there displaying it publicly.
So I'm inclined to believe, Andrew, especially with Christians, when they suddenly find God very publicly because there is an actual Bible verse that says that's not going to get rewarded by God.
The guy who doesn't let his left hand know what his right hand is doing when he's doing good deeds or whatever, that is the guy that gets rewarded.
But then they also tell us that we should champion God.
Like we should publicly praise him.
Like we should glorify him.
I can't remember the exact word, testify, testimony.
We all should have a testimony with God too, though.
And just like Charlotte was saying, like, when Kanye goes in, he goes all in.
Like, he made an album, no cursing.
He was doing Sunday service every single Sunday and not charging for it.
So it's like he was really all in during that period of time.
And I think we forget one of Kanye's first singles that was master with Jesus Wall.
So it's not like he always hasn't, you know, had a relationship, you know, with God.
Hmm.
No, no.
That's true.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe I have to have more of an open mind with those.
I mean, I get why you say that at times.
I just, I just feel bad because I know that there are people who have been saved and they see the power of God.
So when other people also see the power of God, they go, oh, I remember being in that situation.
And that sometimes is manipulative.
Because I know, like, what I saw from Diddy to me was 100% manipulative.
Diddy's always been a person that's talked about God.
But here's the thing.
It don't matter how much you talk about God.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Be about it.
Your actions.
Your word.
One of my affirmations today when I was reading was talking about effective truth.
And effective truth is essentially like, you know, we say things, right?
But it's about what you actually do that truth that honestly matters.
I'm probably fucking it all up because I just read it this morning.
But it's basically like what you actually do is what ultimately matters.
You can say anything, but if your actions ain't matching your words, it's like, what's the point?
And what's so scary about a lot of those people like that?
Okay, you fuck up, you turn to God.
What happens when things get good again?
Oh, yeah.
When things get good again, you just all of a sudden forget about God.
That's when God really gonna bring you to your knees.
Like, oh, word, you forgot just that fast, huh?
Watch this.
Because this ain't a lot of these people's first rodeo, bro.
A lot of these people have been down these, you know, points where it looked like they couldn't come back from it.
And, you know, God found a way.
But if you keep going back to the same behavior that, you know, caused you to hit rock bottom in the first place, what do you think is going to happen the second time?
I don't know why we act like God is, you know, just all-forgiving.
I don't believe that.
Well, I mean, he kind of said that.
Well, he also created man in his image according to his likeness.
So if I come to your house and pee on the rug once, you might forgive me.
I'm like, okay, he was, you know, drinking.
I knew he was in retarded class in high school.
You know what I mean?
Like something, right?
But if I come there and do it again, you're like, all right, bro.
Number one, I probably shouldn't have let you back in my house the second time, right?
But now you really are forbidden from coming here anymore.
In our purest form, I think we would still love that person.
And I think that's what God does.
You think so.
I think in your purest form, you still look at that person for all their flaws and all the negative things that they're going through and all the pain that, and I don't do this.
I'm not fronting like I do.
I hate that motherfucker the first time.
But God would look at that person and say, I know he's struggling.
I know he's angry.
He is, he's not maybe worthy of the rewards that I gave him.
And maybe I don't give him those, but I still love him the same.
And he's always welcome in my home.
That could be true.
Maybe he just has a weak bladder and he couldn't hold it.
Yeah, who knows?
We also act like God hasn't hit reset quite a few times now.
He's hit reset on this shit quite a few times, right?
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That's what I'm saying.
And we look at all these planets that ain't got no life on them.
That might have been a reset too, a permanent one.
God might just keep giving Earth all of these different chances.
How do we know we're not on our last rock?
So, what were the dinosaurs doing?
But fucking gang.
It's like they were gang problem.
Yo, that's all it took.
Asteroid seat.
Why you like ass.
I'm going to give you tons of it.
Why do you think a bronze or had that long neck?
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying?
And T-Rex had them little arms.
You're right up in your asshole.
Yeah, face-down asshole, bro.
That's what happens.
They tip over.
T-Rex back.
No, my.
Yeah, say it though.
No, I won't.
Say it though.
Nope.
Nah, because Jurassic Park.
Let's get honest here.
Let's get honest here.
Let's get brutally honest here.
Say it.
Say, what about the T-Rex?
You're going to move that tail out of the way and start digging.
You delete a scene in Jurassic Park where they were sucking each other's dicks.
You remember that?
Nah, man.
Just tell us.
Talking loud and saying something.
That's what you need to do.
Listen, just chapter 17 is talking about the music.
You're like T-Rex when you're in class.
You would know.
You're all the dinosaurs in the class.
Come on, son.
Andrew, what was your favorite part of the book?
Time to read that shit.
He did really.
I read all your books.
I do the audio, though.
Okay.
Two times speed.
Time for some action.
Time for some action.
Spelled the number four.
Refreshed the beef.
What was that talking about?
I forgot.
Action.
I don't care what word you use to describe your political affiliation.
Boom.
What religion you worship or what philosophy you subscribe to, your ideology, beliefs, principles.
None of those things matter more than your action.
Is that what he just said?
That's right.
That's crazy.
That's gratuitous.
You know, I'm out here.
That's literally, I'm telling you, it's all about action, bro.
I don't care.
Like, you can tell me anything.
Show me.
And that's the tricky thing with the internet is because it allows you to show things that you're not doing.
Yeah.
I saw somebody, I think it was published as weekly.
They gave me a great review, but they was like, but he has these tired takes about social media and how it's ruining a generation.
Why is that a tired take?
Yeah, it's a fact.
It's a fucking fact.
Nobody ever said.
Nobody ever said it's a tired take that cigarettes are killing people.
You can never say that enough.
Or what if somebody comes out with the global warming shit?
It's a tired task.
Exactly.
Why is it a tire?
Why is social media ruining us and ruining our critical thinking?
It's also funny because social media is killing readers' digest.
You said it's reader's digest.
No, Boston Weekly.
Well, either way.
Wait, wait, so wait, what was the specific take that they took exception to?
About social media.
They didn't even say it.
They just said it was a thing.
They just said, they're basically saying it's a great book.
He has some tired takes about social media and how social media is ruining us as a society.
And I'm just like, that's not a tired take.
That's the truth.
Kyle Newport wrote a whole book called Digital Minimalism, which I love.
Everybody has a book out.
The Ancient Generation.
I'm still reading Bill Maud's book, so I haven't got the Ancient Generation.
But that's, that's.
It's the same thing.
That's what I'm saying.
So how would that attire take?
How is warning somebody about something that's ruining us?
All right, what about the practical application?
That's something I saw in Heights that I thought was really good about like restricting.
It's not only just restricting phones because there's a certain point in your child's life where in order for them to be like a social individual, you need them to have a phone.
Like you don't want them to be that weird kid that has no way of getting in contact with their friends.
And it's important that they text each other or whatever.
And like, you know, they gossip with each other.
Do whatever kids fucking do.
But there's certain ages where you can do it.
And he was basically like, avoid puberty.
That's the most vulnerable time.
They have all these emotions going through their body.
They're so easily manipulated.
And the internet is right there to take advantage of them.
Yeah, I don't have to.
You have daughters, so I'm wondering, like.
I don't have none of my kids on social media.
How old are they?
As far as I know, my oldest is 15.
And she doesn't have any social media.
As far as I know.
So I made.
She might have some account on the computer.
Oh, no, I found, I did find one back in the day, but it was just like quick, fast, in a hurry.
Like, if you do this, you won't be doing this.
Right?
Wow.
Like, it's just that simple.
Because, you know, I just feel like social media really is that dangerous, to your point, to a young mind.
Like, I think the reason some of us are able to navigate it a little bit better because we're older.
We lived in a world without it.
Can you imagine growing up in a society where this is all you fucking know is social goddamn?
We watched the same 10 music videos after school every single time.
Discussed them all.
Could break them down so fucking eloquently.
Think about how little information we consumed as kids.
Yeah.
Like the same 10 videos.
It was like the same 10 books.
But it was almost nothing that we were consuming on a daily basis.
I wonder if that like affects memory and stuff now.
I feel like that a little bit where like I'll, it takes me a few times to really kind of get some to lock in.
And obviously I'm terrified that because my dad's dementia or whatever.
But I wonder if it's, my brain is filled with so much absolute bullshit that I don't have a calm enough and receptive enough brain to consuming things I actually want to remember.
That's one bit about this.
I just instead I said it's my wife's stories that are taking away so many fucking words.
That's why I stopped taking in so much information.
I know that sounds crazy to say, but it's just like you just cannot physically or mentally or emotionally consume everything that comes at you on a daily fucking basis.
I don't even read as many books as I used to because I find myself just reading it to say I read it.
I'm forgetting about it.
Yes.
And I'm like, damn, I don't even remember nothing that was in that book.
So I'd rather read two or three books a year.
The amount of time I talk, reread a page because I get to the bottom like, I don't.
I don't think I read a single word of that.
I was telling Mark about a TV show.
We were flying back from, I think it was Abu Dhabi.
I was telling Mark and Derek about a TV show.
And I was like, oh my God, the fucking show is incredible.
The ending was amazing.
And then in that moment, I go, I don't even know who killed him.
A show I watched that I am projecting my opinions on some and saying the end is so incredible that I forgot the fucking ending.
How?
I talked to him.
Talk to people.
I have conversations with people and I'd be like, yo, man, damn, I can't remember where I heard such and such told me such and such, such.
And the person would be like, I told you.
I just do that.
I told you that fucking yesterday.
This is in Jonathan Hyde's book.
He brings up Harrison Bergeron, this book by Kurt Vonnegut, where basically the whole world, everyone has to be equal.
It's like 2080.
Some people have high IQ, some people have low IQ.
So in order to balance everything out, the people with high IQs have a device placed in their brains that every two or three minutes there's a beep that goes off and it makes them lose their train of thought.
So they can't sit there and think of all these advanced things and propel themselves to it.
Essentially, it dumbs them down.
Exactly.
But this is interesting.
Jonathan Haidt makes the correlation that we basically already have that.
So we're sitting here and every two or three minutes you're thinking of something.
You're like, oh, that's a really funny connection.
That's something that can go in my book.
That's something I can talk about on idiots.
And all of a sudden your phone goes off and you go, bro, that's me.
And then you're immediately disrupted.
And so we're already disrupting ourselves and dumbing ourselves down.
And he says we're not taking time to basically be with ourselves.
How much smarter are you in the shower?
Yeah.
Oh, I heard everything more.
How much creative are you?
And then as soon as you get out, I forgot.
I'm like, what the fuck did I just, I just had a failure idea.
What the fuck happened to it?
You know?
Or just in the middle of conversation, you be talking, you be talking, you be talking.
And then it'd be like one thing.
I'd be like, God, I'm sitting there listening to the mark.
I'm like, how the fuck did Mark remember all of that shit from that book?
Literally.
And as he's talking, I had to refocus myself to listen to what he's saying because he's telling me exactly what just caused me to lose focus on what he was saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just Googled it.
I don't even remember it.
But it is.
I didn't remember what you said, but I don't remember what you said.
So I'm curious what happens to kids in like, say, 10 years from now when they have all this distraction while they're also consuming.
Right?
We didn't really have that much distraction while we're consuming.
And we weren't even consuming that much shit in school anyway.
Like they were telling us to read.
We weren't reading books over the fucking summer.
Maybe you were out.
Okay.
I was out.
Your program, baby.
Four books for a pizza yeah, I bought the pizza.
Four books were they coloring?
That's why I started reading so much Judy Bloom, and yeah, oh really, Judy Bloom, Beverly Clear yeah so, but what i'm trying to say is like, what happens 10 years from now?
Right, like these kids right now, let's assume let's go off the same thesis right, that they're not able to hold on to the information that they're consuming because they have this other stuff distract them.
They have that little tick, that little beep.
They never learn.
Well, 10 years will they not know fucking algebra?
Will they make geography?
Will they not know?
And we've outsourced most of the learning.
We're gonna outsource even more and more and more to ai.
So it's like there's not even a need for me to learn.
I think eventually they're gonna bake in like a dark period throughout the day, like you know how uh, Spain has siestas.
It's like I think there'll be a dark period.
Nah, I think they will, because what would it look like?
Give me so like say, a certain period during school where it's like no technology, no screens no nothing, just their brain just calmed down.
And I think adults will do it, I think everybody will do it.
It'll just be like something that's known that we need this.
Just to continue, our mental health would have to change so much.
Yeah, there's gonna be propaganda.
But a teacher came forward, like recently, with an article and he was like I used to love teaching and I had to quit because I just can't compete with phones.
We try to take the phones from the kids.
We there's like we cannot beat the phones.
They do not listen, so they try to make a dark period from 8 a.m to 3 p.m.
Don't work.
These are kids.
They're not.
They're not having it.
We're a society in America that loves overconsumption.
Yeah, number one.
And a lot of those teachers are probably like you know what, get back on y'all phone kids because y'all stressing me the out you know what i'm saying because you you, you you're forced to entertain them, and that's that's another thing I talk about in the book too.
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It's like when I say, give yourself permission to not have these conversations.
It's okay if you want to not talk to the person next to you and you just want to be in your phone, or you want to read your book, or you want to be alone with your thoughts.
Don't feel like we have to make conversation, just because we're sitting next to each other.
Like that's something that I think um, you know, even with that dark period you're talking about Alex, it's like you can't force these kids to not want to be on what they want to be on.
I just feel that eventually it'll get to the point where like, the global warming will actually start warming too much, where it's like we really need to do some shit about it and I think oh okay yeah, I think like maybe suicides might go up or certain things just start going up to a level where it's like no one feels comfortable.
Nah, you got to bring back hell.
You got to bring back the story of hell.
That is the perfect time to bring back fear of going to hell anymore.
No, there's hella.
Fear going to hell, because if you think it's hot now with climate change, don't act right here on this motherfucking planet and feel how it's going to be in the afterlife.
Yeah, if you can't stand this shit, you don't want to go to eternal hellfire, bring back stories of hell.
Yeah, when's the last time you heard a good story of hell, bro?
Never, never in a while.
Y'all in New York, y'all was never scared, lived in New York for a while.
I think if you go back for a while, there'll be a lot of stories of hell yeah yeah yeah y'all, yeah.
The funny part is, in most movies, New York is hell yeah, like when you.
They show you Hell.
They show you like Relax no, they do.
They show you like New York City, do they?
Yeah really, you didn't know that, I mean, I mean, I remember watching The Devil's Advocate or whatever that was.
It was a fantastic, great movie.
Great movie.
Young Wars Prada, another one.
Devil Wars Prada, awesome.
Country boy.
Think about it, though.
Yeah.
Keanu Reed was a country boy.
Yeah.
Came to New York.
New York was the devil's playground.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
Fun times.
Yeah, I don't know if I subscribe to this.
New York is healthy.
I'm just chilling out.
You know, I would say that if I moved to New York and didn't make it either.
It's probably because it's hell over there and you got to be the devil in order to make it.
Bring back hell, baby.
Bring back stories of hell.
I wonder if we do start to get a little bit more religious.
And I wonder if that's what can kind of rein us in.
Because that seems like there are very few things everybody can agree on.
Like, what is the one thing that Americans can agree on right now?
Tragedy, which is.
It has to be extreme tragedy.
Oh, oh, like that can, that can compel all of us to come together.
I think that's temporary too.
And like Nana has brought us together for about a week.
A little longer.
A little longer.
Okay.
Might have been a little rougher for you, but.
No, I brought y'all together.
We hoped it would be over.
What is the solidarity home?
He's got to keep telling himself that it's over.
It's over.
They don't care no more.
They don't care about us no more.
Yeah, I think tragedy ain't God, yo, but tragedy brings you to God.
Yeah.
Tragedy is what makes you start reflecting.
It makes you start thinking about, you know, what it is you should be doing in your fucking life.
Yeah.
You know?
What do you think that tragedy might look like if it's coming?
Nuclear weapon.
Nuclear bomb.
Oh, wow.
That's the only thing.
At this point, we're too far gone.
That shit is crazy.
Why do you say that?
I just talked to a woman that's on the denuclearization board.
She's trying to get all these countries to stop making nuclear weapons.
And I didn't realize how real this shit is.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
What do you mean?
You didn't realize?
Like, I wasn't alive during the Cold War.
I wasn't alive during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Like, I wasn't alive during any of these major nuclear standoffs.
So in my mind, it's like, yeah, there's some bombs.
And it's just based on somebody's stability as a human.
Yeah.
Putin has soul power to launch any amount of nuclear warheads.
I think they have 1,000, 1,500.
And if you're like, you know, literally destroy the world.
There's been rumors that he's sick and stuff like that.
So if you're at that point, I don't know if we hear it or not, but if you get to a point where you're like, you know what, man, fuck it.
I'm about to be out anyway.
Push the goddamn button.
You just don't know what you don't know.
Like that shit could really.
If he gets dementia or he starts losing his mind, who's going to be able to overthrow him in time?
Theoretically.
Not that it will happen, but theoretically, he could just press that button for it.
That's a situation on purpose.
It could even just happen on accident.
There's like all these stories of like Russian, you know, sub, it's like submarine dudes chilling with a nuclear warhead on the submarine, and then all of a sudden three of the guys have to all push the button to shoot the nuke.
And they get a read on the radar, like, oh, Russia's just been attacked by American missiles.
We got to shoot the nuke back.
Come on, explain that again.
This is a crazy story.
This is an insane story.
This happened in like the 60s, 70s.
This is like absolutely insane.
And I'm going to kind of paraphrase this.
Basically, you have three Russian guys on a nuclear submarine.
Okay.
Okay.
On the submarine.
They have a nuclear war.
It's not a joke.
There's a real.
No one's going to be gay.
No one's going to be gay.
There's nothing crazy.
Three Russian guys are on a sub.
Russian soldiers are on a sub.
There's a nuclear war sub that can launch the nuke from the sub.
Okay.
Okay.
And then they all of a sudden get a read on the radar that Russia is being attacked by an American nuclear bomb.
Okay.
And the status quo is you are attacked.
If we get attacked, we have to immediately counter-strike.
So two of the guys on the sub go, all right, we're getting the reading.
We're going to counter-strike.
And the third guy goes, I'm not doing it.
And he goes, why?
And he's like, we just have to wait.
Let's just wait 30 minutes, an hour.
Let's see if it hits and then we'll counter-strike.
So they wait 30 minutes, they phone up, and all of a sudden they realize that the reading they had on the radar was a faulty reading.
There was no actual nuclear missile or any missile that was fired.
That guy saved humanity.
Yeah.
And nobody even knows his fucking name.
Shit.
And there's like five of those stories.
There was also a nuclear weapon that was dropped in South Carolina.
Yeah.
What?
It landed in someone's backyard.
Is that how you got it?
No joke was coming.
It's never happened.
I'm pretty sure it's dropped by whom?
Like American forces.
It was on an airplane.
It accidentally fell in someone's backyard, didn't detonate.
It was caught in a tree, if I remember.
I was just chilling.
South Carolina Moth Creek.
I bet you it was a fucking moth tree, bro.
Bro, I bet you it was a fucking moth creep that caught Mars Bluff.
1958.
Inadvertent release of a nuclear weapon from a United States B-47 over Mars Bluff, South Carolina, the bomb.
I've never even heard of Mars Bluff, South Carolina.
What year, Mark?
50.
1958.
20 years ago.
What was happening geopolitically around the 58?
You think that there was a false flag?
They like tried to do a.
I like this.
I'm listening.
Doesn't it feel like some shit?
Was Korea happen?
No, Korea was before that.
Korea was like 63, I think.
I don't know if nuclear bombs can just fall.
Six people are.
You're trying to say they were trying to bomb blacks in South Carolina?
No.
Brazilian?
Exactly.
I'm saying, like, does America Wall Street and bluff?
Did America want to get into a war or something and needed an excuse?
And then they're like, oops, we dropped it.
That's kind of crazy that a nuclear weapon just dropped from the sky.
I don't, yeah, I don't believe that shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
All that shit is just.
How corn.
You can't just imagine us being incompetent.
Yeah, no.
Why is the LGBTIP?
This is different.
This is different.
This is from an old search.
Oh, I'm like, what the fuck?
It happened again in 1961 in North Carolina.
So what's up with the Carolinas?
Special, man.
They're trying to get us out of here.
It'll be special.
Maybe a basis or something.
Yeah, special.
There's a lot of military bases.
And there's a bunch of military bases in North and South Carolina.
Like most people who are military brats have spent some time in South Carolina and North Carolina.
Bro, this shit is crazy.
Seven countries got nuclear weapons, but a bunch of them have access to nuclear weapons and they can get them from other countries and shit.
Sweden just asked, like, requested for nuclear weapons from America.
Like, yo, put some nuclear weapons over here.
Andy Jacobson just wrote a whole book where basically she's like, let's say North Korea wants to start a war.
They launch a bunch of nukes over.
We start nuking back over at them.
All of a sudden, Russia's involved because they're an ally.
So now they're going to start hitting Europe.
There's fires everywhere.
Nuclear winter happens and then everyone dies of famine.
You have to listen to crazy, Mark.
You know, you just said Andy Jacobson.
Guess who's directing that movie after June Messiah?
Who?
Denis Ville Neuf.
That's the option that it's called Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson, which is like a ticking clock scenario of what would happen in nuclear war.
And they've spoken to all those people about all that plan.
But that's 70 minutes.
That's real.
Yeah, 70 minutes.
And then everybody's dead.
No, I mean, first, initially, a bunch of people die.
In the 70s, is it that long?
Everyone in the cities dies within 70 minutes.
And then within like a couple months after that, everyone in the middle of the country will be fall up.
They're basically like, if you're like away from the equator, if you're like Australia, maybe Argentina, you might live, but everyone else is dying.
And now we find all these billionaires are building bunkers in New Zealand.
The crazy part is in Hawaii, and this is how you know America's so wild, right?
For the past five, six months, it has been heavy talk of nuclear war from different people.
Putin said it's not off the table.
Like all everybody's talking about it, and nobody gives a fuck.
We're just going on about our day every fucking day.
Like this isn't a possibility.
I also think people are just trying to top the next person, and that's really the last big dick swinging contest you could do at this point.
Like, what more can you say besides like, yo, I got nukes.
Remember, I got nukes.
Hey, remember when a couple weeks ago, 300 missiles were fired from Iran to Israel?
Oh, my gosh.
You guys saw that happen.
What if that shit went well?
They got not wrong.
We're talking about nukes.
We're not talking about rubber bands.
Who has nukes?
Israel has nukes and Iran could have nukes.
Dub's not wrong.
That's a bunch of stupid crackers.
Wait a minute.
Wait, what are you saying?
Oh, you're saying that could have been nuclear war.
That could have started something.
I mean, by the way, Pakistan, they got nukes.
I don't think Iran lasted on Scarlet.
But remember when Russia doesn't have nukes.
Remember when the can have nukes?
Listen.
They might be.
I don't think they happen.
Remember when that fake police office up?
Former USSR came apart.
Do you know how much random uranium and plutonium is in different parts of wherever the former countries were?
Like where someone on the black market's going to find some uranium?
What Dove is saying?
Who got the Bobranium, though?
I've been saying it's not all accounted for.
And something like that could start that war.
Pakistan, India?
Do you think?
We're close.
It's just a weird time right now, man.
Governments fall apart, anarchy.
It'd be pretty crazy.
So is this like an argument?
It'll be fun.
So I was sitting in the break.
We're fine.
Oh, I thought you said it was funny.
I don't think nobody's pushing a button.
Is this an argument, though, for okay, if the world is this unstable, is this an argument for whoever's in power placing people in positions of power in foreign countries to maintain the stability?
Like if we all subscribe to this idea that at any point in time, nuclear war, and you have a potentially unstable leader, a Kim Jong-un or Kim Jong or something like that, to me, if the world is that vulnerable and then in 70 minutes everybody's dead, it is the most benevolent thing to do, which is get him the fuck out of there and then put some puppet in that you know at least isn't going to push the button.
If that's how we did it, yeah.
But I just don't think we necessarily do it just when we're worried about it.
I agree.
There's financial reasons, et cetera.
But you could make the argument if it's that vulnerable.
Kim Jong-un might need to go.
Yeah.
But see, that's my thing.
What happened?
Remember, what happened to just taking people like that out?
I think about this all the time.
There used to be a time when you were like that.
They just get to get them the fuck out of here.
Which makes me feel like they can trust him.
It makes me feel like he's a good, bad guy.
Hey, we need somebody out there.
This is going to pop shit.
You need a foil.
Exactly.
You need somebody to keep everybody on their toes to make you think some bad shit can happen.
Exactly.
But we really got to.
When was the last time we got somebody out of here?
Because I feel like it's just been a while, and it makes me think that's not, we don't have it like that anymore.
What's why?
Well, the Gaddafi just got it.
Some people feel ragged at.
Some people feel like the Iran president.
There's some shaky shit there.
I thought it was.
I think that was an inside job.
Yeah, I thought it was the Cowboys and the Starboys.
Apparently, I think it's an inside job.
What the fuck, the weekend got to do with this?
What are you talking about?
Cowboys and the Starboys.
No, no, the Cowboys are America, and the Starboys are the Jews.
The star of the flag, you know?
Okay, okay.
But I think it was an inside job specifically because apparently they took the black box out of the helicopter like two weeks before.
So why would there not be a black box in the president's helicopter?
Also, I think all the helicopters are super old because they're American and to get the points.
There's a boycott on American, there's a boycott on like military sanctions, embargoes on American parts to replace.
And then the other thing is, I think that the supreme leader or whatever his name is, Khomeini.
Khomeini's, I think Khomeini wants his son to take over after him.
But the fact is that the power is not necessarily split, but there are people who really love the president, apparently, from what I was reading, in Iran.
And whenever there is a split of power or people who are following power, the way that you consolidate that is you get rid of the other person that's got some power.
Wow.
So it looks to me that it's suspicious.
But then that wasn't us.
But all we haven't done.
But you said, somebody, you said it was an inside job show.
Oh, no.
But all this shit is inside jobs.
Keep going.
Keep going.
That's the whole point.
You get somebody that people feel comfortable with and close to to infiltrate and go get the job done.
It's no foreigner shooting American presidents.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the presidents who've been shot have been shot by people who are here.
Somebody got in their ear and corrupted them in some way, shape, or form.
So who are the leaders that we want switched up?
Obviously, Putin.
But then here's the other thing about Putin.
Who do we want to die?
We can say that.
Yo, yo, yo.
Switched out.
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
So here's the difference.
Give him an asylum in America, put them in the Hamptons.
No, no, no.
Here's nothing.
Here's the thing about Putin.
I don't even know if we want Putin switched out.
Because if the military industrial complex in America makes tons of money making weapons, right?
We need someone to use those weapons on.
Putin is nice.
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He's a nice foil.
He's someone who's going to start a war.
He's someone's going to, or he's going to at least respond to our antagonization, right?
So you need someone who responds.
You don't need someone who bends over.
If they bend over, we can't use the weapons.
I never thought about that until you said that.
But a guy that's saying, I'll send over the nukes if I need to.
Yeah.
That guy you don't want to fuck with.
That guy you can switch out.
Logically, if you believe that he'll do it.
Exactly.
I don't think we believe he'll do it.
Think about what we're doing.
We are supplying Ukraine with all the weapons.
We're essentially the ones that are, I mean, it's American weapons that are killing Russian soldiers.
You have to give him incentive to want to.
Of course, but the fact that he doesn't still.
And he knows where the weapons are coming from.
He knows where the weapons are coming from.
So maybe it's the perfect foil.
Maybe he also has a military industrial complex that he needs to supply weapons for or use weapons for.
So he's liking the fact that this war is going on too.
I don't know.
The thing about sending nukes is once he sends over nukes, we send over nukes.
But we're not talking about nukes.
We're talking about what is the status quo.
So far, we're the only ones that have sent nukes.
And we've been in so many skirmishes, wars, conflicts, whatever you call with the Russians.
We're talking about back to Afghanistan, right?
Where nothing has happened.
And we know that this is Russian weapons and American weapons combating.
We're using proxies.
This happened all over.
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How do we know nukes even really exist?
I'm not sure Japanese people who are well.
I'm talking about now, though.
How do we know that they still exist?
Because the Andrew's point, ain't nobody let one fly.
There was one in a fucking tree in South Carolina.
We don't know it.
It didn't detonate.
Conveniently didn't detonate.
I don't believe it.
Just conveniently didn't detonate.
Well, they do test them a lot.
They do test them.
Where?
Underground islands.
Yeah.
What do you, yeah, what is the Marshall Islands?
It's holls.
Don't drink tricks.
Marshall Islands.
Yeah, it's Bikini Island.
Yeah, Bikini Atoll is a big one.
Yeah.
No, no, no, Charles.
No, no.
No.
By the way, shout out to everybody who comes to the book sign and trying to get me on these dick jokes.
I have not forgotten.
Okay.
They're still trying to get me on dick jokes.
No, what's the best one?
None because they didn't use it.
Like the dude tried to hit me with the tippeter the other day.
I'm like, oh, cut it out.
Cut it out.
Yes.
He's out there in Coral Games Saturday.
He tried to hit me with me with the Tippita.
I got hit with the Putin one the other day.
The Putin.
But Putin can get you.
Anything that can get like that, it can get you a little bit.
Putin is dick.
Well, that can't get you, though.
Because it can get you.
They can get you.
Because we're talking about nuclear war.
What do you think about Putin, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll show you something that will explode.
I'm just saying.
We're in crazy times, man.
Yeah, but also great times.
Yeah, that's the problem.
That really is.
Both.
More people got access to clean drinking water than ever.
We got air conditioning.
We're living in the best time of human history.
Dude, air conditioning is awesome.
Let's family star nation global.
That means more than clean drinking water.
We got black country singers, white rappers.
We got white golfers running over cops.
Yeah, India's got Wi-Fi.
We get to see what they're up to.
They've got Wi-Fi.
That's awesome over there.
I mean, like, shit is also fire.
We can focus on all the negative, but we're not going back to any other time.
I guess that's the whole thing, right?
All of this doesn't have to be negative if we just have conversations about it, right?
Because a lot of them.
Honest conversation.
Honest conversation.
A lot of, like, we just had an honest conversation.
Yeah.
What world leaders need to go?
They got to put it in.
We need the motherfuckers to get it.
And why are they not doing this shit old school, primitive style like they used to?
Andrew brings up a fire point because they're all in cahoots together.
They're useful.
That's it.
When they all have those conversations where they don't get up at the trunk, walks in front of people and like shakes their hands and ping.
You should switch out GG ping.
You probably can't even tell the difference.
That's not a dick joke.
It's very racist.
It's very racist.
It's a very racist channel.
We just let you out.
I started itching.
Xi Jinping in your mouth.
Like, what?
He's saying that you could switch out the Chinese leader and nobody would know if you just put another Chinese in the stop having a dick joke.
It's so funny.
He's still trying to figure out.
He thinks there's something.
He thinks there's something coming.
Point is they're all meeting up and they're all having the conversations.
It gotta be.
That's why I never understood when people used to get upset when Trump used to go talk to these people.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Bro, aren't you supposed to go talk to Pooh?
But now you know.
Aren't you supposed to go talk to Lita Nova?
Now you know that that's what the internet is foxing.
He's gonna have a field name with that.
No, it's not fox.
What do you mean?
No, no, I'm saying like it's it's the internet is for people to be upset about things, right?
And there are little ecosystems.
Like I used to feel when the internet, like at least internet media, like news media on the internet initially popped up, right?
I was like, oh, wow, there's going to be some truth and opportunity.
And they're not beholden to the pharmaceutical companies and they're not holding to the military industrial complex.
And because of that, you're going to see unfiltered truth, right?
And now it's just like, oh, you're just as biased.
You're just leaning into whatever you get clicks for.
Like this idea that the internet news is not an echo chamber that's constantly regarding.
You could make the argument.
It's worse.
Then it might, okay, why do you think it's worse?
Because I respect you more if you're getting a big ass check from a pharmaceutical company than if you're getting YouTube ads.
YouTube ads.
We're going to lie for YouTube ads.
You know what I'm saying?
It's no debt right now.
Because they just got on the internet and lied, got sued.
Now they're in debt for the rest of their fucking life.
I would rather you get the big check from the pharmaceutical company.
Yeah, yeah.
Get some shit that you can walk away from.
Get fucking your ass for billions.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, if Bowie's gonna fuck you, everybody.
Better if Bowie fucks you in the ass than the fucking what's an ad sense that comes on YouTube.
Yeah.
Yes.
If you won't be fucked if you're a fucking person.
Yeah, like $10.
You got a $4 CPA.
You always got to think like you sitting around with your boys.
Whether it's in the hood, whether you in Manhattan, when you're going to play basketball, whatever that circle was, right?
Remember, when we all know that circle when you young, that circle that you crave the validation and you want them to give you your props.
If they find out you got fucked in your ass, you got to be able to say, I paid a billion for it, though.
It's Boeing.
Yeah.
So they'd be like, I paid a billion to get fucked in there.
A billion dollars.
Yeah.
And then I'll be.
Still gay, but yeah, I get it.
They ain't gay at that point.
It's like, good business.
I want a loan.
It's good business.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And that's when you'd be like, you know what?
You got to give you a million.
You know, you got to think so.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to keep it like I got it.
Ain't going to be no loan forgiveness.
I'm not the Biden administration.
I'm coming to the track.
You got to get it like I got it.
Okay.
I got a billion to get fucked in the ass.
Let's negotiate.
Exactly.
That's all.
Yeah.
You're dirty ass.
Your ass is dirty.
You know what I mean?
So that is, but that is the thing that I've noticed.
So maybe it's just indicative of like who we are as people.
We're just going to lean into where our bread is buttered.
And it's going to be very hard for there to be truth out there.
It's going to be very hard because a lot of times people aren't willing to take the hit for the truth.
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Nobody cares about the truth when the lies more entertaining.
Ooh, who said that?
Who said that?
I said that in my first book.
Who said that?
But that before.
Also, it's the narrative.
It's not even when the lie is more entertaining.
It's when the lie is more lucrative.
Nobody cares about the truth when the lies more lucrative.
When the lie is more lucrative.
And once you understand the internet and you realize how easy it is to just get views and that kind of shit, and you, like, like, I'm very proud of myself.
Like, we make an active choice.
We're like, okay, we're going to have some people on that we think are fun, but we're not going to, we're not going to basically frame every single episode into things that we think are bullshit.
There's a comedy point.
But you don't know.
Oh, we know.
Not all of us.
There's a way to game this shit.
And we choose not to do it.
We choose not to do it.
But you would have to have like a fact checker researcher sitting in studio right now.
I'm saying the opposite.
I'm saying we could go the, we could go the extremist route.
Uh-huh.
And we could yell and have a really bad take about something and that shit will go.
But so many people will be right.
We just think that they're not right because they're yelling.
And we think, and they got, and the internet has told us that what they're saying is not true.
I'm the type of person, I got to go research it myself.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not listening to social media.
Like yesterday was a great example, right?
Nikki Minaj gets arrested.
Oh, yeah.
Nikki tweets out, and this happened in Amsterdam where weed is legal.
So my mind goes, well, maybe weed isn't legal in Amsterdam.
Let me just go Google and see, because I never knew.
You know, you always hear these stories about Amsterdam Red Light District.
It's not legal in Amsterdam.
Well, that wasn't the issue, but yeah.
But it's legal in designated coffee shops, in places where it's designated.
And I think you can only have up to like five grams or some shit like that.
So if she had a bunch of pre-rolls, maybe they were over five grams.
The issue is she was trying to travel to another country with them.
And that's where you get punished.
So at the Amsterdam airport, if they see that you're bringing weed into onto your flight, they can arrest you for that.
But my point is, that's part of the law.
Yeah, exactly.
In her mind, weed is legal in Amsterdam.
Which one isn't true.
And two, you're bringing it to another state or another country or whatever it is, which is also true.
So they find her for that.
Which we've seen happen in America.
You might leave Callie with the weed and land in fucking Denver Airport.
There's like a child killed.
It's like an amnesty thing where he was like, throw it out now.
Because if we catch you with it, you're fucked.
See what I'm saying?
That's funny.
Throw it away here.
It's good.
You're good.
Security.
Oh, that's cool.
I like that.
Yeah.
They just have a box you can put it on.
That's, I like that.
And then all the TSA guys take it home.
Yeah.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Resell it.
That's fire.
But my point is: like, she said that.
That's good faith.
And mad people on social media repeated it.
I saw that so much yesterday.
Why is this happening to Nikki?
Weed is legal and everything.
Not quite, guys.
Yeah.
But nobody even stopped to do anything.
And then people will turn that story into anything that fits their argument.
So if their argument, look how racist the world is, they'd be like, oh my God, look racist.
Or look how, or the opposite, which is look how entitled American is.
Look how entitles America.
Look, this is another Britney Griner just thinking that she could take drugs all around the world.
It's going to be okay.
And people will frame this story into whatever fits their echo chamber.
Nikki had to do it.
And this ties into what she said.
Nikki kept it into the.
This is them still trying to sabotage my tour.
They've been trying to stop me.
For the love.
You know her whole.
You know her whole thing is, you're about the industry's trying to shut her down and stop her.
She put it right back.
No, this is the people trying to stop my tour.
I don't know why they're trying to stop my tour.
You know what that makes people want to do.
What's kicking?
I gotta go out here and support Nikki.
Yeah, that was what he's saying about the echo chamber, that faith.
That ties into the earlier point he was making, which is, I can just feed you what I already know.
You want to hear.
You want to hear yes oh, look at racism, all examples of racism.
That makes you feel good and there's a way you can lean into that and kind of grift and just make pretty good money.
Want to do it.
You can't be great, you can't go to college, but you can have a good comfy.
I know I really want to do what would be your grift?
Okay, what would you jump on?
Mental health therapy, that kind of thing?
Did this?
Um, I don't know you could go conservative and have so much fun.
Oh, my god, doing that.
Now i'm trying to, um yeah, what's the next grift?
Um, I don't know.
But my, my thing is, like I, I cannot do it, meaning that maybe it's just an I don't, i'm not, i'm not a contrarian, but I have to just see what the other point of view is, point of view intelligent person, I have to.
Yeah like, you cannot just tell me something, I have to go see what the other p is.
Also, if your contrarian nature inspires you to do that, that's not a bad thing.
Whatever it is that makes you go out there and seek a little bit more information.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
Yeah, it's okay.
You should.
Yes like, don't just take somebody's word for it, not even mine, but you have to understand how hard that is when you're making money on it, and a lot of people on the internet are making money.
They're paying their rent, they're paying their family's rent and they have a responsibility now to go continue making this money in this way.
They quit their job.
They're like, holy, i'm making money making youtube videos.
Now I got to keep these clicks up.
I got to keep these views up.
How do I do it?
Oh, here's my currency.
I'm leaving it to that.
The algorithm decides what they create, not themselves.
It's the most inauthentic version of creation.
That's right.
You are not creating for you, you are creating for others, for others yeah, I talk about that in the book.
It's just like yo.
I know very smart people, very intelligent people, who are literally just telling people what they want to hear, And it's so predictable.
And then they have the audacity to criticize.
Yeah.
You aren't even creating what you authentically want.
Oh, my God.
And you have the audacity to criticize.
Algorithm has decided who you are as a creator.
Oh, my God, man.
No, it's actually disgusting.
Yeah.
And they're influential.
People will believe them too.
Yeah.
I think it's coming.
Yeah, I think that's sustainable.
That's what they don't realize.
And that's true.
Initially, it was because we just kind of believed anything that was produced.
We were like, oh, my God, here's information.
It must be true.
Somebody put effort into making this.
And now that people are starting to see that there's like a grift and you can get views by doing certain things, I think the public is starting to be skeptical of the same exact video being put out.
I think there still is a market for it.
But there's influence.
I think we underestimate how many people are lost.
And to your point about religion, giving guidance, since there's not as much religion, maybe Tim Dylan said this.
We're all kind of looking for God in something else.
So if I'm a broken person who got treated, women treated me like shit.
I never got no pussy.
I guess that's me, but I didn't get angry about it.
But you chose not to get pussy.
Yeah, that's true.
But like these people who they find these red pill guys and they're like, oh, they're telling me exactly what I want to hear.
I don't care what you expose about them.
I don't care if it's fake.
That makes me feel good.
I need to.
Oh, you see that with celebrity all the time.
Yeah.
Like people like you like, and that's how I know people don't really be caring about the issues like they care.
They care about the individual.
Like people got mad at me last week.
I didn't realize they got mad at me for some brilliant idiot shit I said months ago when we were talking about Diddy.
And I was just saying how like when I see situations like this, it's sad.
Right?
Like I did Dan Abrams' show and he played the clip from Idiots, right?
But he played it without the context.
So the context was, it's sad to see another person, you know, ruin their life based off poor choices.
Yeah.
Right.
It's sad to see when these people crash and burn just because they've made poor, alleged poor choice.
At the time, I said alleged poor choice.
Yeah.
Right.
So when somebody asked me about Diddy, it was on the view.
They asked me about Diddy and I go, I think we need to focus on the issue, not the individual.
Because what happens a lot of times in these situations, we get so caught up in the celebrity of it all that we don't ever take the time to talk about what's the real core issue here.
To me, it's domestic violence.
It's these men that need to go through the work on themselves because they're dealing with all this hurt and this pain and this unhealed trauma and they're projecting that on the other women.
And it's the patriarchy because you got a guy like a Diddy who's in a position of power who probably don't look at any woman as an equal or as a...
Or it's a sociopathic, power-hungry, narcissist.
But that's all, that's still all mental health related.
That's still all something that you need to go crazy people.
Yes, yes.
So my point is, we don't ever talk about the issue.
Now it's a, Diddy's music is banned from Peloton and Diddy's eyeglasses.
Who gives a fuck?
Whatever happens to him as an individual, he's got to deal with the consequences of his actions.
But the issue is still going to be going on.
That's interesting.
As I'm talking right now, somebody's getting their ass kicked.
Some woman's getting their ass kicked right now.
Nobody's even paying her no attention.
And then we move once we see justice is served for the individual.
That's right.
We act as if the issue is taken care of.
But in reality, it's not taken care of at all.
At all.
But our passivity comes in because we feel satisfied because we never cared about the issue.
And I've never cared a strong.
Like, we cared more about the fact that this famous person we saw in fucking whole lives is involved in this fucking thing.
A pound of flesh.
Yeah, I largely agree with you.
Could you make the argument that there is still some benefit in seeing we're going to make an example out of this guy?
You're going to take this guy who was like demigod of sorts, like so powerful, and he's going to be stripped to nothing.
And these are the consequences of those actions.
Yes, but you have to put the lesson in it, right?
Like we can't have these small conversations about Diddy and what it means to his legacy, whatever, whatever.
We have to say, this is what happens to your legacy when you do bullshit behavior like this.
Like we don't, we're not, I don't think we ever have those discussions when it comes to celebrity.
Like all we see is all of these guys get canceled.
All of these guys go to prison as they should for do what?
R. Kelly, same exact thing.
Nobody's talking about human trafficking.
Nobody's talking about what's happening to these.
Nothing.
He pees on people.
That's it.
Yeah.
Which is hilarious.
What's the lesson with Diddy?
It's like, oh, he's gay.
Yeah, he's gay.
But it's not.
We don't know that yet.
That is the other.
What we know about Diddy is he absolutely puts his hands on women.
We've seen that.
I think that part's worse.
Than him being gay?
I don't know, dude.
No, you're right.
No, no, no.
It depends how he's getting his butt.
No, because he can't be.
He's not consensual.
He's being ass.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, he's going to be non-consensual.
Exactly.
I think we know he's gay, though, from that video.
Bro, there's one story that's don't jump away.
He did fight the flower.
We found that he's gay from that video.
Why?
Because when he was holding his towel?
No.
What?
Was it title?
The socks.
I didn't notice the socks.
You didn't see the socks in the video?
No.
I really couldn't.
I didn't watch the figure.
I pay attention to the goddamn thing.
Once I saw him pull her down and kick, I'm like, I didn't watch that power.
I just watched the socks.
I watched him like Joker walking through the hallway in his pink fuchsia socks.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, this guy's definitely gay.
That was what I thought.
That was the first thing I thought.
I didn't know they were pink.
Oh, wow.
He put on her socks.
Why would he do that?
Because it's a power thing.
It's grippy.
By the way.
It's grippy, bro.
Drugs like a motherfucker.
Yes.
Got it.
That's clear.
And she said he was intoxicated as shit, but you are Sean P. Diddy Combs.
Yeah.
And you're in the Intercontinental Hotel and you run out in a towel.
This was 2000, what, 16 is there or 18?
Yeah.
This guy was 46 years old.
You're a hundred.
You're a multi-million.
You might have been a billionaire, but I don't chalk it up.
Like, no drug makes you beat a woman.
No, no, no.
You beat women and drugs.
I agree with that.
And then you do it.
Yeah, it's not only drugs.
I'm not saying it's not only drugs, but this isn't regular behavior, bro.
Like, I think it's regular.
You're running in a hotel with a towel like.
I agree with him.
I think it's irregular for him.
I think he's such a fucking monster.
The amount of times you got to hit your girl to not give a fuck that you're in public.
Yes.
That's what I'm saying.
But I think that he's just such a power-hungry person that when he, I think he feels invincible when he has the power.
And these types of things, unfortunately, make him feel invincible.
Yeah.
Top of bottom.
What?
Top of bottom.
Oh, did he?
Power bottom.
I think, honestly, I think it's top, and I don't even think it's a gay thing.
I think everything about his life is power and how he can exert power on people.
I think that's why watching people fuck someone is power.
It's like, I'm going to make you do this thing you don't even want to do and I'm going to watch and enjoy it.
That's why he loves a joker.
He wants to be the fucking joker, this agent of chaos.
I think it's both, bro.
You think he's a power bottom?
Centipede.
So it's like dick, then.
He's in somebody in him.
Fucking Sam.
Eiffel Tower.
Can I ask you a related question?
Jay-Z.
Oh, stop it.
If I'm hearing smoke of, I've been hearing smoke about Diddy.
That's why I believe the Cassie shit right away because we've all heard things about Diddy for a long time.
We never heard this shit.
I heard, we used to always make a joke.
Not we, I've heard the joke, Cassie's a hostage.
You hear little whispers in the city.
Remember we heard that we said that about Tom Cruise too with Katie Holmes.
I didn't think that I never heard of it.
I didn't think I was going to ever see a video like this.
I heard abuse whispers.
So I was thinking, yeah.
I heard gay.
I never heard more.
I always heard gay.
Gay nonstop.
And that was enough.
People are like.
That's because of Wendy Williams.
What'd you say?
That was Wendy.
Wendy's whole thing was Diddy was gay for instance the 90s.
I knew Wendy was an apology.
That's why Wendy got fired from 197.
Wendy got fired from Hot 97 by Diddy because that's when Bad Boy was smoking hot.
Wow.
And yeah, she got fired for putting that out there.
Do you think that Diddy held on to the gay rumors so that people didn't know what he really was?
Yeah.
Because that's the perfect smoke screen.
You'd rather people think you're gay than beat women.
By the way, here's the wild thing.
We still don't know what Diddy is.
I mean, we know bits and pieces.
This shit might be deeper than rap.
We don't know.
Like, this might be a whole rabbit hole.
You might be like, oh, shit.
Seeing this video.
That's what I was trying to get at this whole time.
That is their wildest story that came out of a lot of this shit.
And nobody gives a fuck.
Let's start.
What's the matter?
Pull it up, Carl.
I don't even want to repeat it.
Pull it up.
This shit sounds so crazy.
No, type in his name in Diddy.
But this is why I believe all the cassie allegations because of this video.
Because she describes this, what happened.
Oh, yeah.
Now it's like, I believe everything she said.
Yeah, yeah.
A thousand percent.
I'm not, I'm not.
This is horrifying.
Also, also, Diddy's bullshit at while you're getting that, Diddy's bullshit ass excuse, like, how he couldn't mention Cassie's name in the apology.
There's no rule you can't apologize.
Whoever?
I'm not laughing at that.
I'm laughing at this shit.
I'm laughing at this shit that's that market.
Yeah, also, you called her a liar like three days ago.
Yeah.
Like, shit the fuck out.
She said she was looking after for a quick buck.
You're a fucking scumbag.
And maybe this is more triggering for me because whatever, but like, that shit, I was like, why is this more triggering for you?
Carl Winslow Wild Story00:05:39
I grew up in a house.
I didn't see that ever, but I grew up in a house where there was abuse.
So it was like, you watch that, and this is way more extreme than anything I saw.
It's like, she's trying to sneak out of the fucking room.
He's dragging her by the hair.
He's not going to pimp my struggle.
I didn't see anything like that.
But watching that is like, yo, fuck this guy forever.
Did you ever try to intervene?
Yeah, I did one time.
You got your ass kicked?
No, we didn't do anything.
I just stood in his way and I didn't say a word.
I didn't even look at him, which I'm kind of like, I just got in his way.
And I remember thinking, if I have to, if this goes down, this goes down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all I remember.
I remember I was reading Will Smith's book, and he always said he felt bad because he never intervened.
So that was like, he said he felt like a coward.
You know, he never intervened watching his mother go through the abuse from his father.
But I think he said his brother did.
So a lot of that just makes you kind of think about everything that happened and everything that transpired with the slap and all of that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm going to stand up for myself finally.
You didn't play the clip?
I'm trying to find it.
It was right there.
I saw it.
Go back to the one.
Go back to the hip-hop DX one.
This is wild, bro.
I didn't see this shit.
Yo, this is crazy.
This was wild.
Like, I'm like, this is how you know too much is going on.
This shit is wild, but hilarious.
Keep it a buck.
No, that's not quiet.
And I don't know five shits.
How many the first one?
The first one was the worst one, and then the other ones I left early.
Okay.
The worst one was Carl's Winner.
Carl Winslow.
Busting the door, you didn't hear her?
No, because you know how me, I like to joke and play.
So nigga don't give a fuck.
So I'm just hearing like, like, I'm like, oh, somebody wearing this bitch out on the crap.
So I don't.
So I look up, I see Carls Wins.
I'm out.
Like, this is crazy.
Wow.
Wow.
Oh, crip.
You know, Carl Wins.
I think I'm the cop.
I'm nobody.
Yeah, but I just can't picture that big ass nigga bent though.
Why is that not being talked about more?
Son.
Like, yo.
I used to hear Carl Winslow's gay rumors too.
And then when you re-watch, he's a little risty with the acting.
But watching, yo, what type of madman are you?
You're watching Family Matters, and you're like, yo, I need that.
I got Carl Winslow.
Like, what the fuck?
You're Diddy.
You got access to so many people.
But that's your favorite.
He likes to be able to do that.
TV daddy Winslow, bro.
Bring up Carl Winslow so everybody knows what you're doing.
Watching him in that uniform got you bricked up.
Ken Nick Kayaski.
Are you a little proud that it was still a black man he was attracted to?
Black and black.
No.
What was Dr. Ramar, sir?
And then the wild part about the video, the homie said he was wearing them out.
Wearing him out on crib.
Wearing him out on crib.
On crib.
I had to kick in the door to see what the fuck was going on.
Who in here wearing this girl out like that?
God damn, man.
Damn, man.
There were some beautiful women on Family Matters, bro.
And he does the voice for that.
My dad.
Now I'm going to watch that show a little different.
Are we still alive?
Yeah.
Oh, God bless the dead.
I mean, God bless you.
Oh, I'm not thinking about that.
I know who I'm thinking about.
Who are you thinking about?
No.
But same difference.
Yo, this is wild.
This is wild.
Oh, James Avery.
You thought it was James Avery.
James Avery.
No, I knew it was him, but I just was getting confused for a second.
My whole point with this is: this is a wild story, yo.
So you know how wild your story's got to be throughout this whole shit where this one just gets swept under the rug?
Yeah.
Only person I saw repost this was, of course, 50.
50 didn't know this shit.
50 didn't miss this.
Shout out to 50 too, man.
Shout out, Phil.
You know what?
The inspiration for the video.
Oh, yeah.
What did he say?
What'd he say?
He said, what he said, your idea to use my idea was a good idea.
What was it?
Yeah, yeah.
What was that referencing?
The book, Get Honest or Die Line.
Get Rich or Die Trying.
No, I know it's a playoff for that, but that's what it was.
And he said something on Breakfast Club and then he posted a book.
50 always reposts my books, though.
So I salute the 5th.
Shout out to 5.
Then you commented that.
Oh, I'm paying.
You don't have any money about Monday.
What's Monday?
Listen, man.
If 5th needs me for something, I'm here.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all.
Like, you might need me to voice some commercials for something.
Like, he got a bunch of TV shows.
He got the studio in Louisiana.
It'll be fine.
I do love that he puts on Treeport.
That's why I basically grew up there.
You did?
I spent like half my year there.
My uncle and I lived out there, but I spent so many months in Shreveport.
Yo, why do Indians move to the most rural places in the South?
In that case, there's a need for doctors, and you can make a lot of money as a doctor.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Most of the Indians out there are really successful because if you went to Shreveport, Louisiana, you had a fucking reason.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I think a lot of times if you see Indians in kind of like small, this is just theory.
You small, kind of rural, not many migrants.
There's money that they're making.
You're not doing poorly.
Maybe Paula Shreveport made some money from natural gas living on that shale.
Oh, there's like a nice.
Yeah, the city split.
There's like a Bosier City.
Bozier City.
Shreveport's not that nice, though.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Maybe it got nice, but I think it was called Ratchet City.
What is his name?
Hurricane Chris is from there?
I-N-D-E-R.
Jack Harlow Rap Bangers00:04:49
No, man, that's fucking Webby.
Who's Hurricane Chris is from?
Hurricane Chris sings Holly Barry, Holly Barry.
There you go.
I'm a little bit of a bad boy.
Holly Barry.
It was like that at Columbia.
Columbia, South Carolina, had like a real heavy pocket of Indians.
That's where Z grew up.
Yeah.
Like me and my boy DJ.
His dad's the doctor, right?
The university.
Yeah, I imagine.
Yep.
Me and my boy Frosty used to always get paid to do the Indian books.
Huntsville, Alabama got a lot of Indians because there's a space center there or something like that.
Easiest crowd to e-bay.
Hey Baby.
I think hey Bay.
Who the fuck sing Holly Barry?
I don't remember.
Easiest part is the DJ.
You know why?
Yeah, I know why.
Why?
The Jay-Z song.
That's all they want to do.
That's all they want.
It don't matter.
Frosty was getting there trying to play some other shit.
I'll be talking.
Hey, man, let's get to it.
Fuck get this small talk.
Let's get the Poonja BMC.
This is it.
This is it.
And ours.
The one song over and over.
So please, you knew it.
You know what I mean?
It's Poonja BMC with Jay-Z.
Who didn't know that record?
Who didn't know that record?
It was unbelievable.
That one song all night long.
Now, dance, get drunk, have a good time.
Charlamagne, speaking of rap, there is a song that apparently you have done a cover of that's out there right now.
What song?
Apparently, you've done a cover of Grippy.
Nah.
Yeah.
Charla.
Charlotte.
Stop it.
We got to get rid of AI, bro.
We got to get rid of it.
Nah, don't deny.
You said that.
J. Cola referenced track.
I never even heard that record.
I mean, I heard of it because everybody was talking about how bad J. Cole verse was.
What did you think about that?
God damn.
You bricked up again.
It's crazy about me talking about what Johnny.
Y'all seen that song.
You need to shake it off.
Y'all make that with AI?
Yeah.
Nah.
Okay, we got to get rid of AI, bro.
Got to get rid of AI.
What did you think of J. Cole's comeback song?
I didn't even listen to it.
Same.
I didn't even hear it.
Yeah.
I heard of it.
I heard people saying how bad it was.
I didn't even listen to it.
Now, we have another song also that you've rapped on.
All right, let's hear it.
All right, Mark.
Oh, this one's a banger, bro.
You haven't heard this?
He's got a lot of radio play right now.
You know this one.
I've been a nasty girl.
Hey, let's go.
Yo, defunct AI, yo.
Hey, is somebody gonna match my nasty?
Is somebody gonna match my nasty head?
Deep fun.
Deep fun.
Wait till he starts singing, though.
That's scary.
That is scary because they nailed it.
Like, singing everybody.
And it's probably easier with us since we got thousands of hours.
That is scary, yo.
All right.
One more.
We got one more banger for you, bro.
We got one more banger.
This was an original.
Dude, we do a million dollar baby.
That's what I want.
This is a real one, though.
I'm sleeping well.
Look weak as hell.
Yo, that's scary as fuck.
Well, well, we gotta give credit because our boy Jake wrote it.
Yeah.
And then, oh, oh, oh, okay, okay.
So they basically, yeah, you could describe it, Mark.
So this dude is actually Jack, Jack Champ.
I thought it was Jake for long time.
Jack Harlow?
No.
No, this dude, Jack, he's a rapper.
And basically, what he's able to do is he raps the song with his voice.
Okay.
And then he takes your voice and then puts it on top of his voice so it sounds like you're rapping it.
Oh, I think his name is Jake.
It says in the email, Jack.
Maybe that's his rap name, but.
His name's, I think I fucked it up.
It's Jack.
I called him Jake day once.
I met him at the garden.
I said, yo, what's up, Jake?
He's probably so nervous.
You just did the garden.
Anyway, yo, don't ever be afraid to correct somebody when they say your name wrong.
My bad, Jack.
Shit.
Fuck Miles' fault.
That's my fucking Miles current.
Anyway, but no, he's nice with it.
So He wrote a couple, but this one's fire.
That shit fire as fuck.
AI Voice Impressions Fraud00:03:50
You sound good.
I'm just scared of this shit, yo.
I'm telling you.
Why are you going to get a bad boy deal?
No.
I'm going to say it was AI.
That's a world.
Somebody's going to use that to have a world leader set this shit off.
Yeah, that's possible.
It's only a matter of time.
That's possible.
Because that could just be something that can be broadcast over a social media platform if Kim Jong-un was going to kill him.
I bet you if you do that, you'll realize how much regulations they got on this shit.
Yeah, they got some.
I bet you if you do that, man.
Like have Putin or Kim Kim, what's his fucking name?
Kim Jong-un.
Yeah.
Or Xi Ji Ping.
Exactly the one from China.
If you have one of them say that it's a nuclear threat, I bet you your computer will fucking freeze up.
Yeah, explode.
Immediately.
I bet you.
But you can guarantee your advantage too.
Let's say you say something and they could say I. Y'all two years late.
I've been doing that.
That's what you're talking about.
There you go.
So it goes both ways.
I've been doing that.
Yeah.
That's your trick.
Say I.
I don't even think people care about.
You cannot care about old shit no more because of AI.
Thank God.
And that's what a relief.
Because you don't know.
And that's the other scary part about life, right?
If you got to navigate through every single thing that somebody puts on your table, like before I even determine what my opinion or feeling about it is, I got to figure out if it's real first.
Who got time?
Nah, don't have it.
I ain't got time.
So fuck it.
I don't even care.
That's dangerous.
What do you think happens with the legislation shit?
Because I saw that, I think Scarlett Johansson.
I don't know if she was suing or she was complaining that Chad Ganson.
She said her lawyers are looking into it.
Okay, they are.
So Chad GPT released the voice for their AI.
And it sounds like Scarlett Johansen.
It's in her, which is a movie where she voices an AI.
Right.
Yeah.
And I think even Sam Altman, the guy who runs Chad GPT, tweeted out her.
Now, they also engaged Scarlett Johanson's agents to see if they could use her voice.
And then they ended up not doing it.
I guess the point is like, and this is no different than anything else, right?
A new thing pops up and you have to find some legislation for it to protect people's intellectual property.
Yeah.
But she should be able to sue if they're using her IP.
But I wonder, what is the legality of impressions?
So apparently the woman that they got to do this, like their defense is they say, I know some people are saying it sounds like Scarlet Johansen.
She's saying that, yada, yada, but we hire a voice actress that happens to have a similar intonation from a similar region.
Dove, do you remember the radio commercial in California when we were going to school that was an impression?
It was like for some auto thing, but it was an impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger, an impression of, it was like three or four impressions, and it clearly wasn't those people, but an impression is using their voice.
Do you remember that?
What was it for?
I don't know.
I guess I remember hearing this on the radio going, how can they get away with this shit?
They're using somebody's likeness to promote a product that they're not getting compensated for.
So can you just do an impression of somebody?
And if you can do an impression of people, AI's impression is going to be perfect.
Yeah.
Is AI an impression, though?
I think parody you're allowed to do under parody movie.
Whoa, whoa, that's a great point.
Sorry.
Is AI is not an impression.
It is the actual synthesis of that person's voice, where parody is an impression.
So AI is fraud.
AI is identity theft.
Yeah.
That's why they took her voice down immediately.
Oh, so they stopped it?
Yeah.
I mean, they pulled it up.
Oh, as soon as Carla complained, they pulled it.
Oh, so that's an admission of guilt, but I still need some money for paying the damages.
Yeah.
No, for real.
Because you had people fucking asking me about shit that I didn't want to be asked about.
Like, seriously, people running up on me in the airport, asking me about whatever the fuck was on that commercial.
I don't know anything about it.
Interesting.
You know, and now I feel stupid.
I don't want to feel stupid.
So you made me put me in a position to feel stupid.
Ego Kills Confidence00:04:05
So I need some money for that.
That's reasonable.
Damn.
I don't see the problem.
Sue usher sue jacket.
No, no, no, no.
When I sue, I sue big.
No, for real.
Lawsuits are hard to win.
Lawsuits are not easy to win.
So if you're going to win them, you might as well get it.
You got to get it.
Yeah, because it's going to cost you money.
That's the thing people don't realize.
That's why I'd be so sad about this new generation of like broadcasters and everything because they're getting sued and stuff, not realizing.
In order for you to, if you get sued, you got to hire a lawyer to reply.
Oh, that shit costs money.
Oh, yeah.
Just hiring the lawyer.
It just, that process is crazy.
And what they don't realize is sometimes bigger people, like maybe yourself, others, have a lawyer on retainer.
So you're already paying them.
That's right.
And you want that guy to go to work.
I'm paying you every month.
If we're not suing anybody, I'm wasting money.
That's right.
You never know.
You never know when a lawsuit is brewing.
You never know.
You never know when you want to hit something up.
Or when you might hit somebody with it.
That's right.
You never know.
That's right.
And the laws are fucked up now just because like they better save up.
You don't need a some people don't even need a lawyer to file a suit.
And we live in an era.
That's what that's what a lot of these cases are, right?
Because what happens in a lot of these cases, these lawyers go to people and these lawyers say, hey, if you don't pay us X amount of dollars, we're going to go to the press with this story.
Yeah, exactly.
And so now you got a lot of people that are like, man, I don't give a fuck.
That shit going to last.
That shit going to be in the news cycle 12 hours anyway.
Whatever.
Go do your thing.
We'll fight it in court.
But then you have some people who be like, I don't even want that shit to get out of the room, my reputation, blah, blah, blah, this and that.
And so they'll pay it off.
I'm curious.
Why do you think Diddy went so hard to not settle with Cassie earlier?
Like, why did he actually allow to get that ego?
Yeah.
Ego.
Ego.
He got away with it for decades.
Decades.
You start knowing that.
But knowing the evidence that's out there.
You start to believe you're invincible.
And the delusion.
Think about getting away with that for 20 years.
OJ killed his wife after beating her like 20 times.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
No, he did beat her like 20 times.
But then allegedly killed her.
He allegedly killed her.
Allegedly.
Yeah, I think the thing with Diddy is like, yeah, it's ego.
And if you think that you have this type of control over a person, you don't think that person would ever play with you.
You think that you put enough fear of God in this person or enough fear of Siroc.
I don't fucking know.
Just enough fear of something to where this person would never cross you in that way, shape, or form.
But no, this young lady went, found her a new man who I'm sure empowered her in different ways, poured into her, gave her that confidence and that scrimp she needed.
And I'm not just giving all the credit to the man, but that helped.
I like that.
But I'm sure that helped.
And she said, fuck it.
You know, now let's do it.
Why do you think he was so fearless?
Because there's a lot of reasons to say that.
I don't think he was.
We don't.
See, that's the thing.
We think he was fearless.
That motherfucker probably was shaking in his boots at home.
We don't know.
You know what?
I was wondering if Diddy was scared to go after him because he's white.
Because he's blowing up Kid Cuddy's car for trying to go on a date with Cassie.
Allegedly.
Blowing up.
Yo, I'll blow up your fucking car.
You're famous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think there might have been so much fear just like he's a white dude.
This will be a different thing.
Maybe.
Because he seemingly unscathed.
No cars got blown up of his.
His Toyota Yaris didn't take a fucking year.
Or maybe he's not easily accessible like a Kid Cuddy would be.
You know, our Kid Cuddies.
I've been wondering about that.
This guy stood up in the face of a lot of fear.
And I do give credit for that.
He never gave a fuck, but also he was in love.
You in love, man.
You're going to ride for your woman.
The same way he probably gave Cassie confidence.
Cassie probably gave the husband mad confidence too.
And we don't know the husband.
That was probably who never gave a fuck anyway.
Fuck y'all.
Didn't he scared of you niggas?
Diddy might not have been.
Literally.
Diddy might not have been like as concerned with public perception of some random white dude dating Cassie.
But he might be concerned.
That seems disrespectful.
That seems like it cuts at my power.
My ex is dating this other rapper.
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That's valid.
And I think those types of people, the sociopaths, they can only really think about themselves and the power that they're exerting around them.
And if it looks as if someone's chipping away at that power in any way, they're like, fuck you.
You got to go down.
The scariest part about that shit is the fact to what we've been saying in the old pod is like that he just was lying up until the day before the video came.
These people are crazy.
Like if I knew that there was a video out there that existed of me doing some shit like that, I couldn't lie to myself.
Bro, I'll just shut the fuck up.
There's a... I guess you're duddy was safe to own the video.
Yeah.
Well, he didn't know there was another copy.
So there's a video of Diddy.
He don't like pairs, does he?
He only had on one sock.
He thought it was one video.
He didn't realize it was a whole other fucking video on it.
Jesus Christ.
There's a video of Diddy that I look at completely different now, but it's the video of him.
He makes a deal.
He's in some shitty office.
And then he slams the phone down.
He goes, I cannot be stopped.
Have you seen that video?
We all know this video.
And I look at that completely different now.
How do you look at it now?
Just, I am an absolute tyrant.
And I thrive so much off of conquest.
Conquest.
And this is evidence of a conquest, and it is fueling every fiber of his being.
I agree with that.
But it goes back to the same thing I said about Kanye.
Those same things that make people great also make them fucked up and evil if you don't have it in check.
It's the fire.
The fire can be a furnace that destroys your whole building or destroy it.
That's right.
Like you got to have that shit in check.
Like you got to have your ego in check because that shit can go either way.
You can have this shit fuel you to greatness or it can be the thing that causes you to ultimately self-destruct.
That's why whatever it is that you're great at, whatever that energy is, whatever that gift is, you always got to make sure you're constantly using it for good because you can flip it in two seconds and use it for the foulest shit.
How have you stayed humble?
How have you checked your success?
And what's the process to get there?
Success is not the...
Check your ego.
Check your ego that needs to be checked into your success.
It's a constant.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's something you have to constantly do.
It's not something that happens to you once.
If you're lucky, it happens to you one time and you reel it in.
I think mine is just knowing that all of this shit can be over.
Like, this shit ain't, none of this shit is guaranteed.
Like, think about all these people that we're talking about had way more than we have currently.
Not saying that we're not going to get there, but anybody's legacy can be burned down.
Any powerful dictator can be touched.
And by the way, it ain't even, any tyrant can be touched.
And it's not even always somebody taking you out.
You're not exempt to disease.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, anything can happen to you.
So I constantly just think about, number one, losing it all.
Number two, honestly, I still think about what's after this.
I'm not one of these people who's just like, YOLO, fuck it.
We on Earth.
After here, it's over.
My mindset is still, there still might be something after this.
And you want to be good for it.
And I want to be good for that just in case.
There's too much stories out there of there being an afterlife and what comes after this for some of this not to be true.
And how about this?
I don't want to keep repeating my shit here.
I did Earth once.
I'm cool.
Let's go to another dimension.
You think once?
Maybe you come back more.
Maybe, maybe.
Maybe because I haven't figured out the lesson yet.
So maybe this is the life where I'm like, you know what?
I finally figured it out.
I've done what I came to do here.
It's on to the next dimension.
So that's literally my mindset all the time.
Yeah.
Have you talked about your ayahuasca experience?
Publicly.
Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
He said, what's up, too, by the way?
Oh, where?
Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
I mean, that's actually where, like, I was writing this book, but it was day two of my ayahuasca experience that made me have a revelation.
And it was stop lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lies to other people.
Because we all wake up every day and we throw on a mask, right?
Like, and sometimes you don't even mean to.
You just do it because gets you through the day.
It gets you through the motherfucking day.
So to walk around without the mask, to walk around without any sort of armor, to always be your vulnerable, authentic self, that's hard, bro.
That's difficult.
But like day two of my ayahuasca journey, that came up.
And then that's when everything just started to flood in.
Like, yo, get honest or die lying.
Like, like, cause I kept saying, I kept saying truth or die.
Like, it was like travel die with truth or die.
Like, and then it just started rolling in, get on us or die line, get on us to die line, get on us to die line.
And I realized that's what my journey has been throughout my whole life.
Trying to show up and be the most authentic, honest version of myself as possible.
But what happens is you end up being real with everybody else except for yourself.
Because it's easy to do.
It's easy to tell you your haircut's fucked up.
Thank you.
I'm not saying your haircut's fucked up.
It's easy to tell somebody else.
No, I'm just saying, I was just looking at them.
It's easy.
Don't, don't.
No.
Go ahead.
It's easy to call Alex gay.
Yes.
But have you explored your possible gayness?
No.
I'm just using these as examples.
No, I'm just using these as examples.
The point is, it's easy to point out what you see in other people, but it's hard to look in that mirror and point out your own.
Do you see homosexuality in Alex?
While you were on ayahuasca, did you?
Alex didn't come up for me.
He didn't come up for me.
But that's the, I'm telling you, ayahuasca.
It is an amazing thing because anything that you've ever suppressed in your life, that's coming up.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
So what'd you see?
My God.
I want to know what you saw.
What happened?
Diver CEO title?
Yeah.
I was trying to remember the title.
I did, though.
Probably.
A lot of that did come up.
A lot of that did come up.
Can you tell us?
Come on.
You talked to Jay about it.
No, I didn't talk to Jay too much about it.
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Oh, okay.
Yeah, I gave him enough.
The interesting thing, this just all happened in February.
So it's still a lot to process.
Got it.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm taking time with it.
You might have already spoken about this if you have.
I'm sorry.
What made you start the, was there like a tipping point where you're like, yo, I need to start a journey of mental health, bettering myself, et cetera?
Or did it just kind of happen naturally?
Yeah, 2016.
I mean, I feel this, I've always been on that journey.
It's when you veer off.
It's when you're not being you.
It's when you're doing things that you know aren't you.
I was losing, I was losing myself to this industry shit.
That's what I was losing myself to.
You know what I mean?
And I mean, not losing it to where I would show up to a ditty party, but losing it to where it's just like, yo, I don't even move like this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's not even my style.
So it's like, that's what really got me on the journey of saying, yo, I got to figure this out.
Plus dealing with the anxiety and the depression and finally having some money and knowing what it was.
I never knew what it was before.
So now knowing what it was and having the language for it and knowing other people who was going to therapy and shit, that's what started me on my, on my healing journey.
Because I remember going to therapy being a big decision.
You remember being like, all right, I'm finally getting in.
Yeah.
For me, it was, I'm with my girl.
I love this girl.
I keep getting in these big fights.
It keeps fucking things up.
I got to start working on this.
That's right.
So I'm curious if there's anything for you where it's not going to be.
No, it was like the same thing.
You know, I was fucking up my household.
Yeah.
And I just wasn't happy.
Yeah.
Like genuinely short.
He got everything.
He got every fucking thing.
Genuinely just was not happy.
That's why this weekend was so crazy because I'm like, yo, I'm having a crazy ass panic attack and I'm depressed.
And I have no reason to feel like this.
I was like, you know what?
I am retarded.
I totally understand.
You're worried about that fucking class.
You're worried about that book coming out.
You release it.
It was actually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the most vulnerable.
When I called my therapist Sunday, what did he say?
He did say that to me.
I wrote it down.
He said, anxiety comes with doing new things.
It's unhuman for it not to be, which I knew already.
But this panic attack Saturday was crazy.
Where was it?
I was at home.
Well, watching what?
What the fuck was I watching?
We were watching something on TV because I kept going under the covers.
What the fuck was I watching?
Can you not laugh?
Like, I want to be there for you, but that shit is super gay.
You and your wife watching something on TV and you running under the cover.
You know what's so funny?
I was on the couch.
And his wife's like, don't worry, you'll be all right.
I took three Tyson bites.
I should have only took one.
Oh, yeah.
That's the part I didn't miss.
Yeah.
And I think they were sativa and not.
So you had your brain.
Oh, my God.
And you got this big thing underneath all of that.
Oh, my God.
The only reason I took three of them is because there was two left.
It was like two and a half.
So it was like 10 milligrams apiece.
So it was like 25 milligrams and I just pop.
And I'm like, what the fuck is happening right now?
Yeah, you had a panic attack from marijuana.
Stay off the bus.
I did.
Yeah.
Okay, listen.
Before we get out of here.
I'm sorry.
I know.
There's a lot of people out there probably was relating with me and like, oh, I had one.
I was on the cover too.
This is a drug addict.
You're a high on.
Okay, before we get out of here.
Oh, hold on.
That's a bar too, my therapist told me.
What?
Because you said addicts.
He said, always remember, because I was talking about the people that, you know, I hadn't even seen no comments or anything.
He said, always remember that the people on TV and social media are addicted to attention.
People in the comments are addicted to attention.
And we don't listen to people behaving from the perspective of addicts.
Oh, fuck.
That's fire.
Strange.
That's fire.
He said, we don't listen to people behaving from the perspective of addicts.
And it's fire.
And if we treated them like crackheads, all of a sudden we could laugh at their behavior a little bit.
That's right.
Now, mind you, growing up, there's definitely crackheads that I learned from, right?
But I learned what not to do.
So it's the same thing.
Why are we listening to these people who don't have their shit figured out?
We don't listen to people who speak from the perspective of addicts.
That's fire.
Yeah.
Now, listen, there's a chapter nine in your book before we leave.
Yes.
Can I do one question before?
Yes, please.
How many more years of the breakfast club?
Ooh.
Ooh, the hard hits.
Great questions.
I don't know.
I mean, you really don't know.
Like, you die.
How many more years you want to do it?
I got a number.
I definitely got, I personally have a number, but it's not even just breakfast club.
It's just being talent, period.
Is that a financial number?
Is that a year?
No, no, no, no.
It's not a financial number.
It's just like I like being behind the scenes a lot more nowadays.
I remember you telling me that at MSG, and that was interesting.
Is that what you see yourself transitioning to after you get out?
It's just.
Yeah, I'm doing that now.
Like, I mean, I'm full-time.
Yeah, I'm executive producer, and I got my own book in print where we putting out other people's books.
Me and Kevin Hart got the company SBH Productions with Audible.
We're executive producing all of that.
Audio's cryptic content that's going to turn into documentaries and movies and stuff in the future.
I'm getting in the movie game in a real, a real way.
Like that.
What was that movie you did?
88.
Yeah, that's a political thriller.
But I got another movie play that's going to be a little bit more.
What do you want to talk about that?
Not yet.
What do you like more about being behind the scenes?
Empowering other people.
Watching other people get their shit off.
Watching other people become, you know, these great entities that people.
So you enjoy Wild and Fuck With.
I love that.
Yeah.
No, I don't.
Andrew.
I feel a Diddy Joe.
I feel it.
I can tell you.
I never talked to you.
I'm just saying you enjoy wild shit.
What do you feel?
I know you said it felt diddy.
Like, what do you feel?
What do you feel?
Guys, this has been flagrant.
Make sure you go out and get Get Honest with Dialion.
Charlie Manny.
Charlie sucks.
Go get it right now.
We love you, brother.
We appreciate you too, man.
Thank you so much for all the game over here, sir.
Everything is shared.
My copy.
And you're the fucking man.
We're going out there flagrant.
Asshole Army.
Go grab this book.
You can get it digitally.
You did the reading for it as well.
I did the Charlotte Mann's voice.
Mad people be running up on me going, asshole army.
Gang.
I'd be like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
It's a Diddy Party saying right there.
You know what's crazy?
I'll be having to explain it to people.
So if you're in the airport and somebody just wants to do asshole army, and it's like an old white lady you've been talking to, she's like, oh, what is that?
You're like, oh, nah, my man got a podcast with the asshole.