Tim Dillon and Andrew Schulz dissect billionaire excess, critiquing George Soros's DEI policies and the Koch brothers' labor exploitation while labeling Baby Boomers a selfish generation that ruined civic virtue. They analyze Tucker Carlson's dominance over Putin, the CIA's alleged role in Navalny's death, and Shane Gillis's SNL monologue addressing Down syndrome. The hosts argue that foreign oligarchs own American culture to maintain domestic unity against Russia or China, ultimately suggesting WWII roots lie in post-war betrayals rather than simple aggression. [Automatically generated summary]
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Fat Fucks and Woodstock Lies00:02:35
They used to call us fat f ⁇ ks.
My friend's mother, Barbara.
She's older.
14.
She rode on the window of her Saturn.
She's smoking a cigarette and she'd go, where are you, fat f ⁇ ?
It really exposes the lie of the Woodstock generation.
We see them as this progressive, free-loving, they were just selfish drug addicts.
I think Obama is probably bisexual.
And then Tucker went around Moscow making like YouTube videos.
It's weird to be a 50-year-old YouTuber.
He's making Milkboy-style videos in a grocery store.
I think it's a great story.
I think people are supporting Shane.
He did an amazing job.
If the boomers can be explained in one sentence, it's a woman sitting down drinking a coffee going, the Irish were slaves.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
Today we are joined by an illustrious guest.
It's amazing that he's even here right now.
There's been a tragic death in the family.
Lord Jacob Rothschild has died, but Tim Dylan is still here.
How?
How did you pull through?
Well, you know, when someone has an impact on you, as he did, he made a huge impact on me and my family.
You know, you want them to be at peace.
Yeah.
And, you know, he suffered a long time.
Like 87 years of suffering.
You know, it was 87 years, and he finally escaped his human form.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He transcended.
He went back to, you know, he went back to the core of the earth where he lived.
Do you think he went down?
I think he's in there.
I think he spends some time in the center to just kind of work things out.
Yeah, work things out.
But not straight up.
He's not going straight up.
No, I don't know if he's going up at all.
No, really?
I don't know if he wants to be up.
He wants to be up.
No.
The family reunion's downstairs.
Yeah, it's the core.
There's a molten core where Lord Jacob Rothschild is just kind of sitting there now.
Who is this guy?
Very wealthy, you know, member of one of the most famous and talked about fixed families of all time.
But was he like a major player?
Was he just a Trust Fun kid that kind of...
Oh, he's a player.
I mean, they're very, very good at keeping their name kind of out of the press.
So, I mean, you know, what he did or didn't do or how powerful any people are in that family, you know, you kind of have to guess because there's a lot of, you know, websites that will tell you that everything, every stoplight is them.
Yeah, yeah, going on and the weather.
And all in Taylor Swift and the Super Bowl and all of it.
Billion Dollar House Chaos00:04:07
I mean, I'm sure.
It just, because a lot of it is silly.
Yeah.
But they are incredibly powerful and they're very good at keeping themselves kind of in the background of the photo.
So in the photo, there's like people that we all know, the leaders of countries and everything.
And in the background, it's kind of, you know, they're off to the side, but they're there.
Yeah.
They're hanging.
Yeah.
They're interesting.
Tim, I'm really excited you're here because I feel like there is a problem.
And I feel like with the Rothschilds.
Okay.
Well, not just the Rothschilds.
Glad that's why I was brunching.
It's not just the Rothschilds.
Yeah.
It's that like, I feel now, more than any time in history, there's been a lot of negativity towards the 1% and the billionaire.
Yeah.
And what can we do to change that?
Well, I would say they have, I agree with you.
What is this?
First of all, why is this a thousand percent?
It's not their fault.
Number one.
It's going to be not.
It's really not their fault.
Excitement right now.
And it's not their fault because it, you know, I think they could take it down a notch.
Could they?
Well, yeah, because a little bit, I say to them, I go if I'm on Ink, doing the event.
Don't publicize every space mission.
You know what I mean?
Do some sneaky ones.
Do the one late at night.
Yeah.
The boys.
We're going up at night.
Have everybody in Santa Barbara.
It's aliens.
It's aliens.
It's fun.
Think when you start calling the press and going, here's my spaceship, people start to get out.
They don't like it.
There's a guy right now, Ken Griffin.
Yes, Ken.
Citadel, is that Ken?
Citadel.
Yeah.
He's building right now, and this is too much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to tell you, tell you what.
A billion-dollar house in Palm Beach.
I love Palm Beach.
I know.
$1 billion.
$1 billion.
By the way, and here's why it's too much.
It's for his mother.
He thought he was going to get away with it.
That shit's just dead shoot.
He's moving right in.
It's too much.
To say those words, I'm spending a billion dollars to build the most expensive house in the world.
Yeah.
And then it's all for mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is going to get people to.
Did he think that that was a good enough shield to provide?
Maybe he thought that was chaos.
I think he was trying to sound sweet.
Yeah.
And he's saying, like, if you had this, wouldn't you build a billion-dollar house for his mother?
Let's just answer the question right now.
Yeah.
Right.
Not at all.
But you guys got to love your mother.
Are you spending a billion dollars?
My mother would ruin a billion-dollar house with hess trucks and beanie babies.
Collectible.
The worst.
My mother would do anything I bought her, she would destroy it with knickknacks and chat peas and that's the reason.
Oh, the worst.
Yeah, yeah.
She's just.
She's the node globes she stole from a hotel in Vegas are now littered all over a Palm Beach.
She's like hoodie.
So you think the billionaires are going too far?
They're flexing on the gram a little bit too much.
If it was 900 million, it's not a problem.
I think it's, I think actually, maybe almost because that B is a line in the sand.
It's saying, like, I think it's, he wants one bill.
He's doing it.
It's $1 billion.
It is a billion dollars.
It's a billion dollars.
So that in and of itself makes people go.
It's like that first episode of Billions where they tell Bobby Oxrod, they go, just don't buy the house.
And he's like, I'm buying.
And he goes, I'm going to buy the house.
So I get it.
Somebody told him.
Somebody went to him and went, hey, don't do it.
There's a few billionaires talk and they're like, hey, man, I get it.
I get it.
He already owns the most expensive apartment in New York City.
He was the Wall Street Bets guy, right, that they were betting against.
Was that his father?
He was one of them.
There was a guy who, I think Citadel owned Robinhood and he was using data from Robinhood to make trades at his hedge funds there to go.
So he was like beating the trains that he was taking.
It's kind of a genius fucking thing to do.
He's a smart guy.
But I think a few people were probably that came in.
Don't do this.
It's a billion dollars for a single family house.
That's crazy.
On an island where the average price of a house is probably north of 10, 15 million, meaning these are all very rich people already.
And you're being gross.
Yeah.
They're looking at you like you're an asshole.
Yeah.
Mike's Genius Billion Dollar Mistake00:13:06
Do you know how, like, because every time we hang out, you'll tell me a hilarious story of these people you've collected in your life.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you have an absolutely mind-boggling friend group.
There's, yes, yes.
They are mind.
Their minds are boggled.
Yeah, yes.
So when you're interacting with some of these people, are they like expecting you to keep it real with them?
Are you brought there to be like, no, he's going to be on?
Never.
What do you mean?
Never, ever, ever.
So you go right along with it all.
The most fun thing about a lot of people in my life is that they're mentally ill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And many of them.
In your comfort zone, is that?
Yeah, I mean, they're crazy.
And my mother was crazy when I grew up.
So I would never try to bring a crazy person down to earth.
It defeats the purpose.
It's not fun.
It's actually not fun.
You want to be hanging out with Donald Trump and going like, but you know.
Take it off a little.
I mean, maybe that doesn't make sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would ruin the whole thing.
You're just along for the ride.
There's a point when the ride isn't fun anymore and you've got to get off the ride.
When does that happen?
Well, things can turn dark.
Okay, like what?
You know, people can just like, you know, go from fun crazy to not fun crazy.
Where, you know, I have friends that moved down to Florida and they got very into like, you know, they're very political.
Some of them went really hard right wing.
Yeah, yeah.
They go to Mar-Lago all the time.
Yeah.
And their brains have just melted.
You know, I'm not a guy that cares what anyone feels.
They're drinking the Kool-Aid a little too much.
They're just every conversation.
They're become their entire identity.
Every conversation is politics and like, do you know what's going on?
Oh, it's talking about days.
Yeah, I can't believe it.
And, you know, and it's just kind of like, guys, there's more to life.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
There's a little more to life.
Even though they're right.
But yeah.
Well, you know what it is?
They're having fun.
They're having such a good time.
Yeah.
That's why the Capitol Riot is clearly wrong, but they're having so much fun.
Are you not going to go in there?
They've never had that much fun.
They're smiling.
They're laughing.
They probably, many of them, you know, they don't get out a lot.
This is a new experience.
This is all rioting on the lights.
It's March Madness.
Have you seen an underdog team storm the court after a victory?
Right.
That's January 6th.
Yeah.
You couldn't believe it.
Wait, we actually got in.
No, they're in, they're having fun.
They're taking selfies.
Yeah.
It's all rioting and looting the Apple store.
Like, how fun is that?
Yeah.
You know what?
Here's the issue with that.
Those are black people.
Yeah, it's the skin color.
The left-wing rioters don't look, they don't look like they're having fun.
I date them.
They look like they're having fun.
No, they're scared.
They're in masks and everything.
These people in the Capitol are there.
They get their feet up on Belosi's desk.
They've got fur.
They've got hats.
It's a parade.
Now, I'm not saying it's right.
It's not right.
It's not good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if we're just looking at the degree of fun, white people know how to do it.
They seem like they're having a lot of fun because they believe they're not going to get in trouble.
Why would they?
They go, This is my country.
It's my that was their thought process.
They're like, This is my country.
I'm not doing it in Russia.
I'm in America.
This is my congresswoman.
I can chase her into the bathroom.
It's my congresswoman.
Why can't I chase her?
We need to have more entitlements.
Yeah.
Do you know AOC was at a Matt Rife show?
No way.
She was at Radio City.
I thought that was Lisa Ann that got kicked out.
No, it was AOC on his AOC.
Get out of here.
But no, she was at a Matt Rife show.
And had a go at Radio City.
You think he took that down?
I don't know.
Well, she dates some pasty bearded dudes.
You know, for sure.
But I think that's part of the leftist cred.
Which is dating a pasty guy.
Dating down.
Dating a guy who is intellectually exciting to your group.
Oh, see, I would think she needs to go because everything is on like some hierarchy of socioeconomic perspective or whatever.
So I would think she needs to date like a black dude who transitioned.
No.
No, she's into minority enough.
She's minority enough.
Exactly.
So now she just dates this guy who rewards her ideas.
Brooklyn Socialist, PBR.
That's every comic from 2008 to 2015.
That's every comedian that was on television, that was doing a show in Brooklyn, that would get up and do a joke about his parents being racist.
That's bootleg Prince Harry, right there.
Yeah, she's just going through this.
This guy just finished a set of UCB gut bucket.
Okay, so AOC, what happened?
I mean, the Democrats basically told her to be quiet, right?
She's been real.
Well, they got a real issue with the Israel Gaza thing.
And I think they're just trying to like, they're trying to, you know, it's like a company where they're trying to like get everyone on the same page and they can't call.
Yeah.
And they're like, hey, everybody, we could break room.
You know, if you've ever worked at a company where they're like, you know, that article came out about us.
You know, we have challenges, but I won't touch the mic again.
Have challenges, but we're going to overcome them together.
And what we need everybody to do is just, you know, all those things.
They'll be like, you know, it's all hands on deck.
Yeah.
No, we're just all going to give it up.
You know, so I think that's what the Democrats are doing.
They're trying to control their narrative and the voting base is climbing.
They're fractured.
Fractured big time.
They're really fractured.
So I think the whole convention I said on my show has to just be songs and no talking.
Kill song.
They just got to go Christian church.
Yes.
Whatever it is, they have to just do like a big musical review.
And then like every time somebody goes, free Palestine, you go, boom, and then they just, you know, people get in the song.
Guitars, drums, or guns.
Because you're not going to get everyone on the same page.
You have to distract people from this question.
Here's the thing that I've seen popping up, and I didn't expect this, that now people are attacking Biden for having too much hubris.
Interesting.
You haven't seen this at all?
They're like, he refuses to step down.
It's his ego, his arrogance.
Like, yeah, I don't think he wants to be there at all.
No, I think he's a boomer, and he's an old guy.
He's maybe even older than a boomer.
He's definitely older than a boomer.
But it's just part of that ethos of like, he doesn't.
I don't think he's like half in, half out.
I don't think he's ever done anything.
Yeah, I think he's just kind of there.
And I think the wife and the people around him are using him.
And I think they don't want to step down.
Oh, really?
People that are using him.
So handlers don't want.
The wizard of Oz behind Biden that's making the things go and his hands go.
The puppeteers, they don't want to.
Shitty puppeteer for as much as Biden is.
It's not Biden.
It's the people behind him that don't want to shoot.
But who are they?
These are people that...
Is that DNC?
Well, maybe it's part of the DNC, but I think it's a lot of people like Tony Blinken at the State Department, Victoria Newland at the State Department, the people whose worldview is kind of front and center right now.
And I think those people like the idea that Biden is kind of doing everything they want in the Ukraine and Israel and places like that.
And I think they push back at all.
None.
So I think they don't want to.
They really don't want to leave the stage.
And then the people, of course, behind them don't want them to leave and all of that.
Okay, so you have him locked in.
All right.
So then what happens with the election?
You think Biden goes through it?
I think they yank him in May.
I'm going to make a prediction.
Yeah, really?
Give us a big prediction right now.
And I think they run Michelle Obama as Big Mike.
Big Mike!
As a man.
Big Mike is back.
As Big Mike, because it's...
The paddleboard instructor from Martha's Vineyard.
Well, Big Mike is back.
Big Mike is back.
It dominates the news.
Trump can't get any coverage.
He's screaming.
Alex is squirming.
He's yelling.
But because it's a way to.
There's only one way to.
What is it?
A matcha latte?
I mean, I'm just saying you have to.
You have to do that.
You got to run Big Mike.
Oof.
Yeah.
Who have to do that.
I did a slip up there.
I did all this stuff.
No, but do you think Big Mike...
Al, do you think Big Mike?
Remember to paddle surfer, guys.
That can happen.
But do you think that Big Mike could win?
Michael Jordan?
Do you think Michelle Obama?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
She's there.
I think she, in all seriousness, I don't think she wants to do it.
I think they've approached her multiple times.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't think she wants to do it.
And they'll just keep killing people around her until she succumbs.
I think.
I mean, they killed the paddleboarder, right?
I think he was...
I've always believed.
Yeah, what have you always believed?
I think Obama is probably bisexual.
I think the paddleboarder is a really hot-ripped chef.
I'm just saying if I was a ripped paddleboarder and was kind of reportedly writing a book that might have been loosely based on smoking out your husband.
You know, you know, maybe I would also drown in two feet of water, two feet outside of my boss's estate, which I was using when he wasn't home, which never was.
That's kind of weird that your chef would do that.
Got to be really close to yourself.
Does your maid call you and go, can I use the apartment when you're on the road?
All the time.
Yeah, you got the Twilight.
Come on in.
We're a family.
Absolutely.
Come on in.
I'm on the road.
I'm in Abu Dhabi.
Get in the oven.
Get in there.
It's interesting that he's using the estate when you're not there.
Yeah, peculiar.
And he dies.
I'm not saying, I just think maybe sometimes.
If you're going to use the estate and write a book about how you're fucking me, you deserve to die.
Maybe that's too much.
That's too much.
I don't know.
But isn't that too much?
It might be.
Like, if you're going to be well, that's not beard.
Beard is when.
Beard is what's the woman who's pretending she's.
Also, also, if you're going to kill him, wouldn't you wait until he's somewhere else?
Like, I'm not going to kill you anywhere near.
They never do.
You'd always think that.
They never do.
They don't give a fuck.
It's impulse.
It's fun.
I think a little bit is you got to have a little fun.
Yeah.
I really do.
You think they need to spice it up for themselves?
I think they're basically just like, you know.
We'll kill JFK.
You think we can get away with yourself?
And here's the thing.
That's where you want to kill him.
If they kill him.
You want to kill him in Martha's Vineyard because that's where you live.
That's where you know the cops.
That's where you have all your friends.
Yeah.
Nobody's around your estate.
You know where all the cameras are.
You know where everything is.
Home court advantage.
Yes.
You get rid of them in a lake.
If they did it.
I don't know if they did it.
Of course not.
Don't tell me like, well, you're definitive.
Somebody's going to tell you fucking secrets.
There's somebody telling you shit.
But maybe they did it.
And if they did it, I don't blame them.
I would have done it.
And I have no problem with it.
What's your kill list?
Oh, my God.
I mean, I don't, unfortunately, and it's sad I don't even have one.
No.
I'm not there yet.
Oh, there's much more I have to do before I get a kill list.
Is there a number of people?
That are real enemies.
Yeah.
A blogger gets mad at something I say and writes a nasty article.
That's not a that you don't kill that person.
Yeah, it also comes with like a level of power.
You have to get that power.
Yeah.
Wealth and fame are things we understand in America.
We don't really understand power.
Yeah.
And they understand power more in like Russia, countries like that where it's kind of used like that.
But yeah, I think that's the goal.
You know, fingers crossed, we're getting killed.
Okay, okay.
You know, so I'm just at breakfast writing it and catch up.
You know, is it in catch-up?
America.
You beautiful border blocking, embryo stocking.
Swift, simp, poo and pimping.
Jesus Christ, superstars.
I want more.
Aw, sweetheart, do you want to tell everyone where daddy's going on tour?
I'm not calling you daddy.
It's embarrassing enough.
Sorry, guys.
Sometimes she gets a little cranky when she has the need.
Why don't you try that again?
Can you tell everybody where daddy's going on tour?
No.
Okay, maybe if I get that schmutz off your face, then you'll be able to have.
No, I'll tell you, okay.
He's going to Vancouver, he's going to Seattle, Vegas, and many more cities.
Just check.
God!
Hey, hey.
How's fatherhood?
Sebi.
Also, guys, dates.
First of all, thank you to Oklahoma City.
Sales were dog shit.
And then all of a sudden, we sold out at least one show.
We almost sold out two others.
That was fucking so cool.
And you guys were so great.
And it's honestly a great city.
So shout out to Oklahoma City.
Now, this weekend, I'm going to be in Greensboro, North Carolina, March 1st and 2nd.
Oklahoma City Show Sellout00:10:08
March 8th and 9th, I'm going to be in Stanford, Connecticut.
That's right before something very big is coming that you will find out about soon.
Also, Dania Beach, because of that, something I have to shift dates around.
I'm sorry.
It will only be March 16th.
So we are only doing shows on Saturday.
I apologize, but I needed to tell you guys first.
April 11th through 13th, I'm going to be in Tempe, Arizona.
April 18th through 20th, I'm going to be in Denver, Colorado.
May 10th, Los Angeles, improv.
Netflix is a joke fest.
Sold out the first show.
We added a second.
Y'all should probably sell that out now.
I don't even know if we posted the link, quite frankly.
Y'all are still buying tickets, but it's fucking cool.
Sell out Sing on the motherfucking way if we're lucky.
AkashSing.com for tickets.
Let's get back to the show.
Is it hypocritical at all?
And of course not.
Yeah.
For Americans to be outraged that this Navalny guy could be clearly killed and act shocked by it as if we've never murdered in cold well.
We don't know what's going on.
So what's weird about that?
There's no reason for Putin to kill Navalny.
This is very interesting, actually.
I have a little conspiracy on this.
Okay.
What if we took him out?
Well, that would make there's so much more of a reason for us to take him out.
Because Putin was looking like a darling in our media.
First of all, Navalny's not that popular in Russia.
This is the thing.
He's been gone for many, you know, he was arrested when he came back to the country.
He was in this Arctic prison, this polar wolf prison.
He's not in any position to come out and run in an election and defeat Putin.
He's not a threat in any way.
In any way.
I'm not saying he wasn't killed.
Navalny's also pissed off every oligarch in Russia by flying drones over their house and going, look what they bought.
So the list of people that want to get rid of Navalny is a lot.
I don't know what reason Putin had to kill him.
That doesn't mean I'm obviously not in the prison.
I don't know.
But he wasn't a huge threat to Putin.
If, and I don't know if the CIA did it either, but if we did it because the Ukraine aid was stalled and we said, now's go time.
We get rid of him.
It makes Putin look like a monster.
It unites Europe.
Yeah.
We can kind of push this aid package through.
It would be cool.
I want to know that they're doing cool things.
We used to do cool shit.
We used to do cool things.
Kill foreign leaders, change governments.
You know, these people are not crying about Navalny.
They don't care.
Yeah.
Navalny was a brave guy, but he was also a guy that started his career writing incredibly negative stuff about Jews and homosexuals.
You don't say.
Yeah, he was very like, he was very like Russian nationalist guy.
Then the West started getting interested in him.
He changed his tune right away.
Right away.
Starts going, no, Let's stop all of that.
And then he started espousing a lot of pro-Western stuff.
Great.
And, you know, he's a grifter a little bit too.
Well, he wants power.
His only plan, his only political philosophy was really like, I want to rule this place.
I'm going to be better than that guy.
And, you know, maybe he would have.
I don't know.
But what do you think of why would Putin even do the Tucker interview?
What's the chess move there?
To me, it felt a little desperate.
No, I think it actually comes from a position of strength.
He got an incredibly popular American journalist to not only come to Moscow and let him talk for two hours where he dominated the entire interview.
Yeah.
Dominated.
And then Tucker went around Moscow making like YouTube videos.
That was the corniest shit I've ever seen in my life.
But here's how cheap Cheerios are here.
It's weird to be a 50-year-old YouTuber glazing.
Yeah.
Glazing.
He's making Milkboy style videos in a grocery store.
He's like, look what I could get this sturgeon for.
Also, small pushback on very powerful journalists.
My feeling is he still has power for sure, but he's been a little bit ostracized, excommunicated.
Yeah, I mean, he's been ostracized for sure, but I do think that if we want to talk about getting attention, Tucker's name still.
No, he's killing attention, but he gets attention.
He would be the only person that they could get that Putin could get.
No, they would, he's the only person they would allow.
Like, Putin's not going to do, like, I think Putin.
Megan Kelly, I think, was the last one from traditional media.
I mean, I think Putin's only served if he brings in somebody who's kind of more open to his worldview than somebody who's going to joust with him.
Yes.
So I think it was kind of a smart move.
And if you watched the whole interview, Putin dominate, doesn't care about, this is very interesting, doesn't seem to care about Tucker's viewers, doesn't go into like trans bathrooms because that's what Tucker's viewers want.
Putin goes, I don't care.
I'm going to talk about the 1300s.
I don't care about you.
I don't care about your question.
I'm getting my message off.
Prince Oleg.
Tucker's viewers were like, talk about the bathrooms.
I can't throw it in it.
They're women, but they're men, but they're women.
Putin goes, no, Prince Oleg was baptized.
And people are going, what the hell is going on?
It's a total power move to bring somebody over and go, I don't care about your questions.
I don't care about your viewers.
I'm just going to go.
But can a power move be made from a position of weakness, I think, is what we were asking.
Like, you're going to grab this guy that you know you can bully and do the power move on because you're weak.
Why is Putin weak, though?
He's winning the Ukraine war.
Barely.
The sanctions.
It's the third overview.
It should have been over.
He's got 200 nuclear weapons.
Putin doesn't want to destroy the entire country of the Ukraine.
He went in there with not a ton of troops.
Putin never wanted the Ukraine.
I think he wants a deal, and I think he's really trying to get it.
He wants a deal.
The U.S. is telling Ukraine not to negotiate.
We're the ones that are telling them we don't want a deal.
We're fighting a proxy war with Russia through the Ukraine.
We keep telling Zelensky, no deal.
There could have been a deal before the invasion.
There could have been a deal with the Minsk Accords, which we told.
But the powers that be are getting paid.
That's the thing that I think a lot of people don't realize is that when we're giving money to Ukraine, we're not giving money to them.
No, it's a viral marketing campaign for General Dynamics and Safe.
But explain that to them.
Because you see all these articles.
They're like, can you believe it?
They're starving Americans here.
We're killing NATO.
So they sign on a paper saying all of our weapons purchases are to be from these NATO-approved contracts, which just happened to be.
Just happened to be all of Lockheed and General.
Yeah, Ray Theater.
And essentially, they're like, we're going to put Ukraine in NATO.
It's coming.
And Putin's like, you're not putting NATO missiles on the border of Russia.
It's not going to happen.
Russia's been invaded through the Ukraine multiple times.
Russia's been invaded multiple times in its history.
Putin's like, it's not going to happen.
If you do that, that is the line in the sand.
That is the red line.
And that's why we have a war.
Now, obviously, it's not right.
It's a war of aggression.
People are dying.
It's sad.
But the United States fully instigated this war and fully wants it and is enjoying it.
So we're back to what we do well.
We're doing it well.
Yeah.
That's why, like, why do we have to tuck our cocks between our legs?
We're fighting whites.
They're white.
We stopped with the brown on browns.
No, we got it.
This is good.
And then Tucker's going in there fucking it all up.
I don't think he's fucking up.
I think he's making it interesting.
I think we can.
Make it a mockery.
I think it's boring.
And I think it's like we all check out.
Remember when the...
Oh, he's spicing it back up.
Yeah, because it gets boring.
We started to watch Israel and Gaza because that came on Netflix.
And we're like, ooh, we go, that's the new shit.
Oh, this is interesting.
And that game was way better.
And then, but.
Like the real housewives in New Jersey brought back Danielle.
You need Danielle.
Danielle is great.
Danielle.
Danielle.
Danielle is great.
She's energy.
It's an amazing thing.
You need to bring in a villain so people can get excited again.
Yes.
And I think that's part of what we need.
Was just Tucker a pawn?
Is the State Department telling Tucker, hey, go over there, tell him about the gross?
No, but I mean, he's allowed to do it.
He's not suffering any consequences, nor should he.
I mean, it's a free speech thing, but like, I think it serves everybody's purposes.
He gets views, he gets clicks, people get interested and excited.
You know, Putin gets to get his message out.
A bit boring.
He's not exactly fun.
Oh, my.
But it's interesting.
You know, if you listen to him, you go, oh, this is interesting.
I mean, was it?
I respect it.
I like when he trolled Pucker and he was like, you know, CIA, an institution you tried to turn in.
That was good.
He was ready.
Putin's basically saying, I only respect people that are coming here to kill me.
I only respect power.
The media to me means nothing.
I don't care.
We own it in Russia.
You're a journalist.
That means nothing to me.
Even if you agree with me, I would respect you if you were coming here to kill me.
Because that's my people.
That's what we do.
And when he said they were always our enemies, he smiled a little bit.
CIA goes, you know, they were always our enemies.
Yeah.
Because, you know, a job is a job.
What he's basically saying is like, I respect them.
Because that's the game.
He was like, yo, they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.
And he was like, they did a good job.
Yeah, that's the game.
You know what's fascinating?
Do you watch these things more than once?
Because you analyze this the way guys analyze all 22 after a football game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I watched that.
I watched that interview three times.
Yeah.
You're picking up on shit that I'm like, I did not say that.
Yeah, it's, yeah, I just found it really interesting because that's the longest, you know, Putin, by the way, he gives speeches like this all the time in Russia and they're incredibly boring.
He talks about agriculture production in a province of Russia.
It's incredibly boring.
People that live in Russia know that.
You know, they'll be like, the greatest speech, the speech to end all speeches.
You know, and then it's Putin just going on kind of about some pretty like generic, vague crap.
But this was like, he's in his element talking for two hours about this war that we have a very skewed picture of it.
Do you think his health is better?
I think he looks great.
I think we keep writing articles.
What is he?
He's a heart attack of cancer.
I think it's all a lie.
I think it's all a lie.
I think he's fine.
He looks great.
Compare him to our guy.
Who would you want?
Our guy looks better.
Okay.
There's a migrant crisis to.
Generational Wealth Maintenance00:05:22
Yeah.
Now, it is my understanding that all of your homes, many of which that you have, congratulations, you've had a bit of success.
We have, you know, well-deserved.
It's fine.
I'm in the middle class.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm in the middle of my life.
I've seen these very middle class.
Very middle class.
They are, though.
You know?
Yeah.
They are.
When you say that, you mean you're not a Rothschild yet?
Well, for sure that.
But even in the world that I live, I mean, I'm not so out of touch, right?
I'm not saying it's the middle class, but it's like you live in Manhattan.
You're never rich.
Do you know what I mean?
You just have so many people that are so much more wealthy around you.
That's right.
That is it.
That is a lie.
Somebody that's sitting next to me.
That's a lie.
But that is an interesting thing about living in the city is that I think fucking losers.
No, I think you feel comfortable talking about money because you are so much poorer than the guy who lives across the street, down the block.
Like you're constantly putting in front of people.
And I think that's good because you shouldn't ever be at the top of anything.
Yeah, it's humbling, but it's also like you might speak about something, not you.
We might speak about something that looks as if it's bragging, but it's still far beneath where you know it can go.
Right.
That it doesn't feel in any way like it was.
Yeah, there's also like there's generational money in places like New York where you're like, oh, I could never have they can't spend it.
They can't spend it.
They can't earn it in one lifetime.
It's just there forever.
They're just the custodian of the money.
But they kind of, a lot of those people, their lives kind of lack something that ours have.
There's no purpose in their life.
They're not going to float around.
They're never intense.
Okay.
So this is the thing that I want to ask you about.
There's like these legacy families that have existed throughout history.
Rothschild is one of them.
Obviously, Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, right?
Some of these families maintain the wealth for fucking generations, maybe hundreds of years.
Some of them, within a few generations, fall apart.
Yeah.
And why is that?
Kids.
But they all have kids.
No, but some are better than others.
So some have a culture that like the Vanderbilts, you know, the last one is Anderson Cooper.
So the Vanderbilts made their money in rail?
Railroads.
He was a shipping magnet first.
Okay.
And then he got into railroads.
They called him the Commodore.
He was a big, you know, ships going from Brooklyn to New York back and forth.
Is Vanderbilt the one that has the home in Rhode Island?
They've got the Billmore in it.
It's insane.
Norton, North Carolina.
Yeah, they had all these amazing things, but you got to have lots of kids and the kids have to continue the business in some respect.
A lot of families squander money.
And a lot of kids just, you know, they suck, right?
They're not.
What I'm trying to understand is like, how do you maintain?
Like, who is like with the Royal Family, for example?
There's probably a team, a deep state, if you will, that is built to maintain the family despite how retarded the family is.
So it's interesting because you go down to Palm Beach, right?
You go, you drive around like Worth Avenue and Palm Beach, and before you get down there, you see all these family offices.
You'll see like this trust and that trust and the Chilton Trust and this trust.
And those are family offices.
You have one office dedicated to managing the wealth of one family.
So that is something that even if the kids are fuck-ups, the trust is built in a way to be fuck up proof.
That's right.
So they go have kids.
But some of these families, the kids aren't fuck-ups, and they continue to do good shit.
And I'm like, how do you instill the productive values in the kids?
It's hard.
Yes, so they just don't squander everything.
And who does it the best?
Do you just need one good kid every couple of generations?
That's a good point, too.
Because every kid has to have the culture.
I think it's change, right?
So the other important thing is the industry's change, right?
So much of the largest consolidation of wealth in human history is in Northern California right now.
It's a $9 trillion market cap.
And it's because every big tech company that we know about is sitting somewhere between San Francisco and Palo Alto.
That's where a huge amount of money is being generated right now, right?
So if you're in an industry that is, you know, can be, you know, modernized and can evolve and can still make money, you're great.
If you're in a, you know, there are like heiresses and people that, you know, they, their family owned a stationery company, right?
They owned a paper company, right?
And all of a sudden, we all, you know, that's all the West Virginia, like, there's these mansions and shit in West Virginia because of the coal industry.
Right.
Yeah.
So it really depends on like where you made your money.
Did you diversify?
Did you get into human trafficking, narco-trafficking, drug trafficking, political assassinations, flipping elections, working with the CIA, working with the Mossad, working with MI6?
You know, did you get into that stuff?
Did you blackmail people?
Did you kill them?
Did you blow up their cars?
Did you visit South American capitals, get into the drug trade, get into the drug game, make friends?
You know what I mean?
Did you do that or did you just sit around at Yale and jerk off?
What did you do?
What did you do with it?
That was magnificent.
That was magnificent.
That was wonderful.
You got to work.
Yeah.
So what happens?
They make all the money and then they go, okay, there's a limit to what I can do with all this fucking money because these politicians, I might as well be a politician or maybe make my kid apologize.
Human Trafficking and Blackmail00:05:45
I always tell the story of like, there's this fun representative and I like her because she's a little chubby and she beats up her husband.
And Katie Porter, she's in Orange County, California.
Katie Porter is a Democrat congresswoman from Orange County who physically abuses her husband.
And she's the one with the whiteboard.
If you've ever seen this, she brings like Jamie Diamond from Chase, Manhattan.
He'll come in.
And she goes, Can I ask you a question, Mr. Diamond?
And she breaks down his salary and how much he earns.
And then she breaks down the salary of like a teller.
The same way she breaks down her head.
Here she goes.
This is what she's famous about, right?
Wow.
She throws a couple of cookies down the hatch.
She goes in a car.
As I've done, as I've done.
A couple of cookies.
So this is a character I do, by the way.
This isn't me.
This is a cat.
This is a character.
She goes in and she goes, Hey, you're fucking everyone over.
And she does it on a whiteboard.
She goes, Here's how you're screwing everyone over.
And they all take it.
They all take it.
It's a show.
It's fun.
It goes on Twitter.
It goes on YouTube.
It means nothing.
It does nothing.
They get in their chat.
Jamie Diamond looks at somebody and goes, Can we kill her?
Yeah, yeah.
Can we do something?
Can we like, can we like, can we experiment with like an exploding cookie?
Yeah.
How do we get her?
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
It's a show.
They know that this is never going to impact them because at the end of the day, this is more of a show.
They come in for a public scolding.
This is like give the people their pound of flesh and we get to continue to afford wealth to pillage and everything.
I'll take it.
Everybody goes, oh, he got fucking demolished.
Yeah.
You'll talk about, yeah, you'll talk about like the back White House road or whatever where the president is like, yo, you have to come eat these jokes.
For them, it's like, you have to come eat this shit and we all feel a little bit better and then you can go continue to plunge.
You don't really want change.
Yeah.
We just want to see them be publicly.
We just want a mom.
She's a mom.
It's mom energy.
Yeah.
She's up there being like, you know, yeah, you scolded that rich guy.
You lied to me.
You had the party.
I said you shouldn't have a party.
You said it was going to be four people, but you know what it was?
It wasn't four people.
And then you stole three billion dollars.
Yeah, we feel like he's not getting away with it.
And then it continues to get away with it.
And then, right.
And then you go, mom, I'm really sorry.
It's like hard.
It's like hard to be a kid.
It's like hard.
Like, like other people from other schools are coming.
I just want them to like me.
And it's very hard.
I don't understand.
You don't get it.
Your dad's never around.
And she's like, well, none of that's an excuse.
You go, I know, mom, but I'm doing the best I can.
And she's like, fine.
And then she's like, all right, here's a couple of hundred bucks.
And I'll go on the ski trip.
That's all it is.
It's a fun.
So Zuckerberg got to show up for that shit.
He's got to show up and get spanked.
Everybody got to get spanked.
He's got to get spanked.
And then he goes back into the cryo chamber, the jujitsu mountain he's on.
So they show up and they send Big Mama out.
Big Mama comes in.
Big Mama comes in and she gives everybody a spank and goes right to the whiteboard.
She goes right to the whiteboard.
And by the way, this is what Russia hasn't figured out.
Putin should just sit down.
They just bring it up.
She draws the volley on the whiteboard.
She goes, What did you do?
And he just, she basically sits down.
That's true.
And they, Russia is an old society.
They have not figured out stagecraft in the way that America has.
We have these really fun, brilliant, Hollywood-style ways to make people feel like things are changing.
Russia doesn't do any of that.
They just blow up planes and kill people.
It's old school.
They just don't understand.
There's a bunch of guys in a room.
They go, what are we going to do?
And we're like, we got an Orange County mom.
She spanks everybody, and then we keep the party going.
In Russia, they don't have that.
Russia, they can't bring in some woman from Minsk who's like, oh, there's blow the plane up.
Blow the plane.
Get the poison.
We have all this poison, just poison.
Does she know she's an actor in the theater?
No, she thinks she's doing a great job.
You don't think she knows?
No, she thinks this is a great job.
No, this is the beauty of it.
Everybody thinks they're a hero.
Everyone thinks they're a hero.
Jamie's the hero for getting spanked.
Yeah, yeah.
She's the hero.
She's the hero.
Hero.
She comes in.
She gets up.
She has her egg white omelette.
She's only lying to herself.
She gets into minivan.
She gets into minivan.
Goes over to Washington, D.C.
She gets in there.
You know what I mean?
You know, has a keto, one of those, you know, those keto peanut butter cops.
She goes, Yeah, well, it's actually my body's running on.
So she comes in, she sits down, and then this is like it's go time.
The cameras are on her, and she's ready.
And it's a beautiful thing to watch, and it means nothing.
Nothing ever happens.
And like, literally, they'll pass the law where they're like, you're evicting someone in 60 days.
You're giving them 65.
You're giving them five extra days before the sheriffs go in there.
That's like the most that ever happens.
Slow clay.
It's like if Bernie Sanders wait, everyone's like, yeah, if Bernie Sanders would have been elected, he would have fought for four years.
He would have gone up there.
All the speeches.
At the end, he would have gotten like free community college for a year.
Yeah, yeah.
And it would have been like a big victory.
Everybody would have been like, wow, this is amazing.
And he'd go, you have the right to go to community college.
Now that regular college means nothing.
You have the right to go to community college for one year for free.
And, you know, that's like, it's a brilliant, the way it's all set up.
It's coming.
You got to watch it and you got to go, this is fun.
Yes, it's theater.
And we need it.
We need the theater.
We need the theater.
Russia doesn't have it.
Hamas Protest and Four Seasons00:15:10
A lot of countries don't have it.
What is it?
The exhaust or whatever.
You got to let the burn off the fumes.
And we need that.
People get mad.
They get angry.
They go, these banks, we know they're ruining us over.
They're raising the mortgage.
I can't believe this.
And then they're like, but let's see what Big Mama says.
Big Mama.
She just lays it out, hasn't she?
Yeah.
She just lays it out.
She's been real peep on Israel, though.
She's not.
Okay, we got to put a pause to this conversation about global domination, power, and greed.
Yes.
Okay, because the good people at home need some takes, to be honest.
They need some picks.
I think you've been doing really well.
You've been smoking them.
Yeah.
They need greed as well.
We should all capitalize on some green.
You know what?
We're going to continue.
You had a greed conversation.
What do we got going on?
I got safe picks on Prize Picks.
I'm playing it safe because Prize Picks has the green goblin, which is like a very easy thing to hit.
Multiplier, not quite as high, but it's very safe.
It's like a mutual fund in the stock market.
All right.
So I got Kyrie Irving more than 19 and a half points.
That seems like a fucking lock.
I got Steph Curry more than three and a half assists.
That's a sing thousand percent lock, not even a question.
And then they're offering a discount right now.
Donovan Mitchell, more than 21 and a half points.
Normally it's like 27, 26.
They went down.
That's not even, there's not even like a multiplier on that.
That's just something they're giving you.
You know what I mean?
So those are your prize picks.
Promo coach Schultz, they'll match your initial deposit up to $100.
So you put in 100 to get 100 for free.
Yeah, that's far.
That seems like a fucking no-brainer.
Yeah, that's far.
What else happened in sports right now?
You know what I'm excited about?
This is, there's a couple weeks that suck after the NFL season ends.
But then once the atrociousness that is NBA All-Star Weekend is over, we get to get into it.
Now it's real basketball.
Yeah, now you're getting up for the playoffs and the guys are actually playing and we're looking at what seeds are going to be in.
This is going to be good.
And if you're at home with baby Shiloh next season, y'all are looking promising.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
It is kind of crazy.
I can't even believe it.
I don't want to even attach myself to it.
What sucks is as you get busier, you get less time for sports.
But the good thing about being with her right now, you have all the time for sports.
Oh, yeah.
And the Knicks are actually good.
Such a great excuse, also, when you take your newborn to a game because you look like the best dad, but you're really just selfishly going to a game and blowing your kids' eardrums out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you put the headphones on.
Exactly.
Look at how adorable he is.
You're making her a Knicks fan.
No, no, I would be doing that for me.
I just want to let you know.
Yes.
That will be for me when that happens.
You should do it.
Yeah, right.
You deserve it, dude.
You worked hard.
We did.
You know what I mean?
We did.
I mean, I did all the work, really.
I really did everything to make that.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Shout out to wives, yo.
Yeah.
Shout out to wives.
Anyway, what else we got?
Anything else?
Man, that's it.
Football season, dry, so you got to find the new thing.
Right now, it's NBA.
That's the move.
All right, we locked in.
Let's do it.
Let's get rid of them floors.
Yeah, get rid of them goofy ass floors.
That's all done, too.
All-star game is gone.
The play-in season tournament is gone.
Now it's a real hot stick.
Back to basketball.
Let's have some coffee.
Absolutely.
You know who I would actually love to talk to?
Did you see when JJ Reddick called out Doc Rivers?
Oh, yeah.
So Doc is a guy that I, I don't know, something about him always just felt weird to me.
And then he goes to coach the Bucks, gets their head coach, gets fired mid-season.
He gets $40 million a year, and then he keeps being like, yeah, you know, we're going to suck for a while.
The guys aren't playing hard.
And it's like, buddy, you're making $40 million a year.
And then JJ Reddick is like, there's never any accountability with this guy.
He's always blaming someone else.
And JJ Reddick played for ex-coach.
So this is like a very personal thing.
I would love to.
He's the fucking bitch.
Yo, JJ don't give a fuck.
He's the best.
JJ does not give a fuck.
Yeah, I like that.
We got to have JJ on.
Yeah.
We got to bring JJ on a pop.
Yeah.
That's going to be, yeah, that would be fun.
He would be a good person to get some perspective on the league.
Also, I want to learn about like the Duke days.
Yeah.
And it's cool to see the transformation from like this kid.
Because he was hated.
Hated.
Yeah.
And now he's just like this fucking very calm, cool dad that's like very thoughtful in everything he says.
Even if it's a hot take, it's well thought out.
He's great.
Maybe the best in basketball right now with No Van Gundy.
Yeah, we might have to have JJ on.
Yeah.
We got to talk about how pale he was at Duke.
Like it was almost like he was leaning in to be basketball.
Yeah, that's why Duke wanted him to be that.
He's like, don't go out in the sun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got much to move.
All right.
Let's get back to the show, man, with Tim Dillon.
Hey, who is Peep on Israel and who is not?
The squad, those people are.
I think the squad barely says anything anymore.
Well, one does, the Rashida Talib, because she's Palestinian.
So she got it.
She has to.
She's got to pop off.
Yeah.
She's the McElmore of our, you know what I mean?
Because he's also popping off.
How about the guy that lit himself on?
Oh, yeah.
I just heard about this guy.
Lit himself on fire.
He said, freaking out.
What happened?
The guy outside of the Israeli embassy lit himself on fire to protest the war.
And which my whole point is, they don't care about that.
That's what they're doing.
Are you sure he lit himself on fire?
Yeah, he literally's like, Robin, you saved this time.
And thank you.
They're like, this is a real cost of rage.
This is a protest.
He lit himself on fire.
This is an U.S. Air Force soldier, right?
It's a self-immoliation.
And what he was doing, this is an old school way of protest where you light yourself on fire to protest something that you do not like.
And this person...
This is Eastern philosophy.
This is very, I don't know whose philosophy this is.
Rage Against the Machine.
It is.
It is Eastern philosophy.
Isn't it a Tibetan guy who did this?
I was going to do it or something?
Yes, exactly.
There was a guy who did it to protest some type of, you're right.
It was an Asian.
Did they put him out or did he die?
No, he died at the other end.
They put him out, but he, you know, he succumbed to his injuries in the hospital.
Let's just be very honest.
Yes.
In terms of pure stagecraft, I like this.
Talk to us.
I like it because.
I like it because.
I like it because, first of all, it's new.
I like the focus on one person.
All these protests, there's so many people in the show.
He gets lost, right?
Yeah, yeah.
This is really going back to the old school.
One person watching a play.
One can of gas, one person in front of the thing.
And it's just your eyes are trained right on him.
Yeah.
The message doesn't get muddled.
It's free Palestine.
Yeah.
Because in the big protest, you know what happened.
What happened?
People show up with the oak tank and they're talking about nine other things.
That's true.
That's right.
That's distracting.
He's yelling only two words as he burns himself to death.
Tragedy, yes, not good.
I didn't do it.
I didn't put anyone in a tunnel.
I didn't do anything.
The point is, I didn't do anything.
People are mad at me right now.
Look at yourselves.
I did nothing.
I'm just, as a protest, I go, I'm more into this than I am into the march.
The marches, you're over the marches.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just over it.
But this is new.
Yeah.
This is new.
This is real sacrifice.
I love it.
It's real sacrifice.
Just get your 10,000.
Kids love it.
It's trending.
It's on TikTok.
It's fun.
It's killing on X.
It's just, it's engagement.
It's followers.
It's likes.
It's clicks.
It should be a new TikTok channel.
This is big.
Go cry about it.
Go cry about it.
VIP list bitches would say.
But no, this is, I mean, as a marketing thing, this has done very well for him.
Very well.
No, he's not here to see it.
It's unfortunate.
But this is a great marketing move.
Yeah.
You want to talk about a promo?
Burt Kreischer, eat your heart out.
That is a promo.
That is a promo.
This guy is wild.
Burt does the best comedy promos I think he game, but this guy has elevated it to another level.
Imagine if he was selling tickets.
Oh, they're gone.
Imagine if he's announcing a tour.
Yes.
That's the real game.
Put it out after a minute or two.
Yeah.
Put it out and put the dates on.
Yeah, just throw all the days.
I like it.
I like it.
You don't want to, you're wasting virality for nothing.
They're not going to stop the war.
They don't care that you burned your kids.
They don't care.
You can't think they're going to care.
How do you get them to stop the war?
You don't.
There's no way.
Well, I couldn't figure it out.
I think they have to have some.
America hasn't got the power to make Israel stop the war.
Whoa.
We don't take.
We don't have the power.
We don't take.
No.
What does that mean?
Are you trying to say?
No, they have a military.
They have money.
But if the whole UN votes for a ceasefire and the U.S. raises their hand as well, then Israel says, fuck y'all.
Well, yes, but also we're not doing that.
We're not doing that.
The best you're going to get is for Biden to say this deal, this hostage release deal before you attack the Rafah where all the civilians are.
I think the damage has been done.
There will never be a two-state solution now.
It is a thing that has made the region less safe.
And I'm not even putting this all on Israel, obviously, but like this is just, you know, I think 80% of Gaza is now uninhabitable.
You know, I don't know how it goes back to anything that we understand.
I think it moves forward in a way that has to be Arab countries like Saudi Arabia and the United States.
They've got a police.
They have to rebuild it.
They have to kick in a lot of money.
But this is not going to get somebody to stop the war.
And I have a ton of sympathy for innocent people in Gaza dying that had nothing to do with this, that have been also crushed under Hamas.
The loss of life is absolutely staggering.
I think Israel had a 9-11 moment where they went a little overboard.
I think we went a little overboard for sure.
After 9-11, I think we did things that were unwise and ultimately made us less.
What was the right amount of people we should have killed after?
Yeah, a little overboard is a very simple thing.
Because I hear people saying that, they're like, it's too many babies killed.
And it's like, well, what's the right of them?
There's no way to say it.
Like, language doesn't work when you're talking about thousands of people dying.
So if I say a little overboard, it sounds like I'm being callous about it.
But the other problem is if I say like, if I say, right, if I say like it was a genocide, then that has this political connotation that so then it's like, then you can't have a discussion about how to end anything because people are going to lie.
People just go nuts about words where it's like, no, the goal, just like Trump was right when they said, what's the goal in the Ukraine war?
He's like, no more dying.
No more dying.
No more war.
How do we get to that?
And then she's like, what do you mean?
And he's like, well, I don't want anyone to die anymore.
We should stop the war.
And she's like, but do you want?
And it's like, no, no, no.
My goal, everyone's goal, because I'm an Irish Catholic from Long Island who grew up with none of I didn't, this was not a meaningful thing for my family.
It's not like my mother came home and was like, hey, Israel, like, we just weren't, you know, I'm not as super educated about the issue either.
I don't pretend to be.
I just know that we can't see levels of destruction like this in the modern world.
When you're looking at your phone and you're seeing children displaced and families displaced and no hospitals and those that it's not going to work.
And I think ultimately it makes Israel less safe and it diminishes their credibility internationally, a reaction like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That doesn't mean that they shouldn't have responded.
They needed to respond.
They absolutely had to respond.
It was an attack on Israel from Hamas.
It was an act of war.
You also respond with an act.
You respond with an act of war.
Yeah.
Completely understandable.
Violence begets violence.
Violence begets violence.
At some point in any conflict, you have to figure out how to end the conflict.
Do you think that the countries in the Middle East are in some ways complicit with what's happening?
Like they almost kind of want terrorism wiped out so they can get some Western dollars in there.
It feels like everybody's ready to let capitalism run wild.
Well, Iran has always been.
Outside of Iran.
Yeah.
They've always been kind of an agitator in that region.
They don't really get along with Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia and Israel actually had like kind of a kind of boys.
UAE, Israel's good.
Egypt, Israel's good.
Jordan, Israel's good.
But I think this has strained a lot of those relationships too, because the citizens in those countries are like, this is.
The citizens, I think, are furious, but I wonder if the governments are like, hey, listen, we need no terrorism over here.
We can't have random bombs.
Yes.
I don't want any of this political unrest.
If you got a good idea, I was the one who very bravely.
What did you do?
You want to hear this?
Yeah.
You lit a guy on fire outside of Israeli and Secretary.
When they were trying to kick the heads of Hamas out of the four seasons of Do Qatar, I said no.
Because I believe in brand loyalty as a concept.
They had lived in the four seasons for a very long time.
First of all, there's not a lot of great chains in hotels in the world.
There are not.
There are not.
I've stayed in a lot.
And I'm saying I didn't disagree with what Hamas did.
But making them stay at a lesser hotel is not going to make them less angry.
It's going to piss them off.
Butter them up.
I said, leave them in the four seasons.
In fact, make it nicer.
Bring them to an Amman.
Bring them to an Amman.
The war's over.
Let's get it.
The war is over.
But if they're in a marriage, SADE.
No, we don't want to be able to do it.
It's going to be carnage in a marriage.
But it is funny because these are the things in the modern world.
Why all this stuff is crazy?
It's insane is because that's a news story.
Should the leaders of Hamas get kicked out of the four seasons?
Yeah.
That's insane.
It's an insane news story.
Why is there not more pressure on the four seasons for that?
The breakfast is amazing.
No.
That's a phenomenal breakfast.
Because they sell their sheets and pillows.
Yeah, well, here's the problem.
We all, for example, the Beverly Hills Hotel is owned by people who throw gay people off the roof, right?
Who is it?
I believe so.
Who's that?
It's gone by.
Sultan Brunei, Dorchester Group.
And they throw gay people off the roofs.
Have not at the Beverly Hills.
We'll just break a leg.
I've tried.
No.
So where they're from, it's not good.
It's not good.
The progressive values aren't good.
But if I have to have lunch at the Waldorf, I will throw myself off the roof.
You understand what I mean?
If I have to have the chicken salad at the Waldorf, I will throw myself off the roof.
But owned by big Jews who I know, I know they share the values, but it's not as good.
The eggs are not as good.
Yeah.
So we all have to decide which horrors we want to participate in and for what reason.
Yeah.
That's part of modern life.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I know there's a lot of NYU students that are unhappy.
Go cry about it.
What do Americans still own?
I mean, very little, right?
A lot of our cultural properties are kind of diminishing.
We still kill music.
You do a lot of great stuff on your show about music that we still, we're still, the world is our music.
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Yeah.
Right.
That's always something that we still have.
War. We're good at war.
Oh, baby.
Yeah.
Tech.
We're doing good.
Yeah.
You know, our financial sector is pretty big.
We've got some stuff.
I'm talking about in terms of properties.
Like, it seems like so many of these traditional American properties and British properties too are owned by countries.
We got a lot of people coming in.
A lot of people.
London is a clearance sale for the Middle East.
The United States, New York City is the same.
You know, yeah, I mean, because a lot of these people want to diversify.
That's why it's all funny.
It's like, you know, Navalny does all these videos where he's like, look at all the corruption in Russia, all these oligarchs own all these houses.
And we're like, yeah, go, Navalny, go.
You know where else they own property?
Here.
Here.
Here in our cities.
And you know what we say when people say, well, we should stop S-Corps from buying real estate.
We should limit the amount of foreign ownership.
You know, we all say, no, no.
So it's just very funny.
Like, we're like, he's exposing the corruption, but we're really happy to take the dollars of oligarchs and, you know, we took them twice here.
All the oligarchs' assets got seized once the war started.
Yeah, which I was against.
It's not right.
It's not right.
It's not easy to get a yacht.
My real estate.
It's not easy to run a fertilizer company for 30 years.
Okay.
That you won in some struggle where you had to kill nine people outside of a cafe in Prague.
Okay.
And you had to hide in a car and you don't tell anyone about that.
And now, you know, you've got 30 years and, you know, it's like you have this yacht and you've named it after the guy you watched die.
Who is this?
No, I'm just making a lot of money.
You're just making a whole bachelor's listening to Riff.
But no, at the end of the day, it's like, and now you have a yacht and then Putin invades Ukraine and now you got to give up your yacht.
Bro, you killed people.
You killed people for that yacht.
Yeah.
Most yachts people die for.
Anyway, they seized all these assets that the oligarchs owned in New York and I have a buddy in real estate.
And he was, him and his buddies were already looking at the ownership of Russian assets in New York.
Yeah.
And that so that they could undercut them by 50%.
Yeah.
Trying to buy it.
So they sell it to the oligarchs.
Yeah.
Buy it back and half off again.
Yeah.
And there's all these great stories about how they got around a lot of the sanctions.
The sanctions really didn't impact the Russian economy the way we thought it would.
There's a great story that actually came out about Nikolai Petrush Petrushev, who is the head of Putin's security services.
He used to be the head of the FSB, their intelligence agency.
He's like Putin's main guy, maybe the successor to Putin.
His son, his best friend, is like this guy that works in a Norway energy company.
And even though Norway, you know, all these countries sanctioned Russia, they're just doing backdoor deals.
Oh, I saw the oil tankers going through the Bosphorus in Turkey.
And they just have no labels on them at all.
There's just these random...
There's ways around it.
There's ways around it.
It's a long game.
We need enemies.
We need enemies.
It's a long game.
Especially when you're business.
That's what Russia was.
We're never going to put them into NATO.
We never got them into our thing because we need an enemy.
Yeah, why didn't we bring them in after World War II?
Because we need an enemy.
But we needed an enemy immediately or they also wanted an enemy.
Well, I think it's good for everyone to have an enemy because it's very good for Russia to talk about the great, you know, the Satan of America.
And it's great for me because that galvanizes the people.
Yes.
You need a common enemy that everybody else is.
Otherwise, people start listening to Big Mama.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
They start listening to Big Mama.
Half the people that are listening to Big Mama, you have to go, Putin, Satan, stop listening to Big Mama.
Oh, fuck.
So that's the issue when you don't.
So that's the issue when you don't have an enemy that everybody's afraid of.
You just fight each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Putin gets out.
America's going to come in here.
They want unisex bathrooms.
They want your family to be forced into gay porn production and all this stuff.
So one enemy is just way more effective when it comes to running a country.
It's way easier to be two or three.
Yeah, you need a Batman villain.
You need an enemy.
You need somebody to get you, because otherwise people start going, hey, what's going on here?
Yeah.
Stop asking questions.
Yeah, stop asking questions.
So now they got to make us fight with each other because there's no one we're really afraid of.
If there's a joker, you start looking at the Batman like, dude, you're a fucking psychopath.
Yeah, going to gay women.
Why are you in this cave?
Because we're not afraid.
Like, we're not afraid of Russia, really.
Americans, maybe a little bit China.
We like fake care about the migrant crisis.
Like, there's nothing that really is concerning us.
Yeah.
I mean, so that's why they're trying to get us to be really afraid of Russia.
It's not really working.
Nah.
It's not working.
They're trying.
And then China, we know it's there.
We know it's looming.
Yeah.
But it's not imminent.
It also doesn't feel like they want the smoke that bad.
Like they want to beat us maybe economically, but they're like they want to flush.
China is much more, they can play the long game.
Yeah.
In terms of a conflict with America.
They don't want one tomorrow.
Yeah.
They can play.
They're reliant.
They're just getting stronger.
They need us.
They're just getting better.
Yeah.
So last time you were on the pod, you talked kind of in a way that made it feel like America's, you might have even said it, an empire on the decline.
Sure.
Do you still feel that way?
If so, is it China?
Who's next?
What's the biggest difference?
I think we're in a stage of decline, but we're in a stage of decline the way a housewife is.
You know, she's in Beverly Hills.
She's still, the tits are still out.
They're still out.
You know what I mean?
She's not getting the attention she got.
The tits are still out.
She's still in a poor.
She's on husband three.
He's no oligarch.
But, you know, he's got a good medical supplies company.
They got a house and a flat.
Yeah.
You know, she's got one kid in rehab and another one who's an artist and so hopefully.
We're Sharon Stone.
Yeah.
We're Sharon Stone.
We're not.
It ain't crisis mode.
No, it's a beautiful, elegant woman.
You're not 25.
It's not, it doesn't go backwards.
So she knows that.
So you think glory days are gone?
How much longer do we have and then who takes glory days are all subjective?
One guy's glory days are another people's hell.
Some people say the 50s and 60s were the glory days.
Well, they weren't for minorities, gays, or women, right?
Yeah.
Some people said the 90s were the glory days.
Some people will say that the early 2000s were the glory days.
Some people will say that right now is the glory days because they just made a hell of a lot of money in Bitcoin and live in Miami.
And, you know, who knows?
I just think that we're in our bad, like, we're a little past bad bitch.
And now we're like in our front row of a Porsche, heading down PCH, kind of IDAF phase.
I don't give a fuck phase.
Yeah.
And then after that, it's the sloppy pills phase.
So we got to make sure that we don't get to the sloppy pills.
We want to.
This is a nice phase, driving.
This is the PCH to the Portuguese.
This is a great phase because it's like, it's an I've done it phase.
Yes, people talk shit about me.
Yes, I've had three husbands.
Yes, my kids hate me.
But I did it.
Yeah.
At a certain point in life, you start going, I did it, no matter what you've done, which is actually hilarious.
No matter what you've done, I've known some of the biggest losers in the world.
But they did it.
Still, when they get to 40, they start talking about shit like it's in a, they'll talk about taking a bus.
They'll go, I took a bus.
Like, they don't care.
You have to look back and go, it was something.
Yeah.
So this bitch, we did it.
We did it.
And we're in that phase.
The next phase is sloppy pills.
Where are the pills?
Is there a way to avoid it?
We don't want her to show up at the lunch phase because she's a problem.
Is there a way to avoid that phase?
Technology, science, medicine.
How good can it get?
How much better can it get?
I know you had that crazy guy in the other day.
He's also drinking his kids' blood.
He seems fun.
Honestly.
I do check in on the show all the time and I go, what is he doing today?
Honestly, he was great.
Putin will be on this.
I'm like, how did Tucker get that?
Before Andrew got it.
So we wouldn't fly out.
Here's the thing.
That's a good point.
Here's the thing.
It's great speaking to people that truly believe that they're going to change the world.
Yes.
Or believe in what they're doing.
Like I had dinner with Bob Lazar, with Rogan once.
He's the UFO dude.
Yes.
And I don't know if I believe in UFOs, but I know he believes that he was doing it.
Yes.
Like, I don't think he's lying.
Sure.
And that Brian dude genuinely believes if he doesn't get hit by a bus, he can live forever.
The CIA believes it.
The FSB believes it.
Putin believes it.
Putin's not kidding.
Yeah.
Putin's not kidding.
Yeah.
Putin genuinely believes that Russia is, the West is going to try to take Russia and westernize it.
He believes that.
I think he's right.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, Ann Applebaum in the Atlantic, all these people writing articles going, we need to westernize Russia.
It's a failed state.
It's a failed society.
It's westernized.
I went to Moscow.
I did stand up there.
No, but it's westernized.
All these people want to do is sell weapons.
Once you just understand that the world is selling weapons, everything makes sense.
You go, oh, I get it.
So let's back up.
It's not westernized in terms of trans bathrooms.
They could give a flying fuck if we love trans people or not.
Are you buying the weapons from Raytheon?
If you're buying the weapons from Raytheon, that's good.
That's it.
So they want, that's what they want.
And Putin genuinely believes, whether he's right or wrong or whether people think he's overreacting or not, he believes there is an existential threat through NATO to Russia.
And I think he's probably correct.
But isn't there always one from your neighbors?
Like, I hate when people bring up that argument.
They're like, oh, we've been invaded like this for thousands of years.
It's like, yeah, that's what neighbors do.
Neighbors invade each other.
Which is why thousands of years.
That's why you want, Russia wants their neighbors to not have the means to do it.
To do it.
Completely get it.
Tough cookies.
Well, no, but it is tough cookies because they have 200 nuclear weapons.
Do they work?
They work.
How do we know that?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, there's a lot of huffing and puff.
Like he was like, you know, we have hypersonic speed and we have the greatest in the world.
If we didn't think they worked, we'd be in Ukraine fighting with them.
That's a valid point.
American boots are not on.
It's a valid point.
Wait a minute.
Let's talk about that.
That's interesting.
If we will send weapons.
We will send weapons.
We will not go.
And why is that not a violation?
Like, if you're supplying the weapons to the people that are killing me, like, I'm at war with you.
It's a fun game.
Okay, so those are the rules of the game.
It's the rules of the game.
And this is why he smiles at it.
Yeah.
With the Nord Stream shit.
He needs this.
Everyone needs it.
Oh, because it galvanizes the people.
Who's in his third act?
His hits around.
Gets on a PCH.
He's going to avoid stopping pills.
He's got his hits out on a PCH.
That's everybody needs it.
Yeah, yeah, they did it.
We all need it.
When they blew up the Nordic shit, I got two great bits on this third stage.
The Royal Opera Hall, keep it going.
Also, please go beautiful people.
London, go show up for Timmy's Coming to World Apostle.
When, um, it's April, early April the 7th, I believe.
Okay, good.
It's a Sunday, but what are you doing?
You'll go.
Please go.
It's amazing.
It was.
It was really one of the most beautiful places.
No, I'm excited to do it, and I'm excited to do it.
But yeah, I mean, it's like we won't go there and we won't do it.
We just have to give them the weapons.
We can't do it because then that's direct confrontation.
But we don't want direct confrontation.
If we did Nord Stream, that's direct confrontation.
But nobody can prove it.
But isn't what he's, he brought something up on it.
He goes, there's only one country that's capable of doing it.
Yeah.
So Putin capable of the kids.
He knows we did it, but here's the deal.
He cannot allow American troops to kill Russian soldiers in the Ukraine without responding by going to a hot war with America.
We can underhand it.
Oh, now I'm getting it.
Okay, so basically, he might not even want to go into a hot war, but his people will lose respect for him.
That's correct.
And his power will be threatened if he'll do a go to a coup.
So he's only acting.
So as long as we behave in a way where he doesn't have to react, now they must know that we're supplying the weapons.
We're literally talking about in the news.
We're going $14 billion.
He knows.
He's literally said stop supplying the weapons and the war will end in two weeks.
Now, at the same time, you could probably argue we're also supplying food in some way to the Russian army.
We're supplying Coca-Cola.
The global economy is so intermixed.
Yeah, it's, you know, at the end of the day, it's like this is a geopolitical chess game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And there's things we can do without going into a wider war.
Yeah.
And there's things we can't do.
We can't put troops on the ground and we won't.
Our citizenry will not tolerate.
We can put all the flags up.
We can do all the songs and the dances.
We will not tolerate American troops in harm's way in the Ukraine.
We won't.
Separate.
Go, go, go.
A Russian rocket that can take down satellites.
What's your opinion about it?
I mean, do I know how accurate it is?
I mean, the Russians have a lot of stuff.
Putin rebuilt that country.
Do they?
Name a Russian car.
Yeah, but they're not going to bomb us with a car.
If you can't make a car, you can't make a bomb.
No, you can make a bomb.
I don't think you can.
Name a Russian car.
Name a Russian boat.
Name a Russian everything.
The reason that they don't make cars is because all the money goes in tap homes and things like that.
Russia does not factor in the economy.
Let's not subscribe to it.
It's fact.
I don't believe it.
We don't know it's fact.
You haven't seen it.
My mother didn't believe Obama was a Christian, so that doesn't mean he's not a Christian.
She was like, you know, she goes, there's prayer runs in the White House.
I go, really?
Okay.
The reality is Russia decided a long time ago, all they have is the teeth.
They have fear.
They do not have an economy.
They're never going to compete with us economically.
They don't have the people we have.
They don't have the ingenuity.
They don't have anything.
They have natural resources, so they don't need any of that.
Yeah, but they need to be able to do that.
But as far as Brazil has natural resources, they need nukes.
They need fear.
They need the ability to pulverize.
They need to be scary.
If they're not scary, then what are they?
They've got an economy roughly the size of Brazil.
It's not.
It's not a big deal.
It's not a big deal.
They need to be scary, so they have scary stuff.
Otherwise, we would treat them like Iraq.
If they didn't have these nukes, he'd be gone already.
He'd be gone.
We would treat him like Iraq.
We put him in a hole.
We knew he didn't have weapons of mass destruction.
That's why we went in there.
Yeah, but there's not 150 million people in Iraq.
Good point.
That's the thing.
No, it's so hard to manage a country if I would.
100 million people.
We would set up a puppet government.
It would be fine.
We don't want to go in there because we know that he has nuclear weapons.
That's when countries want nukes because it's the last line of defense against the West.
Here's my thought.
If we talk about geopolitical chess, to me, the only reason I'm, I guess, I don't know if I support the war, but I'm okay with hopefully seeing Russia come over to this team because China is the largest living threat in my view.
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And you're absolutely right.
You're the same members of our foreign policy establishment are saying we need to focus a lot less on Russia and a lot more on China.
But if we can get Russia over to our side, if Putin falls, Russia eventually becomes Western.
I don't think so.
I don't think the next guy is going to be a friend of ours.
I think this was kind of a strategic mistake.
I think we should have probably said, hey, let's do a deal.
Let's do a deal.
But I also just don't think we're that afraid of China either.
I think that's what I think is underestimating.
We might be underestimating.
I just think we're not that afraid of China.
I think it's like we need China.
China needs us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think we're...
If we were that afraid, I think we wouldn't be spending all these resources.
I just feel like cooler heads will prevail with China, perhaps.
However, they're going to probably maybe take Taiwan.
I need to understand something.
Okay.
We can't let them take Taiwan until we can make the chips.
That's a big deal with these chips.
And then Army out here, like holding the whole stock market on its shoulders, definitely not going to let China come swoop in and take that.
It's going to be tough.
We're going to have to figure it out.
They want Taiwan.
They want a unified.
They want the South China Sea.
They want Taiwan.
They want their power base in Asia.
They want to run Asia.
They want to be the boss of Asia.
Yeah.
We're going to have to find a way to either let them be the boss or feel like they're the boss.
Okay.
Okay.
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I'm trying to understand this George Soros character.
Okay.
I hear his name a lot.
It's this boogeyman thing.
And I'm trying to, okay, I'm trying to parse something here.
Is he the equal and opposite reaction to like the Koch brothers?
Yes.
I would say that the Koch brothers probably...
Can you explain who they are to the audience?
Yeah, I mean, they're a family of right-wing billionaires that are kind of more libertarian.
They really love free markets.
They love free trade.
They want to make money.
They own like Dixie Cup.
They own oil.
They have everything, right?
But they are big donors.
They're big donors to Republican right-wing causes.
And I assume they have done, they've kind of weaponized philanthropy in a very interesting way.
Set up all these foundations and then reroute all that money that's going to happen.
Where I had my kid was a Koch New York Presbyterian hospital.
It was called Theater is the Mat.
Lovely.
Right.
So doing a great job.
They are a huge force in right-wing politics.
Okay, so now I'm assuming that some of this philanthropy is benevolent, sure.
They have more of an interest in federal policy.
He has more of an interest in state policy, crime.
I want to get to that one second.
Okay, but I assume that all these donations are not necessarily altruistic.
They, in some way, help the Koch brothers' business pursuits, right?
They can make, no, no, change legislation.
Yes.
Make it a little easier to do business, make some more money, right?
So that's what you're dumping money into.
Great money in, there's a great book about this called Dark Money by Jane Mayer, where she wrote about how the Koch brothers realized there was a limit to campaign contributions.
And then they started, you know, infiltrating universities.
They started really selecting people to be professors.
They went on a granular level to try to advance their policy.
Influence culture, influence culture.
And okay, but I understand this because as long as these policies are out there and these ideologies are out there, and then maybe they might look at it and be like, yo, we're being heroes.
We're actually saving the United States of America.
That's saving freedom.
So I'm not saying that they're nefarious actors here.
Sure.
But all the things that they support potentially make them more money, right?
Oh, that's just ideal.
And they're friends.
And they're friends.
More money.
So that's bottom line.
So I guess I'm trying to understand if Soros is the equal and opposite reaction.
In other words, the quote-unquote benevolent donator from the left-wing side, what is he donating to that helps his businesses?
Like, what are his businesses that deploying this type of cash is going to support?
That's what Soros made.
He made billions of dollars a long time ago crashing the English pound.
I read that.
He's a financier, but his interest is in social policy.
So Soros.
How does that benefit him?
Well, there's a lot of ideological reasons that George Soros believes the things he does.
Like he is a believer that the carceral state in America is prisons are completely unfair and unjust.
And he's not completely wrong there.
What Soros often does is he will go and get two left-wing DAs and support them both so that they go head to head and that the most left-wing one, they push each other to the extremes, and then the most extreme one will win.
And his goals are what he feels like is a reformation of the American criminal justice system to be more focused on rehabbing criminals, not putting people in jail that don't belong there, and changing that dynamic.
On paper, that looks like it makes great sense.
It looks great.
Great on paper.
Now, I think that he's been blamed, and maybe rightfully so, I don't know, for the kind of destruction of some liberal cities.
Well, there are a lot of, you know, there are a lot of Soros-backed and funded DAs who are pushing ideas like no bail.
They're pushing ideas like nothing.
They're incentivizing crime in a way.
Yeah.
And, you know.
But how does he make money on this?
That's the only thing that's missing from this equation.
True.
I hear this a lot.
And if it's pure benevolence, he just wants to change the justice system.
That's weird.
But there has to be some way where he can profit off of this.
Well, I'm sure there is, by the way.
I'm sure there is.
I think that there's, you know, all kinds of things.
And I don't know the Soros portfolio, right?
But like there's a lot of tech companies right now that are focusing on like surveillance and things like that because as things get less safe.
There's more crime than you would need.
There's more surveillance, yeah.
So that to me makes sense.
You know, these guys are all behind the vaccine passports.
They were all behind.
They are all behind a world in which everybody is on the grid in a major way.
So if you're invested in the grid, you want to do everything you can to make sure more people have to sign up for the grid.
I think you want to deliver people into a world and you have to deliver them through a little chaos.
You can't force them there, but you can create a system.
You can make them want the.
Hey, give us safety.
Yes.
Hey, my car got broken into five times.
Can you put up some cameras somewhere around here?
So now you're begging for your own imprisonment.
If your goal is big government and your goal is a, you know, omnipresent government force, then I think a little street chaos is probably good ultimately for you.
But do you believe that's his goal?
Because that's a far cry from, I just think the prison system should be reformed.
I just think he's wrong.
Here's the thing with George Soros.
I just think he's wrong.
I don't know how Machiavellian he is.
I think he's wrong.
I think the way his goals are good, the way he's getting there is wrong.
I think he's wrong.
I think people can be wrong.
I don't think we have to ascribe negative motives to everybody.
He could do it.
I think he's wrong.
I just think he's wrong.
I think that the policies he's pursuing make the people he purports to care about less safe.
And those are poor people, people in the inner city, things like that, that are on public transit, are maybe going to be the victims of a crime.
I think he's wrong.
I don't know him well enough to know what his overarching motives are.
And it's hard, we can say that, and I don't know.
He might, I do know that he's incredibly concerned with what he feel, you know, he pushes the ideology of kind of the DIE, the diversity, equity, inclusion ideology, where he believes that the American society is fundamentally unfair and that it needs to be reformed.
And I would have some disagreements with him there for sure.
I think he's wrong.
I think there's a lot of people that are wrong, not necessarily these evil characters.
The Koch brothers, I think, are wrong.
They believe in unfettered free trade.
They believe in open borders because they don't want to pay anyone a wage.
So if they open all the borders and everyone comes in, they go, do it for a dollar.
This is why the Koch brothers, they're not, they don't love El Salvadorian people.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're not like, we need more cultural diversity.
They want to pay people the least amount that they can.
I think they're wrong.
Do I think that they're these Machiavellian evil types?
Well, sure.
Anyone in a suit that's a billionaire who lives on Park Avenue can fit into that and might be.
But all we can say about a lot of these people is that they're wrong.
Bill Gates is, I think, wrong when you're mandating people's personal health choices.
I think you're wrong.
I don't know why he's buying up farmland.
I don't know.
That's crazy.
What is up with all these real estate purchases you see from the billionaires?
People want to own, I think people want to own resources directly.
And I think they feel like you see this a lot in Europe right now, the Netherlands, where corporate, you know, small farmers are protesting all the time because they're putting all these new standards in place that make it harder to be a small farmer, greenhouse gas emission standards, things like that.
And it's just, you know, these big corporate agricultural companies are the ones that are thriving at the expense of these farmers.
So in the real estate industry, when you have BlackRock buying up single-family homes.
Yeah, explain that.
I saw that.
BlackRock is this massive hedge fund.
Yeah.
Right.
During the pandemic, there was a lot of rent relief, and some mortgage relief and stuff like that.
Right.
And what ended up happening was it ended up being a transfer of wealth.
All these bailouts went to these big corporations, right?
And it truly benefited not mom and pop landlords because they still were on the hook for their taxes and utilities and things like that.
And, you know, it really benefited corporate landlords who went in and then bought up a lot of single-family homes that people, and then they jacked the price of real estate up by going in and just outbidding everybody, buying these homes in cash.
And now people cannot, people have been priced out of home ownership.
And now they're renting the homes that are owned by BlackRock.
Up until recently, they kind of got out of the real estate game because they were taking a little heat.
They were getting a lot of bad press.
And, you know, things, you know, they're like, now we're buying at the height of the market, rates suck, whatever.
They backed out.
But up until recently, they were, I think, the biggest corporate buyer of U.S. residential real estate.
And they've priced a generation of people out of owning a home.
And they just did that because I think eventually all of these big corporations want you to rent.
They want you to take Ubers and Lyfts.
They want you to have food delivered.
They don't want you to own a business or even think about owning a business.
They want you to work at a corporation that they own.
That's, I mean, is that terrifying?
It's terrifying.
It's like, I think that's even the model with the iPhone now, right?
Don't you kind of like pay a monthly fee and you can keep on getting new phones.
It was explained to me almost like leasing your phone.
The really smart guy came on my show.
He goes, every, this guy, Russ Baker, he writes books and crap.
But he said every government, whether it's a company or a government, every entity that's ever existed seeks power through control.
It's power through control.
If you can control people, you have the power over them.
So I think that it's like every government on earth, every Fortune 500 company, I think they want people to be just.
If you don't own your home, someone else has control.
Yeah, yeah.
So the less things that you own, the more verticals there are to exhibit control over you.
That's correct.
And is there a solution to this?
Is there any way?
Because it seems like this is just inevitable the way it's being described.
I mean, maybe, maybe, yeah, maybe, maybe not.
I do think it's interesting to look at, you know, whether it's crypto or whether it's, you know, the independence that comes along with a currency that's not Fed-backed, right?
Like the idea.
I was being facetious.
Do you really think that?
No, I'm dead serious.
I think that like eventually you will, I think unfortunately crypto might just end up being a thing that enriches very rich people anyway.
But God willing.
You know, independence, independence, you have to fight for it.
You have to keep fighting for it forever throughout history.
That's the whole thing.
You have to just keep fighting for your independence.
It didn't end with the Revolutionary War.
This is where I give my big speech at the end here.
Like Katie Porter, like Big Mama.
And then I go have a meatball on a stick for $19 and so on or whatever crap they now shoved down our throats, you know, just completely go against everything I said.
But you just have to keep fighting.
You just have to carve out ways that you individually can depend on less people and create communities.
I think communal living is going to be a big deal.
I think people are going to have their own cities.
I think people are going to have their own value systems where they go.
We're creating a space for ourselves that, you know, kind of like on the grid, but off the grid.
I think people are going to, you know, all of this stuff.
I think cities are going to.
Pods.
We were talking about that, but the pod learning.
Suicide pods?
Yeah.
Suicide pods.
No, they're a great idea.
Get right in.
It's over.
You think religion comes back?
Yeah, but I think the thing with religion is always that a lot of the people that are going to take advantage of it will be charlatans.
This is what has happened forever, right?
So like religion, I think there is a resurgence of religion.
I think that's faith is good.
I think people should have, I think religion can be a great force for good.
I think it can be manipulated and it often is by sociopaths to create a lot of violence and chaos.
I would still say net positive, but absolutely.
I agree.
Yeah, I think it's a net positive.
You know, so I don't know what happens.
I can't predict it, but you will have to try in the small and big ways you can to like not succumb to all of this stuff, especially if you are a lot of the values that I was raised with, which is like go to college, take out student loans, do what everyone else is doing.
I think those are not the right values.
The values actually are look at who's succeeding.
Look at what they're doing.
You know, try to figure out how you can be nimble, agile, move different places.
No one's saying you have to live in the most expensive city in the world.
Go find a city that's nothing with 200 people, make it something.
Go take over Lexington, Kentucky.
You know what I mean?
Dead serious.
Go take over something.
Go build a community of like-minded people somewhere.
Would you do that?
No.
Vibe With Lexington Kentucky00:03:09
Because I see you.
You already did.
It's kids.
In a lot of ways, you're aloner isn't the right thing because you're always around people.
Yeah, yeah.
You do march to be your own drill.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
I've learned, I used to hate that.
And I now kind of being just kind of an island a little bit.
I feel like you're like that.
You're well liked by all these different groups.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can make fun of all of them.
They still bring you in.
Yeah.
But there is a little isolation in you.
There's a little isolation for sure.
I mean, but as I get older, like I'm 39 now, I think that career stuff is great.
But I also think that like things outside of your career become much more important around this age.
So I think, yeah, I mean, I'm not against that now the way that I was.
Like if you asked me five years ago, I'd be like, did you join a cult?
You're not going to join?
No, I'd start, of course.
I'd never join anything.
Where are you?
Are you moving on to LA?
What's the deal?
I don't know where I live.
No one really knows.
I don't even know.
I know the government doesn't.
At the end of the day, I'm a resident of Dubai.
At the end of the day, I sit down with my business guy and I go, where have I been?
And he goes, here's where you've been and here's where you have to pay taxes.
And he counts the days.
And he counts the days.
They all have the days when I go in to their office.
I go, where have I been?
And he goes, here's where you've taught.
So will they say you got to park your ass in Texas?
No, because I gave up on that.
I love Texas in the sense that I love the audiences.
I love Rogan.
I love his club.
I love Shane.
I love everyone who works there.
I give up living there because I just, I didn't vibe with it.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think you just got to vibe with it.
I didn't vibe with Austin, Texas.
So when you said you love Texas, what you meant is I love the people that you love all the people that aren't from there that move there.
No, I love the people there that I love.
It's got a great culture, but it's not my culture.
Here's the thing.
I really believe that cultures are different.
I feel like it would be like for me personally, I'm such a New York guy.
And then I lived in LA being a New York guy.
And for me, it was just Texas was a bridge too far.
Yeah.
That's all.
Yeah, it's like you visit a place and you're like, yo, I love it, but I can never get it.
It's a great culture.
I love the music, some of the food, the show and stuff.
Very good.
But can't you get there?
What is the thing that you're missing?
Seafood, oceans.
Yeah.
You need a little water.
I need a little water.
I like water.
My mother, I think your mother's DNA is imprinted on you.
And my mother loved Florida.
She spent a lot of time in Florida.
She like surfed.
She was into boating, all that, was always by beaches.
Like just being around water to me is kind of important.
Are you going to be out east this summer, you think?
Yeah, yeah.
For like extended?
I think so.
I love this.
I think so.
Yeah.
And the prices are going up right now because a lot of Jewish people don't want to go abroad because of anti-Semitism.
So the values are up and the rentals are up and the prices are up.
Everybody's winning all around.
It's a beautiful thing.
It's beautiful.
Step Your Dick Game Up00:03:54
It is what it is.
Spring time.
Oh, that's hilarious.
So people have been trying to rent your spot out there.
Well, yeah, but I'm not going to do it, but I don't think.
But it's, listen, here's what I mean to say.
And I don't mean to minimize the pain and the suffering and the hurt.
But have we seen clouds, silver linings?
And the silver lining sometimes of a little shake.
Because the earth, the planet is just, you shake it a little bit.
Shake it up.
Shake it up.
And you shake it a little bit.
And I'm not shaking it.
Who's mad at me?
You out there mad at me?
Did I shake it?
It's shaking and it shakes.
And then sometimes good things happen.
I don't know.
And who are we about to take advantage of those scriptures?
I just say to myself, hey, what he did with the fire, I say, new, love it.
Love it.
Love it.
When are we going to?
And then my realtor calls and goes, people don't want to travel abroad.
And the house values are really going up and the rental prices are going up.
And I go, oh, so I'm like, so one guy with fire and a house right now.
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The book is specifically about my boomer parents and boomers in general.
And probably ruined 90s.
Yeah, it's like a fun, satirical, fun, satirical autobiography, but it's really about the type of people that I grew up with, which because of the internet, I think people's personalities are being more flattened now.
These were really unique, terrible, funny, selfish, horrible, vicious, racist, homophobic, misogynist, awesome, fun, lovable Americans.
Scamps.
They were fun people.
It can be all things.
It can be all things.
And they were just really fun and perpetual victims, always aggrieved.
Easiest run of all the generations, probably, outside of NOM.
It was pretty smooth sailing.
But again, they're always upset.
They're always pissed off.
They're always complaining.
No, so true.
Easiest rush of any generation.
They fucking cry about it.
And they cry about it nonstop.
It's horrible the things they had to work.
They bought a home for 40 grand.
Yeah, traffic.
They're trash.
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Lines at the grocery store.
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They're like, oh, it took me two hours to get to my $20,000 home.
And they had to do it.
They are completely.
Parents served in the war.
They were born after.
They were born after.
They're disconnected.
They keep telling their kids to do the things they did.
They're not aware.
It's impossible.
You know, like, you know, my dad said once, I was like, all these jobs are going to be automated.
He's like, you kids will have it all.
He goes, you're not going to, you're not going to have to do anything for yourself.
I go, yeah, but those are jobs.
He's like, wow, come on.
You know, they don't care.
And they're very funny.
They're actually really, really funny.
You know, my dad said, we were at Christmas, and my step sister said something annoying about climate change.
And it made me.
You know, it's something annoying.
Why lives in DC or whatever?
You know, whatever.
I was eating a risotto ball and she was talking.
And then my father goes like this.
My father goes, he goes, you know, when you really start to pay attention to the weather?
Yeah.
When you get a boat.
And he goes, because we are on our boat and we are really paying.
And that's their generation of people.
That's how if they are not directly affected, I mean directly affected.
They don't give a fuck about it.
They don't give anything.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, it is the selfishness that they're coming from.
They invited their realtor to Christmas.
My father looked at me and he goes, she's been fighting brain cancer for 20 years.
He goes, she's really something.
And then so they are ghoulish.
They're ghoulish.
Sorry, what's the title?
I need to know the title.
Death by boomers.
Okay.
And it'll be about just how they.
Where do you get like they used to call us fat fox?
Like my friend's mother, Barbara.
Yeah.
Hey, this is the funniest thing in the world.
She would smoke a marbara red.
She would roll down the way.
This was her son.
She would roll down the window.
I mean, imagine.
By the way, imagine it.
Is there a better woman than this?
How old are you?
14.
She would roll down the window of her Saturn, just smoking a cigarette, and she'd go, Where are you, fat fucks?
I mean, I know the mother.
His mother.
Big mama.
So they're like the, you know, we talk about the generational wealth and the shit kids are in.
Yeah.
Are they that for America?
They had this.
But they're not even wealthy.
They're not wealthy.
No, but they're American people.
They're like a nice air.
But America.
They're actually better off than the wealthy people because at some level of rich, you have to think about other things.
They had just enough money.
All it did was corrupt them and destroy their children.
And that's all it needed to do.
They never thought about civic virtue or angling for position.
They just wanted a Lexis and a shitty timeshare at a golf resort.
That's so true.
That's all they cared about.
What I'm asking is: America was a power.
And then this generation comes and then just kind of squanders the power.
Like the Vanderbilt.
Oh, it's not even.
It's not even that.
These people are.
They live on Long Island.
Yeah, they live on Long Island.
They live in the suburbs of any city.
They're 30 to 40 minutes out of any city.
They are constantly talking about the girl at the dry cleaner who screwed their life up because she doesn't speak English and didn't understand what they wanted.
They are to be found.
Is she Meredith's Christmas lights?
Yes.
They're what we call pool and patio types.
They're on a patio, but a shitty pool.
They're talking about how many sacrifices they made for their children.
And when in reality, they've made none.
I had one woman tell me once, this woman, Lisa, I love, she looked at me, she goes, I married my husband for very practical reasons.
She was drinking a martini, we were smoking steaks and drinking martini.
She goes, I married my husband for very practical reasons.
She goes, we were never in love.
I was 16 in high school.
This was like a heavy thing to drop.
I was like best friends with her son.
It was like a heavy fucking thing to drop.
I was like, oh, I go, but you have fun.
And she looked at me and she goes, we have fun.
It was like amazing.
I remember that moment.
It's like, so interesting.
She was very into like Eastern philosophy.
Okay.
And she was a housewife.
And a lot of them were, right?
She was into like Buddhism.
And she goes, you just go around this planet many times until you get it.
And then she'd look at her son and go, she'd go, and you're never going to get it.
She goes, she goes, she said once, she goes, I swear to God, she goes, why the hatred to their kids?
I don't know how to do it.
Because they view their kids as an impediment to their wellness, success, fulfillment.
They did not, they're the first generation that did not want their children to have it better than they did.
They actually wanted their children to be like, they like put the children together.
Did the children get in the way?
Were they the first generation?
Yes, they got in the way.
So are they the first generation that are like, it's my life and I should be able to do whatever I want with it?
Yeah, I think the children got in the way and I think the children also were there to support them emotionally, not the other way around.
The children were there to let them know how.
So you have the greatest generation and then you have the ghoulish generation.
My friend's mother, I swear to God, just made up a fake attack in a grocery store.
I'm sorry, in a grocery store parking lot.
So she didn't have to go to his wedding.
She made up the fact that she was pushed down in the parking lot of grocery stores.
This is a complete lie.
Her son's wedding?
Her son's wedding.
Unbelievable.
And she said, the attack has prevented me from going to your wedding.
This was a complete fabrication she invented that she was attacked in a grocery store parking lot.
Okay, hey, real quick.
Unbelievable.
Okay, so every generation that had a major war is sold the story of, hey, we are sacrificing for your wives and your children, right?
This generation, the boomers don't have a major war.
So is there no indoctrination of sacrifice?
So then when they do have kids, they're like, why are you in the way of me enjoying whatever I want to enjoy in this moment?
They absolutely are that.
It's a great way to put it.
They're also the first generation of people where they really try out mass marketing on these people.
They are marketed to death.
They are advertised.
They have entertained themselves to death, which is a great book by Neil Postman, Entertinging Ourselves to Death.
They're the first generation that is, you know, my father used to cry at the Budweiser Clydesdale commercial.
He loved the frogs.
He loved the frogs.
No, he loved it.
This is the first generation of people to watch World War II documentaries, to feel proud of accomplishments they never had and sacrifices they never made.
And they would watch World War II documentaries and they'd feel very proud of themselves while eating a cake.
That's the boomers.
They love a cruise.
That's the boomers.
But so what happened?
What is the generation before them?
What I'm trying to understand is like, where do you get this perspective?
Because that's all you know.
That's who you were raised by.
That's what you think too.
So their parents were like the greatest generation.
But how do you know that boomers are weird?
Because that should be the only thing you know.
That's your reality.
I know a lot of people of a lot of different ages.
So you knew older people and you saw how different they were from your parents.
10,000%.
Okay, so the great Go Gimme Craig generation were.
Greatest generation.
How did they raise these people?
I think they were, they were maybe if they, you know, they were a little cold, a little withhold of them.
Came back from war.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, but I think they gave their kids a lot.
I think they gave them a lot of context to what life is.
There was a lot of religion.
My grandparents were incredibly religious.
It was also, you know, kind of this idea that their dream was for their children to have a better life than they did.
The children's, I'll do it.
The boomers' dream was to have the greatest lives they could.
Yeah.
It was not about it didn't continue.
They actually felt that their children inhibited their dream.
Inhibited their dream to some degree.
And they also felt like if their children couldn't figure it out, they couldn't figure it out.
Even the TV shows that come up from it are resentful of the children.
There's a comedy that's resentful of children, which is something I love.
I'm finding out it's kind of changing.
Maybe it's just because I'm older, but anybody around my age who just had kids, they message me and they go, this is the greatest thing.
You are so lucky to enjoy these years.
Yes.
They love their kids.
No, it's amazing.
And it is so different than the comedy you saw.
It's not funny.
It's not at all.
And it's good.
And it's my funny friend.
Even funny friends will just go, hey, this is awesome.
This is amazing.
Of course, the funnier take, hating your kids, you know, whatever Louis was doing.
But that comes from a generation of people that were very comfortable going, these kids are annoying.
They're getting in our way.
A thousand percent.
I also think they were the first generation of people to get effed up with their kids.
They drank with their kids.
Some of them smoked pot with their kids.
Oh, yeah, there was no disconnect.
There was no disconnect.
Cool, mom, cool, dad.
Cool, mom.
They were like drunk.
They were falling down in front of their children.
They would throw the house party at their house when they were.
We were doing drugs with our parents' friends.
They were like screaming and yelling and just complete lunatic.
They were complete maniacal.
And why?
Why was there this?
Why was there no disconnect?
I just think it was, you know, it was the relative ease at which things came to them.
They had to create their own struggles.
It really exposes the lie of the Woodstock generation.
The Woodstock generation has been, I know you'll love this.
We'll do Vatican II in a minute.
But the reality is the Woodstock generation, we see them as this progressive, free-loving gen, they were just selfish drug addicts.
They were just selfish drug addicts.
The drug became the drug just became money, consumerism, booze, and pills.
They were just selfish drug addicts.
They didn't care about any of this stuff.
They just wanted to have sex in the mud and do heroin.
And that's okay.
But the boomers proved that because the boomers were those people.
The drug just became the drug just became money and status and all of that stuff.
The belief system that was supposedly underlying all that actually never existed, ever.
I've always wondered, because I was thinking about this like last week, like these guys that are so conservative now were the Woodstock guys.
How did that happen?
What changed?
Well, they were never liberal and they're barely conservative now.
They actually chase their own self-interest like a dog chases a steak.
For example, they don't, they're all anti-global warming, but all of them want to live on the water.
They all want to live on the water.
They all want to have a boat.
They all, for the most part, think global warming is full of shit.
Yeah.
Because, you know what I mean?
But they all want in the nature to be exactly what it is for them.
Yeah.
Everything is for them.
They are against the migrant crisis, but they adore housekeepers, nannies, and a lot of the things that come with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They think Biden's too old, but they're 75 and they're not retiring.
And they won't sell their house and they're retiring to a larger house.
But they also will scream and yell about Joe Biden being too old.
But are they going to pass the business down to their son?
Nope.
Are they going to put the house on the market?
Or are they going to, no?
Are we different?
And if so, how did we get?
The millennials suck for a whole host of other reasons.
They're a ribbon.
Are we millennials?
Kind of.
I think we are.
Millennials suck for a different generation because they were raised by these kind of boomer parents that were kind of looney tunes.
The millennials got instilled in their heads that they wanted to be constantly recognized for something because their parents were so hostile towards them.
The millennials went to universities in corporate America and said, please pin a ribbon on me.
Tell me I'm good.
Look, I voted.
Look, I believe in this and that and this cause.
And I'm going to pats on the back constantly.
I'm good.
Love me.
Society.
My parents hate me.
Will you love me?
And they became annoying.
They became helicopter parents.
They're the ones that are over-parenting their children to compensate.
They're the annoying people that are like, what's the new thing?
The penalty.
Ukraine, this flag, sub that flag.
Now it's that flag.
Now I'm into this.
And all of it is because they just want to be, they, you know, adulation.
I had cousins and people like that.
All they wanted was to get into a good school to hold it over people's heads.
You know what I mean?
They didn't care about knowledge.
They don't care about some of the dumbest people I know were the most well-traveled because they learn nothing by traveling.
It's just an Instagram photo.
They don't care.
It's what I respect about you.
You learn stuff and I'll talk to you.
Like, you'll be like, you're inquisitive when you go to the Middle East and places like that.
When my cousin goes to the Middle East, not just her, but people like that, when they go anywhere, it is solely to show other people that they have zero care about anything.
That's the millennials.
They just, it's groupthink.
It's give me love.
Tell me I'm good.
Tell me I'm better.
I've done the work.
I put the time in.
Look at me.
I got the job.
I got the office.
I'm the girl boss.
I'm the whatever.
And the Zoomers are kind of a little more fun because they're a little bit more nihilistic.
They've seen all the institutions crumble.
They've seen all the things.
Zoomers are after Gen Z.
Oh, no, they're not Gen Z.
They are Gen Z.
This is after millennials.
Yeah.
And the Zoomers are more self-starters.
They're more independent.
They've seen operations like this.
They've seen people make great careers going the independent route.
Millennials really, for the most part, didn't see that.
Millennials looked more towards the institutions.
They wanted those institutions to convey the respect on them that their parents didn't.
The Zoomers are like, okay, we're out here in the wilderness where let's make it happen.
We're self-starters.
We don't need anyone.
We don't need a corporation.
And their parents love them, so they don't need that validation.
And their parents love them too much.
They've kind of like, maybe it's badass of them, or maybe it's dangerous, but they've kind of rejected the woke ideology a little bit.
Yes, they have.
Because, you know, again, it's a very millennial.
The woke ideology is a very millennial identity.
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I have to reject the generation.
Yeah, that ideology is about advancement.
It's about the revenge of the mediocre.
It's not about helping actual genuine people that have been disenfranchised.
It's more about pinning a metal or a ribbon on yourself and saying, I believe the right thing.
Give me a job.
I want to.
I want to be.
It's all these people that went to school and they majored in things like gender studies and then all the boomer right wingers like you'll never get a job.
It's like, no, they created the jobs.
They created the jobs.
They created the institutions.
They said, you need a diversity thing.
You need a sensitivity reader.
You need this.
You need a cultural sensitivity czar.
And they became all these jobs.
And that's what the Zoomers see how fake it all is.
They see through it.
And the millennials do such a bad job of disguising that it's really just like whether you want to call it a jobs program or the revenge of the mediocre.
That's what a lot of that ideology is.
It's refreshing, though, that the Zoomers see it so clearly.
Yeah.
Like you speak to some of these kids and they're painfully aware of how ridiculous it is.
They kind of laugh at it.
But it's not like they're not progressive about certain things.
There's certain things that make sense.
They kind of go, yeah, obviously.
Like, you know, it's not like their rejection is fucking throw gays off the buildings, right?
They don't object to that.
The bad ones.
Yeah.
But there are a little bit.
I don't know how do I explain it.
Yeah, they're.
Gay marriage is obvious.
It's like, yeah.
Exactly.
You're like, yeah, let them get married, whatever.
But we can also call each other gay, and that's not hateful.
Yeah.
They've kind of like evened out in a nice area.
I think that generation would be the one that is going to have the biggest role to play in all of the things we talked about and where America lands.
Yeah, you have the most hope for that.
Well, and whether it's hope, it's certainly interesting to watch.
It's too, everything you're saying is correct.
I think it's too soon yet because I think we could have looked at like these boomers and went, wow, they're really rejecting like this commercialism and all of this stuff.
And then literally they turned on a dime.
So I don't know which, it's very interesting to watch, you know, but I think the indications are good from that generation, except there's a little nihilism there.
And the nihilism is a problem.
And the nihilism can, they can blackpill themselves into.
Explain yeah, explain nihilism a little bit.
The idea that because everything is so terrible and all the information is at their fingertips, they can't believe any of the information.
They can't kind of not believe any of it.
And they've disconnected emotionally from it.
That's why they'll just watch videos and people getting their head fucks off.
Also, like a lot of the drugs are discouraged.
The drugs, right?
I mean, Euphoria is such an amazing show because it does paint a pretty accurate perception of what's going on in California high school.
You have people ODing, people struggling with gender identity, violence.
You have people's parents, you know, like, you know, struggling with drugs issues.
So it's such a great show.
That being said, like, Sam Levinson did a great job of painting an accurate picture.
But you watch our show, you go, wow, what an amazing show.
Then you go, I don't want my kid going there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, I don't want my kid going to Euphoria High.
Yeah, yeah.
But the nihilism is interesting.
I have noticed that with some of them.
They're a little black-eyed.
They are.
Black-eyed nihilists.
And I thought it was.
My godson, three years old, black-eyed nihilist.
Doesn't care.
Unaffected.
Unaffected.
They've seen everything.
They're just there.
I thought they've seen everything.
You know what's funny?
I thought this was a, I saw a lot of girls that grow up in New York City are like this.
Oh, yeah.
Even our generation.
They're going to clubs at 14.
Exactly.
They've seen it all.
They've been had fucking disgusting old men with their parents' friends trying to fuck them.
They've seen the world for the worst versions of it.
If you're protected in a nice, lovely little suburb and everybody's polite to one another and you're not being manipulated by old dudes every single day and some guy's trying to finger you at work, et cetera.
You can have these doughy eyes about the world.
These girls at 14 going to the fucking.
They know what it's like.
And they have that little bit of nihilism.
That's what I see in the Zoomers.
I think that little bit of darkness.
And it's good, but they can't OD on it because then it could get a little.
You're unaffected.
You're just unaffected by anything.
And you need to be affected to do shit.
You need to be affected.
You need to care a little bit about something.
And it's just very hard.
It's very hard because the world has gotten crazy.
Yeah.
And it's always been crazy, but it's now delivered to you.
That craziness is delivered to you.
There's a gang of kids in Arizona, white kids, running around attacking other kids randomly.
They killed one of the kids.
It's like Gilbert, Arizona.
It's like an hour outside of Phoenix.
I talked about it on my show.
There's endless videotapes of these white kids stomping on the heads of kids.
Jesus.
Stomping on the heads of children.
These kids are raised in gated communities in the suburbs.
So there is something I think there's a nihilism that goes on where these kids become sociopaths by the, they're desensitized.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it's crazy.
Clockwork orange.
Clockwork orange.
This kid, Preston Lord, he died.
This 16-year-old kid was killed at a house party.
And, you know, now they're trying to make arrests.
It's kind of difficult, you know, but like they're running around Arizona.
These are rich white kids who's, I mean, rich by the standards of Arizona, not Manhattan.
Their parents own a fucking gym or something.
But they're also like, you know what I mean?
Also, kind of raised in a social media era that's not really about this.
It's going to sound super fucking pretentious, whatever, but there's not a lot of art in it.
It's more just like clout and clicks.
That's correct.
It's just how do I get attention?
Whereas there, I feel like maybe we had a benefit, at least growing up in New York, where like, even if you weren't the most successful person, if you were the best artist, you had a lot of respect.
Like, people like that right there is a great skateboarder.
A thousand percent.
And you really respected that person because of their craft.
Yeah.
And I feel like now it's just like, what kind of train wreck will get the most views and clicks?
Okay, let's put that out there.
And then you have kids trying to recreate the train wreck instead of getting really good at a thing.
And when you know that it doesn't matter about being good, it just matters how crazy the train wreck is.
Of course, you're going to be nihilistic about it.
Why would you care?
You don't care at all.
That's right.
What's the split, though?
Because you started saying Gen Z is like the most hopeful generation.
And now you're saying.
Well, there's listen, there's hope in them in that they look at our absurdities.
And we do have a lot of absurdities.
Yes.
The worst version of them is black-eyed nihilists that don't care about anything at all.
That's the fringes.
I think.
I think the best part of Gen Z is that they're appropriately skeptical of the institutions.
Yeah.
That and they and they're not raised being it's like they don't need to learn like us.
They need like we learn they look at big mama they know big mama comes on with the cookie yeah and she takes out the whiteboard the boomers love it they get excited.
Yeah, that's our avatar.
That's big mama.
Yeah.
Katie's gonna come on and slap Jamie Diamond around.
This is our Tuesday ritual.
Yeah.
The Zoomers look at that and they know what it is.
They know it's fake.
Yeah.
They don't care.
They laugh at it.
They laugh at it.
It's funny.
It's entertainment.
It's the way I look at it.
And I think that's the best version of them.
The worst version of them is running around and killing people in Arizona.
To give them credit, there's stories of us killing, like, who was it, Matthew Shepard, I think, when it was like the late 90s.
This dude is gay, a bunch of homophobic guys.
Yeah, that was a meth thing that they've repurposed to be a homophobic thing.
It was meth related.
I'm very big into facts, but I'm sure they were homophobic as well.
It just so happened.
It was one of the, there's more layers to it.
That being said, I'm sure nobody was winning a progressive award.
We had our fringes that did crazy.
We had our friend.
We had the trench coat mafia.
Yeah.
We had school shooters.
We still do.
There's always going to be, I think, that anti-social thing.
Yeah.
But are these kids getting, you know, the machines are all so big.
Maybe it's not the kids in the future.
Maybe it's the machines.
I feel like the Zoomers would see a school shooter and like eye roll.
They'd be like, oh, yeah, totally.
It's still happening.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing about the school shootings now is that they're not as effective as they were in the sense that society doesn't care.
There we go.
They don't care.
Society doesn't care anymore.
No one cares.
Yeah, it sucks.
And it might actually stop them.
Trench Coat Mafia School Shooters00:06:26
That's what I'm saying.
Like, you're pouring gas and lighten yourself on fire.
There you go.
Make some change.
At least that's you.
I have no problem with that.
That's just you making the change.
That's the Zoomers.
If they're so desensitized, then do it yourself.
That's a great moment that he's having.
And I look at it because he and he's still, because he begins the free palace on he says it and he says it.
And then the third one, he's really going.
So he's like, he's curdling.
But it's a great moment in terms of brand awareness.
Yeah.
This is brand awareness.
It is.
It's brand awareness.
He's in the fatigues.
He's in the camo.
He's in front of the embassy.
Fresh press.
It's well framed.
The video's good.
It's not too high def.
You don't want too high def.
You don't want to shoot this and feel crack.
This is a 1080.
It feels good.
And you're a 1080.
It's a 1080.
You want it a little blurry, a little grainy.
It's more historic.
It's more historic.
And I'm just like, I love this for him right now.
There any narration?
Yeah, he just yells free pals at a few times in the class.
We need like a black kid holding it like, damn.
Yeah, well, it's gotta be on WorldStar.
People are gonna comment on it, but I just love this for him right now.
It's, I love the visceral.
I love the look.
Yeah.
And I just love it, I think it's, you know, because marketing companies are looking at this.
If you don't think they're gonna somehow learn a lesson from this to sell Chibani flips, you're out of your mind.
Chibani flips?
You're completely out of your mind.
If the Chibani marketing team is not watching this video, they're amazing because you put it on fucking baby.
But if you don't think they're watching this over and over again to try to figure out how do we get into Dylan, what if we pour nuts on ourselves outside of the Dannons?
Yeah.
There you go.
Say Free Palace.
Ken Jay Jenner on.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's interesting, you know?
Tim, Andrew.
I love you.
You are the man.
Thank you for having me.
I want everybody to go check out Tim Stand-Up.
He's on tour.
You're constantly on tour.
I don't know how you, I don't know how you treat it.
My agent is very overweight.
And this is why it works.
Justin, we love you, Justin.
We love you because he, because when you're on tour a lot, you're killing yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's also killing himself at home.
Yeah.
So what I can't yell at him.
Like, I can't.
It's not like I have a fit agent playing tennis.
Yeah.
And I'm just dying.
Yeah.
We're both dying.
That's why it works.
But I'm getting off Royal Albert Hulk.
And then we're...
And European tour, Helsinki, and the other crap.
Who cares?
I'm a Royal Albert.
Who cares?
Dublin sold out or Belfast.
One of those hell holes.
The point is, I'm kidding.
I'm from there.
I love you.
Potato Heads.
Now, the point is: Royal Albert Hall.
We're talking Markle.
We're talking good people over there.
We're defending the monarchy.
I'm there to defend the monarchy from the interlocutors, from the people that are coming.
And the Tim Dillon show.
And we love everyone.
And thank you.
And you're the best.
Yo, check out Tim Dylan.
Thank you so much.
We need Tim to host SNL, dude.
Yo, Tim, what do you think?
Oh, yeah.
We didn't even talk about SNL.
Shout out to Jane.
He did a great job.
Amazing job.
They asked me to, just to show you where my career is at, they asked me to host an RFK benefit instead.
So that's similar.
It was on a Saturday.
I said no.
But that's what I'm doing right now.
It's like just me and RFK dodging bullets.
How do you feel about RFK?
Fun, like him.
Not going to win, but that's okay.
Would you vote for him?
Are you voting for him?
Maybe.
I think I would.
I think I would.
I do like him.
Yeah.
I do like him a lot.
I think I would vote for him.
He's hard to run for president.
Yeah.
That's what I'll say.
He's charming, though.
He's charming.
His wife is amazing.
Cheryl Hines.
Yeah.
Herb is the greatest comedy.
And brave knowing that every time his family did this, they got killed.
I mean, they would go shoot his dog in the head in front of him and then look at him and go, isn't it sad that dog drowned?
It's uncomfortable.
They go, God, that's sad the way he's around.
And he'd be bleeding with a bull in his head and staring at him as a kid.
No, it is.
He went through a lot.
It's audacious what they've done to his family.
Yeah, it's crazy.
I like even just looking into it.
They've also killed the Kennedys, though, but that doesn't make it right.
Wait, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.
Well, you know, Ted drove that woman off a bridge, drowned her.
They were bootleggers.
They were in with the monster.
I heard the boots.
They were raped.
They raped people.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Well, now I really want them on.
Yeah.
No, they're kind of.
I need RFK to come on.
When we're talking with whacked Marilyn Monroe and stuff, they're not clean.
Nobody's answered.
They whacked Marilyn Monroe.
Yeah, yeah.
For saying that she fucked things.
But I mean, I think the bootlegger thing was a CIA smear.
No, they're not clean.
They're not saying they're clean.
I just heard the bootlegger thing was.
Because he was making clean movies in Middle America.
That was the business.
Was it the business?
I just think it's kind of well known that he well, they certainly became friends with a lot of mobsters if they weren't bootleggers.
What a fun coincidence.
What do you think?
Well, I just think, listen, that level of at that level of society, you're commingling with a lot of unsavory types.
I'm not saying that the Kennedys deserved anything that happened to them.
I'm just saying they're not an innocent family.
Really?
So they're not just this innocent, benevolent family that's just trying to save the Hudson?
No, no, they never were.
They were a ruthless, bloodthirsty, you know, dynasty, patrician, blue-blood cult that, of course, has some weird curses.
And they threatened a lot of power factions that eventually hit back.
And that was not good.
So they wouldn't play ball.
They could have just rose to power, been another great American name last year.
Yeah.
JFK was a patriot.
He loved his country.
He was certainly a guy who was a revolutionary guy in the sense that he believed that the American government should function a different way.
And that ended up getting him killed.
Seems like everybody who believes that kind of ends up dying.
Yes.
But also those people, you know, aren't always, they're not always, their motives, you know, are not always, they make a lot of, they make a lot of messes along the way to getting to where they get to.
Yes.
SNL Monologue Masterful Set00:02:48
Okay.
Back to Shane real quick.
Amazing story.
Yes.
The seed that it's done.
Yes.
Guind of galvanized the comedy community to support SNL.
Yeah.
When I feel like we were kind of fractured with SNL.
Yeah, I think it's a great story.
I think people are supporting Shane.
He did an amazing job and it's such a great story.
I think it's also so weird, like the thing that you see.
One thing that shocked me, because I was, you know, he was in the city working out the monologue.
And I've seen him do the monologue and just fucking crush every sign I saw him go up.
And the Down syndrome part, I thought was the most endearing, hilarious part.
Like really, I literally was watching him do it at the cellar and I was going, when he goes up and he does his son SNL, everybody in that building that ever doubted him or fired him is going to feel like the biggest fucking piece of shit.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And just the fact, and I thought we were beyond this point of comedy, just the fact that he said Down syndrome.
Yeah.
You could feel the audience fucking clicking.
And I think that's what was good about it.
I actually think that, to me, I watched it.
I thought it killed.
And I also thought he did great.
Because here's the deal.
I think that should happen to an extent.
People should go, what's going on?
And then he's so funny, he overcomes any of that.
I think it's good.
I think tension's good.
I don't see the building of tension, the releasing of it.
That's what comedy is.
So I think it was.
I think it's a little different.
It's New York City.
And here's the deal.
You're performing in New York City, in the middle of New York City, and people might be a little like...
You perform in New York City every single night.
Yeah, but it's probably a crowd of people that might be a little bit more sensitive.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't realize that there was still, I thought that we were beyond the point where you can't talk about this, but there are still topics, I guess, maybe in certain.
But I think that's good for us.
I don't think we need to be in a place where, because I think our superpower, if there is a superpower, is making something funny that shouldn't be.
Yeah, I like that.
But now, so it's so that to me, that's the most fun time when you can't say anything.
Yeah, the most fun time to do comedy.
I do feel like we're entering a time where you can say anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that was a reminder to me, like, oh, maybe there's certain spaces for sure.
I really thought that that part of it that they initially tightened up obviously ended up winning them over.
But even in the, but I couldn't believe it.
It was been, I was very invested in not liking this guy.
And now I have to reassess everything because this is a guy who comes from, I had him painted as this bigot who's from this certain type of family.
Because it was the end of the set.
The beginning of the set, he's crushing.
Oh, I thought the moment where he flipped everything, it wasn't rocky by any stretch, but I could feel like things ascend when he was like started being like, I can look at everybody not laughing at me right now.
He kind of stepped outside of the set and then he closed.
I thought he'd just crush.
I think it's just comedy.
I think it's comedy.
It's just sets, our sets, our sets.
I mean, that's really what it is.
It was a masterful set, I think, especially for a monologue on that show.
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Yeah.
I also think the SNL audience, like, they know that it's being recorded.
They know what's live.
Yeah, there's like a pressure on them.
I want to hear a little SNL in Russia and where I'm standing there and then there's red lights on my chest.
And I just, and I'm like, and I say hello, and Putin's there, and everyone nods.
And I go, it's great to be here.
And then, like, after every joke, it's just a bunch of like oligarchs and czars, and they're all smoking cigars and they're all just kind of looking at each other.
And there's no left.
Everyone just kind of looked at each other.
So that would be mine.
That would be amazing for me.
And then I just get through it and they just kind of, yeah.
Would you have Putin on?
Yeah.
Really?
I absolutely would.
They should have had you over there, dude.
It would have been a lot more fun.
Yeah.
What would you have done when he starts doing the history lesson?
Would you go, ba, ba, ba, ba?
I would.
I think a little of the history lesson was good, but I would have got into it, been like, what did you think of Prince Oleg?
Piece of shit between me and you?
What do you think about all of this stuff?
Do you think these guys, was there any gay activity?
Do you think there was gay activity?
Do you think there was any gay activity with Oleg?
Let's be honest.
I hear Oleg.
We were talking to this historian, apparently Hitler.
Big gay.
Is that true?
Or just very, maybe not gay, but very welcoming of the gays.
Was that true?
That's what we heard.
And apparently had to change his policy a little bit later because some other people were not as welcoming.
Well, what was he saying?
Yeah, that there was a lot of gay SS members that he was like, that were very openly gay that he was kind of accommodating of and didn't really have any.
I think at the end of the day, he's like, I think Hitler's thing was we have one job.
Which is.
And if everyone's doing that job, we're not going to run around and get real personal with everybody and nitpick.
We have one gig.
Yeah.
We've got a tunnel vision.
Yeah.
But then sometimes people are like, oh, but they came for the Catholics too.
I know that's.
Yeah, they did come for us.
They mostly wanted to come for us.
Yeah, they really tried to.
They mostly came for us.
Terrific.
That's right away.
It was a really a Catholic issue.
It was a genocide.
That's what I've learned about the Holocaust.
That's the boomers.
That's what the boomer is.
The boomers.
See the Holocaust make it happen to us as well.
If the boomers can be explained in one sentence, the woman sitting down drinking a coffee going, the Irish were slaves too.